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The law also extends to pedestrian stops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One exception is if an officer “\u003ca href=\"https://a41.asmdc.org/press-releases/20220622-assemblymember-holdens-public-safety-bill-package-moves-through-senate\">reasonably believes that withholding the reason for the stop is necessary\u003c/a> to protect life or property from imminent threat.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://spsf.senate.ca.gov/sites/spsf.senate.ca.gov/files/ab_2773_analysis.pdf\">Holden said his “goal” with this bill was\u003c/a> “to promote equity and accountability in communities across California” and that the new law “brings transparency to service of protecting our public.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But how do experts believe this law will play out in the coming year? And what should you know about your rights if you are pulled over while driving in California?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keep reading for our guide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jump straight to:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#whattoknow\">\u003cstrong>Jump straight to: What to know about being pulled over in 2024\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>What is the background of the new law?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>AB 2773 is intended to limit what are called “\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/california-police-pretext-stop-18577175.php\">pretext stops\u003c/a>” — when a police officer pulls a motorist over for a minor infraction, like a broken taillight — to be able to then search the vehicle for illegal items like drugs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Black motorists across California are far more likely to be stopped by the police than their white counterparts, according to research by the \u003ca href=\"https://www.spur.org/publications/research/2022-10-06/high-cost-traffic-stops\">nonprofit organization San Francisco Bay Area Planning and Urban Research Association (SPUR)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to a 2022 report by the Racial and Identity Profiling Advisory, \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/ripa-board-report-2024.pdf\">Black individuals made up almost 13% of traffic stops — despite only making up 5% of California’s population (PDF)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11927758]Oakland Privacy — an \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandprivacy.org/\">organization focused on citizen privacy and promoting oversight around surveillance techniques\u003c/a> — wrote in support of this new bill, saying it \u003ca href=\"https://spsf.senate.ca.gov/sites/spsf.senate.ca.gov/files/ab_2773_analysis.pdf\">“addresses a problem that has taken lives and ended in tragedy far too often.” (PDF)\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Nonemergency traffic stops for busted taillights or expired registration should, we can all agree, never end in death and violence, and yet they do,” wrote the organization. “\u003ca href=\"https://exhibits.stanford.edu/saytheirnames/feature/philando-castile\">Philando Castile\u003c/a> was pulled over for a busted taillight in 2016. He did not survive.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/\">a thousand people have been shot and killed by the police\u003c/a> in the past twelve months, according to January data from \u003cem>The Washington Post\u003c/em>. \u003cem>The Post\u003c/em>’s analysis using data from 2015 shows that Black people are shot and killed by police at more than twice the rate of White people. Hispanic Americans are also shot and killed at a disproportionate rate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland Privacy’s statement also noted that many people naturally become frightened when pulled over, especially if the officer is not explaining the reason for the stop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Despite all the ‘know your rights’ pamphlets (which by the most optimistic of estimates will reach only a fraction of the population), it is difficult to control these feelings, which can be interpreted by law enforcement officers as having ‘something to hide,’” said the organization.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These reactions are “going to be exacerbated,” said Oakland Privacy, when it comes to groups “that have difficult relationships with law enforcement due to racial profiling or previous encounters.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A simple explanation of the reason for the stop at the beginning can do a lot to prevent fear, panic and the urge to flee,” they said. “The role of law enforcement is to enforce the law, not to play cat and mouse games to try to provoke people into doing the wrong thing and causing the encounter to spiral out of control.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shanāe Buffington, president of the \u003ca href=\"https://calblacklawyers.org/cabl-officers/\">California Association Of Black Lawyers (CABL)\u003c/a>, said AB 2773 was a good idea — explaining that before the passage, officers could \u003ca href=\"https://www.greghillassociates.com/may-police-lie-about-the-reason-for-traffic-stop.html#:~:text=Brief%20Synopsis%3A%20The%20police%20may,for%20making%20such%20a%20stop.\">also give false reasons for pulling someone over\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That will give the driver an understanding of why they’re being pulled over. I hear many stories from persons that are of diverse backgrounds being pulled over by police officers, and they have absolutely no reason,” she said. “They don’t know why they’re being pulled over.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Buffington said she sees this being a particular issue for individuals who have recently completed parole or probation, who find that history makes them more of a target for traffic stops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California also has some of the highest traffic penalties in the country, with some \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11927758/california-traffic-penalties-are-highest-in-us-and-disproportionately-affect-black-and-latinx-drivers-report-finds\">even exceeding $200 over a small speeding ticket.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What is the exception to the new law?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>One of the exceptions to AB 2773 is when an officer “reasonably believes that withholding information for the reason of the stop is necessary to protect property or life right from imminent threat.” Only in this instance is a police officer exempted from giving a reason for a traffic stop under this new law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11871364,news_11955465,news_11821950\" label=\"More on your rights:\"]“If you’re going to save another person from being harmed or killed possibly, I’m in agreement with that exception,” Buffington said, adding she was not sure if property should have been included.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the exception gives officers discretion to “pick and choose when they’re going to withhold certain information specifically about the reason for the stop,” Buffington said. That’s “going to open up the door to disproportionate impact on certain races,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If [the officer] has some biases, he may be more likely to withhold some information if he stops a Black or brown person […] I think that opens up the door for racial profiling,” Buffington said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"whattoknow\">\u003c/a>What to know about being pulled over in 2024?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Buffington said that as of Jan. 1, if you’re pulled over by the police while driving, you can ask the officer why you are being pulled over — and then wait for an explanation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What if an officer still does not give a reason?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the case that an officer does not give a reason for the stop, Buffington said you should ask specifically to speak to an attorney — and not say anything further to the police officer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Especially if the motorist feels like it may be going in a situation that can possibly end up in that person being detained,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What if the officer wants to search my car?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a motorist, you are protected against “unreasonable searches and seizures” under the Fourth Amendment, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.westcoastdefense.com/faqs/vehicle-search-with-a-warrant-in-california/\">an officer would need a warrant to search your car\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Don’t consent to the search and seizure. Let the police officer go and get a warrant. Because at that point, there has to be probable cause,” Buffington said. By then, another set of eyes will be on your case — who will determine if there is enough cause to search your vehicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In this situation, a motorist should again ask for an attorney — but without providing any other potentially incriminating details, Buffington said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think at that point, if the officer is going to arrest the motorist, then he will do that,” Buffington said. “But at least if there is a preliminary hearing, or there’s a trial later on down the line, the officer will not be able to use that incriminating statement in a proceeding.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>When ‘knowing your rights’ isn’t always enough\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Northern California ACLU has \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunc.org/our-work/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-police-interactions-black-and-brown-people\">developed a guide specifically for Black and brown people\u003c/a> in regards to their rights in police interactions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Buffington said it helps for citizens to know about their rights and not “letting the police officer just tell them anything.” But she also said she knows about the fear and anxiety that comes with these interactions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a police officer with the ability to alter your life in ways that are just unimaginable,” she said. “What would you do in that situation? You’re going to acquiesce, right? […] ‘I don’t want to resist or, I don’t want to be confrontational or combative because then things can really snowball out of control.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for future lawmaking, Buffington said she supported more exposure of policing practices in general.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CABL is sponsoring AB 797, which would require cities and counties to establish independent civilian commissions to look into the use-of-force cases by the police. The bill is sponsored by Akilah Weber, D-79. “Giving the community the opportunity to be a part of policies and procedures that essentially affects us all,” Buffington said. “I think that’s important.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another California bill, SB 50 by Sen. Steven Bradford (D-Gardena), also seeks to outlaw pretext stops altogether — rather than just limiting them, as AB 2773 does. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/pretext-stops-california-18360581.php\">This bill would have banned police officers from stopping drivers for more minor infractions\u003c/a> like an issue with a single brake light or headlight or the lack of a registration tag. SB 50, while approved by the state Senate in early 2023, later stalled in the Assembly — but will be taken up again this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Assembly Bill 2773 now requires an officer making a traffic stop to 'state the reason for the stop before asking any questions' — but there's an exception. Here's how the new law is meant to work.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1706747552,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":43,"wordCount":1609},"headData":{"title":"Police Can No Longer Ask 'Do You Know Why I Pulled You Over?' in California — Here's Why | KQED","description":"Assembly Bill 2773 now requires an officer making a traffic stop to 'state the reason for the stop before asking any questions' — but there's an exception. Here's how the new law is meant to work.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11974283/police-can-no-longer-ask-do-you-know-why-i-pulled-you-over-in-california-heres-why","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Police officers in California can no longer ask, “Do you know why I pulled you over?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s because of a new state law that came into effect on Jan. 1.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB2773\">Assembly Bill 2773\u003c/a>, passed in 2022 by the state government and sponsored by Assemblymember Chris Holden, D-41, \u003ca href=\"https://a41.asmdc.org/press-releases/20220622-assemblymember-holdens-public-safety-bill-package-moves-through-senate\">now requires an officer making a traffic stop to “state the reason for the stop before asking any questions”\u003c/a> — and the reason also needs to be officially documented in any reports that officer makes. The law also extends to pedestrian stops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One exception is if an officer “\u003ca href=\"https://a41.asmdc.org/press-releases/20220622-assemblymember-holdens-public-safety-bill-package-moves-through-senate\">reasonably believes that withholding the reason for the stop is necessary\u003c/a> to protect life or property from imminent threat.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://spsf.senate.ca.gov/sites/spsf.senate.ca.gov/files/ab_2773_analysis.pdf\">Holden said his “goal” with this bill was\u003c/a> “to promote equity and accountability in communities across California” and that the new law “brings transparency to service of protecting our public.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But how do experts believe this law will play out in the coming year? And what should you know about your rights if you are pulled over while driving in California?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keep reading for our guide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jump straight to:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#whattoknow\">\u003cstrong>Jump straight to: What to know about being pulled over in 2024\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>What is the background of the new law?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>AB 2773 is intended to limit what are called “\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/california-police-pretext-stop-18577175.php\">pretext stops\u003c/a>” — when a police officer pulls a motorist over for a minor infraction, like a broken taillight — to be able to then search the vehicle for illegal items like drugs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Black motorists across California are far more likely to be stopped by the police than their white counterparts, according to research by the \u003ca href=\"https://www.spur.org/publications/research/2022-10-06/high-cost-traffic-stops\">nonprofit organization San Francisco Bay Area Planning and Urban Research Association (SPUR)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to a 2022 report by the Racial and Identity Profiling Advisory, \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/ripa-board-report-2024.pdf\">Black individuals made up almost 13% of traffic stops — despite only making up 5% of California’s population (PDF)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11927758","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Oakland Privacy — an \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandprivacy.org/\">organization focused on citizen privacy and promoting oversight around surveillance techniques\u003c/a> — wrote in support of this new bill, saying it \u003ca href=\"https://spsf.senate.ca.gov/sites/spsf.senate.ca.gov/files/ab_2773_analysis.pdf\">“addresses a problem that has taken lives and ended in tragedy far too often.” (PDF)\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Nonemergency traffic stops for busted taillights or expired registration should, we can all agree, never end in death and violence, and yet they do,” wrote the organization. “\u003ca href=\"https://exhibits.stanford.edu/saytheirnames/feature/philando-castile\">Philando Castile\u003c/a> was pulled over for a busted taillight in 2016. He did not survive.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/\">a thousand people have been shot and killed by the police\u003c/a> in the past twelve months, according to January data from \u003cem>The Washington Post\u003c/em>. \u003cem>The Post\u003c/em>’s analysis using data from 2015 shows that Black people are shot and killed by police at more than twice the rate of White people. Hispanic Americans are also shot and killed at a disproportionate rate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland Privacy’s statement also noted that many people naturally become frightened when pulled over, especially if the officer is not explaining the reason for the stop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Despite all the ‘know your rights’ pamphlets (which by the most optimistic of estimates will reach only a fraction of the population), it is difficult to control these feelings, which can be interpreted by law enforcement officers as having ‘something to hide,’” said the organization.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These reactions are “going to be exacerbated,” said Oakland Privacy, when it comes to groups “that have difficult relationships with law enforcement due to racial profiling or previous encounters.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A simple explanation of the reason for the stop at the beginning can do a lot to prevent fear, panic and the urge to flee,” they said. “The role of law enforcement is to enforce the law, not to play cat and mouse games to try to provoke people into doing the wrong thing and causing the encounter to spiral out of control.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shanāe Buffington, president of the \u003ca href=\"https://calblacklawyers.org/cabl-officers/\">California Association Of Black Lawyers (CABL)\u003c/a>, said AB 2773 was a good idea — explaining that before the passage, officers could \u003ca href=\"https://www.greghillassociates.com/may-police-lie-about-the-reason-for-traffic-stop.html#:~:text=Brief%20Synopsis%3A%20The%20police%20may,for%20making%20such%20a%20stop.\">also give false reasons for pulling someone over\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That will give the driver an understanding of why they’re being pulled over. I hear many stories from persons that are of diverse backgrounds being pulled over by police officers, and they have absolutely no reason,” she said. “They don’t know why they’re being pulled over.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Buffington said she sees this being a particular issue for individuals who have recently completed parole or probation, who find that history makes them more of a target for traffic stops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California also has some of the highest traffic penalties in the country, with some \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11927758/california-traffic-penalties-are-highest-in-us-and-disproportionately-affect-black-and-latinx-drivers-report-finds\">even exceeding $200 over a small speeding ticket.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What is the exception to the new law?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>One of the exceptions to AB 2773 is when an officer “reasonably believes that withholding information for the reason of the stop is necessary to protect property or life right from imminent threat.” Only in this instance is a police officer exempted from giving a reason for a traffic stop under this new law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11871364,news_11955465,news_11821950","label":"More on your rights: "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“If you’re going to save another person from being harmed or killed possibly, I’m in agreement with that exception,” Buffington said, adding she was not sure if property should have been included.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the exception gives officers discretion to “pick and choose when they’re going to withhold certain information specifically about the reason for the stop,” Buffington said. That’s “going to open up the door to disproportionate impact on certain races,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If [the officer] has some biases, he may be more likely to withhold some information if he stops a Black or brown person […] I think that opens up the door for racial profiling,” Buffington said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"whattoknow\">\u003c/a>What to know about being pulled over in 2024?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Buffington said that as of Jan. 1, if you’re pulled over by the police while driving, you can ask the officer why you are being pulled over — and then wait for an explanation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What if an officer still does not give a reason?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the case that an officer does not give a reason for the stop, Buffington said you should ask specifically to speak to an attorney — and not say anything further to the police officer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Especially if the motorist feels like it may be going in a situation that can possibly end up in that person being detained,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What if the officer wants to search my car?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a motorist, you are protected against “unreasonable searches and seizures” under the Fourth Amendment, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.westcoastdefense.com/faqs/vehicle-search-with-a-warrant-in-california/\">an officer would need a warrant to search your car\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Don’t consent to the search and seizure. Let the police officer go and get a warrant. Because at that point, there has to be probable cause,” Buffington said. By then, another set of eyes will be on your case — who will determine if there is enough cause to search your vehicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In this situation, a motorist should again ask for an attorney — but without providing any other potentially incriminating details, Buffington said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think at that point, if the officer is going to arrest the motorist, then he will do that,” Buffington said. “But at least if there is a preliminary hearing, or there’s a trial later on down the line, the officer will not be able to use that incriminating statement in a proceeding.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>When ‘knowing your rights’ isn’t always enough\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Northern California ACLU has \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunc.org/our-work/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-police-interactions-black-and-brown-people\">developed a guide specifically for Black and brown people\u003c/a> in regards to their rights in police interactions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Buffington said it helps for citizens to know about their rights and not “letting the police officer just tell them anything.” But she also said she knows about the fear and anxiety that comes with these interactions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a police officer with the ability to alter your life in ways that are just unimaginable,” she said. “What would you do in that situation? You’re going to acquiesce, right? […] ‘I don’t want to resist or, I don’t want to be confrontational or combative because then things can really snowball out of control.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for future lawmaking, Buffington said she supported more exposure of policing practices in general.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CABL is sponsoring AB 797, which would require cities and counties to establish independent civilian commissions to look into the use-of-force cases by the police. The bill is sponsored by Akilah Weber, D-79. “Giving the community the opportunity to be a part of policies and procedures that essentially affects us all,” Buffington said. “I think that’s important.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another California bill, SB 50 by Sen. Steven Bradford (D-Gardena), also seeks to outlaw pretext stops altogether — rather than just limiting them, as AB 2773 does. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/pretext-stops-california-18360581.php\">This bill would have banned police officers from stopping drivers for more minor infractions\u003c/a> like an issue with a single brake light or headlight or the lack of a registration tag. SB 50, while approved by the state Senate in early 2023, later stalled in the Assembly — but will be taken up again this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11974283/police-can-no-longer-ask-do-you-know-why-i-pulled-you-over-in-california-heres-why","authors":["11867"],"categories":["news_6188","news_28250","news_8"],"tags":["news_32707","news_2704","news_20625"],"featImg":"news_11974291","label":"news"},"news_11961640":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11961640","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11961640","score":null,"sort":[1695121308000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"will-a-plan-to-cut-sfpd-command-staff-stop-revolving-door-of-top-brass-aaron-peskin","title":"Will a Plan to Cut SFPD Command Staff Stop 'Revolving Door' of Top Brass?","publishDate":1695121308,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Will a Plan to Cut SFPD Command Staff Stop ‘Revolving Door’ of Top Brass? | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Ed Siu is a pro at giving Central Station police captains tours of Chinatown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at this point, the chairman of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.cmuasf.org/%E9%97%9C%E6%96%BC-about-us\">Chinatown Merchants United Association of San Francisco\u003c/a> thinks he’s given too many.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Francisco, district police captains serve as public figures and tacticians for clusters of neighborhoods. Central Station, a six-story gray slab at the edge of North Beach, oversees Chinatown as well as the Financial District, Fisherman’s Wharf, Telegraph Hill, Nob Hill and Russian Hill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hoping to ensure captains learn the safety needs of Chinatown merchants, Siu will walk them down bustling Stockton Street, jockeying between thick crowds of shoppers to arrive at the door of New Golden Daisy, one of those restaurants with ducks hanging in the window.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Siu and the captain may amble over to the Sweetheart Florist, \u003ca href=\"https://sweetheartfloristsf.com/collections/blanketofferings\">which also offers traditional Chinese silk blankets\u003c/a>, before going down to Kearny Street, the heart of the neighborhood’s tourist offerings, to Hon’s Wun-Tun House for soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Ed Siu, chairman, Chinatown Merchants United Association of San Francisco\"]‘I mention it to the captains, the turnover is too fast. They should help us by knowing about Chinatown and the district.’[/pullquote]Siu has led tours for so many new police leaders that he can’t remember all of their names. The expansion of the San Francisco Police Department’s command staff has led to high turnover among captains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mention it to the captains, the turnover is too fast,” said Siu, who has owned a Chinatown travel agency for more than four decades. “They should help us by knowing about Chinatown and the district.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not just a Central Station dilemma. Anecdotally, some San Francisco supervisors have long complained of turnover among station police captains, saying that as soon as they’ve got good footing in a neighborhood they’re already out the door, oftentimes by way of promotion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eight captains have led Central Station in the past 11 years, an average of just over a year per captain. The swelling of SFPD’s leadership has also led to the swelling of salaries and pensions. According to SFPD data, the command staff’s total salary was just over $3 million in 2016, but is projected to grow to $7.5 million by 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11961412\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11961412 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"People cross the street at a city intersection.