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for Guaranteed Income Research at the University of Pennsylvania.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Stockton program is one of the few modern U.S. experiments in regular cash payments with complete, published results.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Castro and co-author Stacia West wrote that guaranteed income “under normative economic and health conditions, does calm income volatility and allay financial, emotional, and psychological distress.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But during the pandemic, those results were inconclusive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We were able to say definitively that there are certain changes in terms of mental health and physical health and well-being that are directly attributed to the cash,” Castro told CalMatters on Tuesday. “Year 2 (2020) showed us some of those limits, where $500 a month is not a panacea for all social ills.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Stockton pilot program kicked off a flurry of advocacy for unconditional cash programs across the country. The pandemic — along with infusions of federal aid to local governments — pushed officials and private organizations to start their own experiments giving people direct cash to alleviate poverty and financial instability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nowhere did the pilot programs take off more than in California. Earlier this year, CalMatters counted more than 40 programs that have launched or are preparing to launch this year, giving cash to more than 12,000 residents total.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Program complications\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Many of the programs target immigrants or families raising children. Seven programs the state is funding will focus on lower-income, expectant mothers or foster youth aging out of state care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a state where the cost of living drives a top-of-the-nation poverty rate, and a large share of workers who are disqualified from traditional social services due to their immigration statuses, California officials have already taken interest in direct cash programs. They’ve expanded tax credits for lower-income families and loosened stringent federal work requirements for cash welfare recipients.[aside label=\"More Stories\" tag=\"guaranteed-income\"]Unconditional cash proposals have detractors. Critics say the programs could discourage work and are too expensive. And some skeptical labor leaders say employers should be paying higher wages if their workers can’t afford basic needs. Some proponents disagree about whether guaranteed income should replace current safety-net programs or be an addition to them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Complicating the Stockton study was its relatively small sample size.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Researchers were initially tracking more than 100 recipients, but many of those receiving the cash and those in the control group couldn’t be reached for surveys and interviews during the pandemic. As a result, the researchers saw “trends of a positive trajectory” on many measures for recipients — such as an increased ability to pay for a $400 emergency — but results were not strong enough to be statistically significant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By contrast, a recently concluded pilot program in Los Angeles included more than 3,200 recipients. The Center for Guaranteed Income Research is also studying that experiment, but there are no published results yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An initial report on the first year of the Stockton experiment showed that the group receiving payments had increased its rate of full-time employment, as some recipients used the money to complete internships or consolidate part-time shifts and gig work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The final study did not find effects on recipients’ employment to be statistically significant.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Pandemic spending\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Michael Tubbs, Stockton’s former mayor, has founded an organization that launched several other guaranteed income programs; he also advises Gov. Gavin Newsom on poverty. He said the Stockton study shows the program did not drive down employment among recipients, even during the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People did not stop working,” he said. “And people spent money on things we all spend money on. People know how to spend money.”[pullquote size='medium' align='left' citation=\"Former Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs\"]‘People did not stop working. And people spent money on things we all spend money on. People know how to spend money.’[/pullquote]Data the researchers collected from Stockton recipients’ debit cards shows that recipients on average spent more than a third of the funds on food. But during the first month of the pandemic, spending on food spiked to nearly half of the tracked funds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Researchers noted that recipients also transferred about 40% of the funds off the debit cards, with some people explaining they worried about scams and feared the money would be taken away, or they chose to pay for things in cash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Castro noted many program recipients reported using the money to buy food in bulk during the stay-at-home orders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Those are activities that you can’t do when you’re experiencing poverty or when your income is going up and down each month,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946514\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11946514 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A profile picture of a young Black man with a black moustache and goatee looking off-camera into light to his right.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Tubbs, former mayor of Stockton, implemented an 18-month trial of universal basic income for 125 residents in the city. \u003ccite>(Nick Otto/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Less stress\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Gregory Gauthier, a 34-year-old recipient in Stockton, said the money helped keep his family afloat through two unexpected losses in income during the pandemic — once while he was waiting for unemployment checks when his job furloughed him for three months and again when he was recovering from surgery for several weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It would have been really hard” without guaranteed income payments, he said, which “make everything smoother and less stressful.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gauthier grew up in Stockton, in a working-class family that he said didn’t have much money and moved a lot.[aside postID=\"news_11820737,news_11863446,news_11882363\" label=\"Related Coverage\"]The pilot program randomly picked recipients from neighborhoods where the median household income was less than the city’s average — about $46,000 a year at the time. When Gauthier enrolled in the program in 2019, he was making $13 an hour at an auto-dismantling business. He had four kids at the time; two lived with him, his mother and her husband.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gauthier had been saving to buy a car, he said, and the payments helped get him there sooner. He also spent it on food, car parts and his children’s clothing, school supplies and skateboards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the payments ended two years ago, he has felt the loss, he said, but his family has gotten by on the pay bumps he has earned at his auto-dismantling job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reflecting on the guaranteed income program, Gauthier said it allowed him to have enough to save for emergencies, and it prompted him to think about how to earn more in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With inflation I want to be above that, so I don’t have to worry,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A final study of Stockton’s famous experiment giving lower-income residents unconditional cash found that the money improved some recipients’ mental health and financial stability — but only during 'normative' economic conditions.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1681343477,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":1194},"headData":{"title":"Study Shows Limits of Stockton's Guaranteed Income Program During Pandemic | KQED","description":"A final study of Stockton’s famous experiment giving lower-income residents unconditional cash found that the money improved some recipients’ mental health and financial stability — but only during 'normative' economic conditions.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Study Shows Limits of Stockton's Guaranteed Income Program During Pandemic","datePublished":"2023-04-12T22:21:34.000Z","dateModified":"2023-04-12T23:51:17.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"source":"CalMatters","sourceUrl":"https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2023/04/california-guaranteed-income/","nprByline":"\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/author/jeanne-kuang/\">Jeanne Kuang\u003c/a>","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11946467/study-shows-limits-of-stocktons-guaranteed-income-program-during-pandemic","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Stockton’s experiment in guaranteed income — which paid more than 100 residents $500 a month with no strings attached — likely improved the recipients’ financial stability and health, but those effects were much less pronounced during the pandemic, researchers found.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study of the two-year experiment that began in 2019 shows the promise and limitations of a guaranteed income, said Amy Castro, a study author and founding director of the Center for Guaranteed Income Research at the University of Pennsylvania.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Stockton program is one of the few modern U.S. experiments in regular cash payments with complete, published results.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Castro and co-author Stacia West wrote that guaranteed income “under normative economic and health conditions, does calm income volatility and allay financial, emotional, and psychological distress.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But during the pandemic, those results were inconclusive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We were able to say definitively that there are certain changes in terms of mental health and physical health and well-being that are directly attributed to the cash,” Castro told CalMatters on Tuesday. “Year 2 (2020) showed us some of those limits, where $500 a month is not a panacea for all social ills.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Stockton pilot program kicked off a flurry of advocacy for unconditional cash programs across the country. 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And some skeptical labor leaders say employers should be paying higher wages if their workers can’t afford basic needs. Some proponents disagree about whether guaranteed income should replace current safety-net programs or be an addition to them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Complicating the Stockton study was its relatively small sample size.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Researchers were initially tracking more than 100 recipients, but many of those receiving the cash and those in the control group couldn’t be reached for surveys and interviews during the pandemic. As a result, the researchers saw “trends of a positive trajectory” on many measures for recipients — such as an increased ability to pay for a $400 emergency — but results were not strong enough to be statistically significant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By contrast, a recently concluded pilot program in Los Angeles included more than 3,200 recipients. 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But during the first month of the pandemic, spending on food spiked to nearly half of the tracked funds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Researchers noted that recipients also transferred about 40% of the funds off the debit cards, with some people explaining they worried about scams and feared the money would be taken away, or they chose to pay for things in cash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Castro noted many program recipients reported using the money to buy food in bulk during the stay-at-home orders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Those are activities that you can’t do when you’re experiencing poverty or when your income is going up and down each month,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946514\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11946514 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A profile picture of a young Black man with a black moustache and goatee looking off-camera into light to his right.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS43525_GettyImages-1208196864-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Tubbs, former mayor of Stockton, implemented an 18-month trial of universal basic income for 125 residents in the city. \u003ccite>(Nick Otto/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Less stress\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Gregory Gauthier, a 34-year-old recipient in Stockton, said the money helped keep his family afloat through two unexpected losses in income during the pandemic — once while he was waiting for unemployment checks when his job furloughed him for three months and again when he was recovering from surgery for several weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It would have been really hard” without guaranteed income payments, he said, which “make everything smoother and less stressful.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gauthier grew up in Stockton, in a working-class family that he said didn’t have much money and moved a lot.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11820737,news_11863446,news_11882363","label":"Related Coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The pilot program randomly picked recipients from neighborhoods where the median household income was less than the city’s average — about $46,000 a year at the time. When Gauthier enrolled in the program in 2019, he was making $13 an hour at an auto-dismantling business. He had four kids at the time; two lived with him, his mother and her husband.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gauthier had been saving to buy a car, he said, and the payments helped get him there sooner. He also spent it on food, car parts and his children’s clothing, school supplies and skateboards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the payments ended two years ago, he has felt the loss, he said, but his family has gotten by on the pay bumps he has earned at his auto-dismantling job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reflecting on the guaranteed income program, Gauthier said it allowed him to have enough to save for emergencies, and it prompted him to think about how to earn more in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With inflation I want to be above that, so I don’t have to worry,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11946467/study-shows-limits-of-stocktons-guaranteed-income-program-during-pandemic","authors":["byline_news_11946467"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8"],"tags":["news_32634","news_29559","news_28824","news_32122","news_784","news_19961","news_32635"],"featImg":"news_11838271","label":"source_news_11946467"},"news_11934613":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11934613","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11934613","score":null,"sort":[1670553023000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"gift-is-san-franciscos-guaranteed-income-program-for-transgender-people-heres-how-to-apply","title":"'GIFT' Is San Francisco's Guaranteed Income Program for Transgender People — Here's How to Apply","publishDate":1670553023,"format":"image","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11934949/gift-el-programa-de-san-francisco-que-otorgara-1200-al-mes-a-personas-transgenero\">\u003cem>Leer en español\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">GIFT program will provide 55 trans people living in the city with $1,200 per month\u003c/a> for up to 18 months — and the deadline to apply is approaching fast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>GIFT — which stands for Guaranteed Income for Transgender People — is \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/faq\">the first guaranteed income program in the Bay Area that focuses solely on serving trans people\u003c/a>. It's a creation of San Francisco officials in partnership with Lyon-Martin Community Health Services — an organization that provides medical care for trans, nonbinary and intersex people, along with cisgender women who are part of the LGBTQA+ community — and SF's Transgender District, which works to empower trans people, and to make trans people and history more visible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The deadline to \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">apply for GIFT\u003c/a> is Thursday, Dec. 15. There's \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">an online GIFT application form\u003c/a>, where you can upload all the required documents in the same portal. \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/es/apply\">GIFT's site is also available fully in Spanish.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/faq\">GIFT's site includes a commonly asked questions section\u003c/a>, and we’ve also created this guide to answer additional questions that audiences asked KQED about the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jump to:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#who\">\u003cstrong>Who is eligible to apply for GIFT?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#taxable\">\u003cstrong>How does GIFT work with my taxes, or with other benefits I'm getting?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#live\">\u003cstrong>How can I prove I live in San Francisco if my living situation is complicated?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#survey\">\u003cstrong>What are the surveys that participants have to do every three months?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#help\">\u003cstrong>Where can I speak to someone for help applying for GIFT?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>What is GIFT, and what is the program meant to do?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The GIFT program will offer 55 trans people in San Francisco a guaranteed income of $1,200 per month, for 18 months — starting in January 2023 and ending in June 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The funds will be given to participants via a new debit Visa card, which the program will reload with a fresh $1,200 each month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aubrey Davis, executive associate with the Transgender District, points out that many trans people in San Francisco continue to struggle making ends meet, due to layoffs but also discrimination that can make it harder for them to find a job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She says some trans folks are also dealing with homelessness and housing insecurity, after being pushed out by family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What this program is supposed to do is help the situation — make it possible for people to support themselves, for them to just have a little bit more ease with their finances,” Davis said. She added that by receiving direct financial assistance each month to cover some essential expenses, folks living in one of the most expensive cities in the country will be getting some sort of lifeline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"who\">\u003c/a>Who can apply for GIFT?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>To qualify to apply for GIFT, you must be:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Age 18 or over\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Not be receiving more than $600 per month in income\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Live in the city and county of San Francisco\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Agree to complete a survey for GIFT every three months during the program\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Your application must be fully completed and finished by the deadline of Dec. 15 to be considered for GIFT. Remember, 55 recipients will ultimately be selected for this pilot program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because only San Francisco residents can be participants in the program, since funding comes from the city and county of San Francisco, enrolled participants who then \u003cem>leave\u003c/em> San Francisco would also have to leave the GIFT program.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"taxable\">\u003c/a>How does GIFT work with my taxes, or with other benefits I'm receiving?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>You’ll have to report what you received from GIFT to the IRS when you file your 2023 taxes in 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other government agencies, like the Social Security Administration, will also consider GIFT as income — which could potentially affect other benefits folks receive, like Supplemental Security Income (SSI).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes it takes decades to get on SSI and when you finally receive it, you can only earn so much,” said Samuel Favela, program associate at the Transgender District. SSI and other government lifeline programs like CalFresh have strict income limits. And Favela points out the possibility that someone could lose these benefits if they exceed the income cap by receiving GIFT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you are chosen to be a GIFT participant and you also receive state benefits like CalFresh or CalWorks, Favela recommends notifying that agency about GIFT — \u003cem>before\u003c/em> you start receiving money. “If [you] don't report this, it’s going to catch up to [you] at the end of this program,” said Favela.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, Favela says the team at the Transgender District is committed to helping folks in these tricky situations, as the organization believes that someone shouldn’t have to choose between two lifelines when trying to survive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There's waivers that they could sign up for and we're going to be working with them on that as well.” said Favela.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the most important thing you can do if you're receiving government benefits and are moving forward along the GIFT application process? Be as transparent as possible with both GIFT organizers \u003cem>and\u003c/em> government agencies. “Their case manager is probably the best person [to contact], and their case manager can then reach out to us, too,” Favela added.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>I work informally. What can I do to prove my income?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>On the GIFT website, \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">you can upload a variety of documents\u003c/a> to go with your application that verify how much you earn. That can include W-2 forms, pay stubs or even bank statements. People who only receive SSI or SSDI income can share the letters they receive from the Social Security Administration confirming they receive these benefits. Even financial aid letters from schools are accepted as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But if you work informally and do not have documentation to go along with your earnings, you can instead provide a self-attestation letter. This \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/_files/ugd/40a234_1b957f500e164f44b6427e13fafebe91.pdf\">income attestation form is available as a PDF\u003c/a> on the GIFT website along with \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">other documents to download\u003c/a> and use, and lets you share how much income you are making a month, how many people live with you and why you cannot provide proof of income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re trusting people to make sure that they come in with correct information and have good intentions,” said Favela, who added that they are very understanding that folks have many different ways to pay the bills. \"So if they want to let us know that they're doing sex work and this is how much they make that month, they could just write an email and fill out that section that way,” Favela said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11867225\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11867225 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/03/pexels-cottonbro-5054213-scaled-e1617913983516.jpg\" alt=\"Two hands with dark brown skin type on a laptop in front of a window.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">On the GIFT website, you can upload a variety of documents to go with your application that verify how much you earn. \u003ccite>(Cottonbro/Pexels)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"live\">\u003c/a>My living situation is complicated, or I'm between housing at the moment. How can I prove I live in San Francisco?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Just like verifying your income, there are many ways you can confirm you currently live in San Francisco. If you don’t have any mail from PG&E or a phone company that includes your name and current address, you can ask a social worker or health care provider or agency you are working with to write a letter that confirms you are living in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you are staying at a shelter, you can request a homeless verification letter from shelter management. But if that's not an option, either, you can fill out \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/_files/ugd/40a234_1505cef25be14f31b42fe69aaf7b011d.pdf\">a different proof-of-residency self-attestation form available on the GIFT website (PDF)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the residency attestation form, you will have to confirm that you are currently unhoused and that there is not an agency or organization able to provide a letter confirming your housing status. Once completed, you can then \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">upload it to the website with the rest of your documents\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"survey\">\u003c/a>What about those follow-up surveys GIFT participants have to complete every three months?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Aubrey Davis, executive associate with the Transgender District, confirms that the goal of these check-ins is to understand how folks are doing since the program started. “We are not policing them on how to spend the money,” Davis said. “But we would like to know how it's improving their life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Lyon-Martin Community Health Services and the Transgender District will take part in these follow-ups, which would also touch on how a participant’s daily routine and responsibilities are changing. For example, Davis explained, “Are they receiving the mental health that they need? Are they able to pay for food? Are they able to pay for insurance? Are they able to go to those doctor's appointments or get prescriptions?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In these conversations, if a participant shares that they need health care services, they can be connected to treatment at Lyon-Martin Community Health Services. Some of this data will also be shared with the Office of Transgender Initiatives at City Hall. However, the team at the Transgender District clarified that this data will be used to better understand the impact of the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s also important to mention that city agencies do not share information on someone’s immigration status with federal agencies.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Can I apply to this program if I'm undocumented?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Yes, and you do not need a Social Security number to receive GIFT income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>People who are monolingual Spanish-speakers and undocumented immigrants have priority enrollment, say the organizers.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How exactly will participants be chosen?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Lyon-Martin Community Health Services and the Transgender District will select participants randomly. But among the target audience of trans San Franciscans, the program still has \"demographics that we're trying to hit,\" said Favela.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Sixty percent of people that we're going [to] try to have in the program are Black trans folks,\" they said.\u003c/strong> \"So in that randomized selection, at least 60% are going to be [Black trans folks].\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We will sort them out to each category that they fall in and then just randomize within each category,\" added Davis.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"help\">\u003c/a>I need help completing my application. Where can I go?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Because \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">the GIFT application is only available online\u003c/a>, it can be harder for people without regular access to a computer, or a stable internet connection, to apply.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To offer more personalized advice, the team at Lyon-Martin Community Health Services is taking walk-ins from folks who are interested in applying or have questions about their applications. You can talk to the team in person at the Lyon-Martin Community Health Services clinic located at 1735 Mission St., close to the 14 and 49 Muni lines. You can also call the front desk at (415) 565-7667.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Davis, with the Transgender District, also recommends reaching out to your social worker if you have one. If you or someone you know needs more help in Spanish, Davis recommends reaching out to \u003ca href=\"https://ellaparatranslatinas.org/\">El/La Para TransLatinas\u003c/a>, an organization that focuses on serving and advocating for trans Latinx people in the Bay Area. You can contact them by phone at (415) 864-7278.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What if you really want to apply for GIFT before the Dec. 15 deadline, but feel unsure or even nervous about doing so? You should still go for it, says Davis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Don't feel hesitant,” Davis urged, adding that because this is a pilot program, it can influence what San Francisco — and potentially many other cities — does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“At the moment, it’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and this will help so many more trans people, trans kids and trans elderly in the future,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"San Francisco's GIFT — Guaranteed Income for Transgender People — is the first guaranteed income program in the Bay Area that focuses solely on serving trans people. Here's how you can apply before the Dec. 15 deadline.