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Some head to the streets or the ballot box, others to their keyboards, and a few to the Hollywood Walk of Fame with \u003ca href=\"https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/mg_trump_chump_comp.png\">spray paint\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/12/10/415B9F0700000578-0-image-m-9_1497260931939.jpg\">#Resist stickers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"http://www.politicsplus.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Donald-Trump_Star_Dog-Shit-Poop.jpg\">poop\u003c/a>, or a pickax. This last accessory was used to \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/25/donald-trump-star-hollywood-walk-of-fame-vandalized-destroyed-pickax/\">obliterate\u003c/a> Trump's star last month, which he received in 2007 for firing sycophants on television. The star has already been replaced, but it might not stay for long if the West Hollywood City Council gets its way; yesterday, the group unanimously voted for a resolution that calls for the permanent removal of Donald Trump's star due to his \"disturbing treatment of women,\" his attempted ban of trans people in the military, his family separation policy at the U.S./Mexico border, among other reasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But before you develop strong feelings around this, know that this vote is largely symbolic; the real power falls to the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce, who just last year refused to remove Bill Cosby's star, saying, \"Once a star has been added to the Walk, it is considered a part of the historic fabric of the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Because of this, we have never removed a star from the Walk.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just in case they change their minds though, I have a few suggestions for who could take Donald's spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Rosie O'Donnell\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-104998\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/rosie-wink-odonnell-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"268\" height=\"183\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just imagine the Twitter meltdown this would inspire. Ellen Degeneres essentially copied Rosie's \"Queen of Nice\" talk show format and has a star, so why not Rosie? She also gave us\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/82832/how-rosie-odonnell-vs-elisabeth-hasselbeck-predicted-our-current-political-discourse\"> the most incredible political showdown on daytime television\u003c/a>, made Koosh balls a thing, and has advocated for veterans who need rehabilitation and at-risk children for years. And, last and certainly least, she followed me back on Twitter. Give this woman her due!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Whitney Houston\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-104999\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/whitney-eyes-houston-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"244\" height=\"238\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I triple-checked the fact that Whitney does not have a star because it just doesn't make any sense. Alas, we live in a bizarre world without justice. She gave us timeless hits, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_lCmBvYMRs\">a perfect rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner\u003c/a>, more reaction gifs than we deserve, an iconic season of reality television (\"\u003cem>Kiss my @ss!\"\u003c/em>), \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5BdDLcAws4\">an iconic interview with Wendy Williams\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPX1FK74Zvo\">an even more iconic interview with Diane Sawyer\u003c/a>, and so much more. I could go on, but why should I have to? Put her star into the ground right this minute!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Prince\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105002\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/prince-booty-shake-butt-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"380\" height=\"266\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These people really gave David Spade a star before the Artist Formally Known By A Weird Symbol?!? The gall! In addition to putting out the most vital music of the '80s (in my humble opinion), he also boldly subverted gender with no concern for all the homophobes who might stop supporting his art, made buttock cut-out pants aspirational, is one of the few musicians to create a movie worth watching, and cultivated a side-eye that is to this day unparalleled. What else needs to be said?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Missy Elliott\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105009\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/missy-elliott-bag-trash-gif-rain.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"399\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some reason, Missy doesn't get her rightful due. Remember when Katy Perry brought her out during the Super Bowl Halftime show and youngins thought she was a new artist? Sacrilege. Those of us who are old enough remember how Missy put her thing down, flipped it and reversed it (itsyurfriminipiniwit). Put some respect on her name already.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Carrie Fisher\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105017\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/carrie-fisher-going-to-bleach-your-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"326\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I just risked hella wrinkles by frowning really hard after typing her name. It's unfair that she's gone and nothing can ever make that right, but something that would help a little bit is to recognize this woman's great performances, her sharp wit, and her writing skills (her memoirs are must-reads, and she also \u003ca href=\"https://mashable.com/2016/12/27/carrie-fisher-script/#aTafzcIDnmqr\">ghostwrote many popular movies\u003c/a> like \u003cem>Sister Act\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Hook\u003c/em>, and several \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> movies). Also, she was a great mom to her dog Gary (and to her human kid too, I'm sure). Hand the star over.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Beyoncé\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105008\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/beyonce-smile-super-bowl-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, she has a joint one with Destiny's Child, but that's just not good enough. She changed the game with the surprise drop of \u003cem>Beyoncé\u003c/em>, changed it some more with \u003cem>Lemonade\u003c/em>, \u003ca href=\"https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201617/rs_500x301-160207193737-Feb_07_2016_1931.gif?fit=inside%7C900:auto&output-quality=90\">outmatched gravity\u003c/a> at the Super Bowl, \u003ca href=\"https://media.gq.com/photos/58a11caa96e688570cf2ebb4/master/w_800/beyoncechair.gif\">outmatched gravity again\u003c/a> while pregnant at the Grammys, stood eerily still while Solange Mortal Kombat-ed Jay-Z, and just this week said the following in \u003ca href=\"https://www.vogue.com/article/beyonce-september-issue-2018\">her first interview in years\u003c/a>: \"Whenever I’m ready to get a six-pack, I will go into beast zone and work my ass off until I have it. But right now, my little FUPA and I feel like we are meant to be.\" \u003ca href=\"https://media1.tenor.com/images/cfdeed6af64dc3c71d15d430053d72ca/tenor.gif?itemid=5254273\">Any questions?\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cem>And now for some controversial picks that only I will most likely rally behind:\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>The Cup of Water from \u003cem>Jurassic Park\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105028\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/jurassic-park-cup-of-water-gif-1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"851\" height=\"464\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hands down, one of the most compelling performances of the '90s. Start laying the cement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Vicki the Robot from \u003cem>Small Wonder\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105024\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/vicki-small-wonder.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"245\" height=\"184\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, most people don't remember this '80s show, and sure, the actress hasn't really been in anything else, but I don't care. Pretending to be an affectless robot in a man's world is hard work!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>The Naked Baby from Nirvana's \u003cem>Nevermind\u003c/em> album cover\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105033\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/nirvana-nevermind-baby-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This body-positive tot defined '90s grunge. Plus, he can swim when a lot of us adults can't. Kudos to him are owed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_baby\">\u003cstrong>Baby Cha-Cha\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105031\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/baby-cha-cha.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"220\" height=\"200\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking of babies, let's give it up for this meme pioneer!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Cynthia from \u003cem>Rugrats\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105022\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/cynthia-rugrats-plane-flying-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"253\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Beyoncé, Cynthia is the breakout member of this group, yet has to share a star with the other Rugrats (no joke; they \u003ca href=\"http://www.cooltoons2.com/rugrats/games/star/walkoffame.jpg\">really do have a star\u003c/a>). Before The Rachel™ hairstyle, we had The Cynthia™. Barbie who?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Dream\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105018\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/giphy-3.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"338\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This girl group dominated pop music and \u003cem>TRL\u003c/em> for approximately 15 minutes, before disbanding due to Puff Daddy's notoriously horrendous mismanagement (R.I.P. Danity Kane and Da Band). They were wronged and deserve a consolation prize! (So do the members of S Club 7 -- because imagine dividing your meager earnings that many ways -- but there is only so much room on this list.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Any and All Characters from \u003cem>X-Men: The Animated Series\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105032\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/x-men-animated-series-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"360\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For bringing about my... uh, I mean, \u003cem>our\u003c/em>... sexually awakening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Got ideas of other legends who could take Trump's spot on the Walk of Fame? Tweet 'em @KQEDPop on Twitter!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"West Hollywood voted to remove the star. If they get their wish, we've got a list of worthy replacements at the ready!","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1533766872,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":32,"wordCount":1045},"headData":{"title":"If Trump's Walk of Fame Star Goes, Here's Who Should Take His Spot | KQED","description":"West Hollywood voted to remove the star. If they get their wish, we've got a list of worthy replacements at the ready!","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"If Trump's Walk of Fame Star Goes, Here's Who Should Take His Spot","datePublished":"2018-08-08T22:21:12.000Z","dateModified":"2018-08-08T22:21:12.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"104960 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=104960","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2018/08/08/if-trumps-walk-of-fame-star-goes-heres-who-should-take-his-spot/","disqusTitle":"If Trump's Walk of Fame Star Goes, Here's Who Should Take His Spot","path":"/pop/104960/if-trumps-walk-of-fame-star-goes-heres-who-should-take-his-spot","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Protesting Donald Trump takes many forms. Some head to the streets or the ballot box, others to their keyboards, and a few to the Hollywood Walk of Fame with \u003ca href=\"https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/mg_trump_chump_comp.png\">spray paint\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/12/10/415B9F0700000578-0-image-m-9_1497260931939.jpg\">#Resist stickers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"http://www.politicsplus.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Donald-Trump_Star_Dog-Shit-Poop.jpg\">poop\u003c/a>, or a pickax. This last accessory was used to \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/25/donald-trump-star-hollywood-walk-of-fame-vandalized-destroyed-pickax/\">obliterate\u003c/a> Trump's star last month, which he received in 2007 for firing sycophants on television. The star has already been replaced, but it might not stay for long if the West Hollywood City Council gets its way; yesterday, the group unanimously voted for a resolution that calls for the permanent removal of Donald Trump's star due to his \"disturbing treatment of women,\" his attempted ban of trans people in the military, his family separation policy at the U.S./Mexico border, among other reasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But before you develop strong feelings around this, know that this vote is largely symbolic; the real power falls to the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce, who just last year refused to remove Bill Cosby's star, saying, \"Once a star has been added to the Walk, it is considered a part of the historic fabric of the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Because of this, we have never removed a star from the Walk.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just in case they change their minds though, I have a few suggestions for who could take Donald's spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Rosie O'Donnell\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-104998\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/rosie-wink-odonnell-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"268\" height=\"183\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just imagine the Twitter meltdown this would inspire. Ellen Degeneres essentially copied Rosie's \"Queen of Nice\" talk show format and has a star, so why not Rosie? She also gave us\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/82832/how-rosie-odonnell-vs-elisabeth-hasselbeck-predicted-our-current-political-discourse\"> the most incredible political showdown on daytime television\u003c/a>, made Koosh balls a thing, and has advocated for veterans who need rehabilitation and at-risk children for years. And, last and certainly least, she followed me back on Twitter. Give this woman her due!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Whitney Houston\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-104999\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/whitney-eyes-houston-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"244\" height=\"238\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I triple-checked the fact that Whitney does not have a star because it just doesn't make any sense. Alas, we live in a bizarre world without justice. She gave us timeless hits, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_lCmBvYMRs\">a perfect rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner\u003c/a>, more reaction gifs than we deserve, an iconic season of reality television (\"\u003cem>Kiss my @ss!\"\u003c/em>), \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5BdDLcAws4\">an iconic interview with Wendy Williams\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPX1FK74Zvo\">an even more iconic interview with Diane Sawyer\u003c/a>, and so much more. I could go on, but why should I have to? Put her star into the ground right this minute!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Prince\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105002\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/prince-booty-shake-butt-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"380\" height=\"266\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These people really gave David Spade a star before the Artist Formally Known By A Weird Symbol?!? The gall! In addition to putting out the most vital music of the '80s (in my humble opinion), he also boldly subverted gender with no concern for all the homophobes who might stop supporting his art, made buttock cut-out pants aspirational, is one of the few musicians to create a movie worth watching, and cultivated a side-eye that is to this day unparalleled. What else needs to be said?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Missy Elliott\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105009\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/missy-elliott-bag-trash-gif-rain.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"399\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some reason, Missy doesn't get her rightful due. Remember when Katy Perry brought her out during the Super Bowl Halftime show and youngins thought she was a new artist? Sacrilege. Those of us who are old enough remember how Missy put her thing down, flipped it and reversed it (itsyurfriminipiniwit). Put some respect on her name already.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Carrie Fisher\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105017\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/carrie-fisher-going-to-bleach-your-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"326\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I just risked hella wrinkles by frowning really hard after typing her name. It's unfair that she's gone and nothing can ever make that right, but something that would help a little bit is to recognize this woman's great performances, her sharp wit, and her writing skills (her memoirs are must-reads, and she also \u003ca href=\"https://mashable.com/2016/12/27/carrie-fisher-script/#aTafzcIDnmqr\">ghostwrote many popular movies\u003c/a> like \u003cem>Sister Act\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Hook\u003c/em>, and several \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> movies). Also, she was a great mom to her dog Gary (and to her human kid too, I'm sure). Hand the star over.