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In the press release, Newsom accused the companies of spreading disinformation on climate change in order to protect profits over the last 50 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Exxon, Shell, Chevron, ConocoPhillips and BP — along with the largest domestic oil industry lobby group, American Petroleum Institute — are all named as defendants in the suit, which was filed in San Francisco Superior Court on Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The announcement Saturday is the latest in \u003ca href=\"https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/us-cities-states-sue-big-oil-climate-change-lawsuits/\">a slew of lawsuits brought against the oil industry in states across the U.S.\u003c/a>, including similar suits in Colorado, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and even Puerto Rico.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Gov. Gavin Newsom\"]‘For more than 50 years, Big Oil has been lying to us — covering up the fact that they’ve long known how dangerous the fossil fuels they produce are for our planet.’[/pullquote]Michael Wara, who is a senior research scholar at the Woods Institute for the Environment and director of the Climate and Energy Policy Program at Stanford Law School, said it was unsurprising that the suit was filed in state court, which he says is generally “more favorable on issues of climate litigation” towards the plaintiffs than federal courts have been. He expects the oil companies will likely try to move the case to a federal court on some of the claims, where the oil companies would expect to have a more favorable outcome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think this is kind of an acceleration and amplification of the broader attempts to hold oil companies to account for their deceptive marketing and advocacy campaigns around climate change,” said Wara in an interview with KQED. “And the more that we learn about that, the more it becomes apparent that they have been deceptive.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California is attempting to hold the oil companies responsible for what it says are their impacts on the environment, human health and Californians’ livelihoods. The state also seeks to prohibit the companies from “engaging in further pollution and destruction” of California communities and natural resources, and insists that they they pay financial penalties for “lying to the public” and ordered to “immediately stop … ongoing efforts to deceive or misinform about their catastrophic impacts.” The state also seeks punitive damages “to punish these companies for their misconduct.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For more than 50 years, Big Oil has been lying to us — covering up the fact that they’ve long known how dangerous the fossil fuels they produce are for our planet,” Gov. Newsom said in the statement. “It has been decades of damage and deception. Wildfires wiping out entire communities, toxic smoke clogging our air, deadly heat waves, record-breaking droughts parching our wells. California taxpayers shouldn’t have to foot the bill. California is taking action to hold big polluters accountable.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the statement, Attorney General Bonta said “Enough is enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With our lawsuit, California becomes the largest geographic area and the largest economy to take these giant oil companies to court,” he said. “From extreme heat to drought and water shortages, the climate crisis they have caused is undeniable. It is time they pay to abate the harm they have caused.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>News of the lawsuit triggered a flurry of statements from environmental groups welcoming the news.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With this historic lawsuit, Gov. Newsom and Attorney General Bonta are providing the climate leadership the world so desperately needs,” said Kassie Siegel, director of the Center for Biological Diversity’s Climate Law Institute, in a statement released Saturday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11960699,news_11923242,news_11957321\"]Richard Wiles, president of the Center for Climate Integrity, released a statement saying, “Whether it’s fires, droughts, extreme heat, or sea-level rise, Californians have been living in a climate emergency caused by the fossil fuel industry, and now the state is taking decisive action to make those polluters pay.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jamie Henn, founder of Fossil Free Media, said “Climate change isn’t just a tragedy, it’s a crime. 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Its local courts have no constructive or constitutionally permissible role in crafting global energy policy,” Chevron said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an email statement on Sunday morning, a Shell spokesperson wrote: “The Shell Group’s position on climate change has been a matter of public record for decades. We agree that action is needed now on climate change, and we fully support the need for society to transition to a lower-carbon future. 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Climate policy is for Congress to debate and decide, not the court system.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Patrick Parenteau, a professor of law emeritus at Vermont Law & Graduate School told KQED that in order to win the case, California needs to prove that the alleged lies caused real damage. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They have to connect the lie to the damage, so they have to say if you hadn’t lied we would be in a better position than we are today,” he said. “That’s where the cases are going to be decided.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parenteau said that “everybody knows that these cases aren’t going to solve climate change,” but “the fundamental rule of environmental law is [that the] polluter pays. In the end, that’s all these cases are about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Lakshmi Sarah, Kevin Stark, Azul Dahlstrom Eckman and Attila Pelit contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Gov. 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As we supply vital energy the world needs today, we continue to reduce our emissions and help customers reduce theirs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The email also added: “We do not believe the courtroom is the right venue to address climate change, but that smart policy from government and action from all sectors is the appropriate way to reach solutions and drive progress.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scott Lauermann, media relations manager for the American Petroleum Institute, told KQED in a statement that “This ongoing, coordinated campaign to wage meritless, politicized lawsuits against a foundational American industry and its workers is nothing more than a distraction from important national conversations and an enormous waste of California taxpayer resources. Climate policy is for Congress to debate and decide, not the court system.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Patrick Parenteau, a professor of law emeritus at Vermont Law & Graduate School told KQED that in order to win the case, California needs to prove that the alleged lies caused real damage. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They have to connect the lie to the damage, so they have to say if you hadn’t lied we would be in a better position than we are today,” he said. “That’s where the cases are going to be decided.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parenteau said that “everybody knows that these cases aren’t going to solve climate change,” but “the fundamental rule of environmental law is [that the] polluter pays. In the end, that’s all these cases are about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Lakshmi Sarah, Kevin Stark, Azul Dahlstrom Eckman and Attila Pelit contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11961542/it-is-time-they-pay-california-sues-big-oil-over-decades-of-damage-and-deception","authors":["236"],"categories":["news_19906","news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_32754","news_33209","news_3844","news_424","news_255","news_33211","news_3804","news_27626","news_25015","news_2920","news_33210"],"featImg":"news_11961552","label":"news"},"news_11296825":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11296825","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11296825","score":null,"sort":[1485991577000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"trump-gets-his-man-at-the-state-department","title":"Trump Gets His Man at the State Department","publishDate":1485991577,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>President Trump has gotten his man at the State Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rex Tillerson was approved by a 56-43 vote Wednesday in the Senate. Four senators who caucus with the Democrats crossed the aisle and joined all of the Republicans in voting for Tillerson. They were Democrats Mark Warner of Virginia, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, as well as independent Angus King of Maine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson, the former head of Exxon Mobil — the world's largest and most powerful oil company — will now guide American foreign policy and be tasked with enacting Trump's world view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That world view, however, isn't entirely clear. Trump has expressed nationalistic and protectionist views and even isolationist tendencies, but he has also said the U.S. needs to do more