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His new book, \"We Had a Little Real Estate Problem,\" takes a look at Native American comedians — a community that's been misunderstood, stereotyped and often erased in Hollywood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The book's title is the punchline of a famous joke from pioneering Native American stand-up comedian, Charlie Hill, a member of the Oneida Nation of Wisconsin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That was the crux of his joke,\" says Nesteroff. \"'My people are from Wisconsin. We used to be from New York, but we had a little real estate problem.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://youtu.be/545t5SvcyDo\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the mid-1970s, Hill was hot on the Los Angeles stand-up circuit. He worked clubs on the Sunset Strip along with Jay Leno, David Letterman and Jimmy Walker. He also appeared on \"The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson,\" the ultimate anointment for a comic during that period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hill's act tackled the absurd stereotype that Native Americans aren’t funny.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11882635\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut-800x938.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"938\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11882635\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut-800x938.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut-1020x1196.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut-160x188.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Comedian Charlie Hill. \u003ccite>(Photo courtesy Nasbah Hill)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"You know, a lot of you white people never seen an Indian do stand-up comedy before,\" said Hill in a 1977 appearance on the Richard Pryor Show. \"Like, for so long you probably thought Indians never had a sense of humor. We never thought you were too funny either.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hill died in 2013, without ever reaching stardom and still doing his real estate joke. But his unique stature in the comedy world of four decades ago shows young Native comics and writers that taking their skills to Hollywood is not impossible. To this day, he’s still the only Native American comic to have made it to \"The Tonight Show.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though Nesteroff’s book is named for Hill’s signature joke, the subtitle is no punchline: The Unheralded Story of Native Americans & Comedy. Nesteroff says the stereotype of the stoic Native American was a dehumanizing tactic. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It helped to justify federal policy that subjugated Native Americans,\" he says. \"They're unsmiling. They're unfeeling. And if somebody doesn't have feelings, it doesn't matter what you do to them.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nesteroff’s past work is meticulous and deeply researched, but this book came with a particular challenge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's a very delicate situation being a non-Native author, diving into the realm of Indigenous studies of any kind,\" he says. \"There's a long history and a huge stigma of racist anthropology, of racist historians studying Native Americans like they’re an amoeba under a microscope. What I really tried to do was to let people speak for themselves.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11882675\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 843px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49635_Kliph-Nesteroff-credit-Jim-Herrington-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"843\" height=\"591\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11882675\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49635_Kliph-Nesteroff-credit-Jim-Herrington-qut.jpg 843w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49635_Kliph-Nesteroff-credit-Jim-Herrington-qut-800x561.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49635_Kliph-Nesteroff-credit-Jim-Herrington-qut-160x112.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 843px) 100vw, 843px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Author Kliph Nesteroff, whose new book, \"We Had a Little Real Estate Problem,\" examines the history of Native Americans in comedy.\u003cbr> \u003ccite>(Jim Herrington)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>One of those people is comedian and writer \u003ca href=\"http://www.joeyclift.com/\">Joey Clift\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's definitely a stereotype of the stoic Indian who's best friends with an eagle, and flute music plays whenever they're pontificating about whatever,\" says Clift. \"That's just not reality. Some of us are stoic. Some of us are also real funny.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clift is a member of the Cowlitz Tribe and was raised on the Tulalip reservation just north of Seattle. He says the misconceptions about Native Americans aren’t confined to simply determining who’s funny or not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I've had grown adults who went to college, live in Los Angeles, work in comedy—ask me if I was born in a teepee, if my reservation had electricity growing up,\" says Clift.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clift is quick to point out that he was born in a hospital, and he grew up with not only electricity, but with a television set. He spent hours in front of it, soaking up \"The Simpsons,\" \"Family Guy\" and \"Late Night with Conan O’Brien.\" He saw his future in those shows, but how to make it happen — that was the problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Because I didn't necessarily see any Native American comedians on TV growing up, I didn't think I was allowed to work in comedy,\" he says. \"So, instead I went to school for what to me was the next best thing, which was to be a small market TV weather guy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s exactly what he became, but it wasn’t enough. In 2010, at the urging of his college professors, Clift decided to take a stab at a life beyond predicting sunny skies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I moved to LA, one of the first things that I did was just Google Native American TV writers or Native American comedians and see if anything came up.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It did and Clift ended up at a Writers Guild diversity event that changed his life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There was one Native American writer on the panel,\" Clift recalls. \"And he very quickly introduced me to Native Hollywood, the loose collection of Native people working in the entertainment industry.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clift started doing stand-up in L.A. clubs. In 2018, he created the annual Native American Comedy Showcase for the Hollywood sketch comedy group Upright Citizens Brigade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He’s currently writing for the animated Netflix series \"Spirit Rangers,\" created by Native American showrunner Karissa Valencia. The show’s entirely Native American writing staff is a Hollywood first.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Because I’ve been featured in this book, there are a lot of younger, up-and-coming Native comedians who have reached out to me and said, 'Hey, I read your chapter in Kliph’s book, it really resonated with me. We should do a Zoom and talk. And can you give me any advice?' says Clift. \"I think that it's a really good Bat-Signal for Native comedy, letting Native comedians know that we exist.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Native Americans getting a legitimate foothold in show business — on and offscreen — is still new.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's a history of casting non-Native actors in native roles in Hollywood. Anthony Quinn, Charles Bronson, Burt Lancaster, Rock Hudson, Audrey Hepburn, Johnny Depp, Burt Reynolds, Boris Karloff and Elvis Presley all portrayed Native Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You might also recognize the late actor Iron Eyes Cody from the character he played known as \"the Crying Indian\" from a famous 1970s public service announcement on littering. He had a tear running down his cheek as he witnessed America being consumed by garbage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In real life, Cody was an Italian American named Espera de Corti, who made a career wearing an eagle feather headdress. He posed as a Native in over 100 films, and maintained that identity offscreen, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://youtu.be/h0sxwGlTLWw\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the better part of a century, Hollywood has gone out of its way to not only exclude Native Americans from serious acting roles, but to create and perpetuate negative stereotypes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Westerns were among the first movies ever made,\" Nesteroff says. \"And by the year 1911, a contingent of Indigenous leaders were already registering formal complaints with the White House saying, 'Can you do something to stop the spread of racist misinformation appearing in silent movies?'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those requests went ignored.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11882633\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-800x1000.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1000\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11882633\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-800x1000.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-1020x1275.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-160x200.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-1229x1536.jpg 1229w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-1638x2048.jpg 1638w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stand up comic, writer and actor Adrianne Chalepah, a featured voice in Kliph Nesteroff's new book.\u003cbr> \u003ccite>(Matthew Williamson)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"The stoic Indian is my favorite stereotype because there's nothing further from the truth,\" says comic \u003ca href=\"http://chalepah.com/\">Adrianne Chalepah\u003c/a>. She’s featured in Nesteroff’s book, and grew up on the Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation in Oklahoma. As a kid, her father turned her on to Monty Python, Cheech & Chong and Mel Brooks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I grew up in a very humorous family,\" she says. \"You can't go five minutes without someone making fun of someone. You know, culture’s cool, language is cool, tribal stuff is all cool, but humor is the foundation. That is what keeps us just thriving. Because without that humor? Man, you know, things get really dark.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After college, she was working a straight job at a bank when she finally decided to try stand-up in her early twenties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was a huge risk because I was actually about six months pregnant with my second child,\" says the mother of four. \"But the way that I looked at it is, it can't be any worse than what I've already been through. Because I grew up in so much poverty that, worst case scenario, I would tuck my tail between my legs and go live with my mom in a trailer park.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That didn’t happen. Chalepah moved to Albuquerque, maneuvering her comedy career around her young sons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She gigged at tribal communities all over the country, from nighttime outdoor shows lit by car headlights to reservation casino stages. Pre-coronavirus, she was averaging four jobs a month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I chased every stage, every opportunity. I had no ego and no pride in the matter. If they were like, 'Okay, you get five minutes in front of people who hate you,' I would've been like, great, I'll be there.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, unlike Joey Clift, who came to Hollywood to carve out a career, Chalepah stayed away from the belly of the beast. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My opinion of the industry is that it is elitist because it's a pay-to-play thing,\" she explains. \"You’ve got to pay for training. You’ve got to pay for headshots. You’ve got to pay to live in LA. It's expensive. And then what ends up happening is you exclude middle America, and specifically the Natives on reservations get completely excluded because the idea is, 'No, you have to come to us.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the pandemic drags on, Chalepah is taking care of her kids and focusing on acting. The stand-up gigs are dead on the vine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s still a struggle for Natives in Hollywood, but she says Nesteroff’s book is a positive step.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Really, my hope is that it will just open doors to more comedians, or at least let industry folks know that we're not a relic or we're not an antique. We have iPhones. We're not stoic.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Kliph Nesteroff's book, \"We Had a Little Real Estate Problem,\" looks at Native Americans in comedy. 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His new book, \"We Had a Little Real Estate Problem,\" takes a look at Native American comedians — a community that's been misunderstood, stereotyped and often erased in Hollywood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The book's title is the punchline of a famous joke from pioneering Native American stand-up comedian, Charlie Hill, a member of the Oneida Nation of Wisconsin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That was the crux of his joke,\" says Nesteroff. \"'My people are from Wisconsin. We used to be from New York, but we had a little real estate problem.'\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/545t5SvcyDo'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/545t5SvcyDo'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>In the mid-1970s, Hill was hot on the Los Angeles stand-up circuit. He worked clubs on the Sunset Strip along with Jay Leno, David Letterman and Jimmy Walker. He also appeared on \"The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson,\" the ultimate anointment for a comic during that period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hill's act tackled the absurd stereotype that Native Americans aren’t funny.