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At the time they were built, after World War II, the nation was desperate for new housing. But \u003ci>some\u003c/i> of those homes are considered architectural treasures today, especially if they were made by one\u003ci> particular\u003c/i> Silicon Valley real estate developer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Birth of the Eichler\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Let’s travel back in time to the 1940s, when a Bay Area businessman named Joseph Eichler rented the \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/article/bazett-house-hillsborough\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bazett house\u003c/a> in Hillsborough, designed by rock star architect Frank Lloyd Wright. Eichler fell in love. He hired the Wright-loving architecture firm of Anshen and Allen to make him something along the same lines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then Eichler started thinking about making homes for other people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635825\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635825\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"The Bazett house of Hillsborough was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. After renting it, Joseph Eichler was so impressed, he launchd into a new career as a design-savvy tract house developer.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-520x390.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Bazett house of Hillsborough was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. After renting it, Joseph Eichler was so impressed, he launchd into a new career as a design-savvy tract house developer. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of David Weinstein)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“He was looking around for something to do. A lot of people at that time from other professions were going into homebuilding,” says David Weinstein, who writes for the \u003ca href=\"https://www.eichlernetwork.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Eichler Network\u003c/a>, a website for Eichler enthusiasts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eichler’s vision developed gradually, and the homes he built initially in Sunnyvale weren’t much to look at.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“His very first subdivisions don’t look like Eichlers at all,” Weinstein says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But then Robert Anshen convinced Eichler to use architects and designers for his \u003ci>tract houses\u003c/i>, too — something that \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/blog/dave-weinstein/why-joe-wouldn%E2%80%99t-%E2%80%98scrap-architects%E2%80%99\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">most developers\u003c/a> were not doing at the time. That’s what pushed Eichler homes onto a different plane of development: the people he had working for him. If that makes him sound a little like Steve Jobs at Apple, well, that would be an apt comparison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635769\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635769\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-800x507.png\" alt=\"Ads like this one enticed young families to scrimp and save for something better than your average tract house.\" width=\"800\" height=\"507\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-800x507.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-160x101.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-1020x646.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-1180x748.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-960x608.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-240x152.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-375x238.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-520x329.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM.png 1269w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ads like this one enticed young families to scrimp and save for something better than your average tract house. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Page & Turnbull)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“They were always innovating, coming up with new ways for space arrangement. It’s really the spirit of Silicon Valley. These were experimental houses,” says Weinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between 1949 and 1974, when Eichler died, his group built roughly 11,000 homes in California, mostly in the San Francisco Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You’ll find them north, east and south of San Francisco, but Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: \u003ca href=\"http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/civicax/filebank/documents/56865\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 2,700 houses\u003c/a>, packing the tightly curving streets and cul-de-sacs Eichler preferred because they encourage people to hang out with each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two of Palo Alto’s Eichler neighborhoods, Green Gables and Greenmeadow, are historic districts listed in the National Register of Historic Places.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635763\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 500px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11635763\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c.jpg\" alt=\"As blogger Stephen Coles points out on The Midcentury Modernist, when the Pixar team wanted an mid-century modern home for Bob and Helen Parr in “The Incredibles,” they opted for an Eichler. \" width=\"500\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c.jpg 500w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-160x67.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-240x101.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-375x158.jpg 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">As blogger Stephen Coles points out on The Mid-Century Modernist, when the Pixar team wanted a midcentury modern home for Bob and Helen Parr in “The Incredibles,” they opted for an Eichler. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Pixar Animation Studios)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>The Eichler Look\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>From the outside, Eichlers appear modest, crisp, angular. But step inside, and your attention is drawn to floor-to-ceiling windows that look out onto the backyard, taking full advantage of California’s year-round sunshine. You know that phrase “indoor/outdoor living”? This is that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The openness, the airiness, looking up from a window and seeing the sky when you’re in the house,” says Bonnie Borton, an Eichler owner who moved in right after the neighborhood in Palo Alto was built in 1959-1960.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635765\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635765\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"The exterior of Edita Donnelly's remodeled Eichler home in Palo Alto.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The exterior of Edita Donnelly’s remodeled Eichler home in Palo Alto. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If your parents — or grandparents — subscribed to \u003ca href=\"https://www.sunset.com/home-garden/idea-houses\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003ci>Sunset Magazine\u003c/i>\u003c/a>, you’ve seen an Eichler, because for more than two decades, Sunset’s vision of the California Dream House looked like an Eichler: open floor plans, clean lines stretching in every direction. It’s a style that has come to be known as midcentury modern.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even today, when people buy Eichlers and remodel them, they often use Sunset for inspiration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11639898\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11639898\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-800x572.jpg\" alt='Eichler homes makes the most of \"indoor/outdoor living.\"' width=\"800\" height=\"572\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-800x572.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-160x114.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1020x730.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1920x1374.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1180x844.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-960x687.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-240x172.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-375x268.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-520x372.