about ISIS. He has promised to \"bomb the s*** out of them\" and suggested it \u003ca href=\"http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/03/10/gop-debate-12-isis-va/81627892/\">could potentially take 30,000\u003c/a> troops to defeat them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"jwqUrI9fE2J8t6xoHQCYNWIbq8TONRXG\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to his \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/01/27/511861645/trumps-immigration-freeze-omits-those-linked-to-deadly-attacks-in-u-s\">controversial travel ban \u003c/a>instituted in the first days of his presidency, Trump has ordered the U.S. out of trade deals, threatened import tariffs with America's adversaries (China) and allies (Mexico), questioned the importance of NATO, praised Russian President Vladimir Putin, said he thinks torture works and, during the campaign, floated the idea (that he \u003ca href=\"http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/nov/14/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrongly-tweets-he-never-said-more-cou/\">later seemed to walk back\u003c/a>) that perhaps more countries should have nuclear weapons to defend themselves without help from the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson will be tasked with defending the United States under Trump around the globe, while walking the line when he disagrees. Tillerson faced tough questioning from Republicans and was almost derailed because of his relationship with Putin. But Tillerson talked tough in those hearings about Russia and, unlike Trump, said he fully believes Russia was responsible for the hacks and leaks of the Democratic emails during the presidential campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson, who has no diplomatic experience aside from his myriad international business ties as Exxon Mobil's chief, will be tasked with overseeing the State Department bureaucracy. He is not well-known in the State Department, but those who have briefed him are sounding fairly upbeat about his management style. As CEO of Exxon Mobil, he oversaw a vast company with employees working in dozens of countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The difference is that Exxon Mobil has one goal: drilling for oil and making money for shareholders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/511851709/511851710\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" title=\"NPR embedded audio player\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His job at the State Department may be especially complicated by apparent unrest in the ranks. NPR has reported that some 900 State Department officials \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/01/26/511851709/career-diplomats-leave-state-department-as-trump-presidency-begins\">signed a letter \u003c/a>that went viral within the agency decrying Trump's visa and refugee ban as not making America safer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the White House isn't making the task of internal diplomacy any easier for Tillerson. White House spokesman Sean Spicer on Tuesday urged American diplomats to \"get with the program\" or go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But dissent is ingrained in State Department culture. In fact, the American Foreign Service Association, the professional association, \u003ca href=\"http://www.afsa.org/constructive-dissent-awards\">gives awards every year for it\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The State Department's manual says there can be no retribution for employees who use the dissent channel, and some in Congress concerned about Spicer's comments are now looking into ways to codify those protections.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"XEz0ChQxpUCkwX81sX1ga7j78oebjk2B\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump, though, doesn't exactly welcome dissent. While the new president is known for surrounding himself with differing factions — and even appeared to encourage his Cabinet nominees to have different points of view in their confirmation hearings — he also fired Acting Attorney General Sally Yates, an Obama holdover at the Justice Department, for speaking out against and refusing to defend the travel ban. And he said he has a \"running war with the media.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So much of the media seems to be the opposition party,\" Trump said Wednesday, echoing his chief strategist Steve Bannon. He added, \"They're very dishonest people.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the State Department, Tillerson will be hearing from diplomats who are worried about where the Trump administration is heading and whether he and Trump will overlook human rights abuses in countries where Americans want to do business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/512799958/512799959\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" title=\"NPR embedded audio player\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, the mood in the State Department is uneasy. The Trump administration nudged out several professional diplomats even before naming anyone to replace them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One example is Tom Countryman, a career foreign service officer who was acting undersecretary for arms control. He was on \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/02/01/512799958/outgoing-state-department-official-urges-colleagues-to-stay-and-serve\">NPR's Morning Edition\u003c/a> Wednesday, where he echoed a very powerful retirement speech he gave Tuesday to the State Department. He noted that State employees proudly serve in both Republican and Democratic administrations and implied they are feeling sidelined now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We still have a duty,\" he told the State employees. \"You have a duty — to stay and give your best professional guidance, with loyalty, to the new administration, because a foreign policy without professionals is — by definition — an amateur foreign policy. You will help to frame and make the choices. Because that is what we do. Our work is little understood by our fellow Americans, a fact that is sometimes exploited for political purpose. When I have the opportunity to speak to audiences across this amazing land, I explain, 'We do not have a Department of State, we do not have a foreign policy, because we love foreigners. We do it because we love Americans.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also said something that directly relates to Trump (and perhaps even Tillerson). Countryman drew a distinction between business and diplomacy, and he seemed to dispute Trump's foundational view of America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Business made America great, as it always has been,\" Countryman said, \"and business leaders are among our most important partners. But let's be clear: Despite the similarities — a dog is not a cat; baseball is not football; and diplomacy is not a business. Human rights are not a business. And democracy is, most assuredly, not a business.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added, \"We want Americans to prosper, to sell the world's best food and the world's best products everywhere in the world. We want Americans to be protected and safe when they are abroad, whether they are missionaries, tourists, students, businessmen or (for those of you who have done consular work) the occasional false Messiah.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/\" target=\"_blank\">NPR.org\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Rex Tillerson, the former oil company CEO, will now head America's foreign policy, as skeptical diplomats wait for what's next.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1485993384,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":28,"wordCount":1041},"headData":{"title":"Trump Gets His Man at the State Department | KQED","description":"Rex Tillerson, the former oil company CEO, will now head America's foreign policy, as skeptical diplomats wait for what's next.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11296825 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11296825","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/02/01/trump-gets-his-man-at-the-state-department/","disqusTitle":"Trump Gets His Man at the State Department","source":"NPR","sourceUrl":"http://www.npr.org/","nprImageCredit":"Saul Loeb","nprByline":"Michele Kelemen","nprImageAgency":"AFP/Getty Images","nprStoryId":"512856220","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=512856220&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"http://www.npr.org/2017/02/01/512856220/trump-gets-his-man-at-the-state-department?ft=nprml&f=512856220","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Wed, 01 Feb 2017 17:07:00 -0500","nprStoryDate":"Wed, 01 Feb 2017 15:22:00 -0500","nprLastModifiedDate":"Wed, 01 Feb 2017 17:07:39 -0500","path":"/news/11296825/trump-gets-his-man-at-the-state-department","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>President Trump has gotten his man at the State Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rex Tillerson was approved by a 56-43 vote Wednesday in the Senate. Four senators who caucus with the Democrats crossed the aisle and joined all of the Republicans in voting for Tillerson. They were Democrats Mark Warner of Virginia, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, as well as independent Angus King of Maine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson, the former head of Exxon Mobil — the world's largest and most powerful oil company — will now guide American foreign policy and be tasked with enacting Trump's world view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That