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It's a theme he touched on \u003ca href=\"https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/news/a42519/david-harbour-stranger-things-sag-award-speech/\">in an acceptance speech\u003c/a> he gave at the SAG awards in 2017.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are united in that we are all human beings and we are all together on this horrible, painful, joyous, exciting, and mysterious ride that is being alive,\" he said. \"Now, as we act in the continuing narrative of \u003cem>Stranger Things,\u003c/em> we 1983 Midwesterners will repel bullies. We will shelter freaks and outcasts, those who have no homes. We will get past the lies. We will hunt monsters.\u003cem>\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcnHOQ-cHa0\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Interview Highlights\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the types of characters he's drawn to\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's a temptation to be larger than life, to be more beautiful and more capable and I've always been drawn to characters that are less-than capable, that make me feel not alone in my weirdness, in the fact that I don't always fit in, in the fact that I don't always do the right thing. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That sort of mess I want to bring to the screen so that people can maybe feel deeper empathy for others. We're all a bit of a mess. I mean, we're all kind of chaotically struggling to get through this life in various forms and there's a lot of joy in that, and a lot of sadness, and a lot of all kinds of different emotions. So, I've always wanted to portray that much more than to be someone who people looked at as perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On watching his young co-stars grow up\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[In this season,] you watch the kids grow up in real time. And you feel the passage of time, more strongly than anything you could write or act....\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I mean, it's very strange. And like, I sort of mirror Hopper in a sense where I started off with them trying to be very separate, you know, even with my work, I just wanted to be apart from them. And then as the show grows and they grow and they become more of who they are, we've gotten closer and closer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_112686\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-112686\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Jim Hopper on the case, Season 3, 'Stranger Things'.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-768x432.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jim Hopper on the case, Season 3, 'Stranger Things'. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Netflix)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the advice he gives to the teen actors on \u003c/strong>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>Stranger Things\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think that as young artists, they're getting so much success and ... I want Millie [Bobby Brown] to be the next Meryl Streep and I want Finn [Wolfhard] to be the next Daniel Day-Lewis....\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I mean, I have these desires for them to be the great actors of the next generation and I feel like that takes work. And it takes development. And it takes acting classes, even when you're paid a lot and well-respected for your acting. Even when it's good at a certain level, it still takes development of that tool.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> On how his career aspirations have changed over time\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, in the back of my mind, there was a draw to fame. I looked at the celebrities I grew up with—you know, Harrison Ford or Gene Hackman and these guys—and I looked at them as a sort of American royalty. And I remember feeling like I wanted to be a part of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then, as I've progressed along that line, it's become more and more apparent that my goal is to get messier. You know, I want to be the messy artist that I always dreamed of being when I was a kid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the audience's love and continued pursuit of justice for Barb, a character slain during Season 1\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's funny, I was just thinking about that the other day. She was such a great character. And it's so rare. 'Cuz I watch the season and ... I think each season gets better, especially this season, I think is so beautiful and epic and profound. And I was like, \"Oh, we can't get any better than this!\" And the only thing I thought was, \"I kind wish Barb was around...\" She makes everything a little better!\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR.\u003c/a>\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Stranger+Things%27+Star+David+Harbour+Will+Take+Messy+Over+Perfect+Any+Day&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"\"I've always been drawn to characters that are less-than capable, that make me feel not alone in my weirdness,\" Harbour says. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1562610200,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":981},"headData":{"title":"David Harbour on the 'Stranger Things' Kids, Being Jim Hopper and Missing Barb | KQED","description":""I've always been drawn to characters that are less-than capable, that make me feel not alone in my weirdness," Harbour says. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"112681 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=112681","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/07/08/david-harbour-on-the-stranger-things-kids-being-jim-hopper-and-missing-barb/","disqusTitle":"David Harbour on the 'Stranger Things' Kids, Being Jim Hopper and Missing Barb","nprByline":"Madeline Ducharme","nprImageAgency":"Courtesy of Netflix","nprStoryId":"737744057","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=737744057&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2019/07/04/737744057/stranger-things-star-david-harbour-will-take-messy-over-perfect-any-day?ft=nprml&f=737744057","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Thu, 04 Jul 2019 13:25:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Thu, 04 Jul 2019 05:18:00 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Thu, 04 Jul 2019 13:25:33 -0400","nprAudio":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2019/07/20190704_me_stranger_things_star_david_harbour_will_take_messy_over_perfect_any_day.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1138&d=424&p=3&story=737744057&ft=nprml&f=737744057","nprAudioM3u":"http://api.npr.org/m3u/1738724423-ad152b.m3u?orgId=1&topicId=1138&d=424&p=3&story=737744057&ft=nprml&f=737744057","audioTrackLength":424,"path":"/pop/112681/david-harbour-on-the-stranger-things-kids-being-jim-hopper-and-missing-barb","audioUrl":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2019/07/20190704_me_stranger_things_star_david_harbour_will_take_messy_over_perfect_any_day.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1138&d=424&p=3&story=737744057&ft=nprml&f=737744057","parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In \u003cem>Stranger Things 3\u003c/em>, the citizens of the fictitious town of Hawkins, Ind., have a turbulent Fourth of July ahead of them. But the unconventional teenage protagonists of the show, led by grumpy police chief Jim Hopper, are ready for the challenge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hopper is played by David Harbour, a veteran actor who began his career more than 20 years ago. He found success on stage, TV and film, but Harbour didn't land a breakout role until the '80s nostalgia-fueled, sci-fi adventure came along.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thanks to the show's cult following, Hopper has become a character so beloved that he's \u003ca href=\"https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-harbour-senior-high-school-photos-viral_n_5a59f0cce4b03c418965ece0\">appeared in one fan's senior photos\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://news.avclub.com/david-harbour-honors-retweets-officiates-wedding-in-ch-1829105885\">officiated a real wedding.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first two seasons of the Netflix hit saw Hopper as an unlikely hero: a curmudgeon coping with immense personal loss and perpetually disgruntled by the kids in town.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This season, Hopper is the adoptive father of Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown), a teenage girl with other-worldly capabilities and her first boyfriend, Mike (played by Finn Wolfhard). But, before anyone can stress about the throes of young love, the teens and Hopper are tasked with saving Hawkins (and the world) from the dangerous paranormal forces of an alternate universe known as the Upside Down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Harbour understands the allure of the dashing, leading man roles, he also believes that imperfect characters, like Hopper, offer actors the chance to shine a light on the weirdos of the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Balancing the chief's rougher edges with his growing tendency toward tenderness is one of Harbour's favorite parts of this season. He hopes his fallible and complicated characters speak to real human experiences and ultimately help his audiences learn deeper empathy for others. It's a theme he touched on \u003ca href=\"https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/news/a42519/david-harbour-stranger-things-sag-award-speech/\">in an acceptance speech\u003c/a> he gave at the SAG awards in 2017.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are united in that we are all human beings and we are all together on this horrible, painful, joyous, exciting, and mysterious ride that is being alive,\" he said. \"Now, as we act in the continuing narrative of \u003cem>Stranger Things,\u003c/em> we 1983 Midwesterners will repel bullies. We will shelter freaks and outcasts, those who have no homes. We will get past the lies. We will hunt monsters.\u003cem>\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/XcnHOQ-cHa0'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/XcnHOQ-cHa0'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Interview Highlights\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the types of characters he's drawn to\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's a temptation to be larger than life, to be more beautiful and more capable and I've always been drawn to characters that are less-than capable, that make me feel not alone in my weirdness, in the fact that I don't always fit in, in the fact that I don't always do the right thing. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That sort of mess I want to bring to the screen so that people can maybe feel deeper empathy for others. We're all a bit of a mess. I mean, we're all kind of chaotically struggling to get through this life in various forms and there's a lot of joy in that, and a lot of sadness, and a lot of all kinds of different emotions. So, I've always wanted to portray that much more than to be someone who people looked at as perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On watching his young co-stars grow up\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[In this season,] you watch the kids grow up in real time. And you feel the passage of time, more strongly than anything you could write or act....\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I mean, it's very strange. And like, I sort of mirror Hopper in a sense where I started off with them trying to be very separate, you know, even with my work, I just wanted to be apart from them. And then as the show grows and they grow and they become more of who they are, we've gotten closer and closer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_112686\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-112686\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Jim Hopper on the case, Season 3, 'Stranger Things'.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-768x432.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/07/2dcaabd0-812e-11e9-a01d-9b31871e8d95.