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If elected, she vowed to build bridges for traffic as well as “bridges to people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Lastly, I’m a very proud member of the LGBTQ community, and I am transgender,” Middleton, 71, concluded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Thad Kousser, political science professor, UC San Diego\"]‘There have been so many people who have been groundbreaking in their identity that now they have the freedom just to be public servants.’[/pullquote]“If I’m elected, I’ll be the first transgender person in the state Legislature. That’s not a reason to vote for me. But in California, it is time that we stand up and say anyone can run. Everyone has a chance.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton does have a chance, although she has her work cut out for her. She earned 46.2% of the vote in the newly constituted \u003ca href=\"https://pp.electionresults.sos.ca.gov/returns/state-senate/district/19\">state Senate District 19\u003c/a>, against incumbent \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/legislators/rosilicie-ochoa-bogh-165450\">Sen. Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh\u003c/a>’s 53.8%.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Middleton, Ochoa Bogh also knows something about breaking new ground in the Inland Empire. Since 2020, she has been the first Republican Latina lawmaker elected to the state Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their personal stories appear primed for a culture wars clash, but neither candidate is choosing that route. Instead they are campaigning on bread-and-butter issues, such as jobs, infrastructure and public safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t do theater; I don’t do drama,” Ochoa Bogh, 51, told CalMatters. “I will support policies that I think are good for people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With more than a dozen LGBTQ representatives in the state Legislature, sexual and gender identity may no longer be a key factor in California races.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That fits with where we are in California politics,” said Thad Kousser, a UC San Diego political science professor. “There have been so many people who have been groundbreaking in their identity that now they have the freedom just to be public servants.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Smart politics or culture clash?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If these candidates’ campaign strategies seem quaint in an era of partisan polarization, that may be smart politics for the district.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This district combines the liberal neighborhoods of Coachella Valley with conservative bedroom communities and industrial areas in San Bernardino County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the first time Inland Empire voters will cast ballots in this state Senate district, which was redrawn after the 2020 census. In a quirk of that process, it was designated a “deferred district,” with no elected senator since then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ochoa Bogh currently represents state Senate District 23, which partially overlaps with District 19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Voter registration in the new district has shifted from predominantly Republican in 2008 to a 1.5-point Democratic advantage, making for a competitive race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Bernardino County, Ochoa Bogh prevailed with about 63% of the vote, but in Riverside County Middleton led with 53%, according to \u003ca href=\"https://californiatargetbook.com/\">California Target Book\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not that every part of this district is purple; there’s blue and red mixed together,” Kousser said. “That makes political messaging really tricky. How do you come up with messages that work for commuter suburbs as well as Palm Springs?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a sense, Ochoa and Middleton’s messages aren’t that different. Both focus on quality of life, middle-class opportunity, and their life stories as examples of the American Dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982299\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11982299\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM.jpg\" alt='A woman stands behind a podium that says \"Fix California\" on the front with people in the background.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">State Sen. Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh (R-Yucaipa) addresses reporters about the public school system, during a press conference outside the 3rd District Court of Appeal building in Sacramento, on Jan. 25, 2023. \u003ccite>(Rahul Lal/Sipa USA via Reuters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Both candidates tout their working-class backgrounds, Ochoa Bogh as the daughter of Mexican immigrant parents and Middleton as the granddaughter of Dust Bowl refugees who settled in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"h-incumbent-experienced-homelessness\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Incumbent experienced homelessness\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Ochoa Bogh’s childhood included moves to California, Hawaii, Florida and Mexico. Once she lived with her mother and sister in a single room of an apartment shared with another family, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we talk about homelessness, not having a place to live, I know what that’s like,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She earned an undergraduate degree from UC Santa Barbara in 1996, then worked as a teacher and later a real estate agent while raising her young children. Volunteer work at her children’s school led to a seat on the Yucaipa-Calimesa Joint Unified School District Board and then election to state Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wasn’t very politically engaged, but I was very civically engaged,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state Legislature offered a crash course in partisan politics. Shortly after her election she discovered the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article269771152.html\">California Latino Legislative Caucus\u003c/a>, but learned that Republicans weren’t welcome in the group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the Legislature, there’s a lot of talk about diversity, inclusion,” Ochoa Bogh said, “but only if you think their way. If you think differently, you’re vilified.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In her first term, Ochoa Bogh has \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills?author%5B%5D=165450\">passed about a dozen bills,\u003c/a> but her proposals to notify criminal defendants of possible murder charges for \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb44\">fentanyl-related deaths\u003c/a> and to increase penalties for \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb316\">shoplifters\u003c/a> failed to pass. This session she’s revisiting fentanyl addiction with bipartisan bills to \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb1468?slug=CA_202320240SB1468\">expedite drug treatment\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb1442\">provide fentanyl tests\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She’s very thoughtful, and does the very best job she can to represent the entire district, and make sure she listens to all of her constituents,” said Brian Jones, the Republican state Senate minority leader from San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Challenger grew up in union household\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Middleton grew up in the city of Bell Gardens, in Los Angeles County, where she said her blue-collar parents entered the middle class through union jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982290\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11982290\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20.jpg\" alt=\"A white woman wearing glasses and a blue jacket sits down with books in the background.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lisa Middleton, Palm Springs City Council member, at the Four Seasons in Beaumont on March 27, 2024. \u003ccite>(Elisa Ferrari/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She earned a BA from UCLA, then a master’s in public administration from the University of Southern California, she said. During a 36-year career with the State Compensation Insurance Fund, which administers workers’ compensation, she served as an auditor, claims officer and executive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You don’t get what you pay for; you get what you audit,” she told the Pass Democratic Club members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton made her gender transition in 1995 and said her biggest cheerleaders were her two children from a previous marriage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was a lifelong struggle that I finally accepted myself as who I was,” she said, “and I have been very fortunate in coming out to have been one of those folks who continued to have opportunities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those opportunities expanded after she left her state job, moved to the desert and swapped what she expected to be a quiet retirement for a planning commission position. She later became a council member and mayor of Palm Springs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She ticks off her accomplishments in that role: boosting salaries for Palm Springs police and fire departments, expanding the city’s financial reserves, and supporting the renovation of restaurants and small businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton is “literally one of the best elected officials I have worked with” over 40 years of policing, said Palm Springs Police Chief Andrew Mills. He credits her with helping improve retention and morale in the department, which led to the local police association endorsing her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The officers as well have a lot of confidence in her as an elected official, and that’s kind of rare,” he said. “But she’s that calming voice that tries to bring people together, rather than find the extremes and push people apart.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Senate candidates clash on environment\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For all their emphasis on the political middle ground, Ochoa and Middleton offer some sharp contrasts on environmental and social issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To Middleton, renewable energy projects such as wind and solar are win-win solutions that fight climate change and help union workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Building out those industries is an opportunity for us to have well-paying jobs,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not so fast, said Ochoa Bogh, who argues that there’s a downside to renewable energy projects that raise the price of energy or require adoption of costly electric fleets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982298\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11982298\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01.jpg\" alt=\"A woman wearing all black holds a microphone and stands behind a podium.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1353\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-800x541.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-1020x690.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-160x108.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-1536x1039.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-1920x1299.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">California State Sen. Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh speaks during the opening for Rep. Ken Calvert’s office in Palm Desert, on Jan. 13, 2024. \u003ccite>(Andy Abeyta/The Desert Sun via Reuters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Who doesn’t want to be green?” she asked. “But all of those goals have a huge financial impact on working Californians, and nobody talks about that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton also points to differences in their positions on abortion, noting she supports California’s stance as a haven for reproductive freedom, including abortion rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ochoa Bogh did not state her position on abortion, but she has \u003ca href=\"https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/188758/rosilicie-ochoa-bogh?categoryId=2&type=V,S,R,E,F,P\">opposed bills aimed at reinforcing abortion rights\u003c/a> in California and has received a 0% rating from Planned Parenthood and a 100% rating from the California Pro-Life Council.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both candidates identified \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/08/parental-rights-california/\">parental rights\u003c/a> as key to their campaigns, but they appear to diverge on what that means.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For activists and lawmakers on the right, parental rights has focused on shielding students from what they consider to be inappropriate or sexually explicit materials, and notifying parents of changes to their children’s sexual or gender identities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many on the left believe parental rights includes the ability to honor their children’s choices and expose them to diverse educational material.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although she didn’t elaborate on her position, Ochoa Bogh \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb1435\">authored a bill\u003c/a> that would ban elementary and middle schools and libraries from offering what the bill defines as obscene material. Last year she also \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240ab1078?slug=CA_202320240AB1078\">voted against\u003c/a> the new law that requires a supermajority of school board members to ban books and provides a process for parents to appeal those decisions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton argues that parents of transgender and LGBTQ children are being disenfranchised in other states by laws restricting their options for care and treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Parents are being told ‘you cannot make decisions for your child,’” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Who can motivate Inland Empire voters?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In the closely divided district, the race will hinge not only on whose message resonates, but also who can turn out their party base.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The opportunities are with us, doing the canvassing, texting, phone-banking and just having the boots on the ground,” said Jim Mercado, president of the Pass Democratic Club.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ochoa Bogh says she doesn’t stop with her own base but knocks on doors of Democratic and No Party Preference voters as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have no problem reaching out to them, because to me it’s about discussing ideas,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a Republican, Ochoa Bogh maintains she can provide a counterweight to the Democratic supermajority, while also finding common ground.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She’s done a very good job advocating for the conservative principles that she believes in, while also being effective at building relationships across the aisle,” Jones said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the Democratic Club meeting, Beaumont City Councilmember Julio Martinez agreed that Ochoa Bogh has worked well with local governments, but he worried that minority party members are at a disadvantage in state budget talks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For our region, how do we get our fair share of the money the state gives out?” he asked. “How much influence can a Republican have in this state?”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Cash, demographics and identity\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For now, Ochoa Bogh has an overwhelming campaign cash advantage with $605,677 and has raised more than \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/legislators/rosilicie-ochoa-bogh-165450#financials\">double the average\u003c/a> for state legislators, based on her most recent campaign finance report. Meanwhile Middleton’s campaign reported a cash balance of $53,053.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It remains to be seen how the candidates’ identities will intersect with the district’s demographics. About 38% of the electorate is Latino, and Ochoa Bogh believes her focus on education and business appeals to them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think I have a pretty strong hold on the Latino vote,” she said. “But I don’t take that for granted, which is why I knock on the doors.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If elected, Middleton would not only be the first transgender state legislator in California, but she’d be among only a handful in the country, said Sean Meloy, vice president of political programs for the Victory Fund, which helps elect LGBTQ politicians nationwide and is supporting her campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first was \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/26/1094870343/danica-roems-new-book-shares-her-journey-from-closet-case-trans-girl-to-legislat\">Danica Roem\u003c/a>, sworn in to the Virginia House of Delegates in 2018, followed by \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/06/26/1184291582/sarah-mcbride-transgender-congress\">Sarah McBride\u003c/a>, a Delaware state senator now running for Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meloy expects voters in Coachella Valley’s substantial LGBTQ community will be galvanized by Middleton’s historic race for state Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think in a place like Palm Springs there is a higher amount of LGBTQ people, and they’re yearning for some representation in the state Legislature,” he said. “And Lisa is a community leader with proven results who offers that opportunity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982289\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11982289\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02.jpg\" alt=\"A group of people seated inside a building.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Members of the Pass Democratic Club during a meeting at the Four Seasons in Beaumont on March 27, 2024. \u003ccite>(Elisa Ferrari/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She also enjoys the synergy of campaigning alongside other LGBTQ Democratic candidates in the region, including Will Rollins, a former federal prosecutor challenging incumbent Rep. Ken Calvert for the 41st Congressional District, and Palm Springs Mayor Christy Holstedge, who is running for the 47th Assembly District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far Meloy said Middleton has not been subjected to attacks on her gender identity, adding he hopes that civility continues as the race heats up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton said she and her opponent have agreed to run “honestly and respectfully,” focusing on policy differences. For her part, Ochoa Bogh says that anti-LGBTQ rhetoric will play no part in her campaign strategy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can win this without vilifying my opponent,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>For the record: The story was updated to reflect that Middleton, if elected, would be among only a handful of state legislators in the country who is transgender. The source quoted in the story originally said Middleton would be one of three, but information obtained later indicates there may be more.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The two candidates seeking to become state senator for a new Inland Empire district say they’re avoiding culture war clashes to focus on bread-and-butter issues.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1712685932,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":72,"wordCount":2461},"headData":{"title":"California's Inland Empire District to Choose Between GOP Latina and Transgender Democrat for State Senate | KQED","description":"The two candidates seeking to become state senator for a new Inland Empire district say they’re avoiding culture war clashes to focus on bread-and-butter issues.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California's Inland Empire District to Choose Between GOP Latina and Transgender Democrat for State Senate","datePublished":"2024-04-09T11:00:41.000Z","dateModified":"2024-04-09T18:05:32.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/author/deborah-brennan/\">Deborah Brennan\u003c/a>","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11982269/californias-inland-empire-district-to-choose-between-gop-latina-and-transgender-democrat-for-state-senate","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Soon after the March primary, state Senate candidate Lisa Middleton pitched her vision for Inland Empire transportation to the Pass Democratic Club in Beaumont.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve not built the roadways we need to serve the growing population,” she said, referring to chronic congestion on Interstate 10.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton, a Palm Springs City Council member and former mayor, won applause describing how she secured $50 million for a storm-damaged bridge in Palm Springs. If elected, she vowed to build bridges for traffic as well as “bridges to people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Lastly, I’m a very proud member of the LGBTQ community, and I am transgender,” Middleton, 71, concluded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘There have been so many people who have been groundbreaking in their identity that now they have the freedom just to be public servants.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Thad Kousser, political science professor, UC San Diego","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“If I’m elected, I’ll be the first transgender person in the state Legislature. That’s not a reason to vote for me. But in California, it is time that we stand up and say anyone can run. Everyone has a chance.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton does have a chance, although she has her work cut out for her. She earned 46.2% of the vote in the newly constituted \u003ca href=\"https://pp.electionresults.sos.ca.gov/returns/state-senate/district/19\">state Senate District 19\u003c/a>, against incumbent \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/legislators/rosilicie-ochoa-bogh-165450\">Sen. Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh\u003c/a>’s 53.8%.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Middleton, Ochoa Bogh also knows something about breaking new ground in the Inland Empire. Since 2020, she has been the first Republican Latina lawmaker elected to the state Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their personal stories appear primed for a culture wars clash, but neither candidate is choosing that route. Instead they are campaigning on bread-and-butter issues, such as jobs, infrastructure and public safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t do theater; I don’t do drama,” Ochoa Bogh, 51, told CalMatters. “I will support policies that I think are good for people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With more than a dozen LGBTQ representatives in the state Legislature, sexual and gender identity may no longer be a key factor in California races.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That fits with where we are in California politics,” said Thad Kousser, a UC San Diego political science professor. “There have been so many people who have been groundbreaking in their identity that now they have the freedom just to be public servants.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Smart politics or culture clash?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If these candidates’ campaign strategies seem quaint in an era of partisan polarization, that may be smart politics for the district.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This district combines the liberal neighborhoods of Coachella Valley with conservative bedroom communities and industrial areas in San Bernardino County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the first time Inland Empire voters will cast ballots in this state Senate district, which was redrawn after the 2020 census. In a quirk of that process, it was designated a “deferred district,” with no elected senator since then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ochoa Bogh currently represents state Senate District 23, which partially overlaps with District 19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Voter registration in the new district has shifted from predominantly Republican in 2008 to a 1.5-point Democratic advantage, making for a competitive race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Bernardino County, Ochoa Bogh prevailed with about 63% of the vote, but in Riverside County Middleton led with 53%, according to \u003ca href=\"https://californiatargetbook.com/\">California Target Book\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not that every part of this district is purple; there’s blue and red mixed together,” Kousser said. “That makes political messaging really tricky. How do you come up with messages that work for commuter suburbs as well as Palm Springs?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a sense, Ochoa and Middleton’s messages aren’t that different. Both focus on quality of life, middle-class opportunity, and their life stories as examples of the American Dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982299\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11982299\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM.jpg\" alt='A woman stands behind a podium that says \"Fix California\" on the front with people in the background.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/012523-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">State Sen. Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh (R-Yucaipa) addresses reporters about the public school system, during a press conference outside the 3rd District Court of Appeal building in Sacramento, on Jan. 25, 2023. \u003ccite>(Rahul Lal/Sipa USA via Reuters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Both candidates tout their working-class backgrounds, Ochoa Bogh as the daughter of Mexican immigrant parents and Middleton as the granddaughter of Dust Bowl refugees who settled in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"h-incumbent-experienced-homelessness\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Incumbent experienced homelessness\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Ochoa Bogh’s childhood included moves to California, Hawaii, Florida and Mexico. Once she lived with her mother and sister in a single room of an apartment shared with another family, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we talk about homelessness, not having a place to live, I know what that’s like,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She earned an undergraduate degree from UC Santa Barbara in 1996, then worked as a teacher and later a real estate agent while raising her young children. Volunteer work at her children’s school led to a seat on the Yucaipa-Calimesa Joint Unified School District Board and then election to state Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wasn’t very politically engaged, but I was very civically engaged,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state Legislature offered a crash course in partisan politics. Shortly after her election she discovered the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article269771152.html\">California Latino Legislative Caucus\u003c/a>, but learned that Republicans weren’t welcome in the group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the Legislature, there’s a lot of talk about diversity, inclusion,” Ochoa Bogh said, “but only if you think their way. If you think differently, you’re vilified.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In her first term, Ochoa Bogh has \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills?author%5B%5D=165450\">passed about a dozen bills,\u003c/a> but her proposals to notify criminal defendants of possible murder charges for \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb44\">fentanyl-related deaths\u003c/a> and to increase penalties for \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb316\">shoplifters\u003c/a> failed to pass. This session she’s revisiting fentanyl addiction with bipartisan bills to \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb1468?slug=CA_202320240SB1468\">expedite drug treatment\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb1442\">provide fentanyl tests\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She’s very thoughtful, and does the very best job she can to represent the entire district, and make sure she listens to all of her constituents,” said Brian Jones, the Republican state Senate minority leader from San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Challenger grew up in union household\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Middleton grew up in the city of Bell Gardens, in Los Angeles County, where she said her blue-collar parents entered the middle class through union jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982290\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11982290\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20.jpg\" alt=\"A white woman wearing glasses and a blue jacket sits down with books in the background.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_20-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lisa Middleton, Palm Springs City Council member, at the Four Seasons in Beaumont on March 27, 2024. \u003ccite>(Elisa Ferrari/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She earned a BA from UCLA, then a master’s in public administration from the University of Southern California, she said. During a 36-year career with the State Compensation Insurance Fund, which administers workers’ compensation, she served as an auditor, claims officer and executive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You don’t get what you pay for; you get what you audit,” she told the Pass Democratic Club members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton made her gender transition in 1995 and said her biggest cheerleaders were her two children from a previous marriage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was a lifelong struggle that I finally accepted myself as who I was,” she said, “and I have been very fortunate in coming out to have been one of those folks who continued to have opportunities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those opportunities expanded after she left her state job, moved to the desert and swapped what she expected to be a quiet retirement for a planning commission position. She later became a council member and mayor of Palm Springs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She ticks off her accomplishments in that role: boosting salaries for Palm Springs police and fire departments, expanding the city’s financial reserves, and supporting the renovation of restaurants and small businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton is “literally one of the best elected officials I have worked with” over 40 years of policing, said Palm Springs Police Chief Andrew Mills. He credits her with helping improve retention and morale in the department, which led to the local police association endorsing her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The officers as well have a lot of confidence in her as an elected official, and that’s kind of rare,” he said. “But she’s that calming voice that tries to bring people together, rather than find the extremes and push people apart.