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At age 100, she’s in good health. She scoots around her Burlingame assisted living facility with her walker, cracking jokes and greeting friends. She collects memorabilia that celebrates her Irish heritage, and likes to show it off to visitors, brandishing a “Tis a Blessing to be Irish” throw pillow with a giggle and a twinkle in her eye.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, Hurley is part of a group of people held up by gerontologists as kind of heroes of “successful aging”: American Catholic nuns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They not only live much longer than their lay peers, they also are physiologically healthier and psychologically healthier — happier — at the end of life,” says Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College in Moraga, California. 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But, partway through the hymn, Toolan stops playing, mid-phrase. “I have a hard time with my hand,” she mutters to herself, massaging the arthritic joints.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11833120\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11833120\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-800x1067.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-scaled.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1122x1496.jpg 1122w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-840x1120.jpg 840w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-687x916.jpg 687w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-414x552.jpg 414w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-354x472.jpg 354w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sister Suzanne Toolan has been a musician for nearly 80 years. \u003ccite>(Tina Antolini)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Because of arthritis, Toolan can’t play the way she used to, and she has a tendency to get down on herself for not being able to contribute as she always has. “Looking back, I wrote things for events — and that doesn’t come my way much anymore,” she says. “I can make it, but I just may be a little lazy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As soon as Toolan admitted this, another one of her fellow sisters, listening in on the conversation, swoops in. Sister Brian Kelber tells Toolan that she’s “the heart” of the Mercy Center’s liturgy and music. Kelber supplies an anecdote about Toolan having given her the job of carrying the music, so that she could feel included, even though she couldn’t sing. “Your talents are wonderful, Suzie,” she says, “but you are the gift.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan, just by being who she was, was contributing in her sister’s eyes. Corwin says this is the ethic so different from American society at large. Even though the nuns do an enormous amount, devoting themselves to charitable work, “there is so much socialization in the convent towards the idea that being a good person is much more important than doing good in the world,” Corwin says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in the convent, there are ways of contributing that aren’t physically demanding. Just praying for someone is valuable, Corwin says. This attitude around the person being the most important thing — beyond what they can productively offer — extends to even more extreme situations. At Mercy Center’s assisted living facility, I saw sisters with even bigger physical or cognitive challenges being integrated into daily life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College\"]'There’s not a resistance to the end of life. And there's a sense that it's to be embraced as natural and normal and not to be looked away from and not to be avoided.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan and her best friend, 87-year-old Marguerite Buchanan, tell me that they have another friend, Pat, who has dementia. Pat had been the president of their community of nuns before she started struggling with memory loss. “She can’t remember 10 minutes ago,” Buchanan tells me. “It’s getting so much worse.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite this, Pat is not walled off on her own, with other people who have memory issues. She’s folded into the social life of the convent. She loves \"Wheel of Fortune,\" so Toolan and Buchanan watch it with her every night. “And she’s good actually!” Toolan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Really good,” Buchanan chimes in. She’s invited to play Rummikub with another nun and still wins occasionally. She plays bingo. Her friends have learned to accept that they need to enjoy her as she is, not as she used to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>It's OK to Give Up Control\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For many people in the U.S., being in control — of where you live, what you eat, who your friends are, what your future holds — is paramount. But the nuns took a vow of obedience decades ago that meant they gave up a lot of that autonomy. Corwin says, “They had this practice having let go of control.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Buchanan says getting older has accentuated that emphasis on giving up control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of letting go around here. You know, physical limitations — we all laugh at each other. It’s like we think we're going to have to be this certain way all our lives,” Buchanan chuckles to herself. “Well, sorry. It's not the way it is.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan jumps in. “I feel like I got so much,” she says, when so many people have so little. “Every night, I pray for people who are homeless. And I have hard time not feeling guilty.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mean, what the heck did we do to deserve this?” Buchanan chimes in, on the gratitude she and so many sisters feel for the comfort and happiness of their older years. “You know, you just kind of fell into it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>A Friendlier Attitude Toward Death\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In the U.S., there’s a general avoidance of death — as if, maybe if we don't talk about it, it won't happen? But in the convent, there’s comfort around it. When someone is dying, the sisters take turns sitting with them, so they won’t be alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag=\"aging\" label=\"related coverage\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also talk a lot about their own deaths. Hurley says she’s already thought about what kind of funeral she’d like to have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have a sister who looks ahead,” she says, “and gives us a certain kind of slip to put on the outfit we want to wear in the coffin.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Corwin says nuns’ attitudes around death are probably helped by a theology that doesn’t consider it an end point. Nuns at Mercy Center spoke to me about a sense of being reunited with lost family members and friends when they die. Few of them spoke of it fearfully.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s not a resistance to the end of life,” Corwin says. “And there's a sense that it's to be embraced as natural and normal and not to be looked away from and not to be avoided. It can be managed as gracefully as any other thing that they encounter in life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I, obviously, am not a nun. Chances are, neither are you. So, what does looking at their different ways of viewing aging mean for us? I see it pointing the way our society could go. Corwin says that it revealed the fact that the difficulty and fear so many of us have around getting older in this country is a cultural one. Other cultures — including many vibrant immigrant cultures here in the U.S. — have a different way of thinking about elders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There could be a cultural shift for all of us,\" Corwin says. And the starting point for that may just be acceptance: Yes, we’re going to get older. And that is natural. And fine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of a series on ageism, and the lived reality of growing older called The Third Act. It was produced with the support of a journalism fellowship from The Gerontological Society of America, Journalists Network on Generations and the Silver Century Foundation, with additional support from California Humanities.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Gerontologists uphold American Catholic nuns as kind of heroes of “successful aging.” So, what are the nuns doing differently?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1597450916,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":37,"wordCount":1939},"headData":{"title":"What We Learn From the Long Lives of Nuns (Think: People, Not Productivity) | KQED","description":"Gerontologists uphold American Catholic nuns as kind of heroes of “successful aging.” So, what are the nuns doing differently?","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"What We Learn From the Long Lives of Nuns (Think: People, Not Productivity)","datePublished":"2020-08-15T14:00:42.000Z","dateModified":"2020-08-15T00:21:56.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11831757 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11831757","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/08/15/what-we-learn-from-the-long-lives-of-nuns-think-people-not-productivity/","disqusTitle":"What We Learn From the Long Lives of Nuns (Think: People, Not Productivity)","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/bc8805f7-8163-4c07-9842-ac100182d146/audio.mp3","nprByline":"Tina Antolini","path":"/news/11831757/what-we-learn-from-the-long-lives-of-nuns-think-people-not-productivity","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>By nearly every measure, Mary Edith Hurley is a shining example of elderhood. At age 100, she’s in good health. She scoots around her Burlingame assisted living facility with her walker, cracking jokes and greeting friends. She collects memorabilia that celebrates her Irish heritage, and likes to show it off to visitors, brandishing a “Tis a Blessing to be Irish” throw pillow with a giggle and a twinkle in her eye.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, Hurley is part of a group of people held up by gerontologists as kind of heroes of “successful aging”: American Catholic nuns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They not only live much longer than their lay peers, they also are physiologically healthier and psychologically healthier — happier — at the end of life,” says Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College in Moraga, California. For the past decade, Corwin has been studying aging nuns, and she discovered a paradox: They’re held up as models of successful aging, but, in fact, Anna says, “They don’t see aging as successful or unsuccessful — they just see it as just natural.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, what are the nuns doing differently? I spent some time last fall — before coronavirus made such reporting dangerous — in the convent of the Sisters of Mercy in Burlingame. The convent is home to so many aging nuns that it has an on-site assisted living facility, called Marion Oaks, which is where Hurley lives. What I found was that the nuns turn many common assumptions we have about getting older upside down.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Interdependence Is Celebrated\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>On a Sunday early evening, about a dozen nuns get together in an upstairs room full of couches in the Mercy Center convent. After an informal prayer service — some hymn-singing and bible readings — they have a social gathering that strongly resembles a cocktail hour. A table in the corner is stocked with a cheese platter and other snacks, along with wine, beer ... and whiskey. Several sisters are pleased to see single malt scotch among the offerings. “This is a Sunday ritual,” one of them tells me. “Prayer. Social. Dinner.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'When there were older nuns who needed their care, they were there for them. And so then a little later in their lives, when they are the ones who need care and have to depend on each other — that seems like a natural sort of circular path.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is a cheerful conviviality to the room, enhanced by the fact that many of these women have been living together since they became nuns, decades ago. They are practiced at communal living. Corwin says they learn to rely on each other long before getting old demands it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When there were older nuns who needed their care, they were there for them,” Corwin says. “And so then a little later in their lives, when they are the ones who need care and have to depend on each other — that seems like a natural sort of circular path.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I pay close attention to those sisters that are older than myself,” says Sister Joan Marie O’Donnell, “some of them who've been mentors to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>O’Donnell is 78 years old and has been a sister of Mercy since she was 18. She recently retired, after having worked for decades as a high school teacher and then in health care for elders. O’Donnell says the women around her supply a vision for how to navigate post-retirement life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Very often when I visit a sister, I’ll come home and I'll say, ‘Joan, take note, you know, take note, I mean, really take this in. This is awesome,' \" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Interdependence is a long-standing and celebrated aspect of convent life.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Person Is More Important Than Productivity\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Sister Suzanne Toolan is 92, and has been a musician — an organist and a composer — for going on eight decades. When I meet her, she sits down at the keyboard in her suite of rooms at the convent’s assisted living facility, and plays me a hymn she wrote, “I Am the Bread of Life.” It’s in hymnals all across the country; I grew up singing it in the Episcopal Church. But, partway through the hymn, Toolan stops playing, mid-phrase. “I have a hard time with my hand,” she mutters to herself, massaging the arthritic joints.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11833120\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11833120\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-800x1067.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-scaled.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1122x1496.jpg 1122w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-840x1120.jpg 840w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-687x916.jpg 687w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-414x552.jpg 414w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-354x472.jpg 354w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sister Suzanne Toolan has been a musician for nearly 80 years. \u003ccite>(Tina Antolini)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Because of arthritis, Toolan can’t play the way she used to, and she has a tendency to get down on herself for not being able to contribute as she always has. “Looking back, I wrote things for events — and that doesn’t come my way much anymore,” she says. “I can make it, but I just may be a little lazy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As soon as Toolan admitted this, another one of her fellow sisters, listening in on the conversation, swoops in. Sister Brian Kelber tells Toolan that she’s “the heart” of the Mercy Center’s liturgy and music. Kelber supplies an anecdote about Toolan having given her the job of carrying the music, so that she could feel included, even though she couldn’t sing. “Your talents are wonderful, Suzie,” she says, “but you are the gift.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan, just by being who she was, was contributing in her sister’s eyes. Corwin says this is the ethic so different from American society at large. Even though the nuns do an enormous amount, devoting themselves to charitable work, “there is so much socialization in the convent towards the idea that being a good person is much more important than doing good in the world,” Corwin says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in the convent, there are ways of contributing that aren’t physically demanding. Just praying for someone is valuable, Corwin says. This attitude around the person being the most important thing — beyond what they can productively offer — extends to even more extreme situations. At Mercy Center’s assisted living facility, I saw sisters with even bigger physical or cognitive challenges being integrated into daily life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'There’s not a resistance to the end of life. And there's a sense that it's to be embraced as natural and normal and not to be looked away from and not to be avoided.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan and her best friend, 87-year-old Marguerite Buchanan, tell me that they have another friend, Pat, who has dementia. Pat had been the president of their community of nuns before she started struggling with memory loss. “She can’t remember 10 minutes ago,” Buchanan tells me. “It’s getting so much worse.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite this, Pat is not walled off on her own, with other people who have memory issues. She’s folded into the social life of the convent. She loves \"Wheel of Fortune,\" so Toolan and Buchanan watch it with her every night. “And she’s good actually!” Toolan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Really good,” Buchanan chimes in. She’s invited to play Rummikub with another nun and still wins occasionally. She plays bingo. Her friends have learned to accept that they need to enjoy her as she is, not as she used to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>It's OK to Give Up Control\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For many people in the U.S., being in control — of where you live, what you eat, who your friends are, what your future holds — is paramount. But the nuns took a vow of obedience decades ago that meant they gave up a lot of that autonomy. Corwin says, “They had this practice having let go of control.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Buchanan says getting older has accentuated that emphasis on giving up control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of letting go around here. You know, physical limitations — we all laugh at each other. It’s like we think we're going to have to be this certain way all our lives,” Buchanan chuckles to herself. “Well, sorry. It's not the way it is.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan jumps in. “I feel like I got so much,” she says, when so many people have so little. “Every night, I pray for people who are homeless. And I have hard time not feeling guilty.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mean, what the heck did we do to deserve this?” Buchanan chimes in, on the gratitude she and so many sisters feel for the comfort and happiness of their older years. “You know, you just kind of fell into it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>A Friendlier Attitude Toward Death\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In the U.S., there’s a general avoidance of death — as if, maybe if we don't talk about it, it won't happen? But in the convent, there’s comfort around it. When someone is dying, the sisters take turns sitting with them, so they won’t be alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"aging","label":"related coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also talk a lot about their own deaths. Hurley says she’s already thought about what kind of funeral she’d like to have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have a sister who looks ahead,” she says, “and gives us a certain kind of slip to put on the outfit we want to wear in the coffin.