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1670883345,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":44,"wordCount":1951},"headData":{"title":"'GIFT' Is San Francisco's Guaranteed Income Program for Transgender People — Here's How to Apply | KQED","description":"San Francisco's GIFT — Guaranteed Income for Transgender People — is the first guaranteed income program in the Bay Area that focuses solely on serving trans people. 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It's a creation of San Francisco officials in partnership with Lyon-Martin Community Health Services — an organization that provides medical care for trans, nonbinary and intersex people, along with cisgender women who are part of the LGBTQA+ community — and SF's Transgender District, which works to empower trans people, and to make trans people and history more visible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The deadline to \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">apply for GIFT\u003c/a> is Thursday, Dec. 15. There's \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">an online GIFT application form\u003c/a>, where you can upload all the required documents in the same portal. \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/es/apply\">GIFT's site is also available fully in Spanish.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/faq\">GIFT's site includes a commonly asked questions section\u003c/a>, and we’ve also created this guide to answer additional questions that audiences asked KQED about the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jump to:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#who\">\u003cstrong>Who is eligible to apply for GIFT?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#taxable\">\u003cstrong>How does GIFT work with my taxes, or with other benefits I'm getting?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#live\">\u003cstrong>How can I prove I live in San Francisco if my living situation is complicated?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#survey\">\u003cstrong>What are the surveys that participants have to do every three months?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#help\">\u003cstrong>Where can I speak to someone for help applying for GIFT?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>What is GIFT, and what is the program meant to do?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The GIFT program will offer 55 trans people in San Francisco a guaranteed income of $1,200 per month, for 18 months — starting in January 2023 and ending in June 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The funds will be given to participants via a new debit Visa card, which the program will reload with a fresh $1,200 each month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aubrey Davis, executive associate with the Transgender District, points out that many trans people in San Francisco continue to struggle making ends meet, due to layoffs but also discrimination that can make it harder for them to find a job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She says some trans folks are also dealing with homelessness and housing insecurity, after being pushed out by family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What this program is supposed to do is help the situation — make it possible for people to support themselves, for them to just have a little bit more ease with their finances,” Davis said. She added that by receiving direct financial assistance each month to cover some essential expenses, folks living in one of the most expensive cities in the country will be getting some sort of lifeline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"who\">\u003c/a>Who can apply for GIFT?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>To qualify to apply for GIFT, you must be:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Age 18 or over\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Not be receiving more than $600 per month in income\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Live in the city and county of San Francisco\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Agree to complete a survey for GIFT every three months during the program\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Your application must be fully completed and finished by the deadline of Dec. 15 to be considered for GIFT. Remember, 55 recipients will ultimately be selected for this pilot program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because only San Francisco residents can be participants in the program, since funding comes from the city and county of San Francisco, enrolled participants who then \u003cem>leave\u003c/em> San Francisco would also have to leave the GIFT program.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"taxable\">\u003c/a>How does GIFT work with my taxes, or with other benefits I'm receiving?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>You’ll have to report what you received from GIFT to the IRS when you file your 2023 taxes in 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other government agencies, like the Social Security Administration, will also consider GIFT as income — which could potentially affect other benefits folks receive, like Supplemental Security Income (SSI).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes it takes decades to get on SSI and when you finally receive it, you can only earn so much,” said Samuel Favela, program associate at the Transgender District. SSI and other government lifeline programs like CalFresh have strict income limits. And Favela points out the possibility that someone could lose these benefits if they exceed the income cap by receiving GIFT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you are chosen to be a GIFT participant and you also receive state benefits like CalFresh or CalWorks, Favela recommends notifying that agency about GIFT — \u003cem>before\u003c/em> you start receiving money. “If [you] don't report this, it’s going to catch up to [you] at the end of this program,” said Favela.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, Favela says the team at the Transgender District is committed to helping folks in these tricky situations, as the organization believes that someone shouldn’t have to choose between two lifelines when trying to survive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There's waivers that they could sign up for and we're going to be working with them on that as well.” said Favela.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the most important thing you can do if you're receiving government benefits and are moving forward along the GIFT application process? Be as transparent as possible with both GIFT organizers \u003cem>and\u003c/em> government agencies. “Their case manager is probably the best person [to contact], and their case manager can then reach out to us, too,” Favela added.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>I work informally. What can I do to prove my income?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>On the GIFT website, \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">you can upload a variety of documents\u003c/a> to go with your application that verify how much you earn. That can include W-2 forms, pay stubs or even bank statements. People who only receive SSI or SSDI income can share the letters they receive from the Social Security Administration confirming they receive these benefits. Even financial aid letters from schools are accepted as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But if you work informally and do not have documentation to go along with your earnings, you can instead provide a self-attestation letter. This \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/_files/ugd/40a234_1b957f500e164f44b6427e13fafebe91.pdf\">income attestation form is available as a PDF\u003c/a> on the GIFT website along with \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">other documents to download\u003c/a> and use, and lets you share how much income you are making a month, how many people live with you and why you cannot provide proof of income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re trusting people to make sure that they come in with correct information and have good intentions,” said Favela, who added that they are very understanding that folks have many different ways to pay the bills. \"So if they want to let us know that they're doing sex work and this is how much they make that month, they could just write an email and fill out that section that way,” Favela said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11867225\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11867225 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/03/pexels-cottonbro-5054213-scaled-e1617913983516.jpg\" alt=\"Two hands with dark brown skin type on a laptop in front of a window.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">On the GIFT website, you can upload a variety of documents to go with your application that verify how much you earn. \u003ccite>(Cottonbro/Pexels)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"live\">\u003c/a>My living situation is complicated, or I'm between housing at the moment. How can I prove I live in San Francisco?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Just like verifying your income, there are many ways you can confirm you currently live in San Francisco. If you don’t have any mail from PG&E or a phone company that includes your name and current address, you can ask a social worker or health care provider or agency you are working with to write a letter that confirms you are living in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you are staying at a shelter, you can request a homeless verification letter from shelter management. But if that's not an option, either, you can fill out \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/_files/ugd/40a234_1505cef25be14f31b42fe69aaf7b011d.pdf\">a different proof-of-residency self-attestation form available on the GIFT website (PDF)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the residency attestation form, you will have to confirm that you are currently unhoused and that there is not an agency or organization able to provide a letter confirming your housing status. Once completed, you can then \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">upload it to the website with the rest of your documents\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"survey\">\u003c/a>What about those follow-up surveys GIFT participants have to complete every three months?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Aubrey Davis, executive associate with the Transgender District, confirms that the goal of these check-ins is to understand how folks are doing since the program started. “We are not policing them on how to spend the money,” Davis said. “But we would like to know how it's improving their life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Lyon-Martin Community Health Services and the Transgender District will take part in these follow-ups, which would also touch on how a participant’s daily routine and responsibilities are changing. For example, Davis explained, “Are they receiving the mental health that they need? Are they able to pay for food? Are they able to pay for insurance? Are they able to go to those doctor's appointments or get prescriptions?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In these conversations, if a participant shares that they need health care services, they can be connected to treatment at Lyon-Martin Community Health Services. Some of this data will also be shared with the Office of Transgender Initiatives at City Hall. However, the team at the Transgender District clarified that this data will be used to better understand the impact of the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s also important to mention that city agencies do not share information on someone’s immigration status with federal agencies.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Can I apply to this program if I'm undocumented?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Yes, and you do not need a Social Security number to receive GIFT income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>People who are monolingual Spanish-speakers and undocumented immigrants have priority enrollment, say the organizers.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How exactly will participants be chosen?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Lyon-Martin Community Health Services and the Transgender District will select participants randomly. But among the target audience of trans San Franciscans, the program still has \"demographics that we're trying to hit,\" said Favela.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Sixty percent of people that we're going [to] try to have in the program are Black trans folks,\" they said.\u003c/strong> \"So in that randomized selection, at least 60% are going to be [Black trans folks].\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We will sort them out to each category that they fall in and then just randomize within each category,\" added Davis.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"help\">\u003c/a>I need help completing my application. Where can I go?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Because \u003ca href=\"https://www.giftincome.org/apply\">the GIFT application is only available online\u003c/a>, it can be harder for people without regular access to a computer, or a stable internet connection, to apply.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To offer more personalized advice, the team at Lyon-Martin Community Health Services is taking walk-ins from folks who are interested in applying or have questions about their applications. You can talk to the team in person at the Lyon-Martin Community Health Services clinic located at 1735 Mission St., close to the 14 and 49 Muni lines. You can also call the front desk at (415) 565-7667.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Davis, with the Transgender District, also recommends reaching out to your social worker if you have one. If you or someone you know needs more help in Spanish, Davis recommends reaching out to \u003ca href=\"https://ellaparatranslatinas.org/\">El/La Para TransLatinas\u003c/a>, an organization that focuses on serving and advocating for trans Latinx people in the Bay Area. You can contact them by phone at (415) 864-7278.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What if you really want to apply for GIFT before the Dec. 15 deadline, but feel unsure or even nervous about doing so? You should still go for it, says Davis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Don't feel hesitant,” Davis urged, adding that because this is a pilot program, it can influence what San Francisco — and potentially many other cities — does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“At the moment, it’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and this will help so many more trans people, trans kids and trans elderly in the future,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11934613/gift-is-san-franciscos-guaranteed-income-program-for-transgender-people-heres-how-to-apply","authors":["11708"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_20004","news_19960","news_38","news_4566","news_2486","news_19961"],"featImg":"news_11934701","label":"news"},"news_11907727":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11907727","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11907727","score":null,"sort":[1647273249000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"reknitting-the-safety-net-help-pay-the-rent","title":"Reknitting the Safety Net: Help Pay the Rent","publishDate":1647273249,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Reknitting the Safety Net: Help Pay the Rent | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Falling behind on rent is the primary reason that people are evicted. So how do you keep people from falling behind in the first place? Help them pay their rent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this final episode of the season, we’ll look at the promise, the problems and the history of Section 8, as well as the push for guaranteed income.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch5 id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC1525875908&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/h5>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>THE RENT EATS FIRST [TRANSCRIPT]\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN BALDASSARI, HOST\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Kemanie and his wife were like a lot of young couples just starting out. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was the early 2000s. He had recently started his career as a carpenter. She was a teacher. They were both in their mid-20s.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But even with two incomes, they could barely make ends meet. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We were living in a, like, a small, tiny little one-bedroom apartment with roaches, like basically a little small ghetto.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Then their son was born. His wife stopped working to take care of him. And their budget got even tighter. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And things was hard, but we started falling behind on rent.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How far behind were you on rent at that time?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I was $4,000 behind on rent at the time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY SOLOMON, HOST\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> They were living where they both grew up in Marin County, just across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At that point in time there was no way for us to survive in Marin County.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It didn’t help that it’s one of the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.california.com/the-most-expensive-counties-in-the-us/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">wealthiest counties in the country\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. Or that their landlord was planning on selling the apartment they were renting.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They couldn’t figure out how they were going to pay the back rent and still have money for a deposit to move somewhere new.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We would have been homeless\u003c/span>. You know, it would have been really bad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> They thought about moving in with one of their parents or leaving Marin County altogether. Then, they got some good news. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So we got it, we were out doing something — running an errand — and on the way back, my wife got the email.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> They got what some have called a “golden ticket” — a Section 8 housing voucher.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Section 8 is a federal program that helps low-income people afford rent on the private market.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kemanie and his wife had put in their application nearly \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">a decade\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> ago. And they’d been stuck on a waiting list that never seemed to budge. When they finally got the news, it was like winning the lottery. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We both looked at each other. And was, like, yes. I mean, it was like perfect timing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was a huge opportunity for them. With Section 8, they would only have to pay 30% of their income towards rent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KEMANIE\u003c/strong>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was an epiphany for us because it was like, life can go on now, like we — there’s a path forward. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> They wouldn’t fall behind on bills. And they’d have a chance to catch up. They’d have some room to breathe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: So, they started looking for a new place to live. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And we searched and searched and searched, and went and visited and talked to people, and knowing that we had the housing voucher, we thought it was going to be easier because it was a guarantee. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: A guarantee because most of the rent money comes from the federal government. It’s usually deposited straight into the landlord’s bank account.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And we found out that it was more of a hindrance than anything. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(Sold Out theme song begins.)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: It’s what most Section 8 tenants discover — the voucher is not only hard to get, it’s hard to use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> These problems aren’t new. And neither is Section 8. But over the past half century, it’s become the No. 1 way we subsidize rent in this country.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As rents climb higher, advocates say we need to fix the problems with Section 8 and expand it. To make it work for more people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Molly Solomon.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And I’m Erin Baldassari. From KQED, this is Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, the final chapter in our series on evictions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How to keep people from getting evicted? Help pay the rent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(Sold Out theme song ends.)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11908148\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11908148\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kemanie holds the keys to his Novato home. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cdiv class=\"mceTemp\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Kemanie and his wife have had a housing voucher for nearly two decades now. And anytime they’ve had to move, it’s always the same thing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They apply to dozens of places, visit a ton of apartments and get the same answers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And every single time it was like, no, nope, no, no.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It didn’t seem to matter that they had good references from past landlords, even letters from neighbors. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As soon as Section 8 comes up, you see like a glaze go over their eyes like, OK, I got to deal with this conversation and move on to the next person.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Some landlords told them point-blank they wouldn’t accept Section 8, even though that’s illegal in California and a handful of other states. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Those laws are hard to enforce, though. And landlords find all sorts of ways of getting around them — like requiring a credit score of 700 or above.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, it was kind of, smile in our face, “Oh, yeah, but your credit score is low.” But the bottom line is most people are on Section 8 because they’re having issues financially and their credit is not very good.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Or, landlords would ask them to have an income that’s at least three times the rent.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s like, if I make three times the monthly amount, I’m buying my own place. P\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">eriod, that’s it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Other times there was an online application, but no box to check to say they had Section 8. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Right? And you don’t even get to talk to anybody or even see anybody or state your case. And it doesn’t say you have Section 8 on the app, so you can’t fill that out. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Usually, though, they just never heard back. There was no explanation at all.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> So, Kemanie and his wife tried harder. They wrote cover letters. And organized all their references and documentation into nice, neat little folders.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We would put a little picture, a nice little cute picture of our Black family for people to accept and like and maybe, you know, feel sorry for us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was frustrating and stressful. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To Kemanie, it felt racist.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it really felt like redlining. Is, that’s how I felt about it, because they’re just like, no, you know.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Racial discrimination can be hard to prove, but a recent audit found it’s a pervasive problem.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Fair Housing Advocates of Northern California conducted paired tests of white and Black renters. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And found that \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.scribd.com/document/398920895/raceaudit2016-17?secret_password=A5Sg4qdij47q2erNlj3X#fullscreen&from_embed\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">nearly 70% of the time\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, landlords in the county where Kemanie lives refused to rent to Black tenants, or used more subtle behaviors, like leaving someone on hold for hours, never calling back or steering Black applicants away from certain neighborhoods. \u003ca href=\"https://www.scribd.com/document/504967414/no-and-soi-audit-2019-20-report?secret_password=wY0jrrhNpcBCBhEVm0zi#download&from_embed\">More than half the time\u003c/a>, landlords did the same for voucher holders.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> To Kemanie, this was not news. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He and his wife had lived their whole lives in Marin County — a community where more than 70% of the residents are white, and where the average household makes over $115,000 a year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s hard to explain it to other people. We’re Black in America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Every day, especially also for me, being a Black man and being very intimidating to a lot of people. Every single day, when I meet somebody, I got to put a smile on my face to like, look, I’m not threatening.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Holding a Section 8 voucher in his hands worsens the daily strain of trying to find acceptance. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And it felt like that times 10, because this time we’re looking for everyone’s approval and it’s — we’re trying to dress us up as the best we can to get accepted by people that we know maybe aren’t racist, but just aren’t as inclined to want us to be there. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That was very, very, very hard. And that was, I think, probably the most defeating part of the whole thing for us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>MOLLY\u003c/strong>: This discrimination is why we aren’t using Kemanie’s full name. Or his wife’s name.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The experience of looking for a place to live has been so traumatic, they’re afraid to do anything that might hurt their chances of finding a home the next time they have to start looking. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Their struggles with Section 8 highlight two of the program’s biggest failures.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Only \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/94146/trends-in-housing-problems-and-federal-housing-assistance.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">1 in 5\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> who qualify for rental assistance actually receives it. Meaning most people are stuck on waitlists for years — \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cbpp.org/research/housing/long-waitlists-for-housing-vouchers-show-pressing-unmet-need-for-assistance\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">even decades\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And when people do get off those waitlists, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/publications/pdf/sec8success_1.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">roughly a third\u003c/span>\u003c/a> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">lose \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">their vouchers because they can’t find any landlord willing to take them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That’s partly because there’s an unfair stigma around Section 8, even if it isn’t backed up by evidence. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/eva_rosen?lang=en\">Eva Rosen\u003c/a> is an assistant professor at Georgetown University, and she \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172569/the-voucher-promise\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">wrote a book on Section 8\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA ROSEN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Landlords sometimes don’t want to rent to big families. They often worry that voucher-holders might be more likely to do damage to the home \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">or that they might be noisier tenants. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And again, none of this is really backed up by any kind of data, but the stigma itself is very real.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This unfair stigma is made worse when you add in racism — the kind that Kemanie and his family felt. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nationally, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/assthsg.html#2009-2021_query\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">about two-thirds of voucher holders\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> are people of color.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> In my research with landlords, they say things like, well, I couldn’t rent to a Black person in this neighborhood because all of my other tenants are white and they would not like that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think racism is a big part of the reticence that we see from landlords.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Despite all these barriers, Kemanie and his family \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">were \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">able to find a place to live. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They’ve been at their current home for three and a half years now. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And in the world of Section 8, it’s kind of a unicorn. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s a single-family home on a quiet cul-de-sac in Novato, a wealthy suburb north of San Francisco. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is literally everything we could ask for. This is — we’re so incredibly happy here right now in the place that we have. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: It’s got three bedrooms, a two-car garage, and a big, tree-lined backyard.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There are parks nearby and great schools for their kids. And, they feel safe here. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Safety at school, safety coming home from school, you know, safety on the weekends, playing with their friends, you know, all of that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Only \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cbpp.org/research/housing/where-families-with-children-use-housing-vouchers\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">14% of voucher holders\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> live in affluent neighborhoods like this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kemanie and his wife know just how rare it is. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s like we’re living in a dream that we know are about to wake up from. We know at some point someone’s going to shake us and be like, “Hey, wake up.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That wake-up call could come in just a few months.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Their landlord told them they’re thinking about selling. And their current lease lasts only until September. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After that, there are no guarantees.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s all up in the air. Everything’s very unsettled for us. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When that time comes, they’ll have to find another landlord willing to take them. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They know from experience it won’t be easy. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To make the system better for tenants, we need to get more landlords on board. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ll tell you how, coming up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11908149\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11908149\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A ‘Welcome’ sign hangs by the door to the home Kemanie shares with his family in Novato. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>ERIN\u003c/strong>: When the Pruitt-Igoe public housing development in St. Louis, Missouri, opened in 1954, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_zFIg8N9Rw\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">it was celebrated\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> as a marvel of modern architecture: 33 towers, each 11 stories tall. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_zFIg8N9Rw\">\u003cb>\u003cem>COMMERCIAL FOR PRUITT-IGOE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT\u003c/em>\u003c/b>\u003c/a>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> With indoor plumbing, electric lights, fresh-plastered walls and the rest of the conveniences that are expected in the 20th century. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(Music in)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But just a decade later, it was falling apart and had become a symbol of government mismanagement and neglect, drawing national attention for its horrible living conditions. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Take \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-cfjqh1sSY&t=23s\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">this newscast\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, from 1968: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-cfjqh1sSY&t=23s\">\u003cb>\u003cem>KMOX NEWS REPORT\u003c/em>\u003c/b>\u003c/a>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When the temperatures dropped below freezing this week, water lines in several of the Pruitt-Igoe apartment buildings broke and the subsequent flow of water turned into ice. At 2311 Dixon, a sewer line is broken, and now raw sewage bubbles out of the ground like a malevolent spring. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>ERIN\u003c/strong>: On \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.greyscape.com/modernism-was-framed-the-truth-about-pruitt-igoe/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">March 16, 1972\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, the first of its 33 towers was demolished. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Sounds: A building is being demolished; Pruitt-Igoe implodes.)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=738WpY2_JV8\">\u003cb>PRUITT-IGOE IMPLOSION\u003c/b>\u003c/a>\u003c/em>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Not only St. Louis, but the rest of the nation is viewing with great interest the results of this experiment.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(Music out)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> President Richard Nixon saw the growing frustration with public housing failures like Pruitt-Igoe. And so he took a turn towards the private market instead. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Two years after that demolition, Nixon introduced Section 8. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Again, here’s Georgetown University professor Eva Rosen.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You’re not having to build public housing, you’re not having to maintain or renovate a public housing stock. And so it is this sort of very, in theory, economically efficient tool.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Under Nixon, Section 8 was just a pilot program.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But by the 1990s, the stage was set for it to grow. Public housing had gotten a real bad rap, and that’s when President Bill Clinton really ramped up Section 8.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today I had the honor of signing the budget for programs to help the homeless to give housing vouchers to empower the poor.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> His administration changed the name from Section 8 to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/public_indian_housing/phr/about\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Housing Choice Vouchers\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And actually in the title, you can very much notice this emphasis on choice.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: Eva says that reflects one of the goals for the program. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hope was that people could use their vouchers to move to more affluent neighborhoods. Neighborhoods with more resources, better schools and more jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>ERIN\u003c/strong>: Public housing had become extremely segregated. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">By 1989, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal//Publications/pdf/HUD-5961.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">nearly 70% of the households \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">of the residents were people of color. Mostly women-led, Black and Latinx households.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And most of the housing developments were also in segregated and impoverished neighborhoods. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that was causing all kinds of problems. And it was leaving public housing residents with very little choice about where they ended up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Eva says the program hasn’t lived up to its promise of giving voucher holders a real choice of where to live. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And a lot of that comes down to landlords: when \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">they \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">choose to participate, and why.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When we introduced these private landlords into this system, we sort of just assumed that they would play along, that they would want to participate. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that tends not always to be the case.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">some \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">landlords, Section 8 works really well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Eugene Zinchik and his brother own a real estate and property management company in San Francisco. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And he’s been renting to voucher holders for about six or seven years now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b> \u003cstrong>ZINCHIK\u003c/strong>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s more stability in knowing that your rent checks are going to be coming, you know, whatever it is that happens. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">During the pandemic, most of Eugene’s Section 8 tenants stayed put, and their rent checks kept flowing in. But a lot of his tenants who didn’t have vouchers — they left.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even without the coronavirus, Eugene says voucher holders just stick around longer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s less turnover for a landlord. If there’s less turnover, there’s no rent that they’re losing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: But Eugene says the\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> real \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">benefit\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> to landlords \u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/sites/default/files/pdf/Urban-Landlords-HCV-Program.pdf\">depends a lot on where the property is\u003c/a>.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He points to a new building he’s managing in San Francisco’s Bayview neighborhood. Even though he hasn’t found a tenant yet, Eugene already knows it’ll be someone on Section 8. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Part of San Francisco is extremely, extremely expensive. Bayview is still semi-affordable for maybe, still, for a blue-collar family. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: He says r\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">ents here are about $1,000 lower than in other parts of the city. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But landlords can actually \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/mdesmond/files/desmondperkins.cc_.2016.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">charge a Section 8 \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">more\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> than they would with someone without a voucher.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s because when the government decides how much it’s willing to pay for each voucher, it doesn’t vary the amounts by neighborhood. It sets one standard for the whole city.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So it’s a pretty good deal for landlords in places like Bayview.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So in Bayview, in my experience, the amounts that Section 8 pays are pretty much competitive.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But landlords in high-rent places could actually \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">lose \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">money. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In at least half the neighborhoods in San Francisco, Section 8 what they pay per unit is just not compatible with the market rent.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>ERIN\u003c/strong>: Eva says those incentives have created an unintended consequence: Most Section 8 tenants are trapped in low-income neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And this is where you start to understand how the program, which was designed and very much hoped to provide tenants choice, actually creates sort of an opposite scenario where they’re being pushed away from the kind of neighborhoods that they might want to end up in and forced into neighborhoods that they don’t necessarily want to be in.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Eugene says even when landlords \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">want \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">to rent to a voucher holder, it’s not that easy. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You have to jump through a lot of hoops. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What kind of hoops? Well, let’s take a look.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">First, there are the forms. For both tenants and landlords. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, forms could be scary if you’ve never seen this form before.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Let’s say you do fill them out correctly. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> For about two weeks, you probably hear nothing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Then, hopefully, you get a call for an inspection. The housing authority needs to make sure these buildings are up to code. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For that, you’ll need to take the day off work. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of times you get a four-hour window for the inspector to come in.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And if you have any questions, don’t try to get anyone on the phone. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just talking to somebody, you’d be waiting on hold for an hour.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Eugene says it’s like dealing with the DMV.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, we’ve all been there, but you know, we don’t really want to do that unless we have to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The federal Department of Housing and Urban Development held \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/PIH/documents/ListeningForumsPublicSummary012320.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">listening sessions\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> with property owners across the country back in 2018. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Most of the sessions were taken up by complaints. Eighty-two\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> percent said they had bad experiences dealing with their local housing authority. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One of their biggest issues: how long it takes to sign up a new tenant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The whole process can take a month or two — time spent without collecting rent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For a landlord to just sit and wait for that tenant is not, is not reasonable, especially if it’s an individual like a mom-and-pop type of shop.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So how do we improve Section 8? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For tenants to have more choice — you know, the original goal of the program — you need more landlords with properties in more neighborhoods. Here’s Eva Rosen: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When we think about landlord participation, I think we need to think about carrots and sticks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That means tougher laws to prevent landlords from discriminating against Section 8 tenants. And better enforcement. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s sort of like a stick, right? It’s a slap on the wrist. It’s a no, you’re not allowed to do this.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And, then there’s the carrot: more voucher money for properties in wealthier neighborhoods. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s something the federal government is already trying. They’re basing the rent on the ZIP code, instead of one standard for the whole city.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because there’s no way a landlord is going to participate in the program if they’re getting less rent than they would get from a market tenant, right?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">An early test of the program \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/sites/default/files/pdf/SAFMR-Interim-Report.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">showed it worked\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. More landlords in affluent areas opened their doors to Section 8.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But in a few cities, there was a downside, too. Some landlords in low-income neighborhoods stopped renting to voucher holders. That led to a drop in the number of homes available there. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Still, the results were still promising enough that they’ve expanded it to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cbpp.org/research/housing/a-guide-to-small-area-fair-market-rents-safmrs\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">two dozen cities\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> across the country.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11908157\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11908157\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eugene Zinchik poses inside a property he manages in San Francisco’s Bayview neighborhood. \u003ccite>(Erin Baldassari/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Another way to recruit more landlords? Cut the red tape. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Give those individuals that have the voucher more say of what they’re able to do. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Give the power to that individual to sign on their own behalf to take the place or not take the place.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After all, Section 8 was supposed to be about choice. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, Eugene says, let people make their own. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Coming up: A different solution that \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">is \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">all about choice. And cold, hard cash. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When the coronavirus hit — and the economy shut down — one thing was clear: People needed cash. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the federal government stepped in. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzMNV2qH2IA\">\u003cb>WCNC\u003c/b>\u003c/a>\u003c/em>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stimulus checks are rolling in for millions of Americans today. About 80 million people are expected to receive their payments today.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhyfKmBfRi8\">\u003cem>\u003cb>NBC\u003c/b>\u003c/em>\u003c/a>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, these direct payments are what everyone is talking about because 90% of American households should be getting some money. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Before the pandemic, the idea of giving out free money in this country was kind of a hard sell. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/nataliefoster?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\">Natalie Foster\u003c/a> is the president and co-founder of the Economic Security Project. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>NATALIE FOSTER\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Then the pandemic hit and it became clear that cash was the currency of urgency.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it wasn’t just stimulus checks. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>NATALIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pandemic unemployment insurance was important for supporting people in the midst of job loss, expanding tax credits like the earned income tax credit and the child tax credit. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These were all things that the government did.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For a lot of families, that extra money was a lifeline. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Despite a recession and a global pandemic, poverty in this country actually \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">decreased\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>NATALIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We saw a decrease in poverty, and that is because the government realized that poverty is a policy choice and we could make different choices. And so the politics of the moment allowed for us to make a different choice.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We also made a choice to keep more people housed, with eviction moratoriums and rent relief. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For progressives and others, those pandemic-era programs were a golden opportunity t\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">o tackle poverty and housing insecurity on a grand scale. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And test an idea that’s been gaining steam over the past couple years. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cb>NEWS CLIPS\u003c/b>\u003c/em>: It’s an idea known as guaranteed basic income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A monthly, no-strings-attached cash payment given directly to individuals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A guaranteed income. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Basically, if you want to solve poverty, give people money. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s how it would work: The money would come from the federal government, ideally in the form of a regular, monthly payment.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The amount wouldn’t make you rich, but it could help pay for your housing, your food or whatever else you need. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: F\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">or all the excitement around guaranteed income today, it’s not actually a new idea. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thomas Paine argued for it way back in the 18th century. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And over the years, its supporters have come from all over the political spectrum.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">From the Black Panthers, to President Richard Nixon. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cb>RECORDING OF PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON DISCUSSING GUARANTEED INCOME\u003c/b>\u003c/em>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What I am proposing is that the federal government build a foundation under the income of every American family with dependent children that cannot care for itself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">From libertarian economist Milton Friedman to civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It seems to me that the civil rights movement must now begin to organize for the guaranteed annual income, begin to organize people all over our country and mobilize forces, so that we can bring to the attention of our nation, this need and this something which I believe will go a long, long way toward dealing with the Negros’ economic problem and the economic problem with many other poor people confronting our nation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Alaska’s been doing this \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://pfd.alaska.gov/Division-Info/historical-timeline\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">since the 1980s\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, paying out oil dividends to all its residents — on average, about $1,600 a year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But more recently, about 90 guaranteed-income experiments have popped up across the country. Most were inspired by one city: Stockton, California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL TUBBS\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hello, my name is \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/MichaelDTubbs?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\">Michael Tubbs\u003c/a>. I am the former mayor of the city of Stockton, California. I’m the founder of \u003ca href=\"https://www.mayorsforagi.org/\">Mayors for a Guaranteed Income\u003c/a> and of \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2022/02/former-stockton-mayor-launches-nonprofit-to-end-poverty-in-california/\">End Poverty in California.\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Michael led Stockton’s guaranteed-income program back in 2019. He says a lot of the issues that came across his desk all came back to the same thing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Issues of poverty and lack and pervasive poverty and generational poverty.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stockton was the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/business/2008/jul/28/subprimecrisis.useconomy\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">foreclosure capital\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> of the country during the Great Recession. It \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/article/us-stockton-bankruptcy/stockton-california-files-for-bankruptcy-idUSBRE85S05120120629\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">declared bankruptcy\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in 2012. And today, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/about-seed\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">about a quarter\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> of its population lives below the poverty line. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Michael wanted to bring a guaranteed income to Stockton because the old way of addressing poverty wasn’t working. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The programs we have now — like welfare or food stamps or housing vouchers — they have a lot of rules and regulations. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11882364\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11882364\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-800x533.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-1020x680.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-1536x1024.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Tubbs, former mayor of Stockton, is seen at his office in Stockton on Feb. 7, 2020. As mayor, with the help of the Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration, he implemented an 18-month trial of universal basic income for 125 residents of his city. The concept has recently been gaining ground. \u003ccite>(Nick Otto/AFP via Getty Images))\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When you’re on welfare, you have to spend so much time being with case managers, filling out forms, doing this, doing that, which robs you of the ability to do all the other things you need to do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Guaranteed-income programs don’t require all that micromanagement, which frees up people’s time. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, they have another benefit: You can spend the money however you need. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Whether it’s on new tires, a transmission, a new washer and dryer, school clothes, a wedding, going to visit your parents you haven’t seen in a while.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When people in Stockton were given the choice of how to use the $500 they got each month, they tended to spend it on food and other essentials.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some also used it to help pay for housing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They were able to sort of save up for a down payment to move to safer living conditions. Or some people use it to cope with sort of small rises in rent that occur: $50 here or $100 here, $125 here. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Researchers in Stockton didn’t look specifically at the impact of a guaranteed income on evictions. But the small stipend could help. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/12/upshot/eviction-prevention-solutions-government.html\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Most people get evicted for $600 or less\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, according to a New York Times analysis. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just knowing you have enough money to get to the end of the month also goes a long way for your mental health.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Folks who received the guaranteed income went from elevated levels of stress to regular levels of stress. And that just was like, wow, like money really sort of affects health and mental health and well-being and how we show up in the world. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But probably one of the biggest findings from Stockton: \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It challenged a widely held criticism of guaranteed income, that it would cause people to stop working. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The money actually had the opposite effect. \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/employment\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People worked \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">more.\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">About \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/employment\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">12% went from part-time to full-time work\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. That’s more than double the control group. And participants were less likely to be unemployed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I wasn’t surprised, but I’m glad the data validated this belief that that $500 was not going to make anyone stop working, that people still worked.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Michael says that’s because it wasn’t enough to live on. But it gave people some breathing room. It allowed them to quit one of their part-time jobs and look for full-time work.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Or go back to school to change careers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It allowed people the chance to live. And live a life, and live a life beyond just going through the motions and working and going to sleep and working, going to sleep. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Still, critics say you shouldn’t draw too many conclusions from one small pilot program — with only 125 participants. