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It’s known simply as “\u003ca href=\"https://dish.stanford.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Dish\u003c/a>,” and it stands out among Stanford’s rolling hills — green or yellow, depending on the season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Who built The Dish?” asked former Menlo Park resident Jim Timmins. He also wanted to know, “When was it built? For what purpose? Is it still in service? If it’s not in service, when was it taken out of service?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Timmins retired from a career in finance four years ago and moved to a dairy farm outside of Toronto, Canada. But he still listens to Bay Curious, and he still dreams about The Dish — not just the satellite dish, but the sprawling park and walking paths surrounding the massive saucer that thousands of people visit each year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912625\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912625\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"An elevated view of green hills dotted with oak trees and the San Francisco Bay in the distance.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An elevated view, from the mezzanine of the Stanford Dish, of surrounding green hills dotted with oak trees, and the San Francisco Bay in the distance. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It’s just an incredible view,” Timmins explained. “I can remember it like it was yesterday. To the west, is the Pacific Ocean. To the south, I could see past San Jose. To the east, I could see well into the Central Valley. And to the north, I could see all the way past San Francisco and the Golden Gate in to Marin.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, this reporter has never seen quite so far as Timmins says he did when he started running around The Dish, as a Stanford student, back in 1979. But I do spot San Jose and San Francisco on clear days, and I love the way I can watch the landscape change over the seasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912633\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912633\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"A close up of oak acorns still on the tree.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"2560\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-800x800.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-160x160.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-1920x1920.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oak trees sprout leaves — and acorns — in the spring. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Clutches of deer and turkeys roam the grounds in the spring. Coyotes and tarantulas, too, in the late summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Red-tailed hawks coast on thermals, hunting for chirping ground squirrels in the grass below all year. I’ve spotted egrets, woodpeckers and hummingbirds. I’ve never seen a mountain lion, but signs warn me they’re out there as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even though I — and some 600,000 visitors a year — think of The Dish as a public park, it’s actually owned by Stanford. “The Dish is primarily used for academic research purposes, but in addition to that, it’s used for habitat restoration conservation efforts,” said Jovan Solis, who works with \u003ca href=\"https://lbre.stanford.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stanford Land, Buildings & Real Estate\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912632\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11912632 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A young male turkey shows his tail on a paved hiking path.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A young male turkey eyes a KQED reporter warily on the hiking path at the Stanford Dish. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Look closely and you’ll spot all kinds of habitat restoration projects Stanford students and professors are working on. There are efforts to encourage \u003ca href=\"https://news.stanford.edu/2019/01/15/save-native-grasslands-study-invasive-species/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">native grasses\u003c/a> and plants, like the \u003ca href=\"https://jrbp.stanford.edu/research/projects/floral-ecology-mimulus-aurantiacus-and-pedicularis-densiflora\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sticky monkey flower\u003c/a> and California \u003ca href=\"https://web.stanford.edu/~siegelr/flora/poppy.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">poppies\u003c/a>, as well as critters, like the \u003ca href=\"https://hcp.stanford.edu/salamander.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">California tiger salamander\u003c/a>. There also are two massive, solar-powered water storage facilities and a \u003ca href=\"https://www.alertwildfire.org/region/southeastbay/?camera=Axis-StanfordDish&v=81e002f\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">wildfire alert system\u003c/a>.\u003cspan class=\"Apple-converted-space\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>The dish about the Dish at the Dish\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Dish is a parabolic antenna radio telescope pointed at the heavens. It’s basically a giant, U-shaped dish, 150 feet from edge to edge, that sends and receives signals from space. And who’s the wizard of this Oz? It’s Stephen Muther, a senior research engineer with \u003ca href=\"https://www.sri.com/hoi/dish-radio-antenna/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SRI International\u003c/a>, a nonprofit scientific research institute started by Stanford in 1946.[emailsignup newslettername=\"baycurious\" align=\"right\"]He explained that The Dish was built in the early 1960s as a Cold War response to Sputnik 1, the first artificial satellite launched into space. Sputnik, launched by the Soviet Union in 1957, was about the size and shape of a beach ball, and it sent the U.S. into a national panic that was eventually channeled into a space program of our own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912627\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912627\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A man standing several flights of stairs up a giant satellite dish smiles at the view.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stephen Muther, a senior research engineer at SRI International, takes in the view from the mezzanine level of his office. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We were … listening to signals from [the Soviet Union] as they bounced off of the moon, using the moon as a reflector,” Muther said. The Dish was basically a giant spying device. (You can watch \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/bAvwUjN30kY\">silent footage of its construction here\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To this day, scientists and amateur radio enthusiasts like to demonstrate the process, for research purposes and for fun. The Dish concentrates radio waves into a narrow beam of energy, most of which gets absorbed by the moon. The rest bounces back our way, a round trip that takes about 2.5 seconds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve sent Morse code signals to the moon and back,” Muther said. “Testing, one, two, three. Hello. Hello. That kind of thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912628\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2493px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912628\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A 1960s era control panel features knobs and meters.\" width=\"2493\" height=\"2560\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-scaled.jpeg 2493w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-800x821.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-1020x1047.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-160x164.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-1496x1536.jpeg 1496w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-1995x2048.jpeg 1995w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-1920x1971.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2493px) 100vw, 2493px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A 1960s-era control panel inside the observation desk of The Dish. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>For years, I presumed The Dish was designed to listen for aliens. “No,” said Muther. It turns out that the airwaves above the hills on the Stanford campus are filled with all sorts of extraneous sounds, “from cellphones to broadcast stations, radio-dispatched anything. It’s a very noisy environment,” Muther said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You really want to be out in the middle of nowhere [to listen for signs of extraterrestrial life],” he continued. “We mostly talk to spacecraft [i.e., human-made satellites] closer to home.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Muther also offered me a tour of the observation deck at ground level of The Dish, his day-to-day office. It looks like a science classroom circa 1960, albeit one with a great view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912822\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11912822 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A sign is posted next to neat rows of flowers planted where grass has been cleared.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign tells passersby about efforts to more fully establish the sticky monkey flower, a favorite of local hummingbirds, on the grounds of the Stanford Dish. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“All these buttons here are the same ones you see on the control consoles in the old \u003ca href=\"https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/s69-40022_orig.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apollo Mission Control\u003c/a>,” he said. “It’s the same hardware, came from the same era, and it’s still in use today. We still have spare parts for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Dish sits on a circular rail, rotating upon command from these very controls inside the observation deck. It also can be tilted up or to the side, as desired. “This whole structure rotates — the building and everything,” Muther said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I asked Muther what the red “panic” button in the center of the main console is used for. “Well, sometimes the computer doesn’t do what you think it should be doing, and sends you off in the wrong direction really fast, and you’ve got to put a stop to it,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912636\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1213px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912636\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177.jpeg\" alt=\"A tarantula stands atop dry grass.\" width=\"1213\" height=\"1213\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177.jpeg 1213w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177-800x800.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177-1020x1020.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177-160x160.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1213px) 100vw, 1213px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A tarantula eyes a KQED reporter along the hiking trail at the Stanford Dish. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A chain-link fence keeps most nosy humans away from the satellite dish, but there is a lot of wildlife in the area. Birds, in particular, like to perch on The Dish and watch the goings-on below.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why not see for yourself what draws the crowds? No dogs or bicycles are allowed, but The Dish is open seven days a week, typically sunup to sundown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912823\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912823\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172.jpeg\" alt=\"A woman with sunglasses and a striped sunhat smiles in the foreground. A satellite dish sits on the hills behind her.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">KQED’s Rachael Myrow has struggled to take a selfie that includes her and The Dish while delivering a proper sense of scale. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Stanford Dish is a popular park as well as the home of a 1960s-era parabolic antenna radio telescope built to keep tabs on the Russian space program at the height of the Cold War. It's still used for research.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700532778,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":true,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1265},"headData":{"title":"No, the Stanford Dish Isn't Listening for Aliens — but It Was Built to Spy on Russia | KQED","description":"The Stanford Dish is a popular park as well as the home of a 1960s-era parabolic antenna radio telescope built to keep tabs on the Russian space program at the height of the Cold War. 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It’s known simply as “\u003ca href=\"https://dish.stanford.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Dish\u003c/a>,” and it stands out among Stanford’s rolling hills — green or yellow, depending on the season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Who built The Dish?” asked former Menlo Park resident Jim Timmins. He also wanted to know, “When was it built? For what purpose? Is it still in service? If it’s not in service, when was it taken out of service?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Timmins retired from a career in finance four years ago and moved to a dairy farm outside of Toronto, Canada. But he still listens to Bay Curious, and he still dreams about The Dish — not just the satellite dish, but the sprawling park and walking paths surrounding the massive saucer that thousands of people visit each year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912625\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912625\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"An elevated view of green hills dotted with oak trees and the San Francisco Bay in the distance.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5780-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An elevated view, from the mezzanine of the Stanford Dish, of surrounding green hills dotted with oak trees, and the San Francisco Bay in the distance. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It’s just an incredible view,” Timmins explained. “I can remember it like it was yesterday. To the west, is the Pacific Ocean. To the south, I could see past San Jose. To the east, I could see well into the Central Valley. And to the north, I could see all the way past San Francisco and the Golden Gate in to Marin.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, this reporter has never seen quite so far as Timmins says he did when he started running around The Dish, as a Stanford student, back in 1979. But I do spot San Jose and San Francisco on clear days, and I love the way I can watch the landscape change over the seasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912633\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912633\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"A close up of oak acorns still on the tree.