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Trump (@realDonaldTrump) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/832197515248275456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 16, 2017\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n\u003cp lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by \"intelligence\" like candy. Very un-American!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/831853862281699331?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 15, 2017\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It'll be very interesting to see with these leak investigations that are going on now just exactly what Donald J. Trump's people and Jeff Sessions do with the [security] capabilities they just inherited from Barack Obama,” Ellsberg said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was also a sense of optimism about the state of resistance by ordinary people post-election. Ellsberg referred to the recent \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/01/28/protesters-rush-to-airports-as-trump-order-targeting-refugees-take-effect/\">airport protests\u003c/a> denouncing President Trump's ban on refugees worldwide and on travelers from seven predominantly Muslim countries, calling the protests \"encouraging.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's been awhile since I've seen anything like this,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden also referred to post-election protests, the rise in donations to the American Civil Liberties Union and reported swells in newspaper subscriptions after Trump's election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"People are realizing afresh that democracy is not an inheritance,\" said Snowden. \"I see the seed being planted and the very first shoots ... we will see dark days ahead but ... we will learn again what it means to resist injustice and how to do so effectively.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n\u003cp lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Edward Snowden on the silver linings of the Trump administration \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/IGy60wOQgy\">pic.twitter.com/IGy60wOQgy\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Ericka Cruz Guevarra (@erkagvra) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/erkagvra/status/836021142112460800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 27, 2017\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden also spoke of living life in anonymity in Russia, and the possibility of getting snatched by the CIA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's always a possibility. Much earlier on, it was much more realistic.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden said he regularly rides the metro in Russia, and that it's relatively easy to go unrecognized -- except in computer stores.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In my situation, I don't want a lot of my day-to-day to be known,\" he said. \"I don't want my persona to follow me home ... One of the places I used to go very frequently is now much riskier for me, and that would be computer stores.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked what he saw looking 20 years into the future, Snowden said \"everyone wants a happy ending\" to their life, adding that what happened to him wasn't nearly as important as what happened to the country in terms of preserving liberty and freedom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked if not being able to return to the United States was \"worth it,\" Snowden said this:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I would do it again, and I would do it sooner.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"'People are realizing afresh that democracy is not an inheritance,' said Snowden. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1488237599,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":754},"headData":{"title":"Edward Snowden and Daniel Ellsberg on the State of Security and Freedom Under Trump | KQED","description":"'People are realizing afresh that democracy is not an inheritance,' said Snowden. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Edward Snowden and Daniel Ellsberg on the State of Security and Freedom Under Trump","datePublished":"2017-02-27T23:19:59.000Z","dateModified":"2017-02-27T23:19:59.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11335380 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11335380","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/02/27/edward-snowden-and-daniel-ellsberg-on-the-state-of-security-and-freedom-under-trump/","disqusTitle":"Edward Snowden and Daniel Ellsberg on the State of Security and Freedom Under Trump","path":"/news/11335380/edward-snowden-and-daniel-ellsberg-on-the-state-of-security-and-freedom-under-trump","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Speaking to a live audience in San Francisco on Sunday, Edward Snowden, the former intelligence officer who \u003ca href=\"http://video.kqed.org/video/2365857871/\">released documents\u003c/a> about the National Security Agency's surveillance activities in 2013, said that the sole qualification for whistleblowing is to be a witness to injustice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You do not have to be the president to make a difference,\" he said. \"Whistleblowers are elected by circumstance. ... Do what you can if you see injustice. Stand up and say something. It's not enough to believe in something. If you want to see a better world, you must do something to achieve it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden spoke through live-stream video from Russia at a City Arts & Lectures event in San Francisco. He was joined by \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/06/17/daniel-ellsberg-edward-snowden-nsa/\">Daniel Ellsberg\u003c/a>, the former military analyst who \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/06/13/137156974/daniel-ellsberg-expected-life-in-prison-after-leaking-pentagon-papers\">leaked classified documents \u003c/a>known as the Pentagon Papers. Efforts to discredit Ellsberg in a plan hatched by the White House figured into the impeachment proceedings of President Richard Nixon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden said he wouldn't have done what he did if not for the precedent set by Ellsberg. Snowden now lives under asylum in Russia. Ellsberg remains in the United States after facing a trial that was dismissed in 1973 on grounds of governmental misconduct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two spoke with KQED's Scott Shafer about whistleblowing and the state of privacy and truth under the Trump presidency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“When you look at the situation of this White House, of this administration, their relationship to the press, their policy positions. ... These are all callbacks to a time when domestically and internationally our lives were fraught with the insecurity and instability that we thought we left behind and should've left behind,\" said Snowden. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked about recent memo leaks, including one that led to the \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/news/story/2017/02/13/226080/michael_flynn_resigns_as_trumps_national_security_adviser?source=npr&category=politics\">resignation \u003c/a>of Donald Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn, Ellsberg expressed concern over the reaction from the administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n\u003cp lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Leaking, and even illegal classified leaking, has been a big problem in Washington for years. Failing \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/nytimes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@nytimes\u003c/a> (and others) must apologize!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/832197515248275456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 16, 2017\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n\u003cp lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by \"intelligence\" like candy. Very un-American!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/831853862281699331?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 15, 2017\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It'll be very interesting to see with these leak investigations that are going on now just exactly what Donald J. Trump's people and Jeff Sessions do with the [security] capabilities they just inherited from Barack Obama,” Ellsberg said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was also a sense of optimism about the state of resistance by ordinary people post-election. Ellsberg referred to the recent \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/01/28/protesters-rush-to-airports-as-trump-order-targeting-refugees-take-effect/\">airport protests\u003c/a> denouncing President Trump's ban on refugees worldwide and on travelers from seven predominantly Muslim countries, calling the protests \"encouraging.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's been awhile since I've seen anything like this,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden also referred to post-election protests, the rise in donations to the American Civil Liberties Union and reported swells in newspaper subscriptions after Trump's election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"People are realizing afresh that democracy is not an inheritance,\" said Snowden. \"I see the seed being planted and the very first shoots ... we will see dark days ahead but ... we will learn again what it means to resist injustice and how to do so effectively.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n\u003cp lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Edward Snowden on the silver linings of the Trump administration \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/IGy60wOQgy\">pic.twitter.com/IGy60wOQgy\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Ericka Cruz Guevarra (@erkagvra) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/erkagvra/status/836021142112460800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 27, 2017\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden also spoke of living life in anonymity in Russia, and the possibility of getting snatched by the CIA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's always a possibility. Much earlier on, it was much more realistic.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden said he regularly rides the metro in Russia, and that it's relatively easy to go unrecognized -- except in computer stores.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In my situation, I don't want a lot of my day-to-day to be known,\" he said. \"I don't want my persona to follow me home ... One of the places I used to go very frequently is now much riskier for me, and that would be computer stores.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked what he saw looking 20 years into the future, Snowden said \"everyone wants a happy ending\" to their life, adding that what happened to him wasn't nearly as important as what happened to the country in terms of preserving liberty and freedom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked if not being able to return to the United States was \"worth it,\" Snowden said this:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I would do it again, and I would do it sooner.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11335380/edward-snowden-and-daniel-ellsberg-on-the-state-of-security-and-freedom-under-trump","authors":["8654"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_13","news_248"],"tags":["news_656","news_1323","news_4492","news_1351"],"featImg":"news_11335382","label":"news_6944"},"news_124528":{"type":"posts","id":"news_124528","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"124528","score":null,"sort":[1390862801000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"feds-make-deal-with-net-firms-over-disclosure-of-user-info","title":"Feds Make Deal With Net Firms Over Disclosure of User Info","publishDate":1390862801,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_99672\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg-e1376089449125.