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rolling out a guaranteed income nationally could have a much bigger impact on the economy. And many worry that all that extra cash would only cause prices to rise, setting off higher inflation. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guaranteed income also does nothing to solve a larger problem. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The thing we \u003ca href=\"https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cesan.nr0.htm#:~:text=%2D%2DHousing%20expenditures%20increased%203.5,dwellings%20were%20down%200.5%20percent.\">spend the most money on is housing\u003c/a>. And that just keeps going up. Taking a \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/10/home-prices-are-now-rising-much-faster-than-incomes-studies-show.html\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">bigger and bigger piece\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> out of our paychecks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guaranteed income is great, but we don’t want all that money to be spent on housing because people have other needs, right? So I think a guaranteed income is a powerful tool. But like any toolbox, you need more than one tool to really get the job done. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Guaranteed income can’t solve poverty on its own. But Michael says it’s a good place to start if we want to solve other big problems, like evictions. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Evictions perpetuate inequality, a\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">nd they push more people into poverty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When you’re evicted, you lose your neighborhood, your school, your support network. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You can be trapped in a cycle of debt, even become homeless. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But the solutions are within our reach, and people are already pushing for them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Activists in Fresno are fighting for a fair shot in court. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Tenants in Antioch are demanding more protection against rising rents. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And women like \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11905386/why-black-women-are-more-likely-to-face-eviction\">Jean [Kendrick, from Episode 2]\u003c/a> are sharing their stories and calling attention to inequities we can’t unsee. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Evictions reflect our housing system: who reaps the profit and who suffers the pain.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But we have an opportunity to make the system more fair, to invest in people’s success, not just for a few, but for all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The question is, will we take it? \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Erin Baldassari.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’m Molly Solomon. Thank you so much for listening to Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you like what you hear, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — and share it with a friend!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We’ve got one more thing that we’re working on. It’s a bonus episode full of stories from you. That’ll drop in a few weeks, so stay tuned. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sold Out is a production of KQED. This episode was written and reported by us: Molly Solomon and Erin Baldassari.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Adhiti Bandlamudi produced this episode. Kyana Moghadam is our senior producer. Brendan Willard is our sound engineer. And Rob Speight wrote our theme song.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Natalia Aldana is our senior engagement producer and Gerald Fermin is our engagement intern.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Thank you to our editor, Erika Kelly. Additional editing from Jessica Placzek and Otis Taylor Jr.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We couldn’t have made this season without Ethan Toven-Lindsey, Holly Kernan, Erika Aguilar and Vinnee Tong. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thank you for listening! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Let us know what you think of the show by \u003ca href=\"https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/6755022/f959eb5782fc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">taking a quick survey\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"To many renters, a Section 8 housing voucher is seen as a \"golden ticket,\" a federal subsidy that ensures only 30% of their income goes to rent. But actually using it is a struggle. 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So how do you keep people from falling behind in the first place? Help them pay their rent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this final episode of the season, we’ll look at the promise, the problems and the history of Section 8, as well as the push for guaranteed income.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch5 id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC1525875908&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/h5>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>THE RENT EATS FIRST [TRANSCRIPT]\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN BALDASSARI, HOST\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Kemanie and his wife were like a lot of young couples just starting out. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was the early 2000s. He had recently started his career as a carpenter. She was a teacher. They were both in their mid-20s.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But even with two incomes, they could barely make ends meet. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We were living in a, like, a small, tiny little one-bedroom apartment with roaches, like basically a little small ghetto.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Then their son was born. His wife stopped working to take care of him. And their budget got even tighter. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And things was hard, but we started falling behind on rent.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How far behind were you on rent at that time?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I was $4,000 behind on rent at the time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY SOLOMON, HOST\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> They were living where they both grew up in Marin County, just across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At that point in time there was no way for us to survive in Marin County.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It didn’t help that it’s one of the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.california.com/the-most-expensive-counties-in-the-us/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">wealthiest counties in the country\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. Or that their landlord was planning on selling the apartment they were renting.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They couldn’t figure out how they were going to pay the back rent and still have money for a deposit to move somewhere new.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We would have been homeless\u003c/span>. You know, it would have been really bad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> They thought about moving in with one of their parents or leaving Marin County altogether. Then, they got some good news. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So we got it, we were out doing something — running an errand — and on the way back, my wife got the email.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> They got what some have called a “golden ticket” — a Section 8 housing voucher.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Section 8 is a federal program that helps low-income people afford rent on the private market.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kemanie and his wife had put in their application nearly \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">a decade\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> ago. And they’d been stuck on a waiting list that never seemed to budge. When they finally got the news, it was like winning the lottery. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We both looked at each other. And was, like, yes. I mean, it was like perfect timing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was a huge opportunity for them. With Section 8, they would only have to pay 30% of their income towards rent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KEMANIE\u003c/strong>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was an epiphany for us because it was like, life can go on now, like we — there’s a path forward. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> They wouldn’t fall behind on bills. And they’d have a chance to catch up. They’d have some room to breathe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: So, they started looking for a new place to live. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And we searched and searched and searched, and went and visited and talked to people, and knowing that we had the housing voucher, we thought it was going to be easier because it was a guarantee. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: A guarantee because most of the rent money comes from the federal government. It’s usually deposited straight into the landlord’s bank account.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And we found out that it was more of a hindrance than anything. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(Sold Out theme song begins.)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: It’s what most Section 8 tenants discover — the voucher is not only hard to get, it’s hard to use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> These problems aren’t new. And neither is Section 8. But over the past half century, it’s become the No. 1 way we subsidize rent in this country.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As rents climb higher, advocates say we need to fix the problems with Section 8 and expand it. To make it work for more people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Molly Solomon.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And I’m Erin Baldassari. From KQED, this is Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, the final chapter in our series on evictions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How to keep people from getting evicted? Help pay the rent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(Sold Out theme song ends.)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11908148\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11908148\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54286_009_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kemanie holds the keys to his Novato home. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cdiv class=\"mceTemp\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Kemanie and his wife have had a housing voucher for nearly two decades now. And anytime they’ve had to move, it’s always the same thing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They apply to dozens of places, visit a ton of apartments and get the same answers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And every single time it was like, no, nope, no, no.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It didn’t seem to matter that they had good references from past landlords, even letters from neighbors. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As soon as Section 8 comes up, you see like a glaze go over their eyes like, OK, I got to deal with this conversation and move on to the next person.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Some landlords told them point-blank they wouldn’t accept Section 8, even though that’s illegal in California and a handful of other states. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Those laws are hard to enforce, though. And landlords find all sorts of ways of getting around them — like requiring a credit score of 700 or above.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, it was kind of, smile in our face, “Oh, yeah, but your credit score is low.” But the bottom line is most people are on Section 8 because they’re having issues financially and their credit is not very good.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Or, landlords would ask them to have an income that’s at least three times the rent.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s like, if I make three times the monthly amount, I’m buying my own place. P\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">eriod, that’s it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Other times there was an online application, but no box to check to say they had Section 8. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Right? And you don’t even get to talk to anybody or even see anybody or state your case. And it doesn’t say you have Section 8 on the app, so you can’t fill that out. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Usually, though, they just never heard back. There was no explanation at all.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> So, Kemanie and his wife tried harder. They wrote cover letters. And organized all their references and documentation into nice, neat little folders.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We would put a little picture, a nice little cute picture of our Black family for people to accept and like and maybe, you know, feel sorry for us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was frustrating and stressful. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To Kemanie, it felt racist.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it really felt like redlining. Is, that’s how I felt about it, because they’re just like, no, you know.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Racial discrimination can be hard to prove, but a recent audit found it’s a pervasive problem.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Fair Housing Advocates of Northern California conducted paired tests of white and Black renters. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And found that \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.scribd.com/document/398920895/raceaudit2016-17?secret_password=A5Sg4qdij47q2erNlj3X#fullscreen&from_embed\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">nearly 70% of the time\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, landlords in the county where Kemanie lives refused to rent to Black tenants, or used more subtle behaviors, like leaving someone on hold for hours, never calling back or steering Black applicants away from certain neighborhoods. \u003ca href=\"https://www.scribd.com/document/504967414/no-and-soi-audit-2019-20-report?secret_password=wY0jrrhNpcBCBhEVm0zi#download&from_embed\">More than half the time\u003c/a>, landlords did the same for voucher holders.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> To Kemanie, this was not news. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He and his wife had lived their whole lives in Marin County — a community where more than 70% of the residents are white, and where the average household makes over $115,000 a year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s hard to explain it to other people. We’re Black in America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Every day, especially also for me, being a Black man and being very intimidating to a lot of people. Every single day, when I meet somebody, I got to put a smile on my face to like, look, I’m not threatening.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Holding a Section 8 voucher in his hands worsens the daily strain of trying to find acceptance. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And it felt like that times 10, because this time we’re looking for everyone’s approval and it’s — we’re trying to dress us up as the best we can to get accepted by people that we know maybe aren’t racist, but just aren’t as inclined to want us to be there. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That was very, very, very hard. And that was, I think, probably the most defeating part of the whole thing for us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>MOLLY\u003c/strong>: This discrimination is why we aren’t using Kemanie’s full name. Or his wife’s name.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The experience of looking for a place to live has been so traumatic, they’re afraid to do anything that might hurt their chances of finding a home the next time they have to start looking. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Their struggles with Section 8 highlight two of the program’s biggest failures.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Only \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/94146/trends-in-housing-problems-and-federal-housing-assistance.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">1 in 5\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> who qualify for rental assistance actually receives it. Meaning most people are stuck on waitlists for years — \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cbpp.org/research/housing/long-waitlists-for-housing-vouchers-show-pressing-unmet-need-for-assistance\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">even decades\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And when people do get off those waitlists, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/publications/pdf/sec8success_1.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">roughly a third\u003c/span>\u003c/a> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">lose \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">their vouchers because they can’t find any landlord willing to take them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That’s partly because there’s an unfair stigma around Section 8, even if it isn’t backed up by evidence. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/eva_rosen?lang=en\">Eva Rosen\u003c/a> is an assistant professor at Georgetown University, and she \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172569/the-voucher-promise\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">wrote a book on Section 8\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA ROSEN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Landlords sometimes don’t want to rent to big families. They often worry that voucher-holders might be more likely to do damage to the home \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">or that they might be noisier tenants. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And again, none of this is really backed up by any kind of data, but the stigma itself is very real.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This unfair stigma is made worse when you add in racism — the kind that Kemanie and his family felt. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nationally, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/assthsg.html#2009-2021_query\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">about two-thirds of voucher holders\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> are people of color.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> In my research with landlords, they say things like, well, I couldn’t rent to a Black person in this neighborhood because all of my other tenants are white and they would not like that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think racism is a big part of the reticence that we see from landlords.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Despite all these barriers, Kemanie and his family \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">were \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">able to find a place to live. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They’ve been at their current home for three and a half years now. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And in the world of Section 8, it’s kind of a unicorn. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s a single-family home on a quiet cul-de-sac in Novato, a wealthy suburb north of San Francisco. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is literally everything we could ask for. This is — we’re so incredibly happy here right now in the place that we have. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: It’s got three bedrooms, a two-car garage, and a big, tree-lined backyard.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There are parks nearby and great schools for their kids. And, they feel safe here. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Safety at school, safety coming home from school, you know, safety on the weekends, playing with their friends, you know, all of that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Only \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cbpp.org/research/housing/where-families-with-children-use-housing-vouchers\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">14% of voucher holders\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> live in affluent neighborhoods like this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kemanie and his wife know just how rare it is. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s like we’re living in a dream that we know are about to wake up from. We know at some point someone’s going to shake us and be like, “Hey, wake up.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That wake-up call could come in just a few months.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Their landlord told them they’re thinking about selling. And their current lease lasts only until September. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After that, there are no guarantees.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>KEMANIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s all up in the air. Everything’s very unsettled for us. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When that time comes, they’ll have to find another landlord willing to take them. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They know from experience it won’t be easy. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To make the system better for tenants, we need to get more landlords on board. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ll tell you how, coming up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11908149\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11908149\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/RS54283_006_KQED_Kemanie_03112022-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A ‘Welcome’ sign hangs by the door to the home Kemanie shares with his family in Novato. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>ERIN\u003c/strong>: When the Pruitt-Igoe public housing development in St. Louis, Missouri, opened in 1954, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_zFIg8N9Rw\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">it was celebrated\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> as a marvel of modern architecture: 33 towers, each 11 stories tall. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_zFIg8N9Rw\">\u003cb>\u003cem>COMMERCIAL FOR PRUITT-IGOE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT\u003c/em>\u003c/b>\u003c/a>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> With indoor plumbing, electric lights, fresh-plastered walls and the rest of the conveniences that are expected in the 20th century. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(Music in)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But just a decade later, it was falling apart and had become a symbol of government mismanagement and neglect, drawing national attention for its horrible living conditions. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Take \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-cfjqh1sSY&t=23s\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">this newscast\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, from 1968: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-cfjqh1sSY&t=23s\">\u003cb>\u003cem>KMOX NEWS REPORT\u003c/em>\u003c/b>\u003c/a>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When the temperatures dropped below freezing this week, water lines in several of the Pruitt-Igoe apartment buildings broke and the subsequent flow of water turned into ice. At 2311 Dixon, a sewer line is broken, and now raw sewage bubbles out of the ground like a malevolent spring. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>ERIN\u003c/strong>: On \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.greyscape.com/modernism-was-framed-the-truth-about-pruitt-igoe/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">March 16, 1972\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, the first of its 33 towers was demolished. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Sounds: A building is being demolished; Pruitt-Igoe implodes.)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=738WpY2_JV8\">\u003cb>PRUITT-IGOE IMPLOSION\u003c/b>\u003c/a>\u003c/em>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Not only St. Louis, but the rest of the nation is viewing with great interest the results of this experiment.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(Music out)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> President Richard Nixon saw the growing frustration with public housing failures like Pruitt-Igoe. And so he took a turn towards the private market instead. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Two years after that demolition, Nixon introduced Section 8. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Again, here’s Georgetown University professor Eva Rosen.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You’re not having to build public housing, you’re not having to maintain or renovate a public housing stock. And so it is this sort of very, in theory, economically efficient tool.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Under Nixon, Section 8 was just a pilot program.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But by the 1990s, the stage was set for it to grow. Public housing had gotten a real bad rap, and that’s when President Bill Clinton really ramped up Section 8.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today I had the honor of signing the budget for programs to help the homeless to give housing vouchers to empower the poor.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> His administration changed the name from Section 8 to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/public_indian_housing/phr/about\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Housing Choice Vouchers\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And actually in the title, you can very much notice this emphasis on choice.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: Eva says that reflects one of the goals for the program. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hope was that people could use their vouchers to move to more affluent neighborhoods. Neighborhoods with more resources, better schools and more jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>ERIN\u003c/strong>: Public housing had become extremely segregated. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">By 1989, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal//Publications/pdf/HUD-5961.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">nearly 70% of the households \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">of the residents were people of color. Mostly women-led, Black and Latinx households.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And most of the housing developments were also in segregated and impoverished neighborhoods. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that was causing all kinds of problems. And it was leaving public housing residents with very little choice about where they ended up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Eva says the program hasn’t lived up to its promise of giving voucher holders a real choice of where to live. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And a lot of that comes down to landlords: when \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">they \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">choose to participate, and why.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When we introduced these private landlords into this system, we sort of just assumed that they would play along, that they would want to participate. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that tends not always to be the case.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">some \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">landlords, Section 8 works really well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Eugene Zinchik and his brother own a real estate and property management company in San Francisco. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And he’s been renting to voucher holders for about six or seven years now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b> \u003cstrong>ZINCHIK\u003c/strong>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s more stability in knowing that your rent checks are going to be coming, you know, whatever it is that happens. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">During the pandemic, most of Eugene’s Section 8 tenants stayed put, and their rent checks kept flowing in. But a lot of his tenants who didn’t have vouchers — they left.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even without the coronavirus, Eugene says voucher holders just stick around longer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s less turnover for a landlord. If there’s less turnover, there’s no rent that they’re losing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: But Eugene says the\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> real \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">benefit\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> to landlords \u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/sites/default/files/pdf/Urban-Landlords-HCV-Program.pdf\">depends a lot on where the property is\u003c/a>.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He points to a new building he’s managing in San Francisco’s Bayview neighborhood. Even though he hasn’t found a tenant yet, Eugene already knows it’ll be someone on Section 8. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Part of San Francisco is extremely, extremely expensive. Bayview is still semi-affordable for maybe, still, for a blue-collar family. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: He says r\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">ents here are about $1,000 lower than in other parts of the city. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But landlords can actually \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/mdesmond/files/desmondperkins.cc_.2016.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">charge a Section 8 \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">more\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> than they would with someone without a voucher.