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Corwin says nuns’ attitudes around death are probably helped by a theology that doesn’t consider it an end point. Nuns at Mercy Center spoke to me about a sense of being reunited with lost family members and friends when they die. Few of them spoke of it fearfully.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s not a resistance to the end of life,” Corwin says. “And there's a sense that it's to be embraced as natural and normal and not to be looked away from and not to be avoided. It can be managed as gracefully as any other thing that they encounter in life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I, obviously, am not a nun. Chances are, neither are you. So, what does looking at their different ways of viewing aging mean for us? I see it pointing the way our society could go. Corwin says that it revealed the fact that the difficulty and fear so many of us have around getting older in this country is a cultural one. Other cultures — including many vibrant immigrant cultures here in the U.S. — have a different way of thinking about elders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There could be a cultural shift for all of us,\" Corwin says. And the starting point for that may just be acceptance: Yes, we’re going to get older. And that is natural. And fine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of a series on ageism, and the lived reality of growing older called The Third Act. It was produced with the support of a journalism fellowship from The Gerontological Society of America, Journalists Network on Generations and the Silver Century Foundation, with additional support from California Humanities.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11831757/what-we-learn-from-the-long-lives-of-nuns-think-people-not-productivity","authors":["byline_news_11831757"],"programs":["news_26731"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_2814","news_2824"],"featImg":"news_11831758","label":"news_26731"},"news_11811870":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11811870","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11811870","score":null,"sort":[1586646900000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"how-do-you-cope-when-your-elderly-parents-are-abroad-during-covid-19","title":"How do You Cope When Your Elderly Parents are Abroad During COVID-19?","publishDate":1586646900,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>With so much of the world sheltering-in-place for COVID-19, people with aging parents are already nervous. That concern is particularly keen for Indian Americans in the South Bay with aging parents in India.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meeta Singh moved from Delhi to Utah in 2010 with her husband, daughter and son. Since then, they've moved to Morgan Hill, California and her children left home for college. But after COVID-19 closed many schools, both kids are home for the next few weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The house is full and it's nice to have family around, but, of course, under these circumstances, everybody is pretty tense,\" Singh said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Singh feels especially tense these days when she thinks about her parents, who still live in India. After not seeing them for three years, she was planning a trip in April to stay with them for a month. Her trip got cancelled when COVID-19 hit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"coronavirus\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, there have been about 117 reported deaths in India, a relatively small number for a country of 1.3 billion people. But on March 24, Prime Minister Narendra Modi issued a nationwide lockdown until April 14. The rules are similar to those for the Bay Area's \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11806988/sheltering-in-place-what-you-need-to-know\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">shelter-in-place\u003c/a> orders: stay inside and only go out for essential services like grocery shopping and to seek medical attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Indian Police are using force against people they believe are breaking lockdown rules.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11811884\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11811884\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender-800x1200.jpeg\" alt=\"Meeta Singh's parents still live in India and are in their 80s. Until April 14th, the entire country of India is on lockdown.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1200\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender-800x1200.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender-160x240.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender-1020x1530.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender.jpeg 1472w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Meeta Singh's parents still live in India and are in their 80s. Until April 14, the entire country of India is on lockdown. \u003ccite>(Photo courtesy of Meeta Singh)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Singh's parents are doing their best to stay inside, but Singh is still worried. Both her parents are diabetic and her mom just got an ear infection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm thankful to God that the medicines are being delivered to home and [my mother] is getting her medication, whatever she needs,\" Singh said. But, \"For the first time, they're all alone,\" she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Usually, one of her two brothers is home to take care of her parents. But her elder brother is stuck in London and her younger brother was sent to Singapore for pilot training. Worse, Singh is nervous that her mom may be getting cabin fever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Yesterday she had gone out for a walk, and I said 'No, you're not allowed at all,\" Singh said. \"She said, 'no, I just go and there's nobody around and it's all safe,' and I said 'No! Mom, you can't go out!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Singh talks to her parents every day on WhatsApp. They tell her they're doing fine and that she shouldn't worry about them. But she still does.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Meeta Singh, who grew up in Delhi feels especially tense these days when she thinks about her parents, who still live in India. After not seeing them for three years, she was planning a trip in April.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1586822991,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":14,"wordCount":458},"headData":{"title":"How do You Cope When Your Elderly Parents are Abroad During COVID-19? | KQED","description":"Meeta Singh, who grew up in Delhi feels especially tense these days when she thinks about her parents, who still live in India. 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That concern is particularly keen for Indian Americans in the South Bay with aging parents in India.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meeta Singh moved from Delhi to Utah in 2010 with her husband, daughter and son. Since then, they've moved to Morgan Hill, California and her children left home for college. But after COVID-19 closed many schools, both kids are home for the next few weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The house is full and it's nice to have family around, but, of course, under these circumstances, everybody is pretty tense,\" Singh said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Singh feels especially tense these days when she thinks about her parents, who still live in India. After not seeing them for three years, she was planning a trip in April to stay with them for a month. Her trip got cancelled when COVID-19 hit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"coronavirus"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, there have been about 117 reported deaths in India, a relatively small number for a country of 1.3 billion people. But on March 24, Prime Minister Narendra Modi issued a nationwide lockdown until April 14. The rules are similar to those for the Bay Area's \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11806988/sheltering-in-place-what-you-need-to-know\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">shelter-in-place\u003c/a> orders: stay inside and only go out for essential services like grocery shopping and to seek medical attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Indian Police are using force against people they believe are breaking lockdown rules.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11811884\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11811884\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender-800x1200.jpeg\" alt=\"Meeta Singh's parents still live in India and are in their 80s. Until April 14th, the entire country of India is on lockdown.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1200\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender-800x1200.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender-160x240.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender-1020x1530.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/FullSizeRender.jpeg 1472w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Meeta Singh's parents still live in India and are in their 80s. Until April 14, the entire country of India is on lockdown. \u003ccite>(Photo courtesy of Meeta Singh)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Singh's parents are doing their best to stay inside, but Singh is still worried. Both her parents are diabetic and her mom just got an ear infection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm thankful to God that the medicines are being delivered to home and [my mother] is getting her medication, whatever she needs,\" Singh said. But, \"For the first time, they're all alone,\" she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Usually, one of her two brothers is home to take care of her parents. But her elder brother is stuck in London and her younger brother was sent to Singapore for pilot training. Worse, Singh is nervous that her mom may be getting cabin fever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Yesterday she had gone out for a walk, and I said 'No, you're not allowed at all,\" Singh said. \"She said, 'no, I just go and there's nobody around and it's all safe,' and I said 'No! Mom, you can't go out!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Singh talks to her parents every day on WhatsApp. They tell her they're doing fine and that she shouldn't worry about them. But she still does.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11811870/how-do-you-cope-when-your-elderly-parents-are-abroad-during-covid-19","authors":["11672"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_27510","news_2814","news_27350","news_27504","news_26027","news_22072","news_27626","news_18436","news_22750","news_2538","news_25551","news_21285"],"featImg":"news_11811881","label":"source_news_11811870"},"news_11795655":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11795655","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11795655","score":null,"sort":[1578777262000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"new-law-aims-to-help-americans-without-retirement-plans-will-it-work","title":"New Law Aims to Help Americans Without Retirement Plans. Will it Work?","publishDate":1578777262,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>The most powerful way to get people to save for retirement in recent decades has been through benefits offered at their job. But a lot of people — about half the American workforce — don't get that from their employers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Over 50 million workers right now don't have access to any retirement plan at all,\" said David Certner, legislative counsel for AARP.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Small employers are the biggest segment lacking coverage, he said. That's because many small businesses lack the time and money to set such programs up, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new law, called the \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1865/text\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Secure Act\u003c/a>, aims to help with that, in part by allowing smaller employers to band together to share the administrative burden — making it cheaper and easier to offer retirement benefits. How many will do so and expand their retirement benefits is far from clear because the program is optional.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, Certner said, the law won't apply to many other workers who aren't classified as employees. Contractors or gig workers aren't eligible for those benefits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Secure Act also gives people more flexibility to save for longer periods of time and delay withdrawing funds. It allows employers to offer other investment options like annuities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fact that the measure passed with overwhelming bipartisan support last month is significant, said Alicia Munnell, director of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College. But she said the changes are modest. [aside tag='retirement' label='More Coverage']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She notes that the government has tried — and largely failed — to encourage more small businesses to offer retirement benefits through programs like the Treasury Department's now-expired \u003ca href=\"https://myra.gov/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">myRA \u003c/a>program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She expects it will be the same with this latest law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't really think they're really going to move the needle much at all,\" Munnell said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new law requires employers offering retirement benefits to include part-time workers who've been on the job at least three years. That could help about 4 million workers, Munnell said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much bigger changes to retirement law have been occurring at the state level, experts say. \u003ca href=\"https://www.aarp.org/ppi/state-retirement-plans/savings-plans/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ten states\u003c/a> — including Oregon, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11764846/half-of-private-sector-californians-have-no-retirement-funds-according-to-report\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">California\u003c/a> and Illinois — recently started requiring private employers to enroll their workers in individual retirement accounts if the employers don't offer their own benefits. Those state programs are expected to expand retirement savings to 15 million more people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Without a mandate, without somebody saying, 'Mr. Small Businessman, you have to do something for your employees,' I don't think we're going to see much change,\" Munnell said. That's why, she said, she would like to see such rules extend to all 50 states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2020 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=New+Law+Aims+To+Help+Americans+Without+Retirement+Plans.+Will+It+Work%3F&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Secure Act is intended to make it easier for small employers to offer retirement benefits. But some analysts say it doesn't go far enough because it's optional and doesn't apply to gig workers.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1578777262,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":457},"headData":{"title":"New Law Aims to Help Americans Without Retirement Plans. 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But a lot of people — about half the American workforce — don't get that from their employers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Over 50 million workers right now don't have access to any retirement plan at all,\" said David Certner, legislative counsel for AARP.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Small employers are the biggest segment lacking coverage, he said. That's because many small businesses lack the time and money to set such programs up, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new law, called the \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1865/text\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Secure Act\u003c/a>, aims to help with that, in part by allowing smaller employers to band together to share the administrative burden — making it cheaper and easier to offer retirement benefits. How many will do so and expand their retirement benefits is far from clear because the program is optional.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, Certner said, the law won't apply to many other workers who aren't classified as employees. Contractors or gig workers aren't eligible for those benefits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Secure Act also gives people more flexibility to save for longer periods of time and delay withdrawing funds. It allows employers to offer other investment options like annuities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fact that the measure passed with overwhelming bipartisan support last month is significant, said Alicia Munnell, director of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College. But she said the changes are modest. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"retirement","label":"More Coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She notes that the government has tried — and largely failed — to encourage more small businesses to offer retirement benefits through programs like the Treasury Department's now-expired \u003ca href=\"https://myra.gov/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">myRA \u003c/a>program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She expects it will be the same with this latest law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't really think they're really going to move the needle much at all,\" Munnell said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new law requires employers offering retirement benefits to include part-time workers who've been on the job at least three years. That could help about 4 million workers, Munnell said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much bigger changes to retirement law have been occurring at the state level, experts say. \u003ca href=\"https://www.aarp.org/ppi/state-retirement-plans/savings-plans/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ten states\u003c/a> — including Oregon, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11764846/half-of-private-sector-californians-have-no-retirement-funds-according-to-report\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">California\u003c/a> and Illinois — recently started requiring private employers to enroll their workers in individual retirement accounts if the employers don't offer their own benefits. Those state programs are expected to expand retirement savings to 15 million more people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Without a mandate, without somebody saying, 'Mr. Small Businessman, you have to do something for your employees,' I don't think we're going to see much change,\" Munnell said. That's why, she said, she would like to see such rules extend to all 50 states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2020 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=New+Law+Aims+To+Help+Americans+Without+Retirement+Plans.+Will+It+Work%3F&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11795655/new-law-aims-to-help-americans-without-retirement-plans-will-it-work","authors":["byline_news_11795655"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_2814","news_3735"],"featImg":"news_11795656","label":"source_news_11795655"},"news_11773127":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11773127","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11773127","score":null,"sort":[1568058843000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"why-older-uber-drivers-earn-less-than-younger-ones","title":"Why Older Uber Drivers Earn Less Than Younger Ones","publishDate":1568058843,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Dream | The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Older workers have been tapping into the gig economy in California. Some aren’t ready to retire. Others may face age discrimination when looking for other jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gig platforms can be fairly easy for many older workers to join. But research shows that on certain apps, they’re earning less than younger workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There could be a very substantial pay cut per hour, when moving from a career job to something like the gig economy,” said Rebecca Diamond, a Stanford University economist who has done research on platforms like Uber.