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Beyoncé\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105008\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/beyonce-smile-super-bowl-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, she has a joint one with Destiny's Child, but that's just not good enough. She changed the game with the surprise drop of \u003cem>Beyoncé\u003c/em>, changed it some more with \u003cem>Lemonade\u003c/em>, \u003ca href=\"https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201617/rs_500x301-160207193737-Feb_07_2016_1931.gif?fit=inside%7C900:auto&output-quality=90\">outmatched gravity\u003c/a> at the Super Bowl, \u003ca href=\"https://media.gq.com/photos/58a11caa96e688570cf2ebb4/master/w_800/beyoncechair.gif\">outmatched gravity again\u003c/a> while pregnant at the Grammys, stood eerily still while Solange Mortal Kombat-ed Jay-Z, and just this week said the following in \u003ca href=\"https://www.vogue.com/article/beyonce-september-issue-2018\">her first interview in years\u003c/a>: \"Whenever I’m ready to get a six-pack, I will go into beast zone and work my ass off until I have it. But right now, my little FUPA and I feel like we are meant to be.\" \u003ca href=\"https://media1.tenor.com/images/cfdeed6af64dc3c71d15d430053d72ca/tenor.gif?itemid=5254273\">Any questions?\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cem>And now for some controversial picks that only I will most likely rally behind:\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>The Cup of Water from \u003cem>Jurassic Park\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105028\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/jurassic-park-cup-of-water-gif-1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"851\" height=\"464\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hands down, one of the most compelling performances of the '90s. Start laying the cement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Vicki the Robot from \u003cem>Small Wonder\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105024\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/vicki-small-wonder.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"245\" height=\"184\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, most people don't remember this '80s show, and sure, the actress hasn't really been in anything else, but I don't care. Pretending to be an affectless robot in a man's world is hard work!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>The Naked Baby from Nirvana's \u003cem>Nevermind\u003c/em> album cover\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105033\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/nirvana-nevermind-baby-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This body-positive tot defined '90s grunge. Plus, he can swim when a lot of us adults can't. Kudos to him are owed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_baby\">\u003cstrong>Baby Cha-Cha\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105031\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/baby-cha-cha.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"220\" height=\"200\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking of babies, let's give it up for this meme pioneer!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Cynthia from \u003cem>Rugrats\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105022\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/cynthia-rugrats-plane-flying-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"253\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Beyoncé, Cynthia is the breakout member of this group, yet has to share a star with the other Rugrats (no joke; they \u003ca href=\"http://www.cooltoons2.com/rugrats/games/star/walkoffame.jpg\">really do have a star\u003c/a>). Before The Rachel™ hairstyle, we had The Cynthia™. Barbie who?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Dream\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105018\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/giphy-3.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"338\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This girl group dominated pop music and \u003cem>TRL\u003c/em> for approximately 15 minutes, before disbanding due to Puff Daddy's notoriously horrendous mismanagement (R.I.P. Danity Kane and Da Band). They were wronged and deserve a consolation prize! (So do the members of S Club 7 -- because imagine dividing your meager earnings that many ways -- but there is only so much room on this list.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Any and All Characters from \u003cem>X-Men: The Animated Series\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-105032\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/08/x-men-animated-series-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"360\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For bringing about my... uh, I mean, \u003cem>our\u003c/em>... sexually awakening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Got ideas of other legends who could take Trump's spot on the Walk of Fame? Tweet 'em @KQEDPop on Twitter!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/104960/if-trumps-walk-of-fame-star-goes-heres-who-should-take-his-spot","authors":["27"],"categories":["pop_1041"],"tags":["pop_2827"],"featImg":"pop_105037","label":"pop"},"pop_103927":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_103927","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"103927","score":null,"sort":[1527728428000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"kim-kardashian-and-donald-trumps-meeting-isnt-what-you-think-it-is","title":"Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump's Meeting Isn't What You Think It Is","publishDate":1527728428,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Updated at 7:27 p.m. ET\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kim Kardashian West met with President Trump at the White House Wednesday, as the reality star seeks freedom for a great-grandmother serving a life sentence in federal prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kardashian West has been pushing for the release of Alice Marie Johnson since she heard Johnson \u003ca href=\"https://mic.com/articles/185472/this-grandmother-is-serving-a-life-sentence-for-a-nonviolent-offense#.AmWlkEbit\">tell her story\u003c/a> on news website Mic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Johnson was convicted in 1996 for a first-time drug offense. She has been behind bars for more than two decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1001961235838103552\">Trump tweeted a picture of himself with Kardashian West \u003c/a>in the Oval Office. In his tweet, Trump said the two had a great meeting. He said they discussed \"prison reform and sentencing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While at the White House, Kardashian West was also scheduled to meet with White House official Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kushner has spearheaded a White House initiative to help better prepare prisoners for life after incarceration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On her Instagram account on Wednesday, Kardashian West sent a post wishing Johnson a happy birthday, saying \"today was for you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1001961235838103552?tfw_site=NPR&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.npr.org%2F2018%2F05%2F30%2F615542337%2Fkardashian-west-visits-white-house-seeking-freedom-for-a-grandmother-serving-lif\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Johnson's supporters say she has been a model prisoner. During her time as an inmate, Johnson has written plays and become an ordained minister.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To keep Miss Alice in prison for the rest of her life is morally and economically indefensible,\" said Brittany Barnett, who is part of the legal team set up by Kardashian West to represent Johnson. \"She has more than paid her debt to society.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prison reform advocates argue that lengthy sentences issued during the height of America's so-called war on drugs for nonviolent charges are cruel and inhumane. They also point out that keeping these individuals incarcerated is costly for taxpayers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his last years in office, former President Obama undertook a project to commute the sentences of certain nonviolent drug offenders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Obama commuted a record number of sentences, Johnson was denied clemency at that time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now Kardashian West and others are hoping Trump will act on Johnson's behalf.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kardashian West is the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/05/27/614429395/trumps-moves-may-mark-a-new-era-of-the-celebrity-pardon\">latest celebrity\u003c/a> to ask Trump to use his clemency power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Actor Sylvester Stallone successfully lobbied Trump for a posthumous \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/05/27/614429395/trumps-moves-may-mark-a-new-era-of-the-celebrity-pardon\">pardon of legendary boxer Jack Johnson. \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kardashian West's husband, Kanye West, is a Trump supporter. The president and West exchanged compliments on Twitter last month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump has granted four pardons and one commutation since becoming president. All of the cases involved prominent figures or received a lot of media attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Kardashian+West+Visits+White+House+Seeking+Freedom+For+A+Grandmother+Serving+Life+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Kanye might be busy fanboying over Trump, but a love for the President isn't what brought Kim to the White House.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1527728428,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":20,"wordCount":454},"headData":{"title":"Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump's Meeting Isn't What You Think It Is | KQED","description":"Kanye might be busy fanboying over Trump, but a love for the President isn't what brought Kim to the White House.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump's Meeting Isn't What You Think It Is","datePublished":"2018-05-31T01:00:28.000Z","dateModified":"2018-05-31T01:00:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"103927 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=103927","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2018/05/30/kim-kardashian-and-donald-trumps-meeting-isnt-what-you-think-it-is/","disqusTitle":"Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump's Meeting Isn't What You Think It Is","nprImageCredit":"Angela Weiss","nprByline":"Ayesha Rascoe","nprImageAgency":"AFP/Getty Images","nprStoryId":"615542337","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=615542337&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2018/05/30/615542337/kardashian-west-visits-white-house-seeking-freedom-for-a-grandmother-serving-lif?ft=nprml&f=615542337","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Wed, 30 May 2018 19:39:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Wed, 30 May 2018 17:57:00 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Wed, 30 May 2018 19:39:34 -0400","path":"/pop/103927/kim-kardashian-and-donald-trumps-meeting-isnt-what-you-think-it-is","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Updated at 7:27 p.m. ET\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kim Kardashian West met with President Trump at the White House Wednesday, as the reality star seeks freedom for a great-grandmother serving a life sentence in federal prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kardashian West has been pushing for the release of Alice Marie Johnson since she heard Johnson \u003ca href=\"https://mic.com/articles/185472/this-grandmother-is-serving-a-life-sentence-for-a-nonviolent-offense#.AmWlkEbit\">tell her story\u003c/a> on news website Mic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Johnson was convicted in 1996 for a first-time drug offense. She has been behind bars for more than two decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1001961235838103552\">Trump tweeted a picture of himself with Kardashian West \u003c/a>in the Oval Office. In his tweet, Trump said the two had a great meeting. He said they discussed \"prison reform and sentencing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While at the White House, Kardashian West was also scheduled to meet with White House official Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kushner has spearheaded a White House initiative to help better prepare prisoners for life after incarceration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On her Instagram account on Wednesday, Kardashian West sent a post wishing Johnson a happy birthday, saying \"today was for you.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1001961235838103552"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Johnson's supporters say she has been a model prisoner. During her time as an inmate, Johnson has written plays and become an ordained minister.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To keep Miss Alice in prison for the rest of her life is morally and economically indefensible,\" said Brittany Barnett, who is part of the legal team set up by Kardashian West to represent Johnson. \"She has more than paid her debt to society.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prison reform advocates argue that lengthy sentences issued during the height of America's so-called war on drugs for nonviolent charges are cruel and inhumane. They also point out that keeping these individuals incarcerated is costly for taxpayers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his last years in office, former President Obama undertook a project to commute the sentences of certain nonviolent drug offenders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Obama commuted a record number of sentences, Johnson was denied clemency at that time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now Kardashian West and others are hoping Trump will act on Johnson's behalf.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kardashian West is the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/05/27/614429395/trumps-moves-may-mark-a-new-era-of-the-celebrity-pardon\">latest celebrity\u003c/a> to ask Trump to use his clemency power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Actor Sylvester Stallone successfully lobbied Trump for a posthumous \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/05/27/614429395/trumps-moves-may-mark-a-new-era-of-the-celebrity-pardon\">pardon of legendary boxer Jack Johnson. \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kardashian West's husband, Kanye West, is a Trump supporter. The president and West exchanged compliments on Twitter last month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump has granted four pardons and one commutation since becoming president. All of the cases involved prominent figures or received a lot of media attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Kardashian+West+Visits+White+House+Seeking+Freedom+For+A+Grandmother+Serving+Life+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/103927/kim-kardashian-and-donald-trumps-meeting-isnt-what-you-think-it-is","authors":["byline_pop_103927"],"categories":["pop_7"],"tags":["pop_2827","pop_281","pop_322"],"featImg":"pop_103928","label":"pop"},"pop_103462":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_103462","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"103462","score":null,"sort":[1525719535000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-the-kanye-controversy-can-teach-us-about-black-voters","title":"What the Kanye Controversy Can Teach Us About Black Voters","publishDate":1525719535,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>It was a week into the bizarre \"red pill\" Kanye West tour that the whole affair seemed to reach its zenith — or its nadir, depending on where you're sitting. Kanye completed his transmogrification into a sentient Reddit thread when he appeared on TMZ this week, parroting well-worn talking points about black-on-black crime and calling slavery in America \"a choice.\" \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/VanLathan\">Van Lathan\u003c/a> of TMZ was not having it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_M4LkYra5k\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kanye West — rapper, music producer, clothing designer, provocateur of debatable guile — emerged from a period of relative quietude only to spend the two weeks thrusting himself into our exhausting culture wars. He \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/987696355341553665\">shouted out\u003c/a> the alt-right-adjacent commentator Candace Owens. He reiterated his affection for President Trump, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/989225812166696960\">who returned the love\u003c/a>. He snapped a red-hat selfie. And for good measure, he wrote a verse that says black people were still on \"\u003ca href=\"https://slate.com/culture/2018/04/kanye-fires-back-at-his-critics-with-new-songs-about-donald-trump-poop.html\">the Democratic plantation\u003c/a>.\" Kanye said that he was \"free thinking\" and that he had slipped the bonds of black political conventions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/989222392630202368\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The reactions to Kanye West's noisy rightward lurch perfectly illustrated some important, particular dynamics about black voting behavior — why a country with so many black \u003cem>conservatives\u003c/em> continues to have so few black \u003cem>Republicans\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When mainstream conservatives \u003ca href=\"https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/donald-trump-campaign-fundraising-kanye-west-support.html\">rallied around Kanye\u003c/a>, they saw the possibility of a broader political shift: Maybe Kanye could make the GOP cool enough to upend black allegiance to the rival party. They were operating under the presumption that the arithmetic for black voting works the way it does for white voters: Conservative-leaning people vote for the GOP; liberal-leaning people vote for Democrats. Conservative publications hyped \u003ca href=\"http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/02/reuters-poll-black-male-approval-for-trump-doubles-in-one-week/\">a lonely Reuters poll\u003c/a> that showed that Trump's approval rating among black men had jumped to a slightly-less-abysmal number over the week of Kanye's MAGA-lite paroxysms. They were making a dent!