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Fiore has received two awards for his work in new media from the National Cartoonists Society (2001, 2002), and in 2006 received The James Madison Freedom of Information Award from The Society of Professional Journalists.","avatar":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fc4e2a612b15b67bad0c6f0e1db4ca9b?s=600&d=blank&r=g","twitter":"MarkFiore","facebook":null,"instagram":"https://www.instagram.com/markfiore/?hl=en","linkedin":null,"sites":[{"site":"arts","roles":["contributor"]},{"site":"news","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"futureofyou","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"science","roles":["editor"]}],"headData":{"title":"Mark Fiore | KQED","description":"KQED News 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or convicted of serious crimes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But don't worry, I'm sure\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11797878/zero-tolerance-an-ongoing-history-of-family-separations-at-the-u-s-mexico-border\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> this administration\u003c/a> would never use the collected information for nefarious purposes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Under a Trump administration pilot program, U.S. Border Patrol agents are collecting DNA from migrants and entering it into a criminal database.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1581444481,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":5,"wordCount":88},"headData":{"title":"Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, Their DNA Yearning to be Collected ... | KQED","description":"Under a Trump administration pilot program, U.S. Border Patrol agents are collecting DNA from migrants and entering it into a criminal database.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, Their DNA Yearning to be Collected ...","datePublished":"2020-02-11T05:16:02.000Z","dateModified":"2020-02-11T18:08:01.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11800987 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11800987","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/02/10/give-me-your-tired-your-poor-their-dna-yearning-to-be-collected/","disqusTitle":"Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, Their DNA Yearning to be Collected 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Clara Solved with DNA Database","publishDate":1542846454,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Northern California authorities said Wednesday that they have cracked a 45-year-old murder case using the same publicly available DNA database that led to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441049/investigator-says-free-dna-matching-site-used-to-catch-golden-state-killer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the arrest of alleged Golden State Killer Joseph DeAngelo\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officers arrested John Arthur Getreu, 74, on suspicion of killing a 21-year-old Palo Alto woman in 1973, said Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office spokesman Richard Glennon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators were led to Getreu after recently submitting DNA evidence to the Virginia-based DNA technology company Parabon NanoLab, which uses the public genealogical database GEDmatch to generate a number of family trees connected to the sample.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two scientists launched the database in 2010 to help amateur and professional genealogical researchers. The database doesn't collect DNA samples directly; instead it aggregates results from commercial sites like 23andMe submitted by users. Researchers upload their DNA samples to GEDmatch in search of matches, which usually come in the form of several family trees rather than one individual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A growing number of investigators across the country are turning to the GED database for help after the FBI's national DNA database fails to find a match. DeAngelo was the first suspect arrested using the company's database in September. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11664637/suspected-golden-state-killer-a-former-police-officer-arrested-in-sacramento\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">DeAngelo has been charged with raping and killing 13 women decades ago\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Police arrested Getreu on Tuesday at his Hayward, California, home. He is suspected of killing Leslie Marie Perlov in February 1973.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perlov's body was found under an oak tree near Stanford University, and her pantyhose were stuffed in her mouth. She had been strangled and the case went unsolved for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators taking another look at the case in July found an unknown man's DNA among the evidence. They sent the DNA sample and returned with several possible families to investigate, which ultimately led them to Getreu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He is being held in the Santa Clara County jail with no bail. Jail records don't indicate if he's represented by an attorney.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Authorities used the same publicly available DNA database that led to the arrest of the alleged Golden State Killer.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1542851888,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":11,"wordCount":328},"headData":{"title":"Cold Case Murder in Santa Clara Solved with DNA Database | KQED","description":"Authorities used the same publicly available DNA database that led to the arrest of the alleged Golden State Killer.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Cold Case Murder in Santa Clara Solved with DNA Database","datePublished":"2018-11-22T00:27:34.000Z","dateModified":"2018-11-22T01:58:08.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11707887 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11707887","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/11/21/cold-case-murder-solved-with-dna-database/","disqusTitle":"Cold Case Murder in Santa Clara Solved with DNA Database","source":"Associated Press","nprByline":"Paul Elias\u003cbr>\u003cstrong>Associated Press\u003c/strong>","path":"/news/11707887/cold-case-murder-solved-with-dna-database","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Northern California authorities said Wednesday that they have cracked a 45-year-old murder case using the same publicly available DNA database that led to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441049/investigator-says-free-dna-matching-site-used-to-catch-golden-state-killer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the arrest of alleged Golden State Killer Joseph DeAngelo\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officers arrested John Arthur Getreu, 74, on suspicion of killing a 21-year-old Palo Alto woman in 1973, said Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office spokesman Richard Glennon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators were led to Getreu after recently submitting DNA evidence to the Virginia-based DNA technology company Parabon NanoLab, which uses the public genealogical database GEDmatch to generate a number of family trees connected to the sample.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two scientists launched the database in 2010 to help amateur and professional genealogical researchers. The database doesn't collect DNA samples directly; instead it aggregates results from commercial sites like 23andMe submitted by users. Researchers upload their DNA samples to GEDmatch in search of matches, which usually come in the form of several family trees rather than one individual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A growing number of investigators across the country are turning to the GED database for help after the FBI's national DNA database fails to find a match. DeAngelo was the first suspect arrested using the company's database in September. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11664637/suspected-golden-state-killer-a-former-police-officer-arrested-in-sacramento\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">DeAngelo has been charged with raping and killing 13 women decades ago\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Police arrested Getreu on Tuesday at his Hayward, California, home. He is suspected of killing Leslie Marie Perlov in February 1973.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perlov's body was found under an oak tree near Stanford University, and her pantyhose were stuffed in her mouth. She had been strangled and the case went unsolved for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators taking another look at the case in July found an unknown man's DNA among the evidence. They sent the DNA sample and returned with several possible families to investigate, which ultimately led them to Getreu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He is being held in the Santa Clara County jail with no bail. Jail records don't indicate if he's represented by an attorney.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11707887/cold-case-murder-solved-with-dna-database","authors":["byline_news_11707887"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_2331","news_23080"],"featImg":"news_11707893","label":"source_news_11707887"},"news_11705963":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11705963","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11705963","score":null,"sort":[1542421854000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"do-you-really-want-to-know-one-mans-search-for-family-from-jonestown-and-beyond","title":"Do You Really Want to Know? One Man's Search for Family From Jonestown and Beyond","publishDate":1542421854,"format":"image","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>For several years now on Nov. 18, Robert Spencer has visited the \u003ca href=\"https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/jonestown-memorial\">Jonestown Memorial\u003c/a> at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. He plans to go again this month — on the 40th anniversary of the massacre that took more than 900 lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert didn’t personally know anyone who died in the mass killing in 1978, but he was connected. And that connection and where it would lead became his life’s mission in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of the men, women and children who perished at Jonestown were from the San Francisco Bay Area. They were members of the Peoples Temple, led by Jim Jones, a charismatic white man who preached racial equality and socialism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706995\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11706995 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"1057\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-1020x678.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-1200x798.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Housing Commissioner Jim Jones at an anti-eviction rally at the I-Hotel at 848 Kearny St. in Manilatown, Sunday, Jan. 16, 1977. Jones was the leader of Peoples Temple. More than 900 members of the church perished after Jones ordered them to drink cyanide-laced punch. \u003ccite>(Nancy Wong/Wikimedia)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Temple was headquartered in San Francisco, but Jones had come under increased scrutiny by the media there. In 1977 he pulled up stakes and took his followers to the South American jungles of Guyana, a multiracial country where he planned to build what he called a \"rainbow utopia.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Jones, a master manipulator, had become increasingly paranoid and unhinged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The day of the massacre, some Temple members ambushed California congressman Leo Ryan, who had gone to Guyana to investigate the group and whether some followers were being held against their will.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ryan -- along with three members of the news media and one Jonestown defector -- were killed. Rep. Jackie Speier, then an aide to Ryan, was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11706669/congresswoman-jackie-speier-on-surviving-jonestown-and-fighting-back-from-personal-and-political-losses\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">shot five times\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That same day, Jones orchestrated what he called an act of “revolutionary suicide,” ordering his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in the Bay Area, as this tragedy was still unfolding on the television news, Robert’s adoptive parents in Hayward told him his birth mother was among the dead. He was just 10 years old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11707044\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11707044\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"895\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Jonestown memorial at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. \u003ccite>(J.P. Dobrin/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>His birth mother’s name was Agnes Bishop Jones, and she was the eldest adopted child of Jim Jones and his wife, Marceline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if that wasn’t enough to lay on a kid, it turned out Agnes also had four other children, all of whom died with their mom in Jonestown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sitting in his home in Martinez, California, Robert still chokes up looking back at that time and the family he never knew. “The news is they’re dead. You’ll never see them. That was the end of that family line.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705830\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 310px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11705830\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"310\" height=\"391\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic.jpg 310w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic-160x202.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 310px) 100vw, 310px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Agnes with three of her children: Stephanie, Jimbo (left) and Billy. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Robert is 50 years old. He’s a park ranger in the San Francisco Bay Area, and a firefighter in the summer. He also volunteers at his church and labor union. He’s a helper -- the kind of guy who will go out of his way to change a stranger’s flat tire. “Maybe that's just a family trait, being helpful,” Robert wonders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For years, Robert shut the door on his family connection to Jonestown and got on with his life. But as his own children were growing up, he became consumed by questions about why he’s helpful, why he’s tall, why his skin is olive and why his eyes are clear-blue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He didn’t want to replace his adoptive parents, who he says loved and raised him. But he says there was “something about that biological connection” that he was desperate to experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wanted to know more about his mother, Agnes, and about her life in the Temple. One big question that nagged him: Why wasn’t he with her and his siblings on that fateful day?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I knew she was dead and I was just trying to connect with someone to say, 'Hey, not all was lost in 1978. You know, I made it at least.' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705778\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2592px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11705778\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2592\" height=\"1944\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2.jpg 2592w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2592px) 100vw, 2592px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robert Spencer at the Basin Fire, Los Padres National Forest, 2008. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Blood is a strange thing. It’s thicker than water for some people and totally overrated for others. The fact that both Agnes and Robert were adopted made searching for blood relatives that much harder, “Who’s family and who’s not?