world view, however, isn't entirely clear. Trump has expressed nationalistic and protectionist views and even isolationist tendencies, but he has also said the U.S. needs to do more about ISIS. He has promised to \"bomb the s*** out of them\" and suggested it \u003ca href=\"http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/03/10/gop-debate-12-isis-va/81627892/\">could potentially take 30,000\u003c/a> troops to defeat them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to his \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/01/27/511861645/trumps-immigration-freeze-omits-those-linked-to-deadly-attacks-in-u-s\">controversial travel ban \u003c/a>instituted in the first days of his presidency, Trump has ordered the U.S. out of trade deals, threatened import tariffs with America's adversaries (China) and allies (Mexico), questioned the importance of NATO, praised Russian President Vladimir Putin, said he thinks torture works and, during the campaign, floated the idea (that he \u003ca href=\"http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/nov/14/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrongly-tweets-he-never-said-more-cou/\">later seemed to walk back\u003c/a>) that perhaps more countries should have nuclear weapons to defend themselves without help from the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson will be tasked with defending the United States under Trump around the globe, while walking the line when he disagrees. Tillerson faced tough questioning from Republicans and was almost derailed because of his relationship with Putin. But Tillerson talked tough in those hearings about Russia and, unlike Trump, said he fully believes Russia was responsible for the hacks and leaks of the Democratic emails during the presidential campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson, who has no diplomatic experience aside from his myriad international business ties as Exxon Mobil's chief, will be tasked with overseeing the State Department bureaucracy. He is not well-known in the State Department, but those who have briefed him are sounding fairly upbeat about his management style. As CEO of Exxon Mobil, he oversaw a vast company with employees working in dozens of countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The difference is that Exxon Mobil has one goal: drilling for oil and making money for shareholders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/511851709/511851710\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" title=\"NPR embedded audio player\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His job at the State Department may be especially complicated by apparent unrest in the ranks. NPR has reported that some 900 State Department officials \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/01/26/511851709/career-diplomats-leave-state-department-as-trump-presidency-begins\">signed a letter \u003c/a>that went viral within the agency decrying Trump's visa and refugee ban as not making America safer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the White House isn't making the task of internal diplomacy any easier for Tillerson. White House spokesman Sean Spicer on Tuesday urged American diplomats to \"get with the program\" or go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But dissent is ingrained in State Department culture. In fact, the American Foreign Service Association, the professional association, \u003ca href=\"http://www.afsa.org/constructive-dissent-awards\">gives awards every year for it\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The State Department's manual says there can be no retribution for employees who use the dissent channel, and some in Congress concerned about Spicer's comments are now looking into ways to codify those protections.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump, though, doesn't exactly welcome dissent. While the new president is known for surrounding himself with differing factions — and even appeared to encourage his Cabinet nominees to have different points of view in their confirmation hearings — he also fired Acting Attorney General Sally Yates, an Obama holdover at the Justice Department, for speaking out against and refusing to defend the travel ban. And he said he has a \"running war with the media.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So much of the media seems to be the opposition party,\" Trump said Wednesday, echoing his chief strategist Steve Bannon. He added, \"They're very dishonest people.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the State Department, Tillerson will be hearing from diplomats who are worried about where the Trump administration is heading and whether he and Trump will overlook human rights abuses in countries where Americans want to do business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/512799958/512799959\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" title=\"NPR embedded audio player\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, the mood in the State Department is uneasy. The Trump administration nudged out several professional diplomats even before naming anyone to replace them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One example is Tom Countryman, a career foreign service officer who was acting undersecretary for arms control. He was on \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/02/01/512799958/outgoing-state-department-official-urges-colleagues-to-stay-and-serve\">NPR's Morning Edition\u003c/a> Wednesday, where he echoed a very powerful retirement speech he gave Tuesday to the State Department. He noted that State employees proudly serve in both Republican and Democratic administrations and implied they are feeling sidelined now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We still have a duty,\" he told the State employees. \"You have a duty — to stay and give your best professional guidance, with loyalty, to the new administration, because a foreign policy without professionals is — by definition — an amateur foreign policy. You will help to frame and make the choices. Because that is what we do. Our work is little understood by our fellow Americans, a fact that is sometimes exploited for political purpose. When I have the opportunity to speak to audiences across this amazing land, I explain, 'We do not have a Department of State, we do not have a foreign policy, because we love foreigners. We do it because we love Americans.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also said something that directly relates to Trump (and perhaps even Tillerson). Countryman drew a distinction between business and diplomacy, and he seemed to dispute Trump's foundational view of America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Business made America great, as it always has been,\" Countryman said, \"and business leaders are among our most important partners. But let's be clear: Despite the similarities — a dog is not a cat; baseball is not football; and diplomacy is not a business. Human rights are not a business. And democracy is, most assuredly, not a business.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added, \"We want Americans to prosper, to sell the world's best food and the world's best products everywhere in the world. We want Americans to be protected and safe when they are abroad, whether they are missionaries, tourists, students, businessmen or (for those of you who have done consular work) the occasional false Messiah.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/\" target=\"_blank\">NPR.org\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11296825/trump-gets-his-man-at-the-state-department","authors":["byline_news_11296825"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_1323","news_3804","news_3111","news_20285","news_17286"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11296826","label":"source_news_11296825"},"news_11218423":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11218423","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11218423","score":null,"sort":[1481656628000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-we-know-about-rex-tillerson-trumps-pick-for-secretary-of-state","title":"What We Know About Rex Tillerson, Trump's Pick for Secretary of State","publishDate":1481656628,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>President-elect Donald Trump, in a statement early this morning, announced his intention to nominate ExxonMobil chairman and CEO Rex Tillerson to lead the State Department and become the country's top diplomat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The selection, which had been rumored for the past week, is unusual in a number of ways, and could face more scrutiny than usual when the Senate holds confirmation hearings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are some key facts about the president-elect's nominee for the final major position to be filled in his Cabinet:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tillerson never has worked for the government — or anyone other than Exxon since 1975\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson is the Wichita Falls, Texas-born son of a Boy Scouts of America administrator who rose to become an Eagle Scout himself, \u003cem>New Yorker\u003c/em> reporter \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2016/12/11/505187939/who-is-rex-tillerson-trumps-reported-pick-for-secretary-of-state\" target=\"_blank\">Steve Coll told NPR's Michel Martin\u003c/a>. He joined Exxon Co., U.S.A. shortly after earning a bachelor of science degree in civil engineering from the University of Texas at Austin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He never left, working his way up through the ranks to eventually lead the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The selection of a private-sector executive as secretary of state has happened before, \u003cem>The\u003c/em> \u003cem>Wall Street Journal\u003c/em> notes, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wsj.com/articles/exxons-rex-tillerson-is-top-candidate-for-secretary-of-state-1481318464\" target=\"_blank\">with Bechtel executive George Shultz serving under Reagan\u003c/a> -- but Shultz had previously served as secretary of Labor and Treasury secretary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11217197\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11217197\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Russian President Vladimir Putin and Rex Tillerson, chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, share a laugh during a signing ceremony for an arctic oil exploration deal between Exxon Mobil and Rosneft in August 2011.