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s because when the government decides how much it’s willing to pay for each voucher, it doesn’t vary the amounts by neighborhood. It sets one standard for the whole city.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So it’s a pretty good deal for landlords in places like Bayview.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So in Bayview, in my experience, the amounts that Section 8 pays are pretty much competitive.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But landlords in high-rent places could actually \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">lose \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">money. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In at least half the neighborhoods in San Francisco, Section 8 what they pay per unit is just not compatible with the market rent.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>ERIN\u003c/strong>: Eva says those incentives have created an unintended consequence: Most Section 8 tenants are trapped in low-income neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And this is where you start to understand how the program, which was designed and very much hoped to provide tenants choice, actually creates sort of an opposite scenario where they’re being pushed away from the kind of neighborhoods that they might want to end up in and forced into neighborhoods that they don’t necessarily want to be in.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Eugene says even when landlords \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">want \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">to rent to a voucher holder, it’s not that easy. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You have to jump through a lot of hoops. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What kind of hoops? Well, let’s take a look.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">First, there are the forms. For both tenants and landlords. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, forms could be scary if you’ve never seen this form before.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Let’s say you do fill them out correctly. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> For about two weeks, you probably hear nothing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Then, hopefully, you get a call for an inspection. The housing authority needs to make sure these buildings are up to code. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For that, you’ll need to take the day off work. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of times you get a four-hour window for the inspector to come in.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And if you have any questions, don’t try to get anyone on the phone. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just talking to somebody, you’d be waiting on hold for an hour.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Eugene says it’s like dealing with the DMV.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, we’ve all been there, but you know, we don’t really want to do that unless we have to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The federal Department of Housing and Urban Development held \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/PIH/documents/ListeningForumsPublicSummary012320.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">listening sessions\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> with property owners across the country back in 2018. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Most of the sessions were taken up by complaints. Eighty-two\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> percent said they had bad experiences dealing with their local housing authority. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One of their biggest issues: how long it takes to sign up a new tenant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The whole process can take a month or two — time spent without collecting rent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For a landlord to just sit and wait for that tenant is not, is not reasonable, especially if it’s an individual like a mom-and-pop type of shop.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So how do we improve Section 8? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For tenants to have more choice — you know, the original goal of the program — you need more landlords with properties in more neighborhoods. Here’s Eva Rosen: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When we think about landlord participation, I think we need to think about carrots and sticks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That means tougher laws to prevent landlords from discriminating against Section 8 tenants. And better enforcement. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s sort of like a stick, right? It’s a slap on the wrist. It’s a no, you’re not allowed to do this.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And, then there’s the carrot: more voucher money for properties in wealthier neighborhoods. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s something the federal government is already trying. They’re basing the rent on the ZIP code, instead of one standard for the whole city.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EVA\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because there’s no way a landlord is going to participate in the program if they’re getting less rent than they would get from a market tenant, right?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">An early test of the program \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/sites/default/files/pdf/SAFMR-Interim-Report.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">showed it worked\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. More landlords in affluent areas opened their doors to Section 8.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But in a few cities, there was a downside, too. Some landlords in low-income neighborhoods stopped renting to voucher holders. That led to a drop in the number of homes available there. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Still, the results were still promising enough that they’ve expanded it to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cbpp.org/research/housing/a-guide-to-small-area-fair-market-rents-safmrs\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">two dozen cities\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> across the country.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11908157\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11908157\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/IMG_9801-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eugene Zinchik poses inside a property he manages in San Francisco’s Bayview neighborhood. \u003ccite>(Erin Baldassari/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Another way to recruit more landlords? Cut the red tape. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>EUGENE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Give those individuals that have the voucher more say of what they’re able to do. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Give the power to that individual to sign on their own behalf to take the place or not take the place.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After all, Section 8 was supposed to be about choice. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, Eugene says, let people make their own. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Coming up: A different solution that \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">is \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">all about choice. And cold, hard cash. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When the coronavirus hit — and the economy shut down — one thing was clear: People needed cash. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the federal government stepped in. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzMNV2qH2IA\">\u003cb>WCNC\u003c/b>\u003c/a>\u003c/em>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stimulus checks are rolling in for millions of Americans today. About 80 million people are expected to receive their payments today.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhyfKmBfRi8\">\u003cem>\u003cb>NBC\u003c/b>\u003c/em>\u003c/a>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, these direct payments are what everyone is talking about because 90% of American households should be getting some money. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Before the pandemic, the idea of giving out free money in this country was kind of a hard sell. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/nataliefoster?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\">Natalie Foster\u003c/a> is the president and co-founder of the Economic Security Project. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>NATALIE FOSTER\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Then the pandemic hit and it became clear that cash was the currency of urgency.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it wasn’t just stimulus checks. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>NATALIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pandemic unemployment insurance was important for supporting people in the midst of job loss, expanding tax credits like the earned income tax credit and the child tax credit. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These were all things that the government did.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For a lot of families, that extra money was a lifeline. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Despite a recession and a global pandemic, poverty in this country actually \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">decreased\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>NATALIE\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We saw a decrease in poverty, and that is because the government realized that poverty is a policy choice and we could make different choices. And so the politics of the moment allowed for us to make a different choice.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We also made a choice to keep more people housed, with eviction moratoriums and rent relief. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For progressives and others, those pandemic-era programs were a golden opportunity t\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">o tackle poverty and housing insecurity on a grand scale. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And test an idea that’s been gaining steam over the past couple years. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cb>NEWS CLIPS\u003c/b>\u003c/em>: It’s an idea known as guaranteed basic income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A monthly, no-strings-attached cash payment given directly to individuals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A guaranteed income. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Basically, if you want to solve poverty, give people money. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s how it would work: The money would come from the federal government, ideally in the form of a regular, monthly payment.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The amount wouldn’t make you rich, but it could help pay for your housing, your food or whatever else you need. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: F\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">or all the excitement around guaranteed income today, it’s not actually a new idea. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thomas Paine argued for it way back in the 18th century. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And over the years, its supporters have come from all over the political spectrum.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">From the Black Panthers, to President Richard Nixon. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cb>RECORDING OF PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON DISCUSSING GUARANTEED INCOME\u003c/b>\u003c/em>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What I am proposing is that the federal government build a foundation under the income of every American family with dependent children that cannot care for itself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">From libertarian economist Milton Friedman to civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It seems to me that the civil rights movement must now begin to organize for the guaranteed annual income, begin to organize people all over our country and mobilize forces, so that we can bring to the attention of our nation, this need and this something which I believe will go a long, long way toward dealing with the Negros’ economic problem and the economic problem with many other poor people confronting our nation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Alaska’s been doing this \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://pfd.alaska.gov/Division-Info/historical-timeline\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">since the 1980s\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, paying out oil dividends to all its residents — on average, about $1,600 a year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But more recently, about 90 guaranteed-income experiments have popped up across the country. Most were inspired by one city: Stockton, California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL TUBBS\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hello, my name is \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/MichaelDTubbs?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\">Michael Tubbs\u003c/a>. I am the former mayor of the city of Stockton, California. I’m the founder of \u003ca href=\"https://www.mayorsforagi.org/\">Mayors for a Guaranteed Income\u003c/a> and of \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2022/02/former-stockton-mayor-launches-nonprofit-to-end-poverty-in-california/\">End Poverty in California.\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Michael led Stockton’s guaranteed-income program back in 2019. He says a lot of the issues that came across his desk all came back to the same thing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Issues of poverty and lack and pervasive poverty and generational poverty.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stockton was the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/business/2008/jul/28/subprimecrisis.useconomy\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">foreclosure capital\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> of the country during the Great Recession. It \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/article/us-stockton-bankruptcy/stockton-california-files-for-bankruptcy-idUSBRE85S05120120629\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">declared bankruptcy\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in 2012. And today, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/about-seed\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">about a quarter\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> of its population lives below the poverty line. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Michael wanted to bring a guaranteed income to Stockton because the old way of addressing poverty wasn’t working. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The programs we have now — like welfare or food stamps or housing vouchers — they have a lot of rules and regulations. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11882364\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11882364\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-800x533.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-1020x680.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut-1536x1024.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS46086_GettyImages-1208192668-qut.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Tubbs, former mayor of Stockton, is seen at his office in Stockton on Feb. 7, 2020. As mayor, with the help of the Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration, he implemented an 18-month trial of universal basic income for 125 residents of his city. The concept has recently been gaining ground. \u003ccite>(Nick Otto/AFP via Getty Images))\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When you’re on welfare, you have to spend so much time being with case managers, filling out forms, doing this, doing that, which robs you of the ability to do all the other things you need to do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Guaranteed-income programs don’t require all that micromanagement, which frees up people’s time. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, they have another benefit: You can spend the money however you need. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Whether it’s on new tires, a transmission, a new washer and dryer, school clothes, a wedding, going to visit your parents you haven’t seen in a while.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When people in Stockton were given the choice of how to use the $500 they got each month, they tended to spend it on food and other essentials.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some also used it to help pay for housing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They were able to sort of save up for a down payment to move to safer living conditions. Or some people use it to cope with sort of small rises in rent that occur: $50 here or $100 here, $125 here. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Researchers in Stockton didn’t look specifically at the impact of a guaranteed income on evictions. But the small stipend could help. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/12/upshot/eviction-prevention-solutions-government.html\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Most people get evicted for $600 or less\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, according to a New York Times analysis. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just knowing you have enough money to get to the end of the month also goes a long way for your mental health.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Folks who received the guaranteed income went from elevated levels of stress to regular levels of stress. And that just was like, wow, like money really sort of affects health and mental health and well-being and how we show up in the world. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music out)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But probably one of the biggest findings from Stockton: \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It challenged a widely held criticism of guaranteed income, that it would cause people to stop working. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The money actually had the opposite effect. \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/employment\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People worked \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">more.\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">About \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/employment\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">12% went from part-time to full-time work\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. That’s more than double the control group. And participants were less likely to be unemployed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I wasn’t surprised, but I’m glad the data validated this belief that that $500 was not going to make anyone stop working, that people still worked.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Michael says that’s because it wasn’t enough to live on. But it gave people some breathing room. It allowed them to quit one of their part-time jobs and look for full-time work.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Or go back to school to change careers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It allowed people the chance to live. And live a life, and live a life beyond just going through the motions and working and going to sleep and working, going to sleep. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Still, critics say you shouldn’t draw too many conclusions from one small pilot program — with only 125 participants. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rolling out a guaranteed income nationally could have a much bigger impact on the economy. And many worry that all that extra cash would only cause prices to rise, setting off higher inflation. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guaranteed income also does nothing to solve a larger problem. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The thing we \u003ca href=\"https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cesan.nr0.htm#:~:text=%2D%2DHousing%20expenditures%20increased%203.5,dwellings%20were%20down%200.5%20percent.\">spend the most money on is housing\u003c/a>. And that just keeps going up. Taking a \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/10/home-prices-are-now-rising-much-faster-than-incomes-studies-show.html\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">bigger and bigger piece\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> out of our paychecks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MICHAEL\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guaranteed income is great, but we don’t want all that money to be spent on housing because people have other needs, right? So I think a guaranteed income is a powerful tool. But like any toolbox, you need more than one tool to really get the job done. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Music in)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Guaranteed income can’t solve poverty on its own. But Michael says it’s a good place to start if we want to solve other big problems, like evictions. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Evictions perpetuate inequality, a\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">nd they push more people into poverty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When you’re evicted, you lose your neighborhood, your school, your support network. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You can be trapped in a cycle of debt, even become homeless. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But the solutions are within our reach, and people are already pushing for them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Activists in Fresno are fighting for a fair shot in court. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Tenants in Antioch are demanding more protection against rising rents. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And women like \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11905386/why-black-women-are-more-likely-to-face-eviction\">Jean [Kendrick, from Episode 2]\u003c/a> are sharing their stories and calling attention to inequities we can’t unsee. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Evictions reflect our housing system: who reaps the profit and who suffers the pain.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But we have an opportunity to make the system more fair, to invest in people’s success, not just for a few, but for all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The question is, will we take it? \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Erin Baldassari.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>: \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’m Molly Solomon. Thank you so much for listening to Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you like what you hear, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — and share it with a friend!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We’ve got one more thing that we’re working on. It’s a bonus episode full of stories from you. That’ll drop in a few weeks, so stay tuned. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sold Out is a production of KQED. This episode was written and reported by us: Molly Solomon and Erin Baldassari.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>MOLLY\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Adhiti Bandlamudi produced this episode. Kyana Moghadam is our senior producer. Brendan Willard is our sound engineer. And Rob Speight wrote our theme song.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Natalia Aldana is our senior engagement producer and Gerald Fermin is our engagement intern.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>ERIN\u003c/b>:\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Thank you to our editor, Erika Kelly. 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[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Eric Garcetti, Los Angeles mayor\"]'The pandemic showed us what is possible ... We’re now going to be a pretty potent lobby to get the child tax credit permanent.’[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In experiments across the country, dozens of cities and counties — some using money from the \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-technology-legislation-coronavirus-pandemic-bills-6bb8d109e9c4034592a898515f91ef27\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">$1.9 trillion COVID relief package\u003c/a> approved in March — and the state of California are giving some low-income residents a guaranteed income of $500 to $1,000 each month to do with as they please, and tracking what happens. A coalition known as Mayors for a Guaranteed Income plans to use the data — collected alongside a University of Pennsylvania-based research center — to lobby the White House and Congress for a federal guaranteed income or, for starters, to make the new \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/child-tax-credit-bank-accounts-0715-24023ed3ffba98e4a65dd6006518da7a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">$300 per month child tax credit\u003c/a> that’s set to expire after this year permanent. [aside postID=news_11881271]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The surge in interest in these pilot programs shows how quickly the concept of handing out cash, no strings attached, has shifted from far-fetched idea to serious policy proposal, even as critics blast the programs as unaffordable or discouraging people from going to work. Supporters say it’s all due to COVID-19, which cost millions of people their jobs and prompted the federal government under both Presidents Donald Trump and Joe Biden to cut checks to rescue the economy — relief that was hugely popular politically.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The pandemic showed us what is possible,” said Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, whose latest budget included a $24 million guaranteed income program to give 2,000 poor families $1,000 per month. “We’re now going to be a pretty potent lobby to get the child tax credit permanent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The American Rescue Plan, which Biden signed in March, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/how-child-tax-credits-work-fa15590a2c60fc665ddc59ced78dacfe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">increased the child tax credit\u003c/a> for one year to $3,600 annually for children under 6 and $3,000 for ages 6 to 17, with the first six months of the credit advanced via monthly payments that started this month. Last year the credit was $2,000 per child, and only families that owed income taxes to the government could receive it. That excluded low-income families and those who generally have no income to report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Biden is pushing to extend the credit through 2025 and ultimately make it permanent. Republicans argue doing so would create a disincentive for people to work, and lead to more poverty — an argument similar to what critics say about the guaranteed income programs. No Republicans voted in favor of the American Rescue Plan, which they said was too expensive and not focused specifically enough on COVID-19′s health and economic crises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs, who started Mayors for a Guaranteed Income in June 2020, launched a guaranteed income program using private funds in 2019. An \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/stockton-health-coronavirus-pandemic-michael-tubbs-philanthropy-1227f2ab4a1bb7677a01b887ba91554f\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">independent study found\u003c/a> full-time employment for participants grew in the first year of the program more quickly than it did for those not receiving cash, a finding Tubbs argues contradicts conservative arguments against them. Some recipients were able to complete classes or training and get full-time jobs that provided more economic stability than cobbling together gig employment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mayors for a Guaranteed Income started with 11 founding mayors and now has more than 50. Two dozen pilot programs have been approved, from Los Angeles County — the most populous county in the U.S. — to a county in upstate New York and the cities of Wausau, Wisconsin, and Gainesville, Florida.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last week, California lawmakers approved a state-funded guaranteed income plan with a unanimous vote that showed bipartisan support. It will provide monthly payments to qualifying pregnant people and young adults who recently left foster care. [aside postID=news_11820737,news_11863446]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some pilot programs have been funded privately — Twitter founder Jack Dorsey has donated over $15 million to MGI. Other places, like Minneapolis, are using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matt Zwolinski, director of the Center for Ethics, Economics and Public Policy at the University of San Diego, has studied guaranteed income policy for over a decade and says the increased interest is remarkable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he says there’s a flaw in using the pilot projects as a “proof of concept.” Most are for one to two years and give money to a narrow slice of the population that knows the cash will eventually stop, so participants may be more likely to seek full-time employment during that period than if they knew the cash was permanent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zwolinski also questions whether people in the U.S. are willing to support a national program that gives money to people who could work but aren’t doing so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That really rubs a lot of people the wrong way,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even in the smaller pilots there have been hiccups. In many cases, waivers are needed to ensure the new income doesn’t make recipients ineligible for other benefits they receive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wausau, Wisconsin, Mayor Katie Rosenberg said that snag has delayed the city’s program from getting up and running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t want to hurt people,” Rosenberg said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gary, Indiana, started its pilot program in April, providing $500 per month to 125 households for one year. Burgess Peoples, the pilot’s executive director, said recipients receive “wraparound services,” including help with finding jobs. Already it’s making a difference, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two women used their first checks to pay what they owed for college tuition, allowing them to keep working toward their degrees. One man got his car repaired so he could get to work without paying for a Lyft ride.