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Schiff has been a staunch supporter of Israel and has rebuffed calls for a cease-fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/politico/status/1765265791107117562\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are so lucky to live in a democracy where we all have the right to protest,” Schiff said, over the shouts of protesters in the audience. “I want to acknowledge the right of our protesters, and I look forward to working with you all.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey, a star first baseman for the Los Angeles Dodgers and San Diego Padres from 1969 to 1987, has never run for office before. He often struggled to articulate policy positions during his short campaign, and lagged behind his Democratic opponents in fundraising.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Garvey managed to consolidate the Republican and conservative vote in the final weeks before the primary, and was likely aided by millions of dollars worth of ads that Schiff’s campaign produced in an effort to elevate him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Keep in mind, this is the first game of a doubleheader. So keep the evening of Nov. 5th open, as we will celebrate again,” Garvey told supporters at an election night party in Palm Desert after taking the stage to the Black Eyed Peas song, “I Gotta Feeling.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Porter, a three-term congresswoman from a swing district in Orange County, ran as an outsider looking to shake things up. She has pushed to ban stock trading among members of Congress and attacked Schiff for taking corporate PAC money in past races.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in a presidential primary election with no real competition at the top of the ticket, Porter was likely hurt by low voter turnout and a lack of engagement among younger voters and voters of color, two of her key constituencies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“[Schiff] did get the institutional support of most of the California congressional delegation,” said Debbie Mesloh, a Democratic strategist who worked for Kamala Harris’ 2016 Senate campaign. “Unfortunately Porter did not enjoy that support.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Also with two women running, they cut the women’s endorsement votes, they cut the women’s donations,” Mesloh added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The outcome likely marks the end of the 77-year-old Lee’s long political career: To run for the Senate, she had to forego another congressional run, and she will give up her House seat at the end of this term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lee, who is best known for her 2001 vote against war in Afghanistan and Iraq, was the only woman of color in the race and the staunchest progressive voice. 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Adam Schiff of Burbank will face Republican Steve Garvey, a former baseball star, in the November general election to decide who will represent California in the U.S. Senate, after the two men edged out Democratic Reps. Katie Porter of Orange County and Barbara Lee of Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The matchup, in an overwhelmingly Democratic state where a Republican hasn’t won a statewide contest since 2006, is a huge win for Schiff, who ran ads propping up Garvey in the hopes of avoiding a runoff with another Democrat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Associated Press called the race just after 9 p.m., an hour after polls closed Tuesday night, with Schiff decisively leading the pack and Garvey in second place, holding a commanding lead over Porter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lee, who raised significantly less money than her opponents and had consistently trailed in the polls, was in a distant fourth place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is the least surprising outcome of any race I think this year,” said Gil Duran, a journalist and political commentator. “And now, although some of our friends maybe in TV have to pretend like there’s a race this year, it’s pretty much over. We all know that. That’s why Schiff pushed to have Garvey in the race with him. There’s no way a Republican can win.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"more election coverage ","tag":"election-2024"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The outcome of Tuesday’s race means that California will not be represented by a female senator for the first time since 1992, when the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein took the seat, which she held \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90\">until her death last fall\u003c/a>. Her replacement, Sen. Laphonza Butler, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11963066/gov-newsom-names-laphonza-butler-to-dianne-feinsteins-senate-seat\">was appointed by Gov. Gavin Newsom in October\u003c/a>, but chose not to run for a full term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a quirk of election timing, voters actually weighed in on two questions Tuesday: Who should compete for the full six-year term that begins next January, and who should fill out the final months of Feinstein’s term after the November election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In both cases, voters chose Garvey and Schiff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schiff, a longtime congressman and former federal prosecutor, ran as an establishment Democrat, with endorsements from former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, former U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer and most of California’s Democratic congressional delegation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As chair of the House Intelligence Committee, he made national headlines for \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-ca-state-wire-adam-schiff-politics-3eec3ea9be5c07a9c297bad439f8f3e8\">leading the first impeachment inquiry\u003c/a> into former President Trump in 2020, and appeared in this race to resonate with the state’s Democratic voters worried about a second Trump term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schiff was kicked off the Intelligence Committee when Republicans took control of the House last year and was also censured last summer by the GOP-led Congress. He mentioned both incidents in his victory speech Tuesday night in Los Angeles, where he thanked the political heavyweights who endorsed his Senate campaign, including Pelosi and Boxer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But tonight, I also find myself thinking a great deal of Sen. Feinstein. Sen. Feinstein who was an incredible giant in the U.S. Senate. Somebody who was not afraid to take on the biggest fights, but somebody who also knew how to get things done,” he told the crowd.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Schiff’s speech was interrupted by protesters chanting “Cease-fire now” — a reminder of the schisms within the Democratic party over the conflict between Israel and Hamas. Schiff has been a staunch supporter of Israel and has rebuffed calls for a cease-fire.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1765265791107117562"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>“We are so lucky to live in a democracy where we all have the right to protest,” Schiff said, over the shouts of protesters in the audience. “I want to acknowledge the right of our protesters, and I look forward to working with you all.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey, a star first baseman for the Los Angeles Dodgers and San Diego Padres from 1969 to 1987, has never run for office before. He often struggled to articulate policy positions during his short campaign, and lagged behind his Democratic opponents in fundraising.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Garvey managed to consolidate the Republican and conservative vote in the final weeks before the primary, and was likely aided by millions of dollars worth of ads that Schiff’s campaign produced in an effort to elevate him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Keep in mind, this is the first game of a doubleheader. So keep the evening of Nov. 5th open, as we will celebrate again,” Garvey told supporters at an election night party in Palm Desert after taking the stage to the Black Eyed Peas song, “I Gotta Feeling.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Porter, a three-term congresswoman from a swing district in Orange County, ran as an outsider looking to shake things up. She has pushed to ban stock trading among members of Congress and attacked Schiff for taking corporate PAC money in past races.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in a presidential primary election with no real competition at the top of the ticket, Porter was likely hurt by low voter turnout and a lack of engagement among younger voters and voters of color, two of her key constituencies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“[Schiff] did get the institutional support of most of the California congressional delegation,” said Debbie Mesloh, a Democratic strategist who worked for Kamala Harris’ 2016 Senate campaign. “Unfortunately Porter did not enjoy that support.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Also with two women running, they cut the women’s endorsement votes, they cut the women’s donations,” Mesloh added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The outcome likely marks the end of the 77-year-old Lee’s long political career: To run for the Senate, she had to forego another congressional run, and she will give up her House seat at the end of this term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lee, who is best known for her 2001 vote against war in Afghanistan and Iraq, was the only woman of color in the race and the staunchest progressive voice. But she struggled to raise money and introduce herself to voters after representing a safe Bay Area seat for more than a quarter century.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11978232/california-senate-seat-schiff-moves-on-to-general-election-with-garvey-leading-porter-for-second-spot","authors":["3239"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_33470","news_20716","news_22185","news_274","news_23420","news_32839","news_27626","news_24206","news_33463"],"featImg":"news_11978230","label":"news"},"news_11963999":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11963999","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11963999","score":null,"sort":[1696978233000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"baseball-legend-steve-garvey-launches-bid-for-feinsteins-senate-seat","title":"Baseball Legend Steve Garvey Launches Bid for Feinstein's Senate Seat","publishDate":1696978233,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Baseball Legend Steve Garvey Launches Bid for Feinstein’s Senate Seat | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Steve Garvey, an All-Star infielder with the Los Angeles Dodgers and the San Diego Padres until he retired in 1987, announced today that he’s running for the U.S. Senate seat once held by the late-Sen. Dianne Feinstein as a “common sense” Republican.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey, 74, joins an already crowded field that includes three Democratic members of Congress — Adam Schiff of Burbank, Katie Porter from Orange County and Oakland’s Barbara Lee — as well as Republican attorney Eric Early, who ran for California attorney general and lost twice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Steve Garvey, former Major League Baseball player\"]‘It’s been over a 50-year relationship. A love affair with California.’[/pullquote]It’s unknown whether Sen. Laphonza Butler, appointed by Gov. Gavin Newsom to fill out the remaining 15 months of Feinstein’s term, will also enter the race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey’s one-minute video announcement relies heavily on his baseball career, clearly hoping to parlay that reputation into campaign momentum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s been over a 50-year relationship. A love affair with California,” Garvey said of his time in the state, adding that he’ll bring “common sense compassion” to the Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey said he’s been asked to run for office many times, but that now seemed like the right time. “Career politicians are thinking more in terms of the business of politics and not what’s in the best interests of people,” he said, promising to represent in Washington what the people want in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That, of course, is a somewhat murky promise. In a conversation with KQED, Garvey stated some positions at odds with most Republicans in the Senate, including support for universal background checks before someone can purchase a gun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Very stringent background checks,” he said, adding that while he supports the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms, “I think we have to be concerned about guns being put in the hands of people that have mental health issues. A waiting period. I think all these things are probably good common sense. … let’s get tougher and tougher on that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked about abortion access he said vaguely that he opposes a national ban on abortion and will be for “whatever the people, you know, determined by the vote of the people of California, you know, I will support that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11963640,news_11963215\" label=\"Related Stories\"]On aid to Ukraine, Garvey said “we stand with Ukraine. We made a commitment to them,” adding that “I think we’ll continue to provide arms, intelligence, technology, (but) I think the most common sense people are saying, ‘well, we’re giving them all this money. Where is it going?’ And I think that’s an honest question to ask.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked if he agreed with some of the Republicans running for president who want to use the U.S. military to go after drug cartels south of the border, Garvey said “I don’t think it’s completely unreasonable to be able to secure that border. … looking at what types of our military, of our National Guard we can use to be able to detect the influx of criminals from cartels who are bringing drugs in, who are human trafficking, who are abusing people,” adding that “we have to work with the government of Mexico.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although he downplays his Republican Party affiliation, Garvey says he voted for Donald Trump for president in 2016 and 2020, and wouldn’t rule out voting for him again in 2024. He said he’d wait to see who the nominees are and then “I’ll make a decision based on who I think is the best candidate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey has never before run for office, and he doesn’t have much time to build a successful campaign infrastructure and raise enough money to be competitive in the March 5 primary election. But California Republicans are eager to find a credible U.S. Senate candidate who can consolidate GOP voters. Under California’s “top two” primary, the first and second place finishers in the primary — regardless of party — face off in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only \u003ca href=\"https://escholarship.org/uc/item/78p1042g\">independent poll\u003c/a> that included Garvey showed him well behind Schiff and Porter and tied with Lee. Fifty-nine percent of voters had no opinion of Garvey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The last time California voters elected a Republican U.S. Senator was in 1988 — a year after Garvey retired from major league baseball — when Sen. Pete Wilson won a second term before running for governor two years later. Garvey has precious little time to put together a credible campaign that would elevate him to the top two in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Former baseball All-Star player Steve Garvey announced today that he's running for the US Senate seat once held by the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein, as a 'common sense' Republican.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1696979814,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":17,"wordCount":832},"headData":{"title":"Baseball Legend Steve Garvey Launches Bid for Feinstein's Senate Seat | KQED","description":"Former baseball All-Star player Steve Garvey announced today that he's running for the US Senate seat once held by the late Sen. 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Dianne Feinstein as a “common sense” Republican.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey, 74, joins an already crowded field that includes three Democratic members of Congress — Adam Schiff of Burbank, Katie Porter from Orange County and Oakland’s Barbara Lee — as well as Republican attorney Eric Early, who ran for California attorney general and lost twice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘It’s been over a 50-year relationship. A love affair with California.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Steve Garvey, former Major League Baseball player","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>It’s unknown whether Sen. Laphonza Butler, appointed by Gov. Gavin Newsom to fill out the remaining 15 months of Feinstein’s term, will also enter the race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey’s one-minute video announcement relies heavily on his baseball career, clearly hoping to parlay that reputation into campaign momentum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s been over a 50-year relationship. A love affair with California,” Garvey said of his time in the state, adding that he’ll bring “common sense compassion” to the Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey said he’s been asked to run for office many times, but that now seemed like the right time. “Career politicians are thinking more in terms of the business of politics and not what’s in the best interests of people,” he said, promising to represent in Washington what the people want in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That, of course, is a somewhat murky promise. In a conversation with KQED, Garvey stated some positions at odds with most Republicans in the Senate, including support for universal background checks before someone can purchase a gun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Very stringent background checks,” he said, adding that while he supports the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms, “I think we have to be concerned about guns being put in the hands of people that have mental health issues. A waiting period. I think all these things are probably good common sense. … let’s get tougher and tougher on that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked about abortion access he said vaguely that he opposes a national ban on abortion and will be for “whatever the people, you know, determined by the vote of the people of California, you know, I will support that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11963640,news_11963215","label":"Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>On aid to Ukraine, Garvey said “we stand with Ukraine. We made a commitment to them,” adding that “I think we’ll continue to provide arms, intelligence, technology, (but) I think the most common sense people are saying, ‘well, we’re giving them all this money. Where is it going?’ And I think that’s an honest question to ask.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked if he agreed with some of the Republicans running for president who want to use the U.S. military to go after drug cartels south of the border, Garvey said “I don’t think it’s completely unreasonable to be able to secure that border. … looking at what types of our military, of our National Guard we can use to be able to detect the influx of criminals from cartels who are bringing drugs in, who are human trafficking, who are abusing people,” adding that “we have to work with the government of Mexico.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although he downplays his Republican Party affiliation, Garvey says he voted for Donald Trump for president in 2016 and 2020, and wouldn’t rule out voting for him again in 2024. He said he’d wait to see who the nominees are and then “I’ll make a decision based on who I think is the best candidate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garvey has never before run for office, and he doesn’t have much time to build a successful campaign infrastructure and raise enough money to be competitive in the March 5 primary election. But California Republicans are eager to find a credible U.S. Senate candidate who can consolidate GOP voters. Under California’s “top two” primary, the first and second place finishers in the primary — regardless of party — face off in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only \u003ca href=\"https://escholarship.org/uc/item/78p1042g\">independent poll\u003c/a> that included Garvey showed him well behind Schiff and Porter and tied with Lee. Fifty-nine percent of voters had no opinion of Garvey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The last time California voters elected a Republican U.S. Senator was in 1988 — a year after Garvey retired from major league baseball — when Sen. Pete Wilson won a second term before running for governor two years later. Garvey has precious little time to put together a credible campaign that would elevate him to the top two in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11963999/baseball-legend-steve-garvey-launches-bid-for-feinsteins-senate-seat","authors":["255"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_914","news_274","news_27626","news_4694"],"featImg":"news_11964004","label":"news"},"news_11963640":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11963640","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11963640","score":null,"sort":[1696555548000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"remembering-feinstein-and-californias-senate-question","title":"Remembering Feinstein and California's Senate Question","publishDate":1696555548,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Remembering Feinstein and California’s Senate Question | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marisa and Scott recap Dianne Feinstein’s memorial service and hear Nancy Pelosi’s memories of the former mayor and senator. Guy Marzorati joins to discuss Feinstein’s legacy, California’s new Senator Laphonza Butler and the choice facing Butler over whether to run for a full term.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Hey, everyone. From KQED Public Radio, this is Political Breakdown. I’m Marisa Lagos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And I’m Scott Shafer, and today on the Breakdown: recapping a whirlwind week in California politics. We’ll reflect on the legacy of Senator Dianne Feinstein after her memorial service Thursday at San Francisco City Hall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And we’ll talk about the woman appointed to succeed Feinstein, Laphonza Butler, and the biggest question in California politics, will Butler run for a full term in the Senate? Joining us to talk all about this is the indispensable third member of our Political Breakdown team, Guy Marzorati. Hey Guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> What a week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What a week, I’m done, can we call mercy now on the political news? Well, today we all just got back. Scott and I were there at the public memorial service for Senator Feinstein, where Vice President Kamala Harris, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Mayor London Breed and Feinstein’s granddaughter all spoke along with Chuck Schumer, leader of the Senate. But I mean, that’s one of the things that struck me was like looking at that stage full of women, right. Who all are incredibly powerful and thinking back on Feinstein. And Scott, on Wednesday, you were there as her body lay in state at city hall. I know there was a lot of just normal members of the public there and some dignitaries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it was. The city hall opened at around nine and I was over there bright and early. And Speaker Pelosi, Speaker Emerita Pelosi got there about one word about 9:00. And she came and met with Catherine Feinstein, the late senator’s daughter, and she was very choked up. I have to say, I went to talk to her before she goes, let’s wait until I sign the condolence book and go in and see the coffin and pay my respects, say a prayer. She was very, you know, close to Dianne Feinstein. It was very emotional for her. She had flown on the president’s plane, Air Force One, with the senator’s body and Catherine Feinstein. So it was all very, very emotional. Afterwards, we did get a chance to talk about what the senator meant to her and to the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong> I was thinking of the words during the night about how gentle she was, but how strategic she was. And so, she knew her purpose and she would not be, she did things on her own terms, but she always did them with gentleness. She loved flowers. She loved to grow them. She loved to paint them. She loved to show them off. And so she had she was very, very special person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> There are people who don’t remember her as mayor because they’re too young or they just moved here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong> They weren’t even born.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> What are your thoughts? Like what should what should people know about her tenure as mayor and what she left behind?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong> What they should know about her is that as mayor of the city, she came in under the most gruesome circumstances, and yet she gave comfort and strength to the city at that difficult time. But the story I love to tell is that when we wanted to, I was chair of the California party, we wanted to have the Democratic convention come to San Francisco. So we went to see her and she said, ‘Well, I can’t do that if it takes any resources away from Laguna Honda.’ She was always thinking about those in most need, and we said, no, that it wouldn’t do that. But let us prove that to you. As you know, the stories of her just giving mouth to mouth resuscitation to somebody on the street that she didn’t even know. But that’s what she was. She was generous, generous, completely generous. So, again, she and I were not on the same place on the political spectrum. So we had our fun with it all. But from a personal standpoint, my family loved her. We were neighbors, we were friends and my daughter, Nancy. We always tease and said, if Diane and I were running against each other, we were sure Nancy Carinne would vote for Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What great tape, Scott. You know, I think the former speaker talked there about her living on her own terms, dying on her own terms. She voted the day that she passed away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> To keep the government running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> To keep the government open.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Walked onto the Senate floor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Walked on and we were talking to one of her staff members today who said, you know, she was frail and she did need a wheelchair to get around. But she insisted that we would wheel her up to the door and she would walk into that chamber by herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And I thought Pelosi, out of the speakers today at the memorial, was the most personal of all the elected officials. I mean, she even mentioned to you, Scott, they they had their political differences. They weren’t the same kind of Democrats, something like the Iraq war. You look at different votes that they had. But she had a personal connection to Feinstein that I don’t think maybe many of the others on stage did. She talked about her own, you know, daughter in that tape with you. Her daughter Nancy, took care of Feinstein kind of towards the very end of her life in Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And I think, you know, the just the fact that she could look out the window of her house and see the hydrangeas in Senator Feinstein’s garden, you know, they obviously were you know, they were neighbors. They were friends. They were, you know, kind of quasi-family. They were political family at the very least. And, you know, one of the other things I liked about the speeches today was her granddaughter, the late senator’s granddaughter, who really spoke about a softer, gentler side of her grandmother, you know, playing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Playing hide and seek, which I’m trying to imagine—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Oh yeah, it was the stories that I think a politician running nowadays would want to lean into in their public persona. But the very kind of thing Feinstein was always reluctant to reveal about herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Right, and you know, the book that Jerry Roberts, former Chronicle reporter, the bio of her, was called Never Let Them See You Cry, because she was always strong on the outside. And yeah, to hear the stories about picking flowers in the garden and then painting them and, you know, learning how to play chess from her grandmother and all that stuff. It was really I thought it really rounded out the view we have of Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, but there’s a reason she didn’t want people to see her cry. And it’s because that she came up in a time where that was not I mean, she was sitting in seats that women weren’t supposed to be in to begin with, Right. Starting from going to Stanford in the 50s up through even being elected on the school board. I mean, you know, we’ve heard the story of her meeting Willie Brown because she was out there with, you know, Catherine Feinstein, her daughter, in a stroller, helping protest against racist housing policies that were keeping black families like Willie Brown’s out of certain San Francisco neighborhoods. At the same time, she was a single mom at that point. Right. And, you know, the other thing that I felt was very personal was Mayor London Breed talking about her today. Breed mentioned that she was born in the 1970s and you know, really came up not knowing a world without Dianne Feinstein as the mayor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>London Breed:\u003c/strong> None of the things that she told me as an adult were ever as important. As what she showed us as children. Through times of tragedy and triumph, Dianne Feinstein showed us the meaning of San Francisco’s motto Gold in Peace, Iron in War. She showed us a world where women lead, where we lift each other up so that girls like me could follow in her footsteps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that was such a powerful statement. And I think, you know, that also goes to who London Breed is, you know, the strength and the power of her own biography and growing up in San Francisco when she did and how she did. But, you know, it occurs to me, listening to that, that all you know, we talked about the political differences that Feinstein had with Pelosi. She certainly had them with Breed and with Kamala Harris too, the vice president. I mean, Well, you know, obviously, she spoke today as well. And I think we all remember that time when right after Kamala became D.A. and there was a police officer shot and killed. And she immediately said, you know, we’re not going to seek the death penalty. And Feinstein called her out at the funeral.