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But it’s unclear which departments or projects the employees were involved in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Apple did not immediately respond to a request for comment early Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Cupertino company had been a notable exception as other tech companies slashed their workforces over the past two years. There was a massive surge in hiring during the COVID-19 pandemic, when people spent more time and money online, and big tech companies are still larger than before the pandemic. Still, as growth slows, companies are focusing on cutting costs. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11979609","hero":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/03/240313-GAMEINDUSTRY-JY-003-KQED-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>In a recent regulatory filing, Apple said it had about 161,000 full-time equivalent employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this week, Amazon announced a \u003ca style=\"font-weight: var(--font-weight-reg)\" href=\"https://apnews.com/article/amazon-aws-layoffs-cloud-a26feee15793a65dca046b99e780943e#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20the%20physical,as%20well%20as%20sales%20operations.\">fresh round of layoffs\u003c/a>, this time at its cloud computing business AWS. In recent months, video game maker \u003ca style=\"font-weight: var(--font-weight-reg)\" href=\"https://apnews.com/article/electronic-arts-layoffs-sony-microsoft-8725a896ccbd19c324b48f8c69981677\">Electronic Arts\u003c/a> said it’s cutting about 5% of its workforce, \u003ca style=\"font-weight: var(--font-weight-reg)\" href=\"https://apnews.com/article/sony-interactive-jobs-playstation-1f85ae1c0bdda667bd59ee87ac912000\">Sony\u003c/a> said it is axing about 900 jobs in its PlayStation division, \u003ca style=\"font-weight: var(--font-weight-reg)\" href=\"https://apnews.com/article/cisco-systems-layoffs-technology-trend-artificial-intelligence-28dc2ba343f65151c2187fd3f446ee7e\">Cisco Systems\u003c/a> revealed plans to lay off more than 4,000 workers and social media company Snap, owner of \u003ca style=\"font-weight: var(--font-weight-reg)\" href=\"https://apnews.com/article/snapchat-snap-layoffs-tech-b67df4deb437af7fc1612425a379cdd4\">Snapchat\u003c/a>, announced it is slashing 10% of its global workforce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11982005/apple-cuts-over-600-california-workers-in-first-post-pandemic-layoff-wave","authors":["byline_news_11982005"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_19182","news_26334","news_352","news_1749","news_5745","news_1631"],"featImg":"news_11982008","label":"news"},"news_11945357":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11945357","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11945357","score":null,"sort":[1680354039000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"googles-ghost-workers-demand-to-be-seen-seeking-better-wages-and-benefits-from-tech-giant","title":"Google's 'Ghost Workers' Demand to Be Seen, Seeking Better Wages and Benefits From Tech Giant","publishDate":1680354039,"format":"standard","headTitle":"NPR | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":253,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Teresa Partain has a job few people know exists. She's a content moderator for Google's ads engine and many of her colleagues do the same work for Google Search. Their job is to make sure the results people see are accurate and not spam or scams. Google calls these workers \"quality raters,\" but Partain said they call themselves \"ghost workers.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Most people — even at Google — have no idea that we exist,\" Partain said. \"They don't know that there are human beings doing a lot of the work. They think that the software is magic and already perfect and doesn't need maintenance. And that's just not true.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But now they want to be seen. They've written letters to Google executives, held a rally outside the company's Silicon Valley headquarters and created a petition to demand benefits and better pay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Partain isn't employed by Google directly, but by a subcontractor called Appen. And, she said, that employment setup is what has led to worker grievances — mainly low wages, no benefits and isolation from colleagues. Partain is one of at least 10,000 people worldwide doing this job, according to Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They work from home and even though they're employed by subcontractors, they're given assignments directly by Google. Partain evaluates the quality and placement of Google ads, while her colleagues rate the quality of Google Search results. Their tasks can range from confirming a search for \"carrot cake recipe\" brings up relevant results to making sure an airfare ad doesn't appear next to a news story about a plane crash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Without them, Google Search wouldn't function smoothly. Google says it gets \u003ca href=\"https://www.google.com/search/howsearchworks/how-search-works/rigorous-testing/\">billions of queries\u003c/a> every day and it's constantly making improvements to ensure its algorithms keep up. Danny Sullivan, the company's public liaison for Search, wrote in a\u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/search/raters-experiments-improve-google-search/\"> blog post\u003c/a> that getting feedback from raters is \"a key part of our evaluation process.\"[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Roberto Clack, executive director, Temp Worker Justice\"]'A lot of people don't really understand just how prevalent the subcontracting and staffing agency usage is. These models are really the driving force towards lower labor standards.'[/pullquote]Raters work on Google's two most vital products — Search and ads. In 2022, Google made more than \u003ca href=\"https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/20230203_alphabet_10K.pdf?cache=5ae4398\">$224 billion in revenue (PDF)\u003c/a> from Search and advertising, accounting for more than 79% of its total revenue. For comparison, that's more than the entire gross domestic product of Greece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We support billions of dollars of revenue,\" Google rater Ed Stackhouse told NPR. \"And we get paid less than your average fast food worker.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google raters who work for Appen make between $14 and $14.50 an hour and under company policy can't work more than 29 hours a week. Raters who spoke with NPR said they have health conditions or family needs that require them to work from home and they appreciate they can do that. But, since they can't work more than 29 hours a week, they're not eligible for benefits like health care and sick leave.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google spokesperson Courtenay Mencini told NPR in a statement that \"Our suppliers manage all employment terms for the raters, including pay and benefits.\" Appen, which is an Australian company that has other big tech clients such as Salesforce and LinkedIn, didn't respond to multiple requests for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Ramping up the pressure\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>A group of about 50 Google workers gathered in an outdoor courtyard at the company's sprawling California headquarters in February. Many of them wore red t-shirts that sported the Alphabet Workers Union logo, which is a labor group made up of people who work for Google and its parent company Alphabet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They unfurled a massive white cloth banner that read, \"Google: End Rater Poverty\" and chanted \"Equal pay for equal work.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Raters had come from around the country to hand deliver a \u003ca href=\"https://www.ratersunion.org/\">petition\u003c/a> to Prabhakar Raghavan, Google's senior vice president in charge of Search, ads and other divisions. The petition, which has now been signed by more than 850 raters, asks Raghavan to meet with them to discuss better pay and benefits.[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Ed Stackhouse, Google rater\"]'We support billions of dollars of revenue. And we get paid less than your average fast food worker.'[/pullquote]Partain flew in from Kansas for the rally and said she'd been a rater for more than seven years and that she and her colleagues \"want to be able to do our job well, earn a dignified wage and have access to basic benefits.\" The raters were joined by worker advocates, local politicians and union representatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"A lot of people don't really understand just how prevalent the subcontracting and staffing agency usage is,\" said Roberto Clack, executive director of Temp Worker Justice, a nonprofit that advocates for contract workers. \"These models are really the driving force towards lower labor standards.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google's Mencini declined to provide numbers on the company's subcontractor workforce. But, according to estimates from the Alphabet Workers Union, Alphabet has around 200,000 contract workers worldwide who do \u003ca href=\"https://everygoogleworker.alphabetworkersunion.org/\">all sorts of jobs\u003c/a>. That's more than 50% of the company's total workforce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv>\n\u003cp>The raters' pressure campaign on Google began last year. With the help of Alphabet Workers Union, they began meeting each other and organizing online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, Alphabet Workers Union published an open letter to Raghavan demanding the company raise pay for raters. Then, in January of this year, raters who work for Appen \u003ca href=\"https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardnieva/2023/01/11/google-search-quality-rater-raise/\">got their first-ever raise\u003c/a> to $14 or $14.50 an hour, based on seniority. Previously, workers made roughly $10 to $13 an hour.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the February rally, Appen raters were told they'd get another raise by the end of this year that would increase their pay to $15 an hour. Then, a couple weeks later, Appen sent them an email saying the hours they work could be extended from the previous maximum of 26 hours per week to what raters have now — 29 hours per week. Raters can work their own hours, but it can be no more than 29 per week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So, the magic 30 hours a week is what we can't go past,\" Partain said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google's Mencini told NPR that the company's \u003ca href=\"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/support.google.com/corporate-suppliers/answer/10208902/*zippy=__;Iw!!Iwwt!Ub5DUC5iYYOJz9Y7sePkrMr9s_4Id4QlDovj04rf7c2RxXO5jdmw1TQ2oA5dU4_x1Qyq8MnV7RFg%24\">Wages and Benefits standards\u003c/a> — which would provide health care and sick leave to contractors — only apply to people who are assigned to Google at least 30 hours per week and have access to the company's corporate systems or campuses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Raters say that as long as they haven't met that threshold, they're going to keep up the pressure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What we're asking for now is just to be allowed to get the same benefits as people who work 30 hours a week are supposed to get,\" Partain said. \"And if we have to work 30 hours a week in order to get them, people would be happy to do that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As far as a response from Raghavan to meet with them, raters say they're still waiting.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Google's 'quality raters' — who refer to themselves as 'ghost workers' — are employed through subcontractors and number around 10,000 worldwide, helping the company generate 'billions in revenue.' 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Google calls these workers \"quality raters,\" but Partain said they call themselves \"ghost workers.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Most people — even at Google — have no idea that we exist,\" Partain said. \"They don't know that there are human beings doing a lot of the work. They think that the software is magic and already perfect and doesn't need maintenance. And that's just not true.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But now they want to be seen. They've written letters to Google executives, held a rally outside the company's Silicon Valley headquarters and created a petition to demand benefits and better pay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Partain isn't employed by Google directly, but by a subcontractor called Appen. And, she said, that employment setup is what has led to worker grievances — mainly low wages, no benefits and isolation from colleagues. Partain is one of at least 10,000 people worldwide doing this job, according to Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They work from home and even though they're employed by subcontractors, they're given assignments directly by Google. Partain evaluates the quality and placement of Google ads, while her colleagues rate the quality of Google Search results. Their tasks can range from confirming a search for \"carrot cake recipe\" brings up relevant results to making sure an airfare ad doesn't appear next to a news story about a plane crash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Without them, Google Search wouldn't function smoothly. Google says it gets \u003ca href=\"https://www.google.com/search/howsearchworks/how-search-works/rigorous-testing/\">billions of queries\u003c/a> every day and it's constantly making improvements to ensure its algorithms keep up. Danny Sullivan, the company's public liaison for Search, wrote in a\u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/search/raters-experiments-improve-google-search/\"> blog post\u003c/a> that getting feedback from raters is \"a key part of our evaluation process.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'A lot of people don't really understand just how prevalent the subcontracting and staffing agency usage is. These models are really the driving force towards lower labor standards.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Roberto Clack, executive director, Temp Worker Justice","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Raters work on Google's two most vital products — Search and ads. In 2022, Google made more than \u003ca href=\"https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/20230203_alphabet_10K.pdf?cache=5ae4398\">$224 billion in revenue (PDF)\u003c/a> from Search and advertising, accounting for more than 79% of its total revenue. For comparison, that's more than the entire gross domestic product of Greece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We support billions of dollars of revenue,\" Google rater Ed Stackhouse told NPR. \"And we get paid less than your average fast food worker.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google raters who work for Appen make between $14 and $14.50 an hour and under company policy can't work more than 29 hours a week. Raters who spoke with NPR said they have health conditions or family needs that require them to work from home and they appreciate they can do that. But, since they can't work more than 29 hours a week, they're not eligible for benefits like health care and sick leave.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google spokesperson Courtenay Mencini told NPR in a statement that \"Our suppliers manage all employment terms for the raters, including pay and benefits.\" Appen, which is an Australian company that has other big tech clients such as Salesforce and LinkedIn, didn't respond to multiple requests for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Ramping up the pressure\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>A group of about 50 Google workers gathered in an outdoor courtyard at the company's sprawling California headquarters in February. Many of them wore red t-shirts that sported the Alphabet Workers Union logo, which is a labor group made up of people who work for Google and its parent company Alphabet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They unfurled a massive white cloth banner that read, \"Google: End Rater Poverty\" and chanted \"Equal pay for equal work.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Raters had come from around the country to hand deliver a \u003ca href=\"https://www.ratersunion.org/\">petition\u003c/a> to Prabhakar Raghavan, Google's senior vice president in charge of Search, ads and other divisions. The petition, which has now been signed by more than 850 raters, asks Raghavan to meet with them to discuss better pay and benefits.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'We support billions of dollars of revenue. And we get paid less than your average fast food worker.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Ed Stackhouse, Google rater","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Partain flew in from Kansas for the rally and said she'd been a rater for more than seven years and that she and her colleagues \"want to be able to do our job well, earn a dignified wage and have access to basic benefits.\" The raters were joined by worker advocates, local politicians and union representatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"A lot of people don't really understand just how prevalent the subcontracting and staffing agency usage is,\" said Roberto Clack, executive director of Temp Worker Justice, a nonprofit that advocates for contract workers. \"These models are really the driving force towards lower labor standards.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google's Mencini declined to provide numbers on the company's subcontractor workforce. But, according to estimates from the Alphabet Workers Union, Alphabet has around 200,000 contract workers worldwide who do \u003ca href=\"https://everygoogleworker.alphabetworkersunion.org/\">all sorts of jobs\u003c/a>. That's more than 50% of the company's total workforce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv>\n\u003cp>The raters' pressure campaign on Google began last year. With the help of Alphabet Workers Union, they began meeting each other and organizing online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, Alphabet Workers Union published an open letter to Raghavan demanding the company raise pay for raters. Then, in January of this year, raters who work for Appen \u003ca href=\"https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardnieva/2023/01/11/google-search-quality-rater-raise/\">got their first-ever raise\u003c/a> to $14 or $14.50 an hour, based on seniority. Previously, workers made roughly $10 to $13 an hour.