\" he asks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He knew from the internet some basic facts: Agnes was the oldest of eight children adopted by the Joneses. She was married three times. She was 25 years old when she had Robert and 35 years old when she died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, a few years ago, Robert reached out to someone as close to Jonestown as he could get: the only biological child of Jim and Marceline Jones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His name is Stephan Jones. He’s a tall, thin man with intense green eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan survived the 1978 tragedy because he was on the other side of the small South American country playing basketball when his father’s suicide order came down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was 19 years old at the time and had spent his entire life in the Temple.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an interview in San Rafael, Stephan, now 59 years old, explains that even though Agnes was technically his sister, he didn’t really know her. She was 16 years older. “I don’t remember ever living under the same roof,” Stephan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan does recall that Agnes didn’t spend a lot of time with her children in the Temple. That could be because the Temple was based on a communal model and the family unit was discouraged. Stephan also notes the “family” was seen as a \"threat\" to his father Jim Jones’ authority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706996\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11706996\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"845\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-160x85.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-800x425.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-1020x542.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-1200x638.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign for the Peoples Temple in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(DocSpot/YouTube)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When Robert first emailed Stephan looking for information about Agnes, Stephan thought Robert’s story was plausible. He told him that Agnes came and left the Temple more than anybody he can remember. In retrospect, Stephan says her comings and goings were highly unusual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a tragic irony that they all died down there, 'cause I never really felt she was part of the Temple,” says Stephan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Virtually everyone in Jonestown died that day, including Stephan’s parents, one of his brothers, and Agnes, whom he remembers as a “lovely woman ... with a Southern-Midwestern twang.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan wanted to help Robert, in part because he feels an “obligation to be helpful when things connect to my history and my family.” But Stephan can also be wary of people wanting to make some connection to the Temple and Jonestown. People might be looking for a sense of belonging or perhaps trying to heal some deep trauma of their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked if he thought it strange for Robert to show up out of the blue claiming to be Agnes’ son, Stephan howls with laughter:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You got to remember where I come from. Nothing seems strange as far as human behavior.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two finally met in person in 2014 at a reunion of Jonestown survivors, friends and families in San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People there began asking questions about Robert’s claim that Agnes had put him up for adoption. They believed him, but it raised a red flag because Temple members didn’t put their children up for adoption to outsiders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706994\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11706994 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"898\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-800x452.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-1020x576.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-1200x678.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">In 1977, members of the Peoples Temple moved to the South American jungles of Guyana. The leader of the group, Jim Jones, promised a \"rainbow utopia.\" On Nov. 18, 1978, more than 900 people died after Jones ordered them to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Stephan says some at the reunion began to speculate that perhaps Jim Jones was Robert’s biological father and he just wanted to “make that go away\" by putting him up for adoption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some also commented that Stephan and Robert kind of looked alike. They were both thin at the time, they had a similar skin tone, and they had intense eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert also began wondering if Jim Jones might be his biological father and asked Stephan if he would take a DNA test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the idea that Jim Jones might be Robert’s father is pretty creepy on a few levels. For one thing, it would mean Agnes might have been molested by her adoptive father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The genetic test raised a big question for Robert -- one that Stephan asked him point-blank: “Do you really want to know that Jim Jones is your dad? Do you want to know that?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan was also concerned that Robert might be looking for a family connection that he couldn’t necessarily provide. Stephan was raised in the Temple and thrown together with eight adopted siblings of different backgrounds. He had no history with Robert and told him that if they did share the same father, it “changes nothing for me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://youtu.be/qHB31AVTK9I\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite his concerns, Stephan didn’t want to be the one person standing in the way of something so important to Robert. And so Stephan agreed to take the DNA test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It took a long time to get the result, but there was a sense of relief for Robert when it came back negative. “That would have been horrible news to find out that Jim Jones is your father,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Stephan, the actual biological son of Jim Jones, the DNA test was an end in itself. He moved on. He had his own family to think about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert admits there was a slight disappointment with the test result. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Man, I thought I may have got a brother, and that was not the case after all.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert was incredibly frustrated. He’d been searching off and on for a decade for a living blood relative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the next few years, he kept up the search. While he was working his day job as a park ranger near Oakland, and fighting wildfires around the state, he was sending off his DNA to various websites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert’s luck was about to turn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This past summer, as he was running between blazes, he found a genetic match with a man named Harmony LaBeff, a 37-year-old pastor in Chicago. The two couldn’t quite figure out how they might be related.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this stage, Robert also had a DNA match with a distant cousin, who was a whiz at genealogy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a lot of online sleuthing, she thought she had found a close relative of Robert's. Not of his birth mother, Agnes, but the man who crossed paths with her back in 1967.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harmony LaBeff’s grandfather, Thomas LaBeff, was born in Smackover, Arkansas, in 1935. He now lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most people don't know Thomas by his birth name. Columbia Records changed it when he began performing decades ago.\u003ca href=\"http://www.sleepylabeef.com/\"> Sleepy LaBeef’s\u003c/a> numerous album covers feature a tall man with slightly sleepy eyes, which is where he got his first name \"because I looked like I was about half-awake most of the time,\" he explains with a chuckle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705831\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11705831\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-800x490.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"490\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-800x490.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-160x98.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1020x624.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1200x734.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1920x1175.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sleepy LaBeef memorabilia, displayed on a coffee table in his living room in Fayetteville. \u003ccite>(Daniel Caruth/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sleepy LaBeef has been playing a rich mix of American roots music -- blues, country and rockabilly -- for more than six decades. At 83 years old, he still commands a stage with his rich baritone and guitar playing. In fact, he’s got a concert lined up in Ohio in December.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sleepy is considered a musical icon to his fans, many of whom say he never quite got the recognition he deserved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may be one reason Robert had never heard of Sleepy prior to getting the DNA match with Sleepy’s grandson. Sleepy and his family had never heard of Robert, until this past August when he left a phone message saying he might be related to Sleepy. Sleepy’s wife, Linda, says she “didn’t give it a high priority,\" assuming it was a distant cousin of Sleepy's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since Robert was not getting a return phone call, he put his firefighting duties aside, and jumped on a plane to Fayetteville for the ultimate cold call.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706087\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2848px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11706087\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2848\" height=\"4272\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015.jpg 2848w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-800x1200.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-1020x1530.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-1920x2880.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2848px) 100vw, 2848px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sleepy LaBeef with Dave Pomeroy in the background. Richmond Folk Festival, 2012. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Dave Pomeroy)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Upon landing, Robert called Sleepy again and the two agreed to meet at a coffee shop. Robert, not knowing what to expect, arrived early and asked for a more private table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it turned out it wasn’t just Sleepy coming. His whole family arrived: his wife, their kids and their grandchildren.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Linda says she picked Robert out instantly at the restaurant because of his strong physical resemblance to Sleepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert’s eyes and smile were the giveaway for Jesse, Linda and Sleepy’s oldest daughter. “He pretty much looks like a younger version of my dad,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert didn’t see the resemblance. Of course, he was staring across the table at an 83-year-old man. But from the moment they all met, they describe an instant connection, almost spiritual. “He was family,” says Linda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705779\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705779 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robert Spencer and his father, Sleepy LaBeef, at the lab in Fayetteville taking the DNA test in August 2018. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The two decided to take a DNA test to confirm they were related. But Linda describes their bond as so strong with Robert that even if there was no DNA match, they’d still want him as part of their family. Yet everyone agreed a test was still needed, if only to give Robert a sense of validation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert and Sleepy went to a lab in Fayetteville and took the test. Robert didn’t get the result until he returned to California: 99.99 percent probability that Sleepy is Robert’s biological father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert had yet to really raise the subject of Agnes with Sleepy. The DNA confirmation gave him hope that his father could provide some insights into his birth mother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705833\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705833 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-800x864.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"864\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-800x864.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-160x173.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1020x1102.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1111x1200.jpg 1111w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1920x2074.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Linda LaBeef and Robert Spencer in the LaBeef kitchen in Fayetteville, Arkansas, in 2018. \u003ccite>(Daniel Caruth/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Within three weeks, Robert jumped on a plane again for a 10-day visit to Arkansas. He threw himself into the family’s daily routine, helping shuttle grandkids to various activities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the evening, he’d bend over photo albums tracking the family and Sleepy’s musical life on the road, trying to digest decades of lost history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this early stage in their relationship, Robert had already begun calling Sleepy and Linda \"Dad\" and \"Mom.\" The three daughters are calling him their brother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard not to be struck by how fast the new relationship is moving. They have no shared memories, holidays or dramas—all the wonderful and messy stuff that defines family for so many.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sleepy, who has a large family of half-siblings, says he’s not surprised things are working out. “There’s always room for more,” he chuckles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert had finally found the family he’d been searching for, and along the way he also found some answers: His olive skin is from his mother and his tall build and blue eyes are from his dad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Sleepy couldn't provide any insights into Agnes. The details of how Sleepy met his birth mother back in the 1960s are pretty fuzzy. Sleepy says he likely met Agnes at a Nashville club, possibly Tootsie's Orchid Lounge or the Honey Club. Fans would come backstage to meet the musicians and “sometimes we were not as responsible as we should have been ... and so things happened,” says Sleepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 10 years after things \"\u003cem>happened\u003c/em>\" between Sleepy and Agnes, she and her four children would die in Jonestown. Her body was buried in Indiana, where she was born. The unclaimed bodies of her children -- Robert’s siblings -- were placed in a mass grave in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just four days before the tragedy, Sleepy and Linda got married in Texas. They watched the news in horror with the rest of the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And Robert escaped that,” says Sleepy. “So that was a blessing that he missed it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So many things Robert has wanted to know about his birth mother are buried in Jonestown. But he seems at peace, concluding he's a product of the times: a \"rock 'n' roll baby.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some families are joined at the hip and some try desperately to get away from each other. Robert Spencer sought out complete strangers and got lucky with a DNA match and acceptance. But even his new Arkansas family will require some navigating. “I'm a Democrat, they're Republicans. And so we're different.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert doesn’t seem concerned about this red-blue divide. Or that they’re Pentecostal and he’s not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He is already planning to return to Fayetteville for Thanksgiving, when the extended family is set to welcome him and his family into the fold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert says it will be a fitting holiday since he has so much to be thankful for: his adoptive parents for raising him in a loving home, for Stephan Jones for helping him in his long search, and for his new family in Arkansas for embracing him so unconditionally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, of course, he's thankful for Agnes for giving birth to him in the first place, and then letting him go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Forty years ago, preacher Jim Jones ordered hundreds of his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch. 