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11882635\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut-800x938.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"938\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11882635\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut-800x938.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut-1020x1196.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut-160x188.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49634_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_18_8ACharlieHillheadshot-2-qut.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Comedian Charlie Hill. \u003ccite>(Photo courtesy Nasbah Hill)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"You know, a lot of you white people never seen an Indian do stand-up comedy before,\" said Hill in a 1977 appearance on the Richard Pryor Show. \"Like, for so long you probably thought Indians never had a sense of humor. We never thought you were too funny either.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hill died in 2013, without ever reaching stardom and still doing his real estate joke. But his unique stature in the comedy world of four decades ago shows young Native comics and writers that taking their skills to Hollywood is not impossible. To this day, he’s still the only Native American comic to have made it to \"The Tonight Show.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though Nesteroff’s book is named for Hill’s signature joke, the subtitle is no punchline: The Unheralded Story of Native Americans & Comedy. Nesteroff says the stereotype of the stoic Native American was a dehumanizing tactic. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It helped to justify federal policy that subjugated Native Americans,\" he says. \"They're unsmiling. They're unfeeling. And if somebody doesn't have feelings, it doesn't matter what you do to them.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nesteroff’s past work is meticulous and deeply researched, but this book came with a particular challenge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's a very delicate situation being a non-Native author, diving into the realm of Indigenous studies of any kind,\" he says. \"There's a long history and a huge stigma of racist anthropology, of racist historians studying Native Americans like they’re an amoeba under a microscope. What I really tried to do was to let people speak for themselves.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11882675\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 843px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49635_Kliph-Nesteroff-credit-Jim-Herrington-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"843\" height=\"591\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11882675\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49635_Kliph-Nesteroff-credit-Jim-Herrington-qut.jpg 843w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49635_Kliph-Nesteroff-credit-Jim-Herrington-qut-800x561.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49635_Kliph-Nesteroff-credit-Jim-Herrington-qut-160x112.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 843px) 100vw, 843px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Author Kliph Nesteroff, whose new book, \"We Had a Little Real Estate Problem,\" examines the history of Native Americans in comedy.\u003cbr> \u003ccite>(Jim Herrington)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>One of those people is comedian and writer \u003ca href=\"http://www.joeyclift.com/\">Joey Clift\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's definitely a stereotype of the stoic Indian who's best friends with an eagle, and flute music plays whenever they're pontificating about whatever,\" says Clift. \"That's just not reality. Some of us are stoic. Some of us are also real funny.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clift is a member of the Cowlitz Tribe and was raised on the Tulalip reservation just north of Seattle. He says the misconceptions about Native Americans aren’t confined to simply determining who’s funny or not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I've had grown adults who went to college, live in Los Angeles, work in comedy—ask me if I was born in a teepee, if my reservation had electricity growing up,\" says Clift.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clift is quick to point out that he was born in a hospital, and he grew up with not only electricity, but with a television set. He spent hours in front of it, soaking up \"The Simpsons,\" \"Family Guy\" and \"Late Night with Conan O’Brien.\" He saw his future in those shows, but how to make it happen — that was the problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Because I didn't necessarily see any Native American comedians on TV growing up, I didn't think I was allowed to work in comedy,\" he says. \"So, instead I went to school for what to me was the next best thing, which was to be a small market TV weather guy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s exactly what he became, but it wasn’t enough. In 2010, at the urging of his college professors, Clift decided to take a stab at a life beyond predicting sunny skies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I moved to LA, one of the first things that I did was just Google Native American TV writers or Native American comedians and see if anything came up.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It did and Clift ended up at a Writers Guild diversity event that changed his life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There was one Native American writer on the panel,\" Clift recalls. \"And he very quickly introduced me to Native Hollywood, the loose collection of Native people working in the entertainment industry.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clift started doing stand-up in L.A. clubs. In 2018, he created the annual Native American Comedy Showcase for the Hollywood sketch comedy group Upright Citizens Brigade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He’s currently writing for the animated Netflix series \"Spirit Rangers,\" created by Native American showrunner Karissa Valencia. The show’s entirely Native American writing staff is a Hollywood first.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Because I’ve been featured in this book, there are a lot of younger, up-and-coming Native comedians who have reached out to me and said, 'Hey, I read your chapter in Kliph’s book, it really resonated with me. We should do a Zoom and talk. And can you give me any advice?' says Clift. \"I think that it's a really good Bat-Signal for Native comedy, letting Native comedians know that we exist.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Native Americans getting a legitimate foothold in show business — on and offscreen — is still new.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's a history of casting non-Native actors in native roles in Hollywood. Anthony Quinn, Charles Bronson, Burt Lancaster, Rock Hudson, Audrey Hepburn, Johnny Depp, Burt Reynolds, Boris Karloff and Elvis Presley all portrayed Native Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You might also recognize the late actor Iron Eyes Cody from the character he played known as \"the Crying Indian\" from a famous 1970s public service announcement on littering. He had a tear running down his cheek as he witnessed America being consumed by garbage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In real life, Cody was an Italian American named Espera de Corti, who made a career wearing an eagle feather headdress. He posed as a Native in over 100 films, and maintained that identity offscreen, too.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/h0sxwGlTLWw'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/h0sxwGlTLWw'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>For the better part of a century, Hollywood has gone out of its way to not only exclude Native Americans from serious acting roles, but to create and perpetuate negative stereotypes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Westerns were among the first movies ever made,\" Nesteroff says. \"And by the year 1911, a contingent of Indigenous leaders were already registering formal complaints with the White House saying, 'Can you do something to stop the spread of racist misinformation appearing in silent movies?'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those requests went ignored.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11882633\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-800x1000.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1000\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11882633\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-800x1000.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-1020x1275.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-160x200.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-1229x1536.jpg 1229w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut-1638x2048.jpg 1638w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/RS49631_WeHadaLittleRealEstateProblem_INS1_29_13AAdrianneChalepahjpg-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stand up comic, writer and actor Adrianne Chalepah, a featured voice in Kliph Nesteroff's new book.\u003cbr> \u003ccite>(Matthew Williamson)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"The stoic Indian is my favorite stereotype because there's nothing further from the truth,\" says comic \u003ca href=\"http://chalepah.com/\">Adrianne Chalepah\u003c/a>. She’s featured in Nesteroff’s book, and grew up on the Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation in Oklahoma. As a kid, her father turned her on to Monty Python, Cheech & Chong and Mel Brooks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I grew up in a very humorous family,\" she says. \"You can't go five minutes without someone making fun of someone. You know, culture’s cool, language is cool, tribal stuff is all cool, but humor is the foundation. That is what keeps us just thriving. Because without that humor? Man, you know, things get really dark.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After college, she was working a straight job at a bank when she finally decided to try stand-up in her early twenties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was a huge risk because I was actually about six months pregnant with my second child,\" says the mother of four. \"But the way that I looked at it is, it can't be any worse than what I've already been through. Because I grew up in so much poverty that, worst case scenario, I would tuck my tail between my legs and go live with my mom in a trailer park.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That didn’t happen. Chalepah moved to Albuquerque, maneuvering her comedy career around her young sons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She gigged at tribal communities all over the country, from nighttime outdoor shows lit by car headlights to reservation casino stages. Pre-coronavirus, she was averaging four jobs a month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I chased every stage, every opportunity. I had no ego and no pride in the matter. If they were like, 'Okay, you get five minutes in front of people who hate you,' I would've been like, great, I'll be there.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, unlike Joey Clift, who came to Hollywood to carve out a career, Chalepah stayed away from the belly of the beast. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My opinion of the industry is that it is elitist because it's a pay-to-play thing,\" she explains. \"You’ve got to pay for training. You’ve got to pay for headshots. You’ve got to pay to live in LA. It's expensive. And then what ends up happening is you exclude middle America, and specifically the Natives on reservations get completely excluded because the idea is, 'No, you have to come to us.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the pandemic drags on, Chalepah is taking care of her kids and focusing on acting. The stand-up gigs are dead on the vine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s still a struggle for Natives in Hollywood, but she says Nesteroff’s book is a positive step.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Really, my hope is that it will just open doors to more comedians, or at least let industry folks know that we're not a relic or we're not an antique. We have iPhones. We're not stoic.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11882513/were-not-stoic-book-traces-the-history-of-native-americans-in-comedy","authors":["11275"],"programs":["news_26731"],"categories":["news_223","news_8"],"tags":["news_29731","news_29733","news_21022","news_29730","news_29732","news_21512"],"featImg":"news_11882634","label":"news_26731"},"news_11837544":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11837544","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11837544","score":null,"sort":[1601080091000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-cant-stand-up-comedian-dan-smith-on-finding-comedy-in-spina-bifida","title":"The 'Can't-Stand-Up Comedian': Dan Smith on Finding Comedy in Spina Bifida","publishDate":1601080091,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report Magazine | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":26731,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>For Dan Smith, mundane everyday chores can become fodder for his next comedy routine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a warm January day, Smith tackled the usual domestic challenges at his home in Sacramento. He began by taking out the trash, groaning while gripping the heavy bin as it rolled down his steep driveway, dragging him behind it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That’s taking out the trash can of terror,\" he deadpanned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Next, Smith grabbed a leash to walk his dog Kepi around the block. A \"walk and roll,\" he called it. \"[Kepi's] walking, I’m rolling.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith, who has used a wheelchair since birth, has coined phrases like this for nearly each part of his day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You've got to keep things fun,\" he explained. \"Laughter is what’s kept me sane through a lot of things.