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But now that the union is there, she says, workers have more power and protection to speak out in public.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Organizing Challenges\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The story of what happened at Kickstarter shows how difficult it is to organize workers at a company that primarily relies on programming and the internet to do business, and the unique challenges involved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine says she hopes her oral history project encourages other tech workers to unionize and provides a roadmap for them to avoid the pitfalls that stymied her team. The interviews and recordings she has gathered provide a unique inside look at a modern tech company from the perspective of those who are usually unable or unwilling to tell their stories publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Clarissa’s Path\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In 2015, Redwine got her dream job at Kickstarter, managing fundraising projects in the tech and design category. “I was ecstatic,” she said. “When I got the email that I would be joining Kickstarter, I flipped out. 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And she was content with the job for her first three years there — up until the \"Always Punch Nazis\" incident.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Power Struggle\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\"Always Punch Nazis\" is a comic book. In 2018, its writers were trying to raise money on Kickstarter, and they posted a video with dramatic music and images of cartoon characters punching Nazis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the last year or so, there had been growing unrest at the company. The former CEO, Perry Chen, had returned after a four-year hiatus, and not all employees were happy about it. \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/daveyalba/kickstarter-perry-chen-founder-worship-turmoil\">In interviews with Buzzfeed\u003c/a>, some employees accused Chen of being domineering and making unilateral decisions, and about 50 of them either left or were fired shortly after his return.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it was the \"Always Punch Nazis\" situation that brought tensions at the company to a boiling point and that would eventually catalyze the union organizing effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the fundraising page for the comic appeared on Kickstarter in August 2018, bloggers for the right-wing website Breitbart began complaining that the comic promoted violence and violated the company's guidelines. In response, Kickstarter management said they’d take the project down. But many employees advocated for it to remain up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine has a recording of an emergency meeting at the height of the controversy. One employee stood up and said, “I just want to put on the record that not all of us are happy about this. This is super not chill and there is no other way to describe the feeling of being told in a room why we should be okay with this decision.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Employees eventually pressured the company to keep the project on the site. But, according to Redwine, managers started retaliating against some of the employees involved, reprimanding them for publicly speaking out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The whole episode got Redwine and others thinking about how little power they actually had at the company; when it came to making big decisions, employees wouldn’t actually have much say unless they banded together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Having power and having a voice in the workplace are different things,” Redwine said. “A lot of us feel like we have a voice and can speak up, but does that actually change anything? Through this experience, I learned no, no it doesn't. It doesn’t change anything unless you link arms with your fellow co-workers, and use your collective power to challenge management.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Banding Together\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Redwine and others started meeting at a co-worker's apartment — a tiny studio just around the corner from Kickstarter’s offices. They’d cram in and talk about what was bugging them at the company. In addition to the recent incidents, some of them also voiced concern about recent hiring and firing decisions, and the dearth of women and people of color in senior management. The issues varied, but it all boiled down to a general lack of control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"tech-industry\"]Although Kickstarter was then a company of less than 100 people, the issues raised by its employees were concerns shared by many workers at larger tech companies. For instance, during the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714714/time-is-up-employee-unrest-grows-at-silicon-valley-companies\">Google Walkout in 2018 \u003c/a>a worker took the stage and said, “We demand structural change. We demand transparency, accountability and equity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google employees have since spoken out against the company’s contracts with the U.S. military, its two-tier class system that separates employees and contractor and sexual harassment issues. But unlike Kickstarter, Google workers have never come close to forming a union.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Getting the Ball Rolling\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>At the meetings in the cramped studio, the group of Kickstarter employees decided they should affiliate with the Office and Professional Employees International Union. Redwine said OPEIU seemed the most committed to helping them unionize and using the effort as a template for organizing workers at other tech firms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine and her co-workers presumed Kickstarter management would embrace the union or at least not actively fight against it. Many of them believed the company truly did strive to have a less hierarchical management structure, as they had consistently claimed. But OPEIU advisors warned them not to be so trusting, and Redwine says they were right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Redwine describes it, management got wind of the organizing effort and started to push back. In meetings, she says, managers spoke about how Kickstarter didn’t need a union, and sent around emails to staff trying to dissuade organizing efforts. Management then outed the unionizing effort, announcing it to the whole company before organizers had contacted everyone individually, she says. And that’s when the group realized management was going to aggressively fight the effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, it’s like, ‘Fool me once, fool me twice…’ I think we got to like fool me 10 times,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kickstarter denies that it was opposed to the organizing effort. In a statement for this story, a Kickstarter spokesperson said, “We fully support and respect our staff’s decision to unionize earlier this year, and we’re proud of the fair and democratic process that got us to where we are today.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11841340\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1290px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2.png\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11841340\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1290\" height=\"860\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2.png 1290w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2-800x533.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2-1020x680.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2-160x107.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1290px) 100vw, 1290px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Clarissa Redwine giving a talk at Kickstarter headquarters. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Clarissa Redwine)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Redwine says to pull off the union, they had to convince the software engineers to join. Much like in other tech firms, engineers — who keep the tech running — have far more power than employees in sales or marketing, and typically receive better pay and perks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group worked hard to get engineers on board, Redwine says, and after a concerted outreach effort, managed to convince many of them to join the cause. In the end, employees voted 46-to-37 in favor of unionizing, and in February officially formed \u003ca href=\"https://kickstarterunited.org/\">Kickstarter United\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Personal Loss, Group Gain\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Employees who are still with the company say that because of the union, management has been more receptive to worker grievances, especially now during the pandemic. Employees were able to ensure that staff who got laid off received severance packages and are currently in the process of hammering out a collective bargaining agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the formation of the union came at a cost to individual workers. Last fall, the company fired or pushed out three organizers, herself included. She says she was fired after a complaint by her manager following a meeting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine was shocked. She had just had one of the best sales quarters of her career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Whenever I think back on it, I think it was a little bit of that classic tech culture individualism that made me feel a little more confident than I should have been,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, a spokesperson for Kickstarter said that Redwine was “terminated for legitimate issues that were well documented long before any organizing effort.