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One Man's Search for Family From Jonestown and Beyond","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2019/01/JonestownFinal.mp3","audioTrackLength":1725,"path":"/news/11705963/do-you-really-want-to-know-one-mans-search-for-family-from-jonestown-and-beyond","audioDuration":1735000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>For several years now on Nov. 18, Robert Spencer has visited the \u003ca href=\"https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/jonestown-memorial\">Jonestown Memorial\u003c/a> at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. He plans to go again this month — on the 40th anniversary of the massacre that took more than 900 lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert didn’t personally know anyone who died in the mass killing in 1978, but he was connected. And that connection and where it would lead became his life’s mission in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of the men, women and children who perished at Jonestown were from the San Francisco Bay Area. They were members of the Peoples Temple, led by Jim Jones, a charismatic white man who preached racial equality and socialism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706995\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11706995 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"1057\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-1020x678.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jim_Jones_in_front_of_the_International_Hotel-1200x798.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Housing Commissioner Jim Jones at an anti-eviction rally at the I-Hotel at 848 Kearny St. in Manilatown, Sunday, Jan. 16, 1977. Jones was the leader of Peoples Temple. More than 900 members of the church perished after Jones ordered them to drink cyanide-laced punch. \u003ccite>(Nancy Wong/Wikimedia)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Temple was headquartered in San Francisco, but Jones had come under increased scrutiny by the media there. In 1977 he pulled up stakes and took his followers to the South American jungles of Guyana, a multiracial country where he planned to build what he called a \"rainbow utopia.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Jones, a master manipulator, had become increasingly paranoid and unhinged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The day of the massacre, some Temple members ambushed California congressman Leo Ryan, who had gone to Guyana to investigate the group and whether some followers were being held against their will.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ryan -- along with three members of the news media and one Jonestown defector -- were killed. Rep. Jackie Speier, then an aide to Ryan, was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11706669/congresswoman-jackie-speier-on-surviving-jonestown-and-fighting-back-from-personal-and-political-losses\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">shot five times\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That same day, Jones orchestrated what he called an act of “revolutionary suicide,” ordering his followers to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in the Bay Area, as this tragedy was still unfolding on the television news, Robert’s adoptive parents in Hayward told him his birth mother was among the dead. He was just 10 years old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11707044\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11707044\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"895\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/AgnesJones-e1542418480272-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Jonestown memorial at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. \u003ccite>(J.P. Dobrin/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>His birth mother’s name was Agnes Bishop Jones, and she was the eldest adopted child of Jim Jones and his wife, Marceline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if that wasn’t enough to lay on a kid, it turned out Agnes also had four other children, all of whom died with their mom in Jonestown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sitting in his home in Martinez, California, Robert still chokes up looking back at that time and the family he never knew. “The news is they’re dead. You’ll never see them. That was the end of that family line.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705830\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 310px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11705830\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"310\" height=\"391\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic.jpg 310w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Agnes-pic-160x202.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 310px) 100vw, 310px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Agnes with three of her children: Stephanie, Jimbo (left) and Billy. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Robert is 50 years old. He’s a park ranger in the San Francisco Bay Area, and a firefighter in the summer. He also volunteers at his church and labor union. He’s a helper -- the kind of guy who will go out of his way to change a stranger’s flat tire. “Maybe that's just a family trait, being helpful,” Robert wonders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For years, Robert shut the door on his family connection to Jonestown and got on with his life. But as his own children were growing up, he became consumed by questions about why he’s helpful, why he’s tall, why his skin is olive and why his eyes are clear-blue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He didn’t want to replace his adoptive parents, who he says loved and raised him. But he says there was “something about that biological connection” that he was desperate to experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wanted to know more about his mother, Agnes, and about her life in the Temple. One big question that nagged him: Why wasn’t he with her and his siblings on that fateful day?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I knew she was dead and I was just trying to connect with someone to say, 'Hey, not all was lost in 1978. You know, I made it at least.' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705778\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2592px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11705778\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2592\" height=\"1944\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2.jpg 2592w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Basin-Fire-Day-6-168-2-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2592px) 100vw, 2592px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robert Spencer at the Basin Fire, Los Padres National Forest, 2008. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Blood is a strange thing. It’s thicker than water for some people and totally overrated for others. The fact that both Agnes and Robert were adopted made searching for blood relatives that much harder, “Who’s family and who’s not?\" he asks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He knew from the internet some basic facts: Agnes was the oldest of eight children adopted by the Joneses. She was married three times. She was 25 years old when she had Robert and 35 years old when she died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, a few years ago, Robert reached out to someone as close to Jonestown as he could get: the only biological child of Jim and Marceline Jones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His name is Stephan Jones. He’s a tall, thin man with intense green eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan survived the 1978 tragedy because he was on the other side of the small South American country playing basketball when his father’s suicide order came down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was 19 years old at the time and had spent his entire life in the Temple.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an interview in San Rafael, Stephan, now 59 years old, explains that even though Agnes was technically his sister, he didn’t really know her. She was 16 years older. “I don’t remember ever living under the same roof,” Stephan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan does recall that Agnes didn’t spend a lot of time with her children in the Temple. That could be because the Temple was based on a communal model and the family unit was discouraged. Stephan also notes the “family” was seen as a \"threat\" to his father Jim Jones’ authority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706996\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11706996\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"845\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-160x85.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-800x425.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-1020x542.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Peoples-Temple-Sign-1200x638.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign for the Peoples Temple in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(DocSpot/YouTube)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When Robert first emailed Stephan looking for information about Agnes, Stephan thought Robert’s story was plausible. He told him that Agnes came and left the Temple more than anybody he can remember. In retrospect, Stephan says her comings and goings were highly unusual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a tragic irony that they all died down there, 'cause I never really felt she was part of the Temple,” says Stephan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Virtually everyone in Jonestown died that day, including Stephan’s parents, one of his brothers, and Agnes, whom he remembers as a “lovely woman ... with a Southern-Midwestern twang.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan wanted to help Robert, in part because he feels an “obligation to be helpful when things connect to my history and my family.” But Stephan can also be wary of people wanting to make some connection to the Temple and Jonestown. People might be looking for a sense of belonging or perhaps trying to heal some deep trauma of their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked if he thought it strange for Robert to show up out of the blue claiming to be Agnes’ son, Stephan howls with laughter:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You got to remember where I come from. Nothing seems strange as far as human behavior.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two finally met in person in 2014 at a reunion of Jonestown survivors, friends and families in San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People there began asking questions about Robert’s claim that Agnes had put him up for adoption. They believed him, but it raised a red flag because Temple members didn’t put their children up for adoption to outsiders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706994\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1590px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11706994 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1590\" height=\"898\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown.jpg 1590w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-800x452.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-1020x576.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Jonestown-1200x678.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1590px) 100vw, 1590px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">In 1977, members of the Peoples Temple moved to the South American jungles of Guyana. The leader of the group, Jim Jones, promised a \"rainbow utopia.\" On Nov. 18, 1978, more than 900 people died after Jones ordered them to drink cyanide-laced punch.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Stephan says some at the reunion began to speculate that perhaps Jim Jones was Robert’s biological father and he just wanted to “make that go away\" by putting him up for adoption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some also commented that Stephan and Robert kind of looked alike. They were both thin at the time, they had a similar skin tone, and they had intense eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert also began wondering if Jim Jones might be his biological father and asked Stephan if he would take a DNA test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the idea that Jim Jones might be Robert’s father is pretty creepy on a few levels. For one thing, it would mean Agnes might have been molested by her adoptive father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The genetic test raised a big question for Robert -- one that Stephan asked him point-blank: “Do you really want to know that Jim Jones is your dad? Do you want to know that?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephan was also concerned that Robert might be looking for a family connection that he couldn’t necessarily provide. Stephan was raised in the Temple and thrown together with eight adopted siblings of different backgrounds. He had no history with Robert and told him that if they did share the same father, it “changes nothing for me.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/qHB31AVTK9I'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/qHB31AVTK9I'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Despite his concerns, Stephan didn’t want to be the one person standing in the way of something so important to Robert. And so Stephan agreed to take the DNA test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It took a long time to get the result, but there was a sense of relief for Robert when it came back negative. “That would have been horrible news to find out that Jim Jones is your father,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Stephan, the actual biological son of Jim Jones, the DNA test was an end in itself. He moved on. He had his own family to think about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert admits there was a slight disappointment with the test result. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Man, I thought I may have got a brother, and that was not the case after all.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert was incredibly frustrated. He’d been searching off and on for a decade for a living blood relative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the next few years, he kept up the search. While he was working his day job as a park ranger near Oakland, and fighting wildfires around the state, he was sending off his DNA to various websites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert’s luck was about to turn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This past summer, as he was running between blazes, he found a genetic match with a man named Harmony LaBeff, a 37-year-old pastor in Chicago. The two couldn’t quite figure out how they might be related.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this stage, Robert also had a DNA match with a distant cousin, who was a whiz at genealogy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a lot of online sleuthing, she thought she had found a close relative of Robert's. Not of his birth mother, Agnes, but the man who crossed paths with her back in 1967.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harmony LaBeff’s grandfather, Thomas LaBeff, was born in Smackover, Arkansas, in 1935. He now lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most people don't know Thomas by his birth name. Columbia Records changed it when he began performing decades ago.\u003ca href=\"http://www.sleepylabeef.com/\"> Sleepy LaBeef’s\u003c/a> numerous album covers feature a tall man with slightly sleepy eyes, which is where he got his first name \"because I looked like I was about half-awake most of the time,\" he explains with a chuckle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705831\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11705831\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-800x490.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"490\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-800x490.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-160x98.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1020x624.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1200x734.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Memorabilia-1920x1175.