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People cross Stockton Street in San Francisco’s Chinatown neighborhood on Sept. 13, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Board of Supervisors President Aaron Peskin, who represents neighborhoods served by Central Station, wants to stop the speedy promotions by eliminating four positions in the upper echelons of SFPD, \u003ca href=\"https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/your-sfpd/leadership\">winnowing its size\u003c/a> and redirecting funds to pay for eight police officers to walk city beats. Peskin’s budget adjustment is set to be considered at a \u003ca href=\"https://sfbos.org/committees\">Board of Supervisors Budget & Appropriations Committee hearing\u003c/a> on Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A top-heavy, bloated command staff has grown exponentially in recent years,” Peskin told KQED. “This is something that I think makes policy sense. It makes economic sense and will lead to better policing in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the move sounds like a simple budget cut, it may significantly hamper police reform efforts in San Francisco, Chief Bill Scott said at an August Board of Supervisors meeting. He admitted SFPD had staffing problems, but said the force needs administrative support as it balances the competing demands of reform and public safety concerns in the Tenderloin and surrounding neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"San Francisco Board of Supervisors President Aaron Peskin\"]‘A top-heavy, bloated command staff has grown exponentially in recent years. This is something that I think makes policy sense. It makes economic sense and will lead to better policing in San Francisco.’[/pullquote]One of the more recently minted commander positions, for instance, coordinates the rollout of information to the public when an officer shoots a person. That transparency is a key part of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/your-sfpd/police-reform/cri-current-status\">U.S. Department of Justice’s reform recommendations to SFPD\u003c/a> in 2016, Scott said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also said that goes for many of the newer command staff roles, arguing to Peskin that the department can’t just lop off a swath of commanders without consequences to that work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Decades ago, there were only a handful of people who reported directly to the chief, according to Jim Wunderman, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.bayareacouncil.org/staff/jim-wunderman/\">CEO of the Bay Area Council\u003c/a>, a nonprofit representing business interests across the region. Wunderman served in a number of roles in then-Mayor Dianne Feinstein’s administration and as chief of staff for Mayor Frank Jordan, a former chief of police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, many police captains stayed at that rank longer, even until retirement. But Wunderman recalled when Feinstein was first urged to expand the command.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Dianne’s first reaction to it was pretty negative,” he said. “Why do we want to add more administrative staff? Don’t we want to put more cops out in the stations where crime actually occurs?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually, Feinstein was convinced. Jordan was promoted in 1978 from lieutenant to a newly created commander position. Three decades later, there are 16 sworn members of SFPD’s command staff: two assistant chiefs, five deputy chiefs and nine commanders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11961410\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11961410 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person with glasses speaks to someone with long hair inside a store.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Store owner Tracy Liu (left) speaks with Edward Siu, president of the Chinatown Merchants United Association, at her shop in San Francisco’s Chinatown neighborhood on Sept. 13, 2023. Liu worries about the safety of tourists affecting business at her shop. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Wunderman said that when there’s leadership bloat “in any organization, whether it’s business or government for that matter, you end up with a loss of accountability. There’s too many people trying to talk to too many people and nothing gets done.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some former Central Station captains include David Lazar, who now serves as an assistant chief and Julian Ng, who is now a deputy chief. Paul Yep is commander of the administration bureau and Garret Tom, who was the Central Station captain 10 years ago, is retired.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can tell you as a district supervisor for most of the last quarter century that my go-to person on virtually a daily basis is the captain of Central Station,” Peskin said. “And we haven’t had a captain at all for two months, until last week, and had an acting captain for almost two years before that because of the misplaced priorities of the leadership of the department.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='More on San Francsisco Police Department' tag='san-francisco-police-department']And just like station captains, most command staff don’t stay in their roles for long, either. Data shows they don’t spend longer than three years in the positions before they’re promoted or retire. San Francisco’s pension liability for SFPD command staff has grown from under $100,000 a month in 2017 to a monthly cost of nearly $500,000 just this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You don’t want a revolving door” of top staff, Peskin said. “A revolving door is pension spiking, and yes, there is some of that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lily Lo, the founder of \u003ca href=\"https://bechinatown.com/\">BeChinatown\u003c/a>, a group that helps small businesses in the neighborhood, would like to see funding redirected to beat cops in Chinatown and other neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s good to have more police patrolling,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for Chief Scott’s concerns over implementing hard-won police reforms, retired Judge LaDoris Cordell wonders if some roles could be taken on by less-expensive civilian staff. From 2010-2015, Cordell served as an independent police auditor for San José, a civilian position. That police auditor’s job was to make recommendations to the chief, like creating a new policy on chokeholds. In 2015, she served on the Blue Ribbon Panel that made reform recommendations to SFPD \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/10454955/racist-texts-prompt-sfpd-internal-investigation\">after its racist texting scandal.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While implementing reforms is important, a strong part of creating better bonds between police and Black and brown communities is true community policing, Cordell said. A key recommendation to SFPD by the Department of Justice was to craft a strategic plan for community policing. SFPD’s website shows this goal is still “in progress.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"California Superior Court Judge LaDoris Cordell, retired\"]‘I don’t know that any of these are contradictory. They can all be done. But it’s hard to do it in a system that says your best reward is being promoted and moving up as fast as you can.’[/pullquote]That was also a recommendation of the Blue Ribbon Panel Cordell served on, which \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfdistrictattorney.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/BRP_report.pdf\">noted that community members desired (PDF)\u003c/a> police to serve “long-term assignments in a community to get to know and build trust with residents.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People “get to know them, then they get to trust them,” Cordell said. “And then, when issues come up regarding crime, they’re willing to go and talk to these officers because the officers have gotten to know them. And that is the key.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Cordell, it’s not impossible for a police force to balance promotions and to provide longevity for neighborhoods. Cordell said SFPD may need to think more creatively, like offering incentive pay or other benefits if police stay in communities longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t know that any of these are contradictory. They can all be done,” she said. “But it’s hard to do it in a system that says your best reward is being promoted and moving up as fast as you can.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Sup. Aaron Peskin's effort to axe 4 SFPD top-brass positions aims to slow the pace of promotions and keep station captains in neighborhoods longer.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1695135842,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":33,"wordCount":1659},"headData":{"title":"Will a Plan to Cut SFPD Command Staff Stop 'Revolving Door' of Top Brass? | KQED","description":"Sup. 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Central Station, a six-story gray slab at the edge of North Beach, oversees Chinatown as well as the Financial District, Fisherman’s Wharf, Telegraph Hill, Nob Hill and Russian Hill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hoping to ensure captains learn the safety needs of Chinatown merchants, Siu will walk them down bustling Stockton Street, jockeying between thick crowds of shoppers to arrive at the door of New Golden Daisy, one of those restaurants with ducks hanging in the window.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Siu and the captain may amble over to the Sweetheart Florist, \u003ca href=\"https://sweetheartfloristsf.com/collections/blanketofferings\">which also offers traditional Chinese silk blankets\u003c/a>, before going down to Kearny Street, the heart of the neighborhood’s tourist offerings, to Hon’s Wun-Tun House for soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘I mention it to the captains, the turnover is too fast. They should help us by knowing about Chinatown and the district.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Ed Siu, chairman, Chinatown Merchants United Association of San Francisco","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Siu has led tours for so many new police leaders that he can’t remember all of their names. The expansion of the San Francisco Police Department’s command staff has led to high turnover among captains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mention it to the captains, the turnover is too fast,” said Siu, who has owned a Chinatown travel agency for more than four decades. “They should help us by knowing about Chinatown and the district.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not just a Central Station dilemma. Anecdotally, some San Francisco supervisors have long complained of turnover among station police captains, saying that as soon as they’ve got good footing in a neighborhood they’re already out the door, oftentimes by way of promotion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eight captains have led Central Station in the past 11 years, an average of just over a year per captain. The swelling of SFPD’s leadership has also led to the swelling of salaries and pensions. According to SFPD data, the command staff’s total salary was just over $3 million in 2016, but is projected to grow to $7.5 million by 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11961412\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11961412 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"People cross the street at a city intersection.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-022-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People cross Stockton Street in San Francisco’s Chinatown neighborhood on Sept. 13, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Board of Supervisors President Aaron Peskin, who represents neighborhoods served by Central Station, wants to stop the speedy promotions by eliminating four positions in the upper echelons of SFPD, \u003ca href=\"https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/your-sfpd/leadership\">winnowing its size\u003c/a> and redirecting funds to pay for eight police officers to walk city beats. Peskin’s budget adjustment is set to be considered at a \u003ca href=\"https://sfbos.org/committees\">Board of Supervisors Budget & Appropriations Committee hearing\u003c/a> on Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A top-heavy, bloated command staff has grown exponentially in recent years,” Peskin told KQED. “This is something that I think makes policy sense. It makes economic sense and will lead to better policing in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the move sounds like a simple budget cut, it may significantly hamper police reform efforts in San Francisco, Chief Bill Scott said at an August Board of Supervisors meeting. He admitted SFPD had staffing problems, but said the force needs administrative support as it balances the competing demands of reform and public safety concerns in the Tenderloin and surrounding neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘A top-heavy, bloated command staff has grown exponentially in recent years. This is something that I think makes policy sense. It makes economic sense and will lead to better policing in San Francisco.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"San Francisco Board of Supervisors President Aaron Peskin","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>One of the more recently minted commander positions, for instance, coordinates the rollout of information to the public when an officer shoots a person. That transparency is a key part of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/your-sfpd/police-reform/cri-current-status\">U.S. Department of Justice’s reform recommendations to SFPD\u003c/a> in 2016, Scott said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also said that goes for many of the newer command staff roles, arguing to Peskin that the department can’t just lop off a swath of commanders without consequences to that work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Decades ago, there were only a handful of people who reported directly to the chief, according to Jim Wunderman, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.bayareacouncil.org/staff/jim-wunderman/\">CEO of the Bay Area Council\u003c/a>, a nonprofit representing business interests across the region. Wunderman served in a number of roles in then-Mayor Dianne Feinstein’s administration and as chief of staff for Mayor Frank Jordan, a former chief of police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, many police captains stayed at that rank longer, even until retirement. But Wunderman recalled when Feinstein was first urged to expand the command.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Dianne’s first reaction to it was pretty negative,” he said. “Why do we want to add more administrative staff? Don’t we want to put more cops out in the stations where crime actually occurs?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually, Feinstein was convinced. Jordan was promoted in 1978 from lieutenant to a newly created commander position. Three decades later, there are 16 sworn members of SFPD’s command staff: two assistant chiefs, five deputy chiefs and nine commanders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11961410\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11961410 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person with glasses speaks to someone with long hair inside a store.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230913-SFPDStaff-005-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Store owner Tracy Liu (left) speaks with Edward Siu, president of the Chinatown Merchants United Association, at her shop in San Francisco’s Chinatown neighborhood on Sept. 13, 2023. Liu worries about the safety of tourists affecting business at her shop. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Wunderman said that when there’s leadership bloat “in any organization, whether it’s business or government for that matter, you end up with a loss of accountability. There’s too many people trying to talk to too many people and nothing gets done.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some former Central Station captains include David Lazar, who now serves as an assistant chief and Julian Ng, who is now a deputy chief. Paul Yep is commander of the administration bureau and Garret Tom, who was the Central Station captain 10 years ago, is retired.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can tell you as a district supervisor for most of the last quarter century that my go-to person on virtually a daily basis is the captain of Central Station,” Peskin said. “And we haven’t had a captain at all for two months, until last week, and had an acting captain for almost two years before that because of the misplaced priorities of the leadership of the department.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"More on San Francsisco Police Department ","tag":"san-francisco-police-department"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>And just like station captains, most command staff don’t stay in their roles for long, either. Data shows they don’t spend longer than three years in the positions before they’re promoted or retire. San Francisco’s pension liability for SFPD command staff has grown from under $100,000 a month in 2017 to a monthly cost of nearly $500,000 just this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You don’t want a revolving door” of top staff, Peskin said. “A revolving door is pension spiking, and yes, there is some of that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lily Lo, the founder of \u003ca href=\"https://bechinatown.com/\">BeChinatown\u003c/a>, a group that helps small businesses in the neighborhood, would like to see funding redirected to beat cops in Chinatown and other neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s good to have more police patrolling,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for Chief Scott’s concerns over implementing hard-won police reforms, retired Judge LaDoris Cordell wonders if some roles could be taken on by less-expensive civilian staff. From 2010-2015, Cordell served as an independent police auditor for San José, a civilian position. That police auditor’s job was to make recommendations to the chief, like creating a new policy on chokeholds. In 2015, she served on the Blue Ribbon Panel that made reform recommendations to SFPD \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/10454955/racist-texts-prompt-sfpd-internal-investigation\">after its racist texting scandal.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While implementing reforms is important, a strong part of creating better bonds between police and Black and brown communities is true community policing, Cordell said. A key recommendation to SFPD by the Department of Justice was to craft a strategic plan for community policing. SFPD’s website shows this goal is still “in progress.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘I don’t know that any of these are contradictory. They can all be done. But it’s hard to do it in a system that says your best reward is being promoted and moving up as fast as you can.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"California Superior Court Judge LaDoris Cordell, retired","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>That was also a recommendation of the Blue Ribbon Panel Cordell served on, which \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfdistrictattorney.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/BRP_report.pdf\">noted that community members desired (PDF)\u003c/a> police to serve “long-term assignments in a community to get to know and build trust with residents.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People “get to know them, then they get to trust them,” Cordell said. “And then, when issues come up regarding crime, they’re willing to go and talk to these officers because the officers have gotten to know them. And that is the key.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Cordell, it’s not impossible for a police force to balance promotions and to provide longevity for neighborhoods. Cordell said SFPD may need to think more creatively, like offering incentive pay or other benefits if police stay in communities longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t know that any of these are contradictory. They can all be done,” she said. “But it’s hard to do it in a system that says your best reward is being promoted and moving up as fast as you can.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11961640/will-a-plan-to-cut-sfpd-command-staff-stop-revolving-door-of-top-brass-aaron-peskin","authors":["11690"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_195","news_25782","news_393","news_28242","news_27626","news_1333","news_20625","news_17968","news_38","news_196","news_30076","news_28171","news_545","news_20331","news_28135"],"featImg":"news_11961411","label":"news"},"news_11957036":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11957036","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11957036","score":null,"sort":[1690970406000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"a-campaign-to-recall-alameda-countys-progressive-da-kicks-off","title":"A Campaign to Recall Alameda County’s Progressive DA Kicks Off","publishDate":1690970406,"format":"audio","headTitle":"A Campaign to Recall Alameda County’s Progressive DA Kicks Off | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A committee called Save Alameda For Everyone (SAFE) has filed documents for a recall campaign against progressive Alameda County District Attorney Pamela Price. KQED’s \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/FitzTheReporter\">Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez\u003c/a> explains why this is happening — and whether DA Price could face the same fate as Chesa Boudin did in San Francisco.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC9916568677\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And we’re back to regularly scheduled programing, folks. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. And welcome back to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Alameda County made history last year when voters elected a progressive district attorney named Pamela Price. Price was a civil rights lawyer who grew up in the foster care and juvenile justice system, and she promised a different approach to criminal justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>When we invest in community support for people with mental illness, when we invest in services and opportunities for young people, when we invest in our community, that’s when we’ll see crime go down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now, less than a year into her term, fears about gun violence, robberies and car break ins are fueling an effort to boot race out of office and prices in a tough spot. Because while the investments she wants to make take time to trickle down into the community, there are people who want something to be done about the crimes happening right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>The opponents of progressive policies have very strong emotional arguments they can make by pointing to these cases where, you know, perhaps some tragedy happened and there wasn’t a as harsh a sentence as maybe a victim would prefer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So, how bad is crime in Alameda County, really? And what does Pamela Price say she’s going to do with it? All that and more on the recall right after this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>The recall against most delays in the state has been predicated on the idea that crime is rising and that progressive policies are contributing to rising crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez is a politics and government reporter for KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>It’s a bit of a messy argument, though, because crime has risen and dropped in trends that we see happening across the country. Sometimes, as some of our colleagues here actually have shown, the crime rates are actually higher in places with conservative district attorneys. But there is a climate of fear around crime. And so what we’re seeing is the earliest hints of a recall, a recall that has been established as a campaign committee, which means it’s taking the legal steps to establish itself, which means it’s very early. We don’t know how much money they’re going to raise or can raise or how effective they’ll be. But there’s a recall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Who is behind this recall effort in Alameda County to get Pamela Price: out of office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>But I want to temper first by saying until we see where the money is coming from. We won’t have a full picture of all of who is behind this recall effort. But so far, the names that were registered on the documents with the Albany County Elections office are Carl Chan, who is a Oakland Chinatown Chamber of Commerce leader; Phillip Dreyfus, who donated $10,000 to the effort to remove former San Francisco district attorney Chesa Boudin; and Brenda Grisham. She’s the principal officer of the recall effort against Pamela Price, and Grisham is a victims rights advocate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And I know Brenda is actually someone who’s personally affected by crime in Alameda County. Can you tell me a little bit more about her background?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Ms. grisham is from East Oakland. Her son, Christopher, was shot and killed in 2010.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>And this year, it will make 13 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>And they never caught the person who shot and killed her son. But having lost her son so early, she took that pain and galvanized it into action. And she formed a foundation named after her son, Christopher Lavelle Jones Foundation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>We just recently celebrated the 12 year anniversary of the foundation because it took me like a year to figure out how I wanted to keep Christopher’s name alive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>She’s essentially taken that experience and used it to help others who went through what she did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>Here in our local area. I’ve helped with getting some policies and procedures to help with the victims of crime, have helped in getting the victims of crime money increased so that families can, you know, really take care of the business after the loss of a loved one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What is her main argument for recalling price? Why does she want to be involved in this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>So they have not made any formal announcements yet. And when I talked to Ms.. Grisham, she said that she would not speak on behalf of the recall during our interview. But what she said personally, she doesn’t believe that folks should see lighter sentences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>Oh, sentencing is definitely an issue. Yes. We got to get to a common ground. I don’t see that’s going to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>She thinks that progressive DA’s have made too many arguments about why perpetrators of crime do what they do. Trying to analyze too much, the systems that push them into that crime and saying, you know what? If you decided to do that crime, that’s made the choice, you’re done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>The idea of who the victim is is what the problem is. The people that have been traumatized by the actual act are the victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>You know, Ms.. Grisham has personal experience with, too. She related to me an experience where she brought some of her fellow members from her foundation who are all victims or survivors of crime, to speak to Pamela Price. And she described a very tense situation where perhaps the price was perhaps not as politic with them as she could have been, in fact, to hear Grisham tell it. D.A. Price was defensive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>She never talked to them as they were victims. She never said, I’m sorry for your loss. None of that. She had a condescending tone that I don’t like. When you’re being professional, you don’t talk to people like they are, but they feel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And Joey know that there’s usually like this ramp up that happens to a recall campaign that really builds from stories or cases that people end up really pointing to as examples and rationale for recalling someone in office. Right. What are some of the important cases in Alameda County that are really fueling this effort to recall Pamela Price?