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-99672\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg-e1376089449125.jpg\" alt=\"NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"640\" height=\"512\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Md. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/jessejholland\" target=\"_blank\">Jesse J. Holland\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\nAssociated Press\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>WASHINGTON — The government and leading Internet companies on Monday announced a compromise that will allow those companies to reveal how often they are ordered to turn over customer information in national security investigations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2014/January/14-ag-081.html\" target=\"_blank\">Justice Department said\u003c/a> it had reached agreements with Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook and LinkedIn that would put an end to those companies' legal challenges before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. The companies had asked judges to allow them to disclose data on national security orders the companies have received under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The delivery of customer information to the government from Internet companies has been under examination following leaks about \u003ca href=\"http://www.nsa.gov/\" target=\"_blankl\">National Security Agency\u003c/a> surveillance by \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/templates/archives/archive.php?thingId=190293264\" target=\"_blank\">former NSA systems analyst Edward Snowden\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of those companies were among several U.S. Internet businesses identified as giving the NSA access to customer data under \u003ca href=\"http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/17/4517480/nsa-spying-prism-surveillance-cheat-sheet\" target=\"_blank\">the program known as PRISM\u003c/a>. But the companies had said they wanted to make the disclosures in order to correct inaccuracies in news reports and to calm public speculation about the scope of the companies' cooperation with the government. The providers wanted to show that only a tiny fraction of their customers' accounts have been subject to legal orders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The government had opposed those requests, but reached a deal with the companies late last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Permitting disclosure of this aggregate data addresses an important area of concern to communications providers and the public,\" Attorney General Eric Holder and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in a joint statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Following the Snowden leaks, the FBI allowed communications providers to report in a limited way the number of orders for data they received from the government and the number of accounts affected by such orders. However, the FBI agreed to disclosure only of a single, aggregate number of criminal and national security-related orders to the companies from all U.S. governmental entities, plus local and state entities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the compromise announced Monday, Internet companies will be able to report the number of criminal-related orders from the government. They also will be able to release, rounded to the nearest thousand, the number of secret national security-related orders from government investigators; the number of national security-related orders from the FISA court and the number of customers those orders affected, and whether those orders were for just email addresses or covered additional information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The companies can also choose a simplified reporting process that allows them to report the number of criminal-related orders, and then national security or intelligence orders in increments of 250 and the total number of customers targeted, also in groups of 250.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These new reporting methods enable communications providers to make public more information than ever before about the orders that they have received to provide data to the government,\" Deputy Attorney General James M. Cole said in a letter to the five Internet companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The companies will have to delay releasing the number of national security orders by six months. They also had to promise that if they come up with new technology or new forms of communication, they are not able to reveal that the government can tap into that new technology for two years.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Companies can now report roughly how many demands for user data the NSA and other agencies are making. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1390868379,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":14,"wordCount":548},"headData":{"title":"Feds Make Deal With Net Firms Over Disclosure of User Info | KQED","description":"Companies can now report roughly how many demands for user data the NSA and other agencies are making. 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(NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"640\" height=\"512\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Md. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/jessejholland\" target=\"_blank\">Jesse J. Holland\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\nAssociated Press\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>WASHINGTON — The government and leading Internet companies on Monday announced a compromise that will allow those companies to reveal how often they are ordered to turn over customer information in national security investigations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2014/January/14-ag-081.html\" target=\"_blank\">Justice Department said\u003c/a> it had reached agreements with Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook and LinkedIn that would put an end to those companies' legal challenges before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. The companies had asked judges to allow them to disclose data on national security orders the companies have received under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The delivery of customer information to the government from Internet companies has been under examination following leaks about \u003ca href=\"http://www.nsa.gov/\" target=\"_blankl\">National Security Agency\u003c/a> surveillance by \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/templates/archives/archive.php?thingId=190293264\" target=\"_blank\">former NSA systems analyst Edward Snowden\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of those companies were among several U.S. Internet businesses identified as giving the NSA access to customer data under \u003ca href=\"http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/17/4517480/nsa-spying-prism-surveillance-cheat-sheet\" target=\"_blank\">the program known as PRISM\u003c/a>. But the companies had said they wanted to make the disclosures in order to correct inaccuracies in news reports and to calm public speculation about the scope of the companies' cooperation with the government. The providers wanted to show that only a tiny fraction of their customers' accounts have been subject to legal orders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The government had opposed those requests, but reached a deal with the companies late last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Permitting disclosure of this aggregate data addresses an important area of concern to communications providers and the public,\" Attorney General Eric Holder and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in a joint statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Following the Snowden leaks, the FBI allowed communications providers to report in a limited way the number of orders for data they received from the government and the number of accounts affected by such orders. However, the FBI agreed to disclosure only of a single, aggregate number of criminal and national security-related orders to the companies from all U.S. governmental entities, plus local and state entities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the compromise announced Monday, Internet companies will be able to report the number of criminal-related orders from the government. They also will be able to release, rounded to the nearest thousand, the number of secret national security-related orders from government investigators; the number of national security-related orders from the FISA court and the number of customers those orders affected, and whether those orders were for just email addresses or covered additional information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The companies can also choose a simplified reporting process that allows them to report the number of criminal-related orders, and then national security or intelligence orders in increments of 250 and the total number of customers targeted, also in groups of 250.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These new reporting methods enable communications providers to make public more information than ever before about the orders that they have received to provide data to the government,\" Deputy Attorney General James M. Cole said in a letter to the five Internet companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The companies will have to delay releasing the number of national security orders by six months. They also had to promise that if they come up with new technology or new forms of communication, they are not able to reveal that the government can tap into that new technology for two years.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/124528/feds-make-deal-with-net-firms-over-disclosure-of-user-info","authors":["237"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_4492","news_249","news_93","news_1445","news_3952","news_5596","news_4481","news_351"],"featImg":"news_99672","label":"news_6944"},"news_124281":{"type":"posts","id":"news_124281","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"124281","score":null,"sort":[1390575613000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"rep-george-miller-has-harsh-words-for-intelligence-committees","title":"Rep. George Miller Has Harsh Words for Intelligence Committees","publishDate":1390575613,"format":"aside","headTitle":"Rep. George Miller Has Harsh Words for Intelligence Committees | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_124295\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 204px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/01/23/rep-george-miller-has-harsh-words-for-intelligence-committees/george-miller/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-124295\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-124295 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/01/George-Miller-487x640.jpg\" alt=\"George Miller\" width=\"204\" height=\"269\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rep. George Miller had some critical words for the House and Senate intelligence committees during his visit to “Forum.”