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sleepy LaBeef memorabilia, displayed on a coffee table in his living room in Fayetteville. \u003ccite>(Daniel Caruth/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sleepy LaBeef has been playing a rich mix of American roots music -- blues, country and rockabilly -- for more than six decades. At 83 years old, he still commands a stage with his rich baritone and guitar playing. In fact, he’s got a concert lined up in Ohio in December.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sleepy is considered a musical icon to his fans, many of whom say he never quite got the recognition he deserved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may be one reason Robert had never heard of Sleepy prior to getting the DNA match with Sleepy’s grandson. Sleepy and his family had never heard of Robert, until this past August when he left a phone message saying he might be related to Sleepy. Sleepy’s wife, Linda, says she “didn’t give it a high priority,\" assuming it was a distant cousin of Sleepy's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since Robert was not getting a return phone call, he put his firefighting duties aside, and jumped on a plane to Fayetteville for the ultimate cold call.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11706087\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2848px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11706087\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2848\" height=\"4272\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015.jpg 2848w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-800x1200.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-1020x1530.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/SLB-DP-Richmond-Folk-Festival-2015-1920x2880.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2848px) 100vw, 2848px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sleepy LaBeef with Dave Pomeroy in the background. Richmond Folk Festival, 2012. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Dave Pomeroy)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Upon landing, Robert called Sleepy again and the two agreed to meet at a coffee shop. Robert, not knowing what to expect, arrived early and asked for a more private table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it turned out it wasn’t just Sleepy coming. His whole family arrived: his wife, their kids and their grandchildren.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Linda says she picked Robert out instantly at the restaurant because of his strong physical resemblance to Sleepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert’s eyes and smile were the giveaway for Jesse, Linda and Sleepy’s oldest daughter. “He pretty much looks like a younger version of my dad,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert didn’t see the resemblance. Of course, he was staring across the table at an 83-year-old man. But from the moment they all met, they describe an instant connection, almost spiritual. “He was family,” says Linda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705779\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705779 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/sleepy.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robert Spencer and his father, Sleepy LaBeef, at the lab in Fayetteville taking the DNA test in August 2018. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Robert Spencer)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The two decided to take a DNA test to confirm they were related. But Linda describes their bond as so strong with Robert that even if there was no DNA match, they’d still want him as part of their family. Yet everyone agreed a test was still needed, if only to give Robert a sense of validation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert and Sleepy went to a lab in Fayetteville and took the test. Robert didn’t get the result until he returned to California: 99.99 percent probability that Sleepy is Robert’s biological father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert had yet to really raise the subject of Agnes with Sleepy. The DNA confirmation gave him hope that his father could provide some insights into his birth mother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705833\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705833 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-800x864.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"864\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-800x864.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-160x173.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1020x1102.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1111x1200.jpg 1111w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Linda-and-Robert-1920x2074.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Linda LaBeef and Robert Spencer in the LaBeef kitchen in Fayetteville, Arkansas, in 2018. \u003ccite>(Daniel Caruth/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Within three weeks, Robert jumped on a plane again for a 10-day visit to Arkansas. He threw himself into the family’s daily routine, helping shuttle grandkids to various activities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the evening, he’d bend over photo albums tracking the family and Sleepy’s musical life on the road, trying to digest decades of lost history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this early stage in their relationship, Robert had already begun calling Sleepy and Linda \"Dad\" and \"Mom.\" The three daughters are calling him their brother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard not to be struck by how fast the new relationship is moving. They have no shared memories, holidays or dramas—all the wonderful and messy stuff that defines family for so many.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sleepy, who has a large family of half-siblings, says he’s not surprised things are working out. “There’s always room for more,” he chuckles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert had finally found the family he’d been searching for, and along the way he also found some answers: His olive skin is from his mother and his tall build and blue eyes are from his dad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Sleepy couldn't provide any insights into Agnes. The details of how Sleepy met his birth mother back in the 1960s are pretty fuzzy. Sleepy says he likely met Agnes at a Nashville club, possibly Tootsie's Orchid Lounge or the Honey Club. Fans would come backstage to meet the musicians and “sometimes we were not as responsible as we should have been ... and so things happened,” says Sleepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 10 years after things \"\u003cem>happened\u003c/em>\" between Sleepy and Agnes, she and her four children would die in Jonestown. Her body was buried in Indiana, where she was born. The unclaimed bodies of her children -- Robert’s siblings -- were placed in a mass grave in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just four days before the tragedy, Sleepy and Linda got married in Texas. They watched the news in horror with the rest of the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And Robert escaped that,” says Sleepy. “So that was a blessing that he missed it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So many things Robert has wanted to know about his birth mother are buried in Jonestown. But he seems at peace, concluding he's a product of the times: a \"rock 'n' roll baby.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some families are joined at the hip and some try desperately to get away from each other. Robert Spencer sought out complete strangers and got lucky with a DNA match and acceptance. But even his new Arkansas family will require some navigating. “I'm a Democrat, they're Republicans. And so we're different.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert doesn’t seem concerned about this red-blue divide. Or that they’re Pentecostal and he’s not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He is already planning to return to Fayetteville for Thanksgiving, when the extended family is set to welcome him and his family into the fold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert says it will be a fitting holiday since he has so much to be thankful for: his adoptive parents for raising him in a loving home, for Stephan Jones for helping him in his long search, and for his new family in Arkansas for embracing him so unconditionally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, of course, he's thankful for Agnes for giving birth to him in the first place, and then letting him go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11705963/do-you-really-want-to-know-one-mans-search-for-family-from-jonestown-and-beyond","authors":["257"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21690","news_20397","news_2331","news_940","news_938","news_21268","news_22018","news_28234"],"featImg":"news_11707045","label":"news_72"},"news_11693951":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11693951","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11693951","score":null,"sort":[1537568617000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"uc-berkeley-employee-arrested-suspected-of-norcal-rape-series-spanning-15-years","title":"UC Berkeley Employee Arrested, Suspected of NorCal Rape Series Spanning 15 Years","publishDate":1537568617,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>For the second time this year, Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert on Friday announced an arrest in a decades-old cold case broken open by a new frontier in DNA forensic science.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schubert was joined by prosecutors from Contra Costa, Butte, Yolo, Sonoma and Solano counties to discuss the Thursday arrest of 58-year-old Benicia resident Roy Charles Waller, who is suspected of at least 10 home invasions and rapes between 1991 and 2006.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The answer has always been in the DNA,\" Schubert said. \"DNA is the silent witness to the truth. For 27 years, that truth was not known, until now.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waller was linked to DNA evidence collected after rapes in Rohnert Park, Sonoma, Vallejo, Martinez, Woodland, Chico, Davis and Sacramento, according to Sacramento Police Chief Daniel Hahn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the suspect dubbed the \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/NORTHERN-CALIFORNIA-Suspected-rapist-linked-to-2485290.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">NorCal rapist\u003c/a>\" is responsible for \"numerous horrific crimes where he terrorized women in jurisdictions throughout Northern California, typically for hours at a time.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Waller was arrested yesterday in Berkeley as he arrived to work,\" Hahn said. \"The suspect is married and has had the same job for the last 25 years. We have confirmed via DNA that Waller is the suspect in many of these crimes.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/SacPolice/status/1043212674249551872\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>UC Berkeley spokespeople confirmed Waller has been employed as a safety specialist in the school's Environment, Health and Safety office since 1992. He managed safety and training programs \"regarding the use of equipment and machinery including forklifts, aerial lifts\" and other devices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We were shocked today to learn that a campus employee was arrested in connection with a series of rapes that occurred more than a decade ago in several Northern California communities,\" says the university's written statement in response to Waller's arrest. The university said Waller is on \"investigative leave.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"[T]here is no indication that any crimes occurred within the campus community,\" the statement says, citing Sacramento and university law enforcement. \"However UCPD will be reviewing any open sexual assault cases to determine if any might be related.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>'NorCal Rapist' Followed Disturbing Pattern\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The \"NorCal rapist\" suspect followed a chilling pattern in his crimes, according to Sacramento detective Avis Beery, who has worked the case for 12 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He would enter houses, usually late at night,\" Beery said. \"Sometimes the victims would be asleep, sometimes they would be going about their activities in the evening. He would overcome them. He would bind them and then repeatedly sexually assault them. He would ransack their homes, and sometimes he would kidnap the victims and take them to ATMs where he would get money out of their accounts. And other times he would steal personal items from their homes.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rape series began in 1991 with an attack in Rohnert Park, followed by another rape a year later in the city of Sonoma, said Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Brian Staebell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then there was an attack in Vallejo, in Solano County, in 1992.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waller is a suspect in a Halloween 1996 attack in Martinez in Contra Costa County, District Attorney Diana Becton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Ten years after the attack in Contra Costa County, our office filed a John Doe complaint with the specific DNA profile of this same individual,\" Becton said. \"We filed the complaint to preserve the statute of limitations for some of the [12 felony] counts in this case.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/SacPolice/status/1043207767438180353\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schubert said Waller was charged Wednesday with 12 felonies in Sacramento County, some of which include enhancements related to breaking into homes with intent to rape and tying up victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those enhancements open the option for a life sentence and can override the statute of limitations, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The same suspect is believed to have attacked four women in Davis and Woodland in the late 1990s and in 2000, according to Yolo County District Attorney Jeff Reisig.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The suspect in this case was a real-life boogeyman who crept into victims' homes under the cover of darkness and attacked them when they were most vulnerable,\" Reisig said. \"His days of inflicting such terror are over.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>DNA Came From Suspect's Blood After Victim Fought Back\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The \"NorCal rapist\" is also believed to have attacked a woman in Chico in 1997, who fought back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The DNA in our case comes from her stabbing the defendant in the arm,\" Butte County District Attorney Michael Ramsey said. \"And a man that tried to clean up the crime scene was unsuccessful because there was too much blood. He could not cover his sins, his crime, and we owe a great deal to a very, very brave victim.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, Waller is suspected of raping two women in northern Sacramento in 2006. He's expected to be arraigned on charges related to those crimes in Sacramento County Superior Court on Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sacramento County DA Schubert confirmed Waller was connected to the series of crimes in much the same way that criminalists with the Sacramento crime lab identified Joseph James DeAngelo as the \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/golden-state-killer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Golden State Killer\u003c/a>,\" \"East Area Rapist\" and \"Original Night Stalker\" \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11664637/suspected-golden-state-killer-a-former-police-officer-arrested-in-sacramento\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in April\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The link was made through genetic genealogy,\" Schubert said, citing GEDmatch, the open source website for DNA information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Genealogy was done approximately 10 days ago, which led us very quickly to this individual. And within that last 10 days the Police Department has undertaken a massive investigation, which culminated yesterday with his arrest.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Sacramento police arrested Benicia resident Roy Charles Waller, 58, in Berkeley on Thursday, while he was on his way to work.