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Just to take a step back from this, the opponents of progressive policies have very strong emotional arguments they can make by pointing to these cases where some tragedy happened and there wasn’t a as harsh a sentence as maybe a victim would prefer. And so we’re seeing this argument being made in the case of Jasper Wu, a toddler who was shot and killed in 2021 while in a car with his mother heading home to Fremont from San Francisco. Jasper was sadly caught up in gunshots between adult men who were shooting at one another. There are two men who are defendants in the in the case of the death of young Jasper, Wu, Ivory Bivins and Trevor GREENE were both 24 and 22, respectively. And essentially, Pamela Price has decided not to pursue what we call special circumstances enhancements with those two men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Special circumstances are basically an add on charge that a d.a. Can apply that can lead to much harsher punishments for people accused of murder. That could mean life in prison without parole or even the death penalty for the accused. Pamela Price has vowed to stop pursuing special circumstances, citing numbers that show that black defendants are disproportionately more likely to face these charges. But some residents strongly oppose this idea, especially when it comes to high profile crimes where people really want to see justice come down hard, like in the case of Jasper Woo’s death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>You know, it touches on a few different things in the community, right? Jasper Woo is an Asian child, so it touches on the hearts of those who have been really affected by the anti-Asian hate we’ve seen since the rise of the pandemic. It also touches on this fear of rising crime and this idea of lawlessness. It’s kind of a nexus case of all of these fears that are really coming together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>But to be clear and just to clarify, these two men are still facing charges, just not these sort of special circumstances enhancement that people, it sounds like, are really want to see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Yeah, if convicted, Bivins is facing 265 years to life in prison. Green faces 175 years to life in prison. These men are facing incredibly steep charges for what they did. The only difference here is there is some possibility of parole.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, I want to talk, Joe, more about this feeling that crime is up and these fears around crime, because it does sound like the tension here is between, you know, these progressive policies that maybe take a longer to really see the fruits of, whereas, you know, there’s this feeling that people want something to be done about crime right now. And they know that especially in Oakland, there’s really this feeling of rise in crime is particularly relevant. What does the data actually show, though?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Alameda County has more than a dozen cities in it. Oakland is not the only one, but perhaps the city that will become the crux of most discussions will be Oakland. Oakland’s crime numbers have fluctuated. In June, a number of crimes across the city were down. Number of types of crimes, including assaults, were down. The crime rate itself was down in total compared to the same time last year. But as we see happen in summer months, this is a normal occurrence. In July, those numbers tracked up. Crime was up compared to the same time last year. You could have different arguments about why it’s up at the same time last year, higher than last year, but it is up in July. But as we’ve seen, they’ve gone up and down and down and up. And historically, at least compared to decades ago, crime is low. But what we hear and what we hear across the state and the country is this fear of crime. And a lot of it has been stoked by these videos. We see viral videos of crime. And people are afraid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, Pamela Price’s thoughts on the recall and what happens from here. How has Pamela Price responded to this effort to recall her, Joe?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Pamela Price had some real harsh words for those who are behind this effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>These are election deniers. They lost the election. So they want to have a do over.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Subverting democracy that they’re comparable to the people in the January six insurrection, that they’re Republicans, that they’re out-of-towners. And she was she didn’t hold back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>Their candidate lost. And so they want to have a second bite at the apple. And that’s not that’s undemocratic. That’s not how democracy works. People get to vote and your vote matters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>The opponents of a power price say that crime is worse and people are afraid. And that’s bad. While prices fault for her progressive policies. And Pamela Price will argue a D.A. is one actor among many in the criminal justice system, including the police offenders, the role of education, the county and economic health and all of those have a place in the crime rate. And the D.A. does not really have a strong influence on crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>A D.A. has no effect whatsoever on crime rates. That is a failed measure. And it’s been proven over and over across the country. That’s not how you measure the performance of your district attorney. When we invest in community support for people with mental illness, when we invest in services and opportunities for young people, when we invest in our community, that’s when we’ll see crime go down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I will say I have spoken to some academics about this. They also argue that really what you need is a preponderance of data about recidivism and diversion rates. The progressives have the tough argument here because their argument is one that is measured in time, whereas people who have a more kind of law and order view are measuring it by individual trauma and individual pain, which is much easier to show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So if Pamela Price thinks crime rates are a bad way of measuring the success of a day, how does she measure success? Like what accomplishments does she really point to?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I think what she really points to is, is how she is trying to wrap around services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>We have established a civil rights bureau. We’ve created a community support bureau. We have worked on the victim witness advocates making sure that we’re expanding those services, as well as expanding the outreach of the collaborative course, the mental health courts, and dealing with mental health diversion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>She tells me we helping getting multilingual support for victims of crime. We’re updating collaborative courts so that we can have more diversions for people who use drugs and have other low level offenses, aren’t going to jail, but are instead are getting help that they need. There’s mental health courts where she’s hired some of the first mental health clinicians. You know, the mental health courts had attorneys, but no mental health experts. So she hired the.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>Obviously our Public Accountability Unit, which is part of the Civil Rights Bureau, initially looked at eight cases of police misconduct and we’re holding police accountable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>But one of the other major tenets of helping to stem the cycle of crime from her point of view, is to reduce sentencing with the hope that reducing sentencing can help communities heal, can help individuals get out of the cycle of crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>And the mandate is the same. We cannot continue to over incarcerate and over criminalize black and brown people in this community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>She’s only been in office six months before this recall campaign started. And I think she’s going to try to argue that, hey, give me time to to do what you elected me to do. I said all this on the campaign trail. I said I was going to lessen the sentences. I said I was going to do special circumstances. I said I was going to charge minors as minors and not as adults. These are the reasons that you voted for me. She will say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>Alameda County is a very special place that I’ve been embraced by for 40 years, and I was elected to do the job and I’m going to continue to do the job that I was elected to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>We’re still early on, it sounds like. But I mean, you’ve already been talking about this sort of comparison that a lot of people are making between what happened in San Francisco and the recall of former district attorney Jason Boudin. But is that a fair comparison here?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I think the lessons that we can take from Chase’s recall are select ones. But you have to remember the recall. Chase Aberdeen was in San Francisco, which is both one city and one county in Alameda County. There’s more than a dozen cities. So that’s a lot of places to gather signatures. There’s a lot of ground to have to cover. That’s going to cost some money. And so what will determine the viability of this recall effort will be the amount of money that we see it raising in the near future. Another big difference that folks pointed out to me is that the demographics of Alameda County are a lot different. San Francisco has become wealthier. San Francisco has become whiter. San Francisco has a very small black population. And now I’m not going to argue that the black population in Alameda County is monolithic. There are certainly people across the political spectrum there. But because there is a higher black population in Alameda County, there are more folks who have a more direct experience with law enforcement. More progressive folks who have argued and will argue that they want criminal justice reform. And that’s something that might have a stronger pull in Alameda County than we saw on San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, what are you going to be watching, Joe, in the next couple of months?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I’m going to be watching to see how Pambo prizes arguments evolve around keeping herself in office. I’m definitely interested to see if she continues on the same tack and the same set of arguments the Chaser routine used before he was ousted. I’m curious to see how much money the recall proponents raise and if they’re able to signature gather to the level that they want. I’m interested to see some of the cases that Pamela Price tries and see if they continue to garner the same attention as Jasper Wu’s case. There was just a community meeting just the night before. We’re recording this in the Oakland Hills, where a lot of folks in those wealthier areas were quite angry, detailing car break ins and such. And Pamela Price had to answer to a lot of angry folks who thought that her policies might be making them less safe. And she argued directly to them that she didn’t think that her policies add anything to do with the level of crime, that they should direct their ire to the police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Joe, I’m sure I’ll be talking with you about all of this again sometime soon. But thanks so much for breaking this down. I appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Absolutely. Thank you for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now that the necessary papers have been filed, the campaign will have to gather more than 93,000 signatures to get this question of whether to recall Pamela Price on the ballot. And it’s going to take a lot of cash to get that task done. Upwards of $1,000,000, according to one estimate. That was Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez, a politics and government reporter for KQED. This 40-minute conversation with Joe was cut down and edited by producer Maria Esquinca. Alan Montecillo is our senior editor. He scored this episode and added all the tape. And I am Ericka Cruz Guevara. Welcome back to The Bay. It’s so good to be back in your feed. Hope you can wrap us back into your daily routine here. And we appreciate you for listening and for rocking with us and for sticking around. 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KQED’s \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/FitzTheReporter\">Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez\u003c/a> explains why this is happening — and whether DA Price could face the same fate as Chesa Boudin did in San Francisco.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC9916568677\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And we’re back to regularly scheduled programing, folks. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. And welcome back to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Alameda County made history last year when voters elected a progressive district attorney named Pamela Price. Price was a civil rights lawyer who grew up in the foster care and juvenile justice system, and she promised a different approach to criminal justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>When we invest in community support for people with mental illness, when we invest in services and opportunities for young people, when we invest in our community, that’s when we’ll see crime go down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now, less than a year into her term, fears about gun violence, robberies and car break ins are fueling an effort to boot race out of office and prices in a tough spot. Because while the investments she wants to make take time to trickle down into the community, there are people who want something to be done about the crimes happening right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>The opponents of progressive policies have very strong emotional arguments they can make by pointing to these cases where, you know, perhaps some tragedy happened and there wasn’t a as harsh a sentence as maybe a victim would prefer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So, how bad is crime in Alameda County, really? And what does Pamela Price say she’s going to do with it? All that and more on the recall right after this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>The recall against most delays in the state has been predicated on the idea that crime is rising and that progressive policies are contributing to rising crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez is a politics and government reporter for KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>It’s a bit of a messy argument, though, because crime has risen and dropped in trends that we see happening across the country. Sometimes, as some of our colleagues here actually have shown, the crime rates are actually higher in places with conservative district attorneys. But there is a climate of fear around crime. And so what we’re seeing is the earliest hints of a recall, a recall that has been established as a campaign committee, which means it’s taking the legal steps to establish itself, which means it’s very early. We don’t know how much money they’re going to raise or can raise or how effective they’ll be. But there’s a recall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Who is behind this recall effort in Alameda County to get Pamela Price: out of office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>But I want to temper first by saying until we see where the money is coming from. We won’t have a full picture of all of who is behind this recall effort. But so far, the names that were registered on the documents with the Albany County Elections office are Carl Chan, who is a Oakland Chinatown Chamber of Commerce leader; Phillip Dreyfus, who donated $10,000 to the effort to remove former San Francisco district attorney Chesa Boudin; and Brenda Grisham. She’s the principal officer of the recall effort against Pamela Price, and Grisham is a victims rights advocate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And I know Brenda is actually someone who’s personally affected by crime in Alameda County. Can you tell me a little bit more about her background?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Ms. grisham is from East Oakland. Her son, Christopher, was shot and killed in 2010.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>And this year, it will make 13 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>And they never caught the person who shot and killed her son. But having lost her son so early, she took that pain and galvanized it into action. And she formed a foundation named after her son, Christopher Lavelle Jones Foundation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>We just recently celebrated the 12 year anniversary of the foundation because it took me like a year to figure out how I wanted to keep Christopher’s name alive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>She’s essentially taken that experience and used it to help others who went through what she did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>Here in our local area. I’ve helped with getting some policies and procedures to help with the victims of crime, have helped in getting the victims of crime money increased so that families can, you know, really take care of the business after the loss of a loved one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What is her main argument for recalling price? Why does she want to be involved in this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>So they have not made any formal announcements yet. And when I talked to Ms.. Grisham, she said that she would not speak on behalf of the recall during our interview. But what she said personally, she doesn’t believe that folks should see lighter sentences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>Oh, sentencing is definitely an issue. Yes. We got to get to a common ground. I don’t see that’s going to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>She thinks that progressive DA’s have made too many arguments about why perpetrators of crime do what they do. Trying to analyze too much, the systems that push them into that crime and saying, you know what? If you decided to do that crime, that’s made the choice, you’re done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>The idea of who the victim is is what the problem is. The people that have been traumatized by the actual act are the victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>You know, Ms.. Grisham has personal experience with, too. She related to me an experience where she brought some of her fellow members from her foundation who are all victims or survivors of crime, to speak to Pamela Price. And she described a very tense situation where perhaps the price was perhaps not as politic with them as she could have been, in fact, to hear Grisham tell it. D.A. Price was defensive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Brenda Grisham: \u003c/strong>She never talked to them as they were victims. She never said, I’m sorry for your loss. None of that. She had a condescending tone that I don’t like. When you’re being professional, you don’t talk to people like they are, but they feel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And Joey know that there’s usually like this ramp up that happens to a recall campaign that really builds from stories or cases that people end up really pointing to as examples and rationale for recalling someone in office. Right. What are some of the important cases in Alameda County that are really fueling this effort to recall Pamela Price?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Just to take a step back from this, the opponents of progressive policies have very strong emotional arguments they can make by pointing to these cases where some tragedy happened and there wasn’t a as harsh a sentence as maybe a victim would prefer. And so we’re seeing this argument being made in the case of Jasper Wu, a toddler who was shot and killed in 2021 while in a car with his mother heading home to Fremont from San Francisco. Jasper was sadly caught up in gunshots between adult men who were shooting at one another. There are two men who are defendants in the in the case of the death of young Jasper, Wu, Ivory Bivins and Trevor GREENE were both 24 and 22, respectively. And essentially, Pamela Price has decided not to pursue what we call special circumstances enhancements with those two men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Special circumstances are basically an add on charge that a d.a. Can apply that can lead to much harsher punishments for people accused of murder. That could mean life in prison without parole or even the death penalty for the accused. Pamela Price has vowed to stop pursuing special circumstances, citing numbers that show that black defendants are disproportionately more likely to face these charges. But some residents strongly oppose this idea, especially when it comes to high profile crimes where people really want to see justice come down hard, like in the case of Jasper Woo’s death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>You know, it touches on a few different things in the community, right? Jasper Woo is an Asian child, so it touches on the hearts of those who have been really affected by the anti-Asian hate we’ve seen since the rise of the pandemic. It also touches on this fear of rising crime and this idea of lawlessness. It’s kind of a nexus case of all of these fears that are really coming together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>But to be clear and just to clarify, these two men are still facing charges, just not these sort of special circumstances enhancement that people, it sounds like, are really want to see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Yeah, if convicted, Bivins is facing 265 years to life in prison. Green faces 175 years to life in prison. These men are facing incredibly steep charges for what they did. The only difference here is there is some possibility of parole.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, I want to talk, Joe, more about this feeling that crime is up and these fears around crime, because it does sound like the tension here is between, you know, these progressive policies that maybe take a longer to really see the fruits of, whereas, you know, there’s this feeling that people want something to be done about crime right now. And they know that especially in Oakland, there’s really this feeling of rise in crime is particularly relevant. What does the data actually show, though?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Alameda County has more than a dozen cities in it. Oakland is not the only one, but perhaps the city that will become the crux of most discussions will be Oakland. Oakland’s crime numbers have fluctuated. In June, a number of crimes across the city were down. Number of types of crimes, including assaults, were down. The crime rate itself was down in total compared to the same time last year. But as we see happen in summer months, this is a normal occurrence. In July, those numbers tracked up. Crime was up compared to the same time last year. You could have different arguments about why it’s up at the same time last year, higher than last year, but it is up in July. But as we’ve seen, they’ve gone up and down and down and up. And historically, at least compared to decades ago, crime is low. But what we hear and what we hear across the state and the country is this fear of crime. And a lot of it has been stoked by these videos. We see viral videos of crime. And people are afraid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, Pamela Price’s thoughts on the recall and what happens from here. How has Pamela Price responded to this effort to recall her, Joe?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Pamela Price had some real harsh words for those who are behind this effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>These are election deniers. They lost the election. So they want to have a do over.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Subverting democracy that they’re comparable to the people in the January six insurrection, that they’re Republicans, that they’re out-of-towners. And she was she didn’t hold back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>Their candidate lost. And so they want to have a second bite at the apple. And that’s not that’s undemocratic. That’s not how democracy works. People get to vote and your vote matters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>The opponents of a power price say that crime is worse and people are afraid. And that’s bad. While prices fault for her progressive policies. And Pamela Price will argue a D.A. is one actor among many in the criminal justice system, including the police offenders, the role of education, the county and economic health and all of those have a place in the crime rate. And the D.A. does not really have a strong influence on crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>A D.A. has no effect whatsoever on crime rates. That is a failed measure. And it’s been proven over and over across the country. That’s not how you measure the performance of your district attorney. When we invest in community support for people with mental illness, when we invest in services and opportunities for young people, when we invest in our community, that’s when we’ll see crime go down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I will say I have spoken to some academics about this. They also argue that really what you need is a preponderance of data about recidivism and diversion rates. The progressives have the tough argument here because their argument is one that is measured in time, whereas people who have a more kind of law and order view are measuring it by individual trauma and individual pain, which is much easier to show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So if Pamela Price thinks crime rates are a bad way of measuring the success of a day, how does she measure success? Like what accomplishments does she really point to?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I think what she really points to is, is how she is trying to wrap around services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>We have established a civil rights bureau. We’ve created a community support bureau. We have worked on the victim witness advocates making sure that we’re expanding those services, as well as expanding the outreach of the collaborative course, the mental health courts, and dealing with mental health diversion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>She tells me we helping getting multilingual support for victims of crime. We’re updating collaborative courts so that we can have more diversions for people who use drugs and have other low level offenses, aren’t going to jail, but are instead are getting help that they need. There’s mental health courts where she’s hired some of the first mental health clinicians. You know, the mental health courts had attorneys, but no mental health experts. So she hired the.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>Obviously our Public Accountability Unit, which is part of the Civil Rights Bureau, initially looked at eight cases of police misconduct and we’re holding police accountable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>But one of the other major tenets of helping to stem the cycle of crime from her point of view, is to reduce sentencing with the hope that reducing sentencing can help communities heal, can help individuals get out of the cycle of crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>And the mandate is the same. We cannot continue to over incarcerate and over criminalize black and brown people in this community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>She’s only been in office six months before this recall campaign started. And I think she’s going to try to argue that, hey, give me time to to do what you elected me to do. I said all this on the campaign trail. I said I was going to lessen the sentences. I said I was going to do special circumstances. I said I was going to charge minors as minors and not as adults. These are the reasons that you voted for me. She will say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Pamela Price: \u003c/strong>Alameda County is a very special place that I’ve been embraced by for 40 years, and I was elected to do the job and I’m going to continue to do the job that I was elected to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>We’re still early on, it sounds like. But I mean, you’ve already been talking about this sort of comparison that a lot of people are making between what happened in San Francisco and the recall of former district attorney Jason Boudin. But is that a fair comparison here?