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They were members of the People’s Temple, led by Jim Jones, a charismatic white man who preached racial equality, through a kind of socialism. But Jones became increasingly paranoid and unhinged, eventually orchestrating what he called an act of revolutionary suicide, telling his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In part two of this two-part story, KQED reporter Tara Siler finishes the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705963/do-you-really-want-to-know-one-mans-search-for-family-from-jonestown-and-beyond\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">story of Robert Spencer,\u003c/a> a Bay Area man determined to trace his own family connection back to Jonestown, even when others ask him: \"Do you really want to know?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11707177/looking-for-family-40-years-after-jonestown-pt-2","authors":["11260"],"programs":["news_20407"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_938","news_20564"],"featImg":"news_11707181","label":"source_news_11707177"},"news_11705963":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11705963","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11705963","score":null,"sort":[1542421854000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"do-you-really-want-to-know-one-mans-search-for-family-from-jonestown-and-beyond","title":"Do You Really Want to Know? One Man's Search for Family From Jonestown and Beyond","publishDate":1542421854,"format":"image","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>For several years now on Nov. 18, Robert Spencer has visited the \u003ca href=\"https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/jonestown-memorial\">Jonestown Memorial\u003c/a> at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. He plans to go again this month — on the 40th anniversary of the massacre that took more than 900 lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert didn’t personally know anyone who died in the mass killing in 1978, but he was connected. And that connection and where it would lead became his life’s mission in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of the men, women and children who perished at Jonestown were from the San Francisco Bay Area. They were members of the Peoples Temple, led by Jim Jones, a charismatic white man who preached racial equality and socialism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706995\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11706995 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"1057\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-1020x678.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-1200x798.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Housing Commissioner Jim Jones at an anti-eviction rally at the I-Hotel at 848 Kearny St. in Manilatown, Sunday, Jan. 16, 1977. Jones was the leader of Peoples Temple. More than 900 members of the church perished after Jones ordered them to drink cyanide-laced punch. \u003ccite>(Nancy Wong/Wikimedia)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Temple was headquartered in San Francisco, but Jones had come under increased scrutiny by the media there. In 1977 he pulled up stakes and took his followers to the South American jungles of Guyana, a multiracial country where he planned to build what he called a \"rainbow utopia.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Jones, a master manipulator, had become increasingly paranoid and unhinged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The day of the massacre, some Temple members ambushed California congressman Leo Ryan, who had gone to Guyana to investigate the group and whether some followers were being held against their will.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ryan -- along with three members of the news media and one Jonestown defector -- were killed. Rep. Jackie Speier, then an aide to Ryan, was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11706669/congresswoman-jackie-speier-on-surviving-jonestown-and-fighting-back-from-personal-and-political-losses\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">shot five times\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That same day, Jones orchestrated what he called an act of “revolutionary suicide,” ordering his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in the Bay Area, as this tragedy was still unfolding on the television news, Robert’s adoptive parents in Hayward told him his birth mother was among the dead. He was just 10 years old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11707044\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11707044\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"895\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Jonestown memorial at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. \u003ccite>(J.P. Dobrin/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>His birth mother’s name was Agnes Bishop Jones, and she was the eldest adopted child of Jim Jones and his wife, Marceline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if that wasn’t enough to lay on a kid, it turned out Agnes also had four other children, all of whom died with their mom in Jonestown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sitting in his home in Martinez, California, Robert still chokes up looking back at that time and the family he never knew. “The news is they’re dead. You’ll never see them. That was the end of that family line.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705830\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 310px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11705830\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"310\" height=\"391\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic.jpg 310w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic-160x202.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 310px) 100vw, 310px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Agnes with three of her children: Stephanie, Jimbo (left) and Billy. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Robert is 50 years old. He’s a park ranger in the San Francisco Bay Area, and a firefighter in the summer. He also volunteers at his church and labor union. He’s a helper -- the kind of guy who will go out of his way to change a stranger’s flat tire. “Maybe that's just a family trait, being helpful,” Robert wonders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For years, Robert shut the door on his family connection to Jonestown and got on with his life. But as his own children were growing up, he became consumed by questions about why he’s helpful, why he’s tall, why his skin is olive and why his eyes are clear-blue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He didn’t want to replace his adoptive parents, who he says loved and raised him. But he says there was “something about that biological connection” that he was desperate to experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wanted to know more about his mother, Agnes, and about her life in the Temple. One big question that nagged him: Why wasn’t he with her and his siblings on that fateful day?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I knew she was dead and I was just trying to connect with someone to say, 'Hey, not all was lost in 1978. You know, I made it at least.' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705778\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2592px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11705778\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2592\" height=\"1944\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2.jpg 2592w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2592px) 100vw, 2592px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robert Spencer at the Basin Fire, Los Padres National Forest, 2008. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Blood is a strange thing. It’s thicker than water for some people and totally overrated for others. The fact that both Agnes and Robert were adopted made searching for blood relatives that much harder, “Who’s family and who’s not?\" he asks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He knew from the internet some basic facts: Agnes was the oldest of eight children adopted by the Joneses. She was married three times. She was 25 years old when she had Robert and 35 years old when she died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, a few years ago, Robert reached out to someone as close to Jonestown as he could get: the only biological child of Jim and Marceline Jones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His name is Stephan Jones. He’s a tall, thin man with intense green eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan survived the 1978 tragedy because he was on the other side of the small South American country playing basketball when his father’s suicide order came down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was 19 years old at the time and had spent his entire life in the Temple.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an interview in San Rafael, Stephan, now 59 years old, explains that even though Agnes was technically his sister, he didn’t really know her. She was 16 years older. “I don’t remember ever living under the same roof,” Stephan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan does recall that Agnes didn’t spend a lot of time with her children in the Temple. That could be because the Temple was based on a communal model and the family unit was discouraged. Stephan also notes the “family” was seen as a \"threat\" to his father Jim Jones’ authority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706996\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11706996\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"845\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-160x85.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-800x425.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-1020x542.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-1200x638.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign for the Peoples Temple in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(DocSpot/YouTube)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When Robert first emailed Stephan looking for information about Agnes, Stephan thought Robert’s story was plausible. He told him that Agnes came and left the Temple more than anybody he can remember. In retrospect, Stephan says her comings and goings were highly unusual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a tragic irony that they all died down there, 'cause I never really felt she was part of the Temple,” says Stephan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Virtually everyone in Jonestown died that day, including Stephan’s parents, one of his brothers, and Agnes, whom he remembers as a “lovely woman ... with a Southern-Midwestern twang.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan wanted to help Robert, in part because he feels an “obligation to be helpful when things connect to my history and my family.” But Stephan can also be wary of people wanting to make some connection to the Temple and Jonestown. People might be looking for a sense of belonging or perhaps trying to heal some deep trauma of their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked if he thought it strange for Robert to show up out of the blue claiming to be Agnes’ son, Stephan howls with laughter:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You got to remember where I come from. Nothing seems strange as far as human behavior.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two finally met in person in 2014 at a reunion of Jonestown survivors, friends and families in San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People there began asking questions about Robert’s claim that Agnes had put him up for adoption. They believed him, but it raised a red flag because Temple members didn’t put their children up for adoption to outsiders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706994\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11706994 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"898\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-800x452.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-1020x576.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-1200x678.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">In 1977, members of the Peoples Temple moved to the South American jungles of Guyana. The leader of the group, Jim Jones, promised a \"rainbow utopia.\" On Nov. 18, 1978, more than 900 people died after Jones ordered them to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Stephan says some at the reunion began to speculate that perhaps Jim Jones was Robert’s biological father and he just wanted to “make that go away\" by putting him up for adoption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some also commented that Stephan and Robert kind of looked alike. They were both thin at the time, they had a similar skin tone, and they had intense eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert also began wondering if Jim Jones might be his biological father and asked Stephan if he would take a DNA test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the idea that Jim Jones might be Robert’s father is pretty creepy on a few levels. For one thing, it would mean Agnes might have been molested by her adoptive father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The genetic test raised a big question for Robert -- one that Stephan asked him point-blank: “Do you really want to know that Jim Jones is your dad? Do you want to know that?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan was also concerned that Robert might be looking for a family connection that he couldn’t necessarily provide. Stephan was raised in the Temple and thrown together with eight adopted siblings of different backgrounds. He had no history with Robert and told him that if they did share the same father, it “changes nothing for me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://youtu.be/qHB31AVTK9I\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite his concerns, Stephan didn’t want to be the one person standing in the way of something so important to Robert. And so Stephan agreed to take the DNA test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It took a long time to get the result, but there was a sense of relief for Robert when it came back negative. “That would have been horrible news to find out that Jim Jones is your father,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Stephan, the actual biological son of Jim Jones, the DNA test was an end in itself. He moved on. He had his own family to think about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert admits there was a slight disappointment with the test result. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Man, I thought I may have got a brother, and that was not the case after all.