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> In a room full of police officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Roomful of police officers, they cheered. And, you know, that was and that was we’ve talked about it, you know, a pivotal moment for Kamala. So, yeah, Dianne was you know, she was, Dianne Feinstein had a particular lane in politics and it was a little bit to the right of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> But you did hear today that she didn’t make it personal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah. No, I think that’s true. And I think even, you know, Chuck Schumer talked about her ability to reach across the aisle on something like the assault weapons ban, but that carried forward in a lot of different policy areas. I mean, we talked about water. She was just as likely to work with Republicans in the Central Valley. In fact, Kevin McCarthy was someone that she worked with on water bills in the past. So I think that was certainly her kind of political style. I remember when you both sat down with her in 2018, the last time that she was running for reelection, she was really resistant to this idea of political styles. She didn’t want to be talked about as, Oh, I have a different style as Kamala —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> She didn’t want to be compared. I think she felt like the media was trying to pit two women against each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And I think to her there wasn’t another style. This was the way in which you were supposed to act in the U.S. Senate. And this is, you know, the way that she viewed things had to be done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I think generationally she was just not of the digital generation. You know, she wasn’t you know, she didn’t have any … Facebooking and Tweeting, her staff did that for her. And I think she she didn’t appreciate the really the quick, she was a workhorse, you know, And I think she you know, Kamala Harris told the story today when she became sent to the you know, elected to the Senate, Feinstein handed her a glass of chardonnay wine and a binder full of her bills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> California chardonnay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> California chardonnay, yeah she was just really, her nose to the grindstone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Well, Harris used a quote today, she said she was about results, not rhetoric. And I think in large part that’s why Feinstein, in her later years, was really drifting away from where not only the Democratic Party was, but just where politics are today. I think, you know, we talk about this moment where the school kids came into her office and asked her to please support the Green New Deal. And, you know, she just it was like she couldn’t believe that they had the temerity to walk into a sitting senator’s office. And I think and the you know, as you said, the digital age of politics was kind of lost on her. But kind of the pugilistic age that we’re in right now was lost on her as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She was always trying to find common ground.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well and Chuck Schumer talked about this and I think other speakers, too, which is like she did her homework. She was a workhorse in the best sense of the word, that she wouldn’t just sort of speak out of turn. She would say, let me go read on that. And she actually would, which I don’t know, I don’t want to throw cast any aspersions here, but looking at what’s happened in the House of Representatives this week, I don’t know that all those people are like reading the the bill before they vote on it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I do want to say, though, you know, I mentioned at the top that it was and I think you heard this in the mayor’s comments about what it felt like to grow up then. I mean, Nancy Pelosi, I think, made a joke about, you know, the fact that there’s little girls who said, oh, men can be a mayor, too? Right. But it was also very fitting to have this ceremony on the steps of city hall at the building where really her fate was sort of written in 1978 after the horrific murders of Mayor George Moscone and Harvey Milk. And, you know, looking back at everything this week as somebody who wasn’t here at the time, it’s just wild to think. I mean, just two weeks before that, over 900 people had died at the Jonestown massacre, including Congressman Leo Ryan, who was murdered basically a, you know, hit job by the leader of that cult. Her for her second husband, Bert Feinstein, had passed away earlier that year. And when we talked to her a few years ago, she said, you know, she had planned on stepping down from politics. And we asked her about that moment coming out and announcing to the world that another supervisor had murdered them. And this is what she talked about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> What happens to me is everything else blocks out except what I am doing and what I need to do. So it’s a phenomenon. I can’t explain what happens, but I can just perform. I can just keep going. And it’s not by will. I know that. But it happens that way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> So powerful to hear her talk about, you know, something that you can tell decades later still felt traumatic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And Chuck Schumer today made a similar allusion to her when she was up in Lake Tahoe for one of her Tahoe summits and fractured her ankle and yet refused to seek medical help.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> She had a job to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She had a job to do. You know, she went through with the summit and, you know, later on got the attention that she needed. But she was tough, you know, And, you know, being like, as you said today, Guy earlier, forged in tragedy. That was actually the phrase in the TV commercial that they used when she was running for governor in 1990. And I think that I think that is part of what, how this outpouring of affection and appreciation for her that we’ve seen this week is that moment, you know, when she stood up and brought the city together, it was coming apart at the seams. And I think no one really knew what was next. You know, this is also an assassination by a former member of the board of supervisors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Who she had been mentoring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yes, friends with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah and I think you hear that steadfastness in a quote like that from Feinstein and you realize, like why it ended like it did for her in the Senate. Like she was not someone who was going to have a life after public service or a life after politics. And I think she didn’t. It was kind of those blinders that she’s almost describing that I think ended up in a situation where the last few years of her life in the Senate were, you know, full of questions about her service and whether she’s hanging on too long. And I think it speaks to kind of the way she pursued public life and public service that led to this scenario where really towards the end, I think in a large part, played into a part of her legacy that’s going to be there, right? This last term was one of really absence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it’s interesting, though, because I think that, you know, in the last two years have been so difficult for her, you know, physically, mentally and a lot of criticism for not letting go sooner. And yet this week, we’ve really heard very little of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> You know, I think it’s almost like we folks got it out of the way, right? There’s the last two years have been nothing but bad news for her that I think is kind of opened the door to now, to recall —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> To recall the last four, five decades of her service and to recall the recall for five decades of her service and to think about I mean, you know, I don’t want to rush through all this, but we are going to have to take a break soon. But the things that she accomplished, not just as mayor, sort of righting the ship in this city. And, you know, not everybody agrees with her policies then, but I think there was a sense that she was a steadying force. But then also getting to the Senate and, you know, being only one of a handful of women in there and taking on gun control, the assault rifle weapons ban, you know, a decade or two later taking on the CIA with her torture report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, and, you know, and what that was about really was accountability, holding the CIA accountable. And I think what, you know, we’re in this moment now are San Francisco is, you know, being, you know, criticized all over the place on Fox News and elsewhere for the situation on the streets, exaggerated in some ways. And I think people hearken back maybe to the time she was mayor. She did hold people accountable. Department heads, she expected results. And I think that’s what people are looking for is like we’re spending all this money, what are we getting? And that was the kind of question she would ask.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> She continued, like until the end of her life —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> There’s a mattress on the street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Holding everyone accountable. She would make that phone call, she would apparently at SFO, all of the workers there wanted to know which side of the plane she was coming in on so they can make sure the runway looked nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So they could go on the other side.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, just push it over there. But I mean, it is. And I think it really does stand in contrast to the type of politics that we see now, especially with the former president and the rhetoric we’re seeing from him. She really deeply respected not just the institution of the Senate, but our government and our democracy. And yeah, it’s a huge loss and a life incredibly lived. Okay, we will take a short break. When we come back, we’ll look ahead to talk about California’s new senator, Laphonza Butler. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Welcome back to Political Breakdown here with the politics dream team, Guy Marzorati and Scott Shafer and now we are going to talk about what is next for California, we have a new senator. But Guy I thought we could go back and remember why Gavin Newsom, our governor, was in kind of a pickle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Kind of boxed himself in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Tell us about the genesis of this appointment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah I mean, so this goes back to 2021 when Newsom was facing a recall in the early part of the year and made this pledge on the heels of having appointed Alex Padilla to fill Kamala Harris’ Senate seat that he would appoint a black woman should Feinstein’s seat open up. And it got it was controversial in the short term for people saying, well, you shouldn’t be jumping to any conclusions about DiFi. But in the you know, year since, it’s it has kind of box demand and it really culminated in this appearance on Meet the Press a couple of weeks ago where he was talking to Chuck Todd about this potential appointment. And he used the phrase interim appointment. And Chuck Todd followed up by saying, you know, you would not appoint anyone. And Newsom finished the sentence saying that would run again. And so somehow, in the weeks since, Newsom changed his mind and we can talk about maybe what played into that. But even before he announced Butler’s pick on Sunday, his office had already signaled whoever the name that comes out was going to be. They don’t have to make any promise as far as not running in 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, and I think the anger that was generated in 2021, you know, he appointed Padilla to take Kamala Harris seat and that left the Senate with no black women. Now, Padilla was historic in his own right. He’s the first Latino senator from California. But it did seem that Newsom was making that pledge to help himself in a recall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> There might have a been a recall happening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> There was a recall happening. And I’m sure Dianne Feinstein didn’t appreciate that, you know, being basically, you know, you’re kind of speculating about her having to leave the office one way or the other. And then, yeah, he walked it back and said he didn’t want to interfere by putting Barbara Lee in that seat, which is what a lot of women of color, black women in particular, were pushing for and so was Barbara Lee. Barbara Lee said, I will take that job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> We should say, Congresswoman Barbara Lee of Oakland who is running to replace Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> What’s curious is, on the merits, it didn’t entirely make sense to say you can only be an interim appointment. He never told Alex Padilla, you can only be an interim appointment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What is in from a point of putting somebody in a group that has historically struggled to win elections in a seat, it’s to give them the power of incumbency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> But what changed?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, I think Barbara Lee is maybe a little bit to his left. I mean, let’s say whoever he appoints, whoever it is, is going to be a reflection of him. And if they do things that aren’t out of sync with his own politics, he’s going to have to answer to that, in some ways. He may run for president one day. And I think Barbara Lee is probably a little more liberal than he would like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And probably older.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And also Nancy Pelosi. Let’s face it, Nancy Pelosi has endorsed Adam Schiff, and I think she probably leaned on him not to upset that apple cart —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Or to appoint Schiff. And I think, I do think some of this was new, some sort of exercising some independence from a lot of the party establishment who and it wasn’t like they were all lining up behind one person. But to have Pelosi out there publicly endorsing Schiff, to have Barbara Lee and her allies in the Congressional Black Caucus, calling on him very specifically and very angrily after he demurred. You know, I think that some of it was that. What changed, Guy? I don’t know exactly. One of my guesses is, might be that they talked to a lot of black women who said, I don’t want an interim job. I’m not going to give up the job I have now to take that and for what?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Knowing it would only be for thirteen months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> It’s condescending to to say, well, she’s free to run. Like, of course she’s free to run. She can make that choice on her own. With or without his permission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I got to say, and I and I think and I don’t think from what she said and from what I’ve heard, I don’t think that these conversations were directly with Butler before he offered her the position. But I do think once her name came up and he and his people in his inner circle started thinking about her, I mean, maybe that was what changed, was that they looked at her and said, we don’t want to put those handcuffs on her, right? And she is, I think, really a smart choice. I mean, not only is she very well respected in the California political community for her time leading SEIU and really her, I think, excellent negotiating skills at the table on things like the $15 minimum wage. She’s also our first openly lesbian senator. She is 44 years old and she has been running Emily’s List, a fund raising group. Right. So even though she does not have any household sort of name recognition, I think her ability to build it is probably way far ahead of a lot of potential candidates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> It is. But, you know, the time is getting short. You know, she’s got to if she’s going to run, she’s got to have a statement in by November. You know, I think the absolute deadline is December 8th. Yeah, it’s hard to put together a statewide operation. And then, you know, the governor would have to endorse her, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> She’ll have the name Senator next to her name on the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> A lot of earned media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> A lot of earned media. And I think, you know, for better or worse, the conversation I think, is now going to shift towards Barbara Lee. This was a loss for her not to get this appointment. I also think she’s really going to be splitting a lot of the supporters that Barbara Lee has, both voters and also kind of financial backers. I mean, talking to folks like California Donor Table, Aimee Allison, they’re not upset about Laphonza Butler’s appointment. They’re praising that and saying, oh, you know, we’re trying to figure out a situation in which we can support both of these candidates going forward. That’s tough and I could really see a situation where as we get closer to December, there starts to be calls for Barbara Lee, like, do you want to stay in this race if you’re still going to be in single digits? Because look, as the way the field is right now, it’s not going to take a whole lot to get into the top two primary. I know every Democrat is going to be wearing a Steve Garvey jersey from now until March, because if he gets in the race, I think that’s the only situation where you might have two Democrats. And I think, you know, for Butler, get to what? 20%, 25% of the vote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> It’ll be super interesting. I’m sure we’ll see a poll in the next few weeks with her name in it. Just to just get a sense of like who you know, I think we all it’s easy for us. You know, we’re steeped in this stuff to think that everyone is you know, I got a cup of coffee today and I was wearing a black suit because of the funeral, the memorial. And the woman said, oh, you’re wearing you got all dressed up. I said, Yeah, I’m going to a funeral. She goes, Oh, who died? I said, Dianne Feinstein. She looked at me like, Who is that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Oh, my Lyft driver knew exactly who Dianne Feinstein was, but I had not heard that she had passed away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> So it’s just a reality check.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah well we’ve been steeped in this and haven’t had a day off in two weeks. But I do think when you think about Laphonza Butler, I mean, part of this is, you know, going to be her job to introduce herself to people. And to your point, Scott, we know her already. She has been, as I said, the head for almost a decade. She led the largest labor union in the state, which really is sort of one of the biggest advocates for not just working people, but working people of color and women in particular. And, you know, when we spoke to Laphonza Butler back in 2019 here in Political Breakdown, she talked about kind of what led her to that work. And this is part of that conversation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laphonza Butler:\u003c/strong> My mom worked really hard. My dad died when I was 16 years old. He had heart disease. By the time he passed away, he’d had six heart attacks. He had a stroke, he had had a crow, he’d had a heart transplant, got a new heart from an 18 year old who died in a motorcycle accident. So my life was really lived through the eyes of a caregiver. My mother was my father’s caregiver in the last years of of his life and having to understand what families everyday go through when it when it comes to issues like health care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You know, I think when you listen to the fans of Butler, you get an authenticity about her. She’s not like the other people in the Senate, you know, which is sometimes criticized for being, you know, male Yale and pale. She comes from Mississippi, Magnolia, Mississippi. She went to Jackson State University. Her mom was a caregiver. Her dad died. She’s got real life experience. And that was also steeped in the labor movement, organizing nurses and janitors. And it’s it really is a completely different perspective that most U.S. senators have. And we’ll see if she runs or not. But I do think there’s an excitement about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And I think we have to think about we’re all here doing the political kind of chess game for her. This is a deeply personal decision. And she’s talked about this in the very few interviews she gave that she values her privacy. She is a black lesbian woman with a daughter. Her daughter was not at the swearing in. I wonder if that was not on purpose. I mean, this is not a time in America where you want to put your family out there to be vulnerable when you are part of those minorities. And so I do think that beyond the sort of political calculations, she’s going to be thinking hard about what kind what public service means to her and if this is worth what is was acknowledged today for Dianne Feinstein, it is something that your family is giving up as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> It must be hard just speaking of giving up, like give up a job, give up the job of being a United States senator when you had a taste of it for, you know, a few weeks, months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> It is just such a unique I mean, I can’t think of anyone else who has the legislative experience Laphonza Butler has, who’s not a politician.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Who’s never run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> More legislative experience. You could argue that half the lawmakers in Sacramento in terms of actually negotiating at the table and being in the mix and not just sort of taking a bill from an outside group and running it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> From what I heard today at the memorial service, she was definitely working the crowd looking like a candidate, you know, shaking hands, which Adam Schiff was as well. We saw him out there, too. But, yeah, I mean, this is new for her. It’s a new role. But, you know. It’s a different kind of like it’s a different kind of organizing. She’s been an organizer and that’s what campaigns are about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And so we don’t we know she worked for in tech for a little bit. We won’t gloss over that. There’s plenty of time to talk about that. I’m sure we’ll get a response from listeners if we don’t mention that, but just a minute left, guys. But we got to acknowledge the talk about political earthquakes. Kevin McCarthy is out as speaker. It is chaos in the House in Washington. We, you know, are seeing just I think I mean, talk of former President Trump becoming the next speaker. I mean, it’s wild. 30 seconds, Guy. What are you watching for?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> I’m watching for the vulnerable House Republicans in California who have stood in line with Kevin McCarthy on some really conservative votes over the last nine months now might be going free range.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And also with a lot less fundraising behind them, because McCarthy was, you know, had a huge haul of money for them to help prop them up. It’s a presidential year that could be more vulnerable anyway. So I think a lot of them are kind of nervous. And, you know, there’s fury on the Republican side. There were seven Republicans that voted to get rid of him and all the Democrats. And so we’re going to be talking to Nancy Pelosi next week. And it’ll be interesting to hear what she has to say. They took her hideaway office away. There’s usually a courtesy given to former speakers. So, yeah, it’s it is dysfunction junction back there in Washington for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> All right. We’re going to leave it there. Dianne Feinstein would not be happy to see it. I know that. That’s going to do it for this edition of Political Breakdown. We’re a production of KQED Public Radio. Thanks to Guy Marzorati as always, for joining us. 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","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"source":"Political Breakdown","audioUrl":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/chrt.fm/track/G6C7C3/traffic.megaphone.fm/KQINC6214578681.mp3","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11963640/remembering-feinstein-and-californias-senate-question","audioDuration":1817000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marisa and Scott recap Dianne Feinstein’s memorial service and hear Nancy Pelosi’s memories of the former mayor and senator. Guy Marzorati joins to discuss Feinstein’s legacy, California’s new Senator Laphonza Butler and the choice facing Butler over whether to run for a full term.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Hey, everyone. From KQED Public Radio, this is Political Breakdown. I’m Marisa Lagos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And I’m Scott Shafer, and today on the Breakdown: recapping a whirlwind week in California politics. We’ll reflect on the legacy of Senator Dianne Feinstein after her memorial service Thursday at San Francisco City Hall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And we’ll talk about the woman appointed to succeed Feinstein, Laphonza Butler, and the biggest question in California politics, will Butler run for a full term in the Senate? Joining us to talk all about this is the indispensable third member of our Political Breakdown team, Guy Marzorati. Hey Guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> What a week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What a week, I’m done, can we call mercy now on the political news? Well, today we all just got back. Scott and I were there at the public memorial service for Senator Feinstein, where Vice President Kamala Harris, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Mayor London Breed and Feinstein’s granddaughter all spoke along with Chuck Schumer, leader of the Senate. But I mean, that’s one of the things that struck me was like looking at that stage full of women, right. Who all are incredibly powerful and thinking back on Feinstein. And Scott, on Wednesday, you were there as her body lay in state at city hall. I know there was a lot of just normal members of the public there and some dignitaries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it was. The city hall opened at around nine and I was over there bright and early. And Speaker Pelosi, Speaker Emerita Pelosi got there about one word about 9:00. And she came and met with Catherine Feinstein, the late senator’s daughter, and she was very choked up. I have to say, I went to talk to her before she goes, let’s wait until I sign the condolence book and go in and see the coffin and pay my respects, say a prayer. She was very, you know, close to Dianne Feinstein. It was very emotional for her. She had flown on the president’s plane, Air Force One, with the senator’s body and Catherine Feinstein. So it was all very, very emotional. Afterwards, we did get a chance to talk about what the senator meant to her and to the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong> I was thinking of the words during the night about how gentle she was, but how strategic she was. And so, she knew her purpose and she would not be, she did things on her own terms, but she always did them with gentleness. She loved flowers. She loved to grow them. She loved to paint them. She loved to show them off. And so she had she was very, very special person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> There are people who don’t remember her as mayor because they’re too young or they just moved here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong> They weren’t even born.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> What are your thoughts? Like what should what should people know about her tenure as mayor and what she left behind?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong> What they should know about her is that as mayor of the city, she came in under the most gruesome circumstances, and yet she gave comfort and strength to the city at that difficult time. But the story I love to tell is that when we wanted to, I was chair of the California party, we wanted to have the Democratic convention come to San Francisco. So we went to see her and she said, ‘Well, I can’t do that if it takes any resources away from Laguna Honda.’ She was always thinking about those in most need, and we said, no, that it wouldn’t do that. But let us prove that to you. As you know, the stories of her just giving mouth to mouth resuscitation to somebody on the street that she didn’t even know. But that’s what she was. She was generous, generous, completely generous. So, again, she and I were not on the same place on the political spectrum. So we had our fun with it all. But from a personal standpoint, my family loved her. We were neighbors, we were friends and my daughter, Nancy. We always tease and said, if Diane and I were running against each other, we were sure Nancy Carinne would vote for Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What great tape, Scott. You know, I think the former speaker talked there about her living on her own terms, dying on her own terms. She voted the day that she passed away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> To keep the government running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> To keep the government open.