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-520x390.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823.jpg 926w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Russian President Vladimir Putin and Rex Tillerson, chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, share a laugh during a signing ceremony for an Arctic oil exploration deal between Exxon Mobil and Rosneft in August 2011. \u003ccite>(Sasha Mordovets/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Still, Coll notes in a \u003cem>New Yorker\u003c/em> piece that \u003ca href=\"http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/rex-tillerson-from-a-corporate-oil-sovereign-to-the-state-department\" target=\"_blank\">the oil giant runs a very State Department-like team of analysts\u003c/a> that predicts which countries will remain stable enough to ensure profitable investment. And \u003cem>The \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/808515387335839744\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cem>Washington Post\u003c/em>'s Philip Rucker reported late Monday\u003c/a> that Tillerson came with recommendations from former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Council on Foreign Relations president Richard Haass told NPR's David Greene \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2016/12/12/505227834/trump-expected-to-name-his-pick-for-secretary-of-state-soon\" target=\"_blank\">that the selection could work, with the right support\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's some difference between knowing about the world and knowing about foreign policy,\" Haass said. \"He'd obviously need to surround himself with people who had experience on the ground inside the department and around the inter-agency process.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>He's had extensive dealings with Russia — which may complicate his confirmation\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson spent much of his ExxonMobil career in the company's international division, Coll told NPR, developing ties to countries around the world — particularly Russia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That brought him into contact with Vladimir Putin,\" Coll said. \"ExxonMobil is one of the few American oil companies that has managed to stay in Russia through all kinds of political weather.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"7cXYUs4A9uhJI5gytbv4kt9cro81LNnu\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/12/12/505272577/in-exxonmobils-rex-tillerson-moscow-sees-trusted-highly-regarded-figure'\" target=\"_blank\">Tillerson developed close ties to state-run oil company Rosneft\u003c/a>, NPR's Lucian Kim reports, and had reached agreements to run development projects with Rosneft in Siberia and the Russian Arctic. Those projects came to a halt when the U.S. imposed economic sanctions following Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014. But the agreements left him with a good reputation in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\" 'The Russians respect strength, and they see it in ExxonMobil and Rex Tillerson. They like him,' Edward Verona, a former ExxonMobil Russia vice president, told NPR. 'Putin likes that personality type — not exactly the Trump personality, but the personality that quietly projects power, discipline, control. ... It's a pretty good example of diplomacy, alliance-building, seeing who your friends are and what they can do for you. It was pretty shrewd deal-making.' \"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Following CIA allegations of Russian hacking to benefit Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign, Tillerson will have to explain those ties to senators if he's to be confirmed, CFR's Haass told NPR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"He would have to say, 'Here's why I did what I did at the time. Here's how I'm going to separate myself from it now. Here's how I view Russia and how I would approach policy toward Russia.' So this is now probably the biggest single set of questions he would have to tackle.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11218487\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11218487\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Oil trucks line up in April 2013 at the Bazian refinery near the city of Sulaymaniyah in the semi-autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq. ExxonMobil was one of several oil companies to negotiate with the regional government, despite opposition from Baghdad and the United States.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-1020x573.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-1180x663.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-960x539.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-520x292.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oil trucks line up in April 2013 at the Bazian refinery near the city of Sulaymaniyah in the semi-autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq. ExxonMobil was one of several oil companies to negotiate with the regional government, despite opposition from Baghdad and the United States. \u003ccite>(Sebastian Meyer/Corbis via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The diplomatic goals of Tillerson's company haven't always lined up with those of his government\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The post-Crimea sanctions were not the first time ExxonMobil's goals were at cross-purposes with those of the United States, Coll told NPR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"ExxonMobil is a very large corporation that really sees itself as an independent sovereign in the world. It has revenue the size of the economy of South Africa. It operates all over the world, negotiating with leaders on behalf of its shareholders. It's kind of a parallel quasi-state.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Exxon operates in more than 50 different countries, \u003cem>The New York Times\u003c/em> reports; Tillerson became an important figure in nations around the world, Coll wrote in \u003cem>The\u003c/em> \u003cem>New Yorker.\u003c/em> He offered the example of ExxonMobil's business activity in the African nation of Chad:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"During the mid-two-thousands, the entirety of U.S. aid and military spending in the country directed through the U.S. Embassy in the capital, N'Djamena, amounted to less than twenty million dollars annually, whereas the royalty payments Exxon made to the government as part of an oil-production agreement were north of five hundred million dollars. Idriss Déby, the authoritarian President of Chad, did not need a calculator to understand that Rex Tillerson was more important to his future than the U.S. Secretary of State.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In Kurdistan, during the Obama Administration, Tillerson defied State Department policy and cut an independent oil deal with the Kurdish Regional Government, undermining the national Iraqi government in Baghdad. ExxonMobil did not ask permission. After the fact, Tillerson arranged a conference call with State Department officials and explained his actions, according to my sources, by saying, 'I had to do what was best for my shareholders.' \"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2016 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/\" target=\"_blank\">NPR.org\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"President-elect Donald Trump, in a statement early this morning, announced his intention to nominate the ExxonMobil chairman and CEO to become the country's top diplomat.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1481761210,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":1035},"headData":{"title":"What We Know About Rex Tillerson, Trump's Pick for Secretary of State | KQED","description":"President-elect Donald Trump, in a statement early this morning, announced his intention to nominate the ExxonMobil chairman and CEO to become the country's top diplomat.