\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Martinez Congressman George Miller, who announced last week he won’t seek re-election after 20 terms in office, appeared on KQED’s “Forum” on Thursday to reflect on his 40 years representing the East Bay. \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201401230900\">In an interview\u003c/a> that covered everything from the Affordable Care Act to his No Child Left Behind legislation, it was his criticism of the House and Senate intelligence committees that stood out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Miller’s harsh words for how the intelligence panels operate came in response to a listener who asked in part: “The recent Manning & Snowden leaks seem to show the same abuses enumerated in the Church Committee of the late ’70s. How can the next Rep. to sit in his seat restrain NSA spying, CIA secret killing, and wars based on lies like Iraq better than the last 30 years?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And here’s Miller’s response:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“That’s a tough question, but I think that person better be real skeptical. I went in with the Watergate papers; Frank Church’s report on the Intelligence Committee that looks a lot like the report on the NSA; Michael Harrington, the congressman from Massachusetts, who was talking about spying and the rest of this, essentially probably had to leave Congress because of his public discussion of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I voted for \u003ca href=\"http://beta.congress.gov/amendment/113th-congress/house-amendment/413?q=%7B\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the amendment\u003c/a> that sort of pulled the NSA up short in the House a couple months ago, that vote for me was more about the House intelligence and the Senate intelligence committees because I think those committees are set up not to have real oversight, but so the intelligence agencies can say that they come and they’ve talked to Congress: ‘We informed Congress.’ They informed them in such an opaque fashion that the members of the committee are (saying) to one another: ‘Did they tell us this? How do we find out? Where was this? Where was that?’\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">‘I think those committees are set up not to have real oversight, but so the intelligence agencies can say that they come and they’ve talked to Congress.’\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>And they’ll tell you, as they ask very pointed questions. Many times the answers are never forthcoming, weeks and months later. So I think that Congress, as representatives of the people — the people can’t do all of this — they better rethink their intelligence committee oversight on these agencies, because they’re getting buffaloed on a daily basis by these agencies and passing the buck around.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Retiring lawmaker says panels fail to provide oversight and that his successor 'better be skeptical.'","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1685486695,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":8,"wordCount":461},"headData":{"title":"Rep. 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George Miller had some critical words for the House and Senate intelligence committees during his visit to “Forum.”\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Martinez Congressman George Miller, who announced last week he won’t seek re-election after 20 terms in office, appeared on KQED’s “Forum” on Thursday to reflect on his 40 years representing the East Bay. \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201401230900\">In an interview\u003c/a> that covered everything from the Affordable Care Act to his No Child Left Behind legislation, it was his criticism of the House and Senate intelligence committees that stood out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Miller’s harsh words for how the intelligence panels operate came in response to a listener who asked in part: “The recent Manning & Snowden leaks seem to show the same abuses enumerated in the Church Committee of the late ’70s. How can the next Rep. to sit in his seat restrain NSA spying, CIA secret killing, and wars based on lies like Iraq better than the last 30 years?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And here’s Miller’s response:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“That’s a tough question, but I think that person better be real skeptical. I went in with the Watergate papers; Frank Church’s report on the Intelligence Committee that looks a lot like the report on the NSA; Michael Harrington, the congressman from Massachusetts, who was talking about spying and the rest of this, essentially probably had to leave Congress because of his public discussion of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I voted for \u003ca href=\"http://beta.congress.gov/amendment/113th-congress/house-amendment/413?q=%7B\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the amendment\u003c/a> that sort of pulled the NSA up short in the House a couple months ago, that vote for me was more about the House intelligence and the Senate intelligence committees because I think those committees are set up not to have real oversight, but so the intelligence agencies can say that they come and they’ve talked to Congress: ‘We informed Congress.’ They informed them in such an opaque fashion that the members of the committee are (saying) to one another: ‘Did they tell us this? How do we find out? Where was this? Where was that?’\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">‘I think those committees are set up not to have real oversight, but so the intelligence agencies can say that they come and they’ve talked to Congress.’\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>And they’ll tell you, as they ask very pointed questions. Many times the answers are never forthcoming, weeks and months later. So I think that Congress, as representatives of the people — the people can’t do all of this — they better rethink their intelligence committee oversight on these agencies, because they’re getting buffaloed on a daily basis by these agencies and passing the buck around.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/124281/rep-george-miller-has-harsh-words-for-intelligence-committees","authors":["70"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_18540","news_19906","news_13"],"tags":["news_4492","news_2582","news_5536","news_3630","news_4481"],"featImg":"news_124295","label":"news_6944"},"news_119673":{"type":"posts","id":"news_119673","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"119673","score":null,"sort":[1385770507000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-national-security-agency-knows-if-youve-been-naughty","title":"The National Security Agency Knows If You've Been Naughty","publishDate":1385770507,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_99672\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/06/12/NSA/nsa-jpg/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-99672\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-99672\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg-e1376089449125.jpg\" alt=\"NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"640\" height=\"512\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Radicalizers everywhere should be disturbed by the latest revelations about the National Security Agency's surveillance operations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.html\">report\u003c/a> based on yet another top-secret document provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, the Huffington Post (lead writer Glenn Greenwald) says that \"the NSA has been gathering records of online sexual activity and evidence of visits to pornographic websites as part of a proposed plan to harm the reputations of those whom the agency believes are radicalizing others through incendiary speeches.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The story says the doc identifies six targets, all Muslims, as “exemplars” of how “personal vulnerabilities” can be gleaned through electronic spying, and then exploited to undermine credibility, reputation and authority. In other words, pile on so much shame that the target is no longer effective.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That the NSA is trying to discredit terrorists is not what is unsettling. Rather, it's the murky definition of \"radicalizer\" — and of course the fact that the NSA is in every corner of our lives. \u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">Critics argue that the NSA's arguments and vulnerabilities used against the targets could easily be expanded to use against other social media-using, porn-watching, jihad-espousing and/or conspiracy-loving \"radicals.\"\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>None of the six is accused by the NSA of being involved in terror plots. Says the Huff Post:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Instead, the NSA believes the targeted individuals radicalize people through the expression of controversial ideas via YouTube, Facebook and other social media websites. Their audience, both English and Arabic speakers, \"includes individuals who do not yet hold extremist views but who are susceptible to the extremist message,” the document states. The NSA says the speeches and writings of the six individuals resonate most in countries including the United Kingdom, Germany, Sweden, Kenya, Pakistan, India and Saudi Arabia.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>According to the report's accompanying chart, one of the six is a \"well-known media celebrity\" who argues that \"the U.S. perpetrated the 9/11 attacks\"; his vulnerability is said to be \"a glamorous lifestyle.\" Another target argues publicly that “non-Muslims are a threat to Islam” — not an uncommon viewpoint among fundamentalists of any faith. Another target is a foreign citizen the NSA describes as a \"respected academic\"; he holds the view that \"offensive jihad is justified,\" and his vulnerabilities are listed as \"online promiscuity\" and \"publishes articles without checking facts.\" Another target argues that \"the U.S. brought the 9/11 attacks on itself\"; he is vulnerable to accusations of “deceitful use of funds.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/11/the-nsas-porn-surveillance-program-not-safe-for-democracy/281914/\">Critics \u003c/a>argue that the NSA's arguments and vulnerabilities used against the targets could \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/11/huffington_post_nsa_spying_on_porn_habits_of_muslim_radicalizers.html\">easily be expanded\u003c/a> to use against other social media-using, porn-watching, jihad-espousing and/or conspiracy-loving \"radicals\" — a huge population, if you start counting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the San Francisco Chronicle's James Temple \u003ca href=\"http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2013/11/27/could-nsa-porn-spying-revelations-make-privacy-concerns-click/\">pointed out\u003c/a>, \"as always, the concern lies with the NSA making decisions about appropriate targets and boundaries absent any outside scrutiny. At what point does a devout Muslim preacher become a 'radicalizer'? At what point does the leader of a protest movement, like Occupy Wall Street, become a 'radicalizer'?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He goes on to note historical precedent:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>It's worth recalling that U.S. spy agencies have a horrendous track record on this issue. In the mid-'70s, it became clear the government had engaged in systematic surveillance of domestic targets, including Martin Luther King Jr., John Lennon and Daniel Ellsberg, as the Electronic Frontier Foundation noted in a recent post. The FBI's first director, J. Edgar Hoover, maintained a \"sex deviate\" file that he wielded as a political weapon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is straight out of the J. Edgar Hoover playbook,\" said Cindy Cohn, legal director at EFF in San Francisco. \"These people aren't terrorist suspects, it's clear from the documents. They're people who are saying things that the government doesn't like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's why we have checks and balances in our system, it's why we don't let the government do mass surveillance ... and it's why we make them go before a judge before you do this,\" she added. \"Otherwise you get mission creep and things like this, sadly.