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert was incredibly frustrated. He’d been searching off and on for a decade for a living blood relative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the next few years, he kept up the search. While he was working his day job as a park ranger near Oakland, and fighting wildfires around the state, he was sending off his DNA to various websites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert’s luck was about to turn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This past summer, as he was running between blazes, he found a genetic match with a man named Harmony LaBeff, a 37-year-old pastor in Chicago. The two couldn’t quite figure out how they might be related.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this stage, Robert also had a DNA match with a distant cousin, who was a whiz at genealogy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a lot of online sleuthing, she thought she had found a close relative of Robert's. Not of his birth mother, Agnes, but the man who crossed paths with her back in 1967.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harmony LaBeff’s grandfather, Thomas LaBeff, was born in Smackover, Arkansas, in 1935. He now lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most people don't know Thomas by his birth name. Columbia Records changed it when he began performing decades ago.\u003ca href=\"http://www.sleepylabeef.com/\"> Sleepy LaBeef’s\u003c/a> numerous album covers feature a tall man with slightly sleepy eyes, which is where he got his first name \"because I looked like I was about half-awake most of the time,\" he explains with a chuckle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705831\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11705831\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-800x490.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"490\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-800x490.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-160x98.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1020x624.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1200x734.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1920x1175.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sleepy LaBeef memorabilia, displayed on a coffee table in his living room in Fayetteville. \u003ccite>(Daniel Caruth/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sleepy LaBeef has been playing a rich mix of American roots music -- blues, country and rockabilly -- for more than six decades. At 83 years old, he still commands a stage with his rich baritone and guitar playing. In fact, he’s got a concert lined up in Ohio in December.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sleepy is considered a musical icon to his fans, many of whom say he never quite got the recognition he deserved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may be one reason Robert had never heard of Sleepy prior to getting the DNA match with Sleepy’s grandson. Sleepy and his family had never heard of Robert, until this past August when he left a phone message saying he might be related to Sleepy. Sleepy’s wife, Linda, says she “didn’t give it a high priority,\" assuming it was a distant cousin of Sleepy's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since Robert was not getting a return phone call, he put his firefighting duties aside, and jumped on a plane to Fayetteville for the ultimate cold call.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706087\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2848px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11706087\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2848\" height=\"4272\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015.jpg 2848w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-800x1200.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-1020x1530.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-1920x2880.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2848px) 100vw, 2848px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sleepy LaBeef with Dave Pomeroy in the background. Richmond Folk Festival, 2012. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Dave Pomeroy)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Upon landing, Robert called Sleepy again and the two agreed to meet at a coffee shop. Robert, not knowing what to expect, arrived early and asked for a more private table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it turned out it wasn’t just Sleepy coming. His whole family arrived: his wife, their kids and their grandchildren.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Linda says she picked Robert out instantly at the restaurant because of his strong physical resemblance to Sleepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert’s eyes and smile were the giveaway for Jesse, Linda and Sleepy’s oldest daughter. “He pretty much looks like a younger version of my dad,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert didn’t see the resemblance. Of course, he was staring across the table at an 83-year-old man. But from the moment they all met, they describe an instant connection, almost spiritual. “He was family,” says Linda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705779\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705779 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robert Spencer and his father, Sleepy LaBeef, at the lab in Fayetteville taking the DNA test in August 2018. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The two decided to take a DNA test to confirm they were related. But Linda describes their bond as so strong with Robert that even if there was no DNA match, they’d still want him as part of their family. Yet everyone agreed a test was still needed, if only to give Robert a sense of validation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert and Sleepy went to a lab in Fayetteville and took the test. Robert didn’t get the result until he returned to California: 99.99 percent probability that Sleepy is Robert’s biological father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert had yet to really raise the subject of Agnes with Sleepy. The DNA confirmation gave him hope that his father could provide some insights into his birth mother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705833\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705833 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-800x864.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"864\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-800x864.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-160x173.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1020x1102.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1111x1200.jpg 1111w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1920x2074.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Linda LaBeef and Robert Spencer in the LaBeef kitchen in Fayetteville, Arkansas, in 2018. \u003ccite>(Daniel Caruth/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Within three weeks, Robert jumped on a plane again for a 10-day visit to Arkansas. He threw himself into the family’s daily routine, helping shuttle grandkids to various activities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the evening, he’d bend over photo albums tracking the family and Sleepy’s musical life on the road, trying to digest decades of lost history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this early stage in their relationship, Robert had already begun calling Sleepy and Linda \"Dad\" and \"Mom.\" The three daughters are calling him their brother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard not to be struck by how fast the new relationship is moving. They have no shared memories, holidays or dramas—all the wonderful and messy stuff that defines family for so many.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sleepy, who has a large family of half-siblings, says he’s not surprised things are working out. “There’s always room for more,” he chuckles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert had finally found the family he’d been searching for, and along the way he also found some answers: His olive skin is from his mother and his tall build and blue eyes are from his dad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Sleepy couldn't provide any insights into Agnes. The details of how Sleepy met his birth mother back in the 1960s are pretty fuzzy. Sleepy says he likely met Agnes at a Nashville club, possibly Tootsie's Orchid Lounge or the Honey Club. Fans would come backstage to meet the musicians and “sometimes we were not as responsible as we should have been ... and so things happened,” says Sleepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 10 years after things \"\u003cem>happened\u003c/em>\" between Sleepy and Agnes, she and her four children would die in Jonestown. Her body was buried in Indiana, where she was born. The unclaimed bodies of her children -- Robert’s siblings -- were placed in a mass grave in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just four days before the tragedy, Sleepy and Linda got married in Texas. They watched the news in horror with the rest of the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And Robert escaped that,” says Sleepy. “So that was a blessing that he missed it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So many things Robert has wanted to know about his birth mother are buried in Jonestown. But he seems at peace, concluding he's a product of the times: a \"rock 'n' roll baby.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some families are joined at the hip and some try desperately to get away from each other. Robert Spencer sought out complete strangers and got lucky with a DNA match and acceptance. But even his new Arkansas family will require some navigating. “I'm a Democrat, they're Republicans. And so we're different.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert doesn’t seem concerned about this red-blue divide. Or that they’re Pentecostal and he’s not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He is already planning to return to Fayetteville for Thanksgiving, when the extended family is set to welcome him and his family into the fold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert says it will be a fitting holiday since he has so much to be thankful for: his adoptive parents for raising him in a loving home, for Stephan Jones for helping him in his long search, and for his new family in Arkansas for embracing him so unconditionally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, of course, he's thankful for Agnes for giving birth to him in the first place, and then letting him go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Forty years ago, preacher Jim Jones ordered hundreds of his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch. One man unravels the tangled family history that binds him to that tragedy.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1594422174,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":81,"wordCount":3005},"headData":{"title":"Do You Really Want to Know? One Man's Search for Family From Jonestown and Beyond | KQED","description":"Forty years ago, preacher Jim Jones ordered hundreds of his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch. One man unravels the tangled family history that binds him to that tragedy.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11705963 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11705963","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/11/16/do-you-really-want-to-know-one-mans-search-for-family-from-jonestown-and-beyond/","disqusTitle":"Do You Really Want to Know? One Man's Search for Family From Jonestown and Beyond","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2019/01/JonestownFinal.mp3","audioTrackLength":1725,"path":"/news/11705963/do-you-really-want-to-know-one-mans-search-for-family-from-jonestown-and-beyond","audioDuration":1735000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>For several years now on Nov. 18, Robert Spencer has visited the \u003ca href=\"https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/jonestown-memorial\">Jonestown Memorial\u003c/a> at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. He plans to go again this month — on the 40th anniversary of the massacre that took more than 900 lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert didn’t personally know anyone who died in the mass killing in 1978, but he was connected. And that connection and where it would lead became his life’s mission in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of the men, women and children who perished at Jonestown were from the San Francisco Bay Area. They were members of the Peoples Temple, led by Jim Jones, a charismatic white man who preached racial equality and socialism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706995\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11706995 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"1057\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-1020x678.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-1200x798.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Housing Commissioner Jim Jones at an anti-eviction rally at the I-Hotel at 848 Kearny St. in Manilatown, Sunday, Jan. 16, 1977. Jones was the leader of Peoples Temple. More than 900 members of the church perished after Jones ordered them to drink cyanide-laced punch. \u003ccite>(Nancy Wong/Wikimedia)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Temple was headquartered in San Francisco, but Jones had come under increased scrutiny by the media there. In 1977 he pulled up stakes and took his followers to the South American jungles of Guyana, a multiracial country where he planned to build what he called a \"rainbow utopia.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Jones, a master manipulator, had become increasingly paranoid and unhinged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The day of the massacre, some Temple members ambushed California congressman Leo Ryan, who had gone to Guyana to investigate the group and whether some followers were being held against their will.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ryan -- along with three members of the news media and one Jonestown defector -- were killed. Rep. Jackie Speier, then an aide to Ryan, was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11706669/congresswoman-jackie-speier-on-surviving-jonestown-and-fighting-back-from-personal-and-political-losses\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">shot five times\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That same day, Jones orchestrated what he called an act of “revolutionary suicide,” ordering his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in the Bay Area, as this tragedy was still unfolding on the television news, Robert’s adoptive parents in Hayward told him his birth mother was among the dead. He was just 10 years old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11707044\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11707044\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"895\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Jonestown memorial at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. \u003ccite>(J.P. Dobrin/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>His birth mother’s name was Agnes Bishop Jones, and she was the eldest adopted child of Jim Jones and his wife, Marceline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if that wasn’t enough to lay on a kid, it turned out Agnes also had four other children, all of whom died with their mom in Jonestown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sitting in his home in Martinez, California, Robert still chokes up looking back at that time and the family he never knew. “The news is they’re dead. You’ll never see them. That was the end of that family line.