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine's colleague and fellow organizer Taylor Moore was fired around the same time she was. Last month, the National Labor Relations Board found sufficient evidence that Kickstarter retaliated against Moore for his organizing work. According to Vice News, \u003ca href=\"https://www.vice.com/en/article/xg8n37/kickstarter-settles-complaint-that-it-retaliated-against-union-organizer\">the company recently settled with Moore\u003c/a>, compensating him for more than $36,000 in backpay.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Lessons Learned\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In the end, the union did bring Kickstarter managers to the bargaining table. But the larger goal was always to inspire other tech workers to organize, Redwine says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She hopes the new podcast will help other tech worker organizers avoid the mistakes that she and her co-workers made, like trusting their company’s management and thinking it would be easy to undo existing hierarchies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Groups like the \u003ca href=\"https://techworkerscoalition.org/\">Tech Workers Coalition\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.gameworkersunite.org/\">Game Workers Unite\u003c/a> are trying. They just had success in England, \u003ca href=\"https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/g5p333/uk-tech-workers-launch-first-national-effort-to-unionize-tech-industry\">where several dozen tech workers joined\u003c/a> the Communications Workers Union. And \u003ca href=\"https://www.uniglobalunion.org/news/after-500-days-striking-oracle-korea-workers-union-win-a-recognition-agreement\">in South Korea\u003c/a>, programmers working for companies like Microsoft, Hewlett-Packard and Oracle are unionized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, though, workers at only one other U.S. tech company have successfully followed Kickstarter’s example: the 50 employees at the video game company Glitch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A former Kickstarter employee who says she was fired for helping to organize her co-workers just released an oral history podcast project about the drive to start one of the first unions at a tech startup.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1602114128,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":44,"wordCount":1865},"headData":{"title":"How a Scrappy Group of Tech Workers Formed One of the Only Unions in the Industry | KQED","description":"A former Kickstarter employee who says she was fired for helping to organize her co-workers just released an oral history podcast project about the drive to start one of the first unions at a tech startup.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11839817 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11839817","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/10/07/how-a-scrappy-group-of-tech-workers-formed-one-of-the-only-unions-in-the-industry/","disqusTitle":"How a Scrappy Group of Tech Workers Formed One of the Only Unions in the Industry","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/5f9ea340-ba23-4e6a-aa12-ac4001276dc7/audio.mp3","path":"/news/11839817/how-a-scrappy-group-of-tech-workers-formed-one-of-the-only-unions-in-the-industry","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>It’s not every day a worker in the tech sector will speak on the record, let alone two dozen of them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Companies like Google, Facebook and Apple make workers sign nondisclosure agreements, and typically demand employees run all media requests through their human resources departments. On top of that, workers who do make public remarks have no union to protect them from being fired if the company is unhappy with what they say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I once had an eyewitness at a fire in San Francisco decline to give a comment because he worked at Apple. As the apartment building burned in front of us, he told me he’d be uncomfortable commenting unless his managers signed off on the statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Having power and having a voice in the workplace are different things. A lot of us feel like we have a voice and can speak up, but does that actually change anything?'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Clarissa Redwine","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the story is different at Kickstarter, where over 24 current and former employees have given lengthy interviews about their experiences working for the crowdfunding platform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The interviews are featured in “\u003ca href=\"https://eclive.engelberg.center/\">Kickstarter Union: Oral History\u003c/a>,” a recently released podcast by former employee Clarissa Redwine that documents how workers at the company succeeded earlier this year in forming \u003ca href=\"https://kickstarterunited.org/\">the first white-collar union\u003c/a> at a tech startup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine says the effort led to her and others being forced out of the company. But now that the union is there, she says, workers have more power and protection to speak out in public.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Organizing Challenges\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The story of what happened at Kickstarter shows how difficult it is to organize workers at a company that primarily relies on programming and the internet to do business, and the unique challenges involved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine says she hopes her oral history project encourages other tech workers to unionize and provides a roadmap for them to avoid the pitfalls that stymied her team. The interviews and recordings she has gathered provide a unique inside look at a modern tech company from the perspective of those who are usually unable or unwilling to tell their stories publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Clarissa’s Path\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In 2015, Redwine got her dream job at Kickstarter, managing fundraising projects in the tech and design category. “I was ecstatic,” she said. “When I got the email that I would be joining Kickstarter, I flipped out. I was so excited.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11841339\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 960px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine1.png\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11841339\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine1.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine1-800x600.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine1-160x120.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine1-632x474.png 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine1-536x402.png 536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Clarissa Redwine making ramen for her co-workers in the Kickstarter kitchen (when she still worked there). \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Clarissa Redwine)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Now, five years later, Redwine is not even working in tech anymore — she’s a fellow at New York University, where she’s producing the podcast project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Redwine got into the tech industry, she never expected things would play out like this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I didn’t necessarily have a strong understanding that the way that tech is traditionally infused with capital is harmful,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Kickstarter, Redwine felt empowered, she recalls, like she was doing important work. And she was content with the job for her first three years there — up until the \"Always Punch Nazis\" incident.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Power Struggle\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\"Always Punch Nazis\" is a comic book. In 2018, its writers were trying to raise money on Kickstarter, and they posted a video with dramatic music and images of cartoon characters punching Nazis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the last year or so, there had been growing unrest at the company. The former CEO, Perry Chen, had returned after a four-year hiatus, and not all employees were happy about it. \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/daveyalba/kickstarter-perry-chen-founder-worship-turmoil\">In interviews with Buzzfeed\u003c/a>, some employees accused Chen of being domineering and making unilateral decisions, and about 50 of them either left or were fired shortly after his return.