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And that, in conjunction with a few other things, has resulted in what has become something of a mini \"trade war\" in the solar industry, headquartered in the US but occurring in other places as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>This spring we saw the U.S. Commerce Department levy trade tariffs on Chinese solar panels. Are people paying more because of them?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's been sort of a strange situation because the way that the tariffs worked out in the US, they apply to photovoltaic cell manufacturing. The reason that matters is that the solar panels are basically manufactured in four steps. The cell manufacturing is really the third of four steps. The fourth step is assembling those cells into panels, or modules.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The way that the tariff ruling worked out in the US is: the only thing that really matters is where the cells themselves are manufactured. And the result of that has been that a lot of Chinese manufacturers have essentially started tolling, or having somebody else manufacture their cells for them offshore, most popular being Taiwan, then shipping them back into China, assembling them into modules and sending them to the US, not being subject to the tariff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, that does create a cost impact. We estimate it to be something like six or seven cents per watt, which is a little less than 10 percent of the cost of a module, which means there has been a very slight incremental cost impact to anybody who's buying solar panels in the US, but it hasn't been very big. On the scale of a system (we're talking about a panel that costs maybe 80 cents, and a system that costs three or four dollars per watt), a five-or-six cent cost impact isn't huge. 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But to be sure, if you cannot weather a very, very difficult storm in which you're not going to be making money for the next 18 months, then you better be looking for a drastic change in your strategy pretty quickly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We still have a global oversupply. So maybe it (the tariff) provides a bit of an incremental benefit to US solar manufacturers, but it really hasn't fixed the issues that they're facing on a global scale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Talking about the solar manufacturers these days is kind of depressing, but talking about the solar market in the US is a pretty positive story. 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Solar installations are booming, but there’s also a looming trade war with China. Citing illegal subsidies, U.S. officials have placed trade tariffs on Chinese solar panels. American solar companies are split on whether it will be good or bad for the industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>A Solar Manufacturer\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At SunPower’s solar manufacturing plant near San Jose, workers screw frames onto shiny, six-foot solar panels as they come off the line. “We are running 24 hours a day,” says quality engineer Eric Kao.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This plant has had a long list of notable visitors: Governors Jerry Brown and Arnold Schwarzenegger, Energy Secretary Steven Chu. That’s because SunPower is one of the top suppliers in the country -- and because there aren’t many solar plants left to visit. It’s getting lonely to be an American solar manufacturer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s going to require being lonely to be one of the winners but it’s unfortunate that there aren’t many American solar companies,” says Tom Werner, CEO of SunPower. He says five years ago, things were looking good for U.S. solar manufacturers. There were growing markets in Germany, Japan and California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Many of the industry participants were making good profits. Well, that attracts competition,” he says. Chinese manufacturers flooded the market with solar panels. Within four years, panel prices fell seventy five percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The economics have gotten way, way more challenging. It's difficult for some companies to make it,” Werner says. SunPower has survived, but is just hoping to break even this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, several American solar panel companies filed a trade complaint against China, saying Chinese solar companies are getting illegal subsidies and are dumping panels on the US market. In May, the U.S. Commerce Department agreed and levied trade tariffs of 25 to 35 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Werner says while SunPower didn’t directly join the complaint, it does stand to gain. “Let’s just say it won’t hurt our pricing but I don’t know if it will be a big advantage. Having a trade war is definitely not good for the industry so we need to sort this out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The solar industry doesn’t need more bad news, says Werner, especially after the political scandal over one particular bankrupt solar company. “It’s amazing how many people know the name of that company.