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"2560\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-800x800.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-160x160.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/40E5EEAA-9216-4CA3-9C40-3549EE977935-1920x1920.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oak trees sprout leaves — and acorns — in the spring. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Clutches of deer and turkeys roam the grounds in the spring. Coyotes and tarantulas, too, in the late summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Red-tailed hawks coast on thermals, hunting for chirping ground squirrels in the grass below all year. I’ve spotted egrets, woodpeckers and hummingbirds. I’ve never seen a mountain lion, but signs warn me they’re out there as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even though I — and some 600,000 visitors a year — think of The Dish as a public park, it’s actually owned by Stanford. “The Dish is primarily used for academic research purposes, but in addition to that, it’s used for habitat restoration conservation efforts,” said Jovan Solis, who works with \u003ca href=\"https://lbre.stanford.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stanford Land, Buildings & Real Estate\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912632\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11912632 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A young male turkey shows his tail on a paved hiking path.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4483-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A young male turkey eyes a KQED reporter warily on the hiking path at the Stanford Dish. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Look closely and you’ll spot all kinds of habitat restoration projects Stanford students and professors are working on. There are efforts to encourage \u003ca href=\"https://news.stanford.edu/2019/01/15/save-native-grasslands-study-invasive-species/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">native grasses\u003c/a> and plants, like the \u003ca href=\"https://jrbp.stanford.edu/research/projects/floral-ecology-mimulus-aurantiacus-and-pedicularis-densiflora\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sticky monkey flower\u003c/a> and California \u003ca href=\"https://web.stanford.edu/~siegelr/flora/poppy.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">poppies\u003c/a>, as well as critters, like the \u003ca href=\"https://hcp.stanford.edu/salamander.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">California tiger salamander\u003c/a>. There also are two massive, solar-powered water storage facilities and a \u003ca href=\"https://www.alertwildfire.org/region/southeastbay/?camera=Axis-StanfordDish&v=81e002f\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">wildfire alert system\u003c/a>.\u003cspan class=\"Apple-converted-space\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>The dish about the Dish at the Dish\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Dish is a parabolic antenna radio telescope pointed at the heavens. It’s basically a giant, U-shaped dish, 150 feet from edge to edge, that sends and receives signals from space. And who’s the wizard of this Oz? It’s Stephen Muther, a senior research engineer with \u003ca href=\"https://www.sri.com/hoi/dish-radio-antenna/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SRI International\u003c/a>, a nonprofit scientific research institute started by Stanford in 1946.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"emailsignup","attributes":{"named":{"newslettername":"baycurious","align":"right","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>He explained that The Dish was built in the early 1960s as a Cold War response to Sputnik 1, the first artificial satellite launched into space. Sputnik, launched by the Soviet Union in 1957, was about the size and shape of a beach ball, and it sent the U.S. into a national panic that was eventually channeled into a space program of our own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912627\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912627\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A man standing several flights of stairs up a giant satellite dish smiles at the view.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5772-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stephen Muther, a senior research engineer at SRI International, takes in the view from the mezzanine level of his office. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We were … listening to signals from [the Soviet Union] as they bounced off of the moon, using the moon as a reflector,” Muther said. The Dish was basically a giant spying device. (You can watch \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/bAvwUjN30kY\">silent footage of its construction here\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To this day, scientists and amateur radio enthusiasts like to demonstrate the process, for research purposes and for fun. The Dish concentrates radio waves into a narrow beam of energy, most of which gets absorbed by the moon. The rest bounces back our way, a round trip that takes about 2.5 seconds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve sent Morse code signals to the moon and back,” Muther said. “Testing, one, two, three. Hello. Hello. That kind of thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912628\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2493px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912628\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A 1960s era control panel features knobs and meters.\" width=\"2493\" height=\"2560\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-scaled.jpeg 2493w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-800x821.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-1020x1047.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-160x164.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-1496x1536.jpeg 1496w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-1995x2048.jpeg 1995w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_5801-1920x1971.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2493px) 100vw, 2493px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A 1960s-era control panel inside the observation desk of The Dish. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>For years, I presumed The Dish was designed to listen for aliens. “No,” said Muther. It turns out that the airwaves above the hills on the Stanford campus are filled with all sorts of extraneous sounds, “from cellphones to broadcast stations, radio-dispatched anything. It’s a very noisy environment,” Muther said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You really want to be out in the middle of nowhere [to listen for signs of extraterrestrial life],” he continued. “We mostly talk to spacecraft [i.e., human-made satellites] closer to home.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Muther also offered me a tour of the observation deck at ground level of The Dish, his day-to-day office. It looks like a science classroom circa 1960, albeit one with a great view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912822\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11912822 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A sign is posted next to neat rows of flowers planted where grass has been cleared.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4811-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign tells passersby about efforts to more fully establish the sticky monkey flower, a favorite of local hummingbirds, on the grounds of the Stanford Dish. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“All these buttons here are the same ones you see on the control consoles in the old \u003ca href=\"https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/s69-40022_orig.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apollo Mission Control\u003c/a>,” he said. “It’s the same hardware, came from the same era, and it’s still in use today. We still have spare parts for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Dish sits on a circular rail, rotating upon command from these very controls inside the observation deck. It also can be tilted up or to the side, as desired. “This whole structure rotates — the building and everything,” Muther said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I asked Muther what the red “panic” button in the center of the main console is used for. “Well, sometimes the computer doesn’t do what you think it should be doing, and sends you off in the wrong direction really fast, and you’ve got to put a stop to it,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912636\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1213px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912636\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177.jpeg\" alt=\"A tarantula stands atop dry grass.\" width=\"1213\" height=\"1213\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177.jpeg 1213w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177-800x800.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177-1020x1020.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_2177-160x160.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1213px) 100vw, 1213px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A tarantula eyes a KQED reporter along the hiking trail at the Stanford Dish. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A chain-link fence keeps most nosy humans away from the satellite dish, but there is a lot of wildlife in the area. Birds, in particular, like to perch on The Dish and watch the goings-on below.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why not see for yourself what draws the crowds? No dogs or bicycles are allowed, but The Dish is open seven days a week, typically sunup to sundown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912823\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11912823\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172.jpeg\" alt=\"A woman with sunglasses and a striped sunhat smiles in the foreground. A satellite dish sits on the hills behind her.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/IMG_4803-scaled-e1651344034172-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">KQED’s Rachael Myrow has struggled to take a selfie that includes her and The Dish while delivering a proper sense of scale. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"baycuriousquestion","attributes":{"named":{"label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11912590/no-the-stanford-dish-isnt-listening-for-aliens-but-it-was-designed-to-spy-on-russia","authors":["251"],"programs":["news_33523"],"series":["news_17986"],"categories":["news_28250","news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_17925","news_1259","news_353","news_1770","news_178"],"featImg":"news_11912619","label":"source_news_11912590"},"news_11578267":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11578267","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11578267","score":null,"sort":[1500681445000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"in-a-startup-and-cash-out-world-one-silicon-valley-restaurant-keeps-it-homespun","title":"In a Startup and Cash-Out World, One Silicon Valley Restaurant Keeps It Homespun","publishDate":1500681445,"format":"image","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Tim Diebert has been a regular at Hobee’s Restaurant in Palo Alto for the past 30 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I believe in good food. They have great food here,” Diebert says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He’s especially partial to the chorizo scramble with onions, garlic and runny scrambled eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it’s not just the food that’s kept him coming back to the restaurant for breakfast every day since he retired two years ago. The staff at Hobee’s know Diebert, and he says it’s one of the few places in the area that still has that old familiar feel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hobee’s has been owned and operated by the same family since opening in 1974. So he was understandably concerned when he saw a big yellow sign go up in the restaurant’s window in mid-June announcing a change in ownership.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11578276\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11578276\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tim Diebert sits at his favorite table at Hobee's Restaurant in Palo Alto. Diebert has been a Hobee's regular for 30 years, and he's been coming almost every day since he retired two years ago. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Then I learned that it was Danny and Camille, and when I learned that they were going to acquire the place, I knew things weren't going to change,” Diebert says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Danny and Camille Chijate aren’t part of a big private equity firm or venture capitalists trying to make it big in Silicon Valley. They’ve been working at Hobee’s — Danny in the kitchen and Camille as a waitress and manager — for the past 28 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Camille and Danny met while working at a Hobee’s in San Jose, married and grew with the restaurant chain, which has five locations across the Peninsula and South Bay. They were tapped to open a new San Jose location in the late 1990s, and Camille was eventually promoted to the corporate office, while Danny runs the kitchen in Palo Alto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This opportunity was amazing for us because it was our lifelong dream to be able to do this,” Camille said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2017/07/HobeesFIX.mp3\" Image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26047_DSC_1214-qut-1920x1272.jpg\" Title=\"In a Startup and Cash-Out World, One Silicon Valley Restaurant Keeps It Homespun\" program=\"The California Report\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Keeping it in the Family\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Hobee’s was founded by a Hawaii transplant named Paul Taber in 1974. It started as a single hamburger shop in Mountain View but quickly morphed and grew into a popular, quirky, family-run chain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Before you knew it, we were throughout Silicon Valley serving the best breakfasts in the area,” says Ed Fike, Paul’s son-in-law and one of the current owners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Peter Taber — Ed's husband and Paul’s son — helped his dad run the family business for years. In 2005, Peter passed daily operating duties over to Ed, and this year, after running the restaurant for decades, the family decided they were ready for a change and started preparing to sell the restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The family looked at a few buyers, but nobody felt right. They didn’t want the new owners to just see Hobee’s as a balance sheet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve never wanted to be slick,” Ed said. “It’s just not a slick operation. It’s very homespun.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually, they turned to Danny and Camille.