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I think the lessons that we can take from Chase’s recall are select ones. But you have to remember the recall. Chase Aberdeen was in San Francisco, which is both one city and one county in Alameda County. There’s more than a dozen cities. So that’s a lot of places to gather signatures. There’s a lot of ground to have to cover. That’s going to cost some money. And so what will determine the viability of this recall effort will be the amount of money that we see it raising in the near future. Another big difference that folks pointed out to me is that the demographics of Alameda County are a lot different. San Francisco has become wealthier. San Francisco has become whiter. San Francisco has a very small black population. And now I’m not going to argue that the black population in Alameda County is monolithic. There are certainly people across the political spectrum there. But because there is a higher black population in Alameda County, there are more folks who have a more direct experience with law enforcement. More progressive folks who have argued and will argue that they want criminal justice reform. And that’s something that might have a stronger pull in Alameda County than we saw on San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, what are you going to be watching, Joe, in the next couple of months?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I’m going to be watching to see how Pambo prizes arguments evolve around keeping herself in office. I’m definitely interested to see if she continues on the same tack and the same set of arguments the Chaser routine used before he was ousted. I’m curious to see how much money the recall proponents raise and if they’re able to signature gather to the level that they want. I’m interested to see some of the cases that Pamela Price tries and see if they continue to garner the same attention as Jasper Wu’s case. There was just a community meeting just the night before. We’re recording this in the Oakland Hills, where a lot of folks in those wealthier areas were quite angry, detailing car break ins and such. And Pamela Price had to answer to a lot of angry folks who thought that her policies might be making them less safe. And she argued directly to them that she didn’t think that her policies add anything to do with the level of crime, that they should direct their ire to the police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Joe, I’m sure I’ll be talking with you about all of this again sometime soon. But thanks so much for breaking this down. I appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Absolutely. Thank you for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now that the necessary papers have been filed, the campaign will have to gather more than 93,000 signatures to get this question of whether to recall Pamela Price on the ballot. And it’s going to take a lot of cash to get that task done. Upwards of $1,000,000, according to one estimate. That was Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez, a politics and government reporter for KQED. This 40-minute conversation with Joe was cut down and edited by producer Maria Esquinca. Alan Montecillo is our senior editor. He scored this episode and added all the tape. And I am Ericka Cruz Guevara. Welcome back to The Bay. It’s so good to be back in your feed. Hope you can wrap us back into your daily routine here. And we appreciate you for listening and for rocking with us and for sticking around. We’ll talk to you next time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11957036/a-campaign-to-recall-alameda-countys-progressive-da-kicks-off","authors":["8654","11690","11802","11649"],"programs":["news_28779"],"categories":["news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_23318","news_28066","news_24461","news_20625","news_22598"],"featImg":"news_11957037","label":"source_news_11957036"},"news_11956286":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11956286","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11956286","score":null,"sort":[1690156012000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"lawyers-for-antioch-police-officers-seek-to-reframe-racist-texts-in-court","title":"Lawyers for Antioch Police Officers Seek to Reframe Racist Texts in Court","publishDate":1690156012,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Lawyers for Antioch Police Officers Seek to Reframe Racist Texts in Court | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Antioch police officers who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11947876/antioch-police-racist-texting-scandal-confirms-what-many-black-and-brown-residents-have-decried-for-years\">sent racist text messages\u003c/a> are seeking additional defense protections and to avoid testifying altogether, as cases questioning whether racism factored into arrests they made get their day in court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This comes as lawyers for four men accused of murder and attempted murder in a 2021 shooting sought to dismiss the charges against their clients during a hearing on Friday. They argued the messages sent by the investigating officers prove that the officers had a racial bias against the men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing is one of the first major tests of the \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2542&search_keywords=racial+justice+act\">Racial Justice Act\u003c/a>, a 2021 California law prohibiting the state from seeking a conviction based on race. It’s also the first time officers involved in the texting scandal are set to publicly speak about the fiasco.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Ellen McDonnell, public defender, Contra Costa County\"]‘It’s critical that there be a full hearing and that each officer be questioned regarding their role in these text messages and the way they handled policing in this case.’[/pullquote]In the last few months, an ongoing federal investigation into criminal wrongdoing in the Antioch Police Department \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/07/15/im-already-good-at-racial-profiling-new-batch-of-antioch-cops-texts-show-how-much-racism-and-policing-intertwined/\">uncovered hundreds of racist text messages\u003c/a> sent between officers, \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/04/11/exclusive-inside-the-antioch-police-departments-secret-racist-texting-group/\">reported first by the East Bay Times\u003c/a>. Nearly half of the police officers in the department were named in connection to the texts, with the majority of messages being sent between 2020 and 2021. The texts used racial slurs to describe Black and Latino Antioch residents, including Police Chief Steven Ford and Mayor Lamar Thorpe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the texts talk specifically about two of the four defendants in Friday’s hearing. All four are young Black men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the text messages, officers referred to the men using the n-word, joked about assaulting them during their arrests and shared photos of the injured men in their hospital beds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Police attorneys argued that the officers — subpoenaed to appear as witnesses — should have their own lawyers present to defend them. Typically, witnesses answer questions from the district attorney and lawyers for the defendants and do not have their own lawyers present. In a packed courtroom on Friday, an attorney for the officers, Nicole Pifari, said that if the court found the nine officers to be racist, they would suffer “instantaneous, far reaching and likely permanent damage” to their reputations and employment opportunities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She requested the officers’ attorneys be allowed to ask their own questions and call their own witnesses to defend the officers during the hearing — steps she said were essential to providing the full context of the message exchanges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When you are accused of something very serious, you have the right to defend yourself,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11947876,news_11946168,news_11946551\" label=\"Related Stories\"]Presiding Superior Court Judge David Goldstein agreed with the principle but said the Racial Justice Act does not provide for officers to have their own defense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said that if the court rules that the officers acted out of racism, it would not be the ruling that made the officers racist, but the underlying evidence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He denied her request, but agreed that officers’ attorneys could be present to advise their clients on whether or not to invoke the Fifth Amendment: the officers’ right to stay silent if answering a question might incriminate them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That, of course, is if the officers testify at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawyers for Chief Ford — also subpoenaed to testify — successfully argued to excuse the chief from testimony because he joined the department after the text messages were sent. Last Wednesday, the chief \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=654987546653981&set=a.228771749275565\">announced that he will retire on Aug. 11\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additionally, at least five of the nine subpoenaed officers are claiming they are injured and cannot make it to court, \u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/07/18/antioch-claims-subpoenaed-officers-have-industrial-injuries-to-avoid-testifying-about-racism-alleged-crimes/\">according to the East Bay Times\u003c/a>. But defense attorney Carmela Caramagno disputed that, saying her investigator saw allegedly injured officers driving tractors, hosting pool parties and walking leisurely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Like, what kind of medical leave you guys are on? For accountability, you guys need to be here,” said Shrielle Cobbs, the mother of defendant Trent Allen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Contra Costa Public Defender Ellen McDonnell agreed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have a situation where officers exchanged animal memes of Black and brown people, where they explained that they were targeting Black people based on their race. And we have four young Black men on trial here,” she said on Friday. “It’s critical that there be a full hearing and that each officer be questioned regarding their role in these text messages and the way they handled policing in this case.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seeing the messages was devastating for the families of the young men. Mariah Thomas is the fiancée of Eric Windom, and the cousin of Trent Allen, two of the defendants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They wanted to kill my cousin Trent Allen. Eric Windom, that’s my partner, my lover. The stuff that they said about them … it’s horrible,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing will continue on Aug. 25 and all nine officers are under subpoena to appear. If they do not appear when called, Judge Goldstein could explore other ways to compel them to testify.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"An ongoing court hearing will determine if Antioch police officers — who sent racist text messages and are seeking additional defense protections — violated a state law aimed at ending racism in the criminal justice system.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1690218402,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":876},"headData":{"title":"Lawyers for Antioch Police Officers Seek to Reframe Racist Texts in Court | KQED","description":"An ongoing court hearing will determine if Antioch police officers — who sent racist text messages and are seeking additional defense protections — violated a state law aimed at ending racism in the criminal justice system.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11956286/lawyers-for-antioch-police-officers-seek-to-reframe-racist-texts-in-court","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Antioch police officers who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11947876/antioch-police-racist-texting-scandal-confirms-what-many-black-and-brown-residents-have-decried-for-years\">sent racist text messages\u003c/a> are seeking additional defense protections and to avoid testifying altogether, as cases questioning whether racism factored into arrests they made get their day in court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This comes as lawyers for four men accused of murder and attempted murder in a 2021 shooting sought to dismiss the charges against their clients during a hearing on Friday. They argued the messages sent by the investigating officers prove that the officers had a racial bias against the men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing is one of the first major tests of the \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2542&search_keywords=racial+justice+act\">Racial Justice Act\u003c/a>, a 2021 California law prohibiting the state from seeking a conviction based on race. It’s also the first time officers involved in the texting scandal are set to publicly speak about the fiasco.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘It’s critical that there be a full hearing and that each officer be questioned regarding their role in these text messages and the way they handled policing in this case.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Ellen McDonnell, public defender, Contra Costa County","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>In the last few months, an ongoing federal investigation into criminal wrongdoing in the Antioch Police Department \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/07/15/im-already-good-at-racial-profiling-new-batch-of-antioch-cops-texts-show-how-much-racism-and-policing-intertwined/\">uncovered hundreds of racist text messages\u003c/a> sent between officers, \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/04/11/exclusive-inside-the-antioch-police-departments-secret-racist-texting-group/\">reported first by the East Bay Times\u003c/a>. Nearly half of the police officers in the department were named in connection to the texts, with the majority of messages being sent between 2020 and 2021. The texts used racial slurs to describe Black and Latino Antioch residents, including Police Chief Steven Ford and Mayor Lamar Thorpe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the texts talk specifically about two of the four defendants in Friday’s hearing. All four are young Black men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the text messages, officers referred to the men using the n-word, joked about assaulting them during their arrests and shared photos of the injured men in their hospital beds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Police attorneys argued that the officers — subpoenaed to appear as witnesses — should have their own lawyers present to defend them. Typically, witnesses answer questions from the district attorney and lawyers for the defendants and do not have their own lawyers present. In a packed courtroom on Friday, an attorney for the officers, Nicole Pifari, said that if the court found the nine officers to be racist, they would suffer “instantaneous, far reaching and likely permanent damage” to their reputations and employment opportunities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She requested the officers’ attorneys be allowed to ask their own questions and call their own witnesses to defend the officers during the hearing — steps she said were essential to providing the full context of the message exchanges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When you are accused of something very serious, you have the right to defend yourself,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11947876,news_11946168,news_11946551","label":"Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Presiding Superior Court Judge David Goldstein agreed with the principle but said the Racial Justice Act does not provide for officers to have their own defense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said that if the court rules that the officers acted out of racism, it would not be the ruling that made the officers racist, but the underlying evidence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He denied her request, but agreed that officers’ attorneys could be present to advise their clients on whether or not to invoke the Fifth Amendment: the officers’ right to stay silent if answering a question might incriminate them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That, of course, is if the officers testify at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawyers for Chief Ford — also subpoenaed to testify — successfully argued to excuse the chief from testimony because he joined the department after the text messages were sent. Last Wednesday, the chief \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=654987546653981&set=a.228771749275565\">announced that he will retire on Aug. 11\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additionally, at least five of the nine subpoenaed officers are claiming they are injured and cannot make it to court, \u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/07/18/antioch-claims-subpoenaed-officers-have-industrial-injuries-to-avoid-testifying-about-racism-alleged-crimes/\">according to the East Bay Times\u003c/a>. But defense attorney Carmela Caramagno disputed that, saying her investigator saw allegedly injured officers driving tractors, hosting pool parties and walking leisurely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Like, what kind of medical leave you guys are on? For accountability, you guys need to be here,” said Shrielle Cobbs, the mother of defendant Trent Allen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Contra Costa Public Defender Ellen McDonnell agreed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have a situation where officers exchanged animal memes of Black and brown people, where they explained that they were targeting Black people based on their race. And we have four young Black men on trial here,” she said on Friday. “It’s critical that there be a full hearing and that each officer be questioned regarding their role in these text messages and the way they handled policing in this case.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seeing the messages was devastating for the families of the young men. Mariah Thomas is the fiancée of Eric Windom, and the cousin of Trent Allen, two of the defendants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They wanted to kill my cousin Trent Allen. Eric Windom, that’s my partner, my lover. The stuff that they said about them … it’s horrible,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing will continue on Aug. 25 and all nine officers are under subpoena to appear. If they do not appear when called, Judge Goldstein could explore other ways to compel them to testify.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11956286/lawyers-for-antioch-police-officers-seek-to-reframe-racist-texts-in-court","authors":["11772"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_19122","news_32621","news_17725","news_27626","news_20625","news_19216","news_32002"],"featImg":"news_11956302","label":"news"},"news_11947876":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11947876","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11947876","score":null,"sort":[1682633780000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"antioch-police-racist-texting-scandal-confirms-what-many-black-and-brown-residents-have-decried-for-years","title":"Antioch Police Racist Texting Scandal Confirms What Many Black and Brown Residents Have Decried for Years","publishDate":1682633780,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Antioch Police Racist Texting Scandal Confirms What Many Black and Brown Residents Have Decried for Years | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":253,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>Warning: This story includes quotations with racist and vulgar language as well as descriptions of violent attacks.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kathryn Wade marched up to the microphone in the City Council chambers before the meeting had even started with something to say. Wade is no stranger to the City Council in Antioch. She’s been coming here to talk and yell about the Antioch Police Department (APD) and their treatment of Black people for the past decade, since she was just one of a small handful of residents speaking up.[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Gigi Crowder, executive director of NAMI Contra Costa\"]‘I knew from the beginning that it was a racist city. But then I believed that there was a possibility for change.’[/pullquote]Now, on this early Tuesday evening in April, she was far from alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Shut it all down,” Wade screamed across the packed room.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antioch sits in the middle of a storm of scandal after the release of violent, racist, homophobic and sexist text messages by the city’s police officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The disturbing texts came to light during an investigation by the FBI and the Contra Costa County District Attorney’s Office into \u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/09/10/exclusive-fbi-criminal-investigation-of-antioch-pittsburg-cops-grows-grand-jury-convening/\">alleged misconduct\u003c/a> by police in Antioch and the neighboring city of Pittsburg. Some of the issues being investigated include violent and excessive use of police dogs and eliciting false confessions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this month, the DA’s office released two reports \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23778279/disclosure-report-court-redactions-final.pdf\">detailing the contents\u003c/a> of multiple\u003ca href=\"https://www.contracosta.ca.gov/DocumentCenter/View/78905/Terryon-Pugh-Redacted-Investigative-Report\"> text message\u003c/a> exchanges written by 17 Antioch police officers from various time periods between 2019 and 2022. They include two texts from \u003ca href=\"https://www.antiochpoa.org/about/presidents-message\">Rick Hoffman\u003c/a>, the president of Antioch’s police union.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But far more officers were included on the text chains, according to a letter sent by Ellen McDonnell , the county’s chief public defender, to DA Diana Becton. According to McDonnell, 45 officers — almost half of the entire department — had received the texts and did nothing. At least 16 of those “are in leadership roles at APD as detectives, sergeants, and lieutenants,” McDonnell wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re going to have to listen,” Wade cried out in the council chambers. Her words were directed at the council members, Mayor Lamar Thorpe, and Police Chief Steven Ford, who joined the department last year, after most of the text messages were sent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re going to have to absorb a lot of people’s pain,” Wade told them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Including her pain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wade’s son, Malad Baldwin, was 22-years-old when he was\u003ca href=\"https://www.courthousenews.com/cops-will-face-moms-distress-claim-in-sons-beating/\"> a victim of police violence\u003c/a>, she claims. In 2014, he was asleep in Wade’s car parked outside their house when police dragged him from the vehicle and beat him, according to a lawsuit filed against the city and the officers. In the complaint, Wade said she came out of the house to see them striking her son, and that they beat him until he lost consciousness. The suit claims that police slammed Baldwin into the sidewalk, spread his legs and repeatedly struck him there. “They hit him right in between his butt cheeks,” Wade said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antioch police claim Baldwin was drunk and combative. He was charged with resisting arrest, but those charges were dropped. The lawsuit was settled out of court, with officers admitting no wrongdoing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wade says the beating changed her son. He was depressed, riddled with anxiety, unable to hold down a job. That was the first of several incidents between Baldwin and Antioch police. Wade says it was as if they were stalking him, harassing him every where he went.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2020, Baldwin died by suicide. Wade faults Antioch police for her son’s mental trauma, and ultimately for his death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antioch police have not yet responded to requests for comment regarding subsequent interactions with Baldwin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, Wade says, “It feels like my baby died all over again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s because Baldwin was mentioned in the text messages.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>“I knew from the beginning that it was a racist city”\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Officers joked about Baldwin’s claims that they beat him on his backside, and about the department using deadly force. “But we kill more Mexicans than anything else. So Blacks can feel safe,” one officer texted. “Sorry. Reverse that,” he followed up a minute later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those are some of the tamer texts released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You’ll hear people talk about “old Antioch” — which refers to the place it used to be: White, working class, a sundown town, where people of color knew not to be after dark.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But all that has changed. Antioch is now 36% white, 35% Latino, and 20% Black, according to the\u003ca href=\"https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/antiochcitycalifornia/LND110210\"> 2020 census\u003c/a>. The shift happened both gradually and quickly. At first, Black people and other people of color moved here for the reasons everyone else did: bigger houses, better schools, a shot at the suburban American dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11947886\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11947886\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Two Black men, and one woman hold signs at a rally. One sign says: 'Fire & Decertify.' The others says 'We demand accountability.'\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dozens of community members and activists join a rally outside of the Antioch Police Department on April 18, 2023, to protest the racist and homophobic text messages shared among members of the department. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the past decade or so, gentrification and exploding housing costs in cities such as San Francisco and Oakland drove displaced poor people here — especially people of color. As Oakland’s Black population shrank, Antioch’s grew.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This new great migration is happening across America, changing the suburbs that have long been thought of as white space into the most diverse places in the nation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On this Tuesday night, the special meeting of the City Council was narrowly focused on addressing the ballooning scandal resulting from the racist texts, with the council voting to audit the department’s internal affairs division, its hiring and promotional practices, and to perform an equity audit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those all passed easily, but the meeting, like the one the week before, was about more than just policy. People needed to speak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almost 100 people protested in front of the police station ahead of the council meeting, walking a stone’s throw from City Hall.[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"antioch\"]“Antioch didn’t look like this, but it does now,” said Timothy Manly. “When everybody was fixing their issues in the ’60s, Antioch didn’t think that they’d have to.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the ’60s, Antioch was almost entirely white.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re just reaping what you sowed,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people told stories of their own encounters with Antioch police, others spoke of the experiences of children and loved ones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These individuals that have spoken tonight are victims of police brutality, they are victims of crimes,” Public Defender Ellen McDonnell said when it was her turn at the dais. “The community and our clients have been sounding the alarm about your police department for years and years and years.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shayla Bowers talked about how important it was to name the officers. “Our Black and brown people, as you see in this room, we got names, we got banners, we are public about our deaths in our community,” she said. “We need to be public about these police officers that are doing harm in our community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I knew from the beginning that it was a racist city,” said Gigi Crowder, the executive director of NAMI Contra Costa, an affiliate of the National Alliance on Mental Illness, and an Antioch resident. “But then I believed that there was a possibility for change.