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eichler homes makes the most of “indoor/outdoor living.” \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We replaced everything,” says Edita Donnelly of Palo Alto, who wanted her Eichler to look even more “Eichler-esque” if you will, than it was when she bought it. That is to say, she did things like raise the ceiling in the living room, and she added sliding glass doors to every room in the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We designed it so that every room has access to the outside, and I think that idea came from a \u003ci>Sunset Magazine\u003c/i> model house for me,” Donnelly says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635766\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635766\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Floor-to-ceiling windows in Edita Donnelly's Palo Alto living room draw the eye to the backyard. This is what "indoor/outdoor" living means.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Floor-to-ceiling windows in Edita Donnelly’s Palo Alto living room draw the eye to the backyard. This is what “indoor/outdoor” living means. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>They Used to Be Affordable\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>When Bonnie Borton bought her Eichler in 1960, she paid $19,500. Let that sink in for a moment. Today in Palo Alto, one of these homes can sell for up to $3 million. Eichlers in less affluent cities aren’t quite as pricey, but it’s all a far cry from the days when these homes were sold to people in the middle class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Lovely side note: Eichler also had a nondiscrimination policy and insisted on selling to people of all ethnicities and religions — a progressive attitude that wasn’t matched by many other tract home developers at the time.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in even wealthier neighborhoods, like Atherton and Hillsborough, some people have bought the property and \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/article/slipping-away\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bulldozed the Eichler\u003c/a> to make way for something bigger, newer, \u003ci>whatever\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So in recent years, a number of Eichler-rich neighborhoods in Silicon Valley have developed \u003ca href=\"http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/gov/depts/pln/special_projects/eichler_neighborhood_design_guidelines_.asp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">design guidelines\u003c/a>, zoning overlays or even historic districts in an attempt to keep their neighborhoods aesthetically cohesive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635764\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635764\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-800x529.png\" alt=\"Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: more than 2,700 homes.\" width=\"800\" height=\"529\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-800x529.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-160x106.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-1020x675.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-1180x781.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-960x635.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-240x159.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-375x248.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-520x344.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM.png 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: more than 2,700 homes. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Page & Turnbull)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People who like the Eichlers aren’t saying the wealthy shouldn’t have big houses. They should just do it someplace else,” Weinstein says drolly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rebecca Thompson, another Palo Alto Eichler owner, explains that something as ostensibly simple as adding another story can negatively affects the neighbors, even if tastefully done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because our homes have these floor-to-ceiling windows in the primary living areas, in the master bedroom, in the kitchen, in the living room. Most people don’t have blinds,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most Eichlers are only one story. If you have to install drapes or blinds to block the neighbor’s view, you lose that “indoor/outdoor” space you bought your house to enjoy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the flip side, you might be thinking: Why would someone who can \u003ci>afford\u003c/i> to buy an Eichler in Silicon Valley these days \u003ci>want\u003c/i> to buy one? After all, they’re modestly sized, aging tract homes — some of which now come with zoning restrictions. I asked Thompson, who moved from Seattle to Palo Alto with her husband about eight years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635770\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11635770 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Indoor atriums like this one in the home of Dorene Loew and Jennifer Brown of Palo function as a second living room, outdoors. Californians may take it for granted, but for those who move here, this is jaw-droppingly desirable.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Indoor atriums like this one in the home of Dorene Loew and Jennifer Brown of Palo function as a second living room, outdoors. Californians may take it for granted, but for those who move here, this is jaw-droppingly desirable. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Most people, if they move here from elsewhere, they downsize, because the cost of living is so much more expensive. So we downsized into a smaller house than we had in Seattle. However, we gained access to a large atrium, a front yard, a backyard that we could use for most months out of the year. So we really don’t miss the extra space,” Thompson says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the years, Thompson adds, it’s the neighbors they’ve come to appreciate most: the block parties, book clubs, not to mention shared Rolodexes of plumbers, electricians and interior decorators who specialize in Eichlers. “This is something that doesn’t exist as much anymore in this country. You don’t just buy a home. You’re buying into a community!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To be fair, a lot of tract developers thought they were building communities back in the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s. What’s different about Eichlers? Distinctive design and that definite sense, if you live in one, that you’re living the California Dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Special thanks to Palo Alto real estate agent \u003ca href=\"http://Desireedocktor.com\">Desiree Docktor\u003c/a> for her invaluable help in producing this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635771\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635771\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"If you sense a Japanese aesthetic to Eichlers, you're not imagining things. Joseph Eichler was originally inspired by a rock star American architect who loved Japanese art and design, Frank Lloyd Wright.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">If you sense a Japanese aesthetic to Eichlers, you’re not imagining things. Joseph Eichler was originally inspired by a rock star American architect who loved Japanese art and design, Frank Lloyd Wright. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Between 1949 and 1974, when the developer died, his group built roughly 11,000 homes in California, mostly in the San Francisco Bay Area.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700597298,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":true,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":35,"wordCount":1490},"headData":{"title":"How Joseph Eichler Introduced Stylish Housing for the Masses | KQED","description":"Between 1949 and 1974, when the developer died, his group built roughly 11,000 homes in California, mostly in the San Francisco Bay Area.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"How Joseph Eichler Introduced Stylish Housing for the Masses","datePublished":"2018-01-03T11:00:06.000Z","dateModified":"2023-11-21T20:08:18.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"source":"Bay Curious","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/bay-curious/2018/01/Eichlerpodcastmastered.mp3","path":"/news/11635574/how-joseph-eichler-introduced-stylish-housing-for-the-masses","audioDuration":474000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Suburbia: The very word conjures up rows and rows of cookie-cutter houses, laid out on a vast, grim grid of blah. At the time they were built, after World War II, the nation was desperate for new housing. But \u003ci>some\u003c/i> of those homes are considered architectural treasures today, especially if they were made by one\u003ci> particular\u003c/i> Silicon Valley real estate developer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Birth of the Eichler\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Let’s travel back in time to the 1940s, when a Bay Area businessman named Joseph Eichler rented the \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/article/bazett-house-hillsborough\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bazett house\u003c/a> in Hillsborough, designed by rock star architect Frank Lloyd Wright. Eichler fell in love. He hired the Wright-loving architecture firm of Anshen and Allen to make him something along the same lines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then Eichler started thinking about making homes for other people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635825\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635825\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"The Bazett house of Hillsborough was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. After renting it, Joseph Eichler was so impressed, he launchd into a new career as a design-savvy tract house developer.