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11578268\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11578268\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ed Fike (R) and his family sold Hobee's Restaurants to Camille Chijate (L) this summer. Hobee's has been owned by the same family since it opened in 1974, and the Chijates have worked for the chain for almost 30 years. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We don't have heirs, and it couldn't have gone to our family,” Ed says. “But certainly Camille and Daniel are like our family.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn’t easy for two restaurant workers to come up with the cash to buy a Silicon Valley restaurant chain. The Chijates used up their life savings, took a loan out against their house and borrowed from friends and family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They have some plans to modernize the restaurant’s technology and increase the number of locally sourced ingredients it uses, but Camille says the homey vibe that’s defined Hobee’s for decades won't change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We kind of keep one foot really firmly planted in sort of the legacy and the concept of the Hobee’s that people are comfortable with, and that other foot sort of testing the waters of what new things people might be interested in,” Camille said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>'Mile-High Coffee Cake'\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11578274\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11578274\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-800x1208.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1208\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-800x1208.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-160x242.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-1020x1540.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-1180x1781.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-960x1449.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-240x362.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-375x566.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-520x785.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485.jpg 1272w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pans of Hobee's famous blueberry coffee cake cool in the kitchen in the Palo Alto location. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In addition to helping his dad run the restaurant, Peter Taber also created Hobee’s signature item: its blueberry coffee cake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Basically it is a mile-high piece of coffee cake with blueberries on the inside,” Camille says, “and our famous streusel topping on top, which our customers always want more of because that's the best part.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Part of Camille’s corporate office job is going to the different locations to make sure everything tastes how it’s supposed to, including the coffee cake. She estimates she’s eaten around 2,500 pieces of coffee cake in her time at Hobee’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I'm at the kids' high school or soccer games, people are like, ‘Oh, you're the coffee cake lady.’ This is what we're known for,” Camille says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A lot of that coffee cake has been made by Juan Carlos Zaragosa. He’s been working at Hobee’s for 25 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He uses a small metal bowl to scoop frozen blueberries out of a box and sprinkles them on the cake batter. Then he takes handfuls of streusel topping and carefully adds it on top, gently spreading it out with a flat hand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s like watching an artist at work. And it makes him happy knowing that people come in just for his coffee cake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11578272\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11578272\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Juan Carlos Zaragosa sprinkles cinnamon streusel topping on Hobee's famous blueberry coffee cake. Zaragosa has been making coffee cake at Hobee's for 25 years. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People come in and they ask, ‘Who’s in the kitchen? Oh Juan Carlos!’ ” he says, a big smile plastered on his face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hobee’s is filled with people like Zaragosa who have worked there for decades, and people like Tim Diebert who have been eating there just as long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The reason that we're still successful is because people want a place that's familiar,” Camille says. “It's kind of like the old 'Cheers' thing. They want to be recognized. They want you know to know their name. They want to know the employees. You know people come in here, and they hug employees.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And as if on cue, Diebert gets up from his favorite table and gives Camille a hug.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The same family has owned the restaurant since 1974. Now they're selling it to two longtime employees.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1500938936,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":32,"wordCount":1234},"headData":{"title":"In a Startup and Cash-Out World, One Silicon Valley Restaurant Keeps It Homespun | KQED","description":"The same family has owned the restaurant since 1974. 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They have great food here,” Diebert says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He’s especially partial to the chorizo scramble with onions, garlic and runny scrambled eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it’s not just the food that’s kept him coming back to the restaurant for breakfast every day since he retired two years ago. The staff at Hobee’s know Diebert, and he says it’s one of the few places in the area that still has that old familiar feel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hobee’s has been owned and operated by the same family since opening in 1974. So he was understandably concerned when he saw a big yellow sign go up in the restaurant’s window in mid-June announcing a change in ownership.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11578276\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11578276\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26043_DSC_1231-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tim Diebert sits at his favorite table at Hobee's Restaurant in Palo Alto. Diebert has been a Hobee's regular for 30 years, and he's been coming almost every day since he retired two years ago. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Then I learned that it was Danny and Camille, and when I learned that they were going to acquire the place, I knew things weren't going to change,” Diebert says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Danny and Camille Chijate aren’t part of a big private equity firm or venture capitalists trying to make it big in Silicon Valley. They’ve been working at Hobee’s — Danny in the kitchen and Camille as a waitress and manager — for the past 28 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Camille and Danny met while working at a Hobee’s in San Jose, married and grew with the restaurant chain, which has five locations across the Peninsula and South Bay. They were tapped to open a new San Jose location in the late 1990s, and Camille was eventually promoted to the corporate office, while Danny runs the kitchen in Palo Alto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This opportunity was amazing for us because it was our lifelong dream to be able to do this,” Camille said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2017/07/HobeesFIX.mp3","image":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26047_DSC_1214-qut-1920x1272.jpg","title":"In a Startup and Cash-Out World, One Silicon Valley Restaurant Keeps It Homespun","program":"The California Report","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Keeping it in the Family\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Hobee’s was founded by a Hawaii transplant named Paul Taber in 1974. It started as a single hamburger shop in Mountain View but quickly morphed and grew into a popular, quirky, family-run chain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Before you knew it, we were throughout Silicon Valley serving the best breakfasts in the area,” says Ed Fike, Paul’s son-in-law and one of the current owners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Peter Taber — Ed's husband and Paul’s son — helped his dad run the family business for years. In 2005, Peter passed daily operating duties over to Ed, and this year, after running the restaurant for decades, the family decided they were ready for a change and started preparing to sell the restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The family looked at a few buyers, but nobody felt right. They didn’t want the new owners to just see Hobee’s as a balance sheet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve never wanted to be slick,” Ed said. “It’s just not a slick operation. It’s very homespun.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually, they turned to Danny and Camille.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11578268\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11578268\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26048_DSC_1218-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ed Fike (R) and his family sold Hobee's Restaurants to Camille Chijate (L) this summer. Hobee's has been owned by the same family since it opened in 1974, and the Chijates have worked for the chain for almost 30 years. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We don't have heirs, and it couldn't have gone to our family,” Ed says. “But certainly Camille and Daniel are like our family.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn’t easy for two restaurant workers to come up with the cash to buy a Silicon Valley restaurant chain. The Chijates used up their life savings, took a loan out against their house and borrowed from friends and family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They have some plans to modernize the restaurant’s technology and increase the number of locally sourced ingredients it uses, but Camille says the homey vibe that’s defined Hobee’s for decades won't change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We kind of keep one foot really firmly planted in sort of the legacy and the concept of the Hobee’s that people are comfortable with, and that other foot sort of testing the waters of what new things people might be interested in,” Camille said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>'Mile-High Coffee Cake'\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11578274\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11578274\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-800x1208.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1208\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-800x1208.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-160x242.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-1020x1540.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-1180x1781.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-960x1449.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-240x362.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-375x566.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485-520x785.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26045_DSC_1230-qut-e1500602589485.jpg 1272w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pans of Hobee's famous blueberry coffee cake cool in the kitchen in the Palo Alto location. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In addition to helping his dad run the restaurant, Peter Taber also created Hobee’s signature item: its blueberry coffee cake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Basically it is a mile-high piece of coffee cake with blueberries on the inside,” Camille says, “and our famous streusel topping on top, which our customers always want more of because that's the best part.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Part of Camille’s corporate office job is going to the different locations to make sure everything tastes how it’s supposed to, including the coffee cake. She estimates she’s eaten around 2,500 pieces of coffee cake in her time at Hobee’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I'm at the kids' high school or soccer games, people are like, ‘Oh, you're the coffee cake lady.’ This is what we're known for,” Camille says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A lot of that coffee cake has been made by Juan Carlos Zaragosa. He’s been working at Hobee’s for 25 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He uses a small metal bowl to scoop frozen blueberries out of a box and sprinkles them on the cake batter. Then he takes handfuls of streusel topping and carefully adds it on top, gently spreading it out with a flat hand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s like watching an artist at work. And it makes him happy knowing that people come in just for his coffee cake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11578272\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11578272\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS26046_DSC_1226-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Juan Carlos Zaragosa sprinkles cinnamon streusel topping on Hobee's famous blueberry coffee cake. Zaragosa has been making coffee cake at Hobee's for 25 years. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People come in and they ask, ‘Who’s in the kitchen? Oh Juan Carlos!’ ” he says, a big smile plastered on his face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hobee’s is filled with people like Zaragosa who have worked there for decades, and people like Tim Diebert who have been eating there just as long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The reason that we're still successful is because people want a place that's familiar,” Camille says. “It's kind of like the old 'Cheers' thing. They want to be recognized. They want you know to know their name. They want to know the employees. You know people come in here, and they hug employees.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And as if on cue, Diebert gets up from his favorite table and gives Camille a hug.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11578267/in-a-startup-and-cash-out-world-one-silicon-valley-restaurant-keeps-it-homespun","authors":["11260"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_223","news_1758","news_8"],"tags":["news_333","news_803","news_1259","news_353","news_21285","news_17286"],"featImg":"news_11578271","label":"news_72"},"news_10919489":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10919489","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10919489","score":null,"sort":[1459885379000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"floating-home-community-vying-for-survival-in-redwood-city","title":"Floating Home Community Vying for Survival in Redwood City","publishDate":1459885379,"format":"image","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, April 5, 6:46 p.m.:\u003c/strong> The State Lands Commission directed staff to work together with Redwood City and residents at Docktown Marina to craft a proposal that would allow residents to stay at the marina for 15 years. The city wants to restrict the rental and transfer of liveaboards during that time, which residents oppose. The final proposal would have to be approved by the state Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original story:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n[dropcap]T[/dropcap]oday the State Lands Commission is considering the future of Redwood City's Docktown Marina, where more than 85 residents rent dock slips from the city to live in floating homes -- also called liveaboards -- on the flowing waters of Redwood Creek.