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before the coronavirus pandemic shut down entertainment venues around the state, Smith had become a regular at comedy joints around the Sacramento area. Nearly once a week, a group of comics would hoist Smith on stage at a local club called \u003ca href=\"https://www.punchlinesac.com/\">Punch Line Sacramento\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Thanks for coming to the stand-up comedy show,\" Smith began one such set. \"I’ll be your can’t-stand-up-comedian for the night.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS7-dR8znvY&t=82s&ab_channel=KQEDArts\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith has spina bifida, a birth defect that occurs when the spine and spinal cord don’t develop properly in utero. Smith was born with an opening in his back, which required surgery when he was just eight days old to close. His form of spina bifida, myelomeningocele, is the most severe. After all, as Smith likes to joke, \"if you're going to commit to something, go all the way.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Dan Smith, stand-up comedian\"]'There's not much that makes me happier than to be able to make someone laugh.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith makes light of his disability now, but he remembers a shy childhood without many friends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I obviously knew what was different about me,\" Smith said. \"Even if other people didn’t make a big deal out of it, I still knew it was there and felt like I didn’t really fit in.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Smith knew he loved to laugh — and make people laugh. Comedy was always in the back of his mind, but being in the spotlight? At first, it wasn’t for him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Getting up on stage in front of a room full of people and being the center of attention? No. Absolutely not,\" he said of his initial reaction to the idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11837699\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11837699\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Dan Smith said it took years for him to gain the confidence to get on stage. "I wasn't ready in my mind," he said.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dan Smith said it took years for him to gain the confidence to get on stage. \"I wasn't ready in my mind,\" he said. \u003ccite>(Aine Henderson / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Smith's confidence posed one obstacle, but his health presented another challenge entirely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The early part of the 2010s was really bad for me,\" he said. \" I had a lot of health problems and some personal problems. Being in and out of the hospital a couple of times a year, that'll get to you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith's string of hospital visits lasted roughly five years. During that time, one thing that boosted his spirits was the work of Michael O'Connell, another Sacramento-based comedian who used a wheelchair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I met him a few times. He actually visited me in the hospital, which I really appreciated,\" said Smith.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though Smith and O'Connell didn't share the same disability, Smith saw a kindred spirit in O'Connell — someone who could relate to the hardships he'd experienced.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I looked up to him,\" said Smith. \"Here was a person with a disability doing comedy, and doing well at it. I thought, 'Hey, if he can do it, I'd like to try it sometime, too.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>O'Connell's death in 2016 left an indelible mark on Smith. \"It really affected me,\" he remembered. \"I felt like I lost someone that I looked up to.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Soon after, Smith decided it was time to pick up comedy as a way to honor him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It took a lot of years for me to realize that, hey, I’ve got some good stories,\" he said. \"And I want to share ‘em.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Entering the Spotlight\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Since starting stand-up in 2016, Smith has devoted each set to highlighting life with a disability. He talks about what he calls \"the perks of paraplegia\" as well as the microaggressions he faces on a daily basis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I’ll tell you that the biggest middle finger in all of society to people in wheelchairs specifically ... it’s outside of every elevator,\" Smith joked during a comedy set. \"‘In case of fire, use stairs.’\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11837701\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11837701\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Dan Smith has his logo tattooed onto his arm: a person falling out of a wheelchair while holding a microphone.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dan Smith has his logo tattooed onto his arm: a person falling out of a wheelchair while holding a microphone. \u003ccite>(Aine Henderson / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Smith does not intend to speak on behalf of all people with disabilities, nor does he want to be labelled as \"inspirational\" just because he uses a wheelchair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Inspirational is a four letter word for people with a disability,\" he said. \"We’re not trying to be inspirational, we’re just trying to live our lives. I'll incorporate my disability into universal topics, like marriage and my sobriety.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time of our interview, Smith had been sober for exactly nine months and four days. He marked his 90th day with a tattoo on his forearm, and he tracks his progress using an app on his phone. Smith recalled that when he was younger, drinking was a way to help fit in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I didn’t drink every day, but when I did drink I couldn’t stop until I passed out,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I did a few sets when I was drunk. There was one set I don't remember at all. I was told that I got onstage and told one joke. Then I spent the next five minutes going in circles.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith bombed so hard that he vowed to never waste an opportunity on stage again. Now, he proudly broadcasts his sobriety, even incorporating it into his routine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I quit drinking this last year,\" Smith announced to a cheering audience. \"But I’ll tell you, it’s just impossible to find a wheelchair accessible 12-step program.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith says his comedy work is a kind of therapy for him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You joke about the things that you're struggling with,\" he said. \"That’s comedy. It’s turning tragedy into comedy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Stand-Up in the Time of COVID-19\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>One topic, however, that’s been difficult to turn into comedy is the COVID-19 crisis, said Smith.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith is immunocompromised and said that he's had some difficult days emotionally. He’s attempted comedy sets over Zoom, but it’s tricky, without direct audience feedback.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But most of all, Smith said he misses his fellow comedians who made him laugh week after week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I miss the hell out of them,\" he said. \"I miss hugs.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11837704\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11837704 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130-800x452.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130-800x452.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130-1020x576.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130-160x90.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130.png 1222w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Smith hosted the first-ever \"body posi\" comedy night on Zoom in March 2020.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In May, Smith emceed a body positive themed comedy night over Zoom. Many of his fellow comedians from the Sacramento comedy scene were in attendance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Welcome to the first ever 'body posi' show,\" Smith announced through the screen. \"Tonight we’re celebrating positivity in everybody and every body.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the course of the night, comedians discussed everything from fatphobia to gender norms. As the emcee, Smith placed a homemade banner behind him and wore a t-shirt that said “I run better than the government.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also tested out some new material — about those everyday, mundane chores.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We have one of those top-down washing machines, so I have to lift myself over the side to reach [clothes] at the bottom,\" he said during his set. \"Last week I was flipping my laundry. I fell in.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith doesn't get paid much to do comedy, but he considers the laughter of a room full of people his payment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It feels like I gave them something,\" he said. \"There's not much that makes me happier than to be able to make someone laugh.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Sacramento-based comedian Dan Smith draws on the every day challenges of using a wheelchair to feed his comedy work.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1601080362,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":47,"wordCount":1399},"headData":{"title":"The 'Can't-Stand-Up Comedian': Dan Smith on Finding Comedy in Spina Bifida | KQED","description":"Sacramento-based comedian Dan Smith draws on the every day challenges of using a wheelchair to feed his comedy work.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"The 'Can't-Stand-Up Comedian': Dan Smith on Finding Comedy in Spina Bifida","datePublished":"2020-09-26T00:28:11.000Z","dateModified":"2020-09-26T00:32:42.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11837544 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11837544","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/09/25/the-cant-stand-up-comedian-dan-smith-on-finding-comedy-in-spina-bifida/","disqusTitle":"The 'Can't-Stand-Up Comedian': Dan Smith on Finding Comedy in Spina Bifida","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/f065e1db-2373-418a-a76c-ac420005e813/audio.mp3","path":"/news/11837544/the-cant-stand-up-comedian-dan-smith-on-finding-comedy-in-spina-bifida","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>For Dan Smith, mundane everyday chores can become fodder for his next comedy routine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a warm January day, Smith tackled the usual domestic challenges at his home in Sacramento. He began by taking out the trash, groaning while gripping the heavy bin as it rolled down his steep driveway, dragging him behind it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That’s taking out the trash can of terror,\" he deadpanned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Next, Smith grabbed a leash to walk his dog Kepi around the block. A \"walk and roll,\" he called it. \"[Kepi's] walking, I’m rolling.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith, who has used a wheelchair since birth, has coined phrases like this for nearly each part of his day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You've got to keep things fun,\" he explained. \"Laughter is what’s kept me sane through a lot of things.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before the coronavirus pandemic shut down entertainment venues around the state, Smith had become a regular at comedy joints around the Sacramento area. Nearly once a week, a group of comics would hoist Smith on stage at a local club called \u003ca href=\"https://www.punchlinesac.com/\">Punch Line Sacramento\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Thanks for coming to the stand-up comedy show,\" Smith began one such set. \"I’ll be your can’t-stand-up-comedian for the night.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/XS7-dR8znvY'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/XS7-dR8znvY'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Smith has spina bifida, a birth defect that occurs when the spine and spinal cord don’t develop properly in utero. Smith was born with an opening in his back, which required surgery when he was just eight days old to close. His form of spina bifida, myelomeningocele, is the most severe. After all, as Smith likes to joke, \"if you're going to commit to something, go all the way.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'There's not much that makes me happier than to be able to make someone laugh.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Dan Smith, stand-up comedian","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith makes light of his disability now, but he remembers a shy childhood without many friends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I obviously knew what was different about me,\" Smith said. \"Even if other people didn’t make a big deal out of it, I still knew it was there and felt like I didn’t really fit in.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Smith knew he loved to laugh — and make people laugh. Comedy was always in the back of his mind, but being in the spotlight? At first, it wasn’t for him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Getting up on stage in front of a room full of people and being the center of attention? No. Absolutely not,\" he said of his initial reaction to the idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11837699\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11837699\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Dan Smith said it took years for him to gain the confidence to get on stage. "I wasn't ready in my mind," he said.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_closeup_ColorCorrected.