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Walked onto the Senate floor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Walked on and we were talking to one of her staff members today who said, you know, she was frail and she did need a wheelchair to get around. But she insisted that we would wheel her up to the door and she would walk into that chamber by herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And I thought Pelosi, out of the speakers today at the memorial, was the most personal of all the elected officials. I mean, she even mentioned to you, Scott, they they had their political differences. They weren’t the same kind of Democrats, something like the Iraq war. You look at different votes that they had. But she had a personal connection to Feinstein that I don’t think maybe many of the others on stage did. She talked about her own, you know, daughter in that tape with you. Her daughter Nancy, took care of Feinstein kind of towards the very end of her life in Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And I think, you know, the just the fact that she could look out the window of her house and see the hydrangeas in Senator Feinstein’s garden, you know, they obviously were you know, they were neighbors. They were friends. They were, you know, kind of quasi-family. They were political family at the very least. And, you know, one of the other things I liked about the speeches today was her granddaughter, the late senator’s granddaughter, who really spoke about a softer, gentler side of her grandmother, you know, playing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Playing hide and seek, which I’m trying to imagine—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Oh yeah, it was the stories that I think a politician running nowadays would want to lean into in their public persona. But the very kind of thing Feinstein was always reluctant to reveal about herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Right, and you know, the book that Jerry Roberts, former Chronicle reporter, the bio of her, was called Never Let Them See You Cry, because she was always strong on the outside. And yeah, to hear the stories about picking flowers in the garden and then painting them and, you know, learning how to play chess from her grandmother and all that stuff. It was really I thought it really rounded out the view we have of Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, but there’s a reason she didn’t want people to see her cry. And it’s because that she came up in a time where that was not I mean, she was sitting in seats that women weren’t supposed to be in to begin with, Right. Starting from going to Stanford in the 50s up through even being elected on the school board. I mean, you know, we’ve heard the story of her meeting Willie Brown because she was out there with, you know, Catherine Feinstein, her daughter, in a stroller, helping protest against racist housing policies that were keeping black families like Willie Brown’s out of certain San Francisco neighborhoods. At the same time, she was a single mom at that point. Right. And, you know, the other thing that I felt was very personal was Mayor London Breed talking about her today. Breed mentioned that she was born in the 1970s and you know, really came up not knowing a world without Dianne Feinstein as the mayor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>London Breed:\u003c/strong> None of the things that she told me as an adult were ever as important. As what she showed us as children. Through times of tragedy and triumph, Dianne Feinstein showed us the meaning of San Francisco’s motto Gold in Peace, Iron in War. She showed us a world where women lead, where we lift each other up so that girls like me could follow in her footsteps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that was such a powerful statement. And I think, you know, that also goes to who London Breed is, you know, the strength and the power of her own biography and growing up in San Francisco when she did and how she did. But, you know, it occurs to me, listening to that, that all you know, we talked about the political differences that Feinstein had with Pelosi. She certainly had them with Breed and with Kamala Harris too, the vice president. I mean, Well, you know, obviously, she spoke today as well. And I think we all remember that time when right after Kamala became D.A. and there was a police officer shot and killed. And she immediately said, you know, we’re not going to seek the death penalty. And Feinstein called her out at the funeral.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> In a room full of police officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Roomful of police officers, they cheered. And, you know, that was and that was we’ve talked about it, you know, a pivotal moment for Kamala. So, yeah, Dianne was you know, she was, Dianne Feinstein had a particular lane in politics and it was a little bit to the right of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> But you did hear today that she didn’t make it personal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah. No, I think that’s true. And I think even, you know, Chuck Schumer talked about her ability to reach across the aisle on something like the assault weapons ban, but that carried forward in a lot of different policy areas. I mean, we talked about water. She was just as likely to work with Republicans in the Central Valley. In fact, Kevin McCarthy was someone that she worked with on water bills in the past. So I think that was certainly her kind of political style. I remember when you both sat down with her in 2018, the last time that she was running for reelection, she was really resistant to this idea of political styles. She didn’t want to be talked about as, Oh, I have a different style as Kamala —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> She didn’t want to be compared. I think she felt like the media was trying to pit two women against each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And I think to her there wasn’t another style. This was the way in which you were supposed to act in the U.S. Senate. And this is, you know, the way that she viewed things had to be done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I think generationally she was just not of the digital generation. You know, she wasn’t you know, she didn’t have any … Facebooking and Tweeting, her staff did that for her. And I think she she didn’t appreciate the really the quick, she was a workhorse, you know, And I think she you know, Kamala Harris told the story today when she became sent to the you know, elected to the Senate, Feinstein handed her a glass of chardonnay wine and a binder full of her bills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> California chardonnay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> California chardonnay, yeah she was just really, her nose to the grindstone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Well, Harris used a quote today, she said she was about results, not rhetoric. And I think in large part that’s why Feinstein, in her later years, was really drifting away from where not only the Democratic Party was, but just where politics are today. I think, you know, we talk about this moment where the school kids came into her office and asked her to please support the Green New Deal. And, you know, she just it was like she couldn’t believe that they had the temerity to walk into a sitting senator’s office. And I think and the you know, as you said, the digital age of politics was kind of lost on her. But kind of the pugilistic age that we’re in right now was lost on her as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She was always trying to find common ground.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well and Chuck Schumer talked about this and I think other speakers, too, which is like she did her homework. She was a workhorse in the best sense of the word, that she wouldn’t just sort of speak out of turn. She would say, let me go read on that. And she actually would, which I don’t know, I don’t want to throw cast any aspersions here, but looking at what’s happened in the House of Representatives this week, I don’t know that all those people are like reading the the bill before they vote on it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I do want to say, though, you know, I mentioned at the top that it was and I think you heard this in the mayor’s comments about what it felt like to grow up then. I mean, Nancy Pelosi, I think, made a joke about, you know, the fact that there’s little girls who said, oh, men can be a mayor, too? Right. But it was also very fitting to have this ceremony on the steps of city hall at the building where really her fate was sort of written in 1978 after the horrific murders of Mayor George Moscone and Harvey Milk. And, you know, looking back at everything this week as somebody who wasn’t here at the time, it’s just wild to think. I mean, just two weeks before that, over 900 people had died at the Jonestown massacre, including Congressman Leo Ryan, who was murdered basically a, you know, hit job by the leader of that cult. Her for her second husband, Bert Feinstein, had passed away earlier that year. And when we talked to her a few years ago, she said, you know, she had planned on stepping down from politics. And we asked her about that moment coming out and announcing to the world that another supervisor had murdered them. And this is what she talked about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> What happens to me is everything else blocks out except what I am doing and what I need to do. So it’s a phenomenon. I can’t explain what happens, but I can just perform. I can just keep going. And it’s not by will. I know that. But it happens that way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> So powerful to hear her talk about, you know, something that you can tell decades later still felt traumatic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And Chuck Schumer today made a similar allusion to her when she was up in Lake Tahoe for one of her Tahoe summits and fractured her ankle and yet refused to seek medical help.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> She had a job to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She had a job to do. You know, she went through with the summit and, you know, later on got the attention that she needed. But she was tough, you know, And, you know, being like, as you said today, Guy earlier, forged in tragedy. That was actually the phrase in the TV commercial that they used when she was running for governor in 1990. And I think that I think that is part of what, how this outpouring of affection and appreciation for her that we’ve seen this week is that moment, you know, when she stood up and brought the city together, it was coming apart at the seams. And I think no one really knew what was next. You know, this is also an assassination by a former member of the board of supervisors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Who she had been mentoring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yes, friends with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah and I think you hear that steadfastness in a quote like that from Feinstein and you realize, like why it ended like it did for her in the Senate. Like she was not someone who was going to have a life after public service or a life after politics. And I think she didn’t. It was kind of those blinders that she’s almost describing that I think ended up in a situation where the last few years of her life in the Senate were, you know, full of questions about her service and whether she’s hanging on too long. And I think it speaks to kind of the way she pursued public life and public service that led to this scenario where really towards the end, I think in a large part, played into a part of her legacy that’s going to be there, right? This last term was one of really absence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it’s interesting, though, because I think that, you know, in the last two years have been so difficult for her, you know, physically, mentally and a lot of criticism for not letting go sooner. And yet this week, we’ve really heard very little of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> You know, I think it’s almost like we folks got it out of the way, right? There’s the last two years have been nothing but bad news for her that I think is kind of opened the door to now, to recall —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> To recall the last four, five decades of her service and to recall the recall for five decades of her service and to think about I mean, you know, I don’t want to rush through all this, but we are going to have to take a break soon. But the things that she accomplished, not just as mayor, sort of righting the ship in this city. And, you know, not everybody agrees with her policies then, but I think there was a sense that she was a steadying force. But then also getting to the Senate and, you know, being only one of a handful of women in there and taking on gun control, the assault rifle weapons ban, you know, a decade or two later taking on the CIA with her torture report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, and, you know, and what that was about really was accountability, holding the CIA accountable. And I think what, you know, we’re in this moment now are San Francisco is, you know, being, you know, criticized all over the place on Fox News and elsewhere for the situation on the streets, exaggerated in some ways. And I think people hearken back maybe to the time she was mayor. She did hold people accountable. Department heads, she expected results. And I think that’s what people are looking for is like we’re spending all this money, what are we getting? And that was the kind of question she would ask.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> She continued, like until the end of her life —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> There’s a mattress on the street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Holding everyone accountable. She would make that phone call, she would apparently at SFO, all of the workers there wanted to know which side of the plane she was coming in on so they can make sure the runway looked nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So they could go on the other side.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, just push it over there. But I mean, it is. And I think it really does stand in contrast to the type of politics that we see now, especially with the former president and the rhetoric we’re seeing from him. She really deeply respected not just the institution of the Senate, but our government and our democracy. And yeah, it’s a huge loss and a life incredibly lived. Okay, we will take a short break. When we come back, we’ll look ahead to talk about California’s new senator, Laphonza Butler. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Welcome back to Political Breakdown here with the politics dream team, Guy Marzorati and Scott Shafer and now we are going to talk about what is next for California, we have a new senator. But Guy I thought we could go back and remember why Gavin Newsom, our governor, was in kind of a pickle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Kind of boxed himself in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Tell us about the genesis of this appointment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah I mean, so this goes back to 2021 when Newsom was facing a recall in the early part of the year and made this pledge on the heels of having appointed Alex Padilla to fill Kamala Harris’ Senate seat that he would appoint a black woman should Feinstein’s seat open up. And it got it was controversial in the short term for people saying, well, you shouldn’t be jumping to any conclusions about DiFi. But in the you know, year since, it’s it has kind of box demand and it really culminated in this appearance on Meet the Press a couple of weeks ago where he was talking to Chuck Todd about this potential appointment. And he used the phrase interim appointment. And Chuck Todd followed up by saying, you know, you would not appoint anyone. And Newsom finished the sentence saying that would run again. And so somehow, in the weeks since, Newsom changed his mind and we can talk about maybe what played into that. But even before he announced Butler’s pick on Sunday, his office had already signaled whoever the name that comes out was going to be. They don’t have to make any promise as far as not running in 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, and I think the anger that was generated in 2021, you know, he appointed Padilla to take Kamala Harris seat and that left the Senate with no black women. Now, Padilla was historic in his own right. He’s the first Latino senator from California. But it did seem that Newsom was making that pledge to help himself in a recall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> There might have a been a recall happening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> There was a recall happening. And I’m sure Dianne Feinstein didn’t appreciate that, you know, being basically, you know, you’re kind of speculating about her having to leave the office one way or the other. And then, yeah, he walked it back and said he didn’t want to interfere by putting Barbara Lee in that seat, which is what a lot of women of color, black women in particular, were pushing for and so was Barbara Lee. Barbara Lee said, I will take that job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> We should say, Congresswoman Barbara Lee of Oakland who is running to replace Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> What’s curious is, on the merits, it didn’t entirely make sense to say you can only be an interim appointment. He never told Alex Padilla, you can only be an interim appointment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What is in from a point of putting somebody in a group that has historically struggled to win elections in a seat, it’s to give them the power of incumbency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> But what changed?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, I think Barbara Lee is maybe a little bit to his left. I mean, let’s say whoever he appoints, whoever it is, is going to be a reflection of him. And if they do things that aren’t out of sync with his own politics, he’s going to have to answer to that, in some ways. He may run for president one day. And I think Barbara Lee is probably a little more liberal than he would like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And probably older.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And also Nancy Pelosi. Let’s face it, Nancy Pelosi has endorsed Adam Schiff, and I think she probably leaned on him not to upset that apple cart —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Or to appoint Schiff. And I think, I do think some of this was new, some sort of exercising some independence from a lot of the party establishment who and it wasn’t like they were all lining up behind one person. But to have Pelosi out there publicly endorsing Schiff, to have Barbara Lee and her allies in the Congressional Black Caucus, calling on him very specifically and very angrily after he demurred. You know, I think that some of it was that. What changed, Guy? I don’t know exactly. One of my guesses is, might be that they talked to a lot of black women who said, I don’t want an interim job. I’m not going to give up the job I have now to take that and for what?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Knowing it would only be for thirteen months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> It’s condescending to to say, well, she’s free to run. Like, of course she’s free to run. She can make that choice on her own. With or without his permission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I got to say, and I and I think and I don’t think from what she said and from what I’ve heard, I don’t think that these conversations were directly with Butler before he offered her the position. But I do think once her name came up and he and his people in his inner circle started thinking about her, I mean, maybe that was what changed, was that they looked at her and said, we don’t want to put those handcuffs on her, right? And she is, I think, really a smart choice. I mean, not only is she very well respected in the California political community for her time leading SEIU and really her, I think, excellent negotiating skills at the table on things like the $15 minimum wage. She’s also our first openly lesbian senator. She is 44 years old and she has been running Emily’s List, a fund raising group. Right. So even though she does not have any household sort of name recognition, I think her ability to build it is probably way far ahead of a lot of potential candidates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> It is. But, you know, the time is getting short. You know, she’s got to if she’s going to run, she’s got to have a statement in by November. You know, I think the absolute deadline is December 8th. Yeah, it’s hard to put together a statewide operation. And then, you know, the governor would have to endorse her, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> She’ll have the name Senator next to her name on the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> A lot of earned media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> A lot of earned media. And I think, you know, for better or worse, the conversation I think, is now going to shift towards Barbara Lee. This was a loss for her not to get this appointment. I also think she’s really going to be splitting a lot of the supporters that Barbara Lee has, both voters and also kind of financial backers. I mean, talking to folks like California Donor Table, Aimee Allison, they’re not upset about Laphonza Butler’s appointment. They’re praising that and saying, oh, you know, we’re trying to figure out a situation in which we can support both of these candidates going forward. That’s tough and I could really see a situation where as we get closer to December, there starts to be calls for Barbara Lee, like, do you want to stay in this race if you’re still going to be in single digits? Because look, as the way the field is right now, it’s not going to take a whole lot to get into the top two primary. I know every Democrat is going to be wearing a Steve Garvey jersey from now until March, because if he gets in the race, I think that’s the only situation where you might have two Democrats. And I think, you know, for Butler, get to what? 20%, 25% of the vote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> It’ll be super interesting. I’m sure we’ll see a poll in the next few weeks with her name in it. Just to just get a sense of like who you know, I think we all it’s easy for us. You know, we’re steeped in this stuff to think that everyone is you know, I got a cup of coffee today and I was wearing a black suit because of the funeral, the memorial. And the woman said, oh, you’re wearing you got all dressed up. I said, Yeah, I’m going to a funeral. She goes, Oh, who died? I said, Dianne Feinstein. She looked at me like, Who is that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Oh, my Lyft driver knew exactly who Dianne Feinstein was, but I had not heard that she had passed away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> So it’s just a reality check.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah well we’ve been steeped in this and haven’t had a day off in two weeks. But I do think when you think about Laphonza Butler, I mean, part of this is, you know, going to be her job to introduce herself to people. And to your point, Scott, we know her already. She has been, as I said, the head for almost a decade. She led the largest labor union in the state, which really is sort of one of the biggest advocates for not just working people, but working people of color and women in particular. And, you know, when we spoke to Laphonza Butler back in 2019 here in Political Breakdown, she talked about kind of what led her to that work. And this is part of that conversation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laphonza Butler:\u003c/strong> My mom worked really hard. My dad died when I was 16 years old. He had heart disease. By the time he passed away, he’d had six heart attacks. He had a stroke, he had had a crow, he’d had a heart transplant, got a new heart from an 18 year old who died in a motorcycle accident. So my life was really lived through the eyes of a caregiver. My mother was my father’s caregiver in the last years of of his life and having to understand what families everyday go through when it when it comes to issues like health care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You know, I think when you listen to the fans of Butler, you get an authenticity about her. She’s not like the other people in the Senate, you know, which is sometimes criticized for being, you know, male Yale and pale. She comes from Mississippi, Magnolia, Mississippi. She went to Jackson State University. Her mom was a caregiver. Her dad died. She’s got real life experience. And that was also steeped in the labor movement, organizing nurses and janitors. And it’s it really is a completely different perspective that most U.S. senators have. And we’ll see if she runs or not. But I do think there’s an excitement about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And I think we have to think about we’re all here doing the political kind of chess game for her. This is a deeply personal decision. And she’s talked about this in the very few interviews she gave that she values her privacy. She is a black lesbian woman with a daughter. Her daughter was not at the swearing in. I wonder if that was not on purpose. I mean, this is not a time in America where you want to put your family out there to be vulnerable when you are part of those minorities. And so I do think that beyond the sort of political calculations, she’s going to be thinking hard about what kind what public service means to her and if this is worth what is was acknowledged today for Dianne Feinstein, it is something that your family is giving up as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> It must be hard just speaking of giving up, like give up a job, give up the job of being a United States senator when you had a taste of it for, you know, a few weeks, months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> It is just such a unique I mean, I can’t think of anyone else who has the legislative experience Laphonza Butler has, who’s not a politician.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Who’s never run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> More legislative experience. You could argue that half the lawmakers in Sacramento in terms of actually negotiating at the table and being in the mix and not just sort of taking a bill from an outside group and running it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> From what I heard today at the memorial service, she was definitely working the crowd looking like a candidate, you know, shaking hands, which Adam Schiff was as well. We saw him out there, too. But, yeah, I mean, this is new for her. It’s a new role. But, you know. It’s a different kind of like it’s a different kind of organizing. She’s been an organizer and that’s what campaigns are about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And so we don’t we know she worked for in tech for a little bit. We won’t gloss over that. There’s plenty of time to talk about that. I’m sure we’ll get a response from listeners if we don’t mention that, but just a minute left, guys. But we got to acknowledge the talk about political earthquakes. Kevin McCarthy is out as speaker. It is chaos in the House in Washington. We, you know, are seeing just I think I mean, talk of former President Trump becoming the next speaker. I mean, it’s wild. 30 seconds, Guy. What are you watching for?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> I’m watching for the vulnerable House Republicans in California who have stood in line with Kevin McCarthy on some really conservative votes over the last nine months now might be going free range.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And also with a lot less fundraising behind them, because McCarthy was, you know, had a huge haul of money for them to help prop them up. It’s a presidential year that could be more vulnerable anyway. So I think a lot of them are kind of nervous. And, you know, there’s fury on the Republican side. There were seven Republicans that voted to get rid of him and all the Democrats. And so we’re going to be talking to Nancy Pelosi next week. And it’ll be interesting to hear what she has to say. They took her hideaway office away. There’s usually a courtesy given to former speakers. So, yeah, it’s it is dysfunction junction back there in Washington for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> All right. We’re going to leave it there. Dianne Feinstein would not be happy to see it. I know that. That’s going to do it for this edition of Political Breakdown. We’re a production of KQED Public Radio. Thanks to Guy Marzorati as always, for joining us. Before we go, we do want to let folks know that our on stage interview with Congresswoman Pelosi is now Monday instead of Tuesday because she’s going to be back in D.C. so the House can maybe pick a new speaker.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, well, so we’ll be lots to talk to her about. We’re going to be talking with her about that and many other things that if you were planning to join us in person or watch online, you can visit KQED.org/live for more information. For today, our engineer is Christopher Beale, I’m Scott Shafer.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11963640/remembering-feinstein-and-californias-senate-question","authors":["3239","255","227"],"programs":["news_33544"],"categories":["news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_274","news_33277","news_177","news_22235"],"featImg":"news_11963646","label":"source_news_11963640"},"news_11963548":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11963548","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11963548","score":null,"sort":[1696543372000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"political-leaders-memorialize-dianne-feinstein-at-sf-city-hall","title":"Dianne Feinstein Memorialized at SF City Hall by Family, Friends and Blue Angels","publishDate":1696543372,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Dianne Feinstein Memorialized at SF City Hall by Family, Friends and Blue Angels | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>As the Blue Angels roared overhead, about 1,500 mourners gathered in front of San Francisco City Hall Thursday to remember the late \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90\">Sen. Dianne Feinstein\u003c/a>, who made history here as the city’s first female mayor in the aftermath of two political assassinations that shook San Francisco to the core, and then as California’s first woman Senator, a post she held for 31 years. She was the longest-serving female senator in U.S. history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state’s biggest political stars, including Vice President Kamala Harris and Gov. Gavin Newsom, were among those gathered to pay respects to a woman who broke numerous glass ceilings over her decades in politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Dianne commanded respect and she gave respect,” Harris said. “She was a serious and gracious person who welcomed debate and discussion, but always required that it would be well informed and studied. And I believe that this city where she started had a lot to do with that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To the uninitiated here, I will let you in on a well-known secret. San Francisco politics is rough and tumble,” Harris added, to laughter from the memorial’s attendees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963600\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963600\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619.jpg\" alt=\"Woman speaks at lectern in front of building\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1281\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Vice President Kamala Harris speaks as Mayor London Breed listens during the funeral for California Senator Dianne Feinstein at City Hall in San Francisco on Thursday, Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(San Francisco Chronicle )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90#:~:text=Dianne%20Feinstein%2C%20a%20champion%20of,She%20was%2090%20years%20old.\">Feinstein died last week\u003c/a> in her Washington, D.C., home at age 90. She had struggled in recent years to fulfill her senatorial obligations as her health declined — but in true Feinstein fashion, she showed up to cast a vote hours before her death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11946670,news_11963451\" label=\"Related Stories\"]That tenacity and grit was honored by many of the speakers Thursday, who in addition to Harris included San Francisco Mayor London Breed, U.S. Representative Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Feinstein’s only grandchild, Eileen Mariano.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Senator Feinstein, that is her official title. It’s how Californians and people all over the world knew her. But to us San Franciscans, she was Mayor Dianne Feinstein,” Breed said in opening remarks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Breed recounted an old memory of playing French horn in a junior high school band in San Francisco, which was nicknamed the “Dianne Feinstein Band.” She \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/liveblog/dianne-feinstein-dies#back-when-london-breed-played-in-dianne-feinsteins-band\">told KQED last week\u003c/a> that playing for Feinstein was one of her most cherished memories.