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The floating home community of retirees, young families and veterans has been around for decades. But now, residents who raised children and bought homes at Docktown are being told they never really had a right to live there, even though they held leases for dock slips all along.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[soundcloud url=\"https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/257469367\" params=\"color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" iframe=\"true\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom and the other two State Lands commissioners are deciding whether to support a request by Redwood City to allow for a 15-year transitional period to move residents out. If the commission approves the city's proposal, state legislators would still have to introduce and approve a bill, with an uncertain timeline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919936\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10919936 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Pedestrian bridges connect the docks to adjacent land. \" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pedestrian bridges connect the docks to adjacent land. Across the creek, new housing developments are growing. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Redwood City Illegally Renting Marina for Residences\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Staff at the Office of the Attorney General and the State Lands Commission, which controls tidal and submerged lands, wrote to Redwood City in recent years that residential uses at Docktown Marina are not permitted, as liveaboards are located on public land.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwood City is currently looking at options to potentially relocate residents to bring the city back into compliance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We have to be consistent with state law. We don’t have a choice about that,\" Vice Mayor Ian Bain said. \"If state law or policy doesn’t change, that means liveaboard uses are not allowed.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The news came as a shock to residents such as Ellen Savage, who bought her two-story floating home at Docktown more than 14 years ago. Savage says she loves smelling the sea breeze and seeing the wildlife and occasional seal from her back porch right above the creek. But more than anything, she loves the community she's built there over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't want to move,\" says Savage, 66. \"I love living here with these people. It's very eclectic but it works really well. We are all very good friends and look out for one another.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919928\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10919928 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Ellen Savage has lived for over 14 years at the floating home she bought at Docktown. Savage says she would be unable to afford to live elsewhere in Redwood City or the Peninsula if evicted.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ellen Savage has lived for over 14 years at the floating home she owns at Docktown. Savage rents her dock slip for $710 a month and says she would be unable to afford to live elsewhere in Redwood City or the Peninsula if the marina closes.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Savage, a Palo Alto native who is now retired, pays the city $710 to rent her dock slip and for city services such as sewage pumpout. She began leasing directly from Redwood City in 2013, when the city took over management of the marina. Before then, Savage paid rent to the private business operating Docktown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I find myself feeling like a pawn in a chess game. Somebody else is going to determine my fate, while they take money from me,\" says Savage, adding that if she had known earlier that residential uses might be unlawful at Redwood Creek, she would not have invested in buying her one-bedroom floating home at Docktown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Savage and other residents believe relocating many of the floating homes, which look more like houses than boats and can't navigate on their own, would be nearly impossible. Other Bay Area marinas, such as in Berkeley and Vallejo, have a years-long wait list for residential slips and require boats to be seaworthy and able to navigate away from those slips every so often.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If Docktown is closed and there is no place to relocate us, I'll probably get some settlement from the city and that would be it -- the house would go to the crusher,\" says Savage, glancing at her living room full of books, music CDs and other possessions she collected throughout her life with her late husband.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorney Bill Sloan, of San Francisco's Morrison and Foerster law firm, is concerned that Docktown residents found out about their potential eviction from letters between the city and staff at State Lands, without a proper public hearing or discussion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"How can it be that this community has been allowed to exist for 50 years and now it's suddenly revealed to them ... that somehow their existence there is not even permitted,\" says Sloan, who is representing Docktowners before the State Lands Commission. \"That to us doesn't sound right. It doesn't sound right as a matter of fairness. But we also have some questions on whether that is an appropriate interpretation of the law.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vice Mayor Bain, who has been part of Redwood City's City Council for 13 years, said it's standard practice for cities to consult with their own legal counsel on issues like this. The city's goal is to have a plan for Docktown's future by the end of this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are committed to working with Docktown residents who will be heavily involved in developing the plan going forward,\" says Bain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bain says he found out residential uses were not allowed at Docktown only in 2014 from staff at State Lands. Redwood City invited the State Lands Commission to participate in the city's planning process to revamp the 100-acre Inner Harbor area northeast of Highway 101 and along Redwood Creek.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We allowed liveaboard uses because we weren’t aware that that’s what the state policy was,\" says Bain. \"Once we became aware of the issue with State Lands policy, it’s something that we have been working on ... and our No.1 commitment is to our residents.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919929\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10919929 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Emilio Diaz, 71, at the liveaboard he shares with his 20-year old son. Diaz, a Vietnam veteran, says he has stayed at Docktown for more than 15 years because he enjoys the community.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Emilio Diaz, 71, at the liveaboard he shares with his 20-year-old son. Diaz, a Vietnam veteran, says he has stayed at Docktown for 18 years because he values the community. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>History: Docktown Marina\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The state of California granted control and management of \"certain salt marsh, tide and submerged lands\" at Redwood Creek to the city in 1945. In 1964, the city leased the waterway to the owner of the adjacent land, J. Franklin Salaman, who created a marina business that was eventually transferred to Fred Earnhardt Jr.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Records show the city became concerned about residential uses at Docktown Marina, particularly the construction of floating homes without permits, safety issues related to the conditions of some vessels and water pollution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By 2001, then-city manager Ed Everett was calling Docktown a \"major concern to the city\" and a \"public nuisance.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Residents say they have repeatedly requested sewage connections, but the city has connected sewage for only four of the 70 liveaboards. The rest have a sewage pumpout service, and gray water from sinks and showers goes into the creek.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2013, Earnhardt closed his marina business, and the city began managing Docktown and collecting rent from its residents. The city's revenue for the marina over the last eight months was nearly $422,000, which City Manager Melissa Stevenson Diaz says is not enough to cover operating costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between 2011 and 2012, the city earned only $20,400, as most of the dock's rents were going to Earndardt's business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919938\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10919938 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1.jpg\" alt=\"New condo and hotel developments are underway near Docktown Marina. The city is planning to revamp the Inner Harbor area, along Redwood Creek.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Neighboring condo and hotel developments are underway near Docktown Marina. The city is planning to revamp the 100-acre Inner Harbor area, along Redwood Creek. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>City Agrees To Settlement Over Docktown\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Real estate attorney and sailing enthusiast Ted Hannig can see Docktown every day from his new condo right across the creek. Hannig says the city knew residential uses were not included in the state's land grant for a long time, at least 15 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Everyone has a right to that space under the public trust doctrine,\" says Hannig. \"And the city has been knowingly violating that state law by allowing people to isolate parts of it for residential use.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hannig is not popular with his neighbors at the docks. He slammed the city with a 480-page lawsuit last year over public doctrine and environmental violations at Docktown. His lawsuit includes claims that the city didn't properly notify residents or county authorities that the mud under Docktown's liveaboards is highly contaminated with mercury and lead from the area's industrial past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city settled the case within two months. They agreed to set aside $3 million to address potential relocation assistance and contamination costs for Docktown. The city also awarded Hannig and the group he founded, Citizens for the Public Trust, $1.5 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wanted the city to know that when they stray off and they continue to do something unlawful for a period of time ... there will be people who come after them. There will be people who recover attorney's fees against them,\" says Hannig.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919933\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-10919933\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Lush gardens grow from pots at liveaboards in Docktown. The community is fighting for survival.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lush gardens grow from pots at liveaboards in Docktown. The community is fighting for survival. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The agreement baffles Docktown residents, who say they are good stewards of the creek, cleaning up trash regularly, and that everyone is welcome to enjoy the waterway. They wonder if Hannig, who worked in the sale and closure of a nearby houseboat marina, sued the city to get Docktowners out of the picture and to benefit developers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Hannig denies those claims vehemently. He is aware his lawsuit sped up the potential relocation of Docktowners who can't afford to live anywhere else in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's not that we're opposed to affordable housing. What we're saying is this is the wrong place, and it's causing potentially long-term damage,\" says Hannig.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vice Mayor Bain says that at this point the city is trying to balance the hardship of requiring the relocation of all tenants from homes that are naturally affordable, with the public's need for greater access to that area. That is why the city is requesting State Lands support legislation that would allow Docktown to remain for a period of 15 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We need a lot of time to look at whether or not we can build another floating community in Redwood City or whether they’ll have to relocate elsewhere,\" says Bain. \"Personally with this community, I would like to keep the community together and I’d like to keep the community in Redwood City.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ellen Savage, the Docktown resident, hopes State Lands commissioners will approve the city's request to allow for temporary residential uses at Docktown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It sure beats hearing that we have to be out in 15 months,\" says Savage. \"I can live with this.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Residents of Docktown Marina are being told they never really had a right to live there, even though they held leases for dock slips all along.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1459919361,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":40,"wordCount":1923},"headData":{"title":"Floating Home Community Vying for Survival in Redwood City | KQED","description":"Residents of Docktown Marina are being told they never really had a right to live there, even though they held leases for dock slips all along.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Floating Home Community Vying for Survival in Redwood City","datePublished":"2016-04-05T19:42:59.000Z","dateModified":"2016-04-06T05:09:21.