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She believed that, she told the council, because it wasn’t just demographics that were shifting — the balance of power was too.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘I’ll bury that N*&*er in my fields’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For a long time the Antioch’s leadership did not reflect its diversifying population. That changed in 2020, with a Black majority emerging on the five-person City Council, including Mayor Thorpe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In 2020, when all I asked for was a community to look at policies to do police reform,” Thorpe reminded the council chambers, “people lost their collective minds.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If they could’ve hung me from the highest tree in Antioch they would have,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A group of pro-police, almost entirely white residents, many affiliated with a private Facebook group called “Back the Blue,” flooded the then-online-only council meetings, pushing back against the new majority, and any suggestions of police reform. They mounted a recall campaign against Thorpe, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ktvu.com/news/recall-of-antioch-mayor-dies-following-allegations-of-fraud\">which failed to gather enough signatures\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11887516/why-was-angelo-quintos-death-ruled-an-accident\">December 2020 death of Angelo Quinto\u003c/a> in the custody of Antioch police, the council voted for police to wear body cameras, a reform many police departments passed over a decade ago, but Antioch had long resisted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one of the released texts, body cameras are mentioned. Discussing an arrest made with the Pittsburg Police Department, whose officers did have cameras, an Antioch officer wrote: “If Pitt didn’t have all those body cams and that was us … we would have f&*ked him up more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another police officer, Devon Wenger, responded, “I agree. That’s why I don’t like body cameras.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11947926\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11947926\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1.jpg\" alt=\"A small group of Black women stand on the sidewalk holding signs and protesting racism among police in Antioch.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kiora Hansen and Della Currie join the protest in Antioch in front of the city’s police department. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In a statement to \u003ca href=\"https://abcnews.go.com/US/city-antioch-police-officers-face-lawsuit-alleged-civil/story?id=98728222\">ABC News\u003c/a>, Wenger denied he was being racist, pointing out that he only sent that one text. “Out of both released reports, the initial 21-page-report and the secondary 14-page report, I just simply said I do not like body cams,” he told them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To put it bluntly, that’s not racist.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wenger also suggested that the investigation into Antioch police may have been “corrupted.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NPR’s requests to speak to the officers named in the DA’s report were either ignored or declined.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mayor Thorpe shows up in the police text messages too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ll buy someone a prime rib dinner at House of prime rib to 40 that mfr during the protest today,” one officer texted, referring to “the potential use of a .40mm less lethal launcher being utilized” on the mayor, the \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23778279/disclosure-report-court-redactions-final.pdf\">DA’s report \u003c/a>explains. A .40mm weapon is a kind of gun that fires hard-foam projectiles. Their use \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-12/protesters-complain-about-excessive-force\">against protesters and for crowd control\u003c/a>, as well as their designation as less lethal, has been criticized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That text was sent in June 2020, during the heart of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/06/05/867060621/being-black-in-america-we-have-a-place-in-this-world-too\">national uprising\u003c/a> over the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/05/27/862956646/george-floyds-death-stokes-call-for-minneapolis-officers-to-be-charged-with-murd\">murder of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer\u003c/a>. Another text referred to Floyd as “the gorilla who died.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The text messages continuously refer to Black people as “gorillas” and “monkeys,” and officers repeatedly texted photos of gorillas to each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A young activist, Shagoofa Khan, prominent in organizing protests in Antioch, including \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11837708/a-hunger-strike-in-antioch-and-what-it-says-about-the-changing-suburbs\">a hunger strike in front of the police station\u003c/a>, was also mentioned in the texts. She “looks like an Arabian nights cum dumpster,” a sergeant wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The same sergeant, Josh Evans, texted in reference to the arrest of a Black suspect, “I’ll bury that N*&*er in my fields.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Four minutes later he texted again. “And yes… it was a hard R on purpose.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘I’m only stopping them cuz they black’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The texts aren’t just filled with racist and sexist vitriol, they also seem to suggest possible civil rights violations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a group chat, one officer asks the others what they are doing. The response from another, “violating civil rights.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Racial profiling was a “modus operandi with respect to these officers,” civil rights lawyer John Burris claimed at a news conference on April 20, announcing a federal lawsuit against the city, the police department, and individual officers on behalf of a growing list of victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They would stop people just because they were Black, they would harass them, they would search them, and ultimately arrest them if they thought they could get away with it,” he alleged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They didn’t want any kind of oral, written, videotape of the confession,” he went on. “They wanted the confession to be such that they could make up the confession and convince their superiors that the person has confessed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said he was also disturbed by text messages that suggested officers took pleasure in using violent force, especially on Black people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris’ clients include those who say they were repeatedly targeted and falsely accused by Antioch police officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Adam Carpenter, one of the plaintiffs, was arrested for possession of a firearm by four of the officers named in the scandal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have been harassed and targeted and railroaded by the Antioch police department for the last 10 years,” Carpenter told a scrum of reporters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11947885\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11947885\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A young woman with a bullhorn leads protesters on the street holding signs.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shagoofa Khan leads a rally of dozens of community members from the Antioch Police Department to City Hall on April 18, 2023, to protest the racist and homophobic text messages shared among the department. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>According to the lawsuit, in the year before his arrest he was stopped by the same officers almost 10 times.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carpenter spent 11 months in jail before all charges against him were dropped. The complaint alleges that one of the officers involved in Carpenter’s arrest texted, “I’m only stopping them cuz they black.” It alleges another wrote, “I sometimes just say people gave me a full confession when they didn’t. gets filed easier.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They have basically ruined my life,” Carpenter said. “I’ve not been able to get a job, and I’m a journeyman by trade, a painter.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s been devastating, like living in hell.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others shared similar stories, claiming patterns of harassment, planted evidence, and manufactured confessions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Antioch city attorney as well as current and former police chiefs have not yet responded to requests for comment on the litigation.[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Antioch Mayor Lamar Thorpe\"]‘In 2020, when all I asked for was a community to look at policies to do police reform, people lost their collective minds.’[/pullquote]Michael Rains, a former police officer and lawyer who represents some, but not all, of the officers, responded with a brief statement. “I understand this story is newsworthy on a number of fronts,” he wrote, “including, from my perspective, whether the due process and privacy rights of officers were abandoned by the Court and District Attorney.” But he added that he has advised his clients not to speak publicly, and is himself not granting interviews “at the present time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Current Antioch Police Chief Steven Ford, who is Black, came from San Francisco to lead the department a year ago. At the first council meeting after the scandal broke, he said that he is trying not to reform, but to reframe policing there. “We’re going to shift how things are done structurally, how they are done politically, how they are done administratively,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No one can tell yet just how many \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946551/antiochs-racist-police-text-message-scandal-could-mean-dropped-charges-in-other-cases\">criminal cases might hang in the balance \u003c/a>after these revelations. Burris, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ktvu.com/news/congressmen-want-us-attorney-general-to-investigate-antioch-police\">alongside others\u003c/a> including two members of Congress, are calling for the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate the Antioch Police Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carpenter said that in a strange way, he was grateful to read all the texts. At least they confirmed for everyone else what he’d been experiencing for so long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has been the same for Kathryn Wade. Reading the texts may have reopened the wound of her son’s death, but at least, she says, “Everything is out in the open, now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=These+California+police+officers+have+created+a+scandal.+They+sent+racist+texts&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Residents of color in this rapidly changing Bay Area suburb have long accused the police department of racism, corruption and abuse.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1682634445,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":72,"wordCount":2713},"headData":{"title":"Antioch Police Racist Texting Scandal Confirms What Many Black and Brown Residents Have Decried for Years | KQED","description":"Residents of color in this rapidly changing Bay Area suburb have long accused the police department of racism, corruption and abuse.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"nprByline":"\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/people/984821709/sandhya-dirks\">Sandhya Dirks\u003c/a>","nprImageAgency":"Sandhya Dirks/NPR","nprStoryId":"1171369375","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=1171369375&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2023/04/27/1171369375/california-police-scandal-racist-texts?ft=nprml&f=1171369375","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Thu, 27 Apr 2023 12:50:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Thu, 27 Apr 2023 05:01:00 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Thu, 27 Apr 2023 12:50:45 -0400","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11947876/antioch-police-racist-texting-scandal-confirms-what-many-black-and-brown-residents-have-decried-for-years","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Warning: This story includes quotations with racist and vulgar language as well as descriptions of violent attacks.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kathryn Wade marched up to the microphone in the City Council chambers before the meeting had even started with something to say. Wade is no stranger to the City Council in Antioch. She’s been coming here to talk and yell about the Antioch Police Department (APD) and their treatment of Black people for the past decade, since she was just one of a small handful of residents speaking up.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘I knew from the beginning that it was a racist city. But then I believed that there was a possibility for change.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Gigi Crowder, executive director of NAMI Contra Costa","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Now, on this early Tuesday evening in April, she was far from alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Shut it all down,” Wade screamed across the packed room.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antioch sits in the middle of a storm of scandal after the release of violent, racist, homophobic and sexist text messages by the city’s police officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The disturbing texts came to light during an investigation by the FBI and the Contra Costa County District Attorney’s Office into \u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/09/10/exclusive-fbi-criminal-investigation-of-antioch-pittsburg-cops-grows-grand-jury-convening/\">alleged misconduct\u003c/a> by police in Antioch and the neighboring city of Pittsburg. Some of the issues being investigated include violent and excessive use of police dogs and eliciting false confessions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this month, the DA’s office released two reports \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23778279/disclosure-report-court-redactions-final.pdf\">detailing the contents\u003c/a> of multiple\u003ca href=\"https://www.contracosta.ca.gov/DocumentCenter/View/78905/Terryon-Pugh-Redacted-Investigative-Report\"> text message\u003c/a> exchanges written by 17 Antioch police officers from various time periods between 2019 and 2022. They include two texts from \u003ca href=\"https://www.antiochpoa.org/about/presidents-message\">Rick Hoffman\u003c/a>, the president of Antioch’s police union.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But far more officers were included on the text chains, according to a letter sent by Ellen McDonnell , the county’s chief public defender, to DA Diana Becton. According to McDonnell, 45 officers — almost half of the entire department — had received the texts and did nothing. At least 16 of those “are in leadership roles at APD as detectives, sergeants, and lieutenants,” McDonnell wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re going to have to listen,” Wade cried out in the council chambers. Her words were directed at the council members, Mayor Lamar Thorpe, and Police Chief Steven Ford, who joined the department last year, after most of the text messages were sent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re going to have to absorb a lot of people’s pain,” Wade told them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Including her pain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wade’s son, Malad Baldwin, was 22-years-old when he was\u003ca href=\"https://www.courthousenews.com/cops-will-face-moms-distress-claim-in-sons-beating/\"> a victim of police violence\u003c/a>, she claims. In 2014, he was asleep in Wade’s car parked outside their house when police dragged him from the vehicle and beat him, according to a lawsuit filed against the city and the officers. In the complaint, Wade said she came out of the house to see them striking her son, and that they beat him until he lost consciousness. The suit claims that police slammed Baldwin into the sidewalk, spread his legs and repeatedly struck him there. “They hit him right in between his butt cheeks,” Wade said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antioch police claim Baldwin was drunk and combative. He was charged with resisting arrest, but those charges were dropped. The lawsuit was settled out of court, with officers admitting no wrongdoing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wade says the beating changed her son. He was depressed, riddled with anxiety, unable to hold down a job. That was the first of several incidents between Baldwin and Antioch police. Wade says it was as if they were stalking him, harassing him every where he went.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2020, Baldwin died by suicide. Wade faults Antioch police for her son’s mental trauma, and ultimately for his death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antioch police have not yet responded to requests for comment regarding subsequent interactions with Baldwin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, Wade says, “It feels like my baby died all over again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s because Baldwin was mentioned in the text messages.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>“I knew from the beginning that it was a racist city”\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Officers joked about Baldwin’s claims that they beat him on his backside, and about the department using deadly force. “But we kill more Mexicans than anything else. So Blacks can feel safe,” one officer texted. “Sorry. Reverse that,” he followed up a minute later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those are some of the tamer texts released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You’ll hear people talk about “old Antioch” — which refers to the place it used to be: White, working class, a sundown town, where people of color knew not to be after dark.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But all that has changed. Antioch is now 36% white, 35% Latino, and 20% Black, according to the\u003ca href=\"https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/antiochcitycalifornia/LND110210\"> 2020 census\u003c/a>. The shift happened both gradually and quickly. At first, Black people and other people of color moved here for the reasons everyone else did: bigger houses, better schools, a shot at the suburban American dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11947886\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11947886\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Two Black men, and one woman hold signs at a rally. One sign says: 'Fire & Decertify.' The others says 'We demand accountability.'\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64569_010_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dozens of community members and activists join a rally outside of the Antioch Police Department on April 18, 2023, to protest the racist and homophobic text messages shared among members of the department. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the past decade or so, gentrification and exploding housing costs in cities such as San Francisco and Oakland drove displaced poor people here — especially people of color. As Oakland’s Black population shrank, Antioch’s grew.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This new great migration is happening across America, changing the suburbs that have long been thought of as white space into the most diverse places in the nation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On this Tuesday night, the special meeting of the City Council was narrowly focused on addressing the ballooning scandal resulting from the racist texts, with the council voting to audit the department’s internal affairs division, its hiring and promotional practices, and to perform an equity audit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those all passed easily, but the meeting, like the one the week before, was about more than just policy. People needed to speak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almost 100 people protested in front of the police station ahead of the council meeting, walking a stone’s throw from City Hall.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"antioch"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“Antioch didn’t look like this, but it does now,” said Timothy Manly. “When everybody was fixing their issues in the ’60s, Antioch didn’t think that they’d have to.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the ’60s, Antioch was almost entirely white.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re just reaping what you sowed,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people told stories of their own encounters with Antioch police, others spoke of the experiences of children and loved ones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These individuals that have spoken tonight are victims of police brutality, they are victims of crimes,” Public Defender Ellen McDonnell said when it was her turn at the dais. “The community and our clients have been sounding the alarm about your police department for years and years and years.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shayla Bowers talked about how important it was to name the officers. “Our Black and brown people, as you see in this room, we got names, we got banners, we are public about our deaths in our community,” she said. “We need to be public about these police officers that are doing harm in our community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I knew from the beginning that it was a racist city,” said Gigi Crowder, the executive director of NAMI Contra Costa, an affiliate of the National Alliance on Mental Illness, and an Antioch resident. “But then I believed that there was a possibility for change.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She believed that, she told the council, because it wasn’t just demographics that were shifting — the balance of power was too.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘I’ll bury that N*&*er in my fields’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For a long time the Antioch’s leadership did not reflect its diversifying population. That changed in 2020, with a Black majority emerging on the five-person City Council, including Mayor Thorpe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In 2020, when all I asked for was a community to look at policies to do police reform,” Thorpe reminded the council chambers, “people lost their collective minds.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If they could’ve hung me from the highest tree in Antioch they would have,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A group of pro-police, almost entirely white residents, many affiliated with a private Facebook group called “Back the Blue,” flooded the then-online-only council meetings, pushing back against the new majority, and any suggestions of police reform. They mounted a recall campaign against Thorpe, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ktvu.com/news/recall-of-antioch-mayor-dies-following-allegations-of-fraud\">which failed to gather enough signatures\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11887516/why-was-angelo-quintos-death-ruled-an-accident\">December 2020 death of Angelo Quinto\u003c/a> in the custody of Antioch police, the council voted for police to wear body cameras, a reform many police departments passed over a decade ago, but Antioch had long resisted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one of the released texts, body cameras are mentioned. Discussing an arrest made with the Pittsburg Police Department, whose officers did have cameras, an Antioch officer wrote: “If Pitt didn’t have all those body cams and that was us … we would have f&*ked him up more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another police officer, Devon Wenger, responded, “I agree. That’s why I don’t like body cameras.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11947926\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11947926\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1.jpg\" alt=\"A small group of Black women stand on the sidewalk holding signs and protesting racism among police in Antioch.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64570_012_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kiora Hansen and Della Currie join the protest in Antioch in front of the city’s police department. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In a statement to \u003ca href=\"https://abcnews.go.com/US/city-antioch-police-officers-face-lawsuit-alleged-civil/story?id=98728222\">ABC News\u003c/a>, Wenger denied he was being racist, pointing out that he only sent that one text. “Out of both released reports, the initial 21-page-report and the secondary 14-page report, I just simply said I do not like body cams,” he told them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To put it bluntly, that’s not racist.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wenger also suggested that the investigation into Antioch police may have been “corrupted.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NPR’s requests to speak to the officers named in the DA’s report were either ignored or declined.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mayor Thorpe shows up in the police text messages too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ll buy someone a prime rib dinner at House of prime rib to 40 that mfr during the protest today,” one officer texted, referring to “the potential use of a .40mm less lethal launcher being utilized” on the mayor, the \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23778279/disclosure-report-court-redactions-final.pdf\">DA’s report \u003c/a>explains. A .40mm weapon is a kind of gun that fires hard-foam projectiles. Their use \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-12/protesters-complain-about-excessive-force\">against protesters and for crowd control\u003c/a>, as well as their designation as less lethal, has been criticized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That text was sent in June 2020, during the heart of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/06/05/867060621/being-black-in-america-we-have-a-place-in-this-world-too\">national uprising\u003c/a> over the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/05/27/862956646/george-floyds-death-stokes-call-for-minneapolis-officers-to-be-charged-with-murd\">murder of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer\u003c/a>. Another text referred to Floyd as “the gorilla who died.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The text messages continuously refer to Black people as “gorillas” and “monkeys,” and officers repeatedly texted photos of gorillas to each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A young activist, Shagoofa Khan, prominent in organizing protests in Antioch, including \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11837708/a-hunger-strike-in-antioch-and-what-it-says-about-the-changing-suburbs\">a hunger strike in front of the police station\u003c/a>, was also mentioned in the texts. She “looks like an Arabian nights cum dumpster,” a sergeant wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The same sergeant, Josh Evans, texted in reference to the arrest of a Black suspect, “I’ll bury that N*&*er in my fields.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Four minutes later he texted again. “And yes… it was a hard R on purpose.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘I’m only stopping them cuz they black’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The texts aren’t just filled with racist and sexist vitriol, they also seem to suggest possible civil rights violations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a group chat, one officer asks the others what they are doing. The response from another, “violating civil rights.