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it was the \"Always Punch Nazis\" situation that brought tensions at the company to a boiling point and that would eventually catalyze the union organizing effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the fundraising page for the comic appeared on Kickstarter in August 2018, bloggers for the right-wing website Breitbart began complaining that the comic promoted violence and violated the company's guidelines. In response, Kickstarter management said they’d take the project down. But many employees advocated for it to remain up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine has a recording of an emergency meeting at the height of the controversy. One employee stood up and said, “I just want to put on the record that not all of us are happy about this. This is super not chill and there is no other way to describe the feeling of being told in a room why we should be okay with this decision.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Employees eventually pressured the company to keep the project on the site. But, according to Redwine, managers started retaliating against some of the employees involved, reprimanding them for publicly speaking out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The whole episode got Redwine and others thinking about how little power they actually had at the company; when it came to making big decisions, employees wouldn’t actually have much say unless they banded together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Having power and having a voice in the workplace are different things,” Redwine said. “A lot of us feel like we have a voice and can speak up, but does that actually change anything? Through this experience, I learned no, no it doesn't. It doesn’t change anything unless you link arms with your fellow co-workers, and use your collective power to challenge management.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Banding Together\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Redwine and others started meeting at a co-worker's apartment — a tiny studio just around the corner from Kickstarter’s offices. They’d cram in and talk about what was bugging them at the company. In addition to the recent incidents, some of them also voiced concern about recent hiring and firing decisions, and the dearth of women and people of color in senior management. The issues varied, but it all boiled down to a general lack of control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"tech-industry"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Although Kickstarter was then a company of less than 100 people, the issues raised by its employees were concerns shared by many workers at larger tech companies. For instance, during the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714714/time-is-up-employee-unrest-grows-at-silicon-valley-companies\">Google Walkout in 2018 \u003c/a>a worker took the stage and said, “We demand structural change. We demand transparency, accountability and equity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google employees have since spoken out against the company’s contracts with the U.S. military, its two-tier class system that separates employees and contractor and sexual harassment issues. But unlike Kickstarter, Google workers have never come close to forming a union.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Getting the Ball Rolling\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>At the meetings in the cramped studio, the group of Kickstarter employees decided they should affiliate with the Office and Professional Employees International Union. Redwine said OPEIU seemed the most committed to helping them unionize and using the effort as a template for organizing workers at other tech firms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine and her co-workers presumed Kickstarter management would embrace the union or at least not actively fight against it. Many of them believed the company truly did strive to have a less hierarchical management structure, as they had consistently claimed. But OPEIU advisors warned them not to be so trusting, and Redwine says they were right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Redwine describes it, management got wind of the organizing effort and started to push back. In meetings, she says, managers spoke about how Kickstarter didn’t need a union, and sent around emails to staff trying to dissuade organizing efforts. Management then outed the unionizing effort, announcing it to the whole company before organizers had contacted everyone individually, she says. And that’s when the group realized management was going to aggressively fight the effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, it’s like, ‘Fool me once, fool me twice…’ I think we got to like fool me 10 times,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kickstarter denies that it was opposed to the organizing effort. In a statement for this story, a Kickstarter spokesperson said, “We fully support and respect our staff’s decision to unionize earlier this year, and we’re proud of the fair and democratic process that got us to where we are today.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11841340\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1290px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2.png\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11841340\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1290\" height=\"860\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2.png 1290w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2-800x533.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2-1020x680.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/redwine2-160x107.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1290px) 100vw, 1290px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Clarissa Redwine giving a talk at Kickstarter headquarters. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Clarissa Redwine)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Redwine says to pull off the union, they had to convince the software engineers to join. Much like in other tech firms, engineers — who keep the tech running — have far more power than employees in sales or marketing, and typically receive better pay and perks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group worked hard to get engineers on board, Redwine says, and after a concerted outreach effort, managed to convince many of them to join the cause. In the end, employees voted 46-to-37 in favor of unionizing, and in February officially formed \u003ca href=\"https://kickstarterunited.org/\">Kickstarter United\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Personal Loss, Group Gain\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Employees who are still with the company say that because of the union, management has been more receptive to worker grievances, especially now during the pandemic. Employees were able to ensure that staff who got laid off received severance packages and are currently in the process of hammering out a collective bargaining agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the formation of the union came at a cost to individual workers. Last fall, the company fired or pushed out three organizers, herself included. She says she was fired after a complaint by her manager following a meeting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine was shocked. She had just had one of the best sales quarters of her career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Whenever I think back on it, I think it was a little bit of that classic tech culture individualism that made me feel a little more confident than I should have been,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, a spokesperson for Kickstarter said that Redwine was “terminated for legitimate issues that were well documented long before any organizing effort.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Redwine's colleague and fellow organizer Taylor Moore was fired around the same time she was. Last month, the National Labor Relations Board found sufficient evidence that Kickstarter retaliated against Moore for his organizing work. According to Vice News, \u003ca href=\"https://www.vice.com/en/article/xg8n37/kickstarter-settles-complaint-that-it-retaliated-against-union-organizer\">the company recently settled with Moore\u003c/a>, compensating him for more than $36,000 in backpay.