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11218423 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11218423","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/12/13/what-we-know-about-rex-tillerson-trumps-pick-for-secretary-of-state/","disqusTitle":"What We Know About Rex Tillerson, Trump's Pick for Secretary of State","source":"NPR","sourceUrl":"http://www.npr.org/","nprImageCredit":"Nicholas Kamm","nprByline":"Christopher Dean Hopkins","nprImageAgency":"AFP/Getty Images","nprStoryId":"505350255","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=505350255&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/13/505350255/what-we-know-about-rex-tillerson-trumps-pick-for-secretary-of-state?ft=nprml&f=505350255","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Tue, 13 Dec 2016 09:24:00 -0500","nprStoryDate":"Tue, 13 Dec 2016 00:43:00 -0500","nprLastModifiedDate":"Tue, 13 Dec 2016 09:24:29 -0500","path":"/news/11218423/what-we-know-about-rex-tillerson-trumps-pick-for-secretary-of-state","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>President-elect Donald Trump, in a statement early this morning, announced his intention to nominate ExxonMobil chairman and CEO Rex Tillerson to lead the State Department and become the country's top diplomat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The selection, which had been rumored for the past week, is unusual in a number of ways, and could face more scrutiny than usual when the Senate holds confirmation hearings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are some key facts about the president-elect's nominee for the final major position to be filled in his Cabinet:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tillerson never has worked for the government — or anyone other than Exxon since 1975\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson is the Wichita Falls, Texas-born son of a Boy Scouts of America administrator who rose to become an Eagle Scout himself, \u003cem>New Yorker\u003c/em> reporter \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2016/12/11/505187939/who-is-rex-tillerson-trumps-reported-pick-for-secretary-of-state\" target=\"_blank\">Steve Coll told NPR's Michel Martin\u003c/a>. He joined Exxon Co., U.S.A. shortly after earning a bachelor of science degree in civil engineering from the University of Texas at Austin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He never left, working his way up through the ranks to eventually lead the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The selection of a private-sector executive as secretary of state has happened before, \u003cem>The\u003c/em> \u003cem>Wall Street Journal\u003c/em> notes, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wsj.com/articles/exxons-rex-tillerson-is-top-candidate-for-secretary-of-state-1481318464\" target=\"_blank\">with Bechtel executive George Shultz serving under Reagan\u003c/a> -- but Shultz had previously served as secretary of Labor and Treasury secretary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11217197\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11217197\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Russian President Vladimir Putin and Rex Tillerson, chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, share a laugh during a signing ceremony for an arctic oil exploration deal between Exxon Mobil and Rosneft in August 2011.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-520x390.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823.jpg 926w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Russian President Vladimir Putin and Rex Tillerson, chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, share a laugh during a signing ceremony for an Arctic oil exploration deal between Exxon Mobil and Rosneft in August 2011. \u003ccite>(Sasha Mordovets/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Still, Coll notes in a \u003cem>New Yorker\u003c/em> piece that \u003ca href=\"http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/rex-tillerson-from-a-corporate-oil-sovereign-to-the-state-department\" target=\"_blank\">the oil giant runs a very State Department-like team of analysts\u003c/a> that predicts which countries will remain stable enough to ensure profitable investment. And \u003cem>The \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/808515387335839744\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cem>Washington Post\u003c/em>'s Philip Rucker reported late Monday\u003c/a> that Tillerson came with recommendations from former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Council on Foreign Relations president Richard Haass told NPR's David Greene \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2016/12/12/505227834/trump-expected-to-name-his-pick-for-secretary-of-state-soon\" target=\"_blank\">that the selection could work, with the right support\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's some difference between knowing about the world and knowing about foreign policy,\" Haass said. \"He'd obviously need to surround himself with people who had experience on the ground inside the department and around the inter-agency process.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>He's had extensive dealings with Russia — which may complicate his confirmation\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson spent much of his ExxonMobil career in the company's international division, Coll told NPR, developing ties to countries around the world — particularly Russia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That brought him into contact with Vladimir Putin,\" Coll said. \"ExxonMobil is one of the few American oil companies that has managed to stay in Russia through all kinds of political weather.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/12/12/505272577/in-exxonmobils-rex-tillerson-moscow-sees-trusted-highly-regarded-figure'\" target=\"_blank\">Tillerson developed close ties to state-run oil company Rosneft\u003c/a>, NPR's Lucian Kim reports, and had reached agreements to run development projects with Rosneft in Siberia and the Russian Arctic. Those projects came to a halt when the U.S. imposed economic sanctions following Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014. But the agreements left him with a good reputation in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\" 'The Russians respect strength, and they see it in ExxonMobil and Rex Tillerson. They like him,' Edward Verona, a former ExxonMobil Russia vice president, told NPR. 'Putin likes that personality type — not exactly the Trump personality, but the personality that quietly projects power, discipline, control. ... It's a pretty good example of diplomacy, alliance-building, seeing who your friends are and what they can do for you. It was pretty shrewd deal-making.' \"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Following CIA allegations of Russian hacking to benefit Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign, Tillerson will have to explain those ties to senators if he's to be confirmed, CFR's Haass told NPR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"He would have to say, 'Here's why I did what I did at the time. Here's how I'm going to separate myself from it now. Here's how I view Russia and how I would approach policy toward Russia.' So this is now probably the biggest single set of questions he would have to tackle.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11218487\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11218487\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Oil trucks line up in April 2013 at the Bazian refinery near the city of Sulaymaniyah in the semi-autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq. ExxonMobil was one of several oil companies to negotiate with the regional government, despite opposition from Baghdad and the United States.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-1020x573.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-1180x663.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-960x539.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks-520x292.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/Trucks.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oil trucks line up in April 2013 at the Bazian refinery near the city of Sulaymaniyah in the semi-autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq. ExxonMobil was one of several oil companies to negotiate with the regional government, despite opposition from Baghdad and the United States. \u003ccite>(Sebastian Meyer/Corbis via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The diplomatic goals of Tillerson's company haven't always lined up with those of his government\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The post-Crimea sanctions were not the first time ExxonMobil's goals were at cross-purposes with those of the United States, Coll told NPR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"ExxonMobil is a very large corporation that really sees itself as an independent sovereign in the world. It has revenue the size of the economy of South Africa. It operates all over the world, negotiating with leaders on behalf of its shareholders. It's kind of a parallel quasi-state.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Exxon operates in more than 50 different countries, \u003cem>The New York Times\u003c/em> reports; Tillerson became an important figure in nations around the world, Coll wrote in \u003cem>The\u003c/em> \u003cem>New Yorker.\u003c/em> He offered the example of ExxonMobil's business activity in the African nation of Chad:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"During the mid-two-thousands, the entirety of U.S. aid and military spending in the country directed through the U.S. Embassy in the capital, N'Djamena, amounted to less than twenty million dollars annually, whereas the royalty payments Exxon made to the government as part of an oil-production agreement were north of five hundred million dollars. Idriss Déby, the authoritarian President of Chad, did not need a calculator to understand that Rex Tillerson was more important to his future than the U.S. Secretary of State.