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705830\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 310px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11705830\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"310\" height=\"391\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic.jpg 310w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic-160x202.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 310px) 100vw, 310px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Agnes with three of her children: Stephanie, Jimbo (left) and Billy. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Robert is 50 years old. He’s a park ranger in the San Francisco Bay Area, and a firefighter in the summer. He also volunteers at his church and labor union. He’s a helper -- the kind of guy who will go out of his way to change a stranger’s flat tire. “Maybe that's just a family trait, being helpful,” Robert wonders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For years, Robert shut the door on his family connection to Jonestown and got on with his life. But as his own children were growing up, he became consumed by questions about why he’s helpful, why he’s tall, why his skin is olive and why his eyes are clear-blue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He didn’t want to replace his adoptive parents, who he says loved and raised him. But he says there was “something about that biological connection” that he was desperate to experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wanted to know more about his mother, Agnes, and about her life in the Temple. One big question that nagged him: Why wasn’t he with her and his siblings on that fateful day?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I knew she was dead and I was just trying to connect with someone to say, 'Hey, not all was lost in 1978. You know, I made it at least.' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705778\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2592px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11705778\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2592\" height=\"1944\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2.jpg 2592w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2592px) 100vw, 2592px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robert Spencer at the Basin Fire, Los Padres National Forest, 2008. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Blood is a strange thing. It’s thicker than water for some people and totally overrated for others. The fact that both Agnes and Robert were adopted made searching for blood relatives that much harder, “Who’s family and who’s not?\" he asks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He knew from the internet some basic facts: Agnes was the oldest of eight children adopted by the Joneses. She was married three times. She was 25 years old when she had Robert and 35 years old when she died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, a few years ago, Robert reached out to someone as close to Jonestown as he could get: the only biological child of Jim and Marceline Jones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His name is Stephan Jones. He’s a tall, thin man with intense green eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan survived the 1978 tragedy because he was on the other side of the small South American country playing basketball when his father’s suicide order came down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was 19 years old at the time and had spent his entire life in the Temple.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an interview in San Rafael, Stephan, now 59 years old, explains that even though Agnes was technically his sister, he didn’t really know her. She was 16 years older. “I don’t remember ever living under the same roof,” Stephan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan does recall that Agnes didn’t spend a lot of time with her children in the Temple. That could be because the Temple was based on a communal model and the family unit was discouraged. Stephan also notes the “family” was seen as a \"threat\" to his father Jim Jones’ authority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706996\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11706996\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"845\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-160x85.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-800x425.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-1020x542.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-1200x638.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign for the Peoples Temple in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(DocSpot/YouTube)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When Robert first emailed Stephan looking for information about Agnes, Stephan thought Robert’s story was plausible. He told him that Agnes came and left the Temple more than anybody he can remember. In retrospect, Stephan says her comings and goings were highly unusual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a tragic irony that they all died down there, 'cause I never really felt she was part of the Temple,” says Stephan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Virtually everyone in Jonestown died that day, including Stephan’s parents, one of his brothers, and Agnes, whom he remembers as a “lovely woman ... with a Southern-Midwestern twang.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan wanted to help Robert, in part because he feels an “obligation to be helpful when things connect to my history and my family.” But Stephan can also be wary of people wanting to make some connection to the Temple and Jonestown. People might be looking for a sense of belonging or perhaps trying to heal some deep trauma of their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked if he thought it strange for Robert to show up out of the blue claiming to be Agnes’ son, Stephan howls with laughter:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You got to remember where I come from. Nothing seems strange as far as human behavior.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two finally met in person in 2014 at a reunion of Jonestown survivors, friends and families in San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People there began asking questions about Robert’s claim that Agnes had put him up for adoption. They believed him, but it raised a red flag because Temple members didn’t put their children up for adoption to outsiders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706994\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11706994 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"898\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-800x452.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-1020x576.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-1200x678.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">In 1977, members of the Peoples Temple moved to the South American jungles of Guyana. The leader of the group, Jim Jones, promised a \"rainbow utopia.\" On Nov. 18, 1978, more than 900 people died after Jones ordered them to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Stephan says some at the reunion began to speculate that perhaps Jim Jones was Robert’s biological father and he just wanted to “make that go away\" by putting him up for adoption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some also commented that Stephan and Robert kind of looked alike. They were both thin at the time, they had a similar skin tone, and they had intense eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert also began wondering if Jim Jones might be his biological father and asked Stephan if he would take a DNA test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the idea that Jim Jones might be Robert’s father is pretty creepy on a few levels. For one thing, it would mean Agnes might have been molested by her adoptive father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The genetic test raised a big question for Robert -- one that Stephan asked him point-blank: “Do you really want to know that Jim Jones is your dad? Do you want to know that?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan was also concerned that Robert might be looking for a family connection that he couldn’t necessarily provide. Stephan was raised in the Temple and thrown together with eight adopted siblings of different backgrounds. He had no history with Robert and told him that if they did share the same father, it “changes nothing for me.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/qHB31AVTK9I'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/qHB31AVTK9I'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Despite his concerns, Stephan didn’t want to be the one person standing in the way of something so important to Robert. And so Stephan agreed to take the DNA test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It took a long time to get the result, but there was a sense of relief for Robert when it came back negative. “That would have been horrible news to find out that Jim Jones is your father,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Stephan, the actual biological son of Jim Jones, the DNA test was an end in itself. He moved on. He had his own family to think about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert admits there was a slight disappointment with the test result. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Man, I thought I may have got a brother, and that was not the case after all.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert was incredibly frustrated. He’d been searching off and on for a decade for a living blood relative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the next few years, he kept up the search. While he was working his day job as a park ranger near Oakland, and fighting wildfires around the state, he was sending off his DNA to various websites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert’s luck was about to turn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This past summer, as he was running between blazes, he found a genetic match with a man named Harmony LaBeff, a 37-year-old pastor in Chicago. The two couldn’t quite figure out how they might be related.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this stage, Robert also had a DNA match with a distant cousin, who was a whiz at genealogy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a lot of online sleuthing, she thought she had found a close relative of Robert's. Not of his birth mother, Agnes, but the man who crossed paths with her back in 1967.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harmony LaBeff’s grandfather, Thomas LaBeff, was born in Smackover, Arkansas, in 1935. He now lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most people don't know Thomas by his birth name. Columbia Records changed it when he began performing decades ago.\u003ca href=\"http://www.sleepylabeef.com/\"> Sleepy LaBeef’s\u003c/a> numerous album covers feature a tall man with slightly sleepy eyes, which is where he got his first name \"because I looked like I was about half-awake most of the time,\" he explains with a chuckle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705831\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11705831\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-800x490.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"490\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-800x490.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-160x98.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1020x624.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1200x734.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1920x1175.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sleepy LaBeef memorabilia, displayed on a coffee table in his living room in Fayetteville. \u003ccite>(Daniel Caruth/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sleepy LaBeef has been playing a rich mix of American roots music -- blues, country and rockabilly -- for more than six decades. At 83 years old, he still commands a stage with his rich baritone and guitar playing. In fact, he’s got a concert lined up in Ohio in December.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sleepy is considered a musical icon to his fans, many of whom say he never quite got the recognition he deserved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may be one reason Robert had never heard of Sleepy prior to getting the DNA match with Sleepy’s grandson. Sleepy and his family had never heard of Robert, until this past August when he left a phone message saying he might be related to Sleepy. Sleepy’s wife, Linda, says she “didn’t give it a high priority,\" assuming it was a distant cousin of Sleepy's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since Robert was not getting a return phone call, he put his firefighting duties aside, and jumped on a plane to Fayetteville for the ultimate cold call.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706087\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2848px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11706087\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2848\" height=\"4272\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015.jpg 2848w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-800x1200.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-1020x1530.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-1920x2880.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2848px) 100vw, 2848px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sleepy LaBeef with Dave Pomeroy in the background. Richmond Folk Festival, 2012. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Dave Pomeroy)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Upon landing, Robert called Sleepy again and the two agreed to meet at a coffee shop. Robert, not knowing what to expect, arrived early and asked for a more private table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it turned out it wasn’t just Sleepy coming. His whole family arrived: his wife, their kids and their grandchildren.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Linda says she picked Robert out instantly at the restaurant because of his strong physical resemblance to Sleepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert’s eyes and smile were the giveaway for Jesse, Linda and Sleepy’s oldest daughter. “He pretty much looks like a younger version of my dad,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert didn’t see the resemblance. Of course, he was staring across the table at an 83-year-old man. But from the moment they all met, they describe an instant connection, almost spiritual. “He was family,” says Linda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705779\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705779 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robert Spencer and his father, Sleepy LaBeef, at the lab in Fayetteville taking the DNA test in August 2018. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The two decided to take a DNA test to confirm they were related. But Linda describes their bond as so strong with Robert that even if there was no DNA match, they’d still want him as part of their family. Yet everyone agreed a test was still needed, if only to give Robert a sense of validation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert and Sleepy went to a lab in Fayetteville and took the test. Robert didn’t get the result until he returned to California: 99.99 percent probability that Sleepy is Robert’s biological father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert had yet to really raise the subject of Agnes with Sleepy. The DNA confirmation gave him hope that his father could provide some insights into his birth mother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705833\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705833 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-800x864.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"864\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-800x864.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-160x173.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1020x1102.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1111x1200.jpg 1111w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1920x2074.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Linda LaBeef and Robert Spencer in the LaBeef kitchen in Fayetteville, Arkansas, in 2018. \u003ccite>(Daniel Caruth/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Within three weeks, Robert jumped on a plane again for a 10-day visit to Arkansas. He threw himself into the family’s daily routine, helping shuttle grandkids to various activities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the evening, he’d bend over photo albums tracking the family and Sleepy’s musical life on the road, trying to digest decades of lost history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this early stage in their relationship, Robert had already begun calling Sleepy and Linda \"Dad\" and \"Mom.\" The three daughters are calling him their brother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard not to be struck by how fast the new relationship is moving. They have no shared memories, holidays or dramas—all the wonderful and messy stuff that defines family for so many.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sleepy, who has a large family of half-siblings, says he’s not surprised things are working out. “There’s always room for more,” he chuckles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert had finally found the family he’d been searching for, and along the way he also found some answers: His olive skin is from his mother and his tall build and blue eyes are from his dad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Sleepy couldn't provide any insights into Agnes. The details of how Sleepy met his birth mother back in the 1960s are pretty fuzzy. Sleepy says he likely met Agnes at a Nashville club, possibly Tootsie's Orchid Lounge or the Honey Club. Fans would come backstage to meet the musicians and “sometimes we were not as responsible as we should have been ... and so things happened,” says Sleepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 10 years after things \"\u003cem>happened\u003c/em>\" between Sleepy and Agnes, she and her four children would die in Jonestown. Her body was buried in Indiana, where she was born. The unclaimed bodies of her children -- Robert’s siblings -- were placed in a mass grave in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just four days before the tragedy, Sleepy and Linda got married in Texas. They watched the news in horror with the rest of the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And Robert escaped that,” says Sleepy. “So that was a blessing that he missed it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So many things Robert has wanted to know about his birth mother are buried in Jonestown. But he seems at peace, concluding he's a product of the times: a \"rock 'n' roll baby.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some families are joined at the hip and some try desperately to get away from each other. Robert Spencer sought out complete strangers and got lucky with a DNA match and acceptance. But even his new Arkansas family will require some navigating. “I'm a Democrat, they're Republicans. And so we're different.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert doesn’t seem concerned about this red-blue divide. Or that they’re Pentecostal and he’s not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He is already planning to return to Fayetteville for Thanksgiving, when the extended family is set to welcome him and his family into the fold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert says it will be a fitting holiday since he has so much to be thankful for: his adoptive parents for raising him in a loving home, for Stephan Jones for helping him in his long search, and for his new family in Arkansas for embracing him so unconditionally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, of course, he's thankful for Agnes for giving birth to him in the first place, and then letting him go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11705963/do-you-really-want-to-know-one-mans-search-for-family-from-jonestown-and-beyond","authors":["257"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21690","news_20397","news_2331","news_940","news_938","news_21268","news_22018","news_28234"],"featImg":"news_11707045","label":"news_72"},"news_11705650":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11705650","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11705650","score":null,"sort":[1541934018000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"a-jonestown-family-story-pt-1","title":"Looking for Family 40 Years After Jonestown, Pt. 1","publishDate":1541934018,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Q’ed Up | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>40 years ago this month, more than 900 people—mostly from the Bay Area—died in Jonestown, a remote settlement in the South American country of Guyana. They were members of the People’s Temple, led by Jim Jones, a charismatic white man who preached racial equality, through a kind of socialism. But Jones became increasingly paranoid and unhinged, eventually orchestrating what he called an act of revolutionary suicide, telling his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In part one of this two-part story, KQED reporter Tara Siler tells the story of one man determined to trace his own family connection back to Jonestown, even when others ask him: \"Do you really want to know?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The mass suicide at Jonestown is one of the most infamous events in U.S. history. Would you want to know if you were related to the man at the heart of the tragedy?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1542513828,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":4,"wordCount":121},"headData":{"title":"Looking for Family 40 Years After Jonestown, Pt. 1 | KQED","description":"The mass suicide at Jonestown is one of the most infamous events in U.S. history. 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They were members of the People’s Temple, led by Jim Jones, a charismatic white man who preached racial equality, through a kind of socialism. But Jones became increasingly paranoid and unhinged, eventually orchestrating what he called an act of revolutionary suicide, telling his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In part one of this two-part story, KQED reporter Tara Siler tells the story of one man determined to trace his own family connection back to Jonestown, even when others ask him: \"Do you really want to know?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11705650/a-jonestown-family-story-pt-1","authors":["11260"],"programs":["news_20407"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_940","news_938","news_20564"],"featImg":"news_11705652","label":"source_news_11705650"},"news_11403611":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11403611","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11403611","score":null,"sort":[1491945300000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"nearly-40-years-later-jonestown-offers-a-lesson-in-demagoguery","title":"Nearly 40 Years Later, Jonestown Offers a Lesson in Demagoguery","publishDate":1491945300,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>On Nov. 18, 1978, an itinerant preacher, faith healer and civil rights activist named the Rev. Jim Jones led more than 900 of his followers to kill themselves by drinking cyanide-laced Flavor Aid at their Jonestown settlement in the jungle of Guyana. Nearly 40 years later, questions still linger regarding the Jonestown massacre and the man who inspired it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Journalist Jeff Guinn details how Jones captivated his followers in his new book, \u003cem>The Road to Jonestown. \u003c/em>He calls Jones a \"tremendous performer\" who exhibited \"the classic tendencies of the demagogue.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guinn says Jones, who founded Peoples Temple church, would take current events and exaggerate them to create a sense of fear and urgency. He drew his followers to Guyana by convincing them that America was facing imminent threats of martial law, concentration camps and nuclear war.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"VKDWporEIpc13cjWlLOLZ6f5lczScgnS\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After claims of abuse in Jonestown surfaced, California Rep. Leo Ryan came to Guyana to investigate. A number of Jonestown residents sought to return to the U.S. with Ryan, but others opened fire on the delegation, killing the congressman and four others. The mass suicide followed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guinn says the lessons of Jonestown still resonate today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Jim Jones epitomizes the worst that can happen when we let one person dictate what we hear [and] what we believe,\" he says. \"We can only change that if we learn from the past and try to apply it to today.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/523348069/523435966\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" title=\"NPR embedded audio player\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Interview Highlights\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the idealistic side of Jones' Peoples Temple church\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jim Jones originally organized Peoples Temple as a storefront church in Indianapolis in the late 1940s and early 1950s. It became one of the first major mixed-race churches in that part of the country, and Jones was instrumental in integrating Indianapolis, which had been one of the most segregated cities in America. They later moved to California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The purpose of Peoples Temple, as stated, was to feed the hungry, clothe the needy, ostensibly to try to raise up all the people who had been left out by society. Privately, within their organization, within their meetings where no outsiders were allowed, they also talked about what they were trying to do was set a \"socialist example,\" everyone treated the same, where race, money, nothing mattered. Human dignity was at a premium.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On how Jones tricked people but also appealed to their interest in social justice\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instinctively, he understood the things that he would need to do in front of a crowd, not just to get their attention, but to hold it and be remembered by them. ... He would [fake] being able to summon cancers from people's bodies, which were actually rotten chicken parts that he would have planted earlier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"kArpSdkY2HOmlg3WCMZU1IgHxH2A6ulS\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even then, as he starts to gain a following through these apparent miracles, he has a number of followers who are well aware [that] it's a trick. But they tell themselves Jim is doing what he has to do to bring people in for the greater good, because at the same time he's ... tricking people, he's also out there working for integration, for civil rights, for women's rights, and that is his argument: \"I need to do whatever is necessary to get people into the cause. After that we can all accomplish great things.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On how Jones targeted poor people to join his following\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The whole idea was that they would distribute these flyers, not in the well-to-do parts of town; they would go into the ghettos, into the public housing, where people have absolutely nothing. He understood that when you believe life is almost hopeless, that's when you're most ready to buy into some miracle that might lift you up. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The people who followed Jim Jones, many of them, [were] intelligent, socially conscious, ready to work hard to make the world better, and ultimately he sacrificed them to his own ego and his own belief in himself. That is unforgivable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On Jones orchestrating a mass suicide of his followers\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the end in November 1978, Jones' attitude towards his followers had changed. In the early stages of his ministry, when actually great things were often being accomplished, he thought of himself as the shepherd guarding his flock. More and more over the years, as his paranoia increased, as his drug use increased, he began to think of himself at war with almost everyone in the outside world — the United States government, all kinds of secret forces. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the end he saw himself as a general, and his followers were his troops, and ... Jones made the decision that there must be one last great gesture so that his name would live in history ... [and that it] would require the deaths of his followers. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If Leo Ryan, the congressman, had not come to Jonestown there still would've been some event at this point that would've triggered Jones' order to everyone to commit a \"revolutionary act,\" as he called it. He tried to convince them it wasn't suicide, it was something much grander than that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On trying to understand how 900 victims agreed to the suicide\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the things that's hardest for us to understand now, looking back almost 40 years, is how almost 900 people ... could have followed what appeared to be ridiculous orders from an obvious demagogue to kill themselves — but it's much more complicated than that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"qExD8o8WQ3JQxQazYiTIuuEfeNKU9g3b\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>First of all, not everybody in Jonestown that day did agree to die, to drink the poison. ... Out of over 900 human beings, 300 children, many of them infants, they have no choice. Their parents are making the choice for them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, we have another third, who are elderly people, who aren't in the best of health, who if they don't follow Jim Jones' orders are going to be left out in the deepest, densest, most dangerous jungle in the world. Their choices essentially are die quickly or die long, lingering deaths.