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Senate candidates clash on environment\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For all their emphasis on the political middle ground, Ochoa and Middleton offer some sharp contrasts on environmental and social issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To Middleton, renewable energy projects such as wind and solar are win-win solutions that fight climate change and help union workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Building out those industries is an opportunity for us to have well-paying jobs,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not so fast, said Ochoa Bogh, who argues that there’s a downside to renewable energy projects that raise the price of energy or require adoption of costly electric fleets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982298\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11982298\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01.jpg\" alt=\"A woman wearing all black holds a microphone and stands behind a podium.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1353\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-800x541.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-1020x690.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-160x108.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-1536x1039.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/011524-Rosilicie-Ochoa-Bogh-REUTERS-CM-01-1920x1299.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">California State Sen. Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh speaks during the opening for Rep. Ken Calvert’s office in Palm Desert, on Jan. 13, 2024. \u003ccite>(Andy Abeyta/The Desert Sun via Reuters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Who doesn’t want to be green?” she asked. “But all of those goals have a huge financial impact on working Californians, and nobody talks about that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton also points to differences in their positions on abortion, noting she supports California’s stance as a haven for reproductive freedom, including abortion rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ochoa Bogh did not state her position on abortion, but she has \u003ca href=\"https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/188758/rosilicie-ochoa-bogh?categoryId=2&type=V,S,R,E,F,P\">opposed bills aimed at reinforcing abortion rights\u003c/a> in California and has received a 0% rating from Planned Parenthood and a 100% rating from the California Pro-Life Council.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both candidates identified \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/08/parental-rights-california/\">parental rights\u003c/a> as key to their campaigns, but they appear to diverge on what that means.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For activists and lawmakers on the right, parental rights has focused on shielding students from what they consider to be inappropriate or sexually explicit materials, and notifying parents of changes to their children’s sexual or gender identities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many on the left believe parental rights includes the ability to honor their children’s choices and expose them to diverse educational material.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although she didn’t elaborate on her position, Ochoa Bogh \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240sb1435\">authored a bill\u003c/a> that would ban elementary and middle schools and libraries from offering what the bill defines as obscene material. Last year she also \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240ab1078?slug=CA_202320240AB1078\">voted against\u003c/a> the new law that requires a supermajority of school board members to ban books and provides a process for parents to appeal those decisions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton argues that parents of transgender and LGBTQ children are being disenfranchised in other states by laws restricting their options for care and treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Parents are being told ‘you cannot make decisions for your child,’” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Who can motivate Inland Empire voters?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In the closely divided district, the race will hinge not only on whose message resonates, but also who can turn out their party base.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The opportunities are with us, doing the canvassing, texting, phone-banking and just having the boots on the ground,” said Jim Mercado, president of the Pass Democratic Club.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ochoa Bogh says she doesn’t stop with her own base but knocks on doors of Democratic and No Party Preference voters as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have no problem reaching out to them, because to me it’s about discussing ideas,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a Republican, Ochoa Bogh maintains she can provide a counterweight to the Democratic supermajority, while also finding common ground.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She’s done a very good job advocating for the conservative principles that she believes in, while also being effective at building relationships across the aisle,” Jones said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the Democratic Club meeting, Beaumont City Councilmember Julio Martinez agreed that Ochoa Bogh has worked well with local governments, but he worried that minority party members are at a disadvantage in state budget talks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For our region, how do we get our fair share of the money the state gives out?” he asked. “How much influence can a Republican have in this state?”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Cash, demographics and identity\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For now, Ochoa Bogh has an overwhelming campaign cash advantage with $605,677 and has raised more than \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/legislators/rosilicie-ochoa-bogh-165450#financials\">double the average\u003c/a> for state legislators, based on her most recent campaign finance report. Meanwhile Middleton’s campaign reported a cash balance of $53,053.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It remains to be seen how the candidates’ identities will intersect with the district’s demographics. About 38% of the electorate is Latino, and Ochoa Bogh believes her focus on education and business appeals to them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think I have a pretty strong hold on the Latino vote,” she said. “But I don’t take that for granted, which is why I knock on the doors.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If elected, Middleton would not only be the first transgender state legislator in California, but she’d be among only a handful in the country, said Sean Meloy, vice president of political programs for the Victory Fund, which helps elect LGBTQ politicians nationwide and is supporting her campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first was \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/26/1094870343/danica-roems-new-book-shares-her-journey-from-closet-case-trans-girl-to-legislat\">Danica Roem\u003c/a>, sworn in to the Virginia House of Delegates in 2018, followed by \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/06/26/1184291582/sarah-mcbride-transgender-congress\">Sarah McBride\u003c/a>, a Delaware state senator now running for Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meloy expects voters in Coachella Valley’s substantial LGBTQ community will be galvanized by Middleton’s historic race for state Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think in a place like Palm Springs there is a higher amount of LGBTQ people, and they’re yearning for some representation in the state Legislature,” he said. “And Lisa is a community leader with proven results who offers that opportunity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982289\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11982289\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02.jpg\" alt=\"A group of people seated inside a building.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/032724_Inland-Empire-Election_EF_CM_02-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Members of the Pass Democratic Club during a meeting at the Four Seasons in Beaumont on March 27, 2024. \u003ccite>(Elisa Ferrari/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She also enjoys the synergy of campaigning alongside other LGBTQ Democratic candidates in the region, including Will Rollins, a former federal prosecutor challenging incumbent Rep. Ken Calvert for the 41st Congressional District, and Palm Springs Mayor Christy Holstedge, who is running for the 47th Assembly District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far Meloy said Middleton has not been subjected to attacks on her gender identity, adding he hopes that civility continues as the race heats up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Middleton said she and her opponent have agreed to run “honestly and respectfully,” focusing on policy differences. For her part, Ochoa Bogh says that anti-LGBTQ rhetoric will play no part in her campaign strategy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can win this without vilifying my opponent,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>For the record: The story was updated to reflect that Middleton, if elected, would be among only a handful of state legislators in the country who is transgender. The source quoted in the story originally said Middleton would be one of three, but information obtained later indicates there may be more.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11982269/californias-inland-empire-district-to-choose-between-gop-latina-and-transgender-democrat-for-state-senate","authors":["byline_news_11982269"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_176","news_3037","news_20003","news_2486"],"affiliates":["news_18481"],"featImg":"news_11982288","label":"news_18481"},"news_11960170":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11960170","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11960170","score":null,"sort":[1693994430000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"i-think-of-him-every-day-banko-browns-trans-family-remembers-him","title":"'I Think of Him Every Day': A Conversation With Banko Brown's Trans Family","publishDate":1693994430,"format":"audio","headTitle":"‘I Think of Him Every Day’: A Conversation With Banko Brown’s Trans Family | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11950796/banko-brown-family-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-walgreens-security-company\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Banko Brown\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> was a Black trans man who was shot and killed by a Walgreens security guard in late April. Today, KQED’s Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez interviews three members of Banko Brown’s community from the Young Women’s Freedom Center — Xavier Davenport, Kazani Kalani Finao, and Juju Pikes-Prince — about Brown’s life, and what they believe is necessary for trans people to be truly safe in San Francisco. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode was scored by producer Maria Esquinca.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC3000100033&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11953821/what-banko-browns-queer-trans-community-says-they-need-for-safety-joy-in-sf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What Banko Brown’s Queer, Trans Community Says They Need for Safety, Joy in SF\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. And welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. What is it going to take to make San Francisco truly safe for trans people? For one, stable housing. According to Our Trans Home SF, one out of two trans people in the city have been unhoused. 70% report being harassed while staying in homeless shelters, making one of the few choices for at least temporary housing unsafe for most trans people. Housing was a necessity that didn’t come easy for Banko Brown, a black trans man shot and killed by a Walgreens security guard on Market Street in April of this year. And for Brown’s chosen family, his queer community in San Francisco. His situation wasn’t unique, but an example of the worst case scenario when stable housing is out of reach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Homelessness is when you do not have rights to a space of your own. Banko never had a space of his own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>My colleague and reporter Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez sat down with Banko Brown’s shows and family to discuss life as a homeless queer person in San Francisco. Banko’s life before his death and what it’s going to take to truly make the city a safe place for queer and trans people. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>If you could just very briefly tell me a little bit about yourself. Introduce yourself to folks who are listening with your name, who you are, and your relation to Banko.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>Hello, my name is JuJu. I’m from the Young Woman’s Freedom Center. I’m a youth organizer. I officially met Banko maybe a year ago. But we have– we share relatives. His nieces and nephews are my little cousins. So, I’ve always known Banko, but we never spoke for about a year ago. And that’s when I introduced him to my sister. And he became my sister’s chosen child and I’m the auntie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>I’m Xavier. I met Banko through Young Woman’s Freedom Center. He became my mentee. And that was during the pandemic. We were focused on a lot of projects that were going to empower trans masculinity. I wanted to make sure we had a group during the pandemic, like a peer to peer support group, because the pandemic was very hard for a lot of Transmasculine folks. A lot of them were essential workers. A lot of them were creators that lost jobs. Some of them were sex workers that lost jobs. So my focus was to empower those people and make sure that they were heard. And so Banko would come to those groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>My name’s Kazani. I met Banko through Young Woman’s Freedom as well. We just had amazing, great conversations. Just always sparring with each other, bouncing back with, like, fun ideas. He uses a bright, outgoing apartment. Conversation was always immaculate, always amazing. Of he was a visionary. The struggle not only brought us together, but like I was able to, like, really build a relation with him based on, like, his gifts. He was very creative, his swag, his drip, like he was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me to like, you know, him, me younger to me, like I always share with him. Like, bro, you give me so much confidence, you give me so much courage for me to be me. He didn’t even know it. But again, he was just natural at that. Whatever I remember of him is his drips, sauce, smile, hugs, goofiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>All the jokes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Hell yeah, hell yeah. He funny, he hella funny. We always was direct. He pushed me to always have hard conversations. Be honest, being honest. And so to have that and to tell somebody yes, to hold me accountable, I’ll take that any day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Banko was in and out of homelessness. And I wonder if you could talk about what was – what the housing situation was like for Banko and what you saw him go through.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>When I first had met Banko, he was housed at some point. Then later on, when we lost another trans sister in the community, Ivory Nicole, that’s when, like, you know, stuff started to come out like, Oh, he’s looking for housing. He has nowhere to go. With only so much a person can do for an individual. It’s hard out here. I’ve been through. But for somebody to sleep on BART and got to blow time just to get it start today. If you go to the center, the $50 gift card or 25 gift card, no one’s gonna ever understand that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>And we were talking about sleeping on Bart. We’re talking about Banko Banko. You said he drifted in and out of it yourself. Can you talk a little bit about homelessness?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. As hard and it’s expensive. No matter way. Being homeless is still expensive. I was homeless for about two years, maybe a year or two years. I didn’t know what to do and it just wasn’t working out. We were living in McGuire. I thought his his parents were going to take a friend, but that wasn’t the case. Then even shelters. Shelters don’t protect you. Shelters don’t protect my people either. Stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out. People look at us like we’re nasty. So it’s things like that that we still have to navigate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Have you heard them say that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>Yeah. I mean, I’ve had problems at the outset and you can’t do nothing about it. You don’t lose this part. So it’s one of those things you got to say to sleep, wake up and do something productive. And so you get called for housing and permanent housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Xavier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Where do we start?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Well, it would then go first, and then we’ll go on to your own experiences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Banko never had a space of his own. Banko had been in and out of shelter, in and out of people’s homes, sometimes even some people’s own sorrows. So let’s really break down what that really looks like when you are living in a one room space with another individual. You do not have privacy. Nine times out of ten, being a transmasculine identify person, especially being black, you have to render some type of services to stay there, whether it be sexual, whether it be drugs. So when we talk about black men and being fetishized, Banko dealt with a lot of that. And so those people would be the people to take him in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Here, kind of like not in a long Kazani like like you’ve been there. Have you been there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>I mean, shit’s hella complex. So, for me personally, couch surfing always been my my survival tactic since I can remember of couch surfing, refusing to go to shelters because of horror stories I heard from former homies of going there and, you know, being violated. My mama, she went to prison when I was right after my fifth grade graduation in 2000. That’s when her body album dropped, too, so that that summer was live. So, you know, like, my mom was big shoes, shoes surviving, too. And so her like being sentenced to prison in state prison, being a young person, I mean, to pick up quick to hustle and survive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>When your mom went to prison, you talk about who who else was there for you, if anyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Or family for her immediate family, blood relatives. My mom got nine siblings, eight total that are living. I’m also born and raised in San Francisco when my mom went to prison. They were figuring now they system impacted they in and out of jails allocated. So I just got a bed in somebody’s house or whatever that looks like in that moment. I just had to make sure I had to protect myself, take care of the things I have for the moment, and just keep trying to get through at 11 years old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>And can we talk a little bit about Banko in terms of the safety? You know, obviously Banko went through the least safe thing you could imagine with the most terrible outcome you can imagine. What was Banko experiencing in terms of safety during this whole process?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Banko was actually experiencing a lot of issues with violence happening in some of the places that he was trying to stay at. Nobody’s perfect, you know, especially when we’re talking about community, right? People have all kinds of issues and trauma that they are that they’re trying to live through as well. I definitely know that there were a few times where, you know, he was upset from violent experiences that had taken place. And what we all do, right, we get upset. We want to do something about it. So, you know, really trying to calm him down to, like, see a different side of it, for him to just move through the trauma that he was experiencing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Yeah. And I don’t know how much you all followed kind of the public discussion of what happened to Banko afterwards. A lot of what I heard was a kind of a questioning of like, what did Bianca’s trans identity or black trans identity have to do with the shooting, especially when the security guard themselves was was black. I wonder if you could talk a bit about for people who don’t understand what does Mango’s black trans identity have to do with what brought him there that day and what happened? And whoever wants to jump in idea or something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So this is Xavier or what? What what that all has to do with is when you are a young, black, transmasculine identified person, people see that he walks in, he’s dark skinned, he has a hat on a t shirt, he has a little bit of a like a goatee or, you know, something growing in. And as another black man or being another man, there is a fight for power for who is the man for Banko. You know, the thought process is you look like a little boy or you’re trying to pretend to be a little boy. Because let’s be clear, Banko had not had, you know, top surgery. He had not been going through that part of of medical transitioning. So you have a masculine person with visible breast coming at you. You are going to now struggle for your manhood. I’m going to show you who’s boss is something that for people that are even lesbians who are more masculine looking. There is a struggle between men and any form of masculinity that they can see to them isn’t necessarily real.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>So it’s a it’s like a challenge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>It is a challenge. It very much is a challenge. I know this first experience. I have dealt with this my entire life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>And if I can just highlight that it’s true. And these are cases that’s not getting covered. And this is Juju speaking of Black Trans Men getting killed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I wonder if we can shift a little. I do want to know how that support can come through from family. Are you at a point of acceptance with your family right now and if you could touch on that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Me and my mother understand what’s happening, but my father and my my siblings that my father has. They’re not. They were only produced by my father. My father’s children. They have a bit of a hard time. And so we don’t necessarily talk the way that people would think family should or relatives should. But, you know, my mother respects who I am. My mother understands what has what has taken place. And she’s accepted that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I mean. Then if they’re very understanding our friends there with ties. But when I told my mom everything and broke it down that you don’t want to be a child, right. This kind of anything, you have to take a step back. My father, on the other hand, he’s more big on education. He didn’t. He taught him. He taught me, You don’t care what I do. He wants me to graduate and I’ll ever be like, so-and-so. I got it. You’ve been away. But I still had a heart and I still struggle. Identity came into play. I mean, it was still some some things going on at home. She understood. She knew, like, okay, as long as you’re safe, you know what? The protocols lie, you know, And I love you. I just I want to say this, too, because there was narratives being painted. Banko do have family that do care and love. But there was, you know, at some point everyone went their own ways. So I do want to just that on the record. He did have family that they can’t love, but he was looking for looking for a space. In people’s hearts to fill that void that he has been missing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>This goes on for me. My mother, she told me straight up, like, be you, son. Be you, son. And for me, that’s a fucking privilege. Like, you know, for someone who’s being who they are, like me, like for my mom to just show up right away. How she was able to just accept me. For me, it was just like a restart of our relationship as a as a mother and son. She’s just a gift to me, you know? And so what I’ve been doing with my folks is just like, sharing my mama with them. You know, share my mama with them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>When you mean to share your mama, do you mean you share your mother with other transpeople who don’t have that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Trans people, all people, even when they struggle like my mom just signs up like, I love you, I forgive you. And so I share my mama with my folks. And it’s my duty to make sure to create spaces for folks to be themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>What I want to ask you all lastly was about joy, because we’ve been talking about hardship. We’ve been talking about really hard things. But the goal is joy, right? I mean, let’s talk about the mechanical and let’s talk about the heart to the mechanical part is if you had these city leaders who are all talking about what happened to Banko, what would you say needs to change? And then after that, I want you to tell me what your joy looks like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I’ll start this, Xavier. I would say what needs to change is the systems in how they construct homelessness. There needs to be shelters specific for transmasculine folks. There needs to be shelters for trans people, period. But trans men need their own space. There needs to be more black, trans masculine leaders. There’s nobody else that can speak about black transness except for black trans people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>And how about the joy? What is your joy look like right now?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>My joy looks like, you know the rest of the work that I do. The Bay Area Transmasculine calendar is doing a second premiere of a calendar that we started last year with a group of Transmasculine folks to continue to ensure that Transmasculine folks are seen and can receive joy in seeing and having representation of themselves in all bodies, in all forms of trans masculine bodies, and in all forms of trans masculine and different cultures and ethnicities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>That’s beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>Did you figuring out the funding, figuring out where money can go to? I definitely believe that there should be more programs for black trans men, even from our community. My film Queens My Doors. We need to serve our queens, our triumph queens if I’m getting emotional. And it’s because I’m thinking about the joy part living and finding purpose. Picking up someone else’s purpose when they couldn’t find their purpose. And knowing that I’m here and I can also at least set some type of story for someone just to save surface and hopefully help another next person, next generation to continue to do this advocacy work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Because any changes you want to see and then tell us about your joy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>More action. People need to really start, especially like these politicians. Folks move in and power like really, really start, you know, on the ground and get dirty with us. All the years of just all the years I’ve been living in living in the city, I have not seen nothing that has been pivotal yet, specifically tailored to supporting trans people of color, people that are our natives, the first couple folks that are still here. There’s so many things that we need. So many corporations as are going out to rent something, hotels that’s going to manage or that how do we take those metro shelters, make an independent living for folks without all the stipulations and the requirements, because that’s overwhelming for our people to having to jump through these hoops and things and having to retraumatize ourselves just to get a fucking bed. Come on, now, we’ve got to really redefine what a sanctuary in San Francisco. As for my joy. I really love what you said. You, you know, picking up somebody else’s purpose. And this moment, that’s what it is for me personally. Is it bringing up some of the joys, the joy and the beauty that I learned about Banko and where he was dreaming of envisioning of, and how do you incorporate it not just in the individual people, but in community, in people, in organizations, in how we just do life and learn how to grieve and love myself at the same time. Because I have to say he is not the last person. And so while I’m still here, I’m building on my armor because I’m doing God’s work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>So would you say that Banko has influenced where your life is going?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>I think about his nieces and nephews. I really do every day. I wake up and you say their names and how they’re having a great day in the moment. That’s how I carry you. And that’s what I think of him every day. Because, again, trans people being here and we’re won’t keep coming here. Like it or not, you want to get on board whether you like it or not. We still here? We are forever going to be here. We take care of the village.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was KQED reporter Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez in conversation with Xavier Davenport. JuJu Pikes-Prince and Kazani Kalani Finao. Their conversation was cut down and edited by producer Maria Esquinca. It was edited by senior editor Alan Montecillo. The Bay is a production of KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Talk to you next time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\n\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"KQED’s Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez interviews three members of Banko Brown’s community from the Young Women’s Freedom Center. 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Today, KQED’s Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez interviews three members of Banko Brown’s community from the Young Women’s Freedom Center — Xavier Davenport, Kazani Kalani Finao, and Juju Pikes-Prince — about Brown’s life, and what they believe is necessary for trans people to be truly safe in San Francisco. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode was scored by producer Maria Esquinca.