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11772787,news_11771412,news_11770427\" label=\"Regulating the Gig Economy\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Big changes could be ahead for gig workers in California. This week, state lawmakers are preparing to vote on \u003ca href=\"https://legiscan.com/CA/bill/AB5/2019\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Assembly Bill 5,\u003c/a> a bill that would reclassify many independent contractors as employees, with the aim of providing greater protections to workers who currently don’t receive the benefits of more traditional employment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the lack of benefits, plugging into the gig economy has been an attractive option for some older job seekers, because the barriers to entry on many apps have been low.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keith Cooney, who turns 65 in October, is an Uber driver in South Lake Tahoe. He usually leaves the windows down when he drives, letting his passengers enjoy the crisp mountain breeze and the scent of pine trees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They love the fresh air,” Cooney said. “I say, 'Is that too much wind on you?' 'No, we love it.' So I say, 'OK!' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Driving for Uber gives Cooney a chance to meet riders from all over the country. He said a typical ride lasts about 10 to 15 minutes, long enough to strike up a conversation about where people are from.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I tell them I've been here about 20 years, I'm originally from New Orleans,” he said, his accent starting to come through. “They want to talk about the restaurants, the music, the food. So we carry on a conversation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cooney may be reaching an age when workers in previous eras would consider retirement. But he said he has no plans to stop driving anytime soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He previously worked as a concierge at a local timeshare, but he said his boss was pushy. So in 2016, he switched to Uber. It was easy to sign up, and he liked the idea of not having a boss at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I set my own hours,” Cooney said. “I work when I want to work. And so far it's been working for me. I've been able to pay my bills.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Cooney said Uber drivers in South Lake Tahoe have to deal with one major challenge: Demand is highly seasonal. Tourists swarm this resort town in the summer, and they come to hit the slopes in the winter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the offseasons, Cooney will have long dry spells when he hardly gets any riders. This past May, \"I was lucky to make $20 or $30 a day,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He has just entered another down spell. “After Labor Day, it will start slowing down and it will be slow until Thanksgiving,” Cooney said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11773131\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11773131\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/09/Tahoe-Uber-Car-e1568052171231.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Uber drivers in South Lake Tahoe see demand spike during tourist seasons, and plummet at other times of year. \u003ccite>(David Wagner/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Still, Cooney thinks the flexibility of driving for Uber makes it a pretty good job for older people. This part of California has a high percentage of seniors. El Dorado County’s median age of nearly 46 is the fourth highest in the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The gig economy can be a fallback for those struggling to find other employment, but gig jobs are not always lucrative for older workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Diamond, the Stanford economist, co-authored \u003ca href=\"https://web.stanford.edu/~diamondr/OldUberPP.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a recent study\u003c/a> that broke down earnings for Uber drivers by age. The researchers found that 60-year-old drivers earn nearly 10% less per hour than 30-year-old drivers on average.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not because Uber pays younger and older drivers differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Obviously, the Uber formula for pay is the same for all workers,” Diamond said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Rebecca Diamond, a Stanford University economist\"]'It could have a lot of beneficial job characteristics. But the pay may be very different than what the workers had been experiencing in their longer-term jobs.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A large part of that gap can be explained by where older drivers live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Older workers live in the suburbs more than younger workers do,” Diamond said. “If the suburbs pay less, they're going to sort of have to just accept that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Suburbs and rural areas typically do pay less, because there’s less demand from riders. Younger drivers are more concentrated in cities, where demand is higher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Timing is important too. Older drivers tend to avoid working late at night, when demand can peak with people hailing rides home from bars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Diamond said these pay disparities make sense, based on where and when older drivers tend to work. But the gap is still notable, because it’s the exact opposite of what happens in more traditional jobs, where there’s a norm that older employees earn more than younger workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Older drivers get no such premium on Uber.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It could have a lot of beneficial job characteristics,” Diamond said. “But the pay may be very different than what the workers had been experiencing in their longer-term jobs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Khymberleigh Levin, 58, said she was surprised to hear that younger drivers out-earn older ones on Uber.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think I drive just as much as a young driver does,\" said Levin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She drives part time in South Lake Tahoe, but said she focuses on times with high demand, often driving until 2 a.m. on the weekends. She doesn't feel like she's putting in less effort than younger drivers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Levin said it would be impractical to chase higher demand by driving all the way to a larger city, such as Sacramento or San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11719321,news_11660885,news_11508374\" label=\"Challenges for drivers\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Would it really pay?\" Levin asked. \"You're paying for your gas there, wear and tear on your car, and a hotel there because you can't drive back. So I haven't really thought of it. Also, to be honest, I feel a lot safer here than I would in a big city.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber declined to comment for this story. But in the past, the company has pitched itself to older workers as a great way to make extra money, stay socially engaged and control your own schedule.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It once \u003ca href=\"https://press.aarp.org/2015-07-30-Life-Reimagined-Announces-Collaboration-with-Uber-to-Offer-New-Income-Opportunities-to-Members\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">directly recruited older drivers\u003c/a>, offering a $35 incentive to new drivers who signed up through an AARP subsidiary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keith Cooney said he understands why older drivers like him can end up earning less.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I know that if I were to work from midnight to 3 in the morning, that's when people really make a lot of money,” Cooney said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He used to work that late when he first started driving. But now, he’s just not willing to put up with drunken passengers in the middle of the night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I've never had anybody throw up in my car,” he said. “They've come close, but they never have.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cooney said in a bigger city, he’d be able to get rides year-round. And he might earn more. But he’s not about to move out of South Lake Tahoe in order to find out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The California Dream series is a statewide media collaboration of CalMatters, KPBS, KPCC, KQED and Capital Public Radio with support from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the James Irvine Foundation.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11768052\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"219\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/CADreamBanner-1-800x219-160x44.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Older workers may be able to find new opportunities in the gig economy. But research shows that on certain platforms, they’re making less than younger workers. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1568214191,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":46,"wordCount":1307},"headData":{"title":"Why Older Uber Drivers Earn Less Than Younger Ones | KQED","description":"Older workers may be able to find new opportunities in the gig economy. But research shows that on certain platforms, they’re making less than younger workers. 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Some aren’t ready to retire. Others may face age discrimination when looking for other jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gig platforms can be fairly easy for many older workers to join. But research shows that on certain apps, they’re earning less than younger workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There could be a very substantial pay cut per hour, when moving from a career job to something like the gig economy,” said Rebecca Diamond, a Stanford University economist who has done research on platforms like Uber.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11772787,news_11771412,news_11770427","label":"Regulating the Gig Economy "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Big changes could be ahead for gig workers in California. This week, state lawmakers are preparing to vote on \u003ca href=\"https://legiscan.com/CA/bill/AB5/2019\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Assembly Bill 5,\u003c/a> a bill that would reclassify many independent contractors as employees, with the aim of providing greater protections to workers who currently don’t receive the benefits of more traditional employment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the lack of benefits, plugging into the gig economy has been an attractive option for some older job seekers, because the barriers to entry on many apps have been low.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keith Cooney, who turns 65 in October, is an Uber driver in South Lake Tahoe. He usually leaves the windows down when he drives, letting his passengers enjoy the crisp mountain breeze and the scent of pine trees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They love the fresh air,” Cooney said. “I say, 'Is that too much wind on you?' 'No, we love it.' So I say, 'OK!' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Driving for Uber gives Cooney a chance to meet riders from all over the country. He said a typical ride lasts about 10 to 15 minutes, long enough to strike up a conversation about where people are from.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I tell them I've been here about 20 years, I'm originally from New Orleans,” he said, his accent starting to come through. “They want to talk about the restaurants, the music, the food. So we carry on a conversation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cooney may be reaching an age when workers in previous eras would consider retirement. But he said he has no plans to stop driving anytime soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He previously worked as a concierge at a local timeshare, but he said his boss was pushy. So in 2016, he switched to Uber. It was easy to sign up, and he liked the idea of not having a boss at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I set my own hours,” Cooney said. “I work when I want to work. And so far it's been working for me. I've been able to pay my bills.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Cooney said Uber drivers in South Lake Tahoe have to deal with one major challenge: Demand is highly seasonal. Tourists swarm this resort town in the summer, and they come to hit the slopes in the winter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the offseasons, Cooney will have long dry spells when he hardly gets any riders. This past May, \"I was lucky to make $20 or $30 a day,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He has just entered another down spell. “After Labor Day, it will start slowing down and it will be slow until Thanksgiving,” Cooney said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11773131\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11773131\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/09/Tahoe-Uber-Car-e1568052171231.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Uber drivers in South Lake Tahoe see demand spike during tourist seasons, and plummet at other times of year. \u003ccite>(David Wagner/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Still, Cooney thinks the flexibility of driving for Uber makes it a pretty good job for older people. This part of California has a high percentage of seniors. El Dorado County’s median age of nearly 46 is the fourth highest in the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The gig economy can be a fallback for those struggling to find other employment, but gig jobs are not always lucrative for older workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Diamond, the Stanford economist, co-authored \u003ca href=\"https://web.stanford.edu/~diamondr/OldUberPP.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a recent study\u003c/a> that broke down earnings for Uber drivers by age. The researchers found that 60-year-old drivers earn nearly 10% less per hour than 30-year-old drivers on average.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not because Uber pays younger and older drivers differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Obviously, the Uber formula for pay is the same for all workers,” Diamond said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'It could have a lot of beneficial job characteristics. But the pay may be very different than what the workers had been experiencing in their longer-term jobs.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Rebecca Diamond, a Stanford University economist","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A large part of that gap can be explained by where older drivers live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Older workers live in the suburbs more than younger workers do,” Diamond said. “If the suburbs pay less, they're going to sort of have to just accept that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Suburbs and rural areas typically do pay less, because there’s less demand from riders. Younger drivers are more concentrated in cities, where demand is higher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Timing is important too. Older drivers tend to avoid working late at night, when demand can peak with people hailing rides home from bars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Diamond said these pay disparities make sense, based on where and when older drivers tend to work. But the gap is still notable, because it’s the exact opposite of what happens in more traditional jobs, where there’s a norm that older employees earn more than younger workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Older drivers get no such premium on Uber.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It could have a lot of beneficial job characteristics,” Diamond said. “But the pay may be very different than what the workers had been experiencing in their longer-term jobs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Khymberleigh Levin, 58, said she was surprised to hear that younger drivers out-earn older ones on Uber.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think I drive just as much as a young driver does,\" said Levin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She drives part time in South Lake Tahoe, but said she focuses on times with high demand, often driving until 2 a.m. on the weekends. She doesn't feel like she's putting in less effort than younger drivers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Levin said it would be impractical to chase higher demand by driving all the way to a larger city, such as Sacramento or San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11719321,news_11660885,news_11508374","label":"Challenges for drivers "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Would it really pay?\" Levin asked. \"You're paying for your gas there, wear and tear on your car, and a hotel there because you can't drive back. So I haven't really thought of it. Also, to be honest, I feel a lot safer here than I would in a big city.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber declined to comment for this story. But in the past, the company has pitched itself to older workers as a great way to make extra money, stay socially engaged and control your own schedule.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It once \u003ca href=\"https://press.aarp.org/2015-07-30-Life-Reimagined-Announces-Collaboration-with-Uber-to-Offer-New-Income-Opportunities-to-Members\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">directly recruited older drivers\u003c/a>, offering a $35 incentive to new drivers who signed up through an AARP subsidiary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keith Cooney said he understands why older drivers like him can end up earning less.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I know that if I were to work from midnight to 3 in the morning, that's when people really make a lot of money,” Cooney said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He used to work that late when he first started driving. But now, he’s just not willing to put up with drunken passengers in the middle of the night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I've never had anybody throw up in my car,” he said. “They've come close, but they never have.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cooney said in a bigger city, he’d be able to get rides year-round. And he might earn more. But he’s not about to move out of South Lake Tahoe in order to find out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The California Dream series is a statewide media collaboration of CalMatters, KPBS, KPCC, KQED and Capital Public Radio with support from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the James Irvine Foundation.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11768052\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"219\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/CADreamBanner-1-800x219-160x44.