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jim Hopper on the case, Season 3, 'Stranger Things'. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Netflix)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the advice he gives to the teen actors on \u003c/strong>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>Stranger Things\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think that as young artists, they're getting so much success and ... I want Millie [Bobby Brown] to be the next Meryl Streep and I want Finn [Wolfhard] to be the next Daniel Day-Lewis....\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I mean, I have these desires for them to be the great actors of the next generation and I feel like that takes work. And it takes development. And it takes acting classes, even when you're paid a lot and well-respected for your acting. Even when it's good at a certain level, it still takes development of that tool.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> On how his career aspirations have changed over time\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, in the back of my mind, there was a draw to fame. I looked at the celebrities I grew up with—you know, Harrison Ford or Gene Hackman and these guys—and I looked at them as a sort of American royalty. And I remember feeling like I wanted to be a part of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then, as I've progressed along that line, it's become more and more apparent that my goal is to get messier. You know, I want to be the messy artist that I always dreamed of being when I was a kid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the audience's love and continued pursuit of justice for Barb, a character slain during Season 1\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's funny, I was just thinking about that the other day. She was such a great character. And it's so rare. 'Cuz I watch the season and ... I think each season gets better, especially this season, I think is so beautiful and epic and profound. And I was like, \"Oh, we can't get any better than this!\" And the only thing I thought was, \"I kind wish Barb was around...\" She makes everything a little better!\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR.\u003c/a>\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Stranger+Things%27+Star+David+Harbour+Will+Take+Messy+Over+Perfect+Any+Day&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/112681/david-harbour-on-the-stranger-things-kids-being-jim-hopper-and-missing-barb","authors":["byline_pop_112681"],"categories":["pop_3"],"tags":["pop_438","pop_2894"],"featImg":"pop_112682","label":"pop"},"pop_110464":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_110464","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"110464","score":null,"sort":[1553111527000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-stranger-things-season-3-trailer-is-here-and-it-is-totally-tubular","title":"The 'Stranger Things' Season 3 Trailer Is Here And It Is Totally Tubular","publishDate":1553111527,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>One of the major appeals of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> has always been how darn '80s it is. Stylistically, the Netflix series has been \u003cem>E.T\u003c/em>. meets \u003cem>The Goonies\u003c/em> meets Stephen King from the get-go. Those of us who grew up in that decade know the joy of a Ghostbusters costume, the pain of Barb's oversized eyeglasses and the convenience of the Walkman. While Season 2 upped the fashion ante with Eleven's shoulder-padded New Wave makeover, Season 3 is promising to take things to the next level. Come with us as we enjoy all the most gloriously '80s elements of the new trailer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mötley Crüe's 1985 hit, \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmrh42foUsg\">Home Sweet Home\u003c/a>,\" playing on this beast:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110468\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM-800x397.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"397\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM-800x397.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM-160x79.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM-768x381.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM.png 828w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dustin's toys—including an R2-D2, an Ultra Magnus Transformer and a G.I. Joe tank:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110467\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM-800x527.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"527\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM-800x527.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM-160x105.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM-768x506.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM.png 835w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dustin's Farrah Fawcett hairspray (which was a \u003ca href=\"http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1414216\">real\u003c/a> thing):\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110470\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-800x482.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"482\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-800x482.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-160x96.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-768x462.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-1020x614.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM.png 1121w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This homemade antenna which is totally reminiscent of E.T. and Elliott phoning home:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110472\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-800x476.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"476\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-800x476.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-160x95.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-768x457.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-1020x608.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM.png 1135w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This beautifully tousled mullet:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110473\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.03.22-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"655\" height=\"411\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.03.22-PM.png 655w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.03.22-PM-160x100.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 655px) 100vw, 655px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mall culture:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110475\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.06.33-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"668\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.06.33-PM.png 668w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.06.33-PM-160x93.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 668px) 100vw, 668px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>...and all of the shocking pink neon that came with that:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110474\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.07.45-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"732\" height=\"413\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.07.45-PM.png 732w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.07.45-PM-160x90.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 732px) 100vw, 732px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every single one of these outfits:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110478\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-800x372.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"372\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-800x372.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-160x74.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-768x357.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-1020x474.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-1200x558.png 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM.png 1271w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And these outfits:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110479\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM-800x364.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"364\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM-800x364.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM-160x73.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM-768x349.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM.png 912w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And \u003cem>definitely\u003c/em> these outfits:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110476\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/stranger-things-season-3-trailer-breakdown-700x314.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"314\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/stranger-things-season-3-trailer-breakdown-700x314.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/stranger-things-season-3-trailer-breakdown-700x314-160x72.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To revel in all of this nostalgic glory—plus at least one brand new monster—watch the trailer in full:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Am4v0C_z8c\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Season 3 of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> arrives on Netflix, July 4, 2019.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A look at the most gloriously '80s elements of the Season 3 trailer of 'Stranger Things.'","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1553111527,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":237},"headData":{"title":"The 'Stranger Things' Season 3 Trailer Is Here And It Is Totally Tubular | KQED","description":"A look at the most gloriously '80s elements of the Season 3 trailer of 'Stranger Things.'","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"110464 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=110464","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/03/20/the-stranger-things-season-3-trailer-is-here-and-it-is-totally-tubular/","disqusTitle":"The 'Stranger Things' Season 3 Trailer Is Here And It Is Totally Tubular","path":"/pop/110464/the-stranger-things-season-3-trailer-is-here-and-it-is-totally-tubular","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>One of the major appeals of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> has always been how darn '80s it is. Stylistically, the Netflix series has been \u003cem>E.T\u003c/em>. meets \u003cem>The Goonies\u003c/em> meets Stephen King from the get-go. Those of us who grew up in that decade know the joy of a Ghostbusters costume, the pain of Barb's oversized eyeglasses and the convenience of the Walkman. While Season 2 upped the fashion ante with Eleven's shoulder-padded New Wave makeover, Season 3 is promising to take things to the next level. Come with us as we enjoy all the most gloriously '80s elements of the new trailer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mötley Crüe's 1985 hit, \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmrh42foUsg\">Home Sweet Home\u003c/a>,\" playing on this beast:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110468\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM-800x397.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"397\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM-800x397.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM-160x79.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM-768x381.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.29.35-AM.png 828w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dustin's toys—including an R2-D2, an Ultra Magnus Transformer and a G.I. Joe tank:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110467\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM-800x527.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"527\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM-800x527.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM-160x105.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM-768x506.