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC3000100033&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11953821/what-banko-browns-queer-trans-community-says-they-need-for-safety-joy-in-sf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What Banko Brown’s Queer, Trans Community Says They Need for Safety, Joy in SF\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. And welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. What is it going to take to make San Francisco truly safe for trans people? For one, stable housing. According to Our Trans Home SF, one out of two trans people in the city have been unhoused. 70% report being harassed while staying in homeless shelters, making one of the few choices for at least temporary housing unsafe for most trans people. Housing was a necessity that didn’t come easy for Banko Brown, a black trans man shot and killed by a Walgreens security guard on Market Street in April of this year. And for Brown’s chosen family, his queer community in San Francisco. His situation wasn’t unique, but an example of the worst case scenario when stable housing is out of reach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Homelessness is when you do not have rights to a space of your own. Banko never had a space of his own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>My colleague and reporter Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez sat down with Banko Brown’s shows and family to discuss life as a homeless queer person in San Francisco. Banko’s life before his death and what it’s going to take to truly make the city a safe place for queer and trans people. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>If you could just very briefly tell me a little bit about yourself. Introduce yourself to folks who are listening with your name, who you are, and your relation to Banko.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>Hello, my name is JuJu. I’m from the Young Woman’s Freedom Center. I’m a youth organizer. I officially met Banko maybe a year ago. But we have– we share relatives. His nieces and nephews are my little cousins. So, I’ve always known Banko, but we never spoke for about a year ago. And that’s when I introduced him to my sister. And he became my sister’s chosen child and I’m the auntie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>I’m Xavier. I met Banko through Young Woman’s Freedom Center. He became my mentee. And that was during the pandemic. We were focused on a lot of projects that were going to empower trans masculinity. I wanted to make sure we had a group during the pandemic, like a peer to peer support group, because the pandemic was very hard for a lot of Transmasculine folks. A lot of them were essential workers. A lot of them were creators that lost jobs. Some of them were sex workers that lost jobs. So my focus was to empower those people and make sure that they were heard. And so Banko would come to those groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>My name’s Kazani. I met Banko through Young Woman’s Freedom as well. We just had amazing, great conversations. Just always sparring with each other, bouncing back with, like, fun ideas. He uses a bright, outgoing apartment. Conversation was always immaculate, always amazing. Of he was a visionary. The struggle not only brought us together, but like I was able to, like, really build a relation with him based on, like, his gifts. He was very creative, his swag, his drip, like he was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me to like, you know, him, me younger to me, like I always share with him. Like, bro, you give me so much confidence, you give me so much courage for me to be me. He didn’t even know it. But again, he was just natural at that. Whatever I remember of him is his drips, sauce, smile, hugs, goofiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>All the jokes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Hell yeah, hell yeah. He funny, he hella funny. We always was direct. He pushed me to always have hard conversations. Be honest, being honest. And so to have that and to tell somebody yes, to hold me accountable, I’ll take that any day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Banko was in and out of homelessness. And I wonder if you could talk about what was – what the housing situation was like for Banko and what you saw him go through.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>When I first had met Banko, he was housed at some point. Then later on, when we lost another trans sister in the community, Ivory Nicole, that’s when, like, you know, stuff started to come out like, Oh, he’s looking for housing. He has nowhere to go. With only so much a person can do for an individual. It’s hard out here. I’ve been through. But for somebody to sleep on BART and got to blow time just to get it start today. If you go to the center, the $50 gift card or 25 gift card, no one’s gonna ever understand that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>And we were talking about sleeping on Bart. We’re talking about Banko Banko. You said he drifted in and out of it yourself. Can you talk a little bit about homelessness?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. As hard and it’s expensive. No matter way. Being homeless is still expensive. I was homeless for about two years, maybe a year or two years. I didn’t know what to do and it just wasn’t working out. We were living in McGuire. I thought his his parents were going to take a friend, but that wasn’t the case. Then even shelters. Shelters don’t protect you. Shelters don’t protect my people either. Stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out. People look at us like we’re nasty. So it’s things like that that we still have to navigate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Have you heard them say that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>Yeah. I mean, I’ve had problems at the outset and you can’t do nothing about it. You don’t lose this part. So it’s one of those things you got to say to sleep, wake up and do something productive. And so you get called for housing and permanent housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Xavier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Where do we start?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Well, it would then go first, and then we’ll go on to your own experiences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Banko never had a space of his own. Banko had been in and out of shelter, in and out of people’s homes, sometimes even some people’s own sorrows. So let’s really break down what that really looks like when you are living in a one room space with another individual. You do not have privacy. Nine times out of ten, being a transmasculine identify person, especially being black, you have to render some type of services to stay there, whether it be sexual, whether it be drugs. So when we talk about black men and being fetishized, Banko dealt with a lot of that. And so those people would be the people to take him in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Here, kind of like not in a long Kazani like like you’ve been there. Have you been there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>I mean, shit’s hella complex. So, for me personally, couch surfing always been my my survival tactic since I can remember of couch surfing, refusing to go to shelters because of horror stories I heard from former homies of going there and, you know, being violated. My mama, she went to prison when I was right after my fifth grade graduation in 2000. That’s when her body album dropped, too, so that that summer was live. So, you know, like, my mom was big shoes, shoes surviving, too. And so her like being sentenced to prison in state prison, being a young person, I mean, to pick up quick to hustle and survive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>When your mom went to prison, you talk about who who else was there for you, if anyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Or family for her immediate family, blood relatives. My mom got nine siblings, eight total that are living. I’m also born and raised in San Francisco when my mom went to prison. They were figuring now they system impacted they in and out of jails allocated. So I just got a bed in somebody’s house or whatever that looks like in that moment. I just had to make sure I had to protect myself, take care of the things I have for the moment, and just keep trying to get through at 11 years old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>And can we talk a little bit about Banko in terms of the safety? You know, obviously Banko went through the least safe thing you could imagine with the most terrible outcome you can imagine. What was Banko experiencing in terms of safety during this whole process?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Banko was actually experiencing a lot of issues with violence happening in some of the places that he was trying to stay at. Nobody’s perfect, you know, especially when we’re talking about community, right? People have all kinds of issues and trauma that they are that they’re trying to live through as well. I definitely know that there were a few times where, you know, he was upset from violent experiences that had taken place. And what we all do, right, we get upset. We want to do something about it. So, you know, really trying to calm him down to, like, see a different side of it, for him to just move through the trauma that he was experiencing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Yeah. And I don’t know how much you all followed kind of the public discussion of what happened to Banko afterwards. A lot of what I heard was a kind of a questioning of like, what did Bianca’s trans identity or black trans identity have to do with the shooting, especially when the security guard themselves was was black. I wonder if you could talk a bit about for people who don’t understand what does Mango’s black trans identity have to do with what brought him there that day and what happened? And whoever wants to jump in idea or something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So this is Xavier or what? What what that all has to do with is when you are a young, black, transmasculine identified person, people see that he walks in, he’s dark skinned, he has a hat on a t shirt, he has a little bit of a like a goatee or, you know, something growing in. And as another black man or being another man, there is a fight for power for who is the man for Banko. You know, the thought process is you look like a little boy or you’re trying to pretend to be a little boy. Because let’s be clear, Banko had not had, you know, top surgery. He had not been going through that part of of medical transitioning. So you have a masculine person with visible breast coming at you. You are going to now struggle for your manhood. I’m going to show you who’s boss is something that for people that are even lesbians who are more masculine looking. There is a struggle between men and any form of masculinity that they can see to them isn’t necessarily real.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>So it’s a it’s like a challenge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>It is a challenge. It very much is a challenge. I know this first experience. I have dealt with this my entire life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>And if I can just highlight that it’s true. And these are cases that’s not getting covered. And this is Juju speaking of Black Trans Men getting killed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>I wonder if we can shift a little. I do want to know how that support can come through from family. Are you at a point of acceptance with your family right now and if you could touch on that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Me and my mother understand what’s happening, but my father and my my siblings that my father has. They’re not. They were only produced by my father. My father’s children. They have a bit of a hard time. And so we don’t necessarily talk the way that people would think family should or relatives should. But, you know, my mother respects who I am. My mother understands what has what has taken place. And she’s accepted that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I mean. Then if they’re very understanding our friends there with ties. But when I told my mom everything and broke it down that you don’t want to be a child, right. This kind of anything, you have to take a step back. My father, on the other hand, he’s more big on education. He didn’t. He taught him. He taught me, You don’t care what I do. He wants me to graduate and I’ll ever be like, so-and-so. I got it. You’ve been away. But I still had a heart and I still struggle. Identity came into play. I mean, it was still some some things going on at home. She understood. She knew, like, okay, as long as you’re safe, you know what? The protocols lie, you know, And I love you. I just I want to say this, too, because there was narratives being painted. Banko do have family that do care and love. But there was, you know, at some point everyone went their own ways. So I do want to just that on the record. He did have family that they can’t love, but he was looking for looking for a space. In people’s hearts to fill that void that he has been missing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>This goes on for me. My mother, she told me straight up, like, be you, son. Be you, son. And for me, that’s a fucking privilege. Like, you know, for someone who’s being who they are, like me, like for my mom to just show up right away. How she was able to just accept me. For me, it was just like a restart of our relationship as a as a mother and son. She’s just a gift to me, you know? And so what I’ve been doing with my folks is just like, sharing my mama with them. You know, share my mama with them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>When you mean to share your mama, do you mean you share your mother with other transpeople who don’t have that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Trans people, all people, even when they struggle like my mom just signs up like, I love you, I forgive you. And so I share my mama with my folks. And it’s my duty to make sure to create spaces for folks to be themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>What I want to ask you all lastly was about joy, because we’ve been talking about hardship. We’ve been talking about really hard things. But the goal is joy, right? I mean, let’s talk about the mechanical and let’s talk about the heart to the mechanical part is if you had these city leaders who are all talking about what happened to Banko, what would you say needs to change? And then after that, I want you to tell me what your joy looks like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I’ll start this, Xavier. I would say what needs to change is the systems in how they construct homelessness. There needs to be shelters specific for transmasculine folks. There needs to be shelters for trans people, period. But trans men need their own space. There needs to be more black, trans masculine leaders. There’s nobody else that can speak about black transness except for black trans people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>And how about the joy? What is your joy look like right now?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Xavier Davenport: \u003c/strong>My joy looks like, you know the rest of the work that I do. The Bay Area Transmasculine calendar is doing a second premiere of a calendar that we started last year with a group of Transmasculine folks to continue to ensure that Transmasculine folks are seen and can receive joy in seeing and having representation of themselves in all bodies, in all forms of trans masculine bodies, and in all forms of trans masculine and different cultures and ethnicities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>That’s beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>JuJu Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>Did you figuring out the funding, figuring out where money can go to? I definitely believe that there should be more programs for black trans men, even from our community. My film Queens My Doors. We need to serve our queens, our triumph queens if I’m getting emotional. And it’s because I’m thinking about the joy part living and finding purpose. Picking up someone else’s purpose when they couldn’t find their purpose. And knowing that I’m here and I can also at least set some type of story for someone just to save surface and hopefully help another next person, next generation to continue to do this advocacy work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>Because any changes you want to see and then tell us about your joy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>More action. People need to really start, especially like these politicians. Folks move in and power like really, really start, you know, on the ground and get dirty with us. All the years of just all the years I’ve been living in living in the city, I have not seen nothing that has been pivotal yet, specifically tailored to supporting trans people of color, people that are our natives, the first couple folks that are still here. There’s so many things that we need. So many corporations as are going out to rent something, hotels that’s going to manage or that how do we take those metro shelters, make an independent living for folks without all the stipulations and the requirements, because that’s overwhelming for our people to having to jump through these hoops and things and having to retraumatize ourselves just to get a fucking bed. Come on, now, we’ve got to really redefine what a sanctuary in San Francisco. As for my joy. I really love what you said. You, you know, picking up somebody else’s purpose. And this moment, that’s what it is for me personally. Is it bringing up some of the joys, the joy and the beauty that I learned about Banko and where he was dreaming of envisioning of, and how do you incorporate it not just in the individual people, but in community, in people, in organizations, in how we just do life and learn how to grieve and love myself at the same time. Because I have to say he is not the last person. And so while I’m still here, I’m building on my armor because I’m doing God’s work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: \u003c/strong>So would you say that Banko has influenced where your life is going?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Kazani Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>I think about his nieces and nephews. I really do every day. I wake up and you say their names and how they’re having a great day in the moment. That’s how I carry you. And that’s what I think of him every day. Because, again, trans people being here and we’re won’t keep coming here. Like it or not, you want to get on board whether you like it or not. We still here? We are forever going to be here. We take care of the village.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was KQED reporter Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez in conversation with Xavier Davenport. JuJu Pikes-Prince and Kazani Kalani Finao. Their conversation was cut down and edited by producer Maria Esquinca. It was edited by senior editor Alan Montecillo. The Bay is a production of KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. 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These are monumental rulings that directly affect people of color, queer folks, prospective college students and the 43 million Americans with federal student loans — leaving many devastated and fearful for the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/explaining-the-supreme-court\">our series explaining this summer’s Supreme Court decisions\u003c/a>, we’re unpacking how these rulings will affect you — and what can be done now. This explainer focuses on the case 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis — which saw the court rule in favor of a web designer who refused to make wedding websites for gay couples — and what it could mean for discrimination against LGBTQ+ folks in the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED gathered legal and judicial insight on this ruling at a panel hosted at Manny’s, a community space in San Francisco. On this panel were:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.keker.com/Lawyers/courtney-j-liss\">Courtney Liss\u003c/a>, associate at San Francisco law firm Keker, Van Nest and Peters\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.keker.com/Lawyers/Harris-Cody\">Cody Harris\u003c/a>, partner at Keker, Van Nest and Peters\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.uchastings.edu/people/matt-coles/\">Matthew Coles\u003c/a>, professor of practice at UC Law San Francisco (formerly UC Hastings)\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>What was the Supreme Court’s decision about LGBTQ+ discrimination?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In a defeat for gay rights, the Supreme Court’s conservative majority ruled in 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis that a Christian graphic artist who designs wedding websites can refuse to work with same-sex couples.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#tellus\">\u003cstrong>Tell us: What else do you need information about right now?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Justice Sonia Sotomayor, one of the court’s liberal justices, wrote in a dissent that the decision’s effect is to “mark gays and lesbians for second-class status” and that the ruling opens the door to further discrimination. \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/06/30/1182121291/colorado-supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-decision\">Read more about the case from NPR\u003c/a> or read \u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-476_c185.pdf\">the Supreme Court’s ruling (PDF)\u003c/a> for yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What will change for queer people in the US after this case?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>This ruling has opened the door for LGBTQ+ people to be discriminated against when requesting services from certain professionals, says UC Law San Francisco’s Coles, specifically in situations involving the use of words or the creation of images and films.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why? Smith \u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-476_c185.pdf\">framed her website services as “expressive in nature” (PDF)\u003c/a> because she designed them to be customized, original and intended “to communicate a particular message.” Consequently, other professionals operating what could be termed an “expressive business” could use this ruling to deny service to LGBTQ+ people as well.[aside label='Unpacking the Recent Supreme Court Decisions' tag='explaining-the-supreme-court']Coles’ advice to folks in the community? “Find out in advance whether this business has said that it doesn’t want to serve [queer people],” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Practically, the website case now means that someone like Lorie Smith, the Colorado graphic designer, can refuse service to LGBTQ+ folks “without fear of government sanction on them,” said Harris of Keker, Van Nest and Peters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harris adds that hate speech laws as most people think of them — those that would make it a crime to say something hateful — don’t really exist. Hate speech is “awful and odious, and it makes me angry,” he said, “but it’s constitutional.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How was this case even won?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Lorie Smith, the web designer involved in the case, was challenging her home state of Colorado’s public accommodations law — the type of law that, in most states, bars discrimination based on sexual orientation. Her claim was that the state was unconstitutionally forcing her to create a message she opposes because she can’t deny service to same-sex couples. The Supreme Court sided with Smith, ruling that forcing her to create websites for queer couples would violate her free speech rights under the Constitution’s First Amendment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith should have lost her case on several fronts, said Coles — just one being that her website work “is commercial speech,” and not personal expression (free speech), because Smith “was being paid to write words for somebody else.” And it’s well-established, says Coles, that commercial speech is not as protected as other forms of speech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The court ignored this analysis of the First Amendment in its ruling, says Coles. A majority of the justices, he adds, believe that if Smith created websites for same-sex couples, she would be forced to use words to celebrate things she does not want to celebrate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Responding to \u003ca href=\"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/supreme-court-web-designer-fake-case-b2370226.html\">lingering questions over the legitimacy of this case\u003c/a> — namely, whether the web designer in question had ever really been asked to design a site for a gay wedding — Coles said he didn’t think it’s “a fake case.” The real question, he said, is whether the designer has taken steps to “start working on websites or not — and the answer is yes. She made a pretty decent showing in the court that she’d done a lot of research. She had models together.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Notions of this being a “fake case” get away from the point, says Liss, of Van Nest and Peters. She stresses that this case is “an important door,” one that this court has chosen to open and go through by taking up the case in the first place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11955692\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11955692\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"A rainbow flag hangs over a government building.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco-based attorney Courtney Liss advises businesses to make it very clear that they \u003cem>do\u003c/em> want to provide services to LGBTQ+ communities, with signs and clear website notices. ‘I personally do not want to go anywhere where I’m not welcome,’ she said. \u003ccite>(JasonDoiy/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>What could the long-term ramifications of this case be?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Coles says that what surprised him about the Supreme Court’s decision was that it did not draw upon the clause in the Constitution that protects people’s right to practice their religion. Instead, the ruling draws upon the free speech clause, “because [Lorie Smith] was involved in expressive conduct.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coles believes that the Court’s conservative justices disagree on how to interpret the free exercise-of-religion clause. But he cautions that there may come a day when the conservative justices privilege religious exemptions in their rulings. “And that religious exception to nondiscrimination laws is not going to be limited to expressive businesses,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Run through the list of everything that we’ve managed to cover with our civil rights laws,” Coles said, referring to protections for race, religion, gender and disability. By itself, he said, 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis is “not going to completely eviscerate discrimination laws,” but he believes it “portends something in the future, which is a good deal worse.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How can you voice your opposition to this ruling?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Supreme Court’s recent raft of rulings against LGBTQ+ rights, affirmative action and student loan forgiveness has drawn vehement criticism sharply focused on the Court’s conservative supermajority. For example, in speaking out against the student loan decision, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11954741/supreme-court-student-loan-decision-how-affects-you\">U.S Rep. 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You might also feel like this “legitimacy crisis” is sharpened, she says, by “\u003ca href=\"https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-undisclosed-luxury-travel-gifts-crow\">the lack of standards that the Supreme Court holds themselves to in terms of accepting gifts\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On an everyday scale, Liss advises businesses to make it very clear that they \u003cem>do\u003c/em> want to provide services to LGBTQ+ communities, with signs and clear website notices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I personally do not want to go anywhere where I’m not welcome,” said Liss. “I don’t want to give a single dollar to someone who wouldn’t be excited to take my very gay dollar.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story contains reporting from The Associated Press.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"tellus\">\u003c/a>Tell us: What else do you need information about?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At KQED News, we know that it can sometimes be hard to track down the answers to navigate life in the Bay Area in 2023. We’ve published \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/coronavirus-resources-and-explainers\">clear, practical explainers and guides about COVID\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11936674/how-to-prepare-for-this-weeks-atmospheric-river-storm-sandbags-emergency-kits-and-more\">how to cope with intense winter weather\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821950/how-to-safely-attend-a-protest-in-the-bay-area\">how to exercise your right to protest safely\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So tell us: What do you need to know more about? Tell us, and you could see your question answered online or on social media. What you submit will make our reporting stronger, and help us decide what to cover here on our site, and on KQED Public Radio, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[hearken id=\"10483\" src=\"https://modules.wearehearken.com/kqed/embed/10483.js\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"What protections do LGBTQ+ people have in the US against discrimination after the latest Supreme Court ruling? The answers — and what to do about them — are in our guide.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1689356205,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":true,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":32,"wordCount":1693},"headData":{"title":"Legal Experts Break Down Supreme Court's LGBTQ+ Discrimination Ruling | KQED","description":"What protections do LGBTQ+ people have in the US against discrimination after the latest Supreme Court ruling? 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These are monumental rulings that directly affect people of color, queer folks, prospective college students and the 43 million Americans with federal student loans — leaving many devastated and fearful for the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/explaining-the-supreme-court\">our series explaining this summer’s Supreme Court decisions\u003c/a>, we’re unpacking how these rulings will affect you — and what can be done now. This explainer focuses on the case 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis — which saw the court rule in favor of a web designer who refused to make wedding websites for gay couples — and what it could mean for discrimination against LGBTQ+ folks in the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED gathered legal and judicial insight on this ruling at a panel hosted at Manny’s, a community space in San Francisco. On this panel were:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.keker.com/Lawyers/courtney-j-liss\">Courtney Liss\u003c/a>, associate at San Francisco law firm Keker, Van Nest and Peters\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.keker.com/Lawyers/Harris-Cody\">Cody Harris\u003c/a>, partner at Keker, Van Nest and Peters\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.uchastings.edu/people/matt-coles/\">Matthew Coles\u003c/a>, professor of practice at UC Law San Francisco (formerly UC Hastings)\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>What was the Supreme Court’s decision about LGBTQ+ discrimination?