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11773127/why-older-uber-drivers-earn-less-than-younger-ones","authors":["byline_news_11773127"],"programs":["news_72"],"series":["news_21879"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8","news_13","news_248"],"tags":["news_26117","news_26512","news_2814","news_21840","news_24822","news_17994","news_19904","news_23667","news_25259","news_26543","news_4523"],"affiliates":["news_7055"],"featImg":"news_11773130","label":"source_news_11773127"},"news_11770003":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11770003","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11770003","score":null,"sort":[1567208704000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"finding-love-again-after-alzheimers-takes-a-spouse-2","title":"Finding Love Again After Alzheimer's Takes a Spouse","publishDate":1567208704,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>[dropcap]J[/dropcap]on Lucas sits down on a shaded bench and pulls a Ziploc bag out of his pocket. “I generally bring some treats. She likes M&Ms still,” he says. Jon is tall with an athletic frame that suggests he keeps pretty active. The M&Ms are for his wife, Sharon, who sits next to him. Sharon wears a black cardigan and slacks with sneakers. Her shoulders are slouched, and her expression is mostly blank.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sharon, do you want a candy? Look what I brought you,\" he tells her, offering his hand. Sharon runs her fingers searchingly over his palm, like she’s reading braille and the M&Ms are the raised letters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11759132\" label=\"Related coverage\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sharon isn’t blind. In her mid-60s, like Jon, she’s been living for almost a decade with Alzheimer’s disease. Six years ago, Jon decided he could no longer be her sole caregiver, and he placed her in the facility where we’re sitting. It’s in Los Gatos, in Silicon Valley, about a half-hour from Fremont, where he lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the Alzheimer’s Association, Jon is one of \u003ca href=\"https://www.alz.org/media/Documents/california-alzheimers-facts-figures-2018.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">more than 1.6 million\u003c/a> Californians caring for a loved one with Alzheimer’s disease. A \u003ca href=\"https://discovery.cdph.ca.gov/fusion/communityburden/_w_fab2c486b487e535dc456f735a3804864596f43b642170ad/CA_Health_Views.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">report\u003c/a> published earlier this year by the California Department of Health says more people in our state die from Alzheimer’s than anything else, except heart disease. Much of the care Alzheimer’s patients need is considered custodial, so it’s not covered by most insurance — and funding for patients like Sharon with early-onset Alzheimer’s is even more limited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By 2030, California’s senior population is \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/planning-for-californias-growing-senior-population/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">projected to grow by 4 million people\u003c/a>, and lawmakers are recognizing the urgency of preparing for this shift. In June, Gov. Gavin Newsom signed an executive order to create a \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2019/06/10/governor-gavin-newsom-calls-for-creation-of-a-master-plan-for-aging/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Master Plan for Aging\u003c/a> and, within that, a \u003ca href=\"https://www.chhs.ca.gov/home/committees/governors-task-force-on-alzheimers/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Task Force on Alzheimer’s Prevention and Preparedness,\u003c/a> helmed by former California first lady Maria Shriver.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>High School Sweethearts\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Jon tries to visit Sharon a few times a week. He doesn’t bring it up in our interview, but it’s easy to see how he could feel conflicted about whether the benefits she receives from his being there outweigh the emotional strain the visits clearly inflict on him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"forum_2010101862635\" label=\"Related coverage\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the time she was diagnosed almost 10 years ago, he says, her memory had diminished so much that she couldn’t comprehend her illness. Now, on top of the memory loss, she’s no longer verbal — she stopped talking about a year and a half ago, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jon and Sharon have been together since she asked him to a Sadie Hawkins dance when she was 16. “She was young and beautiful with long copper-red hair. Very funny person, very lively. She continued with that personality all throughout her life until the disease hit her,” Jon says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sharon never had a great sense of direction, but in her mid-50s she started struggling more noticeably with finding her way to places, and becoming more forgetful. Eventually, one of their two daughters insisted he take her in for cognitive tests. “Sharon failed … miserably. And watching that was one of the hardest moments ever,” Jon remembers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11770620\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11770620\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-800x1067.jpg\" alt=\"Sharon and Jon Lucas in the years prior to Sharon's Alzheimer's diagnosis.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-900x1200.jpg 900w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-1920x2560.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-1122x1496.jpg 1122w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-840x1120.jpg 840w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-687x916.jpg 687w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-414x552.jpg 414w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-354x472.jpg 354w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sharon and Jon Lucas in the years prior to her Alzheimer's diagnosis. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jon Lucas)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Looking back, Jon says he realizes Sharon was conscious of the shift she was experiencing. When he moved her from their home to her facility, he found stacks of Post-it notes she’d written to remind herself how to do simple tasks on the computer, and self-help books with tabs on the pages about memory improvement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In less than a year from those first cognitive tests, Sharon was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimer’s. Initially, Jon and his daughters, who were out of the house at that point, decided not to tell Sharon about the diagnosis, because they thought she wouldn’t be able to grasp what it meant and, on the off-chance that she would, it would just be upsetting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“After about … two or three months of that, … it was gut-wrenching to us to try to keep it a secret and it didn't seem fair to her,\" Jon recalls. \"My daughters came home and we sat her down on the couch and ... we had that discussion with her. That she had Alzheimer's disease and it was a fatal disease and she had about eight or 10 years on average to live. We all had a big cry. Five minutes later, sure enough, she had forgotten it. And we moved on. But we felt better that we'd had the conversation, at least,” Jon said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Life as a Full-Time Caregiver\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Two weeks after Sharon’s diagnosis, Jon left his senior role at an electronics company and became her full-time caregiver. It was a trying few years as he took on round-the-clock duties on top of all the household tasks they used to shoulder together. Sharon’s disease progressed to the extent that Jon was able to sleep only if she was in the small area of the house he’d cordoned off where she could wander safely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Jon Lucas\"]'It was the hardest decision I've ever made. And it was the most amazing feeling coming out of here. All the emotions that hit: Freedom. Guilt. Sadness. Joy.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their circle of friends dwindled. Jon started to recognize signs of depression in himself, and members of his Alzheimer’s support group encouraged him to find a care facility for Sharon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6292823/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">recent study\u003c/a> shows that 18% of Alzheimer’s and dementia caregivers die before those receiving their care, and the toll that this process can take is a big focus of groups like the Alzheimer’s Association. Jon knew that his own health was in jeopardy, and he ultimately decided to move Sharon to Cedar Creek, the facility where she lives today, and where we’ve met to talk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was the hardest decision I've ever made. And it was the most amazing feeling coming out of here. All the emotions that hit: Freedom. Guilt. Sadness. Joy. All of it coming down all at once. I just sat out in that parking lot for about 15 minutes and cried. And then I went home and started living my life again,” Jon says, his voice breaking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Finding a New Path through Advocacy\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With Sharon at Cedar Creek, Jon suddenly felt retired for the first time since he left his job. After a short spell enjoying his new flexibility and easing back into a regular social life, he realized he wanted to channel his experience with Alzheimer’s into productive use, and he decided to become an advocate for the Alzheimer’s Association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At his first advocacy forum in Washington, D.C., he met Patt Martin. Patt’s husband, Bill, had succumbed to a form of dementia called primary progressive aphasia (PPA) after being diagnosed in his early 50s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11770619\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11770619\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-800x603.jpg\" alt=\"Patt Martin, left, with her husband, Bill, before his dementia diagnosis.\" width=\"800\" height=\"603\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-800x603.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-160x121.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-1020x768.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-1200x904.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Patt Martin, left, with her husband, Bill, before his dementia diagnosis. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Patt Martin)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Soon after Jon placed Sharon at the care facility, Sharon’s mother gave him her blessing to date again. He was hesitant at first, and not sure how to ease back in when dating sites didn’t feel like the right fit for him. Patt had felt the same way. So it was a pleasant surprise to both of them when they each sensed a spark at the forum. When they both got back to California, they set up a coffee date through Facebook.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We spent three hours talking to each other,\" Jon recalls. \"The crowd faded away. We forgot we were even sitting in a coffee house … it was a magical three hours. And then after that we just started dating more and we fell in love. And that’s been three years now.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A Foot in Two Worlds\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Jon and Patt’s shared experiences as caregivers have bonded them from the start. They have both weathered seeing their spouses become strangers to them. Since Patt’s experience caring for her husband is behind her, she feels uniquely attuned to what Jon is going through, both in the day-to-day, and as he anticipates Sharon’s passing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Patt Martin\"]'I mean, he has a foot in two different worlds right now, and I can be somebody that he can … say anything to ... I will understand it, wherever his feelings are.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Jon is still in the midst of the journey with Sharon, and I understand that that journey is very difficult. I mean, he has a foot in two different worlds right now, and I can be somebody that he can … say anything to ... I will understand it, wherever his feelings are,” Patt says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to the shared emotional strain, Jon and Patt have also both spent considerable chunks of savings on their spouses’ care — in Jon's case, $550,000 just in the last six years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the time Patt’s husband Bill passed away, they had paid more than $300,000 out of pocket for his care. “We were lucky we had the money to be able to do that,\" she says. \"Many people don't have those kind of means. And I was totally unaware — I had no idea … that there wasn't any kind of support for this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jon and Patt have moved in together now, partly out of necessity for Jon because, in addition to dipping into his retirement and starting to take Social Security early to help pay for Sharon's facility, he has moved out of the house they shared so he can have rental income to contribute to those costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"futureofyou_444207\" label=\"Related coverage\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because much of the care for those with dementia-related illnesses is custodial — meaning just guiding the person through personal hygiene, meals and the other ins and outs of their day — most insurance won’t cover it. For people like Jon and Patt with too much cash in the bank to qualify for long-term coverage through Medi-Cal, long-term care insurance can be an option. But it’s often expensive, and the Alzheimer’s Association and an insurance agent confirmed that once a patient is diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, they are \u003ca href=\"https://www.alz.org/help-support/caregiving/financial-legal-planning/insurance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">no longer eligible\u003c/a> to apply.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The requirements for long-term care coverage through a need-based program like Medi-Cal are \u003ca href=\"https://www.medicaidplanningassistance.org/medicaid-long-term-care-faq/\">complicated\u003c/a>. Assets, like a primary home and car, and certain kinds of trust accounts, don't count against a family's or an individual's eligibility. However, each individual may have no more than $2,000 in what are termed \"countable assets\" to qualify. Countable assets include bank accounts, unapproved trust accounts and secondary vehicles.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Bucket Lists and Family Celebrations\u003c/h2>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11770626\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11770626\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Jon Lucas (left) and Patt Martin discuss Alzheimer's funding needs with Congressman Ro Khanna. \" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-536x402.jpg 536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jon Lucas (left) and Patt Martin discuss Alzheimer's funding needs with congressman Ro Khanna. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Patt Martin)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With the untraditional relationship dynamics they’re balancing, Jon and Patt say they’re lucky that their children — they both have two daughters — have accepted the other into their family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was so excited about meeting [Patt] that ... I wanted to get on the top of the mountain and scream it out to the world, so I was really happy to tell the kids that I had met someone. I had some reservation about how they were gonna take it,” Jon says. The families have found a balance, but Jon says he’s had friends in similar positions whose children have been much more resistant to their new partners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"futureofyou_436409\" label=\"Related coverage\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By their second date, Jon and Patt were comparing bucket lists, and now they’re ticking them off together. “We talk about the fact that we really are living life for four people because Bill and Sharon, they got robbed,” Patt says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sharon entered hospice in August. When the time comes, Jon says, he wants her memorial to feel uplifting for those who love her. “People have gone through this loss and grief process for so long with Sharon that I think it's going to be a big relief to everyone once ... she’s not suffering anymore,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Someday, Jon and Patt hope to marry, but Patt is conscientious about the way that she and Jon comport themselves as a couple to ensure they are respectful to Sharon. In the meantime, they’ll continue to advocate in Congress, where they’ve met with lawmakers, including congressman Ro Khanna, on behalf of the Alzheimer’s Association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, the two are focused on more funding for Alzheimer’s research, stronger infrastructures for early detection, and more support for caregivers — especially caregivers of loved ones with early-onset Alzheimer’s. In October, they’ll be side-by-side at the \u003ca href=\"https://act.alz.org/site/TR/Walk2019/CA-NorthernCaliforniaandNorthernNevada?pg=entry&fr_id=12096&gclid=CjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA867bykJQhj8hBp6eGxDBDSN6UMositLjbSAT8XTOawnPDYBrbi7FLotaXBoCcCMQAvD_BwE\">Silicon Valley Walk to End Alzheimer’s\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In California, 1 million people are caregivers for Alzheimer’s patients. Two of those caregivers fell in love with each other after their spouses were diagnosed, and have become advocates for Alzheimer's research.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1624908779,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":41,"wordCount":2274},"headData":{"title":"Finding Love Again After Alzheimer's Takes a Spouse | KQED","description":"In California, 1 million people are caregivers for Alzheimer’s patients. Two of those caregivers fell in love with each other after their spouses were diagnosed, and have become advocates for Alzheimer's research.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Finding Love Again After Alzheimer's Takes a Spouse","datePublished":"2019-08-30T23:45:04.000Z","dateModified":"2021-06-28T19:32:59.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11770003 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11770003","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/08/30/finding-love-again-after-alzheimers-takes-a-spouse-2/","disqusTitle":"Finding Love Again After Alzheimer's Takes a Spouse","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2019/08/LoveAfterAlzheimersTakesASpouse.mp3","WpOldSlug":"finding-love-again-after-alzheimers-takes-a-spouse","audioTrackLength":613,"path":"/news/11770003/finding-love-again-after-alzheimers-takes-a-spouse-2","audioDuration":612000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">J\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>on Lucas sits down on a shaded bench and pulls a Ziploc bag out of his pocket. “I generally bring some treats. She likes M&Ms still,” he says. Jon is tall with an athletic frame that suggests he keeps pretty active. The M&Ms are for his wife, Sharon, who sits next to him. Sharon wears a black cardigan and slacks with sneakers. Her shoulders are slouched, and her expression is mostly blank.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sharon, do you want a candy? Look what I brought you,\" he tells her, offering his hand. Sharon runs her fingers searchingly over his palm, like she’s reading braille and the M&Ms are the raised letters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11759132","label":"Related coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sharon isn’t blind. In her mid-60s, like Jon, she’s been living for almost a decade with Alzheimer’s disease. Six years ago, Jon decided he could no longer be her sole caregiver, and he placed her in the facility where we’re sitting. It’s in Los Gatos, in Silicon Valley, about a half-hour from Fremont, where he lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the Alzheimer’s Association, Jon is one of \u003ca href=\"https://www.alz.org/media/Documents/california-alzheimers-facts-figures-2018.