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Solyndra, that is. It’s a name Werner avoids saying, much like like Lord Voldemort in Harry Potter. “Well see, if I name the company then I’m just propagating the whole deal,” Werner says. Tariffs or no tariffs, Werner says some US manufacturers may not make it either. It’s an entirely different story with solar installers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Flip Side: A Solar Installer\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Sungevity’s Oakland headquarters, a team of sales people grabs maracas off their desks. “So the maraca shake happens when there’s a sale,” says Danny Kennedy, president of Sungevity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sungevity is one part power company, one part internet startup. It designs residential solar systems virtually by using satellite photos of each house. Like online shopping, Sungevity makes a sale before a truck ever goes out. And sales have been good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We grew gangbusters in 2010. Doubled again in ‘11. Have continued to grow this year,” says Kennedy. That’s thanks to a new option for customers to lease a solar system, instead of buying it upfront. It’s also more affordable because panels are cheaper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is something I think we should celebrate – the fact that we’re driving cost out of clean energy,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sungevity buys panels from the US, Korea and from China. Even with the trade tariffs, prices are about the same because Chinese solar companies have found a loophole. The tariffs are only on solar cells, not the entire solar panel. So, the cells are manufactured offshore and put into panels in China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Kennedy says focusing on these manufacturing jobs is a mistake. The real green jobs are elsewhere. “There’s more job density in the sales, finance, installation and maintenance end of the value chain than there is in the factory. It’s probably a ratio of three to one.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California leads the nation in solar jobs. Kennedy is concerned that a trade war with China would put them at risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s crazy talk. We’re growing faster than any industry over a hundred billion dollars in value in the global economy. And yet, there is this nabobs of negativity around us that are causing concerns in the investment community,” says Kennedy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Solar’s Teenage Years\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nAll of this adds up to some major growing pains for the industry. “It is totally a teenager in a lot of ways,” says Dan Kammen, a professor at UC Berkeley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The industry is growing dramatically. There’s also incredible turmoil. And there are some teenagers who are clearly going to be young prodigies and others who are going to go into rehab,” says Kammen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When companies fight over market share and race to the lowest price, Kammen says it’s the startups with cutting-edge technology that just can’t compete.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A battle between the two biggest players, the US and China, is one where we might actually have casualties that aren’t just business casualties, they’re actually, pieces of innovation getting lost.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The trade tariffs won’t be final until the US International Trade Commission rules on whether China has been illegally subsidizing their solar industry. That decision is expected on Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Federal officials have put trade tariffs on Chinese solar panels. 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Solar installations are booming, but there’s also a looming trade war with China. Citing illegal subsidies, U.S. officials have placed trade tariffs on Chinese solar panels. American solar companies are split on whether it will be good or bad for the industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>A Solar Manufacturer\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At SunPower’s solar manufacturing plant near San Jose, workers screw frames onto shiny, six-foot solar panels as they come off the line. “We are running 24 hours a day,” says quality engineer Eric Kao.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This plant has had a long list of notable visitors: Governors Jerry Brown and Arnold Schwarzenegger, Energy Secretary Steven Chu. That’s because SunPower is one of the top suppliers in the country -- and because there aren’t many solar plants left to visit. It’s getting lonely to be an American solar manufacturer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s going to require being lonely to be one of the winners but it’s unfortunate that there aren’t many American solar companies,” says Tom Werner, CEO of SunPower. He says five years ago, things were looking good for U.S. solar manufacturers. There were growing markets in Germany, Japan and California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Many of the industry participants were making good profits. Well, that attracts competition,” he says. Chinese manufacturers flooded the market with solar panels. Within four years, panel prices fell seventy five percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The economics have gotten way, way more challenging. It's difficult for some companies to make it,” Werner says. SunPower has survived, but is just hoping to break even this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, several American solar panel companies filed a trade complaint against China, saying Chinese solar companies are getting illegal subsidies and are dumping panels on the US market. In May, the U.S. Commerce Department agreed and levied trade tariffs of 25 to 35 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Werner says while SunPower didn’t directly join the complaint, it does stand to gain. “Let’s just say it won’t hurt our pricing but I don’t know if it will be a big advantage. Having a trade war is definitely not good for the industry so we need to sort this out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The solar industry doesn’t need more bad news, says Werner, especially after the political scandal over one particular bankrupt solar company. “It’s amazing how many people know the name of that company.