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"10919489 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10919489","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/04/05/floating-home-community-vying-for-survival-in-redwood-city/","disqusTitle":"Floating Home Community Vying for Survival in Redwood City","path":"/news/10919489/floating-home-community-vying-for-survival-in-redwood-city","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, April 5, 6:46 p.m.:\u003c/strong> The State Lands Commission directed staff to work together with Redwood City and residents at Docktown Marina to craft a proposal that would allow residents to stay at the marina for 15 years. The city wants to restrict the rental and transfer of liveaboards during that time, which residents oppose. The final proposal would have to be approved by the state Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original story:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">T\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>oday the State Lands Commission is considering the future of Redwood City's Docktown Marina, where more than 85 residents rent dock slips from the city to live in floating homes -- also called liveaboards -- on the flowing waters of Redwood Creek.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The floating home community of retirees, young families and veterans has been around for decades. But now, residents who raised children and bought homes at Docktown are being told they never really had a right to live there, even though they held leases for dock slips all along.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cdiv class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__shortcodes__shortcodeWrapper'>\n \u003ciframe width='100%' height='166'\n scrolling='no' frameborder='no'\n src='https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/257469367&visual=true&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false'\n title='https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/257469367'>\n \u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/div>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom and the other two State Lands commissioners are deciding whether to support a request by Redwood City to allow for a 15-year transitional period to move residents out. If the commission approves the city's proposal, state legislators would still have to introduce and approve a bill, with an uncertain timeline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919936\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10919936 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Pedestrian bridges connect the docks to adjacent land. \" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18974_IMG_9562-qut-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pedestrian bridges connect the docks to adjacent land. Across the creek, new housing developments are growing. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Redwood City Illegally Renting Marina for Residences\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Staff at the Office of the Attorney General and the State Lands Commission, which controls tidal and submerged lands, wrote to Redwood City in recent years that residential uses at Docktown Marina are not permitted, as liveaboards are located on public land.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwood City is currently looking at options to potentially relocate residents to bring the city back into compliance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We have to be consistent with state law. We don’t have a choice about that,\" Vice Mayor Ian Bain said. \"If state law or policy doesn’t change, that means liveaboard uses are not allowed.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The news came as a shock to residents such as Ellen Savage, who bought her two-story floating home at Docktown more than 14 years ago. Savage says she loves smelling the sea breeze and seeing the wildlife and occasional seal from her back porch right above the creek. But more than anything, she loves the community she's built there over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't want to move,\" says Savage, 66. \"I love living here with these people. It's very eclectic but it works really well. We are all very good friends and look out for one another.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919928\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10919928 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Ellen Savage has lived for over 14 years at the floating home she bought at Docktown. Savage says she would be unable to afford to live elsewhere in Redwood City or the Peninsula if evicted.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18964_IMG_9505-qut-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ellen Savage has lived for over 14 years at the floating home she owns at Docktown. Savage rents her dock slip for $710 a month and says she would be unable to afford to live elsewhere in Redwood City or the Peninsula if the marina closes.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Savage, a Palo Alto native who is now retired, pays the city $710 to rent her dock slip and for city services such as sewage pumpout. She began leasing directly from Redwood City in 2013, when the city took over management of the marina. Before then, Savage paid rent to the private business operating Docktown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I find myself feeling like a pawn in a chess game. Somebody else is going to determine my fate, while they take money from me,\" says Savage, adding that if she had known earlier that residential uses might be unlawful at Redwood Creek, she would not have invested in buying her one-bedroom floating home at Docktown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Savage and other residents believe relocating many of the floating homes, which look more like houses than boats and can't navigate on their own, would be nearly impossible. Other Bay Area marinas, such as in Berkeley and Vallejo, have a years-long wait list for residential slips and require boats to be seaworthy and able to navigate away from those slips every so often.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If Docktown is closed and there is no place to relocate us, I'll probably get some settlement from the city and that would be it -- the house would go to the crusher,\" says Savage, glancing at her living room full of books, music CDs and other possessions she collected throughout her life with her late husband.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorney Bill Sloan, of San Francisco's Morrison and Foerster law firm, is concerned that Docktown residents found out about their potential eviction from letters between the city and staff at State Lands, without a proper public hearing or discussion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"How can it be that this community has been allowed to exist for 50 years and now it's suddenly revealed to them ... that somehow their existence there is not even permitted,\" says Sloan, who is representing Docktowners before the State Lands Commission. \"That to us doesn't sound right. It doesn't sound right as a matter of fairness. But we also have some questions on whether that is an appropriate interpretation of the law.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vice Mayor Bain, who has been part of Redwood City's City Council for 13 years, said it's standard practice for cities to consult with their own legal counsel on issues like this. The city's goal is to have a plan for Docktown's future by the end of this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are committed to working with Docktown residents who will be heavily involved in developing the plan going forward,\" says Bain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bain says he found out residential uses were not allowed at Docktown only in 2014 from staff at State Lands. Redwood City invited the State Lands Commission to participate in the city's planning process to revamp the 100-acre Inner Harbor area northeast of Highway 101 and along Redwood Creek.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We allowed liveaboard uses because we weren’t aware that that’s what the state policy was,\" says Bain. \"Once we became aware of the issue with State Lands policy, it’s something that we have been working on ... and our No.1 commitment is to our residents.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919929\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10919929 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Emilio Diaz, 71, at the liveaboard he shares with his 20-year old son. Diaz, a Vietnam veteran, says he has stayed at Docktown for more than 15 years because he enjoys the community.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18976_IMG_9656-qut-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Emilio Diaz, 71, at the liveaboard he shares with his 20-year-old son. Diaz, a Vietnam veteran, says he has stayed at Docktown for 18 years because he values the community. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>History: Docktown Marina\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The state of California granted control and management of \"certain salt marsh, tide and submerged lands\" at Redwood Creek to the city in 1945. In 1964, the city leased the waterway to the owner of the adjacent land, J. Franklin Salaman, who created a marina business that was eventually transferred to Fred Earnhardt Jr.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Records show the city became concerned about residential uses at Docktown Marina, particularly the construction of floating homes without permits, safety issues related to the conditions of some vessels and water pollution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By 2001, then-city manager Ed Everett was calling Docktown a \"major concern to the city\" and a \"public nuisance.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Residents say they have repeatedly requested sewage connections, but the city has connected sewage for only four of the 70 liveaboards. The rest have a sewage pumpout service, and gray water from sinks and showers goes into the creek.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2013, Earnhardt closed his marina business, and the city began managing Docktown and collecting rent from its residents. The city's revenue for the marina over the last eight months was nearly $422,000, which City Manager Melissa Stevenson Diaz says is not enough to cover operating costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between 2011 and 2012, the city earned only $20,400, as most of the dock's rents were going to Earndardt's business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919938\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10919938 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1.jpg\" alt=\"New condo and hotel developments are underway near Docktown Marina. The city is planning to revamp the Inner Harbor area, along Redwood Creek.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18975_IMG_9643-qut-1-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Neighboring condo and hotel developments are underway near Docktown Marina. The city is planning to revamp the 100-acre Inner Harbor area, along Redwood Creek. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>City Agrees To Settlement Over Docktown\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Real estate attorney and sailing enthusiast Ted Hannig can see Docktown every day from his new condo right across the creek. Hannig says the city knew residential uses were not included in the state's land grant for a long time, at least 15 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Everyone has a right to that space under the public trust doctrine,\" says Hannig. \"And the city has been knowingly violating that state law by allowing people to isolate parts of it for residential use.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hannig is not popular with his neighbors at the docks. He slammed the city with a 480-page lawsuit last year over public doctrine and environmental violations at Docktown. His lawsuit includes claims that the city didn't properly notify residents or county authorities that the mud under Docktown's liveaboards is highly contaminated with mercury and lead from the area's industrial past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city settled the case within two months. They agreed to set aside $3 million to address potential relocation assistance and contamination costs for Docktown. The city also awarded Hannig and the group he founded, Citizens for the Public Trust, $1.5 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wanted the city to know that when they stray off and they continue to do something unlawful for a period of time ... there will be people who come after them. There will be people who recover attorney's fees against them,\" says Hannig.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10919933\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-10919933\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Lush gardens grow from pots at liveaboards in Docktown. The community is fighting for survival.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut-400x267.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/04/RS18969_IMG_9532-qut-960x640.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lush gardens grow from pots at liveaboards in Docktown. The community is fighting for survival. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The agreement baffles Docktown residents, who say they are good stewards of the creek, cleaning up trash regularly, and that everyone is welcome to enjoy the waterway. They wonder if Hannig, who worked in the sale and closure of a nearby houseboat marina, sued the city to get Docktowners out of the picture and to benefit developers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Hannig denies those claims vehemently. He is aware his lawsuit sped up the potential relocation of Docktowners who can't afford to live anywhere else in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's not that we're opposed to affordable housing. What we're saying is this is the wrong place, and it's causing potentially long-term damage,\" says Hannig.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vice Mayor Bain says that at this point the city is trying to balance the hardship of requiring the relocation of all tenants from homes that are naturally affordable, with the public's need for greater access to that area. That is why the city is requesting State Lands support legislation that would allow Docktown to remain for a period of 15 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We need a lot of time to look at whether or not we can build another floating community in Redwood City or whether they’ll have to relocate elsewhere,\" says Bain. \"Personally with this community, I would like to keep the community together and I’d like to keep the community in Redwood City.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ellen Savage, the Docktown resident, hopes State Lands commissioners will approve the city's request to allow for temporary residential uses at Docktown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It sure beats hearing that we have to be out in 15 months,\" says Savage. \"I can live with this.