Trump: Why Allow More Immigrants From ‘Shithole Countries’?

President Trump speaks during a meeting on prison reform in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, D.C., on Jan 11, 2018. (Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images)

WASHINGTON — President Trump questioned Thursday why the U.S. should permit more immigrants from “shithole countries” after senators discussed revamping rules affecting entrants from Africa and Haiti, according to three people briefed on the conversation.

Trump made the remark in the Oval Office as two lawmakers described details to him of a bipartisan compromise among six senators that would extend protections against deportation for hundreds of thousands of young immigrants and strengthen border protections.

The senators had hoped Trump would back their accord, ending a months-long, bitter dispute over protecting “Dreamers.” But the White House later rejected their proposed agreement, plunging the issue back into uncertainty just eight days before a deadline that threatens a government shutdown.

During their conversation, Dick Durbin of Illinois, the chamber’s No. 2 Senate Democratic leader, was explaining that as part of that deal, a lottery for visas that has benefited people from Africa and other nations would be ended, the sources said, though there could be some other way for them to apply. Durbin said people would be allowed to stay in the U.S. who fled here after disasters hit their homes in places including El Salvador, Guatemala and Haiti.

Trump specifically questioned why the U.S. would want to admit more people from Haiti. He also mentioned Africa and asked why more people from “shithole countries” should be allowed into the U.S., the sources said.

The president suggested that instead, the U.S. should allow more entrants from countries like Norway. Trump met this week with Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg.

Asked about the remarks, White House spokesman Raj Shah did not deny them.

“Certain Washington politicians choose to fight for foreign countries, but President Trump will always fight for the American people,” he said.

Trump’s remarks were remarkable even by the standards of a president who has been accused by his foes of racist attitudes and has routinely smashed through public decorum that his modern predecessors have generally embraced.

The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to publicly describe the conversation.

The Trump administration announced late last year that it would end a temporary residency permit program that allowed nearly 60,000 citizens from Haiti to live and work in the United States following a devastating 2010 earthquake.

Trump has spoken positively about Haitians in public. During a 2016 campaign event in Miami, he said “the Haitian people deserve better” and told the audience of Haitian-Americans he wanted to “be your greatest champion, and I will be your champion.”

The agreement that Durbin and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., described to Trump also includes his $1.6 billion request for a first installment on his long-sought border wall, aides familiar with the agreement said. They required anonymity because the agreement is not yet public.

Trump’s request covers 74 miles of border wall as part of a 10-year, $18 billion proposal.

Democrats, including Durbin, had long vowed they would not fund the wall but are accepting the opening request as part of a broader plan that protects from deportation about 800,000 younger immigrants brought to the country as children and now here illegally.

The deal also includes restrictions on rules allowing immigrants to bring some relatives to the U.S.

In an afternoon of drama and confusing developments, three other GOP lawmakers — including two hard-liners on immigration — were also in Trump’s office for Thursday’s meeting, a development sources said Durbin and Graham did not expect. It was unclear why the three Republicans were there, and the session did not produce the results the two senators were hoping for.

“There has not been a deal reached yet,” said White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders. But she added, “We haven’t quite gotten there, but we feel like we’re close.”

Underscoring the pitfalls facing the effort, other Republicans also undercut the significance of the deal the half-dozen senators hoped to sell to Trump.

“How do six people bind the other 94 in the Senate? I don’t get that,” said No. 2 Senate Republican John Cornyn of Texas.

Cornyn said the six lawmakers were hoping for a deal and “everyone would fall in line. The president made it clear to me on the phone less than an hour ago that he wasn’t going to do that.”

The six senators have been meeting for months to find a way to revive protections for young immigrants who arrived in the U.S. as children and are here illegally. Trump ended the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program last year but has given Congress until March 5 to find a way to keep it alive.

Federal agencies will run out of money and have to shut down if lawmakers don’t pass legislation extending their financing by Jan. 19. Some Democrats are threatening to withhold their votes — which Republicans will need to push that legislation through Congress — unless an immigration accord is reached.