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Solyndra, that is. It’s a name Werner avoids saying, much like like Lord Voldemort in Harry Potter. “Well see, if I name the company then I’m just propagating the whole deal,” Werner says. Tariffs or no tariffs, Werner says some US manufacturers may not make it either. It’s an entirely different story with solar installers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Flip Side: A Solar Installer\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Sungevity’s Oakland headquarters, a team of sales people grabs maracas off their desks. “So the maraca shake happens when there’s a sale,” says Danny Kennedy, president of Sungevity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sungevity is one part power company, one part internet startup. It designs residential solar systems virtually by using satellite photos of each house. Like online shopping, Sungevity makes a sale before a truck ever goes out. And sales have been good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We grew gangbusters in 2010. Doubled again in ‘11. Have continued to grow this year,” says Kennedy. That’s thanks to a new option for customers to lease a solar system, instead of buying it upfront. It’s also more affordable because panels are cheaper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is something I think we should celebrate – the fact that we’re driving cost out of clean energy,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sungevity buys panels from the US, Korea and from China. Even with the trade tariffs, prices are about the same because Chinese solar companies have found a loophole. The tariffs are only on solar cells, not the entire solar panel. So, the cells are manufactured offshore and put into panels in China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Kennedy says focusing on these manufacturing jobs is a mistake. The real green jobs are elsewhere. “There’s more job density in the sales, finance, installation and maintenance end of the value chain than there is in the factory. It’s probably a ratio of three to one.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California leads the nation in solar jobs. Kennedy is concerned that a trade war with China would put them at risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s crazy talk. We’re growing faster than any industry over a hundred billion dollars in value in the global economy. And yet, there is this nabobs of negativity around us that are causing concerns in the investment community,” says Kennedy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Solar’s Teenage Years\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nAll of this adds up to some major growing pains for the industry. “It is totally a teenager in a lot of ways,” says Dan Kammen, a professor at UC Berkeley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The industry is growing dramatically. There’s also incredible turmoil. And there are some teenagers who are clearly going to be young prodigies and others who are going to go into rehab,” says Kammen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When companies fight over market share and race to the lowest price, Kammen says it’s the startups with cutting-edge technology that just can’t compete.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A battle between the two biggest players, the US and China, is one where we might actually have casualties that aren’t just business casualties, they’re actually, pieces of innovation getting lost.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The trade tariffs won’t be final until the US International Trade Commission rules on whether China has been illegally subsidizing their solar industry. 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Instead of using semiconducting silicon, proteins from plants transform light into electricity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Physicist Andreas Mershin, at Massachusetts Institute for Technology, and his colleagues say they’ve simplified the production of plant-based solar cells so that any lab can make them. Mershin hopes these biological solar panels could provide power in places that currently have no electricity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People have been growing their own food for millennia,” he says. “I think it’s time to start growing our own solar power.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Plants make sugars using energy from the sun in a process called \u003ca title=\"photosynthesis explainer\" href=\"http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/BIOBK/BioBookPS.html\">photosynthesis\u003c/a>. Protein complexes convert the light energy into electrons, which drive the plant’s sugar-producing factories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These plant proteins are tuned to maximize the sun’s energy. Practically all of the sunlight that hits them gets converted to electrons. Commercial solar panels \u003ca title=\"solar cell quantum efficiency\" href=\"http://www.eere.energy.gov/basics/renewable_energy/pv_cell_quantum_efficiency.html\">struggle to match this efficiency\u003c/a> because they can’t absorb all wavelengths of visible light.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mershin wanted to hijack the efficient electron generators in plants to generate electricity for people. But to build a working solar panel using proteins, he had to stabilize the proteins on the surface so that they perform just like they do in cells. And he had to attach enough of them to generate a measurable current.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mershin harvested one type of light-collecting protein complex from photosynthetic bacteria. Suspended in a stabilizing solution, the photosynthetic protein complex maintained its shape and function.