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-520x390.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Bazett house of Hillsborough was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. After renting it, Joseph Eichler was so impressed, he launchd into a new career as a design-savvy tract house developer. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of David Weinstein)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“He was looking around for something to do. A lot of people at that time from other professions were going into homebuilding,” says David Weinstein, who writes for the \u003ca href=\"https://www.eichlernetwork.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Eichler Network\u003c/a>, a website for Eichler enthusiasts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eichler’s vision developed gradually, and the homes he built initially in Sunnyvale weren’t much to look at.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“His very first subdivisions don’t look like Eichlers at all,” Weinstein says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But then Robert Anshen convinced Eichler to use architects and designers for his \u003ci>tract houses\u003c/i>, too — something that \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/blog/dave-weinstein/why-joe-wouldn%E2%80%99t-%E2%80%98scrap-architects%E2%80%99\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">most developers\u003c/a> were not doing at the time. That’s what pushed Eichler homes onto a different plane of development: the people he had working for him. If that makes him sound a little like Steve Jobs at Apple, well, that would be an apt comparison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635769\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635769\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-800x507.png\" alt=\"Ads like this one enticed young families to scrimp and save for something better than your average tract house.\" width=\"800\" height=\"507\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-800x507.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-160x101.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-1020x646.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-1180x748.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-960x608.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-240x152.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-375x238.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-520x329.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM.png 1269w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ads like this one enticed young families to scrimp and save for something better than your average tract house. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Page & Turnbull)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“They were always innovating, coming up with new ways for space arrangement. It’s really the spirit of Silicon Valley. These were experimental houses,” says Weinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between 1949 and 1974, when Eichler died, his group built roughly 11,000 homes in California, mostly in the San Francisco Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You’ll find them north, east and south of San Francisco, but Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: \u003ca href=\"http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/civicax/filebank/documents/56865\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 2,700 houses\u003c/a>, packing the tightly curving streets and cul-de-sacs Eichler preferred because they encourage people to hang out with each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two of Palo Alto’s Eichler neighborhoods, Green Gables and Greenmeadow, are historic districts listed in the National Register of Historic Places.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635763\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 500px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11635763\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c.jpg\" alt=\"As blogger Stephen Coles points out on The Midcentury Modernist, when the Pixar team wanted an mid-century modern home for Bob and Helen Parr in “The Incredibles,” they opted for an Eichler. \" width=\"500\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c.jpg 500w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-160x67.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-240x101.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-375x158.jpg 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">As blogger Stephen Coles points out on The Mid-Century Modernist, when the Pixar team wanted a midcentury modern home for Bob and Helen Parr in “The Incredibles,” they opted for an Eichler. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Pixar Animation Studios)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>The Eichler Look\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>From the outside, Eichlers appear modest, crisp, angular. But step inside, and your attention is drawn to floor-to-ceiling windows that look out onto the backyard, taking full advantage of California’s year-round sunshine. You know that phrase “indoor/outdoor living”? This is that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The openness, the airiness, looking up from a window and seeing the sky when you’re in the house,” says Bonnie Borton, an Eichler owner who moved in right after the neighborhood in Palo Alto was built in 1959-1960.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635765\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635765\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"The exterior of Edita Donnelly's remodeled Eichler home in Palo Alto.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The exterior of Edita Donnelly’s remodeled Eichler home in Palo Alto. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If your parents — or grandparents — subscribed to \u003ca href=\"https://www.sunset.com/home-garden/idea-houses\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003ci>Sunset Magazine\u003c/i>\u003c/a>, you’ve seen an Eichler, because for more than two decades, Sunset’s vision of the California Dream House looked like an Eichler: open floor plans, clean lines stretching in every direction. It’s a style that has come to be known as midcentury modern.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even today, when people buy Eichlers and remodel them, they often use Sunset for inspiration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11639898\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11639898\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-800x572.jpg\" alt='Eichler homes makes the most of \"indoor/outdoor living.\"' width=\"800\" height=\"572\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-800x572.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-160x114.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1020x730.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1920x1374.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1180x844.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-960x687.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-240x172.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-375x268.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-520x372.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eichler homes makes the most of “indoor/outdoor living.” \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We replaced everything,” says Edita Donnelly of Palo Alto, who wanted her Eichler to look even more “Eichler-esque” if you will, than it was when she bought it. That is to say, she did things like raise the ceiling in the living room, and she added sliding glass doors to every room in the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We designed it so that every room has access to the outside, and I think that idea came from a \u003ci>Sunset Magazine\u003c/i> model house for me,” Donnelly says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635766\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635766\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Floor-to-ceiling windows in Edita Donnelly's Palo Alto living room draw the eye to the backyard. This is what "indoor/outdoor" living means.