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">more than 1.6 million\u003c/a> Californians caring for a loved one with Alzheimer’s disease. A \u003ca href=\"https://discovery.cdph.ca.gov/fusion/communityburden/_w_fab2c486b487e535dc456f735a3804864596f43b642170ad/CA_Health_Views.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">report\u003c/a> published earlier this year by the California Department of Health says more people in our state die from Alzheimer’s than anything else, except heart disease. Much of the care Alzheimer’s patients need is considered custodial, so it’s not covered by most insurance — and funding for patients like Sharon with early-onset Alzheimer’s is even more limited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By 2030, California’s senior population is \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/planning-for-californias-growing-senior-population/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">projected to grow by 4 million people\u003c/a>, and lawmakers are recognizing the urgency of preparing for this shift. In June, Gov. Gavin Newsom signed an executive order to create a \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2019/06/10/governor-gavin-newsom-calls-for-creation-of-a-master-plan-for-aging/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Master Plan for Aging\u003c/a> and, within that, a \u003ca href=\"https://www.chhs.ca.gov/home/committees/governors-task-force-on-alzheimers/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Task Force on Alzheimer’s Prevention and Preparedness,\u003c/a> helmed by former California first lady Maria Shriver.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>High School Sweethearts\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Jon tries to visit Sharon a few times a week. He doesn’t bring it up in our interview, but it’s easy to see how he could feel conflicted about whether the benefits she receives from his being there outweigh the emotional strain the visits clearly inflict on him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"forum_2010101862635","label":"Related coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the time she was diagnosed almost 10 years ago, he says, her memory had diminished so much that she couldn’t comprehend her illness. Now, on top of the memory loss, she’s no longer verbal — she stopped talking about a year and a half ago, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jon and Sharon have been together since she asked him to a Sadie Hawkins dance when she was 16. “She was young and beautiful with long copper-red hair. Very funny person, very lively. She continued with that personality all throughout her life until the disease hit her,” Jon says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sharon never had a great sense of direction, but in her mid-50s she started struggling more noticeably with finding her way to places, and becoming more forgetful. Eventually, one of their two daughters insisted he take her in for cognitive tests. “Sharon failed … miserably. And watching that was one of the hardest moments ever,” Jon remembers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11770620\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11770620\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-800x1067.jpg\" alt=\"Sharon and Jon Lucas in the years prior to Sharon's Alzheimer's diagnosis.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-900x1200.jpg 900w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-1920x2560.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-1122x1496.jpg 1122w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-840x1120.jpg 840w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-687x916.jpg 687w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-414x552.jpg 414w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut-354x472.jpg 354w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38677_Jon-Sharon1-qut.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sharon and Jon Lucas in the years prior to her Alzheimer's diagnosis. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jon Lucas)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Looking back, Jon says he realizes Sharon was conscious of the shift she was experiencing. When he moved her from their home to her facility, he found stacks of Post-it notes she’d written to remind herself how to do simple tasks on the computer, and self-help books with tabs on the pages about memory improvement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In less than a year from those first cognitive tests, Sharon was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimer’s. Initially, Jon and his daughters, who were out of the house at that point, decided not to tell Sharon about the diagnosis, because they thought she wouldn’t be able to grasp what it meant and, on the off-chance that she would, it would just be upsetting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“After about … two or three months of that, … it was gut-wrenching to us to try to keep it a secret and it didn't seem fair to her,\" Jon recalls. \"My daughters came home and we sat her down on the couch and ... we had that discussion with her. That she had Alzheimer's disease and it was a fatal disease and she had about eight or 10 years on average to live. We all had a big cry. Five minutes later, sure enough, she had forgotten it. And we moved on. But we felt better that we'd had the conversation, at least,” Jon said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Life as a Full-Time Caregiver\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Two weeks after Sharon’s diagnosis, Jon left his senior role at an electronics company and became her full-time caregiver. It was a trying few years as he took on round-the-clock duties on top of all the household tasks they used to shoulder together. Sharon’s disease progressed to the extent that Jon was able to sleep only if she was in the small area of the house he’d cordoned off where she could wander safely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'It was the hardest decision I've ever made. And it was the most amazing feeling coming out of here. All the emotions that hit: Freedom. Guilt. Sadness. Joy.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Jon Lucas","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their circle of friends dwindled. Jon started to recognize signs of depression in himself, and members of his Alzheimer’s support group encouraged him to find a care facility for Sharon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6292823/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">recent study\u003c/a> shows that 18% of Alzheimer’s and dementia caregivers die before those receiving their care, and the toll that this process can take is a big focus of groups like the Alzheimer’s Association. Jon knew that his own health was in jeopardy, and he ultimately decided to move Sharon to Cedar Creek, the facility where she lives today, and where we’ve met to talk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was the hardest decision I've ever made. And it was the most amazing feeling coming out of here. All the emotions that hit: Freedom. Guilt. Sadness. Joy. All of it coming down all at once. I just sat out in that parking lot for about 15 minutes and cried. And then I went home and started living my life again,” Jon says, his voice breaking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Finding a New Path through Advocacy\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With Sharon at Cedar Creek, Jon suddenly felt retired for the first time since he left his job. After a short spell enjoying his new flexibility and easing back into a regular social life, he realized he wanted to channel his experience with Alzheimer’s into productive use, and he decided to become an advocate for the Alzheimer’s Association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At his first advocacy forum in Washington, D.C., he met Patt Martin. Patt’s husband, Bill, had succumbed to a form of dementia called primary progressive aphasia (PPA) after being diagnosed in his early 50s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11770619\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11770619\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-800x603.jpg\" alt=\"Patt Martin, left, with her husband, Bill, before his dementia diagnosis.\" width=\"800\" height=\"603\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-800x603.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-160x121.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-1020x768.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut-1200x904.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38676_Patt-Bill-Martin-qut.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Patt Martin, left, with her husband, Bill, before his dementia diagnosis. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Patt Martin)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Soon after Jon placed Sharon at the care facility, Sharon’s mother gave him her blessing to date again. He was hesitant at first, and not sure how to ease back in when dating sites didn’t feel like the right fit for him. Patt had felt the same way. So it was a pleasant surprise to both of them when they each sensed a spark at the forum. When they both got back to California, they set up a coffee date through Facebook.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We spent three hours talking to each other,\" Jon recalls. \"The crowd faded away. We forgot we were even sitting in a coffee house … it was a magical three hours. And then after that we just started dating more and we fell in love. And that’s been three years now.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A Foot in Two Worlds\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Jon and Patt’s shared experiences as caregivers have bonded them from the start. They have both weathered seeing their spouses become strangers to them. Since Patt’s experience caring for her husband is behind her, she feels uniquely attuned to what Jon is going through, both in the day-to-day, and as he anticipates Sharon’s passing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'I mean, he has a foot in two different worlds right now, and I can be somebody that he can … say anything to ... I will understand it, wherever his feelings are.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Patt Martin","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Jon is still in the midst of the journey with Sharon, and I understand that that journey is very difficult. I mean, he has a foot in two different worlds right now, and I can be somebody that he can … say anything to ... I will understand it, wherever his feelings are,” Patt says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to the shared emotional strain, Jon and Patt have also both spent considerable chunks of savings on their spouses’ care — in Jon's case, $550,000 just in the last six years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the time Patt’s husband Bill passed away, they had paid more than $300,000 out of pocket for his care. “We were lucky we had the money to be able to do that,\" she says. \"Many people don't have those kind of means. And I was totally unaware — I had no idea … that there wasn't any kind of support for this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jon and Patt have moved in together now, partly out of necessity for Jon because, in addition to dipping into his retirement and starting to take Social Security early to help pay for Sharon's facility, he has moved out of the house they shared so he can have rental income to contribute to those costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"futureofyou_444207","label":"Related coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because much of the care for those with dementia-related illnesses is custodial — meaning just guiding the person through personal hygiene, meals and the other ins and outs of their day — most insurance won’t cover it. For people like Jon and Patt with too much cash in the bank to qualify for long-term coverage through Medi-Cal, long-term care insurance can be an option. But it’s often expensive, and the Alzheimer’s Association and an insurance agent confirmed that once a patient is diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, they are \u003ca href=\"https://www.alz.org/help-support/caregiving/financial-legal-planning/insurance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">no longer eligible\u003c/a> to apply.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The requirements for long-term care coverage through a need-based program like Medi-Cal are \u003ca href=\"https://www.medicaidplanningassistance.org/medicaid-long-term-care-faq/\">complicated\u003c/a>. Assets, like a primary home and car, and certain kinds of trust accounts, don't count against a family's or an individual's eligibility. However, each individual may have no more than $2,000 in what are termed \"countable assets\" to qualify. Countable assets include bank accounts, unapproved trust accounts and secondary vehicles.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Bucket Lists and Family Celebrations\u003c/h2>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11770626\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11770626\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Jon Lucas (left) and Patt Martin discuss Alzheimer's funding needs with Congressman Ro Khanna. \" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut-536x402.jpg 536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/RS38672_Jon-Patt-with-Ro-Khanna2-qut.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jon Lucas (left) and Patt Martin discuss Alzheimer's funding needs with congressman Ro Khanna. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Patt Martin)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With the untraditional relationship dynamics they’re balancing, Jon and Patt say they’re lucky that their children — they both have two daughters — have accepted the other into their family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was so excited about meeting [Patt] that ... I wanted to get on the top of the mountain and scream it out to the world, so I was really happy to tell the kids that I had met someone. I had some reservation about how they were gonna take it,” Jon says. The families have found a balance, but Jon says he’s had friends in similar positions whose children have been much more resistant to their new partners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"futureofyou_436409","label":"Related coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By their second date, Jon and Patt were comparing bucket lists, and now they’re ticking them off together. “We talk about the fact that we really are living life for four people because Bill and Sharon, they got robbed,” Patt says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sharon entered hospice in August. When the time comes, Jon says, he wants her memorial to feel uplifting for those who love her. “People have gone through this loss and grief process for so long with Sharon that I think it's going to be a big relief to everyone once ... she’s not suffering anymore,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Someday, Jon and Patt hope to marry, but Patt is conscientious about the way that she and Jon comport themselves as a couple to ensure they are respectful to Sharon. In the meantime, they’ll continue to advocate in Congress, where they’ve met with lawmakers, including congressman Ro Khanna, on behalf of the Alzheimer’s Association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, the two are focused on more funding for Alzheimer’s research, stronger infrastructures for early detection, and more support for caregivers — especially caregivers of loved ones with early-onset Alzheimer’s. In October, they’ll be side-by-side at the \u003ca href=\"https://act.alz.org/site/TR/Walk2019/CA-NorthernCaliforniaandNorthernNevada?pg=entry&fr_id=12096&gclid=CjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA867bykJQhj8hBp6eGxDBDSN6UMositLjbSAT8XTOawnPDYBrbi7FLotaXBoCcCMQAvD_BwE\">Silicon Valley Walk to End Alzheimer’s\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11770003/finding-love-again-after-alzheimers-takes-a-spouse-2","authors":["11583"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_457","news_8"],"tags":["news_2814","news_21407","news_17736","news_21406","news_2109","news_2081","news_17041"],"featImg":"news_11771435","label":"news_72"},"news_11764846":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11764846","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11764846","score":null,"sort":[1564687848000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"half-of-private-sector-californians-have-no-retirement-funds-according-to-report","title":"Half of Private Sector Californians Have No Retirement Funds, Report Says","publishDate":1564687848,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>A new \u003ca href=\"http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/pdf/2019/Retirement-in-California.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">report\u003c/a> from the UC Berkeley Labor Center finds that California workers are even less prepared for retirement than previously thought.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the report, 61% of California private sector workers don't have access to an employer-sponsored retirement plan — meaning they would have to fund their retirement entirely on their own. And nearly half have no retirement assets at all, either through an employer or from their own individual accounts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report, which analyzed data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey and its 2014 Survey on Income and Program Participation, found these numbers are particularly bad for Latino workers, who are \"twice as likely as white workers not to own a retirement savings account or participate in a pension.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11764866\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11764866\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-800x547.png\" alt=\"A majority of California private-sector workers do not have access to a retirement plan.\" width=\"800\" height=\"547\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-800x547.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-160x109.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-1020x698.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-1200x821.png 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM.png 1640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A majority of California private sector workers do not have access to a retirement plan. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the U.C. Berkeley Labor Center)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"We've known for a while now that California is much worse off than even the national average,\" said Nari Rhee, director of the Retirement Security Program at UC Berkeley and author of the report. \"But even knowing that, it was pretty shocking to discover that half of California private sector workers basically have no retirement assets to their name. Whether it's from a former employer or their own individual pension accounts. They just have nothing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Retirement funds — according to the report — have traditionally relied on a \"three-legged stool\" approach: Social Security, employer-funded pension programs and private savings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But with Social Security funds unlikely to cover the bills, and as more companies move over to \u003cem>employee\u003c/em>-funded 401(k) plans in lieu of pensions, many people are forced to rely more on their private savings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the report points out that while families do accumulate assets over time, like home equity, their personal net worth is generally not enough to cover the level of income needed after retirement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some, especially low-income Californians, contributing to any kind of retirement program — employer-provided or not — can be difficult financially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We also have to recognize that stagnating and low wages in the state and nationally does make it difficult for people to save for retirement — plus the high housing costs in California,\" said Ken Jacobs, chair of the UC Berkeley Labor Center. \"So while it's important that individuals save, we also as a society need to take steps to make it possible for them to do so.