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/10919489/floating-home-community-vying-for-survival-in-redwood-city","authors":["8659"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6266","news_8"],"tags":["news_1259","news_17867"],"featImg":"news_10919932","label":"news_6944"},"news_10756084":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10756084","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10756084","score":null,"sort":[1447432997000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"controversial-head-of-filoli-estate-gone-with-no-explanation","title":"Controversial Head of Filoli Estate Gone With No Explanation","publishDate":1447432997,"format":"standard","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Every year more than 100,000 people visit Filoli, a Georgian-style mansion and formal gardens in Woodside. And more than 1,000 volunteers keep it running. This week, they \u003ca href=\"http://www.almanacnews.com/news/2015/11/11/filoli-head-cynthia-dagosta-is-no-longer-with-organization\" target=\"_blank\">got an email\u003c/a> from Filoli’s executive committee alerting them to the departure of Executive Director Cynthia D'Agosta and the search for an interim replacement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Did she resign? Was she fired? The email doesn't say, and a spokeswoman for Filoli wouldn't elaborate. But the timing raises eyebrows, as Filoli’s biggest annual event, “\u003ca href=\"http://www.filoli.org/holiday-traditions/\" target=\"_blank\">Holiday Traditions\u003c/a>,” begins the day after Thanksgiving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last winter, after D'Agosta required all volunteers to sign a new legal agreement to continue at Filoli, roughly 100 left. The \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/03/03/upset-at-filoli-100-plus-volunteers-quit-california-landmark-over-legal-waiver/\" target=\"_blank\">bitter battle\u003c/a> may well be the defining event of D'Agosta's three-year tenure at Filoli. But it's not clear whether that had anything to do with her departure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"FOJwuBH88ZkBCUXYLvqC8R4AfbDwVgn6\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new guidelines require volunteers to donate their services, perform duties as assigned, allow Filoli to use photos for promotional purposes and pay for medical costs incurred by accident, illness or injury associated with volunteering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are trying to move Filoli out of a 40-year-old business plan and into today's world, which is multifaceted and very litigious,\" D'Agosta told KQED in March. Attempts to reach her for this story were unsuccessful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After 36 years at Filoli, Judy Harris was one of those who left over the legal agreement, and the way it was handled. Regardless of what prompted D'Agosta's departure, Harris wrote KQED, \"I can not tell you how ecstatic I am!!!!!!!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Read the Email \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\u003cem>We are writing to inform you that Executive Director Cynthia D’Agosta is no longer with Filoli. Carolyn Daley, Chair of the Governing Board’s Finance Committee and a member of the Governing Board Executive Committee will oversee Cynthia’s direct reports until an interim Executive Director can be named.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>We are confident that this change will not impact the continuing operations of Filoli or Holiday Traditions. As you know, Filoli has a strong staff and the Friends Organization and the Governing Board have committed leadership. HT is fully organized, staffed and in the final stages of preparation with a confident momentum of its own.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Our plan is to immediately retain an interim Executive Director from a professional agency, followed by a search for a permanent replacement. During this transition period the Governing Board Executive Committee will provide continuing oversight of all Filoli operations and ongoing projects. We know we can count on the help and support of the Board and the Friend’s leadership.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>We thank Cynthia for her contributions to Filoli and wish her the best. We thank you all for your support as we move forward.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Filoli Governing Board Executive Committee\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Executive director of Woodside estate, Cynthia D'Agosta, left abruptly this week.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1447442189,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":481},"headData":{"title":"Controversial Head of Filoli Estate Gone With No Explanation | KQED","description":"Executive director of Woodside estate, Cynthia D'Agosta, left abruptly this week.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Controversial Head of Filoli Estate Gone With No Explanation","datePublished":"2015-11-13T16:43:17.000Z","dateModified":"2015-11-13T19:16:29.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"10756084 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10756084","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/11/13/controversial-head-of-filoli-estate-gone-with-no-explanation/","disqusTitle":"Controversial Head of Filoli Estate Gone With No Explanation","path":"/news/10756084/controversial-head-of-filoli-estate-gone-with-no-explanation","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Every year more than 100,000 people visit Filoli, a Georgian-style mansion and formal gardens in Woodside. And more than 1,000 volunteers keep it running. This week, they \u003ca href=\"http://www.almanacnews.com/news/2015/11/11/filoli-head-cynthia-dagosta-is-no-longer-with-organization\" target=\"_blank\">got an email\u003c/a> from Filoli’s executive committee alerting them to the departure of Executive Director Cynthia D'Agosta and the search for an interim replacement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Did she resign? Was she fired? The email doesn't say, and a spokeswoman for Filoli wouldn't elaborate. But the timing raises eyebrows, as Filoli’s biggest annual event, “\u003ca href=\"http://www.filoli.org/holiday-traditions/\" target=\"_blank\">Holiday Traditions\u003c/a>,” begins the day after Thanksgiving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last winter, after D'Agosta required all volunteers to sign a new legal agreement to continue at Filoli, roughly 100 left. The \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/03/03/upset-at-filoli-100-plus-volunteers-quit-california-landmark-over-legal-waiver/\" target=\"_blank\">bitter battle\u003c/a> may well be the defining event of D'Agosta's three-year tenure at Filoli. But it's not clear whether that had anything to do with her departure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new guidelines require volunteers to donate their services, perform duties as assigned, allow Filoli to use photos for promotional purposes and pay for medical costs incurred by accident, illness or injury associated with volunteering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are trying to move Filoli out of a 40-year-old business plan and into today's world, which is multifaceted and very litigious,\" D'Agosta told KQED in March. Attempts to reach her for this story were unsuccessful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After 36 years at Filoli, Judy Harris was one of those who left over the legal agreement, and the way it was handled. Regardless of what prompted D'Agosta's departure, Harris wrote KQED, \"I can not tell you how ecstatic I am!!!!!!!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Read the Email \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\u003cem>We are writing to inform you that Executive Director Cynthia D’Agosta is no longer with Filoli. Carolyn Daley, Chair of the Governing Board’s Finance Committee and a member of the Governing Board Executive Committee will oversee Cynthia’s direct reports until an interim Executive Director can be named.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>We are confident that this change will not impact the continuing operations of Filoli or Holiday Traditions. As you know, Filoli has a strong staff and the Friends Organization and the Governing Board have committed leadership. HT is fully organized, staffed and in the final stages of preparation with a confident momentum of its own.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Our plan is to immediately retain an interim Executive Director from a professional agency, followed by a search for a permanent replacement. During this transition period the Governing Board Executive Committee will provide continuing oversight of all Filoli operations and ongoing projects. We know we can count on the help and support of the Board and the Friend’s leadership.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>We thank Cynthia for her contributions to Filoli and wish her the best. We thank you all for your support as we move forward.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Filoli Governing Board Executive Committee\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/10756084/controversial-head-of-filoli-estate-gone-with-no-explanation","authors":["251"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_223","news_8"],"tags":["news_17783","news_1259"],"featImg":"news_10756133","label":"news_6944"},"news_10472738":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10472738","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10472738","score":null,"sort":[1427981417000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"hikers-bikers-press-for-more-public-trails-in-peninsula-watershed","title":"Hikers, Bikers Press for More Public Trails in Peninsula Watershed","publishDate":1427981417,"format":"standard","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Commuters on Interstate Highway 280 see it to the west every day. Rolling green hills carpeted with trees, stunning cloud formations along the ridge line, and down below, sparkling blue reservoirs. This green stretches all the way from Pacifica to Highway 84. First you ask, “What IS that?” Then you ask, “How do I get IN there?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's a watershed for the \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfwater.org/index.aspx?page=199\" target=\"_blank\">San Francisco Public Utilities Commission\u003c/a>, and most of it is not open to the public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Supervisors, led by Supervisor John Avalos, have started talking about expanding access to more trails. The \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfbos.org/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=51976\" target=\"_blank\">agenda item\u003c/a>, which is not expected to lead to an immediate vote, comes at the prompting of a group called \u003ca href=\"http://www.openthewatershed.org/\" target=\"_blank\">Open the SF Watershed\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[soundcloud url=\"https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/198926725\" params=\"color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" iframe=\"true\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are 31 miles of public trails between Highway 280 and the reservoirs. The \u003ca href=\"https://parks.smcgov.org/crystal-springs-regional-trail\" target=\"_blank\">Crystal Springs Regional Trail\u003c/a> system is paved and popular -- 325,000 people visit a year. But Open the SF Watershed wants more, as group member Charlie Krenz explains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The watershed is massive,\" Krenz says. \"It’s 23,000 acres. It’s really the heart of the Northern Peninsula’s wilderness area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He's put together a video with helpful visuals about what Open the SF Watershed wants to see happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeJUmANEAiU]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Krenz is a board member with the \u003ca href=\"www.ltcwd.org\" target=\"_blank\">Los Trancos County Water District\u003c/a> on the Peninsula, as well as with \u003ca href=\"http://www.svmtb.org/\" target=\"_blank\">Silicon Valley Mountain Bikers\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wants the land west of the reservoirs opened to hikers, bikers and equestrians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For hiking, it’s going to be beautiful, but it also lends itself to mountain biking because it’s so big,\" Krenz says. \"People will definitely hike it, but the distances really lend themselves to mountain bikes.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He adds, \"It’s one of the most spectacular coastlines that exists.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brian Coyne agrees. He writes about mountain biking for the San Francisco Chronicle. One of Coyne’s headlines last year: “\u003ca href=\"http://blog.sfgate.com/bicycle/2014/10/04/the-best-bay-area-bike-trails-youre-not-allowed-to-ride/\" target=\"_blank\">The Best Bay Area bike trails you’re not allowed to ride.\u003c/a>”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coyne insists, \"For public land, there should be a presumption in favor of public access,\" adding there are already established trails and roads on the land in question. \"We’re not requesting that any new trails or roads be built. It’s all already there. So really it’s a matter of just physically opening the gates.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10474112\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-10474112\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-400x300.jpg\" alt='The Spring Valley Water Company owned and operated the watershed until 1930. Brian Coyne of Open the SF Watershed laments, \"When the land was owned by a private company, you were allowed in, but when it was purchased by a public agency, the public was kicked out.\"' width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-400x300.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-1440x1080.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-768x576.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-320x240.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Spring Valley Water Company owned and operated the watershed until 1930. Brian Coyne of Open the SF Watershed laments, \"When the land was owned by a private company, you were allowed in, but when it was purchased by a public agency, the public was kicked out.\" \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Well, it’s not exactly that simple. Tim Ramirez manages the Crystal Springs watershed for the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission. He says the public has no idea of the complex of bureaucracies operating behind those gates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They just look at hiking trails,\" Ramirez says. \"They look at where the trail goes. They don’t look at who owns the land.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not just the PUC that regulates the watershed. So do agencies at every level: city, county, state and federal. It's even part of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.unesco.org/mabdb/br/brdir/directory/biores.asp?mode=all&code=USA+42\" target=\"_blank\">UNESCO Golden Gate Biosphere Reserve\u003c/a>. A lot of protected plants and animals call this place home, including the marbled murrelet, the fountain thistle and Marin Dwarf Flax. Ramirez says \u003cem>nothing \u003c/em>happens here without a lot of conversation. \"All these folks are going to have an opportunity to say, 'Yes, it’s fine,' or 'No, it’s not,' or 'These are the conditions under which you may.