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But black folks seemed to largely respond to Ye with eye rolls (or the way Van Lathan did in the TMZ video above): Is this the same dude who \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/25/kanye-west-from-bush-doesnt-care-about-black-people-to-praising-trumps-dragon-energy/?utm_term=.44ecb883c7e8\">went off script\u003c/a> after Hurricane Katrina to say that George W. Bush didn't care about black people? Was this some kind of elaborate troll to drum up publicity for a new album? Has Kanye lost his damn mind?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ismail White, a political scientist at George Washington University, said that the response from black people to Kanye was to be expected: Trump remains less popular with black people than with any other racial group, and no other \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/07/when-did-black-americans-start-voting-so-heavily-democratic/\">group leans as heavily Democratic in national elections as black folks\u003c/a>. But there has long been debate about why those inclinations have remained so strong.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A common explanation has been the notion of \"linked fate\" — the belief among black folks that their individual prospects are tied to a collective well-being. But White said that belief can't really explain how the powerful norm for black people to cast votes for Democrats has maintained itself over the past 50 years; norms, after all, have to be policed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What White and and three other researchers \u003ca href=\"https://chryllaird.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/we-are-one.pdf\">found in a recent study\u003c/a> is that social pressure from other black people is how this Democratic norm gets policed. They found that the expectations around this norm were so powerful that simply having a black questioner ask a black respondent about their voting preferences made that respondent more likely to say they were voting for a Democratic candidate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://chryllaird.com/\">Chryl Laird\u003c/a>, one of the study's authors, said this is how everyone votes. We like to think of our voting choices as purely rational, but we take cues from the people around us, especially when we don't know much about a candidate or an issue. Laird said social influence and pressure partly explain why most white evangelical voters in Alabama supported Senate candidate Roy Moore last fall, even after he was accused of sexual misconduct involving minors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But she said these social effects are more intense for black people because of their history in the United States. \"Even going back to slavery, during planned slave revolts, black people would find ways to socially sanction people who informed of their plans,\" she said. \"During Reconstruction, we see instances of people who were planning to vote for the Democratic Party out of self-interest — maybe they were bribed by a white person — and those people were ostracized.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Enforcing that solidarity has historically been a matter of life or death. But entrenched segregation today keeps black people of different ideological stripes in close social and spatial proximity to one another. It's easier to enforce collective norms, to feel affirmation or sanction from black folks, when you have black neighbors, go to black schools and mosques and churches and hair salons, when you carry around around that social history and that sense of shared stakes. Black people are surrounded by black Democrats, so they vote like black Democrats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And when they don't, they get checked. Laird pointed to an example of this from the Kanye mess: John Legend, Kanye's friend and sometimes collaborator, sent him a text message nudging him to reconsider — or just consider at all — what he was saying. (Kanye, being Kanye, posted a screenshot of that exchange to Twitter.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/989541974070837248\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That nudge from John Legend, Laird says — or even \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/chancetherapper/status/989877973078691841?tfw_creator=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Ftanya_chen&tfw_site=buzzfeednews&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Ftanyachen%2Fchance-rapper-apology-kanye-west-donald-trump-chicago\">Chance the Rapper\u003c/a>'s publicly distancing himself from Kanye's comments — is what enforcing those norms looks like in real time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Kanye isn't wrong when he says there is a lot of social pressure for black people to vote Democratic. But how those pressures extend to Kanye is a different question. Laird said that the black people who are most likely to cast ballots for Republicans tend to have more attenuated social connections to black communities — like hypothetically, a famous entertainer who lives in an ultrawealthy town with a \u003ca href=\"https://statisticalatlas.com/place/California/Calabasas/Race-and-Ethnicity\">3 percent black population\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kanye has always cast himself as an iconoclast, brave enough to flout prevailing expectations for black people. But it makes sense to ask how much his current ideological trajectory owes to his own changing personal arithmetic around social sanction and social rewards. He is not in Chicago anymore. And Kanye, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8BlBpW9LPM\">as famous for his self-obsession as he is for his music\u003c/a>, could just be looking for affirmation from \u003ca href=\"http://fortune.com/2018/04/26/kanye-west-venture-capital-peter-thiel/\">the people in his current social universe who can give it to him\u003c/a>. (That math is different for John Legend and Chance, who are more closely tied to black communities \u003ca href=\"http://letsfreeamerica.com/\">through\u003c/a> their \u003ca href=\"https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/chance-the-rapper-talks-music-chicago-and-activism-during-mca-chat/\">activism\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So where does that leave black conservatives more broadly? It's certainly not hard to find them: the capitalists who think supporting black banks can offset the effects of racism on black wealth; the social conservatives who see absent fathers as exacerbating black marginalization. There are folks who believe that black uplift lies in sufficient guile and thrift, and folks who believe that gun ownership is necessary to fend off white supremacy. There are powerful impulses coursing through institutions as disparate as \u003ca href=\"https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/05/28/blackgreek\">black sororities and fraternities\u003c/a> and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/26/us/26farrakhan.html\">Nation of Islam\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it's the blackness of those philosophies that confounds the conventional left-right political continuum. Black conservatives are more likely to take as a given that racism — and anti-blackness, in particular — is a defining force in American life. If the old saw goes that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged, then a black conservative is a conservative who has been assumed to be the mugger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To put this another way: Those black conservatives differ from mainstream conservatism because they aren't organized around white interests. Black conservatives get black people whereas white conservatives who applaud Kanye for \"escaping the Democrat plantation\" are so removed from black folks that they think it makes sense to invoke the language of slavery to describe the overwhelming majority of black voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whiteness, demographically and ideologically, has been so central to the mainstream conservative project that bringing black conservatives into the fold and into the Republican Party — which derives almost all of its electoral support from white conservatives — wouldn't just change its racial demographics. It would effectively change the party's ideological composition, as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leah Wright Rigueur, a Harvard political scientist and the author of the \u003ca href=\"https://newrepublic.com/article/123328/loneliness-black-republican\">Loneliness Of The Black Republican\u003c/a>, said rank-and-file black Republicans often express frustration with their party's messaging and policies toward black people. They are often ignored by fellow Republicans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But they're also viewed with suspicion by other black folks. \"There's research that shows that black folks hold much more negative opinions about black Republicans than they are of white Republicans with the same views, because they feel like it's a betrayal,\" Rigueur said. And because the handful of black Republicans with higher profiles — \u003ca href=\"https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/1117/Herman-Cain-s-other-problem-African-Americans\">Herman Cain\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2013/nov/27/allen-west/allen-west-more-black-black-murders-six-months-86-/\">Allen West\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/06/carson-compares-slaves-to-immigrants-coming-to-a-land-of-dreams-and-opportunity/?utm_term=.e445aef5692d\">Ben Carson\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.deseretnews.com/article/705396842/Love-would-take-apart-Congressional-Black-Caucus-if-elected-in-Utahs-4th-District.html?pg=all\">Mia Love\u003c/a> — don't talk to or about other black people with any particular warmth or facility, it adds to the sense that their primary role is to be the Republican Party's \"black friend.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so the very things that endear figures like Kanye to Republicans — his willingness to troll black people, to proclaim concerns about race obsolete, to embrace white conservatives — are the very same things that ignite black people's distrust of figures like Kanye. And it's the thing that both Kanye and Republicans who see him as a potential evangelist to black folks keep missing: You can't break bread if you're not invited to the cookout.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=What+The+Kanye+Controversy+Can+Teach+Us+About+Black+Voters&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The reactions to Kanye West's noisy rightward lurch illustrate some important dynamics about black voting behavior and why a country with many black conservatives has so few black Republicans.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1525719535,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":1620},"headData":{"title":"What the Kanye Controversy Can Teach Us About Black Voters | KQED","description":"The reactions to Kanye West's noisy rightward lurch illustrate some important dynamics about black voting behavior and why a country with many black conservatives has so few black Republicans.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"What the Kanye Controversy Can Teach Us About Black Voters","datePublished":"2018-05-07T18:58:55.000Z","dateModified":"2018-05-07T18:58:55.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"103462 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=103462","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2018/05/07/what-the-kanye-controversy-can-teach-us-about-black-voters/","disqusTitle":"What the Kanye Controversy Can Teach Us About Black Voters","nprImageCredit":"Timothy A. 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Kanye completed his transmogrification into a sentient Reddit thread when he appeared on TMZ this week, parroting well-worn talking points about black-on-black crime and calling slavery in America \"a choice.\" \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/VanLathan\">Van Lathan\u003c/a> of TMZ was not having it.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/s_M4LkYra5k'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/s_M4LkYra5k'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Kanye West — rapper, music producer, clothing designer, provocateur of debatable guile — emerged from a period of relative quietude only to spend the two weeks thrusting himself into our exhausting culture wars. He \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/987696355341553665\">shouted out\u003c/a> the alt-right-adjacent commentator Candace Owens. He reiterated his affection for President Trump, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/989225812166696960\">who returned the love\u003c/a>. He snapped a red-hat selfie. And for good measure, he wrote a verse that says black people were still on \"\u003ca href=\"https://slate.com/culture/2018/04/kanye-fires-back-at-his-critics-with-new-songs-about-donald-trump-poop.html\">the Democratic plantation\u003c/a>.\" Kanye said that he was \"free thinking\" and that he had slipped the bonds of black political conventions.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"989222392630202368"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>The reactions to Kanye West's noisy rightward lurch perfectly illustrated some important, particular dynamics about black voting behavior — why a country with so many black \u003cem>conservatives\u003c/em> continues to have so few black \u003cem>Republicans\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When mainstream conservatives \u003ca href=\"https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/donald-trump-campaign-fundraising-kanye-west-support.html\">rallied around Kanye\u003c/a>, they saw the possibility of a broader political shift: Maybe Kanye could make the GOP cool enough to upend black allegiance to the rival party. They were operating under the presumption that the arithmetic for black voting works the way it does for white voters: Conservative-leaning people vote for the GOP; liberal-leaning people vote for Democrats. Conservative publications hyped \u003ca href=\"http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/02/reuters-poll-black-male-approval-for-trump-doubles-in-one-week/\">a lonely Reuters poll\u003c/a> that showed that Trump's approval rating among black men had jumped to a slightly-less-abysmal number over the week of Kanye's MAGA-lite paroxysms. They were making a dent!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But black folks seemed to largely respond to Ye with eye rolls (or the way Van Lathan did in the TMZ video above): Is this the same dude who \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/25/kanye-west-from-bush-doesnt-care-about-black-people-to-praising-trumps-dragon-energy/?utm_term=.44ecb883c7e8\">went off script\u003c/a> after Hurricane Katrina to say that George W. Bush didn't care about black people? Was this some kind of elaborate troll to drum up publicity for a new album? Has Kanye lost his damn mind?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ismail White, a political scientist at George Washington University, said that the response from black people to Kanye was to be expected: Trump remains less popular with black people than with any other racial group, and no other \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/07/when-did-black-americans-start-voting-so-heavily-democratic/\">group leans as heavily Democratic in national elections as black folks\u003c/a>. But there has long been debate about why those inclinations have remained so strong.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A common explanation has been the notion of \"linked fate\" — the belief among black folks that their individual prospects are tied to a collective well-being. But White said that belief can't really explain how the powerful norm for black people to cast votes for Democrats has maintained itself over the past 50 years; norms, after all, have to be policed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What White and and three other researchers \u003ca href=\"https://chryllaird.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/we-are-one.pdf\">found in a recent study\u003c/a> is that social pressure from other black people is how this Democratic norm gets policed. They found that the expectations around this norm were so powerful that simply having a black questioner ask a black respondent about their voting preferences made that respondent more likely to say they were voting for a Democratic candidate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://chryllaird.com/\">Chryl Laird\u003c/a>, one of the study's authors, said this is how everyone votes. We like to think of our voting choices as purely rational, but we take cues from the people around us, especially when we don't know much about a candidate or an issue. Laird said social influence and pressure partly explain why most white evangelical voters in Alabama supported Senate candidate Roy Moore last fall, even after he was accused of sexual misconduct involving minors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But she said these social effects are more intense for black people because of their history in the United States. \"Even going back to slavery, during planned slave revolts, black people would find ways to socially sanction people who informed of their plans,\" she said. \"During Reconstruction, we see instances of people who were planning to vote for the Democratic Party out of self-interest — maybe they were bribed by a white person — and those people were ostracized.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Enforcing that solidarity has historically been a matter of life or death. But entrenched segregation today keeps black people of different ideological stripes in close social and spatial proximity to one another. It's easier to enforce collective norms, to feel affirmation or sanction from black folks, when you have black neighbors, go to black schools and mosques and churches and hair salons, when you carry around around that social history and that sense of shared stakes. Black people are surrounded by black Democrats, so they vote like black Democrats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And when they don't, they get checked. Laird pointed to an example of this from the Kanye mess: John Legend, Kanye's friend and sometimes collaborator, sent him a text message nudging him to reconsider — or just consider at all — what he was saying. (Kanye, being Kanye, posted a screenshot of that exchange to Twitter.)