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Feinstein as a role model\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Feinstein inspired a generation of women, including Breed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She showed us a world where women lead, where we lift each other up, so that girls like me could follow in her footsteps,” Breed said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>High-profile memorial attendees also included Democratic Reps. Barbara Lee and Adam Schiff, who are competing for Feinstein’s Senate seat. Other attendees included Christine Pelosi, former Mayor Willie Brown, California Attorney General Rob Bonta, Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg, and newly sworn-in U.S. Sen. Laphonza Butler, who Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11963215/laphonza-butler-senate-appointment-draws-praise-speculation-over-2024-plans\">appointed this week\u003c/a> to Feinstein’s seat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963613\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963613\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946.jpg\" alt=\"A group of four fighter jets flies over an ornate domed building.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Blue Angels fly over a memorial for Senator Dianne Feinstein outside of City Hall in San Francisco on Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Feinstein was also honored in the skies above, as the Blue Angels soared over the memorial. They are set to perform a “Missing Woman” formation this weekend in her memory, an appropriate homage to Feinstein who is credited with bringing Fleet Week to San Francisco in 1981.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a recorded message played across the City Hall lawn, President Joe Biden noted Feinstein’s work on the assault weapons ban, her environmental stewardship, and her leadership for women.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Based on her character in action up close and personal, she was always tough, prepared, rigorous, compassionate. She always served the people of California and our nation for the right reasons to make life better for everyday people and ensure America stood for freedom, transparency and justice at home and abroad,” Biden said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She was something else,” he added. “And she was a dear friend. God bless Dianne Feinstein.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Stories of resilience, sage advice and hydrangeas\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Schumer told a story about Feinstein he said was “quintessentially her.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein injured her ankle on a morning walk to Lake Tahoe. Some might go to the doctor, Schumer said, but Feinstein said “‘forget it.'” — even after hearing her bone “pop.” It was the week of the Lake Tahoe Summit, what she considered a “signature” event to convene leaders in the California public and private sectors that she started after taking office in the Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Schumer asked how she got through the day, he remembered Feinstein answering, “‘I just did.'”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963598\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963598\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Feinstein-Funderal04A2819-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Two women hug at a memorial. \" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Katherine Feinstein, right facing camera, hugs Yvonne Banks at her mother Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s memorial outside of San Francisco City Hall in San Francisco on Thursday, Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(San Francisco Chronicle)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Schumer said there were a lot of words to describe Feinstein: strong, unflappable, winning, fierce. But one quality stood out to him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Her integrity made her sparkle like a diamond in the Senate,” said Schumer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi was Feinstein’s close ally for decades, and spoke of many accolades after her death, from the San Francisco Giants and 49ers to the thousands who attended her casket-viewing in City Hall, Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But of all the memorial’s speakers, she spoke the most personally of her longtime friend. She called Feinstein a “matchmaker.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Dianne loved cultivating people, and flowers. She cultivated relationships, bringing people together officially, personally, and romantically,” Pelosi said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein also loved flowers, Pelosi said, and had “the most fabulous” hydrangeas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We all have gotten great advice from Dianne, but the most constant advice I ever got from her again and again was, ‘Nancy, you don’t always have to be the one going out on the attack. Let some other people do that from time to time. Why don’t you do that?'” Pelosi said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963616\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963616\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862.jpg\" alt=\"A large crowd of people and one person shielding their face from the sun using a piece of paper with the photo of a person on it.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Guests shield themselves from the sun with handouts at the memorial for Senator Dianne Feinstein outside of City Hall in San Francisco on Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Feinstein also loved San Francisco, she said. Feinstein was such a “commanding” mayor for “ten powerful years,” that when her term was up and men began to run for mayor, Pelosi recalled schoolchildren saying, “can a man be mayor of San Francisco?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pelosi accompanied Feinstein’s body on a military plane back from Washington, D.C., earlier this week, along with her daughter Katherine Feinstein and the senator’s chief of staff, James Sauls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, Pelosi, a longtime San Francisco neighbor of the senator, said Feinstein lived, and died, on her own terms — and recalled her as not only a stateswoman, but a friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Wednesday, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11963451/hundreds-honor-dianne-feinstein-as-she-lies-in-state-at-sf-city-hall\">Feinstein laid in state inside City Hall\u003c/a>, where members of the public mourned alongside political leaders to pay their respects.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A granddaughter’s farewell\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Thursday’s memorial was closed out by Feinstein’s granddaughter, Eileen Mariano.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To me, she will be remembered as the most incredible grandmother. Minutes after I was born at the hospital, she exclaimed to my mom and dad, ‘Oh wow, she looks just like me! You should change her name to Dianne,'” Mariano said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963601\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963601\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150.jpg\" alt=\"Woman speaks in front of a lectern while four people look to her.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1281\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eileen Mariano, Dianne Feinstein’s granddaughter, speaks as Mayor London Breed, Vice President Kamala Harris, Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi react during the funeral for California Senator Dianne Feinstein at City Hall in San Francisco on Thursday, Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(San Francisco Chronicle)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>For her entire life, Mariano said she enjoyed an “effortless connection” with her grandmother. Feinstein sketched flowers with her granddaughter, cut her hair and would teach her about San Francisco history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“At the end of the day, we would curl up, close on the couch, and watch a movie or our favorite TV show. And when it was time to go to sleep, she would say goodnight and she would always sing me the song ‘You Are My Sunshine,'” Mariano said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Your family loves you. We are so proud of you. We miss you. And you will always, always be my sunshine,” Mariano said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The late Senator will be buried at a private funeral later today, according to Feinstein’s office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Hundreds of mourners gathered at San Francisco's City Hall to remember the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who was the city's first female mayor and then one of California's first female senators.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1696548792,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":37,"wordCount":1433},"headData":{"title":"Dianne Feinstein Memorialized at SF City Hall by Family, Friends and Blue Angels | KQED","description":"Hundreds of mourners gathered at San Francisco's City Hall to remember the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who was the city's first female mayor and then one of California's first female senators.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11963548/political-leaders-memorialize-dianne-feinstein-at-sf-city-hall","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>As the Blue Angels roared overhead, about 1,500 mourners gathered in front of San Francisco City Hall Thursday to remember the late \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90\">Sen. Dianne Feinstein\u003c/a>, who made history here as the city’s first female mayor in the aftermath of two political assassinations that shook San Francisco to the core, and then as California’s first woman Senator, a post she held for 31 years. She was the longest-serving female senator in U.S. history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state’s biggest political stars, including Vice President Kamala Harris and Gov. Gavin Newsom, were among those gathered to pay respects to a woman who broke numerous glass ceilings over her decades in politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Dianne commanded respect and she gave respect,” Harris said. “She was a serious and gracious person who welcomed debate and discussion, but always required that it would be well informed and studied. And I believe that this city where she started had a lot to do with that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To the uninitiated here, I will let you in on a well-known secret. San Francisco politics is rough and tumble,” Harris added, to laughter from the memorial’s attendees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963600\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963600\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619.jpg\" alt=\"Woman speaks at lectern in front of building\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1281\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-5-scaled-e1696542654619-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Vice President Kamala Harris speaks as Mayor London Breed listens during the funeral for California Senator Dianne Feinstein at City Hall in San Francisco on Thursday, Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(San Francisco Chronicle )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90#:~:text=Dianne%20Feinstein%2C%20a%20champion%20of,She%20was%2090%20years%20old.\">Feinstein died last week\u003c/a> in her Washington, D.C., home at age 90. She had struggled in recent years to fulfill her senatorial obligations as her health declined — but in true Feinstein fashion, she showed up to cast a vote hours before her death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11946670,news_11963451","label":"Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>That tenacity and grit was honored by many of the speakers Thursday, who in addition to Harris included San Francisco Mayor London Breed, U.S. Representative Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Feinstein’s only grandchild, Eileen Mariano.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Senator Feinstein, that is her official title. It’s how Californians and people all over the world knew her. But to us San Franciscans, she was Mayor Dianne Feinstein,” Breed said in opening remarks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Breed recounted an old memory of playing French horn in a junior high school band in San Francisco, which was nicknamed the “Dianne Feinstein Band.” She \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/liveblog/dianne-feinstein-dies#back-when-london-breed-played-in-dianne-feinsteins-band\">told KQED last week\u003c/a> that playing for Feinstein was one of her most cherished memories.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Feinstein as a role model\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Feinstein inspired a generation of women, including Breed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She showed us a world where women lead, where we lift each other up, so that girls like me could follow in her footsteps,” Breed said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>High-profile memorial attendees also included Democratic Reps. Barbara Lee and Adam Schiff, who are competing for Feinstein’s Senate seat. Other attendees included Christine Pelosi, former Mayor Willie Brown, California Attorney General Rob Bonta, Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg, and newly sworn-in U.S. Sen. Laphonza Butler, who Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11963215/laphonza-butler-senate-appointment-draws-praise-speculation-over-2024-plans\">appointed this week\u003c/a> to Feinstein’s seat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963613\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963613\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946.jpg\" alt=\"A group of four fighter jets flies over an ornate domed building.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-015-KQED-e1696544061946-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Blue Angels fly over a memorial for Senator Dianne Feinstein outside of City Hall in San Francisco on Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Feinstein was also honored in the skies above, as the Blue Angels soared over the memorial. They are set to perform a “Missing Woman” formation this weekend in her memory, an appropriate homage to Feinstein who is credited with bringing Fleet Week to San Francisco in 1981.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a recorded message played across the City Hall lawn, President Joe Biden noted Feinstein’s work on the assault weapons ban, her environmental stewardship, and her leadership for women.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Based on her character in action up close and personal, she was always tough, prepared, rigorous, compassionate. She always served the people of California and our nation for the right reasons to make life better for everyday people and ensure America stood for freedom, transparency and justice at home and abroad,” Biden said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She was something else,” he added. “And she was a dear friend. God bless Dianne Feinstein.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Stories of resilience, sage advice and hydrangeas\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Schumer told a story about Feinstein he said was “quintessentially her.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein injured her ankle on a morning walk to Lake Tahoe. Some might go to the doctor, Schumer said, but Feinstein said “‘forget it.'” — even after hearing her bone “pop.” It was the week of the Lake Tahoe Summit, what she considered a “signature” event to convene leaders in the California public and private sectors that she started after taking office in the Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Schumer asked how she got through the day, he remembered Feinstein answering, “‘I just did.'”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963598\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963598\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Feinstein-Funderal04A2819-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Two women hug at a memorial. \" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Katherine Feinstein, right facing camera, hugs Yvonne Banks at her mother Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s memorial outside of San Francisco City Hall in San Francisco on Thursday, Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(San Francisco Chronicle)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Schumer said there were a lot of words to describe Feinstein: strong, unflappable, winning, fierce. But one quality stood out to him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Her integrity made her sparkle like a diamond in the Senate,” said Schumer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi was Feinstein’s close ally for decades, and spoke of many accolades after her death, from the San Francisco Giants and 49ers to the thousands who attended her casket-viewing in City Hall, Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But of all the memorial’s speakers, she spoke the most personally of her longtime friend. She called Feinstein a “matchmaker.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Dianne loved cultivating people, and flowers. She cultivated relationships, bringing people together officially, personally, and romantically,” Pelosi said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein also loved flowers, Pelosi said, and had “the most fabulous” hydrangeas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We all have gotten great advice from Dianne, but the most constant advice I ever got from her again and again was, ‘Nancy, you don’t always have to be the one going out on the attack. Let some other people do that from time to time. Why don’t you do that?'” Pelosi said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963616\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963616\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862.jpg\" alt=\"A large crowd of people and one person shielding their face from the sun using a piece of paper with the photo of a person on it.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231005-FeinsteinMemorial-002-KQED-e1696548761862-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Guests shield themselves from the sun with handouts at the memorial for Senator Dianne Feinstein outside of City Hall in San Francisco on Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Feinstein also loved San Francisco, she said. Feinstein was such a “commanding” mayor for “ten powerful years,” that when her term was up and men began to run for mayor, Pelosi recalled schoolchildren saying, “can a man be mayor of San Francisco?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pelosi accompanied Feinstein’s body on a military plane back from Washington, D.C., earlier this week, along with her daughter Katherine Feinstein and the senator’s chief of staff, James Sauls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, Pelosi, a longtime San Francisco neighbor of the senator, said Feinstein lived, and died, on her own terms — and recalled her as not only a stateswoman, but a friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Wednesday, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11963451/hundreds-honor-dianne-feinstein-as-she-lies-in-state-at-sf-city-hall\">Feinstein laid in state inside City Hall\u003c/a>, where members of the public mourned alongside political leaders to pay their respects.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A granddaughter’s farewell\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Thursday’s memorial was closed out by Feinstein’s granddaughter, Eileen Mariano.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To me, she will be remembered as the most incredible grandmother. Minutes after I was born at the hospital, she exclaimed to my mom and dad, ‘Oh wow, she looks just like me! You should change her name to Dianne,'” Mariano said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963601\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963601\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150.jpg\" alt=\"Woman speaks in front of a lectern while four people look to her.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1281\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/feinstein-funeral1005-7-scaled-e1696542491150-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eileen Mariano, Dianne Feinstein’s granddaughter, speaks as Mayor London Breed, Vice President Kamala Harris, Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi react during the funeral for California Senator Dianne Feinstein at City Hall in San Francisco on Thursday, Oct. 5, 2023. \u003ccite>(San Francisco Chronicle)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>For her entire life, Mariano said she enjoyed an “effortless connection” with her grandmother. Feinstein sketched flowers with her granddaughter, cut her hair and would teach her about San Francisco history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“At the end of the day, we would curl up, close on the couch, and watch a movie or our favorite TV show. And when it was time to go to sleep, she would say goodnight and she would always sing me the song ‘You Are My Sunshine,'” Mariano said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Your family loves you. We are so proud of you. We miss you. And you will always, always be my sunshine,” Mariano said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The late Senator will be buried at a private funeral later today, according to Feinstein’s office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11963548/political-leaders-memorialize-dianne-feinstein-at-sf-city-hall","authors":["3239","11690"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_274","news_27626","news_33296","news_33295"],"featImg":"news_11963594","label":"news"},"news_11963451":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11963451","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11963451","score":null,"sort":[1696459938000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"hundreds-honor-dianne-feinstein-as-she-lies-in-state-at-sf-city-hall","title":"Hundreds Honor Dianne Feinstein as She Lies in State at SF City Hall","publishDate":1696459938,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Hundreds Honor Dianne Feinstein as She Lies in State at SF City Hall | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>San Franciscans paid their respects starting early Wednesday morning to honor the late U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90\">died last week at age 90\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside City Hall, a large American flag hung beside two city fire trucks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fire Chief Jeanine Nicholson noted that as mayor, Feinstein had a special relationship with the San Francisco Fire Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She loved the fire department. She carried a helmet and a turnout coat wherever she went,” Nicholson said. “She said that she called for a third alarm one time at a fire she pulled up to, and I believe it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nicholson wasn’t in the department at the time, but she said, as mayor, Feinstein was pivotal in recruiting more female firefighters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The first five women in the fire department that came in 1987 — they were nicknamed ‘Feinstein’s finest.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963468\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A long line of people snakes through an ornate building.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963468\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Visitors stand in line to pay their respects to Sen. Dianne Feinstein as her body lies in state at City Hall in San Francisco on Wednesday. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A steady stream of mourners filed past a flag-draped coffin holding Feinstein’s body inside the City Hall rotunda, as a string quartet played on the grand staircase. Erica Moreno of Sacramento brought her three daughters along to honor Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would like my daughters to know that she was a trailblazer and that when you have tenacity, big dreams and willingness, you can accomplish all,” Moreno said. “She was an excellent role model.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Andrew Xia, 27, wasn’t born when Feinstein was mayor, but he appreciates her accomplishments in her long political career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just remember that her long Senate career especially, and her contributions to San Francisco when she was mayor, in terms of gay rights, in terms of transit, a lot of it really impacts all of us, even in the present day,” Xia said. “Without her, I don’t think we’d have cable cars or the street cars today.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963465\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"People write at a table in front of a picture of a person with their arms raised.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963465\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mourners write notes and leave flowers as Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s body lies in state at City Hall in San Francisco on Wednesday. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Some who turned out worked for Feinstein as staff members or, in the case of Dick Morten, a business leader during her tenure in City Hall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was at the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce and the vice president for public affairs, and we worked together on a number of programs and other times we opposed each other. But she was always very gracious and a good friend during that time,” Morten said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='Related Stories' tag='dianne-feinstein']A tragedy ushered Feinstein into the mayor’s office in 1978. As president of the Board of Supervisors, she announced the news that Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk had been shot and killed. Feinstein, along with Barbara Boxer, would later go on to make history, as California’s first women elected to the Senate in 1992, in what was known as the Year of the Woman, following the controversial Senate confirmation hearing for Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite her groundbreaking achievements over more than five decades in public office, Feinstein was sometimes criticized as being too conservative, or for staying in office too long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>None of that matters to Paula Farmer, who came to pay her respects.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s just been an amazing run. And no matter the conflict that people have had with her last years, I think that the work that she did outweighed all of that,” Farmer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963464\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person with long hair cries in front of a casket draped in an American flag.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963464\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi holds her hands to her face as she pays respect to Sen. Dianne Feinstein as the late senator lies in state for public viewing at City Hall in San Francisco on Oct. 4, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Among the first to pay tribute to Feinstein was U.S. House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi, who appeared visibly shaken by the loss of her friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She was a person of greatness. She was a stateswoman. She was a national figure. But she was as personal as the poorest person in our city. She always cared,” Pelosi said after signing a book of condolences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As mayor of the city, she came in under the most gruesome circumstances, and yet she gave comfort and strength to the city at that difficult time,” Pelosi added. “She and I were not on the same place on the political spectrum. So we had our fun with it all. My family loved her. We were neighbors, we were friends.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963467\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED.jpg\" alt='A large group of people salute a casket draped in an American flag as it enters a building with the words \"City Hall\" over the door.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963467\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The body of Sen. Dianne Feinstein is carried into City Hall to lie in state in San Francisco on Wednesday, Oct. 4, 2023. Feinstein was the longest-serving female senator and longest-serving senator from California before her passing. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Pelosi will be among those eulogizing Feinstein at a memorial that will be held at 1 p.m. on Thursday. Other speakers will include Vice President Kamala Harris, San Francisco Mayor London Breed, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and recorded remarks from President Joe Biden. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The memorial, which was originally planned to be open to the public, will now be open only to invited guests “due to increased security,” representatives from Feinstein’s office said in a statement Wednesday evening. The service will be livestreamed \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmnUrjQzKvk\">here\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story has been updated.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A steady stream of mourners filed past a flag-draped coffin holding Feinstein's body inside the City Hall rotunda on Wednesday. The late senator's memorial service will take place Thursday.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1696465084,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":922},"headData":{"title":"Hundreds Honor Dianne Feinstein as She Lies in State at SF City Hall | KQED","description":"A steady stream of mourners filed past a flag-draped coffin holding Feinstein's body inside the City Hall rotunda on Wednesday. The late senator's memorial service will take place Thursday.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11963451/hundreds-honor-dianne-feinstein-as-she-lies-in-state-at-sf-city-hall","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>San Franciscans paid their respects starting early Wednesday morning to honor the late U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90\">died last week at age 90\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside City Hall, a large American flag hung beside two city fire trucks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fire Chief Jeanine Nicholson noted that as mayor, Feinstein had a special relationship with the San Francisco Fire Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She loved the fire department. She carried a helmet and a turnout coat wherever she went,” Nicholson said. “She said that she called for a third alarm one time at a fire she pulled up to, and I believe it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nicholson wasn’t in the department at the time, but she said, as mayor, Feinstein was pivotal in recruiting more female firefighters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The first five women in the fire department that came in 1987 — they were nicknamed ‘Feinstein’s finest.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963468\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A long line of people snakes through an ornate building.