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Lessons Learned\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In the end, the union did bring Kickstarter managers to the bargaining table. But the larger goal was always to inspire other tech workers to organize, Redwine says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She hopes the new podcast will help other tech worker organizers avoid the mistakes that she and her co-workers made, like trusting their company’s management and thinking it would be easy to undo existing hierarchies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Groups like the \u003ca href=\"https://techworkerscoalition.org/\">Tech Workers Coalition\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.gameworkersunite.org/\">Game Workers Unite\u003c/a> are trying. They just had success in England, \u003ca href=\"https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/g5p333/uk-tech-workers-launch-first-national-effort-to-unionize-tech-industry\">where several dozen tech workers joined\u003c/a> the Communications Workers Union. And \u003ca href=\"https://www.uniglobalunion.org/news/after-500-days-striking-oracle-korea-workers-union-win-a-recognition-agreement\">in South Korea\u003c/a>, programmers working for companies like Microsoft, Hewlett-Packard and Oracle are unionized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, though, workers at only one other U.S. tech company have successfully followed Kickstarter’s example: the 50 employees at the video game company Glitch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11839817/how-a-scrappy-group-of-tech-workers-formed-one-of-the-only-unions-in-the-industry","authors":["253"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_3081","news_20482","news_22705","news_28596","news_794"],"featImg":"news_11840037","label":"news"},"news_142651":{"type":"posts","id":"news_142651","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"142651","score":null,"sort":[1406149538000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"kickstarter-campaign-aims-to-build-bronze-statue-of-barry-bonds","title":"Kickstarter Campaign Aims to Build Bronze Statue of Barry Bonds","publishDate":1406149538,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-142665\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/07/BarryBronze-640x335.jpg\" alt=\"BarryBronze\" width=\"640\" height=\"335\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proving once again that locals couldn't care less about what the haters in the rest of the country think about Barry Bonds, witness this \u003ca href=\"https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2021860612/barry-bronze-the-barry-bonds-statue-project\" target=\"_blank\">Kickstarter campaign\u003c/a>, to crowdfund \"the construction of an 8-foot-plus bronze statue of Barry Bonds, to be installed near AT&T Park.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bonds, of course, has stats that put him near the top of the heap in terms of all-time great hitters, but he has seen his accomplishments tarnished by allegations -- and an \u003ca href=\"http://books.google.com/books?id=AtXm74CbIJoC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false\" target=\"_blank\">entire book\u003c/a>, in fact -- that he took performance-enhancing substances in the midst of baseball's steroids era. The slugger was also the subject of a federal prosecution that claimed he lied to a grand jury about his use of steroids and human growth hormone. In 2011 he was found guilty of obstruction of justice in the case, though a mistrial was declared on three perjury charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/hashtag/BarryBronze?src=hash\" target=\"_blank\">#BarryBronze\u003c/a> effort to create the statue was put together by four fans of baseball's all-time home run leader and twice-spurned Hall of Fame inductee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The campaign went live Tuesday at 9 a.m., Hayden Simmons, one of the fans spearheading the campaign, says. As of this writing, the project has 39 backers who have pledged $3,413 toward the goal of $60,000, with 28 days to go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simmons says he and his friends launched the campaign because they \"have a lot of happy childhood memories built around watching Bonds. He was a big, positive presence in a lot of our lives and we wanted to say a big thank you to him.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the project achieves its funding goal, their plan is to unveil the statue on opening day next year. If the campaign does not meet its goal, contributors will get their money back, as is the case with all Kickstarter campaigns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you're doubtful that this initiative has a chance of meeting its goal, the hopefuls point out that \"the people of Detroit raised over $67K to build a statue of Robocop via Kickstarter.\" Though whether Robocop is more controversial than Bonds, who can say?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The campaign already has a \u003ca href=\"http://www.BigStatues.com/\" target=\"_blank\">professional sculptor\u003c/a> in mind. Simmons tells us he and his friends are currently in discussion with restaurants and businesses near AT&T Park to house the statue, which will cost about $31,000. The rest of the hoped-for $60,000 would go toward transportation, installation, the unveiling party and contributor rewards, which include commemorative Barry Bronze pins and T-shirts on the low end, though $5,000 or more will get you two club-level tickets to opening day and your choice of quotation on the plaque. (\"You suck, cheater\" not eligible.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, official Giants statues of Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Juan Marichal and Orlando Cepeda greet visitors in various locations at AT&T Park, but Bonds' presence has been minimized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2021860612/barry-bronze-the-barry-bonds-statue-project/widget/video.html\" width=\"480\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"> \u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Naturally, since we're in the news biz, we can neither endorse nor condemn this quest. But Simmons says he's already gotten some negative comments. We know one person, at least, who won't be contributing: Keith Olbermann. When the Giants invited Bonds to rejoin the fold as a batting instructor during spring training this year, Olbermann did everything short of challenging Bonds to a duel in the below rant, in which he called Bonds “disgusting” and communicated his personal satisfaction that his failure to make the Hall of Fame would torment him for the rest of his life. He ended with, “I have advice for you: Get lost.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VckPhiyahf8\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Local fans look to create 8-foot likeness of the controversial Giants slugger near AT&T Park.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1406223803,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":14,"wordCount":605},"headData":{"title":"Kickstarter Campaign Aims to Build Bronze Statue of Barry Bonds | KQED","description":"Local fans look to create 8-foot likeness of the controversial Giants slugger near AT&T Park.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"142651 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=142651","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/07/23/kickstarter-campaign-aims-to-build-bronze-statue-of-barry-bonds/","disqusTitle":"Kickstarter Campaign Aims to Build Bronze Statue of Barry Bonds","path":"/news/142651/kickstarter-campaign-aims-to-build-bronze-statue-of-barry-bonds","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-142665\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/07/BarryBronze-640x335.jpg\" alt=\"BarryBronze\" width=\"640\" height=\"335\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proving once again that locals couldn't care less about what the haters in the rest of the country think about Barry Bonds, witness this \u003ca href=\"https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2021860612/barry-bronze-the-barry-bonds-statue-project\" target=\"_blank\">Kickstarter campaign\u003c/a>, to crowdfund \"the construction of an 8-foot-plus bronze statue of Barry Bonds, to be installed near AT&T Park.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bonds, of course, has stats that put him near the top of the heap in terms of all-time great hitters, but he has seen his accomplishments tarnished by allegations -- and an \u003ca href=\"http://books.google.com/books?id=AtXm74CbIJoC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false\" target=\"_blank\">entire book\u003c/a>, in fact -- that he took performance-enhancing substances in the midst of baseball's steroids era. The slugger was also the subject of a federal prosecution that claimed he lied to a grand jury about his use of steroids and human growth hormone. In 2011 he was found guilty of obstruction of justice in the case, though a mistrial was declared on three perjury charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/hashtag/BarryBronze?src=hash\" target=\"_blank\">#BarryBronze\u003c/a> effort to create the statue was put together by four fans of baseball's all-time home run leader and twice-spurned Hall of Fame inductee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The campaign went live Tuesday at 9 a.m., Hayden Simmons, one of the fans spearheading the campaign, says. As of this writing, the project has 39 backers who have pledged $3,413 toward the goal of $60,000, with 28 days to go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simmons says he and his friends launched the campaign because they \"have a lot of happy childhood memories built around watching Bonds. He was a big, positive presence in a lot of our lives and we wanted to say a big thank you to him.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the project achieves its funding goal, their plan is to unveil the statue on opening day next year. If the campaign does not meet its goal, contributors will get their money back, as is the case with all Kickstarter campaigns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you're doubtful that this initiative has a chance of meeting its goal, the hopefuls point out that \"the people of Detroit raised over $67K to build a statue of Robocop via Kickstarter.