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Peoples hopes more local experiments will pressure the federal government to change the way it assists poor people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That way they can get help the way they need it,” she said, “not just the way the government thinks it should be.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In experiments across the country, dozens of cities, counties and the state of California are giving some low-income residents a guaranteed income of $500 to $1,000 each month to do with as they please, and tracking what happens.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1627320480,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":1097},"headData":{"title":"Mayors Hope Basic Income Tests Bring Big Change | KQED","description":"In experiments across the country, dozens of cities, counties and the state of California are giving some low-income residents a guaranteed income of $500 to $1,000 each month to do with as they please, and tracking what happens.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Mayors Hope Basic Income Tests Bring Big Change","datePublished":"2021-07-24T19:54:45.000Z","dateModified":"2021-07-26T17:28:00.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11882363 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11882363","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/07/24/mayors-hope-basic-income-tests-bring-big-change/","disqusTitle":"Mayors Hope Basic Income Tests Bring Big Change","nprByline":"Sara Burnett \u003cbr>The Associated Press","path":"/news/11882363/mayors-hope-basic-income-tests-bring-big-change","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>By triggering $1,400 stimulus checks for millions of people and expanding the child tax credit for many families, the pandemic offered a clear takeaway for some officials: That putting tax dollars in people’s pockets is achievable and can be a lifeline to those struggling to get by.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now a growing number of mayors and other leaders say they want to determine for sure whether programs like these are the best way to reduce poverty, lessen inequality and get people working. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'The pandemic showed us what is possible ... We’re now going to be a pretty potent lobby to get the child tax credit permanent.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Eric Garcetti, Los Angeles mayor","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In experiments across the country, dozens of cities and counties — some using money from the \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-technology-legislation-coronavirus-pandemic-bills-6bb8d109e9c4034592a898515f91ef27\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">$1.9 trillion COVID relief package\u003c/a> approved in March — and the state of California are giving some low-income residents a guaranteed income of $500 to $1,000 each month to do with as they please, and tracking what happens. A coalition known as Mayors for a Guaranteed Income plans to use the data — collected alongside a University of Pennsylvania-based research center — to lobby the White House and Congress for a federal guaranteed income or, for starters, to make the new \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/child-tax-credit-bank-accounts-0715-24023ed3ffba98e4a65dd6006518da7a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">$300 per month child tax credit\u003c/a> that’s set to expire after this year permanent. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11881271","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The surge in interest in these pilot programs shows how quickly the concept of handing out cash, no strings attached, has shifted from far-fetched idea to serious policy proposal, even as critics blast the programs as unaffordable or discouraging people from going to work. Supporters say it’s all due to COVID-19, which cost millions of people their jobs and prompted the federal government under both Presidents Donald Trump and Joe Biden to cut checks to rescue the economy — relief that was hugely popular politically.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The pandemic showed us what is possible,” said Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, whose latest budget included a $24 million guaranteed income program to give 2,000 poor families $1,000 per month. “We’re now going to be a pretty potent lobby to get the child tax credit permanent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The American Rescue Plan, which Biden signed in March, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/how-child-tax-credits-work-fa15590a2c60fc665ddc59ced78dacfe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">increased the child tax credit\u003c/a> for one year to $3,600 annually for children under 6 and $3,000 for ages 6 to 17, with the first six months of the credit advanced via monthly payments that started this month. Last year the credit was $2,000 per child, and only families that owed income taxes to the government could receive it. That excluded low-income families and those who generally have no income to report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Biden is pushing to extend the credit through 2025 and ultimately make it permanent. Republicans argue doing so would create a disincentive for people to work, and lead to more poverty — an argument similar to what critics say about the guaranteed income programs. No Republicans voted in favor of the American Rescue Plan, which they said was too expensive and not focused specifically enough on COVID-19′s health and economic crises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs, who started Mayors for a Guaranteed Income in June 2020, launched a guaranteed income program using private funds in 2019. An \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/stockton-health-coronavirus-pandemic-michael-tubbs-philanthropy-1227f2ab4a1bb7677a01b887ba91554f\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">independent study found\u003c/a> full-time employment for participants grew in the first year of the program more quickly than it did for those not receiving cash, a finding Tubbs argues contradicts conservative arguments against them. Some recipients were able to complete classes or training and get full-time jobs that provided more economic stability than cobbling together gig employment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mayors for a Guaranteed Income started with 11 founding mayors and now has more than 50. Two dozen pilot programs have been approved, from Los Angeles County — the most populous county in the U.S. — to a county in upstate New York and the cities of Wausau, Wisconsin, and Gainesville, Florida.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last week, California lawmakers approved a state-funded guaranteed income plan with a unanimous vote that showed bipartisan support. It will provide monthly payments to qualifying pregnant people and young adults who recently left foster care. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11820737,news_11863446","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some pilot programs have been funded privately — Twitter founder Jack Dorsey has donated over $15 million to MGI. Other places, like Minneapolis, are using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matt Zwolinski, director of the Center for Ethics, Economics and Public Policy at the University of San Diego, has studied guaranteed income policy for over a decade and says the increased interest is remarkable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he says there’s a flaw in using the pilot projects as a “proof of concept.” Most are for one to two years and give money to a narrow slice of the population that knows the cash will eventually stop, so participants may be more likely to seek full-time employment during that period than if they knew the cash was permanent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zwolinski also questions whether people in the U.S. are willing to support a national program that gives money to people who could work but aren’t doing so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That really rubs a lot of people the wrong way,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even in the smaller pilots there have been hiccups. In many cases, waivers are needed to ensure the new income doesn’t make recipients ineligible for other benefits they receive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wausau, Wisconsin, Mayor Katie Rosenberg said that snag has delayed the city’s program from getting up and running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t want to hurt people,” Rosenberg said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gary, Indiana, started its pilot program in April, providing $500 per month to 125 households for one year. Burgess Peoples, the pilot’s executive director, said recipients receive “wraparound services,” including help with finding jobs. Already it’s making a difference, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two women used their first checks to pay what they owed for college tuition, allowing them to keep working toward their degrees. One man got his car repaired so he could get to work without paying for a Lyft ride.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Peoples hopes more local experiments will pressure the federal government to change the way it assists poor people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That way they can get help the way they need it,” she said, “not just the way the government thinks it should be.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11882363/mayors-hope-basic-income-tests-bring-big-change","authors":["byline_news_11882363"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_29292","news_27626","news_29705","news_20903","news_784","news_29704","news_22418","news_19961"],"featImg":"news_11882364","label":"news"},"news_11877187":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11877187","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11877187","score":null,"sort":[1623186366000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"how-to-apply-for-oaklands-universal-basic-income-pilot-program","title":"How to Apply for Oakland's Guaranteed Basic Income Pilot Program","publishDate":1623186366,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Applications opened Tuesday for East Oakland residents to apply to receive $500 a month for 18 months as part of Oakland’s new guaranteed income program. It is the latest experiment in a nationwide movement to aid low-income families by providing direct cash payments with no strings attached.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Three hundred residents will be selected for the Oakland Resilient Families program \u003ca href=\"https://data.oaklandca.gov/stories/s/Financial-Health/2z9b-x57f\">which prioritizes Black, Indigenous and people of color who are making less than $60,650 annually for a family of three\u003c/a>. The program will expand to 300 more families citywide this summer in other parts of Oakland and is open to undocumented residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Applicants will need to upload a file that demonstrates proof of residence, like a driver's license or other state ID, during the application process. Bills or paycheck stubs can also substitute for IDs. Applicants will also need to share information about annual household income to determine if they're eligible for the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://fund.uptogether.org/eastoakland\">Visit the Oakland Resilient Families website to apply.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Poverty is not a personal failure, it is a policy failure,” Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said at a press conference. “And the policy of guaranteed income is one that is designed to lift up the dignity of individuals and chart their own path to self-sufficiency.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A key premise of the basic income experiments is to let residents use the payments however they see fit, bucking the post-welfare reform trend of placing requirements or restrictions around government aid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11867881/oakland-guaranteed-income-program-now-says-its-not-exclusively-for-people-of-color\">The city initially asked exclusively for applicants of color\u003c/a>, however, its website now states all residents who meet the program's criteria are welcome to apply, regardless of race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>District 6 City Councilmember Loren Taylor, whose district serves East Oakland, said the city will start outreach on Saturday into the one-block radius of East Oakland initially being targeted by the demonstration project, in partnership with 200 nonprofit organizations that are helping to get the word out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Taylor said some 9,000 people have already subscribed to the email list to be notified when applications become available.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>”We've got a lot of work ahead of ourselves over the next 22 days as we get as many of the eligible families as possible to complete the applications for phase one,” Taylor said. “Our focused outreach is to focus on the roughly one square mile between Havenscourt to 94th Avenue and between International and MacArthur Boulevard.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The program is one of several guaranteed income programs throughout the Bay Area. Santa Clara began one a year ago, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11866002/following-stocktons-lead-guaranteed-income-programs-to-launch-in-oakland-and-marin-county\">Marin began one last month\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2021/bay-area-guaranteed-income-programs/\">Others in San Francisco are also underway\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Stockton, which completed \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973653719/california-program-giving-500-no-strings-attached-stipends-pays-off-study-finds\">its program\u003c/a> in February of last year, \u003ca href=\"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6039d612b17d055cac14070f/t/603ef1194c474b329f33c329/1614737690661/SEED_Preliminary+Analysis-SEEDs+First+Year_Final+Report_Individual+Pages+-2.pdf\">initial results\u003c/a> showed that families who got the stipends were more likely to get jobs, be able to afford child care, and the cash helped them cover unexpected expenses with most of it being spent on basic necessities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland's program doesn't quite meet the threshold of a true \"universal\" basic income program, the program's operators said. UBI, as opposed to guaranteed income, is meant to go to everyone and provide enough of a payment to cover \u003cem>all\u003c/em> basic needs. By contrast, a \u003cem>guaranteed\u003c/em> income is meant to provide an income floor but not meant to be a replacement for wages, and can also be targeted to those who most need it, according to Oakland's guaranteed basic income website.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Treva Reid, District 7 councilmember also serving East Oakland, said the Oakland neighborhood is disproportionately impacted by economic inequities, and that the weight of “multiple pandemics and systemic challenges” has only further harmed many of the residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For many of our low-income residents in East Oakland, an additional $500 means having much-needed money to maintain their housing, to pay their rent, to pay for child care, to secure resources that not only will help economically support their families,\" Reid said, adding that the program could help stabilize these families to prevent them from being pushed out of Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Guy Marzorati contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The program will prioritize East Oakland residents and initially be open to only 300 people, but will expand to 300 more families citywide this summer in other parts of Oakland, and is open to undocumented residents.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1623193767,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":688},"headData":{"title":"How to Apply for Oakland's Guaranteed Basic Income Pilot Program | KQED","description":"The program will prioritize East Oakland residents and initially be open to only 300 people, but will expand to 300 more families citywide this summer in other parts of Oakland, and is open to undocumented residents.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"How to Apply for Oakland's Guaranteed Basic Income Pilot Program","datePublished":"2021-06-08T21:06:06.000Z","dateModified":"2021-06-08T23:09:27.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11877187 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11877187","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/06/08/how-to-apply-for-oaklands-universal-basic-income-pilot-program/","disqusTitle":"How to Apply for Oakland's Guaranteed Basic Income Pilot Program","path":"/news/11877187/how-to-apply-for-oaklands-universal-basic-income-pilot-program","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Applications opened Tuesday for East Oakland residents to apply to receive $500 a month for 18 months as part of Oakland’s new guaranteed income program. It is the latest experiment in a nationwide movement to aid low-income families by providing direct cash payments with no strings attached.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Three hundred residents will be selected for the Oakland Resilient Families program \u003ca href=\"https://data.oaklandca.gov/stories/s/Financial-Health/2z9b-x57f\">which prioritizes Black, Indigenous and people of color who are making less than $60,650 annually for a family of three\u003c/a>. The program will expand to 300 more families citywide this summer in other parts of Oakland and is open to undocumented residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Applicants will need to upload a file that demonstrates proof of residence, like a driver's license or other state ID, during the application process. Bills or paycheck stubs can also substitute for IDs. Applicants will also need to share information about annual household income to determine if they're eligible for the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://fund.uptogether.org/eastoakland\">Visit the Oakland Resilient Families website to apply.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Poverty is not a personal failure, it is a policy failure,” Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said at a press conference. “And the policy of guaranteed income is one that is designed to lift up the dignity of individuals and chart their own path to self-sufficiency.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A key premise of the basic income experiments is to let residents use the payments however they see fit, bucking the post-welfare reform trend of placing requirements or restrictions around government aid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11867881/oakland-guaranteed-income-program-now-says-its-not-exclusively-for-people-of-color\">The city initially asked exclusively for applicants of color\u003c/a>, however, its website now states all residents who meet the program's criteria are welcome to apply, regardless of race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>District 6 City Councilmember Loren Taylor, whose district serves East Oakland, said the city will start outreach on Saturday into the one-block radius of East Oakland initially being targeted by the demonstration project, in partnership with 200 nonprofit organizations that are helping to get the word out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Taylor said some 9,000 people have already subscribed to the email list to be notified when applications become available.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>”We've got a lot of work ahead of ourselves over the next 22 days as we get as many of the eligible families as possible to complete the applications for phase one,” Taylor said. “Our focused outreach is to focus on the roughly one square mile between Havenscourt to 94th Avenue and between International and MacArthur Boulevard.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The program is one of several guaranteed income programs throughout the Bay Area. Santa Clara began one a year ago, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11866002/following-stocktons-lead-guaranteed-income-programs-to-launch-in-oakland-and-marin-county\">Marin began one last month\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2021/bay-area-guaranteed-income-programs/\">Others in San Francisco are also underway\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Stockton, which completed \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973653719/california-program-giving-500-no-strings-attached-stipends-pays-off-study-finds\">its program\u003c/a> in February of last year, \u003ca href=\"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6039d612b17d055cac14070f/t/603ef1194c474b329f33c329/1614737690661/SEED_Preliminary+Analysis-SEEDs+First+Year_Final+Report_Individual+Pages+-2.pdf\">initial results\u003c/a> showed that families who got the stipends were more likely to get jobs, be able to afford child care, and the cash helped them cover unexpected expenses with most of it being spent on basic necessities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland's program doesn't quite meet the threshold of a true \"universal\" basic income program, the program's operators said. UBI, as opposed to guaranteed income, is meant to go to everyone and provide enough of a payment to cover \u003cem>all\u003c/em> basic needs. By contrast, a \u003cem>guaranteed\u003c/em> income is meant to provide an income floor but not meant to be a replacement for wages, and can also be targeted to those who most need it, according to Oakland's guaranteed basic income website.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Treva Reid, District 7 councilmember also serving East Oakland, said the Oakland neighborhood is disproportionately impacted by economic inequities, and that the weight of “multiple pandemics and systemic challenges” has only further harmed many of the residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For many of our low-income residents in East Oakland, an additional $500 means having much-needed money to maintain their housing, to pay their rent, to pay for child care, to secure resources that not only will help economically support their families,\" Reid said, adding that the program could help stabilize these families to prevent them from being pushed out of Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Guy Marzorati contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11877187/how-to-apply-for-oaklands-universal-basic-income-pilot-program","authors":["231"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_29559","news_6905","news_18","news_29560","news_19961"],"featImg":"news_11867959","label":"news"},"news_11867881":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11867881","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11867881","score":null,"sort":[1617418463000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"oakland-guaranteed-income-program-now-says-its-not-exclusively-for-people-of-color","title":"Oakland Guaranteed Income Program Now Says It's Not Exclusively for People of Color","publishDate":1617418463,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>After initially asking exclusively for applicants of color, organizers of a pilot program to provide a guaranteed income to hundreds of low-income Oaklanders now say all residents who meet the program's criteria are welcome to apply, regardless of race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandresilientfamilies.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Oakland Resilient Families\u003c/a> program was announced last week as the latest experiment in a nationwide movement to aid low-income families by providing direct cash payments with no strings attached.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We will enroll 600 BIPOC [Black, Indigenous, and People of Color] families in Oakland living with low-income,” said Jesús Gerena, CEO of the Family Independence Initiative, one of the nonprofit organizations running the program, at a press conference announcing the initiative. \"And [they] will receive $500 a month for 18 months.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But now, a frequently asked questions section on the program's website has been altered to omit references to BIPOC.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the question \"Who is this for?\", the original language read \"Black, Indigenous, and People of Color (BIPOC) families ... with low income and at least 1 child under 18... .\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The updated version says the program is \"targeted to support families with the greatest wealth disparities,\" with no mention of BIPOC, but the other requirements remaining the same.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11867931\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-800x331.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-800x331.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-1020x421.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-160x66.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-1536x635.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1.jpg 1859w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A different section previously stated, “Any low-income BIPOC family in Oakland is eligible to apply to be randomly selected.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, “BIPOC” has been removed from that sentence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11867933\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-800x331.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-800x331.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-1020x421.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-160x66.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-1536x635.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2.jpg 1859w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When questioned about the changes, Rae Oglesby, vice president of membership and communications at the Family Independence Initiative, said in an email that, “The program is targeting racial groups experiencing the largest disparities. That said, it is open to all residents. We just clarified the language.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the program website, applicants will be randomly selected \"with an intentional focus on groups with the greatest wealth disparities per the Oakland Equity Index.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The families will still be selected from two geographic pools of applicants: one pool from East Oakland, the other including residents from other parts of the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Half of the participants will be low-income, as defined by families earning below 50% of area median income. The other half will be \"very-low income families\" earning below 138% of the federal poverty level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have not changed the program,\" said Justin Berton, communications director for Mayor Libby Schaaf. \"We have had to clarify that while no family is prohibited from applying, this pilot is intentionally designed to serve and support BIPOC families, who evidence shows suffer the greatest and most disproportionate impacts of poverty.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The explicit focus on families of color had been hailed by supporters of the idea that unrestricted cash payments are a crucial tool to lift families out of poverty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"guaranteed-income\"]Unlike other guaranteed income programs, however, organizers in Oakland asked specifically for residents of color to take part.\u003cbr>\n“I especially appreciate the explicit focus on racial justice,” said former Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs, the founder of Mayors for a Guaranteed Income, last week. \"Because we understand that civil rights has always been about protection — not just from police brutality, but also from the brutality of poverty.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city's Equity Indicators \u003ca href=\"https://data.oaklandca.gov/stories/s/brb2-j4ad\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">highlight the disparities\u003c/a> between white and BIPOC residents of Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, in 2018, white Oaklanders had the highest levels of household income among any racial and ethnic group, and the lowest percentage of residents (8.4%) living below the poverty line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the explicit pitch to residents of color rankled some critics. Fox News host Tucker Carlson labeled the idea \"racist craziness\" in a broadcast this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He and others have inaccurately described the initiative as a government program, which could presumably open it to equal protection challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In reality, the program is not paid for with taxpayer dollars — instead, funding comes chiefly from Blue Meridian Partners, a philanthropic nonprofit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf was among the public officials who appeared at the launch event, specifically encouraging \"low-income BIPOC families to apply for the chance to be selected.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The program is modeled on a guaranteed income experiment in Stockton, California, which provided funds to low-income residents for two years. Independent researchers found that the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11863446/like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">participants ended up with\u003c/a> improved financial, physical and mental health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs, the city's former mayor, has launched a nationwide coalition to expand the pilots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recently, Marin County signed on to a guaranteed income program, in which the county will fund services like job training for low-income BIPOC mothers who are receiving direct cash payments from a nonprofit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pilot programs, small in scale, are designed to build momentum toward larger adoption of guaranteed income policies. In Oakland, a city with nearly 70,000 residents living in poverty, the program targets aid to a few hundred households.