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963468\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-051-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Visitors stand in line to pay their respects to Sen. Dianne Feinstein as her body lies in state at City Hall in San Francisco on Wednesday. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A steady stream of mourners filed past a flag-draped coffin holding Feinstein’s body inside the City Hall rotunda, as a string quartet played on the grand staircase. Erica Moreno of Sacramento brought her three daughters along to honor Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would like my daughters to know that she was a trailblazer and that when you have tenacity, big dreams and willingness, you can accomplish all,” Moreno said. “She was an excellent role model.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Andrew Xia, 27, wasn’t born when Feinstein was mayor, but he appreciates her accomplishments in her long political career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just remember that her long Senate career especially, and her contributions to San Francisco when she was mayor, in terms of gay rights, in terms of transit, a lot of it really impacts all of us, even in the present day,” Xia said. “Without her, I don’t think we’d have cable cars or the street cars today.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963465\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"People write at a table in front of a picture of a person with their arms raised.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963465\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-027-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mourners write notes and leave flowers as Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s body lies in state at City Hall in San Francisco on Wednesday. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Some who turned out worked for Feinstein as staff members or, in the case of Dick Morten, a business leader during her tenure in City Hall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was at the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce and the vice president for public affairs, and we worked together on a number of programs and other times we opposed each other. But she was always very gracious and a good friend during that time,” Morten said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","tag":"dianne-feinstein"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>A tragedy ushered Feinstein into the mayor’s office in 1978. As president of the Board of Supervisors, she announced the news that Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk had been shot and killed. Feinstein, along with Barbara Boxer, would later go on to make history, as California’s first women elected to the Senate in 1992, in what was known as the Year of the Woman, following the controversial Senate confirmation hearing for Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite her groundbreaking achievements over more than five decades in public office, Feinstein was sometimes criticized as being too conservative, or for staying in office too long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>None of that matters to Paula Farmer, who came to pay her respects.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s just been an amazing run. And no matter the conflict that people have had with her last years, I think that the work that she did outweighed all of that,” Farmer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963464\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person with long hair cries in front of a casket draped in an American flag.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963464\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231004-FeinsteinLieinState-015-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi holds her hands to her face as she pays respect to Sen. Dianne Feinstein as the late senator lies in state for public viewing at City Hall in San Francisco on Oct. 4, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Among the first to pay tribute to Feinstein was U.S. House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi, who appeared visibly shaken by the loss of her friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She was a person of greatness. She was a stateswoman. She was a national figure. But she was as personal as the poorest person in our city. She always cared,” Pelosi said after signing a book of condolences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As mayor of the city, she came in under the most gruesome circumstances, and yet she gave comfort and strength to the city at that difficult time,” Pelosi added. “She and I were not on the same place on the political spectrum. So we had our fun with it all. My family loved her. We were neighbors, we were friends.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963467\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED.jpg\" alt='A large group of people salute a casket draped in an American flag as it enters a building with the words \"City Hall\" over the door.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963467\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231004-Feinstein-Lying-in-State-006-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The body of Sen. Dianne Feinstein is carried into City Hall to lie in state in San Francisco on Wednesday, Oct. 4, 2023. Feinstein was the longest-serving female senator and longest-serving senator from California before her passing. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Pelosi will be among those eulogizing Feinstein at a memorial that will be held at 1 p.m. on Thursday. Other speakers will include Vice President Kamala Harris, San Francisco Mayor London Breed, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and recorded remarks from President Joe Biden. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The memorial, which was originally planned to be open to the public, will now be open only to invited guests “due to increased security,” representatives from Feinstein’s office said in a statement Wednesday evening. The service will be livestreamed \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmnUrjQzKvk\">here\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story has been updated.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11963451/hundreds-honor-dianne-feinstein-as-she-lies-in-state-at-sf-city-hall","authors":["255"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_274","news_27626","news_17968","news_38"],"featImg":"news_11963433","label":"news"},"news_11963237":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11963237","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11963237","score":null,"sort":[1696366855000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"us-congress-members-are-far-older-than-international-counterparts-why","title":"US Congress Members Are Far Older Than International Counterparts. Why?","publishDate":1696366855,"format":"standard","headTitle":"US Congress Members Are Far Older Than International Counterparts. Why? | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Dianne Feinstein, who died Thursday night, was the longest-serving U.S. senator in California history. She was 90.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein is celebrated for her legacy of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90\">breaking the glass ceiling for women in politics\u003c/a> and for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11963044/feinstein-remembered-for-mentoring-californias-women-leaders\">mentoring an entire generation of female leaders in the state\u003c/a>. But her \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/dianne-feinstein-senate-17079487.php\">ability to do the job was called into question\u003c/a> in the final years of her career, although most of her colleagues declined to say so publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Notably, Feinstein, who became a nonagenarian in June, had to step away from the Senate Judiciary Committee’s work confirming judicial nominees when she was hospitalized in the spring due to shingles. Her absence led to a backlog and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946577/feinsteins-prolonged-absence-frustrates-senate-democra\">prompted some of her Democrat colleagues, like South Bay Rep. Ro Khanna, to ask her to resign\u003c/a>. In August, she was hospitalized after a fall at her San Francisco home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In April, after a Texas judge \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/abortion-pill-mifepristone-supreme-court-texas-436fe0de292379b469159a3ed7b62fef\">issued a ruling intended to roll back the Food and Drug Administration approval of the abortion pill mifepristone\u003c/a>, Khanna said that the “extremist judge’s ruling has made it clear that Democrats must act with speed and urgency to confirm judicial nominees who will protect the right to an abortion.” \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946577/feinsteins-prolonged-absence-frustrates-senate-democra\">He said that Feinstein was “unable to fulfill her duties and for the good of the people, she should resign.”\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Read more: \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/liveblog/dianne-feinstein-dies#heres-why-youre-likely-to-vote-4-times-on-feinsteins-replacement\">Here’s why you’re likely to vote four times on Feinstein’s replacement\u003c/a>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This scenario of octogenarian politicians being asked to step aside to make way for younger representatives is not unique to Feinstein. In fact, in the early 1980s, another California politician, Republican S.I. Hayakawa, received similar \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11940460/long-before-feinstein-another-california-senator-faced-questions-about-mental-fitness\">pressure to retire at the end of his short-term stint as senator\u003c/a> after he was seen napping during meetings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This summer, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, 81, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/08/31/1196943532/sen-mitch-mcconnell-appears-to-freeze-again-while-talking-to-reporters-in-kentuc\">appeared to freeze twice in front of the press\u003c/a>. Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi, who turns 84 in March, has\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11960895/nancy-pelosi-is-running-again-should-she-step-aside\"> faced criticism for announcing her intention to run again next year\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Axios, the U.S. Senate \u003ca href=\"https://www.axios.com/2023/09/29/feinstein-dies-oldest-senators-mcconnell\">now has three octogenarians and one nonagenarian\u003c/a>. More than half of the Senate is over 60.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For those of us who want to see a new generation of leaders, it’s hard,” Aimee Allison from She the People, a group dedicated to getting women of color in office, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11960895/nancy-pelosi-is-running-again-should-she-step-aside\">told KQED after Pelosi said she would run again\u003c/a>. “We do need a new generation of leadership that looks like who lives in California, in the country. And that’s going to require people in their eighties to make space.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The median age of Congress, 1919 to 2023\" aria-label=\"Interactive line chart\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-vOwTl\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/vOwTl/6/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border: none;\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" data-external=\"1\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Senate has 100 members, two from each state. Eight politicians, including Feinstein, are from the “Silent Generation,” the label given to people \u003ca href=\"https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/30/house-gets-younger-senate-gets-older-a-look-at-the-age-and-generation-of-lawmakers-in-the-118th-congress/\">born between 1928 and 1945\u003c/a>. According to the Pew Research Center, 66 are Baby Boomers, the demographic cohort born between 1946 and 1964.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the House, almost 45% of the 435 representatives are Baby Boomers. Twenty-one are from Feinstein’s generation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"What is the age makeup of the current Congress?\" aria-label=\"Multiple Donuts\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-H0dqn\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/H0dqn/5/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border: none;\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" data-external=\"1\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a big gap between the age of the voting age population and the age of representatives. And the age of representatives are significantly older,” said Daniel Stockemer, a professor at the University of Ottawa who studies demographics in governments across the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Is the US an outlier among other countries?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“The U.S. is one of the oldest democracies when it comes to the representatives, or the members of Congress,” Stockemer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Congress convened in January 2023, the average age of those serving in the House of Representatives was 58, according to Stockemer. In the Senate, the average age was 65.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To give you the average age (of representatives) around the world, [it’s] around 50,” he said. “While representatives in nearly every country are older than the voting age population, the U.S. is a relatively extreme case.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stockemer also runs a database that tracks the ages of legislators, which the \u003cem>Financial Times\u003c/em> analyzed in September, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ft.com/content/faa721e6-4fcf-4b9b-ae39-9ad6c44ed971\">showing that the United States has the oldest representatives among G7 countries\u003c/a>. According to \u003ca href=\"https://warpdataset.com/\">Stockemer’s latest available data\u003c/a>, the median age for U.S. legislators is 58. Japan’s most recent available data show the country was close behind at 57, in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Canada, which \u003ca href=\"https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-canada-senators-age-term-limits-1.6920640#:~:text=Canadian%20age%20limit,legislation%20brought%20forward%20in%201965.\">set the mandatory retirement for senators at 75\u003c/a>, the median age of lawmakers was 54 in 2021. In Germany, it was 49.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the United Kingdom in 2019, the median age was 50. In both France and Italy in 2022, the median age was around 49.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why is it hard for younger people to run for office?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Senior politicians can undoubtedly bring experience to their office, said Stockemer. It’s more that younger politicians need their spot too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stockemer said that his data “just showed that there are some discrepancies in representation [and] it might want to be addressed.” He frames it as “a deficit in democratic equality.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The laws in the U.S. also prevent younger candidates from running, Stockemer pointed out. Candidates must be 25 to run for the House and 30 for the Senate. Also, getting elected requires networking and financing that is an inherent disadvantage for younger people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s basically no limit on how much candidates can spend, and they spend more and more each election,” Stockemer said. “It’s very hard for younger members to keep up. … They don’t have the connections yet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Incumbent politicians also have a major advantage in the U.S. since there is little turnover. Feinstein had been a senator since 1992.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='Related Stories' tag='dianne-feinstein']And this can lead to a cycle. When younger people are not represented, they don’t turn out to vote. Current politicians may not reach out to them when formulating their policies, because there is no incentive, Stockemer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The median age in the U.S. \u003ca href=\"https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023/population-estimates-characteristics.html\">is just under 39\u003c/a>. When policies are determined by a demographic that’s older on average than the population it serves, it can result in laws that are more geared to the interests of older people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stockemer points to the lack of age diversity among U.S. politicians as one of many reasons why the interests of younger generations, like environmental protections and student loan relief, may not be a priority in their decision-making.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The best example would be gun control,” said Stockemer. “I would bet probably if you had a [Congress] that’s 20 years younger, there would be a higher chance that this is seriously taken up and a higher chance that there would be some serious laws.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He acknowledged that age is of course not the only barrier to such change, given longstanding Republican opposition to gun control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We relate to people more who are the same age in general,” he said. “And the same is how we want to relate to politicians. That’s why senior people relate better to the current Congress, because it’s older.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story has been updated.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Even without Dianne Feinstein, the Senate has 3 octogenarians and 1 nonagenarian. More than half the Senate is over 60. What's keeping younger people out of office?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1696456235,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":true,"iframeSrcs":["https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/vOwTl/6/","https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/H0dqn/5/"],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":34,"wordCount":1209},"headData":{"title":"US Congress Members Are Far Older Than International Counterparts. Why? | KQED","description":"Even without Dianne Feinstein, the Senate has 3 octogenarians and 1 nonagenarian. More than half the Senate is over 60. What's keeping younger people out of office?","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11963237/us-congress-members-are-far-older-than-international-counterparts-why","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Dianne Feinstein, who died Thursday night, was the longest-serving U.S. senator in California history. She was 90.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein is celebrated for her legacy of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90\">breaking the glass ceiling for women in politics\u003c/a> and for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11963044/feinstein-remembered-for-mentoring-californias-women-leaders\">mentoring an entire generation of female leaders in the state\u003c/a>. But her \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/dianne-feinstein-senate-17079487.php\">ability to do the job was called into question\u003c/a> in the final years of her career, although most of her colleagues declined to say so publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Notably, Feinstein, who became a nonagenarian in June, had to step away from the Senate Judiciary Committee’s work confirming judicial nominees when she was hospitalized in the spring due to shingles. Her absence led to a backlog and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946577/feinsteins-prolonged-absence-frustrates-senate-democra\">prompted some of her Democrat colleagues, like South Bay Rep. Ro Khanna, to ask her to resign\u003c/a>. In August, she was hospitalized after a fall at her San Francisco home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In April, after a Texas judge \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/abortion-pill-mifepristone-supreme-court-texas-436fe0de292379b469159a3ed7b62fef\">issued a ruling intended to roll back the Food and Drug Administration approval of the abortion pill mifepristone\u003c/a>, Khanna said that the “extremist judge’s ruling has made it clear that Democrats must act with speed and urgency to confirm judicial nominees who will protect the right to an abortion.” \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946577/feinsteins-prolonged-absence-frustrates-senate-democra\">He said that Feinstein was “unable to fulfill her duties and for the good of the people, she should resign.”\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Read more: \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/liveblog/dianne-feinstein-dies#heres-why-youre-likely-to-vote-4-times-on-feinsteins-replacement\">Here’s why you’re likely to vote four times on Feinstein’s replacement\u003c/a>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This scenario of octogenarian politicians being asked to step aside to make way for younger representatives is not unique to Feinstein. In fact, in the early 1980s, another California politician, Republican S.I. Hayakawa, received similar \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11940460/long-before-feinstein-another-california-senator-faced-questions-about-mental-fitness\">pressure to retire at the end of his short-term stint as senator\u003c/a> after he was seen napping during meetings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This summer, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, 81, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/08/31/1196943532/sen-mitch-mcconnell-appears-to-freeze-again-while-talking-to-reporters-in-kentuc\">appeared to freeze twice in front of the press\u003c/a>. Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi, who turns 84 in March, has\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11960895/nancy-pelosi-is-running-again-should-she-step-aside\"> faced criticism for announcing her intention to run again next year\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Axios, the U.S. Senate \u003ca href=\"https://www.axios.com/2023/09/29/feinstein-dies-oldest-senators-mcconnell\">now has three octogenarians and one nonagenarian\u003c/a>. More than half of the Senate is over 60.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For those of us who want to see a new generation of leaders, it’s hard,” Aimee Allison from She the People, a group dedicated to getting women of color in office, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11960895/nancy-pelosi-is-running-again-should-she-step-aside\">told KQED after Pelosi said she would run again\u003c/a>. “We do need a new generation of leadership that looks like who lives in California, in the country. And that’s going to require people in their eighties to make space.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The median age of Congress, 1919 to 2023\" aria-label=\"Interactive line chart\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-vOwTl\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/vOwTl/6/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border: none;\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" data-external=\"1\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Senate has 100 members, two from each state. Eight politicians, including Feinstein, are from the “Silent Generation,” the label given to people \u003ca href=\"https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/30/house-gets-younger-senate-gets-older-a-look-at-the-age-and-generation-of-lawmakers-in-the-118th-congress/\">born between 1928 and 1945\u003c/a>. According to the Pew Research Center, 66 are Baby Boomers, the demographic cohort born between 1946 and 1964.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the House, almost 45% of the 435 representatives are Baby Boomers. Twenty-one are from Feinstein’s generation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"What is the age makeup of the current Congress?\" aria-label=\"Multiple Donuts\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-H0dqn\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/H0dqn/5/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border: none;\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" data-external=\"1\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a big gap between the age of the voting age population and the age of representatives. And the age of representatives are significantly older,” said Daniel Stockemer, a professor at the University of Ottawa who studies demographics in governments across the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Is the US an outlier among other countries?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“The U.S. is one of the oldest democracies when it comes to the representatives, or the members of Congress,” Stockemer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Congress convened in January 2023, the average age of those serving in the House of Representatives was 58, according to Stockemer. In the Senate, the average age was 65.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To give you the average age (of representatives) around the world, [it’s] around 50,” he said. “While representatives in nearly every country are older than the voting age population, the U.S. is a relatively extreme case.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stockemer also runs a database that tracks the ages of legislators, which the \u003cem>Financial Times\u003c/em> analyzed in September, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ft.com/content/faa721e6-4fcf-4b9b-ae39-9ad6c44ed971\">showing that the United States has the oldest representatives among G7 countries\u003c/a>. According to \u003ca href=\"https://warpdataset.com/\">Stockemer’s latest available data\u003c/a>, the median age for U.S. legislators is 58. Japan’s most recent available data show the country was close behind at 57, in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Canada, which \u003ca href=\"https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-canada-senators-age-term-limits-1.6920640#:~:text=Canadian%20age%20limit,legislation%20brought%20forward%20in%201965.\">set the mandatory retirement for senators at 75\u003c/a>, the median age of lawmakers was 54 in 2021. In Germany, it was 49.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the United Kingdom in 2019, the median age was 50. In both France and Italy in 2022, the median age was around 49.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why is it hard for younger people to run for office?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Senior politicians can undoubtedly bring experience to their office, said Stockemer. It’s more that younger politicians need their spot too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stockemer said that his data “just showed that there are some discrepancies in representation [and] it might want to be addressed.” He frames it as “a deficit in democratic equality.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The laws in the U.S. also prevent younger candidates from running, Stockemer pointed out. Candidates must be 25 to run for the House and 30 for the Senate. Also, getting elected requires networking and financing that is an inherent disadvantage for younger people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s basically no limit on how much candidates can spend, and they spend more and more each election,” Stockemer said. “It’s very hard for younger members to keep up. … They don’t have the connections yet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Incumbent politicians also have a major advantage in the U.S. since there is little turnover. Feinstein had been a senator since 1992.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","tag":"dianne-feinstein"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>And this can lead to a cycle. When younger people are not represented, they don’t turn out to vote. Current politicians may not reach out to them when formulating their policies, because there is no incentive, Stockemer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The median age in the U.S. \u003ca href=\"https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023/population-estimates-characteristics.html\">is just under 39\u003c/a>. When policies are determined by a demographic that’s older on average than the population it serves, it can result in laws that are more geared to the interests of older people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stockemer points to the lack of age diversity among U.S. politicians as one of many reasons why the interests of younger generations, like environmental protections and student loan relief, may not be a priority in their decision-making.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The best example would be gun control,” said Stockemer. “I would bet probably if you had a [Congress] that’s 20 years younger, there would be a higher chance that this is seriously taken up and a higher chance that there would be some serious laws.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He acknowledged that age is of course not the only barrier to such change, given longstanding Republican opposition to gun control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We relate to people more who are the same age in general,” he said. “And the same is how we want to relate to politicians. That’s why senior people relate better to the current Congress, because it’s older.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story has been updated.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11963237/us-congress-members-are-far-older-than-international-counterparts-why","authors":["11867"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_20149","news_274","news_17968","news_24023"],"featImg":"news_11963277","label":"news"},"news_11963215":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11963215","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11963215","score":null,"sort":[1696355093000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"laphonza-butler-senate-appointment-draws-praise-speculation-over-2024-plans","title":"Laphonza Butler Sworn In to Fill Feinstein's Seat as Her Selection Draws Speculation Over 2024 Plans","publishDate":1696355093,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Laphonza Butler Sworn In to Fill Feinstein’s Seat as Her Selection Draws Speculation Over 2024 Plans | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>Updated 1:25 p.m. Tuesday\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laphonza Butler, a former labor leader and Democratic strategist, was sworn in as California’s new U.S. Senator on Tuesday, days after she was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11963066/gov-newsom-names-laphonza-butler-to-dianne-feinsteins-senate-seat\">appointed by Gov. Gavin Newsom to serve the remainder of a term\u003c/a> left open by the death of Sen. Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the U.S. Capitol, Butler took her oath from Vice President Kamala Harris, whose presidential campaign she helped lead in 2019. Butler, who is the first Black, openly lesbian member of the U.S. Senate, takes office amid mounting speculation over whether she will run for a full term next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Flanked by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and California Senator Alex Padilla, Butler recited her oath to applause in the Senate chamber.