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In a defeat for gay rights, the Supreme Court’s conservative majority ruled in 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis that a Christian graphic artist who designs wedding websites can refuse to work with same-sex couples.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#tellus\">\u003cstrong>Tell us: What else do you need information about right now?\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Justice Sonia Sotomayor, one of the court’s liberal justices, wrote in a dissent that the decision’s effect is to “mark gays and lesbians for second-class status” and that the ruling opens the door to further discrimination. \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/06/30/1182121291/colorado-supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-decision\">Read more about the case from NPR\u003c/a> or read \u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-476_c185.pdf\">the Supreme Court’s ruling (PDF)\u003c/a> for yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What will change for queer people in the US after this case?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>This ruling has opened the door for LGBTQ+ people to be discriminated against when requesting services from certain professionals, says UC Law San Francisco’s Coles, specifically in situations involving the use of words or the creation of images and films.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why? Smith \u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-476_c185.pdf\">framed her website services as “expressive in nature” (PDF)\u003c/a> because she designed them to be customized, original and intended “to communicate a particular message.” Consequently, other professionals operating what could be termed an “expressive business” could use this ruling to deny service to LGBTQ+ people as well.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Unpacking the Recent Supreme Court Decisions ","tag":"explaining-the-supreme-court"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Coles’ advice to folks in the community? “Find out in advance whether this business has said that it doesn’t want to serve [queer people],” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Practically, the website case now means that someone like Lorie Smith, the Colorado graphic designer, can refuse service to LGBTQ+ folks “without fear of government sanction on them,” said Harris of Keker, Van Nest and Peters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harris adds that hate speech laws as most people think of them — those that would make it a crime to say something hateful — don’t really exist. Hate speech is “awful and odious, and it makes me angry,” he said, “but it’s constitutional.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How was this case even won?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Lorie Smith, the web designer involved in the case, was challenging her home state of Colorado’s public accommodations law — the type of law that, in most states, bars discrimination based on sexual orientation. Her claim was that the state was unconstitutionally forcing her to create a message she opposes because she can’t deny service to same-sex couples. The Supreme Court sided with Smith, ruling that forcing her to create websites for queer couples would violate her free speech rights under the Constitution’s First Amendment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith should have lost her case on several fronts, said Coles — just one being that her website work “is commercial speech,” and not personal expression (free speech), because Smith “was being paid to write words for somebody else.” And it’s well-established, says Coles, that commercial speech is not as protected as other forms of speech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The court ignored this analysis of the First Amendment in its ruling, says Coles. A majority of the justices, he adds, believe that if Smith created websites for same-sex couples, she would be forced to use words to celebrate things she does not want to celebrate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Responding to \u003ca href=\"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/supreme-court-web-designer-fake-case-b2370226.html\">lingering questions over the legitimacy of this case\u003c/a> — namely, whether the web designer in question had ever really been asked to design a site for a gay wedding — Coles said he didn’t think it’s “a fake case.” The real question, he said, is whether the designer has taken steps to “start working on websites or not — and the answer is yes. She made a pretty decent showing in the court that she’d done a lot of research. She had models together.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Notions of this being a “fake case” get away from the point, says Liss, of Van Nest and Peters. She stresses that this case is “an important door,” one that this court has chosen to open and go through by taking up the case in the first place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11955692\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11955692\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"A rainbow flag hangs over a government building.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/GettyImages-972695008-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco-based attorney Courtney Liss advises businesses to make it very clear that they \u003cem>do\u003c/em> want to provide services to LGBTQ+ communities, with signs and clear website notices. ‘I personally do not want to go anywhere where I’m not welcome,’ she said. \u003ccite>(JasonDoiy/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>What could the long-term ramifications of this case be?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Coles says that what surprised him about the Supreme Court’s decision was that it did not draw upon the clause in the Constitution that protects people’s right to practice their religion. Instead, the ruling draws upon the free speech clause, “because [Lorie Smith] was involved in expressive conduct.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coles believes that the Court’s conservative justices disagree on how to interpret the free exercise-of-religion clause. But he cautions that there may come a day when the conservative justices privilege religious exemptions in their rulings. “And that religious exception to nondiscrimination laws is not going to be limited to expressive businesses,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Run through the list of everything that we’ve managed to cover with our civil rights laws,” Coles said, referring to protections for race, religion, gender and disability. By itself, he said, 303 Creative LLC v. 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You might also feel like this “legitimacy crisis” is sharpened, she says, by “\u003ca href=\"https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-undisclosed-luxury-travel-gifts-crow\">the lack of standards that the Supreme Court holds themselves to in terms of accepting gifts\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On an everyday scale, Liss advises businesses to make it very clear that they \u003cem>do\u003c/em> want to provide services to LGBTQ+ communities, with signs and clear website notices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I personally do not want to go anywhere where I’m not welcome,” said Liss. “I don’t want to give a single dollar to someone who wouldn’t be excited to take my very gay dollar.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story contains reporting from The Associated Press.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"tellus\">\u003c/a>Tell us: What else do you need information about?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At KQED News, we know that it can sometimes be hard to track down the answers to navigate life in the Bay Area in 2023. 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For this episode we hear from Gwenn Craig, a queer elder. She moved to San Francisco in 1975 as a young woman eager to explore her lesbian identity. She got involved in politics and was a close collaborator of Harvey Milk. 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For this episode we hear from Gwenn Craig, a queer elder. She moved to San Francisco in 1975 as a young woman eager to explore her lesbian identity. She got involved in politics and was a close collaborator of Harvey Milk. She talks about her political organizing, what pride has meant to her over the years, and what she hopes for its future. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://bit.ly/44LtSVX\">\u003cem>Episode transcript\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview was conducted by Annelise Finney. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC4504363063&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11954292/i-think-pride-means-more-this-year-than-ever-a-queer-elders-reflections-on-sf-pride-a-queer-elders-reflections-on-sf-pride","authors":["8654","11649","11802","11844","11772"],"programs":["news_28779"],"categories":["news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_20003","news_25373","news_1579","news_26070","news_22598"],"featImg":"news_11706591","label":"source_news_11954292"},"news_11953967":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11953967","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11953967","score":null,"sort":[1687726859000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"sf-pride-2023-marks-53-years-of-lgbtq-joy-freedom-and-defiance","title":"SF Pride 2023 Marks 53 Years of LGBTQ+ Joy, Freedom and Defiance","publishDate":1687726859,"format":"standard","headTitle":"SF Pride 2023 Marks 53 Years of LGBTQ+ Joy, Freedom and Defiance | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Hundreds of thousands of spectators, members of the LGBTQ+ community and allies gathered to celebrate San Francisco Pride on Sunday for one of the largest and longest-running pride parades in the world. This weekend’s Pride Celebration marks the 53rd year of SF Pride.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Hector Topete, parade attendee\"]‘What I like about being right here, right now is I just see myself as a normal person. I don’t see myself as being different. I just feel like I’m someone who belongs.’[/pullquote]The parade, with over 200 contingents, began at Beale Street near the Embarcadero at 10:30 a.m. Sunday morning and continued up Market Street, leading to the Pride festival at Civic Center Plaza with music and activities, food and family areas, and a lot of partying. Nonstop pumping music blared from speakers and from various instruments in the streets as members of community organizations walked and activist groups chanted messages about anti-discrimination and civil rights. The music included a full marching band playing “California Love” and a performance from a Brazilian Carnaval dance and percussion company called Fogo Na Roupa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954021\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954021 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Onlookers cheer for Queen Maisa Duke as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Onlookers cheer for Queen Maisa Duke as the Pride parade passes down Market Street. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This year’s Pride parade took on added significance in the face of an unprecedented \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights\">spate of anti-LGBTQ+ bills\u003c/a> introduced in state legislatures across the country, increasingly \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/02/886285772/trump-and-mcconnell-via-swath-of-judges-will-affect-u-s-law-for-decades\">conservative federal judges\u003c/a>, and a U.S. Supreme Court that overturned Roe v. Wade last year — along with ongoing attacks on LGBTQ+ individuals nationwide that has been called a “\u003ca href=\"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/lgbtq-americans-are-under-attack-human-rights-campaign-declares-in-state-of-emergency-warning\">state of emergency\u003c/a>” by \u003ca href=\"https://give.hrc.org/page/125646/donate/1?ea.tracking.id=dr_don_mr_searchFY24\">Human Rights Campaign\u003c/a>, the largest LGBTQ+ advocacy group in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954017\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954017 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Pridegoers dressed as Emperor Norton and Countess Lola Montez pause for a photo as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pride-goers dressed as Emperor Norton and Countess Lola Montez pause for a photo. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“The shameful competition within one of America’s formerly great parties to see who can more dehumanize the trans community, is a grave danger and a damning statement about the state of our country,” said U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Burbank) regarding Republicans nationally targeting LGBTQ rights during the annual \u003ca href=\"https://www.alicebtoklas.org/pride-breakfast-2023\">Alice B. Toklas LGTBQ Democratic Club Pride Breakfast\u003c/a> on Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954009\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954009 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A marcher holds a sign reading “It should not be a crime to be queer” as the Pride parade gets underway in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1335\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-1920x1282.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A marcher holds a sign reading ‘It should not be a crime to be queer’ as the Pride parade gets underway in downtown San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Pride means more this year than ever,” said Gwenn Craig, former president of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.milkclub.org/\">Harvey Milk LGBTQ Democratic Club\u003c/a> who also was a campaign manager for Harvey Milk in the “\u003ca href=\"https://www.glbthistory.org/briggs\">No On 6\u003c/a>” campaign in 1978. “We didn’t expect a regression in our movement, in the civil rights that we had achieved. It’s enraging. We’re having to fight again. It’s really exasperating. But here we are still at it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954011\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954011 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Onlookers wave and take photos as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Onlookers wave and take photos as the Pride parade passes down Market Street. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sunday’s Pride parade is the traditional annual climax to Pride Celebration weekend, held on the final full weekend of June, also known as Pride Month in San Francisco, a four-week festival of conferences, shows, concerts, parties and political events dedicated to the celebration and advancement of LGBTQ+ rights and identity.[aside postID=news_11953672 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/06/RS31561_62418_AW_Pride_09-qut-1180x787.jpg']Paul Aguilar is a Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal of the San Francisco Pride parade, a recognition earned for his many years of advocacy for those — like him — who live with HIV and AIDS, to which he’s lost many friends. He’s been attending pride marches since the mid-70s, and says his first Pride experience was “life-changing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was one unmistakable feeling, and that was the feeling of acceptance. This was my tribe. This is what I’ve been looking for. These were my people,” said Aguilar. “We danced that pain away, and that insecurity away, and that anger away. And now we dance to remember those we’ve lost and to celebrate them. That’s also part of Pride.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954006\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954006 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Tiffany Howard, 49, of Orange County closes her eyes during a paint job as she waits for the Pride parade to begin in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1335\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-1920x1282.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tiffany Howard, 49, of Orange County closes her eyes during a paint job as she waits for the Pride parade to begin. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Pride Parade is not without its controversies, including the issue of corporate sponsorship, with many feeling that these have no place at a Pride celebration, and also because some corporations — like \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/target-lgbtq-pride-month-bathing-suits-21393e91a8eb6110b46623d17a3bf507\">Target\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/bud-light-transgender-dylan-mulvaney-nike-2fe1425ba09a3f0e271fda0ae4b67434\">Bud Light\u003c/a> — have backtracked on their support when faced with a backlash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954022\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954022 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Henry Aho, 34, waves to onlookers as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Henry Aho, 34, waves to onlookers as the Pride parade passes down Market Street. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Amy Sueyoshi, who is provost and vice president of academic affairs at San Francisco State University and a former member of the SF Pride board, said she thinks the founders might indeed consider today’s Pride organizers to have “sold out” and said that even today, many who attend are shocked at the level of corporate sponsorship. However, she also thinks that the Pride celebration in San Francisco has really shown how the queer community and queer liberation “can be a mainstream movement,” and that it “demonstrates how corporations and cities can invest in queer liberation and in gay pride and not have any detrimental consequences.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sueyoshi warned against taking Pride for granted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>“\u003c/strong>As much as we all can be critical of pride … the truth is that so many people come to San Francisco not just for queer liberation, but for other types of home that the city provides as well,” Sueyoshi said. “And so it’s important, I think, to invest in that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954019\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954019 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Kit Lem, 47, a legislative aide for San Francisco Supervisor Joel Engardio, hands out bead necklaces as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kit Lam, 47, a legislative aide for San Francisco Supervisor Joel Engardio, hands out bead necklaces at the Pride parade. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Another controversial issue involves the police. Many in the LGBTQ+ community object to uniformed SFPD officers marching — even if they are LGBTQ+ — citing a history of abuses committed by law enforcement against the LGBTQ+ community. Nevertheless, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11917710/sfpd-officers-to-march-in-pride-amid-complicated-feelings-uniform-compromise\">the compromise reached between San Francisco Pride and the SFPD last year\u003c/a> held firm for 2023, whereby on-duty members of the SFPD Pride Alliance march in uniform while others march without uniforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954013\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954013 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"State Senator Scott Weiner waves to onlookers from atop a truck as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">State Senator Scott Wiener waves to onlookers from atop a truck at the Pride parade. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But more than anything, Pride is about celebration and the joy of just letting loose and being who you are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954007\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954007 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Cathy Webber, 66, waves a trans flag as she walks down Market Street in downtown San Francisco during the Pride parade on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cathy Webber, 66, waves a trans flag as she walks down Market Street. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We support gay marriage, we support trans marriage, we support LGBTQ rights,” said Cathy Webber, a member of the\u003cb> \u003c/b>Church Ladies for Gay Rights group that marched in the parade. “A lot of churches don’t, and we believe that that’s wrong.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sam Douglas from Oakdale said the parade was an opportunity to push back against discrimination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With everything that’s been going on in the past few months, this is just another way to say s—- it, honestly, it’s for everyone else and saying, ‘you know, we can’t have this again,'” said Douglas. “I know there’s been a lot of hate towards LGBT and like I think that this [parade] is just the opposite of that and it’s nice to see that a lot of people are against [hate].”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954008\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954008 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Angel Vidaña kisses partner Hector Topete as they wait for the 2023 Pride parade to begin in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Angel Vidaña kisses partner Hector Topete as they wait for the Pride parade to begin. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hector Topete attended the parade for the first time with his partner Angel Vidaña.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a very new experience for me. So I was very nervous at first, but within minutes, I just felt so comfortable being myself around [Angel],” said Topete. “What I like about being right here, right now is I just see myself as a normal person. I don’t see myself as being different. I just feel like I’m someone who belongs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Rachael Vasquez, Annelise Finney, Kelly O’Mara, Lakshmi Sarah and Attila Pelit contributed reporting to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Under this year's theme of 'Looking Back and Moving Forward,' the San Francisco Pride parade draws on a proud history as it continues to be a symbol for LGBTQ+ unity, love and resistance.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1687889141,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":1410},"headData":{"title":"SF Pride 2023 Marks 53 Years of LGBTQ+ Joy, Freedom and Defiance | KQED","description":"Under this year's theme of 'Looking Back and Moving Forward,' the San Francisco Pride parade draws on a proud history as it continues to be a symbol for LGBTQ+ unity, love and resistance.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"SF Pride 2023 Marks 53 Years of LGBTQ+ Joy, Freedom and Defiance","datePublished":"2023-06-25T21:00:59.000Z","dateModified":"2023-06-27T18:05:41.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11953967/sf-pride-2023-marks-53-years-of-lgbtq-joy-freedom-and-defiance","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Hundreds of thousands of spectators, members of the LGBTQ+ community and allies gathered to celebrate San Francisco Pride on Sunday for one of the largest and longest-running pride parades in the world. This weekend’s Pride Celebration marks the 53rd year of SF Pride.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘What I like about being right here, right now is I just see myself as a normal person. I don’t see myself as being different. I just feel like I’m someone who belongs.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Hector Topete, parade attendee","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The parade, with over 200 contingents, began at Beale Street near the Embarcadero at 10:30 a.m. Sunday morning and continued up Market Street, leading to the Pride festival at Civic Center Plaza with music and activities, food and family areas, and a lot of partying. Nonstop pumping music blared from speakers and from various instruments in the streets as members of community organizations walked and activist groups chanted messages about anti-discrimination and civil rights. The music included a full marching band playing “California Love” and a performance from a Brazilian Carnaval dance and percussion company called Fogo Na Roupa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954021\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954021 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Onlookers cheer for Queen Maisa Duke as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66595_230625-sf-pride-26-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Onlookers cheer for Queen Maisa Duke as the Pride parade passes down Market Street. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This year’s Pride parade took on added significance in the face of an unprecedented \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights\">spate of anti-LGBTQ+ bills\u003c/a> introduced in state legislatures across the country, increasingly \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/02/886285772/trump-and-mcconnell-via-swath-of-judges-will-affect-u-s-law-for-decades\">conservative federal judges\u003c/a>, and a U.S. Supreme Court that overturned Roe v. Wade last year — along with ongoing attacks on LGBTQ+ individuals nationwide that has been called a “\u003ca href=\"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/lgbtq-americans-are-under-attack-human-rights-campaign-declares-in-state-of-emergency-warning\">state of emergency\u003c/a>” by \u003ca href=\"https://give.hrc.org/page/125646/donate/1?ea.tracking.id=dr_don_mr_searchFY24\">Human Rights Campaign\u003c/a>, the largest LGBTQ+ advocacy group in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954017\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954017 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Pridegoers dressed as Emperor Norton and Countess Lola Montez pause for a photo as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66590_230625-sf-pride-23-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pride-goers dressed as Emperor Norton and Countess Lola Montez pause for a photo. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“The shameful competition within one of America’s formerly great parties to see who can more dehumanize the trans community, is a grave danger and a damning statement about the state of our country,” said U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Burbank) regarding Republicans nationally targeting LGBTQ rights during the annual \u003ca href=\"https://www.alicebtoklas.org/pride-breakfast-2023\">Alice B. Toklas LGTBQ Democratic Club Pride Breakfast\u003c/a> on Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954009\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954009 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A marcher holds a sign reading “It should not be a crime to be queer” as the Pride parade gets underway in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1335\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66575_230625-sf-pride-07-ks-KQED-1920x1282.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A marcher holds a sign reading ‘It should not be a crime to be queer’ as the Pride parade gets underway in downtown San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Pride means more this year than ever,” said Gwenn Craig, former president of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.milkclub.org/\">Harvey Milk LGBTQ Democratic Club\u003c/a> who also was a campaign manager for Harvey Milk in the “\u003ca href=\"https://www.glbthistory.org/briggs\">No On 6\u003c/a>” campaign in 1978. “We didn’t expect a regression in our movement, in the civil rights that we had achieved. It’s enraging. We’re having to fight again. It’s really exasperating. But here we are still at it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954011\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954011 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Onlookers wave and take photos as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66580_230625-sf-pride-13-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Onlookers wave and take photos as the Pride parade passes down Market Street. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sunday’s Pride parade is the traditional annual climax to Pride Celebration weekend, held on the final full weekend of June, also known as Pride Month in San Francisco, a four-week festival of conferences, shows, concerts, parties and political events dedicated to the celebration and advancement of LGBTQ+ rights and identity.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11953672","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/06/RS31561_62418_AW_Pride_09-qut-1180x787.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Paul Aguilar is a Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal of the San Francisco Pride parade, a recognition earned for his many years of advocacy for those — like him — who live with HIV and AIDS, to which he’s lost many friends. He’s been attending pride marches since the mid-70s, and says his first Pride experience was “life-changing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was one unmistakable feeling, and that was the feeling of acceptance. This was my tribe. This is what I’ve been looking for. These were my people,” said Aguilar. “We danced that pain away, and that insecurity away, and that anger away. And now we dance to remember those we’ve lost and to celebrate them. That’s also part of Pride.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954006\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954006 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Tiffany Howard, 49, of Orange County closes her eyes during a paint job as she waits for the Pride parade to begin in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1335\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66570_230625-sf-pride-04-ks-KQED-1920x1282.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tiffany Howard, 49, of Orange County closes her eyes during a paint job as she waits for the Pride parade to begin. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Pride Parade is not without its controversies, including the issue of corporate sponsorship, with many feeling that these have no place at a Pride celebration, and also because some corporations — like \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/target-lgbtq-pride-month-bathing-suits-21393e91a8eb6110b46623d17a3bf507\">Target\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/bud-light-transgender-dylan-mulvaney-nike-2fe1425ba09a3f0e271fda0ae4b67434\">Bud Light\u003c/a> — have backtracked on their support when faced with a backlash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954022\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954022 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Henry Aho, 34, waves to onlookers as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66596_230625-sf-pride-27-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Henry Aho, 34, waves to onlookers as the Pride parade passes down Market Street. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Amy Sueyoshi, who is provost and vice president of academic affairs at San Francisco State University and a former member of the SF Pride board, said she thinks the founders might indeed consider today’s Pride organizers to have “sold out” and said that even today, many who attend are shocked at the level of corporate sponsorship. However, she also thinks that the Pride celebration in San Francisco has really shown how the queer community and queer liberation “can be a mainstream movement,” and that it “demonstrates how corporations and cities can invest in queer liberation and in gay pride and not have any detrimental consequences.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sueyoshi warned against taking Pride for granted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>“\u003c/strong>As much as we all can be critical of pride … the truth is that so many people come to San Francisco not just for queer liberation, but for other types of home that the city provides as well,” Sueyoshi said. “And so it’s important, I think, to invest in that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954019\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954019 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Kit Lem, 47, a legislative aide for San Francisco Supervisor Joel Engardio, hands out bead necklaces as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66593_230625-sf-pride-25-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kit Lam, 47, a legislative aide for San Francisco Supervisor Joel Engardio, hands out bead necklaces at the Pride parade. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Another controversial issue involves the police. Many in the LGBTQ+ community object to uniformed SFPD officers marching — even if they are LGBTQ+ — citing a history of abuses committed by law enforcement against the LGBTQ+ community. Nevertheless, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11917710/sfpd-officers-to-march-in-pride-amid-complicated-feelings-uniform-compromise\">the compromise reached between San Francisco Pride and the SFPD last year\u003c/a> held firm for 2023, whereby on-duty members of the SFPD Pride Alliance march in uniform while others march without uniforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954013\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954013 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"State Senator Scott Weiner waves to onlookers from atop a truck as the Pride parade passes down Market Street in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66582_230625-sf-pride-14-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">State Senator Scott Wiener waves to onlookers from atop a truck at the Pride parade. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But more than anything, Pride is about celebration and the joy of just letting loose and being who you are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954007\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954007 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Cathy Webber, 66, waves a trans flag as she walks down Market Street in downtown San Francisco during the Pride parade on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66573_230625-sf-pride-06-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cathy Webber, 66, waves a trans flag as she walks down Market Street. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We support gay marriage, we support trans marriage, we support LGBTQ rights,” said Cathy Webber, a member of the\u003cb> \u003c/b>Church Ladies for Gay Rights group that marched in the parade. “A lot of churches don’t, and we believe that that’s wrong.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sam Douglas from Oakdale said the parade was an opportunity to push back against discrimination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With everything that’s been going on in the past few months, this is just another way to say s—- it, honestly, it’s for everyone else and saying, ‘you know, we can’t have this again,'” said Douglas. “I know there’s been a lot of hate towards LGBT and like I think that this [parade] is just the opposite of that and it’s nice to see that a lot of people are against [hate].”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11954008\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11954008 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"Angel Vidaña kisses partner Hector Topete as they wait for the 2023 Pride parade to begin in downtown San Francisco on June 25, 2023.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66574_230625-sf-pride-01-ks-KQED-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Angel Vidaña kisses partner Hector Topete as they wait for the Pride parade to begin. \u003ccite>(Kori Suzuki/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hector Topete attended the parade for the first time with his partner Angel Vidaña.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a very new experience for me. So I was very nervous at first, but within minutes, I just felt so comfortable being myself around [Angel],” said Topete. “What I like about being right here, right now is I just see myself as a normal person. I don’t see myself as being different. I just feel like I’m someone who belongs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Rachael Vasquez, Annelise Finney, Kelly O’Mara, Lakshmi Sarah and Attila Pelit contributed reporting to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11953967/sf-pride-2023-marks-53-years-of-lgbtq-joy-freedom-and-defiance","authors":["236"],"categories":["news_29992","news_223","news_31795","news_8"],"tags":["news_27626","news_20004","news_20003","news_19345","news_26066","news_26070","news_1345"],"featImg":"news_11954015","label":"news"},"news_11953954":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11953954","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11953954","score":null,"sort":[1687707645000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"sf-pride-looking-back-and-moving-forward","title":"KQED's Pride Radio Special","publishDate":1687707645,"format":"audio","headTitle":"KQED’s Pride Radio Special | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>This Sunday, thousands of Bay Area residents will hit the streets as part of San Francisco’s annual Pride parade, one of the largest and longest running pride celebrations in the nation. In honor of Pride events happening throughout the Bay Area, KQED is digging into the history of the city’s Pride festivities and focusing on local efforts to celebrate and protect LGBTQ rights in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tune in to our Pride radio special on Sunday morning to hear from experts, local leaders and community members about what makes this year’s Pride celebrations especially important.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jump To: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#elders\">Elders speak: ‘It wasn’t a parade, it was a march’\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#travel\">Why California is considering tossing out its state-funded travel ban\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#skaters\">Queer skaters of Rockridge\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#laureate\">San Francisco’s first-ever drag laureate\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#aguilar\">Paul Aguilar: Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal of San Francisco Pride\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#corporate\">The tension around corporate sponsorship\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#marriage\">The 10th anniversary of the end of Proposition 8 in California\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#story\">Drag King story time\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"#elders\">\u003c/a>Elders speak: ‘It wasn’t a parade, it was a march’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The voices of two elder queer people and their memories of early Pride events, how the event has changed over the years, and how they understand the value of the parade today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the summer of 1970, gay activists commemorating the uprising at Stonewall in New York, marched down San Francisco’s Polk Street. There wasn’t really a planned route and no one had a permit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I heard about a march. And it’s very important to distinguish it wasn’t a parade, it was a march,” said former state Assemblymember Tom Ammiano, who was in his 30s at the time. He recalls how he had a little sign that said “gay teacher,” and they walked down the street with hardly anybody on the sidewalk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gwen Craigg, former president of the Harvey Milk LGBT Democratic Club, was in her twenties and had recently moved from Atlanta. Throughout the 1970s participation in the march grew, and in 1973 an estimated 42,000 people took part. Two years later that number almost doubled, and this year the City of San Francisco is expecting half a million people to participate in today’s Pride festivities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/EldersSpeak.mp3\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"travel\">\u003c/a>Why California is considering tossing out its state-funded travel ban\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At a time when nearly 300 anti-LGBTQ+ laws are being considered in state legislatures nationwide, California is considering doing away with its nearly seven-year-old ban on state-funded travel to states that discriminate against LGBTQ+ people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senator Toni Atkins introduced a bill in March proposing to undo that travel ban and replace it with something called the Bridge Project. Senator Atkins is openly lesbian and grew up in rural Virginia. She remembers what it was like growing up as a young person in a place that was hostile to gay and lesbian people. She proposes that rescinding this travel ban will enable people who support LGBTQ rights to go to these places and promote a positive message of inclusion. She adds that this would be more effective than trying to punish these states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/TravelBan.mp3\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"skaters\">\u003c/a>Queer skaters of Rockridge\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps/youth/sports_participation_bans\">In the last two years, 22 states in the U.S.\u003c/a> have passed legislation banning transgender students from participating in a sports team aligned with their gender identity. But here in the Bay Area, a community of queer and transgender people are using skateboarding as a form of queer expression. “It’s kind of the perfect place because you have this queer mecca and this skate mecca,” said Jackie Cotteril, a skater from Southern California who now lives and skates in Berkeley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What was once a male-dominated sport has outgrown the gender binary in the Bay Area. Oakland-based skate collective Unity Skateboards hosts queer and trans skate meetups, while making skateboards that depict gay love.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cotteril says the queer skate community she found when she moved here helped get her back into skating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/Queer-skaters-of-Rockridge.mp3\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"laureate\">\u003c/a>San Francisco’s first-ever drag laureate\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>San Francisco made history last month by naming its first-ever drag laureate, D’arcy Drollinger, who has been doing drag shows since the 1990’s. As drag laureate of San Francisco — not only the first title of its kind in the city, but also the nation — Drollinger says he’ll serve as an ambassador for local drag artists and the city’s nightlife.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s drag scene is one that Drollinger, who was born here, has developed a deep affection for since returning to the city in 2011, because of how local artists have changed the face of drag. Drollinger is also owner and artistic director of OASIS, an internationally acclaimed drag nightclub and cabaret that’s home to a strong, inclusive community, which, during the height of the pandemic, organized services like \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-ap-top-news-ca-state-wire-entertainment-lifestyle-590ccabde9a3be69abdb18809742d984\">Meals on Heels\u003c/a>, a drag meal delivery service for those in need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/Drag_Laureate.mp3\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"aguilar\">\u003c/a>Paul Aguilar: Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal of San Francisco Pride\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Paul Aguilar is the Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal in this years Pride Parade. In this interview, he shares his early memories of Pride, his experience of being HIV+, of how he copes with the trauma of losing friends to the disease.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aguilar has been going to Pride in San Francisco for decades and can still remember his first back in 1976. He delivered newspapers back then, and after he finished his shift he rode his bike all the way down to Golden Gate Park, where the march used to end.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was one feeling. One unmistakable feeling. And that was the feeling of acceptance. This was my tribe. This is what I’ve been looking for,” he said. “These were my people. It was a life-changing moment for me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This year’s Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal recognition is in honor of his years of advocating for people living with HIV and AIDS.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/PaulAguilar.mp3\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"corporate\">\u003c/a>The tension around corporate sponsorship\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>After an ad for Bud Light featuring trans influencer Dylan Mulvaney caused a backlash that led to a dip in sales, the company put two marketing executives on leave. Then, Target faced its own boycott over a Pride product line. All this has had SF Pride and similar organizations thinking about the role of corporate sponsors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Organizers of the parade say they’re facing mounting costs, so they’ve continued to draw on financial support from corporate sponsors. The practice isn’t new, but there’s a renewed debate over the role of corporate sponsors, which have been facing heavy criticism from both conservatives and the LGBTQ community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re always trying to make sure we survive to provide a great weekend for the city, but also to do the right thing. And that’s quite a difficult position sometimes,” said Suzanne Ford, Executive Director of SF Pride. She says costs for events have gone up 40 percent post-pandemic – to about $4 million – and more than half of their funding is generated by corporate contributions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/The-tension-of-corporate-sponsorship.mp3\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"marriage\">\u003c/a>The 10th anniversary of the end of Proposition 8 in California\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>June 26th is the 10\u003csup>th\u003c/sup> anniversary of the day same-sex marriages were effectively legalized in California. The battle to overturn Proposition 8, a voter-approved measure which banned same-sex marriages in the state in 2008, was the subject of a long legal battle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shortly after it went into effect, two same-sex couples sued to block the law, in a battle that ultimately ended at the U.S. Supreme Court. Its reversal paved the way for marriage equality in the country, but the trial was contentious, and included intimate testimony from the couples.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We hear from the two same-sex couples who challenged Proposition 8 in the courts, as they reflect on the legacy of that trial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/Prop8Anniversary.mp3\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"story\">\u003c/a>Drag King story time\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Drag story hours — where drag performers read children’s books to families at libraries and bookstores — started in San Francisco in 2015 and grew into a global phenomenon. Performers say they hope to show children a world where everyone can be themselves. But in recent months, drag story hours in the Bay Area have been targeted by anti-LGBTQ protestors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This story, Worm Loves Worm, written by JJ Austrian and illustrated by Mike Curto, is performed by Drag King VERA! co-director of Drag Story Hour Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/Drag-Storytime-Finney-Feature-cjbv2-1.mp3\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This weekend radio special was produced by Azul Dahlstrom-Eckman, Rachael Vasquez, and Annelise Finney. This segment was mixed by Jim Bennett and Chris Beale. Digital production by Lakshmi Sarah and Attila Pelit.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Tune in to our Pride radio special to hear from local leaders and community members about what makes this year's Pride celebrations especially important.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1696553678,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":1586},"headData":{"title":"KQED's Pride Radio Special | KQED","description":"Tune in to our Pride radio special to hear from local leaders and community members about what makes this year's Pride celebrations especially important.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"KQED's Pride Radio Special","datePublished":"2023-06-25T15:40:45.000Z","dateModified":"2023-10-06T00:54:38.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"audioUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/pridefull.mp3","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11953954/sf-pride-looking-back-and-moving-forward","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>This Sunday, thousands of Bay Area residents will hit the streets as part of San Francisco’s annual Pride parade, one of the largest and longest running pride celebrations in the nation. In honor of Pride events happening throughout the Bay Area, KQED is digging into the history of the city’s Pride festivities and focusing on local efforts to celebrate and protect LGBTQ rights in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tune in to our Pride radio special on Sunday morning to hear from experts, local leaders and community members about what makes this year’s Pride celebrations especially important.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jump To: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#elders\">Elders speak: ‘It wasn’t a parade, it was a march’\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#travel\">Why California is considering tossing out its state-funded travel ban\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#skaters\">Queer skaters of Rockridge\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#laureate\">San Francisco’s first-ever drag laureate\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#aguilar\">Paul Aguilar: Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal of San Francisco Pride\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#corporate\">The tension around corporate sponsorship\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#marriage\">The 10th anniversary of the end of Proposition 8 in California\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#story\">Drag King story time\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"#elders\">\u003c/a>Elders speak: ‘It wasn’t a parade, it was a march’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The voices of two elder queer people and their memories of early Pride events, how the event has changed over the years, and how they understand the value of the parade today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the summer of 1970, gay activists commemorating the uprising at Stonewall in New York, marched down San Francisco’s Polk Street. There wasn’t really a planned route and no one had a permit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I heard about a march. And it’s very important to distinguish it wasn’t a parade, it was a march,” said former state Assemblymember Tom Ammiano, who was in his 30s at the time. He recalls how he had a little sign that said “gay teacher,” and they walked down the street with hardly anybody on the sidewalk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gwen Craigg, former president of the Harvey Milk LGBT Democratic Club, was in her twenties and had recently moved from Atlanta. Throughout the 1970s participation in the march grew, and in 1973 an estimated 42,000 people took part. Two years later that number almost doubled, and this year the City of San Francisco is expecting half a million people to participate in today’s Pride festivities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/EldersSpeak.mp3","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"travel\">\u003c/a>Why California is considering tossing out its state-funded travel ban\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At a time when nearly 300 anti-LGBTQ+ laws are being considered in state legislatures nationwide, California is considering doing away with its nearly seven-year-old ban on state-funded travel to states that discriminate against LGBTQ+ people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senator Toni Atkins introduced a bill in March proposing to undo that travel ban and replace it with something called the Bridge Project. Senator Atkins is openly lesbian and grew up in rural Virginia. She remembers what it was like growing up as a young person in a place that was hostile to gay and lesbian people. She proposes that rescinding this travel ban will enable people who support LGBTQ rights to go to these places and promote a positive message of inclusion. She adds that this would be more effective than trying to punish these states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/TravelBan.mp3","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"skaters\">\u003c/a>Queer skaters of Rockridge\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps/youth/sports_participation_bans\">In the last two years, 22 states in the U.S.\u003c/a> have passed legislation banning transgender students from participating in a sports team aligned with their gender identity. But here in the Bay Area, a community of queer and transgender people are using skateboarding as a form of queer expression. “It’s kind of the perfect place because you have this queer mecca and this skate mecca,” said Jackie Cotteril, a skater from Southern California who now lives and skates in Berkeley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What was once a male-dominated sport has outgrown the gender binary in the Bay Area. Oakland-based skate collective Unity Skateboards hosts queer and trans skate meetups, while making skateboards that depict gay love.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cotteril says the queer skate community she found when she moved here helped get her back into skating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/Queer-skaters-of-Rockridge.mp3","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"laureate\">\u003c/a>San Francisco’s first-ever drag laureate\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>San Francisco made history last month by naming its first-ever drag laureate, D’arcy Drollinger, who has been doing drag shows since the 1990’s. As drag laureate of San Francisco — not only the first title of its kind in the city, but also the nation — Drollinger says he’ll serve as an ambassador for local drag artists and the city’s nightlife.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s drag scene is one that Drollinger, who was born here, has developed a deep affection for since returning to the city in 2011, because of how local artists have changed the face of drag. Drollinger is also owner and artistic director of OASIS, an internationally acclaimed drag nightclub and cabaret that’s home to a strong, inclusive community, which, during the height of the pandemic, organized services like \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-ap-top-news-ca-state-wire-entertainment-lifestyle-590ccabde9a3be69abdb18809742d984\">Meals on Heels\u003c/a>, a drag meal delivery service for those in need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/Drag_Laureate.mp3","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"aguilar\">\u003c/a>Paul Aguilar: Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal of San Francisco Pride\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Paul Aguilar is the Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal in this years Pride Parade. In this interview, he shares his early memories of Pride, his experience of being HIV+, of how he copes with the trauma of losing friends to the disease.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aguilar has been going to Pride in San Francisco for decades and can still remember his first back in 1976. He delivered newspapers back then, and after he finished his shift he rode his bike all the way down to Golden Gate Park, where the march used to end.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was one feeling. One unmistakable feeling. And that was the feeling of acceptance. This was my tribe. This is what I’ve been looking for,” he said. “These were my people. It was a life-changing moment for me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This year’s Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal recognition is in honor of his years of advocating for people living with HIV and AIDS.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/PaulAguilar.mp3","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"corporate\">\u003c/a>The tension around corporate sponsorship\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>After an ad for Bud Light featuring trans influencer Dylan Mulvaney caused a backlash that led to a dip in sales, the company put two marketing executives on leave. Then, Target faced its own boycott over a Pride product line. All this has had SF Pride and similar organizations thinking about the role of corporate sponsors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Organizers of the parade say they’re facing mounting costs, so they’ve continued to draw on financial support from corporate sponsors. The practice isn’t new, but there’s a renewed debate over the role of corporate sponsors, which have been facing heavy criticism from both conservatives and the LGBTQ community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re always trying to make sure we survive to provide a great weekend for the city, but also to do the right thing. And that’s quite a difficult position sometimes,” said Suzanne Ford, Executive Director of SF Pride. She says costs for events have gone up 40 percent post-pandemic – to about $4 million – and more than half of their funding is generated by corporate contributions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/The-tension-of-corporate-sponsorship.mp3","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"marriage\">\u003c/a>The 10th anniversary of the end of Proposition 8 in California\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>June 26th is the 10\u003csup>th\u003c/sup> anniversary of the day same-sex marriages were effectively legalized in California. The battle to overturn Proposition 8, a voter-approved measure which banned same-sex marriages in the state in 2008, was the subject of a long legal battle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shortly after it went into effect, two same-sex couples sued to block the law, in a battle that ultimately ended at the U.S. Supreme Court. Its reversal paved the way for marriage equality in the country, but the trial was contentious, and included intimate testimony from the couples.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We hear from the two same-sex couples who challenged Proposition 8 in the courts, as they reflect on the legacy of that trial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/Prop8Anniversary.mp3","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"story\">\u003c/a>Drag King story time\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Drag story hours — where drag performers read children’s books to families at libraries and bookstores — started in San Francisco in 2015 and grew into a global phenomenon. Performers say they hope to show children a world where everyone can be themselves. But in recent months, drag story hours in the Bay Area have been targeted by anti-LGBTQ protestors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This story, Worm Loves Worm, written by JJ Austrian and illustrated by Mike Curto, is performed by Drag King VERA! co-director of Drag Story Hour Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/Drag-Storytime-Finney-Feature-cjbv2-1.mp3","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This weekend radio special was produced by Azul Dahlstrom-Eckman, Rachael Vasquez, and Annelise Finney. This segment was mixed by Jim Bennett and Chris Beale. 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At 6 p.m., marchers will make their way from Dolores Park, down Market Street, to Turk and Taylor streets — the Tenderloin site of the 1966 Compton’s Cafeteria riot, when trans San Franciscans pushed back against police discrimination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the celebration also comes just two months after the death of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11950796/banko-brown-family-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-walgreens-security-company\">Banko Brown\u003c/a>, a Black transgender man who was shot and killed by Walgreens security guard Michael Earl-Wayne Anthony in late April, after allegedly shoplifting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While locally \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11949558/district-attorney-releases-video-of-banko-brown-shooting-at-walgreens-wont-files-charges-against-security-gaurd\">the investigation into Brown’s killing has been dropped by District Attorney Brooke Jenkins\u003c/a>, Brown’s death arrives at a time of unprecedented legal attacks on trans lives throughout the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights\">The ACLU is tracking 491 anti-LGBTQ+ bills in the U.S.\u003c/a> Those laws target many facets of trans people’s lives, from playing sports to using bathrooms, weakening nondiscrimination laws and banning medically necessary health care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The situation isn’t much better close to home. In San Francisco, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ourtranshomesf.org/about\">transgender people are 18 times more likely to be unhoused than cisgender folks\u003c/a>, according to Our Trans Home SF. One out of two trans people have been unhoused, and 70% of them report being harassed when staying in homeless shelters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown had a similar experience, spending years struggling to find stable housing and at times being unhoused, including in the days leading up to his death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='More Stories on Banko Brown' tag='banko-brown']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s in this time of turmoil, hate and hope that KQED reached out to trans people in Brown’s life who were part of his community at the Young Women’s Freedom Center, where Brown sought support and, eventually, became a staff community organizer: Xavier Davenport, 36, a Black transmasculine man who was Brown’s mentor; Kazani Kalani Finao, 33, a Samoan transmasculine man who took the role of community sibling; and Juju Pikes-Prince, 24, a Black transgender woman who was a trans auntie to other trans people at the center, including Brown. Davenport and Kalani Finao were born and raised in San Francisco. Pikes-Prince was born in Daly City and raised in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This wide-ranging conversation aimed to find the commonalities in their experiences and Brown’s, navigating homelessness in San Francisco, acceptance in their families, and how trans people can find joy, despite the obstacles that lie in their path.