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the February rally, Appen raters were told they'd get another raise by the end of this year that would increase their pay to $15 an hour. Then, a couple weeks later, Appen sent them an email saying the hours they work could be extended from the previous maximum of 26 hours per week to what raters have now — 29 hours per week. Raters can work their own hours, but it can be no more than 29 per week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So, the magic 30 hours a week is what we can't go past,\" Partain said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google's Mencini told NPR that the company's \u003ca href=\"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/support.google.com/corporate-suppliers/answer/10208902/*zippy=__;Iw!!Iwwt!Ub5DUC5iYYOJz9Y7sePkrMr9s_4Id4QlDovj04rf7c2RxXO5jdmw1TQ2oA5dU4_x1Qyq8MnV7RFg%24\">Wages and Benefits standards\u003c/a> — which would provide health care and sick leave to contractors — only apply to people who are assigned to Google at least 30 hours per week and have access to the company's corporate systems or campuses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Raters say that as long as they haven't met that threshold, they're going to keep up the pressure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What we're asking for now is just to be allowed to get the same benefits as people who work 30 hours a week are supposed to get,\" Partain said. \"And if we have to work 30 hours a week in order to get them, people would be happy to do that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As far as a response from Raghavan to meet with them, raters say they're still waiting.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11945357/googles-ghost-workers-demand-to-be-seen-seeking-better-wages-and-benefits-from-tech-giant","authors":["byline_news_11945357"],"categories":["news_31795","news_1758","news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_24027","news_32595","news_32594","news_18538","news_18545","news_32593","news_93","news_353","news_30362","news_5745","news_1631"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11945374","label":"news_253"},"news_11933511":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11933511","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11933511","score":null,"sort":[1669780716000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"mass-bay-area-tech-layoffs-thrust-thousands-of-h-1b-visa-holders-into-frantic-job-hunt","title":"Mass Bay Area Tech Layoffs Thrust Thousands of H-1B Visa Holders Into Frantic Job Hunt","publishDate":1669780716,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://layoffs.fyi/\">Mass layoffs\u003c/a> have pitched thousands of Bay Area workers into a desperate search to find another employer before they’re required to self-deport.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Vidhi Agrawal, commercial operations director, Databricks\"]'It's a sudden thing that happens, and you have family, you have kids here, who've grown up here. And to uproot, sell everything and move back to your home country, within two months. For any human, any individual, it's hard.'[/pullquote]An unemployed H-1B visa holder has to find a new employer, or “sponsor,” within 60 days, or leave the country. Thousands of Bay Area tech and biotech workers have surged onto sites like LinkedIn, frantically looking for friendly faces, like 36-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/vidhiagrawal/\">Vidhi Agrawal\u003c/a> of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An H-1B visa holder herself, Agrawal works at the San Francisco software company Databricks. She and a friend have been running an informal database linking H-1B visa holders with prospective employers. In the last two weeks, the off-hours project has exploded from roughly 50 friends and acquaintances to over 500 people nationwide. She’s also in contact with about 100 hiring managers and recruiters from multiple companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a sudden thing that happens, and you have family, you have kids here, who’ve grown up here,” said Agrawal. “And to uproot, sell everything and move back to your home country, within two months. For any human, any individual, it’s hard.” To make matters worse, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11913665/200000-documented-dreamers-are-literally-waiting-a-lifetime-for-a-green-card\">many Indian H-1B holders are in a years-long queue to get a green card\u003c/a>, and leaving the country is tantamount to letting go of a huge investment of time and patience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Agrawal added that H-1B visa workers are always particularly vulnerable to layoffs. “We did sign up for this. When we come on work visas, we know what we’re signing up for. It’s not, like, things have changed on us,” she said.[aside postID=\"news_11913665,news_11931311,forum_2010101891200\" label=\"Related Posts\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the very least, \u003ca href=\"https://www.immihelp.com/h-1b-visa-layoff-and-60-days-grace-period/\">employers are required to notify federal immigration authorities and cover the cost of a plane flight back to the home country\u003c/a> when they lay off H-1B workers. Many companies, however, offer more support than that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Remarking on the mass layoffs at Meta, \u003ca href=\"https://about.fb.com/news/2022/11/mark-zuckerberg-layoff-message-to-employees/\">Mark Zuckerberg, for instance, wrote\u003c/a>, “I know this is especially difficult if you’re here on a visa. There’s a notice period before termination and some visa grace periods, which means everyone will have time to make plans and work through their immigration status. We have dedicated immigration specialists to help guide you based on what you and your family need.” Private attorneys, of course, are eager to help for a fee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-on-our-team\">Lyft\u003c/a> offers those on visas \u003ca href=\"https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-on-our-team\">the option to extend employment (with no expectation to work)\u003c/a> for an additional eight weeks in lieu of eight weeks of severance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That's a huge benefit, because it means they have a greater time runway,” said Sophie Alcorn, who runs \u003ca href=\"https://www.alcorn.law/\">Alcorn Immigration Law\u003c/a> in Mountain View and writes about immigration for \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/07/dear-sophie-how-can-i-stay-in-the-us-if-ive-been-laid-off/\">TechCrunch\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of the laid-off tech workers have plenty of savings. They could find another job eventually. But getting through the holiday season with Thanksgiving just now and the December holidays, plus the hiring freezes, it's going to be really hard to get an offer within the 60-day grace period that would allow the future employer to have enough prep time to do the three to four weeks of work that it takes to get an H-1B ready for filing with the government,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of people familiar with American immigration law say the 60-day grace period doesn't accurately reflect the panic many workers and their families are in right now because of the paperwork involved in transitioning to a new job. “There's a whole prefiling subcomponent with a totally different government agency besides USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) and the Department of Homeland Security,” Alcorn explained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You have to get a certified labor condition application approved with the Department of Labor. Plus, many of the companies that have the funds to hire right now are early stage tech companies who listen to their venture capitalists and preserve their cash. So now they can hire, which is great. But if they're new to the immigration process, getting set up as a petitioning employer takes additional time. So I've been advising people to try to get interviews as soon as possible and, if at all possible, try to accept an offer before the end of the first month of the H-1B grace period.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been lucky, for the most part,” said 39-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/gutgutia/\">Abhishek Gutgutia\u003c/a> of San José. “Companies I’ve worked with have been wonderful. But there are definitely companies out there who take advantage of immigrant workers, H1-B workers, because they are afraid of losing status, or they just don’t know, and that’s not OK.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gutgutia arrived in the U.S. in 2012 to get his MBA. After graduation, he got an H-1B, then transitioned to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/employment-based-immigration-first-preference-eb-1\">EB1-A\u003c/a>, and got a green card after 10 years of waiting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The entrepreneur saw the mass layoffs as an opportunity to start a new company, \u003ca href=\"http://www.gozeno.io/\">Zeno\u003c/a>, which he characterizes as TurboTax for DIY-minded immigrants. “I’ve been on H-1B visa in the past,” said Gutgutia. “So I know the pain points all too well, which also inspired me to start this venture.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is there any chance of a fix, even a temporary one, in Washington D.C.? Alcorn says she’s talking about it with lawmakers and professional associations. “We're putting together a coalition to request executive action to temporarily extend the 60-day grace period for this group of people to 180 days, so that there's more time runway to stay in the country and look for other jobs, or self-petition green cards or, without illegally working, create a funded start-up that could then be their employer in the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Mass layoffs have pitched thousands of Bay Area H-1B visa holders into a desperate search to find another employer, or 'sponsor,' within 60 days before they're required to self-deport. 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And to uproot, sell everything and move back to your home country, within two months. For any human, any individual, it's hard.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Vidhi Agrawal, commercial operations director, Databricks","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>An unemployed H-1B visa holder has to find a new employer, or “sponsor,” within 60 days, or leave the country. Thousands of Bay Area tech and biotech workers have surged onto sites like LinkedIn, frantically looking for friendly faces, like 36-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/vidhiagrawal/\">Vidhi Agrawal\u003c/a> of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An H-1B visa holder herself, Agrawal works at the San Francisco software company Databricks. She and a friend have been running an informal database linking H-1B visa holders with prospective employers. In the last two weeks, the off-hours project has exploded from roughly 50 friends and acquaintances to over 500 people nationwide. She’s also in contact with about 100 hiring managers and recruiters from multiple companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a sudden thing that happens, and you have family, you have kids here, who’ve grown up here,” said Agrawal. “And to uproot, sell everything and move back to your home country, within two months. For any human, any individual, it’s hard.” To make matters worse, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11913665/200000-documented-dreamers-are-literally-waiting-a-lifetime-for-a-green-card\">many Indian H-1B holders are in a years-long queue to get a green card\u003c/a>, and leaving the country is tantamount to letting go of a huge investment of time and patience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Agrawal added that H-1B visa workers are always particularly vulnerable to layoffs. “We did sign up for this. When we come on work visas, we know what we’re signing up for. It’s not, like, things have changed on us,” she said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11913665,news_11931311,forum_2010101891200","label":"Related Posts "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the very least, \u003ca href=\"https://www.immihelp.com/h-1b-visa-layoff-and-60-days-grace-period/\">employers are required to notify federal immigration authorities and cover the cost of a plane flight back to the home country\u003c/a> when they lay off H-1B workers. Many companies, however, offer more support than that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Remarking on the mass layoffs at Meta, \u003ca href=\"https://about.fb.com/news/2022/11/mark-zuckerberg-layoff-message-to-employees/\">Mark Zuckerberg, for instance, wrote\u003c/a>, “I know this is especially difficult if you’re here on a visa. There’s a notice period before termination and some visa grace periods, which means everyone will have time to make plans and work through their immigration status. We have dedicated immigration specialists to help guide you based on what you and your family need.” Private attorneys, of course, are eager to help for a fee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-on-our-team\">Lyft\u003c/a> offers those on visas \u003ca href=\"https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-on-our-team\">the option to extend employment (with no expectation to work)\u003c/a> for an additional eight weeks in lieu of eight weeks of severance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That's a huge benefit, because it means they have a greater time runway,” said Sophie Alcorn, who runs \u003ca href=\"https://www.alcorn.law/\">Alcorn Immigration Law\u003c/a> in Mountain View and writes about immigration for \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/07/dear-sophie-how-can-i-stay-in-the-us-if-ive-been-laid-off/\">TechCrunch\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of the laid-off tech workers have plenty of savings. They could find another job eventually. But getting through the holiday season with Thanksgiving just now and the December holidays, plus the hiring freezes, it's going to be really hard to get an offer within the 60-day grace period that would allow the future employer to have enough prep time to do the three to four weeks of work that it takes to get an H-1B ready for filing with the government,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of people familiar with American immigration law say the 60-day grace period doesn't accurately reflect the panic many workers and their families are in right now because of the paperwork involved in transitioning to a new job. “There's a whole prefiling subcomponent with a totally different government agency besides USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) and the Department of Homeland Security,” Alcorn explained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You have to get a certified labor condition application approved with the Department of Labor. Plus, many of the companies that have the funds to hire right now are early stage tech companies who listen to their venture capitalists and preserve their cash. So now they can hire, which is great. But if they're new to the immigration process, getting set up as a petitioning employer takes additional time. So I've been advising people to try to get interviews as soon as possible and, if at all possible, try to accept an offer before the end of the first month of the H-1B grace period.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been lucky, for the most part,” said 39-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/gutgutia/\">Abhishek Gutgutia\u003c/a> of San José. “Companies I’ve worked with have been wonderful. But there are definitely companies out there who take advantage of immigrant workers, H1-B workers, because they are afraid of losing status, or they just don’t know, and that’s not OK.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gutgutia arrived in the U.S. in 2012 to get his MBA. After graduation, he got an H-1B, then transitioned to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/employment-based-immigration-first-preference-eb-1\">EB1-A\u003c/a>, and got a green card after 10 years of waiting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The entrepreneur saw the mass layoffs as an opportunity to start a new company, \u003ca href=\"http://www.gozeno.io/\">Zeno\u003c/a>, which he characterizes as TurboTax for DIY-minded immigrants. “I’ve been on H-1B visa in the past,” said Gutgutia. “So I know the pain points all too well, which also inspired me to start this venture.