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In Kurdistan, during the Obama Administration, Tillerson defied State Department policy and cut an independent oil deal with the Kurdish Regional Government, undermining the national Iraqi government in Baghdad. ExxonMobil did not ask permission. After the fact, Tillerson arranged a conference call with State Department officials and explained his actions, according to my sources, by saying, 'I had to do what was best for my shareholders.' \"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2016 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/\" target=\"_blank\">NPR.org\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11218423/what-we-know-about-rex-tillerson-trumps-pick-for-secretary-of-state","authors":["byline_news_11218423"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_1323","news_3804","news_20285","news_20279","news_17286"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11218424","label":"source_news_11218423"},"news_11217195":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11217195","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11217195","score":null,"sort":[1481583376000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"reports-trump-leaning-toward-exxonmobil-ceo-for-secretary-of-state","title":"Reports: Trump Leaning Toward ExxonMobil CEO for Secretary of State","publishDate":1481583376,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>President-elect Donald Trump is leaning toward choosing Rex Tillerson as his nominee for secretary of state, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rex-tillerson-exxon-mobil-expected-be-named-trump-s-secretary-n694371\">according to multiple news reports \u003c/a>this weekend. NPR has not independently confirmed those reports. The potential pick is already drawing scrutiny for the ExxonMobil CEO's close relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though he has no government experience, the 64-year-old Tillerson oversees a company that has operations in 50 countries around the world and has worked closely with Putin. In 2011, he struck a deal with a Kremlin-controlled oil company to drill in the Arctic, but the project was put on hold after the U.S. and Europe imposed sanctions on Russia over its actions in Ukraine, according to the \u003ca href=\"http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-candidate-for-state-has-close-ties-to-vladimir-putin-1481033938\">\u003cem>Wall Street Journal\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson has opposed U.S. sanctions against Russia, telling his company's shareholders in May 2014 that \"we don't find them to be effective unless they are very well implemented comprehensively and that's a very hard thing to do,\" according to \u003ca href=\"http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rex-tillerson-exxon-mobile-expected-be-named-trump-s-secretary-n694371?cid=eml_nbn_20161210\">NBC News\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11217197\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11217197\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Russian President Vladimir Putin and Rex Tillerson, chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, share a laugh during a signing ceremony for an arctic oil exploration deal between Exxon Mobil and Rosneft in August 2011.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-520x390.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823.jpg 926w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Russian President Vladimir Putin and Rex Tillerson, chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, share a laugh during a signing ceremony for an Arctic oil exploration deal between Exxon Mobil and Rosneft in August 2011. \u003ccite>(Sasha Mordovets/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The prospect of Tillerson as secretary of state sparked a round of criticism from Democrats, and even pushback from Republican senators who would vote on his nomination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Florida GOP Sen. Marco Rubio sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which conducts hearings for secretary of state nominees, and tweeted on Sunday, \"Being a 'friend of Vladimir' is not an attribute I am hoping for from a #SecretaryOfState.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., pledged that Tillerson will get a fair hearing in the Senate during at interview with CBS's \u003cem>Face The Nation\u003c/em>, but added, \"It's a matter of concern to me that he has such a close personal relationship with Vladimir Putin.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump and his transition team insist that no final decision has been made and that an announcement is coming this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/807970490635743237\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump praised many of the candidates he has interviewed for the job in an interview on \u003cem>Fox News Sunday\u003c/em>, where he was asked to make the case for Tillerson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He's much more than a business executive. I mean, he's a world-class player,\" Trump said of the ExxonMobil chief.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's been a company that's been unbelievably managed,\" Trump continued. \"And to me, a great advantage is he knows many of the players, and he knows them well. He does massive deals in Russia. He does massive deals for the company, not for himself, for the company.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson represented his company in Russia during Boris Yeltsin's administration, and in 2013 the Kremlin awarded him Russia's \"Order of Friendship.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"vRPwoWj4ArEuoSVahKYzyP32g31yspuv\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The news of Tillerson's likely nomination comes just as the CIA has concluded that Russia intervened in the 2016 election specifically to help Trump win. Trump pushed back on that report late Friday, in a statement that disparaged the CIA but didn't address Russia's involvement. Throughout the campaign, Trump repeatedly praised Putin and questioned earlier reports from the CIA that Russian hackers were behind the release of emails from the Democratic National Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump's deliberation over who should serve as the country's chief diplomat has been very public. In an interview process that has seemed at times to mirror the drama that the former reality TV star loves, other finalists for the job included Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker, R-Tenn.; former CIA Director David Petraeus; and 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, a leading critic of Trump in the 2016 campaign. Romney recanted his comments calling Trump a \"phony\" and a \"fraud\" as he lobbied for the secretary of state job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton was also seen in contention, but reports indicate he is likely to be named as deputy secretary of state, responsible for daily operations as the State Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bolton served under President George W. Bush in the State Department and as U.N. ambassador, and he stands by the decision to invade Iraq in 2003 and overthrow Saddam Hussein. He also \u003ca href=\"http://nypost.com/2016/11/13/trump-needs-to-reverse-the-iran-deal-and-assert-our-interests/\">advocates for tearing up the Iran nuclear agreement\u003c/a> reached by the Obama administration. Bolton said recently that the only lasting solution is \"regime change in Tehran.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another onetime top pick, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/09/politics/rudy-giuliani-removes-himself-from-consideration-for-trump-cabinet-post/\">announced\u003c/a> Friday he had taken himself out of the running, though earlier reports had indicated it was Trump who had already decided that one of his most fervent supporters and frequent surrogates would not get the plum post.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If Tillerson is nominated, there will be some tough questions ahead about how he can take on the role of America's top diplomat and distance himself from his company's interests and his vast holdings of Exxon shares, which are reportedly worth about $151 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are some breaks between Tillerson and the president-elect. According to \u003ca href=\"https://origin-nyi.thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/308363-scarborough-trump-considering-exxon-ceo-for-secretary-of-state\">\u003cem>The Hill\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, Tillerson does believe in man-made climate change and supports the Paris climate agreement that Trump opposes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson is a Texas native and has run ExxonMobil since 2006. He began his career at Exxon as an engineer in 1975.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Michele Kelemen, Meg Anderson and Arnie Seipel contributed\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2016 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/\" target=\"_blank\">NPR.org\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Rex Tillerson, a 64-year-old oil executive, has no government experience. His longtime ties to Russia, including President Vladimir Putin, are already drawing scrutiny from critics.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1481587691,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":905},"headData":{"title":"Reports: Trump Leaning Toward ExxonMobil CEO for Secretary of State | KQED","description":"Rex Tillerson, a 64-year-old oil executive, has no government experience. 