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Floor-to-ceiling windows in Edita Donnelly’s Palo Alto living room draw the eye to the backyard. This is what “indoor/outdoor” living means. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>They Used to Be Affordable\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>When Bonnie Borton bought her Eichler in 1960, she paid $19,500. Let that sink in for a moment. Today in Palo Alto, one of these homes can sell for up to $3 million. Eichlers in less affluent cities aren’t quite as pricey, but it’s all a far cry from the days when these homes were sold to people in the middle class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Lovely side note: Eichler also had a nondiscrimination policy and insisted on selling to people of all ethnicities and religions — a progressive attitude that wasn’t matched by many other tract home developers at the time.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in even wealthier neighborhoods, like Atherton and Hillsborough, some people have bought the property and \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/article/slipping-away\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bulldozed the Eichler\u003c/a> to make way for something bigger, newer, \u003ci>whatever\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So in recent years, a number of Eichler-rich neighborhoods in Silicon Valley have developed \u003ca href=\"http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/gov/depts/pln/special_projects/eichler_neighborhood_design_guidelines_.asp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">design guidelines\u003c/a>, zoning overlays or even historic districts in an attempt to keep their neighborhoods aesthetically cohesive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635764\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635764\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-800x529.png\" alt=\"Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: more than 2,700 homes.\" width=\"800\" height=\"529\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-800x529.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-160x106.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-1020x675.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-1180x781.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-960x635.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-240x159.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-375x248.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-520x344.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM.png 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: more than 2,700 homes. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Page & Turnbull)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People who like the Eichlers aren’t saying the wealthy shouldn’t have big houses. They should just do it someplace else,” Weinstein says drolly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rebecca Thompson, another Palo Alto Eichler owner, explains that something as ostensibly simple as adding another story can negatively affects the neighbors, even if tastefully done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because our homes have these floor-to-ceiling windows in the primary living areas, in the master bedroom, in the kitchen, in the living room. Most people don’t have blinds,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most Eichlers are only one story. If you have to install drapes or blinds to block the neighbor’s view, you lose that “indoor/outdoor” space you bought your house to enjoy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the flip side, you might be thinking: Why would someone who can \u003ci>afford\u003c/i> to buy an Eichler in Silicon Valley these days \u003ci>want\u003c/i> to buy one? After all, they’re modestly sized, aging tract homes — some of which now come with zoning restrictions. I asked Thompson, who moved from Seattle to Palo Alto with her husband about eight years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635770\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11635770 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Indoor atriums like this one in the home of Dorene Loew and Jennifer Brown of Palo function as a second living room, outdoors. Californians may take it for granted, but for those who move here, this is jaw-droppingly desirable.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Indoor atriums like this one in the home of Dorene Loew and Jennifer Brown of Palo function as a second living room, outdoors. Californians may take it for granted, but for those who move here, this is jaw-droppingly desirable. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Most people, if they move here from elsewhere, they downsize, because the cost of living is so much more expensive. So we downsized into a smaller house than we had in Seattle. However, we gained access to a large atrium, a front yard, a backyard that we could use for most months out of the year. So we really don’t miss the extra space,” Thompson says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the years, Thompson adds, it’s the neighbors they’ve come to appreciate most: the block parties, book clubs, not to mention shared Rolodexes of plumbers, electricians and interior decorators who specialize in Eichlers. “This is something that doesn’t exist as much anymore in this country. You don’t just buy a home. You’re buying into a community!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To be fair, a lot of tract developers thought they were building communities back in the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s. What’s different about Eichlers? Distinctive design and that definite sense, if you live in one, that you’re living the California Dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Special thanks to Palo Alto real estate agent \u003ca href=\"http://Desireedocktor.com\">Desiree Docktor\u003c/a> for her invaluable help in producing this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635771\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635771\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"If you sense a Japanese aesthetic to Eichlers, you're not imagining things. Joseph Eichler was originally inspired by a rock star American architect who loved Japanese art and design, Frank Lloyd Wright.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">If you sense a Japanese aesthetic to Eichlers, you’re not imagining things. Joseph Eichler was originally inspired by a rock star American architect who loved Japanese art and design, Frank Lloyd Wright. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"baycuriousquestion","attributes":{"named":{"label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11635574/how-joseph-eichler-introduced-stylish-housing-for-the-masses","authors":["251"],"programs":["news_6944","news_33523"],"series":["news_17986"],"categories":["news_223","news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_17657","news_22136","news_19542","news_22148","news_803"],"featImg":"news_11639888","label":"source_news_11635574"},"news_11636854":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11636854","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11636854","score":null,"sort":[1513245651000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-are-those-weird-pink-ponds-in-san-francisco-bay-2","title":"What Are Those Weird, Pink Ponds in San Francisco Bay?","publishDate":1513245651,"format":"audio","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>In the South Bay's colorful salt ponds, a decades-old industry continues to crystalize. 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Rainbow flags. Rainbow crosswalks. Gay couples everywhere holding hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had never seen a gayer place.[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But our question asker Bob Girard had a different experience the last time he was in the Castro. He lives in Ventura County with his partner and has visited the Castro a lot over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The last time we were there it just really seemed to have changed a lot,” Girard said. “Doesn’t seem to be quite the same old Castro as in years past.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what has changed?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Well, it just didn’t seem to be as gay as it used to be,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which raises the question: \u003cstrong>Is the Castro getting less gay?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the Castro might look as gay as ever, the rainbow explosion on the streets covers up a changing neighborhood that’s home to fewer and fewer gay people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634607\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634607\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"San Francisco's Castro District on Oct. 27, 2017. Many of the neighborhood's gay residents have been priced out in recent years.