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is there any chance of a fix, even a temporary one, in Washington D.C.? Alcorn says she’s talking about it with lawmakers and professional associations. “We're putting together a coalition to request executive action to temporarily extend the 60-day grace period for this group of people to 180 days, so that there's more time runway to stay in the country and look for other jobs, or self-petition green cards or, without illegally working, create a funded start-up that could then be their employer in the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11933511/mass-bay-area-tech-layoffs-thrust-thousands-of-h-1b-visa-holders-into-frantic-job-hunt","authors":["251"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_32055","news_18123","news_20526","news_22750","news_32053","news_2011","news_353","news_6176","news_5745","news_32054"],"featImg":"news_11933519","label":"news"},"news_11869185":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11869185","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11869185","score":null,"sort":[1618324630000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-biggest-tech-unionization-effort-is-happening-at-the-new-york-times","title":"The Biggest Tech Unionization Effort Is Happening at the New York Times","publishDate":1618324630,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Thirty years ago, The New York Times did not have a website. Now, the company employs more than 700 tech workers, almost half its number of journalists. On Tuesday, those tech workers \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/13/business/stock-market-today#new-york-times-tech-workers-form-a-union\">announced they want to form a union\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almost half the Times is already unionized, including most of the journalists, along with more traditional newspaper technologists: the printers. Now, the tech workers want to join the journalists in their union, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nyguild.org/about-the-new-york-times\">The NewsGuild\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Times' tech workers include everyone from software engineers and data scientists to designers and project managers. These are the people who develop the apps and website, make tools for journalists, analyze data about traffic, and just like the journalists, work around the clock when there is big news like an election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the latest in a series of unionizing efforts by both white collar tech workers and blue collar workers impacted by the internet and digital technology. If the Times workers are successful in their union bid, it will become the largest of any contemporary white collar tech worker organizing effort to be recognized by the National Labor Relations Board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At KQED, we have been covering tech worker union efforts, but this story hits closer to home. My older brother is a programmer at the Times and part of the organizing effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I would obviously be partial when it comes to any negotiations with management, so I’m not reporting on any of that. Katie Robertson at The New York Times \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/13/business/stock-market-today#new-york-times-tech-workers-form-a-union\">is covering how the union came together and how this union bid is being received\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What is happening at the Times though is a major development in a bigger story I have been reporting on for years: the growing realization among tech workers that they don’t have as much say on the job as they’d wish, and how organizing could be a way to change that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The New York Times is a large media company, but like many remaining big newsrooms it’s also a growing tech company. Some of the tech workers do jobs specific to media, like making sure the story layouts transfer to print or helping journalists create visualizations for data. But there are teams of developers and engineers doing the same kind of work that happens at Google or Facebook: building apps, managing traffic and analyzing user data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spoke with tech workers at The New York Times about why they wanted to form a union and how they see themselves in relation to other workers in the economy.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Organizing to Make a Different Kind of Tech Company\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Senior software engineer Nozlee Samadzadeh helps build the internal site for Times journalists to compose and edit their stories. She got into tech after working as a writer and editor herself. Samadzadeh says it’s important for her to have a say in what she builds and how it is used.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Samadzadeh says, “Unionizing is the only way to introduce a democratic process in your workplace, to kind of get a seat at the table with people in charge.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='More Labor Coverage' tag='labor']Like many of the tech workers at the Times, Samadzadeh says she’s at the company because of the mission. She doesn’t want to work at big tech companies or startups. “I just could not ever, I think, justify that for myself,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Samadzadeh says she couldn’t be somewhere focusing primarily on profit instead of social good. She hopes a union will help workers at the Times advocate for the company to resist that influence from Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shay Culpepper is an engineer who makes dashboards to track metrics on the Times' homepage. She feels the same.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I really like going to work every day and not having to sit and contemplate the ethics of the tech I am building,” Culpepper says. “There are definitely ethical considerations, but I am not having cognitive dissonance about the things we are building.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the workers have firsthand experience of doing exactly that in Silicon Valley. Dylan Nugent is a senior software engineer at the Times. He works on tools to take the stories input by journalists and display them across all the Times' platforms. Before that, he worked at startups in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of these companies were not very diverse, and did not have an emphasis on diversity and inclusivity,\" Nugent says. \"A lot of them had the mentality of like: ‘We pay you well so any form of mistreatment or unpaid overtime, well, you shouldn’t have to worry about it because you’re already compensated well.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nugent says tech workers, and especially white men like him, should organize so they can use their relative privilege to help others in tech, as well as those in industries where workers have less power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If I have a more powerful voice, let me use it to amplify the concerns of the people who aren’t being listened to,” he says. “Let me use it to help build a democratic workplace.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Kathy Zhang, New York Times senior analytics manager\"]'There is this myth of meritocracy that says, ‘If you can work really hard or if you gain these specialized skills, that will set you apart from everyone else and you’ll be able to reap these benefits that other people don’t have.''[/pullquote]Kathy Zhang is senior analytics manager on a team that measures traffic and other data for Times news products. She is excited to be part of a union that can push for diversity and equity in the workplace. She says tech workers need to realize they have something to gain from organizing just like any other worker.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is this myth of meritocracy that says, ‘If you can work really hard or if you gain these specialized skills, that will set you apart from everyone else and you’ll be able to reap these benefits that other people don’t have,' \" Zhang says. \"But I don’t think of myself as apart from other people. I don’t think that, just because I can write SQL and I can put some dashboards together, that means I should think of myself as exceptional. I don’t make any decisions in front of the board at shareholders meetings, right? I work for a paycheck.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of the tech workers I spoke with were drawn to the Times by the mission and journalism of the organization.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Allowing citizens around the world to be well-informed and to understand things, I think that sense of purpose is so beautiful,” Culpepper says. On top of that, she says the paper was doing incredible things digitally. She says she was obsessed with the cooking and sudoku apps before she started working there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My brother, Benjamin Harnett, used to read the paper cover to cover when he was a boy, and our mother had to politely ask for him to stop filling in the crossword before she got to it. He has been an engineer at the Times for nine years, disregarding the stream of recruitment emails from companies like Google and Facebook.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The normal thing in the tech industry is to hop from company to company every two years,\" he says. \"You do a big project, get a promotion and then move on. You can’t build anything meaningful that way.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Samadzadeh sees the union as a way for workers to be more involved and committed to the company. She says, “Everyone at the Times cares so much. The ability to get a chance to be part of making the Times better is just so exciting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Tech Workers Are Workers\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The tech workers at the Times could get material advantages they currently don’t have by joining The NewsGuild: things like overtime, a pension and a say in their health care through union reps. None of that is typical in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guild organizer Marybeth Seitz-Brown says there is an interesting parallel between the tech workers of today and the journalists at The New York Times who first organized back in the 1930s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Intellectual workers, like journalists, were often identifying as professionals instead of workers that have things in common with the people they work with,\" Seitz-Brown says. \"In some ways, we are seeing the next wave of that same process that journalists went through.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While tech workers are relatively well paid compared to some other workers in the economy, they have similar concerns over pay and job protection as all workers. Over the decades they have faced the same kinds of attacks by management and owners that KQED detailed in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/howwegothere\">a three-hour documentary on the erosion of worker power\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There have been abrupt layoffs of tech workers during economic crises, with the pandemic being the latest example. Hundreds of workers at some companies were fired en masse, \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52091615\">sometimes over Zoom\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the 1990s, tech companies pioneered techniques to cut labor costs by outsourcing, contracting and temping workers, \u003ca href=\"https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/casebrief/p/casebrief-vizcaino-v-microsoft-corp\">all of which led to a class-action lawsuit against Microsoft\u003c/a>. Today \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11741371/two-tiered-caste-system-the-world-of-white-collar-contracting-in-silicon-valley\">there is a distinct two-tiered system in Silicon Valley\u003c/a> of full-time workers with benefits, and part timers and contractors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11741371 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/04/04182019_Google-qut-1020x697.jpg']There is a lot of misinformation about the wealth of tech workers. Big payouts can come from stock options, but that’s rare. Most tech workers are not at startups or high up at big tech companies. A majority rely on their wages, which have been relatively \u003ca href=\"https://www.computerworld.com/article/2493845/if-tech-is-so-important--why-are-it-wages-flat-.html\">stagnant for decades\u003c/a> along with everyone else’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>An Upswing in Organizing Despite Opposition\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Big tech companies have made organizing harder for tech workers than it is at media organizations like The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, where some tech workers are already unionized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For one, the big tech companies are much larger than a media organization like the Times. On top of that, companies like Google and Facebook have divided their workers through contracting and outsourcing all over the globe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech giants are also actively fighting unionization efforts at the top and bottom of their workforces. Just last week, Amazon \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/04/09/982139494/its-a-no-amazon-warehouse-workers-vote-against-unionizing-in-historic-election\">defeated efforts to unionize workers\u003c/a> at its warehouse in Bessemer, Alabama.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Amazon stopped the union for blue collar workers, union efforts are growing among white collar tech workers. Over 800 workers at Alphabet, Google's parent company, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11853806/its-not-easy-to-unionize-at-tech-companies-but-google-employees-are-doing-it\">are organizing\u003c/a>. It’s a small fraction of the company's approximately 250,000 workers – but just a few years ago you would have been hard pressed to find any tech worker in Silicon Valley \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11679302/in-a-direct-challenge-to-their-employers-tech-workers-begin-to-organize\">who was even talking about organizing\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Ruth Milkman, City University of New York\"]'If you look historically at labor movements, they don’t grow incrementally, they grow in spurts. Everyone is wondering at the moment, are we at the early stage at such a spurt?'[/pullquote]The organizing movement in tech has spread from less privileged workers upward. First, service workers at companies like Apple and Facebook joined unions like the Teamsters and SEIU. Uber and Lyft drivers and other gig workers formed groups like \u003ca href=\"https://www.drivers-united.org/\">Rideshare Drivers United\u003c/a>, and \u003ca href=\"https://gigworkersrising.org/\">Gig Workers Rising\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>White collar tech worker organizing has been spurred by conflicts with management, but also over issues like a lack of diversity and equity, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714714/time-is-up-employee-unrest-grows-at-silicon-valley-companies\">and more political concerns about what their companies are building and how the products are being used\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech workers have formed organizations like the \u003ca href=\"https://techworkerscoalition.org/\">Tech Workers Coalition\u003c/a> and employees at companies like Google and Microsoft have spoken out publicly against contracts with the military and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, a group of around 90 subcontracted workers at Google in Pittsburgh joined the United Steelworkers union. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11839817/how-a-scrappy-group-of-tech-workers-formed-one-of-the-only-unions-in-the-industry\">Smaller companies like Kickstarter\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2021/03/02/following-unionization-glitch-signs-collective-bargaining-agreement/\">Glitch\u003c/a> started their own unions. Alongside this organizing, a string of online media organizations \u003ca href=\"https://culturalworkersorganize.org/digital-media-organizing-timeline/\">like Quartz, Vox and Slate have unionized\u003c/a>. The bid for a union at The New York Times is by far the biggest effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you look historically at labor movements, they don’t grow incrementally, they grow in spurts,” says Ruth Milkman, a sociologist who teaches labor studies at the City University of New York. “Everyone is wondering at the moment, are we at the early stage at such a spurt?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Milkman says we’re seeing lots of more privileged, educated workers starting to organize, which bodes well for the labor movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Skilled workers, in manufacturing and construction have often been in the vanguard of organizing, not so much out of a sense of, you know, that they can help their coworkers, but partly because they have the leverage,” Milkman says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, the future of more and more companies rests on their tech workers. Milkman says the core grievance of workers at The New York Times is simple — and the same as the factory workers of the past — they want more say on the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A bid by hundreds of New York Times tech workers to unionize would become the largest contemporary white collar tech worker organizing effort to be recognized by the National Labor Relations Board.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1618362101,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":47,"wordCount":2231},"headData":{"title":"The Biggest Tech Unionization Effort Is Happening at the New York Times | KQED","description":"A bid by hundreds of New York Times tech workers to unionize would become the largest contemporary white collar tech worker organizing effort to be recognized by the National Labor Relations Board.