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NPR has not independently confirmed those reports. The potential pick is already drawing scrutiny for the ExxonMobil CEO's close relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though he has no government experience, the 64-year-old Tillerson oversees a company that has operations in 50 countries around the world and has worked closely with Putin. In 2011, he struck a deal with a Kremlin-controlled oil company to drill in the Arctic, but the project was put on hold after the U.S. and Europe imposed sanctions on Russia over its actions in Ukraine, according to the \u003ca href=\"http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-candidate-for-state-has-close-ties-to-vladimir-putin-1481033938\">\u003cem>Wall Street Journal\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson has opposed U.S. sanctions against Russia, telling his company's shareholders in May 2014 that \"we don't find them to be effective unless they are very well implemented comprehensively and that's a very hard thing to do,\" according to \u003ca href=\"http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rex-tillerson-exxon-mobile-expected-be-named-trump-s-secretary-n694371?cid=eml_nbn_20161210\">NBC News\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11217197\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11217197\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Russian President Vladimir Putin and Rex Tillerson, chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, share a laugh during a signing ceremony for an arctic oil exploration deal between Exxon Mobil and Rosneft in August 2011.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823-520x390.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/12/gettyimages-123065051-93e1f43fa2415e4b6abfdeb752e046b1f2f2e823.jpg 926w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Russian President Vladimir Putin and Rex Tillerson, chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, share a laugh during a signing ceremony for an Arctic oil exploration deal between Exxon Mobil and Rosneft in August 2011. \u003ccite>(Sasha Mordovets/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The prospect of Tillerson as secretary of state sparked a round of criticism from Democrats, and even pushback from Republican senators who would vote on his nomination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Florida GOP Sen. Marco Rubio sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which conducts hearings for secretary of state nominees, and tweeted on Sunday, \"Being a 'friend of Vladimir' is not an attribute I am hoping for from a #SecretaryOfState.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., pledged that Tillerson will get a fair hearing in the Senate during at interview with CBS's \u003cem>Face The Nation\u003c/em>, but added, \"It's a matter of concern to me that he has such a close personal relationship with Vladimir Putin.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump and his transition team insist that no final decision has been made and that an announcement is coming this week.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"807970490635743237"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Trump praised many of the candidates he has interviewed for the job in an interview on \u003cem>Fox News Sunday\u003c/em>, where he was asked to make the case for Tillerson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He's much more than a business executive. I mean, he's a world-class player,\" Trump said of the ExxonMobil chief.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's been a company that's been unbelievably managed,\" Trump continued. \"And to me, a great advantage is he knows many of the players, and he knows them well. He does massive deals in Russia. He does massive deals for the company, not for himself, for the company.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson represented his company in Russia during Boris Yeltsin's administration, and in 2013 the Kremlin awarded him Russia's \"Order of Friendship.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The news of Tillerson's likely nomination comes just as the CIA has concluded that Russia intervened in the 2016 election specifically to help Trump win. Trump pushed back on that report late Friday, in a statement that disparaged the CIA but didn't address Russia's involvement. Throughout the campaign, Trump repeatedly praised Putin and questioned earlier reports from the CIA that Russian hackers were behind the release of emails from the Democratic National Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump's deliberation over who should serve as the country's chief diplomat has been very public. In an interview process that has seemed at times to mirror the drama that the former reality TV star loves, other finalists for the job included Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker, R-Tenn.; former CIA Director David Petraeus; and 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, a leading critic of Trump in the 2016 campaign. Romney recanted his comments calling Trump a \"phony\" and a \"fraud\" as he lobbied for the secretary of state job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton was also seen in contention, but reports indicate he is likely to be named as deputy secretary of state, responsible for daily operations as the State Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bolton served under President George W. Bush in the State Department and as U.N. ambassador, and he stands by the decision to invade Iraq in 2003 and overthrow Saddam Hussein. He also \u003ca href=\"http://nypost.com/2016/11/13/trump-needs-to-reverse-the-iran-deal-and-assert-our-interests/\">advocates for tearing up the Iran nuclear agreement\u003c/a> reached by the Obama administration. Bolton said recently that the only lasting solution is \"regime change in Tehran.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another onetime top pick, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/09/politics/rudy-giuliani-removes-himself-from-consideration-for-trump-cabinet-post/\">announced\u003c/a> Friday he had taken himself out of the running, though earlier reports had indicated it was Trump who had already decided that one of his most fervent supporters and frequent surrogates would not get the plum post.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If Tillerson is nominated, there will be some tough questions ahead about how he can take on the role of America's top diplomat and distance himself from his company's interests and his vast holdings of Exxon shares, which are reportedly worth about $151 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are some breaks between Tillerson and the president-elect. According to \u003ca href=\"https://origin-nyi.thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/308363-scarborough-trump-considering-exxon-ceo-for-secretary-of-state\">\u003cem>The Hill\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, Tillerson does believe in man-made climate change and supports the Paris climate agreement that Trump opposes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tillerson is a Texas native and has run ExxonMobil since 2006. He began his career at Exxon as an engineer in 1975.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Michele Kelemen, Meg Anderson and Arnie Seipel contributed\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2016 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/\" target=\"_blank\">NPR.org\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11217195/reports-trump-leaning-toward-exxonmobil-ceo-for-secretary-of-state","authors":["byline_news_11217195"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_13","news_356"],"tags":["news_1323","news_3804","news_20279","news_17286"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11217196","label":"source_news_11217195"},"news_87311":{"type":"posts","id":"news_87311","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"87311","score":null,"sort":[1359160040000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"apple-falls-to-no-2-but-analysts-wonder-why","title":"Apple Falls to No. 2, But Analysts Wonder Why","publishDate":1359160040,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>When Apple fell this week, its thud resounded around the globe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The gadget maker's stocks dropped, pushing it down to second-most-valuable company in the world on Friday, behind Exxon, after \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/01/23/apple-earnings-release/\">announcing on Wednesday\u003c/a> that its profits haven't grown for a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_38110\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2011/08/24/report-steve-jobs-resigns-as-apple-ceo/steve-jobs-introduces-icloud-storage-system-at-apples-worldwide-developers-conference/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-38110\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-38110\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/08/115285792-300x212.jpg\" alt=\"Apple CEO Steve Jobs delivers the keynote address at the 2011 Apple World Wide Developers Conference on June 6, 2001 in San Francisco. (Photo by: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\" width=\"300\" height=\"212\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Apple's co-founder, Steve Jobs, may be dead but analysts say his touch lingers on products in the company's pipeline. (Photo by: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The 2.5 percent decline in stock price on Friday (following a 12 percent drop on Thursday) lowered Apple's market capitalization to a mere $413 billion. Exxon is worth $418 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But experts interviewed by KQED's Peter Jon Shuler say it's premature to call Apple spoiled fruit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the first place, Apple's revenues were up 18 percent from a year ago. The company sold more iPhones and iPads than ever before. It was production costs associated with launching new products, such as the iPhone 5 and iPad mini that ate into profits. Mac sales may be down for the first time in years, but PC sales have been dropping for a while -- and a lot of that can be traced to competition with the iPad.