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the middle you have the adults, the younger people, and even among them there's no unanimity. Some do believe that Jim Jones is God or something close to God and they worship him and if he says \"do this\" they're going to. Others don't believe Jones is a god, but they believe in their cause, and they have bought into his preaching that the rest of the world is coming in to get them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the day that the Guyanese troops came to Jonestown and saw what happened\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Guyanese troops that came in the next morning thought they were going to be facing armed revolutionaries. They guessed there might be 100 or more Jonestown men armed with rifles waiting for them, so they're coming through the jungle cautiously.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's the hot season in Guyana. There's been a torrential downpour the day before and steam is coming up from the floor of the jungle. It's almost like fog. And so they're coming into Jonestown in the perimeter expecting to be attacked any minute. They've got their guns up and ready, the fog, the steam is in front of them, they can hardly see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of a sudden they start to stumble and they think that maybe these revolutionaries placed logs on the ground to trip them up, and now they're going to start shooting from ambush — and then a couple of the soldiers look down and they can see through the fog and they start screaming, because there are bodies everywhere, almost more than they can count, and they're so horrified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Radio producer Sam Briger and web producers Bridget Bentz and Molly Seavy-Nesper contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2017 Fresh Air. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/\">Fresh Air\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Nearly+40+Years+Later%2C+Jonestown+Offers+A+Lesson+In+Demagoguery+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In 1978, more than 900 followers of Rev. Jim Jones committed mass suicide in Guyana. In a new book, journalist Jeff Guinn details how Jones captivated so many.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1491947211,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":35,"wordCount":1307},"headData":{"title":"Nearly 40 Years Later, Jonestown Offers a Lesson in Demagoguery | KQED","description":"In 1978, more than 900 followers of Rev. Jim Jones committed mass suicide in Guyana. 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Jim Jones led more than 900 of his followers to kill themselves by drinking cyanide-laced Flavor Aid at their Jonestown settlement in the jungle of Guyana. Nearly 40 years later, questions still linger regarding the Jonestown massacre and the man who inspired it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Journalist Jeff Guinn details how Jones captivated his followers in his new book, \u003cem>The Road to Jonestown. \u003c/em>He calls Jones a \"tremendous performer\" who exhibited \"the classic tendencies of the demagogue.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guinn says Jones, who founded Peoples Temple church, would take current events and exaggerate them to create a sense of fear and urgency. He drew his followers to Guyana by convincing them that America was facing imminent threats of martial law, concentration camps and nuclear war.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After claims of abuse in Jonestown surfaced, California Rep. Leo Ryan came to Guyana to investigate. A number of Jonestown residents sought to return to the U.S. with Ryan, but others opened fire on the delegation, killing the congressman and four others. The mass suicide followed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guinn says the lessons of Jonestown still resonate today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Jim Jones epitomizes the worst that can happen when we let one person dictate what we hear [and] what we believe,\" he says. \"We can only change that if we learn from the past and try to apply it to today.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/523348069/523435966\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" title=\"NPR embedded audio player\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Interview Highlights\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the idealistic side of Jones' Peoples Temple church\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jim Jones originally organized Peoples Temple as a storefront church in Indianapolis in the late 1940s and early 1950s. It became one of the first major mixed-race churches in that part of the country, and Jones was instrumental in integrating Indianapolis, which had been one of the most segregated cities in America. They later moved to California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The purpose of Peoples Temple, as stated, was to feed the hungry, clothe the needy, ostensibly to try to raise up all the people who had been left out by society. Privately, within their organization, within their meetings where no outsiders were allowed, they also talked about what they were trying to do was set a \"socialist example,\" everyone treated the same, where race, money, nothing mattered. Human dignity was at a premium.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On how Jones tricked people but also appealed to their interest in social justice\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instinctively, he understood the things that he would need to do in front of a crowd, not just to get their attention, but to hold it and be remembered by them. ... He would [fake] being able to summon cancers from people's bodies, which were actually rotten chicken parts that he would have planted earlier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even then, as he starts to gain a following through these apparent miracles, he has a number of followers who are well aware [that] it's a trick. But they tell themselves Jim is doing what he has to do to bring people in for the greater good, because at the same time he's ... tricking people, he's also out there working for integration, for civil rights, for women's rights, and that is his argument: \"I need to do whatever is necessary to get people into the cause. After that we can all accomplish great things.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On how Jones targeted poor people to join his following\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The whole idea was that they would distribute these flyers, not in the well-to-do parts of town; they would go into the ghettos, into the public housing, where people have absolutely nothing. He understood that when you believe life is almost hopeless, that's when you're most ready to buy into some miracle that might lift you up. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The people who followed Jim Jones, many of them, [were] intelligent, socially conscious, ready to work hard to make the world better, and ultimately he sacrificed them to his own ego and his own belief in himself. That is unforgivable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On Jones orchestrating a mass suicide of his followers\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the end in November 1978, Jones' attitude towards his followers had changed. In the early stages of his ministry, when actually great things were often being accomplished, he thought of himself as the shepherd guarding his flock. More and more over the years, as his paranoia increased, as his drug use increased, he began to think of himself at war with almost everyone in the outside world — the United States government, all kinds of secret forces. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the end he saw himself as a general, and his followers were his troops, and ... Jones made the decision that there must be one last great gesture so that his name would live in history ... [and that it] would require the deaths of his followers. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If Leo Ryan, the congressman, had not come to Jonestown there still would've been some event at this point that would've triggered Jones' order to everyone to commit a \"revolutionary act,\" as he called it. He tried to convince them it wasn't suicide, it was something much grander than that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On trying to understand how 900 victims agreed to the suicide\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the things that's hardest for us to understand now, looking back almost 40 years, is how almost 900 people ... could have followed what appeared to be ridiculous orders from an obvious demagogue to kill themselves — but it's much more complicated than that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>First of all, not everybody in Jonestown that day did agree to die, to drink the poison. ... Out of over 900 human beings, 300 children, many of them infants, they have no choice. Their parents are making the choice for them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, we have another third, who are elderly people, who aren't in the best of health, who if they don't follow Jim Jones' orders are going to be left out in the deepest, densest, most dangerous jungle in the world. Their choices essentially are die quickly or die long, lingering deaths.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the middle you have the adults, the younger people, and even among them there's no unanimity. Some do believe that Jim Jones is God or something close to God and they worship him and if he says \"do this\" they're going to. Others don't believe Jones is a god, but they believe in their cause, and they have bought into his preaching that the rest of the world is coming in to get them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the day that the Guyanese troops came to Jonestown and saw what happened\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Guyanese troops that came in the next morning thought they were going to be facing armed revolutionaries. They guessed there might be 100 or more Jonestown men armed with rifles waiting for them, so they're coming through the jungle cautiously.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's the hot season in Guyana. There's been a torrential downpour the day before and steam is coming up from the floor of the jungle. It's almost like fog. And so they're coming into Jonestown in the perimeter expecting to be attacked any minute. They've got their guns up and ready, the fog, the steam is in front of them, they can hardly see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of a sudden they start to stumble and they think that maybe these revolutionaries placed logs on the ground to trip them up, and now they're going to start shooting from ambush — and then a couple of the soldiers look down and they can see through the fog and they start screaming, because there are bodies everywhere, almost more than they can count, and they're so horrified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Radio producer Sam Briger and web producers Bridget Bentz and Molly Seavy-Nesper contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2017 Fresh Air. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/\">Fresh Air\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Nearly+40+Years+Later%2C+Jonestown+Offers+A+Lesson+In+Demagoguery+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11403611/nearly-40-years-later-jonestown-offers-a-lesson-in-demagoguery","authors":["byline_news_11403611"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_223","news_8"],"tags":["news_160","news_938","news_17286"],"featImg":"news_11403682","label":"source_news_11403611"},"news_119515":{"type":"posts","id":"news_119515","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"119515","score":null,"sort":[1385595896000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"our-november-anniversaries-season-of-sorrow-and-hope","title":"Our November Anniversaries: Season of Sorrow and Hope","publishDate":1385595896,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/27/jfk-jonestown-moscone-milk-anniversaries/george-moscone-harvey-milk/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-119524\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-119524\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/George-Moscone-Harvey-Milk.jpg\" alt=\"Moscone-Milk Assassination\" width=\"640\" height=\"490\">\u003c/a>We've just marked the 50th anniversary of the John F. Kennedy assassination, a national wound that, amid \u003ca href=\"http://www.salon.com/2013/11/06/the_jfk_assassination_we_still_dont_know_what_happened/\" target=\"_blank\">unresolved questions\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2008/04/04/89365887/robert-kennedy-delivering-news-of-kings-death\" target=\"_blank\">ensuing political murders\u003c/a>, has never really healed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here in the Bay Area, November is our own season of dreadful anniversaries. Last week, we \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/18/jonestown-cult-massacre-remembered-35-years-later/\" target=\"_blank\">took note\u003c/a> of the 35th anniversary of the mass killings at Jonestown. Just mentioning that name can reawaken the horror of that 1978 episode: the tension at the People's Temple settlement in Guyana as Congressman Leo Ryan arrived to meet with leader Jim Jones and investigate conditions there; how some Jonestown residents menaced Ryan and the journalists who accompanied him; how Ryan and others in his party were shot and killed as they prepared to fly out of the jungle; and finally, how Jones led the more than 900 settlement residents in a death ritual.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">Remembrance of Moscone-Milk Assassinations\u003c/aside>\n\u003cdiv style=\"text-align: left !important; font-size: 12pt;\">Nov. 27, 2013\u003cbr>\n4:30 p.m.: Remembrance at City Hall\u003cbr>\n5:30 p.m.: March to the Castro\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>Jonestown overshadowed a political drama that was playing out in San Francisco at the time — the resignation of a freshman member of the Board of Supervisors, Dan White. A former firefighter and police officer from the Outer Mission, he'd been elected in the city's first district elections in November 1977. But just a year later, he resigned the position, only to change his mind and ask to get the job back. Mayor George Moscone at first seemed willing to reappoint White to the board, then decided not to. One of those who reportedly urged Moscone not to reappoint White was another first-year supervisor, Harvey Milk, a gay-rights crusader and the first openly gay man elected to public office in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thirty-five years ago today, I was taking someone over to the old Greyhound station on 7th Street, just south of Market. It was midday, and as we walked up Mission Street, an older man, a guy who looked like he might be living on the street, stopped us and shouted, \"They shot the mayor! They shot the mayor and the supervisor!