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1537573182,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":901},"headData":{"title":"UC Berkeley Employee Arrested, Suspected of NorCal Rape Series Spanning 15 Years | KQED","description":"Sacramento police arrested Benicia resident Roy Charles Waller, 58, in Berkeley on Thursday, while he was on his way to work.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"UC Berkeley Employee Arrested, Suspected of NorCal Rape Series Spanning 15 Years","datePublished":"2018-09-21T22:23:37.000Z","dateModified":"2018-09-21T23:39:42.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11693951 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11693951","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/09/21/uc-berkeley-employee-arrested-suspected-of-norcal-rape-series-spanning-15-years/","disqusTitle":"UC Berkeley Employee Arrested, Suspected of NorCal Rape Series Spanning 15 Years","path":"/news/11693951/uc-berkeley-employee-arrested-suspected-of-norcal-rape-series-spanning-15-years","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>For the second time this year, Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert on Friday announced an arrest in a decades-old cold case broken open by a new frontier in DNA forensic science.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schubert was joined by prosecutors from Contra Costa, Butte, Yolo, Sonoma and Solano counties to discuss the Thursday arrest of 58-year-old Benicia resident Roy Charles Waller, who is suspected of at least 10 home invasions and rapes between 1991 and 2006.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The answer has always been in the DNA,\" Schubert said. \"DNA is the silent witness to the truth. For 27 years, that truth was not known, until now.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waller was linked to DNA evidence collected after rapes in Rohnert Park, Sonoma, Vallejo, Martinez, Woodland, Chico, Davis and Sacramento, according to Sacramento Police Chief Daniel Hahn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the suspect dubbed the \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/NORTHERN-CALIFORNIA-Suspected-rapist-linked-to-2485290.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">NorCal rapist\u003c/a>\" is responsible for \"numerous horrific crimes where he terrorized women in jurisdictions throughout Northern California, typically for hours at a time.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Waller was arrested yesterday in Berkeley as he arrived to work,\" Hahn said. \"The suspect is married and has had the same job for the last 25 years. We have confirmed via DNA that Waller is the suspect in many of these crimes.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1043212674249551872"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>UC Berkeley spokespeople confirmed Waller has been employed as a safety specialist in the school's Environment, Health and Safety office since 1992. He managed safety and training programs \"regarding the use of equipment and machinery including forklifts, aerial lifts\" and other devices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We were shocked today to learn that a campus employee was arrested in connection with a series of rapes that occurred more than a decade ago in several Northern California communities,\" says the university's written statement in response to Waller's arrest. The university said Waller is on \"investigative leave.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"[T]here is no indication that any crimes occurred within the campus community,\" the statement says, citing Sacramento and university law enforcement. \"However UCPD will be reviewing any open sexual assault cases to determine if any might be related.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>'NorCal Rapist' Followed Disturbing Pattern\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The \"NorCal rapist\" suspect followed a chilling pattern in his crimes, according to Sacramento detective Avis Beery, who has worked the case for 12 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He would enter houses, usually late at night,\" Beery said. \"Sometimes the victims would be asleep, sometimes they would be going about their activities in the evening. He would overcome them. He would bind them and then repeatedly sexually assault them. He would ransack their homes, and sometimes he would kidnap the victims and take them to ATMs where he would get money out of their accounts. And other times he would steal personal items from their homes.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rape series began in 1991 with an attack in Rohnert Park, followed by another rape a year later in the city of Sonoma, said Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Brian Staebell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then there was an attack in Vallejo, in Solano County, in 1992.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waller is a suspect in a Halloween 1996 attack in Martinez in Contra Costa County, District Attorney Diana Becton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Ten years after the attack in Contra Costa County, our office filed a John Doe complaint with the specific DNA profile of this same individual,\" Becton said. \"We filed the complaint to preserve the statute of limitations for some of the [12 felony] counts in this case.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1043207767438180353"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Schubert said Waller was charged Wednesday with 12 felonies in Sacramento County, some of which include enhancements related to breaking into homes with intent to rape and tying up victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those enhancements open the option for a life sentence and can override the statute of limitations, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The same suspect is believed to have attacked four women in Davis and Woodland in the late 1990s and in 2000, according to Yolo County District Attorney Jeff Reisig.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The suspect in this case was a real-life boogeyman who crept into victims' homes under the cover of darkness and attacked them when they were most vulnerable,\" Reisig said. \"His days of inflicting such terror are over.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>DNA Came From Suspect's Blood After Victim Fought Back\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The \"NorCal rapist\" is also believed to have attacked a woman in Chico in 1997, who fought back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The DNA in our case comes from her stabbing the defendant in the arm,\" Butte County District Attorney Michael Ramsey said. \"And a man that tried to clean up the crime scene was unsuccessful because there was too much blood. He could not cover his sins, his crime, and we owe a great deal to a very, very brave victim.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, Waller is suspected of raping two women in northern Sacramento in 2006. He's expected to be arraigned on charges related to those crimes in Sacramento County Superior Court on Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sacramento County DA Schubert confirmed Waller was connected to the series of crimes in much the same way that criminalists with the Sacramento crime lab identified Joseph James DeAngelo as the \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/golden-state-killer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Golden State Killer\u003c/a>,\" \"East Area Rapist\" and \"Original Night Stalker\" \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11664637/suspected-golden-state-killer-a-former-police-officer-arrested-in-sacramento\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in April\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The link was made through genetic genealogy,\" Schubert said, citing GEDmatch, the open source website for DNA information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Genealogy was done approximately 10 days ago, which led us very quickly to this individual. And within that last 10 days the Police Department has undertaken a massive investigation, which culminated yesterday with his arrest.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11693951/uc-berkeley-employee-arrested-suspected-of-norcal-rape-series-spanning-15-years","authors":["3206"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_24179","news_2331","news_19542","news_23081","news_23082","news_22820","news_17041"],"featImg":"news_11694036","label":"news_72"},"futureofyou_443403":{"type":"posts","id":"futureofyou_443403","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"futureofyou","id":"443403","score":null,"sort":[1531854049000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"potential-dna-damage-from-crispr-seriously-underestimated-study-finds","title":"Potential DNA Damage From CRISPR ‘Seriously Underestimated,’ Study Finds","publishDate":1531854049,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Future of You | KQED Science","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>From the earliest days of the CRISPR-Cas9 era, scientists have known that the first step in how it \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/04/04/how-crispr-works-visualized/\">edits genomes\u003c/a> — snipping DNA — creates an unholy mess: Cellular repairmen frantically try to fix the cuts by throwing random chunks of DNA into the breach and deleting other random bits. \u003ca href=\"https://www.nature.com/articles/Nbt.4192\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Research\u003c/a> published on Monday suggests that’s only the tip of a Titanic-sized iceberg: CRISPR-Cas9 can cause significantly greater genetic havoc than experts thought, the study concludes, perhaps enough to threaten the health of patients who would one day receive \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/02/21/crispr-sickle-cell-clinical-trials/\">CRISPR-based therapy\u003c/a>.[contextly_sidebar id=\"y9TqAZzR84fJHw52DmhRAZZb04jkzjxD\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The results come hard on the heels of two \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/06/11/crispr-hurdle-edited-cells-might-cause-cancer/\">studies\u003c/a> that identified a related issue: Some CRISPR’d cells might be missing a key anti-cancer mechanism and therefore be able to initiate tumors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The DNA damage found in the new study included deletions of thousands of DNA bases, including at spots far from the edit. Some of the deletions can silence genes that should be active and activate genes that should be silent, including cancer-causing genes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The DNA chaos that CRISPR unleashes has been “seriously underestimated,” said geneticist Allan Bradley of England’s Wellcome Sanger Institute, who led the study. “This should be a wake-up call.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leading CRISPR companies scrambled to play down the latest threat to what they hope will be a multibillion-dollar business \u003cstrong>— \u003c/strong>and to their stock prices, but investors reacted with alarm. Within the first 20 minutes of when the study was released, the three publicly traded CRISPR companies lost more than $300 million in value, and it was downhill from there: CRISPR Therapeutics ended down 8.6 percent, Editas Medicine fell 7 percent, and Intellia Therapeutics lost nearly 10 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The companies questioned whether the CRISPR-caused DNA damage reported in the new study applied to the kind of cells they’re planning to CRISPR. They emphasized that if genomic scrambling is at all common then it should also be seen in earlier forms of genome-editing such as \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2017/11/30/crispr-talens-gene-editing/\">zinc fingers and TALENs\u003c/a> (but apparently isn’t). And they insisted they’re on the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re not Pollyannaish about this,” said geneticist Tom Barnes, chief innovation officer at Intellia. For its mouse experiments, Intellia analyzes edited genomes for collateral damage both near the editing target and tens of thousands of DNA letters away, he said, but “we have not seen any [cancer-causing] transformation of these cells, even with all the edits we’ve introduced.”[contextly_sidebar id=\"X3REPdHlQY5Hjsf4rQxCF5iuUbyNXJ8K\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, Editas spokeswoman Cristi Barnett said the possibility of genetic chaos from CRISPR is “an interesting topic” that the company “actively examine[s].” The reported DNA havoc, she said, is not “specifically problematic in our work to make CRISPR-based medicines.” CRISPR Therapeutics did not respond to requests for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Academic scientists were less dismissive of the new study, in Nature Biotechnology. One leading CRISPR developer called it “well-done and credible,” “a cautionary note to the [genome-editing] community,” and consistent with other research showing that the DNA cuts that CRISPR makes, called double-stranded breaks, “can induce the types of genomic DNA rearrangements and deletions they report.” He asked not to be identified so as not to jeopardize business relationships with genome-editing companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But just as critics of last month’s studies asked why, if CRISPR’d cells can initiate cancer, no CRISPR’d mice had turned up with tumors, so scientists raised similar questions about the new genomic havoc finding: Why don’t scientists see it when they analyze the DNA of CRISPR’d cells?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You find what you look for,” said Bradley. “No one is looking at the impact [of these DNA changes] on downstream genes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And few studies conduct full-out genome sequencing of CRISPR’d cells. Moreover, scientists typically search for one form of the collateral damage the Sanger study found — deletions of thousands of DNA bases (the double helix’s famous A’s, T’s, C’s, and G’s) — using a standard technique called PCR, which makes millions of DNA copies. But to work, PCR must attach to a “binding site” on DNA; CRISPR sometimes deletes that binding site, said Bradley, whose team used a different technique to analyze the double helix for collateral damage from CRISPR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Sanger scientists didn’t set out to find collateral DNA damage from CRISPR. As they investigated how CRISPR might change gene expression, a “weird thing” showed up, Bradley said: The target DNA was accurately changed, but that set off a chain reaction that engulfed genes far from the target. The scientists therefore changed course.[contextly_sidebar id=\"dkt97iGOrAQULIvrxP1t89Dkl2rYRsky\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When they aimed CRISPR at different targets in mouse embryonic stem cells, mouse blood-making cells, and human retinal cells, “extensive on-target genomic damage [was] a common outcome,” they wrote in their paper. In one case, genomes in about two-thirds of the CRISPR’d cells showed the expected small-scale inadvertent havoc, but 21 percent had DNA deletions of more than 250 bases and up to 6,000 bases long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since therapeutic uses of CRISPR would edit the genomes of billions of cells in, say, a patient’s liver, even rare DNA damage “makes it likely that one or more edited cells … would be endowed with an important [disease-causing] lesion,” the scientists wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nature Biotechnology took a year to publish the paper, after asking Bradley numerous variations of “are you sure?” and “did you consider this?” and asking him to run additional experiments, Bradley said. The results all held up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The one U.S. \u003ca href=\"https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03399448\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">clinical trial\u003c/a> using CRISPR’d cells began recruiting patients this year. It will use CRISPR to make immune cells, removed from patients with any of four types of cancer, attack telltale molecules on the tumor cells’ surface. Asked what genome analysis he plans to do, lead investigator Dr. Edward Stadtmauer of the University of Pennsylvania said, “We are doing extensive testing of the final cellular product as well as the cells within the patient.