\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"989541974070837248"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>That nudge from John Legend, Laird says — or even \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/chancetherapper/status/989877973078691841?tfw_creator=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Ftanya_chen&tfw_site=buzzfeednews&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Ftanyachen%2Fchance-rapper-apology-kanye-west-donald-trump-chicago\">Chance the Rapper\u003c/a>'s publicly distancing himself from Kanye's comments — is what enforcing those norms looks like in real time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Kanye isn't wrong when he says there is a lot of social pressure for black people to vote Democratic. But how those pressures extend to Kanye is a different question. Laird said that the black people who are most likely to cast ballots for Republicans tend to have more attenuated social connections to black communities — like hypothetically, a famous entertainer who lives in an ultrawealthy town with a \u003ca href=\"https://statisticalatlas.com/place/California/Calabasas/Race-and-Ethnicity\">3 percent black population\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kanye has always cast himself as an iconoclast, brave enough to flout prevailing expectations for black people. But it makes sense to ask how much his current ideological trajectory owes to his own changing personal arithmetic around social sanction and social rewards. He is not in Chicago anymore. And Kanye, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8BlBpW9LPM\">as famous for his self-obsession as he is for his music\u003c/a>, could just be looking for affirmation from \u003ca href=\"http://fortune.com/2018/04/26/kanye-west-venture-capital-peter-thiel/\">the people in his current social universe who can give it to him\u003c/a>. (That math is different for John Legend and Chance, who are more closely tied to black communities \u003ca href=\"http://letsfreeamerica.com/\">through\u003c/a> their \u003ca href=\"https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/chance-the-rapper-talks-music-chicago-and-activism-during-mca-chat/\">activism\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So where does that leave black conservatives more broadly? It's certainly not hard to find them: the capitalists who think supporting black banks can offset the effects of racism on black wealth; the social conservatives who see absent fathers as exacerbating black marginalization. There are folks who believe that black uplift lies in sufficient guile and thrift, and folks who believe that gun ownership is necessary to fend off white supremacy. There are powerful impulses coursing through institutions as disparate as \u003ca href=\"https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/05/28/blackgreek\">black sororities and fraternities\u003c/a> and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/26/us/26farrakhan.html\">Nation of Islam\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it's the blackness of those philosophies that confounds the conventional left-right political continuum. Black conservatives are more likely to take as a given that racism — and anti-blackness, in particular — is a defining force in American life. If the old saw goes that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged, then a black conservative is a conservative who has been assumed to be the mugger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To put this another way: Those black conservatives differ from mainstream conservatism because they aren't organized around white interests. Black conservatives get black people whereas white conservatives who applaud Kanye for \"escaping the Democrat plantation\" are so removed from black folks that they think it makes sense to invoke the language of slavery to describe the overwhelming majority of black voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whiteness, demographically and ideologically, has been so central to the mainstream conservative project that bringing black conservatives into the fold and into the Republican Party — which derives almost all of its electoral support from white conservatives — wouldn't just change its racial demographics. It would effectively change the party's ideological composition, as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leah Wright Rigueur, a Harvard political scientist and the author of the \u003ca href=\"https://newrepublic.com/article/123328/loneliness-black-republican\">Loneliness Of The Black Republican\u003c/a>, said rank-and-file black Republicans often express frustration with their party's messaging and policies toward black people. They are often ignored by fellow Republicans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But they're also viewed with suspicion by other black folks. \"There's research that shows that black folks hold much more negative opinions about black Republicans than they are of white Republicans with the same views, because they feel like it's a betrayal,\" Rigueur said. And because the handful of black Republicans with higher profiles — \u003ca href=\"https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/1117/Herman-Cain-s-other-problem-African-Americans\">Herman Cain\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2013/nov/27/allen-west/allen-west-more-black-black-murders-six-months-86-/\">Allen West\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/06/carson-compares-slaves-to-immigrants-coming-to-a-land-of-dreams-and-opportunity/?utm_term=.e445aef5692d\">Ben Carson\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.deseretnews.com/article/705396842/Love-would-take-apart-Congressional-Black-Caucus-if-elected-in-Utahs-4th-District.html?pg=all\">Mia Love\u003c/a> — don't talk to or about other black people with any particular warmth or facility, it adds to the sense that their primary role is to be the Republican Party's \"black friend.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so the very things that endear figures like Kanye to Republicans — his willingness to troll black people, to proclaim concerns about race obsolete, to embrace white conservatives — are the very same things that ignite black people's distrust of figures like Kanye. And it's the thing that both Kanye and Republicans who see him as a potential evangelist to black folks keep missing: You can't break bread if you're not invited to the cookout.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=What+The+Kanye+Controversy+Can+Teach+Us+About+Black+Voters&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/103462/what-the-kanye-controversy-can-teach-us-about-black-voters","authors":["byline_pop_103462"],"categories":["pop_1041"],"tags":["pop_2827","pop_282"],"featImg":"pop_103467","label":"pop"},"pop_96241":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_96241","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"96241","score":null,"sort":[1505764792000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"last-nights-emmy-awards-almost-turned-into-a-donald-trump-roast","title":"Last Night's Emmy Awards Almost Turned into a Donald Trump Roast","publishDate":1505764792,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Television is intractable in the story of Donald Trump, with his run on reality TV serving as the lead-in to his political rise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And television's 69th Emmy Awards seemed all about Trump Sunday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The tone of the award show was set from host Stephen Colbert's opening monologue, in which he noted, \"However you feel about the president, and you do feel about the president, you can't deny that every show was influenced by Donald Trump in some way. All the late-night shows, obviously.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Colbert went on:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>We all know the Emmys mean a lot to Donald Trump. Because he was nominated multiple times for \u003cem>Celebrity Apprentice\u003c/em> but he never won. Why didn't you give him an Emmy? I tell you this. If he had won an Emmy, I bet he wouldn't have run for president. So in a way this is all your fault.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>And Colbert's biggest zinger: \"Unlike the presidency, Emmys go to the winner of the popular vote.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Soon after, who should appear on stage, pushing out a lectern but former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer, joking about the size of the Emmy audience. It was both a reference to his much-lampooned statement about the size of Trump's inauguration crowd and a shout-out to actress Melissa McCarthy's stinging portrayal of \"Spicey\" on \u003cem>Saturday Night Live\u003c/em>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=SLoQoYi3P5U\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several of the award winners also delivered political one liners. Alec Baldwin won a supporting actor Emmy for his impression of Trump on \u003cem>SNL\u003c/em>. Holding the award Baldwin said, \"At long last Mr. President, here is your Emmy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQm6jxRrksM\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After receiving her Emmy for best comedy actress, Julia Louis-Dreyfus of HBO's \u003cem>Veep\u003c/em>, said the show had prepared \"a whole story line about impeachment, but we abandoned it because we were worried that someone else might get to it first.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA7fKhQnlKs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Donald Glover, who won as star and director of the FX show \u003cem>Atlanta\u003c/em> thanked the president for his award, saying he had made \"black people number one on the most oppressed list.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9u3QiyfqMU\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of Monday morning, Trump had not weighed in on the show with any tweets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=The+Real+%27Spicey%27+Crashes+The+Emmys%2C+As+Stars+Mock+Trump&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Stephen Colbert set the tone; Alec Baldwin, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Donald Glover and more, ran with it.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1505767487,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":403},"headData":{"title":"Last Night's Emmy Awards Almost Turned into a Donald Trump Roast | KQED","description":"Stephen Colbert set the tone; Alec Baldwin, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Donald Glover and more, ran with it.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Last Night's Emmy Awards Almost Turned into a Donald Trump Roast","datePublished":"2017-09-18T19:59:52.000Z","dateModified":"2017-09-18T20:44:47.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"96241 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=96241","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2017/09/18/last-nights-emmy-awards-almost-turned-into-a-donald-trump-roast/","disqusTitle":"Last Night's Emmy Awards Almost Turned into a Donald Trump Roast","nprImageCredit":"Dan Steinberg","nprByline":"Brian Naylor","nprImageAgency":"Invision for the Television Academy","nprStoryId":"551770652","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=551770652&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"http://www.npr.org/2017/09/18/551770652/the-real-spicey-crashes-the-emmys-as-stars-mock-trump?ft=nprml&f=551770652","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:43:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:35:54 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:43:11 -0400","path":"/pop/96241/last-nights-emmy-awards-almost-turned-into-a-donald-trump-roast","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Television is intractable in the story of Donald Trump, with his run on reality TV serving as the lead-in to his political rise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And television's 69th Emmy Awards seemed all about Trump Sunday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The tone of the award show was set from host Stephen Colbert's opening monologue, in which he noted, \"However you feel about the president, and you do feel about the president, you can't deny that every show was influenced by Donald Trump in some way. All the late-night shows, obviously.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Colbert went on:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>We all know the Emmys mean a lot to Donald Trump. Because he was nominated multiple times for \u003cem>Celebrity Apprentice\u003c/em> but he never won. Why didn't you give him an Emmy? I tell you this. If he had won an Emmy, I bet he wouldn't have run for president. So in a way this is all your fault.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>And Colbert's biggest zinger: \"Unlike the presidency, Emmys go to the winner of the popular vote.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Soon after, who should appear on stage, pushing out a lectern but former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer, joking about the size of the Emmy audience. It was both a reference to his much-lampooned statement about the size of Trump's inauguration crowd and a shout-out to actress Melissa McCarthy's stinging portrayal of \"Spicey\" on \u003cem>Saturday Night Live\u003c/em>:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/SLoQoYi3P5U'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/SLoQoYi3P5U'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Several of the award winners also delivered political one liners. Alec Baldwin won a supporting actor Emmy for his impression of Trump on \u003cem>SNL\u003c/em>. Holding the award Baldwin said, \"At long last Mr. President, here is your Emmy.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/ZQm6jxRrksM'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/ZQm6jxRrksM'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>After receiving her Emmy for best comedy actress, Julia Louis-Dreyfus of HBO's \u003cem>Veep\u003c/em>, said the show had prepared \"a whole story line about impeachment, but we abandoned it because we were worried that someone else might get to it first.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/TA7fKhQnlKs'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/TA7fKhQnlKs'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>And Donald Glover, who won as star and director of the FX show \u003cem>Atlanta\u003c/em> thanked the president for his award, saying he had made \"black people number one on the most oppressed list.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/F9u3QiyfqMU'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/F9u3QiyfqMU'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of Monday morning, Trump had not weighed in on the show with any tweets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=The+Real+%27Spicey%27+Crashes+The+Emmys%2C+As+Stars+Mock+Trump&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/96241/last-nights-emmy-awards-almost-turned-into-a-donald-trump-roast","authors":["byline_pop_96241"],"categories":["pop_3"],"tags":["pop_3060","pop_3058","pop_2827","pop_3061","pop_3059","pop_1263"],"featImg":"pop_96251","label":"pop"},"pop_94921":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_94921","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"94921","score":null,"sort":[1501540214000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"trump-can-be-comedy-gold-but-not-all-comedians-are-mining","title":"Trump Can Be Comedy Gold, But Not All Comedians Are Mining","publishDate":1501540214,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Comedians have vastly different styles and sensibilities. Nowhere is this more apparent than at Montreal's annual \u003ca href=\"http://www.hahaha.com/en/montreal-festival\">Just For Laughs\u003c/a> comedy festival, where one minute you're riding a speedboat of brainy one-liners from \u003ca href=\"http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000632/\">Jerry Seinfeld\u003c/a>; the next, you're floating along with the intoxicating tales of \u003ca href=\"http://www.ronfunches.com/\">Ron Funches\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Comedians are just as varied in their decisions of whether to talk politics on stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For professional jokesters, President Trump is either gold to mine or a grenade to avoid. Sometimes he's both. With impersonations by Alec Baldwin, Kate McKinnon and Melissa McCarthy, \u003cem>Saturday Night Live\u003c/em> has turned the Trump administration into bona fide comedy canon. \u003cem>The Late Show\u003c/em>'s Stephen Colbert delights in poking fun at the powerful, like the time he asked\u003ca href=\"http://www.cbs.com/shows/the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/video/9jQu1_5deNfLcXNT6Eh7KHu7URZ6iYFj/andy-serkis-becomes-gollum-to-read-trump-s-tweets/\"> Andy Serkis\u003c/a> to read Mr. Trump's tweets in the voice of Gollum from the \u003cem>Lord of The Rings\u003c/em> movies. More brazenly, Viceland's Desus and Mero\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0JdOvgVkWg\"> lacerate\u003c/a> White House staffers as they watch them in video interviews or speeches.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuc18xISwI\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The philosophy at comedy video website \u003ca href=\"http://www.funnyordie.com/\">Funny Or Die\u003c/a>: tackle it head on. \"I think comedy is at its best when it's addressing power and powerful institutions,\" says CEO Mike Farah. \"Right now we have an individual who is representing an institution in ways that lots of people disagree with. And if we can use comedy to attack that power, and to make funny and smart observations about the world and the hypocrisy we're living in ... I think it's our responsibility.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among Funny Or Die's Trump-related material, comedians Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson do a spoof called\u003ca href=\"http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ec8412d8a3/jared-kushner-and-ivanka-trump-are-expecting-the-chinese-for-dinner\"> Jared & Ivanka\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_94922\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-94922\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425-768x432.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425-520x293.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/jaredandivanka_wide-5bc7294e007506b65d1bddde93b7229ac235c425.jpg 1088w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson embrace the comedy of the Trump family in Funny or Die's Jared & Ivanka.