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ramirez says the PUC actually has a 15-year-old \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfwater.org/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=756\" target=\"_blank\">plan in place\u003c/a> to expand public access. By the end of next year, he hopes to provide unrestricted access to the \u003ca href=\"http://sfwater.org/index.aspx?page=147\" target=\"_blank\">Fifield-Cahill Ridge Trail\u003c/a>, which runs parallel to the Crystal Springs Trail, but is only available to see with a docent. Thanks to a $1 million grant from the \u003ca href=\"http://scc.ca.gov/\" target=\"_blank\">California Coastal Conservancy\u003c/a>, Ramirez hopes to begin work next year on a new six-mile trail from Highway 92 to the redwood groves of \u003ca href=\"http://www.parksconservancy.org/visit/park-sites/phleger-estate.html\" target=\"_blank\">Phleger Estate\u003c/a>, a Golden Gate National Recreation Area property north of Woodside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10474106\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10474106 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-400x400.jpg\" alt='\"There’s a lot of details that need to be sorted out,\" says Watershed Manager Tim Ramirez of the SF PUC, \"but the intention is to provide a little less restriction and a little more access.\"' width=\"400\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-400x400.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-800x800.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-1440x1440.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-1180x1180.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-768x768.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-320x320.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-32x32.jpg 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-64x64.jpg 64w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-96x96.jpg 96w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-128x128.jpg 128w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-75x75.jpg 75w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">\"There’s a lot of details that need to be sorted out,\" says Watershed Manager Tim Ramirez of the SF PUC, \"but the intention is to provide a little less restriction and a little more access.\" \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The folks with Open the SF Watershed would prefer the peninsula follow the wide-open access model of \u003ca href=\"http://www.marinwater.org/188/Visiting-Watershed-Lands\" target=\"_blank\">the Marin Municipal Water District\u003c/a>. Most of Marin’s 22,000 acres are open. \u003ca href=\"http://www.marinwater.org/357/Mt-Tamalpais-Visitor-Use-Census-and-Surv\" target=\"_blank\">1.8 million people\u003c/a> visit each year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But other utilities are more conservative. Like the \u003ca href=\"http://www.ebmud.com/recreation/east-bay-trails\" target=\"_blank\">East Bay Municipal Utility District\u003c/a>. EBMUD Watershed manager Scott Hill gets 50,000 visitors a year and they all have to apply for permits. \"I don’t think that it’s appropriate to open up all areas of the watershed to public access.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hill says inviting more people in boosts all kinds of risks: fires, poaching, disturbing sensitive habitat and more. Those concerns are shared by the \u003ca href=\"http://www.lomaprieta.sierraclub.org/\" target=\"_blank\">Loma Prieta Chapter\u003c/a> of the Sierra Club and the\u003ca href=\"http://www.greenfoothills.org/\" target=\"_blank\"> Committee for Green Foothills.\u003c/a> Lennie Roberts of the committee sees no reason to change the status quo on the Peninsula.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We have a lot of trails already,\" Roberts says. \"I think it would be great if the PUC expanded the docent program [on the Fifield-Cahill Ridge Trail] to seven days a week.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite Hill’s reservations, he sees a big benefit to public access, too. People who get to enjoy the watershed want to protect it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You do develop this constituency that has a proprietary attitude in the watershed and a sense of stewardship,\" Hill says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Bay Area utilities started buying up land decades ago, open space was everywhere. Now, the watersheds are some of the biggest islands of green in the region -- visual relief in a sea of concrete and steel as the peninsula becomes more crowded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10474104\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-10474104\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"That carpet of lush trees are not native to the watershed! Tim Ramirez of the SF PUC says they were planted about 150 years ago by ranchers, often as wind breaks. What would this place look like without human intervention? Grassland.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-400x300.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-1440x1080.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-768x576.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-320x240.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">That carpet of lush trees is not native to the watershed! Tim Ramirez of the SF PUC says they were planted about 150 years ago by ranchers, often as wind breaks. What would this place look like without human intervention? Grassland. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Open the SF Watershed is pushing for the SF PUC to open up more of its 23,000 acres to the public.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1428083068,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":1097},"headData":{"title":"Hikers, Bikers Press for More Public Trails in Peninsula Watershed | KQED","description":"Open the SF Watershed is pushing for the SF PUC to open up more of its 23,000 acres to the public.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Hikers, Bikers Press for More Public Trails in Peninsula Watershed","datePublished":"2015-04-02T13:30:17.000Z","dateModified":"2015-04-03T17:44:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"10472738 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10472738","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/04/02/hikers-bikers-press-for-more-public-trails-in-peninsula-watershed/","disqusTitle":"Hikers, Bikers Press for More Public Trails in Peninsula Watershed","path":"/news/10472738/hikers-bikers-press-for-more-public-trails-in-peninsula-watershed","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Commuters on Interstate Highway 280 see it to the west every day. Rolling green hills carpeted with trees, stunning cloud formations along the ridge line, and down below, sparkling blue reservoirs. This green stretches all the way from Pacifica to Highway 84. First you ask, “What IS that?” Then you ask, “How do I get IN there?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's a watershed for the \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfwater.org/index.aspx?page=199\" target=\"_blank\">San Francisco Public Utilities Commission\u003c/a>, and most of it is not open to the public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Supervisors, led by Supervisor John Avalos, have started talking about expanding access to more trails. The \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfbos.org/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=51976\" target=\"_blank\">agenda item\u003c/a>, which is not expected to lead to an immediate vote, comes at the prompting of a group called \u003ca href=\"http://www.openthewatershed.org/\" target=\"_blank\">Open the SF Watershed\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cdiv class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__shortcodes__shortcodeWrapper'>\n \u003ciframe width='100%' height='166'\n scrolling='no' frameborder='no'\n src='https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/198926725&visual=true&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false'\n title='https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/198926725'>\n \u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/div>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are 31 miles of public trails between Highway 280 and the reservoirs. The \u003ca href=\"https://parks.smcgov.org/crystal-springs-regional-trail\" target=\"_blank\">Crystal Springs Regional Trail\u003c/a> system is paved and popular -- 325,000 people visit a year. But Open the SF Watershed wants more, as group member Charlie Krenz explains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The watershed is massive,\" Krenz says. \"It’s 23,000 acres. It’s really the heart of the Northern Peninsula’s wilderness area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He's put together a video with helpful visuals about what Open the SF Watershed wants to see happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/aeJUmANEAiU'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/aeJUmANEAiU'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Krenz is a board member with the \u003ca href=\"www.ltcwd.org\" target=\"_blank\">Los Trancos County Water District\u003c/a> on the Peninsula, as well as with \u003ca href=\"http://www.svmtb.org/\" target=\"_blank\">Silicon Valley Mountain Bikers\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wants the land west of the reservoirs opened to hikers, bikers and equestrians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For hiking, it’s going to be beautiful, but it also lends itself to mountain biking because it’s so big,\" Krenz says. \"People will definitely hike it, but the distances really lend themselves to mountain bikes.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He adds, \"It’s one of the most spectacular coastlines that exists.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brian Coyne agrees. He writes about mountain biking for the San Francisco Chronicle. One of Coyne’s headlines last year: “\u003ca href=\"http://blog.sfgate.com/bicycle/2014/10/04/the-best-bay-area-bike-trails-youre-not-allowed-to-ride/\" target=\"_blank\">The Best Bay Area bike trails you’re not allowed to ride.\u003c/a>”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coyne insists, \"For public land, there should be a presumption in favor of public access,\" adding there are already established trails and roads on the land in question. \"We’re not requesting that any new trails or roads be built. It’s all already there. So really it’s a matter of just physically opening the gates.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10474112\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-10474112\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-400x300.jpg\" alt='The Spring Valley Water Company owned and operated the watershed until 1930. Brian Coyne of Open the SF Watershed laments, \"When the land was owned by a private company, you were allowed in, but when it was purchased by a public agency, the public was kicked out.\"' width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-400x300.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-1440x1080.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-768x576.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut-320x240.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14689_watershed-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Spring Valley Water Company owned and operated the watershed until 1930. Brian Coyne of Open the SF Watershed laments, \"When the land was owned by a private company, you were allowed in, but when it was purchased by a public agency, the public was kicked out.\" \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Well, it’s not exactly that simple. Tim Ramirez manages the Crystal Springs watershed for the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission. He says the public has no idea of the complex of bureaucracies operating behind those gates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They just look at hiking trails,\" Ramirez says. \"They look at where the trail goes. They don’t look at who owns the land.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not just the PUC that regulates the watershed. So do agencies at every level: city, county, state and federal. It's even part of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.unesco.org/mabdb/br/brdir/directory/biores.asp?mode=all&code=USA+42\" target=\"_blank\">UNESCO Golden Gate Biosphere Reserve\u003c/a>. A lot of protected plants and animals call this place home, including the marbled murrelet, the fountain thistle and Marin Dwarf Flax. Ramirez says \u003cem>nothing \u003c/em>happens here without a lot of conversation. \"All these folks are going to have an opportunity to say, 'Yes, it’s fine,' or 'No, it’s not,' or 'These are the conditions under which you may.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ramirez says the PUC actually has a 15-year-old \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfwater.org/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=756\" target=\"_blank\">plan in place\u003c/a> to expand public access. By the end of next year, he hopes to provide unrestricted access to the \u003ca href=\"http://sfwater.org/index.aspx?page=147\" target=\"_blank\">Fifield-Cahill Ridge Trail\u003c/a>, which runs parallel to the Crystal Springs Trail, but is only available to see with a docent. Thanks to a $1 million grant from the \u003ca href=\"http://scc.ca.gov/\" target=\"_blank\">California Coastal Conservancy\u003c/a>, Ramirez hopes to begin work next year on a new six-mile trail from Highway 92 to the redwood groves of \u003ca href=\"http://www.parksconservancy.org/visit/park-sites/phleger-estate.html\" target=\"_blank\">Phleger Estate\u003c/a>, a Golden Gate National Recreation Area property north of Woodside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10474106\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10474106 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-400x400.jpg\" alt='\"There’s a lot of details that need to be sorted out,\" says Watershed Manager Tim Ramirez of the SF PUC, \"but the intention is to provide a little less restriction and a little more access.\"' width=\"400\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-400x400.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-800x800.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-1440x1440.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-1180x1180.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-768x768.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-320x320.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-32x32.jpg 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-64x64.jpg 64w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-96x96.jpg 96w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-128x128.jpg 128w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut-75x75.jpg 75w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14686_timramirez-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">\"There’s a lot of details that need to be sorted out,\" says Watershed Manager Tim Ramirez of the SF PUC, \"but the intention is to provide a little less restriction and a little more access.