\" The first thing I thought of was Jonestown. What the guy was saying sounded so crazy and scary, I told him to get away from me and continued on to Greyhound.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bus station had those old \"TV chairs\" — molded plastic chairs with miniature black-and-white televisions built in. If you fed the TV a quarter, you could watch for maybe 15 minutes. The first thing I noticed when we got to Greyhound was that a lot of those TVs were in use and almost everyone was watching the same thing, a report on the shooting of George Moscone and Harvey Milk. I don't completely trust my memory on this — I'm not sure this moment was shown on live TV or not — but I think I started watching just as Dianne Feinstein, the president of the Board of Supervisors, \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MnY59V0exw\" target=\"_blank\">announced\u003c/a> that the mayor and the supervisor had been killed and that Dan White was the suspect. People at the bus station gasped in disbelief, just as they did at City Hall, where Feinstein was making the announcement. That footage is still wrenching to watch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At that moment, the entire city seemed to be unhinged and crazy. And the story would become more incredible with White's \"diminished capacity\" defense based in part on his poor diet; his acquittal on murder charges (he was convicted of voluntary manslaughter and served just over five years in prison); the rage and riot that followed the verdict; and White's eventual \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/1985/10/22/us/dan-white-killer-of-san-francisco-mayor-a-suicide.html\" target=\"_blank\">suicide\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, something other than shock and grief emerged from the darkness of that day: a determination that Milk's legacy should live. And it has. In death, Milk's stature has grown to that of a globally recognized champion of human rights. In San Francisco decades later, one of Moscone's successors as mayor declared same-sex marriage legal, launching a movement that's seen the gay marriage become the law in 16 states and the District of Columbia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of my newsroom colleagues, Kat Snow, recalled earlier today that the determination to turn the tragedy of the Milk-Moscone murder into a movement goes back to the hours after the killings. The night of Nov. 27, 1978, thousands of people marched from the Castro to a vigil at San Francisco City Hall. One of those in attendance was singer Holly Near, who had composed a song in response to the killing, \"Singing for Our Lives.\" That song became an anthem for human rights campaigners worldwide. Below, Near performs the song with the San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus at the commemoration of the 30th anniversary of the assassinations. And here's one version of the lyrics (the video contains others):\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>We are a gentle angry people\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And we are singing, singing for our lives\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We are a land of many colors\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We are gay and straight together\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We are a peaceful loving people\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003ciframe src=\"//www.youtube.com/embed/LbXq0oU5osg\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Remembering the determination that followed one of the darkest moments in San Francisco history. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1469839965,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":842},"headData":{"title":"Our November Anniversaries: Season of Sorrow and Hope | KQED","description":"Remembering the determination that followed one of the darkest moments in San Francisco history. 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Kennedy assassination, a national wound that, amid \u003ca href=\"http://www.salon.com/2013/11/06/the_jfk_assassination_we_still_dont_know_what_happened/\" target=\"_blank\">unresolved questions\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2008/04/04/89365887/robert-kennedy-delivering-news-of-kings-death\" target=\"_blank\">ensuing political murders\u003c/a>, has never really healed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here in the Bay Area, November is our own season of dreadful anniversaries. Last week, we \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/18/jonestown-cult-massacre-remembered-35-years-later/\" target=\"_blank\">took note\u003c/a> of the 35th anniversary of the mass killings at Jonestown. Just mentioning that name can reawaken the horror of that 1978 episode: the tension at the People's Temple settlement in Guyana as Congressman Leo Ryan arrived to meet with leader Jim Jones and investigate conditions there; how some Jonestown residents menaced Ryan and the journalists who accompanied him; how Ryan and others in his party were shot and killed as they prepared to fly out of the jungle; and finally, how Jones led the more than 900 settlement residents in a death ritual.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">Remembrance of Moscone-Milk Assassinations\u003c/aside>\n\u003cdiv style=\"text-align: left !important; font-size: 12pt;\">Nov. 27, 2013\u003cbr>\n4:30 p.m.: Remembrance at City Hall\u003cbr>\n5:30 p.m.: March to the Castro\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>Jonestown overshadowed a political drama that was playing out in San Francisco at the time — the resignation of a freshman member of the Board of Supervisors, Dan White. A former firefighter and police officer from the Outer Mission, he'd been elected in the city's first district elections in November 1977. But just a year later, he resigned the position, only to change his mind and ask to get the job back. Mayor George Moscone at first seemed willing to reappoint White to the board, then decided not to. One of those who reportedly urged Moscone not to reappoint White was another first-year supervisor, Harvey Milk, a gay-rights crusader and the first openly gay man elected to public office in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thirty-five years ago today, I was taking someone over to the old Greyhound station on 7th Street, just south of Market. It was midday, and as we walked up Mission Street, an older man, a guy who looked like he might be living on the street, stopped us and shouted, \"They shot the mayor! They shot the mayor and the supervisor!\" The first thing I thought of was Jonestown. What the guy was saying sounded so crazy and scary, I told him to get away from me and continued on to Greyhound.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bus station had those old \"TV chairs\" — molded plastic chairs with miniature black-and-white televisions built in. If you fed the TV a quarter, you could watch for maybe 15 minutes. The first thing I noticed when we got to Greyhound was that a lot of those TVs were in use and almost everyone was watching the same thing, a report on the shooting of George Moscone and Harvey Milk. I don't completely trust my memory on this — I'm not sure this moment was shown on live TV or not — but I think I started watching just as Dianne Feinstein, the president of the Board of Supervisors, \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MnY59V0exw\" target=\"_blank\">announced\u003c/a> that the mayor and the supervisor had been killed and that Dan White was the suspect. People at the bus station gasped in disbelief, just as they did at City Hall, where Feinstein was making the announcement. That footage is still wrenching to watch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At that moment, the entire city seemed to be unhinged and crazy. And the story would become more incredible with White's \"diminished capacity\" defense based in part on his poor diet; his acquittal on murder charges (he was convicted of voluntary manslaughter and served just over five years in prison); the rage and riot that followed the verdict; and White's eventual \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/1985/10/22/us/dan-white-killer-of-san-francisco-mayor-a-suicide.html\" target=\"_blank\">suicide\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, something other than shock and grief emerged from the darkness of that day: a determination that Milk's legacy should live. And it has. In death, Milk's stature has grown to that of a globally recognized champion of human rights. In San Francisco decades later, one of Moscone's successors as mayor declared same-sex marriage legal, launching a movement that's seen the gay marriage become the law in 16 states and the District of Columbia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of my newsroom colleagues, Kat Snow, recalled earlier today that the determination to turn the tragedy of the Milk-Moscone murder into a movement goes back to the hours after the killings. The night of Nov. 27, 1978, thousands of people marched from the Castro to a vigil at San Francisco City Hall. One of those in attendance was singer Holly Near, who had composed a song in response to the killing, \"Singing for Our Lives.\" That song became an anthem for human rights campaigners worldwide. Below, Near performs the song with the San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus at the commemoration of the 30th anniversary of the assassinations. And here's one version of the lyrics (the video contains others):\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>We are a gentle angry people\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And we are singing, singing for our lives\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We are a land of many colors\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We are gay and straight together\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We are a peaceful loving people\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003ciframe src=\"//www.youtube.com/embed/LbXq0oU5osg\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/119515/our-november-anniversaries-season-of-sorrow-and-hope","authors":["222"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_274","news_1681","news_1682","news_938"],"featImg":"news_119524","label":"news_6944"},"news_118592":{"type":"posts","id":"news_118592","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"118592","score":null,"sort":[1384807283000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"relatives-remember-jonestown-35-years-after-the-killings","title":"Relatives Remember Jonestown, 35 Years After the Killings ","publishDate":1384807283,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_118609\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 594px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/18/jonestown-cult-massacre-remembered-35-years-later/jonestown/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-118609\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-118609\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/GettyImages_1145621.jpg\" alt=\"The scene at Jonestown after the Rev. Jim Jones led and forced followers into what he called 'revolutionary suicide.' More than 900 people died, including more than 300 children. (Tim Chapman/Getty Images)\" width=\"594\" height=\"374\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The scene at Jonestown after the Rev. Jim Jones led and forced followers into what he called 'revolutionary suicide.' More than 900 people died, including more than 300 children. (Tim Chapman/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It is perhaps the most notorious mass death in American history — a grisly scene remembered by one journalist at the time as an \"\u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OapPeL-69Ns\">orgy of death\u003c/a>.\" Today family, friends and well-wishers are paying tribute to more than 900 people who died in the Guyana compound of the San Francisco-based cult The Peoples Temple. That compound, Jonestown, was where cult leader Jim Jones made his last stand after ordering the murder of Peninsula Congressman Leo Ryan, who had come to Guyana to investigate conditions at the settlement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today's services took place at Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery, where a memorial wall bears the names of all those who died in what Jones termed a \"revolutionary suicide\" but what the outside world saw as mass murder. Jones is listed among the dead, an inclusion that some consider an outrage. Dr. Jynona Norwood lost 27 family members at Jonestown. She is leading an effort to get Jones' name off the memorial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What about the 305 innocent children?\" says Norwood. \"They do not have a fitting memorial in their final sacred resting place. They are not free from Jim Jones.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_118610\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/18/jonestown-cult-massacre-remembered-35-years-later/jonestown-memorial/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-118610\">\u003cimg class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-118610\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/jonestown-memorial-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"The mass grave of more than 400 Jonestown victims at Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery,. (Wikicommons) \" width=\"300\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The mass grave of more than 400 Jonestown victims at Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery. (Wikicommons) \u003ccite>(Suzie Racho/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The legacy of Jonestown lives on in other ways as well. Rep. \u003ca href=\"http://speier.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=172:storycorps-congresswoman-speier-remembers-the-jonestown-massacre&catid=2&Itemid=15\">Jackie Speier\u003c/a> was an aide to Ryan who made the trip to Jonestown and was shot five times. For her the legacy of Jonestown is not just the horror of its demise, but the example Ryan set.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He was an investigative representative,\" Speier told KQED back in 2008. \"He wanted to find things out firsthand, and he wasn't fearful. And I think those of us that serve (in Congress) now have got to be investigative in our work, and we can't be fearful.