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even when workers have employer-provided retirement plans and are able to contribute to them, it can be difficult to determine how to do so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For instance, if you have a completely voluntary plan where you have to go to your employer or to the plan carrier and say, 'I want to set up an account,' for low-wage workers, more than half never get around to taking that step,\" said Rhee. \"The investment menus are very confusing and intimidating, so there are a series of behavioral obstacles.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To help address these obstacles, California has started its own retirement program. On July 1, it rolled out \u003ca href=\"https://www.treasurer.ca.gov/scib/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CalSavers\u003c/a>. Any employer with at least five employees who doesn't already offer a retirement plan is required to either start one or provide employees with access to CalSavers. Workers would then be automatically enrolled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it's not a moment too soon. As California's population continues to age, there has been a marked \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Aging-onto-the-street-Nearly-half-of-older-13668900.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">increase in the population\u003c/a> of \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Aging-onto-the-street-Nearly-half-of-older-13668900.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">homeless seniors \u003c/a>with no safety net.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We know we have challenging demographics of aging in California. So, we're not only going to see more seniors — that population is going to roughly double over the next 15 years — but we're also going to see a more traditionally vulnerable senior population in terms of demographics,\" said Rhee. \"So, more senior women, more seniors of color. And what we're adding to that picture is that each wave of retirees is going to be retiring with less resources than the last.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A UC Berkeley analysis finds that many California workers have no retirement assets and are not prepared. Now the state is stepping in with a program of its own. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1564774119,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":16,"wordCount":687},"headData":{"title":"Half of Private Sector Californians Have No Retirement Funds, Report Says | KQED","description":"A UC Berkeley analysis finds that many California workers have no retirement assets and are not prepared. Now the state is stepping in with a program of its own. 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And nearly half have no retirement assets at all, either through an employer or from their own individual accounts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report, which analyzed data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey and its 2014 Survey on Income and Program Participation, found these numbers are particularly bad for Latino workers, who are \"twice as likely as white workers not to own a retirement savings account or participate in a pension.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11764866\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11764866\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-800x547.png\" alt=\"A majority of California private-sector workers do not have access to a retirement plan.\" width=\"800\" height=\"547\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-800x547.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-160x109.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-1020x698.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM-1200x821.png 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-01-at-12.08.25-AM.png 1640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A majority of California private sector workers do not have access to a retirement plan. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the U.C. Berkeley Labor Center)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"We've known for a while now that California is much worse off than even the national average,\" said Nari Rhee, director of the Retirement Security Program at UC Berkeley and author of the report. \"But even knowing that, it was pretty shocking to discover that half of California private sector workers basically have no retirement assets to their name. Whether it's from a former employer or their own individual pension accounts. They just have nothing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Retirement funds — according to the report — have traditionally relied on a \"three-legged stool\" approach: Social Security, employer-funded pension programs and private savings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But with Social Security funds unlikely to cover the bills, and as more companies move over to \u003cem>employee\u003c/em>-funded 401(k) plans in lieu of pensions, many people are forced to rely more on their private savings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the report points out that while families do accumulate assets over time, like home equity, their personal net worth is generally not enough to cover the level of income needed after retirement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some, especially low-income Californians, contributing to any kind of retirement program — employer-provided or not — can be difficult financially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We also have to recognize that stagnating and low wages in the state and nationally does make it difficult for people to save for retirement — plus the high housing costs in California,\" said Ken Jacobs, chair of the UC Berkeley Labor Center. \"So while it's important that individuals save, we also as a society need to take steps to make it possible for them to do so.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even when workers have employer-provided retirement plans and are able to contribute to them, it can be difficult to determine how to do so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For instance, if you have a completely voluntary plan where you have to go to your employer or to the plan carrier and say, 'I want to set up an account,' for low-wage workers, more than half never get around to taking that step,\" said Rhee. \"The investment menus are very confusing and intimidating, so there are a series of behavioral obstacles.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To help address these obstacles, California has started its own retirement program. On July 1, it rolled out \u003ca href=\"https://www.treasurer.ca.gov/scib/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CalSavers\u003c/a>. Any employer with at least five employees who doesn't already offer a retirement plan is required to either start one or provide employees with access to CalSavers. Workers would then be automatically enrolled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it's not a moment too soon. As California's population continues to age, there has been a marked \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Aging-onto-the-street-Nearly-half-of-older-13668900.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">increase in the population\u003c/a> of \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Aging-onto-the-street-Nearly-half-of-older-13668900.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">homeless seniors \u003c/a>with no safety net.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We know we have challenging demographics of aging in California. So, we're not only going to see more seniors — that population is going to roughly double over the next 15 years — but we're also going to see a more traditionally vulnerable senior population in terms of demographics,\" said Rhee. \"So, more senior women, more seniors of color. And what we're adding to that picture is that each wave of retirees is going to be retiring with less resources than the last.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11764846/half-of-private-sector-californians-have-no-retirement-funds-according-to-report","authors":["11526"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8"],"tags":["news_2814","news_26334","news_18545","news_1775","news_3735"],"featImg":"news_11764867","label":"news_72"},"news_11731072":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11731072","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11731072","score":null,"sort":[1551916467000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"more-retirees-find-themselves-taking-care-of-mom-and-dad","title":"More Retirees Find Themselves Taking Care of Mom and Dad","publishDate":1551916467,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Dream | The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>At 3:00 p.m. on a windy February day in San Diego, 100-year-old Ginny Davenport — with her smiling eyes and flawless manicure — is excited about the evening ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I hope about five o’clock, before the girls leave, that we’ll sit down and have a vermouth,” Ginny said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The girls, as Ginny calls them, are her daughters. There’s 69-year-old Kelly and 67-year-old Riley. Both sisters are married. Riley is retired and Kelly is semi-retired. They have children. Kelly has a grandchild. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And both have taken responsibility for Ginny, as they call her, after their father’s recent death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"small\" align=”right” citation=\"Debbie Nichols, 65, of Huntington Beach\"]'My generation feels caught in the middle. We have responsibilities on both ends. There are a lot of financial commitments my generation has and that is why we’re still working.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We basically share her ... two weeks at my house and two weeks here at my sister’s house,\" said Riley Davenport. “It helps us not get responsibility fatigue if you will.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a time in life when 60- or 70-something seniors anticipate retirement, and maybe some downtime, some are becoming caregivers and guardians of their parents. No stats exist on how widespread this is, but the trend is expected to intensify. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People are living longer,” said University of Southern California gerontology professor Donna Benton.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Caregiving by younger seniors — amid their own aging process — has its costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For family caregivers, almost 50 percent report some type of strain or symptoms of depression,” Benton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At 65, Debbie Nichols of Huntington Beach continues to work full time in sales so she can financially help her two adult children as well as her elderly parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My generation feels caught in the middle,” Nichols said. “We have responsibilities on both ends. There are a lot of financial commitments my generation has and that is why we’re still working.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Riley Davenport said for her family, resources and planning have been key in taking care of her mom while maintaining the freedom of retirement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"The California Dream Series\" tag=\"california-dream\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We do have caregivers during the day so that I can work or play or do whatever I am going to do,” Riley said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The professional caregivers help Ginny out of bed and bathe her. They take her to doctor’s appointments and track her medications.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ginny’s older daughter Kelly Davenport said the sisters considered moving their mom to a senior community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I think that just neither of us can imagine that it would be the best thing for her, or us really,” Kelly said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While they take turns living with their mom, they learn more about her every day. They recently came across a letter Ginny’s first husband, not their father, wrote during World War II.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’d written her saying, `You know I’m going to go on this bombing mission tomorrow and I don’t expect to make it home alive so you go ahead and have a life, marry and have kids like we talked about,’” Kelly said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ginny did just that after her husband was killed in World War II. She ultimately fell in love again and married Bill Davenport. They had Kelly and Riley and settled in Point Loma where they lived until he died in October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11731093\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-800x678.jpg\" alt=\"Ginny visits with Kelly’s dog, Willow.\" width=\"800\" height=\"678\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11731093\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-800x678.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-160x136.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-1020x865.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-1200x1018.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog.jpg 1631w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ginny visits with Kelly’s dog, Willow. \u003ccite>(Amita Sharma/KPBS)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I’ve lost people I’ve loved deeply and learned how to deal with it,” Ginny said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And she has lived fully. Kelly said Ginny got to hang around Winston Churchill after she joined the United States Foreign Service and worked for former U.S. Ambassador John Winant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Winston Churchill gave her her first sip of champagne,” Kelly said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, Ginny reads novels about that era. There’s the romance about a time-traveling World War II nurse. “I’ve been rereading The Outlander because I like it,” Ginny said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She likes to watch “The Golden Girls” on television. And she talks with her daughters about her life and their lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can’t think of anything we haven’t shared,” Ginny said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gerontologist Benton says the Davenports’ story is atypical when it comes to seniors caring for their elderly parents. Too often families don’t have the relationships, resources or health to age together so gracefully. But when they do, Benton said it’s ideal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It does allow for everyone to grow throughout their lifetime,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ginny said living with her daughters couldn’t be more comfortable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re a part of me,” Ginny said. “Having grown up with them, I’m still growing up with them. It doesn’t sound right. But that’s what it’s like.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/series/californiadream/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The California Dream series\u003c/a> is a statewide media collaboration of CALmatters, KPBS, KPCC, KQED and Capital Public Radio with support from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the James Irvine Foundation and the College Futures Foundation.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-11660142\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1867\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner.jpg 1867w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-160x44.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-800x219.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-1020x280.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-1180x324.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-960x263.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-240x66.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-375x103.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-520x143.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1867px) 100vw, 1867px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"People are living longer compared to decades ago, spawning a trend: Senior citizens taking care of their very elderly parents. 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There’s 69-year-old Kelly and 67-year-old Riley. Both sisters are married. Riley is retired and Kelly is semi-retired. They have children. Kelly has a grandchild. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And both have taken responsibility for Ginny, as they call her, after their father’s recent death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'My generation feels caught in the middle. We have responsibilities on both ends. 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No stats exist on how widespread this is, but the trend is expected to intensify. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People are living longer,” said University of Southern California gerontology professor Donna Benton.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Caregiving by younger seniors — amid their own aging process — has its costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For family caregivers, almost 50 percent report some type of strain or symptoms of depression,” Benton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At 65, Debbie Nichols of Huntington Beach continues to work full time in sales so she can financially help her two adult children as well as her elderly parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My generation feels caught in the middle,” Nichols said. “We have responsibilities on both ends. There are a lot of financial commitments my generation has and that is why we’re still working.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Riley Davenport said for her family, resources and planning have been key in taking care of her mom while maintaining the freedom of retirement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"The California Dream Series ","tag":"california-dream"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We do have caregivers during the day so that I can work or play or do whatever I am going to do,” Riley said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The professional caregivers help Ginny out of bed and bathe her. They take her to doctor’s appointments and track her medications.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ginny’s older daughter Kelly Davenport said the sisters considered moving their mom to a senior community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I think that just neither of us can imagine that it would be the best thing for her, or us really,” Kelly said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While they take turns living with their mom, they learn more about her every day. They recently came across a letter Ginny’s first husband, not their father, wrote during World War II.