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Racial profiling was a “modus operandi with respect to these officers,” civil rights lawyer John Burris claimed at a news conference on April 20, announcing a federal lawsuit against the city, the police department, and individual officers on behalf of a growing list of victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They would stop people just because they were Black, they would harass them, they would search them, and ultimately arrest them if they thought they could get away with it,” he alleged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They didn’t want any kind of oral, written, videotape of the confession,” he went on. “They wanted the confession to be such that they could make up the confession and convince their superiors that the person has confessed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said he was also disturbed by text messages that suggested officers took pleasure in using violent force, especially on Black people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris’ clients include those who say they were repeatedly targeted and falsely accused by Antioch police officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Adam Carpenter, one of the plaintiffs, was arrested for possession of a firearm by four of the officers named in the scandal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have been harassed and targeted and railroaded by the Antioch police department for the last 10 years,” Carpenter told a scrum of reporters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11947885\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11947885\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A young woman with a bullhorn leads protesters on the street holding signs.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS64575_022_KQED_AntiochPoliceRacistTextProtest_04182023-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shagoofa Khan leads a rally of dozens of community members from the Antioch Police Department to City Hall on April 18, 2023, to protest the racist and homophobic text messages shared among the department. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>According to the lawsuit, in the year before his arrest he was stopped by the same officers almost 10 times.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carpenter spent 11 months in jail before all charges against him were dropped. The complaint alleges that one of the officers involved in Carpenter’s arrest texted, “I’m only stopping them cuz they black.” It alleges another wrote, “I sometimes just say people gave me a full confession when they didn’t. gets filed easier.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They have basically ruined my life,” Carpenter said. “I’ve not been able to get a job, and I’m a journeyman by trade, a painter.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s been devastating, like living in hell.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others shared similar stories, claiming patterns of harassment, planted evidence, and manufactured confessions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Antioch city attorney as well as current and former police chiefs have not yet responded to requests for comment on the litigation.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘In 2020, when all I asked for was a community to look at policies to do police reform, people lost their collective minds.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Antioch Mayor Lamar Thorpe","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Michael Rains, a former police officer and lawyer who represents some, but not all, of the officers, responded with a brief statement. “I understand this story is newsworthy on a number of fronts,” he wrote, “including, from my perspective, whether the due process and privacy rights of officers were abandoned by the Court and District Attorney.” But he added that he has advised his clients not to speak publicly, and is himself not granting interviews “at the present time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Current Antioch Police Chief Steven Ford, who is Black, came from San Francisco to lead the department a year ago. At the first council meeting after the scandal broke, he said that he is trying not to reform, but to reframe policing there. “We’re going to shift how things are done structurally, how they are done politically, how they are done administratively,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No one can tell yet just how many \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946551/antiochs-racist-police-text-message-scandal-could-mean-dropped-charges-in-other-cases\">criminal cases might hang in the balance \u003c/a>after these revelations. Burris, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ktvu.com/news/congressmen-want-us-attorney-general-to-investigate-antioch-police\">alongside others\u003c/a> including two members of Congress, are calling for the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate the Antioch Police Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carpenter said that in a strange way, he was grateful to read all the texts. At least they confirmed for everyone else what he’d been experiencing for so long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has been the same for Kathryn Wade. Reading the texts may have reopened the wound of her son’s death, but at least, she says, “Everything is out in the open, now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=These+California+police+officers+have+created+a+scandal.+They+sent+racist+texts&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11947876/antioch-police-racist-texting-scandal-confirms-what-many-black-and-brown-residents-have-decried-for-years","authors":["byline_news_11947876"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_19122","news_32679","news_32621","news_24958","news_20081","news_20625","news_28133","news_32002"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11947888","label":"news_253"},"news_11946551":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11946551","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11946551","score":null,"sort":[1681347639000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"antiochs-racist-police-text-message-scandal-could-mean-dropped-charges-in-other-cases","title":"Antioch's Racist Police Text Message Scandal Could Mean Dropped Charges in Some Cases","publishDate":1681347639,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Antioch’s Racist Police Text Message Scandal Could Mean Dropped Charges in Some Cases | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>Editor’s note: This story contains racist language.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Contra Costa County Superior Court Judge David Goldstein will decide by May 19 whether to dismiss gang enhancement charges against four Black men arrested in connection with a shooting in Antioch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorneys for the men had already filed motions to dismiss the charges on the grounds of the California Racial Justice Act, which prohibits racism in criminal prosecutions and sentencing. The argument was bolstered this week by a spiraling racist text message scandal within the Antioch Police Department. Some of the text messages contain references to the four men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The racist texts surfaced during an ongoing investigation by the FBI and Contra Costa County District Attorney Diana Becton into misconduct by police officers in Antioch and Pittsburg, including officers misusing police dogs, falsifying education records to obtain pay bumps and eliciting false confessions. The \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23778279/disclosure-report-court-redactions-final.pdf\">district attorney’s report (PDF)\u003c/a>, which contains racist, misogynistic and violent language and imagery, was obtained by KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eleven members of the Antioch Police Department are on leave after the investigation. At least 14 officers — sergeants, detectives and supervisors — allegedly sent and received racist memes and text messages for four years, according to the report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The revelation arrives on top of \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Latest-Oakland-police-chief-is-out-after-two-days-8310286.php\">numerous racist text scandals that have rocked police departments\u003c/a> and communities across the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our clients are more seriously charged than similarly situated defendants of other races, non-Black defendants,” said Evan Kuluk, deputy public defender with the Alternate Defender Office for Contra Costa County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The case surrounds four alleged members of an East Oakland-based gang who were charged in August 2021 with conspiracy to murder rival gang members and attempted murder in connection with a March 2021 homicide in Antioch.[pullquote size='medium' align='left' citation=\"Evan Kuluk, deputy public defender, Alternate Defender Office for Contra Costa County\"]‘Our clients are more seriously charged than similarly situated defendants of other races, non-Black defendants.’[/pullquote]Attorneys have been in litigation for the last six months over alleged racial disparities in gang charges in homicide cases, Kuluk said. \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/04/11/exclusive-inside-the-antioch-police-departments-secret-racist-texting-group/\">The East Bay Times first reported on the horrific text messages.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 20% of APD’s officers are currently suspended, and the text messages are likely to compromise many more Contra Costa criminal cases.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the texts, officers bragged about falsifying confessions and assaulting Black residents, and rampantly used racist stereotypes about the communities they were sworn to protect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In April 2020, Sgt. Josh Evans texted officer Morteza Amiri, “I’ll bury that n—r in my fields.” The report notes that Amiri laughed at the above comment, and then Evans responded, “And yes… it was a hard R on purpose.”[aside label=\"Related Stories\" tag=\"racist-texts\"]Amiri replied, “haha there’s no accidents with you on that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Why would it take a legislative enactment to get 20 officers to understand that it’s their job to intercede when their fellow officers are abusing, assaulting members of their community, using racial epithets,” said Carmela Caramagno, an attorney who represents one of the defendants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The messages include direct threats against Antioch Mayor Lamar Thorpe, who is Black and Latino. In 2020, John Ramirez sent a text to fellow APD officers saying he would “buy someone a prime rib dinner” if they shot at Thorpe with a rubber-bullet 40 mm launcher at a protest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You can’t say those things unless there’s an institution or a culture that says that’s OK. And so we have to fix that,” Thorpe said in response to the messages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Saturday, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946168/racist-text-messages-lead-antioch-mayor-to-call-for-independent-audit-of-police-department\">Thorpe called for an audit of internal affairs complaints\u003c/a>. The mayor, who said that the audit should include all complaints made against police officers over the last six to eight years, also requested a study of demographic data on arrests and use of force.[pullquote size='medium' align='left' citation=\"Antioch Mayor Lamar Thorpe\"]‘You can’t say those things unless there’s an institution or a culture that says that’s OK. And so we have to fix that.’[/pullquote]The Antioch Police Department did not return a request for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Caramagno said she plans to file a motion to dismiss all the charges against her client.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you look at the text messages, you’ve got at least 20 officers, whether they’re sending texts or receiving texts,” she said. “So far, I’m not aware of a single officer coming forward to call out this behavior, stop the behavior or intercede on the defendant’s behalf. If that’s not egregious governmental conduct, I don’t know what it is.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED reporters Tara Siler and Sara Hossaini contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Editor’s note, April 14:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23778279/disclosure-report-court-redactions-final.pdf\">published the district attorney’s investigative report on April 12 (PDF)\u003c/a> in the interest of providing our audiences with unvarnished access to the content of the racist, misogynistic and violent text messages allegedly sent by members of the Antioch Police Department. KQED has redacted the version of the report we obtained to exclude information also withheld in court records.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Contra Costa County District Attorney’s Office released a heavily censored version of the report on April 13. That version can be viewed \u003ca href=\"https://www.contracosta.ca.gov/DocumentCenter/View/78884/Disclosure-Report-CCCDAO-and-Court-Ordered-Redactions\">here (PDF)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Eleven Antioch police officers are now on leave after an investigation revealed a slew of racist and violent messaging between officers and their superiors.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1681513810,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":916},"headData":{"title":"Antioch's Racist Police Text Message Scandal Could Mean Dropped Charges in Some Cases | KQED","description":"Eleven Antioch police officers are now on leave after an investigation revealed a slew of racist and violent messaging between officers and their superiors.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11946551/antiochs-racist-police-text-message-scandal-could-mean-dropped-charges-in-other-cases","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Editor’s note: This story contains racist language.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Contra Costa County Superior Court Judge David Goldstein will decide by May 19 whether to dismiss gang enhancement charges against four Black men arrested in connection with a shooting in Antioch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorneys for the men had already filed motions to dismiss the charges on the grounds of the California Racial Justice Act, which prohibits racism in criminal prosecutions and sentencing. The argument was bolstered this week by a spiraling racist text message scandal within the Antioch Police Department. Some of the text messages contain references to the four men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The racist texts surfaced during an ongoing investigation by the FBI and Contra Costa County District Attorney Diana Becton into misconduct by police officers in Antioch and Pittsburg, including officers misusing police dogs, falsifying education records to obtain pay bumps and eliciting false confessions. The \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23778279/disclosure-report-court-redactions-final.pdf\">district attorney’s report (PDF)\u003c/a>, which contains racist, misogynistic and violent language and imagery, was obtained by KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eleven members of the Antioch Police Department are on leave after the investigation. At least 14 officers — sergeants, detectives and supervisors — allegedly sent and received racist memes and text messages for four years, according to the report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The revelation arrives on top of \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Latest-Oakland-police-chief-is-out-after-two-days-8310286.php\">numerous racist text scandals that have rocked police departments\u003c/a> and communities across the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our clients are more seriously charged than similarly situated defendants of other races, non-Black defendants,” said Evan Kuluk, deputy public defender with the Alternate Defender Office for Contra Costa County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The case surrounds four alleged members of an East Oakland-based gang who were charged in August 2021 with conspiracy to murder rival gang members and attempted murder in connection with a March 2021 homicide in Antioch.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘Our clients are more seriously charged than similarly situated defendants of other races, non-Black defendants.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"left","citation":"Evan Kuluk, deputy public defender, Alternate Defender Office for Contra Costa County","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Attorneys have been in litigation for the last six months over alleged racial disparities in gang charges in homicide cases, Kuluk said. \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/04/11/exclusive-inside-the-antioch-police-departments-secret-racist-texting-group/\">The East Bay Times first reported on the horrific text messages.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 20% of APD’s officers are currently suspended, and the text messages are likely to compromise many more Contra Costa criminal cases.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the texts, officers bragged about falsifying confessions and assaulting Black residents, and rampantly used racist stereotypes about the communities they were sworn to protect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In April 2020, Sgt. Josh Evans texted officer Morteza Amiri, “I’ll bury that n—r in my fields.” The report notes that Amiri laughed at the above comment, and then Evans responded, “And yes… it was a hard R on purpose.”\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","tag":"racist-texts"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Amiri replied, “haha there’s no accidents with you on that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Why would it take a legislative enactment to get 20 officers to understand that it’s their job to intercede when their fellow officers are abusing, assaulting members of their community, using racial epithets,” said Carmela Caramagno, an attorney who represents one of the defendants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The messages include direct threats against Antioch Mayor Lamar Thorpe, who is Black and Latino. In 2020, John Ramirez sent a text to fellow APD officers saying he would “buy someone a prime rib dinner” if they shot at Thorpe with a rubber-bullet 40 mm launcher at a protest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You can’t say those things unless there’s an institution or a culture that says that’s OK. And so we have to fix that,” Thorpe said in response to the messages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Saturday, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946168/racist-text-messages-lead-antioch-mayor-to-call-for-independent-audit-of-police-department\">Thorpe called for an audit of internal affairs complaints\u003c/a>. The mayor, who said that the audit should include all complaints made against police officers over the last six to eight years, also requested a study of demographic data on arrests and use of force.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘You can’t say those things unless there’s an institution or a culture that says that’s OK. And so we have to fix that.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"left","citation":"Antioch Mayor Lamar Thorpe","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The Antioch Police Department did not return a request for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Caramagno said she plans to file a motion to dismiss all the charges against her client.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you look at the text messages, you’ve got at least 20 officers, whether they’re sending texts or receiving texts,” she said. “So far, I’m not aware of a single officer coming forward to call out this behavior, stop the behavior or intercede on the defendant’s behalf. If that’s not egregious governmental conduct, I don’t know what it is.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED reporters Tara Siler and Sara Hossaini contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Editor’s note, April 14:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23778279/disclosure-report-court-redactions-final.pdf\">published the district attorney’s investigative report on April 12 (PDF)\u003c/a> in the interest of providing our audiences with unvarnished access to the content of the racist, misogynistic and violent text messages allegedly sent by members of the Antioch Police Department. KQED has redacted the version of the report we obtained to exclude information also withheld in court records.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Contra Costa County District Attorney’s Office released a heavily censored version of the report on April 13. That version can be viewed \u003ca href=\"https://www.contracosta.ca.gov/DocumentCenter/View/78884/Disclosure-Report-CCCDAO-and-Court-Ordered-Redactions\">here (PDF)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11946551/antiochs-racist-police-text-message-scandal-could-mean-dropped-charges-in-other-cases","authors":["11840"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_19122","news_32621","news_17725","news_30230","news_20625","news_19216","news_32002"],"featImg":"news_11946566","label":"news"},"news_11946168":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11946168","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11946168","score":null,"sort":[1681166909000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"racist-text-messages-lead-antioch-mayor-to-call-for-independent-audit-of-police-department","title":"Racist Text Messages Lead Antioch Mayor to Call for Independent Audit of Police Department","publishDate":1681166909,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Racist Text Messages Lead Antioch Mayor to Call for Independent Audit of Police Department | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>The mayor of Antioch is calling for an independent audit of the internal affairs process of the city’s police department, after a judge revealed the names of 17 Antioch police officers who are alleged to have sent racist text messages to each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mayor Lamar Thorpe said Saturday afternoon that the audit should include all complaints made against police officers over the last six to eight years. He also called for a complete review of any complaints made that are beyond the statute of limitations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The culture at the Antioch Police Department is a problem, and has long been a huge legal and financial liability for the city, which is on full display today,” Thorpe said in a statement. “The culture of the department requires further exploration, including how the hell all of this alleged misconduct could go on for so long without anyone on our command staff noticing, from lieutenant on to chief.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Antioch Mayor Lamar Thorpe\"]‘At this point, I don’t know how we avoid federal oversight, just given where we are at right now’[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The police officers identified Friday by Contra Costa County Superior Court Judge Clare Maier included the president of the city’s police union. Antioch Police Chief Steven Ford declined to comment on Thorpe’s statements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The texts surfaced as part of an ongoing investigation by the FBI into police officers in Antioch and Pittsburg, for alleged crimes and misconduct including the misuse of police dogs, falsifying education records to obtain pay bumps, and eliciting false confessions. Some of the officers were already known to be under investigation by the FBI, but Friday’s revelation increased the scope of officers known to have participated in racist text message conversations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the East Bay Times, \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/04/07/judge-names-17-antioch-cops-who-allegedly-sent-racist-text-messages-memes/\">Judge Maier deemed the nature of the text messages to be so offensive that they could provoke more racial hostility\u003c/a>. However, she ruled that the texts should not be kept confidential.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The surfacing of the messages could also affect the outcome of active criminal cases. Evan Kuluk, deputy public defender with the Alternate Defender Office in Contra Costa County, is representing one of four co-defendants charged with homicide in an allegedly gang-related shooting that took place in March of 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Based on Judge Maier’s ruling Friday, we know that the lead investigating detective, as well as the detective who was presented at preliminary hearing as the gang expert, are both involved in sending these texts,” said Kuluk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the officers’ texts were sent in the course of a wiretap operation during which officers listened in on the defendant’s calls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kuluk says that if an officer uses racist language or exhibits racist behavior toward a defendant, “it is pretty much uncontroverted that this would be a violation of the California Racial Justice Act. It seems clear from what we have learned that these text messages will show exactly that racial animus towards the defendants in this case.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/california-legislature-passes-racial-justice-package-affecting-death-penalty-practices\">California Racial Justice Act\u003c/a> — passed in 2020 and expanded in 2022 — prohibits racism in criminal prosecutions and sentencing. If a case is found to involve violations of the act, judges can downgrade criminal charges or dismiss them entirely. According to Kuluk, in his case, “it’s not so much a question of whether the Racial Justice Act has been violated, but what remedy the judge will determine is appropriate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked about the prospect of a federal monitor overseeing the Antioch Police Department, Thorpe said, “At this point, I don’t know how we avoid federal oversight, just given where we are at right now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The mayor of Antioch is calling for an independent audit of the internal affairs process of the city’s police department, after a judge revealed the names of 17 Antioch police officers who are alleged to have sent racist text messages to each other.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1681246248,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":635},"headData":{"title":"Racist Text Messages Lead Antioch Mayor to Call for Independent Audit of Police Department | KQED","description":"The mayor of Antioch is calling for an independent audit of the internal affairs process of the city’s police department, after a judge revealed the names of 17 Antioch police officers who are alleged to have sent racist text messages to each other.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11946168/racist-text-messages-lead-antioch-mayor-to-call-for-independent-audit-of-police-department","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The mayor of Antioch is calling for an independent audit of the internal affairs process of the city’s police department, after a judge revealed the names of 17 Antioch police officers who are alleged to have sent racist text messages to each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mayor Lamar Thorpe said Saturday afternoon that the audit should include all complaints made against police officers over the last six to eight years. He also called for a complete review of any complaints made that are beyond the statute of limitations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The culture at the Antioch Police Department is a problem, and has long been a huge legal and financial liability for the city, which is on full display today,” Thorpe said in a statement. “The culture of the department requires further exploration, including how the hell all of this alleged misconduct could go on for so long without anyone on our command staff noticing, from lieutenant on to chief.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘At this point, I don’t know how we avoid federal oversight, just given where we are at right now’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Antioch Mayor Lamar Thorpe","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The police officers identified Friday by Contra Costa County Superior Court Judge Clare Maier included the president of the city’s police union. Antioch Police Chief Steven Ford declined to comment on Thorpe’s statements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The texts surfaced as part of an ongoing investigation by the FBI into police officers in Antioch and Pittsburg, for alleged crimes and misconduct including the misuse of police dogs, falsifying education records to obtain pay bumps, and eliciting false confessions. Some of the officers were already known to be under investigation by the FBI, but Friday’s revelation increased the scope of officers known to have participated in racist text message conversations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the East Bay Times, \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/04/07/judge-names-17-antioch-cops-who-allegedly-sent-racist-text-messages-memes/\">Judge Maier deemed the nature of the text messages to be so offensive that they could provoke more racial hostility\u003c/a>. However, she ruled that the texts should not be kept confidential.