\" Though whether Robocop is more controversial than Bonds, who can say?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The campaign already has a \u003ca href=\"http://www.BigStatues.com/\" target=\"_blank\">professional sculptor\u003c/a> in mind. Simmons tells us he and his friends are currently in discussion with restaurants and businesses near AT&T Park to house the statue, which will cost about $31,000. The rest of the hoped-for $60,000 would go toward transportation, installation, the unveiling party and contributor rewards, which include commemorative Barry Bronze pins and T-shirts on the low end, though $5,000 or more will get you two club-level tickets to opening day and your choice of quotation on the plaque. (\"You suck, cheater\" not eligible.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, official Giants statues of Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Juan Marichal and Orlando Cepeda greet visitors in various locations at AT&T Park, but Bonds' presence has been minimized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2021860612/barry-bronze-the-barry-bonds-statue-project/widget/video.html\" width=\"480\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"> \u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Naturally, since we're in the news biz, we can neither endorse nor condemn this quest. But Simmons says he's already gotten some negative comments. 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He ended with, “I have advice for you: Get lost.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/VckPhiyahf8'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/VckPhiyahf8'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/142651/kickstarter-campaign-aims-to-build-bronze-statue-of-barry-bonds","authors":["80"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_10"],"tags":["news_87","news_3081"],"featImg":"news_122935","label":"news_6944"},"news_100813":{"type":"posts","id":"news_100813","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"100813","score":null,"sort":[1371848489000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"kickstarter-on-hosting-offensive-guide-we-were-wrong","title":"Kickstarter on Hosting Offensive Guide: \"We Were Wrong\"","publishDate":1371848489,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_100814\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 118px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/06/21/100813/preview-badge-funded/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-100814\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-100814 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/preview-badge-funded.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"118\" height=\"116\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kickstarter\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The proliferation of crowd-funding sites has raised new issues around the ethics of online fundraising.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Probably the best-known of these sites, Kickstarter, posted a \u003ca href=\"http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/we-were-wrong\">statement\u003c/a> on its blog Friday disclosing that it had allowed someone to raise more than $16,000 for a “\u003ca href=\"http://web.archive.org/web/20130620080801/http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tofutofu/above-the-game-a-guide-to-getting-awesome-with-wom\">seduction guide\u003c/a>” that encourages misogynistic behavior.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the headline “We Were Wrong,” Kickstarter reported:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>“On Wednesday morning Kickstarter was sent a blog post quoting disturbing material found on Reddit. The offensive material was part of a draft for a “seduction guide” that someone was using Kickstarter to publish. The posts offended a lot of people — us included — and many asked us to cancel the creator’s project. We didn’t.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>“We were wrong.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>“Why didn’t we cancel the project when this material was brought to our attention? Two things influenced our decision:\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cem>The decision had to be made immediately. We had only two hours from when we found out about the material to when the project was ending. We’ve never acted to remove a project that quickly.\u003c/em>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cem>Our processes, and everyday thinking, bias heavily toward creators. This is deeply ingrained. We feel a duty to our community — and our creators especially — to approach these investigations methodically as there is no margin for error in canceling a project. This thinking made us miss the forest for the trees.\u003c/em>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>“These factors don’t excuse our decision but we hope they add clarity to how we arrived at it.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>“Let us be 100% clear: Content promoting or glorifying violence against women or anyone else has always been prohibited from Kickstarter. If a project page contains hateful or abusive material we don’t approve it in the first place. If we had seen this material when the project was submitted to Kickstarter (we didn’t), it never would have been approved. Kickstarter is committed to a culture of respect.”\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company said there is no way to reclaim the money once it has been claimed, but that it was removing the project page from its platform. It also announced it was donating $25,000 to an anti-sexual violence organization.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1380311619,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":11,"wordCount":380},"headData":{"title":"Kickstarter on Hosting Offensive Guide: \"We Were Wrong\" | KQED","description":"The proliferation of crowd-funding sites has raised new issues around the ethics of online fundraising. Probably the best-known of these sites, Kickstarter, posted a statement on its blog Friday disclosing that it had allowed someone to raise more than $16,000 for a “seduction guide” that encourages misogynistic behavior. 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The offensive material was part of a draft for a “seduction guide” that someone was using Kickstarter to publish. The posts offended a lot of people — us included — and many asked us to cancel the creator’s project. We didn’t.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>“We were wrong.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>“Why didn’t we cancel the project when this material was brought to our attention? Two things influenced our decision:\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cem>The decision had to be made immediately. We had only two hours from when we found out about the material to when the project was ending. We’ve never acted to remove a project that quickly.\u003c/em>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cem>Our processes, and everyday thinking, bias heavily toward creators. This is deeply ingrained. We feel a duty to our community — and our creators especially — to approach these investigations methodically as there is no margin for error in canceling a project. This thinking made us miss the forest for the trees.\u003c/em>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>“These factors don’t excuse our decision but we hope they add clarity to how we arrived at it.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>“Let us be 100% clear: Content promoting or glorifying violence against women or anyone else has always been prohibited from Kickstarter. If a project page contains hateful or abusive material we don’t approve it in the first place. If we had seen this material when the project was submitted to Kickstarter (we didn’t), it never would have been approved. 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It also announced it was donating $25,000 to an anti-sexual violence organization.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/100813/kickstarter-on-hosting-offensive-guide-we-were-wrong","authors":["236"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_248"],"tags":["news_851","news_3081","news_2173"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_78787":{"type":"posts","id":"news_78787","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"78787","score":null,"sort":[1351016872000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"bay-area-startups-await-crowdfunding-regulations","title":"Bay Area Startups Await Crowdfunding Regulations","publishDate":1351016872,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>By Matt Drange, \u003ca href=\"http://www.baycitizen.org/business/story/bay-area-startups-await-crowdfunding/\">The Bay Citizen\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How much online advertising is too much?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/BayCitizenLogo4.png\">\u003cimg class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-78798\" title=\"BayCitizenLogo\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/BayCitizenLogo4.