\u003cbr>Funny or Die via (YouTube/Screenshot by NPR)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Other comedians aren't sure they want to plumb the depths of the current administration. Dave Chappelle told \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/arts/television/dave-chappelle-on-trump-cosby-and-his-netflix-deal.html?_r=0\">The New York Times\u003c/a>\u003c/em> he thought it was hard for comedians to find an \"angle that sounds fresh.\" More recently, as a guest on the NPR podcast\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510323/whats-good-with-stretch-and-bobbito\"> What's Good with Stretch and Bobbito\u003c/a>\u003c/em>, Chappelle marveled at Mr. Trump's impact.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I can't remember anybody permeating the American psyche this completely,\" he said. \"Everyone's always talking about this guy, speculating about this guy. He's a noisy, noisy president.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former \u003cem>SNL\u003c/em> cast member Sasheer Zamata confronts social issues in her stand-up, but her point of departure is usually personal. Stories about working at Disney World or being in an interracial couple are both specific to her but indirectly confront some harsh truths about current events. While she doesn't consider herself a political comedian, she couldn't avoid Donald Trump when she filmed her comedy special\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0RBaS57zPw\"> Pizza Mind\u003c/a> \u003c/em>in New Orleans last December. \"I only have one joke in there. He gets enough press,\" says Zamata pointedly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laid-back Ron Funches avoids material that's heavily political altogether.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's not comedy. That's a rally,\" he says. Funches prefers to keep his material \"sharp\" but \"positive.\" He says he has more fun telling jokes about things he likes. \"Video games. Pot. Butts.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Funches does have an\u003ca href=\"http://teamcoco.com/video/ron-funches-new-cartoon-inspired-by-trump?playlist=x;eyJ0b3RhbCI6MTAsInR5cGUiOiJyZWxhdGVkIiwiaWQiOjk4NDk3fQ\"> idea\u003c/a> for a new show. As a serious fan of WWE, he says he wants to do \"a wrestling cartoon where one of the wrestlers is also the president of the United States,\" Funches says with a sly smile. \"I don't know if it's an allegory for anything going on in the United States. But it could be.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Trump+Can+Be+Comedy+Gold%2C+But+Not+All+Comedians+Are+Mining&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"President Trump is seen by comedians as either gold to mine or a grenade to avoid -- sometimes he's both.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1501538165,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":607},"headData":{"title":"Trump Can Be Comedy Gold, But Not All Comedians Are Mining | KQED","description":"President Trump is seen by comedians as either gold to mine or a grenade to avoid -- sometimes he's both.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Trump Can Be Comedy Gold, But Not All Comedians Are Mining","datePublished":"2017-07-31T22:30:14.000Z","dateModified":"2017-07-31T21:56:05.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"94921 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=94921","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2017/07/31/trump-can-be-comedy-gold-but-not-all-comedians-are-mining/","disqusTitle":"Trump Can Be Comedy Gold, But Not All Comedians Are Mining","nprImageCredit":"Funny or Die via YouTube","nprByline":"Elizabeth Blair","nprImageAgency":"Screenshot by NPR","nprStoryId":"540208202","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=540208202&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"http://www.npr.org/2017/07/29/540208202/trump-can-be-comedy-gold-but-not-all-comedians-are-mining?ft=nprml&f=540208202","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Sat, 29 Jul 2017 18:20:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:00:00 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Sat, 29 Jul 2017 18:36:17 -0400","path":"/pop/94921/trump-can-be-comedy-gold-but-not-all-comedians-are-mining","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Comedians have vastly different styles and sensibilities. Nowhere is this more apparent than at Montreal's annual \u003ca href=\"http://www.hahaha.com/en/montreal-festival\">Just For Laughs\u003c/a> comedy festival, where one minute you're riding a speedboat of brainy one-liners from \u003ca href=\"http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000632/\">Jerry Seinfeld\u003c/a>; the next, you're floating along with the intoxicating tales of \u003ca href=\"http://www.ronfunches.com/\">Ron Funches\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Comedians are just as varied in their decisions of whether to talk politics on stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For professional jokesters, President Trump is either gold to mine or a grenade to avoid. Sometimes he's both. With impersonations by Alec Baldwin, Kate McKinnon and Melissa McCarthy, \u003cem>Saturday Night Live\u003c/em> has turned the Trump administration into bona fide comedy canon. \u003cem>The Late Show\u003c/em>'s Stephen Colbert delights in poking fun at the powerful, like the time he asked\u003ca href=\"http://www.cbs.com/shows/the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/video/9jQu1_5deNfLcXNT6Eh7KHu7URZ6iYFj/andy-serkis-becomes-gollum-to-read-trump-s-tweets/\"> Andy Serkis\u003c/a> to read Mr. Trump's tweets in the voice of Gollum from the \u003cem>Lord of The Rings\u003c/em> movies. More brazenly, Viceland's Desus and Mero\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0JdOvgVkWg\"> lacerate\u003c/a> White House staffers as they watch them in video interviews or speeches.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/UWuc18xISwI'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/UWuc18xISwI'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>The philosophy at comedy video website \u003ca href=\"http://www.funnyordie.com/\">Funny Or Die\u003c/a>: tackle it head on. \"I think comedy is at its best when it's addressing power and powerful institutions,\" says CEO Mike Farah. \"Right now we have an individual who is representing an institution in ways that lots of people disagree with. And if we can use comedy to attack that power, and to make funny and smart observations about the world and the hypocrisy we're living in ... 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Dave Chappelle told \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/arts/television/dave-chappelle-on-trump-cosby-and-his-netflix-deal.html?_r=0\">The New York Times\u003c/a>\u003c/em> he thought it was hard for comedians to find an \"angle that sounds fresh.\" More recently, as a guest on the NPR podcast\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510323/whats-good-with-stretch-and-bobbito\"> What's Good with Stretch and Bobbito\u003c/a>\u003c/em>, Chappelle marveled at Mr. Trump's impact.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I can't remember anybody permeating the American psyche this completely,\" he said. \"Everyone's always talking about this guy, speculating about this guy. He's a noisy, noisy president.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former \u003cem>SNL\u003c/em> cast member Sasheer Zamata confronts social issues in her stand-up, but her point of departure is usually personal. Stories about working at Disney World or being in an interracial couple are both specific to her but indirectly confront some harsh truths about current events. While she doesn't consider herself a political comedian, she couldn't avoid Donald Trump when she filmed her comedy special\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0RBaS57zPw\"> Pizza Mind\u003c/a> \u003c/em>in New Orleans last December. \"I only have one joke in there. He gets enough press,\" says Zamata pointedly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laid-back Ron Funches avoids material that's heavily political altogether.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's not comedy. That's a rally,\" he says. Funches prefers to keep his material \"sharp\" but \"positive.\" He says he has more fun telling jokes about things he likes. \"Video games. Pot. 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To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Trump+Can+Be+Comedy+Gold%2C+But+Not+All+Comedians+Are+Mining&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/94921/trump-can-be-comedy-gold-but-not-all-comedians-are-mining","authors":["byline_pop_94921"],"categories":["pop_2696"],"tags":["pop_2844","pop_2827","pop_1637","pop_1228","pop_1263"],"featImg":"pop_94925","label":"pop"},"pop_94025":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_94025","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"94025","score":null,"sort":[1501102555000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"take-a-break-from-trump-and-watch-these-cute-animal-videos-instead","title":"Take a Break from Trump and Watch These Cute Animal Videos Instead","publishDate":1501102555,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Remember what it was like to wake up and not have your entire day ruined by whatever news slipped out of the HellMouth and onto your phone while you were sleeping? Yeah, me neither.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/xcusemybeauty/status/890257397188444160\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rest of my day usually goes one of two ways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>1. Read every single article about all the new horrible things that are happening. Update Burn Book. Read even more upsetting articles. Rant via every medium -- text, landline, tweet, face-to-face. Google Ruth Bader Ginsburg to make sure she's still doing okay and keeping up with her pushup exercise regimen. Think about Sasha Obama and smile. Go back to being mad about everything. Repeat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>2. Add to your life by avoiding the news. Hydrate. Listen to music from your childhood as a way to remind yourself of a time before you realized everyone is craven and evil. Find cute animal videos and watch them all more than twice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, I'm walking through Door #2. I present the cute animal videos du jour.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How do you prepare panda cubs for a life without the help of humans? Dress up in a panda costume and play with them!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Ftheguardian%2Fvideos%2F10155738165431323%2F&width=500&show_text=false&height=500&appId\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" allowtransparency=\"true\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still feeling bad? Check out this elephant picking up trash just to be nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/planetepics/status/887918259831529472\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cultivate calmness by watching this zen cutie heed Michelle Obama's words to go high when they go low.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/zboah/status/883738347621036034\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We should all try to be more like this puppy petting a kitten.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/WoaAnimals/status/889333888690028544\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Remember to make time for your friends, a.k.a. the baby goats to your baby rhino.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/MeetAnimals/status/890129815336038400\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Next time something confounding happens in the world, think of this head-tilting pup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/AnimaILife/status/890059393496215553\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's easy to forget to practice self-care during turbulent and stressful times. Make a to-do list that only involves three things: stretching, resting, and cuddling. If it's good enough for these little kitties, it's good enough for you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/CuteAnimaIVines/status/889558650636861445\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I feel so much better. Don't you?\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Sometimes the news is just too much. That's where baby pandas, kittens, and puppies come in.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1501105496,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":16,"wordCount":375},"headData":{"title":"Take a Break from Trump and Watch These Cute Animal Videos Instead | KQED","description":"Sometimes the news is just too much. 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Find cute animal videos and watch them all more than twice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, I'm walking through Door #2. I present the cute animal videos du jour.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How do you prepare panda cubs for a life without the help of humans? Dress up in a panda costume and play with them!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Ftheguardian%2Fvideos%2F10155738165431323%2F&width=500&show_text=false&height=500&appId\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" allowtransparency=\"true\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still feeling bad? Check out this elephant picking up trash just to be nice.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"887918259831529472"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Cultivate calmness by watching this zen cutie heed Michelle Obama's words to go high when they go low.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"883738347621036034"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>We should all try to be more like this puppy petting a kitten.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"889333888690028544"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Remember to make time for your friends, a.k.a. the baby goats to your baby rhino.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"890129815336038400"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Next time something confounding happens in the world, think of this head-tilting pup.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"890059393496215553"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>It's easy to forget to practice self-care during turbulent and stressful times. Make a to-do list that only involves three things: stretching, resting, and cuddling. If it's good enough for these little kitties, it's good enough for you.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"889558650636861445"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I feel so much better. Don't you?\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/94025/take-a-break-from-trump-and-watch-these-cute-animal-videos-instead","authors":["27"],"categories":["pop_1","pop_1041"],"tags":["pop_2827"],"featImg":"pop_94041","label":"pop"},"pop_82832":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_82832","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"82832","score":null,"sort":[1496322033000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"how-rosie-odonnell-vs-elisabeth-hasselbeck-predicted-our-current-political-discourse","title":"How Rosie O'Donnell vs. Elisabeth Hasselbeck Predicted Our Current Political Discourse","publishDate":1496322033,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>This piece was inspired by an episode of \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\">The Cooler\u003c/a>, KQED’s weekly pop culture podcast. Give it a listen!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/www.kqed.org/.stream/mp3splice/radio/thecooler/2017/05/Diesel.mp3\" title=\"Rosie vs. Elisabeth, 10 Years Later\" program=\"The Cooler\" image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/03/clo.jpg\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"aligncenter\">\n\u003cdiv>\u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/DownloadOniTunes_100x100.png\" width=\"75px\">\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://play.google.com/music/m/Ig3hk6qa4fzcgjp2kagptfgu4u4?t=The_Cooler\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/Google_Play_100x100.png\" width=\"75px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/div>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Certain historical events leave a mark. Some even go on to define entire generations. Where were you when JFK was shot? When Obama won the 2008 election? When Kurt Cobain died? When O.J. tried to speed away from the law in a Bronco? It makes sense why we can’t shake these moments; they changed the landscape of politics, culture, and so much more.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But iconic historical moments are not all created equal. There are macro events, like the ones mentioned above, that affect a grand swath of people, and then there are smaller, less significant cultural moments that only stick in the minds of a select few. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Do you remember where you were on May 23, 2007? I’m guessing that’s a no. But I do. That was the day Rosie O’Donnell and former \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Survivor\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> contestant / conservative pundit Elisabeth Hasselbeck yelled in each other’s faces on \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The View\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, leading to the show’s first use of a split-screen, and Rosie’s premature exit from the show. Daytime TV had never been so radical or so real.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But before we get into the impact of that moment, let’s get some backstory:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignright wp-image-83808\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-800x875.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"328\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-800x875.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-160x175.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-768x840.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-240x263.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-375x410.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-520x569.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs.jpg 936w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\">\u003c/a>Rosie O’Donnell made a name for herself in movies like \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A League of Their Own\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Flintstones\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sleepless in Seattle\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, and \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Harriet the Spy\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. But with her talk show, \u003cem>The Rosie O'Donnell Show\u003c/em>, she really shot to fame, like \u003ca href=\"https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0c/b4/01/0cb401d5fea759842810918bedb2ae6b.jpg\">a koosh ball arcing into a studio audience\u003c/a>. She came to be known as the \"Queen of Nice.