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union, was more specific in the Huff Post story:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Wherever you are, the NSA's databases store information about your political views, your medical history, your intimate relationships and your activities online,\" he said. \"The NSA says this personal information won't be abused, but these documents show that the NSA probably defines 'abuse' very narrowly.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_auto_sidebar id=\"55TDvI2Ud2CCKDkqXjFpnTeTU90dBWOr\"]\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"More privacy concerns as the NSA tries to discredit \"targets\" by tracking their visits to porn sites.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1385791189,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":775},"headData":{"title":"The National Security Agency Knows If You've Been Naughty | KQED","description":"More privacy concerns as the NSA tries to discredit "targets" by tracking their visits to porn sites.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"The National Security Agency Knows If You've Been Naughty","datePublished":"2013-11-30T00:15:07.000Z","dateModified":"2013-11-30T05:59:49.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"119673 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=119673","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/29/the-national-security-agency-knows-if-youve-been-naughty/","disqusTitle":"The National Security Agency Knows If You've Been Naughty","customPermalink":"2013/11/29/119673/National-Security-Agency-porn/","path":"/news/119673/the-national-security-agency-knows-if-youve-been-naughty","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_99672\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/06/12/NSA/nsa-jpg/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-99672\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-99672\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg-e1376089449125.jpg\" alt=\"NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"640\" height=\"512\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Radicalizers everywhere should be disturbed by the latest revelations about the National Security Agency's surveillance operations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.html\">report\u003c/a> based on yet another top-secret document provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, the Huffington Post (lead writer Glenn Greenwald) says that \"the NSA has been gathering records of online sexual activity and evidence of visits to pornographic websites as part of a proposed plan to harm the reputations of those whom the agency believes are radicalizing others through incendiary speeches.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The story says the doc identifies six targets, all Muslims, as “exemplars” of how “personal vulnerabilities” can be gleaned through electronic spying, and then exploited to undermine credibility, reputation and authority. In other words, pile on so much shame that the target is no longer effective.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That the NSA is trying to discredit terrorists is not what is unsettling. Rather, it's the murky definition of \"radicalizer\" — and of course the fact that the NSA is in every corner of our lives. \u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">Critics argue that the NSA's arguments and vulnerabilities used against the targets could easily be expanded to use against other social media-using, porn-watching, jihad-espousing and/or conspiracy-loving \"radicals.\"\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>None of the six is accused by the NSA of being involved in terror plots. Says the Huff Post:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Instead, the NSA believes the targeted individuals radicalize people through the expression of controversial ideas via YouTube, Facebook and other social media websites. Their audience, both English and Arabic speakers, \"includes individuals who do not yet hold extremist views but who are susceptible to the extremist message,” the document states. The NSA says the speeches and writings of the six individuals resonate most in countries including the United Kingdom, Germany, Sweden, Kenya, Pakistan, India and Saudi Arabia.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>According to the report's accompanying chart, one of the six is a \"well-known media celebrity\" who argues that \"the U.S. perpetrated the 9/11 attacks\"; his vulnerability is said to be \"a glamorous lifestyle.\" Another target argues publicly that “non-Muslims are a threat to Islam” — not an uncommon viewpoint among fundamentalists of any faith. Another target is a foreign citizen the NSA describes as a \"respected academic\"; he holds the view that \"offensive jihad is justified,\" and his vulnerabilities are listed as \"online promiscuity\" and \"publishes articles without checking facts.\" Another target argues that \"the U.S. brought the 9/11 attacks on itself\"; he is vulnerable to accusations of “deceitful use of funds.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/11/the-nsas-porn-surveillance-program-not-safe-for-democracy/281914/\">Critics \u003c/a>argue that the NSA's arguments and vulnerabilities used against the targets could \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/11/huffington_post_nsa_spying_on_porn_habits_of_muslim_radicalizers.html\">easily be expanded\u003c/a> to use against other social media-using, porn-watching, jihad-espousing and/or conspiracy-loving \"radicals\" — a huge population, if you start counting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the San Francisco Chronicle's James Temple \u003ca href=\"http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2013/11/27/could-nsa-porn-spying-revelations-make-privacy-concerns-click/\">pointed out\u003c/a>, \"as always, the concern lies with the NSA making decisions about appropriate targets and boundaries absent any outside scrutiny. At what point does a devout Muslim preacher become a 'radicalizer'? At what point does the leader of a protest movement, like Occupy Wall Street, become a 'radicalizer'?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He goes on to note historical precedent:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>It's worth recalling that U.S. spy agencies have a horrendous track record on this issue. In the mid-'70s, it became clear the government had engaged in systematic surveillance of domestic targets, including Martin Luther King Jr., John Lennon and Daniel Ellsberg, as the Electronic Frontier Foundation noted in a recent post. The FBI's first director, J. Edgar Hoover, maintained a \"sex deviate\" file that he wielded as a political weapon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is straight out of the J. Edgar Hoover playbook,\" said Cindy Cohn, legal director at EFF in San Francisco. \"These people aren't terrorist suspects, it's clear from the documents. They're people who are saying things that the government doesn't like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's why we have checks and balances in our system, it's why we don't let the government do mass surveillance ... and it's why we make them go before a judge before you do this,\" she added. \"Otherwise you get mission creep and things like this, sadly.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union, was more specific in the Huff Post story:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Wherever you are, the NSA's databases store information about your political views, your medical history, your intimate relationships and your activities online,\" he said. \"The NSA says this personal information won't be abused, but these documents show that the NSA probably defines 'abuse' very narrowly.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_auto_sidebar id=\"55TDvI2Ud2CCKDkqXjFpnTeTU90dBWOr\"]\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/119673/the-national-security-agency-knows-if-youve-been-naughty","authors":["237"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_4492","news_4783"],"featImg":"news_99672","label":"news_6944"},"news_106346":{"type":"posts","id":"news_106346","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"106346","score":null,"sort":[1376090108000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"email-privacy-a-myth-to-protect-your-data-it-must-be-destroyed","title":"Email Privacy a Myth - To Protect Your Data, It Must Be Destroyed","publishDate":1376090108,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_99672\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/06/12/NSA/nsa-jpg/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-99672\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-99672 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg-300x240.jpg\" alt=\"NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>By Katharine Fong\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Obama talked today about the National Security Agency's electronic surveillance efforts and Americans' privacy concerns, but the buzz in the cybersecurity world centered on two major email encryption services' decision to close down yesterday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What does the shuttering of Texas-based Lavabits (reportedly used by Edward Snowden) and the email encryption services of Maryland-based Silent Circle mean? The New York Times Bits blog \u003ca href=\"http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/08/two-providers-of-encrypted-e-mail-shut-down/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130809\">says\u003c/a> it signals that emails, \"even if they are encrypted, can be accessed by government authorities and that the only way to prevent turning over the data is to obliterate the servers that the data sits on.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Indeed, Lavabits destroyed its servers, much to the consternation of some of its users.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This raises the question of whether anyone can realistically offer an online encryption service that promises confidentiality,\" said Kurt Opsahl, senior staff attorney for the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Silent Circle cofounder Jon Callas said much the same in a blog post today. \"Email that uses standard Internet protocols cannot have the same security guarantees that real-time communications has,\" he wrote. \"Email as we know it with SMTP, POP3, and IMAP cannot be secure.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Opsahl says one can still send an encrypted message over email, using programs from PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) and open-source GPG, among \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/lavabit-silent-circle-shut-down-e-mail-what-alternatives-are-left/2013/08/09/639230ec-00ee-11e3-96a8-d3b921c0924a_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines\">others\u003c/a>. These offer end-to-end encryption protection. But Opsahl says this requires both parties to have the software installed - and it's not easy. \"It's hard to do, especially for those not sophisticated with encryption protocols.