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He painted the protein solution on a glass slide covered with nano-sized rods of zinc oxide, a common ingredient in sunscreen. The rods hold more protein than the flat surfaces commonly used to make photosynthetic solar panels -- enough to give the panel a faint green tinge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bio-solar cell converted about 0.1% of sun’s energy into electrical energy -- 10,000 times more efficient than previous biosolar cells. Mershin says his plant-based solar cells will never match the \u003ca title=\"solar panel conversion efficiency explanation\" href=\"http://www.eere.energy.gov/basics/renewable_energy/pv_cell_conversion_efficiency.html\">conversion efficiencies\u003c/a> of commercial solar panels. But even increasing the efficiency to 1% could make these plant-powered panels useful for people in the developing world who have no electricity, he adds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mershin hopes other labs around the world will start experimenting with these green solar panels to improving their efficiency and lifetime. His method and results are freely available from a \u003ca title=\"research paper about biosolar cell\" href=\"http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/120202/srep00234/full/srep00234.html\">paper \u003c/a> published in the journal \u003cem>Scientific Reports\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead of throwing plant trimmings or grass clippings onto a compost pile, perhaps one day we’ll set some aside to make solar panels too. 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And he had to attach enough of them to generate a measurable current.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mershin harvested one type of light-collecting protein complex from photosynthetic bacteria. Suspended in a stabilizing solution, the photosynthetic protein complex maintained its shape and function.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He painted the protein solution on a glass slide covered with nano-sized rods of zinc oxide, a common ingredient in sunscreen. The rods hold more protein than the flat surfaces commonly used to make photosynthetic solar panels -- enough to give the panel a faint green tinge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bio-solar cell converted about 0.1% of sun’s energy into electrical energy -- 10,000 times more efficient than previous biosolar cells. 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At various stages of its existence, the island has run on coal, wood, bunker oil, and now diesel fuel, all ferried from the mainland. Image courtesy of the Golden Gate NRA, Park Archives.\u003c/em>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Getting anything to Alcatraz Island has always been a headache. Whether it was 10,000 muskets to the \u003ca href=\"http://www.nps.gov/archive/alcatraz/mil.html\">military outpost\u003c/a> in the 1850s, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nps.gov/history/museum/exhibits/alca/work.html\">dirty laundry for prisoners to wash\u003c/a> in the 1950s, or 5,000 daily tourists this year, nearly everything animal, vegetable, or mineral on Alcatraz gets there by boat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This makes Alcatraz a great example of green-ness by necessity. The less efficient you are out there, the greater the hassle factor. Take water, for instance: Every drop of it -- for toilets, for water fountains, for the historic \u003ca href=\"http://www.alcatrazgardens.org/\">prisoners' gardens\u003c/a> -- must come in from the mainland. So, staff here not only bring their dirty dishes home to wash at the end of the day, they've built a \u003ca href=\"http://watersprout.org/water_systems/alcatraz.html.\">rainwater catchment system\u003c/a> to irrigate the gardens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Getting power to Alcatraz is its own special conundrum. At various stages of its existence, the island has run on coal, wood, bunker oil, and now diesel fuel, all ferried from the mainland. At one point, in the early 20th century, the boats got a brief respite when workers lay cables under the bay to connect Alcatraz to the mainland grid. That experiment ended when boats snagged the cables, leaving Alcatraz once again in the dark.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the Obama Administration announced $750 million dollars in stimulus funds for the National Parks System, Park officials glimpsed a rare opportunity to solve (or at least mitigate) this problem once and for all. The new \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14524120?nclick_check=1\">solar panels\u003c/a> on the island are expected to cost somewhere between $5-10 million, and will be installed in late summer. (That's less than half the estimate, by the way, that engineers gave for digging trenches under the Bay to once again lay cables connecting Alcatraz to PG&E lines.) Once it's up and running in Summer 2011, the system will supply more than half the island's electricity needs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you haven't already, check out the terrific \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/slideshow/alcatraz-goes-green-slideshow-version\">slide show\u003c/a> that QUEST intern Roberto Daza put together for this story. (It plays with the five-and-a-half minute radio story.) 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A rash of solar panel thefts in the Napa Valley, and elsewhere, have spawned an entire new industry,\u003ca href=\"http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/ariel-schwartz/sustainability/solar-security-systems-prevent-burglars-snatching-solar-panels\">solar security systems\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It seems that as prices for scrap metal have fallen, thieves have turned their attention to something else popping up in rural areas, solar panels. With more than 34,000 solar installations in California, the state is also reporting the most thefts. Napa Valley is a hot spot because of all the solar systems that have been installed in the past few years. \"It is a rural area and these solar arrays are often ground mounted and tucked away in the back of vineyards, it makes them an easy target\", says Napa Sheriff Deputy Jon Thompson. The Sheriff's office has been giving wineries safety tips for securing their panels. After being hit twice, Michael Honig of\u003ca href=\"http://www.honigwine.com/flash/HonigFlash.aspx\">Honig Winery in Rutherford\u003c/a> got wise and installed an alarm system. The third time, the thieves got caught in the act. Three local suspects were apprehended.