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’d written her saying, `You know I’m going to go on this bombing mission tomorrow and I don’t expect to make it home alive so you go ahead and have a life, marry and have kids like we talked about,’” Kelly said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ginny did just that after her husband was killed in World War II. She ultimately fell in love again and married Bill Davenport. They had Kelly and Riley and settled in Point Loma where they lived until he died in October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11731093\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-800x678.jpg\" alt=\"Ginny visits with Kelly’s dog, Willow.\" width=\"800\" height=\"678\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11731093\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-800x678.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-160x136.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-1020x865.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog-1200x1018.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/03/GinnyWithDog.jpg 1631w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ginny visits with Kelly’s dog, Willow. \u003ccite>(Amita Sharma/KPBS)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I’ve lost people I’ve loved deeply and learned how to deal with it,” Ginny said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And she has lived fully. Kelly said Ginny got to hang around Winston Churchill after she joined the United States Foreign Service and worked for former U.S. Ambassador John Winant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Winston Churchill gave her her first sip of champagne,” Kelly said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, Ginny reads novels about that era. There’s the romance about a time-traveling World War II nurse. “I’ve been rereading The Outlander because I like it,” Ginny said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She likes to watch “The Golden Girls” on television. And she talks with her daughters about her life and their lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I can’t think of anything we haven’t shared,” Ginny said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gerontologist Benton says the Davenports’ story is atypical when it comes to seniors caring for their elderly parents. Too often families don’t have the relationships, resources or health to age together so gracefully. But when they do, Benton said it’s ideal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It does allow for everyone to grow throughout their lifetime,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ginny said living with her daughters couldn’t be more comfortable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re a part of me,” Ginny said. “Having grown up with them, I’m still growing up with them. It doesn’t sound right. But that’s what it’s like.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/series/californiadream/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The California Dream series\u003c/a> is a statewide media collaboration of CALmatters, KPBS, KPCC, KQED and Capital Public Radio with support from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the James Irvine Foundation and the College Futures Foundation.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-11660142\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1867\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner.jpg 1867w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-160x44.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-800x219.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-1020x280.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-1180x324.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-960x263.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-240x66.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-375x103.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/04/CADreamBanner-520x143.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1867px) 100vw, 1867px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11731072/more-retirees-find-themselves-taking-care-of-mom-and-dad","authors":["byline_news_11731072"],"programs":["news_72"],"series":["news_21879"],"categories":["news_457","news_6266","news_8"],"tags":["news_2814","news_21840","news_22072","news_18143","news_4486"],"featImg":"news_11731079","label":"source_news_11731072"},"news_11666479":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11666479","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11666479","score":null,"sort":[1525475161000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"lives-well-lived-filmmaker-sky-bergman-features-the-secrets-wisdom-and-wit-of-age","title":"Lives Well Lived: Filmmaker Sky Bergman Features the Secrets, Wisdom and Wit of Age","publishDate":1525475161,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Sky Bergman got the idea for her new documentary, \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.lives-well-lived.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lives Well Lived\u003c/a>,\" from her visits with her grandmother, who was still going to the gym as she hit her 100th birthday. She began to collect the stories of other vibrant and dynamic elders, ending up with 40 interviews with seniors ranging in age from 75 to 100 years old, many of them Californians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[vimeo 132338363 w=640 h=360]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bergman is a professor of photography at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, and this is her first documentary feature. She talked this week with Sasha Khokha, host of The California Report Magazine. Here is some of the best wit and wisdom the seniors shared in the film.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Being kind and being nice to people. No matter where you are and no matter what the situation. It always comes back to you,\" says Evelyn Ricciuti. \"And that’s my philosophy of life, and I love every minute of it. I love life as it is. And that’s why I like to live. I want to live. I want to see more. And learn more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11666499\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11666499\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-800x452.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-800x452.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-1020x576.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-1200x678.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-1180x666.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-960x542.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-240x136.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-375x212.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-520x294.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Emmy Cleaves, 86, has been practicing yoga for years. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Sky Bergman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I teach because I think it’s so important. It’s a passion. It’s an obsession. I want as many people to do yoga as possible because it is a priceless gift you can give to yourself. Health is really where everything is at. The quality of your life is completely governed by the state of your health. At my age, if I hadn’t done yoga, I’d probably be sitting here and be sad and tired.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11666502\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11666502\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-800x640.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-800x640.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-160x128.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-1020x816.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-1200x960.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-1180x944.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-960x768.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-240x192.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-375x300.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-520x416.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut.jpg 1321w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Blanche Brown, 78, teaches Afro-Haitian dance classes once a week in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Sky Bergman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"Life goes by so quickly. Most young people are in such a hurry to get to the next part of their life or whatever they're doing. They don't take time to enjoy what's happening right now.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11666508\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11666508\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-800x566.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"566\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-800x566.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-160x113.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-1020x721.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-1200x849.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-1180x835.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-960x679.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-240x170.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-375x265.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-520x368.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lou Tedone, 92, makes fresh mozzarella from scratch every day for his family's deli. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Sky Bergman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"Happiness is a state of mind. You can be happy with what you have, or miserable with what you don’t have. You decide.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11666564\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11666564\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rose Ballestero, 80, is currently completing her PhD at USC. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Sky Bergman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"No matter what age you are, learning never stops, you still keep learning.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A new documentary explores what it takes to stay healthy and vibrant well into the golden years.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1525479063,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":10,"wordCount":418},"headData":{"title":"Lives Well Lived: Filmmaker Sky Bergman Features the Secrets, Wisdom and Wit of Age | KQED","description":"A new documentary explores what it takes to stay healthy and vibrant well into the golden years.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Lives Well Lived: Filmmaker Sky Bergman Features the Secrets, Wisdom and Wit of Age","datePublished":"2018-05-04T23:06:01.000Z","dateModified":"2018-05-05T00:11:03.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11666479 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11666479","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/05/04/lives-well-lived-filmmaker-sky-bergman-features-the-secrets-wisdom-and-wit-of-age/","disqusTitle":"Lives Well Lived: Filmmaker Sky Bergman Features the Secrets, Wisdom and Wit of Age","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2018/05/TCRPM20180504b.mp3","path":"/news/11666479/lives-well-lived-filmmaker-sky-bergman-features-the-secrets-wisdom-and-wit-of-age","audioDuration":357000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Sky Bergman got the idea for her new documentary, \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.lives-well-lived.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lives Well Lived\u003c/a>,\" from her visits with her grandmother, who was still going to the gym as she hit her 100th birthday. She began to collect the stories of other vibrant and dynamic elders, ending up with 40 interviews with seniors ranging in age from 75 to 100 years old, many of them Californians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"vimeo","attributes":{"named":{"w":"640","h":"360","label":"132338363"},"numeric":["132338363"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bergman is a professor of photography at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, and this is her first documentary feature. She talked this week with Sasha Khokha, host of The California Report Magazine. Here is some of the best wit and wisdom the seniors shared in the film.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Being kind and being nice to people. No matter where you are and no matter what the situation. It always comes back to you,\" says Evelyn Ricciuti. \"And that’s my philosophy of life, and I love every minute of it. I love life as it is. And that’s why I like to live. I want to live. I want to see more. And learn more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11666499\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11666499\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-800x452.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-800x452.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-1020x576.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-1200x678.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-1180x666.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-960x542.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-240x136.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-375x212.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30663_02-Emmy_Cleaves2_preview-qut-520x294.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Emmy Cleaves, 86, has been practicing yoga for years. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Sky Bergman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I teach because I think it’s so important. It’s a passion. It’s an obsession. I want as many people to do yoga as possible because it is a priceless gift you can give to yourself. Health is really where everything is at. The quality of your life is completely governed by the state of your health. At my age, if I hadn’t done yoga, I’d probably be sitting here and be sad and tired.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11666502\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11666502\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-800x640.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-800x640.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-160x128.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-1020x816.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-1200x960.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-1180x944.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-960x768.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-240x192.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-375x300.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut-520x416.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30664_03-Blanche-Brownv2_preview-qut.jpg 1321w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Blanche Brown, 78, teaches Afro-Haitian dance classes once a week in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Sky Bergman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"Life goes by so quickly. Most young people are in such a hurry to get to the next part of their life or whatever they're doing. They don't take time to enjoy what's happening right now.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11666508\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11666508\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-800x566.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"566\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-800x566.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-160x113.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-1020x721.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-1200x849.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-1180x835.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-960x679.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-240x170.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-375x265.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS30665_04-Lou-Tedone_preview-qut-520x368.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lou Tedone, 92, makes fresh mozzarella from scratch every day for his family's deli. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Sky Bergman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"Happiness is a state of mind. You can be happy with what you have, or miserable with what you don’t have. You decide.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11666564\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11666564\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/Rose-Ballestero-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rose Ballestero, 80, is currently completing her PhD at USC. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Sky Bergman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"No matter what age you are, learning never stops, you still keep learning.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11666479/lives-well-lived-filmmaker-sky-bergman-features-the-secrets-wisdom-and-wit-of-age","authors":["11412"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_223","news_8"],"tags":["news_2814","news_19374","news_2081"],"featImg":"news_11666492","label":"news_72"},"futureofyou_440367":{"type":"posts","id":"futureofyou_440367","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"futureofyou","id":"440367","score":null,"sort":[1521748381000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"a-dietary-supplement-makes-old-mice-youthful-will-it-work-in-people","title":"A Dietary Supplement Makes Old Mice Youthful. Will It Work in People?","publishDate":1521748381,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Future of You | KQED Future of You | KQED Science","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Transfusing \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/03/02/young-blood-anti-aging-study/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">young blood\u003c/a> and freezing heads may get most of the anti-aging and life-extension buzz, but don’t count out the molecule hunters: After setbacks and stumbles and what critics called \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2010/01/12/the_sirtris_compounds_worthless_really\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">debacles\u003c/a>, these scientists are figuring out which biochemicals might potentially, possibly be fountains of youth in pill form.[contextly_sidebar id=\"YaFBEqHshnjDvp4XR5pAEiDxJjAI7Fx4\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the latest advance, biologists \u003ca href=\"http://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(18)30152-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported\u003c/a> on Thursday that a molecule already sold by supplement makers (even as scientists scramble to understand it) restored youthfulness to blood vessels in 20-month-old mice, an age comparable to 70 years in people. The research supports the idea that boosting certain genes and molecules that fade with age could keep people functional, resilient, and even spry well into their 80s, even without living longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s quite an important paper,” said Dr. Eric Verdin, of the California-based Buck Institute for Research on Aging, who was not involved in the\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/439750/superagers-maintain-memory-into-80s-and-90s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> new research\u003c/a>. “It’s probably not the magic pill everyone is looking for, but it’s one more brick in our efforts to understand aging and healthspan,” or how long people can stay biologically young(ish) even as their birthday candles proliferate.[contextly_sidebar id=\"Vl0Meh1Zh9UAHnk3RIGR5S5B5rBQ0sSW\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others were more skeptical, calling the advance at best “incremental” (and asking to remain anonymous so as not to antagonize colleagues). And science is littered with examples of compounds that worked in mice but not people. “It’s hard to tell how significant any contribution is until it has been replicated and extended” by other labs, said David Harrison of the Jackson Lab, an expert on the molecular \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/440080/hearts-get-younger-even-at-middle-age-with-exercise\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">mechanisms of aging.