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco’s Castro District on Oct. 27, 2017. Many of the neighborhood’s gay residents have been priced out in recent years. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It’s gone from being a gay village to being a tourist destination for people around the world who want to come here and experience a little bit of the gay,” says Don Romesburg, an LGBTQ historian who moved to the Castro in the 1990s after college.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco has long had neighborhoods where LGBTQ people concentrated — North Beach, the Tenderloin, the Polk. But Romesburg says the rise of the Castro in the 1970s was different.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Castro and the gay liberation movement gained speed together, creating a more fully realized neighborhood than any of its predecessors. There weren’t just gay bars and bathhouses in the Castro. There were gay barbers and gay doctors and opportunities to do gay activism with gay nonprofits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To have a place in San Francisco, in the world, where gay people can come together as a community and feel like they truly belong and that there’s no real sense of stigma, that’s what made the Castro very special for me as a young guy in my 20s,” Romesburg says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in a country where gay marriage is legal and acceptance of LGBTQ people is greater than ever, some argue that “gayborhoods” aren’t necessary anymore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634604\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634604\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-800x1057.jpg\" alt='LGBTQ historian Don Romesburg stands in front of the Castro apartment building he was priced out of in 2011. \"There was absolutely no way we could afford anywhere else remotely close to the Castro,\" Romesburg said.' width=\"800\" height=\"1057\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-800x1057.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-160x211.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-1020x1347.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-1180x1558.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-960x1268.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-240x317.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-375x495.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-520x687.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669.jpg 1272w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">LGBTQ historian Don Romesburg stands in front of the Castro apartment building he was priced out of in 2011. “There was absolutely no way we could afford anywhere else remotely close to the Castro,” Romesburg said. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Romesburg agrees that this “post-gay thesis” is part of the reason why there are fewer gay people living in the Castro today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s not the whole story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that’s a little too optimistic,” he says. “I think it’s too shiny and progress-y.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, Romesburg points the finger at a more familiar culprit: gentrification.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Romesburg, the mostly gay white men who moved into the Castro in the 1970s transformed the working-class neighborhood. They rebuilt old Victorian homes that lined the streets and opened popular restaurants and shops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the mid-to-late 1990s, the Castro had become an attractive place to live for queer and straight people alike. Romesburg says this led to a second wave of gentrification that pushed older LGBTQ people — including many older gay men with HIV and AIDS — out of the neighborhood. It also raised costs to the point where young LGBTQ people couldn’t afford to move in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It costs more than $3,800 a month \u003ca href=\"https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-san-francisco-rent-trends/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on average to rent\u003c/a> an apartment in the Castro, according to one company that tracks rents. The \u003ca href=\"http://sfar.stats.10kresearch.com/infoserv/s-v1/bGWu-SAz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">median price of a house\u003c/a> in the neighborhood is close to $3 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Romesburg was renting an apartment in the Castro with his partner and their young daughter when they were forced out a few years ago and couldn’t afford to rent anywhere else in the neighborhood. They stayed in San Francisco, moving to the city’s west side, but Romesburg knows of men who have left the Bay Area, moving to Southern California and even out of state after being priced out of the Castro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A community is woven together like a tapestry, and as you pull out the threads of it, the community becomes much more frayed,” Romesburg says. “I think of the Castro in that way. I feel like, as it becomes more of a global tourist destination and less of a community, it loses some of its heart and some of its soul.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>So where is everyone moving?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>If fewer LGBTQ people are living in the Castro, where are they living?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob Girard and his partner are looking at moving to the Bay Area, but they don’t want to live in San Francisco. They do, however, want to make sure they end up somewhere where they’re not the only gay couple around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not necessary that it needs to be a high percentage,” Girard says of where they’d like to move. “I’d just like to see other gay people out in public once in a while and to have more social opportunities than exist where we live now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Real estate agents say they’ve seen an exodus of LGBTQ people out of San Francisco and into Oakland. Taylor Sublett, an agent who works with a lot of gay clients, says they’re moving to Oakland for the same reason that everyone else is moving to Oakland: affordability, proximity to San Francisco and more space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But unlike the Castro, there’s no one neighborhood in Oakland where gay people are concentrating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the same places you see people concentrating from San Francisco period,” Sublett says. “They want to be able to walk to a coffee or be somewhere with that neighborhood-y feel that they’ve been priced out of in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myles Downes is one of those people. He’s a therapist who has been trying to get out of San Francisco for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634602\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634602\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"Myles Downes looks at houses in Oakland on October 27, 2017. Downes, who is gay, has been living in San Francisco for years and is looking to move somewhere more affordable.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Myles Downes looks at houses in Oakland on Oct. 27, 2017. Downes, who is gay, has been living in San Francisco for years and is looking to move somewhere more affordable. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He says many of his gay friends have moved out of the city, and it’s become harder to maintain those relationships. He’d love to find a place in Oakland where he’s surrounded by other gay people, but like a lot of people making that move, it’s not his top priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was a time when we needed ghettoization because it was safer,” Downes says. “Now we don’t really need that as much. We can go and live in the middle of a predominantly straight community, and people are pretty cool with it and it’s no big deal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But other places in the Bay Area with growing queer communities are trying to be a little more purposeful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sonoma and Alameda counties have the highest proportion of same-sex couples in the Bay Area (and in the state, along with Riverside and Santa Cruz) after San Francisco, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_16_5YR_S1101&prodType=table\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2016 American Community Survey\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]“Sonoma County is so spread out. I think if we all got together in one place, it would really show how many folks are here,” says Alisse Cottle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage was legal in 2015, Cottle and her partner, Jess Borrayo, put a rainbow flag outside Brew Coffee and Beer House, the cafe they run in downtown Santa Rosa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They opened the restaurant at the beginning of the year without any political agenda. But with the flag now waving proudly outside, Brew started becoming a hub for the area’s growing queer community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634605\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634605\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"A rainbow gay pride flag hangs outside Brew in Santa Rosa. Brew's owners put the flag out after the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage legal across the country, and the cafe has since become a hub for Santa Rosa's growing queer community.