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Norwood says she has found forgiveness for the Jonestown massacre, but aspects of it still haunt her. She laments that no one realized at the time just how dangerous Jones was — at least, no one who was able to stop him. And she remembers the many family members she lost, including her mother, who went to Guyana in hopes of building a better life and seeing if the allegations about Jones were true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"From what I understand she tried to get off of the plane, and they would not let her,\" Norwood says. \"And then (Jones) had her beaten when she got there, and chained, because she rose up against him. So I'm thinking about how generations in my family and families around the nation were cut off behind this power-crazed, power-hungry megalomaniac.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And it brings tears to my eyes,\" Norwood says. \"They never had a chance with him.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's my conversation with the Rev. Norwood:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/120765101\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Minister who lost 27 relatives in mass killing talks about a wound that will not heal. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1384814104,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":12,"wordCount":501},"headData":{"title":"Relatives Remember Jonestown, 35 Years After the Killings | KQED","description":"Minister who lost 27 relatives in mass killing talks about a wound that will not heal. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"118592 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=118592","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/18/relatives-remember-jonestown-35-years-after-the-killings/","disqusTitle":"Relatives Remember Jonestown, 35 Years After the Killings ","customPermalink":"2013/11/18/jonestown-cult-massacre-remembered-35-years-later/","path":"/news/118592/relatives-remember-jonestown-35-years-after-the-killings","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_118609\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 594px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/18/jonestown-cult-massacre-remembered-35-years-later/jonestown/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-118609\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-118609\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/GettyImages_1145621.jpg\" alt=\"The scene at Jonestown after the Rev. Jim Jones led and forced followers into what he called 'revolutionary suicide.' More than 900 people died, including more than 300 children. (Tim Chapman/Getty Images)\" width=\"594\" height=\"374\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The scene at Jonestown after the Rev. Jim Jones led and forced followers into what he called 'revolutionary suicide.' More than 900 people died, including more than 300 children. (Tim Chapman/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It is perhaps the most notorious mass death in American history — a grisly scene remembered by one journalist at the time as an \"\u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OapPeL-69Ns\">orgy of death\u003c/a>.\" Today family, friends and well-wishers are paying tribute to more than 900 people who died in the Guyana compound of the San Francisco-based cult The Peoples Temple. That compound, Jonestown, was where cult leader Jim Jones made his last stand after ordering the murder of Peninsula Congressman Leo Ryan, who had come to Guyana to investigate conditions at the settlement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today's services took place at Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery, where a memorial wall bears the names of all those who died in what Jones termed a \"revolutionary suicide\" but what the outside world saw as mass murder. Jones is listed among the dead, an inclusion that some consider an outrage. Dr. Jynona Norwood lost 27 family members at Jonestown. She is leading an effort to get Jones' name off the memorial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What about the 305 innocent children?\" says Norwood. \"They do not have a fitting memorial in their final sacred resting place. They are not free from Jim Jones.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_118610\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/18/jonestown-cult-massacre-remembered-35-years-later/jonestown-memorial/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-118610\">\u003cimg class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-118610\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/jonestown-memorial-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"The mass grave of more than 400 Jonestown victims at Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery,. (Wikicommons) \" width=\"300\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The mass grave of more than 400 Jonestown victims at Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery. (Wikicommons) \u003ccite>(Suzie Racho/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The legacy of Jonestown lives on in other ways as well. Rep. \u003ca href=\"http://speier.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=172:storycorps-congresswoman-speier-remembers-the-jonestown-massacre&catid=2&Itemid=15\">Jackie Speier\u003c/a> was an aide to Ryan who made the trip to Jonestown and was shot five times. For her the legacy of Jonestown is not just the horror of its demise, but the example Ryan set.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He was an investigative representative,\" Speier told KQED back in 2008. \"He wanted to find things out firsthand, and he wasn't fearful. And I think those of us that serve (in Congress) now have got to be investigative in our work, and we can't be fearful.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Norwood says she has found forgiveness for the Jonestown massacre, but aspects of it still haunt her. She laments that no one realized at the time just how dangerous Jones was — at least, no one who was able to stop him. And she remembers the many family members she lost, including her mother, who went to Guyana in hopes of building a better life and seeing if the allegations about Jones were true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"From what I understand she tried to get off of the plane, and they would not let her,\" Norwood says. \"And then (Jones) had her beaten when she got there, and chained, because she rose up against him. So I'm thinking about how generations in my family and families around the nation were cut off behind this power-crazed, power-hungry megalomaniac.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And it brings tears to my eyes,\" Norwood says. \"They never had a chance with him.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's my conversation with the Rev. Norwood:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/120765101\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/118592/relatives-remember-jonestown-35-years-after-the-killings","authors":["233"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_940","news_938","news_5109","news_18"],"featImg":"news_118610","label":"news_6944"},"news_28917":{"type":"posts","id":"news_28917","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"28917","score":null,"sort":[1306452085000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"judge-rejects-attempt-to-block-jonestown-memorial","title":"Judge Rejects Attempt to Block Jonestown Memorial","publishDate":1306452085,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>From AP:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>A Northern California judge has denied a motion seeking to block further use of a newly completed memorial to the victims of the 1978 mass murder and suicide at \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown\">Jonestown\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ruling Thursday by Alameda County Superior Court Judge Robert McGuiness will allow Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery to host a planned dedicate ceremony at the site on Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jynona Norwood, a Los Angeles minister who lost 27 relatives at Jonestown, filed a lawsuit May 12 alleging that the cemetery violated an agreement with her for an alternative tribute to the victims. She objects to the new memorial's inclusion of Peoples Temple leader Jim Jones' name among the 917 others who died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his ruling, McGuiness said that denying access to the memorial would cause \"substantial harm\" to those who wish to gather there to honor the victims.\n\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>More from the \u003ca href=\"http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_18148169\">Oakland Tribune\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"http://www.baycitizen.org/courts/story/judge-jonestown-memorial-dedication-can/\">Bay Citizen\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jynona Norwood's \u003ca href=\"http://www.jones-town.org/\">Jonestown Memorial site\u003c/a> here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1306452376,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":9,"wordCount":157},"headData":{"title":"Judge Rejects Attempt to Block Jonestown Memorial | KQED","description":"From AP: A Northern California judge has denied a motion seeking to block further use of a newly completed memorial to the victims of the 1978 mass murder and suicide at Jonestown. The ruling Thursday by Alameda County Superior Court Judge Robert McGuiness will allow Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery to host a planned dedicate ceremony at","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"28917 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=28917","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2011/05/26/judge-rejects-attempt-to-block-jonestown-memorial/","disqusTitle":"Judge Rejects Attempt to Block Jonestown Memorial","path":"/news/28917/judge-rejects-attempt-to-block-jonestown-memorial","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>From AP:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>A Northern California judge has denied a motion seeking to block further use of a newly completed memorial to the victims of the 1978 mass murder and suicide at \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown\">Jonestown\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ruling Thursday by Alameda County Superior Court Judge Robert McGuiness will allow Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery to host a planned dedicate ceremony at the site on Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jynona Norwood, a Los Angeles minister who lost 27 relatives at Jonestown, filed a lawsuit May 12 alleging that the cemetery violated an agreement with her for an alternative tribute to the victims. She objects to the new memorial's inclusion of Peoples Temple leader Jim Jones' name among the 917 others who died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his ruling, McGuiness said that denying access to the memorial would cause \"substantial harm\" to those who wish to gather there to honor the victims.\n\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>More from the \u003ca href=\"http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_18148169\">Oakland Tribune\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"http://www.baycitizen.org/courts/story/judge-jonestown-memorial-dedication-can/\">Bay Citizen\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jynona Norwood's \u003ca href=\"http://www.jones-town.org/\">Jonestown Memorial site\u003c/a> here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/28917/judge-rejects-attempt-to-block-jonestown-memorial","authors":["80"],"programs":["news_6944"],"tags":["news_938","news_18"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_27186":{"type":"posts","id":"news_27186","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"27186","score":null,"sort":[1305284458000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"morning-splash-jonestown-memorial-can-go-forward-sharks-win-gop-budget-plan","title":"Morning Splash: Jonestown Memorial Can Go Forward; Sharks Win; GOP Delivers Budget Plan","publishDate":1305284458,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/13/BAER1JFM1N.DTL\">Jonestown memorial can go forward, judge rules\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Cemetery crews can finish installing a Jonestown memorial despite emotional pleas from a rival survivors' group that the memorial not include the name of Jim Jones, a judge ruled late Thursday. Alameda County Superior Court Judge Robert McGuiness denied the Guyana Tribute Foundation's request for a temporary restraining order against Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland, allowing construction to move forward on the memorial.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/sharks/ci_18054168\">Guts and Glory: San Jose Sharks Win!\u003c/a> (San Jose Mercury News)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>The Sharks took a big step toward shedding their reputation as playoff disappointments Thursday night. And so did Patrick Marleau. With Marleau scoring what turned out to be the deciding goal in an intense and tightly-contested seven-game series, San Jose avoided a spot in the NHL hall of shame by beating the Detroit Red Wings 3-2 and advancing to the Western Conference finals for a second consecutive year.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sacbee.com/2011/05/13/3623803/gop-state-budget-plan-arrives.html\">GOP state budget plan arrives -- and is blasted as gimmicky\u003c/a> (Sacramento Bee)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Assembly Republicans issued a state deficit solution for the first time Thursday, relying on more spending cuts, fund shifts and a new spike in state tax revenues to bridge a $15.4 billion shortfall. One of the largest reductions would hit state workers, a $1.1 billion cut equal to roughly 10 percent of compensation. Republicans suggested the state could save that money through layoffs or health care premium hikes. Coming four days before Gov. Jerry Brown's May budget revision, the GOP sought to pre-empt Brown's expected call for additional taxes to pay for schools and law enforcement.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_18049836\">SJSU shooting: 3 who died ID'd as student, 25; her husband, 54; another student, 26\u003c/a> (San Jose Mercury News)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>They were barely three weeks shy of graduating with business degrees from San Jose State. Cindy Caliguiran and Kyle Williams were study partners, friends say, nothing more. She probably just offered him a ride home after an evening class on campus. Waiting with a gun on the fifth floor of the campus garage was her husband -- a Silicon Valley engineer more than twice her age. A classmate heard the screams -- then gunfire -- reverberate through the concrete parking structure.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/13/BAJL1JF37G.DTL\">Sierra Club wants landmark climate law altered\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>California's quest to create the world's first clean energy economy was again under fire this week when the Sierra Club urged Gov. Jerry Brown to drastically alter key elements of the much criticized climate protection law. The state's largest environmental group urged the governor in a May 9 letter to re-evaluate and revise proposed \"cap-and-trade\" business incentives, particularly the rules that would allow companies to offset their pollution by purchasing credits from clean businesses outside the state and country.