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The possibility of adverse consequences from CRISPR’d cells has caused some company officials to argue that if, say, their therapy cures a child of a devastating disease, but increases her risk of cancer, that might be an acceptable trade-off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That argument may well prevail. In 2003, however, when a boy in a gene therapy trial in France \u003ca href=\"https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM200301163480314\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">developed leukemia\u003c/a> because the repair gene landed in the wrong place in his genome and activated a cancer-causing gene, it shut down gene therapy development on both sides of the Atlantic for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This\u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/07/16/crispr-potential-dna-damage-underestimated/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> story\u003c/a> was originally published by STAT, an online publication of Boston Globe Media that covers health, medicine, and scientific discovery.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Leading CRISPR companies scrambled to play down the latest threat to what they hope will be a multibillion-dollar business.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1531933835,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":1198},"headData":{"title":"Potential DNA Damage From CRISPR ‘Seriously Underestimated,’ Study Finds | KQED","description":"Leading CRISPR companies scrambled to play down the latest threat to what they hope will be a multibillion-dollar business.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Potential DNA Damage From CRISPR ‘Seriously Underestimated,’ Study Finds","datePublished":"2018-07-17T19:00:49.000Z","dateModified":"2018-07-18T17:10:35.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"443403 https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/?p=443403","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2018/07/17/potential-dna-damage-from-crispr-seriously-underestimated-study-finds/","disqusTitle":"Potential DNA Damage From CRISPR ‘Seriously Underestimated,’ Study Finds","source":"Hope/Hype","nprByline":"Sharon Begley\u003cbr />STAT","path":"/futureofyou/443403/potential-dna-damage-from-crispr-seriously-underestimated-study-finds","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>From the earliest days of the CRISPR-Cas9 era, scientists have known that the first step in how it \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/04/04/how-crispr-works-visualized/\">edits genomes\u003c/a> — snipping DNA — creates an unholy mess: Cellular repairmen frantically try to fix the cuts by throwing random chunks of DNA into the breach and deleting other random bits. \u003ca href=\"https://www.nature.com/articles/Nbt.4192\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Research\u003c/a> published on Monday suggests that’s only the tip of a Titanic-sized iceberg: CRISPR-Cas9 can cause significantly greater genetic havoc than experts thought, the study concludes, perhaps enough to threaten the health of patients who would one day receive \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/02/21/crispr-sickle-cell-clinical-trials/\">CRISPR-based therapy\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The results come hard on the heels of two \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/06/11/crispr-hurdle-edited-cells-might-cause-cancer/\">studies\u003c/a> that identified a related issue: Some CRISPR’d cells might be missing a key anti-cancer mechanism and therefore be able to initiate tumors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The DNA damage found in the new study included deletions of thousands of DNA bases, including at spots far from the edit. Some of the deletions can silence genes that should be active and activate genes that should be silent, including cancer-causing genes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The DNA chaos that CRISPR unleashes has been “seriously underestimated,” said geneticist Allan Bradley of England’s Wellcome Sanger Institute, who led the study. “This should be a wake-up call.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leading CRISPR companies scrambled to play down the latest threat to what they hope will be a multibillion-dollar business \u003cstrong>— \u003c/strong>and to their stock prices, but investors reacted with alarm. Within the first 20 minutes of when the study was released, the three publicly traded CRISPR companies lost more than $300 million in value, and it was downhill from there: CRISPR Therapeutics ended down 8.6 percent, Editas Medicine fell 7 percent, and Intellia Therapeutics lost nearly 10 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The companies questioned whether the CRISPR-caused DNA damage reported in the new study applied to the kind of cells they’re planning to CRISPR. They emphasized that if genomic scrambling is at all common then it should also be seen in earlier forms of genome-editing such as \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2017/11/30/crispr-talens-gene-editing/\">zinc fingers and TALENs\u003c/a> (but apparently isn’t). And they insisted they’re on the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re not Pollyannaish about this,” said geneticist Tom Barnes, chief innovation officer at Intellia. For its mouse experiments, Intellia analyzes edited genomes for collateral damage both near the editing target and tens of thousands of DNA letters away, he said, but “we have not seen any [cancer-causing] transformation of these cells, even with all the edits we’ve introduced.”\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, Editas spokeswoman Cristi Barnett said the possibility of genetic chaos from CRISPR is “an interesting topic” that the company “actively examine[s].” The reported DNA havoc, she said, is not “specifically problematic in our work to make CRISPR-based medicines.” CRISPR Therapeutics did not respond to requests for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Academic scientists were less dismissive of the new study, in Nature Biotechnology. One leading CRISPR developer called it “well-done and credible,” “a cautionary note to the [genome-editing] community,” and consistent with other research showing that the DNA cuts that CRISPR makes, called double-stranded breaks, “can induce the types of genomic DNA rearrangements and deletions they report.” He asked not to be identified so as not to jeopardize business relationships with genome-editing companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But just as critics of last month’s studies asked why, if CRISPR’d cells can initiate cancer, no CRISPR’d mice had turned up with tumors, so scientists raised similar questions about the new genomic havoc finding: Why don’t scientists see it when they analyze the DNA of CRISPR’d cells?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You find what you look for,” said Bradley. “No one is looking at the impact [of these DNA changes] on downstream genes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And few studies conduct full-out genome sequencing of CRISPR’d cells. Moreover, scientists typically search for one form of the collateral damage the Sanger study found — deletions of thousands of DNA bases (the double helix’s famous A’s, T’s, C’s, and G’s) — using a standard technique called PCR, which makes millions of DNA copies. But to work, PCR must attach to a “binding site” on DNA; CRISPR sometimes deletes that binding site, said Bradley, whose team used a different technique to analyze the double helix for collateral damage from CRISPR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Sanger scientists didn’t set out to find collateral DNA damage from CRISPR. As they investigated how CRISPR might change gene expression, a “weird thing” showed up, Bradley said: The target DNA was accurately changed, but that set off a chain reaction that engulfed genes far from the target. The scientists therefore changed course.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When they aimed CRISPR at different targets in mouse embryonic stem cells, mouse blood-making cells, and human retinal cells, “extensive on-target genomic damage [was] a common outcome,” they wrote in their paper. In one case, genomes in about two-thirds of the CRISPR’d cells showed the expected small-scale inadvertent havoc, but 21 percent had DNA deletions of more than 250 bases and up to 6,000 bases long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since therapeutic uses of CRISPR would edit the genomes of billions of cells in, say, a patient’s liver, even rare DNA damage “makes it likely that one or more edited cells … would be endowed with an important [disease-causing] lesion,” the scientists wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nature Biotechnology took a year to publish the paper, after asking Bradley numerous variations of “are you sure?” and “did you consider this?” and asking him to run additional experiments, Bradley said. The results all held up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The one U.S. \u003ca href=\"https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03399448\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">clinical trial\u003c/a> using CRISPR’d cells began recruiting patients this year. It will use CRISPR to make immune cells, removed from patients with any of four types of cancer, attack telltale molecules on the tumor cells’ surface. Asked what genome analysis he plans to do, lead investigator Dr. Edward Stadtmauer of the University of Pennsylvania said, “We are doing extensive testing of the final cellular product as well as the cells within the patient.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The possibility of adverse consequences from CRISPR’d cells has caused some company officials to argue that if, say, their therapy cures a child of a devastating disease, but increases her risk of cancer, that might be an acceptable trade-off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That argument may well prevail. In 2003, however, when a boy in a gene therapy trial in France \u003ca href=\"https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM200301163480314\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">developed leukemia\u003c/a> because the repair gene landed in the wrong place in his genome and activated a cancer-causing gene, it shut down gene therapy development on both sides of the Atlantic for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This\u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/07/16/crispr-potential-dna-damage-underestimated/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> story\u003c/a> was originally published by STAT, an online publication of Boston Globe Media that covers health, medicine, and scientific discovery.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/futureofyou/443403/potential-dna-damage-from-crispr-seriously-underestimated-study-finds","authors":["byline_futureofyou_443403"],"categories":["futureofyou_1062","futureofyou_73"],"tags":["futureofyou_103","futureofyou_94","futureofyou_17","futureofyou_1275","futureofyou_830","futureofyou_61"],"collections":["futureofyou_1097","futureofyou_1094"],"featImg":"futureofyou_443405","label":"source_futureofyou_443403"},"news_11665278":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11665278","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11665278","score":null,"sort":[1524936234000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"earlier-search-for-california-serial-killer-led-to-wrong-man","title":"Earlier Search for California Serial Killer Led to Wrong Man","publishDate":1524936234,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Investigators hunting for the so-called \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11664750/golden-state-killer-suspect-is-arrested-near-sacramento\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Golden State Killer\u003c/a> turned to searching genetic websites in 2017 but misidentified an Oregon man as a potential suspect. A year later, after using a similar technique, they are confident they've caught the serial rapist and killer who eluded capture for four decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In March 2017, an Oregon City police officer, working at the request of investigators in California, convinced a judge to order a 73-year-old man in a nursing home to provide a DNA sample.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Court documents obtained by The Associated Press said detectives used a genetic profile based off DNA from crime scenes linked to the serial killer and compared it to information on a free online genealogical site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators cited a rare genetic marker, which the Oregon man shared with the killer, to get the judge to issue the order. The Oregon City man is in extremely poor health in a rehabilitation facility and was unable to answer questions Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His daughter said his family was not aware that authorities took a DNA sample from him while he was lying in bed at the rehabilitation center until she was contacted by the FBI in April 2017 and asked to help expand the family's genetic tree in the search for suspects.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The woman, an amateur genealogist, cooperated, but ultimately investigators determined none of her relatives were viable suspects, she said. The woman spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because she did not want the family's name publicly linked to the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't like that they thought that my dad was the bad guy, but the truth is they were able to rule out people in my dad's (family) tree,\" she said. \"They didn't have to look at those people anymore.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The family was angry the FBI had not told them about the sample but felt better after reading an AP story that investigators obtained a warrant, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I mean, they go from California to Oregon to get my dad's DNA? They clearly thought he was the bad guy,\" she said. \"I think DNA is amazing and if you've done something wrong you don't deserve to be protected.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ultimately investigators turned to a different genealogical site and arrested a man who they say was one of California's most feared and elusive serial killers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11665280\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/GettyImages-952201694-800x560.jpg\" alt=\"Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected 'Golden State Killer', appears in court for his arraignment on April 27, 2018 in Sacramento.\" width=\"800\" height=\"560\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11665280\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected 'Golden State Killer', appears in court for his arraignment on April 27, 2018 in Sacramento. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On Friday, Joseph James DeAngelo appeared in court to face murder charges. Handcuffed to a wheelchair in orange jail scrubs, the 72 year old looked dazed and spoke in a faint voice to acknowledge he was represented by a public defender. He did not enter a plea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DeAngelo, a former police officer, has been charged with eight counts of murder, and additional charges are expected, authorities said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We have the law to suggest that he is innocent until he's proven guilty,\" said his attorney, Diane Howard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11664637/suspected-golden-state-killer-a-former-police-officer-arrested-in-sacramento\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Investigators arrested DeAngelo\u003c/a> on Tuesday after matching crime-scene DNA with genetic material stored in an online database by a distant relative. They \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441049/investigator-says-free-dna-matching-site-used-to-catch-golden-state-killer\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">relied on a different website\u003c/a> than in the Oregon search, and did not seek a warrant for his DNA. Instead, they waited for him to discard items and swabbed them for DNA, which proved a conclusive match to evidence from crimes more than 30 years ago, they said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The co-founder of the genealogy website used by authorities to help identify DeAngelo said on Friday that he had no idea its database was tapped by law enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The free genealogy website, which pools DNA profiles that people upload and share publicly to find relatives, said it has always informed users its database can be used for other purposes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the site's co-founder, Curtis Rogers, said the search was \"done without our knowledge\" and the company does not \"hand out data.