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dan Smith said it took years for him to gain the confidence to get on stage. \"I wasn't ready in my mind,\" he said. \u003ccite>(Aine Henderson / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Smith's confidence posed one obstacle, but his health presented another challenge entirely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The early part of the 2010s was really bad for me,\" he said. \" I had a lot of health problems and some personal problems. Being in and out of the hospital a couple of times a year, that'll get to you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith's string of hospital visits lasted roughly five years. During that time, one thing that boosted his spirits was the work of Michael O'Connell, another Sacramento-based comedian who used a wheelchair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I met him a few times. He actually visited me in the hospital, which I really appreciated,\" said Smith.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though Smith and O'Connell didn't share the same disability, Smith saw a kindred spirit in O'Connell — someone who could relate to the hardships he'd experienced.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I looked up to him,\" said Smith. \"Here was a person with a disability doing comedy, and doing well at it. I thought, 'Hey, if he can do it, I'd like to try it sometime, too.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>O'Connell's death in 2016 left an indelible mark on Smith. \"It really affected me,\" he remembered. \"I felt like I lost someone that I looked up to.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Soon after, Smith decided it was time to pick up comedy as a way to honor him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It took a lot of years for me to realize that, hey, I’ve got some good stories,\" he said. \"And I want to share ‘em.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Entering the Spotlight\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Since starting stand-up in 2016, Smith has devoted each set to highlighting life with a disability. He talks about what he calls \"the perks of paraplegia\" as well as the microaggressions he faces on a daily basis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I’ll tell you that the biggest middle finger in all of society to people in wheelchairs specifically ... it’s outside of every elevator,\" Smith joked during a comedy set. \"‘In case of fire, use stairs.’\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11837701\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11837701\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Dan Smith has his logo tattooed onto his arm: a person falling out of a wheelchair while holding a microphone.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/tca1509_dansmith_tattoo_ColorCorrected.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dan Smith has his logo tattooed onto his arm: a person falling out of a wheelchair while holding a microphone. \u003ccite>(Aine Henderson / KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Smith does not intend to speak on behalf of all people with disabilities, nor does he want to be labelled as \"inspirational\" just because he uses a wheelchair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Inspirational is a four letter word for people with a disability,\" he said. \"We’re not trying to be inspirational, we’re just trying to live our lives. I'll incorporate my disability into universal topics, like marriage and my sobriety.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time of our interview, Smith had been sober for exactly nine months and four days. He marked his 90th day with a tattoo on his forearm, and he tracks his progress using an app on his phone. Smith recalled that when he was younger, drinking was a way to help fit in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I didn’t drink every day, but when I did drink I couldn’t stop until I passed out,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I did a few sets when I was drunk. There was one set I don't remember at all. I was told that I got onstage and told one joke. Then I spent the next five minutes going in circles.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith bombed so hard that he vowed to never waste an opportunity on stage again. Now, he proudly broadcasts his sobriety, even incorporating it into his routine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I quit drinking this last year,\" Smith announced to a cheering audience. \"But I’ll tell you, it’s just impossible to find a wheelchair accessible 12-step program.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith says his comedy work is a kind of therapy for him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You joke about the things that you're struggling with,\" he said. \"That’s comedy. It’s turning tragedy into comedy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Stand-Up in the Time of COVID-19\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>One topic, however, that’s been difficult to turn into comedy is the COVID-19 crisis, said Smith.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith is immunocompromised and said that he's had some difficult days emotionally. He’s attempted comedy sets over Zoom, but it’s tricky, without direct audience feedback.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But most of all, Smith said he misses his fellow comedians who made him laugh week after week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I miss the hell out of them,\" he said. \"I miss hugs.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11837704\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11837704 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130-800x452.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130-800x452.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130-1020x576.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130-160x90.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-4.20.08-PM-e1599866560130.png 1222w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Smith hosted the first-ever \"body posi\" comedy night on Zoom in March 2020.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In May, Smith emceed a body positive themed comedy night over Zoom. Many of his fellow comedians from the Sacramento comedy scene were in attendance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Welcome to the first ever 'body posi' show,\" Smith announced through the screen. \"Tonight we’re celebrating positivity in everybody and every body.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the course of the night, comedians discussed everything from fatphobia to gender norms. As the emcee, Smith placed a homemade banner behind him and wore a t-shirt that said “I run better than the government.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also tested out some new material — about those everyday, mundane chores.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We have one of those top-down washing machines, so I have to lift myself over the side to reach [clothes] at the bottom,\" he said during his set. \"Last week I was flipping my laundry. I fell in.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith doesn't get paid much to do comedy, but he considers the laughter of a room full of people his payment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It feels like I gave them something,\" he said. \"There's not much that makes me happier than to be able to make someone laugh.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11837544/the-cant-stand-up-comedian-dan-smith-on-finding-comedy-in-spina-bifida","authors":["11580"],"programs":["news_26731"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_21022","news_3295","news_95","news_28517","news_28323"],"featImg":"news_11837686","label":"news_26731"},"news_11830073":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11830073","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11830073","score":null,"sort":[1595382807000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"here-are-some-of-your-best-robin-williams-encounters-bay-area","title":"Here Are Some of Your Best Robin Williams Encounters, Bay Area","publishDate":1595382807,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Comic icon Robin Williams would have turned 69 years old today, on July 21.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams was a longtime Bay Area resident, who lived with his family for many years in the Seacliff neighborhood of San Francisco, and then in Tiburon until \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/13093/robin-williams-beloved-comedian-and-bay-area-resident-dead-at-63\">his death in 2014, at the age of 63\u003c/a>. This meant that, for many in the Bay Area, it wasn't really unusual to run into Williams on the street. Or the store. Or in numerous other unexpected places.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/KQEDnews/status/1285621427237003265\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the thing about people's stories of their \"Robin Williams moment\"? They're usually either \u003cem>very\u003c/em> funny, or genuinely heartwarming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We asked our audiences for their own stories on social media, and were overwhelmed by the response. Here's a short selection of some of the best encounters described for your enjoyment. You can read more of our audience stories on \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/\">this Reddit thread\u003c/a>, or \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/KQEDnews/status/1285621427237003265\">on Twitter\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Some of these comments have been lightly edited for length or clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Back in the day I was the kitchen manager at Josie's Cabaret & Juice Joint. Robin Williams occasionally attended some of our performances. One afternoon I answered the reservation phone and the voice on the other end asked me to hold for 'Mr Williams's Executive Assistant.' After several rapid fire voice changes, I was 'transferred' to 'his special secretary' who sounded quite a bit like Mrs Doubtfire. This 'secretary' proceeded to reserve four tickets for Robin Williams and then switched to his regular voice and gave me his credit card information. \u003cstrong>It was only as I hung up that I realized I had just been treated to an exclusive Robin Williams performance.\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysdxe3/\">MSeanF via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"At the 540 Club on Clement around January 2007. Random Thursday at 4pm. I was the only other one in there. He came with Green Apple Books bag in hand, ordered a shot of tequila, tipped a $20. \u003cstrong>I told him 'Death to Smoochy' is my fave movie. He chatted with me for half an hour. Such a sweet man.\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/CrystalPepsi/status/1285623731046555651\">@CrystalPepsi via Twitter\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My dad took me to see a bicycle race in SF when I was very young. I literally bumped into this strange man wearing bright yellow socks that had the nuclear radiation trefoil pattern on them. My dad said 'This is Robin Williams!' and I shook his hand but asked who he was. \u003cstrong>My dad said 'Genie, from \u003cem>Aladdin'\u003c/em> and Robin said 'You will know who I am one day.'\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysf46b/\">frenchvanilla via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11830104\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1900px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11830104\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1900\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda.jpg 1900w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda-800x539.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda-1020x687.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda-1536x1035.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1900px) 100vw, 1900px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robin Williams (R) and his daughter Zelda at a movie premiere in 2006 \u003ccite>(Kevin Winter/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"He came into a toy store I used to work at in Berkeley with one of his children (a boy), who must have been about three or four at the time (this was around 1994). \u003cstrong>I wanted to respect his privacy and so didn't speak with him, but did get treated to a special performance when he picked up a furry folk wolf puppet. He went crazy with it entertaining his son, who was absolutely in stitches. It was amazing to watch.\u003c/strong> He was so focused and present with his kid; I imagine it must have been quite an experience to grow up with him as a father. He ended up buying the wolf puppet, which I assume went on to an illustrious career at the Williams household.\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysje99/\">thefinancethrowaway via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Living in the Bay Area in the mid ‘80s, just one of a variety of jobs I had was doing balloon deliveries, and the most memorable one ever involved, you got it — Robin Williams. So picture this: there I was ... full clown regalia, colorful costume, clown wig, full face paint, all done up to deliver a birthday balloon bouquet to an office in San Francisco. When the person wasn’t there I left the bouquet with the receptionist ... Feeling a bit dejected, I got on the elevator: it went down one floor, the door opens and who gets in but Robin Williams. Phew! And in that split second when I saw him, I decided he deserved to be a private person and not just a celebrity, and chose not to say anything to him... \u003cstrong>So there I was in this elevator, full clown outfit, with Robin Williams (and damn, he was cute!) and I hear someone ask me if I was a clown and he answers 'No she’s a lawyer, we’re all clowns.'\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysqzwc/\">tallinnigirl via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In the '80s I was working as a waitress at Churchill’s on 6th & Clement. On break with friends from the Last Day Saloon, sitting on the bench outside the Holy City Zoo. \u003cstrong>He came up and did this whole riff about my clogs. Ended up drinking out of one. I worked with a wet shoe.\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>—\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/erinpoh/status/1285638894554423298\">\u003cstrong>@ErinPoh via Twitter\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I hosted a LAN party as part of a Thanksgiving Day celebration at his San Francisco home. \u003cstrong>He was joined in Unreal Arena by his kids and David Crosby while Sharon Stone watched.