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is an environmental CSI case of the first order because no one knows where he panels are actually going. In some southern California solar heists, the stolen panels have turned up for sale on Craigslist. But in northern California, the stolen panels have yet to be found. Deepening the mystery, the panels are not likely valuable for their component parts raising the possibility of a black market for panels. There is a lot of speculation where they are going. Some say marijuana growers in Mendocino County are stealing panels to hide their electricity use. Others believe the panels are going off shore. In addition to security, federal legislation may come to the rescue. Congressman Mike Thompson, who represents the Napa Valley, has included a provision against solar thefts in the\u003ca href=\"http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/19142\">Solar Technology Roadmap Act\u003c/a>. The bill would create a national registry for solar panel serial numbers to try to ‘short circuit' the crooks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"left\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/quest/2009/12/23/reporters-notes-solar-thieves/\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/wp-content/uploads/sites/39/images/radio_icon_light.gif\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/audio/solar-thieves\">Listen to Solar Thieves\u003c/a> radio report online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>38.4684049 -122.4029153\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The economy may be in the tank but business is booming for solar security companies. A rash of solar panel thefts in the Napa Valley, and elsewhere, have spawned an entire new industry.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1443829830,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":8,"wordCount":364},"headData":{"title":"Reporter's Notes: Solar Thieves | KQED","description":"The economy may be in the tank but business is booming for solar security companies. A rash of solar panel thefts in the Napa Valley, and elsewhere, have spawned an entire new industry.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"4633 http://www.kqed.org/quest/blog/?p=4633","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/quest/2009/12/23/reporters-notes-solar-thieves/","disqusTitle":"Reporter's Notes: Solar Thieves","path":"/quest/4633/reporters-notes-solar-thieves","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"left\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/audio/solar-thieves\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/wp-content/uploads/sites/39/2009/12/solarthieves300.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003cem>Napa Valley is a hot spot for solar panel thieves, but the Sheriff's office is on the case.\u003c/em>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The economy may be in the tank but business is booming for solar security companies. A rash of solar panel thefts in the Napa Valley, and elsewhere, have spawned an entire new industry,\u003ca href=\"http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/ariel-schwartz/sustainability/solar-security-systems-prevent-burglars-snatching-solar-panels\">solar security systems\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It seems that as prices for scrap metal have fallen, thieves have turned their attention to something else popping up in rural areas, solar panels. With more than 34,000 solar installations in California, the state is also reporting the most thefts. Napa Valley is a hot spot because of all the solar systems that have been installed in the past few years. \"It is a rural area and these solar arrays are often ground mounted and tucked away in the back of vineyards, it makes them an easy target\", says Napa Sheriff Deputy Jon Thompson. The Sheriff's office has been giving wineries safety tips for securing their panels. After being hit twice, Michael Honig of\u003ca href=\"http://www.honigwine.com/flash/HonigFlash.aspx\">Honig Winery in Rutherford\u003c/a> got wise and installed an alarm system. The third time, the thieves got caught in the act. Three local suspects were apprehended.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is an environmental CSI case of the first order because no one knows where he panels are actually going. In some southern California solar heists, the stolen panels have turned up for sale on Craigslist. But in northern California, the stolen panels have yet to be found. Deepening the mystery, the panels are not likely valuable for their component parts raising the possibility of a black market for panels. There is a lot of speculation where they are going. Some say marijuana growers in Mendocino County are stealing panels to hide their electricity use. Others believe the panels are going off shore. In addition to security, federal legislation may come to the rescue. Congressman Mike Thompson, who represents the Napa Valley, has included a provision against solar thefts in the\u003ca href=\"http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/19142\">Solar Technology Roadmap Act\u003c/a>. 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We called consultants, local suppliers, green-minded architects, and collected as many leads as we could. We found a handful of great subjects, but we never quite tapped into that centralized hub we'd envisioned. And that, it turned out, was the point. When you're a D.I.Y.er, you tend to D things Y.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which is what's so appealing about these projects. Green innovators like those we meet in the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/audio/beyond-solar-do-it-yourself-home-energy\">radio piece\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/audio/-web-extra-generating-energy-right-at-home\">slideshow\u003c/a> are working on their own initiative, spending much more time and money than they would with more conventional technologies, and running a high risk of failure. Ultimately, though, we'll all learn from their mistakes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"right\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/wp-content/uploads/sites/39/2008/08/windturbine.