\" She kept conversations with her celebrity guests fun and light. Still in the closet, she played up her love of Tom Cruise. She made strangers' lives better by giving away scholarships, donations, and gifts. She sang show tunes and geeked out over Barbara Streisand. She did everything Ellen now gets to do (thanks to Rosie paving the way).\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_83817\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 430px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-83817\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"430\" height=\"412\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts.jpg 680w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-160x153.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-240x230.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-375x359.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-520x498.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-32x32.jpg 32w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 430px) 100vw, 430px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo: ABC\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Rosie Show\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> ended, six seasons later in 2002, Rosie left the limelight to focus on her family. It wasn’t long before people in the industry tried to coax her back onto daytime television. She turned down all offers -- until one of her childhood idols, Barbara Walters, asked her to be the main host of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The View\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. She agreed, and returned to the space that put her on the map. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But the Rosie that showed up on set in 2006 was not the Rosie America had grown accustomed to. This new Rosie was an out lesbian who was no longer afraid to speak her mind on politics and everything else. Rather than keeping it cute, Rosie had found her voice and wasn’t going to give it up without a fight. After years of saying what America was ready to hear, she switched gears to what America \u003cem>needed\u003c/em> to hear.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-83821\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"315\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007.jpg 315w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007-240x178.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 315px) 100vw, 315px\">\u003c/a>Her stint on \u003ci>The View\u003c/i> lasted only a year, and was filled with drama at every turn. Fox News regularly attacked her for her views on the Iraq War and President George W. Bush. This, remember, was in the wake of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/14/dixie.chicks.reut/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dixie Chicks being blacklisted\u003c/a> for their political opinions, which created an environment that equated criticism of Bush and his administration's policies with being anti-American or unpatriotic. \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/07/politics/donald-trump-rosie-odonnell-feud/\">Donald Trump also got into the action, attacking Rosie \u003c/a>for bringing up his bankruptcies and mocking his combover, calling her \"a woman out of control\" and threatening to sue her (\"Rosie will rue the words she said. I'll most likely sue her for making those false statements -- and it'll be fun. Rosie's a loser. A real loser. I look forward to taking lots of money from my nice fat little Rosie\").\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As if that wasn't enough, Rosie had to regularly go toe-to-toe with panelist Elisabeth Hasselbeck, who was aided by an executive producer who -- rumor has it -- fed Hasselback with Republican party talking points every morning. Every weekday, in front of millions, Elisabeth would dish out an entrée of alternative facts, and Rosie would take the bait.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The near-constant sparring resulted in numerous news cycles of Rosie being painted as the alleged bully and antagonist to Hasselbeck’s innocent-seeming, pretty, conservative Christian (one\u003c/span> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Los Angeles Times \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">piece went with the headline\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\"\u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-goldberg3apr03-column.html\">The 'Queen of Nice' Goes Nuts\u003c/a>\")\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. The fact that Hasselbeck was pregnant for this particular season of \u003cem>The View\u003c/em> didn’t necessarily help optics.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_83822\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-83822\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-800x909.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"455\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-800x909.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-160x182.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-768x873.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-1020x1159.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-1920x2182.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-1180x1341.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-960x1091.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-240x273.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-375x426.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-520x591.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rosie and Barbara in happier times. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Each time some feud blossomed, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The View\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> enjoyed huge ratings, leading to a 17% increase in viewers from the previous Rosie-less season. Despite having a hit on their hands, things weren’t too joyous behind the scenes. A culture of distrust began to build; Rosie felt as though Walters, whom she thought of as a surrogate mother, didn’t have her back -- and that Walters and the show's producers were setting her up for more and more fireworks with Hasselbeck.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On May 23, 2007, everything finally boiled over. Comedian Joy Behar started a conversation about Al Gore and Jimmy Carter's belief that Bush was the country’s worst president, and listed Bush’s bad qualities (his handling of torture at Abu Ghraib; his response to Hurricane Katrina; his repeated mispronunciation of \"nuclear\"; the time he choked on a pretzel). Joy, Elisabeth, and Sherri Shepherd (a woman who, on a different episode of \u003cem>The View\u003c/em>, said \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkrkaH_V7fE\">the world might actually be flat\u003c/a>) got into it for several minutes, while Rosie sat quietly. Tired of having her words misconstrued by Fox News every night, she was waiting for the clock to run out on her contract in a few weeks. But she couldn’t help but say something in response to Elisabeth calling Iraqis our enemies.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Things quickly exploded:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAwoPLhJVAs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Six uninterrupted minutes of an epic, messy, personal fight ensued. The curtain was pulled back to reveal not just TV personalities debating \"hot topics,\" but one human being feeling betrayed and used by someone she thought was a friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This moment evokes and pokes holes in an idea that's been batted around a lot since the 2016 election -- that the way to heal the divisions in the country is for people from opposite ends of the political spectrum to engage in conversation. (If only liberals and conservatives had broken bread and chatted about their differences over some Budweisers, the thinking goes, then the country wouldn't have elected a man who called Mexican immigrants \"rapists,\" mocked a disabled reporter, promised to ban Muslims, and admitted to sexual assault on camera.) But no matter how good anyone's intentions may be, it can be impossible to have a productive dialogue when one person's belief system is founded in another's oppression, or argues against another's humanity and right to exist. There’s isn’t anywhere to go from there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">During the back-and-forth, Rosie noticed that the producers had placed a split-screen between the two women so that viewers at home could watch each of their faces getting redder and angrier. The split-screen had never been used on the program before, and Rosie has said that she believes they crafted it specifically for this inevitability, which they seemed to hope would happen someday. They got their wish, and Rosie didn't return to the show the next day -- or the following day, or the one after that. A few weeks before her contract expired, Rosie quit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP-x78w48Es\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last week marked that moment’s tenth anniversary. A lot has happened in the past 10 years, but has our discourse really changed that much? After a detour to the left during the oasis of Obama, we’re right back into a timeline where criticizing the President or his administration is seen as unpatriotic. These days, President Trump will tweet about any celebrity who criticizes him (Rosie is still one of his favorite targets, so much so that he randomly brought her up during one of the 2016 presidential debates). And, beyond celebrities, working journalists are regularly attacked -- figuratively and literally -- for reporting the facts. Trump declaring the press “the enemy of the people” and “fake news” has engendered a culture in which a Montana Republican seeking election \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/867535038749040640\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">body-slams a reporter for asking a question\u003c/a>, and it’s not even the most shocking news item of the day.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Every year, reality TV thrives more and more on conflict, overturned tables, wig tugs, and televised celebrity firings. It's gotten so bad that, on\u003cem> Love & Hip Hop Hollywood\u003c/em>,\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/Tacky_Nerd/status/656206312120975360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbossip.com%2F1242768%2Fyuck-on-yuck-lhhh-star-nikki-baby-mudarris-claps-back-at-nasty-nastassia-for-throwing-vomit-at-her-during-fight%2F\"> one woman vomited into her hand and threw it in another woman's face\u003c/a>. Has reality TV influenced us into becoming more conflict-oriented? Or has reality TV simply been holding up a mirror to what we already were? It's hard to say, but something that’s clear is that this moment between Rosie and Elisabeth foretold what we’re living through now: a culture of division, and a culture in which someone speaking or reporting truth will be smeared or punished. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignright wp-image-83818\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"517\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover.jpg 670w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover-160x207.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover-240x310.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover-375x485.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover-520x672.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>Since their epic showdown, Rosie has returned to stand-up and acting. Hasselbeck moved over to Fox News, where she was able to make statements like “\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Why has the Black Lives Matter movement not been classified yet as a hate group?\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">” before eventually being replaced by another young blonde woman. In 2014, when Elisabeth heard that Rosie was asked to return as a host of \u003cem>The View\u003c/em>, she did not take the high road: \"What could ruin a vacation more than to hear news like this?\" she said. \"Talk about not securing the border. Here comes to \u003cem>The View\u003c/em> the very woman who spit in the face of our military, spit in the face of her own network and really in the face of a person who stood by her and had civilized debates for the time that she was there. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I am happy to have a #momversation about why I would never defend her 2007 comments. #letfreedomring.\"\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As far as I know, Rosie didn't respond to Elisabeth's remarks or take her up on that \"#momversation,\" and I don't blame her. As comforting as the notion of healing through conversation may be, I don't see much hope for Rosie and Elisabeth to ever mend fences. And the way things have gone in the past 10 years, I'm not sure \"conversation\" is going to unite the divided left and right in America either. But I hope I'm wrong. I really do.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Ten years later, the explosive debate on 'The View' feels more prescient than ever.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1512008210,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":1887},"headData":{"title":"How Rosie O'Donnell vs. Elisabeth Hasselbeck Predicted Our Current Political Discourse | KQED","description":"Ten years later, the explosive debate on 'The View' feels more prescient than ever.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"How Rosie O'Donnell vs. Elisabeth Hasselbeck Predicted Our Current Political Discourse","datePublished":"2017-06-01T13:00:33.000Z","dateModified":"2017-11-30T02:16:50.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"82832 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=82832","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2017/06/01/how-rosie-odonnell-vs-elisabeth-hasselbeck-predicted-our-current-political-discourse/","disqusTitle":"How Rosie O'Donnell vs. Elisabeth Hasselbeck Predicted Our Current Political Discourse","path":"/pop/82832/how-rosie-odonnell-vs-elisabeth-hasselbeck-predicted-our-current-political-discourse","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>This piece was inspired by an episode of \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\">The Cooler\u003c/a>, KQED’s weekly pop culture podcast. Give it a listen!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"program":"The Cooler","image":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/03/clo.jpg","label":"src=\"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/www.kqed.org/.stream/mp3splice/radio/thecooler/2017/05/Diesel.mp3\" title=\"Rosie vs. Elisabeth, 10 Years Later\""},"numeric":["src=\"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/www.kqed.org/.stream/mp3splice/radio/thecooler/2017/05/Diesel.mp3\" title=\"Rosie","vs.","Elisabeth,","10","Years","Later\""]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"aligncenter\">\n\u003cdiv>\u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cooler/id1041117499?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/DownloadOniTunes_100x100.png\" width=\"75px\">\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://play.google.com/music/m/Ig3hk6qa4fzcgjp2kagptfgu4u4?t=The_Cooler\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/Google_Play_100x100.png\" width=\"75px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/div>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Certain historical events leave a mark. Some even go on to define entire generations. Where were you when JFK was shot? When Obama won the 2008 election? When Kurt Cobain died? When O.J. tried to speed away from the law in a Bronco? It makes sense why we can’t shake these moments; they changed the landscape of politics, culture, and so much more.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But iconic historical moments are not all created equal. There are macro events, like the ones mentioned above, that affect a grand swath of people, and then there are smaller, less significant cultural moments that only stick in the minds of a select few. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Do you remember where you were on May 23, 2007? I’m guessing that’s a no. But I do. That was the day Rosie O’Donnell and former \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Survivor\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> contestant / conservative pundit Elisabeth Hasselbeck yelled in each other’s faces on \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The View\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, leading to the show’s first use of a split-screen, and Rosie’s premature exit from the show. Daytime TV had never been so radical or so real.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But before we get into the impact of that moment, let’s get some backstory:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignright wp-image-83808\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-800x875.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"328\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-800x875.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-160x175.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-768x840.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-240x263.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-375x410.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs-520x569.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs.jpg 936w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\">\u003c/a>Rosie O’Donnell made a name for herself in movies like \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A League of Their Own\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Flintstones\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sleepless in Seattle\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, and \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Harriet the Spy\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. But with her talk show, \u003cem>The Rosie O'Donnell Show\u003c/em>, she really shot to fame, like \u003ca href=\"https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0c/b4/01/0cb401d5fea759842810918bedb2ae6b.jpg\">a koosh ball arcing into a studio audience\u003c/a>. She came to be known as the \"Queen of Nice.