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1376161888,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":9,"wordCount":272},"headData":{"title":"Email Privacy a Myth - To Protect Your Data, It Must Be Destroyed | KQED","description":"By Katharine Fong President Obama talked today about the National Security Agency's electronic surveillance efforts and Americans' privacy concerns, but the buzz in the cybersecurity world centered on two major email encryption services' decision to close down yesterday. What does the shuttering of Texas-based Lavabits (reportedly used by Edward Snowden) and the email encryption services","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Email Privacy a Myth - To Protect Your Data, It Must Be Destroyed","datePublished":"2013-08-09T23:15:08.000Z","dateModified":"2013-08-10T19:11:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"106346 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=106346","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/08/09/email-privacy-a-myth-to-protect-your-data-it-must-be-destroyed/","disqusTitle":"Email Privacy a Myth - To Protect Your Data, It Must Be Destroyed","customPermalink":"2013/08/09/106346/email-privacy-data-surveillance/","path":"/news/106346/email-privacy-a-myth-to-protect-your-data-it-must-be-destroyed","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_99672\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/06/12/NSA/nsa-jpg/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-99672\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-99672 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg-300x240.jpg\" alt=\"NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>By Katharine Fong\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Obama talked today about the National Security Agency's electronic surveillance efforts and Americans' privacy concerns, but the buzz in the cybersecurity world centered on two major email encryption services' decision to close down yesterday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What does the shuttering of Texas-based Lavabits (reportedly used by Edward Snowden) and the email encryption services of Maryland-based Silent Circle mean? The New York Times Bits blog \u003ca href=\"http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/08/two-providers-of-encrypted-e-mail-shut-down/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130809\">says\u003c/a> it signals that emails, \"even if they are encrypted, can be accessed by government authorities and that the only way to prevent turning over the data is to obliterate the servers that the data sits on.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Indeed, Lavabits destroyed its servers, much to the consternation of some of its users.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This raises the question of whether anyone can realistically offer an online encryption service that promises confidentiality,\" said Kurt Opsahl, senior staff attorney for the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Silent Circle cofounder Jon Callas said much the same in a blog post today. \"Email that uses standard Internet protocols cannot have the same security guarantees that real-time communications has,\" he wrote. \"Email as we know it with SMTP, POP3, and IMAP cannot be secure.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Opsahl says one can still send an encrypted message over email, using programs from PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) and open-source GPG, among \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/lavabit-silent-circle-shut-down-e-mail-what-alternatives-are-left/2013/08/09/639230ec-00ee-11e3-96a8-d3b921c0924a_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines\">others\u003c/a>. These offer end-to-end encryption protection. But Opsahl says this requires both parties to have the software installed - and it's not easy. \"It's hard to do, especially for those not sophisticated with encryption protocols.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/106346/email-privacy-a-myth-to-protect-your-data-it-must-be-destroyed","authors":["236"],"programs":["news_6944"],"tags":["news_4492","news_152","news_4700","news_1859","news_4701"],"featImg":"news_99672","label":"news_6944"},"news_103324":{"type":"posts","id":"news_103324","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"103324","score":null,"sort":[1373563224000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"yahoo-asks-secretive-court-to-declassify-its-opposition-to-data-collection","title":"Yahoo Asks Secretive Court to Declassify its Opposition to Data Collection","publishDate":1373563224,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_99672\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/06/12/NSA/nsa-jpg/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-99672\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-99672 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg-300x240.jpg\" alt=\"NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The San Jose Mercury News\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23640324/exclusive-yahoo-seeks-reveal-its-fight-against-nsa\"> reports\u003c/a> that Yahoo is asking the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to let the public see its arguments in a 2008 case that the government used to persuade tech companies to cooperate with its massive data-gathering efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yahoo joins a growing list of parties demanding greater transparency over the government's secret data-collection programs, including that known as Prism, revealed last month by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/google-challenges-us-gag-order-citing-first-amendment/2013/06/18/96835c72-d832-11e2-a9f2-42ee3912ae0e_story.html\">Google \u003c/a>and \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/the-circuit-microsoft-follows-google-with-motion-to-publish-data-aereo-sets-sights-on-chicago-spectrum-hearing-in-the-house/2013/06/27/f188fa8e-df3d-11e2-963a-72d740e88c12_story.html\">Microsoft \u003c/a>have both challenged gag orders that prevent them from disclosing what data they are forced to give the government under Prism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in a related \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/legal-battle-over-nsa-surveillance-grows/2013/07/08/6be1ad94-e808-11e2-aa9f-c03a72e2d342_story.html\">development\u003c/a> earlier this week, the Electronic Privacy Information Committee (EPIC) \u003ca href=\"http://epic.org/EPIC-FISC-Mandamus-Petition.pdf\">filed a complaint with the Supreme Court\u003c/a> questioning whether the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court had the authority to order Verizon to turn over data from domestic phone records.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its filing, Yahoo says its 2008 arguments would demonstrate that the company \"objected strenuously\" to government demands for customers' information and that they would also help the public understand how surveillance programs are approved under federal law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under federal law, the court's ruling and the arguments by Yahoo and other companies have been treated as classified information. Until last month, Yahoo was not even allowed to say it was a party in the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If Yahoo succeeds in unsealing some of the court files, legal experts say, it would be a historic development and an important step toward illuminating the arguments behind controversial Internet surveillance programs,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In EPIC's amicus brief filed on Monday, the ACLU, Electronic Frontier Foundation digital rights group, First Amendment Coalition and others lined up in support of Google and Microsoft with the court. In a copy of the brief obtained by \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/legal-battle-over-nsa-surveillance-grows/2013/07/08/6be1ad94-e808-11e2-aa9f-c03a72e2d342_story.html\">The Washington Post\u003c/a>, the group said that the firms have faced public criticism for disclosing data to the government and that it is “antithetical to the First Amendment to restrict the ability of a person to mount a defense against public accusations by responding with speech setting forth the truth about one’s own actions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>EPIC’s brief argues that this kind of order does not fall within the power granted to the court by a section of the Patriot Act that allows data sought in an order to be “relevant” to an authorized investigation.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1373563224,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":11,"wordCount":405},"headData":{"title":"Yahoo Asks Secretive Court to Declassify its Opposition to Data Collection | KQED","description":"The San Jose Mercury News reports that Yahoo is asking the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to let the public see its arguments in a 2008 case that the government used to persuade tech companies to cooperate with its massive data-gathering efforts. 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(NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The San Jose Mercury News\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23640324/exclusive-yahoo-seeks-reveal-its-fight-against-nsa\"> reports\u003c/a> that Yahoo is asking the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to let the public see its arguments in a 2008 case that the government used to persuade tech companies to cooperate with its massive data-gathering efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yahoo joins a growing list of parties demanding greater transparency over the government's secret data-collection programs, including that known as Prism, revealed last month by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/google-challenges-us-gag-order-citing-first-amendment/2013/06/18/96835c72-d832-11e2-a9f2-42ee3912ae0e_story.html\">Google \u003c/a>and \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/the-circuit-microsoft-follows-google-with-motion-to-publish-data-aereo-sets-sights-on-chicago-spectrum-hearing-in-the-house/2013/06/27/f188fa8e-df3d-11e2-963a-72d740e88c12_story.html\">Microsoft \u003c/a>have both challenged gag orders that prevent them from disclosing what data they are forced to give the government under Prism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in a related \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/legal-battle-over-nsa-surveillance-grows/2013/07/08/6be1ad94-e808-11e2-aa9f-c03a72e2d342_story.html\">development\u003c/a> earlier this week, the Electronic Privacy Information Committee (EPIC) \u003ca href=\"http://epic.org/EPIC-FISC-Mandamus-Petition.pdf\">filed a complaint with the Supreme Court\u003c/a> questioning whether the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court had the authority to order Verizon to turn over data from domestic phone records.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its filing, Yahoo says its 2008 arguments would demonstrate that the company \"objected strenuously\" to government demands for customers' information and that they would also help the public understand how surveillance programs are approved under federal law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under federal law, the court's ruling and the arguments by Yahoo and other companies have been treated as classified information. Until last month, Yahoo was not even allowed to say it was a party in the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If Yahoo succeeds in unsealing some of the court files, legal experts say, it would be a historic development and an important step toward illuminating the arguments behind controversial Internet surveillance programs,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In EPIC's amicus brief filed on Monday, the ACLU, Electronic Frontier Foundation digital rights group, First Amendment Coalition and others lined up in support of Google and Microsoft with the court. In a copy of the brief obtained by \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/legal-battle-over-nsa-surveillance-grows/2013/07/08/6be1ad94-e808-11e2-aa9f-c03a72e2d342_story.html\">The Washington Post\u003c/a>, the group said that the firms have faced public criticism for disclosing data to the government and that it is “antithetical to the First Amendment to restrict the ability of a person to mount a defense against public accusations by responding with speech setting forth the truth about one’s own actions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>EPIC’s brief argues that this kind of order does not fall within the power granted to the court by a section of the Patriot Act that allows data sought in an order to be “relevant” to an authorized investigation.