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The surfacing of the messages could also affect the outcome of active criminal cases. Evan Kuluk, deputy public defender with the Alternate Defender Office in Contra Costa County, is representing one of four co-defendants charged with homicide in an allegedly gang-related shooting that took place in March of 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Based on Judge Maier’s ruling Friday, we know that the lead investigating detective, as well as the detective who was presented at preliminary hearing as the gang expert, are both involved in sending these texts,” said Kuluk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the officers’ texts were sent in the course of a wiretap operation during which officers listened in on the defendant’s calls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kuluk says that if an officer uses racist language or exhibits racist behavior toward a defendant, “it is pretty much uncontroverted that this would be a violation of the California Racial Justice Act. It seems clear from what we have learned that these text messages will show exactly that racial animus towards the defendants in this case.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/california-legislature-passes-racial-justice-package-affecting-death-penalty-practices\">California Racial Justice Act\u003c/a> — passed in 2020 and expanded in 2022 — prohibits racism in criminal prosecutions and sentencing. If a case is found to involve violations of the act, judges can downgrade criminal charges or dismiss them entirely. According to Kuluk, in his case, “it’s not so much a question of whether the Racial Justice Act has been violated, but what remedy the judge will determine is appropriate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked about the prospect of a federal monitor overseeing the Antioch Police Department, Thorpe said, “At this point, I don’t know how we avoid federal oversight, just given where we are at right now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11946168/racist-text-messages-lead-antioch-mayor-to-call-for-independent-audit-of-police-department","authors":["11785"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_19122","news_32621","news_17725","news_30230","news_20625","news_19216","news_32002"],"featImg":"news_11946252","label":"news"},"news_11946026":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11946026","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11946026","score":null,"sort":[1680957017000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"one-month-after-school-stabbing-santa-rosa-students-parents-and-teachers-see-different-solutions-to-safety","title":"One Month After School Stabbing, Santa Rosa Students, Parents and Teachers See Different Solutions to Safety","publishDate":1680957017,"format":"standard","headTitle":"One Month After School Stabbing, Santa Rosa Students, Parents and Teachers See Different Solutions to Safety | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Santa Rosa students, parents and teachers remain torn on solutions for making their schools safer. It has now been more than a month since the \u003ca href=\"https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/santa-rosa-student-16-fatally-stabbed-in-montgomery-high-school-classroom/\">fatal stabbing in an art classroom at Santa Rosa’s Montgomery High School\u003c/a>, and differing approaches to police presence and overall supervision are being heard in school board meetings, student organizing groups and a new school safety advisory group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While many parents and teachers look toward reinstating safety resource officers (SROs), students are emphasizing a need for expanded mental health resources, deescalation training and increased funding for restorative justice programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SROs — armed officers with the Santa Rosa Police Department who patrolled high school campuses and had the power to make arrests — were removed from all campuses by the Santa Rosa City Schools District in 2020, in the wake of nationwide protests over the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t think that [SROs] are the best method of creating a safer campus,” Montgomery junior Vianna Laham told KQED. “I would rather there be more therapists and campus supervisors because there already isn’t enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On March 1, Montgomery freshman Daniel Pulido, 15, stabbed 16-year-old junior Jayden Pienta during a classroom fight. Pulido, who has been in juvenile detention since the killing, was expected to be arraigned on charges of voluntary manslaughter on March 30, but that hearing has been postponed until May 4.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rest of the school week after the incident was canceled, and the following week \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11942769/school-safety-talks-planned-day-after-santa-rosa-student-walkout-over-fatal-campus-stabbing\">hundreds of students participated in walkouts, marches and demands for action\u003c/a> at every major high school within the district. Hundreds of students, parents and staff \u003ca href=\"https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/santa-rosa-students-parents-school-staff-plead-for-stronger-response-to-s/\">also came together at an evening listening session\u003c/a>, where they pleaded with district officials to do more to safeguard schools against violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11942769 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/03/RS63500__DSC4814-qut-1020x766.jpg']North Bay Organizing Project organizer Joy Ayodele has been working with students from the start to help them organize walkouts and solidify their demands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Rather than investment in SROs, they were thinking that they need further investment in mental health services on campus,” said Ayodele, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.sonomamag.com/meet-18-year-old-community-organizer-joy-ayodele/\">organized her first demonstration in 2020 in the wake of George Floyd’s murder, when she was just 18\u003c/a>. “Not just the typical school counselors that they have but actual mental health professionals that are able to offer them that assistance on campus.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Each high school in the district has what Superintendent Anna Trunnell calls a “multitiered system of support” counselor, a college and career counselor, one school-based therapist and one mental health counselor specifically to help with academic anxieties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laham says to her knowledge there is only one permanent therapist for Montgomery High’s campus of 1,600 students.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘I am fully in support of police on campus’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DCyxqmDueU\">board meeting March 29\u003c/a>, many parents showed their support for officers on campus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I am fully in support of police on campus and embedded in the school setting starting in kindergarten,” said parent Sarah Jenkins during public comments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Montgomery High teacher Margret Buhn told the school board about how a student in one of her classes was worried they were going to get jumped by their fellow classmates two weeks after the stabbing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Buhn and the student’s family wrote emails to the administration and superintendent Trunnell, yet said they were told little could be done. On March 27, the student was attacked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As a teacher, I want to protect my students, and I tried to do just that,” Buhn said at the board meeting. “As teachers collectively, we feel desperation to address this. I asked in my email last night if we had learned anything from the tragedy that had just happened. In light of this incident, I feel we have not learned enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘I’m not hearing students root for SROs’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Santa Rosa students district-wide share a similar sentiment, and in their \u003ca href=\"https://docs.google.com/document/d/11VOsXzwV5U-ivt1ebuWXftIXBcg7aWDc1HPs578vTXY/edit?pli=1\">list of demands\u003c/a> say their district has failed them. But Ayodele says the students aren’t asking for quick fixes or police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not hearing students root for SROs or anything along those lines. I’m hearing them present actual, you know, initiatives that they want to support,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Ayodele, students at Montgomery want more funding for their restorative justice programs. She says these programs are underfunded and students are on waitlists district-wide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If I had the power, I would add trained [administrators] to the campus who have the capability to assess a situation quickly or prevent it,” Montgomery sophomore Lyla Snyder told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946067\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11946067\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A group of students who appear to be high school aged stand together outside with trees in the background and one visible sign on white paper with red ink, reading 'we will get jutice'\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1441\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut-1020x766.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut-1536x1153.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students participate in a walkout at Montgomery High School in Santa Rosa on March 6, in the wake of the fatal March 1 stabbing of 16-year-old Jayden Pienta in an art classroom. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the weeks following the stabbing, Superintendent Trunnell issued a series of action items, including temporary counseling services and the introduction of a safety advisory group, which held its first meeting on Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Safety Advisory Roundtable (SART), a 30-member body made up of students, parents, teachers, school staff and community members and facilitated by Trunnell, will discuss solutions and action related to the four pillars the district lists on its website: safety and security, mental health and counseling, communication and transparency, and facilities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SROs will be a pressing item on the group’s agenda, and Trunnell said decisions made about their potential return will be up to the committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We will not see SROs come back in the way they were previously,” Trunnell told KQED. “I believe that from this work, we will more than likely place a recommendation before the school board on a type of position more focused on safety and security.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trunnell is still unsure about what that will look like, but said SART is working toward making recommendations ahead of school board meetings, with the next one on April 12.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A new school safety advisory group will help decide whether police should return to campuses. Students have instead been calling for expanded mental health resources, deescalation training and increased funding for restorative justice programs.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1695333347,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":1032},"headData":{"title":"One Month After School Stabbing, Santa Rosa Students, Parents and Teachers See Different Solutions to Safety | KQED","description":"A new school safety advisory group will help decide whether police should return to campuses. Students have instead been calling for expanded mental health resources, deescalation training and increased funding for restorative justice programs.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11946026/one-month-after-school-stabbing-santa-rosa-students-parents-and-teachers-see-different-solutions-to-safety","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Santa Rosa students, parents and teachers remain torn on solutions for making their schools safer. It has now been more than a month since the \u003ca href=\"https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/santa-rosa-student-16-fatally-stabbed-in-montgomery-high-school-classroom/\">fatal stabbing in an art classroom at Santa Rosa’s Montgomery High School\u003c/a>, and differing approaches to police presence and overall supervision are being heard in school board meetings, student organizing groups and a new school safety advisory group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While many parents and teachers look toward reinstating safety resource officers (SROs), students are emphasizing a need for expanded mental health resources, deescalation training and increased funding for restorative justice programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SROs — armed officers with the Santa Rosa Police Department who patrolled high school campuses and had the power to make arrests — were removed from all campuses by the Santa Rosa City Schools District in 2020, in the wake of nationwide protests over the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t think that [SROs] are the best method of creating a safer campus,” Montgomery junior Vianna Laham told KQED. “I would rather there be more therapists and campus supervisors because there already isn’t enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On March 1, Montgomery freshman Daniel Pulido, 15, stabbed 16-year-old junior Jayden Pienta during a classroom fight. Pulido, who has been in juvenile detention since the killing, was expected to be arraigned on charges of voluntary manslaughter on March 30, but that hearing has been postponed until May 4.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rest of the school week after the incident was canceled, and the following week \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11942769/school-safety-talks-planned-day-after-santa-rosa-student-walkout-over-fatal-campus-stabbing\">hundreds of students participated in walkouts, marches and demands for action\u003c/a> at every major high school within the district. Hundreds of students, parents and staff \u003ca href=\"https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/santa-rosa-students-parents-school-staff-plead-for-stronger-response-to-s/\">also came together at an evening listening session\u003c/a>, where they pleaded with district officials to do more to safeguard schools against violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11942769","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/03/RS63500__DSC4814-qut-1020x766.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>North Bay Organizing Project organizer Joy Ayodele has been working with students from the start to help them organize walkouts and solidify their demands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Rather than investment in SROs, they were thinking that they need further investment in mental health services on campus,” said Ayodele, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.sonomamag.com/meet-18-year-old-community-organizer-joy-ayodele/\">organized her first demonstration in 2020 in the wake of George Floyd’s murder, when she was just 18\u003c/a>. “Not just the typical school counselors that they have but actual mental health professionals that are able to offer them that assistance on campus.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Each high school in the district has what Superintendent Anna Trunnell calls a “multitiered system of support” counselor, a college and career counselor, one school-based therapist and one mental health counselor specifically to help with academic anxieties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laham says to her knowledge there is only one permanent therapist for Montgomery High’s campus of 1,600 students.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘I am fully in support of police on campus’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DCyxqmDueU\">board meeting March 29\u003c/a>, many parents showed their support for officers on campus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I am fully in support of police on campus and embedded in the school setting starting in kindergarten,” said parent Sarah Jenkins during public comments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Montgomery High teacher Margret Buhn told the school board about how a student in one of her classes was worried they were going to get jumped by their fellow classmates two weeks after the stabbing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Buhn and the student’s family wrote emails to the administration and superintendent Trunnell, yet said they were told little could be done. On March 27, the student was attacked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As a teacher, I want to protect my students, and I tried to do just that,” Buhn said at the board meeting. “As teachers collectively, we feel desperation to address this. I asked in my email last night if we had learned anything from the tragedy that had just happened. In light of this incident, I feel we have not learned enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘I’m not hearing students root for SROs’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Santa Rosa students district-wide share a similar sentiment, and in their \u003ca href=\"https://docs.google.com/document/d/11VOsXzwV5U-ivt1ebuWXftIXBcg7aWDc1HPs578vTXY/edit?pli=1\">list of demands\u003c/a> say their district has failed them. But Ayodele says the students aren’t asking for quick fixes or police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not hearing students root for SROs or anything along those lines. I’m hearing them present actual, you know, initiatives that they want to support,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Ayodele, students at Montgomery want more funding for their restorative justice programs. She says these programs are underfunded and students are on waitlists district-wide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If I had the power, I would add trained [administrators] to the campus who have the capability to assess a situation quickly or prevent it,” Montgomery sophomore Lyla Snyder told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946067\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11946067\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A group of students who appear to be high school aged stand together outside with trees in the background and one visible sign on white paper with red ink, reading 'we will get jutice'\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1441\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut-1020x766.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/RS63508__DSC4787-qut-1536x1153.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students participate in a walkout at Montgomery High School in Santa Rosa on March 6, in the wake of the fatal March 1 stabbing of 16-year-old Jayden Pienta in an art classroom. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the weeks following the stabbing, Superintendent Trunnell issued a series of action items, including temporary counseling services and the introduction of a safety advisory group, which held its first meeting on Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Safety Advisory Roundtable (SART), a 30-member body made up of students, parents, teachers, school staff and community members and facilitated by Trunnell, will discuss solutions and action related to the four pillars the district lists on its website: safety and security, mental health and counseling, communication and transparency, and facilities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SROs will be a pressing item on the group’s agenda, and Trunnell said decisions made about their potential return will be up to the committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We will not see SROs come back in the way they were previously,” Trunnell told KQED. “I believe that from this work, we will more than likely place a recommendation before the school board on a type of position more focused on safety and security.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trunnell is still unsure about what that will look like, but said SART is working toward making recommendations ahead of school board meetings, with the next one on April 12.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11946026/one-month-after-school-stabbing-santa-rosa-students-parents-and-teachers-see-different-solutions-to-safety","authors":["11880"],"categories":["news_18540","news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_27626","news_32471","news_20625","news_474","news_32470","news_22602"],"featImg":"news_11946063","label":"news"},"news_11941976":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11941976","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11941976","score":null,"sort":[1677589272000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"reparations-are-also-about-black-safety-and-that-means-taking-on-policing","title":"Reparations Are Also About Black Safety — and That Means Taking on Policing","publishDate":1677589272,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>[dropcap]T[/dropcap]yre Nichols was mercilessly beaten by Memphis police officers after a traffic stop last month — and it was his fault. That’s if you believe the five officers accused of killing Nichols, of course.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s the story officers, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/02/17/1157756023/memphis-tyre-nichols-police-officers-court-charges\">who pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder charges on Feb. 17\u003c/a>, wanted the public to buy: Nichols, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.sacbee.com/news/equity-lab/article272243108.html\">lived in Sacramento\u003c/a> before moving to Memphis, was driving recklessly, a misdemeanor in Tennessee, before he was pulled over for a routine traffic stop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After being forcibly removed from his car at gunpoint, he fled. The officers, then-part of an elite crime suppression unit, chased Nichols. They punched and kicked Nichols and struck him with a baton, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/us/tyre-nichols-arrest-videos.html\">justifying the violence in a false police report\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The release of police and traffic camera footage revealed the glaring disparity that often exists between the police narrative and what actually occurs. Nichols, a 29-year-old Black man, wasn't violent or aggressive, and he didn't reach for an officer’s gun, as the initial report falsely asserted. So why did Nichols flee? In my bones, I know he was running to his mother's house in search of what many police officers decline to provide Black people: safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The safety of Black people in America has been imperiled for four centuries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The safety of Black people in America is at the core of the California Reparations Task Force.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I wish more Californians were aware of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/reparations\">the first statewide body to consider reparations for Black people\u003c/a>. The task force has presented an irrefutable examination of how systemic racism was woven into the fabric of America and California. I can think of at least 1,619 reasons why the work is largely unnoticed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Think about it: After the unpaid workforce of millions was emancipated, laws were enacted to restrict economic and social mobility. The emancipated population was terrorized by white supremacists intent on preserving the racial hierarchy as promises of land, opportunity and security were abandoned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn't safe for Black people to look white people in the eye. It wasn't safe for Black people to vote. It wasn't safe for Black people to be in some towns after dark. It wasn't safe for Black people to prosper. To maintain institutionalized social order, first it was the slave patrols, and now it’s the police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Reparations in California\" link1=\"https://www.kqed.org/reparations,Explore why California launched the first-in-the-nation task force to study reparations for Black people\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/2022/02/RiCLandingPageGraphic-1020x574.png\"]Racial terror swept this country for decades after emancipation as white mobs — some dressed in robes and hoods, some flashing badges and guns — destroyed homes, towns and lives. The racial segregation enforced in the South initiated the migration of Black people to states like California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For more than a year, the reparations task force, \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/task-force-notice-agenda-03032023-03042023.pdf\">which meets Friday and Saturday in Sacramento (PDF)\u003c/a>, has documented the unsavory truth about Black history — a history that is more than the cherry-picked sections of Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream speech. Honoring Black history must include the centuries of state-sanctioned violence that America willfully ignores.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Black history is American history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After I watched the footage of Nichols being brutalized by the officers who immediately began constructing a false narrative as they gasped for air, I thought about Rodney King, the Black man who was savagely beaten by Los Angeles Police Department officers in 1991, an assault recorded by an amateur videographer. The grainy footage of King writhing in pain as officers swung batons as if they were chopping sugarcane will stick in my mind forever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I thought about Delphine Allen, the Black man who, while walking in West Oakland in 2000, was kidnapped and assaulted by rogue Oakland police officers. His feet were struck with a baton before he was driven to a secluded highway overpass, where the beating continued.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Allen was the lead plaintiff in a civil rights lawsuit that alleged \u003ca href=\"https://clearinghouse.net/case/5541/\">misconduct and excessive use of force by four Oakland police officers\u003c/a> — and a lack of discipline and accountability for officer misconduct within the Oakland Police Department. More than 100 residents alleged mistreatment — brutal beatings, unlawful detention, intimidation — in the lawsuit that led to the federal monitoring of the OPD.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The quartet of officers known as “The Riders” rampaged West Oakland, an area once patrolled by the Black Panthers \u003cem>because of\u003c/em> police brutality, after sunset. An enduring vestige of enslavement is the over-policing of Black neighborhoods. As part of the $11 million settlement with the plaintiffs in 2003, the police department was forced to comply with court-ordered reforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almost two decades after the settlement, \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2023/02/15/oakland-police-chief-leronne-armstrong-fired-mayor-sheng-thao/\">LeRonne Armstrong, OPD’s police chief, was fired on Feb. 15\u003c/a>, in part, because of an independent report that detailed the police department’s mishandling of officer misconduct — the kind of violation that led to federal monitoring in the first place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11942048\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11942048\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A bald Black man in a blue police uniform stands outside in the sun holding a microphone and squinting\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1278\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut-1536x1022.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Former Oakland Police Chief LeRonne Armstrong, pictured at a 2021 NAACP event paying tribute to George Floyd, was fired by Mayor Sheng Thao on Feb. 15. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Last month, I interviewed Darwin BondGraham and Ali Winston, co-authors of \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2023/01/13/oakland-police-darwin-bondgraham-riders-ali-winston-book-opd/\">\u003cem>The Riders Come Out at Night: Brutality, Corruption, and Cover-Up in Oakland\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, as part of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/archive/video/uncovering-brutality-cover-and-corruption-oakland\">Commonwealth Club of California event\u003c/a>. In the book, BondGraham, news editor for The Oaklandside, and Winston, an independent journalist, present a riveting and profound portrait of out-of-control policing in Oakland. \u003cem>The Riders Come Out at Night\u003c/em> is a compelling argument for why the police can’t be trusted with reforming the institution of policing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2016, OPD cycled through three police chiefs in eight days, an infamous stretch initiated by another misconduct scandal, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11080955/alameda-county-da-charges-7-cops-with-sexually-exploiting-teenager\">sex-trafficking of a minor by Oakland police officers and officers from multiple Bay Area jurisdictions\u003c/a>. The same year, two officers were suspended because of a racist text scandal. In 2021, nine officers were disciplined for racist and sexist social media posts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s what led to the firing of Armstrong, who is from West Oakland and became chief two years ago this month: In 2021, an OPD sergeant driving a police vehicle hit a parked car in the garage of his San Francisco apartment building. The driver, Sgt. Michael Chung, who was instrumental in OPD’s response to crime in Chinatown, didn't report the accident. In 2022, Chung fired his gun in an elevator at police headquarters. Again, no report was filed. An investigation by a law firm found that an OPD captain had Chung’s violations reduced so his punishment was less severe. According to the investigators with Clarence Dyer & Cohen LLP, Armstrong was aware of the light discipline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Jan. 18, the federal judge monitoring OPD's reform efforts made the report by Clarence Dyer & Cohen public. The investigation “revealed systemic failures far larger and more serious than the actions of one police officer,” the \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/OPD-IA-cases-NSA-compliance-report.pdf\">blistering report (PDF)\u003c/a> concluded. The next day Armstrong was placed on paid administrative leave.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's when he should've copped a plea and said, “My bad, y’all.” Instead, he campaigned for his job at a rally on the steps of Oakland City Hall. The NAACP held another rally on Feb. 20. I called Terry Wiley, the former Alameda County prosecutor who is handling press around the firing for the NAACP. Wiley told me that Armstrong had made the kind of progress people of color want to see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11942080\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11942080\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A profile shot of a group of roughly 10 people, most of them Black, listening while a woman in the middle claps her hands\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1291\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut-800x538.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut-1020x686.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut-1536x1033.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Community members listen to speakers during a rally in support of terminated Oakland police Chief LeRonne Armstrong at City Hall on Feb. 16. \u003ccite>(Jane Tyska/Digital First Media/East Bay Times via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“When you look at the balance of all of the positives he has brought to the department as the chief, the question becomes, was this incident such that he should be terminated?” said Wiley, who lost the November election for district attorney to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11940920/when-da-boudin-investigated-police-killings-arrests-slowed-that-may-not-happen-with-da-pamela-price\">progressive Pamela Price\u003c/a>. “Our conclusion was that the mayor went too far on this, and that there should have been much more contemplation about the decision.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement released by Sam Singer, a crisis manager, shortly after Armstrong was terminated, Armstrong referred to himself as a “loyal and effective reformer.” But reform isn’t possible without zero tolerance for misconduct, and the failure to issue appropriate discipline is inexcusable, especially for someone who pledges loyalty to reform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The police are incapable of policing the police. Just look around the Bay Area. In Vallejo, a city that blithely dodges police scrutiny, \u003ca href=\"https://openvallejo.org/2023/02/05/vallejo-destroyed-evidence-of-police-killings/\">the city destroyed evidence in multiple police killings\u003c/a> despite being under investigation by the state attorney general, according to reporting by Open Vallejo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/09/10/exclusive-fbi-criminal-investigation-of-antioch-pittsburg-cops-grows-grand-jury-convening/\">Officers in Antioch and Pittsburg are under investigation by the FBI and the Contra Costa district attorney\u003c/a> for fraud and civil rights violations, and federal prosecutors have already dismissed more than a dozen cases that hinged on officer testimony, according to \u003cem>The Mercury News\u003c/em>. And in Berkeley, the city’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11932420/berkeley-postpones-hiring-of-new-police-chief-amid-controversy-over-another-officers-alleged-racist-texts\">former police union head allegedly sent racist, anti-unhoused text messages\u003c/a> to officers while pushing for more arrests, as multiple newsrooms, including KQED, reported in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Wesley Lowery, journalist, author and contributing editor to The Marshall Project\"]'What type of resources are we pouring into communities if our aim is to cut down on crime? Is the resource we're sending in a bunch of armed guys told to rough people up?'[/pullquote]In January, the California Racial and Identity Profiling Advisory Board published a report that found that \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/ripa-board-report-2023.pdf\">police searched Black people at twice the rate of white people in 2021 (PDF)\u003c/a>. And get this: Officers were more likely to find contraband on white people than Black and Latino people, according to the report, which also found that police were twice as likely to use force against Black people than white people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2021, \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/data-reveals-racial-disparities-police-stops-bay-17763091.php\">Black people were six times as likely to be stopped in Oakland than white people\u003c/a>, according to the\u003cem> San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em>’s analysis of the police-stop data recently released by the state attorney general.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Francisco, Black people were at least five times as likely to be stopped than white people. This is a city where officers accused of, among other infractions, sexual misconduct, domestic violence and sharing racist and antisemitic texts work desk duty in a windowless room while raking in millions collectively, according to the San Francisco Standard’s \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/criminal-justice/cop-used-drugs-had-car-sex-with-a-teenager-then-sf-spent-1-2m-to-keep-him-on-desk-duty/\">three-part series on police accountability\u003c/a>. This is the city where \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/jenkins-police-investigate-17782463.php\">the law-and-order district attorney gutted the unit that investigates police misconduct and violence\u003c/a>, according to reporting by the \u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101892172/wesley-lowery-on-americas-elusive-racial-reckoning\">episode of Forum\u003c/a>, Wesley Lowery, a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter, talked with host Mina Kim about “\u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/tyre-nichols-death-memphis-george-floyd-police-reform/672986/\">Why There Was No Racial Reckoning\u003c/a>,” a piece he wrote for \u003cem>The Atlantic\u003c/em>. George Floyd’s murder by police in Minneapolis in May 2020 sparked nationwide uprisings not seen since 1967. Floyd’s death was supposed to also spark a reimagining of policing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That, of course, hasn’t happened. Instead, the backlash against protests that demanded more funding for social services has empowered cities to continue criminalizing poverty. Posturing by police and politicians isn't going to provide relief for families who have been living in poverty for generations. The police are trained in coercion, which renders their skills insufficient to respond to the circumstances which allow criminal activity to flourish: disinvestment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What type of resources are we pouring into those communities if our aim is to cut down on crime?” Lowery said on Forum. “Is the resource we're sending in a bunch of armed guys told to rough people up?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='Reparations Coverage' tag='california-reparations']In July, the task force will deliver reparations recommendations, which are expected to include direct payments to eligible Black Californians. But reparations are more than compensation. Last summer, the task force \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/ab3121-interim-report-preliminary-recommendations-2022.pdf\">released a preliminary report (PDF)\u003c/a> with recommendations to address, among other things, the unjust legal system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The police are the gatekeepers of that system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The preliminary report suggests reducing “the scope of law enforcement jurisdiction within the public safety system” and shifting “more funding for prevention and mental health care.” The report also calls for the elimination of “discriminatory policing and particularly killings, use of force and racial profiling” of Black people; the elimination of racial disparities in police stops; and the elimination of over-policing of predominantly Black communities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The task force could pave the road to viable racial equity in America. But to get to that place, it’s guaranteed to be a bumpy journey. Make sure you buckle up for safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"California's reparations task force could pave the road to viable racial equity in America. But when police can't be trusted to reform policing — with the ouster of OPD Chief LeRonne Armstrong and the killing of Tyre Nichols as just the latest examples — it's going to be a bumpy journey.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1677551258,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":38,"wordCount":2176},"headData":{"title":"Reparations Are Also About Black Safety — and That Means Taking on Policing | KQED","description":"California's reparations task force could pave the road to viable racial equity in America. But when police can't be trusted to reform policing — with the ouster of OPD Chief LeRonne Armstrong and the killing of Tyre Nichols as just the latest examples — it's going to be a bumpy journey.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"source":"Commentary","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11941976/reparations-are-also-about-black-safety-and-that-means-taking-on-policing","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">T\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>yre Nichols was mercilessly beaten by Memphis police officers after a traffic stop last month — and it was his fault. That’s if you believe the five officers accused of killing Nichols, of course.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s the story officers, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/02/17/1157756023/memphis-tyre-nichols-police-officers-court-charges\">who pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder charges on Feb. 17\u003c/a>, wanted the public to buy: Nichols, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.sacbee.com/news/equity-lab/article272243108.html\">lived in Sacramento\u003c/a> before moving to Memphis, was driving recklessly, a misdemeanor in Tennessee, before he was pulled over for a routine traffic stop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After being forcibly removed from his car at gunpoint, he fled. The officers, then-part of an elite crime suppression unit, chased Nichols. They punched and kicked Nichols and struck him with a baton, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/us/tyre-nichols-arrest-videos.html\">justifying the violence in a false police report\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The release of police and traffic camera footage revealed the glaring disparity that often exists between the police narrative and what actually occurs. Nichols, a 29-year-old Black man, wasn't violent or aggressive, and he didn't reach for an officer’s gun, as the initial report falsely asserted. So why did Nichols flee? In my bones, I know he was running to his mother's house in search of what many police officers decline to provide Black people: safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The safety of Black people in America has been imperiled for four centuries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The safety of Black people in America is at the core of the California Reparations Task Force.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I wish more Californians were aware of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/reparations\">the first statewide body to consider reparations for Black people\u003c/a>. The task force has presented an irrefutable examination of how systemic racism was woven into the fabric of America and California. I can think of at least 1,619 reasons why the work is largely unnoticed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Think about it: After the unpaid workforce of millions was emancipated, laws were enacted to restrict economic and social mobility. The emancipated population was terrorized by white supremacists intent on preserving the racial hierarchy as promises of land, opportunity and security were abandoned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn't safe for Black people to look white people in the eye. It wasn't safe for Black people to vote. It wasn't safe for Black people to be in some towns after dark. It wasn't safe for Black people to prosper. To maintain institutionalized social order, first it was the slave patrols, and now it’s the police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Reparations in California ","link1":"https://www.kqed.org/reparations,Explore why California launched the first-in-the-nation task force to study reparations for Black people","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/2022/02/RiCLandingPageGraphic-1020x574.png"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Racial terror swept this country for decades after emancipation as white mobs — some dressed in robes and hoods, some flashing badges and guns — destroyed homes, towns and lives. The racial segregation enforced in the South initiated the migration of Black people to states like California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For more than a year, the reparations task force, \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/task-force-notice-agenda-03032023-03042023.pdf\">which meets Friday and Saturday in Sacramento (PDF)\u003c/a>, has documented the unsavory truth about Black history — a history that is more than the cherry-picked sections of Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream speech. Honoring Black history must include the centuries of state-sanctioned violence that America willfully ignores.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Black history is American history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After I watched the footage of Nichols being brutalized by the officers who immediately began constructing a false narrative as they gasped for air, I thought about Rodney King, the Black man who was savagely beaten by Los Angeles Police Department officers in 1991, an assault recorded by an amateur videographer. The grainy footage of King writhing in pain as officers swung batons as if they were chopping sugarcane will stick in my mind forever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I thought about Delphine Allen, the Black man who, while walking in West Oakland in 2000, was kidnapped and assaulted by rogue Oakland police officers. His feet were struck with a baton before he was driven to a secluded highway overpass, where the beating continued.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Allen was the lead plaintiff in a civil rights lawsuit that alleged \u003ca href=\"https://clearinghouse.net/case/5541/\">misconduct and excessive use of force by four Oakland police officers\u003c/a> — and a lack of discipline and accountability for officer misconduct within the Oakland Police Department. More than 100 residents alleged mistreatment — brutal beatings, unlawful detention, intimidation — in the lawsuit that led to the federal monitoring of the OPD.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The quartet of officers known as “The Riders” rampaged West Oakland, an area once patrolled by the Black Panthers \u003cem>because of\u003c/em> police brutality, after sunset. An enduring vestige of enslavement is the over-policing of Black neighborhoods. As part of the $11 million settlement with the plaintiffs in 2003, the police department was forced to comply with court-ordered reforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almost two decades after the settlement, \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2023/02/15/oakland-police-chief-leronne-armstrong-fired-mayor-sheng-thao/\">LeRonne Armstrong, OPD’s police chief, was fired on Feb. 15\u003c/a>, in part, because of an independent report that detailed the police department’s mishandling of officer misconduct — the kind of violation that led to federal monitoring in the first place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11942048\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11942048\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A bald Black man in a blue police uniform stands outside in the sun holding a microphone and squinting\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1278\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS49478_044_Oakland_NAACPGeorgeFloyd_05252021-qut-1536x1022.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Former Oakland Police Chief LeRonne Armstrong, pictured at a 2021 NAACP event paying tribute to George Floyd, was fired by Mayor Sheng Thao on Feb. 15. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Last month, I interviewed Darwin BondGraham and Ali Winston, co-authors of \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2023/01/13/oakland-police-darwin-bondgraham-riders-ali-winston-book-opd/\">\u003cem>The Riders Come Out at Night: Brutality, Corruption, and Cover-Up in Oakland\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, as part of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/archive/video/uncovering-brutality-cover-and-corruption-oakland\">Commonwealth Club of California event\u003c/a>. In the book, BondGraham, news editor for The Oaklandside, and Winston, an independent journalist, present a riveting and profound portrait of out-of-control policing in Oakland. \u003cem>The Riders Come Out at Night\u003c/em> is a compelling argument for why the police can’t be trusted with reforming the institution of policing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2016, OPD cycled through three police chiefs in eight days, an infamous stretch initiated by another misconduct scandal, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11080955/alameda-county-da-charges-7-cops-with-sexually-exploiting-teenager\">sex-trafficking of a minor by Oakland police officers and officers from multiple Bay Area jurisdictions\u003c/a>. The same year, two officers were suspended because of a racist text scandal. In 2021, nine officers were disciplined for racist and sexist social media posts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s what led to the firing of Armstrong, who is from West Oakland and became chief two years ago this month: In 2021, an OPD sergeant driving a police vehicle hit a parked car in the garage of his San Francisco apartment building. The driver, Sgt. Michael Chung, who was instrumental in OPD’s response to crime in Chinatown, didn't report the accident. In 2022, Chung fired his gun in an elevator at police headquarters. Again, no report was filed. An investigation by a law firm found that an OPD captain had Chung’s violations reduced so his punishment was less severe. According to the investigators with Clarence Dyer & Cohen LLP, Armstrong was aware of the light discipline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Jan. 18, the federal judge monitoring OPD's reform efforts made the report by Clarence Dyer & Cohen public. The investigation “revealed systemic failures far larger and more serious than the actions of one police officer,” the \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/OPD-IA-cases-NSA-compliance-report.pdf\">blistering report (PDF)\u003c/a> concluded. The next day Armstrong was placed on paid administrative leave.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's when he should've copped a plea and said, “My bad, y’all.” Instead, he campaigned for his job at a rally on the steps of Oakland City Hall. The NAACP held another rally on Feb. 20. I called Terry Wiley, the former Alameda County prosecutor who is handling press around the firing for the NAACP. Wiley told me that Armstrong had made the kind of progress people of color want to see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11942080\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11942080\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A profile shot of a group of roughly 10 people, most of them Black, listening while a woman in the middle claps her hands\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1291\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut-800x538.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut-1020x686.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/RS63165_GettyImages-1466897640-qut-1536x1033.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Community members listen to speakers during a rally in support of terminated Oakland police Chief LeRonne Armstrong at City Hall on Feb. 16. \u003ccite>(Jane Tyska/Digital First Media/East Bay Times via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“When you look at the balance of all of the positives he has brought to the department as the chief, the question becomes, was this incident such that he should be terminated?” said Wiley, who lost the November election for district attorney to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11940920/when-da-boudin-investigated-police-killings-arrests-slowed-that-may-not-happen-with-da-pamela-price\">progressive Pamela Price\u003c/a>. “Our conclusion was that the mayor went too far on this, and that there should have been much more contemplation about the decision.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement released by Sam Singer, a crisis manager, shortly after Armstrong was terminated, Armstrong referred to himself as a “loyal and effective reformer.” But reform isn’t possible without zero tolerance for misconduct, and the failure to issue appropriate discipline is inexcusable, especially for someone who pledges loyalty to reform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The police are incapable of policing the police. Just look around the Bay Area. In Vallejo, a city that blithely dodges police scrutiny, \u003ca href=\"https://openvallejo.org/2023/02/05/vallejo-destroyed-evidence-of-police-killings/\">the city destroyed evidence in multiple police killings\u003c/a> despite being under investigation by the state attorney general, according to reporting by Open Vallejo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/09/10/exclusive-fbi-criminal-investigation-of-antioch-pittsburg-cops-grows-grand-jury-convening/\">Officers in Antioch and Pittsburg are under investigation by the FBI and the Contra Costa district attorney\u003c/a> for fraud and civil rights violations, and federal prosecutors have already dismissed more than a dozen cases that hinged on officer testimony, according to \u003cem>The Mercury News\u003c/em>. And in Berkeley, the city’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11932420/berkeley-postpones-hiring-of-new-police-chief-amid-controversy-over-another-officers-alleged-racist-texts\">former police union head allegedly sent racist, anti-unhoused text messages\u003c/a> to officers while pushing for more arrests, as multiple newsrooms, including KQED, reported in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'What type of resources are we pouring into communities if our aim is to cut down on crime? Is the resource we're sending in a bunch of armed guys told to rough people up?'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Wesley Lowery, journalist, author and contributing editor to The Marshall Project","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>In January, the California Racial and Identity Profiling Advisory Board published a report that found that \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/ripa-board-report-2023.pdf\">police searched Black people at twice the rate of white people in 2021 (PDF)\u003c/a>. And get this: Officers were more likely to find contraband on white people than Black and Latino people, according to the report, which also found that police were twice as likely to use force against Black people than white people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2021, \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/data-reveals-racial-disparities-police-stops-bay-17763091.php\">Black people were six times as likely to be stopped in Oakland than white people\u003c/a>, according to the\u003cem> San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em>’s analysis of the police-stop data recently released by the state attorney general.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Francisco, Black people were at least five times as likely to be stopped than white people. This is a city where officers accused of, among other infractions, sexual misconduct, domestic violence and sharing racist and antisemitic texts work desk duty in a windowless room while raking in millions collectively, according to the San Francisco Standard’s \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/criminal-justice/cop-used-drugs-had-car-sex-with-a-teenager-then-sf-spent-1-2m-to-keep-him-on-desk-duty/\">three-part series on police accountability\u003c/a>. This is the city where \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/jenkins-police-investigate-17782463.php\">the law-and-order district attorney gutted the unit that investigates police misconduct and violence\u003c/a>, according to reporting by the \u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101892172/wesley-lowery-on-americas-elusive-racial-reckoning\">episode of Forum\u003c/a>, Wesley Lowery, a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter, talked with host Mina Kim about “\u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/tyre-nichols-death-memphis-george-floyd-police-reform/672986/\">Why There Was No Racial Reckoning\u003c/a>,” a piece he wrote for \u003cem>The Atlantic\u003c/em>. George Floyd’s murder by police in Minneapolis in May 2020 sparked nationwide uprisings not seen since 1967. Floyd’s death was supposed to also spark a reimagining of policing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That, of course, hasn’t happened. Instead, the backlash against protests that demanded more funding for social services has empowered cities to continue criminalizing poverty. Posturing by police and politicians isn't going to provide relief for families who have been living in poverty for generations. The police are trained in coercion, which renders their skills insufficient to respond to the circumstances which allow criminal activity to flourish: disinvestment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What type of resources are we pouring into those communities if our aim is to cut down on crime?” Lowery said on Forum. “Is the resource we're sending in a bunch of armed guys told to rough people up?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Reparations Coverage ","tag":"california-reparations"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>In July, the task force will deliver reparations recommendations, which are expected to include direct payments to eligible Black Californians. But reparations are more than compensation. 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