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11869185 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11869185","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/04/13/the-biggest-tech-unionization-effort-is-happening-at-the-new-york-times/","disqusTitle":"The Biggest Tech Unionization Effort Is Happening at the New York Times","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/64854d1b-c4f3-4f6d-9e20-ad0901881113/audio.mp3","path":"/news/11869185/the-biggest-tech-unionization-effort-is-happening-at-the-new-york-times","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Thirty years ago, The New York Times did not have a website. Now, the company employs more than 700 tech workers, almost half its number of journalists. On Tuesday, those tech workers \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/13/business/stock-market-today#new-york-times-tech-workers-form-a-union\">announced they want to form a union\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almost half the Times is already unionized, including most of the journalists, along with more traditional newspaper technologists: the printers. Now, the tech workers want to join the journalists in their union, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nyguild.org/about-the-new-york-times\">The NewsGuild\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Times' tech workers include everyone from software engineers and data scientists to designers and project managers. These are the people who develop the apps and website, make tools for journalists, analyze data about traffic, and just like the journalists, work around the clock when there is big news like an election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the latest in a series of unionizing efforts by both white collar tech workers and blue collar workers impacted by the internet and digital technology. If the Times workers are successful in their union bid, it will become the largest of any contemporary white collar tech worker organizing effort to be recognized by the National Labor Relations Board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At KQED, we have been covering tech worker union efforts, but this story hits closer to home. My older brother is a programmer at the Times and part of the organizing effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I would obviously be partial when it comes to any negotiations with management, so I’m not reporting on any of that. Katie Robertson at The New York Times \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/13/business/stock-market-today#new-york-times-tech-workers-form-a-union\">is covering how the union came together and how this union bid is being received\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What is happening at the Times though is a major development in a bigger story I have been reporting on for years: the growing realization among tech workers that they don’t have as much say on the job as they’d wish, and how organizing could be a way to change that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The New York Times is a large media company, but like many remaining big newsrooms it’s also a growing tech company. Some of the tech workers do jobs specific to media, like making sure the story layouts transfer to print or helping journalists create visualizations for data. But there are teams of developers and engineers doing the same kind of work that happens at Google or Facebook: building apps, managing traffic and analyzing user data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spoke with tech workers at The New York Times about why they wanted to form a union and how they see themselves in relation to other workers in the economy.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Organizing to Make a Different Kind of Tech Company\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Senior software engineer Nozlee Samadzadeh helps build the internal site for Times journalists to compose and edit their stories. She got into tech after working as a writer and editor herself. Samadzadeh says it’s important for her to have a say in what she builds and how it is used.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Samadzadeh says, “Unionizing is the only way to introduce a democratic process in your workplace, to kind of get a seat at the table with people in charge.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"More Labor Coverage ","tag":"labor"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Like many of the tech workers at the Times, Samadzadeh says she’s at the company because of the mission. She doesn’t want to work at big tech companies or startups. “I just could not ever, I think, justify that for myself,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Samadzadeh says she couldn’t be somewhere focusing primarily on profit instead of social good. She hopes a union will help workers at the Times advocate for the company to resist that influence from Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shay Culpepper is an engineer who makes dashboards to track metrics on the Times' homepage. She feels the same.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I really like going to work every day and not having to sit and contemplate the ethics of the tech I am building,” Culpepper says. “There are definitely ethical considerations, but I am not having cognitive dissonance about the things we are building.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the workers have firsthand experience of doing exactly that in Silicon Valley. Dylan Nugent is a senior software engineer at the Times. He works on tools to take the stories input by journalists and display them across all the Times' platforms. Before that, he worked at startups in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of these companies were not very diverse, and did not have an emphasis on diversity and inclusivity,\" Nugent says. \"A lot of them had the mentality of like: ‘We pay you well so any form of mistreatment or unpaid overtime, well, you shouldn’t have to worry about it because you’re already compensated well.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nugent says tech workers, and especially white men like him, should organize so they can use their relative privilege to help others in tech, as well as those in industries where workers have less power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If I have a more powerful voice, let me use it to amplify the concerns of the people who aren’t being listened to,” he says. “Let me use it to help build a democratic workplace.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'There is this myth of meritocracy that says, ‘If you can work really hard or if you gain these specialized skills, that will set you apart from everyone else and you’ll be able to reap these benefits that other people don’t have.''","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Kathy Zhang, New York Times senior analytics manager","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Kathy Zhang is senior analytics manager on a team that measures traffic and other data for Times news products. She is excited to be part of a union that can push for diversity and equity in the workplace. She says tech workers need to realize they have something to gain from organizing just like any other worker.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is this myth of meritocracy that says, ‘If you can work really hard or if you gain these specialized skills, that will set you apart from everyone else and you’ll be able to reap these benefits that other people don’t have,' \" Zhang says. \"But I don’t think of myself as apart from other people. I don’t think that, just because I can write SQL and I can put some dashboards together, that means I should think of myself as exceptional. I don’t make any decisions in front of the board at shareholders meetings, right? I work for a paycheck.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of the tech workers I spoke with were drawn to the Times by the mission and journalism of the organization.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Allowing citizens around the world to be well-informed and to understand things, I think that sense of purpose is so beautiful,” Culpepper says. On top of that, she says the paper was doing incredible things digitally. She says she was obsessed with the cooking and sudoku apps before she started working there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My brother, Benjamin Harnett, used to read the paper cover to cover when he was a boy, and our mother had to politely ask for him to stop filling in the crossword before she got to it. He has been an engineer at the Times for nine years, disregarding the stream of recruitment emails from companies like Google and Facebook.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The normal thing in the tech industry is to hop from company to company every two years,\" he says. \"You do a big project, get a promotion and then move on. You can’t build anything meaningful that way.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Samadzadeh sees the union as a way for workers to be more involved and committed to the company. She says, “Everyone at the Times cares so much. The ability to get a chance to be part of making the Times better is just so exciting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Tech Workers Are Workers\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The tech workers at the Times could get material advantages they currently don’t have by joining The NewsGuild: things like overtime, a pension and a say in their health care through union reps. None of that is typical in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guild organizer Marybeth Seitz-Brown says there is an interesting parallel between the tech workers of today and the journalists at The New York Times who first organized back in the 1930s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Intellectual workers, like journalists, were often identifying as professionals instead of workers that have things in common with the people they work with,\" Seitz-Brown says. \"In some ways, we are seeing the next wave of that same process that journalists went through.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While tech workers are relatively well paid compared to some other workers in the economy, they have similar concerns over pay and job protection as all workers. Over the decades they have faced the same kinds of attacks by management and owners that KQED detailed in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/howwegothere\">a three-hour documentary on the erosion of worker power\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There have been abrupt layoffs of tech workers during economic crises, with the pandemic being the latest example. Hundreds of workers at some companies were fired en masse, \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52091615\">sometimes over Zoom\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the 1990s, tech companies pioneered techniques to cut labor costs by outsourcing, contracting and temping workers, \u003ca href=\"https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/casebrief/p/casebrief-vizcaino-v-microsoft-corp\">all of which led to a class-action lawsuit against Microsoft\u003c/a>. Today \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11741371/two-tiered-caste-system-the-world-of-white-collar-contracting-in-silicon-valley\">there is a distinct two-tiered system in Silicon Valley\u003c/a> of full-time workers with benefits, and part timers and contractors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11741371","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/04/04182019_Google-qut-1020x697.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>There is a lot of misinformation about the wealth of tech workers. Big payouts can come from stock options, but that’s rare. Most tech workers are not at startups or high up at big tech companies. A majority rely on their wages, which have been relatively \u003ca href=\"https://www.computerworld.com/article/2493845/if-tech-is-so-important--why-are-it-wages-flat-.html\">stagnant for decades\u003c/a> along with everyone else’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>An Upswing in Organizing Despite Opposition\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Big tech companies have made organizing harder for tech workers than it is at media organizations like The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, where some tech workers are already unionized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For one, the big tech companies are much larger than a media organization like the Times. On top of that, companies like Google and Facebook have divided their workers through contracting and outsourcing all over the globe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech giants are also actively fighting unionization efforts at the top and bottom of their workforces. Just last week, Amazon \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/04/09/982139494/its-a-no-amazon-warehouse-workers-vote-against-unionizing-in-historic-election\">defeated efforts to unionize workers\u003c/a> at its warehouse in Bessemer, Alabama.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Amazon stopped the union for blue collar workers, union efforts are growing among white collar tech workers. Over 800 workers at Alphabet, Google's parent company, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11853806/its-not-easy-to-unionize-at-tech-companies-but-google-employees-are-doing-it\">are organizing\u003c/a>. It’s a small fraction of the company's approximately 250,000 workers – but just a few years ago you would have been hard pressed to find any tech worker in Silicon Valley \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11679302/in-a-direct-challenge-to-their-employers-tech-workers-begin-to-organize\">who was even talking about organizing\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'If you look historically at labor movements, they don’t grow incrementally, they grow in spurts. Everyone is wondering at the moment, are we at the early stage at such a spurt?'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Ruth Milkman, City University of New York","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The organizing movement in tech has spread from less privileged workers upward. First, service workers at companies like Apple and Facebook joined unions like the Teamsters and SEIU. Uber and Lyft drivers and other gig workers formed groups like \u003ca href=\"https://www.drivers-united.org/\">Rideshare Drivers United\u003c/a>, and \u003ca href=\"https://gigworkersrising.org/\">Gig Workers Rising\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>White collar tech worker organizing has been spurred by conflicts with management, but also over issues like a lack of diversity and equity, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714714/time-is-up-employee-unrest-grows-at-silicon-valley-companies\">and more political concerns about what their companies are building and how the products are being used\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech workers have formed organizations like the \u003ca href=\"https://techworkerscoalition.org/\">Tech Workers Coalition\u003c/a> and employees at companies like Google and Microsoft have spoken out publicly against contracts with the military and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, a group of around 90 subcontracted workers at Google in Pittsburgh joined the United Steelworkers union. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11839817/how-a-scrappy-group-of-tech-workers-formed-one-of-the-only-unions-in-the-industry\">Smaller companies like Kickstarter\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2021/03/02/following-unionization-glitch-signs-collective-bargaining-agreement/\">Glitch\u003c/a> started their own unions. Alongside this organizing, a string of online media organizations \u003ca href=\"https://culturalworkersorganize.org/digital-media-organizing-timeline/\">like Quartz, Vox and Slate have unionized\u003c/a>. The bid for a union at The New York Times is by far the biggest effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you look historically at labor movements, they don’t grow incrementally, they grow in spurts,” says Ruth Milkman, a sociologist who teaches labor studies at the City University of New York. “Everyone is wondering at the moment, are we at the early stage at such a spurt?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Milkman says we’re seeing lots of more privileged, educated workers starting to organize, which bodes well for the labor movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Skilled workers, in manufacturing and construction have often been in the vanguard of organizing, not so much out of a sense of, you know, that they can help their coworkers, but partly because they have the leverage,” Milkman says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, the future of more and more companies rests on their tech workers. Milkman says the core grievance of workers at The New York Times is simple — and the same as the factory workers of the past — they want more say on the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11869185/the-biggest-tech-unionization-effort-is-happening-at-the-new-york-times","authors":["253"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_19904","news_20482","news_205","news_20627","news_353","news_28596","news_5745"],"featImg":"news_11869198","label":"news"},"news_11806387":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11806387","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11806387","score":null,"sort":[1584198001000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"coronavirus-highlights-worker-privilege-disparities-at-big-tech-firms","title":"Coronavirus Highlights Worker Privilege Disparities at Big Tech Firms","publishDate":1584198001,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Ben Gwin says he received an email a few days ago from Google, instructing most company employees to work from home for the next month because of coronavirus concerns. Gwin, who works as a data analyst, is employed by HCL Technologies and is contracted to do work for Google in their Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, satellite office. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And like many contractors at big tech firms, he does not get work-from-home privileges like Google employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A single dad who doesn’t want to risk getting sick, Gwin doesn’t have enough paid time off to stay home. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What am I supposed to do?” he asks. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Coverage\" postID=news_11741371,news_11806175]Gwin's dilemma, one shared by millions of contract workers across the United States, underscores the stark disparities between full-time employees and contractors, especially at big tech firms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most employees at companies like Google and Facebook are given the flexibility to work from home — particularly when health concerns arise — and enjoy some of most generous paid time off plans of any labor force in the country. But a significant percentage of the workers at those companies are contractors, not employees, and receive vastly different wages and benefits. At Google for example, “TVCs,” or Temps, Vendors and Contractors, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/technology/google-temp-workers.html\">account for about half of the company's entire workforce\u003c/a> according to leaked documents obtained by the New York Times.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gwin, who is technically employed by HCL Technologies, is among an army of white-collar contractors who sit alongside Google employees, often doing very similar jobs, but without the same benefits and pay packages. Most even wear different color badges to distinguish them from real Google employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google says that if a temporary worker or vendor has approved remote access, they should feel free to work from home, according to a company statement. It adds that if an office is closed, Google will work with the contracting company to ensure its workers are compensated for those lost hours.