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A rainbow gay pride flag hangs outside Brew in Santa Rosa. Brew’s owners put the flag out after the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage legal across the country, and the cafe has since become a hub for Santa Rosa’s growing queer community. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It just started fitting a need that clearly people wanted it,” Cottle said. “And we didn’t really have to do much of anything but just be open to it and be willing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://letterpeople.io/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letter People\u003c/a>, Sonoma County’s queer professionals group, started holding its meetings at Brew. \u003ca href=\"http://posimages.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Positive Images\u003c/a>, the county’s LGBTQ youth group, started doing the same.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Transgender people are a big part of Santa Rosa’s LGBTQ community. The city hosts an annual transgender conference, and Brew hosted a party for a group of transgender kids in October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cordelia Southworth, a trans woman, has been living in Santa Rosa for more than 20 years. She has been looking to move to San Francisco recently to be a part of a more active queer community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I’m really enjoying seeing what’s happening up here now that it’s starting to come together and be more visible,” she says. “So I don’t know. It might liven up around here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This post has been updated with the newest data from the American Community Survey.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"How economics and cultural acceptance are changing queer communities across the Bay Area.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700597333,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":true,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":46,"wordCount":1646},"headData":{"title":"Is the Castro Getting Less Gay? | KQED","description":"How economics and cultural acceptance are changing queer communities across the Bay Area.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Is the Castro Getting Less Gay?","datePublished":"2017-12-06T11:00:42.000Z","dateModified":"2023-11-21T20:08:53.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"source":"Bay Curious","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/bay-curious/2017/12/gayborhood-podcast.mp3","audioTrackLength":643,"path":"/news/11634601/is-the-castro-getting-less-gay","audioDuration":658000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">W\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>hen I first moved to San Francisco in the summer of 2016, I was blown away by the Castro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a queer guy who grew up in the Midwest, I had never seen anything like it. Rainbow flags. Rainbow crosswalks. Gay couples everywhere holding hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had never seen a gayer place.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But our question asker Bob Girard had a different experience the last time he was in the Castro. He lives in Ventura County with his partner and has visited the Castro a lot over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The last time we were there it just really seemed to have changed a lot,” Girard said. “Doesn’t seem to be quite the same old Castro as in years past.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what has changed?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Well, it just didn’t seem to be as gay as it used to be,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which raises the question: \u003cstrong>Is the Castro getting less gay?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the Castro might look as gay as ever, the rainbow explosion on the streets covers up a changing neighborhood that’s home to fewer and fewer gay people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634607\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634607\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"San Francisco's Castro District on Oct. 27, 2017. Many of the neighborhood's gay residents have been priced out in recent years.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco’s Castro District on Oct. 27, 2017. Many of the neighborhood’s gay residents have been priced out in recent years. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It’s gone from being a gay village to being a tourist destination for people around the world who want to come here and experience a little bit of the gay,” says Don Romesburg, an LGBTQ historian who moved to the Castro in the 1990s after college.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco has long had neighborhoods where LGBTQ people concentrated — North Beach, the Tenderloin, the Polk. But Romesburg says the rise of the Castro in the 1970s was different.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Castro and the gay liberation movement gained speed together, creating a more fully realized neighborhood than any of its predecessors. There weren’t just gay bars and bathhouses in the Castro. There were gay barbers and gay doctors and opportunities to do gay activism with gay nonprofits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To have a place in San Francisco, in the world, where gay people can come together as a community and feel like they truly belong and that there’s no real sense of stigma, that’s what made the Castro very special for me as a young guy in my 20s,” Romesburg says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in a country where gay marriage is legal and acceptance of LGBTQ people is greater than ever, some argue that “gayborhoods” aren’t necessary anymore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634604\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634604\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-800x1057.jpg\" alt='LGBTQ historian Don Romesburg stands in front of the Castro apartment building he was priced out of in 2011. \"There was absolutely no way we could afford anywhere else remotely close to the Castro,\" Romesburg said.' width=\"800\" height=\"1057\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-800x1057.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-160x211.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-1020x1347.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-1180x1558.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-960x1268.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-240x317.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-375x495.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-520x687.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669.jpg 1272w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">LGBTQ historian Don Romesburg stands in front of the Castro apartment building he was priced out of in 2011. “There was absolutely no way we could afford anywhere else remotely close to the Castro,” Romesburg said. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Romesburg agrees that this “post-gay thesis” is part of the reason why there are fewer gay people living in the Castro today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s not the whole story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that’s a little too optimistic,” he says. “I think it’s too shiny and progress-y.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, Romesburg points the finger at a more familiar culprit: gentrification.