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: We have some weighty topics to talk about today, but people aren’t just defined by trauma. Tell me a bit about how you met Banko Brown and your fond memories of him.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao\u003cem>: \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>I met Banko through Young Women’s Freedom Center. We like to call it their “center sibling.” So he’s a center sibling of mine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But on a personal note, we just had amazing, great conversations personally. Just always sparring with each other, bouncing back with fun ideas. He was a bright, outgoing person. Like conversation was always immaculate, always amazing, and he was a visionary. The struggle not only brought us together, but like I was able to like really build a relationship with him based on his gifts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953513\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11953513 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A young Samoan descent man wearing large glasses with a goatee and moustache and curly brown hair leans against a wall in a quilted, lavender bomber jacket and alight gray T-shirt.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kazani Kalani Finao poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>He became my mentee [at Young Women’s Freedom Center]. That was during the pandemic. We were focused on a lot of projects that were going to empower trans masculinity, empower the trans masculine identities that were coming up in [the] community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so, I wanted to make sure we had a group during the pandemic, like a peer-to-peer support group. The pandemic was very hard for a lot of transmasculine folks. A lot of them were essential workers. A lot of them lost jobs. A lot of them were creators that lost jobs. Some of them were sex workers that lost jobs. So my focus was to empower those people and make sure that they were heard and make sure that they could have someone to talk to. And so, Banko would come to those groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He enjoyed being able to be around other transmasculine people, focusing on how we can do something different for each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You said he felt like a visionary. Do you remember the first time you were sitting across, talking to Banko, and thought, “This person is just so amazing.”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>When he was advocating on behalf of himself, nobody would tell him what is best for him. He was always very, very stern, but very confident in what he was telling me about anything, whether it was advocating on behalf of himself or on behalf of others.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Kazani Kalani Finao, community sibling\"]‘He was very creative with his swag, his drip. He was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me.’[/pullquote]He was very creative with his swag, his drip. He was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me. I always would share with him, you give me so much confidence. You give me so much courage for me to be me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What I remember of him is drip, sauce, smile, hugs, goofiness. He funny. He hella funny.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He [also] pushed me to always have hard conversations, being honest for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Banko Brown reportedly was unhoused at the time he was killed. He had slept on BART at times and stayed with friends. Is this a familiar experience, both seeing it with Banko and in your own lives and trans communities? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao\u003c/strong>: So I have been homeless a lot in my life. I grew up here [in San Francisco] — you know, my first moments of living life on Earth, my family was experiencing homelessness. And then, when we did kind of get on our feet, and I’m speaking more of like my family, my mother, my grandmother, my great-great-grandmother. You know, those were the people that raised me. We floated in and out of housing, homelessness a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953512\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11953512 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A Black man with short black hair and a sort of long black beard and a nose-ring holds a small dog and stands against a blank wall. He wears a white T-shirt and a gray cardigan sweater.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Xavier Davenport with his dog in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It’s disgusting to live in the shelters. You always end up with some type of bedbug outbreak, MRSA outbreak. You got people fighting. When you put trans people in the shelter process, people talk bad about you. They treat you messed up, but they also use you for their sexual perversions. And that’s all trans people. And then, when you include a transmasculine person into the entire bit, they’re really mistreated. Right. Because then you have people that want to fight you because you think you’re a man. And so, they want to show you that you’re not a man. And so, you have to now deal [with] and navigate that experience as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so I said, the hell with that. I started just staying with people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>When I first had met Banko, he was housed at some point. Then later on down the line when we lost another trans sister in the community, that’s when stuff started to come out like, oh, he’s looking for housing. He has nowhere to go. So he was struggling at some point around that time. And there’s only so much a person can do for an individual, you know, and you’re also struggling, too.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Juju Pikes-Prince, community auntie\"]‘Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. It’s hard and it’s expensive, no matter what. … Shelters don’t protect my people either. Our stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out.’[/pullquote]Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. It’s hard and it’s expensive, no matter what. Being homeless is still expensive. I was homeless for about two years. I was living with a dude and it just wasn’t working out. But then even shelters, shelters don’t protect you. Shelters don’t protect my people either. Our stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out. People look at us like we’re nasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’re mostly impacted [because] we’re probably on drugs, sex-working to find shelter, can’t get jobs because of who we are. It’s hard out here. I’m a sex worker, so I know, I know what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You all touched on discrimination in the homelessness process, to some extent. But I wonder if you could talk about discrimination in a different context — the day Banko Brown was killed by a security guard in Walgreens, in late April. \u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>Some folks in the trans community said they sensed discrimination at play. Some people pushed back, pointing out that the security guard was also Black. I was hoping you could expand on what you suspect that discrimination could have been, from your own experiences.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>When you are a young Black, transmasculine-identified person, people see that. He walks in, he’s dark-skinned. He has a hat on, a T-shirt. And he looks very masculine. He has a little bit of a goatee growing in. People see that. And as another Black man, or being another man, there is a fight for power. There is a fight for or struggle for who is the man in this situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the thought process is, “You look like a little boy, or you’re trying to pretend to be a little boy.” Because let’s be clear. Banko had not had top surgery. He had not been going through that part of medical transitioning. He wasn’t stable enough in his housing to even get through that part of this process and the things that he wanted to do. So you have a masculine person with visible breasts coming at you. You are going to now struggle for your manhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s something that for people that are even lesbians who are more masculine looking, there is a struggle between men and any form of masculinity that, to them, isn’t necessarily real. Because, “You’re a woman. You can’t possibly be as masculine as me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I know this. I’ve dealt with this my entire life. I deal with it from police officers. I deal with it from people in my community. I deal with that from people on the streets. I deal with that at all aspects of my life. Somebody always wants to show me who is the man.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You have a person with the gun who’s struggling for masculine power, then you put a powerful piece in his hand. You end up with this situation with Banko and many other situations around the country with transmasculine folks being killed. His is not the first. Unfortunately, it will not be the last. But this is the state of our country and what we live in right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>And these are cases that are not getting covered, of Black trans men getting killed. We need to come together and start putting it out there so we all can be seen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We’ve seen a wave of conversations in public about Banko Brown’s identity since he was killed. And his death comes amid a national wave of anti-trans laws, as conservative lawmakers increasingly target the transgender community. \u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>So I’d like to talk about acceptance. Let’s start close to home. Were you accepted by your family when you came out? What was that like? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>Me and my mother understand what’s happening. Because my mother birthed me. But my father and my siblings that my father has, my father’s children, they have a bit of a hard time. And so, we don’t necessarily talk the way that people would think family should or relatives should. But my mother respects who I am. My mother understands what has taken place. And she’s accepted that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>My family, they understand, they’re very understanding. At first, it was tough, they just didn’t get it, the lifestyle. But when I told my mom everything and broke it down — you don’t want a dead child, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My father, on the other hand, he’s more big on education. He told me, he don’t care what I do. He wants me to graduate. I got it easy, in a way, but I still had it hard and I still struggle. Identity came into play. I’m just trying to come into myself, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You know [with] my mom, I was blunt, I do sex work, and I do this and that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And she was understanding?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I mean, she had to. I’m her child. I think really, partially, where she kind of understood after so long of me having to remind her because it took a time. So just a street life, how the street economy is, and not to put her business out there, but how she had to navigate homelessness herself and how she had to go about business to support about four children at the time or three. She understood: “As long as you’re safe, I love you.” We’ve got a good relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953511\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11953511 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A young Black woman with short black hair, lash extensions, black sunglasses on top of her head and a crop-top black hoodie, with long pink fingernails and sunglasses, sits on a blue sofa in a brightly lit room.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Juju Pikes-Prince poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>I just want to say this, too, because there was narratives being painted [publicly about Banko’s relationship with his family]. Banko do have family, that do care and love. But there was, at some point, everyone went their own ways. So I do just want to say that on the record he did have family, that did care and love. But he was looking for space in people’s hearts to fill that void that he has been missing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>My mother told me straight up, “Be you, son. Be you, son.” And for me, that’s a f—— privilege. Like, you know, for someone who’s being who they are, like me, and for my mom to just show up right away, how she was able to just accept me for me. It was just like a restart of our relationship as a mother and son today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s just a gift to me, you know? And so, what I’ve been doing with my folks is just like sharing my mama with them. Her strength is everything. She’s also someone as a queer being. Coming from a Samoan family and being someone growing up in the ’80s, being this queer, young Samoan girl who also is like exploring identity. And then, also exploring sexuality. She didn’t give a s—. She was like, I am gonna do me.[aside postID=news_11953672 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/06/RS31561_62418_AW_Pride_09-qut-1180x787.jpg']\u003cstrong>When you say you share your mama, do you mean you share her with other trans people who don’t have that?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Everybody. Trans people, all people. People who struggle. Like, my mom just signs up like, “I love you, I’ll f— with you.” And so, I shared my mama with my folks. And it’s all love. It’s my duty to make sure to create spaces for folks to be themselves. I just have to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We’ve talked a lot about weighty things. Hardships. But the goal is joy, right? I want you to tell me what your joy looks like.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I would say living and finding purpose, picking up someone else’s purpose when they couldn’t find their purpose. And knowing that I’m here and I can share some type of story for someone. Getting it out there, and hopefully helping the next person, the next generation, to continue to do this advocacy work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>I’m hella passionate about young folks. We say kids are the future. We got to really mean that s—.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>My joy looks like the rest of the work that I do, working with transmasculine-identified people. I do that even in my leisure time. The Bay Area Trans Masculine Collective is doing a second premiere of a calendar that we started last year with a group of transmasculine folks to continue to ensure that transmasculine folks are seen and can receive joy in seeing and having representation of themselves in all bodies, and different cultures and ethnicities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Banko Brown was shot and killed by a Walgreens security guard in April. For the 20th anniversary of the San Francisco Trans March, we talked to Brown's community.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1687649791,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":51,"wordCount":2899},"headData":{"title":"What Banko Brown's Queer, Trans Community Says They Need for Safety, Joy in SF | KQED","description":"Banko Brown was shot and killed by a Walgreens security guard in April. For the 20th anniversary of the San Francisco Trans March, we talked to Brown's community.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"What Banko Brown's Queer, Trans Community Says They Need for Safety, Joy in SF","datePublished":"2023-06-23T20:04:28.000Z","dateModified":"2023-06-24T23:36:31.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11953821/what-banko-browns-queer-trans-community-says-they-need-for-safety-joy-in-sf","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Celebration and sorrow often intermix.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s with that in mind that Friday, the San Francisco Trans March is commemorating 20 years of trans beauty and resilience. At 6 p.m., marchers will make their way from Dolores Park, down Market Street, to Turk and Taylor streets — the Tenderloin site of the 1966 Compton’s Cafeteria riot, when trans San Franciscans pushed back against police discrimination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the celebration also comes just two months after the death of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11950796/banko-brown-family-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-walgreens-security-company\">Banko Brown\u003c/a>, a Black transgender man who was shot and killed by Walgreens security guard Michael Earl-Wayne Anthony in late April, after allegedly shoplifting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While locally \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11949558/district-attorney-releases-video-of-banko-brown-shooting-at-walgreens-wont-files-charges-against-security-gaurd\">the investigation into Brown’s killing has been dropped by District Attorney Brooke Jenkins\u003c/a>, Brown’s death arrives at a time of unprecedented legal attacks on trans lives throughout the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights\">The ACLU is tracking 491 anti-LGBTQ+ bills in the U.S.\u003c/a> Those laws target many facets of trans people’s lives, from playing sports to using bathrooms, weakening nondiscrimination laws and banning medically necessary health care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The situation isn’t much better close to home. In San Francisco, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ourtranshomesf.org/about\">transgender people are 18 times more likely to be unhoused than cisgender folks\u003c/a>, according to Our Trans Home SF. One out of two trans people have been unhoused, and 70% of them report being harassed when staying in homeless shelters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown had a similar experience, spending years struggling to find stable housing and at times being unhoused, including in the days leading up to his death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"More Stories on Banko Brown ","tag":"banko-brown"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s in this time of turmoil, hate and hope that KQED reached out to trans people in Brown’s life who were part of his community at the Young Women’s Freedom Center, where Brown sought support and, eventually, became a staff community organizer: Xavier Davenport, 36, a Black transmasculine man who was Brown’s mentor; Kazani Kalani Finao, 33, a Samoan transmasculine man who took the role of community sibling; and Juju Pikes-Prince, 24, a Black transgender woman who was a trans auntie to other trans people at the center, including Brown. Davenport and Kalani Finao were born and raised in San Francisco. Pikes-Prince was born in Daly City and raised in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This wide-ranging conversation aimed to find the commonalities in their experiences and Brown’s, navigating homelessness in San Francisco, acceptance in their families, and how trans people can find joy, despite the obstacles that lie in their path.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: We have some weighty topics to talk about today, but people aren’t just defined by trauma. Tell me a bit about how you met Banko Brown and your fond memories of him.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao\u003cem>: \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>I met Banko through Young Women’s Freedom Center. We like to call it their “center sibling.” So he’s a center sibling of mine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But on a personal note, we just had amazing, great conversations personally. Just always sparring with each other, bouncing back with fun ideas. He was a bright, outgoing person. Like conversation was always immaculate, always amazing, and he was a visionary. The struggle not only brought us together, but like I was able to like really build a relationship with him based on his gifts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953513\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11953513 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A young Samoan descent man wearing large glasses with a goatee and moustache and curly brown hair leans against a wall in a quilted, lavender bomber jacket and alight gray T-shirt.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kazani Kalani Finao poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>He became my mentee [at Young Women’s Freedom Center]. That was during the pandemic. We were focused on a lot of projects that were going to empower trans masculinity, empower the trans masculine identities that were coming up in [the] community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so, I wanted to make sure we had a group during the pandemic, like a peer-to-peer support group. The pandemic was very hard for a lot of transmasculine folks. A lot of them were essential workers. A lot of them lost jobs. A lot of them were creators that lost jobs. Some of them were sex workers that lost jobs. So my focus was to empower those people and make sure that they were heard and make sure that they could have someone to talk to. And so, Banko would come to those groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He enjoyed being able to be around other transmasculine people, focusing on how we can do something different for each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You said he felt like a visionary. Do you remember the first time you were sitting across, talking to Banko, and thought, “This person is just so amazing.”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>When he was advocating on behalf of himself, nobody would tell him what is best for him. He was always very, very stern, but very confident in what he was telling me about anything, whether it was advocating on behalf of himself or on behalf of others.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘He was very creative with his swag, his drip. He was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Kazani Kalani Finao, community sibling","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>He was very creative with his swag, his drip. He was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me. I always would share with him, you give me so much confidence. You give me so much courage for me to be me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What I remember of him is drip, sauce, smile, hugs, goofiness. He funny. He hella funny.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He [also] pushed me to always have hard conversations, being honest for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Banko Brown reportedly was unhoused at the time he was killed. He had slept on BART at times and stayed with friends. Is this a familiar experience, both seeing it with Banko and in your own lives and trans communities? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao\u003c/strong>: So I have been homeless a lot in my life. I grew up here [in San Francisco] — you know, my first moments of living life on Earth, my family was experiencing homelessness. And then, when we did kind of get on our feet, and I’m speaking more of like my family, my mother, my grandmother, my great-great-grandmother. You know, those were the people that raised me. We floated in and out of housing, homelessness a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953512\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11953512 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A Black man with short black hair and a sort of long black beard and a nose-ring holds a small dog and stands against a blank wall. He wears a white T-shirt and a gray cardigan sweater.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Xavier Davenport with his dog in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It’s disgusting to live in the shelters. You always end up with some type of bedbug outbreak, MRSA outbreak. You got people fighting. When you put trans people in the shelter process, people talk bad about you. They treat you messed up, but they also use you for their sexual perversions. And that’s all trans people. And then, when you include a transmasculine person into the entire bit, they’re really mistreated. Right. Because then you have people that want to fight you because you think you’re a man. And so, they want to show you that you’re not a man. And so, you have to now deal [with] and navigate that experience as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so I said, the hell with that. I started just staying with people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>When I first had met Banko, he was housed at some point. Then later on down the line when we lost another trans sister in the community, that’s when stuff started to come out like, oh, he’s looking for housing. He has nowhere to go. So he was struggling at some point around that time. And there’s only so much a person can do for an individual, you know, and you’re also struggling, too.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. It’s hard and it’s expensive, no matter what. … Shelters don’t protect my people either. Our stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Juju Pikes-Prince, community auntie","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. It’s hard and it’s expensive, no matter what. Being homeless is still expensive. I was homeless for about two years. I was living with a dude and it just wasn’t working out. But then even shelters, shelters don’t protect you. Shelters don’t protect my people either. Our stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out. People look at us like we’re nasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’re mostly impacted [because] we’re probably on drugs, sex-working to find shelter, can’t get jobs because of who we are. It’s hard out here. I’m a sex worker, so I know, I know what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You all touched on discrimination in the homelessness process, to some extent. But I wonder if you could talk about discrimination in a different context — the day Banko Brown was killed by a security guard in Walgreens, in late April. \u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>Some folks in the trans community said they sensed discrimination at play. Some people pushed back, pointing out that the security guard was also Black. I was hoping you could expand on what you suspect that discrimination could have been, from your own experiences.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>When you are a young Black, transmasculine-identified person, people see that. He walks in, he’s dark-skinned. He has a hat on, a T-shirt. And he looks very masculine. He has a little bit of a goatee growing in. People see that. And as another Black man, or being another man, there is a fight for power. There is a fight for or struggle for who is the man in this situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the thought process is, “You look like a little boy, or you’re trying to pretend to be a little boy.” Because let’s be clear. Banko had not had top surgery. He had not been going through that part of medical transitioning. He wasn’t stable enough in his housing to even get through that part of this process and the things that he wanted to do. So you have a masculine person with visible breasts coming at you. You are going to now struggle for your manhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s something that for people that are even lesbians who are more masculine looking, there is a struggle between men and any form of masculinity that, to them, isn’t necessarily real. Because, “You’re a woman. You can’t possibly be as masculine as me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I know this. I’ve dealt with this my entire life. I deal with it from police officers. I deal with it from people in my community. I deal with that from people on the streets. I deal with that at all aspects of my life. Somebody always wants to show me who is the man.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You have a person with the gun who’s struggling for masculine power, then you put a powerful piece in his hand. You end up with this situation with Banko and many other situations around the country with transmasculine folks being killed. His is not the first. Unfortunately, it will not be the last. But this is the state of our country and what we live in right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>And these are cases that are not getting covered, of Black trans men getting killed. We need to come together and start putting it out there so we all can be seen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We’ve seen a wave of conversations in public about Banko Brown’s identity since he was killed. And his death comes amid a national wave of anti-trans laws, as conservative lawmakers increasingly target the transgender community. \u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>So I’d like to talk about acceptance. Let’s start close to home. Were you accepted by your family when you came out? What was that like? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>Me and my mother understand what’s happening. Because my mother birthed me. But my father and my siblings that my father has, my father’s children, they have a bit of a hard time. And so, we don’t necessarily talk the way that people would think family should or relatives should. But my mother respects who I am. My mother understands what has taken place. And she’s accepted that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>My family, they understand, they’re very understanding. At first, it was tough, they just didn’t get it, the lifestyle. But when I told my mom everything and broke it down — you don’t want a dead child, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My father, on the other hand, he’s more big on education. He told me, he don’t care what I do. He wants me to graduate. I got it easy, in a way, but I still had it hard and I still struggle. Identity came into play. I’m just trying to come into myself, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You know [with] my mom, I was blunt, I do sex work, and I do this and that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And she was understanding?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I mean, she had to. I’m her child. I think really, partially, where she kind of understood after so long of me having to remind her because it took a time. So just a street life, how the street economy is, and not to put her business out there, but how she had to navigate homelessness herself and how she had to go about business to support about four children at the time or three. She understood: “As long as you’re safe, I love you.” We’ve got a good relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953511\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11953511 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A young Black woman with short black hair, lash extensions, black sunglasses on top of her head and a crop-top black hoodie, with long pink fingernails and sunglasses, sits on a blue sofa in a brightly lit room.