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.33.14-AM.png 835w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dustin's Farrah Fawcett hairspray (which was a \u003ca href=\"http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1414216\">real\u003c/a> thing):\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110470\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-800x482.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"482\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-800x482.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-160x96.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-768x462.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM-1020x614.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-11.41.43-AM.png 1121w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This homemade antenna which is totally reminiscent of E.T. and Elliott phoning home:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110472\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-800x476.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"476\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-800x476.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-160x95.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-768x457.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM-1020x608.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.00.32-PM.png 1135w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This beautifully tousled mullet:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110473\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.03.22-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"655\" height=\"411\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.03.22-PM.png 655w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.03.22-PM-160x100.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 655px) 100vw, 655px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mall culture:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110475\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.06.33-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"668\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.06.33-PM.png 668w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.06.33-PM-160x93.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 668px) 100vw, 668px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>...and all of the shocking pink neon that came with that:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110474\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.07.45-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"732\" height=\"413\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.07.45-PM.png 732w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.07.45-PM-160x90.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 732px) 100vw, 732px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every single one of these outfits:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110478\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-800x372.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"372\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-800x372.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-160x74.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-768x357.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-1020x474.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM-1200x558.png 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.12.48-PM.png 1271w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And these outfits:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110479\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM-800x364.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"364\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM-800x364.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM-160x73.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM-768x349.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-20-at-12.14.23-PM.png 912w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And \u003cem>definitely\u003c/em> these outfits:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110476\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/stranger-things-season-3-trailer-breakdown-700x314.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"314\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/stranger-things-season-3-trailer-breakdown-700x314.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/03/stranger-things-season-3-trailer-breakdown-700x314-160x72.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To revel in all of this nostalgic glory—plus at least one brand new monster—watch the trailer in full:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/6Am4v0C_z8c'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/6Am4v0C_z8c'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Season 3 of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> arrives on Netflix, July 4, 2019.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/110464/the-stranger-things-season-3-trailer-is-here-and-it-is-totally-tubular","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_3"],"tags":["pop_1145","pop_3426","pop_3341","pop_438","pop_595","pop_2894"],"featImg":"pop_110481","label":"pop"},"pop_97635":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_97635","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"97635","score":null,"sort":[1511950932000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-stranger-things-and-a-young-mary-j-blige-have-in-common","title":"What 'Stranger Things' and a Young Mary J. Blige Have in Common","publishDate":1511950932,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/thecooler/2017/11/StrangerJBlige.mp3\" title=\"What 'Stranger Things' and a Young Mary J. Blige Have in Common\" program=\"The Cooler\" image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/03/clo.jpg\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"aligncenter\">\n\u003cdiv>\u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/DownloadOniTunes_100x100.png\" width=\"75px\">\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://play.google.com/music/m/Ig3hk6qa4fzcgjp2kagptfgu4u4?t=The_Cooler\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/Google_Play_100x100.png\" width=\"75px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/div>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, Carly and I \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2016/09/08/can-disagreeing-over-stranger-things-lead-to-divorce-probably/\">duked it out over whether \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> is a good show or not\u003c/a>. This year, Jamedra breaks the tie at last.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/11/tie-breaker-winner-boxing.gif\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-97670\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/11/tie-breaker-winner-boxing.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"572\" height=\"320\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Have you ever wondered what sex rehabs frequented by rich people like Harvey Weinstein are like? 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And find us on \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/KQED-Pop-336039936485067/timeline/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/kqedpop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter\u003c/a>!\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/97635/what-stranger-things-and-a-young-mary-j-blige-have-in-common","authors":["27"],"categories":["pop_2793"],"tags":["pop_2894","pop_2859"],"featImg":"pop_97669","label":"pop"},"pop_35764":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_35764","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"35764","score":null,"sort":[1473859253000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"counterpoint-stranger-things-isnt-that-good","title":"Hear Me Out... 'Stranger Things' Is Not That Good","publishDate":1473859253,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>This 2016 story was inspired by an episode of \u003ca href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Cooler\u003c/a>, KQED’s gone-but-not-forgotten pop culture podcast that ended in 2020. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(\u003cstrong>Note:\u003c/strong> Spoilers for Season 1 of \u003c/span>\u003c/em>Stranger Things\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> abound in this article.)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the past few months—and friend, given 2016’s track record so far, you could certainly be forgiven for retreating there—it was the summer of \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stranger Things\u003c/a>\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After an intense few months of teasing hype, Netflix’s 8-episode homage to the 1980s scifi-horror-fantasy cinematic landscape came as close to “watercooler TV” as non-TV can upon its release. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>’ plot, look and feel all resemble a big blend of \u003cem>E.T.\u003c/em>, \u003cem>The Goonies\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Poltergeist\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Nightmare on Elm Street\u003c/em> and every Stephen King miniseries you ever saw, it is—and that’s decidedly the point.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnd7sFt5c3A\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The show’s creators, twins Matt and Ross Duffer (aka The Duffer Brothers) have been completely open in their intentions to make \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> a loving, detail-oriented homage to the movies they love—and it’s for this that the show has been so lauded by fans. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And honestly, that’s a big, big problem: for this show, for pop culture in general and more.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Let’s get this out of the way: The near-universal adoration heaped on this show by its binge-watching viewers makes any criticism seem like a willful attempt at flying in the face of the zeitgeist. And there’s nothing \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">actually\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> wrong with nostalgia, or enjoying revisiting the cultural pleasures of your past. (God knows that my colleagues and I on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">KQED’s \u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Cooler\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> podcast wax lyrical about our nostalgic obsessions from our young adulthood on most episodes, from \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Clueless\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> to \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Carmen: A Hip-Hopera\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.) \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s also nothing wrong with creativity that nods to the past. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36432\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36432 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-400x200.jpg\" alt=\"Plucky young kids being plucky in Stranger Things\" width=\"400\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-400x200.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-800x400.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-768x384.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-1440x720.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-1920x960.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-1180x590.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-960x480.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Plucky young kids being plucky in \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>. (Photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’d also like to acknowledge this: I \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">liked\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> watching \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>. As an homage to the 1980s young’uns-in-peril horror genre, it’s stunningly rendered—from its pitch-perfect visuals (matte, dark) to its superb soundtrack. The acting, particularly from the youngest members of its cast and Matt Harbour as the haunted town sheriff, is fantastic. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But the problem comes when a screen creation is predicated entirely upon nostalgia—and the feelings it provokes. For all its surface-level strengths, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is essentially an 8 episode mood board, with a plot retrofitted to accommodate it. Its pleasures, while enjoyable in the moment, vanish as soon as they’ve left the screen, resulting in a show that is a high to consume but is ultimately fatally lacking in substance. It borrows its characters, plots and atmospheric beats wholesale from the 1980s supernatural classics that inspired it—but instead of creating something fresh and surprising, produces only a perfectly-smooth pastiche supercut of those movies. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36433\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36433 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-400x267.jpg\" alt=\"High school is a cruel place in Stranger Things\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">High school is a cruel place in Stranger Things. (Photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The more you know about the development of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>, the harder it is to deny this. Needing a trailer to pitch the series to Netflix, the Duffer Brothers \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2016/08/19/490671346/stranger-things-creators-on-barb-eleven-and-how-glitter-delayed-productionhttp://www.npr.org/2016/08/19/490671346/stranger-things-creators-on-barb-eleven-and-how-glitter-delayed-production\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">literally made a supercut to demonstrate their intentions\u003c/a>—comprised of clips from the very '80s movies they wanted to borrow from. Furthermore, the show came into being after the duo were \u003ca href=\"http://moviepilot.com/posts/4027804\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">turned down for the job of remaking Stephen King’s creep-fest\u003cem> IT\u003c/em>\u003c/a>. For those of you who’ve watched that still-scary 1990 miniseries, with its band of resourceful, bullied kids in a small town facing down a supernatural horror from another dimension that wants to consume them—tell me that these two didn’t just go and basically remake it anyway in the form of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things?\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">None of this would be an issue if this show sought to create anything fresh or surprising from its myriad references—but it simply doesn’t. Paying genuine tribute to a creative force involves more than putting on their clothes. Otherwise all we’re getting is the karaoke version. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And as \u003ca href=\"http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/13/stranger-things-review\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Entertainment Weekly\u003c/em>’s Jeff Jensen observes\u003c/a>, the characters of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> are\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> literally wearing someone else’s clothes,\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> from teen heroine Nancy in her pajamas that are a dead ringer for those worn in \u003cem>Nightmare on Elm Street\u003c/em> by the character, uh, Nancy, from the little tot that’s styled to be a dead-ringer for Drew Barrymore’s Gertie in \u003cem>E.T.\u003c/em>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36434\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36434 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960-400x225.jpg\" alt=\"Winona Ryder as Joyce Byers in Stranger Things (Photo: Netflix)\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960-768x432.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Winona Ryder as Joyce Byers in 'Stranger Things' (Photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Plot-wise, \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>’ heaviest debt is probably to the incomparable \u003ca href=\"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084516/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Poltergeist\u003c/em>\u003c/a> (1982)—a child sucked into the demonic netherworld, communicating with a distraught, determined mother through household appliances. Yet why would this show’s creators seem so utterly disinterested in doing anything dramatically new with the subject matter? (And no, swapping out holiday lights for a static-filled TV doesn’t count.) \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s not just the derivativeness that irks; it’s the way that, when \u003cem>Stranger Thing\u003c/em>s nods most to \u003cem>Poltergeist,\u003c/em> its emotional themes lose all their power. How can I, as a viewer, hear Winona Ryder begging her missing son to communicate with her in the \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">exact\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> same way that \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXDdGan2kdQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">JoBeth Williams cries for Carol Anne in \u003cem>Poltergeist\u003c/em>\u003c/a>—in some moments, word-for-word—and still be moved by anything that’s taking place? That’s line-reading, not acting. (Or to borrow an earlier analogy: It’s karaoke, not singing.)\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36439\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36439 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/poltergeist-dominique-dunne-jobeth-williams-craig-t-nelson-oliver-robins-beatrice-straight-400x216.jpg\" alt=\"JoBeth Williams and the cast of Poltergeist (photo: MGM)\" width=\"400\" height=\"216\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/poltergeist-dominique-dunne-jobeth-williams-craig-t-nelson-oliver-robins-beatrice-straight-400x216.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/poltergeist-dominique-dunne-jobeth-williams-craig-t-nelson-oliver-robins-beatrice-straight.jpg 656w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">JoBeth Williams and the cast of Poltergeist (Photo: MGM)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The way \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> limits itself in its tributes goes beyond plot and script. It's also evident in its musical choices, which seem to be more concerned with making sure the lyrics in question match what’s being seen on screen. The opening lines of \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EdUjlawLJM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Joy Division’s \"Atmosphere\"\u003c/a>—“Don’t walk away in silence”—play over an emotionally-fraught scene in which someone \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">literally\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> walks away in silence. \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K94QvVXoHCY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"Bargain Store\" by Dolly Parton\u003c/a> accompanies characters Nancy and Jonathan on a mission to purchase an arsenal of weaponry for an affordable price at at army surplus store. Overwrought emo-synth classic \"Sunglasses at Night\"—about spying on your probably-cheating girlfriend—plays as series heartthrob Steve drives out to… you get the picture. As presumably-highly-considered artistic choices, they’re weirdly literal ones, in the “everything is explicit” way you might expect from a reality TV show.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36435\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36435 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture-400x223.png\" alt=\"Millie Bobby Brown and Finn Wolfhard in Stranger Things. (Photo: Netflix)\" width=\"400\" height=\"223\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture-400x223.png 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture-800x447.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture-768x429.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture.png 829w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Millie Bobby Brown and Finn Wolfhard in Stranger Things. (Photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The killer evidence here, as much as it pains me to write this, is Winona Ryder. Her casting was promoted as the ultimate demonstration of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">’ commitment to its 1980s vision (“Look, we even have Winona!”). Yet her casting is \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">such\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> a meta-nod to the people who grew up watching and idolizing her—wanting to be her or be with her—that it actually interferes with the concept of her character, who is ostensibly the emotional lynchpin of the entire enterprise. Joyce Byers was \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2016/08/19/490671346/stranger-things-creators-on-barb-eleven-and-how-glitter-delayed-production\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">originally written as a chain-smoking, tough-talking Long Island mother\u003c/a>, but was rewritten once Ryder came aboard. (This bears repeating: The show’s creators changed almost everything about a key character so that they could have Winona Ryder play her.) And accordingly, this utterly pivotal character ends up being… Winona Ryder.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36440\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36440 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/qmapoqgkzdroftarfe0o-400x213.png\" alt=\"Winona Ryder in Stranger Things (photo: Netflix)\" width=\"400\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/qmapoqgkzdroftarfe0o-400x213.png 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/qmapoqgkzdroftarfe0o.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/qmapoqgkzdroftarfe0o-768x409.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Winona Ryder in Stranger Things (photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You might ask: Who \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">cares\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> if \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is a purel pleasurable karaoke version of 1980s sci-fi horror (or to quote \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/emilyyoshida/status/762469349143683073\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Emily Yoshida of \u003cem>The Verge\u003c/em>’s astute tweet analysis\u003c/a>, “a really slickly executed ganache without any cake inside”)? \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To which I’d answer: When a pop culture phenomenon achieves its success by co-opting nostalgia—while failing to question that very nostalgia—it misses the point. And when we unquestioningly consume it, we’re missing the point too. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because one thing \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> really gets wrong is that the sci-fi horror it’s paying homage to was \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">scary\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. This show is many things, but can anyone really say that it truly scared them? \u003cem>Poltergeist\u003c/em>, the movie it unabashedly borrows from most heavily, understood that the power of its child-in-peril story was rooted in the need for that peril to be truly, deliciously scary. \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> is so busy trying to present a perfect facsimile of a 1983 horror that it forgets to be... horrific.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36436\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36436 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-400x225.jpg\" alt=\"Jessica Pare and Jon Hamm in Mad Men. (Photo: Michael Yarish/AMC)\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-800x449.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-768x431.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-1180x663.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-960x539.