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003caside>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The new study, in Cell, found that boosting mice’s levels of the naturally occurring molecule NMN, which humans also have, increased levels of another called NAD+. That, in turn, raised levels of a famous anti-aging enzyme called SIRT1, which has been the focus of nearly 30 years of research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After two months of NMN, more blood vessels sprouted in the old mice’s muscles. The density of the smallest vessels — capillaries — became comparable to that of young mice. Blood flow increased, and the animals’ endurance, measured by how long they could run on a treadmill before becoming exhausted, was 56 percent to 80 percent greater than that of untreated old mice: 1,400 feet compared to 780 feet.[contextly_sidebar id=\"8Tmsn0Ufo1g8AeUi0b3OJ5Td2G7sq49c\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The treated mice also benefitted from exercise like mice half their age. In young animals, exercise spurs the creation of new blood vessels and boosts muscle mass, but that effect weakens with age in both people and mice. NMN restored the blood-vessel- and muscle-boosting effects of a good treadmill run, basically “reversing vascular aging in the mice,” said study co-leader David Sinclair of Harvard Medical School.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-440373 size-medium\" title=\"iStock\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-800x588.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"588\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-800x588.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-768x564.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-1020x749.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-1920x1411.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-1180x867.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-960x705.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-240x176.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-375x275.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-520x382.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Opinions differed on how important that is. One expert on the biology of aging said, “So David’s found another molecule that prevents aging?” (Sinclair was a prominent exponent of resveratrol, a compound that slowed aging in mice but proved disappointing in people.) The Jax’s Harrison questioned whether the inbred mice used in the study were representative of humans, who are genetically diverse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>New blood vessels could also be a mixed blessing. They support the growth of tumors, which is why anti-angiogenesis molecules have become cancer drugs. The scientists found no excess cancers in the mice given NMR, but “more study is warranted,” they wrote.[contextly_sidebar id=\"EmvIbKqj3sGiXrLYKODcw1UEPJNlCkZr\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The blood-vessel benefits of NMN didn’t happen if the mice lacked the SIRT1 gene, probably the brightest star in the anti-aging firmament. In the 1990s, it and the six other genes belonging to the family called sirtuins took aging research by storm, as biologists showed that increasing the genes’ activity extended lifespan in yeast, roundworms, and fruit flies by up to 30 percent. When Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Leonard Guarente, whose lab was sirtuin central, found that the lifespan-extending effect of drastic caloric restriction works by turning up sirtuin genes, it seemed to point the way to slowing aging: Activate sirtuins with a molecule.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That proved easier said than done. Some studies, especially in higher animals, contradicted the simple notion that overexpression of sirtuins translated into longer life. The biggest setback involved resveratrol, a compound found in grapes and wine, which activates the SIRT1 gene. After years of hyperbolic headlines and soaring sales, the resveratrol bubble burst. GlaxoSmithKline bought Cambridge, Mass.-based Sirtris Pharmaceuticals, which Sinclair co-founded in 2004 to develop sirtuin-boosting compounds, for $720 million, but within five years essentially shut it down.[contextly_sidebar id=\"FSd7BTxFEMjJhm2kkUJ0cTaJQITZc3CT\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Resveratrol is very, very good [at activating SIRT1 and extending lifespan] if you’re a mouse,” said Guarente, who cheerfully acknowledges buying a 10-year supply of micronized resveratrol. Most of it is still in his basement. “But the human trials were all over the place, which was unsettling,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those failures led scientists to search for other sirtuin-boosting molecules. In 2014, Guarente co-founded Elysium Health, which, for $40 to $60 per month, sells a dietary supplement that boosts NAD+ levels and activates SIRT1. Since levels of NAD+ fall as people age, the hope is that providing the raw material for it will raise those levels, slowing aging. The pills seem to be safe, Guarente and colleagues \u003ca href=\"https://www.nature.com/articles/s41514-017-0016-9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported\u003c/a> last year, and additional human studies are underway to test whether they benefit health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thanks to \u003ca href=\"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3188402/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">negative studies\u003c/a>, the jury is still out on whether anything related to sirtuins will extend lifespan, but the Cell study offers some hope for extending healthspan. If boosting NAD+ promotes blood vessel formation via SIRT1, it might “rescue muscle mass” that otherwise decreases as blood vessels atrophy, Guarente said. That could prevent the bone loss, frailty, and falls that can be fatal in old age.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Anything that contributes to muscle health through vascular health is likely to be quite important,” said the Buck Institute’s Verdin, who takes a daily NAD+ precursor.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Sinclair and his team are now studying whether raising NAD+ might also spur the creation of blood vessels in the brain. There and in other organs, said Sinclair, “the lack of oxygen and buildup of waste products” that results from loss of small blood vessels “sets off a downward spiral of disease and disability.” In the brain, that would include vascular dementia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sinclair takes NMN to boost NAD+ levels. “In someone my age [49], it’s probably harder to see immediate benefits,” he said, though he said he feels sharper and younger on it. After his 78-year-old father began taking NMN “he started climbing mountains and going whitewater rafting and looking forward to the next five years,” Sinclair said. “It might be psychological, but it isn’t hurting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Only rigorous human research can determine that. Metro International Biotech, a Michigan-based startup for which Sinclair consults, just finished a clinical trial of the safety of a proprietary version of NMN and hopes to start a trial of the molecule’s efficacy this year, Sinclair said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One concern is that boosting sirtuins could backfire. An excess of the molecules, Verdin said, can promote autoimmunity, which causes diseases such as Crohn’s and rheumatoid arthritis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That should give us pause about broad claims of what they can do,” he cautioned. “I worry sometimes that [with NAD+-boosting pills already on the market] the field is getting ahead of itself.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was originally published by\u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> STAT\u003c/a>, an online publication of Boston Globe Media that covers health, medicine, and scientific discovery.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Biologists found that a supplement already sold in stores restored youthfulness to blood vessels in mice.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1521748407,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":1324},"headData":{"title":"A Dietary Supplement Makes Old Mice Youthful. Will It Work in People? | KQED","description":"Biologists found that a supplement already sold in stores restored youthfulness to blood vessels in mice.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"A Dietary Supplement Makes Old Mice Youthful. Will It Work in People?","datePublished":"2018-03-22T19:53:01.000Z","dateModified":"2018-03-22T19:53:27.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"440367 https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/?p=440367","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2018/03/22/a-dietary-supplement-makes-old-mice-youthful-will-it-work-in-people/","disqusTitle":"A Dietary Supplement Makes Old Mice Youthful. Will It Work in People?","source":"Hope/Hype","nprByline":"Sharon Begley\u003c/BR>\u003cstrong>STAT\u003c/strong>","path":"/futureofyou/440367/a-dietary-supplement-makes-old-mice-youthful-will-it-work-in-people","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Transfusing \u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/2018/03/02/young-blood-anti-aging-study/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">young blood\u003c/a> and freezing heads may get most of the anti-aging and life-extension buzz, but don’t count out the molecule hunters: After setbacks and stumbles and what critics called \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2010/01/12/the_sirtris_compounds_worthless_really\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">debacles\u003c/a>, these scientists are figuring out which biochemicals might potentially, possibly be fountains of youth in pill form.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the latest advance, biologists \u003ca href=\"http://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(18)30152-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported\u003c/a> on Thursday that a molecule already sold by supplement makers (even as scientists scramble to understand it) restored youthfulness to blood vessels in 20-month-old mice, an age comparable to 70 years in people. The research supports the idea that boosting certain genes and molecules that fade with age could keep people functional, resilient, and even spry well into their 80s, even without living longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s quite an important paper,” said Dr. Eric Verdin, of the California-based Buck Institute for Research on Aging, who was not involved in the\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/439750/superagers-maintain-memory-into-80s-and-90s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> new research\u003c/a>. “It’s probably not the magic pill everyone is looking for, but it’s one more brick in our efforts to understand aging and healthspan,” or how long people can stay biologically young(ish) even as their birthday candles proliferate.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others were more skeptical, calling the advance at best “incremental” (and asking to remain anonymous so as not to antagonize colleagues). And science is littered with examples of compounds that worked in mice but not people. “It’s hard to tell how significant any contribution is until it has been replicated and extended” by other labs, said David Harrison of the Jackson Lab, an expert on the molecular \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/440080/hearts-get-younger-even-at-middle-age-with-exercise\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">mechanisms of aging.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003caside>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The new study, in Cell, found that boosting mice’s levels of the naturally occurring molecule NMN, which humans also have, increased levels of another called NAD+. That, in turn, raised levels of a famous anti-aging enzyme called SIRT1, which has been the focus of nearly 30 years of research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After two months of NMN, more blood vessels sprouted in the old mice’s muscles. The density of the smallest vessels — capillaries — became comparable to that of young mice. Blood flow increased, and the animals’ endurance, measured by how long they could run on a treadmill before becoming exhausted, was 56 percent to 80 percent greater than that of untreated old mice: 1,400 feet compared to 780 feet.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The treated mice also benefitted from exercise like mice half their age. In young animals, exercise spurs the creation of new blood vessels and boosts muscle mass, but that effect weakens with age in both people and mice. NMN restored the blood-vessel- and muscle-boosting effects of a good treadmill run, basically “reversing vascular aging in the mice,” said study co-leader David Sinclair of Harvard Medical School.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-440373 size-medium\" title=\"iStock\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-800x588.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"588\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-800x588.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-768x564.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-1020x749.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-1920x1411.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-1180x867.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-960x705.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-240x176.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-375x275.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2018/03/iStock-639071970-520x382.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Opinions differed on how important that is. One expert on the biology of aging said, “So David’s found another molecule that prevents aging?” (Sinclair was a prominent exponent of resveratrol, a compound that slowed aging in mice but proved disappointing in people.) The Jax’s Harrison questioned whether the inbred mice used in the study were representative of humans, who are genetically diverse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>New blood vessels could also be a mixed blessing. They support the growth of tumors, which is why anti-angiogenesis molecules have become cancer drugs. The scientists found no excess cancers in the mice given NMR, but “more study is warranted,” they wrote.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The blood-vessel benefits of NMN didn’t happen if the mice lacked the SIRT1 gene, probably the brightest star in the anti-aging firmament. In the 1990s, it and the six other genes belonging to the family called sirtuins took aging research by storm, as biologists showed that increasing the genes’ activity extended lifespan in yeast, roundworms, and fruit flies by up to 30 percent. When Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Leonard Guarente, whose lab was sirtuin central, found that the lifespan-extending effect of drastic caloric restriction works by turning up sirtuin genes, it seemed to point the way to slowing aging: Activate sirtuins with a molecule.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That proved easier said than done. Some studies, especially in higher animals, contradicted the simple notion that overexpression of sirtuins translated into longer life. The biggest setback involved resveratrol, a compound found in grapes and wine, which activates the SIRT1 gene. After years of hyperbolic headlines and soaring sales, the resveratrol bubble burst. GlaxoSmithKline bought Cambridge, Mass.-based Sirtris Pharmaceuticals, which Sinclair co-founded in 2004 to develop sirtuin-boosting compounds, for $720 million, but within five years essentially shut it down.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Resveratrol is very, very good [at activating SIRT1 and extending lifespan] if you’re a mouse,” said Guarente, who cheerfully acknowledges buying a 10-year supply of micronized resveratrol. Most of it is still in his basement. “But the human trials were all over the place, which was unsettling,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those failures led scientists to search for other sirtuin-boosting molecules. In 2014, Guarente co-founded Elysium Health, which, for $40 to $60 per month, sells a dietary supplement that boosts NAD+ levels and activates SIRT1. Since levels of NAD+ fall as people age, the hope is that providing the raw material for it will raise those levels, slowing aging. The pills seem to be safe, Guarente and colleagues \u003ca href=\"https://www.nature.com/articles/s41514-017-0016-9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported\u003c/a> last year, and additional human studies are underway to test whether they benefit health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thanks to \u003ca href=\"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3188402/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">negative studies\u003c/a>, the jury is still out on whether anything related to sirtuins will extend lifespan, but the Cell study offers some hope for extending healthspan. If boosting NAD+ promotes blood vessel formation via SIRT1, it might “rescue muscle mass” that otherwise decreases as blood vessels atrophy, Guarente said. That could prevent the bone loss, frailty, and falls that can be fatal in old age.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Anything that contributes to muscle health through vascular health is likely to be quite important,” said the Buck Institute’s Verdin, who takes a daily NAD+ precursor.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Sinclair and his team are now studying whether raising NAD+ might also spur the creation of blood vessels in the brain. There and in other organs, said Sinclair, “the lack of oxygen and buildup of waste products” that results from loss of small blood vessels “sets off a downward spiral of disease and disability.” In the brain, that would include vascular dementia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sinclair takes NMN to boost NAD+ levels. “In someone my age [49], it’s probably harder to see immediate benefits,” he said, though he said he feels sharper and younger on it. After his 78-year-old father began taking NMN “he started climbing mountains and going whitewater rafting and looking forward to the next five years,” Sinclair said. “It might be psychological, but it isn’t hurting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Only rigorous human research can determine that. Metro International Biotech, a Michigan-based startup for which Sinclair consults, just finished a clinical trial of the safety of a proprietary version of NMN and hopes to start a trial of the molecule’s efficacy this year, Sinclair said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One concern is that boosting sirtuins could backfire. An excess of the molecules, Verdin said, can promote autoimmunity, which causes diseases such as Crohn’s and rheumatoid arthritis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That should give us pause about broad claims of what they can do,” he cautioned. “I worry sometimes that [with NAD+-boosting pills already on the market] the field is getting ahead of itself.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was originally published by\u003ca href=\"https://www.statnews.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> STAT\u003c/a>, an online publication of Boston Globe Media that covers health, medicine, and scientific discovery.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/futureofyou/440367/a-dietary-supplement-makes-old-mice-youthful-will-it-work-in-people","authors":["byline_futureofyou_440367"],"programs":["futureofyou_54"],"categories":["futureofyou_1060","futureofyou_1062","futureofyou_1","futureofyou_73"],"tags":["futureofyou_61","futureofyou_1144","futureofyou_978","futureofyou_294","futureofyou_1434"],"collections":["futureofyou_1093","futureofyou_1097"],"featImg":"futureofyou_440369","label":"source_futureofyou_440367"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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