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland Resilient Families is set to launch later this spring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Jon Brooks contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"After initially asking exclusively for applicants of color, organizers of a pilot program to provide a guaranteed income to low-income Oaklanders now say that all residents who meet the program's criteria are welcome to apply, regardless of race.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1623179068,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":31,"wordCount":822},"headData":{"title":"Oakland Guaranteed Income Program Now Says It's Not Exclusively for People of Color | KQED","description":"After initially asking exclusively for applicants of color, organizers of a pilot program to provide a guaranteed income to low-income Oaklanders now say that all residents who meet the program's criteria are welcome to apply, regardless of race.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Oakland Guaranteed Income Program Now Says It's Not Exclusively for People of Color","datePublished":"2021-04-03T02:54:23.000Z","dateModified":"2021-06-08T19:04:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11867881 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11867881","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/04/02/oakland-guaranteed-income-program-now-says-its-not-exclusively-for-people-of-color/","disqusTitle":"Oakland Guaranteed Income Program Now Says It's Not Exclusively for People of Color","path":"/news/11867881/oakland-guaranteed-income-program-now-says-its-not-exclusively-for-people-of-color","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>After initially asking exclusively for applicants of color, organizers of a pilot program to provide a guaranteed income to hundreds of low-income Oaklanders now say all residents who meet the program's criteria are welcome to apply, regardless of race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandresilientfamilies.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Oakland Resilient Families\u003c/a> program was announced last week as the latest experiment in a nationwide movement to aid low-income families by providing direct cash payments with no strings attached.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We will enroll 600 BIPOC [Black, Indigenous, and People of Color] families in Oakland living with low-income,” said Jesús Gerena, CEO of the Family Independence Initiative, one of the nonprofit organizations running the program, at a press conference announcing the initiative. \"And [they] will receive $500 a month for 18 months.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But now, a frequently asked questions section on the program's website has been altered to omit references to BIPOC.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the question \"Who is this for?\", the original language read \"Black, Indigenous, and People of Color (BIPOC) families ... with low income and at least 1 child under 18... .\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The updated version says the program is \"targeted to support families with the greatest wealth disparities,\" with no mention of BIPOC, but the other requirements remaining the same.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11867931\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-800x331.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-800x331.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-1020x421.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-160x66.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1-1536x635.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OakandFamilies1.jpg 1859w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A different section previously stated, “Any low-income BIPOC family in Oakland is eligible to apply to be randomly selected.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, “BIPOC” has been removed from that sentence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11867933\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-800x331.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-800x331.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-1020x421.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-160x66.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2-1536x635.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/04/OaklandFamilies2.jpg 1859w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When questioned about the changes, Rae Oglesby, vice president of membership and communications at the Family Independence Initiative, said in an email that, “The program is targeting racial groups experiencing the largest disparities. That said, it is open to all residents. We just clarified the language.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the program website, applicants will be randomly selected \"with an intentional focus on groups with the greatest wealth disparities per the Oakland Equity Index.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The families will still be selected from two geographic pools of applicants: one pool from East Oakland, the other including residents from other parts of the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Half of the participants will be low-income, as defined by families earning below 50% of area median income. The other half will be \"very-low income families\" earning below 138% of the federal poverty level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have not changed the program,\" said Justin Berton, communications director for Mayor Libby Schaaf. \"We have had to clarify that while no family is prohibited from applying, this pilot is intentionally designed to serve and support BIPOC families, who evidence shows suffer the greatest and most disproportionate impacts of poverty.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The explicit focus on families of color had been hailed by supporters of the idea that unrestricted cash payments are a crucial tool to lift families out of poverty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"guaranteed-income"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Unlike other guaranteed income programs, however, organizers in Oakland asked specifically for residents of color to take part.\u003cbr>\n“I especially appreciate the explicit focus on racial justice,” said former Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs, the founder of Mayors for a Guaranteed Income, last week. \"Because we understand that civil rights has always been about protection — not just from police brutality, but also from the brutality of poverty.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city's Equity Indicators \u003ca href=\"https://data.oaklandca.gov/stories/s/brb2-j4ad\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">highlight the disparities\u003c/a> between white and BIPOC residents of Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, in 2018, white Oaklanders had the highest levels of household income among any racial and ethnic group, and the lowest percentage of residents (8.4%) living below the poverty line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the explicit pitch to residents of color rankled some critics. Fox News host Tucker Carlson labeled the idea \"racist craziness\" in a broadcast this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He and others have inaccurately described the initiative as a government program, which could presumably open it to equal protection challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In reality, the program is not paid for with taxpayer dollars — instead, funding comes chiefly from Blue Meridian Partners, a philanthropic nonprofit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf was among the public officials who appeared at the launch event, specifically encouraging \"low-income BIPOC families to apply for the chance to be selected.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The program is modeled on a guaranteed income experiment in Stockton, California, which provided funds to low-income residents for two years. Independent researchers found that the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11863446/like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">participants ended up with\u003c/a> improved financial, physical and mental health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs, the city's former mayor, has launched a nationwide coalition to expand the pilots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recently, Marin County signed on to a guaranteed income program, in which the county will fund services like job training for low-income BIPOC mothers who are receiving direct cash payments from a nonprofit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pilot programs, small in scale, are designed to build momentum toward larger adoption of guaranteed income policies. In Oakland, a city with nearly 70,000 residents living in poverty, the program targets aid to a few hundred households.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland Resilient Families is set to launch later this spring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Jon Brooks contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11867881/oakland-guaranteed-income-program-now-says-its-not-exclusively-for-people-of-color","authors":["227"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_28824","news_6905","news_18","news_22418","news_19961"],"featImg":"news_11867959","label":"news"},"news_11866002":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11866002","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11866002","score":null,"sort":[1616551477000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"following-stocktons-lead-guaranteed-income-programs-to-launch-in-oakland-and-marin-county","title":"Following Stockton's Lead, Guaranteed Income Programs to Launch in Oakland and Marin County","publishDate":1616551477,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Oakland and Marin County this Tuesday became the latest jurisdictions in California to launch a guaranteed income program for hundreds of low-income residents, joining a growing progressive movement around the country that views direct cash payments as a crucial strategy in lifting families out of poverty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Building on \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11863446/like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds\">a high-profile guaranteed income experiment\u003c/a> conducted in Stockton, the pilot programs in Marin County and Oakland will be among the first in the nation to send aid exclusively to residents of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our vision is an Oakland that has closed the racial wealth gap, and where all families thrive,\" Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said at a Tuesday morning press conference. \"We believe that guaranteed income is the most transformative policy that can achieve this vision and whose time has come.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A key premise of the basic income experiments is to let residents use the payments however they see fit, bucking the post-welfare reform trend of placing requirements or restrictions around government aid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Boosted by Stockton’s results, our goal is to add to the body of evidence that unrestricted cash to our lowest-income residents – and particularly those who’ve suffered from historical racial inequity – can improve outcomes + change systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Libby Schaaf (@LibbySchaaf) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/LibbySchaaf/status/1374459810205241347?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 23, 2021\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\"Guaranteed income is based on the belief that those in poverty are best able to identify what they need to escape that poverty,\" said Oakland City Councilmember Loren Taylor. \"If someone is tethered to a life of poverty, we can’t untether them by tying them down with more strings.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Oakland Resilient Families program will send $500 a month for 18 months to 600 families that identify as Black, Indigenous or as other people of color, chosen at random from a pool of applicants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Half of the spots will be reserved for families with a household income at or below 50% of the area median income (roughly $65,000 a year for a family of four), with the other half for families earning below 138% of the federal poverty level (about $36,000 annually for a family of four).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additionally, the participants will be split into two groups: one comprised of East Oakland residents and a separate group made up of residents from other parts of the city. Residents interested in applying for the basic income program can visit \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandresilientfamilies.org/faqs\">the website of Oakland Resilient Families\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The program will be funded by donations, chiefly from the nonprofit Blue Meridian Partners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jesús Gerena, CEO of the Family Independence Initiative, an anti-poverty nonprofit, said $6.75 million has been raised so far to begin payments to families this spring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gerena affirmed that this initiative, with its explicit focus on racial disparities in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/income-inequality-in-california/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">region beset by income inequality\u003c/a>, recognizes \"the value of our under-resourced communities and their contributions.\"\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Cash Aid Paired With Social Services\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Hours after the Oakland announcement, the Marin County Board of Supervisors signed off on a guaranteed income program for dozens of low-income mothers of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a 5-0 vote, the board agreed to spend $400,000 on a two-year pilot initiative, in partnership with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.marincf.org/\">Marin Community Foundation\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Monthly payments of $1,000 would be sent to 125 women whose children are younger than 18.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Participants will be chosen at random, but program organizers said they are hoping to source candidates from four underserved areas of the county: Marin City, Novato, the Canal area in San Rafael and West Marin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Jonathan Logan, vice president of community engagement at Marin Community Foundation\"]'Philanthropy is at its best when it's testing out things, providing laboratories, if you will, to come up with great social policy or proof points that ultimately become policy.'[/pullquote]The novel feature of Marin's program is that the cash aid will be paired with optional wrap-around services for eligible mothers: The county's share of the investment will go to services such as job training and placement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The county, along with MCF, is currently ironing out the details on how eligible residents can apply. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are still probably in the tail end of the design phase,\" said Barbara Clifton Zarate, director for economic opportunity at MCF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The opportunity to test out and be part of new social policy is very exciting and it's the right thing for Marin County to do,\" said Supervisor Stephanie Moulton-Peters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As in Oakland, the Marin payments are financed by significant private investment, mitigating any potential spending concerns on the part of local officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Jonathan Logan, vice president of community engagement at MCF said the long-term goal is for the public sector to take an increasing role in funding guaranteed income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Philanthropy is at its best when it's testing out things, providing laboratories, if you will, to come up with great social policy or proof points that ultimately become policy,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>'An Investment Directly to Our People'\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Proposals to funnel basic income payments to residents have been \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11643575/stockton-gets-ready-to-experiment-with-universal-basic-income\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">floated for decades\u003c/a> — including by the \u003ca href=\"https://blackpower.web.unc.edu/2017/04/the-black-panthers-10-point-program/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Black Panther Party\u003c/a> — but this policy idea \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11818088/stockton-mayor-tubbs-how-residents-are-using-guaranteed-income-during-the-pandemic\">gathered momentum\u003c/a> when the city of Stockton took on a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11732253/stocktons-guaranteed-income-experiment-why-mayor-tubbs-is-doing-it\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">two-year experiment\u003c/a> of sending $500 payments to residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11864244\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/03/iStock_daycare_01-1020x680.jpeg\"]Researchers found that recipients in Stockton had \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11863446/like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">increased rates of employment\u003c/a>, along with better physical and emotional health outcomes. And the cash payments seemed to stabilize fluctuations in household incomes from month to month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pilot in Stockton was spearheaded by the city's former mayor, Michael Tubbs, who has founded the advocacy group Mayors for a Guaranteed Income to encourage the policy's adoption across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The promise of a universal basic income was a central plank of Democrat Andrew Yang's run for president in 2020. And the American Rescue Plan Act recently signed into law by President Biden relies on forms of direct aid including $1,400 checks for individuals and a child tax credit for parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs, who joined Mayor Schaaf Tuesday for the announcement, said, \"We truly believe the most important investment we can make as a government is an investment directly to our people.\"\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Lawmakers hope monthly payments, with no strings attached, will help close the region's racial wealth gap. 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","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Following Stockton's Lead, Guaranteed Income Programs to Launch in Oakland and Marin County","datePublished":"2021-03-24T02:04:37.000Z","dateModified":"2021-06-08T19:03:59.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11866002 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11866002","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/03/23/following-stocktons-lead-guaranteed-income-programs-to-launch-in-oakland-and-marin-county/","disqusTitle":"Following Stockton's Lead, Guaranteed Income Programs to Launch in Oakland and Marin County","path":"/news/11866002/following-stocktons-lead-guaranteed-income-programs-to-launch-in-oakland-and-marin-county","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Oakland and Marin County this Tuesday became the latest jurisdictions in California to launch a guaranteed income program for hundreds of low-income residents, joining a growing progressive movement around the country that views direct cash payments as a crucial strategy in lifting families out of poverty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Building on \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11863446/like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds\">a high-profile guaranteed income experiment\u003c/a> conducted in Stockton, the pilot programs in Marin County and Oakland will be among the first in the nation to send aid exclusively to residents of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our vision is an Oakland that has closed the racial wealth gap, and where all families thrive,\" Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said at a Tuesday morning press conference. \"We believe that guaranteed income is the most transformative policy that can achieve this vision and whose time has come.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A key premise of the basic income experiments is to let residents use the payments however they see fit, bucking the post-welfare reform trend of placing requirements or restrictions around government aid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Boosted by Stockton’s results, our goal is to add to the body of evidence that unrestricted cash to our lowest-income residents – and particularly those who’ve suffered from historical racial inequity – can improve outcomes + change systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Libby Schaaf (@LibbySchaaf) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/LibbySchaaf/status/1374459810205241347?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 23, 2021\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\"Guaranteed income is based on the belief that those in poverty are best able to identify what they need to escape that poverty,\" said Oakland City Councilmember Loren Taylor. \"If someone is tethered to a life of poverty, we can’t untether them by tying them down with more strings.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Oakland Resilient Families program will send $500 a month for 18 months to 600 families that identify as Black, Indigenous or as other people of color, chosen at random from a pool of applicants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Half of the spots will be reserved for families with a household income at or below 50% of the area median income (roughly $65,000 a year for a family of four), with the other half for families earning below 138% of the federal poverty level (about $36,000 annually for a family of four).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additionally, the participants will be split into two groups: one comprised of East Oakland residents and a separate group made up of residents from other parts of the city. Residents interested in applying for the basic income program can visit \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandresilientfamilies.org/faqs\">the website of Oakland Resilient Families\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The program will be funded by donations, chiefly from the nonprofit Blue Meridian Partners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jesús Gerena, CEO of the Family Independence Initiative, an anti-poverty nonprofit, said $6.75 million has been raised so far to begin payments to families this spring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gerena affirmed that this initiative, with its explicit focus on racial disparities in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/income-inequality-in-california/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">region beset by income inequality\u003c/a>, recognizes \"the value of our under-resourced communities and their contributions.\"\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Cash Aid Paired With Social Services\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Hours after the Oakland announcement, the Marin County Board of Supervisors signed off on a guaranteed income program for dozens of low-income mothers of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a 5-0 vote, the board agreed to spend $400,000 on a two-year pilot initiative, in partnership with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.marincf.org/\">Marin Community Foundation\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Monthly payments of $1,000 would be sent to 125 women whose children are younger than 18.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Participants will be chosen at random, but program organizers said they are hoping to source candidates from four underserved areas of the county: Marin City, Novato, the Canal area in San Rafael and West Marin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Philanthropy is at its best when it's testing out things, providing laboratories, if you will, to come up with great social policy or proof points that ultimately become policy.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Jonathan Logan, vice president of community engagement at Marin Community Foundation","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The novel feature of Marin's program is that the cash aid will be paired with optional wrap-around services for eligible mothers: The county's share of the investment will go to services such as job training and placement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The county, along with MCF, is currently ironing out the details on how eligible residents can apply. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are still probably in the tail end of the design phase,\" said Barbara Clifton Zarate, director for economic opportunity at MCF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The opportunity to test out and be part of new social policy is very exciting and it's the right thing for Marin County to do,\" said Supervisor Stephanie Moulton-Peters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As in Oakland, the Marin payments are financed by significant private investment, mitigating any potential spending concerns on the part of local officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Jonathan Logan, vice president of community engagement at MCF said the long-term goal is for the public sector to take an increasing role in funding guaranteed income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Philanthropy is at its best when it's testing out things, providing laboratories, if you will, to come up with great social policy or proof points that ultimately become policy,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>'An Investment Directly to Our People'\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Proposals to funnel basic income payments to residents have been \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11643575/stockton-gets-ready-to-experiment-with-universal-basic-income\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">floated for decades\u003c/a> — including by the \u003ca href=\"https://blackpower.web.unc.edu/2017/04/the-black-panthers-10-point-program/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Black Panther Party\u003c/a> — but this policy idea \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11818088/stockton-mayor-tubbs-how-residents-are-using-guaranteed-income-during-the-pandemic\">gathered momentum\u003c/a> when the city of Stockton took on a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11732253/stocktons-guaranteed-income-experiment-why-mayor-tubbs-is-doing-it\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">two-year experiment\u003c/a> of sending $500 payments to residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11864244","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/03/iStock_daycare_01-1020x680.jpeg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Researchers found that recipients in Stockton had \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11863446/like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">increased rates of employment\u003c/a>, along with better physical and emotional health outcomes. And the cash payments seemed to stabilize fluctuations in household incomes from month to month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pilot in Stockton was spearheaded by the city's former mayor, Michael Tubbs, who has founded the advocacy group Mayors for a Guaranteed Income to encourage the policy's adoption across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The promise of a universal basic income was a central plank of Democrat Andrew Yang's run for president in 2020. And the American Rescue Plan Act recently signed into law by President Biden relies on forms of direct aid including $1,400 checks for individuals and a child tax credit for parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs, who joined Mayor Schaaf Tuesday for the announcement, said, \"We truly believe the most important investment we can make as a government is an investment directly to our people.\"\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11866002/following-stocktons-lead-guaranteed-income-programs-to-launch-in-oakland-and-marin-county","authors":["227"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_27626","news_28824","news_5096","news_5605","news_6905","news_3729","news_541","news_18","news_22418","news_19961"],"featImg":"news_11866181","label":"news"},"news_11863446":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11863446","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11863446","score":null,"sort":[1614984404000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds","title":"'Like Being Able to Breathe': Stockton's Universal Basic Income Experiment Paid Off, Study Finds","publishDate":1614984404,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>A high-profile universal basic income experiment in Stockton – which gave randomly selected residents $500 per month for two years with no strings attached – measurably improved participants' job prospects, financial stability and overall well-being, according to a newly released study of the program's first year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration, or \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/\">SEED\u003c/a>, was founded in February 2019 by then-Mayor Michael Tubbs and funded by donors, including the \u003ca href=\"https://www.economicsecurityproject.org/\">Economic Security Project\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It gave 125 people living in neighborhoods at or below Stockton's median household income the unconditional monthly stipend. A study of the period from February 2019 to February 2020, conducted by a team of independent researchers, determined that full-time employment rose among those who received the guaranteed income and that their financial, physical and emotional health improved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Laura, Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration recipient\"]'Before SEED came along, I was paying a lot of bills and didn't know how I was gonna eat. It's like being able to breathe.'[/pullquote]\"The last year has shown us that far too many people were living on the financial edge, and were pushed over it by COVID-19,\" Tubbs said in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/press-landing/guaranteed-income-increases-employment-improves-financial-and-physical-health\">statement\u003c/a>. \"SEED gave people the dignity to make their own choices, the ability to live up to their potential and improved economic stability going into the turmoil of the pandemic.