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"218\" height=\"74\">\u003c/a>That’s one of the questions before the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission as it finalizes regulations to let companies to raise money from investors through crowdfunding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The advertising regulations are one of a slew of issues the SEC must address in order to implement the federal Jumpstart Our Business Startups (JOBS) Act, which includes a provision that will allow startups to raise money by selling shares to investors through websites known as funding portals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_78804\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 318px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Money-Sleeve.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-large wp-image-78804\" title=\"Money Sleeve\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Money-Sleeve-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"318\" height=\"211\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jupiter Images\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The JOBS Act, signed by President Barack Obama in April, attempts to adapt the popular idea of Internet crowdfunding to the sophisticated business of selling securities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SEC’s rules are eagerly awaited by some high-tech and financial startups in the Bay Area, which would be able to sell shares without restrictions enacted over the years to protect naïve investors from throwing their money away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, crowdfunding websites are limited to rewards-based models like Kickstarter, where people can donate money in exchange for goods. An individual soliciting donations to support the production of a documentary, for example, might give free copies of the finished product to investors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the new model, companies can register with the SEC as funding portals without having to be a licensed broker-dealer. Broker-dealers are heavily regulated firms that are authorized to sell securities to investors and to give what the SEC considers investment advice.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Equity-based crowdfunding would allow companies to bypass broker-dealers and sell shares to investors who do not meet the $200,000 annual income or $1 million net worth thresholds required under federal law to become an “accredited investor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We think there’s a great opportunity to reach a wider crowd,” said Rory Eakin, co-founder of CircleUp, a San Francisco-based startup that raises funds for companies through a partnership with an established broker-dealer. Rather than wait until the rules are finalized, Eakin said the company is in the process of registering as a broker-dealer itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One important issue the SEC faces as it drafts the crowdfunding regulations is how the funding portals will be allowed to solicit investments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Generally, only broker-dealers are allowed to give what the SEC broadly defines as “investment advice,” a caveat included in the Investment Company Act of 1940 to protect investors. But if a funding portal sends out advertisements to average investors notifying them of a new investment opportunity, there is concern that it could constitute giving advice, said Freeman White, co-founder and CEO of the technology company Launcht, which helps set up funding portals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>White, who is also a member of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.cfira.org/\" target=\"_blank\">Crowdfund Intermediary Regulatory Advocates\u003c/a>, was one of a handful of private industry executives who met with SEC regulators in Washington this month to discuss limits on advertising and soliciting investors. The meeting was the latest in a half-dozen between the group and the SEC, which recently closed the public comment period on its proposed rule changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A portal might send around newsletters that say, ‘You should check this out,’ ” White said. “The concern is that the public will connote that with investment advice. So we’re trying to work out what constitutes advice and how far is too far.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The issue has the attention of many Bay Area startups looking to use the crowdfunding model to fund specific industries, such as CircleUp, which focuses exclusively on retail companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In these cases, the question is whether soliciting potential investors with two or three cash-strapped startups constitutes advice because of the limited scope of the offers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fear, said David Blass, chief counsel and associate director of the SEC’s Trading and Markets Division, is that portals will cherry-pick specific investment opportunities while ignoring others that could be in the best interest of investors. By narrowing the field of investments, Blass said an offer could be taken as giving advice to invest in a particular company or niche industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The JOBS Act also prohibits portals from using personal information to target ads to investors. If an investor searched a portal for a specific company, for example, it would be illegal for that website to target advertisements for similar companies based on the search terms. The practice is common for online shopping websites like Amazon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SEC has until the end of the year to roll out the final regulations, but many in the industry say it isn’t likely to happen until next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some expect the SEC to give crowdfunding portals very little leeway in advertising investment opportunities. Sherwood Neiss, who helped come up with the crowdfunding proposal eventually included in the JOBS Act, said he expects the SEC to restrict advertising to generic notices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s going to be limited,” said Neiss, co-founder of \u003ca href=\"http://crowdfundcapitaladvisors.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Crowdfund Capital Advisors\u003c/a>, a consulting firm with offices in San Francisco that has lobbied the SEC on the regulations. “It won’t say anything about return on investment or how much you’re trying to raise.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They don’t want people pumping up deals,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the excitement over crowdfunding has some worried that the model will open the door for investor fraud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SEC says it is watching for companies already selling to unaccredited investors, but will not say if any have been caught yet. Neiss said he notified the SEC of at least two portals that he thought were operating illegally but declined to name the companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another concern for startups considering crowdfunding as a way to raise capital is that they can be held liable in shareholder lawsuits if fraudulent offers are posted on crowdfunding portals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marc Fagel, regional director of the SEC’s San Francisco office, warned a roomful of people at an investor fraud summit this month in Walnut Creek to be wary of potential scams.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Whenever somebody is talking about new regulations,” Fagel said, “people are going to use that for fraud.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was produced by The Bay Citizen, a project of the Center for Investigative Reporting. Learn more at www.baycitizen.org.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1351016872,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":30,"wordCount":1054},"headData":{"title":"Bay Area Startups Await Crowdfunding Regulations | KQED","description":"By Matt Drange, The Bay Citizen How much online advertising is too much? That’s one of the questions before the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission as it finalizes regulations to let companies to raise money from investors through crowdfunding. The advertising regulations are one of a slew of issues the SEC must address in order","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"78787 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=78787","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/10/23/bay-area-startups-await-crowdfunding-regulations/","disqusTitle":"Bay Area Startups Await Crowdfunding Regulations","path":"/news/78787/bay-area-startups-await-crowdfunding-regulations","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>By Matt Drange, \u003ca href=\"http://www.baycitizen.org/business/story/bay-area-startups-await-crowdfunding/\">The Bay Citizen\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How much online advertising is too much?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/BayCitizenLogo4.png\">\u003cimg class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-78798\" title=\"BayCitizenLogo\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/BayCitizenLogo4.