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Juju Pikes-Prince poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>I just want to say this, too, because there was narratives being painted [publicly about Banko’s relationship with his family]. Banko do have family, that do care and love. But there was, at some point, everyone went their own ways. So I do just want to say that on the record he did have family, that did care and love. But he was looking for space in people’s hearts to fill that void that he has been missing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>My mother told me straight up, “Be you, son. Be you, son.” And for me, that’s a f—— privilege. Like, you know, for someone who’s being who they are, like me, and for my mom to just show up right away, how she was able to just accept me for me. It was just like a restart of our relationship as a mother and son today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s just a gift to me, you know? And so, what I’ve been doing with my folks is just like sharing my mama with them. Her strength is everything. She’s also someone as a queer being. Coming from a Samoan family and being someone growing up in the ’80s, being this queer, young Samoan girl who also is like exploring identity. And then, also exploring sexuality. She didn’t give a s—. She was like, I am gonna do me.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11953672","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/06/RS31561_62418_AW_Pride_09-qut-1180x787.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cstrong>When you say you share your mama, do you mean you share her with other trans people who don’t have that?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Everybody. Trans people, all people. People who struggle. Like, my mom just signs up like, “I love you, I’ll f— with you.” And so, I shared my mama with my folks. And it’s all love. It’s my duty to make sure to create spaces for folks to be themselves. I just have to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We’ve talked a lot about weighty things. Hardships. But the goal is joy, right? I want you to tell me what your joy looks like.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I would say living and finding purpose, picking up someone else’s purpose when they couldn’t find their purpose. And knowing that I’m here and I can share some type of story for someone. Getting it out there, and hopefully helping the next person, the next generation, to continue to do this advocacy work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>I’m hella passionate about young folks. We say kids are the future. We got to really mean that s—.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>My joy looks like the rest of the work that I do, working with transmasculine-identified people. I do that even in my leisure time. The Bay Area Trans Masculine Collective is doing a second premiere of a calendar that we started last year with a group of transmasculine folks to continue to ensure that transmasculine folks are seen and can receive joy in seeing and having representation of themselves in all bodies, and different cultures and ethnicities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11953821/what-banko-browns-queer-trans-community-says-they-need-for-safety-joy-in-sf","authors":["11690"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_32718","news_31298","news_23544","news_20003","news_25373","news_32719","news_3123","news_32846","news_29611","news_38","news_1579","news_32850"],"featImg":"news_11953518","label":"news"},"news_11950268":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11950268","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11950268","score":null,"sort":[1684790988000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"still-under-threat-on-harvey-milk-day-leading-activist-says-lgbtq-leaders-face-dangers-decades-after-assassination","title":"Still Under Threat: On Harvey Milk Day, Leading Activist Says LGBTQ+ Leaders Face Dangers Decades After Assassination","publishDate":1684790988,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Still Under Threat: On Harvey Milk Day, Leading Activist Says LGBTQ+ Leaders Face Dangers Decades After Assassination | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Beginning in 1977, for nearly a year, Harvey Milk served on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors — the first openly gay man to be elected to public office in California. He authored a bill banning discrimination in public places, housing and employment based on sexual orientation. He also promoted free public transportation, cheaper child care facilities and public oversight of the police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In November of 1978, Milk and San Francisco Mayor George Moscone were assassinated. The city mourned the loss of two of its most outspoken political leaders. Over the years, Harvey Milk became a martyr for causes of equality and social justice, and in 2009, the state of California designated May 22, Milk’s birthday, as Harvey Milk Day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a time when LGBTQ+ rights are under attack nationwide, with a string of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation introduced in dozens of state legislatures, the significance of Harvey Milk as a politician and activist resonates more than ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cleve Jones, author and longtime activist, talked to KQED’s Brian Watt about Milk as a person, a politician and an icon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Brian Watt: Can you take us back to when you met Harvey Milk? What was that like?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cleve Jones:\u003c/strong> Well, Harvey was quite a character. When I first met him, he was still emerging from his hippie phase, and he struck me as being entirely too old to be wearing a ponytail. But he and his partner, Scott Smith, had opened a little camera store on Castro Street, and I met him on Castro Street as he was registering voters. And that was our first conversation. I was struck by his warmth, though, and he ran for office a few times before he was elected.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And with each campaign, I could see that he became more serious, more grounded in the issues and more thoughtful in his approach, which was never a single-issue thing. He cared, of course, about gay rights, the community we now call LGBTQ+. But he cared about unions, he cared about seniors, he cared about kids. He was a very astute coalition builder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What are some of the things he taught you about coalition building and government and advocacy?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11933264,arts_13845645,arts_13814550\" label=\"Related Posts\"]I got to work with Harvey on the Coors beer boycott, which was one of the first, if not the very first, real alliance between the LGBTQ movement and the labor movement, specifically the Teamsters, who were on strike at the brewery in Golden, Colorado.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harvey saw an opportunity to get jobs for gay people, to support the union and to build a relationship that ended up being incredibly valuable, because just a couple of years later, we in California faced the Briggs Initiative, which was Proposition 6 of the 1978 November ballot. Prop. 6 would have essentially made it illegal for LGBT people and their supporters to work in any capacity in the public school system. And so those initial alliances with labor through the Teamsters then grew to a powerful alliance with the teachers union, the service workers union, and all the unions who saw that not just as an attack on gay people, but as an attack on workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11950270\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11950270\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899-800x578.jpg\" alt=\"A bespectacled white man with white hair and a green sweater smiles at the camera with arms crossed and a blurry city street behind him.\" width=\"800\" height=\"578\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899-800x578.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899-1020x737.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899-160x116.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cleve Jones, in the Castro District in San Francisco, on Feb. 16, 2017. \u003ccite>(Carlos Avila Gonzalez/The San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Milk also taught me a lot. He took me with him to City Hall when he got elected and I was a student intern in his office until he was shot. So I got to work on the inside and saw the nuts and bolts of creating legislation, the hearings, the committee work, all of that. But I will say one kind of overarching lesson I learned from him that has really stuck with me is the importance of communicating with plain language, and always trying to find common ground. He was really a genius at that. He could meet anybody, a worker in a union hall, a society lady on Nob Hill, cute street kids. He could talk to anybody, find the common ground, and create a deeper conversation about shared values and shared aspirations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You have been open about this before: You found Milk on the night that he was gunned down. What was going through your mind then? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was Nov. 27, 1978. It was horrifying. I’d never seen a dead person before. I’d never seen close up what bullets do. I was maybe the third person to walk in. Dianne Feinstein was there. I just kept thinking, “Well, it’s all over now.” He was our leader. And also for me personally. Harvey had become, for me, very much a father figure. And I just kept thinking, everything’s over. I mean, how can we move forward without him? And it was a real personal loss.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that night was so extraordinary. As word spread, people began to gather, gay and straight, young and old, Black and brown and white, immigrant and native-born, and it was just thousands and then tens of thousands and tens of thousands more. And that enormous silent candlelight procession filled Market Street from Castro to City Hall. It was just the most extraordinary thing. And I think I realized that night that I was wrong. It wasn’t over. It was just beginning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11950274\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11950274\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578.jpg\" alt=\"A white man in a suit and tie leans back in his chair behind a desk in his office and smiles at the camera.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"687\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578.jpg 1024w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578-800x537.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578-1020x684.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk, Dec. 4, 1977. \u003ccite>(Bettmann/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We often just hear about these highlights with major figures, the tragic ones. But I want to know about moments of joy. Like maybe a time when Milk made people laugh or some other act of kindness.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harvey was very funny. He loved being a clown. He would dress up as a clown. He really had an amazing ability to connect with kids and make them laugh. He also had a real big place in his heart for senior citizens. At his campaign office, his camera store and his City Hall office, I was always struck by how many kids and seniors were there. He was very empathetic and he had all these funny little rituals. Like one of the rituals was that every year on his birthday, he would receive a pie in the face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was very good at self-deprecating humor, and this was part of a strategy, because at that point in time most heterosexual people had yet to encounter an out-loud-and-proud gay politician. So there was fear, there was anxiety, there were all sorts of preconceptions. And Harvey would disarm people with humor that would then open the door for more serious conversations to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You have dedicated your career to fighting for LGBTQ rights. In what way did being close to Milk help you reach this point where you realized that this was the work that you wanted to do? \u003c/strong>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Cleve Jones, author and activist\"]‘I have no doubt that if Harvey were here with us today, he would be warning people that there is peril ahead, that we are in dangerous times.’[/pullquote]You know, I was always interested in politics. I was always interested in the movement. I’m a product of the Vietnam War era and the Civil Rights Movement and the feminist movement. I graduated from high school in 1972, just as the war in Vietnam was winding down. Certainly Nov. 27, finding Harvey’s body, kind of set my course permanently. But I’m not just an LGBTQ activist. In fact, for the last 17 years or so, I’ve worked with Unite Here, the hospitality workers union in the Bay Area. We’re Local 2, and we’re a fighting union of people, immigrants, native-born, people of all colors, faiths, backgrounds, genders and orientations. We take on some of the biggest corporations in the world, and we fight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We win contracts that provide workers with better pay, safer working conditions, access to health care and more respect on the job. And so my work for the last almost two decades now focused on labor as well as LGBTQ. It really goes directly back to Harvey Milk and the Teamsters and a Teamster organizer named Allan Baird, who gave Harvey a bullhorn and built that coalition to get Coors beer out of all the gay bars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How do you see Milk’s legacy today, particularly in San Francisco and the Bay Area?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think about Harvey almost every day, and I wonder what he could have accomplished had he not been killed. I wonder if he would have survived the AIDS pandemic, which took so many of us. I think he might possibly have become mayor. I think he might have ended up in Congress. Maybe he would have ended up being just another disappointing politician who made big promises. But being cut down as he was, he gave a people and a community a shared martyr. Now, there are a lot of martyrs in the LGBTQ community. A lot of people have been taken by violence or by suicide or have lost their way to drugs and alcohol, with which we suffer a lot of tragedies. But Harvey’s death brought us together in a powerful way that continues to reverberate through the generations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And at the core of his message is the importance of coming out and being true to yourself. Being honest and open about who we are, and also about understanding that none of us goes through our lives alone, that all of our lives and our communities are intertwined and interconnected, and that what we do matters. The decisions that we make have consequences, and we need to support each other and do our best to build a world that is free from war in which we can live with justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11950269\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11950269\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563-800x589.jpg\" alt=\"Black and white photo in which a white man screams with joy and pumps his fist in the air with his right hand while holding a sign that says "I'm from Woodmere NY" with the other, seated on the back of a convertible with a parade of people holding signs and flags behind him on a city street lined with people and buildings.\" width=\"800\" height=\"589\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563-800x589.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563-1020x751.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Harvey Milk at the Gay Pride Parade, San Francisco, June 23, 1978. \u003ccite>(Terry Schmitt/San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>This is a pretty fraught time for LGBTQ rights around the U.S. We’re seeing state legislatures introducing bills that ban books focused on queerness and others targeting drag performances. How do you think Harvey Milk would have tried to address this moment? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Well, I don’t need to speculate at all. I know exactly what he would do. He would be organizing people and he would be encouraging people to take responsibility for fighting these fights. You know, when Harvey was coming of age back in New York and as he was becoming aware of his sexual orientation and figuring out who he was going to be, the Holocaust was unfolding in Europe. As a Jewish gay person, Harvey was extremely aware of what could happen, and he spoke of it often.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And there’s this very famous quote from Dr. King about how the moral arc of the universe bends toward justice. And I believe that that is true. But when we step back and look at that arc, we see that there are a lot of twists and turns. And I have no doubt that if Harvey were here with us today, he would be warning people that there is peril ahead, that we are in dangerous times, that not only are the advances made by LGBTQ people threatened, but our very democracy is threatened. And if he were here today, I know he would be speaking out against that every single day with every breath he could find.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Cleve Jones is an LGBTQ+ activist, author and friend of Harvey Milk. He talked to KQED's Brian Watt about Milk as a person, a politician and an icon whose legacy remains more pertinent than ever in a time of increased attacks against LGBTQ+ rights across the US.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1685134319,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":28,"wordCount":1951},"headData":{"title":"Still Under Threat: On Harvey Milk Day, Leading Activist Says LGBTQ+ Leaders Face Dangers Decades After Assassination | KQED","description":"Cleve Jones is an LGBTQ+ activist, author and friend of Harvey Milk. He talked to KQED's Brian Watt about Milk as a person, a politician and an icon whose legacy remains more pertinent than ever in a time of increased attacks against LGBTQ+ rights across the US.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Still Under Threat: On Harvey Milk Day, Leading Activist Says LGBTQ+ Leaders Face Dangers Decades After Assassination","datePublished":"2023-05-22T21:29:48.000Z","dateModified":"2023-05-26T20:51:59.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-4[…]f-aaef00f5a073/f600cab3-a117-43f8-9477-b00a015f8bc0/audio.mp3","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11950268/still-under-threat-on-harvey-milk-day-leading-activist-says-lgbtq-leaders-face-dangers-decades-after-assassination","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Beginning in 1977, for nearly a year, Harvey Milk served on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors — the first openly gay man to be elected to public office in California. He authored a bill banning discrimination in public places, housing and employment based on sexual orientation. He also promoted free public transportation, cheaper child care facilities and public oversight of the police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In November of 1978, Milk and San Francisco Mayor George Moscone were assassinated. The city mourned the loss of two of its most outspoken political leaders. Over the years, Harvey Milk became a martyr for causes of equality and social justice, and in 2009, the state of California designated May 22, Milk’s birthday, as Harvey Milk Day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a time when LGBTQ+ rights are under attack nationwide, with a string of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation introduced in dozens of state legislatures, the significance of Harvey Milk as a politician and activist resonates more than ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cleve Jones, author and longtime activist, talked to KQED’s Brian Watt about Milk as a person, a politician and an icon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Brian Watt: Can you take us back to when you met Harvey Milk? What was that like?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cleve Jones:\u003c/strong> Well, Harvey was quite a character. When I first met him, he was still emerging from his hippie phase, and he struck me as being entirely too old to be wearing a ponytail. But he and his partner, Scott Smith, had opened a little camera store on Castro Street, and I met him on Castro Street as he was registering voters. And that was our first conversation. I was struck by his warmth, though, and he ran for office a few times before he was elected.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And with each campaign, I could see that he became more serious, more grounded in the issues and more thoughtful in his approach, which was never a single-issue thing. He cared, of course, about gay rights, the community we now call LGBTQ+. But he cared about unions, he cared about seniors, he cared about kids. He was a very astute coalition builder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What are some of the things he taught you about coalition building and government and advocacy?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11933264,arts_13845645,arts_13814550","label":"Related Posts "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>I got to work with Harvey on the Coors beer boycott, which was one of the first, if not the very first, real alliance between the LGBTQ movement and the labor movement, specifically the Teamsters, who were on strike at the brewery in Golden, Colorado.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harvey saw an opportunity to get jobs for gay people, to support the union and to build a relationship that ended up being incredibly valuable, because just a couple of years later, we in California faced the Briggs Initiative, which was Proposition 6 of the 1978 November ballot. Prop. 6 would have essentially made it illegal for LGBT people and their supporters to work in any capacity in the public school system. And so those initial alliances with labor through the Teamsters then grew to a powerful alliance with the teachers union, the service workers union, and all the unions who saw that not just as an attack on gay people, but as an attack on workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11950270\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11950270\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899-800x578.jpg\" alt=\"A bespectacled white man with white hair and a green sweater smiles at the camera with arms crossed and a blurry city street behind him.\" width=\"800\" height=\"578\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899-800x578.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899-1020x737.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899-160x116.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1408991899.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cleve Jones, in the Castro District in San Francisco, on Feb. 16, 2017. \u003ccite>(Carlos Avila Gonzalez/The San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Milk also taught me a lot. He took me with him to City Hall when he got elected and I was a student intern in his office until he was shot. So I got to work on the inside and saw the nuts and bolts of creating legislation, the hearings, the committee work, all of that. But I will say one kind of overarching lesson I learned from him that has really stuck with me is the importance of communicating with plain language, and always trying to find common ground. He was really a genius at that. He could meet anybody, a worker in a union hall, a society lady on Nob Hill, cute street kids. He could talk to anybody, find the common ground, and create a deeper conversation about shared values and shared aspirations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You have been open about this before: You found Milk on the night that he was gunned down. What was going through your mind then? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was Nov. 27, 1978. It was horrifying. I’d never seen a dead person before. I’d never seen close up what bullets do. I was maybe the third person to walk in. Dianne Feinstein was there. I just kept thinking, “Well, it’s all over now.” He was our leader. And also for me personally. Harvey had become, for me, very much a father figure. And I just kept thinking, everything’s over. I mean, how can we move forward without him? And it was a real personal loss.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that night was so extraordinary. As word spread, people began to gather, gay and straight, young and old, Black and brown and white, immigrant and native-born, and it was just thousands and then tens of thousands and tens of thousands more. And that enormous silent candlelight procession filled Market Street from Castro to City Hall. It was just the most extraordinary thing. And I think I realized that night that I was wrong. It wasn’t over. It was just beginning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11950274\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11950274\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578.jpg\" alt=\"A white man in a suit and tie leans back in his chair behind a desk in his office and smiles at the camera.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"687\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578.jpg 1024w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578-800x537.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578-1020x684.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2030/05/GettyImages-517285578-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk, Dec. 4, 1977. \u003ccite>(Bettmann/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We often just hear about these highlights with major figures, the tragic ones. But I want to know about moments of joy. Like maybe a time when Milk made people laugh or some other act of kindness.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harvey was very funny. He loved being a clown. He would dress up as a clown. He really had an amazing ability to connect with kids and make them laugh. He also had a real big place in his heart for senior citizens. At his campaign office, his camera store and his City Hall office, I was always struck by how many kids and seniors were there. He was very empathetic and he had all these funny little rituals. Like one of the rituals was that every year on his birthday, he would receive a pie in the face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was very good at self-deprecating humor, and this was part of a strategy, because at that point in time most heterosexual people had yet to encounter an out-loud-and-proud gay politician. So there was fear, there was anxiety, there were all sorts of preconceptions. And Harvey would disarm people with humor that would then open the door for more serious conversations to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You have dedicated your career to fighting for LGBTQ rights. In what way did being close to Milk help you reach this point where you realized that this was the work that you wanted to do? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘I have no doubt that if Harvey were here with us today, he would be warning people that there is peril ahead, that we are in dangerous times.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Cleve Jones, author and activist","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>You know, I was always interested in politics. I was always interested in the movement. I’m a product of the Vietnam War era and the Civil Rights Movement and the feminist movement. I graduated from high school in 1972, just as the war in Vietnam was winding down. Certainly Nov. 27, finding Harvey’s body, kind of set my course permanently. But I’m not just an LGBTQ activist. In fact, for the last 17 years or so, I’ve worked with Unite Here, the hospitality workers union in the Bay Area. We’re Local 2, and we’re a fighting union of people, immigrants, native-born, people of all colors, faiths, backgrounds, genders and orientations. We take on some of the biggest corporations in the world, and we fight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We win contracts that provide workers with better pay, safer working conditions, access to health care and more respect on the job. And so my work for the last almost two decades now focused on labor as well as LGBTQ. It really goes directly back to Harvey Milk and the Teamsters and a Teamster organizer named Allan Baird, who gave Harvey a bullhorn and built that coalition to get Coors beer out of all the gay bars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How do you see Milk’s legacy today, particularly in San Francisco and the Bay Area?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think about Harvey almost every day, and I wonder what he could have accomplished had he not been killed. I wonder if he would have survived the AIDS pandemic, which took so many of us. I think he might possibly have become mayor. I think he might have ended up in Congress. Maybe he would have ended up being just another disappointing politician who made big promises. But being cut down as he was, he gave a people and a community a shared martyr. Now, there are a lot of martyrs in the LGBTQ community. A lot of people have been taken by violence or by suicide or have lost their way to drugs and alcohol, with which we suffer a lot of tragedies. But Harvey’s death brought us together in a powerful way that continues to reverberate through the generations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And at the core of his message is the importance of coming out and being true to yourself. Being honest and open about who we are, and also about understanding that none of us goes through our lives alone, that all of our lives and our communities are intertwined and interconnected, and that what we do matters. The decisions that we make have consequences, and we need to support each other and do our best to build a world that is free from war in which we can live with justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11950269\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11950269\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563-800x589.jpg\" alt=\"Black and white photo in which a white man screams with joy and pumps his fist in the air with his right hand while holding a sign that says "I'm from Woodmere NY" with the other, seated on the back of a convertible with a parade of people holding signs and flags behind him on a city street lined with people and buildings.\" width=\"800\" height=\"589\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563-800x589.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563-1020x751.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/05/GettyImages-1298867563.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Harvey Milk at the Gay Pride Parade, San Francisco, June 23, 1978. \u003ccite>(Terry Schmitt/San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>This is a pretty fraught time for LGBTQ rights around the U.S. We’re seeing state legislatures introducing bills that ban books focused on queerness and others targeting drag performances. How do you think Harvey Milk would have tried to address this moment? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Well, I don’t need to speculate at all. I know exactly what he would do. He would be organizing people and he would be encouraging people to take responsibility for fighting these fights. You know, when Harvey was coming of age back in New York and as he was becoming aware of his sexual orientation and figuring out who he was going to be, the Holocaust was unfolding in Europe. As a Jewish gay person, Harvey was extremely aware of what could happen, and he spoke of it often.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And there’s this very famous quote from Dr. King about how the moral arc of the universe bends toward justice. And I believe that that is true. But when we step back and look at that arc, we see that there are a lot of twists and turns. And I have no doubt that if Harvey were here with us today, he would be warning people that there is peril ahead, that we are in dangerous times, that not only are the advances made by LGBTQ people threatened, but our very democracy is threatened. And if he were here today, I know he would be speaking out against that every single day with every breath he could find.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11950268/still-under-threat-on-harvey-milk-day-leading-activist-says-lgbtq-leaders-face-dangers-decades-after-assassination","authors":["236"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_21534","news_370","news_1682","news_20004","news_20003","news_19345","news_38"],"featImg":"news_11950275","label":"news"},"news_11946030":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11946030","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11946030","score":null,"sort":[1681006210000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"were-gonna-fight-back-drag-artists-activists-rally-in-sf-against-anti-lgbtq-bills-nationwide","title":"'We're Gonna Fight Back': Drag Artists, Activists Rally in SF Against Anti-LGBTQ+ Bills Nationwide","publishDate":1681006210,"format":"standard","headTitle":"‘We’re Gonna Fight Back’: Drag Artists, Activists Rally in SF Against Anti-LGBTQ+ Bills Nationwide | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Drag performers and activists gathered at the “Drag Up! Fight Back!” rally in San Francisco on Saturday to protest recent anti-drag and anti-trans legislation as well as increased attacks against LGBTQ+ rights across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We wanted to show the whole world that San Francisco isn’t standing still, that Oakland isn’t standing still, that the Bay Area is not standing still, period,” said LGBTQ+ rights activist and drag king Alex U. Inn. “They come after everything I am. They come after my Black books, they come after my nonbinary books, they come after me being a woman in my womb, they come after me being transidentified. And what does that leave me? So f— them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946131\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946131\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Four people on stage, all dressed in drag, waving and clapping to the crowd.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">From left, Alex U. Inn, Juanita MORE!, Sister Roma and Honey Mahogany speak at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ rally at Union Square in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Activist, politician, drag performer and singer Honey Mahogany, who was one of the organizers of the rally, hailed the LGBTQ+ community’s long history of struggle and defiance that goes back to the 1966 Compton’s Cafeteria riot in San Francisco, where drag queens and trans women, fed up with police harassment, fought back when an officer grabbed a trans woman’s arm. That rebellion, along with the Stonewall riots in New York three years later, set the stage for the modern-day LGBTQ+ rights movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq1JHAKPpuh/?hl=en\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have fought so hard for equal rights for the LGBTQ community, and we’ve made a lot of progress, but right now, we’re really facing an unprecedented level of attacks,” said Mahogany. “We have a duty to stand up for those who cannot do that for themselves, who may be less safe in doing that, across the country. We have a lot of great organizations like Southern Equality, the NCLR, the ACLU and many others who are litigating these laws when they are passed, making sure that they are not implemented. It’s really important that we join them in this fight because today it’s them, but tomorrow it could be right here in California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946118\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946118\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A crowd of LGBTQ+ rights supporters young and old march waving rainbow flags and holding signs. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters march to Union Square at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ march in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>State Sen. Scott Wiener referred to the “vicious attacks” on trans people, drag queens and the LGBTQ+ community in states across the country as “unacceptable” and “un-American” and said he considered it a form of “gender policing,” which, he added, has a long history in the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946126\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946126\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A white man speaks into a microphone.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">State Sen. Scott Wiener speaks at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ rally at Union Square in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This is straight-up homophobia and transphobia,” said Wiener, in an interview with KQED prior to the rally. “They dress it up as other things and pretend it’s about the safety of children. These laws are often [drafted] in ways that go towards adults as well. They’re now trying to ban gender-affirming care for anyone under the age of 26, not just children. So this is a broader attack against all LGBTQ people. They want to take us back to the 1950s — or maybe the 1850s. It’s terrifying and we’re gonna fight it hard.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946119\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946119\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Protesters march, some in drag, with rainbow colored flags and signs.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters march to Union Square at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ march in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The “Drag Up! Fight Back!” rally and march was organized by a coalition of drag activists that included Mahogany, Inn, drag icon \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13919897/san-francisco-arts-commission-juanita-more-30-years\">Juanita MORE!\u003c/a>, Oasis nightclub owner D’Arcy Drollinger and Sister Roma of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. The protest kicked off at San Francisco City Hall before heading to Union Square, where there were performances. It came just days after the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13927233/heklina-dies-drag-legend-san-francsico\">untimely death\u003c/a> of San Francisco drag icon Heklina.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re going to pay a tribute to Heklina when we get to Union Square,” said MORE! at the start of the rally. “I’ve known Heklina since ’94 or ’95. We’ve done a lot of things together that were so much fun and so crazy, and I was part of T-Shack the whole time that she ran it. I loved her very much.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946115\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946115\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A person in a suit and with a beard smiles at the camera surrounded by fellow ralliers. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Chua (center) chats with friends at San Francisco City Hall on Saturday, April 8, 2023. Chua is the elected reigning emperor of the Imperial Council of San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>According to the ACLU, statehouses nationwide have seen a record \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights\">452 anti-LGBTQ+ bills\u003c/a> this year alone, many of them targeting drag performances, trans people’s access to medical care and other rights. A greater threat, LGBTQ+ rights supporters point out, is the prospect that backers of these bills in state legislatures are intent on taking their efforts to the federal level. News of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946073/texas-judge-halts-fda-approval-of-abortion-pill-mifepristone-newsom-slams-ruling\">a Texas federal judge ordering a hold on federal approval of a widely used and effective abortion pill\u003c/a> on Friday added to the sense of urgency Saturday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’ve already introduced bills in Congress to attack LGBTQ people to replicate what they’re doing in red states,” said Wiener. “Those bills currently are not gonna go anywhere, because we control the Senate and the White House. But if the Republicans take over both the Congress and the presidency in the future, they will absolutely pass these laws into effect nationally. And so they are coming at us here in California. We’re already seeing this with abortion, that they’re trying to effectively ban abortion pills nationwide. They will do the same with respect to LGBTQ people. This is our fight, and it’s our fight everywhere.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946116\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946116\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Protesters hold signs as they march.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mickey Skinner (center) holds a sign reading, ‘If it weren’t for the drag queens who raised me, I would be dead,’ at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ march in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We have different states who are bringing legislation because they feel threatened against people who are in drag or people who are trans,” said rally attendee and transgender rights supporter Stanley Wong. “There needs to be more visibility and more activism to educate people that we are in this community and not a threat. Guns are more of a threat to us than people wearing attire.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946133\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946133\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"An Asian man smiles at the camera wearing a yellow fluorescent vest and a bus in the background.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stanley Wong at San Francisco City Hall on Saturday, April 8, 2023. ‘Drag queens are not the people you should be worried about. In fact, they’re probably the people who are going to stand up,’ said Wong. ‘Look at what happened in Stonewall or before that at Compton’s Cafeteria here in San Francisco. There’s been a history of the drag community being very vocal and not taking it. So the march today also symbolizes that, that we aren’t going to just stand by and take it and be threatened by any of this.’ \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I just think that I need to be out here to support my drag sisters and my transgender brothers and sisters, and I just see what’s going on in so many states, and there’s even an anti-trans bill here in California that was introduced,” said rally attendee Brian Harradine. “People aren’t realizing how serious the attacks are. I’m hoping that this march and me participating in this march will encourage more people to wake up and take action.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946112\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946112\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A white man holds a sign that reads 'Drag is not a crime.'\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rally attendee Brian Harradine holds a ‘Drag is not a crime’ sign at San Francisco City Hall on Saturday, April 8, 2023. ‘When I’m feeling really down, I know I can go to a drag performance and feel better,’ said Harradine. ‘When I feel the world is against me. I can go to a drag performance and just feel that I’m safe. I’m welcome.’ \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I think all of the movements are connected and the true fight is always intersectional,” said rally attendee Rose Tinani. “When you’re fighting for human rights, you’re fighting for all human rights. You are fighting for Black people, you are fighting for people of color, you’re fighting against anti-trans and anti-queer rights. You’re fighting for all of them, for our right to live as we deem appropriate, not as some white cis men deem appropriate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946110\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946110\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"An Asian woman with a face mask, a south Asian woman and an Asian man smiles for the camera with people behind them.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">From left, Celine Nghiem, Rose Tinani and Tahoe Roe gather for the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ march at San Francisco City Hall on Saturday, April 8, 2023. ‘I’m here because we need queer people and queer allies to be showing up and fighting and knowing that this is a fight that will be fought at the ballot box, but it’s not going to end at the ballot box,’ said Tahoe Roe. ‘And so we all need to be here and ready to fight.’ \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“What’s bringing me to this rally today? I think it’s ridiculous that people who have positions of power are utilizing it to diminish the humanity of the queer community as a whole,” said Shane Zaldivar, who identifies as both a drag queen and a trans woman. There are people out there just trying to make other people’s lives harder when it’s hard enough … It feels like lives are at stake.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946145\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946145\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A trans person on stage performs in drag with rainbow wings.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023..jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shane Zaldivar performs as the Pop Up Drag Queen at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ rally at Union Square in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. ‘I’ve been performing publicly on the streets of San Francisco for maybe seven years now,’ said Zaldivar. ‘I like to just show joy. I like to engage with people … to show that drag and gender expression is not something that needs to be feared. It can be beautiful, it can be joyful, it can be silly.’ \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“[This] march is to show the country and the world that the LGBTQ community is not taking this lying down and that drag queens will not be silenced and we will not go back into the closet,” said Mahogany in a previous interview with KQED. “We will not be relegated to just the back of a dark room in a club. We are here as a part of the community, we’re here to stay, and we’re gonna fight back.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946129\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946129\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A Black trans woman with a black top hat and black dress speaks into a microphone.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Honey Mahogany speaks at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ rally at Union Square in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story includes reporting by Attila Pelit, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/nvoynovskaya\">Nastia Voynovskaya\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/afinney\">Annelise Finney\u003c/a> of KQED with photos by Estefany Gonzalez.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The 'Drag Up! 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Fight Back!” rally in San Francisco on Saturday to protest recent anti-drag and anti-trans legislation as well as increased attacks against LGBTQ+ rights across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We wanted to show the whole world that San Francisco isn’t standing still, that Oakland isn’t standing still, that the Bay Area is not standing still, period,” said LGBTQ+ rights activist and drag king Alex U. Inn. “They come after everything I am. They come after my Black books, they come after my nonbinary books, they come after me being a woman in my womb, they come after me being transidentified. And what does that leave me? So f— them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946131\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946131\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Four people on stage, all dressed in drag, waving and clapping to the crowd.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7432.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">From left, Alex U. Inn, Juanita MORE!, Sister Roma and Honey Mahogany speak at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ rally at Union Square in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Activist, politician, drag performer and singer Honey Mahogany, who was one of the organizers of the rally, hailed the LGBTQ+ community’s long history of struggle and defiance that goes back to the 1966 Compton’s Cafeteria riot in San Francisco, where drag queens and trans women, fed up with police harassment, fought back when an officer grabbed a trans woman’s arm. That rebellion, along with the Stonewall riots in New York three years later, set the stage for the modern-day LGBTQ+ rights movement.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramId":"Cq1JHAKPpuh"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>“We have fought so hard for equal rights for the LGBTQ community, and we’ve made a lot of progress, but right now, we’re really facing an unprecedented level of attacks,” said Mahogany. “We have a duty to stand up for those who cannot do that for themselves, who may be less safe in doing that, across the country. We have a lot of great organizations like Southern Equality, the NCLR, the ACLU and many others who are litigating these laws when they are passed, making sure that they are not implemented. It’s really important that we join them in this fight because today it’s them, but tomorrow it could be right here in California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946118\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946118\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A crowd of LGBTQ+ rights supporters young and old march waving rainbow flags and holding signs. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-2.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters march to Union Square at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ march in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>State Sen. Scott Wiener referred to the “vicious attacks” on trans people, drag queens and the LGBTQ+ community in states across the country as “unacceptable” and “un-American” and said he considered it a form of “gender policing,” which, he added, has a long history in the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946126\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946126\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A white man speaks into a microphone.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7487.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">State Sen. Scott Wiener speaks at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ rally at Union Square in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This is straight-up homophobia and transphobia,” said Wiener, in an interview with KQED prior to the rally. “They dress it up as other things and pretend it’s about the safety of children. These laws are often [drafted] in ways that go towards adults as well. They’re now trying to ban gender-affirming care for anyone under the age of 26, not just children. So this is a broader attack against all LGBTQ people. They want to take us back to the 1950s — or maybe the 1850s. It’s terrifying and we’re gonna fight it hard.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946119\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946119\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Protesters march, some in drag, with rainbow colored flags and signs.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Protesters-march-to-Union-Square-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023-3.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters march to Union Square at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ march in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The “Drag Up! Fight Back!” rally and march was organized by a coalition of drag activists that included Mahogany, Inn, drag icon \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13919897/san-francisco-arts-commission-juanita-more-30-years\">Juanita MORE!\u003c/a>, Oasis nightclub owner D’Arcy Drollinger and Sister Roma of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. The protest kicked off at San Francisco City Hall before heading to Union Square, where there were performances. It came just days after the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13927233/heklina-dies-drag-legend-san-francsico\">untimely death\u003c/a> of San Francisco drag icon Heklina.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re going to pay a tribute to Heklina when we get to Union Square,” said MORE! at the start of the rally. “I’ve known Heklina since ’94 or ’95. We’ve done a lot of things together that were so much fun and so crazy, and I was part of T-Shack the whole time that she ran it. I loved her very much.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946115\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946115\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A person in a suit and with a beard smiles at the camera surrounded by fellow ralliers. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Michael-Chua-center-chats-with-friends-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-Chua-is-the-elected-reigning-emperor-of-the-Imperial-Council-of-San-Francisco.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Chua (center) chats with friends at San Francisco City Hall on Saturday, April 8, 2023. Chua is the elected reigning emperor of the Imperial Council of San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>According to the ACLU, statehouses nationwide have seen a record \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights\">452 anti-LGBTQ+ bills\u003c/a> this year alone, many of them targeting drag performances, trans people’s access to medical care and other rights. A greater threat, LGBTQ+ rights supporters point out, is the prospect that backers of these bills in state legislatures are intent on taking their efforts to the federal level. News of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946073/texas-judge-halts-fda-approval-of-abortion-pill-mifepristone-newsom-slams-ruling\">a Texas federal judge ordering a hold on federal approval of a widely used and effective abortion pill\u003c/a> on Friday added to the sense of urgency Saturday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’ve already introduced bills in Congress to attack LGBTQ people to replicate what they’re doing in red states,” said Wiener. “Those bills currently are not gonna go anywhere, because we control the Senate and the White House. But if the Republicans take over both the Congress and the presidency in the future, they will absolutely pass these laws into effect nationally. And so they are coming at us here in California. We’re already seeing this with abortion, that they’re trying to effectively ban abortion pills nationwide. They will do the same with respect to LGBTQ people. This is our fight, and it’s our fight everywhere.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946116\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946116\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Protesters hold signs as they march.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Mickey-Skinner-center-holds-a-sign-reading-22If-it-werent-for-the-drag-queen-who-raised-me-I-would-be-dead22-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023._.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mickey Skinner (center) holds a sign reading, ‘If it weren’t for the drag queens who raised me, I would be dead,’ at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ march in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We have different states who are bringing legislation because they feel threatened against people who are in drag or people who are trans,” said rally attendee and transgender rights supporter Stanley Wong. “There needs to be more visibility and more activism to educate people that we are in this community and not a threat. Guns are more of a threat to us than people wearing attire.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946133\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946133\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"An Asian man smiles at the camera wearing a yellow fluorescent vest and a bus in the background.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A6840.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stanley Wong at San Francisco City Hall on Saturday, April 8, 2023. ‘Drag queens are not the people you should be worried about. In fact, they’re probably the people who are going to stand up,’ said Wong. ‘Look at what happened in Stonewall or before that at Compton’s Cafeteria here in San Francisco. There’s been a history of the drag community being very vocal and not taking it. So the march today also symbolizes that, that we aren’t going to just stand by and take it and be threatened by any of this.’ \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I just think that I need to be out here to support my drag sisters and my transgender brothers and sisters, and I just see what’s going on in so many states, and there’s even an anti-trans bill here in California that was introduced,” said rally attendee Brian Harradine. “People aren’t realizing how serious the attacks are. I’m hoping that this march and me participating in this march will encourage more people to wake up and take action.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946112\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946112\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A white man holds a sign that reads 'Drag is not a crime.'\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Brian-Harradine-holds-a-22Drag-is-not-a-crime22-sign-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023_.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rally attendee Brian Harradine holds a ‘Drag is not a crime’ sign at San Francisco City Hall on Saturday, April 8, 2023. ‘When I’m feeling really down, I know I can go to a drag performance and feel better,’ said Harradine. ‘When I feel the world is against me. I can go to a drag performance and just feel that I’m safe. I’m welcome.’ \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I think all of the movements are connected and the true fight is always intersectional,” said rally attendee Rose Tinani. “When you’re fighting for human rights, you’re fighting for all human rights. You are fighting for Black people, you are fighting for people of color, you’re fighting against anti-trans and anti-queer rights. You’re fighting for all of them, for our right to live as we deem appropriate, not as some white cis men deem appropriate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946110\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946110\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"An Asian woman with a face mask, a south Asian woman and an Asian man smiles for the camera with people behind them.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/From-left-Celine-Nghiem-Rose-Tinani-and-Tahoe-Roe-gather-for-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-march-at-San-Francisco-City-Hall-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-_.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">From left, Celine Nghiem, Rose Tinani and Tahoe Roe gather for the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ march at San Francisco City Hall on Saturday, April 8, 2023. ‘I’m here because we need queer people and queer allies to be showing up and fighting and knowing that this is a fight that will be fought at the ballot box, but it’s not going to end at the ballot box,’ said Tahoe Roe. ‘And so we all need to be here and ready to fight.’ \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“What’s bringing me to this rally today? I think it’s ridiculous that people who have positions of power are utilizing it to diminish the humanity of the queer community as a whole,” said Shane Zaldivar, who identifies as both a drag queen and a trans woman. There are people out there just trying to make other people’s lives harder when it’s hard enough … It feels like lives are at stake.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946145\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946145\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A trans person on stage performs in drag with rainbow wings.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023.-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/Shane-Zaldivar-performs-as-the-Pop-Up-Drag-Queen-at-the-Drag-Up-Fight-Back-rally-at-Union-Square-in-San-Francisco-on-Saturday-April-8-2023..jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shane Zaldivar performs as the Pop Up Drag Queen at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ rally at Union Square in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. ‘I’ve been performing publicly on the streets of San Francisco for maybe seven years now,’ said Zaldivar. ‘I like to just show joy. I like to engage with people … to show that drag and gender expression is not something that needs to be feared. It can be beautiful, it can be joyful, it can be silly.’ \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“[This] march is to show the country and the world that the LGBTQ community is not taking this lying down and that drag queens will not be silenced and we will not go back into the closet,” said Mahogany in a previous interview with KQED. “We will not be relegated to just the back of a dark room in a club. We are here as a part of the community, we’re here to stay, and we’re gonna fight back.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11946129\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11946129\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A Black trans woman with a black top hat and black dress speaks into a microphone.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/D7A7310.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Honey Mahogany speaks at the ‘Drag Up! Fight Back!’ rally at Union Square in San Francisco on Saturday, April 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story includes reporting by Attila Pelit, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/nvoynovskaya\">Nastia Voynovskaya\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/afinney\">Annelise Finney\u003c/a> of KQED with photos by Estefany Gonzalez.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11946030/were-gonna-fight-back-drag-artists-activists-rally-in-sf-against-anti-lgbtq-bills-nationwide","authors":["236"],"categories":["news_29992","news_223","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_32619","news_30811","news_32616","news_31221","news_27626","news_32617","news_28420","news_20004","news_20003","news_38","news_1217","news_31900"],"featImg":"news_11946132","label":"news"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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