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_18053032\">License backlog now stands at zero, DMV declares\u003c/a> (Sacramento Bee)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>California motor vehicle officials say they finally have fixed a series of factory problems that caused some drivers to wait months for new licenses. The backlog, which at one point topped 800,000 cards and led to four-month waits, is now down to zero, and drivers are receiving cards within three to four weeks of renewing, Department of Motor Vehicle officials said...Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, whose budget subcommittee oversees the DMV, said he wants the agency to pursue extra payments from the contractor that makes the cards for costs to the state and inconvenience to drivers. In a hearing last week, Simitian threatened to send letters to motor vehicle departments in other states warning them about California's problems with the contractor, L-1 Identity Solutions.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/samesexmarriage/ci_18050843\">Attorney General, San Francisco officials defend Proposition 8 ruling\u003c/a> (San Jose Mercury News)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Attorney General Kamala Harris and San Francisco city officials moved Thursday to derail a bid by backers of Proposition 8 to wipe out last year's ruling striking down the law because of the trial judge's same-sex relationship, calling it \"tired,\" \"meritless\" and motivated by bias against gays. In court papers, Harris threw California's weight against Proposition 8 sponsors, who recently argued that Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker should have removed himself from the legal battle over same-sex marriage because he has been in a long-term same-sex relationship. Walker last summer found that California's ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, but Proposition 8 backers have moved to set that decision aside.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/13/BA771JF047.DTL\">Transit agency goes off rails on overtime\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>The Municipal Transportation Agency is on pace to bust its overtime budget by $18 million this year, a 55 percent cost overrun described as out of control by members of the Board of Supervisors Government Audit & Oversight Committee. \"This is a big deal. This is $18 million this year alone,\" said Supervisor Mark Farrell. But Muni officials defended the spending.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2011/05/13/MNQG1JFI7V.DTL\">HIV: Drugs recommended immediately to stop spread\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>People who start treatment soon after being diagnosed with HIV are far less likely to pass the virus on to their sexual partners than those who wait for their immune system to deteriorate before starting drug therapy, according to a large international study released Thursday. Early treatment with antiviral drugs cut transmission rates of HIV by 96 percent, the study found. The results were so promising that researchers ended the trial four years early so that all participants could have the option of going on the antiviral therapy.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_18051908?nclick_check=1\">Facebook's stealth attack on Google\u003c/a> (San Jose Mercury News)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>In an unfolding tale of Silicon Valley skulduggery, Facebook on Thursday fessed up to hiring a top-drawer PR firm to bash rival Google (GOOG) by planting negative stories in newspapers and across the blogosphere. The social networking giant's admission that it had hired Burson-Marsteller to rustle up reporters and bloggers to attack the search giant for violating Facebook users' privacy was just the first of several shoes to drop.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/13/MNSB1JFE3K.DTL\">Cop ran Pleasant Hill brothel, co-defendant says\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Concord private investigator at the center of a law enforcement scandal admits he helped run a house of prostitution in Pleasant Hill, but says the former commander of a Contra Costa County anti-drug task force was the architect of the operation and shut down competing brothels, the investigator's attorney said Thursday. Christopher Butler, 49, leased office space for a massage parlor on Gregory Lane in Pleasant Hill beginning in summer 2009 at the request of then-state narcotics agent Norman Wielsch, 50, said Butler's attorney, William Gagen.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_18036429\">Oakland Unified becomes a cautionary tale for state takeovers in California\u003c/a> (Oakland Tribune)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Eight years after the Oakland school district's financial meltdown and state takeover, the local school board can't seem to shake past mistakes -- including some made by the state agency tasked with restoring its fiscal health. In addition to its debt of $74 million, the school district until recently faced a $22 million fine for accounting errors made on the state's watch, according to figures from the state controller's office.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/13/BALN1JFI64.DTL\">Pesticide bombing of Farallones mice spurs debate\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Federal wildlife regulators are considering carpet-bombing the Farallon Islands next fall with potent pesticides aimed at eradicating hordes of house mice, an invasive population grown so large officials say it has radically altered the islands' ecology and now threatens rare seabirds. But animal welfare groups contend the lethal chemicals could ruin the prized sanctuary and drift throughout the food web, killing not just the rodents, but birds, reptiles and even microscopic crustaceans.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_18052664\">Durbin knocked out of 'Idol'; Saturday plans canceled\u003c/a> (Santa Cruz Sentinel)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>A day after singing Journey's perpetually popular ode to optimism \"Don't Stop Believin',\" enough would-be voters on \"American Idol\" did in fact stop believing in Durbin's improbable ride to \"Idol stardom\" on Thursday. In a shocking conclusion to Durbin's 11-week stint showing his considerable singing talents to a national audience on \"Idol,\" he was eliminated from the competition by receiving the lowest vote total of the final four contestants.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.contracostatimes.com/contra-costa-county/ci_18052459?nclick_check=1\">Indian-American population is fastest-growing minority group\u003c/a> (Contra Costa Times)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>...Among Asian groups, none grew more rapidly than Indian-Americans in the last decade, according to 2010 census figures released Thursday. They have surpassed Filipinos as the second-largest Asian group in the nation after the Chinese, and in the Bay Area they are expanding far beyond the established immigrant gateways of the Silicon Valley. The numbers of Indian-Americans in the East Bay counties of Alameda and Contra Costa jumped from about 55,000 to 95,000 in a mere decade, a growth of 74 percent. 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Alameda County Superior Court Judge Robert McGuiness denied the Guyana Tribute Foundation's request for a temporary restraining order against Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland, allowing construction to move forward on the memorial.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/sharks/ci_18054168\">Guts and Glory: San Jose Sharks Win!\u003c/a> (San Jose Mercury News)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>The Sharks took a big step toward shedding their reputation as playoff disappointments Thursday night. And so did Patrick Marleau. With Marleau scoring what turned out to be the deciding goal in an intense and tightly-contested seven-game series, San Jose avoided a spot in the NHL hall of shame by beating the Detroit Red Wings 3-2 and advancing to the Western Conference finals for a second consecutive year.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sacbee.com/2011/05/13/3623803/gop-state-budget-plan-arrives.html\">GOP state budget plan arrives -- and is blasted as gimmicky\u003c/a> (Sacramento Bee)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Assembly Republicans issued a state deficit solution for the first time Thursday, relying on more spending cuts, fund shifts and a new spike in state tax revenues to bridge a $15.4 billion shortfall. One of the largest reductions would hit state workers, a $1.1 billion cut equal to roughly 10 percent of compensation. Republicans suggested the state could save that money through layoffs or health care premium hikes. Coming four days before Gov. 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A classmate heard the screams -- then gunfire -- reverberate through the concrete parking structure.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/13/BAJL1JF37G.DTL\">Sierra Club wants landmark climate law altered\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>California's quest to create the world's first clean energy economy was again under fire this week when the Sierra Club urged Gov. Jerry Brown to drastically alter key elements of the much criticized climate protection law. The state's largest environmental group urged the governor in a May 9 letter to re-evaluate and revise proposed \"cap-and-trade\" business incentives, particularly the rules that would allow companies to offset their pollution by purchasing credits from clean businesses outside the state and country.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_18053032\">License backlog now stands at zero, DMV declares\u003c/a> (Sacramento Bee)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>California motor vehicle officials say they finally have fixed a series of factory problems that caused some drivers to wait months for new licenses. The backlog, which at one point topped 800,000 cards and led to four-month waits, is now down to zero, and drivers are receiving cards within three to four weeks of renewing, Department of Motor Vehicle officials said...Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, whose budget subcommittee oversees the DMV, said he wants the agency to pursue extra payments from the contractor that makes the cards for costs to the state and inconvenience to drivers. In a hearing last week, Simitian threatened to send letters to motor vehicle departments in other states warning them about California's problems with the contractor, L-1 Identity Solutions.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/samesexmarriage/ci_18050843\">Attorney General, San Francisco officials defend Proposition 8 ruling\u003c/a> (San Jose Mercury News)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Attorney General Kamala Harris and San Francisco city officials moved Thursday to derail a bid by backers of Proposition 8 to wipe out last year's ruling striking down the law because of the trial judge's same-sex relationship, calling it \"tired,\" \"meritless\" and motivated by bias against gays. In court papers, Harris threw California's weight against Proposition 8 sponsors, who recently argued that Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker should have removed himself from the legal battle over same-sex marriage because he has been in a long-term same-sex relationship. Walker last summer found that California's ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, but Proposition 8 backers have moved to set that decision aside.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/13/BA771JF047.DTL\">Transit agency goes off rails on overtime\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>The Municipal Transportation Agency is on pace to bust its overtime budget by $18 million this year, a 55 percent cost overrun described as out of control by members of the Board of Supervisors Government Audit & Oversight Committee. \"This is a big deal. This is $18 million this year alone,\" said Supervisor Mark Farrell. But Muni officials defended the spending.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2011/05/13/MNQG1JFI7V.DTL\">HIV: Drugs recommended immediately to stop spread\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>People who start treatment soon after being diagnosed with HIV are far less likely to pass the virus on to their sexual partners than those who wait for their immune system to deteriorate before starting drug therapy, according to a large international study released Thursday. Early treatment with antiviral drugs cut transmission rates of HIV by 96 percent, the study found. The results were so promising that researchers ended the trial four years early so that all participants could have the option of going on the antiviral therapy.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_18051908?nclick_check=1\">Facebook's stealth attack on Google\u003c/a> (San Jose Mercury News)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>In an unfolding tale of Silicon Valley skulduggery, Facebook on Thursday fessed up to hiring a top-drawer PR firm to bash rival Google (GOOG) by planting negative stories in newspapers and across the blogosphere. The social networking giant's admission that it had hired Burson-Marsteller to rustle up reporters and bloggers to attack the search giant for violating Facebook users' privacy was just the first of several shoes to drop.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/13/MNSB1JFE3K.DTL\">Cop ran Pleasant Hill brothel, co-defendant says\u003c/a> (SF Chronicle)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Concord private investigator at the center of a law enforcement scandal admits he helped run a house of prostitution in Pleasant Hill, but says the former commander of a Contra Costa County anti-drug task force was the architect of the operation and shut down competing brothels, the investigator's attorney said Thursday. Christopher Butler, 49, leased office space for a massage parlor on Gregory Lane in Pleasant Hill beginning in summer 2009 at the request of then-state narcotics agent Norman Wielsch, 50, said Butler's attorney, William Gagen.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c/li>\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_18036429\">Oakland Unified becomes a cautionary tale for state takeovers in California\u003c/a> (Oakland Tribune)\u003cbr>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Eight years after the Oakland school district's financial meltdown and state takeover, the local school board can't seem to shake past mistakes -- including some made by the state agency tasked with restoring its fiscal health. 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The numbers of Indian-Americans in the East Bay counties of Alameda and Contra Costa jumped from about 55,000 to 95,000 in a mere decade, a growth of 74 percent. 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