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gwin started working at Google, through HCL, a year and a half ago, and says he has repeatedly asked both companies for the flexibility to work from home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What is most infuriating, he says, is how managers from both companies have denied his requests: HCL telling him it would violate Google policies, and Google directing him back to HCL.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s really murky as far as who is making the decisions,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gwin notes that it would be a huge benefit if he could work from home on occasion, like when his 12-year-old daughter is sick or needs him to take her to softball practice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The coronavirus is compounding the frustration that many contractors like Gwin have long felt about the difference in treatment between them and full-time employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This will be one of the more stark examples of the tiers and the classist system that is implemented at our building,” Gwin says. “We aren’t really sure what’s going to happen with us. Hopefully we’re allowed to work from home, or if it’s like a quarantine situation, we don’t have to give up a month’s worth of pay. I think a lot of people would just go to work if that was the situation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, HCL Technology says it’s “proactively invoking all required measures to ensure business continuity” as the outbreak intensifies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A recent Google statement said that some contractors can work from home, but noted that “to serve our users and keep our products running, some work, performed by Google employees, temporary staff and vendors alike, can only be done by people physically present at offices. We're taking all necessary and recommended precautions, including increased sanitization and social distancing, a public health best practice.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chris Tilly, a labor economist at UCLA, says white collar contracting is on the rise in a number of industries beyond just tech. It's part of a trend he calls the \"fissuring\" of the workplace, where workers at the same company have increasingly different pay, benefits and privileges. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These fissures undermine the U.S. safety net,” Tilly says, \"which depends crucially on employment status, since contractors are considered self-employed and generally receive no benefits at all.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The coronavirus outbreak is both highlighting and exacerbating some of the issues inherent in the fissured workplace, says Tilly. \"An emergency situation like the current one worsens the impact of the inequities, and intensifies confusion and the complexities of mounting an effective response.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Google, Gwin hopes the current health crisis will prompt the company and other big tech firms to reconsider their contractor policies and allow workers like him to access the same work-from-home privileges that their own employees receive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I just want to be able to spend more time with my daughter,\" Gwin says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"While employees at many big tech firms have been told to work from home as a preventative health measure during the coronavirus outbreak, contractors at these companies are not always afforded the same flexibility.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1584495153,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":835},"headData":{"title":"Coronavirus Highlights Worker Privilege Disparities at Big Tech Firms | KQED","description":"While employees at many big tech firms have been told to work from home as a preventative health measure during the coronavirus outbreak, contractors at these companies are not always afforded the same flexibility.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11806387 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11806387","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/03/14/coronavirus-highlights-worker-privilege-disparities-at-big-tech-firms/","disqusTitle":"Coronavirus Highlights Worker Privilege Disparities at Big Tech Firms","source":"Coronavirus","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/coronavirus","path":"/news/11806387/coronavirus-highlights-worker-privilege-disparities-at-big-tech-firms","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Ben Gwin says he received an email a few days ago from Google, instructing most company employees to work from home for the next month because of coronavirus concerns. Gwin, who works as a data analyst, is employed by HCL Technologies and is contracted to do work for Google in their Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, satellite office. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And like many contractors at big tech firms, he does not get work-from-home privileges like Google employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A single dad who doesn’t want to risk getting sick, Gwin doesn’t have enough paid time off to stay home. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What am I supposed to do?” he asks. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","postid":"news_11741371,news_11806175"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Gwin's dilemma, one shared by millions of contract workers across the United States, underscores the stark disparities between full-time employees and contractors, especially at big tech firms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most employees at companies like Google and Facebook are given the flexibility to work from home — particularly when health concerns arise — and enjoy some of most generous paid time off plans of any labor force in the country. But a significant percentage of the workers at those companies are contractors, not employees, and receive vastly different wages and benefits. At Google for example, “TVCs,” or Temps, Vendors and Contractors, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/technology/google-temp-workers.html\">account for about half of the company's entire workforce\u003c/a> according to leaked documents obtained by the New York Times.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gwin, who is technically employed by HCL Technologies, is among an army of white-collar contractors who sit alongside Google employees, often doing very similar jobs, but without the same benefits and pay packages. Most even wear different color badges to distinguish them from real Google employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google says that if a temporary worker or vendor has approved remote access, they should feel free to work from home, according to a company statement. It adds that if an office is closed, Google will work with the contracting company to ensure its workers are compensated for those lost hours.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gwin started working at Google, through HCL, a year and a half ago, and says he has repeatedly asked both companies for the flexibility to work from home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What is most infuriating, he says, is how managers from both companies have denied his requests: HCL telling him it would violate Google policies, and Google directing him back to HCL.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s really murky as far as who is making the decisions,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gwin notes that it would be a huge benefit if he could work from home on occasion, like when his 12-year-old daughter is sick or needs him to take her to softball practice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The coronavirus is compounding the frustration that many contractors like Gwin have long felt about the difference in treatment between them and full-time employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This will be one of the more stark examples of the tiers and the classist system that is implemented at our building,” Gwin says. “We aren’t really sure what’s going to happen with us. Hopefully we’re allowed to work from home, or if it’s like a quarantine situation, we don’t have to give up a month’s worth of pay. I think a lot of people would just go to work if that was the situation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, HCL Technology says it’s “proactively invoking all required measures to ensure business continuity” as the outbreak intensifies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A recent Google statement said that some contractors can work from home, but noted that “to serve our users and keep our products running, some work, performed by Google employees, temporary staff and vendors alike, can only be done by people physically present at offices. We're taking all necessary and recommended precautions, including increased sanitization and social distancing, a public health best practice.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chris Tilly, a labor economist at UCLA, says white collar contracting is on the rise in a number of industries beyond just tech. It's part of a trend he calls the \"fissuring\" of the workplace, where workers at the same company have increasingly different pay, benefits and privileges. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These fissures undermine the U.S. safety net,” Tilly says, \"which depends crucially on employment status, since contractors are considered self-employed and generally receive no benefits at all.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The coronavirus outbreak is both highlighting and exacerbating some of the issues inherent in the fissured workplace, says Tilly. \"An emergency situation like the current one worsens the impact of the inequities, and intensifies confusion and the complexities of mounting an effective response.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Google, Gwin hopes the current health crisis will prompt the company and other big tech firms to reconsider their contractor policies and allow workers like him to access the same work-from-home privileges that their own employees receive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I just want to be able to spend more time with my daughter,\" Gwin says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11806387/coronavirus-highlights-worker-privilege-disparities-at-big-tech-firms","authors":["253"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_27350","news_27504","news_93","news_24862","news_353","news_5745"],"featImg":"news_11738400","label":"source_news_11806387"},"news_11681049":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11681049","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11681049","score":null,"sort":[1532048326000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-latest-tech-disruption-labor-organizing","title":"The Latest Tech 'Disruption': Labor Organizing","publishDate":1532048326,"format":"image","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>It’s 7:15 in the evening and standing room only. Workers from some of the biggest tech companies in Silicon Valley sit along the walls of a small, stuffy room at the Women’s Building in San Francisco. About a dozen others jockey for space in the hallway. Many are here straight from work, carrying backpacks and purses laden with laptops. The nervous energy is palpable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the room settles, a few volunteers from the Tech Workers Coalition tack a sign along the back wall. It says: “Tech Workers Demand Justice.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a safe space,” says one of the organizers to the crowd. “Raise your hand if you’d like to speak, and I’ll add you to the list.” Hands shoot up, and for two hours, more than 100 tech workers listen and talk openly and critically about the companies they work for. The conversations range from frustrations over the lack of diversity to worries about their company’s relationships with the government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One anecdote that came up again and again throughout the evening: how IBM had built technology to help Nazis murder Jews. At one point, a person standing at the back of the wall said it was up to workers to make sure something like that didn't happen again. He said that if we don't build it, no one will. The crowd murmured in agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I often feel like my co-workers just want to focus on building tools and building apps and are not worried about these larger issues,” said one of the volunteers from the Tech Workers Coalition. She was hesitant to talk, and preferred to stay anonymous. She works for a well-known tech company, and believes giving her name could put her job in jeopardy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This latest meeting at the Women’s Building in early July was the first, according to the Tech Workers Coalition, of what will be an ongoing series of forums to educate and assist tech workers who would like to collectively organize. The organization describes itself as an all-volunteer group for employees in the tech industry who are unhappy with what their companies are building and the direction of the industry. And in this politically charged age of the Trump presidency, members of the coalition say the organization is growing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barriers to Organizing\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the last few years, a number of tech worker organizing groups have formed in the Bay Area. Some, like the TechEquity Collaborative, are trying to get those who work in the industry more plugged into the communities they live in and impact. Others, like Silicon Valley Rising, focus on the labor organizing of service workers on tech campuses — the bus drivers, security guards and cafeteria staff who are scrambling to get by as the industry’s wealth transforms the region.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But overall, labor unions have had little success enticing the relatively well-paid workers in the industry — the programmers, engineers and product managers. The reasons why are often complex. Some tech workers who spoke at the meeting said big tech companies have created cultures that discourage workers from organizing, like forcing employees to sign nondisclosure agreements, which discourage communication between workers from other companies and also the media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11681071\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 420px\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-11681071\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-800x1123.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"420\" height=\"589\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-800x1123.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-160x225.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-1020x1431.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-855x1200.jpg 855w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-1920x2694.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-1180x1656.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-960x1347.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-240x337.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-375x526.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-520x730.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 420px) 100vw, 420px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A flyer from a recent TWC forum urges tech workers to organize. \u003ccite>(Sam Harnett / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Isolation and Involvement\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By 9 p.m., organizers of the forum at the Women’s Building in San Francisco had to wrap up the discussion, leaving a list of people still waiting to speak. Workers spilled into the lobby, continuing the conversation, exchanging contact information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the forum’s key organizers were women and people of color. Others, like Ares Geovanos, a mechanical engineer, pointed out that many of the people who have chosen to organize have had non-conventional paths into the tech industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You get a lot of people that have done boot camps and stuff or maybe they were baristas, you know,” Geovanos says. “They haven’t been indoctrinated with a lot of the mythology of the tech industry.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Geovanos says his parents were working-class immigrants, and he worked in residential construction for four years. Doing that job, Geovanos says, let him experience class struggle in a way he wouldn’t have at a privileged university or high-paying tech job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re not taught the history of the labor movement in-depth,” Geovanos says. “It’s kind of hidden from us, obscured from us even at work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He now organizes sessions through the Tech Workers Coalition to teach tech workers about the labor movement, and he’s bringing in experts like longtime organizer Gifford Hartman to help lead these conversations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hartman has been a part of the labor movement since the 1980s. Back then he built a contact list for people upset about things like South African apartheid and the CIA’s involvement in Central America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today Hartman gives walking tours to tech workers interested in learning more about labor and organizing efforts in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If people are never given the history of fighting back, they never try to fight back. They don’t know what they’re building on,” said Hartman during a recent tour of the Embarcadero, which revisited the key sites of the 1934 General Strike in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Hartman spoke, a tech worker on the tour brought out a notebook and pen, and began taking meticulous notes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Old Tactics, New Protests\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recently, in addition to meetings, volunteers in the Tech Workers Coalition have taken traditional organizing tactics to push for change within tech companies. They helped organize a rally to show solidarity with Salesforce workers, upset with the company’s relationship with U.S. Customs and Border Protection. More than 650 people signed an open letter to the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s the latest in a slew of outward calls to action. Microsoft employees recently spoke out against the company’s ongoing business with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Amazon workers are criticizing the company for providing facial recognition software to police departments. And Google employees urged it to drop its contract to develop military drone technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While these actions have gotten some press and response from the companies themselves, the number of employees participating is relatively small compared to the size of the companies. The Tech Workers Coalition says it is hoping to stoke the fire of this nascent activism and to create a sense of solidarity in the industry so other workers will feel comfortable speaking out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As we start to grow and as we get stronger, it will be easier for people to stand up and be to more public about this,” remarked one tech worker, a programmer, who didn’t want to give his name. “For the time being we have to carve out a way to take action that still protects us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He hopes these first steps in organizing are a signal to tech workers: You aren’t alone. He says if enough of them come together, maybe they won’t have to hide who they are or what they think.