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea of universal basic income was featured prominently in the 2020 campaign of Democratic presidential candidate \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/03/22/819891943/andrew-yang-talks-universal-basic-income-during-the-coronavirus-crisis\">Andrew Yang\u003c/a> and has gained \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/27/895674685/-600-a-week-poverty-remedy-or-job-slayer\">further traction\u003c/a> during the coronavirus pandemic. Supporters say that for people living in poverty, a guaranteed income can alleviate stress and provide the financial security needed to find good jobs and avoid debt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Critics worry it could eliminate the incentive to work, as well as endanger certain existing safety net programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs countered this criticism in a 2018 interview with NPR's \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/01/29/581674763/in-california-stockton-experiments-with-guaranteed-basic-income\">\u003cem>All Things Considered\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, saying research and trials from the previous three decades did not indicate that $500 a month would discourage people from working. He argued that more financial stability would \"make people work better and smarter and harder,\" as well as make it possible to spend time with their families and participate in their communities. In a subsequent interview this January, he \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/01/18/958120759/martin-luther-king-jr-s-vision-for-economic-justice\">told NPR\u003c/a> that the money had decidedly not quashed people's work ethic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/MichaelDTubbs/status/1367143510592286725?s=20\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It did not change us into a different country, but it actually allowed folks to have a floor to persist during times especially like these ones,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among the key findings outlined in a 25-page \u003ca href=\"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6039d612b17d055cac14070f/t/603ef1194c474b329f33c329/1614737690661/SEED_Preliminary+Analysis-SEEDs+First+Year_Final+Report_Individual+Pages+-2.pdf\">white paper\u003c/a> are that the unconditional cash reduced the month-to-month \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/income-volatility\">income fluctuations\u003c/a> that households face, increased recipients' \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/employment\">full-time employment\u003c/a> by 12 percentage points and decreased their \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/health-and-wellbeing\">measurable feelings\u003c/a> of anxiety and depression, compared with their control-group counterparts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study also found that by alleviating financial hardship, the guaranteed income created \"new opportunities for self-determination, choice, goal-setting, and risk-taking.\" It furthered recipients' ability to cover unexpected expenses, which researchers noted was particularly important given the onset of the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Individuals spent most of the money on basic needs, including food, merchandise, utilities and auto costs, with less than 1% going toward alcohol and/or tobacco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Before SEED came along, I was paying a lot of bills and didn't know how I was gonna eat,\" a participant named Laura said in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/participant-stories/laura\">testimonial\u003c/a>. \"It's like being able to breathe.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study also noted that positive effects of the $500 sum rippled outward in ways that \"alleviated financial strain across fragile networks and generated more time for relationships.\" For instance, stabilizing food security for members of one household also alleviated any strain on those they ordinarily relied upon for food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stipends helped recipients stretch resources to cover needs like caring for aging or ill family members, school or sports supplies and transportation to and from doctor's appointments that they might otherwise have skipped — strategies, the researchers noted, that were more commonly utilized by women, who typically bear the brunt of most unpaid care work. Under less financial strain, they wrote, many women were able to attend to their own needs in ways they had not in years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Mona bought diapers for her grandchildren and an adequate amount of feminine hygiene products for the first time in months. Like many, she ordinarily bypassed meeting her basic hygiene for her grandkids,\" the paper reads. \"Bunny purchased new shoes for herself while paying someone to mow her grass rather than having to do it under a blazing Central Valley sun with health limitations.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/MichaelDTubbs/status/1367254516718923776?s=20\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the study's findings were cheered by those \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/taylorjo/status/1367157300256006157?s=20\">involved\u003c/a>, as well as many \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/katierosenberg/status/1367169372414967812?s=20\">mayors\u003c/a>, on Wednesday, some experts said more research is needed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matt Zwolinski, director of the Center for Ethics, Economics and Public Policy at the University of San Diego, told \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/stockton-health-coronavirus-pandemic-michael-tubbs-philanthropy-1227f2ab4a1bb7677a01b887ba91554f?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow\">The Associated Press\u003c/a> that while the findings are \"really good news for supporters of a basic income guarantee,\" the study is limited because it lasted only two years, adding that people are unlikely to drop out of the labor force if they know the extra money is temporary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several participants \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/#participant-highlights\">shared their stories\u003c/a> publicly on SEED's website, highlighting the ways in which the monthly stipend made their lives easier and more fulfilling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A married \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/participant-stories/jovan-\">father of three\u003c/a> who works in construction was able to repair his broken vehicle without needing to save up, making it possible for him to get to his job out of town. A mother of six and grandmother of six has put much of the money toward her \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/participant-stories/mekie\">teenage sons\u003c/a> — football camp, new shoes, money for food — as well as rent and bills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='Related Coverage' tag='universal-basic-income']\u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/participant-stories/tomas\">One recipient\u003c/a>, mourning the death of his daughter, said the money gave him time to take opportunities for himself and be around more for his family, noting that \"a lot of people have noticed a positive change.\" During the program, he wrote that even after the program's end, \"it'll still get better because they opened my eyes to it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Research spanning the full two years of the project will be available in 2022. In the meantime, similar initiatives are cropping up in cities across the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs, prior to \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-stockton-elections-michael-tubbs-campaigns-4c29a13c4a396db81fe844e707f153da\">losing his bid\u003c/a> for reelection last year, founded a group called \u003ca href=\"https://www.mayorsforagi.org/about\">Mayors for a Guaranteed Income\u003c/a>. The coalition now includes 40 mayors advocating for direct, recurring cash payments in cities from Seattle to San Antonio to Pittsburgh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of pilot programs are already in the works in places like \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/MayorSchewel/status/1367220777863544833?s=20\">Durham, North Carolina\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.wwno.org/post/guaranteed-income-coming-new-orleans-here-s-what-it-could-look\">New Orleans\u003c/a> and Gary, Indiana, where officials \u003ca href=\"https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/ct-ptb-gary-give-program-st-0226-20210225-xoo3mviy7vbvpfxry6egbquy24-story.html\">announced\u003c/a> one such initiative just last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs told NPR in January that he believes the time is right for the idea of universal basic income — of which Martin Luther King Jr. was an early proponent in the 1960s — to finally take hold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are literally at ground zero with sort of the racial reckoning we're having but also with the economic impacts of COVID-19,\" he said. \"When I think if we can get a guaranteed income, an income floor, at this time, we also have to have a conversation about the moral awakening our country needs because, again, as Dr. King said, poverty robs us of the richness of a society where everyone's given the opportunity to realize their full potential.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2021 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR.org\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=California+Program+Giving+%24500+No-Strings-Attached+Stipends+Pays+Off%2C+Study+Finds&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Independent researchers found that the first year of a universal basic income experiment in Stockton measurably improved recipients' job prospects, financial stability and overall well-being.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1614989617,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":1268},"headData":{"title":"'Like Being Able to Breathe': Stockton's Universal Basic Income Experiment Paid Off, Study Finds | KQED","description":"Independent researchers found that the first year of a universal basic income experiment in Stockton measurably improved recipients' job prospects, financial stability and overall well-being.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"'Like Being Able to Breathe': Stockton's Universal Basic Income Experiment Paid Off, Study Finds","datePublished":"2021-03-05T22:46:44.000Z","dateModified":"2021-03-06T00:13:37.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11863446 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11863446","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/03/05/like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds/","disqusTitle":"'Like Being Able to Breathe': Stockton's Universal Basic Income Experiment Paid Off, Study Finds","source":"NPR","sourceUrl":"https://www.npr.org/","nprImageCredit":"Rich Pedroncelli","nprByline":"\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/people/776048102/rachel-treisman\">Rachel Treisman\u003c/a>","nprImageAgency":"AP","nprStoryId":"973653719","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=973653719&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973653719/california-program-giving-500-no-strings-attached-stipends-pays-off-study-finds?ft=nprml&f=973653719","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Fri, 05 Mar 2021 09:24:00 -0500","nprStoryDate":"Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:49:00 -0500","nprLastModifiedDate":"Fri, 05 Mar 2021 09:24:44 -0500","path":"/news/11863446/like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A high-profile universal basic income experiment in Stockton – which gave randomly selected residents $500 per month for two years with no strings attached – measurably improved participants' job prospects, financial stability and overall well-being, according to a newly released study of the program's first year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration, or \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/\">SEED\u003c/a>, was founded in February 2019 by then-Mayor Michael Tubbs and funded by donors, including the \u003ca href=\"https://www.economicsecurityproject.org/\">Economic Security Project\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It gave 125 people living in neighborhoods at or below Stockton's median household income the unconditional monthly stipend. A study of the period from February 2019 to February 2020, conducted by a team of independent researchers, determined that full-time employment rose among those who received the guaranteed income and that their financial, physical and emotional health improved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Before SEED came along, I was paying a lot of bills and didn't know how I was gonna eat. It's like being able to breathe.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Laura, Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration recipient","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\"The last year has shown us that far too many people were living on the financial edge, and were pushed over it by COVID-19,\" Tubbs said in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/press-landing/guaranteed-income-increases-employment-improves-financial-and-physical-health\">statement\u003c/a>. \"SEED gave people the dignity to make their own choices, the ability to live up to their potential and improved economic stability going into the turmoil of the pandemic.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea of universal basic income was featured prominently in the 2020 campaign of Democratic presidential candidate \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/03/22/819891943/andrew-yang-talks-universal-basic-income-during-the-coronavirus-crisis\">Andrew Yang\u003c/a> and has gained \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/27/895674685/-600-a-week-poverty-remedy-or-job-slayer\">further traction\u003c/a> during the coronavirus pandemic. Supporters say that for people living in poverty, a guaranteed income can alleviate stress and provide the financial security needed to find good jobs and avoid debt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Critics worry it could eliminate the incentive to work, as well as endanger certain existing safety net programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs countered this criticism in a 2018 interview with NPR's \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/01/29/581674763/in-california-stockton-experiments-with-guaranteed-basic-income\">\u003cem>All Things Considered\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, saying research and trials from the previous three decades did not indicate that $500 a month would discourage people from working. He argued that more financial stability would \"make people work better and smarter and harder,\" as well as make it possible to spend time with their families and participate in their communities. In a subsequent interview this January, he \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/01/18/958120759/martin-luther-king-jr-s-vision-for-economic-justice\">told NPR\u003c/a> that the money had decidedly not quashed people's work ethic.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1367143510592286725"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\"It did not change us into a different country, but it actually allowed folks to have a floor to persist during times especially like these ones,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among the key findings outlined in a 25-page \u003ca href=\"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6039d612b17d055cac14070f/t/603ef1194c474b329f33c329/1614737690661/SEED_Preliminary+Analysis-SEEDs+First+Year_Final+Report_Individual+Pages+-2.pdf\">white paper\u003c/a> are that the unconditional cash reduced the month-to-month \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/income-volatility\">income fluctuations\u003c/a> that households face, increased recipients' \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/employment\">full-time employment\u003c/a> by 12 percentage points and decreased their \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/health-and-wellbeing\">measurable feelings\u003c/a> of anxiety and depression, compared with their control-group counterparts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study also found that by alleviating financial hardship, the guaranteed income created \"new opportunities for self-determination, choice, goal-setting, and risk-taking.\" It furthered recipients' ability to cover unexpected expenses, which researchers noted was particularly important given the onset of the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Individuals spent most of the money on basic needs, including food, merchandise, utilities and auto costs, with less than 1% going toward alcohol and/or tobacco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Before SEED came along, I was paying a lot of bills and didn't know how I was gonna eat,\" a participant named Laura said in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/participant-stories/laura\">testimonial\u003c/a>. \"It's like being able to breathe.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study also noted that positive effects of the $500 sum rippled outward in ways that \"alleviated financial strain across fragile networks and generated more time for relationships.\" For instance, stabilizing food security for members of one household also alleviated any strain on those they ordinarily relied upon for food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stipends helped recipients stretch resources to cover needs like caring for aging or ill family members, school or sports supplies and transportation to and from doctor's appointments that they might otherwise have skipped — strategies, the researchers noted, that were more commonly utilized by women, who typically bear the brunt of most unpaid care work. Under less financial strain, they wrote, many women were able to attend to their own needs in ways they had not in years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Mona bought diapers for her grandchildren and an adequate amount of feminine hygiene products for the first time in months. Like many, she ordinarily bypassed meeting her basic hygiene for her grandkids,\" the paper reads. \"Bunny purchased new shoes for herself while paying someone to mow her grass rather than having to do it under a blazing Central Valley sun with health limitations.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1367254516718923776"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>While the study's findings were cheered by those \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/taylorjo/status/1367157300256006157?s=20\">involved\u003c/a>, as well as many \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/katierosenberg/status/1367169372414967812?s=20\">mayors\u003c/a>, on Wednesday, some experts said more research is needed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matt Zwolinski, director of the Center for Ethics, Economics and Public Policy at the University of San Diego, told \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/stockton-health-coronavirus-pandemic-michael-tubbs-philanthropy-1227f2ab4a1bb7677a01b887ba91554f?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow\">The Associated Press\u003c/a> that while the findings are \"really good news for supporters of a basic income guarantee,\" the study is limited because it lasted only two years, adding that people are unlikely to drop out of the labor force if they know the extra money is temporary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several participants \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/#participant-highlights\">shared their stories\u003c/a> publicly on SEED's website, highlighting the ways in which the monthly stipend made their lives easier and more fulfilling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A married \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/participant-stories/jovan-\">father of three\u003c/a> who works in construction was able to repair his broken vehicle without needing to save up, making it possible for him to get to his job out of town. A mother of six and grandmother of six has put much of the money toward her \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/participant-stories/mekie\">teenage sons\u003c/a> — football camp, new shoes, money for food — as well as rent and bills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","tag":"universal-basic-income"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/participant-stories/tomas\">One recipient\u003c/a>, mourning the death of his daughter, said the money gave him time to take opportunities for himself and be around more for his family, noting that \"a lot of people have noticed a positive change.\" During the program, he wrote that even after the program's end, \"it'll still get better because they opened my eyes to it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Research spanning the full two years of the project will be available in 2022. In the meantime, similar initiatives are cropping up in cities across the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs, prior to \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-stockton-elections-michael-tubbs-campaigns-4c29a13c4a396db81fe844e707f153da\">losing his bid\u003c/a> for reelection last year, founded a group called \u003ca href=\"https://www.mayorsforagi.org/about\">Mayors for a Guaranteed Income\u003c/a>. The coalition now includes 40 mayors advocating for direct, recurring cash payments in cities from Seattle to San Antonio to Pittsburgh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of pilot programs are already in the works in places like \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/MayorSchewel/status/1367220777863544833?s=20\">Durham, North Carolina\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.wwno.org/post/guaranteed-income-coming-new-orleans-here-s-what-it-could-look\">New Orleans\u003c/a> and Gary, Indiana, where officials \u003ca href=\"https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/ct-ptb-gary-give-program-st-0226-20210225-xoo3mviy7vbvpfxry6egbquy24-story.html\">announced\u003c/a> one such initiative just last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs told NPR in January that he believes the time is right for the idea of universal basic income — of which Martin Luther King Jr. was an early proponent in the 1960s — to finally take hold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are literally at ground zero with sort of the racial reckoning we're having but also with the economic impacts of COVID-19,\" he said. \"When I think if we can get a guaranteed income, an income floor, at this time, we also have to have a conversation about the moral awakening our country needs because, again, as Dr. King said, poverty robs us of the richness of a society where everyone's given the opportunity to realize their full potential.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2021 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR.org\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=California+Program+Giving+%24500+No-Strings-Attached+Stipends+Pays+Off%2C+Study+Finds&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11863446/like-being-able-to-breathe-stocktons-universal-basic-income-experiment-paid-off-study-finds","authors":["byline_news_11863446"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_20903","news_784","news_22418","news_19961"],"featImg":"news_11863447","label":"source_news_11863446"},"news_11848185":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11848185","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11848185","score":null,"sort":[1605900274000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"with-stockton-mayor-michael-tubbs-out-will-his-guaranteed-income-experiment-stay","title":"With Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs Out, Will His 'Guaranteed Income' Experiment Stay?","publishDate":1605900274,"format":"audio","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs may have lost his bid for a second term in office, but many say the work he set in motion will continue. When he was elected in 2016, Tubbs became the city’s first African American mayor — and its youngest at age 27. Since then, Tubbs gained a national profile for testing the idea of a “guaranteed income” in Stockton, where he was also born and raised.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Known as the \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/\">Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration\u003c/a>, or SEED, the project was meant to be a temporary proof of concept. It gave 125 people $500 a month — no strings attached — for a year and a half. The question it aimed to explore was whether simply giving money to low-income residents was the help they needed. Doubters said cash handouts would lead to bad behavior, while SEED’s website says the experiment would prove that “poverty results from a lack of cash, not character.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The project was set to expire this past summer, but when the COVID-19 pandemic hit, Tubbs extended the program through January 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How recipients spend the monthly $500 is tracked by independent researchers. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11818088/stockton-mayor-tubbs-how-residents-are-using-guaranteed-income-during-the-pandemic\">Tubbs told KQED in May\u003c/a> that because of the pandemic, spending on food went up, from roughly a third of all purchases to half.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Folks are spending money on real necessities,” Tubbs said. “Folks are really hunkering down and making sure they have the basics to shelter in place.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tubbs also started “Mayors for a Guaranteed Income” \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11838236/inspired-by-stockton-basic-income-might-be-coming-to-more-cities\">to bring other cities into the experiment\u003c/a>. So far, \u003ca href=\"https://www.mayorsforagi.org/who\">25 mayors\u003c/a> have signed on to push for guaranteed income at the federal level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is now much bigger than Stockton,” said Natalie Foster, co-chair of the Economic Security Project, which \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11777782/income-experiment-offers-stockton-residents-a-glimpse-at-the-california-dream\">funds a portion of Stockton’s program\u003c/a>. “There are cities across America who have picked up this mantle.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Lange Luntao, Reinvent Stockton Foundation executive director\"]'We’ve been known more for our illiteracy and economic challenges and crime. In the past four to eight years that’s begun to change.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After two weeks of counting ballots, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-stockton-elections-michael-tubbs-campaigns-4c29a13c4a396db81fe844e707f153da\">Tubbs conceded the race\u003c/a> to challenger Kevin Lincoln, a Republican pastor and U.S. Marines veteran, who held a comfortable 12-point lead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s unclear whether Mayor-elect Lincoln will support the initiatives of his predecessor, but he has said his goal is to focus on the priorities of Stockton residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lange Luntao, executive director of the Reinvent Stockton Foundation, said he’s concerned about losing the gains Tubbs made in improving Stockton’s image.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve been known more for our illiteracy and economic challenges and crime,” Luntao said. “In the past four to eight years that’s begun to change.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag=\"michael-tubbs\" label=\"related coverage\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Luntao said he thinks the programs Tubbs started, or supported, including Stockton Scholars, Advance Peace and Stockton Service Corps, will live on, Tubbs or no Tubbs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“From a very technical perspective, the programs we’ve launched in Stockton are built to be resilient,” Luntao said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>University of Tennessee professor Stacia Martin-West, one of the researchers compiling and analyzing data about the guaranteed income program, said the research will continue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Mayor Tubbs is the visionary and the champion of this, but it is really a community-based organization that houses the project,” she said. “We’re still very embedded in Stockton, very embedded in the community, and have great partnerships with organizations, so we don’t really see anything changing.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Stockton has been giving 125 residents $500 a month, no strings attached — an experiment other mayors now say they want to replicate.\r\n","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1605912260,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":19,"wordCount":623},"headData":{"title":"With Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs Out, Will His 'Guaranteed Income' Experiment Stay? | KQED","description":"Stockton has been giving 125 residents $500 a month, no strings attached — an experiment other mayors now say they want to replicate.\r\n","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"With Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs Out, Will His 'Guaranteed Income' Experiment Stay?","datePublished":"2020-11-20T19:24:34.000Z","dateModified":"2020-11-20T22:44:20.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11848185 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11848185","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/11/20/with-stockton-mayor-michael-tubbs-out-will-his-guaranteed-income-experiment-stay/","disqusTitle":"With Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs Out, Will His 'Guaranteed Income' Experiment Stay?","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/02dfec82-f35a-4fdb-9ee2-ac780115e02f/audio.mp3","path":"/news/11848185/with-stockton-mayor-michael-tubbs-out-will-his-guaranteed-income-experiment-stay","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs may have lost his bid for a second term in office, but many say the work he set in motion will continue. When he was elected in 2016, Tubbs became the city’s first African American mayor — and its youngest at age 27. Since then, Tubbs gained a national profile for testing the idea of a “guaranteed income” in Stockton, where he was also born and raised.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Known as the \u003ca href=\"https://www.stocktondemonstration.org/\">Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration\u003c/a>, or SEED, the project was meant to be a temporary proof of concept. It gave 125 people $500 a month — no strings attached — for a year and a half. The question it aimed to explore was whether simply giving money to low-income residents was the help they needed. 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