\u003c/strong> He checked on all the people running games and booths a few times to make sure we were warm and fed. I had a few games available and once he finished blowing up his kids in an Unreal Dungeon, he and David Crosby picked up a WWII air combat flight simulator. I was watching them dogfight when a woman's voice said 'What is going on here?!' and it was Sharon Stone and Phil Bronstein.\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysjyra/\">rhbaby via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[ad fullwidth]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My parents's favorite story from when they lived in SF in the 80s: One night, they run into a man with a beautiful golden retriever. Dad of course wants to pet the dog. Stranger waits politely until he’s done. Nobody says anything. \u003cstrong>Turns out to be Robin Williams walking his dog. My dad never looked up from the dog he was petting.\u003c/strong> He had no idea who they had run into until my mom told him later. To this day, his defense is, 'Robin Williams had a very nice dog.'' \u003cstrong>—\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/magmokno/status/1285732574955012099\">\u003cstrong>@magmokno via Twitter\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was eating at The Cheesesteak Shop back in the day with my family and we noticed Robin Williams was with his son at a nearby table. We were ecstatic but didn’t want to bother him. My brother was a little kid and ended up falling asleep at the table. \u003cstrong>When Robin noticed this he brought over a chair from his table and set it next to my brother’s chair so he could sleep more comfortably lying down. It was such a kind and thoughtful gesture.\u003c/strong> We already loved him as an actor but loved him for his sweet caring soul too after that.\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysutkg/\">JLittle16 via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you're craving even \u003cem>more\u003c/em> Robin Williams stories, Broke Ass Stuart has \u003ca href=\"https://brokeassstuart.com/2014/08/12/grieving-sf-comedy-superstars-recall-their-robin-williams-stories/\">this great roundup of memories\u003c/a> from his fellow Bay Area comics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We'll leave you with this tweet from Williams's daughter Zelda, who informed Twitter of how she'd be honoring her dad's 69th birthday today. It might inspire you, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/zeldawilliams/status/1285649335917719559\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Many Bay Area residents have a story about their 'Robin Williams encounter.' Here are some of the tales we enjoyed most.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1595382907,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":1209},"headData":{"title":"Here Are Some of Your Best Robin Williams Encounters, Bay Area | KQED","description":"Robin Williams would have turned 69 today, and many Bay Area residents have a story about their "Robin Williams encounter."","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Here Are Some of Your Best Robin Williams Encounters, Bay Area","datePublished":"2020-07-22T01:53:27.000Z","dateModified":"2020-07-22T01:55:07.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11830073 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11830073","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/07/21/here-are-some-of-your-best-robin-williams-encounters-bay-area/","disqusTitle":"Here Are Some of Your Best Robin Williams Encounters, Bay Area","path":"/news/11830073/here-are-some-of-your-best-robin-williams-encounters-bay-area","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Comic icon Robin Williams would have turned 69 years old today, on July 21.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams was a longtime Bay Area resident, who lived with his family for many years in the Seacliff neighborhood of San Francisco, and then in Tiburon until \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/13093/robin-williams-beloved-comedian-and-bay-area-resident-dead-at-63\">his death in 2014, at the age of 63\u003c/a>. This meant that, for many in the Bay Area, it wasn't really unusual to run into Williams on the street. Or the store. Or in numerous other unexpected places.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1285621427237003265"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>And the thing about people's stories of their \"Robin Williams moment\"? They're usually either \u003cem>very\u003c/em> funny, or genuinely heartwarming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We asked our audiences for their own stories on social media, and were overwhelmed by the response. Here's a short selection of some of the best encounters described for your enjoyment. You can read more of our audience stories on \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/\">this Reddit thread\u003c/a>, or \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/KQEDnews/status/1285621427237003265\">on Twitter\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Some of these comments have been lightly edited for length or clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Back in the day I was the kitchen manager at Josie's Cabaret & Juice Joint. Robin Williams occasionally attended some of our performances. One afternoon I answered the reservation phone and the voice on the other end asked me to hold for 'Mr Williams's Executive Assistant.' After several rapid fire voice changes, I was 'transferred' to 'his special secretary' who sounded quite a bit like Mrs Doubtfire. This 'secretary' proceeded to reserve four tickets for Robin Williams and then switched to his regular voice and gave me his credit card information. \u003cstrong>It was only as I hung up that I realized I had just been treated to an exclusive Robin Williams performance.\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysdxe3/\">MSeanF via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"At the 540 Club on Clement around January 2007. Random Thursday at 4pm. I was the only other one in there. He came with Green Apple Books bag in hand, ordered a shot of tequila, tipped a $20. \u003cstrong>I told him 'Death to Smoochy' is my fave movie. He chatted with me for half an hour. Such a sweet man.\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/CrystalPepsi/status/1285623731046555651\">@CrystalPepsi via Twitter\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My dad took me to see a bicycle race in SF when I was very young. I literally bumped into this strange man wearing bright yellow socks that had the nuclear radiation trefoil pattern on them. My dad said 'This is Robin Williams!' and I shook his hand but asked who he was. \u003cstrong>My dad said 'Genie, from \u003cem>Aladdin'\u003c/em> and Robin said 'You will know who I am one day.'\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysf46b/\">frenchvanilla via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11830104\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1900px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11830104\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1900\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda.jpg 1900w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda-800x539.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda-1020x687.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/zelda-1536x1035.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1900px) 100vw, 1900px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robin Williams (R) and his daughter Zelda at a movie premiere in 2006 \u003ccite>(Kevin Winter/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"He came into a toy store I used to work at in Berkeley with one of his children (a boy), who must have been about three or four at the time (this was around 1994). \u003cstrong>I wanted to respect his privacy and so didn't speak with him, but did get treated to a special performance when he picked up a furry folk wolf puppet. He went crazy with it entertaining his son, who was absolutely in stitches. It was amazing to watch.\u003c/strong> He was so focused and present with his kid; I imagine it must have been quite an experience to grow up with him as a father. He ended up buying the wolf puppet, which I assume went on to an illustrious career at the Williams household.\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysje99/\">thefinancethrowaway via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Living in the Bay Area in the mid ‘80s, just one of a variety of jobs I had was doing balloon deliveries, and the most memorable one ever involved, you got it — Robin Williams. So picture this: there I was ... full clown regalia, colorful costume, clown wig, full face paint, all done up to deliver a birthday balloon bouquet to an office in San Francisco. When the person wasn’t there I left the bouquet with the receptionist ... Feeling a bit dejected, I got on the elevator: it went down one floor, the door opens and who gets in but Robin Williams. Phew! And in that split second when I saw him, I decided he deserved to be a private person and not just a celebrity, and chose not to say anything to him... \u003cstrong>So there I was in this elevator, full clown outfit, with Robin Williams (and damn, he was cute!) and I hear someone ask me if I was a clown and he answers 'No she’s a lawyer, we’re all clowns.'\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysqzwc/\">tallinnigirl via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In the '80s I was working as a waitress at Churchill’s on 6th & Clement. On break with friends from the Last Day Saloon, sitting on the bench outside the Holy City Zoo. \u003cstrong>He came up and did this whole riff about my clogs. Ended up drinking out of one. I worked with a wet shoe.\u003c/strong>\" \u003cstrong>—\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/erinpoh/status/1285638894554423298\">\u003cstrong>@ErinPoh via Twitter\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I hosted a LAN party as part of a Thanksgiving Day celebration at his San Francisco home. \u003cstrong>He was joined in Unreal Arena by his kids and David Crosby while Sharon Stone watched.\u003c/strong> He checked on all the people running games and booths a few times to make sure we were warm and fed. I had a few games available and once he finished blowing up his kids in an Unreal Dungeon, he and David Crosby picked up a WWII air combat flight simulator. I was watching them dogfight when a woman's voice said 'What is going on here?!' and it was Sharon Stone and Phil Bronstein.\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysjyra/\">rhbaby via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My parents's favorite story from when they lived in SF in the 80s: One night, they run into a man with a beautiful golden retriever. Dad of course wants to pet the dog. Stranger waits politely until he’s done. Nobody says anything. \u003cstrong>Turns out to be Robin Williams walking his dog. My dad never looked up from the dog he was petting.\u003c/strong> He had no idea who they had run into until my mom told him later. To this day, his defense is, 'Robin Williams had a very nice dog.'' \u003cstrong>—\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/magmokno/status/1285732574955012099\">\u003cstrong>@magmokno via Twitter\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was eating at The Cheesesteak Shop back in the day with my family and we noticed Robin Williams was with his son at a nearby table. We were ecstatic but didn’t want to bother him. My brother was a little kid and ended up falling asleep at the table. \u003cstrong>When Robin noticed this he brought over a chair from his table and set it next to my brother’s chair so he could sleep more comfortably lying down. It was such a kind and thoughtful gesture.\u003c/strong> We already loved him as an actor but loved him for his sweet caring soul too after that.\" \u003cstrong>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/hvaxzn/happy_birthday_to_robin_williams_19512014_whod/fysutkg/\">JLittle16 via Reddit\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you're craving even \u003cem>more\u003c/em> Robin Williams stories, Broke Ass Stuart has \u003ca href=\"https://brokeassstuart.com/2014/08/12/grieving-sf-comedy-superstars-recall-their-robin-williams-stories/\">this great roundup of memories\u003c/a> from his fellow Bay Area comics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We'll leave you with this tweet from Williams's daughter Zelda, who informed Twitter of how she'd be honoring her dad's 69th birthday today. It might inspire you, too.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1285649335917719559"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11830073/here-are-some-of-your-best-robin-williams-encounters-bay-area","authors":["3243"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_19133","news_1386","news_21022","news_28285"],"featImg":"news_11830106","label":"news"},"news_11748808":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11748808","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11748808","score":null,"sort":[1558477971000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"dave-chappelle-w-kamau-bell-rally-in-s-f-to-save-punch-line-comedy-club","title":"Dave Chappelle, W. Kamau Bell Rally in S.F. to Save Punch Line Comedy Club","publishDate":1558477971,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>A group of comedians — including Dave Chappelle and W. Kamau Bell — joined several San Francisco supervisors on the steps of City Hall Tuesday morning for a rally to save the legendary \u003ca href=\"http://www.punchlinecomedyclub.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Punch Line comedy club\u003c/a>.[pullquote align='right' citation='W. Kamau Bell']'If you let the Punch Line go, it's basically a wrap on San Francisco.'[/pullquote]Earlier this month, Punch Line tweeted that \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/punchlinesf/status/1125960660154585089\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the club is facing closure\u003c/a> in August \"after being unable to renew our lease\" at the 444 Battery Street location that has been their home since 1978.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Any historic comedian will tell you, 'The Punch Line is not just a San Francisco phenomenon, it really is like an American phenomenon.' It's one of the premiere comedy clubs in all the country,\" comedian Dave Chappelle told a crowd of about 50 people. \"When I quit my show that room became like a home to me.