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jessica Pare and Jon Hamm in Mad Men. (Photo: Michael Yarish/AMC)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The perfect exemplar of this might be \u003ca href=\"http://www.amc.com/shows/mad-men\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em>\u003c/a>. Initially embraced as a super-stylish evocation of a super-stylish time and place (New York on the cusp of the 1960s), this show’s value beyond its look and feel became clear very quickly. \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> succeeded and endured in the way it used its setting not as its reason to be, but as the jump-off point for an unbelievably considered, almost unbearably empathetic examination of the traps of being human.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> was \u003ci>not\u003c/i> was a mere sexy-suits-and-stylish-gals ‘60s shagfest—a fact so many of its vastly inferior TV copycats failed to realize in their rush to get commissioned. One of the crappiest copycats was the swiftly-canceled Christina Ricci vehicle \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_(TV_series)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Pan Am\u003c/a>,\u003c/em> a show set in the whirlwind world of 1960s air stewardessing, and so embarrassingly brazen in its desire to co-opt some reflected \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> glory that it totally failed to grasp what elevated that show above mere '60s cosplay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36438\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36438 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-400x225.jpg\" alt=\"The cast of Pam Am (photo: ABC)\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-768x432.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The cast of Pan Am (photo: ABC)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that—what happens when pop culture serves up empty nostalgia without stopping to question it—is why we get \u003cem>Pan Am\u003c/em> instead of \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em>. Or \u003cem>Stranger Things,\u003c/em> instead of the show many of us wanted it to be: a smart, critical take on the 1980s visual culture that it merely winds up cloning. Pop culture, so often derided as inconsequential distraction from the “real stuff,” is always the mirror that reflects the way we’re living and thinking now. In 2016—when fetishizing the past is a reflex, and people talk unironically of making America \"great again\"—could there be a more suitable year to be curious and critical in how we think about, and live with, the past in our present—and demand that our entertainment does the same?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Want even more \u003c/em>Stranger Things\u003cem> thoughts and feelings? Give this episode of \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Cooler\u003c/a>\u003cem> a listen:\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/281927627&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"What 'Stranger Things' gets wrong about the very 1980s pop culture it's riffing on.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1653677373,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":1840},"headData":{"title":"Hear Me Out... 'Stranger Things' Is Not That Good - KQED Pop","description":"What 'Stranger Things' gets wrong about the very 1980s pop culture it's riffing on.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"35764 http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=35764","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2016/09/14/counterpoint-stranger-things-isnt-that-good/","disqusTitle":"Hear Me Out... 'Stranger Things' Is Not That Good","customPermalink":"stranger-things-and-the-problem-of-nostalgia-as-entertainment/","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/pop/35764/counterpoint-stranger-things-isnt-that-good","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>This 2016 story was inspired by an episode of \u003ca href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Cooler\u003c/a>, KQED’s gone-but-not-forgotten pop culture podcast that ended in 2020. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">(\u003cstrong>Note:\u003c/strong> Spoilers for Season 1 of \u003c/span>\u003c/em>Stranger Things\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> abound in this article.)\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the past few months—and friend, given 2016’s track record so far, you could certainly be forgiven for retreating there—it was the summer of \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stranger Things\u003c/a>\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After an intense few months of teasing hype, Netflix’s 8-episode homage to the 1980s scifi-horror-fantasy cinematic landscape came as close to “watercooler TV” as non-TV can upon its release. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>’ plot, look and feel all resemble a big blend of \u003cem>E.T.\u003c/em>, \u003cem>The Goonies\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Poltergeist\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Nightmare on Elm Street\u003c/em> and every Stephen King miniseries you ever saw, it is—and that’s decidedly the point.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/mnd7sFt5c3A'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/mnd7sFt5c3A'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The show’s creators, twins Matt and Ross Duffer (aka The Duffer Brothers) have been completely open in their intentions to make \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> a loving, detail-oriented homage to the movies they love—and it’s for this that the show has been so lauded by fans. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And honestly, that’s a big, big problem: for this show, for pop culture in general and more.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Let’s get this out of the way: The near-universal adoration heaped on this show by its binge-watching viewers makes any criticism seem like a willful attempt at flying in the face of the zeitgeist. And there’s nothing \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">actually\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> wrong with nostalgia, or enjoying revisiting the cultural pleasures of your past. (God knows that my colleagues and I on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">KQED’s \u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Cooler\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> podcast wax lyrical about our nostalgic obsessions from our young adulthood on most episodes, from \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Clueless\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> to \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Carmen: A Hip-Hopera\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.) \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s also nothing wrong with creativity that nods to the past. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36432\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36432 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-400x200.jpg\" alt=\"Plucky young kids being plucky in Stranger Things\" width=\"400\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-400x200.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-800x400.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-768x384.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-1440x720.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-1920x960.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-1180x590.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies-960x480.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/header3-stranger-things-80s-movies.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Plucky young kids being plucky in \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>. (Photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’d also like to acknowledge this: I \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">liked\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> watching \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>. As an homage to the 1980s young’uns-in-peril horror genre, it’s stunningly rendered—from its pitch-perfect visuals (matte, dark) to its superb soundtrack. The acting, particularly from the youngest members of its cast and Matt Harbour as the haunted town sheriff, is fantastic. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But the problem comes when a screen creation is predicated entirely upon nostalgia—and the feelings it provokes. For all its surface-level strengths, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is essentially an 8 episode mood board, with a plot retrofitted to accommodate it. Its pleasures, while enjoyable in the moment, vanish as soon as they’ve left the screen, resulting in a show that is a high to consume but is ultimately fatally lacking in substance. It borrows its characters, plots and atmospheric beats wholesale from the 1980s supernatural classics that inspired it—but instead of creating something fresh and surprising, produces only a perfectly-smooth pastiche supercut of those movies. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36433\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36433 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-400x267.jpg\" alt=\"High school is a cruel place in Stranger Things\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/stranger-things-01_0.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">High school is a cruel place in Stranger Things. (Photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The more you know about the development of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>, the harder it is to deny this. Needing a trailer to pitch the series to Netflix, the Duffer Brothers \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2016/08/19/490671346/stranger-things-creators-on-barb-eleven-and-how-glitter-delayed-productionhttp://www.npr.org/2016/08/19/490671346/stranger-things-creators-on-barb-eleven-and-how-glitter-delayed-production\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">literally made a supercut to demonstrate their intentions\u003c/a>—comprised of clips from the very '80s movies they wanted to borrow from. Furthermore, the show came into being after the duo were \u003ca href=\"http://moviepilot.com/posts/4027804\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">turned down for the job of remaking Stephen King’s creep-fest\u003cem> IT\u003c/em>\u003c/a>. For those of you who’ve watched that still-scary 1990 miniseries, with its band of resourceful, bullied kids in a small town facing down a supernatural horror from another dimension that wants to consume them—tell me that these two didn’t just go and basically remake it anyway in the form of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things?\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">None of this would be an issue if this show sought to create anything fresh or surprising from its myriad references—but it simply doesn’t. Paying genuine tribute to a creative force involves more than putting on their clothes. Otherwise all we’re getting is the karaoke version. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And as \u003ca href=\"http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/13/stranger-things-review\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Entertainment Weekly\u003c/em>’s Jeff Jensen observes\u003c/a>, the characters of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> are\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> literally wearing someone else’s clothes,\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> from teen heroine Nancy in her pajamas that are a dead ringer for those worn in \u003cem>Nightmare on Elm Street\u003c/em> by the character, uh, Nancy, from the little tot that’s styled to be a dead-ringer for Drew Barrymore’s Gertie in \u003cem>E.T.\u003c/em>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36434\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36434 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960-400x225.jpg\" alt=\"Winona Ryder as Joyce Byers in Stranger Things (Photo: Netflix)\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960-768x432.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/960.