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/103324/yahoo-asks-secretive-court-to-declassify-its-opposition-to-data-collection","authors":["237"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6188","news_248"],"tags":["news_4492","news_152","news_4481","news_4491","news_351"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_100100":{"type":"posts","id":"news_100100","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"100100","score":null,"sort":[1371492109000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"video-daniel-ellsberg-talks-edward-snowden-nsa-leaks","title":"2 Sides of NSA Debate: Ellsberg Calls Programs 'Impeachable Offense'; Feinstein Points to Plots Foiled","publishDate":1371492109,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Daniel Ellsberg, the Big Daddy of all government whistleblowers, \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bT_tqp7HDhE#!\" target=\"_blank\">defended NSA leaker Edward Snowden\u003c/a> in an interview with \"This Week in Northern California\" host Dana King on Friday. Ellsberg lives in Kensington and has been a frequent \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2011/01/14/podcast-daniel-ellsberg-at-mill-valley-public-library/\" target=\"_blank\">presence in the Bay Area\u003c/a> talking about the need for government transparency as it relates to national security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ellsberg, as you might imagine, said Snowden did a \"great benefit to this country.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's very hard to imagine a democracy surviving long with the government having that kind of ability to blackmail any given person,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"http://www.youtube.com/embed/bT_tqp7HDhE\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ellsberg called the National Security Agency programs, which indiscriminately gather data related to the telecommunications and Internet habits of millions of U.S. citizens, an impeachable offense under both presidents Bush and Obama. He also said he was dismayed by how many Democrats have switched from opposing the programs under Bush to supporting expanded versions under Obama. \"I'm speaking of Sen. Feinstein here, very specifically,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein, who is chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, has been an outspoken defender of the programs since the news of their existence broke. Last week she \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/09/feinstein-nsa-programs-thwarted-plots-in-new-york-mumbai/\" target=\"_blank\">pointed to two specific terrorist plots\u003c/a> that she said the programs helped foil, including the planned bombing of the New York City subway system in 2009. NSA officials said this weekend, anonymously, \u003ca href=\"http://news.yahoo.com/officials-nsa-programs-broke-plots-20-nations-233703820.html\" target=\"_blank\">those are just the tip of the iceberg\u003c/a>. President Obama has also \u003ca href=\"http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57589514/obama-doesnt-think-nsa-programs-violated-americans-privacy-wh-says/\" target=\"_blank\">defended the NSA activity\u003c/a>, as have those of a decidedly different political persuasion, like \u003ca href=\"http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57589521/dick-cheney-defends-nsa-surveillance-programs/\" target=\"_blank\">Dick Chene\u003c/a>y, who called Snowden a traitor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In other news on this story today, Apple said that over the last six months it \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23477457/apple-joins-other-tech-companies-detailing-government-requests\" target=\"_blank\">received between 4,000-5,000 requests for customer data related to all law enforcement investigations\u003c/a>, though it did not break out how many came from the NSA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden, who has taken refuge in Hong Kong, did an \u003ca href=\"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower?guni=Network%20front:network-front%20main-2%20Special%20trail:Network%20front%20-%20special%20trail:Position1\" target=\"_blank\">online chat\u003c/a> with Guardian blogger Glenn Greenwald, who broke the story. Here's the complete AP write-up on that...\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>WASHINGTON (AP) — NSA leaker Edward Snowden is defending his disclosure of top-secret U.S. spying programs in an online chat Monday with The Guardian and is attacking U.S. officials for calling him a traitor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The U.S. government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me,\" he said. He added the government \"immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home,\" by labeling him a traitor, and indicated he would not return to the U.S. voluntarily.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Congressional leaders have called Snowden a traitor for revealing once-secret surveillance programs two weeks ago in the Guardian and The Washington Post. The National Security Agency programs collect records of millions of Americans' telephone calls and Internet usage as a counterterror tool. The disclosures revealed the scope of the collections, which surprised many Americans and have sparked debate about how much privacy the government can take away in the name of national security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It would be foolish to volunteer yourself to\" possible arrest and criminal charges \"if you can do more good outside of prison than in it,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one posted reply to a question, Snowden dismissed being called a traitor by former Vice President Dick Cheney, who made the allegations in an interview this week on Fox News Sunday. Cheney was echoing a charge by Senate Intelligence Committee chair Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein ... the better off we all are,\" he said. \"This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead,\" he added, referring to the U.S. invasion of Iraq.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Guardian announced that its website was hosting an online chat with Snowden, in hiding in Hong Kong, with reporter Glenn Greenwald receiving and posting his questions. The Associated Press couldn't independently verify that Snowden was the man who posted 19 replies to questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In answer to a question about charges made by Cheney and other U.S. officials that he might be spying for China, and trading information for asylum, Snowden wrote, \"Ask yourself: if I were a Chinese spy, why wouldn't I have flown directly into Beijing? I could be living in a palace petting a phoenix by now.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added later, \"I have had no contact with the Chinese government.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden explained that he had not flown directly to Iceland, where he has said he would like to seek asylum, because of the restrictions on travel for U.S. government employees with top clearances that require permission 30 days in advance, making Hong Kong the more accessible option.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden dismissed the U.S. government's claims that the NSA surveillance programs had helped thwart dozens of terrorist attacks in more than 20 countries, including the 2009 al-Qaida plot by Afghan American Najibullah Zazi to blow up New York subways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Journalists should ask a specific question: ... how many terrorist attacks were prevented SOLELY by information derived from this suspicionless surveillance that could not be gained via any other source? Then ask how many individual communications were ingested to acheive (sic) that, and ask yourself if it was worth it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added that \"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden was working as a contractor for NSA at the time he had access to the then-secret programs. He defended his actions and said he considered what to reveal and what not to, saying he did not reveal any U.S. operations against what he called legitimate military targets, but instead showed that the NSA is hacking civilian infrastructure like universities and private businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These nakedly, aggressively criminal acts are wrong no matter the target. Not only that, when NSA makes a technical mistake during an exploitation operation, critical systems crash,\" he said, though he gave no examples of what systems have crashed or in which countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Congress hasn't declared war on the countries — the majority of them are our allies — but without asking for public permission, NSA is running network operations against them that affect millions of innocent people,\" he said. \"And for what? So we can have secret access to a computer in a country we're not even fighting?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden was referring to Prism, one of the programs he disclosed. The program sweeps up Internet usage data from all over the world that goes through nine major U.S.-based Internet providers. The NSA can look at foreign usage without any warrants, and says the program doesn't target Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. officials say the data-gathering programs are legal and operated under secret court supervision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden explained his claim that from his desk, he could \"wiretap\" any phone call or email — a claim top intelligence officials have denied. \"If an NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, etc. analyst has access to query raw SIGINT (signals intelligence) databases, they can enter and get results for anything they want,\" he wrote in the answer posted on the Guardian site. \"Phone number, email, user id, cell phone handset id (IMEI), and so on — it's all the same.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The NSA did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment. But Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has said that the kind of data that can be accessed and who can access it are severely limited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden said the restrictions on what could be seen by an individual analyst vary according to policy changes, which can happen \"at any time,\" and said that a technical \"filter\" on NSA data-gathering meant to filter out U.S. communications is \"weak,\" such that U.S. communications often get ingested.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The former contractor also added that NSA provides Congress \"with a special immunity to its surveillance,\" without explaining further.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden defended U.S. Army Pfc. Bradley Manning for his disclosures of documents to Wikileaks, which he called a \"legitimate journalistic outlet,\" which \"carefully redacted all of their releases in accordance with a judgment of public interest.