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For me personally, it’s like a cultural epicenter of the city,\" Chappelle told KQED. \"Every comedy community needs a place like the Punch Line. It’s really sacred ground, it really is.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/wkamaubell/status/1130911460077400064\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Punch Line is currently operated by Live Nation and the building is owned by a subsidiary of Morgan Stanley. Speakers at the rally were quick to point out that it is not a situation of a cash-strapped small business being pushed out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We’re here to tell the story of a group of scrappy Postmates drivers with no health insurance who are also comedians trying to save a club that's owned by a big corporation from displacement by an even bigger corporation,\" said comedian and rally organizer Nato Green. \"Thats the story of San Francisco in 2019.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speculation has grown that the building owners are likely to lease the space to Google once Punch Line's lease ends in August.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We’re losing the culture of the city and this is one of the things that defines San Francisco. If you let the Punch Line go, it's basically a wrap on San Francisco,\" said W. Kamau Bell, Bay Area comedian and host of CNN's \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/shows/united-shades-of-america\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">United Shades of America\u003c/a>.\" Bell was a staple at the club early in his career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don’t know what the city can do, but if they can do something they’d be saving, literally, what I consider a historical landmark,\" Chappelle said. \"For American culture, it’s one of the most important rooms in America.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supervisor Aaron Peskin announced a series of steps he is taking to attempt to save Punch Line. The first step, taken last Friday, was nominating the club as a legacy business, which would bring financial benefits to Live Nation. Secondly, Peskin — along with Supervisors Hillary Ronen, Sandra Lee Fewer and Ahsha Safaí — plan to introduce an \"interim zoning moratorium\" at the June 4 Board of Supervisors meeting that would prevent the building from being rezoned to any use other than entertainment purposes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/HillaryRonen/status/1130930237066190848\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lastly, Peskin said the city is \"trying to have reasonable conversations with Morgan Stanley\" and that they'd \"like to do this with honey and not vinegar.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Without adding any specific details, Peskin also pleaded directly to the much-speculated future tenant of the building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I want to say to Google: 'Really, really do no evil.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For rally organizer Green and his fellow comedians, the importance of saving Punch Line is obvious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We need the Punch Line to have a local comedy scene,\" Green said. \"The Punch Line has been a birthplace for comedians for generations, for 40 years, generation after generation ... Without the Punch Line you don’t get Kamau, you don’t get Patton Oswalt or Ali Wong or Margaret Cho.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/katewolffe/status/1130911132879806464\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>KQED’s Kate Wolffe contributed to this report.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Since it opened in 1978, Punch Line has become an iconic comedy club that helped launch the careers of Robin Williams, Margaret Cho, Ali Wong and others. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1558480582,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":17,"wordCount":659},"headData":{"title":"Dave Chappelle, W. Kamau Bell Rally in S.F. to Save Punch Line Comedy Club | KQED","description":"Since it opened in 1978, Punch Line has become an iconic comedy club that helped launch the careers of Robin Williams, Margaret Cho, Ali Wong and others. 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Kamau Bell Rally in S.F. to Save Punch Line Comedy Club","source":"News","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/news/","path":"/news/11748808/dave-chappelle-w-kamau-bell-rally-in-s-f-to-save-punch-line-comedy-club","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A group of comedians — including Dave Chappelle and W. Kamau Bell — joined several San Francisco supervisors on the steps of City Hall Tuesday morning for a rally to save the legendary \u003ca href=\"http://www.punchlinecomedyclub.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Punch Line comedy club\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'If you let the Punch Line go, it's basically a wrap on San Francisco.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","citation":"W. 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It’s really sacred ground, it really is.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1130911460077400064"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Punch Line is currently operated by Live Nation and the building is owned by a subsidiary of Morgan Stanley. Speakers at the rally were quick to point out that it is not a situation of a cash-strapped small business being pushed out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We’re here to tell the story of a group of scrappy Postmates drivers with no health insurance who are also comedians trying to save a club that's owned by a big corporation from displacement by an even bigger corporation,\" said comedian and rally organizer Nato Green. \"Thats the story of San Francisco in 2019.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speculation has grown that the building owners are likely to lease the space to Google once Punch Line's lease ends in August.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We’re losing the culture of the city and this is one of the things that defines San Francisco. If you let the Punch Line go, it's basically a wrap on San Francisco,\" said W. Kamau Bell, Bay Area comedian and host of CNN's \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/shows/united-shades-of-america\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">United Shades of America\u003c/a>.\" Bell was a staple at the club early in his career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don’t know what the city can do, but if they can do something they’d be saving, literally, what I consider a historical landmark,\" Chappelle said. \"For American culture, it’s one of the most important rooms in America.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supervisor Aaron Peskin announced a series of steps he is taking to attempt to save Punch Line. The first step, taken last Friday, was nominating the club as a legacy business, which would bring financial benefits to Live Nation. Secondly, Peskin — along with Supervisors Hillary Ronen, Sandra Lee Fewer and Ahsha Safaí — plan to introduce an \"interim zoning moratorium\" at the June 4 Board of Supervisors meeting that would prevent the building from being rezoned to any use other than entertainment purposes.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1130930237066190848"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Lastly, Peskin said the city is \"trying to have reasonable conversations with Morgan Stanley\" and that they'd \"like to do this with honey and not vinegar.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Without adding any specific details, Peskin also pleaded directly to the much-speculated future tenant of the building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I want to say to Google: 'Really, really do no evil.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For rally organizer Green and his fellow comedians, the importance of saving Punch Line is obvious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We need the Punch Line to have a local comedy scene,\" Green said. \"The Punch Line has been a birthplace for comedians for generations, for 40 years, generation after generation ... Without the Punch Line you don’t get Kamau, you don’t get Patton Oswalt or Ali Wong or Margaret Cho.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1130911132879806464"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>KQED’s Kate Wolffe contributed to this report.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11748808/dave-chappelle-w-kamau-bell-rally-in-s-f-to-save-punch-line-comedy-club","authors":["188"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_223","news_1758","news_8"],"tags":["news_21022","news_19542","news_20967","news_17613"],"featImg":"news_11748855","label":"source_news_11748808"},"news_11524710":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11524710","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11524710","score":null,"sort":[1500519667000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"why-this-l-a-comic-no-longer-avoids-trump-territory-on-the-road","title":"Why This L.A. Comic No Longer Avoids Trump Territory on the Road","publishDate":1500519667,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of “\u003ca href=\"http://annenberg.usc.edu/news/students/usc-annenberg-student-journalists-kqeds-california-report-publish-joint-investigation\">At Risk in the Trump Era\u003c/a>,” a four-month investigation by advanced radio students at the USC Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism, exploring how vulnerable communities across Southern California have reacted to the first months of Donald Trump’s presidency. The series profiles individuals burdened by new worries — looking for work, registering for school, or even deciding whether to publicly express their sexual orientation or religious affiliation.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannaclay/.\">Joanna Clay \u003c/a>brings us the story of Sara Schaefer. She's a comedian who had always tried to avoid jokes about politics. That is, until the 2016 presidential election. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sara Schaefer stands in the back of an East Hollywood pizza parlor, test-driving her material before she takes it out on the road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I legitimately saw my therapist do a little victory dance during therapy recently,\" she tells the crowd. \"I was like, 'I think people are having total mental breakdowns right now. They're so anxious about all the news.' And she was like 'great for business!' And she did a little dance.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Politics have long been fodder for comics: take \u003ca href=\"http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/george-w-bush-cold-open/2953423?snl=1\">Will Ferrell’s President George W. Bush impersonation\u003c/a> or \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuc18xISwI\">Melissa McCarthy’s portrayal of White House spokesman Sean Spicer on SNL\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For others, like Schaefer, politics might not be a big part of their comedic repertoire. But the current political climate is pushing comics to step into new territory: Trump territory.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[soundcloud url=\"https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/333938277\" params=\"auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"500\" iframe=\"true\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaefer is a stand-up comedian and writer for Comedy Central’s \"\u003ca href=\"http://www.cc.com/shows/problematic-with-moshe-kasher\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Problematic\u003c/a>.\" Prior to the election, she’d touch on politics lightly, like encouraging people to vote. But it wasn’t heavy-handed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But come January, that shifted. She wanted to make an impact with her work. Get people to wake up a bit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Politics are just dominating everything,” she says. “It’s hard not to write about Donald Trump and what’s happening. It's my only option. It's all I think about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaefer, based in Los Angeles, is known for observational comedy. She talks about personal experience, embarrassing moments, what she sees on TV. But now she’s also pondering alternative facts and the “post-truth” world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sean Spicer apparently has had this long-waged war with Dippin' Dots,” she said. “These are the people in charge. How can you not make fun of this stuff?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"ucXDOA9UrHXX4cCziiC5V02r0XK96TIx\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that doesn’t come without trepidation. Schaefer calls herself a liberal feminist. She knows she may not always share the same views as her audience, especially while touring small towns in the Midwest. And entertaining that audience is priority number one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I want to find a way to talk about that stuff that doesn’t make people stop listening or think that I’m getting up there wagging my finger at them,” she says. “I think that doesn’t really work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s trying out her new material with a very specific audience, one she thinks is really pivotal in this moment in time: college students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They're going to be a big, powerful block of change,\" says Schaefer. \"If they equip themselves, they can potentially save us from some of this craziness that we're in.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the first few months of Trump’s presidency, she left her safe liberal haven of Los Angeles for universities big and small in Wisconsin, Maine and Minnesota, to name a few.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was a chance to feel out this new material and find a way to get people to listen -- regardless of their politics -- and not be turned off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a performance earlier this year in Minneapolis, Schaefer tested out a new joke.