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can’t help but think of how proud Senator Feinstein would be, seeing someone as brilliant, as accomplished, as history-making as Laphonza Butler take her place,” Schumer said. “I know that our old colleague is looking down at this moment with pride, now that her seat is in good hands.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked Monday if it would be good for the state if Butler decided to run, Newsom said “she’ll make that decision,” and reiterated that he placed “no constraints, no expectations” on Butler’s future plans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Former State Sen. Mark Leno\"]‘To have a Black queer woman in the U.S. Senate, just doing her job, it’s a very strong statement that our country is better than the hateful actions, unfortunately, of what I believe to be a very loud-mouth minority in this country.’[/pullquote]“I wouldn’t have appointed someone I didn’t respect and admire, someone I couldn’t back up and vouch for,” Newsom said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response to a question about potential candidacy, Matt Wing, a spokesperson for Butler, said in an email that she was focused on honoring the legacy of Feinstein and preparing to take office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Politics can wait,” he added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the window to jump into the race is narrowing. Candidates have to file for the seat by Dec. 8 and voting begins in early February. Butler would have to quickly set up a campaign to compete with a field that includes Democratic Reps. Adam Schiff, Katie Porter, and Barbara Lee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Butler’s candidacy could especially complicate the path forward for Lee, who has trailed Schiff and Porter in early polling and fundraising. Many Lee supporters who pushed Newsom to fulfill his promise of appointing a Black woman by tapping the East Bay progressive icon were nonetheless pleased with the governor’s selection of Butler.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Gavin did take us seriously. … and now we’re in this position of having this really, really, really dope leader,” said Molly Watson, deputy director for the California Donor Table, a network of progressive donors which has endorsed Lee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The entrance of another Black progressive candidate into the race, Watson said, could force some difficult strategic decisions by the donors she works with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Hopefully we’re able to figure something out here in California and not end up with Adam [Schiff] or Katie [Porter],” Watson said. “I’m not exactly sure what the dynamic is going to look like — this is absolutely going to have an effect on it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11963066,news_11739580\" label=\"Related Stories\"]Lee told KQED she spoke with Butler on Monday and wished her well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But what I’m doing is being singularly focused like I have been on winning my campaign for the Senate,” Lee said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Labor leaders cheered the appointment of Butler, who helmed SEIU 2015, a union of long-term caregivers, and later SEIU California, the state’s largest umbrella union.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She understood the plight of low-wage workers,” said Carmen Roberts, executive vice president of SEIU 2015. “She listened and she had a voice and used that voice to carry those values — the things that were valuable to the care workers — to the governor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SEIU has yet to endorse a candidate for Senate, and Roberts did not want to speculate about Butler’s political future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I would be excited if she was one of the candidates,” she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other labor leaders said Butler’s entrance could lead to a reshuffling of endorsements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Senator Maria Elena Durazo, the former executive vice president of UNITE-HERE International, has already backed Schiff but didn’t rule out a future dual endorsement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wouldn’t discount doing it either,” Durazo said. “It’s possible.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Butler’s crowning achievement at SEIU was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/10912372/brown-unions-announce-deal-on-15-per-hour-minimum-wage\">her role in high-stakes negotiations to raise the minimum wage\u003c/a> to $15 an hour in 2016.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former State Sen. Mark Leno, who wrote the minimum wage bill, said Butler’s drive to succeed played a key role — as well as labor’s gamble. Under Butler’s direction, the campaign used the threat of a minimum wage ballot measure to catapult a similar bill to approval in the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She kept her eye on the prize,” Leno said. “There were all the other voices and all of this noise going on with regard to some of the internal tensions at SEIU. She just kept focused that we needed to get this done because it would impact so many millions of California workers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leno, who is an openly gay politician, said Butler will “dazzle” the electorate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To have a Black queer woman in the U.S. Senate, just doing her job, it’s a very strong statement that our country is better than the hateful actions, unfortunately, of what I believe to be a very loud-mouth minority in this country,” Leno said. “And every day in the U.S. Senate, Laphonza Butler will be a reminder that we are better and bigger than that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Criticism of Butler focused in part on her residency in Maryland. She moved to the East Coast in 2021 to lead EMILYs List but still owns a house in California. Butler is required to be a state resident, and Newsom said she would re-register to vote in California before taking office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assembly Republican Leader James Gallagher dubbed Butler “Maryland 3rd US Senator,” in a statement, adding “Out of 40 million California residents, Gavin Newsom seriously couldn’t find one to serve in the Senate?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other Republicans acknowledged that Butler’s residency wasn’t the only reason for their displeasure at Newsom’s pick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Of course it gives me concern, but I think any appointment that he would have made, because I share a different perspective than he does politically, I would have had concern,” said Tom Lackey (R-Palmdale).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From a legal perspective, to represent the state, Butler must establish that California is her residence — and being registered to vote here is a key part of that, said Loyola Law School Professor Jessica Levinson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we look at the Constitution and we look at the qualifications, the Constitution talks about being an inhabitant when you are elected. And I think that actually embraces more than a mere election. It embraces the entire official decision-making process, including the decision to appoint,” she said. “So if Gov. Newsom wants to use a belt-and-suspenders approach, what he should really do is make sure that the official appointment occurs after Ms. Butler changes her voter registration.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Tyche Hendricks contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Gov. 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Gavin Newsom to serve the remainder of a term\u003c/a> left open by the death of Sen. Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the U.S. Capitol, Butler took her oath from Vice President Kamala Harris, whose presidential campaign she helped lead in 2019. Butler, who is the first Black, openly lesbian member of the U.S. Senate, takes office amid mounting speculation over whether she will run for a full term next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Flanked by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and California Senator Alex Padilla, Butler recited her oath to applause in the Senate chamber.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can’t help but think of how proud Senator Feinstein would be, seeing someone as brilliant, as accomplished, as history-making as Laphonza Butler take her place,” Schumer said. “I know that our old colleague is looking down at this moment with pride, now that her seat is in good hands.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked Monday if it would be good for the state if Butler decided to run, Newsom said “she’ll make that decision,” and reiterated that he placed “no constraints, no expectations” on Butler’s future plans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘To have a Black queer woman in the U.S. Senate, just doing her job, it’s a very strong statement that our country is better than the hateful actions, unfortunately, of what I believe to be a very loud-mouth minority in this country.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Former State Sen. 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Many Lee supporters who pushed Newsom to fulfill his promise of appointing a Black woman by tapping the East Bay progressive icon were nonetheless pleased with the governor’s selection of Butler.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Gavin did take us seriously. … and now we’re in this position of having this really, really, really dope leader,” said Molly Watson, deputy director for the California Donor Table, a network of progressive donors which has endorsed Lee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The entrance of another Black progressive candidate into the race, Watson said, could force some difficult strategic decisions by the donors she works with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Hopefully we’re able to figure something out here in California and not end up with Adam [Schiff] or Katie [Porter],” Watson said. “I’m not exactly sure what the dynamic is going to look like — this is absolutely going to have an effect on it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11963066,news_11739580","label":"Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Lee told KQED she spoke with Butler on Monday and wished her well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But what I’m doing is being singularly focused like I have been on winning my campaign for the Senate,” Lee said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Labor leaders cheered the appointment of Butler, who helmed SEIU 2015, a union of long-term caregivers, and later SEIU California, the state’s largest umbrella union.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She understood the plight of low-wage workers,” said Carmen Roberts, executive vice president of SEIU 2015. “She listened and she had a voice and used that voice to carry those values — the things that were valuable to the care workers — to the governor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SEIU has yet to endorse a candidate for Senate, and Roberts did not want to speculate about Butler’s political future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I would be excited if she was one of the candidates,” she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other labor leaders said Butler’s entrance could lead to a reshuffling of endorsements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Senator Maria Elena Durazo, the former executive vice president of UNITE-HERE International, has already backed Schiff but didn’t rule out a future dual endorsement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wouldn’t discount doing it either,” Durazo said. “It’s possible.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Butler’s crowning achievement at SEIU was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/10912372/brown-unions-announce-deal-on-15-per-hour-minimum-wage\">her role in high-stakes negotiations to raise the minimum wage\u003c/a> to $15 an hour in 2016.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former State Sen. Mark Leno, who wrote the minimum wage bill, said Butler’s drive to succeed played a key role — as well as labor’s gamble. Under Butler’s direction, the campaign used the threat of a minimum wage ballot measure to catapult a similar bill to approval in the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She kept her eye on the prize,” Leno said. “There were all the other voices and all of this noise going on with regard to some of the internal tensions at SEIU. She just kept focused that we needed to get this done because it would impact so many millions of California workers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leno, who is an openly gay politician, said Butler will “dazzle” the electorate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To have a Black queer woman in the U.S. Senate, just doing her job, it’s a very strong statement that our country is better than the hateful actions, unfortunately, of what I believe to be a very loud-mouth minority in this country,” Leno said. “And every day in the U.S. Senate, Laphonza Butler will be a reminder that we are better and bigger than that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Criticism of Butler focused in part on her residency in Maryland. She moved to the East Coast in 2021 to lead EMILYs List but still owns a house in California. Butler is required to be a state resident, and Newsom said she would re-register to vote in California before taking office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assembly Republican Leader James Gallagher dubbed Butler “Maryland 3rd US Senator,” in a statement, adding “Out of 40 million California residents, Gavin Newsom seriously couldn’t find one to serve in the Senate?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other Republicans acknowledged that Butler’s residency wasn’t the only reason for their displeasure at Newsom’s pick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Of course it gives me concern, but I think any appointment that he would have made, because I share a different perspective than he does politically, I would have had concern,” said Tom Lackey (R-Palmdale).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From a legal perspective, to represent the state, Butler must establish that California is her residence — and being registered to vote here is a key part of that, said Loyola Law School Professor Jessica Levinson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we look at the Constitution and we look at the qualifications, the Constitution talks about being an inhabitant when you are elected. And I think that actually embraces more than a mere election. It embraces the entire official decision-making process, including the decision to appoint,” she said. “So if Gov. Newsom wants to use a belt-and-suspenders approach, what he should really do is make sure that the official appointment occurs after Ms. Butler changes her voter registration.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Tyche Hendricks contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11963215/laphonza-butler-senate-appointment-draws-praise-speculation-over-2024-plans","authors":["227","11690"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_274","news_27626","news_16","news_33277","news_17968","news_24023"],"featImg":"news_11963268","label":"news"},"news_11963044":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11963044","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11963044","score":null,"sort":[1696244452000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"feinstein-remembered-for-mentoring-californias-women-leaders","title":"Feinstein Mentored a Generation of California's Women Leaders","publishDate":1696244452,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Feinstein Mentored a Generation of California’s Women Leaders | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Twenty five years before she was sworn in as the mayor of Oakland, Libby Schaaf drove with a friend to Los Angeles for the state Democratic Party convention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was April 1990 and Schaaf, who was about to enroll in law school, was on her way to the first convention where eligible delegates could endorse candidates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was so excited to go to that Democratic convention and cast my ballot to endorse Dianne Feinstein for governor,” Schaaf told me. “I wanted us to see the first woman governor of California, something I still haven’t seen.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Schaaf, an Oakland native, some of her earliest memories seeing a powerful, female leader were of Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I became the mayor, she immediately reached out to me,” recalled Schaaf, who served two terms. “She was incredibly generous with access and she was always generous with advice.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Feinstein, who served in the upper chamber of Congress for 30 years, died Thursday. She was 90.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein is a legend in California politics, and her death elicited an outpouring of comments and commentary that revealed how deeply respected she was. Women in both state and local politics, including Schaaf, joined the chorus to thank Feinstein for mentoring them. Feinstein paved the road for so many women leaders. That part of her legacy is unimpeachable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors in 1969, Feinstein became the board’s first female president in 1970, and after the assassination of Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk, she became acting mayor. The next year, she became the first woman elected mayor. It was the beginning of a career of historic firsts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was the first woman elected to represent California in the U.S. Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was the first woman to serve as chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was the first woman to serve as chair of the Senate’s Intelligence Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As she ascended to the highest peaks of the federal government, she reserved time to dole out advice to women leaders, especially those elected to leadership positions for the first time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11962925\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11962925\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Three people smile and pose for a photo together.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED.jpg 1026w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">From left, former Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and former Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O’Malley in 2015. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Libby Schaaf)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At a Friday press conference, Mayor London Breed, the second woman to serve as San Francisco mayor, who became acting mayor following the death of Mayor Ed Lee in 2017, said one of the first calls she received was from Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We had a very long discussion about just what she went through, how she made decisions, how difficult it was,” Breed said. “And she provided that support and that mentorship to make sure that I was prepared to step up at a difficult time for our city.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1990, Feinstein was locked in a tight battle for the Democratic nomination with John Van de Kamp, then the state attorney general. He opposed capital punishment, but Feinstein, a moderate Democrat, stunned the liberal delegates with her position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Yes, I support the death penalty,” she said drawing boos, according to the\u003cem> Los Angeles Times\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Feinstein easily won the nomination. She lost the election to Republican candidate Sen. Pete Wilson, but she won the 1992 special election to complete Wilson’s term. In 2018, she reversed her support of capital punishment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein frequently hosted luncheons so women leaders in the Bay Area and the state could have a space to connect. Schaaf received her first invitation in 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I tried to emulate what I considered the Feinstein Formula for crisis response — project calm competence and have your five-point plan ready for how you’ll prevent it from ever happening again,” said Schaaf, who dealt with the Oakland Police Department’s sexual misconduct in 2016 when the city went through three police chiefs in nine days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I am here to run a Police Department, not a frat house,” Schaaf said at a press conference, displaying a Feinstein-like go-your-own-way feistiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11962931\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11962931\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-03-KQED-800x1045.jpg\" alt=\"Two people smile and pose for a photo together.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1045\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-03-KQED-800x1045.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-03-KQED-160x209.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-03-KQED.jpg 980w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Former Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf (left) and Sen. Dianne Feinstein in Feinstein’s Senate office in Washington, DC, in 2021. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Libby Schaaf)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In 2018, Schaaf, who is participating in a one-year fellowship at Harvard University while teaching at the UC Berkeley Goldman School of Public Policy, tipped off the public to a federal immigration sweep. At the time, I wrote in the \u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em>, “We’re at an immigration code red, and Schaaf was right to sound the alarm.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaaf recalled Feinstein inviting her and Nancy O’Malley, the first woman elected as district attorney in Alameda County, to travel with her to a meeting about teenage sex trafficking in Los Angeles. Schaaf barely made it on time, putting Feinstein in a bad mood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Her staff warned me: You don’t show up on time for the Senator, you come early,” Schaaf said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She is one feisty, tough cookie with a razor sharp mind for policy details,” Schaaf continued. “Meeting with her, you had to come prepared. She’d be hugging you and the next second she’d be drilling you like the worst law school professor giving you a pop quiz on whatever the policy issue was of the moment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Supervisor Catherine Stefani was a student at Saint Mary’s College of California in Moraga in 1990 when she volunteered for Feinstein’s gubernatorial campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve just always looked up to her as this strong woman who’s paved the way for women in politics, and has been unapologetically passionate about gun violence prevention and things that a lot of people were too scared to take on,” she told me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In March 2018, Stefani was at March for Our Lives, a rally held in San Francisco and other cities for gun control legislation in the wake of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., where 17 people were killed. Stefani approached Feinstein, thanking her for the 1994 federal assault weapons ban. Feinstein told Stefani she was going to endorse her campaign for supervisor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was just so validating, and a special moment for me,” said Stefani, who was elected in 2018. “Since that moment, she’s mentored me in my career here in San Francisco and has always been someone that I can go to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I feel so blessed and so grateful that someone who I admired for so long since college — that somehow my path led me to actually be in her presence. I just can’t begin to tell you how grateful I am for that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stefani, a staunch gun control advocate, said Feinstein showed her and others that women have a place in politics — and to never give up on issues that seem almost impossible to solve, like gun violence in America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11962930\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11962930\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A person in a purple dress speaks at a podium in front of a group of people assembled in front of an ornate building.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Malia Cohen speaks at a Women’s Equality Day event encouraging more women to vote, on the steps of City Hall in San Francisco on Aug. 25, 2022.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I will forever work on this issue for all the reasons I have been, but to continue her legacy and her determination to not let the gun lobby own this issue,” she said. “And to not let the gun lobby continue to destroy the lives of so many people in our country.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Malia Cohen, the California State Controller who served two terms on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, was on an almost six-hour flight from Toronto to San Francisco when news of Feinstein’s death began circulating Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can’t believe that she’s gone,” she wrote in response to my text. “I just landed [and] my phone is flooded with text messages.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90\">KQED’s Feinstein obituary\u003c/a> written by my colleague Scott Shafer, he noted that Cohen recalled meeting Feinstein on an elementary school field trip to City Hall. It was the mid-1980s, and Feinstein told Cohen’s class one of them could be mayor one day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are always pivotal moments in your life, particularly as a child, that really do shape you and that moment shaped me,” Cohen told me in a phone interview. “There are very few women that you can look at from San Francisco that can say, ‘Hey, I ran for office, and you can do it too.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cohen was sworn in as a supervisor by Katherine Feinstein, Feinstein’s daughter, who is a retired judge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Whenever my path crossed with the senator, she gave unsolicited advice on any and everything,” said Cohen who, like Feinstein, was a fellow with the Coro Foundation, an organization that provides young people with political experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11962944\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11962944\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED-800x800.jpg\" alt=\"Two people smile and pose for a photo together.\" width=\"800\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED-800x800.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED-160x160.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Anaheim Mayor Ashleigh E. Aitken (left) and Sen. Dianne Feinstein. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Mayor Ashleigh E. Aitken)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When Ashleigh Aitken was elected as the mayor of Anaheim in November 2022, she became the first woman mayor in the city’s 166-year history and she inherited a mess. In August, Harish “Harry” Singh Sidhu, the former mayor, pleaded guilty to obstructing an FBI corruption investigation into the $150 million sale of Angel Stadium to the owner of the Major League Baseball team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aitken, who interned for Feinstein on Capitol Hill in 1996 when she was a college sophomore, was ready for the daunting task of restoring trust in the mayor’s office. She learned from Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I like to not compare what I walked into on day one with the tragedy that she had to embrace in the loss of a personal friend,” Aitken told me. “I think what I really learned from her is that in times of crisis, it’s the most important time to be consistent and true to your values and your ethics.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aitken told me that she met Feinstein when she was a young girl, probably 12. She said when Feinstein was running for Senate she became close friends with Aitken’s parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Meeting someone of that stature, when you’re young, really shows you that all doors are open,” Aitken said. “I mean, you can always be taught in school that women can do anything, but when you actually see somebody out there as an example in public service not afraid to tangle in all male arenas, it has an impact.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein’s work ethic was revered, but it is how she chose to work that should be a lesson to politicians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I hope her death serves as a reminder to all of us that are in public service that there is real, true strength and courage in being collaborative, and I think that’s the one thing that she really stood for that we have in some ways lost,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Correction: An earlier version of the column incorrectly stated when Dianne Feinstein became first female president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. It was in 1970.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"'I hope her death serves as a reminder to all of us that are in public service that there is real, true strength and courage in being collaborative,' said Ashleigh Aitken who was elected as the mayor of Anaheim in November 2022.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1696471730,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":47,"wordCount":1900},"headData":{"title":"Feinstein Mentored a Generation of California's Women Leaders | KQED","description":"'I hope her death serves as a reminder to all of us that are in public service that there is real, true strength and courage in being collaborative,' said Ashleigh Aitken who was elected as the mayor of Anaheim in November 2022.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"source":"Commentary","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11963044/feinstein-remembered-for-mentoring-californias-women-leaders","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Twenty five years before she was sworn in as the mayor of Oakland, Libby Schaaf drove with a friend to Los Angeles for the state Democratic Party convention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was April 1990 and Schaaf, who was about to enroll in law school, was on her way to the first convention where eligible delegates could endorse candidates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was so excited to go to that Democratic convention and cast my ballot to endorse Dianne Feinstein for governor,” Schaaf told me. “I wanted us to see the first woman governor of California, something I still haven’t seen.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Schaaf, an Oakland native, some of her earliest memories seeing a powerful, female leader were of Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I became the mayor, she immediately reached out to me,” recalled Schaaf, who served two terms. “She was incredibly generous with access and she was always generous with advice.