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Tech workers want more control over what their companies are building and how they are run.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1532048916,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":28,"wordCount":1232},"headData":{"title":"The Latest Tech 'Disruption': Labor Organizing | KQED","description":"Tech workers want more control over what their companies are building and how they are run.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11681049 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11681049","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/07/19/the-latest-tech-disruption-labor-organizing/","disqusTitle":"The Latest Tech 'Disruption': Labor Organizing","path":"/news/11681049/the-latest-tech-disruption-labor-organizing","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2018/07/HarnettTechWorkersOrganizing.mp3","audioDuration":284000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>It’s 7:15 in the evening and standing room only. Workers from some of the biggest tech companies in Silicon Valley sit along the walls of a small, stuffy room at the Women’s Building in San Francisco. About a dozen others jockey for space in the hallway. Many are here straight from work, carrying backpacks and purses laden with laptops. The nervous energy is palpable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the room settles, a few volunteers from the Tech Workers Coalition tack a sign along the back wall. It says: “Tech Workers Demand Justice.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a safe space,” says one of the organizers to the crowd. “Raise your hand if you’d like to speak, and I’ll add you to the list.” Hands shoot up, and for two hours, more than 100 tech workers listen and talk openly and critically about the companies they work for. The conversations range from frustrations over the lack of diversity to worries about their company’s relationships with the government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One anecdote that came up again and again throughout the evening: how IBM had built technology to help Nazis murder Jews. At one point, a person standing at the back of the wall said it was up to workers to make sure something like that didn't happen again. He said that if we don't build it, no one will. The crowd murmured in agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I often feel like my co-workers just want to focus on building tools and building apps and are not worried about these larger issues,” said one of the volunteers from the Tech Workers Coalition. She was hesitant to talk, and preferred to stay anonymous. She works for a well-known tech company, and believes giving her name could put her job in jeopardy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This latest meeting at the Women’s Building in early July was the first, according to the Tech Workers Coalition, of what will be an ongoing series of forums to educate and assist tech workers who would like to collectively organize. The organization describes itself as an all-volunteer group for employees in the tech industry who are unhappy with what their companies are building and the direction of the industry. And in this politically charged age of the Trump presidency, members of the coalition say the organization is growing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barriers to Organizing\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the last few years, a number of tech worker organizing groups have formed in the Bay Area. Some, like the TechEquity Collaborative, are trying to get those who work in the industry more plugged into the communities they live in and impact. Others, like Silicon Valley Rising, focus on the labor organizing of service workers on tech campuses — the bus drivers, security guards and cafeteria staff who are scrambling to get by as the industry’s wealth transforms the region.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But overall, labor unions have had little success enticing the relatively well-paid workers in the industry — the programmers, engineers and product managers. The reasons why are often complex. Some tech workers who spoke at the meeting said big tech companies have created cultures that discourage workers from organizing, like forcing employees to sign nondisclosure agreements, which discourage communication between workers from other companies and also the media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11681071\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 420px\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-11681071\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-800x1123.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"420\" height=\"589\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-800x1123.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-160x225.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-1020x1431.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-855x1200.jpg 855w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-1920x2694.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-1180x1656.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-960x1347.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-240x337.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-375x526.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/Flyer-3B-e1531868134316-520x730.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 420px) 100vw, 420px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A flyer from a recent TWC forum urges tech workers to organize. \u003ccite>(Sam Harnett / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Isolation and Involvement\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By 9 p.m., organizers of the forum at the Women’s Building in San Francisco had to wrap up the discussion, leaving a list of people still waiting to speak. Workers spilled into the lobby, continuing the conversation, exchanging contact information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the forum’s key organizers were women and people of color. Others, like Ares Geovanos, a mechanical engineer, pointed out that many of the people who have chosen to organize have had non-conventional paths into the tech industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You get a lot of people that have done boot camps and stuff or maybe they were baristas, you know,” Geovanos says. “They haven’t been indoctrinated with a lot of the mythology of the tech industry.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Geovanos says his parents were working-class immigrants, and he worked in residential construction for four years. Doing that job, Geovanos says, let him experience class struggle in a way he wouldn’t have at a privileged university or high-paying tech job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re not taught the history of the labor movement in-depth,” Geovanos says. “It’s kind of hidden from us, obscured from us even at work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He now organizes sessions through the Tech Workers Coalition to teach tech workers about the labor movement, and he’s bringing in experts like longtime organizer Gifford Hartman to help lead these conversations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hartman has been a part of the labor movement since the 1980s. Back then he built a contact list for people upset about things like South African apartheid and the CIA’s involvement in Central America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today Hartman gives walking tours to tech workers interested in learning more about labor and organizing efforts in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If people are never given the history of fighting back, they never try to fight back. They don’t know what they’re building on,” said Hartman during a recent tour of the Embarcadero, which revisited the key sites of the 1934 General Strike in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Hartman spoke, a tech worker on the tour brought out a notebook and pen, and began taking meticulous notes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Old Tactics, New Protests\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recently, in addition to meetings, volunteers in the Tech Workers Coalition have taken traditional organizing tactics to push for change within tech companies. They helped organize a rally to show solidarity with Salesforce workers, upset with the company’s relationship with U.S. Customs and Border Protection. More than 650 people signed an open letter to the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s the latest in a slew of outward calls to action. Microsoft employees recently spoke out against the company’s ongoing business with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Amazon workers are criticizing the company for providing facial recognition software to police departments. And Google employees urged it to drop its contract to develop military drone technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While these actions have gotten some press and response from the companies themselves, the number of employees participating is relatively small compared to the size of the companies. The Tech Workers Coalition says it is hoping to stoke the fire of this nascent activism and to create a sense of solidarity in the industry so other workers will feel comfortable speaking out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As we start to grow and as we get stronger, it will be easier for people to stand up and be to more public about this,” remarked one tech worker, a programmer, who didn’t want to give his name. “For the time being we have to carve out a way to take action that still protects us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He hopes these first steps in organizing are a signal to tech workers: You aren’t alone. He says if enough of them come together, maybe they won’t have to hide who they are or what they think.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11681049/the-latest-tech-disruption-labor-organizing","authors":["253"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_1397"],"tags":["news_23732","news_1100","news_22800","news_23369","news_23372","news_5745"],"featImg":"news_11681294","label":"news_72"},"news_11679302":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11679302","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11679302","score":null,"sort":[1530923842000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"in-a-direct-challenge-to-their-employers-tech-workers-begin-to-organize","title":"In a Direct Challenge to Their Employers, Tech Workers Begin to Organize","publishDate":1530923842,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>#TechWontBuildIt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This was the theme of two unprecedented meetings earlier this week in San Francisco and Seattle. Tech workers, including engineers and programmers, gathered for a forum put on by the labor advocacy group \u003ca href=\"https://techworkerscoalition.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tech Workers Coalition\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The meeting in San Francisco was standing room only. More than 100 tech workers from both small companies and major corporations like Google and Facebook talked about how to organize, challenge their powerful employers and stop the companies they work for from creating products and services they find unethical. This meeting was the latest in what is becoming a rising wave of tech worker activism and protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the dissatisfaction from tech employees has taken the form of open letters to CEOs and board members. Employees at Google \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11668872/google-employees-quit-in-protest-over-military-artificial-intelligence-program\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recently spoke out\u003c/a> against work on military drones. The company later decided not to renew its contract with the U.S. Department of Defense. Salesforce and Microsoft workers are currently criticizing \u003ca href=\"http://blog.executivebiz.com/2018/03/cbp-to-adopt-salesforce-cloud-analytics-tech-platforms-dave-rey-comments/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">contracts with immigration agencies\u003c/a> like U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the workers at this latest meeting were fearful to talk to media and would do so only if reporters agreed to anonymity. Many of them said they were forced to sign agreements that prevent them from talking directly to the media. One worker said he had once spoken to the media, and afterward was told by his company that he would be fired if he did so again. He has since hired a lawyer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Workers at the meeting said that fear of harsh reprisals by major tech companies has kept many employees from speaking their mind or organizing across companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Tech Workers Coalition, which hosted the meeting, began as a support organization helping service workers like bus drivers and cafeteria workers on tech campuses \u003ca href=\"https://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2015/02/23/facebook-bus-drivers-unanimously-approve-union-contract/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">unionize and secure contracts with higher wages and benefits\u003c/a>. The thought was that tech companies would take the demands of service workers far more seriously if engineers and programmers on staff showed solidarity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The coalition has now evolved into an advocacy and resource group to empower tech workers who want more say in what their employers build and who they work with. It is a loose group of workers with no central organizer. Those in the group actively avoid using the word \"founders\" because of negative associations with what they call the capitalist-driven ethos that has become pervasive in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the meeting, tech workers discussed how venture capitalists and board members bent on increasing profits are leading big tech companies to unethical decisions. Several times workers referred to \u003ca href=\"https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/first/b/black-ibm.html?mcubz=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">IBM's infamous collaboration with Nazi Germany\u003c/a>. The company won a bid to provide technology that helped the Nazis classify, organize and murder Jews. Tech workers at the meeting spoke about the leverage that they have as engineers to stop powerful tools from being built for those who would abuse them. Hence the slogan: #TechWontBuildIt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One woman organizer involved with the Tech Workers Coalition said she had never before seen something like this in the industry. Another tech worker came in the middle of the meeting with his wife and an infant strapped to his chest in a Baby Bjorn. He'd heard about the coalition from a colleague at work. He said he couldn't give his name for fear of reprisal from his employer, but he said he was happy to see something like this was finally happening in the industry.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Trump-era politics have spurred tech employees to question the work they are doing on behalf of their employers, and how the work is being used by the military, police, border control and federal government.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1531352401,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":12,"wordCount":580},"headData":{"title":"In a Direct Challenge to Their Employers, Tech Workers Begin to Organize | KQED","description":"Trump-era politics have spurred tech employees to question the work they are doing on behalf of their employers, and how the work is being used by the military, police, border control and federal government.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11679302 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11679302","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/07/06/in-a-direct-challenge-to-their-employers-tech-workers-begin-to-organize/","disqusTitle":"In a Direct Challenge to Their Employers, Tech Workers Begin to Organize","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2018/07/TechOrganizingHarnettSepulvadoenhanced2way.mp3","path":"/news/11679302/in-a-direct-challenge-to-their-employers-tech-workers-begin-to-organize","audioDuration":191000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>#TechWontBuildIt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This was the theme of two unprecedented meetings earlier this week in San Francisco and Seattle. Tech workers, including engineers and programmers, gathered for a forum put on by the labor advocacy group \u003ca href=\"https://techworkerscoalition.