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One thing I’ve also noticed is that there’s been a plethora of articles about Trump voters,” she started out. “We need to understand their feelings, their hopes, their special, special needs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"PssluSyBNsi9BXh9NjxR9UgfCGledWQr\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then, a moment later, the punch line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I 100 percent think, like face-to-face contact, like kissing and licking and things like that, empathy are all the ways that we're going to get through this mess. The polarized sides need to come together. We need to talk. We need to have real conversations. I am all for that. These articles are all about that,” she said, as the crowd laughed. “And I agree. Just because you voted for Trump doesn’t mean you’re a racist, You might also be a sexist.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Abigail Mills, a student in the audience, often feels the political divide in her own family. They're conservative and she’s a liberal lesbian.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, joking about those issues, it helps cut the tension for me,” she said, with a laugh.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Sara Schaefer is tackling political comedy for the first time, with some trepidation. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1500944120,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":28,"wordCount":870},"headData":{"title":"Why This L.A. 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Comic No Longer Avoids Trump Territory on the Road","nprByline":"Joanna Clay","path":"/news/11524710/why-this-l-a-comic-no-longer-avoids-trump-territory-on-the-road","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of “\u003ca href=\"http://annenberg.usc.edu/news/students/usc-annenberg-student-journalists-kqeds-california-report-publish-joint-investigation\">At Risk in the Trump Era\u003c/a>,” a four-month investigation by advanced radio students at the USC Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism, exploring how vulnerable communities across Southern California have reacted to the first months of Donald Trump’s presidency. The series profiles individuals burdened by new worries — looking for work, registering for school, or even deciding whether to publicly express their sexual orientation or religious affiliation.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannaclay/.\">Joanna Clay \u003c/a>brings us the story of Sara Schaefer. She's a comedian who had always tried to avoid jokes about politics. That is, until the 2016 presidential election. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sara Schaefer stands in the back of an East Hollywood pizza parlor, test-driving her material before she takes it out on the road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I legitimately saw my therapist do a little victory dance during therapy recently,\" she tells the crowd. \"I was like, 'I think people are having total mental breakdowns right now. They're so anxious about all the news.' And she was like 'great for business!' 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But the current political climate is pushing comics to step into new territory: Trump territory.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cdiv class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__shortcodes__shortcodeWrapper'>\n \u003ciframe width='100%' height='500'\n scrolling='no' frameborder='no'\n src='https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/333938277&visual=true&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true'\n title='https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/333938277'>\n \u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/div>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaefer is a stand-up comedian and writer for Comedy Central’s \"\u003ca href=\"http://www.cc.com/shows/problematic-with-moshe-kasher\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Problematic\u003c/a>.\" Prior to the election, she’d touch on politics lightly, like encouraging people to vote. But it wasn’t heavy-handed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But come January, that shifted. She wanted to make an impact with her work. Get people to wake up a bit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Politics are just dominating everything,” she says. “It’s hard not to write about Donald Trump and what’s happening. It's my only option. It's all I think about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaefer, based in Los Angeles, is known for observational comedy. She talks about personal experience, embarrassing moments, what she sees on TV. But now she’s also pondering alternative facts and the “post-truth” world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sean Spicer apparently has had this long-waged war with Dippin' Dots,” she said. “These are the people in charge. How can you not make fun of this stuff?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that doesn’t come without trepidation. Schaefer calls herself a liberal feminist. She knows she may not always share the same views as her audience, especially while touring small towns in the Midwest. And entertaining that audience is priority number one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I want to find a way to talk about that stuff that doesn’t make people stop listening or think that I’m getting up there wagging my finger at them,” she says. “I think that doesn’t really work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s trying out her new material with a very specific audience, one she thinks is really pivotal in this moment in time: college students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They're going to be a big, powerful block of change,\" says Schaefer. \"If they equip themselves, they can potentially save us from some of this craziness that we're in.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the first few months of Trump’s presidency, she left her safe liberal haven of Los Angeles for universities big and small in Wisconsin, Maine and Minnesota, to name a few.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was a chance to feel out this new material and find a way to get people to listen -- regardless of their politics -- and not be turned off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a performance earlier this year in Minneapolis, Schaefer tested out a new joke.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One thing I’ve also noticed is that there’s been a plethora of articles about Trump voters,” she started out. “We need to understand their feelings, their hopes, their special, special needs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then, a moment later, the punch line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I 100 percent think, like face-to-face contact, like kissing and licking and things like that, empathy are all the ways that we're going to get through this mess. The polarized sides need to come together. We need to talk. We need to have real conversations. I am all for that. These articles are all about that,” she said, as the crowd laughed. “And I agree. Just because you voted for Trump doesn’t mean you’re a racist, You might also be a sexist.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Abigail Mills, a student in the audience, often feels the political divide in her own family. They're conservative and she’s a liberal lesbian.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, joking about those issues, it helps cut the tension for me,” she said, with a laugh.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11524710/why-this-l-a-comic-no-longer-avoids-trump-territory-on-the-road","authors":["byline_news_11524710"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_223","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21022","news_1323","news_4","news_17286"],"affiliates":["news_21178"],"featImg":"news_11524723","label":"news_72"},"news_11559755":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11559755","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11559755","score":null,"sort":[1499806920000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"muslim-comics-provide-much-more-than-laughs-at-fremonts-halal-fest","title":"Muslim Comics Provide Much More Than Laughs at Fremont's Halal Fest","publishDate":1499806920,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Actor and comedian Ahmed Ahmed stepped on a makeshift stage under a white tent clutching a microphone. He looked out at his audience, mostly Muslim families from across the Bay Area and Silicon Valley who were sitting expectantly on rows of folding chairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is a very Muslim comedy show because we're doing comedy under a tent,\" said Egyptian-born Ahmed, who has performed nationwide and in Middle Eastern countries for more than a decade. \"And we are starting on time. If Egyptians were putting on this thing, we'd be starting ... tomorrow!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'Without cross-cultural understandings and handshakes, we live in a very divided world.'\u003ccite>Comedian Ahmed Ahmed\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Ahmed, of \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5589877\">Axis of Evil\u003c/a> Comedy Tour fame, and the other two prominent comedians in Saturday's lineup -- Ramy Youssef and Reginald Moss aka Preacher Moss -- delighted audiences looking for relief from politically charged times and everyday challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The comics performed at the fifth annual \u003ca href=\"http://halalfest.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Halal Fest\u003c/a> in Fremont last weekend, which featured a variety of food trucks offering dishes prepared according to Islamic guidelines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Youssef, 26, said this was a \"special\" performance because he is often the only Muslim at the bars and other venues where he performs his stand-up. Helping to dispel stereotypes is just part of his gig.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2017/07/2017-07-10c-tcr.mp3\" Image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25953_IMG_0801-qut-800x533.jpg\" Title=\"Muslim Comics Lighten Mood at Fremont Halal Festival\" program=\"The California Report\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"A lot of people think that Muslims don't laugh, that they are not willing to take a joke,\" said Youssef, chuckling. \"For some it may be true. But for the most part I think we are a group of people who do love to laugh. It’s a big part of our culture.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During Saturday's performance, Youssef and the other comics touched on their personal experiences dealing with policies that have caused tension and anxiety in Muslim communities throughout the U.S., such as President Trump's travel ban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Youssef told the audience he was \"super upset\" the day the travel ban happened, but that \u003cem>personally\u003c/em> he had a really good day. That's when he was cast for a Taco Bell commercial for fried chicken shell tacos, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And so I'm watching TV and this guy says, 'This is a terrible day for all Muslims,' and I was like, 'Well, not \u003cem>all. ... \u003c/em>It's making my dreams come true,\" said Youssef to laughter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then he joked about the taco itself: “The way that it’s fried it’s going to kill more Americans than any refugee could.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11560160\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11560160 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Preacher Moss jokes about having to go twice through security at airports, as a Muslim and as an African-American. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ahmed, 44, tackled what it's like to be stopped frequently at airports, and to be thrown in what he called the \"brown room\" at LAX and JFK, where he said authorities \"detain Arabs and Muslims.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There was a white guy with a tan in the \u003cem>brown\u003c/em> room,\" said Ahmed, who grew up in Southern California. \"I walk by and I was like, 'Are you even supposed to be in here?' He was like, ‘I don’t know man, I was in the sun for too long.' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'Hey, we are part of American society. We have fun, too.'\u003ccite>Irfan Rydhan, Halal Fest organizer\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Ahmed said one of his goals as a comedian -- particularly while performing in front of diverse audiences -- is to humanize Muslims while making people of all backgrounds laugh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I just like to \u003cem>normalize\u003c/em> us,\" he said. \"Cultural diversity is the best. Without cross-cultural understandings and handshakes, we live in a very divided world.'\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11560155\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11560155 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Noni Azhar (right) and his wife, Aiesha (left, in blue) enjoy lamb gyros while awaiting the comedy show at the Halal Fest in Fremont on July 8, 2017. \"With all the stuff happening in the world it's good to laugh,\" said Azhar, who works in IT and lives in San Jose. \"Comedians tackle the world's problems while making people forget some of their challenges.\" \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Zainab Burney came from San Ramon to see the show. She said she's been worried over political news recently, but seeing the comedians live on stage helped her feel more positive, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It helps lighten the mood and bring everybody together as a community,\" said Burney, a mom of three. \"If you can’t laugh, you can’t enjoy life, especially in these tumultuous times.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This was the first year the Halal Fest offered a comedy lineup, said organizer Irfan Rydhan, adding that the festival's popularity has been growing among Muslims and the general public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We want to show another side of Muslims that people don’t see in the news media, and we've been getting a lot of interest,\" said Rydhan, a San Jose native with a day job in construction management. \"We want to show that, 'Hey, we are part of American society. We have fun, too.' ”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"'Without cross-cultural understandings and handshakes, we live in a very divided world,' said comedian Ahmed Ahmed. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1499813002,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":20,"wordCount":899},"headData":{"title":"Muslim Comics Provide Much More Than Laughs at Fremont's Halal Fest | KQED","description":"'Without cross-cultural understandings and handshakes, we live in a very divided world,' said comedian Ahmed Ahmed. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Muslim Comics Provide Much More Than Laughs at Fremont's Halal Fest","datePublished":"2017-07-11T21:02:00.000Z","dateModified":"2017-07-11T22:43:22.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11559755 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11559755","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/07/11/muslim-comics-provide-much-more-than-laughs-at-fremonts-halal-fest/","disqusTitle":"Muslim Comics Provide Much More Than Laughs at Fremont's Halal Fest","path":"/news/11559755/muslim-comics-provide-much-more-than-laughs-at-fremonts-halal-fest","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Actor and comedian Ahmed Ahmed stepped on a makeshift stage under a white tent clutching a microphone. He looked out at his audience, mostly Muslim families from across the Bay Area and Silicon Valley who were sitting expectantly on rows of folding chairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is a very Muslim comedy show because we're doing comedy under a tent,\" said Egyptian-born Ahmed, who has performed nationwide and in Middle Eastern countries for more than a decade. \"And we are starting on time. If Egyptians were putting on this thing, we'd be starting ... tomorrow!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'Without cross-cultural understandings and handshakes, we live in a very divided world.'\u003ccite>Comedian Ahmed Ahmed\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Ahmed, of \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5589877\">Axis of Evil\u003c/a> Comedy Tour fame, and the other two prominent comedians in Saturday's lineup -- Ramy Youssef and Reginald Moss aka Preacher Moss -- delighted audiences looking for relief from politically charged times and everyday challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The comics performed at the fifth annual \u003ca href=\"http://halalfest.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Halal Fest\u003c/a> in Fremont last weekend, which featured a variety of food trucks offering dishes prepared according to Islamic guidelines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Youssef, 26, said this was a \"special\" performance because he is often the only Muslim at the bars and other venues where he performs his stand-up. Helping to dispel stereotypes is just part of his gig.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2017/07/2017-07-10c-tcr.mp3","image":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25953_IMG_0801-qut-800x533.jpg","title":"Muslim Comics Lighten Mood at Fremont Halal Festival","program":"The California Report","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"A lot of people think that Muslims don't laugh, that they are not willing to take a joke,\" said Youssef, chuckling. \"For some it may be true. But for the most part I think we are a group of people who do love to laugh. It’s a big part of our culture.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During Saturday's performance, Youssef and the other comics touched on their personal experiences dealing with policies that have caused tension and anxiety in Muslim communities throughout the U.S., such as President Trump's travel ban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Youssef told the audience he was \"super upset\" the day the travel ban happened, but that \u003cem>personally\u003c/em> he had a really good day. That's when he was cast for a Taco Bell commercial for fried chicken shell tacos, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And so I'm watching TV and this guy says, 'This is a terrible day for all Muslims,' and I was like, 'Well, not \u003cem>all. ... \u003c/em>It's making my dreams come true,\" said Youssef to laughter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then he joked about the taco itself: “The way that it’s fried it’s going to kill more Americans than any refugee could.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11560160\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11560160 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25954_IMG_0759-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Preacher Moss jokes about having to go twice through security at airports, as a Muslim and as an African-American. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ahmed, 44, tackled what it's like to be stopped frequently at airports, and to be thrown in what he called the \"brown room\" at LAX and JFK, where he said authorities \"detain Arabs and Muslims.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There was a white guy with a tan in the \u003cem>brown\u003c/em> room,\" said Ahmed, who grew up in Southern California. \"I walk by and I was like, 'Are you even supposed to be in here?' He was like, ‘I don’t know man, I was in the sun for too long.' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'Hey, we are part of American society. We have fun, too.'\u003ccite>Irfan Rydhan, Halal Fest organizer\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Ahmed said one of his goals as a comedian -- particularly while performing in front of diverse audiences -- is to humanize Muslims while making people of all backgrounds laugh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I just like to \u003cem>normalize\u003c/em> us,\" he said. \"Cultural diversity is the best. Without cross-cultural understandings and handshakes, we live in a very divided world.'\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11560155\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11560155 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS25955_IMG_0734-qut-1-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Noni Azhar (right) and his wife, Aiesha (left, in blue) enjoy lamb gyros while awaiting the comedy show at the Halal Fest in Fremont on July 8, 2017. \"With all the stuff happening in the world it's good to laugh,\" said Azhar, who works in IT and lives in San Jose. \"Comedians tackle the world's problems while making people forget some of their challenges.\" \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Zainab Burney came from San Ramon to see the show. She said she's been worried over political news recently, but seeing the comedians live on stage helped her feel more positive, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It helps lighten the mood and bring everybody together as a community,\" said Burney, a mom of three. \"If you can’t laugh, you can’t enjoy life, especially in these tumultuous times.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This was the first year the Halal Fest offered a comedy lineup, said organizer Irfan Rydhan, adding that the festival's popularity has been growing among Muslims and the general public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We want to show another side of Muslims that people don’t see in the news media, and we've been getting a lot of interest,\" said Rydhan, a San Jose native with a day job in construction management. \"We want to show that, 'Hey, we are part of American society. We have fun, too.' ”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11559755/muslim-comics-provide-much-more-than-laughs-at-fremonts-halal-fest","authors":["8659"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_223","news_8"],"tags":["news_21022","news_20601","news_17286","news_20467"],"featImg":"news_11560151","label":"news_72"},"news_11479248":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11479248","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11479248","score":null,"sort":[1495870225000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"w-kamau-bell-everything-gets-better-when-it-gets-awkward","title":"W. Kamau Bell: 'Everything Gets Better When it Gets Awkward'","publishDate":1495870225,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Comedian and talk show host \u003ca href=\"http://www.wkamaubell.com/\">W. Kamau Bell\u003c/a> has interviewed fully hooded Klansmen in a dark forest at night. But one of his most vulnerable interviews came when he \u003ca href=\"http://longestshortesttime.com/episode-88-w-kamau-bell-asks-his-mom-about-sex/\">talked with his nearly 80-year- old mother\u003c/a> about her sex life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bell’s fame has spread from Bay Area comedy clubs to the national stage with his hit CNN show \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/shows/united-shades-of-america\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“United Shades of America”\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> -- where he takes a road trip across the country to explore themes of race, identity and politics.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His new memoir, which came out this month, is called \u003ci>The Awkward Thoughts of W. Kamau Bell: Tales of a 6’4” African American, Heterosexual, Cisgender, Left-Leaning, Asthmatic, Black and Proud Blerd, Mama’s Boy, Dad, and Stand-Up Comedian\u003c/i>. He sat down with The California Report Magazine’s host, Sasha Khokha.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Interview Highlights:\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>On being black, 6'4\", and not playing basketball:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I tried, but I didn’t play that well. If I had been great at it, it would be a different book. Then it would be an NBA memoir on ‘how I went from poor to now I’m a gillionaire.’ I just met someone who asked, ‘Were you good at basketball, or were you a waste of height?’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>On being hip in his 40s:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are the age of the current culture. Every record store you walk into is playing '90s music. The '90s are currently what everybody’s into. Once it becomes like Brittany Spears, that’s when we’re done.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>On interviewing his nearly 80-year-old mom about her sex life for the parenting podcast \"\u003ca href=\"https://longestshortesttime.com/\">The Longest Shortest Time\"\u003c/a>\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mean, it made me blush. There’s a couple points where I was like, that’s enough, where I cut her off. You’re not supposed to do that in an interview. But it was my mom. It’s funny, a lot of the work I do, people sort of talk about it as something I’m doing for the world, or maybe for my community. It’s really all pretty selfish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wanted to have that conversation with my mom for a long time because I didn’t know what was going on. We were really close, and there was this one aspect of her life that we hadn’t talked about, her dating life. I sort of had this narrative in my head that my mom was this lonely person.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>On being a dad to two mixed-race daughters with different complexions:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“While they’re clearly sisters, our youngest daughter is much lighter, her hair is much thinner, it’s not as kinky as her sister's. And we’re like, 'Oh, they’re going to have very different experiences.' My wife is #woke. She’s like, ‘Juno’s going to pass.’ And it’s just like wow. There’s two things there. Sami will probably be exotified by some people. And Juno may not be exotified, but she will be able to get into spaces that Sami won’t be able to get into and hear. We’ll have to have two different manuals [for raising our kids.]”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"PhtNYitSLR3r9FAsvom3hgtV1zRPH3pv\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>On staying funny when performing for people with post-election political depression:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have to make sure that the jokes that I’m telling are taking that perspective in, like I’m not talking at you, I’m like, 'I know, I know where we’re all at.'\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was also heartbroken by the election, so I wasn’t different from the audience. I was actually right there with them. Laughter can sort of help motivate. I don’t want you to be sad. I also know how serious the consequences are. If you stay sad, then we’re not going to win. So, let’s get happy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>On interviewing a fully hooded member of the Ku Klux Klan in the woods for his show “United Shades of America\" with a mostly white TV crew:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I kept having to sort of advocate for ‘I need help here,’ that’s a different kind of help than just like, 'What do you need, water?' It’s not that the producers and crew didn’t have my back. They had my physical back but they didn’t have my racial back. Nobody knew how to reach out. Eventually I formed a very deep friendship with them, and now we’re all waking up together. Now they realize, Kamau is actually feeling all this stuff, he’s having a real experience.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGBooYqU1dg\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The guy who runs the show now [in the second season] is a black guy who has a Ph.D. in psychology. And there’s more black and brown faces on the crew. So when we do things that sometimes seem crazy, we have each other’s back physically and emotionally. It’s great to have a crew that you can immediately get into the van when you drive away from the scene and be like, ‘That was crazy!’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>On making a podcast called \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/denzel-washington-is-the-greatest-actor-of-all-time-period/id935756902?mt=2\">\"Denzel Washington is the Greatest Actor of All Time, Period.”\u003c/a> With 118 episodes!\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We didn’t realize how many other people out there felt the same way we did. Fans, other actors, people who auditioned for roles in Denzel Washington movies and didn’t get 'em. There’s a lot of talk in Hollywood, 'Tom Hanks is so great,' 'Will Ferrell is so great.' Why aren’t people doing that for Denzel? How come whenever we have the conversation about who the greatest actors are, it’s always the same white dudes? 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