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officials did not need a court order to access GEDmatch's large database of genetic blueprints, lead investigator Paul Holes told the Mercury News in San Jose. Major commercial DNA companies say they do not give law enforcement access to their genetic data without a court order.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But critics warned the method could jeopardize privacy rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"People who submit DNA for ancestors testing are unwittingly becoming genetic informants on their innocent family,\" said Steve Mercer, chief attorney for the forensic division of the Maryland Office of the Public Defender.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It seems crazy to say a police officer investigating a very serious crime can't do something your cousin can do,\" said Erin Murphy, a DNA expert and professor at New York University School of Law. \"If an ordinary person can do this, why can't a cop? On the other hand, if an ordinary person had done this, we might think they shouldn't.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While most consumers would submit DNA to a commercial company such as Ancestry.com and 23andMe to create a genetic profile, the FBI did so for investigators, Holes told The New York Times.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The profile was then uploaded to GEDmatch using a fake profile and pseudonym, the Times reported. The site allows users to remain anonymous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A year earlier, Holes had identified a rare genetic marker in the assailant's DNA. He entered the information among 189,000 profiles at the genealogy website, YSearch.org, and the results led to a relative of the Oregon man.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A spokeswoman for YSearch.org, which is provided by FamilyTreeDNA.com, said the company was not contacted by law enforcement. The company said it takes the privacy of its customers very seriously but supports \"ethically and legally justified uses\" of scientific research in genetics and genealogy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sacramento District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert told AP she was unaware of the Oregon misfire and didn't believe genealogical sites were used before DeAngelo was identified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Balsamo reported from Los Angeles and Flaccus reported from Oregon City, Oregon. Associated Press writers Brian Melley in Los Angeles and Matt O'Brien in Providence, Rhode Island, contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Investigators hunting for the so-called Golden State Killer turned to searching genetic websites in 2017 but misidentified an Oregon man as a potential suspect.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1525123762,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":1020},"headData":{"title":"Earlier Search for California Serial Killer Led to Wrong Man | KQED","description":"Investigators hunting for the so-called Golden State Killer turned to searching genetic websites in 2017 but misidentified an Oregon man as a potential suspect.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Earlier Search for California Serial Killer Led to Wrong Man","datePublished":"2018-04-28T17:23:54.000Z","dateModified":"2018-04-30T21:29:22.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11665278 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11665278","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/04/28/earlier-search-for-california-serial-killer-led-to-wrong-man/","disqusTitle":"Earlier Search for California Serial Killer Led to Wrong Man","source":"Associated Press","nprByline":"\u003cstrong>Michael Balsamo\u003c/strong>, \u003cstrong>Jonathan J. Cooper\u003c/strong> and \u003cstrong>Gillian Flaccus\u003c/br>Associated Press\u003c/strong>","path":"/news/11665278/earlier-search-for-california-serial-killer-led-to-wrong-man","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Investigators hunting for the so-called \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11664750/golden-state-killer-suspect-is-arrested-near-sacramento\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Golden State Killer\u003c/a> turned to searching genetic websites in 2017 but misidentified an Oregon man as a potential suspect. A year later, after using a similar technique, they are confident they've caught the serial rapist and killer who eluded capture for four decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In March 2017, an Oregon City police officer, working at the request of investigators in California, convinced a judge to order a 73-year-old man in a nursing home to provide a DNA sample.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Court documents obtained by The Associated Press said detectives used a genetic profile based off DNA from crime scenes linked to the serial killer and compared it to information on a free online genealogical site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators cited a rare genetic marker, which the Oregon man shared with the killer, to get the judge to issue the order. The Oregon City man is in extremely poor health in a rehabilitation facility and was unable to answer questions Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His daughter said his family was not aware that authorities took a DNA sample from him while he was lying in bed at the rehabilitation center until she was contacted by the FBI in April 2017 and asked to help expand the family's genetic tree in the search for suspects.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The woman, an amateur genealogist, cooperated, but ultimately investigators determined none of her relatives were viable suspects, she said. The woman spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because she did not want the family's name publicly linked to the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't like that they thought that my dad was the bad guy, but the truth is they were able to rule out people in my dad's (family) tree,\" she said. \"They didn't have to look at those people anymore.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The family was angry the FBI had not told them about the sample but felt better after reading an AP story that investigators obtained a warrant, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I mean, they go from California to Oregon to get my dad's DNA? They clearly thought he was the bad guy,\" she said. \"I think DNA is amazing and if you've done something wrong you don't deserve to be protected.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ultimately investigators turned to a different genealogical site and arrested a man who they say was one of California's most feared and elusive serial killers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11665280\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/GettyImages-952201694-800x560.jpg\" alt=\"Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected 'Golden State Killer', appears in court for his arraignment on April 27, 2018 in Sacramento.\" width=\"800\" height=\"560\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11665280\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected 'Golden State Killer', appears in court for his arraignment on April 27, 2018 in Sacramento. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On Friday, Joseph James DeAngelo appeared in court to face murder charges. Handcuffed to a wheelchair in orange jail scrubs, the 72 year old looked dazed and spoke in a faint voice to acknowledge he was represented by a public defender. He did not enter a plea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DeAngelo, a former police officer, has been charged with eight counts of murder, and additional charges are expected, authorities said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We have the law to suggest that he is innocent until he's proven guilty,\" said his attorney, Diane Howard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11664637/suspected-golden-state-killer-a-former-police-officer-arrested-in-sacramento\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Investigators arrested DeAngelo\u003c/a> on Tuesday after matching crime-scene DNA with genetic material stored in an online database by a distant relative. They \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441049/investigator-says-free-dna-matching-site-used-to-catch-golden-state-killer\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">relied on a different website\u003c/a> than in the Oregon search, and did not seek a warrant for his DNA. Instead, they waited for him to discard items and swabbed them for DNA, which proved a conclusive match to evidence from crimes more than 30 years ago, they said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The co-founder of the genealogy website used by authorities to help identify DeAngelo said on Friday that he had no idea its database was tapped by law enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The free genealogy website, which pools DNA profiles that people upload and share publicly to find relatives, said it has always informed users its database can be used for other purposes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the site's co-founder, Curtis Rogers, said the search was \"done without our knowledge\" and the company does not \"hand out data.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officials did not need a court order to access GEDmatch's large database of genetic blueprints, lead investigator Paul Holes told the Mercury News in San Jose. Major commercial DNA companies say they do not give law enforcement access to their genetic data without a court order.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But critics warned the method could jeopardize privacy rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"People who submit DNA for ancestors testing are unwittingly becoming genetic informants on their innocent family,\" said Steve Mercer, chief attorney for the forensic division of the Maryland Office of the Public Defender.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It seems crazy to say a police officer investigating a very serious crime can't do something your cousin can do,\" said Erin Murphy, a DNA expert and professor at New York University School of Law. \"If an ordinary person can do this, why can't a cop? On the other hand, if an ordinary person had done this, we might think they shouldn't.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While most consumers would submit DNA to a commercial company such as Ancestry.com and 23andMe to create a genetic profile, the FBI did so for investigators, Holes told The New York Times.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The profile was then uploaded to GEDmatch using a fake profile and pseudonym, the Times reported. The site allows users to remain anonymous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A year earlier, Holes had identified a rare genetic marker in the assailant's DNA. He entered the information among 189,000 profiles at the genealogy website, YSearch.org, and the results led to a relative of the Oregon man.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A spokeswoman for YSearch.org, which is provided by FamilyTreeDNA.com, said the company was not contacted by law enforcement. The company said it takes the privacy of its customers very seriously but supports \"ethically and legally justified uses\" of scientific research in genetics and genealogy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sacramento District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert told AP she was unaware of the Oregon misfire and didn't believe genealogical sites were used before DeAngelo was identified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Balsamo reported from Los Angeles and Flaccus reported from Oregon City, Oregon. Associated Press writers Brian Melley in Los Angeles and Matt O'Brien in Providence, Rhode Island, contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11665278/earlier-search-for-california-serial-killer-led-to-wrong-man","authors":["byline_news_11665278"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_2331","news_23081","news_95","news_17286"],"featImg":"news_11665279","label":"source_news_11665278"},"futureofyou_441049":{"type":"posts","id":"futureofyou_441049","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"futureofyou","id":"441049","score":null,"sort":[1524843207000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"investigator-says-free-dna-matching-site-used-to-catch-golden-state-killer","title":"Investigator Says Free DNA Matching Site Used to Catch Golden State Killer","publishDate":1524843207,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Future of You | KQED Science","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003ch3>\u003cem>An alleged killer is now in custody. But critics say the familial DNA testing that helped track him down allows for searches of innocent people who happen to be related to someone suspected of committing a crime or otherwise provided their DNA for inclusion in a database.\u003c/em>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>One of the main investigators who helped capture Joseph DeAngelo, the alleged California serial rapist and killer, says his team used a public DNA matching website to track DeAngelo down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The site allows users who have DNA profiles from commercial companies such as Ancestry.com and 23andMe to expand their search for relatives.Lead investigator Paul Holes tells the \u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/26/ancestry-23andme-deny-assisting-law-enforcement-in-east-area-rapist-case/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">San Jose Mercury News\u003c/a> that one of his team's biggest tools in catching DeAngelo, who eluded law enforcement for four decades, was GEDMatch, a free, Florida-based site that pools DNA profiles that people upload and share publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Major companies, such as 23andMe and Ancestry, do not allow law enforcement to access their genetic data unless they get a court order.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Holes says officials did not need a court order to access GEDMatch's large database of genetic blueprints.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Privacy concerns have been raised over investigators' use of a genealogical website to find DeAngelo, who was arrested Tuesday. Investigators say they matched crime-scene DNA using genetic material stored by a distant relative on the site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Authorities say it's an innovative technique that broke open the long-cold case of the Golden State Killer, who slew at least a dozen people and raped 50 women from 1976 to 1986.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Steve Mercer of the Maryland public defender's office says it pinpoints a problem: There aren't strong privacy laws to keep police from trolling such databases.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mercer says right now, people who submit DNA to be tested to find their ancestors can unwittingly become \"genetic informants\" on family members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"People who submit DNA for ancestors testing are unwittingly becoming genetic informants on their innocent family,\" Mercer said, adding that they \"have fewer privacy protections than convicted offenders whose DNA is contained in regulated databanks.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The technique that investigators used is known as familial DNA testing, and it has previously raised ethical issues in the forensics community. Typically with the method, investigators search law enforcement databases to identify likely relatives of the person who may have committed the crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Critics say that familial DNA testing allows for searches of innocent people who happen to be related to someone suspected of committing a crime or otherwise provided their DNA for inclusion in a database. Law enforcement officials have argued the technique can provide investigators with valuable leads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2008, California became the first state in the country to authorize the testing. It since has been used in at least eight other states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The method led to the arrest of Lonnie Franklin Jr. in the Los Angeles \"Grim Sleeper\" serial killings from 1985 to 2007. Los Angeles County sheriff's officials also used it last year to solve the decades-old killing of the ex-wife of Righteous Brothers singer Bill Medley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>DeAngelo Arrest\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Joseph James DeAngelo, 72, was arrested Tuesday. After investigators matched crime-scene \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/7621f268d720428e87eaacf73b2f7d3b/A-look-at-DNA-testing-that-ID%27d-a-suspected-serial-killer\">DNA\u003c/a> with a relative, they narrowed it down to the Sacramento-area grandfather using DNA obtained from material he'd discarded, Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DNA potentially may have played an earlier role in the case. It was just coming into use as a criminal investigative tool in 1986 when the predator variously known as the East Area Rapist and the Golden State Killer apparently ended his decade-long wave of attacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DeAngelo, a former police officer, probably would have known about the new method, experts said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He knew police techniques,\" said John Jay College of Criminal Justice professor Louis Schlesinger. \"He was smart.