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Feinstein, who served in the upper chamber of Congress for 30 years, died Thursday. She was 90.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein is a legend in California politics, and her death elicited an outpouring of comments and commentary that revealed how deeply respected she was. Women in both state and local politics, including Schaaf, joined the chorus to thank Feinstein for mentoring them. Feinstein paved the road for so many women leaders. That part of her legacy is unimpeachable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors in 1969, Feinstein became the board’s first female president in 1970, and after the assassination of Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk, she became acting mayor. The next year, she became the first woman elected mayor. It was the beginning of a career of historic firsts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was the first woman elected to represent California in the U.S. Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was the first woman to serve as chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was the first woman to serve as chair of the Senate’s Intelligence Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As she ascended to the highest peaks of the federal government, she reserved time to dole out advice to women leaders, especially those elected to leadership positions for the first time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11962925\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11962925\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Three people smile and pose for a photo together.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-01-KQED.jpg 1026w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">From left, former Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and former Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O’Malley in 2015. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Libby Schaaf)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At a Friday press conference, Mayor London Breed, the second woman to serve as San Francisco mayor, who became acting mayor following the death of Mayor Ed Lee in 2017, said one of the first calls she received was from Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We had a very long discussion about just what she went through, how she made decisions, how difficult it was,” Breed said. “And she provided that support and that mentorship to make sure that I was prepared to step up at a difficult time for our city.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1990, Feinstein was locked in a tight battle for the Democratic nomination with John Van de Kamp, then the state attorney general. He opposed capital punishment, but Feinstein, a moderate Democrat, stunned the liberal delegates with her position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Yes, I support the death penalty,” she said drawing boos, according to the\u003cem> Los Angeles Times\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Feinstein easily won the nomination. She lost the election to Republican candidate Sen. Pete Wilson, but she won the 1992 special election to complete Wilson’s term. In 2018, she reversed her support of capital punishment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein frequently hosted luncheons so women leaders in the Bay Area and the state could have a space to connect. Schaaf received her first invitation in 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I tried to emulate what I considered the Feinstein Formula for crisis response — project calm competence and have your five-point plan ready for how you’ll prevent it from ever happening again,” said Schaaf, who dealt with the Oakland Police Department’s sexual misconduct in 2016 when the city went through three police chiefs in nine days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I am here to run a Police Department, not a frat house,” Schaaf said at a press conference, displaying a Feinstein-like go-your-own-way feistiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11962931\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11962931\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-03-KQED-800x1045.jpg\" alt=\"Two people smile and pose for a photo together.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1045\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-03-KQED-800x1045.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-03-KQED-160x209.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-03-KQED.jpg 980w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Former Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf (left) and Sen. Dianne Feinstein in Feinstein’s Senate office in Washington, DC, in 2021. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Libby Schaaf)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In 2018, Schaaf, who is participating in a one-year fellowship at Harvard University while teaching at the UC Berkeley Goldman School of Public Policy, tipped off the public to a federal immigration sweep. At the time, I wrote in the \u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em>, “We’re at an immigration code red, and Schaaf was right to sound the alarm.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaaf recalled Feinstein inviting her and Nancy O’Malley, the first woman elected as district attorney in Alameda County, to travel with her to a meeting about teenage sex trafficking in Los Angeles. Schaaf barely made it on time, putting Feinstein in a bad mood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Her staff warned me: You don’t show up on time for the Senator, you come early,” Schaaf said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She is one feisty, tough cookie with a razor sharp mind for policy details,” Schaaf continued. “Meeting with her, you had to come prepared. She’d be hugging you and the next second she’d be drilling you like the worst law school professor giving you a pop quiz on whatever the policy issue was of the moment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Supervisor Catherine Stefani was a student at Saint Mary’s College of California in Moraga in 1990 when she volunteered for Feinstein’s gubernatorial campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve just always looked up to her as this strong woman who’s paved the way for women in politics, and has been unapologetically passionate about gun violence prevention and things that a lot of people were too scared to take on,” she told me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In March 2018, Stefani was at March for Our Lives, a rally held in San Francisco and other cities for gun control legislation in the wake of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., where 17 people were killed. Stefani approached Feinstein, thanking her for the 1994 federal assault weapons ban. Feinstein told Stefani she was going to endorse her campaign for supervisor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was just so validating, and a special moment for me,” said Stefani, who was elected in 2018. “Since that moment, she’s mentored me in my career here in San Francisco and has always been someone that I can go to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I feel so blessed and so grateful that someone who I admired for so long since college — that somehow my path led me to actually be in her presence. I just can’t begin to tell you how grateful I am for that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stefani, a staunch gun control advocate, said Feinstein showed her and others that women have a place in politics — and to never give up on issues that seem almost impossible to solve, like gun violence in America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11962930\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11962930\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A person in a purple dress speaks at a podium in front of a group of people assembled in front of an ornate building.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/015_KQED_WomensEqualityDayCityHall_08252022-KQED.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Malia Cohen speaks at a Women’s Equality Day event encouraging more women to vote, on the steps of City Hall in San Francisco on Aug. 25, 2022.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I will forever work on this issue for all the reasons I have been, but to continue her legacy and her determination to not let the gun lobby own this issue,” she said. “And to not let the gun lobby continue to destroy the lives of so many people in our country.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Malia Cohen, the California State Controller who served two terms on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, was on an almost six-hour flight from Toronto to San Francisco when news of Feinstein’s death began circulating Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can’t believe that she’s gone,” she wrote in response to my text. “I just landed [and] my phone is flooded with text messages.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11946670/dianne-feinstein-californias-longest-serving-us-senator-dies-at-age-90\">KQED’s Feinstein obituary\u003c/a> written by my colleague Scott Shafer, he noted that Cohen recalled meeting Feinstein on an elementary school field trip to City Hall. It was the mid-1980s, and Feinstein told Cohen’s class one of them could be mayor one day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are always pivotal moments in your life, particularly as a child, that really do shape you and that moment shaped me,” Cohen told me in a phone interview. “There are very few women that you can look at from San Francisco that can say, ‘Hey, I ran for office, and you can do it too.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cohen was sworn in as a supervisor by Katherine Feinstein, Feinstein’s daughter, who is a retired judge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Whenever my path crossed with the senator, she gave unsolicited advice on any and everything,” said Cohen who, like Feinstein, was a fellow with the Coro Foundation, an organization that provides young people with political experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11962944\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11962944\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED-800x800.jpg\" alt=\"Two people smile and pose for a photo together.\" width=\"800\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED-800x800.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED-160x160.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/230929-DIANNE-FEINSTEIN-MENTORSHIP-04-KQED.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Anaheim Mayor Ashleigh E. Aitken (left) and Sen. Dianne Feinstein. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Mayor Ashleigh E. Aitken)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When Ashleigh Aitken was elected as the mayor of Anaheim in November 2022, she became the first woman mayor in the city’s 166-year history and she inherited a mess. In August, Harish “Harry” Singh Sidhu, the former mayor, pleaded guilty to obstructing an FBI corruption investigation into the $150 million sale of Angel Stadium to the owner of the Major League Baseball team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aitken, who interned for Feinstein on Capitol Hill in 1996 when she was a college sophomore, was ready for the daunting task of restoring trust in the mayor’s office. She learned from Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I like to not compare what I walked into on day one with the tragedy that she had to embrace in the loss of a personal friend,” Aitken told me. “I think what I really learned from her is that in times of crisis, it’s the most important time to be consistent and true to your values and your ethics.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aitken told me that she met Feinstein when she was a young girl, probably 12. She said when Feinstein was running for Senate she became close friends with Aitken’s parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Meeting someone of that stature, when you’re young, really shows you that all doors are open,” Aitken said. “I mean, you can always be taught in school that women can do anything, but when you actually see somebody out there as an example in public service not afraid to tangle in all male arenas, it has an impact.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein’s work ethic was revered, but it is how she chose to work that should be a lesson to politicians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I hope her death serves as a reminder to all of us that are in public service that there is real, true strength and courage in being collaborative, and I think that’s the one thing that she really stood for that we have in some ways lost,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Correction: An earlier version of the column incorrectly stated when Dianne Feinstein became first female president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. It was in 1970.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11963044/feinstein-remembered-for-mentoring-californias-women-leaders","authors":["11770"],"categories":["news_28250","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_274","news_27626"],"featImg":"news_11962926","label":"source_news_11963044"},"news_11962887":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11962887","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11962887","score":null,"sort":[1696240827000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-legacy-dianne-feinstein-leaves-behind-in-the-bay-area","title":"The Legacy Dianne Feinstein Leaves Behind in the Bay Area","publishDate":1696240827,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The Legacy Dianne Feinstein Leaves Behind in the Bay Area | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\n\u003cp>On Thursday night, Sen. Dianne Feinstein passed away at age 90. Before becoming a U.S. Senator in 1992, she was best known for her time as San Francisco mayor. Today, we revisit an episode with KQED’s Scott Shafer about how she got her start in local politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC3980513829&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Links:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/liveblog/dianne-feinstein-dies\">Senator Dianne Feinstein Dies at 90: Live Updates.\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11962877/11962877-revision-v1\">What Feinstein’s Death Means For Control of the Senate and the Looming Government Shutdown.\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13845645/dianne-feinstein-jello-biafra-san-francisco-punk\">How San Francisco Punk Reacted to Dianne Feinstein in the 1970s.\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:\u003c/b> I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the Bay. Local news to Keep You Rooted. Condolences and tributes have been pouring in for Senator Dianne Feinstein, who died in her Washington, D.C., home at the age of 90. Feinstein served in the U.S. Senate for more than 30 years while she was in office. She was a champion of gun control and a trailblazer for women in politics. But by the end of her life, she was a controversial figure. Some Democrats who hoped she would step aside for a new generation grew angry and frustrated with her for continuing to stay in office, even as her health declined. At one point, though, Feinstein was the next generation, a woman of many firsts who was breaking glass ceilings for those behind her in local, state and national politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dianne Feinstein: \u003c/b>I look to building San Francisco’s future through leadership, honesty and creativity. So let’s end once and for all the nonsense that a woman is not capable of providing the strength and toughness necessary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:\u003c/b> Today, we’re revisiting a conversation from back in March. Our senior editor, Alan Monticello, talks with KQED’s Scott Shafer about Dianne Feinstein’s San Francisco roots and the legacy she leaves behind in the Bay Area. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> Hi. This is Alan Montecillo, senior editor of The Bay. We’ve been planning this episode about DianneFeinstein for some time now. But a few days ago, we got some breaking news about her. On Thursday, Senator Feinstein announced that she’s been admitted to a hospital in the Bay Area to receive treatment for shingles. In a statement, she said she was diagnosed last month and that she expects to make a full recovery and return to Washington later on in March. For more updates on this and other breaking news stories, check out KQED.org or tune in to 88.5 FM. All right. Here’s the show.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> I’m Alan Montecillo in for Ericka Cruz Guevarra, and welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. By now, you probably know that Senator Dianne Feinstein is retiring at the end of her term next year after representing California in the U.S. Senate since 1992. But before she was in Washington, Feinstein was known best for her time in San Francisco in the seventies and eighties. She led the city through some difficult and turbulent times. She also became well known across the country for being one of just a few women in elected office.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> I look to building San Francisco’s future through leadership, honesty and creativity. So, let’s end once and for all the nonsense that a woman is not capable of providing the strength and toughness necessary to do this.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> Today: when Dianne Feinstein was mayor of San Francisco.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Dianne Feinstein was born Diane Goldman in 1933 in San Francisco.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Scott Shafer is senior editor of KQED’s California Politics and Government Desk.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Her father was a well-known surgeon. Her mother was an immigrant from Russia, a former model. Her parents were both Jewish, but she went to Sacred Heart, which is a Catholic school, very disciplined, you know, very academic. She did not have a happy childhood. She had two younger sisters. Her mother was known to drink a lot. She would fly off into a rage for no particular reason.She learned to be an adult as a young kid because she had to take care of her younger sisters. And I think you can see some of that behavior in her as a political figure, somebody who was sort of in charge. She went to Stanford. She focused on political science. She got involved in student government. Found out she was pretty good at it and liked it. And obviously, that’s what she pursued in 1969.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> She decides to run for the board of supervisors. I believe this is her first run for office. What are her big issues when she decides to run citywide?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She’s always been focused on sort of the nuts and bolts of government. And that was certainly what she was looking at when she was running that first time. She was closely aligned with business groups. She cared a lot about the economy of the city, the level of taxation, services like Muni. It raised a lot of money. She was on television, the very first candidate running for the Board of supervisors in San Francisco that ever actually advertised on TV.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Interviewer:\u003c/strong> What do you think that the new people can do that the old ones haven’t?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, I don’t think the board has really done their homework when it comes to taxation. There are other kinds of taxes which are fair.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You know, seeing her in those early, early clips, you know, in 1969, I always think of her as a serious-minded politician, somebody who really had her nose to the grindstone and was looking at the budget and reading bills and legislation.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> I think we can come up with law enforcement programs that really can afford a greater degree of public protection. And I, for one, intend to speak out very loudly about this pollution of our Bay with our sewage. As you know, when it rains, all of our raw sewage is dumped into the Bay.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She very much appealed to sort of the center of San Francisco politics. And she came in first place, which — and then she became the [San Francisco] Board of Supervisors president –the first woman to do that.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> This was also a time, as you mentioned, where there were just way, way way fewer women in elected office. You mentioned she was the only woman who ran in that supervisor’s race in 1969. How much did that come up when she was campaigning and how did she talk about it at that time?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> I don’t think she made a big deal of it.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Dianne Feinstein is the kind of woman many ladies could dislike if she wasn’t so appealing. She does everything well. She is bright, poised, attractive and capable.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> I don’t think she wanted to draw attention to the fact that she was a woman. If she was asked about it — and she was, you know, later, after she got elected — she would say things like, well, you know, as long as a woman can maintain her femininity and be proper, I think that she can still be a good politician. Just very not wanting to color too far outside the lines.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Mrs. Feinstein, how do you feel about being a woman involved in politics? Do you think that that’s an asset or a liability, or do you think it’s a factor perhaps in your victory orin your effectiveness?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, I think it’s an asset, actually. I think if a woman is able to retain her femininity, if she’s able to use it with taste and wisely, if she also has a good brain and commonsense and uses these ingredients as well, I think she can be enormously effective.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And that was something that later in her career, even though she was breaking these glass ceilings, I think a lot of women felt that she didn’t lean into the feminist movement enough.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Feinstein gets elected to the board in1969, eventually becomes the board president. She does run for mayor in ’71 and ’75 and loses both times. In 1978, she does become the mayor, but kind of through one of the darkest moments in San Francisco history. I’m talking, of course, about the assassinations of Harvey Milk and George Mosconi. Remind me, walk me through the lead-up to that day. What was going on in San Francisco?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Wow. I mean, 1978 as a year was a traumatic year for Dianne Feinstein, personally and professionally. Her husband, Bert, who was the love of her life, by all accounts, died. We had the horrible spectacle of hundreds of people dying in Jonestown.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> I also have to warn you, as we begin this special report, that what you’re about to see almost defies description. And some of you may not want to watch it.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>… which was a compound down in Guyana in South America. It was led by Jim Jones, who was a preacher in San Francisco, very politically connected.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> As soon as these pictures from Jonestown cleared our newsroom, everybody, even a lot of hardened news people reacted in horror and disbelief. The word on everybody’s lips was shades of Auschwitz.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And so the city was reeling. And then just like ten days or so later, shots rang out in city hall. The mayor, George Mosconi, who was a beloved progressive, [was] shot and killed by Dan White, who was a member of the Board of Supervisors. He then walked down the hall, shot and killed Harvey Milk, the first openly gay member of the Board of [Supervisors], and Feinstein found his body.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> There’s, of course, this very well known clip of Acting Mayor Feinstein having to essentially break this news to the public. What do you remember from that footage?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Every time I see that footage, it sends a chill up and down my spine. And I’ve seen it many times.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Both Mayor Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk have been shot and killed.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Crowd:\u003c/strong> [HORRIFIED GASPS FROM CROWD]\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Her self-control, her looking straight out into the middle distance and breaking the news. I mean, nowadays we all find out about news instantaneously on our phones. But the idea that you could have, you know, an assassinated mayor and an assassinated supervisor in the building and no one knew. So, she delivered the news to a press corps and others who were assembled outside the mayor’s office. And so, what really stands out was just her shock, you know, her grief, but also holding it together and being strong in a moment when the wheels were falling off the city.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> Does Feinstein ever kind of open up later in life about what that day was like for her?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She does. She talked with me and Marisa Lagos on Political Breakdown about it.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> It’s still very traumatic for me to look back on candidly. And I would give up anything if they had not happened.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Ironically, hours before the assassinations, Dianne Feinstein had mentioned to people that she was thinking of getting out of politics.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> I had run for mayor, and I was defeated. And I was convinced I would never be mayor. My husband had died. I had a daughter. And I just thought enough was enough.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And Dianne Feinstein herself had been the subject of attempted violence. In 1976, there was a radical anti-capitalist group that planted a bomb outside her house in Pacific Heights. It didn’t go off. She wasn’t hurt. They also shot out her windows in a beach house that she had in Marin. So, she was, you know, no stranger to violence. But I think the level of violence was just too much for so many people in San Francisco to bear. But she held it together.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> So, Dianne Feinstein becomes the mayor in 1978 in the wake of this horrific tragedy. You’ve already mentioned that this was an extremely chaotic time in San Francisco. I mean, what does she inherit as she steps right into the job?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, the first thing she has to do is to begin to heal the city, bring the city back together after the assassinations, after Jonestown. And she really focused on the nuts and bolts of city government. One of her big campaigns as mayor early on was to save the cable cars. They needed a lot of repair. They were old. And she said, no, we can’t shut these down. These are an iconic symbol of San Francisco. And she led, you know, a group of businesspeople to raise the money to renovate the cable cars. The other thing I should point out, in terms of taking over as mayor, 1978 was a big year in politics in that voters in November of that year had passed Proposition 13, which was the so-called property tax revolt.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And so the finances of cities and counties and state government were sort of thrown up into upheaval. And so mayors, including Feinstein, had to deal with this sort of huge disruption in revenue sources. And that was the kind of thing she focused on. It was those, you know — really meat and potatoes, you know, make sure the potholes are filled, make sure the police department has enough staffing and that sort of thing, make sure the buses are running on time. And it was in that environment that we saw the dawn of the AIDS epidemic, which was landed right on her desk.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> This depression of the immune system can lead to a rare form of cancer, Kaposi’s sarcoma, which shows up as those purple spots. This cancer has a death rate of 80% two years after diagnosis. This is not a benign disease.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo\u003c/strong>: Yeah, let’s talk about that. Tell me more about Dianne Feinstein’s response to the AIDS crisis in San Francisco.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Dianne Feinstein really stepped up during the AIDS epidemic. I mean, it didn’t even have a name at that point. They called it GRID: Gay Related Immune Deficiency. At that point, there were a couple, just a very small number of these mysterious illnesses that had broken out among gay men. It was very troubling. And it, you know, quickly became clear that this was spreading rather fast. And at that time, Ronald Reagan was president. We had a Republican governor, George Deukmejian. And especially the Reagan administration did literally nothing helpful.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And so it fell to San Francisco and Mayor Feinstein. And from the very beginning, as early as 1981–82, she put money in the city budget to investigate what was happening and put together the infrastructure of what became known as the San Francisco Model.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>P\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>aul Volberding:\u003c/strong> San Francisco got a lot of credit for the San Francisco model of response to the AIDS epidemic. And really, a lot of that can be traced back to Dianne Feinstein’s leadership.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> People like Paul Volberding, who was a young AIDS doc at San Francisco General Hospital, would go to her and brief her on what was happening.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Paul Volberding:\u003c/strong> We were learning a lot very quickly and she wanted to, and I think she wanted to have policies that reflected the best knowledge at the time. In contrast to some places in the country, she really let that science lead her to her approach to this.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She came from a medical background. She had been married to a doctor. Her father was a doctor. She was very interested in data. But when others, like Mayor Koch in New York, were doing nothing or not enough, she really, really embraced it and took the lead on putting together the system that got the city through a very, very dark time.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Paul Volberding:\u003c/strong> When we needed money to, you know, hire more doctors to develop more space at San Francisco General Hospital to bring people together, to look at research questions in the community, that support for that seemed to me to be always easy.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> The one big thing that she did that was very controversial is San Francisco had gay bathhouses, and even thought he virus hadn’t been discovered yet, it wasn’t clear what was causing AIDS, there was a sense among public health people that whatever it was was being spread by sexual contact among men, and she wanted to close down the bathhouses, and it became a big mess. Ultimately, she got her way. The bathhouses shut down, which I think many would say was the right thing to do.