\" She kept conversations with her celebrity guests fun and light. Still in the closet, she played up her love of Tom Cruise. She made strangers' lives better by giving away scholarships, donations, and gifts. She sang show tunes and geeked out over Barbara Streisand. She did everything Ellen now gets to do (thanks to Rosie paving the way).\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_83817\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 430px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-83817\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"430\" height=\"412\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts.jpg 680w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-160x153.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-240x230.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-375x359.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-520x498.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-and-view-co-hosts-32x32.jpg 32w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 430px) 100vw, 430px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo: ABC\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Rosie Show\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> ended, six seasons later in 2002, Rosie left the limelight to focus on her family. It wasn’t long before people in the industry tried to coax her back onto daytime television. She turned down all offers -- until one of her childhood idols, Barbara Walters, asked her to be the main host of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The View\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. She agreed, and returned to the space that put her on the map. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But the Rosie that showed up on set in 2006 was not the Rosie America had grown accustomed to. This new Rosie was an out lesbian who was no longer afraid to speak her mind on politics and everything else. Rather than keeping it cute, Rosie had found her voice and wasn’t going to give it up without a fight. After years of saying what America was ready to hear, she switched gears to what America \u003cem>needed\u003c/em> to hear.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-83821\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"315\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007.jpg 315w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/oreillyrosie2007-240x178.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 315px) 100vw, 315px\">\u003c/a>Her stint on \u003ci>The View\u003c/i> lasted only a year, and was filled with drama at every turn. Fox News regularly attacked her for her views on the Iraq War and President George W. Bush. This, remember, was in the wake of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/14/dixie.chicks.reut/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dixie Chicks being blacklisted\u003c/a> for their political opinions, which created an environment that equated criticism of Bush and his administration's policies with being anti-American or unpatriotic. \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/07/politics/donald-trump-rosie-odonnell-feud/\">Donald Trump also got into the action, attacking Rosie \u003c/a>for bringing up his bankruptcies and mocking his combover, calling her \"a woman out of control\" and threatening to sue her (\"Rosie will rue the words she said. I'll most likely sue her for making those false statements -- and it'll be fun. Rosie's a loser. A real loser. I look forward to taking lots of money from my nice fat little Rosie\").\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As if that wasn't enough, Rosie had to regularly go toe-to-toe with panelist Elisabeth Hasselbeck, who was aided by an executive producer who -- rumor has it -- fed Hasselback with Republican party talking points every morning. Every weekday, in front of millions, Elisabeth would dish out an entrée of alternative facts, and Rosie would take the bait.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The near-constant sparring resulted in numerous news cycles of Rosie being painted as the alleged bully and antagonist to Hasselbeck’s innocent-seeming, pretty, conservative Christian (one\u003c/span> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Los Angeles Times \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">piece went with the headline\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\"\u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-goldberg3apr03-column.html\">The 'Queen of Nice' Goes Nuts\u003c/a>\")\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. The fact that Hasselbeck was pregnant for this particular season of \u003cem>The View\u003c/em> didn’t necessarily help optics.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_83822\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-83822\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-800x909.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"455\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-800x909.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-160x182.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-768x873.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-1020x1159.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-1920x2182.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-1180x1341.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-960x1091.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-240x273.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-375x426.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/GettyImages-57489257-520x591.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rosie and Barbara in happier times. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Each time some feud blossomed, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The View\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> enjoyed huge ratings, leading to a 17% increase in viewers from the previous Rosie-less season. Despite having a hit on their hands, things weren’t too joyous behind the scenes. A culture of distrust began to build; Rosie felt as though Walters, whom she thought of as a surrogate mother, didn’t have her back -- and that Walters and the show's producers were setting her up for more and more fireworks with Hasselbeck.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On May 23, 2007, everything finally boiled over. Comedian Joy Behar started a conversation about Al Gore and Jimmy Carter's belief that Bush was the country’s worst president, and listed Bush’s bad qualities (his handling of torture at Abu Ghraib; his response to Hurricane Katrina; his repeated mispronunciation of \"nuclear\"; the time he choked on a pretzel). Joy, Elisabeth, and Sherri Shepherd (a woman who, on a different episode of \u003cem>The View\u003c/em>, said \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkrkaH_V7fE\">the world might actually be flat\u003c/a>) got into it for several minutes, while Rosie sat quietly. Tired of having her words misconstrued by Fox News every night, she was waiting for the clock to run out on her contract in a few weeks. But she couldn’t help but say something in response to Elisabeth calling Iraqis our enemies.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Things quickly exploded:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/aAwoPLhJVAs'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/aAwoPLhJVAs'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Six uninterrupted minutes of an epic, messy, personal fight ensued. The curtain was pulled back to reveal not just TV personalities debating \"hot topics,\" but one human being feeling betrayed and used by someone she thought was a friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This moment evokes and pokes holes in an idea that's been batted around a lot since the 2016 election -- that the way to heal the divisions in the country is for people from opposite ends of the political spectrum to engage in conversation. (If only liberals and conservatives had broken bread and chatted about their differences over some Budweisers, the thinking goes, then the country wouldn't have elected a man who called Mexican immigrants \"rapists,\" mocked a disabled reporter, promised to ban Muslims, and admitted to sexual assault on camera.) But no matter how good anyone's intentions may be, it can be impossible to have a productive dialogue when one person's belief system is founded in another's oppression, or argues against another's humanity and right to exist. There’s isn’t anywhere to go from there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">During the back-and-forth, Rosie noticed that the producers had placed a split-screen between the two women so that viewers at home could watch each of their faces getting redder and angrier. The split-screen had never been used on the program before, and Rosie has said that she believes they crafted it specifically for this inevitability, which they seemed to hope would happen someday. They got their wish, and Rosie didn't return to the show the next day -- or the following day, or the one after that. A few weeks before her contract expired, Rosie quit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/NP-x78w48Es'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/NP-x78w48Es'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last week marked that moment’s tenth anniversary. A lot has happened in the past 10 years, but has our discourse really changed that much? After a detour to the left during the oasis of Obama, we’re right back into a timeline where criticizing the President or his administration is seen as unpatriotic. These days, President Trump will tweet about any celebrity who criticizes him (Rosie is still one of his favorite targets, so much so that he randomly brought her up during one of the 2016 presidential debates). And, beyond celebrities, working journalists are regularly attacked -- figuratively and literally -- for reporting the facts. Trump declaring the press “the enemy of the people” and “fake news” has engendered a culture in which a Montana Republican seeking election \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/867535038749040640\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">body-slams a reporter for asking a question\u003c/a>, and it’s not even the most shocking news item of the day.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Every year, reality TV thrives more and more on conflict, overturned tables, wig tugs, and televised celebrity firings. It's gotten so bad that, on\u003cem> Love & Hip Hop Hollywood\u003c/em>,\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/Tacky_Nerd/status/656206312120975360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbossip.com%2F1242768%2Fyuck-on-yuck-lhhh-star-nikki-baby-mudarris-claps-back-at-nasty-nastassia-for-throwing-vomit-at-her-during-fight%2F\"> one woman vomited into her hand and threw it in another woman's face\u003c/a>. Has reality TV influenced us into becoming more conflict-oriented? Or has reality TV simply been holding up a mirror to what we already were? It's hard to say, but something that’s clear is that this moment between Rosie and Elisabeth foretold what we’re living through now: a culture of division, and a culture in which someone speaking or reporting truth will be smeared or punished. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignright wp-image-83818\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"517\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover.jpg 670w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover-160x207.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover-240x310.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover-375x485.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/rosie-odonnel-returns-to-the-view-cover-520x672.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>Since their epic showdown, Rosie has returned to stand-up and acting. Hasselbeck moved over to Fox News, where she was able to make statements like “\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Why has the Black Lives Matter movement not been classified yet as a hate group?\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">” before eventually being replaced by another young blonde woman. In 2014, when Elisabeth heard that Rosie was asked to return as a host of \u003cem>The View\u003c/em>, she did not take the high road: \"What could ruin a vacation more than to hear news like this?\" she said. \"Talk about not securing the border. Here comes to \u003cem>The View\u003c/em> the very woman who spit in the face of our military, spit in the face of her own network and really in the face of a person who stood by her and had civilized debates for the time that she was there. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I am happy to have a #momversation about why I would never defend her 2007 comments. #letfreedomring.\"\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As far as I know, Rosie didn't respond to Elisabeth's remarks or take her up on that \"#momversation,\" and I don't blame her. As comforting as the notion of healing through conversation may be, I don't see much hope for Rosie and Elisabeth to ever mend fences. And the way things have gone in the past 10 years, I'm not sure \"conversation\" is going to unite the divided left and right in America either. But I hope I'm wrong. I really do.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/82832/how-rosie-odonnell-vs-elisabeth-hasselbeck-predicted-our-current-political-discourse","authors":["27"],"categories":["pop_1041"],"tags":["pop_2827","pop_1100","pop_2948","pop_2947"],"featImg":"pop_83761","label":"pop"},"pop_78579":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_78579","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"78579","score":null,"sort":[1493852670000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"steve-bannons-shakespearean-la-riots-play-is-just-as-terrible-as-youd-expect","title":"Steve Bannon's Shakespearean LA Riots Play Is Just As Terrible As You'd Expect","publishDate":1493852670,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Thanks to some stellar research by \u003ca href=\"https://nowthisnews.com/steve-bannon-hip-hop-rap-musical\">Now This News\u003c/a>, we now know that, one day in the not-that-distant past, \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon\">Steve Bannon\u003c/a> (currently President Trump's chief strategist) woke up and decided that writing a play based (extremely loosely) on William Shakespeare's \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolanus\">Coriolanus\u003c/a> \u003c/em>was an excellent idea\u003cem>.\u003c/em> He also inexplicably decided to\u003cem> \u003c/em>set the action in the midst of the LA riots. (You can't make this stuff up.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The good people at \u003ca href=\"https://nowthisnews.com/\">Now This\u003c/a> organized a table read and put the \u003ca href=\"https://nowthisnews.com/steve-bannon-hip-hop-rap-musical\">side-splitting results online\u003c/a>. You should know going into this that Bannon and his co-author Julia Jones somehow managed to reduce a play that was originally two and a half hours long, down to a little over 20 minutes. They titled it \u003cem>The Thing I Am,\u003c/em> re-purposed Coriolanus as a gang member (who, in his death, unites the Crips and Bloods -- but of course!), and massacred Shakespeare's original text.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For those of you brave enough, you can watch the full video here:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://nowthisnews.com/steve-bannon-hip-hop-rap-musical\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, for those of you wishing to avoid the stomach-churning awfulness of this thing, we decided to sit through it for you and make some notes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What follows are the five most startling aspects of \u003cem>The Thing I Am.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>1. BANNON AND JONES TRYING AND FAILING TO BE \"STREET\"\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You know that cringe-worthy thing when white kids from the suburbs try to be \"street\" and use lingo they've heard in their favorite rap songs? Bannon and Jones' screenplay sounds a bit like that, only 100 times more offensive because THEY ARE ADULTS.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>2. \u003cem>THE THING I AM\u003c/em> KIND OF STICKS TO THE ORIGINAL \u003cem>CORIOLANUS\u003c/em> TEXT, BUT THEN... TOTALLY NOT\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the most jarring elements of \u003cem>The Thing I Am\u003c/em> (aside from all the flagrant racism) is the juxtaposition of Shakespearean-style language and what Bannon and Jones consider street slang. The two styles aren't integrated, but instead thrown at each other and awkwardly mashed together at random.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even more strangely, there are entire sections of \u003cem>The Thing I Am\u003c/em> that steal phrasing from the original \u003cem>Coriolanus\u003c/em> text, only to pair it with flourishes of gratuitous cursing (or references to crack), for reasons that are entirely unfathomable. At one point, Volumnia and Virgilia conduct a conversation that is a super-watered down version of \u003cem>Coriolanus\u003c/em> Act 1, Scene 3, except in Bannon and Jones' version, Volumnia inserts a \"Bitch, please!\" into the exchange -- presumably because that's how Bannon and Jones think black people talk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's another one of the most astonishing examples of this happening:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>CORIOLANUS\u003c/em> ORIGINAL TEXT (Act 1, Scene 1):\u003cbr>\nMarcius: “He that depends upon your favors swims with fins of lead. Hang ye! Trust ye? With every minute you do change a mind.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>STEVE BANNON LITERARY NIGHTMARE SPIRAL:\u003cbr>\nMarcius: “Peep game, boy. To count on them for favors is to swim with fins of lead. So f**k you! Trust you? Ha ha ha! With each passing minute, you change your common mind. You cry against the other -- crackers, blood, crip, po-po, pol, the rich it doesn’t matter. N*ggas; awe keeps.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At any given moment, it is impossible to know whether to be offended, disturbed or grateful for the sheer accidental comedy on display in this thing...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>3. THE STAGE DIRECTIONS APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BY A 10-YEAR OLD BOY\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's difficult to know what Bannon and Jones were thinking when they came up with these directions (but we'd bet... not much):\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“\u003cem>Coriolanus stands out awkwardly among the upright citizenry, like a WWF wrestling hero, tight tee, muscles bulging\u003c/em>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“\u003cem>A wall of monitors, monstrous talking heads chewing the scenery… A Chris Matthews 'Hardball' type is setting up to interview Coriolanus\u003c/em>.”