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Winona Ryder as Joyce Byers in 'Stranger Things' (Photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Plot-wise, \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>’ heaviest debt is probably to the incomparable \u003ca href=\"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084516/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Poltergeist\u003c/em>\u003c/a> (1982)—a child sucked into the demonic netherworld, communicating with a distraught, determined mother through household appliances. Yet why would this show’s creators seem so utterly disinterested in doing anything dramatically new with the subject matter? (And no, swapping out holiday lights for a static-filled TV doesn’t count.) \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s not just the derivativeness that irks; it’s the way that, when \u003cem>Stranger Thing\u003c/em>s nods most to \u003cem>Poltergeist,\u003c/em> its emotional themes lose all their power. How can I, as a viewer, hear Winona Ryder begging her missing son to communicate with her in the \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">exact\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> same way that \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXDdGan2kdQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">JoBeth Williams cries for Carol Anne in \u003cem>Poltergeist\u003c/em>\u003c/a>—in some moments, word-for-word—and still be moved by anything that’s taking place? That’s line-reading, not acting. (Or to borrow an earlier analogy: It’s karaoke, not singing.)\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36439\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36439 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/poltergeist-dominique-dunne-jobeth-williams-craig-t-nelson-oliver-robins-beatrice-straight-400x216.jpg\" alt=\"JoBeth Williams and the cast of Poltergeist (photo: MGM)\" width=\"400\" height=\"216\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/poltergeist-dominique-dunne-jobeth-williams-craig-t-nelson-oliver-robins-beatrice-straight-400x216.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/poltergeist-dominique-dunne-jobeth-williams-craig-t-nelson-oliver-robins-beatrice-straight.jpg 656w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">JoBeth Williams and the cast of Poltergeist (Photo: MGM)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The way \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> limits itself in its tributes goes beyond plot and script. It's also evident in its musical choices, which seem to be more concerned with making sure the lyrics in question match what’s being seen on screen. The opening lines of \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EdUjlawLJM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Joy Division’s \"Atmosphere\"\u003c/a>—“Don’t walk away in silence”—play over an emotionally-fraught scene in which someone \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">literally\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> walks away in silence. \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K94QvVXoHCY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"Bargain Store\" by Dolly Parton\u003c/a> accompanies characters Nancy and Jonathan on a mission to purchase an arsenal of weaponry for an affordable price at at army surplus store. Overwrought emo-synth classic \"Sunglasses at Night\"—about spying on your probably-cheating girlfriend—plays as series heartthrob Steve drives out to… you get the picture. As presumably-highly-considered artistic choices, they’re weirdly literal ones, in the “everything is explicit” way you might expect from a reality TV show.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36435\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36435 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture-400x223.png\" alt=\"Millie Bobby Brown and Finn Wolfhard in Stranger Things. (Photo: Netflix)\" width=\"400\" height=\"223\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture-400x223.png 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture-800x447.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture-768x429.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/Capture.png 829w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Millie Bobby Brown and Finn Wolfhard in Stranger Things. (Photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The killer evidence here, as much as it pains me to write this, is Winona Ryder. Her casting was promoted as the ultimate demonstration of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">’ commitment to its 1980s vision (“Look, we even have Winona!”). Yet her casting is \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">such\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> a meta-nod to the people who grew up watching and idolizing her—wanting to be her or be with her—that it actually interferes with the concept of her character, who is ostensibly the emotional lynchpin of the entire enterprise. Joyce Byers was \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2016/08/19/490671346/stranger-things-creators-on-barb-eleven-and-how-glitter-delayed-production\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">originally written as a chain-smoking, tough-talking Long Island mother\u003c/a>, but was rewritten once Ryder came aboard. (This bears repeating: The show’s creators changed almost everything about a key character so that they could have Winona Ryder play her.) And accordingly, this utterly pivotal character ends up being… Winona Ryder.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36440\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36440 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/qmapoqgkzdroftarfe0o-400x213.png\" alt=\"Winona Ryder in Stranger Things (photo: Netflix)\" width=\"400\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/qmapoqgkzdroftarfe0o-400x213.png 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/qmapoqgkzdroftarfe0o.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/qmapoqgkzdroftarfe0o-768x409.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Winona Ryder in Stranger Things (photo: Netflix)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You might ask: Who \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">cares\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> if \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stranger Things\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is a purel pleasurable karaoke version of 1980s sci-fi horror (or to quote \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/emilyyoshida/status/762469349143683073\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Emily Yoshida of \u003cem>The Verge\u003c/em>’s astute tweet analysis\u003c/a>, “a really slickly executed ganache without any cake inside”)? \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To which I’d answer: When a pop culture phenomenon achieves its success by co-opting nostalgia—while failing to question that very nostalgia—it misses the point. And when we unquestioningly consume it, we’re missing the point too. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because one thing \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> really gets wrong is that the sci-fi horror it’s paying homage to was \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">scary\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. This show is many things, but can anyone really say that it truly scared them? \u003cem>Poltergeist\u003c/em>, the movie it unabashedly borrows from most heavily, understood that the power of its child-in-peril story was rooted in the need for that peril to be truly, deliciously scary. \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> is so busy trying to present a perfect facsimile of a 1983 horror that it forgets to be... horrific.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36436\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36436 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-400x225.jpg\" alt=\"Jessica Pare and Jon Hamm in Mad Men. (Photo: Michael Yarish/AMC)\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-800x449.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-768x431.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-1180x663.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85-960x539.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/cf4d2c6b-cdfe-dbd8-7aa7-5001c0aa7b25_mm_602_my_1107_1118_wide-f6713cebedf13c53a60f65664cbd7d71afb308c8-s1200-c85.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jessica Pare and Jon Hamm in Mad Men. (Photo: Michael Yarish/AMC)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The perfect exemplar of this might be \u003ca href=\"http://www.amc.com/shows/mad-men\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em>\u003c/a>. Initially embraced as a super-stylish evocation of a super-stylish time and place (New York on the cusp of the 1960s), this show’s value beyond its look and feel became clear very quickly. \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> succeeded and endured in the way it used its setting not as its reason to be, but as the jump-off point for an unbelievably considered, almost unbearably empathetic examination of the traps of being human.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> was \u003ci>not\u003c/i> was a mere sexy-suits-and-stylish-gals ‘60s shagfest—a fact so many of its vastly inferior TV copycats failed to realize in their rush to get commissioned. One of the crappiest copycats was the swiftly-canceled Christina Ricci vehicle \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_(TV_series)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Pan Am\u003c/a>,\u003c/em> a show set in the whirlwind world of 1960s air stewardessing, and so embarrassingly brazen in its desire to co-opt some reflected \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> glory that it totally failed to grasp what elevated that show above mere '60s cosplay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_36438\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-36438 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-400x225.jpg\" alt=\"The cast of Pam Am (photo: ABC)\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-768x432.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2016/09/maxresdefault.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The cast of Pan Am (photo: ABC)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that—what happens when pop culture serves up empty nostalgia without stopping to question it—is why we get \u003cem>Pan Am\u003c/em> instead of \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em>. Or \u003cem>Stranger Things,\u003c/em> instead of the show many of us wanted it to be: a smart, critical take on the 1980s visual culture that it merely winds up cloning. Pop culture, so often derided as inconsequential distraction from the “real stuff,” is always the mirror that reflects the way we’re living and thinking now. In 2016—when fetishizing the past is a reflex, and people talk unironically of making America \"great again\"—could there be a more suitable year to be curious and critical in how we think about, and live with, the past in our present—and demand that our entertainment does the same?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Want even more \u003c/em>Stranger Things\u003cem> thoughts and feelings? 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Less discussed -- except perhaps among a distinct, proud, self-identifying group commonly known as typography or font nerds -- is how a typeface choice can shape a reader's feelings about the text's meaning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Need proof? Just ask the \u003ca href=\"https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/im-comic-sans-asshole\" target=\"_blank\">black sheep of the font family, Comic Sans\u003c/a>. On the other end of the spectrum, one study showed that printing your manifesto in \u003ca href=\"http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/this-is-the-worlds-most-persuasive-font--eyzCcmjwwWb\" target=\"_blank\">Baskerville is your best bet\u003c/a> for getting followers to trust you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you want '80s nostalgia-riddled adults worldwide to look at a title sequence and suddenly be overcome by a swell of emotion toward the sci-fi novels and films of their youth? 