\" He said the Wikileaks release of unredacted material was \"due to the failure of a partner journalist to control a passphrase,\" which led to the charge against Manning that he dumped the documents, which Snowden called an attempt to smear Manning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Manning is currently on trial at Fort Meade — the same Army base where the NSA is headquartered — on charges of aiding the enemy for releasing documents to Wikileaks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden defended his description of his salary as being $200,000 a year, calling that a \"career high,\" but saying he did take a pay cut to take the job at Booz Allen Hamilton, where he worked as a contractor at an NSA facility in Hawaii. When Booz Allen fired him, they said his salary was $122,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one of his final replies, Snowden attacked the \"mainstream media\" for its coverage, saying it \"now seems far more interested in what I said when I was 17 or what my girlfriend looks like rather than, say, the largest program of suspicion-less surveillance in human history.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1371505588,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":37,"wordCount":1582},"headData":{"title":"2 Sides of NSA Debate: Ellsberg Calls Programs 'Impeachable Offense'; Feinstein Points to Plots Foiled | KQED","description":"Daniel Ellsberg, the Big Daddy of all government whistleblowers, defended NSA leaker Edward Snowden in an interview with "This Week in Northern California" host Dana King on Friday. Ellsberg lives in Kensington and has been a frequent presence in the Bay Area talking about the need for government transparency as it relates to national security.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"2 Sides of NSA Debate: Ellsberg Calls Programs 'Impeachable Offense'; Feinstein Points to Plots Foiled","datePublished":"2013-06-17T18:01:49.000Z","dateModified":"2013-06-17T21:46:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"100100 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=100100","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/06/17/video-daniel-ellsberg-talks-edward-snowden-nsa-leaks/","disqusTitle":"2 Sides of NSA Debate: Ellsberg Calls Programs 'Impeachable Offense'; Feinstein Points to Plots Foiled","customPermalink":"2013/06/17/daniel-ellsberg-edward-snowden-nsa/","path":"/news/100100/video-daniel-ellsberg-talks-edward-snowden-nsa-leaks","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Daniel Ellsberg, the Big Daddy of all government whistleblowers, \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bT_tqp7HDhE#!\" target=\"_blank\">defended NSA leaker Edward Snowden\u003c/a> in an interview with \"This Week in Northern California\" host Dana King on Friday. Ellsberg lives in Kensington and has been a frequent \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2011/01/14/podcast-daniel-ellsberg-at-mill-valley-public-library/\" target=\"_blank\">presence in the Bay Area\u003c/a> talking about the need for government transparency as it relates to national security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ellsberg, as you might imagine, said Snowden did a \"great benefit to this country.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's very hard to imagine a democracy surviving long with the government having that kind of ability to blackmail any given person,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"http://www.youtube.com/embed/bT_tqp7HDhE\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ellsberg called the National Security Agency programs, which indiscriminately gather data related to the telecommunications and Internet habits of millions of U.S. citizens, an impeachable offense under both presidents Bush and Obama. He also said he was dismayed by how many Democrats have switched from opposing the programs under Bush to supporting expanded versions under Obama. \"I'm speaking of Sen. Feinstein here, very specifically,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein, who is chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, has been an outspoken defender of the programs since the news of their existence broke. Last week she \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/09/feinstein-nsa-programs-thwarted-plots-in-new-york-mumbai/\" target=\"_blank\">pointed to two specific terrorist plots\u003c/a> that she said the programs helped foil, including the planned bombing of the New York City subway system in 2009. NSA officials said this weekend, anonymously, \u003ca href=\"http://news.yahoo.com/officials-nsa-programs-broke-plots-20-nations-233703820.html\" target=\"_blank\">those are just the tip of the iceberg\u003c/a>. President Obama has also \u003ca href=\"http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57589514/obama-doesnt-think-nsa-programs-violated-americans-privacy-wh-says/\" target=\"_blank\">defended the NSA activity\u003c/a>, as have those of a decidedly different political persuasion, like \u003ca href=\"http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57589521/dick-cheney-defends-nsa-surveillance-programs/\" target=\"_blank\">Dick Chene\u003c/a>y, who called Snowden a traitor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In other news on this story today, Apple said that over the last six months it \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23477457/apple-joins-other-tech-companies-detailing-government-requests\" target=\"_blank\">received between 4,000-5,000 requests for customer data related to all law enforcement investigations\u003c/a>, though it did not break out how many came from the NSA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden, who has taken refuge in Hong Kong, did an \u003ca href=\"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower?guni=Network%20front:network-front%20main-2%20Special%20trail:Network%20front%20-%20special%20trail:Position1\" target=\"_blank\">online chat\u003c/a> with Guardian blogger Glenn Greenwald, who broke the story. Here's the complete AP write-up on that...\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>WASHINGTON (AP) — NSA leaker Edward Snowden is defending his disclosure of top-secret U.S. spying programs in an online chat Monday with The Guardian and is attacking U.S. officials for calling him a traitor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The U.S. government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me,\" he said. He added the government \"immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home,\" by labeling him a traitor, and indicated he would not return to the U.S. voluntarily.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Congressional leaders have called Snowden a traitor for revealing once-secret surveillance programs two weeks ago in the Guardian and The Washington Post. The National Security Agency programs collect records of millions of Americans' telephone calls and Internet usage as a counterterror tool. The disclosures revealed the scope of the collections, which surprised many Americans and have sparked debate about how much privacy the government can take away in the name of national security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It would be foolish to volunteer yourself to\" possible arrest and criminal charges \"if you can do more good outside of prison than in it,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one posted reply to a question, Snowden dismissed being called a traitor by former Vice President Dick Cheney, who made the allegations in an interview this week on Fox News Sunday. Cheney was echoing a charge by Senate Intelligence Committee chair Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein ... the better off we all are,\" he said. \"This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead,\" he added, referring to the U.S. invasion of Iraq.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Guardian announced that its website was hosting an online chat with Snowden, in hiding in Hong Kong, with reporter Glenn Greenwald receiving and posting his questions. The Associated Press couldn't independently verify that Snowden was the man who posted 19 replies to questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In answer to a question about charges made by Cheney and other U.S. officials that he might be spying for China, and trading information for asylum, Snowden wrote, \"Ask yourself: if I were a Chinese spy, why wouldn't I have flown directly into Beijing? I could be living in a palace petting a phoenix by now.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added later, \"I have had no contact with the Chinese government.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden explained that he had not flown directly to Iceland, where he has said he would like to seek asylum, because of the restrictions on travel for U.S. government employees with top clearances that require permission 30 days in advance, making Hong Kong the more accessible option.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden dismissed the U.S. government's claims that the NSA surveillance programs had helped thwart dozens of terrorist attacks in more than 20 countries, including the 2009 al-Qaida plot by Afghan American Najibullah Zazi to blow up New York subways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Journalists should ask a specific question: ... how many terrorist attacks were prevented SOLELY by information derived from this suspicionless surveillance that could not be gained via any other source? Then ask how many individual communications were ingested to acheive (sic) that, and ask yourself if it was worth it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added that \"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden was working as a contractor for NSA at the time he had access to the then-secret programs. He defended his actions and said he considered what to reveal and what not to, saying he did not reveal any U.S. operations against what he called legitimate military targets, but instead showed that the NSA is hacking civilian infrastructure like universities and private businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These nakedly, aggressively criminal acts are wrong no matter the target. Not only that, when NSA makes a technical mistake during an exploitation operation, critical systems crash,\" he said, though he gave no examples of what systems have crashed or in which countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Congress hasn't declared war on the countries — the majority of them are our allies — but without asking for public permission, NSA is running network operations against them that affect millions of innocent people,\" he said. \"And for what? So we can have secret access to a computer in a country we're not even fighting?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden was referring to Prism, one of the programs he disclosed. The program sweeps up Internet usage data from all over the world that goes through nine major U.S.-based Internet providers. The NSA can look at foreign usage without any warrants, and says the program doesn't target Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. officials say the data-gathering programs are legal and operated under secret court supervision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden explained his claim that from his desk, he could \"wiretap\" any phone call or email — a claim top intelligence officials have denied. \"If an NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, etc. analyst has access to query raw SIGINT (signals intelligence) databases, they can enter and get results for anything they want,\" he wrote in the answer posted on the Guardian site. \"Phone number, email, user id, cell phone handset id (IMEI), and so on — it's all the same.