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003cem>Wind Turbine\u003c/em>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/24/BUG3OQK6MJ1.DTL\" target=\"_blank\">Chris Beaudoin\u003c/a> fits one type of these backyard innovators: He's a long-time environmentalist willing to spend some extra cash trying out something new. San Francisco's \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfenvironment.org\" target=\"_blank\">Department of the Environment\u003c/a> put Beaudoin in touch with \u003ca href=\"http://bluegreenpacific.com\" target=\"_blank\">Blue Green Pacific\u003c/a>, a local company that will ultimately have two turbines up and running on Beaudoin's garage. So far there are only about five \"micro-wind\" projects like this in the city, about half of them operational. But stay tuned. \u003ca href=\"http://sfgov.org/site/sfenvironment_page.asp?id=79801\" target=\"_blank\">Gavin Newsom is encouraging homeowners\u003c/a> to experiment with wind turbines, and the state of California is already offering \u003ca href=\"http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/erprebate/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">rebates on home turbines\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dixon Beatty and Stephanie Parrot, who live in West Oakland, fall at the other end of the spectrum, what I'd call extreme do-it-yourselfers (though I'm sure they'll disagree). They've spent years remodeling a beautiful old Victorian in West Oakland that they still call a work-in-progress, despite well-functioning \u003ca href=\"http://www.heliodyne.com/\" target=\"_blank\">solar thermal\u003c/a> and photovoltaic systems that keep the house warm and lit with almost no help from PG&E.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"left\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/wp-content/uploads/sites/39/2008/08/dixon.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003cem>Dixon Beatty\u003c/em>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/02/HOP5119FUN.DTL&hw=Lisa+Rubenstein&sn=001&sc=1000\" target=\"_blank\">Lisa and Michael Rubenstein \u003c/a>wanted to build their green dream home in Hillsborough they thought they would derive the majority of their energy from photovoltaic rooftop solar panels. PV Panels, afterall, have been the energy technology of choice for eco-friendly buildings. But as the Rubensteins waded further into construction, their \u003ca href=\"http://www.trgarch.com/\" target=\"_blank\">architect\u003c/a> suggested a \u003ca href=\"http://www.88hvac.com/\" target=\"_blank\">geothermal heating cooling system\u003c/a>. They were told geothermal can provide the most energy efficient, environmentally friendly home and so, they decided to go for it. Together, with PV solar and solar thermal panels, the Rubenstein's monthly energy bill is only eight dollars. Not bad for a 6,000 sq. foot home. It was an expensive project but what they have created is an experimental, contemporary home that gives living green a whole new aesthetic.\u003cbr>\n\u003cspan class=\"right\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/wp-content/uploads/sites/39/2008/08/couple.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003cem>Lisa and Michael Rubenstein\u003c/em>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also merging modern design with eco-practical, is \u003ca href=\"http://www.sunset.com/sunset/home/article/0,20633,1666702,00.html\" target=\"_blank\">Sunset Magazine's idea house\u003c/a> for 2007. PIX Located in San Francisco's Mission District, Casa Verde is Sunset's first idea house to be focused in an urban setting, The model home features solar and wind power, a green roof and a sleek, eco-friendly aesthetic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cbr clear=\"all\">\u003cbr>\n\u003cspan class=\"left\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/audio/beyond-solar-do-it-yourself-home-energy\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/wp-content/uploads/sites/39/images/tv_icon_light.gif\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/span>Listen to the\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/audio/beyond-solar-do-it-yourself-home-energy\">\"Beyond Solar: Do It Yourself Home Energy\u003c/a> radio report online, and watch our \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/audio/-web-extra-generating-energy-right-at-home\">Web Extra: Generating Energy Right at Home\u003c/a> slideshow.\u003cbr>\n37.750912 -122.410603\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"When we started working on this project, we thought it would be easy to find people to interview: D.I.Y.ers with a passion for sustainable building who were testing out new technologies in their backyards. 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When you're a D.I.Y.er, you tend to D things Y.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"737 http://www.kqed.org/quest/blog/?p=737","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/quest/2008/08/01/producers-notes-beyond-solar-do-it-yourself-home-energy/","disqusTitle":"Producer's Notes: Beyond Solar: Do It Yourself Home Energy","path":"/quest/737/producers-notes-beyond-solar-do-it-yourself-home-energy","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"left\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/audio/beyond-solar-do-it-yourself-home-energy\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/wp-content/uploads/sites/39/2008/08/main1.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Senior Radio Editor \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/author/andrea-kissack/\">Andrea Kissack\u003c/a> also contributed to this post.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When we started working on this project, we thought it would be easy to find people to interview: D.I.Y.ers with a passion for sustainable building who were testing out new technologies in their backyards. 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