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Romesburg, the mostly gay white men who moved into the Castro in the 1970s transformed the working-class neighborhood. They rebuilt old Victorian homes that lined the streets and opened popular restaurants and shops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the mid-to-late 1990s, the Castro had become an attractive place to live for queer and straight people alike. Romesburg says this led to a second wave of gentrification that pushed older LGBTQ people — including many older gay men with HIV and AIDS — out of the neighborhood. It also raised costs to the point where young LGBTQ people couldn’t afford to move in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It costs more than $3,800 a month \u003ca href=\"https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-san-francisco-rent-trends/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on average to rent\u003c/a> an apartment in the Castro, according to one company that tracks rents. The \u003ca href=\"http://sfar.stats.10kresearch.com/infoserv/s-v1/bGWu-SAz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">median price of a house\u003c/a> in the neighborhood is close to $3 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Romesburg was renting an apartment in the Castro with his partner and their young daughter when they were forced out a few years ago and couldn’t afford to rent anywhere else in the neighborhood. They stayed in San Francisco, moving to the city’s west side, but Romesburg knows of men who have left the Bay Area, moving to Southern California and even out of state after being priced out of the Castro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A community is woven together like a tapestry, and as you pull out the threads of it, the community becomes much more frayed,” Romesburg says. “I think of the Castro in that way. I feel like, as it becomes more of a global tourist destination and less of a community, it loses some of its heart and some of its soul.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>So where is everyone moving?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>If fewer LGBTQ people are living in the Castro, where are they living?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob Girard and his partner are looking at moving to the Bay Area, but they don’t want to live in San Francisco. They do, however, want to make sure they end up somewhere where they’re not the only gay couple around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not necessary that it needs to be a high percentage,” Girard says of where they’d like to move. “I’d just like to see other gay people out in public once in a while and to have more social opportunities than exist where we live now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Real estate agents say they’ve seen an exodus of LGBTQ people out of San Francisco and into Oakland. Taylor Sublett, an agent who works with a lot of gay clients, says they’re moving to Oakland for the same reason that everyone else is moving to Oakland: affordability, proximity to San Francisco and more space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But unlike the Castro, there’s no one neighborhood in Oakland where gay people are concentrating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the same places you see people concentrating from San Francisco period,” Sublett says. “They want to be able to walk to a coffee or be somewhere with that neighborhood-y feel that they’ve been priced out of in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myles Downes is one of those people. He’s a therapist who has been trying to get out of San Francisco for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634602\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634602\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"Myles Downes looks at houses in Oakland on October 27, 2017. Downes, who is gay, has been living in San Francisco for years and is looking to move somewhere more affordable.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Myles Downes looks at houses in Oakland on Oct. 27, 2017. Downes, who is gay, has been living in San Francisco for years and is looking to move somewhere more affordable. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He says many of his gay friends have moved out of the city, and it’s become harder to maintain those relationships. He’d love to find a place in Oakland where he’s surrounded by other gay people, but like a lot of people making that move, it’s not his top priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was a time when we needed ghettoization because it was safer,” Downes says. “Now we don’t really need that as much. We can go and live in the middle of a predominantly straight community, and people are pretty cool with it and it’s no big deal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But other places in the Bay Area with growing queer communities are trying to be a little more purposeful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sonoma and Alameda counties have the highest proportion of same-sex couples in the Bay Area (and in the state, along with Riverside and Santa Cruz) after San Francisco, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_16_5YR_S1101&prodType=table\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2016 American Community Survey\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>“Sonoma County is so spread out. I think if we all got together in one place, it would really show how many folks are here,” says Alisse Cottle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage was legal in 2015, Cottle and her partner, Jess Borrayo, put a rainbow flag outside Brew Coffee and Beer House, the cafe they run in downtown Santa Rosa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They opened the restaurant at the beginning of the year without any political agenda. But with the flag now waving proudly outside, Brew started becoming a hub for the area’s growing queer community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634605\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634605\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"A rainbow gay pride flag hangs outside Brew in Santa Rosa. Brew's owners put the flag out after the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage legal across the country, and the cafe has since become a hub for Santa Rosa's growing queer community.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A rainbow gay pride flag hangs outside Brew in Santa Rosa. Brew’s owners put the flag out after the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage legal across the country, and the cafe has since become a hub for Santa Rosa’s growing queer community. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It just started fitting a need that clearly people wanted it,” Cottle said. “And we didn’t really have to do much of anything but just be open to it and be willing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://letterpeople.io/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letter People\u003c/a>, Sonoma County’s queer professionals group, started holding its meetings at Brew. \u003ca href=\"http://posimages.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Positive Images\u003c/a>, the county’s LGBTQ youth group, started doing the same.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Transgender people are a big part of Santa Rosa’s LGBTQ community. The city hosts an annual transgender conference, and Brew hosted a party for a group of transgender kids in October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cordelia Southworth, a trans woman, has been living in Santa Rosa for more than 20 years. She has been looking to move to San Francisco recently to be a part of a more active queer community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I’m really enjoying seeing what’s happening up here now that it’s starting to come together and be more visible,” she says. “So I don’t know. It might liven up around here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This post has been updated with the newest data from the American Community Survey.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"baycuriousquestion","attributes":{"named":{"label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11634601/is-the-castro-getting-less-gay","authors":["11260"],"programs":["news_6944","news_33523"],"series":["news_17986"],"categories":["news_6266","news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_22136","news_3252","news_20004"],"featImg":"news_11635012","label":"source_news_11634601"},"news_11629563":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11629563","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11629563","score":null,"sort":[1510259413000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"bay-curious-lightning-round-inspiration-for-at-ats-the-tenderloin-and-popeyes-voice","title":"Bay Curious Lightning Round: Inspiration for AT-ATs, the 'Tenderloin' and Popeye's Voice","publishDate":1510259413,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Bay Curious Lightning Round: Inspiration for AT-ATs, the ‘Tenderloin’ and Popeye’s Voice | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>This week the Bay Curious podcast is celebrating our one-year anniversary with a lightning round of questions and answers!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Is it true that George Lucas was inspired to create the AT-AT because of the cranes at the Port of Oakland?