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Because we’ve always hated ‘80s Steve-holes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the souffle-haired, BMW 733i-driving, Nancy-charming asshole who possesses a Trump-sized empathy streak for sensitive weirdos, Steve was supposed to follow the ‘80s arc of dying a miserable death — or at least not getting the girl in the end while cuddled up next to her in a f*cking reindeer sweater at Christmastime. Earning the heart of the smart female protagonist is a resolution that for years has been reserved for the sensitive guy bullied by the high school elite, not the smug preppy dude with a backyard pool. (Not to mention a guy who, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/eastwes/status/756616898461179904\" target=\"_blank\">as one astute Twitter commenter noted\u003c/a>, is coiffed to look like “all of Crowded House combined in one face.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-31674\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/07/giphy.gif\" alt=\"steve\" width=\"480\" height=\"239\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We wanted the phlegm-flower monster to serve Steve a bloody eel sandwich so Nancy could cuddle with Jonathan. Steve’s demise is our expected reward after watching him heartily pressure Nancy to appease so many early-in-the-\u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>-season boners and then go on to break Jonathan’s camera.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So why does Steve escape death while the \u003ca href=\"https://theringer.com/everyone-needs-a-friend-like-barb-a91b9937ba64?gi=dd2cf1e989bf\" target=\"_blank\">internet-beloved Barb \u003c/a>gets stuffed into an Upside Down coffin? The simple answer is the actor who plays Steve helped the character get a pass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an \u003ca href=\"http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/stranger-things-finale-duffer-brothers-interview-season-2-1201816664/\" target=\"_blank\">interview with \u003cem>Variety\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> showrunners the Duffer Brothers said Steve, who in the original pilot is “the biggest douchebag on the planet,” wasn’t supposed to be Nancy’s snuggle buddy in the end.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of credit goes to Joe Keery [who plays Steve], because he was much more likable and charming than we originally had envisioned,” said Ross Duffer. “Joe was so good we started to fall in love with the idea that he has an arc himself.” Nancy helped make Steve a slightly better person by the end. Dammit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matt Duffer added that in the typical movie world trajectory, Nancy (Natalia Dyer) would end up with the “nicer kinder gentler” guy Jonathan (Charlie Heaton). “But it felt almost more real to us that she would wind up back with Steve,” he said, “this heartthrob who she’s had a crush on for a long time. It’s surprising, but it felt more honest.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-31676\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/07/stranger-things.1.1.2566000.65.gif\" alt=\"stranger-things.1.1.2566000.65\" width=\"500\" height=\"250\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you run the \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> tape backwards you can — almost — see how Steve could come out on top. After all, he erases the Nancy slut-shaming graffiti (that he helped write!) and he fights the bad monster. He worked hard to change, and Jonathan \u003cem>was\u003c/em> being a creeper by taking those photos of Nancy stripping in the first place, so maybe Jonathan deserved to lose those photo privileges. But ‘80s movie history has hardwired \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> fans to loathe Steve nonetheless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why can’t we forgive Steve just because he hit the monster with a nail bat? Because there’ve been too many Steve-holes before him. Our movie history —and an election cycle with another bratty, souffle-haired bully — has taught us that elitist dickwads rarely become good guys by the end.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As proof of this bias, I hereby give you a brief history of the ‘80s high school jerks who paved the way for our hatred of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>’ Steve.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steff in \u003cem>Pretty in Pink\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35tfXSINbCQ\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the ‘80s, James Spader was the classic affluent douchebag fans loved to hate (and perhaps secretly crush out on). It all started with his breakout role as Steff in \u003cem>Pretty in Pink\u003c/em> — a movie where he calls Molly Ringwald’s artsy Andie a bitch, a mutant, trash, and “low-grade ass.” Steff is the perfect foil to blinky-eyed Blane (Andrew McCarthy), whose dick is caught in the typical ‘80s class divide (see also: Spader in \u003cem>Tuff Turf\u003c/em>) between what’s expected of him and what he really wants. Unlike Steve in \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>, Steff never redeems himself — he gets tackled by Andie’s BFF Duckie in the end.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Steff paved the way for Spader to graduate from high school prick to college-aged (but definitely not in college) drug dealer prick, Rip, in \u003cem>Less Than Zero\u003c/em>. Side note: Is it just me or did Spader seem to spend the ‘80s only acting in movies with either\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6gpndlepiM\" target=\"_blank\"> McCarthy or with Robert Downey Jr.\u003c/a>?)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All of William Zabka’s characters in the ‘80s asshole trilogy\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qco4RGHhJGo\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Along with James Spader, William Zabka was the other recognizable blonde ‘80s asshole. He’s perhaps best remembered for playing Johnny in the \u003cem>Karate Kid\u003c/em> series (\u003cem>Karate Kid II\u003c/em> was brilliantly parodied, starring Zabka and most of the original cast, in \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olQ3vaiv47I\" target=\"_blank\">this music video\u003c/a> by the band No More Kings). But Zabka was a dick in \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1egnKKkm54\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cem>Just One of the Guys\u003c/em> too\u003c/a>. He was righteously ridiculed in that one for being a table-tipper with a “small weenie,” among other things, before he aged into playing a college frat boy in \u003cem>Back to School\u003c/em>. In real life? Good dude! Last year \u003ca href=\"http://screencrush.com/billy-zabka-karate-kid-bully/\" target=\"_blank\">he came out against being an actual high school jerk during a talk he gave for Anti-Bullying Day\u003c/a>, in which he pointed to the fact that mean kids often come from broken homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Chet in \u003cem>Weird Science\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcUWG23hqvw\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the real “buttwad” in \u003cem>Weird Science\u003c/em>, older brother Chet (Bill Paxton) acted like the ultimate bro towards his younger brother Wyatt (IIan Michael-Smith) and his nerd pal Gary (Anthony Michael Hall). So it was very rewarding to watch the boys’ covergirl science experiment Lisa (Kelly LeBrock) turn Chet into a farting turd monster and hear Chet beg to get his human form (and dignity) back. (In comparison, \u003cem>Stranger Things'\u003c/em> Steve never had to beg for anything in his life — except sex!)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Roy Stalin in \u003cem>Better Off Dead\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfyjFmJ6KVs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Given the choice between the captain of the high school ski team and a regular dude who sticks Q-tips up his nose, who’s gonna be the ‘80s villain? The leader of a rich person’s sport, of course — a dichotomy that played out in real life for the director of this movie. \u003cem>Better Off Dead\u003c/em> writer and \u003ca href=\"http://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/000134.php\" target=\"_blank\">director Savage Steve Holland\u003c/a> said his film, which starred John Cusack, was based on his own heartbreak. Holland’s old girlfriend apparently also left him for the ski team captain. Holland recreated his romantic rival in Roy Stalin, a classic prick who, it turns out, was also a classic prick in real life during the casting process! \u003ca href=\"http://mentalfloss.com/article/75810/13-better-facts-about-better-dead\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cem>Mental Floss\u003c/em> reported\u003c/a> that actor Aaron Dozier insulted Holland on the set, sealing the deal that he’d be the perfect asshole for the part.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Biff in \u003cem>Back to the Future\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_DB6GgLQs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eighties antagonists often got monosyllabic names that you could spit out in a single breath: Steff. Chet. Roy. (Steve!). Add to this list Biff, a name that sounds like something a jock would grunt out while lifting weights. Biff is the beefy bro from the \u003cem>Back to the Future\u003c/em> series who makes Marty McFly feel like a “butthead” no matter which decade the two are contained within. If Thomas F. Wilson’s character seemed constructed after a certain Republican presidential candidate by \u003cem>Back to the Future II\u003c/em>, well, the man who wrote the movie, Bob Gale, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/21/how-back-to-the-future-predicted-trump.html\" target=\"_blank\">told the \u003cem>Daily Beast\u003c/em> last fall that Biff was indeed modeled after Donald Trump\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archie in \u003cem>The Chocolate War\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihXcPZ09_l4\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Boxes of chocolates may seem like a silly instigator for a class war, but in this great 1988 drama, they’re the symbol of the intense pressure a small group of assholes can put on teen introverts to toe the status quo. Archie leads the secret society dick clique at a Catholic school where hawking chocolate boxes for a fundraiser is serious business. New kid Jerry’s disinterest in showing school spirit lands him in a world of hurt. Side note: Like \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>, \u003cem>The Chocolate War\u003c/em> gets bonus points for a killer ‘80s soundtrack, one that here includes Yaz, Kate Bush, and Peter Gabriel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> Hardy Jenns in\u003cem> Some Kind of Wonderful\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTds2jCQHKA\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although Keith Nelson (Eric Stoltz) and Hardy Jenns (Craig Sheffer) share a Steve-hole ‘do in \u003cem>Some Kind of Wonderful\u003c/em>, don’t be fooled by the feathering when discerning who’s the good guy here. Hardy is the rich one, so he’s obviously also gonna be the jerk. When Keith falls for Hardy’s ex Amanda, Hardy’s revenge plot involves kicking Keith’s butt at a house party — until some cool punk dudes help put a stop to that one. This love triangle starring Lea Thompson as Amanda and Mary Stuart Masterson as the teenage rocker Watts was less about overcoming bullies, though, and more about loving the drummer girl over the fluff chick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem> Some Kind of Wonderful\u003c/em> was one of many ‘80s movies setting the tone that the coveted guy/girl would fall for the underdog girl/guy in the end — which is why we totally expected \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>’ Nancy to get with Jonathan at the end. But then, \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> is about both cleverly riffing on ‘80s cliches and subverting them at unexpected moments. We’ll also hopefully have \u003ca href=\"http://www.indiewire.com/2016/07/stranger-things-season-2-netflix-david-lynch-winona-ryder-1201710567/\" target=\"_blank\">a whole new season of the show \u003c/a>ahead of us -- during which time we can all root for Steve to finally meet the dismal fate the earlier Spader-Zapka generation of golden assholes would have him deserve.