\" \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The folks with Open the SF Watershed would prefer the peninsula follow the wide-open access model of \u003ca href=\"http://www.marinwater.org/188/Visiting-Watershed-Lands\" target=\"_blank\">the Marin Municipal Water District\u003c/a>. Most of Marin’s 22,000 acres are open. \u003ca href=\"http://www.marinwater.org/357/Mt-Tamalpais-Visitor-Use-Census-and-Surv\" target=\"_blank\">1.8 million people\u003c/a> visit each year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But other utilities are more conservative. Like the \u003ca href=\"http://www.ebmud.com/recreation/east-bay-trails\" target=\"_blank\">East Bay Municipal Utility District\u003c/a>. EBMUD Watershed manager Scott Hill gets 50,000 visitors a year and they all have to apply for permits. \"I don’t think that it’s appropriate to open up all areas of the watershed to public access.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hill says inviting more people in boosts all kinds of risks: fires, poaching, disturbing sensitive habitat and more. Those concerns are shared by the \u003ca href=\"http://www.lomaprieta.sierraclub.org/\" target=\"_blank\">Loma Prieta Chapter\u003c/a> of the Sierra Club and the\u003ca href=\"http://www.greenfoothills.org/\" target=\"_blank\"> Committee for Green Foothills.\u003c/a> Lennie Roberts of the committee sees no reason to change the status quo on the Peninsula.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We have a lot of trails already,\" Roberts says. \"I think it would be great if the PUC expanded the docent program [on the Fifield-Cahill Ridge Trail] to seven days a week.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite Hill’s reservations, he sees a big benefit to public access, too. People who get to enjoy the watershed want to protect it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You do develop this constituency that has a proprietary attitude in the watershed and a sense of stewardship,\" Hill says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Bay Area utilities started buying up land decades ago, open space was everywhere. Now, the watersheds are some of the biggest islands of green in the region -- visual relief in a sea of concrete and steel as the peninsula becomes more crowded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10474104\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-10474104\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"That carpet of lush trees are not native to the watershed! Tim Ramirez of the SF PUC says they were planted about 150 years ago by ranchers, often as wind breaks. What would this place look like without human intervention? Grassland.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-400x300.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-1440x1080.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-768x576.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut-320x240.jpg 320w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/04/RS14688_trees-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">That carpet of lush trees is not native to the watershed! Tim Ramirez of the SF PUC says they were planted about 150 years ago by ranchers, often as wind breaks. What would this place look like without human intervention? Grassland. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/10472738/hikers-bikers-press-for-more-public-trails-in-peninsula-watershed","authors":["251"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_19906","news_13","news_10"],"tags":["news_295","news_17925","news_2780","news_1259"],"featImg":"news_10474037","label":"news_6944"},"news_10341472":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10341472","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10341472","score":null,"sort":[1394213192000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"san-mateo-bocce-club-hopes-to-keep-tradition-alive","title":"San Mateo Bocce Club Hopes to Keep Tradition Alive","publishDate":1394213192,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2014/03/20140307etcrmag.mp3\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sport of bocce ball is played all over the world. In Northern California, it has traditionally been an Italian game, but as the community of Italian immigrants continues to shrink, one San Mateo social club is struggling to keep the tradition alive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Wednesday nights it’s league play at the \u003ca href=\"http://www.peninsulasocialclub.org/index.php#\" target=\"_blank\">Peninsula Italian American Social Club\u003c/a>. Two dozen people fill the echo-prone hall that houses the club’s two bocce courts. One wall is painted to look like the view from a Tuscan veranda -- with stone archways and rolling hills. The other is covered with team photos dating back to the ‘70s when the bocce league first got started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tonight, Nerina DiBella’s team is winning. She stands at one end of a court made of sand and crushed oyster shells that’s a little shorter than a bowling lane. “Come on, Bruno! Come on, come on!” she shouts, bracing as her teammate takes a shot. It’s green team versus red team, and DiBella is watching Bruno try to roll his green balls closer to the pallino -- the little white ball that’s their target. “It’s a good one,” she says. “He’s going to make it. Done!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Teams play year-round at the club. These aren’t pros. In fact, most of the players are in their 70s, and they don’t play for big prizes. They play for fun -- mostly. “Sometimes you play for a dollar here and you’d think their life was riding on it,” says Joseph Lencioni, aka Joe, the resident jokester. “They get down on their knees and they’re checking it and they’re like, ‘Don’t touch it’ and oh boy!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mario Conti runs the league. “Just because you’re Italian doesn’t make you a good bocce player, let me tell you,” he says, “It’s like any other game – either you have it or you don’t.” Being Italian does help get you into this social club. When it was started in the ‘30s it was called the \u003ca href=\"http://www.peninsulasocialclub.org/index.php/component/content/article?id=2\" target=\"_blank\">New Deal Italian American Federation\u003c/a>. At first they held meetings in members’ basements. Now it’s mostly a place where people socialize at dinners and cultural events.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mario and his wife, Nella, were born in Italy and grew up in the Bay Area. Nella Conti remembers the South San Francisco of her childhood as a tight-knit Italian community. The city was completely Italian, she says, “It was like being in Italy almost. It was great.” Mario Conti remembers it the same way. “You go to the bank, everyone spoke Italian,” he says. “Just like now you walk downtown South San Francisco, everyone speaks Spanish.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Contis say the social club keeps them tied to their roots, to their families and to their dwindling Italian American community here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Alberto Biancalana, who’s originally from Lucca, Italy, this club is one of the best in the Bay Area. He points out that the club has more than 800 members, and it’s just one of many in the area. But they’re all in trouble if young people don’t show interest. “If the young people don’t come in, we are an endangered species,” he says. “If the young people don’t carry on with the tradition, what are you gonna do? Everything’s gonna end, see.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, on this night, there were no young players in sight, but Biancalana is hopeful that it will change. “I bet you my son would like to play if he ever felt like coming here to try,” he says. “Because that’s what it takes -- it takes a little bit to try and then you get hooked.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nerina DiBella watches as her teammate is inches from hitting the pallino.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We got 2 points now!” she says. “This is it -- it’s game! We won both games. We did it, Bruno!”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Club seeks new members and wider appeal for traditionally Italian game as that population shrinks.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1412122471,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":731},"headData":{"title":"San Mateo Bocce Club Hopes to Keep Tradition Alive | KQED","description":"Club seeks new members and wider appeal for traditionally Italian game as that population shrinks.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"San Mateo Bocce Club Hopes to Keep Tradition Alive","datePublished":"2014-03-07T17:26:32.000Z","dateModified":"2014-10-01T00:14:31.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"10341472 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10141472","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/03/07/san-mateo-bocce-club-hopes-to-keep-tradition-alive/","disqusTitle":"San Mateo Bocce Club Hopes to Keep Tradition Alive","nprByline":"Vanessa Rancaño","path":"/news/10341472/san-mateo-bocce-club-hopes-to-keep-tradition-alive","audioUrl":"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2014/03/20140307etcrmag.mp3","audioDuration":null,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audioLink","attributes":{"named":{"src":"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2014/03/20140307etcrmag.mp3"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The sport of bocce ball is played all over the world. In Northern California, it has traditionally been an Italian game, but as the community of Italian immigrants continues to shrink, one San Mateo social club is struggling to keep the tradition alive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Wednesday nights it’s league play at the \u003ca href=\"http://www.peninsulasocialclub.org/index.php#\" target=\"_blank\">Peninsula Italian American Social Club\u003c/a>. Two dozen people fill the echo-prone hall that houses the club’s two bocce courts. One wall is painted to look like the view from a Tuscan veranda -- with stone archways and rolling hills. The other is covered with team photos dating back to the ‘70s when the bocce league first got started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tonight, Nerina DiBella’s team is winning. She stands at one end of a court made of sand and crushed oyster shells that’s a little shorter than a bowling lane. “Come on, Bruno! Come on, come on!” she shouts, bracing as her teammate takes a shot. It’s green team versus red team, and DiBella is watching Bruno try to roll his green balls closer to the pallino -- the little white ball that’s their target. “It’s a good one,” she says. “He’s going to make it. Done!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Teams play year-round at the club. These aren’t pros. In fact, most of the players are in their 70s, and they don’t play for big prizes. 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When it was started in the ‘30s it was called the \u003ca href=\"http://www.peninsulasocialclub.org/index.php/component/content/article?id=2\" target=\"_blank\">New Deal Italian American Federation\u003c/a>. At first they held meetings in members’ basements. Now it’s mostly a place where people socialize at dinners and cultural events.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mario and his wife, Nella, were born in Italy and grew up in the Bay Area. Nella Conti remembers the South San Francisco of her childhood as a tight-knit Italian community. The city was completely Italian, she says, “It was like being in Italy almost. It was great.” Mario Conti remembers it the same way. “You go to the bank, everyone spoke Italian,” he says. “Just like now you walk downtown South San Francisco, everyone speaks Spanish.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Contis say the social club keeps them tied to their roots, to their families and to their dwindling Italian American community here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Alberto Biancalana, who’s originally from Lucca, Italy, this club is one of the best in the Bay Area. He points out that the club has more than 800 members, and it’s just one of many in the area. But they’re all in trouble if young people don’t show interest. “If the young people don’t come in, we are an endangered species,” he says. “If the young people don’t carry on with the tradition, what are you gonna do? Everything’s gonna end, see.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, on this night, there were no young players in sight, but Biancalana is hopeful that it will change. “I bet you my son would like to play if he ever felt like coming here to try,” he says. “Because that’s what it takes -- it takes a little bit to try and then you get hooked.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nerina DiBella watches as her teammate is inches from hitting the pallino.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We got 2 points now!” she says. “This is it -- it’s game! We won both games. We did it, Bruno!”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/10341472/san-mateo-bocce-club-hopes-to-keep-tradition-alive","authors":["byline_news_10341472"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_223"],"tags":["news_1259"],"featImg":"news_10341475","label":"news_72"},"news_24231":{"type":"posts","id":"news_24231","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"24231","score":null,"sort":[1303165523000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"peninsula-lawmakers-want-high-speed-rail-to-run-on-caltrain-tracks","title":"Peninsula Lawmakers Want High-Speed Rail to Run on Caltrain Tracks","publishDate":1303165523,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Congresswoman Anna Eshoo and state Sen Joe Simitian of Palo Alto, and state Assemblyman Rich Gordon of Los Altos held a joint press conference today \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula/ci_17874555\">\u003cstrong>calling\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> for the California High-Speed Rail Authority to abandon plans to build elevated tracks through the Peninsula and instead integrate the project into the existing Caltrain system. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED's Kelly Wilkinson attended the press conference and fills us in:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/04/WilkinsonHSR.mp3\">\u003cem>Kelly Wilkinson on today's call for high-speed rail change by Peninsula officeholders\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n[audio:http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/04/WilkinsonHSR.mp3|titles=WilkinsonHSR]\u003cbr>\n\u003c!--more-->\u003cbr>\nRobert Cruickshank at the California High Speed Rail Blog has a \u003ca href=\"http://www.cahsrblog.com/2011/04/eshoo-simitian-gordon-oppose-aerial-structures/\">post\u003c/a> up about today's announcement. He's less than enthusiastic:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Big picture: Nobody here is showing real leadership. Eshoo, Simitian, and now Gordon have all been cowed by a small group of NIMBYs into opposing an aerial solution which, as we’ve talked about before, works perfectly well for other Bay Area communities such as Albany and Oakland’s Rockridge neighborhood. These three elected officials do realize that large majorities of their constituents support high speed rail and clearly they’re trying to find a middle ground between the vocal yet unrepresentative NIMBYs, and the silent majority who actually matter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of these proposals are worth considering, others might not be. 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