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tech Workers Coalition\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The meeting in San Francisco was standing room only. More than 100 tech workers from both small companies and major corporations like Google and Facebook talked about how to organize, challenge their powerful employers and stop the companies they work for from creating products and services they find unethical. This meeting was the latest in what is becoming a rising wave of tech worker activism and protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the dissatisfaction from tech employees has taken the form of open letters to CEOs and board members. Employees at Google \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11668872/google-employees-quit-in-protest-over-military-artificial-intelligence-program\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recently spoke out\u003c/a> against work on military drones. The company later decided not to renew its contract with the U.S. Department of Defense. Salesforce and Microsoft workers are currently criticizing \u003ca href=\"http://blog.executivebiz.com/2018/03/cbp-to-adopt-salesforce-cloud-analytics-tech-platforms-dave-rey-comments/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">contracts with immigration agencies\u003c/a> like U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the workers at this latest meeting were fearful to talk to media and would do so only if reporters agreed to anonymity. Many of them said they were forced to sign agreements that prevent them from talking directly to the media. One worker said he had once spoken to the media, and afterward was told by his company that he would be fired if he did so again. He has since hired a lawyer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Workers at the meeting said that fear of harsh reprisals by major tech companies has kept many employees from speaking their mind or organizing across companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Tech Workers Coalition, which hosted the meeting, began as a support organization helping service workers like bus drivers and cafeteria workers on tech campuses \u003ca href=\"https://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2015/02/23/facebook-bus-drivers-unanimously-approve-union-contract/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">unionize and secure contracts with higher wages and benefits\u003c/a>. The thought was that tech companies would take the demands of service workers far more seriously if engineers and programmers on staff showed solidarity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The coalition has now evolved into an advocacy and resource group to empower tech workers who want more say in what their employers build and who they work with. It is a loose group of workers with no central organizer. Those in the group actively avoid using the word \"founders\" because of negative associations with what they call the capitalist-driven ethos that has become pervasive in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the meeting, tech workers discussed how venture capitalists and board members bent on increasing profits are leading big tech companies to unethical decisions. Several times workers referred to \u003ca href=\"https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/first/b/black-ibm.html?mcubz=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">IBM's infamous collaboration with Nazi Germany\u003c/a>. The company won a bid to provide technology that helped the Nazis classify, organize and murder Jews. Tech workers at the meeting spoke about the leverage that they have as engineers to stop powerful tools from being built for those who would abuse them. Hence the slogan: #TechWontBuildIt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One woman organizer involved with the Tech Workers Coalition said she had never before seen something like this in the industry. Another tech worker came in the middle of the meeting with his wife and an infant strapped to his chest in a Baby Bjorn. He'd heard about the coalition from a colleague at work. He said he couldn't give his name for fear of reprisal from his employer, but he said he was happy to see something like this was finally happening in the industry.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11679302/in-a-direct-challenge-to-their-employers-tech-workers-begin-to-organize","authors":["253"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_353","news_23369","news_5745","news_6387"],"featImg":"news_11679372","label":"news_72"},"news_10604683":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10604683","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10604683","score":null,"sort":[1437180546000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"google-exec-addresses-diversity-unions-and-benefits-for-service-workers","title":"Google Exec Addresses Diversity, Unions and Benefits for Service Workers","publishDate":1437180546,"format":"standard","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\"Yeah, the numbers are bad,\" said Laszlo Bock. \"The company is roughly 2 percent African-American, and that's way lower than you see both in the labor force we draw from and the population generally.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was how a key Google executive began his response to a question about whether the company recruits at historically black colleges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock is head of what's called \"people operations\" at Google, or what the rest of us refer to as human resources. He appeared on \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201507171000\">KQED's \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em>\u003c/a> to discuss his book, \"Work Rules! Insights from Inside Google That Will Transform How You Live and Lead.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Google is known for its employee perks and Bock's book contains a lot about what the company has learned about retaining and managing employees, \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em> listeners wanted to talk about something else that Silicon Valley is known for: a lack of diversity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google made \u003ca href=\"http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/google-discloses-workforce-diversity-data-good/\" target=\"_blank\">headlines\u003c/a> in May 2014 when it published its \u003ca href=\"http://www.google.com/diversity/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">demographic information\u003c/a>. In short, the company is 70 percent male and 60 percent white, \u003ca href=\"http://www.google.com/diversity/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">according to the company's website\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock said part of the reason that Google decided to release the information was \"to put pressure on ourselves. Now we are publicly accountable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We grew our African-American and Hispanic populations by about 40 percent. But the base we're growing from is so much smaller, that's just not enough.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the things that Google is doing to address its low number of African-Americans is not merely recruit at historically black colleges, Bock said, but also to have employees work with computer science departments at the schools \u003ca href=\"http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4312d33e1cb8454a9885f230d35f0eb1/google-embeds-engineers-professors\" target=\"_blank\">to refine the curriculum, teach courses and mentor students\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We went from zero interns ever hired from Howard [University] for computer science to 11 the next year,\" said Bock. \"We've since expanded to five other schools ... and hired over 30 people from those colleges.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Benefits for Contract Workers\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech companies have also been \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/07/14/growing-labor-movement-shakes-up-silicon-valley\">criticized\u003c/a> for what many say is a chasm between how the companies' actual employees are treated -- high salaries, catered lunches and private shuttles -- and how the workers who provide services to those employees are treated. They're the people who cook those lunches and drive those shuttles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock said that Google requires its vendors on Bay Area campuses to pay $15 an hour and has asked them to \"provide benefits similar to what we're doing on the Google side.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Specifically, Google asked that health insurance shouldn't require a waiting period of a year, that employees not pay more than 20 percent of the cost, and that family members and dependents receive benefit coverage right away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This will kick in with the open enrollment that starts in the fall,\" said Bock. \"It's going to be active starting next year, but we agreed on this a long time ago.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Unions at Google?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In February, shuttle drivers for Yahoo, Apple, Genentech, eBay and Zynga voted to join the Teamsters union. The drivers at Google did not and received a pay raise the next month. Some have interpreted this as incentive for the drivers not to unionize. \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201507171000\" target=\"_blank\">During the \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em> show\u003c/a>, a caller named Doug, who identified himself as being with the Teamsters union, asked:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Right now we have some shuttle bus drivers who drive for Google who want to organize with our union and are afraid of retaliation. So what is your position on these employees organizing unions without, you know, interference from their employers who do business with you?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock's response:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Well, what I'll say is that you know we have folks who are unionized, we have folks who are non-union, across the company. Folks have a legal right to organize without fear of retaliation. And that's a critical and important thing and we respect that. I mean, there would not and will not be retaliation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the hour, Bock also spoke about Google's efforts to hire more veterans and to include more colleges, including community colleges, in its hiring efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can listen to the complete interview here:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[soundcloud url=\"https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/215177159\" params=\"color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" iframe=\"true\" /].\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"'Folks have a legal right to organize without fear of retaliation,' says tech company's PR head.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1437180546,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":714},"headData":{"title":"Google Exec Addresses Diversity, Unions and Benefits for Service Workers | KQED","description":"'Folks have a legal right to organize without fear of retaliation,' says tech company's PR head.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"10604683 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10604683","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/07/17/google-exec-addresses-diversity-unions-and-benefits-for-service-workers/","disqusTitle":"Google Exec Addresses Diversity, Unions and Benefits for Service Workers","path":"/news/10604683/google-exec-addresses-diversity-unions-and-benefits-for-service-workers","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\"Yeah, the numbers are bad,\" said Laszlo Bock. \"The company is roughly 2 percent African-American, and that's way lower than you see both in the labor force we draw from and the population generally.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was how a key Google executive began his response to a question about whether the company recruits at historically black colleges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock is head of what's called \"people operations\" at Google, or what the rest of us refer to as human resources. He appeared on \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201507171000\">KQED's \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em>\u003c/a> to discuss his book, \"Work Rules! Insights from Inside Google That Will Transform How You Live and Lead.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Google is known for its employee perks and Bock's book contains a lot about what the company has learned about retaining and managing employees, \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em> listeners wanted to talk about something else that Silicon Valley is known for: a lack of diversity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google made \u003ca href=\"http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/google-discloses-workforce-diversity-data-good/\" target=\"_blank\">headlines\u003c/a> in May 2014 when it published its \u003ca href=\"http://www.google.com/diversity/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">demographic information\u003c/a>. In short, the company is 70 percent male and 60 percent white, \u003ca href=\"http://www.google.com/diversity/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">according to the company's website\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock said part of the reason that Google decided to release the information was \"to put pressure on ourselves. Now we are publicly accountable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We grew our African-American and Hispanic populations by about 40 percent. But the base we're growing from is so much smaller, that's just not enough.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the things that Google is doing to address its low number of African-Americans is not merely recruit at historically black colleges, Bock said, but also to have employees work with computer science departments at the schools \u003ca href=\"http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4312d33e1cb8454a9885f230d35f0eb1/google-embeds-engineers-professors\" target=\"_blank\">to refine the curriculum, teach courses and mentor students\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We went from zero interns ever hired from Howard [University] for computer science to 11 the next year,\" said Bock. \"We've since expanded to five other schools ... and hired over 30 people from those colleges.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Benefits for Contract Workers\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech companies have also been \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/07/14/growing-labor-movement-shakes-up-silicon-valley\">criticized\u003c/a> for what many say is a chasm between how the companies' actual employees are treated -- high salaries, catered lunches and private shuttles -- and how the workers who provide services to those employees are treated. They're the people who cook those lunches and drive those shuttles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock said that Google requires its vendors on Bay Area campuses to pay $15 an hour and has asked them to \"provide benefits similar to what we're doing on the Google side.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Specifically, Google asked that health insurance shouldn't require a waiting period of a year, that employees not pay more than 20 percent of the cost, and that family members and dependents receive benefit coverage right away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This will kick in with the open enrollment that starts in the fall,\" said Bock. \"It's going to be active starting next year, but we agreed on this a long time ago.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Unions at Google?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In February, shuttle drivers for Yahoo, Apple, Genentech, eBay and Zynga voted to join the Teamsters union. The drivers at Google did not and received a pay raise the next month. Some have interpreted this as incentive for the drivers not to unionize. \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201507171000\" target=\"_blank\">During the \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em> show\u003c/a>, a caller named Doug, who identified himself as being with the Teamsters union, asked:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Right now we have some shuttle bus drivers who drive for Google who want to organize with our union and are afraid of retaliation. So what is your position on these employees organizing unions without, you know, interference from their employers who do business with you?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock's response:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Well, what I'll say is that you know we have folks who are unionized, we have folks who are non-union, across the company. Folks have a legal right to organize without fear of retaliation. And that's a critical and important thing and we respect that. I mean, there would not and will not be retaliation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the hour, Bock also spoke about Google's efforts to hire more veterans and to include more colleges, including community colleges, in its hiring efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can listen to the complete interview here:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cdiv class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__shortcodes__shortcodeWrapper'>\n \u003ciframe width='100%' height='166'\n scrolling='no' frameborder='no'\n src='https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/215177159&visual=true&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false'\n title='https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/215177159'>\n \u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/div>\u003c/p>\u003cp>.