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Netflix hit 'Stranger Things' plays on -- then upends -- many cliches of the '80s. But when it comes to rich, popular and awful boyfriends, Steve can't escape his lineage. 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","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"31655 http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=31655","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2016/07/29/youre-an-idiot-steve-harrington-stranger-things-and-a-field-guide-to-classic-80s-jerkwads/","disqusTitle":"You're An Idiot, Steve Harrington: 'Stranger Things' and a Field Guide To Classic '80s Jerkwads","nprByline":"Jennifer Maerz","path":"/pop/31655/youre-an-idiot-steve-harrington-stranger-things-and-a-field-guide-to-classic-80s-jerkwads","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>[Warning: Spoilers ahead!]\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I assume that like most streaming TV fiends, you’ve devoured the entire season of\u003cem> Stranger Things\u003c/em>, Netflix’s addictive new Winona Ryder-starring thriller that craftily references the big sci-fi, horror, teen romance, and paranormal movies of the ‘80s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m also going to assume that, like \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/search?q=%20%23strangerthings%20steve&src=typd\" target=\"_blank\">most of Twitter\u003c/a> and all of my heart, you hate the Steve Harrington character. Because we’ve always hated ‘80s Steve-holes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the souffle-haired, BMW 733i-driving, Nancy-charming asshole who possesses a Trump-sized empathy streak for sensitive weirdos, Steve was supposed to follow the ‘80s arc of dying a miserable death — or at least not getting the girl in the end while cuddled up next to her in a f*cking reindeer sweater at Christmastime. Earning the heart of the smart female protagonist is a resolution that for years has been reserved for the sensitive guy bullied by the high school elite, not the smug preppy dude with a backyard pool. (Not to mention a guy who, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/eastwes/status/756616898461179904\" target=\"_blank\">as one astute Twitter commenter noted\u003c/a>, is coiffed to look like “all of Crowded House combined in one face.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-31674\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/07/giphy.gif\" alt=\"steve\" width=\"480\" height=\"239\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We wanted the phlegm-flower monster to serve Steve a bloody eel sandwich so Nancy could cuddle with Jonathan. Steve’s demise is our expected reward after watching him heartily pressure Nancy to appease so many early-in-the-\u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>-season boners and then go on to break Jonathan’s camera.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So why does Steve escape death while the \u003ca href=\"https://theringer.com/everyone-needs-a-friend-like-barb-a91b9937ba64?gi=dd2cf1e989bf\" target=\"_blank\">internet-beloved Barb \u003c/a>gets stuffed into an Upside Down coffin? The simple answer is the actor who plays Steve helped the character get a pass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an \u003ca href=\"http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/stranger-things-finale-duffer-brothers-interview-season-2-1201816664/\" target=\"_blank\">interview with \u003cem>Variety\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> showrunners the Duffer Brothers said Steve, who in the original pilot is “the biggest douchebag on the planet,” wasn’t supposed to be Nancy’s snuggle buddy in the end.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of credit goes to Joe Keery [who plays Steve], because he was much more likable and charming than we originally had envisioned,” said Ross Duffer. “Joe was so good we started to fall in love with the idea that he has an arc himself.” Nancy helped make Steve a slightly better person by the end. Dammit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matt Duffer added that in the typical movie world trajectory, Nancy (Natalia Dyer) would end up with the “nicer kinder gentler” guy Jonathan (Charlie Heaton). “But it felt almost more real to us that she would wind up back with Steve,” he said, “this heartthrob who she’s had a crush on for a long time. It’s surprising, but it felt more honest.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-31676\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/07/stranger-things.1.1.2566000.65.gif\" alt=\"stranger-things.1.1.2566000.65\" width=\"500\" height=\"250\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you run the \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> tape backwards you can — almost — see how Steve could come out on top. After all, he erases the Nancy slut-shaming graffiti (that he helped write!) and he fights the bad monster. He worked hard to change, and Jonathan \u003cem>was\u003c/em> being a creeper by taking those photos of Nancy stripping in the first place, so maybe Jonathan deserved to lose those photo privileges. But ‘80s movie history has hardwired \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> fans to loathe Steve nonetheless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why can’t we forgive Steve just because he hit the monster with a nail bat? Because there’ve been too many Steve-holes before him. Our movie history —and an election cycle with another bratty, souffle-haired bully — has taught us that elitist dickwads rarely become good guys by the end.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As proof of this bias, I hereby give you a brief history of the ‘80s high school jerks who paved the way for our hatred of \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>’ Steve.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steff in \u003cem>Pretty in Pink\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/35tfXSINbCQ'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/35tfXSINbCQ'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>In the ‘80s, James Spader was the classic affluent douchebag fans loved to hate (and perhaps secretly crush out on). It all started with his breakout role as Steff in \u003cem>Pretty in Pink\u003c/em> — a movie where he calls Molly Ringwald’s artsy Andie a bitch, a mutant, trash, and “low-grade ass.” Steff is the perfect foil to blinky-eyed Blane (Andrew McCarthy), whose dick is caught in the typical ‘80s class divide (see also: Spader in \u003cem>Tuff Turf\u003c/em>) between what’s expected of him and what he really wants. Unlike Steve in \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>, Steff never redeems himself — he gets tackled by Andie’s BFF Duckie in the end.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Steff paved the way for Spader to graduate from high school prick to college-aged (but definitely not in college) drug dealer prick, Rip, in \u003cem>Less Than Zero\u003c/em>. Side note: Is it just me or did Spader seem to spend the ‘80s only acting in movies with either\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6gpndlepiM\" target=\"_blank\"> McCarthy or with Robert Downey Jr.\u003c/a>?)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All of William Zabka’s characters in the ‘80s asshole trilogy\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/Qco4RGHhJGo'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/Qco4RGHhJGo'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Along with James Spader, William Zabka was the other recognizable blonde ‘80s asshole. He’s perhaps best remembered for playing Johnny in the \u003cem>Karate Kid\u003c/em> series (\u003cem>Karate Kid II\u003c/em> was brilliantly parodied, starring Zabka and most of the original cast, in \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olQ3vaiv47I\" target=\"_blank\">this music video\u003c/a> by the band No More Kings). But Zabka was a dick in \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1egnKKkm54\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cem>Just One of the Guys\u003c/em> too\u003c/a>. He was righteously ridiculed in that one for being a table-tipper with a “small weenie,” among other things, before he aged into playing a college frat boy in \u003cem>Back to School\u003c/em>. In real life? Good dude! 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So it was very rewarding to watch the boys’ covergirl science experiment Lisa (Kelly LeBrock) turn Chet into a farting turd monster and hear Chet beg to get his human form (and dignity) back. 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Holland recreated his romantic rival in Roy Stalin, a classic prick who, it turns out, was also a classic prick in real life during the casting process! \u003ca href=\"http://mentalfloss.com/article/75810/13-better-facts-about-better-dead\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cem>Mental Floss\u003c/em> reported\u003c/a> that actor Aaron Dozier insulted Holland on the set, sealing the deal that he’d be the perfect asshole for the part.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Biff in \u003cem>Back to the Future\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/95_DB6GgLQs'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/95_DB6GgLQs'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Eighties antagonists often got monosyllabic names that you could spit out in a single breath: Steff. Chet. Roy. (Steve!). Add to this list Biff, a name that sounds like something a jock would grunt out while lifting weights. Biff is the beefy bro from the \u003cem>Back to the Future\u003c/em> series who makes Marty McFly feel like a “butthead” no matter which decade the two are contained within. If Thomas F. Wilson’s character seemed constructed after a certain Republican presidential candidate by \u003cem>Back to the Future II\u003c/em>, well, the man who wrote the movie, Bob Gale, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/21/how-back-to-the-future-predicted-trump.html\" target=\"_blank\">told the \u003cem>Daily Beast\u003c/em> last fall that Biff was indeed modeled after Donald Trump\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archie in \u003cem>The Chocolate War\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/ihXcPZ09_l4'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/ihXcPZ09_l4'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Boxes of chocolates may seem like a silly instigator for a class war, but in this great 1988 drama, they’re the symbol of the intense pressure a small group of assholes can put on teen introverts to toe the status quo. Archie leads the secret society dick clique at a Catholic school where hawking chocolate boxes for a fundraiser is serious business. New kid Jerry’s disinterest in showing school spirit lands him in a world of hurt. Side note: Like \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>, \u003cem>The Chocolate War\u003c/em> gets bonus points for a killer ‘80s soundtrack, one that here includes Yaz, Kate Bush, and Peter Gabriel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> Hardy Jenns in\u003cem> Some Kind of Wonderful\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/YTds2jCQHKA'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/YTds2jCQHKA'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Although Keith Nelson (Eric Stoltz) and Hardy Jenns (Craig Sheffer) share a Steve-hole ‘do in \u003cem>Some Kind of Wonderful\u003c/em>, don’t be fooled by the feathering when discerning who’s the good guy here. Hardy is the rich one, so he’s obviously also gonna be the jerk. When Keith falls for Hardy’s ex Amanda, Hardy’s revenge plot involves kicking Keith’s butt at a house party — until some cool punk dudes help put a stop to that one. This love triangle starring Lea Thompson as Amanda and Mary Stuart Masterson as the teenage rocker Watts was less about overcoming bullies, though, and more about loving the drummer girl over the fluff chick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem> Some Kind of Wonderful\u003c/em> was one of many ‘80s movies setting the tone that the coveted guy/girl would fall for the underdog girl/guy in the end — which is why we totally expected \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em>’ Nancy to get with Jonathan at the end. But then, \u003cem>Stranger Things\u003c/em> is about both cleverly riffing on ‘80s cliches and subverting them at unexpected moments. 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