\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> What was her relationship with the gay community like when she was mayor?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong> Well, you have to, I think, look at it in the context of her time. You know, in the late seventies, there weren’t a lot of openly gay elected officials. You know, Harvey Milk had been shot and killed. It was somewhat risky in many places to even align yourself politically with the gay community. She did that, you know, and so she won support in her early campaigns for supervisor and later, you know, for mayor. However, she wasn’t beloved universally.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Feinstein is often criticized by gays for not feeling comfortable with the whole subject of homosexuality. Gays attack her for what they consider her inability to control alleged police harassment of gays.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>She vetoed a piece of legislation that would have created domestic partnerships in San Francisco for same-sex couples. She never rode in the gay Pride parades to this day because I think she’s just so proper.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Here, she proclaims Lesbian Gay Freedom Week and boosts the gay parade in which she has never personally participated.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> [Unintelligible]\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>S\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>cott Shafer:\u003c/strong> There was a well-known, civic, gay activist who said once about Dianne Feinstein, she doesn’t care what we do in bed as long as we’re in bed by 11 o’clock. So, I would say it was very mixed. And also, the gay community tends to be a lot more liberal on issues. She was for the death penalty. She was very pro-business. But at the same time, I think looking back, she gets, you know, total credit for how she handled the AIDS epidemic.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo\u003c/strong>: In the end, was she a popular mayor?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. I mean, I would say there were people who really disliked Dianne Feinstein. I think there were people who felt she was too conservative, that she was kind of a prude. You know, in a city that is known for kind of outrageousness. But I think her time as mayor has aged well. \u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> How and when does she eventually kind of make the leap from the local to the national stage? We know her now as a senator, but how does that leap happen?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, in some ways, 1984. San Francisco hosted the Democratic National Convention, where Walter Mondale nominates Geraldine Ferraro to be the first woman on a major party ticket. And just before the convention, Dianne Feinstein and Geraldine Ferraro are on the cover of \u003cem>Time\u003c/em> magazine. Their photos, or pictures of them are there with the title “Why Not a Woman for Vice President?” So, by then, she was already developing a national profile. Everything changes in 1991, when Clarence Thomas is nominated by President Bush to be on the U.S. Supreme Court and there are allegations of sexual harassment and worse from Anita Hill.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Anita Hill:\u003c/strong> He talked about pornographic materials depicting individuals with large penises or large breasts involved in various sex acts.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> The Judiciary Committee, which held hearings into the confirmation of Thomas and which also talked with and interviewed Anita Hill, was all white males, mostly older, including Joe Biden, who was the chair. And they treated Anita Hill disrespectfully.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Joe Biden:\u003c/strong> It is appropriate to ask Professor Hill anything any member wishes to ask her to plumb the depths of her credibility.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Simpson: \u003c/strong>Why in God’s name would you ever speak to a man like that the rest of your life?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Howell Heflin:\u003c/strong> I’ve got to determine what your motivation might be. Are you a scorned woman? Are you interested in writing abook?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Clarence Thomas barely got confirmed. I think he got 51 [or 52] votes. And Feinstein and many others saw that as an indication that we needed to get more women into government in Washington.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Tonight, history is being made.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Dianne Feinstein, this Jewish woman from San Francisco becomes senator along with Barbara Boxer, who had been in the House of Representatives from Marin.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> We will be the Cagney Lacey one-two punch for the state of California.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>S\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>cott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And so, 1992 was really the year that she and others broke through in the so-called “Year of the Woman.” The number of women in the Senate went from two to six.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Tripling.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, tripled. Yes, exactly. It’s much higher now, thankfully. But nonetheless, that was really her big splash, I think, on the national scene.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> So, Washington, ready or not, here we come.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> We’re talking about this because, of course, Senator Feinstein is retiring. This marks more than 50 years of public service. A lot of the conversation now, understandably, is about her time as a U.S. senator. But when you look back at her time in San Francisco in the ’70s and ’80s, what stands out to you the most? And what do you want to make sure people don’t forget as they think about her long career?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Dianne Feinstein broke glass ceilings. She was a pioneer. She went places that no other woman had. She opened the door to a lot of other women running for office. She was somebody who steadied the ship at a time when the city was in crisis. She guided the city through a terrible, almost unimaginable — today —AIDS epidemic. HIV AIDS was a death sentence for everyone who got it at that time. And she got the city through that. She managed to hold the city together. And someone who was, you know, very competent, not always beloved, not always in line with the liberal values of the city, but someone who tried to do the right thing and broke a lot of glass ceilings along the way.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Scott, thanks so much.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You’re welcome.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> That was Scott Shafer, senior editor of KQED’s California Politics and Government Desk. This conversation was cut and edited by producer Maria Esquinca. I added the music and the tape. The audio you heard in this episode was courtesy of San Francisco State’s Bay Area TV Archive, KQED archives and C-SPAN. If you haven’t yet, please consider filling out our listener survey. It takes just eight minutes and it’s a great chance to tell us directly what you like about the show and what you want to hear more of. The Bay is a production of KQED in San Francisco. I’m Alan Montecillo in for Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Talk to you next time.\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"We revisit an episode with KQED’s Scott Shafer about how Sen. Dianne Feinstein got her start in local politics.\r\n","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700689063,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":8,"wordCount":4106},"headData":{"title":"The Legacy Dianne Feinstein Leaves Behind in the Bay Area | KQED","description":"We revisit an episode with KQED’s Scott Shafer about how Sen. 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Today, we revisit an episode with KQED’s Scott Shafer about how she got her start in local politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC3980513829&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Links:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/liveblog/dianne-feinstein-dies\">Senator Dianne Feinstein Dies at 90: Live Updates.\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11962877/11962877-revision-v1\">What Feinstein’s Death Means For Control of the Senate and the Looming Government Shutdown.\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13845645/dianne-feinstein-jello-biafra-san-francisco-punk\">How San Francisco Punk Reacted to Dianne Feinstein in the 1970s.\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:\u003c/b> I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the Bay. Local news to Keep You Rooted. Condolences and tributes have been pouring in for Senator Dianne Feinstein, who died in her Washington, D.C., home at the age of 90. Feinstein served in the U.S. Senate for more than 30 years while she was in office. She was a champion of gun control and a trailblazer for women in politics. But by the end of her life, she was a controversial figure. Some Democrats who hoped she would step aside for a new generation grew angry and frustrated with her for continuing to stay in office, even as her health declined. At one point, though, Feinstein was the next generation, a woman of many firsts who was breaking glass ceilings for those behind her in local, state and national politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dianne Feinstein: \u003c/b>I look to building San Francisco’s future through leadership, honesty and creativity. So let’s end once and for all the nonsense that a woman is not capable of providing the strength and toughness necessary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:\u003c/b> Today, we’re revisiting a conversation from back in March. Our senior editor, Alan Monticello, talks with KQED’s Scott Shafer about Dianne Feinstein’s San Francisco roots and the legacy she leaves behind in the Bay Area. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> Hi. This is Alan Montecillo, senior editor of The Bay. We’ve been planning this episode about DianneFeinstein for some time now. But a few days ago, we got some breaking news about her. On Thursday, Senator Feinstein announced that she’s been admitted to a hospital in the Bay Area to receive treatment for shingles. In a statement, she said she was diagnosed last month and that she expects to make a full recovery and return to Washington later on in March. For more updates on this and other breaking news stories, check out KQED.org or tune in to 88.5 FM. All right. Here’s the show.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> I’m Alan Montecillo in for Ericka Cruz Guevarra, and welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. By now, you probably know that Senator Dianne Feinstein is retiring at the end of her term next year after representing California in the U.S. Senate since 1992. But before she was in Washington, Feinstein was known best for her time in San Francisco in the seventies and eighties. She led the city through some difficult and turbulent times. She also became well known across the country for being one of just a few women in elected office.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> I look to building San Francisco’s future through leadership, honesty and creativity. So, let’s end once and for all the nonsense that a woman is not capable of providing the strength and toughness necessary to do this.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> Today: when Dianne Feinstein was mayor of San Francisco.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Dianne Feinstein was born Diane Goldman in 1933 in San Francisco.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Scott Shafer is senior editor of KQED’s California Politics and Government Desk.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Her father was a well-known surgeon. Her mother was an immigrant from Russia, a former model. Her parents were both Jewish, but she went to Sacred Heart, which is a Catholic school, very disciplined, you know, very academic. She did not have a happy childhood. She had two younger sisters. Her mother was known to drink a lot. She would fly off into a rage for no particular reason.She learned to be an adult as a young kid because she had to take care of her younger sisters. And I think you can see some of that behavior in her as a political figure, somebody who was sort of in charge. She went to Stanford. She focused on political science. She got involved in student government. Found out she was pretty good at it and liked it. And obviously, that’s what she pursued in 1969.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> She decides to run for the board of supervisors. I believe this is her first run for office. What are her big issues when she decides to run citywide?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She’s always been focused on sort of the nuts and bolts of government. And that was certainly what she was looking at when she was running that first time. She was closely aligned with business groups. She cared a lot about the economy of the city, the level of taxation, services like Muni. It raised a lot of money. She was on television, the very first candidate running for the Board of supervisors in San Francisco that ever actually advertised on TV.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Interviewer:\u003c/strong> What do you think that the new people can do that the old ones haven’t?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, I don’t think the board has really done their homework when it comes to taxation. There are other kinds of taxes which are fair.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You know, seeing her in those early, early clips, you know, in 1969, I always think of her as a serious-minded politician, somebody who really had her nose to the grindstone and was looking at the budget and reading bills and legislation.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> I think we can come up with law enforcement programs that really can afford a greater degree of public protection. And I, for one, intend to speak out very loudly about this pollution of our Bay with our sewage. As you know, when it rains, all of our raw sewage is dumped into the Bay.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She very much appealed to sort of the center of San Francisco politics. And she came in first place, which — and then she became the [San Francisco] Board of Supervisors president –the first woman to do that.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> This was also a time, as you mentioned, where there were just way, way way fewer women in elected office. You mentioned she was the only woman who ran in that supervisor’s race in 1969. How much did that come up when she was campaigning and how did she talk about it at that time?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> I don’t think she made a big deal of it.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Dianne Feinstein is the kind of woman many ladies could dislike if she wasn’t so appealing. She does everything well. She is bright, poised, attractive and capable.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> I don’t think she wanted to draw attention to the fact that she was a woman. If she was asked about it — and she was, you know, later, after she got elected — she would say things like, well, you know, as long as a woman can maintain her femininity and be proper, I think that she can still be a good politician. Just very not wanting to color too far outside the lines.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Mrs. Feinstein, how do you feel about being a woman involved in politics? Do you think that that’s an asset or a liability, or do you think it’s a factor perhaps in your victory orin your effectiveness?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, I think it’s an asset, actually. I think if a woman is able to retain her femininity, if she’s able to use it with taste and wisely, if she also has a good brain and commonsense and uses these ingredients as well, I think she can be enormously effective.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And that was something that later in her career, even though she was breaking these glass ceilings, I think a lot of women felt that she didn’t lean into the feminist movement enough.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Feinstein gets elected to the board in1969, eventually becomes the board president. She does run for mayor in ’71 and ’75 and loses both times. In 1978, she does become the mayor, but kind of through one of the darkest moments in San Francisco history. I’m talking, of course, about the assassinations of Harvey Milk and George Mosconi. Remind me, walk me through the lead-up to that day. What was going on in San Francisco?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Wow. I mean, 1978 as a year was a traumatic year for Dianne Feinstein, personally and professionally. Her husband, Bert, who was the love of her life, by all accounts, died. We had the horrible spectacle of hundreds of people dying in Jonestown.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> I also have to warn you, as we begin this special report, that what you’re about to see almost defies description. And some of you may not want to watch it.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>… which was a compound down in Guyana in South America. It was led by Jim Jones, who was a preacher in San Francisco, very politically connected.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> As soon as these pictures from Jonestown cleared our newsroom, everybody, even a lot of hardened news people reacted in horror and disbelief. The word on everybody’s lips was shades of Auschwitz.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And so the city was reeling. And then just like ten days or so later, shots rang out in city hall. The mayor, George Mosconi, who was a beloved progressive, [was] shot and killed by Dan White, who was a member of the Board of Supervisors. He then walked down the hall, shot and killed Harvey Milk, the first openly gay member of the Board of [Supervisors], and Feinstein found his body.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> There’s, of course, this very well known clip of Acting Mayor Feinstein having to essentially break this news to the public. What do you remember from that footage?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Every time I see that footage, it sends a chill up and down my spine. And I’ve seen it many times.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Both Mayor Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk have been shot and killed.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Crowd:\u003c/strong> [HORRIFIED GASPS FROM CROWD]\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Her self-control, her looking straight out into the middle distance and breaking the news. I mean, nowadays we all find out about news instantaneously on our phones. But the idea that you could have, you know, an assassinated mayor and an assassinated supervisor in the building and no one knew. So, she delivered the news to a press corps and others who were assembled outside the mayor’s office. And so, what really stands out was just her shock, you know, her grief, but also holding it together and being strong in a moment when the wheels were falling off the city.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> Does Feinstein ever kind of open up later in life about what that day was like for her?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She does. She talked with me and Marisa Lagos on Political Breakdown about it.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> It’s still very traumatic for me to look back on candidly. And I would give up anything if they had not happened.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Ironically, hours before the assassinations, Dianne Feinstein had mentioned to people that she was thinking of getting out of politics.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> I had run for mayor, and I was defeated. And I was convinced I would never be mayor. My husband had died. I had a daughter. And I just thought enough was enough.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And Dianne Feinstein herself had been the subject of attempted violence. In 1976, there was a radical anti-capitalist group that planted a bomb outside her house in Pacific Heights. It didn’t go off. She wasn’t hurt. They also shot out her windows in a beach house that she had in Marin. So, she was, you know, no stranger to violence. But I think the level of violence was just too much for so many people in San Francisco to bear. But she held it together.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> So, Dianne Feinstein becomes the mayor in 1978 in the wake of this horrific tragedy. You’ve already mentioned that this was an extremely chaotic time in San Francisco. I mean, what does she inherit as she steps right into the job?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, the first thing she has to do is to begin to heal the city, bring the city back together after the assassinations, after Jonestown. And she really focused on the nuts and bolts of city government. One of her big campaigns as mayor early on was to save the cable cars. They needed a lot of repair. They were old. And she said, no, we can’t shut these down. These are an iconic symbol of San Francisco. And she led, you know, a group of businesspeople to raise the money to renovate the cable cars. The other thing I should point out, in terms of taking over as mayor, 1978 was a big year in politics in that voters in November of that year had passed Proposition 13, which was the so-called property tax revolt.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And so the finances of cities and counties and state government were sort of thrown up into upheaval. And so mayors, including Feinstein, had to deal with this sort of huge disruption in revenue sources. And that was the kind of thing she focused on. It was those, you know — really meat and potatoes, you know, make sure the potholes are filled, make sure the police department has enough staffing and that sort of thing, make sure the buses are running on time. And it was in that environment that we saw the dawn of the AIDS epidemic, which was landed right on her desk.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> This depression of the immune system can lead to a rare form of cancer, Kaposi’s sarcoma, which shows up as those purple spots. This cancer has a death rate of 80% two years after diagnosis. This is not a benign disease.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo\u003c/strong>: Yeah, let’s talk about that. 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And from the very beginning, as early as 1981–82, she put money in the city budget to investigate what was happening and put together the infrastructure of what became known as the San Francisco Model.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>P\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>aul Volberding:\u003c/strong> San Francisco got a lot of credit for the San Francisco model of response to the AIDS epidemic. And really, a lot of that can be traced back to Dianne Feinstein’s leadership.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> People like Paul Volberding, who was a young AIDS doc at San Francisco General Hospital, would go to her and brief her on what was happening.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Paul Volberding:\u003c/strong> We were learning a lot very quickly and she wanted to, and I think she wanted to have policies that reflected the best knowledge at the time. In contrast to some places in the country, she really let that science lead her to her approach to this.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> She came from a medical background. She had been married to a doctor. Her father was a doctor. She was very interested in data. 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Ultimately, she got her way. The bathhouses shut down, which I think many would say was the right thing to do.\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> What was her relationship with the gay community like when she was mayor?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong> Well, you have to, I think, look at it in the context of her time. You know, in the late seventies, there weren’t a lot of openly gay elected officials. You know, Harvey Milk had been shot and killed. It was somewhat risky in many places to even align yourself politically with the gay community. She did that, you know, and so she won support in her early campaigns for supervisor and later, you know, for mayor. However, she wasn’t beloved universally.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Feinstein is often criticized by gays for not feeling comfortable with the whole subject of homosexuality. Gays attack her for what they consider her inability to control alleged police harassment of gays.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>She vetoed a piece of legislation that would have created domestic partnerships in San Francisco for same-sex couples. She never rode in the gay Pride parades to this day because I think she’s just so proper.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>News anchor:\u003c/strong> Here, she proclaims Lesbian Gay Freedom Week and boosts the gay parade in which she has never personally participated.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> [Unintelligible]\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>S\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>cott Shafer:\u003c/strong> There was a well-known, civic, gay activist who said once about Dianne Feinstein, she doesn’t care what we do in bed as long as we’re in bed by 11 o’clock. So, I would say it was very mixed. And also, the gay community tends to be a lot more liberal on issues. She was for the death penalty. She was very pro-business. But at the same time, I think looking back, she gets, you know, total credit for how she handled the AIDS epidemic.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo\u003c/strong>: In the end, was she a popular mayor?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. I mean, I would say there were people who really disliked Dianne Feinstein. I think there were people who felt she was too conservative, that she was kind of a prude. You know, in a city that is known for kind of outrageousness. But I think her time as mayor has aged well. \u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> How and when does she eventually kind of make the leap from the local to the national stage? We know her now as a senator, but how does that leap happen?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, in some ways, 1984. San Francisco hosted the Democratic National Convention, where Walter Mondale nominates Geraldine Ferraro to be the first woman on a major party ticket. And just before the convention, Dianne Feinstein and Geraldine Ferraro are on the cover of \u003cem>Time\u003c/em> magazine. Their photos, or pictures of them are there with the title “Why Not a Woman for Vice President?” So, by then, she was already developing a national profile. Everything changes in 1991, when Clarence Thomas is nominated by President Bush to be on the U.S. Supreme Court and there are allegations of sexual harassment and worse from Anita Hill.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Anita Hill:\u003c/strong> He talked about pornographic materials depicting individuals with large penises or large breasts involved in various sex acts.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> The Judiciary Committee, which held hearings into the confirmation of Thomas and which also talked with and interviewed Anita Hill, was all white males, mostly older, including Joe Biden, who was the chair. And they treated Anita Hill disrespectfully.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Joe Biden:\u003c/strong> It is appropriate to ask Professor Hill anything any member wishes to ask her to plumb the depths of her credibility.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Simpson: \u003c/strong>Why in God’s name would you ever speak to a man like that the rest of your life?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Howell Heflin:\u003c/strong> I’ve got to determine what your motivation might be. Are you a scorned woman? Are you interested in writing abook?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Clarence Thomas barely got confirmed. I think he got 51 [or 52] votes. And Feinstein and many others saw that as an indication that we needed to get more women into government in Washington.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Tonight, history is being made.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Dianne Feinstein, this Jewish woman from San Francisco becomes senator along with Barbara Boxer, who had been in the House of Representatives from Marin.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> We will be the Cagney Lacey one-two punch for the state of California.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>S\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>cott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And so, 1992 was really the year that she and others broke through in the so-called “Year of the Woman.” The number of women in the Senate went from two to six.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Tripling.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, tripled. Yes, exactly. It’s much higher now, thankfully. But nonetheless, that was really her big splash, I think, on the national scene.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> So, Washington, ready or not, here we come.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> We’re talking about this because, of course, Senator Feinstein is retiring. This marks more than 50 years of public service. A lot of the conversation now, understandably, is about her time as a U.S. senator. But when you look back at her time in San Francisco in the ’70s and ’80s, what stands out to you the most? And what do you want to make sure people don’t forget as they think about her long career?\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Dianne Feinstein broke glass ceilings. She was a pioneer. She went places that no other woman had. She opened the door to a lot of other women running for office. She was somebody who steadied the ship at a time when the city was in crisis. She guided the city through a terrible, almost unimaginable — today —AIDS epidemic. HIV AIDS was a death sentence for everyone who got it at that time. And she got the city through that. She managed to hold the city together. And someone who was, you know, very competent, not always beloved, not always in line with the liberal values of the city, but someone who tried to do the right thing and broke a lot of glass ceilings along the way.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Scott, thanks so much.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You’re welcome.\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo:\u003c/strong> That was Scott Shafer, senior editor of KQED’s California Politics and Government Desk. This conversation was cut and edited by producer Maria Esquinca. I added the music and the tape. The audio you heard in this episode was courtesy of San Francisco State’s Bay Area TV Archive, KQED archives and C-SPAN. If you haven’t yet, please consider filling out our listener survey. It takes just eight minutes and it’s a great chance to tell us directly what you like about the show and what you want to hear more of. The Bay is a production of KQED in San Francisco. I’m Alan Montecillo in for Ericka Cruz Guevarra. 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