\u003cbr>\n[Which begs the question: What does Steve Bannon have against Chris Matthews?!]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“\u003cem>Aufidius says nothing. He checks the gun barrel, then picks up a rod and begins cleaning it. As he talks, the gun transforms: it’s deadly, it’s sexual\u003c/em>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is this what life looks and sounds like inside Steve Bannon's brain? It would explain so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>4. MOST ASTOUNDING LINES\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In all fairness, most of the lines of \u003cem>The Thing I Am\u003c/em> are pretty astonishing, but the following get special mentions for being particularly jaw-dropping / offensive:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rider: “Coriolanus is king o’ the day. The bitches are going off crazy like frogs, and the wiggers are kissin' his ass.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coriolanus: “Why in this house n*gger suit would I sit here to mad-dog Dick and Jane?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gangsta Voiceover: “Let’s unite and don’t gangbang, and let it be a black thing for the little black girl and homie Rodney King. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. If LAPD hurt a black, we’ll kill two. Pow, pow, pow.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coriolanus: “You who’d be less chicken-shit than Uncle Tom, who loves a noble life more than a long…”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guard 1: “Who let the po-po beat him? You think the groans of bitches or your virgin daughter… will blow out the fire intended for your city?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Crip Soldiers: “Red rum! Red rum! Red rum!”\u003cbr>\n[We imagine that only stealing from Shakespeare was exhausting for Bannon and Jones, so they threw some action from \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1sRAd_i2W4\">\u003cem>The Shining\u003c/em>\u003c/a> in for good measure. Thanks, guys!]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>5. AWARD-WORTHY ACTING\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aside from an appearance from ex-\u003cem>Daily Show\u003c/em> favorite, \u003ca href=\"http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1117791/\">Rob Corddry\u003c/a>, we don't know where \u003cem>Now This\u003c/em> found the actors for their table-read, but the level of discipline on display, in the face of some of the worst dialogue ever committed to page, is award-worthy. It's impossible not to be impressed by the sight of an entire room full of people battling successfully to keep straight faces after shouting: \"Peace out, cuz!\" at one another.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Special mention must go to the actor playing Junius Brutus, who delivers the lines “You motherf**ker!” and “The people are pissed,” with a Shakespearean gravitas that suggests both lines qualify as reasonable dialogue in this context. Somebody get this man an Academy Award! Bannon and Jones, on the other hand, would undoubtedly be better suited for the \u003ca href=\"http://www.razzies.com/\">The Razzies\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"We're not kidding. This is an actual real thing.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1493863411,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":33,"wordCount":1099},"headData":{"title":"Steve Bannon's Shakespearean LA Riots Play Is Just As Terrible As You'd Expect | KQED","description":"We're not kidding. This is an actual real thing.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Steve Bannon's Shakespearean LA Riots Play Is Just As Terrible As You'd Expect","datePublished":"2017-05-03T23:04:30.000Z","dateModified":"2017-05-04T02:03:31.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"78579 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=78579","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2017/05/03/steve-bannons-shakespearean-la-riots-play-is-just-as-terrible-as-youd-expect/","disqusTitle":"Steve Bannon's Shakespearean LA Riots Play Is Just As Terrible As You'd Expect","path":"/pop/78579/steve-bannons-shakespearean-la-riots-play-is-just-as-terrible-as-youd-expect","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Thanks to some stellar research by \u003ca href=\"https://nowthisnews.com/steve-bannon-hip-hop-rap-musical\">Now This News\u003c/a>, we now know that, one day in the not-that-distant past, \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon\">Steve Bannon\u003c/a> (currently President Trump's chief strategist) woke up and decided that writing a play based (extremely loosely) on William Shakespeare's \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolanus\">Coriolanus\u003c/a> \u003c/em>was an excellent idea\u003cem>.\u003c/em> He also inexplicably decided to\u003cem> \u003c/em>set the action in the midst of the LA riots. (You can't make this stuff up.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The good people at \u003ca href=\"https://nowthisnews.com/\">Now This\u003c/a> organized a table read and put the \u003ca href=\"https://nowthisnews.com/steve-bannon-hip-hop-rap-musical\">side-splitting results online\u003c/a>. You should know going into this that Bannon and his co-author Julia Jones somehow managed to reduce a play that was originally two and a half hours long, down to a little over 20 minutes. They titled it \u003cem>The Thing I Am,\u003c/em> re-purposed Coriolanus as a gang member (who, in his death, unites the Crips and Bloods -- but of course!), and massacred Shakespeare's original text.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For those of you brave enough, you can watch the full video here:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://nowthisnews.com/steve-bannon-hip-hop-rap-musical\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, for those of you wishing to avoid the stomach-churning awfulness of this thing, we decided to sit through it for you and make some notes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What follows are the five most startling aspects of \u003cem>The Thing I Am.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>1. BANNON AND JONES TRYING AND FAILING TO BE \"STREET\"\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You know that cringe-worthy thing when white kids from the suburbs try to be \"street\" and use lingo they've heard in their favorite rap songs? Bannon and Jones' screenplay sounds a bit like that, only 100 times more offensive because THEY ARE ADULTS.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>2. \u003cem>THE THING I AM\u003c/em> KIND OF STICKS TO THE ORIGINAL \u003cem>CORIOLANUS\u003c/em> TEXT, BUT THEN... TOTALLY NOT\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the most jarring elements of \u003cem>The Thing I Am\u003c/em> (aside from all the flagrant racism) is the juxtaposition of Shakespearean-style language and what Bannon and Jones consider street slang. The two styles aren't integrated, but instead thrown at each other and awkwardly mashed together at random.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even more strangely, there are entire sections of \u003cem>The Thing I Am\u003c/em> that steal phrasing from the original \u003cem>Coriolanus\u003c/em> text, only to pair it with flourishes of gratuitous cursing (or references to crack), for reasons that are entirely unfathomable. At one point, Volumnia and Virgilia conduct a conversation that is a super-watered down version of \u003cem>Coriolanus\u003c/em> Act 1, Scene 3, except in Bannon and Jones' version, Volumnia inserts a \"Bitch, please!\" into the exchange -- presumably because that's how Bannon and Jones think black people talk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's another one of the most astonishing examples of this happening:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>CORIOLANUS\u003c/em> ORIGINAL TEXT (Act 1, Scene 1):\u003cbr>\nMarcius: “He that depends upon your favors swims with fins of lead. Hang ye! Trust ye? With every minute you do change a mind.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>STEVE BANNON LITERARY NIGHTMARE SPIRAL:\u003cbr>\nMarcius: “Peep game, boy. To count on them for favors is to swim with fins of lead. So f**k you! Trust you? Ha ha ha! With each passing minute, you change your common mind. You cry against the other -- crackers, blood, crip, po-po, pol, the rich it doesn’t matter. N*ggas; awe keeps.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At any given moment, it is impossible to know whether to be offended, disturbed or grateful for the sheer accidental comedy on display in this thing...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>3. THE STAGE DIRECTIONS APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BY A 10-YEAR OLD BOY\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's difficult to know what Bannon and Jones were thinking when they came up with these directions (but we'd bet... not much):\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“\u003cem>Coriolanus stands out awkwardly among the upright citizenry, like a WWF wrestling hero, tight tee, muscles bulging\u003c/em>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“\u003cem>A wall of monitors, monstrous talking heads chewing the scenery… A Chris Matthews 'Hardball' type is setting up to interview Coriolanus\u003c/em>.”\u003cbr>\n[Which begs the question: What does Steve Bannon have against Chris Matthews?!]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“\u003cem>Aufidius says nothing. He checks the gun barrel, then picks up a rod and begins cleaning it. As he talks, the gun transforms: it’s deadly, it’s sexual\u003c/em>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is this what life looks and sounds like inside Steve Bannon's brain? It would explain so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>4. MOST ASTOUNDING LINES\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In all fairness, most of the lines of \u003cem>The Thing I Am\u003c/em> are pretty astonishing, but the following get special mentions for being particularly jaw-dropping / offensive:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rider: “Coriolanus is king o’ the day. The bitches are going off crazy like frogs, and the wiggers are kissin' his ass.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coriolanus: “Why in this house n*gger suit would I sit here to mad-dog Dick and Jane?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gangsta Voiceover: “Let’s unite and don’t gangbang, and let it be a black thing for the little black girl and homie Rodney King. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. If LAPD hurt a black, we’ll kill two. Pow, pow, pow.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coriolanus: “You who’d be less chicken-shit than Uncle Tom, who loves a noble life more than a long…”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guard 1: “Who let the po-po beat him? You think the groans of bitches or your virgin daughter… will blow out the fire intended for your city?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Crip Soldiers: “Red rum! Red rum! Red rum!”\u003cbr>\n[We imagine that only stealing from Shakespeare was exhausting for Bannon and Jones, so they threw some action from \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1sRAd_i2W4\">\u003cem>The Shining\u003c/em>\u003c/a> in for good measure. Thanks, guys!]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>5. AWARD-WORTHY ACTING\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aside from an appearance from ex-\u003cem>Daily Show\u003c/em> favorite, \u003ca href=\"http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1117791/\">Rob Corddry\u003c/a>, we don't know where \u003cem>Now This\u003c/em> found the actors for their table-read, but the level of discipline on display, in the face of some of the worst dialogue ever committed to page, is award-worthy. It's impossible not to be impressed by the sight of an entire room full of people battling successfully to keep straight faces after shouting: \"Peace out, cuz!\" at one another.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Special mention must go to the actor playing Junius Brutus, who delivers the lines “You motherf**ker!” and “The people are pissed,” with a Shakespearean gravitas that suggests both lines qualify as reasonable dialogue in this context. Somebody get this man an Academy Award! Bannon and Jones, on the other hand, would undoubtedly be better suited for the \u003ca href=\"http://www.razzies.com/\">The Razzies\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/78579/steve-bannons-shakespearean-la-riots-play-is-just-as-terrible-as-youd-expect","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_1536","pop_1041"],"tags":["pop_2827","pop_2943"],"featImg":"pop_78620","label":"pop"},"pop_75203":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_75203","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"75203","score":null,"sort":[1492197601000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"alec-baldwin-on-career-highs-and-lows-and-playing-a-larger-than-life-trump","title":"Alec Baldwin On Career Highs And Lows And Playing A 'Larger Than Life' Trump","publishDate":1492197601,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Alec Baldwin has been keeping busy lately. The star of the animated film \u003cem>The Boss Baby \u003c/em>has a new memoir out and also keeps popping up on\u003cem> Saturday Night Live\u003c/em> to play President Trump.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Baldwin tells \u003cem>Fresh Air\u003c/em>'s Terry Gross that his impression of the president is purposefully exaggerated. \"We're doing it live on a TV show at 11:30 at night in front of a live audience, so there's a kind of volume to it,\" he says. \"It's kind of the Macy's Day Parade [version] of Trump — it's a very larger-than-life thing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Baldwin grew up in a family of six kids on Long Island, N.Y. His father, a dedicated high school teacher, didn't make much money, but they bonded over late-night classic movies. Initially, Baldwin thought he would pursue a career in law and government, but he decided instead to go into acting — much to the chagrin of his mother. \"She was apoplectic,\" Baldwin says. \"She was screaming on the phone, 'What is wrong with you?' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Baldwin details his entry into show business, as well as the highs and lows of his career and his life, in his memoir, \u003cem>Nevertheless.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Interview Highlights\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On his Trump impression on \u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>\u003cem>SNL \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I say, \"Left eyebrow up, right eyebrow down, stick your mouth out as far as you can like you're trying to bite somebody's nose off, and just kind of growl with that irritability. ...\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The [thing] I try to lock into and kind of hold on to just for that brief five minutes of the cold opening is [Trump] not having any fun. ... He doesn't shut up about how rich he is. He doesn't stop talking about how much money he has, and how much privilege he has ... and he just seems miserable. If he's an advertisement for wealth and privilege, then, good God, I think it's terrible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On how growing up in a household with five siblings affected him later in life\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I walked out of that house with almost crippling OCD. Like I'd be standing in the hallway of my apartment in New York and the driver was downstairs and I needed to get into the car now, like right now, or I was going to miss my flight, and I'd be making sure that all the books were stacked neatly on the table in the entry hall of my apartment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'd be sitting there literally with my thumbs squeezing the books so all the seams were right and the books were stacked just so, and whoever was primary in my life would be looking at me like, \"You're kidding, right? You realize we're going to miss the flight.\" I'd be like, \"Excuse me?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I didn't realize it was all coming out of this house of mine, which was just a hurricane and a mess all the time, because my mother just didn't have the energy to clean up after six kids all the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On taking high-paying roles instead of following his passion for creative work \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even unconsciously, my whole life became about \u003cem>I don't want to be like my dad.\u003c/em> ... I don't want to get in trouble financially. A man's job is to make as much money as he can, that's it. That's it. ... That effed up my career in some ways; I didn't really do what I wanted to do careerwise. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's a turning point, which I view clearly as a turning point, there's a spell of time there where I go and I don't do \u003cem>Prelude to a Kiss\u003c/em> on Broadway and I go do \u003cem>The \u003c/em>\u003cem>Marrying Man\u003c/em>, because they're going to pay me a million dollars for the first time in my life, and I thought, \"Well, that's who I am. I'm a guy that's going to star in films, and you're going to pay me a lot of money, and that's the career I want to have.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The movie was not a good movie, and I should've done \u003cem>Prelude\u003c/em>. I should've followed the instincts I had up 'till then. My instincts, if I had followed them, I would've gone to Broadway, and I would not have chased the money, but I did the money instead, because people talked me into that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On staying committed to his work as an actor\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think that people who are actors very often ... have kind of a phobia of being caught undercommitted to their work. ... When I did \u003cem>Mission Impossible\u003c/em> a couple of years ago with Tom Cruise ... I said to Tom, \"What motivates you?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some way Tom is mesmerizing to me, in terms of his career and his work ethic. I said, \"What drives you now? You're so many years into this.\" ... He says, \"I gotta give them their money's worth ... on both ends, the people who are writing me my check and the people who are buying tickets to the film. I've got to give on both ends.\" ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I've felt that same way. 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