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>No. Sadly, this is not true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>George Lucas \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Nah-dude-they-weren-t-cranes-they-were-garbage-3279459.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">told the San Francisco Chronicle’s Peter Hartlaub\u003c/a>, “That’s a myth. That is definitely a myth.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hartlaub also followed up with Phil Tippett, the stop-motion animator who oversaw production of the AT-AT sequence. Tippett allows for a small chance that somewhere in the process someone looked at the cranes, but added that the original vehicles actually looked nothing like container cranes, and more like garbage trucks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sidenote on Phil Tippett: He was credited as “Dinosaur Supervisor” at the end of “Jurassic Park” and has been the \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeed.com/scottybryan/the-dinosaur-supervisor-on-jurassic-park-has-the-perfect-res?utm_term=.qbrA6VbwXd#.heZN2kMOdE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">topic of several popular internet memes\u003c/a>. Poor guy has spent years now explaining what the “supervision” element of his job actually was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Question submitted by Bay Curious listener Matteen Mokalla. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM.png\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11629443 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-800x452.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-800x452.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-160x90.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-1020x576.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-1180x666.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-960x542.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-240x136.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-375x212.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-520x294.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398.png 1498w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How did the Tenderloin get its name?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In the mid-1800s the Tenderloin was a great spot to spend a night out on the town, but by the late 1800s, crime had crept into the neighborhood. It was around this time that people began calling the area the Tenderloin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So how did it get the name? Was it a reference to the “tender loins” of prostitutes who did business there? Or maybe something to do with the shape of the neighborhood?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No. According to the Tenderloin Museum, the name came from a New York City police captain named Alexander Williams who supposedly called vice-heavy areas the “tenderloin”, in reference to all the bribes he would get for turning a blind eye to illegal activities. Williams was quoted as saying, “I’ve had nothing but chuck steak for a long time, and now I’m going to get a little of the tenderloin.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He hoped to buy nicer meat with his bribe money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Question submitted by Bay Curious listener Kevin Beach. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8O0PwGSoO0\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Is it true that the original voice of Popeye died in a San Jose trailer park?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Yes. The gruff voice of William Costello was the original voice of Popeye the Sailor Man.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the show’s producers wanted a softer voice for Popeye, and Costello was becoming difficult to work with. One day, while the show was in the middle of production, Costello asked for a vacation and he was fired.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After that, Costello had a long career as a musician. According to his obituary, Costello worked with Ginger Rogers and Bing Crosby and went on to play in over 100 orchestras.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the late 1950s, he retired to manage a trailer park in San Jose. He remained manager until he died in 1971 at the age of 73.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Question submitted by Bay Curious listener Peter Caravalho. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch2>Why Are There Rainbows on the Tunnel Between S.F. and Marin?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>We answered this question in a separate post. \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/11/09/why-are-there-rainbows-on-the-tunnel-between-s-f-and-marin-plus-bonus-anniversary-questions/\" rel=\"noopener\">Check it out! \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"'Were the AT-ATs in 'Star Wars' inspired by the cranes at the Port of Oakland?' and more questions answered!","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700597370,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":true,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":532},"headData":{"title":"Bay Curious Lightning Round: Inspiration for AT-ATs, the 'Tenderloin' and Popeye's Voice | KQED","description":"'Were the AT-ATs in 'Star Wars' inspired by the cranes at the Port of Oakland?' and more questions answered!","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Bay Curious Lightning Round: Inspiration for AT-ATs, the 'Tenderloin' and Popeye's Voice","datePublished":"2017-11-09T20:30:13.000Z","dateModified":"2023-11-21T20:09:30.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"source":"Bay Curious","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/news/series/baycurious","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/bay-curious/2017/11/oneyearshow.mp3","WpOldSlug":"bay-curious-lighting-round-inspiration-for-at-ats-the-tenderloin-and-popeyes-voice","path":"/news/11629563/bay-curious-lightning-round-inspiration-for-at-ats-the-tenderloin-and-popeyes-voice","audioDuration":903000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>This week the Bay Curious podcast is celebrating our one-year anniversary with a lightning round of questions and answers!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Is it true that George Lucas was inspired to create the AT-AT because of the cranes at the Port of Oakland?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>No. Sadly, this is not true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>George Lucas \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Nah-dude-they-weren-t-cranes-they-were-garbage-3279459.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">told the San Francisco Chronicle’s Peter Hartlaub\u003c/a>, “That’s a myth. That is definitely a myth.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hartlaub also followed up with Phil Tippett, the stop-motion animator who oversaw production of the AT-AT sequence. 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Poor guy has spent years now explaining what the “supervision” element of his job actually was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Question submitted by Bay Curious listener Matteen Mokalla. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM.png\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11629443 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-800x452.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-800x452.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-160x90.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-1020x576.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-1180x666.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-960x542.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-240x136.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-375x212.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398-520x294.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-08-at-8.39.26-PM-e1510203144398.png 1498w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How did the Tenderloin get its name?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In the mid-1800s the Tenderloin was a great spot to spend a night out on the town, but by the late 1800s, crime had crept into the neighborhood. It was around this time that people began calling the area the Tenderloin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So how did it get the name? Was it a reference to the “tender loins” of prostitutes who did business there? Or maybe something to do with the shape of the neighborhood?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No. According to the Tenderloin Museum, the name came from a New York City police captain named Alexander Williams who supposedly called vice-heavy areas the “tenderloin”, in reference to all the bribes he would get for turning a blind eye to illegal activities. 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