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The NSA did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment. But Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has said that the kind of data that can be accessed and who can access it are severely limited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden said the restrictions on what could be seen by an individual analyst vary according to policy changes, which can happen \"at any time,\" and said that a technical \"filter\" on NSA data-gathering meant to filter out U.S. communications is \"weak,\" such that U.S. communications often get ingested.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The former contractor also added that NSA provides Congress \"with a special immunity to its surveillance,\" without explaining further.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden defended U.S. Army Pfc. Bradley Manning for his disclosures of documents to Wikileaks, which he called a \"legitimate journalistic outlet,\" which \"carefully redacted all of their releases in accordance with a judgment of public interest.\" He said the Wikileaks release of unredacted material was \"due to the failure of a partner journalist to control a passphrase,\" which led to the charge against Manning that he dumped the documents, which Snowden called an attempt to smear Manning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Manning is currently on trial at Fort Meade — the same Army base where the NSA is headquartered — on charges of aiding the enemy for releasing documents to Wikileaks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Snowden defended his description of his salary as being $200,000 a year, calling that a \"career high,\" but saying he did take a pay cut to take the job at Booz Allen Hamilton, where he worked as a contractor at an NSA facility in Hawaii. When Booz Allen fired him, they said his salary was $122,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one of his final replies, Snowden attacked the \"mainstream media\" for its coverage, saying it \"now seems far more interested in what I said when I was 17 or what my girlfriend looks like rather than, say, the largest program of suspicion-less surveillance in human history.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/100100/video-daniel-ellsberg-talks-edward-snowden-nsa-leaks","authors":["80"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_656","news_4492","news_4481","news_2125"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_99603":{"type":"posts","id":"news_99603","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"99603","score":null,"sort":[1371080997000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"mozilla-privacy-officer-nsa-data-collection-could-erode-viability-of-web-companies","title":"Bay Area Web Companies Unite Against Government's 'Stunning Abuse of Basic Rights'","publishDate":1371080997,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_99672\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-99672\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg-300x240.jpg\" alt=\"NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Md. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the wake of revelations about the National Security Agency indiscriminately collecting data related to U.S. citizens' phone calls, as well as information about the Internet activity of foreign citizens, a consortium of tech companies and privacy watchdog groups is calling on Congress to put a stop to the programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group, called \u003ca href=\"https://www.stopwatching.us/?r=eff\" target=\"_blank\">Stop Watching Us\u003c/a>, includes Mozilla, Reddit and the Electronic Frontier Foundation, all based in the Bay Area. It says that the \"revelations, if true, represent a stunning abuse of our basic rights.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group is calling for citizens to sign a letter to Congress asking it \"to take immediate action to halt this surveillance and provide a full public accounting of the NSA's and the FBI's data collection programs.\" It's also calling for the Patriot Act and other national security statutes to be reformed so that they cannot be interpreted to allow this type of blanket monitoring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, Web giants Google, Twitter, Facebook and Microsoft \u003ca href=\"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/microsoft-twitter-rivals-nsa-requests?guni=Network%20front:network-front%20aux-1%20top-stories-1:Bento%20box%208%20col:Position1:sublinks\" target=\"_blank\">have \u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/microsoft-twitter-rivals-nsa-requests?guni=Network%20front:network-front%20aux-1%20top-stories-1:Bento%20box%208%20col:Position1:sublinks\" target=\"_blank\">asked the government\u003c/a> for permission to reveal more about the classified requests for user data sanctioned under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED's Stephanie Martin spoke Tuesday with Alex Fowler, who helped spearhead the Stop Watching Us initiative. Fowler is the chief privacy officer of Mozilla, a nonprofit organization that created the popular Firefox Web browser. Here's an edited transcript of the interview:\u003cbr>\n\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>STEPHANIE MARTIN: This coalition came together within a matter of days ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>MOZILLA'S ALEX FOWLER: Many of us were in New York City attending a conference that brings together all of the nation’s leading digital activists and campaigners, and the news started breaking about the leaks and the NSA programs. And literally many of the groups there ran for the hallways and we really just didn’t stop until we launched it.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">\u003cstrong>If users can’t trust that these organizations can be accountable for the information they share ... I think we see a tremendous erosion in the viability of some of these businesses.\u003c/strong>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>STEPHANIE MARTIN: President Obama says he’s comfortable with the balance that the government is striking between privacy and security, and a \u003ca href=\"http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-tracking-as-acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/\" target=\"_blank\">Pew survey\u003c/a> this week found that the majority of Americans are basically OK with the government tracking their phone records if it protects their security. How convinced are you that you can galvanize people around this issue in this post-9/11 era?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ALEX FOWLER: I don’t think we really have a clear view of where the public is on this yet. The numbers are quite close, and the number that’s being cited as a majority is really focused on the part about surveillance of telephone conversations. But a majority of those who were polled said they are not comfortable with their online communications being monitored. I think when people learn the facts they will be outraged, and this is not something that they’re going to be comfortable with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>STEPHANIE MARTIN: Earlier we spoke with a former SEC official who said there’s a great deal of tension between tech companies' business models, their public personas and their legal obligations ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ALEX FOWLER: These companies are being pulled in three directions. And therefore whenever they make statements, or their executives make statements, it’s difficult to try and walk that fine line between all three of those.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think that they’re doing the best they can with a difficult situation in terms of what they're allowed to say. However, the very social contract that our tech firms are based on is really one of sharing information. To my mind, the threats of electronic surveillance go right to the heart of that contract, and if users can’t trust that these organizations can be accountable for the information they share with these organizations, then I think we see a tremendous erosion in trust and actually of the viability of some of these businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, the director of the National Security Agency, Gen. Keith Alexander, defended the surveillance programs in front of the Senate Appropriations Committee. He told the panel that the information collected from the program had helped prevent \"dozens\" of terrorist attacks.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1399488778,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":715},"headData":{"title":"Bay Area Web Companies Unite Against Government's 'Stunning Abuse of Basic Rights' | KQED","description":"In the wake of revelations about the National Security Agency indiscriminately collecting data related to U.S. citizens' phone calls, as well as information about the Internet activity of foreign citizens, a consortium of tech companies and privacy watchdog groups is calling on Congress to put a stop to the programs. The group, called Stop Watching","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Bay Area Web Companies Unite Against Government's 'Stunning Abuse of Basic Rights'","datePublished":"2013-06-12T23:49:57.000Z","dateModified":"2014-05-07T18:52:58.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"99603 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=99603","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/06/12/mozilla-privacy-officer-nsa-data-collection-could-erode-viability-of-web-companies/","disqusTitle":"Bay Area Web Companies Unite Against Government's 'Stunning Abuse of Basic Rights'","customPermalink":"2013/06/12/NSA/","path":"/news/99603/mozilla-privacy-officer-nsa-data-collection-could-erode-viability-of-web-companies","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_99672\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-99672\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/06/NSA.jpg-300x240.jpg\" alt=\"NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. (NSA vis Getty Images)\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Md. (NSA vis Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the wake of revelations about the National Security Agency indiscriminately collecting data related to U.S. citizens' phone calls, as well as information about the Internet activity of foreign citizens, a consortium of tech companies and privacy watchdog groups is calling on Congress to put a stop to the programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group, called \u003ca href=\"https://www.stopwatching.us/?r=eff\" target=\"_blank\">Stop Watching Us\u003c/a>, includes Mozilla, Reddit and the Electronic Frontier Foundation, all based in the Bay Area. It says that the \"revelations, if true, represent a stunning abuse of our basic rights.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group is calling for citizens to sign a letter to Congress asking it \"to take immediate action to halt this surveillance and provide a full public accounting of the NSA's and the FBI's data collection programs.\" It's also calling for the Patriot Act and other national security statutes to be reformed so that they cannot be interpreted to allow this type of blanket monitoring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, Web giants Google, Twitter, Facebook and Microsoft \u003ca href=\"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/microsoft-twitter-rivals-nsa-requests?guni=Network%20front:network-front%20aux-1%20top-stories-1:Bento%20box%208%20col:Position1:sublinks\" target=\"_blank\">have \u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/microsoft-twitter-rivals-nsa-requests?guni=Network%20front:network-front%20aux-1%20top-stories-1:Bento%20box%208%20col:Position1:sublinks\" target=\"_blank\">asked the government\u003c/a> for permission to reveal more about the classified requests for user data sanctioned under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED's Stephanie Martin spoke Tuesday with Alex Fowler, who helped spearhead the Stop Watching Us initiative. 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