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No one who knew DeAngelo over the decades connected him with the string of at least a dozen murders, 50 rapes and dozens of burglaries from 1976 to 1986 throughout the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After he was identified as the suspect, however, prosecutors rushed to charge him with eight killings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition, police in the central California farming town of Visalia said Thursday that DeAngelo is a suspect in a 13th killing and about 100 burglaries in the area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1975, of community college teacher Claude Snelling was shot while trying to stop a masked intruder from kidnapping his 16-year-old daughter from his home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators lacked DNA evidence so Snelling's death and the burglaries weren't included in the tally of Golden State Killer crimes but fingerprints and shoe tracks will be reviewed for matches to DeAngelo, Visalia Police Chief Jason Salazar said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators searched DeAngelo's home on Thursday, looking for class rings, earrings, dishes and other items that were taken from crime scenes as well as weapons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, DeAngelo's neighbors, relatives and former acquaintances all say they had no inkling that he could be a serial killer. He worked nearly three decades in a Sacramento-area supermarket warehouse as a truck mechanic, retiring last year. As a neighbor, he was known for taking meticulous care of his lawn in suburban Citrus Heights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DeAngelo worked as a police officer in the farming town of Exeter, not far from Visalia, from 1973 to 1976.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DeAngelo was a \"black sheep\" who didn't joke around with other officers, said Farrel Ward, 75, who served on the force with DeAngelo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ward said it's possible that DeAngelo helped with the search for Snelling's killer and the elusive burglar but he doesn't recall DeAngelo directly investigating the killing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I've been thinking, but there's no indication whatsoever that anything was wrong,\" Ward said. \"How could you just go out and kill somebody and go back and go to work? I don't understand that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Later, DeAngelo joined the Auburn Police Department outside of Sacramento but was fired in 1979 after he was caught shoplifting a hammer and dog repellent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators say they have linked DeAngelo to 11 killings that occurred after he was fired.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>James Huddle said he always hoped police would catch the killer whose attacks prompted him to buy a pistol.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he was stunned to find out the man arrested was DeAngelo, his former brother-in-law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Huddle said it was \"still just going crazy in my mind.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"One of the main investigators who helped capture Joseph DeAngelo, an alleged California serial rapist and killer, says his team used a free DNA matching website to track DeAngelo down.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1535389164,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":36,"wordCount":1059},"headData":{"title":"Investigator Says Free DNA Matching Site Used to Catch Golden State Killer | KQED","description":"One of the main investigators who helped capture Joseph DeAngelo, an alleged California serial rapist and killer, says his team used a free DNA matching website to track DeAngelo down.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Investigator Says Free DNA Matching Site Used to Catch Golden State Killer","datePublished":"2018-04-27T15:33:27.000Z","dateModified":"2018-08-27T16:59:24.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"441049 https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/?p=441049","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2018/04/27/investigator-says-free-dna-matching-site-used-to-catch-golden-state-killer/","disqusTitle":"Investigator Says Free DNA Matching Site Used to Catch Golden State Killer","source":"Your Genes","nprByline":"Michael Balsamo and Jonathan Cooper\u003cbr />Associated Press","path":"/futureofyou/441049/investigator-says-free-dna-matching-site-used-to-catch-golden-state-killer","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003ch3>\u003cem>An alleged killer is now in custody. But critics say the familial DNA testing that helped track him down allows for searches of innocent people who happen to be related to someone suspected of committing a crime or otherwise provided their DNA for inclusion in a database.\u003c/em>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>One of the main investigators who helped capture Joseph DeAngelo, the alleged California serial rapist and killer, says his team used a public DNA matching website to track DeAngelo down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The site allows users who have DNA profiles from commercial companies such as Ancestry.com and 23andMe to expand their search for relatives.Lead investigator Paul Holes tells the \u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/26/ancestry-23andme-deny-assisting-law-enforcement-in-east-area-rapist-case/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">San Jose Mercury News\u003c/a> that one of his team's biggest tools in catching DeAngelo, who eluded law enforcement for four decades, was GEDMatch, a free, Florida-based site that pools DNA profiles that people upload and share publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Major companies, such as 23andMe and Ancestry, do not allow law enforcement to access their genetic data unless they get a court order.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Holes says officials did not need a court order to access GEDMatch's large database of genetic blueprints.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Privacy concerns have been raised over investigators' use of a genealogical website to find DeAngelo, who was arrested Tuesday. Investigators say they matched crime-scene DNA using genetic material stored by a distant relative on the site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Authorities say it's an innovative technique that broke open the long-cold case of the Golden State Killer, who slew at least a dozen people and raped 50 women from 1976 to 1986.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Steve Mercer of the Maryland public defender's office says it pinpoints a problem: There aren't strong privacy laws to keep police from trolling such databases.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mercer says right now, people who submit DNA to be tested to find their ancestors can unwittingly become \"genetic informants\" on family members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"People who submit DNA for ancestors testing are unwittingly becoming genetic informants on their innocent family,\" Mercer said, adding that they \"have fewer privacy protections than convicted offenders whose DNA is contained in regulated databanks.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The technique that investigators used is known as familial DNA testing, and it has previously raised ethical issues in the forensics community. Typically with the method, investigators search law enforcement databases to identify likely relatives of the person who may have committed the crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Critics say that familial DNA testing allows for searches of innocent people who happen to be related to someone suspected of committing a crime or otherwise provided their DNA for inclusion in a database. Law enforcement officials have argued the technique can provide investigators with valuable leads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2008, California became the first state in the country to authorize the testing. It since has been used in at least eight other states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The method led to the arrest of Lonnie Franklin Jr. in the Los Angeles \"Grim Sleeper\" serial killings from 1985 to 2007. Los Angeles County sheriff's officials also used it last year to solve the decades-old killing of the ex-wife of Righteous Brothers singer Bill Medley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>DeAngelo Arrest\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Joseph James DeAngelo, 72, was arrested Tuesday. After investigators matched crime-scene \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/7621f268d720428e87eaacf73b2f7d3b/A-look-at-DNA-testing-that-ID%27d-a-suspected-serial-killer\">DNA\u003c/a> with a relative, they narrowed it down to the Sacramento-area grandfather using DNA obtained from material he'd discarded, Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DNA potentially may have played an earlier role in the case. It was just coming into use as a criminal investigative tool in 1986 when the predator variously known as the East Area Rapist and the Golden State Killer apparently ended his decade-long wave of attacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DeAngelo, a former police officer, probably would have known about the new method, experts said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He knew police techniques,\" said John Jay College of Criminal Justice professor Louis Schlesinger. \"He was smart.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No one who knew DeAngelo over the decades connected him with the string of at least a dozen murders, 50 rapes and dozens of burglaries from 1976 to 1986 throughout the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After he was identified as the suspect, however, prosecutors rushed to charge him with eight killings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition, police in the central California farming town of Visalia said Thursday that DeAngelo is a suspect in a 13th killing and about 100 burglaries in the area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1975, of community college teacher Claude Snelling was shot while trying to stop a masked intruder from kidnapping his 16-year-old daughter from his home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators lacked DNA evidence so Snelling's death and the burglaries weren't included in the tally of Golden State Killer crimes but fingerprints and shoe tracks will be reviewed for matches to DeAngelo, Visalia Police Chief Jason Salazar said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators searched DeAngelo's home on Thursday, looking for class rings, earrings, dishes and other items that were taken from crime scenes as well as weapons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, DeAngelo's neighbors, relatives and former acquaintances all say they had no inkling that he could be a serial killer. He worked nearly three decades in a Sacramento-area supermarket warehouse as a truck mechanic, retiring last year. As a neighbor, he was known for taking meticulous care of his lawn in suburban Citrus Heights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DeAngelo worked as a police officer in the farming town of Exeter, not far from Visalia, from 1973 to 1976.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DeAngelo was a \"black sheep\" who didn't joke around with other officers, said Farrel Ward, 75, who served on the force with DeAngelo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ward said it's possible that DeAngelo helped with the search for Snelling's killer and the elusive burglar but he doesn't recall DeAngelo directly investigating the killing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I've been thinking, but there's no indication whatsoever that anything was wrong,\" Ward said. \"How could you just go out and kill somebody and go back and go to work? 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But the decision left open the possibility of other legal challenges to the DNA law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We recognize that the DNA Act may raise additional constitutional questions that will require resolution in other cases,\" Associate Justice Leondra Kruger wrote for the majority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Buza was suspected of setting a police car on fire in San Francisco but refused to provide a DNA sample after his arrest. He was later convicted of arson and refusal to provide a DNA specimen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A law voters approved in 2004 requires all adults arrested on suspicion of a felony to provide a cheek swab immediately following arrest or during booking. The sample is sent to a state lab for analysis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Critics say the law violates people's privacy by giving law enforcement access to their genetic material even before they are charged or convicted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters say privacy concerns are outweighed by law enforcement's interest in testing DNA to solve cold cases, identify crime suspects and exonerate the wrongly accused.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A lower court ruled in 2014 in Buza's case that the state Constitution's ban on unreasonable search and seizure prohibited collecting DNA by cheek swab without \"independent suspicion, a warrant or even a judicial or grand jury determination of probable cause.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state's 1st District Court of Appeal in a 3-0 decision said the law unreasonably intrudes on the expectation of privacy of people who are arrested.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A 2013 U.S. Supreme Court ruling, however, upheld a similar Maryland DNA collection law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The appeals court said the U.S. Supreme Court decision did not apply in Buza's case in part because of significant differences between Maryland's law and California's law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maryland's law, for example, allows the DNA of suspects to be tested only after they have been charged with a crime. California's law allows testing even before charges are filed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California law also applies to all felony suspects who are arrested regardless of the seriousness of the alleged crime and does not call for the automatic destruction of the DNA sample if the person is cleared.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Supreme Court said Monday that Buza's crime was serious, and he never contested that there was probable cause for his arrest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether the U.S. Constitution requires the automatic destruction of DNA samples for those wrongly arrested or exonerated is a question \"we must leave for another day, because defendant in this case is neither,\" the majority said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This case involves a defendant who was validly arrested on probable cause to believe he had committed felony arson, and who was promptly charged with (and ultimately convicted of) that offense,\" the court said.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Mark Buza was suspected of setting a police car on fire in San Francisco, but refused to provide a DNA sample after his arrest. He was later convicted of arson and refusal to provide a DNA specimen.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1522804158,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":500},"headData":{"title":"California High Court Upholds Taking DNA From Arson Suspect | KQED","description":"Mark Buza was suspected of setting a police car on fire in San Francisco, but refused to provide a DNA sample after his arrest. 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