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what's giving rise to gloomy comments like this one from \"author investor\" Carol Roth on \u003ca href=\"http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakou\">Yahoo Finance\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>There is a point in time when these companies become too big to succeed. Apple now is twice Microsoft's size, approximately, and I think it's running into the same issues; it's very hard to get that huge growth when you are so large.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>But Apple is not too big, said Neil Hughes, senior editor at Apple Insider. What may be over-sized were analysts' expectations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Part of it is that Apple had this unheard of growth,\" Hughes told Shuler. \"It was start-up-like growth for a 30-year-old company ... Investors are realizing that it can’t last forever ... But they still have $120 billion in cash and investments, they are still selling more product than ever before, so a lot of those concerns are unfounded.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Technorati may be contributing to the aura of gloom about Apple, said Sarah Rotman Epps of Forrester Research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There is also a misunderstanding of Apple’s product line and who they’re innovating for,\" she said. \"A lot of the first customers were tech optimists or early adopters who may feel disappointed about where Apple is today. They’re not interested in tech innovating just for the sake of innovation … Instead they’re interested in bringing up their entire ecosystem together and maintaining a relatively high level ... of service ... They’re interested in quality, not innovation for innovation’s sake.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Richard Doherty, an analyst at Envisioneering Group pointed out the company has some less tangible assets. His team has been talking to costumers has made Doherty optimistic about Apple's prospects.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We’ve heard of people wearing out Apple screens,\" he said. \"You talk to anybody who has an iPhone, an iPod or an iPad those products get a lot of use.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Likewise, he said, having Apple on your resume pretty much guarantees great job offers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"From what we’re aware of [Apple has] less turnover than most companies in the Fortune 500, let alone Silicon Valley.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At trade shows, too, everyone seems to have their eyes fixed on Apple's booth, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company also has an asset no one else can claim: Steve Jobs. Although the company's brilliant co-founder died in October 2011, his imprint remains on most products in its pipeline. \"So the real test of Tim Cooke or whoever comes next wont be this year but five years from now,\" said Epps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite these fundamental strengths, Apple will have to come up with something new and exciting, Epps said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>If you look at the markets they’re in, MP3 players is a declining market. PC’s is a declining market. Tablets is a maturing market and Apple still has a majority share of it and I think they’re doing very very well with the iPad line. Smart phones is a growing market and Apple has to fight for it... They’re fighting Samsung, they’re fighting the the Android ecosystem, they’re fighting lower price-point phones. So even in the best-case scenario, Apple can’t sustain tremendous growth unless they enter brand-new markets... They noted that they are still in the market of rolling out iPhone 5’s to more carriers around the world. They are launching in new countries, both the hardware and the software. Apple is hoping that more carriers will stimulate growth but they also need new products to attract new customers, to attract new growth.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the time being, though, these experts think Apple's still a good buy. Doherty gave it the best recommendation an analysts can give: \"I don’t own stock in the companies we’ve been talking about today; as an analyst I’m not allowed to. But if I could I would own Apple in a heartbeat.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1359160780,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":872},"headData":{"title":"Apple Falls to No. 2, But Analysts Wonder Why | KQED","description":"When Apple fell this week, its thud resounded around the globe. The gadget maker's stocks dropped, pushing it down to second-most-valuable company in the world on Friday, behind Exxon, after announcing on Wednesday that its profits haven't grown for a year. 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Mac sales may be down for the first time in years, but PC sales have been dropping for a while -- and a lot of that can be traced to competition with the iPad.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what's giving rise to gloomy comments like this one from \"author investor\" Carol Roth on \u003ca href=\"http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakou\">Yahoo Finance\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>There is a point in time when these companies become too big to succeed. Apple now is twice Microsoft's size, approximately, and I think it's running into the same issues; it's very hard to get that huge growth when you are so large.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>But Apple is not too big, said Neil Hughes, senior editor at Apple Insider. What may be over-sized were analysts' expectations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Part of it is that Apple had this unheard of growth,\" Hughes told Shuler. \"It was start-up-like growth for a 30-year-old company ... Investors are realizing that it can’t last forever ... But they still have $120 billion in cash and investments, they are still selling more product than ever before, so a lot of those concerns are unfounded.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Technorati may be contributing to the aura of gloom about Apple, said Sarah Rotman Epps of Forrester Research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There is also a misunderstanding of Apple’s product line and who they’re innovating for,\" she said. \"A lot of the first customers were tech optimists or early adopters who may feel disappointed about where Apple is today. They’re not interested in tech innovating just for the sake of innovation … Instead they’re interested in bringing up their entire ecosystem together and maintaining a relatively high level ... of service ... They’re interested in quality, not innovation for innovation’s sake.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Richard Doherty, an analyst at Envisioneering Group pointed out the company has some less tangible assets. His team has been talking to costumers has made Doherty optimistic about Apple's prospects.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We’ve heard of people wearing out Apple screens,\" he said. \"You talk to anybody who has an iPhone, an iPod or an iPad those products get a lot of use.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Likewise, he said, having Apple on your resume pretty much guarantees great job offers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"From what we’re aware of [Apple has] less turnover than most companies in the Fortune 500, let alone Silicon Valley.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At trade shows, too, everyone seems to have their eyes fixed on Apple's booth, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company also has an asset no one else can claim: Steve Jobs. Although the company's brilliant co-founder died in October 2011, his imprint remains on most products in its pipeline. \"So the real test of Tim Cooke or whoever comes next wont be this year but five years from now,\" said Epps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite these fundamental strengths, Apple will have to come up with something new and exciting, Epps said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>If you look at the markets they’re in, MP3 players is a declining market. PC’s is a declining market. Tablets is a maturing market and Apple still has a majority share of it and I think they’re doing very very well with the iPad line. Smart phones is a growing market and Apple has to fight for it... They’re fighting Samsung, they’re fighting the the Android ecosystem, they’re fighting lower price-point phones. So even in the best-case scenario, Apple can’t sustain tremendous growth unless they enter brand-new markets... They noted that they are still in the market of rolling out iPhone 5’s to more carriers around the world. They are launching in new countries, both the hardware and the software. Apple is hoping that more carriers will stimulate growth but they also need new products to attract new customers, to attract new growth.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the time being, though, these experts think Apple's still a good buy. Doherty gave it the best recommendation an analysts can give: \"I don’t own stock in the companies we’ve been talking about today; as an analyst I’m not allowed to. 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