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"218\" height=\"74\">\u003c/a>That’s one of the questions before the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission as it finalizes regulations to let companies to raise money from investors through crowdfunding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The advertising regulations are one of a slew of issues the SEC must address in order to implement the federal Jumpstart Our Business Startups (JOBS) Act, which includes a provision that will allow startups to raise money by selling shares to investors through websites known as funding portals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_78804\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 318px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Money-Sleeve.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-large wp-image-78804\" title=\"Money Sleeve\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Money-Sleeve-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"318\" height=\"211\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jupiter Images\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The JOBS Act, signed by President Barack Obama in April, attempts to adapt the popular idea of Internet crowdfunding to the sophisticated business of selling securities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SEC’s rules are eagerly awaited by some high-tech and financial startups in the Bay Area, which would be able to sell shares without restrictions enacted over the years to protect naïve investors from throwing their money away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, crowdfunding websites are limited to rewards-based models like Kickstarter, where people can donate money in exchange for goods. An individual soliciting donations to support the production of a documentary, for example, might give free copies of the finished product to investors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the new model, companies can register with the SEC as funding portals without having to be a licensed broker-dealer. Broker-dealers are heavily regulated firms that are authorized to sell securities to investors and to give what the SEC considers investment advice.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Equity-based crowdfunding would allow companies to bypass broker-dealers and sell shares to investors who do not meet the $200,000 annual income or $1 million net worth thresholds required under federal law to become an “accredited investor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We think there’s a great opportunity to reach a wider crowd,” said Rory Eakin, co-founder of CircleUp, a San Francisco-based startup that raises funds for companies through a partnership with an established broker-dealer. Rather than wait until the rules are finalized, Eakin said the company is in the process of registering as a broker-dealer itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One important issue the SEC faces as it drafts the crowdfunding regulations is how the funding portals will be allowed to solicit investments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Generally, only broker-dealers are allowed to give what the SEC broadly defines as “investment advice,” a caveat included in the Investment Company Act of 1940 to protect investors. But if a funding portal sends out advertisements to average investors notifying them of a new investment opportunity, there is concern that it could constitute giving advice, said Freeman White, co-founder and CEO of the technology company Launcht, which helps set up funding portals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>White, who is also a member of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.cfira.org/\" target=\"_blank\">Crowdfund Intermediary Regulatory Advocates\u003c/a>, was one of a handful of private industry executives who met with SEC regulators in Washington this month to discuss limits on advertising and soliciting investors. The meeting was the latest in a half-dozen between the group and the SEC, which recently closed the public comment period on its proposed rule changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A portal might send around newsletters that say, ‘You should check this out,’ ” White said. “The concern is that the public will connote that with investment advice. So we’re trying to work out what constitutes advice and how far is too far.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The issue has the attention of many Bay Area startups looking to use the crowdfunding model to fund specific industries, such as CircleUp, which focuses exclusively on retail companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In these cases, the question is whether soliciting potential investors with two or three cash-strapped startups constitutes advice because of the limited scope of the offers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fear, said David Blass, chief counsel and associate director of the SEC’s Trading and Markets Division, is that portals will cherry-pick specific investment opportunities while ignoring others that could be in the best interest of investors. By narrowing the field of investments, Blass said an offer could be taken as giving advice to invest in a particular company or niche industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The JOBS Act also prohibits portals from using personal information to target ads to investors. If an investor searched a portal for a specific company, for example, it would be illegal for that website to target advertisements for similar companies based on the search terms. The practice is common for online shopping websites like Amazon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SEC has until the end of the year to roll out the final regulations, but many in the industry say it isn’t likely to happen until next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some expect the SEC to give crowdfunding portals very little leeway in advertising investment opportunities. Sherwood Neiss, who helped come up with the crowdfunding proposal eventually included in the JOBS Act, said he expects the SEC to restrict advertising to generic notices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s going to be limited,” said Neiss, co-founder of \u003ca href=\"http://crowdfundcapitaladvisors.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Crowdfund Capital Advisors\u003c/a>, a consulting firm with offices in San Francisco that has lobbied the SEC on the regulations. “It won’t say anything about return on investment or how much you’re trying to raise.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They don’t want people pumping up deals,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the excitement over crowdfunding has some worried that the model will open the door for investor fraud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SEC says it is watching for companies already selling to unaccredited investors, but will not say if any have been caught yet. Neiss said he notified the SEC of at least two portals that he thought were operating illegally but declined to name the companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another concern for startups considering crowdfunding as a way to raise capital is that they can be held liable in shareholder lawsuits if fraudulent offers are posted on crowdfunding portals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marc Fagel, regional director of the SEC’s San Francisco office, warned a roomful of people at an investor fraud summit this month in Walnut Creek to be wary of potential scams.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Whenever somebody is talking about new regulations,” Fagel said, “people are going to use that for fraud.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was produced by The Bay Citizen, a project of the Center for Investigative Reporting. Learn more at www.baycitizen.org.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/78787/bay-area-startups-await-crowdfunding-regulations","authors":["236"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8"],"tags":["news_3081","news_3374"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_75151":{"type":"posts","id":"news_75151","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"75151","score":null,"sort":[1346869603000]},"guestAuthors":[{"ID":"98603","displayName":"Aarti Shahani","firstName":"Aarti","lastName":"Shahani","userLogin":"aarti-shahani","userEmail":"ashahani@kqed.org","linkedAccount":"aartishahani","website":"","aim":"","yahooim":"","jabber":"","description":"","userNicename":"aarti-shahani","type":"guest-author"}],"slug":"in-response-to-scrutiny-kickstarter-clarifies-refund-policy","title":"Kickstarter Clarifies Refund Policy After News Report","publishDate":1346869603,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Pre-eminent crowdfunding site \u003ca href=\"http://www.kickstarter.com/\">Kickstarter\u003c/a> responded on Tuesday to a report that \u003ca title=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2012/09/03/160505449/when-a-kickstarter-campaign-fails-does-anyone-get-their-money-back\" href=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2012/09/03/160505449/when-a-kickstarter-campaign-fails-does-anyone-get-their-money-back\">aired on NPR's Morning Edition\u003c/a>. The online funding platform has come under scrutiny after a handful of entrepreneurs have raised millions of dollars more than expected by selling preorders for products they have yet to make. With creators of all types frequently missing delivery deadlines, I posed the question in the original story: when a Kickstarter campaign fails, does anyone get their money back?