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/10604683/google-exec-addresses-diversity-unions-and-benefits-for-service-workers","authors":["70"],"programs":["news_18537","news_6944"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_93","news_6176","news_5745","news_794"],"featImg":"news_10605051","label":"news_6944"},"news_10475415":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10475415","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10475415","score":null,"sort":[1428588050000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"wary-employers-stigma-have-some-tech-workers-keeping-low-profile","title":"Wary Employers, Stigma Have Some Tech Workers Keeping Low Profile","publishDate":1428588050,"format":"standard","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Erin McElroy runs the \u003ca href=\"http://www.antievictionmappingproject.net/\">anti-eviction mapping project\u003c/a> in San Francisco, and she has a problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McElroy would like to collaborate more with tech employees on issues like evictions, income inequality and the industry's lack of diversity. But she says tech workers are disconnected and hard to reach.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'It's really hard to disaggregate and even understand who works in tech when we can't hear from them.' \u003ccite>Erin McElroy, Anti-eviction Mapping Project\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>That's not so much because of the workers, she says, but their companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McElroy says tech firms have erected walls around their employees, both physically, with private shuttles and remote campuses, and logistically, with corporate policies that discourage communication with the press.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The situation reinforces the image of tech employees as disconnected and homogeneous, McElroy says. “It's really hard to disaggregate and even understand who works in tech when we can't hear from them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, who are tech workers, and are their companies really that reluctant to let them talk?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spoke with some software engineers, and they said any interviews had to go through their company's press office. This is pretty standard corporate policy. So, I started contacting big and well-known firms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I asked to interview employees, particularly programmers. I said I wanted to hear their individual stories -- where they come from and why they got into tech. I also wanted to talk about issues like gentrification, the shuttle buses and the label of “tech worker.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I reached out to 12 companies: Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Dropbox, Uber, eBay, Square, Yahoo, Oracle, Cisco and Adobe. All but one declined or did not respond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One company pressured an employee to recant an interview we had already done. The PR team told me that story could be “weaponized” against the company, which was “under a microscope.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10476875\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10476875 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Anti-gentrification signs in the city target tech workers.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-400x300.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-1440x1080.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-768x576.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-320x240.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Anti-gentrification signs in the city target tech workers. \u003ccite>(Sam Harnett/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>There has been a well-covered backlash against tech, particularly in regard to gentrification and the growing class divide. Tech workers are getting blamed as tensions intensify. Thus, software engineer Luca Pellicoro says, the mentality at large tech companies is to keep a tight lid on employees when it comes to the press.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pellicoro worked at several big firms before switching to a small startup. Part of the reason was he wanted more freedom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech workers do not live their lives as free and clear as one might assume, Pellicoro says. At larger companies, high wages and perks abound, but you also have long commutes, long hours and have to watch what you say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pellicoro says, “If you are younger and just starting out, you don't see those restrictions. Maybe you are more excited about the free food and the pingpong table.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pellicoro is originally from France and just became a U.S. citizen. Now he considers San Francisco his home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Programming is his passion, but he doesn't like to be called a tech worker. He says it feels derogatory, like an accusation. In San Francisco's Mission neighborhood, where he lives, there are signs and graffiti targeting tech workers. So even though his company does not prevent him, he does not always volunteer his occupation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10476881\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10476881 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-800x557.jpg\" alt=\"Graffiti in The Mission District targeting tech workers.\" width=\"800\" height=\"557\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-800x557.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-400x279.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-1440x1003.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-1180x822.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-768x535.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-320x223.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457.jpg 1867w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Graffiti in the Mission District targeting tech workers. \u003ccite>(Sam Harnett/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Depending on what social circle I am in, I will almost hide it and not be proud of it. I will just under my breath say what I do and feel ashamed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We do have statistics that paint a general picture of tech workers. In San Francisco, they \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/05/28/the-good-news-about-working-in-the-bay-area-for-some-wages-are-very-high\">earn on average\u003c/a> a little over a hundred grand a year—which, by the way, is not considered \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/03/09/you-need-to-earn-142000-dollars-to-buy-a-home-in-san-francisco\">enough to buy a median-priced\u003c/a> house in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/06/27/tech_diversity_data_facebook_follows_google_yahoo_in_releasing_the_stats.html\">Demographics released by companies\u003c/a> show that programmers are mostly white males. But in terms of age, San Francisco Business Times found \u003ca href=\"http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/techflash/2015/03/largest-sf-tech-employers-jobs-salesforce-twitter.html\">the average worker\u003c/a> at the city’s biggest tech companies is about 31, not 20-something, as the stereotype might suggest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even with all these stats, you could miss a tech worker right in front of you, like programmer Dave Brown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It's not tattooed on my forehead or in any of my clothing that I am a techie or a programmer,” Brown says, “so it doesn't really come up in my daily interactions with the community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown works at Cisco. It's the only one of the 12 companies I contacted that allowed interviews.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before we start talking, he forewarns me that his story is not that sensational. “I consider myself ordinary,” he says, “I might stop just short of boring.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I consider myself ordinary. I might stop just short of boring.' \u003ccite>Dave Brown, Software Engineer\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Brown says he is not one of the young startup entrepreneurs trying to make millions with the next big app. He consider himself a worker, albeit a relatively highly paid one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown is 43 and came to San Francisco almost 20 years ago. He and his wife have two kids and plan to stay here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is my home,” Brown says, “I intend to die here many decades from now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown is not ashamed of his career, even if it means being called a “tech worker.” He is happy to tell his story and give his opinions, as long as the bosses say it's OK.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Most tech companies are notoriously reluctant to give the media access to their employees.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1428681329,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":923},"headData":{"title":"Wary Employers, Stigma Have Some Tech Workers Keeping Low Profile | KQED","description":"Most tech companies are notoriously reluctant to give the media access to their employees.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"10475415 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10475415","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/04/09/wary-employers-stigma-have-some-tech-workers-keeping-low-profile/","disqusTitle":"Wary Employers, Stigma Have Some Tech Workers Keeping Low Profile","path":"/news/10475415/wary-employers-stigma-have-some-tech-workers-keeping-low-profile","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Erin McElroy runs the \u003ca href=\"http://www.antievictionmappingproject.net/\">anti-eviction mapping project\u003c/a> in San Francisco, and she has a problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McElroy would like to collaborate more with tech employees on issues like evictions, income inequality and the industry's lack of diversity. But she says tech workers are disconnected and hard to reach.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'It's really hard to disaggregate and even understand who works in tech when we can't hear from them.' \u003ccite>Erin McElroy, Anti-eviction Mapping Project\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>That's not so much because of the workers, she says, but their companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McElroy says tech firms have erected walls around their employees, both physically, with private shuttles and remote campuses, and logistically, with corporate policies that discourage communication with the press.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The situation reinforces the image of tech employees as disconnected and homogeneous, McElroy says. “It's really hard to disaggregate and even understand who works in tech when we can't hear from them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, who are tech workers, and are their companies really that reluctant to let them talk?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spoke with some software engineers, and they said any interviews had to go through their company's press office. This is pretty standard corporate policy. So, I started contacting big and well-known firms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I asked to interview employees, particularly programmers. I said I wanted to hear their individual stories -- where they come from and why they got into tech. I also wanted to talk about issues like gentrification, the shuttle buses and the label of “tech worker.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I reached out to 12 companies: Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Dropbox, Uber, eBay, Square, Yahoo, Oracle, Cisco and Adobe. All but one declined or did not respond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One company pressured an employee to recant an interview we had already done. The PR team told me that story could be “weaponized” against the company, which was “under a microscope.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10476875\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10476875 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Anti-gentrification signs in the city target tech workers.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-400x300.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-1440x1080.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-768x576.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut-320x240.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14737_IMG_2504.JPG-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Anti-gentrification signs in the city target tech workers. \u003ccite>(Sam Harnett/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>There has been a well-covered backlash against tech, particularly in regard to gentrification and the growing class divide. Tech workers are getting blamed as tensions intensify. Thus, software engineer Luca Pellicoro says, the mentality at large tech companies is to keep a tight lid on employees when it comes to the press.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pellicoro worked at several big firms before switching to a small startup. Part of the reason was he wanted more freedom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech workers do not live their lives as free and clear as one might assume, Pellicoro says. At larger companies, high wages and perks abound, but you also have long commutes, long hours and have to watch what you say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pellicoro says, “If you are younger and just starting out, you don't see those restrictions. Maybe you are more excited about the free food and the pingpong table.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pellicoro is originally from France and just became a U.S. citizen. Now he considers San Francisco his home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Programming is his passion, but he doesn't like to be called a tech worker. He says it feels derogatory, like an accusation. In San Francisco's Mission neighborhood, where he lives, there are signs and graffiti targeting tech workers. So even though his company does not prevent him, he does not always volunteer his occupation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10476881\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10476881 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-800x557.jpg\" alt=\"Graffiti in The Mission District targeting tech workers.\" width=\"800\" height=\"557\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-800x557.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-400x279.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-1440x1003.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-1180x822.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-768x535.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457-320x223.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14738_22614-001.JPG-qut-e1428108100457.jpg 1867w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Graffiti in the Mission District targeting tech workers. \u003ccite>(Sam Harnett/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Depending on what social circle I am in, I will almost hide it and not be proud of it. I will just under my breath say what I do and feel ashamed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We do have statistics that paint a general picture of tech workers. In San Francisco, they \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/05/28/the-good-news-about-working-in-the-bay-area-for-some-wages-are-very-high\">earn on average\u003c/a> a little over a hundred grand a year—which, by the way, is not considered \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/03/09/you-need-to-earn-142000-dollars-to-buy-a-home-in-san-francisco\">enough to buy a median-priced\u003c/a> house in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/06/27/tech_diversity_data_facebook_follows_google_yahoo_in_releasing_the_stats.html\">Demographics released by companies\u003c/a> show that programmers are mostly white males. But in terms of age, San Francisco Business Times found \u003ca href=\"http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/techflash/2015/03/largest-sf-tech-employers-jobs-salesforce-twitter.html\">the average worker\u003c/a> at the city’s biggest tech companies is about 31, not 20-something, as the stereotype might suggest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even with all these stats, you could miss a tech worker right in front of you, like programmer Dave Brown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It's not tattooed on my forehead or in any of my clothing that I am a techie or a programmer,” Brown says, “so it doesn't really come up in my daily interactions with the community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown works at Cisco. It's the only one of the 12 companies I contacted that allowed interviews.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before we start talking, he forewarns me that his story is not that sensational. “I consider myself ordinary,” he says, “I might stop just short of boring.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I consider myself ordinary. I might stop just short of boring.' \u003ccite>Dave Brown, Software Engineer\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Brown says he is not one of the young startup entrepreneurs trying to make millions with the next big app. He consider himself a worker, albeit a relatively highly paid one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown is 43 and came to San Francisco almost 20 years ago. He and his wife have two kids and plan to stay here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is my home,” Brown says, “I intend to die here many decades from now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown is not ashamed of his career, even if it means being called a “tech worker.” He is happy to tell his story and give his opinions, as long as the bosses say it's OK.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/10475415/wary-employers-stigma-have-some-tech-workers-keeping-low-profile","authors":["253"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_17286","news_5745"],"featImg":"news_137366","label":"news_6944"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. Together in Possible, Hoffman and Finger lead enlightening discussions about building a brighter collective future. 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