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_75246\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 248px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/ManatLaptop.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-75246\" title=\"ManatLaptop\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/ManatLaptop.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"248\" height=\"140\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stephanie Pilick/AFP/GettyImages\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/accountability-on-kickstarter\">blog post\u003c/a> yesterday that summarizes Kickstarter policies, founders Perry Chen, Yancey Strickler and Charles Adler wrote, “we take accountability very seriously at Kickstarter.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the three said that while Kickstarter has taken steps to prevent fraud, it cannot refund money on unfulfilled projects. “A Kickstarter where every project is guaranteed would be the same safe bets and retreads we see everywhere else. The fact that Kickstarter allows creators to take risks and attempt to create something ambitious is a feature, not a bug,”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The founders’ responses to the report have been added to Kickstarter's \u003ca href=\"http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/kickstarter%20basics#Acco\">FAQ\u003c/a> as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several comments on the blog thank Kickstarter for the clarification. A few chastise the site for taking so long to state its policies clearly. This comment from Zac Shaw does both, and looks ahead:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As incredible as it is that Kickstarter took this long to address with clarity what has to be the most FAQ of the service, this post is much appreciated. Could still be more transparent. Crowdfunding is about to be barraged by regulatory attacks, but we need to protect the Kickstarters and IndieGoGos of the world to protect our culture and ability to innovate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The evolving phenomenon of crowdfunding will take another leap forward later this year under the federal Jumpstart Our Business Start-Ups (JOBS) Act. Under the law, regulations are expected to be issued that will allow individuals to buy actual shares of a start-up, currently prohibited.\u003c!--more-->Kickstarter co-founder Strickler told me in our interview that the company has no intention of changing its model to allow purchasing of company shares when the practice becomes legal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Securities attorney William Carleton says Kickstarter is adopting language an experienced angel investor might use when mentoring entrepreneurs on how to deal with investor expectations. In an email, he writes:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The first thing that struck me about the [Kickstarter] post: for the first time, the FAQ’s start to sound like 'Risk Factors' from a prospectus or private placement memo. Folded into the 'risk factor' disclosure are disclaimers by Kickstarter of its own agency, and here Kickstarter tries to walk a fine line between being curator or gatekeeper of what is allowed to list (whoops – used a loaded verb there; 'list' suggests securities are being offered!) and responsibility for the integrity of the project.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carleton says Kickstarter is diverging from angel investors, however, by suggesting failure is the outlier rather than the norm for entrepreneurs. He advises: “Set the expectation [that] some people will fail to deliver.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can hear my \u003ca title=\"http://www.californiareport.org/archive/R201208230850/\" href=\"http://www.californiareport.org/archive/R201208230850/\">original piece\u003c/a> on Kickstarter and crowdfunding at The California Report.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1346875493,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":530},"headData":{"title":"Kickstarter Clarifies Refund Policy After News Report | KQED","description":"Pre-eminent crowdfunding site Kickstarter responded on Tuesday to a report that aired on NPR's Morning Edition. 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With creators of all types frequently missing delivery","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"75151 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=75151","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/09/05/in-response-to-scrutiny-kickstarter-clarifies-refund-policy/","disqusTitle":"Kickstarter Clarifies Refund Policy After News Report","path":"/news/75151/in-response-to-scrutiny-kickstarter-clarifies-refund-policy","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Pre-eminent crowdfunding site \u003ca href=\"http://www.kickstarter.com/\">Kickstarter\u003c/a> responded on Tuesday to a report that \u003ca title=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2012/09/03/160505449/when-a-kickstarter-campaign-fails-does-anyone-get-their-money-back\" href=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2012/09/03/160505449/when-a-kickstarter-campaign-fails-does-anyone-get-their-money-back\">aired on NPR's Morning Edition\u003c/a>. The online funding platform has come under scrutiny after a handful of entrepreneurs have raised millions of dollars more than expected by selling preorders for products they have yet to make. With creators of all types frequently missing delivery deadlines, I posed the question in the original story: when a Kickstarter campaign fails, does anyone get their money back?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_75246\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 248px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/ManatLaptop.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-75246\" title=\"ManatLaptop\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/ManatLaptop.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"248\" height=\"140\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stephanie Pilick/AFP/GettyImages\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/accountability-on-kickstarter\">blog post\u003c/a> yesterday that summarizes Kickstarter policies, founders Perry Chen, Yancey Strickler and Charles Adler wrote, “we take accountability very seriously at Kickstarter.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the three said that while Kickstarter has taken steps to prevent fraud, it cannot refund money on unfulfilled projects. “A Kickstarter where every project is guaranteed would be the same safe bets and retreads we see everywhere else. The fact that Kickstarter allows creators to take risks and attempt to create something ambitious is a feature, not a bug,”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The founders’ responses to the report have been added to Kickstarter's \u003ca href=\"http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/kickstarter%20basics#Acco\">FAQ\u003c/a> as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several comments on the blog thank Kickstarter for the clarification. A few chastise the site for taking so long to state its policies clearly. This comment from Zac Shaw does both, and looks ahead:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As incredible as it is that Kickstarter took this long to address with clarity what has to be the most FAQ of the service, this post is much appreciated. Could still be more transparent. Crowdfunding is about to be barraged by regulatory attacks, but we need to protect the Kickstarters and IndieGoGos of the world to protect our culture and ability to innovate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The evolving phenomenon of crowdfunding will take another leap forward later this year under the federal Jumpstart Our Business Start-Ups (JOBS) Act. Under the law, regulations are expected to be issued that will allow individuals to buy actual shares of a start-up, currently prohibited.\u003c!--more-->Kickstarter co-founder Strickler told me in our interview that the company has no intention of changing its model to allow purchasing of company shares when the practice becomes legal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Securities attorney William Carleton says Kickstarter is adopting language an experienced angel investor might use when mentoring entrepreneurs on how to deal with investor expectations. In an email, he writes:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The first thing that struck me about the [Kickstarter] post: for the first time, the FAQ’s start to sound like 'Risk Factors' from a prospectus or private placement memo. Folded into the 'risk factor' disclosure are disclaimers by Kickstarter of its own agency, and here Kickstarter tries to walk a fine line between being curator or gatekeeper of what is allowed to list (whoops – used a loaded verb there; 'list' suggests securities are being offered!) and responsibility for the integrity of the project.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carleton says Kickstarter is diverging from angel investors, however, by suggesting failure is the outlier rather than the norm for entrepreneurs. 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