Cornyn said the real work for a bipartisan immigration deal will be achieved by a group of four leading lawmakers — the No. 2 Republicans and Democrats in both the House and Senate. That group met for the first time this week.

The immigration effort seemed to receive a boost Tuesday when Trump met with two dozen lawmakers and agreed to seek a bipartisan way to resuscitate the program. The group agreed to also include provisions strengthening security — which for Trump means building parts of a wall along the border with Mexico — curbing immigrants’ relatives from coming here and restricting the visa lottery.

Also in Thursday’s Oval Office meeting were House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., and two conservative lawmakers who have taken a hard line on immigration: Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va.

A Republican with knowledge of Thursday’s meeting said the White House hastily invited Cotton to join the immigration discussion.

“The American people don’t want that style of immigration reform,” Cotton told reporters about the bipartisan senators’ offer. “They certainly don’t want this pine needle of a proposal that was on the table today.”

Any immigration deal would face hurdles winning congressional approval.

Many Democrats would oppose providing substantial sums for Trump’s campaign promise to build a wall along the border with Mexico. Many Latino and liberal members of the party oppose steps toward curtailing immigration such as ending the visa lottery and restricting the relatives that legal immigrants could bring to the U.S.

Among Republicans, some conservatives are insisting on going further than the steps that Trump has suggested. They want to reduce legal immigration, require employers to verify workers’ citizenship and block federal grants to so-called sanctuary cities that hinder federal anti-immigrant efforts.

Associated Press writers Jill Colvin, Andrew Taylor, Kevin Freking and Matthew Daly contributed to this report.

Trump: Why Allow More Immigrants From ‘Shithole Countries’? 12 January,2018KQED News Staff

  • Richie Tenenbaum

    He’s had his ups and downs, but this is why I voted for him.

    People from 3rd world countries bring the 3rd world with them. Look at the Somali community in Minnesota.

    Americans should insist that all immigration come from 1st world countries.

    • Sherry

      Another breathtaking comment. So much for “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”. This commenter doesn’t know any more about the poem on the base of the Statue of Liberty than Mr. Trump knows the lyrics to the National Anthem.

      • Richie Tenenbaum

        “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”

        This is not part of the constitution. It’s part of a poem. It has no legal weight.

        Anyway, it might have made sense in the 1800’s before the welfare state. Today, 46% of Haitian immigrants households use at least one major welfare program. That’s compared to 20% for native born Americans.

        Trump is right. Haitians and other 3rd-worlders are a drain on the USA.

    • virgil

      Although I agree with your sentiment, fact is how many people from France and Germany want to immigrate to the USA? Some of course but not enough to meet our needs.

      • Kurt thialfad


      • desertpatriot

        what needs?

        • virgil

          Economic needs…birth rate is not keeping up with employment requirements for the largest economy in the world. Sorry but it you want fries with your burger you gonna have to import labor to do it or build robots to do it.

          • desertpatriot

            both possibilities you offered are valid. we could/should import cheap guest labor from south of the border (can you say ‘bracero program’?) for menial labor. and we could/should design robotic machinery to flip burgers and cook fries.

  • James Higginbotham

    we need to DEPORT ALL HERE who are from third world countries.

    • Sherry

      Is this comment for real? Hard to believe a subscriber to KQED email news would harbor such a hateful thought.

      • James Higginbotham

        unless you are one of the CLUELESS UNEDUCATED ONES? it’s NOT hateful to keep our Republic FREE OF RIF RALF FREE LOADERS.
        unless maybe you’re one of those oh; can’t we all get along leftist.

        • virgil

          Take a break comrade, take a chill pill. Have another slug of vodka.

          • James Higginbotham

            i am always chilled slick.
            if ya don’t LIKE THE TRUTH, THEN SKIP OVER MY POSTS LOL.]

          • virgil

            If you don’t like my replies comrade than go have another bowl of borscht

          • James Higginbotham

            seems you don’t like the TRUTH, so i have an idea, why not just STFU TO ME ASS WIPE, HOW’S THAT.
            and NOW your DONE.

          • virgil

            Wow if you are an “American” I really, really, really hope you don’t own an AR 15 and lots of ammo….cuz tick tick tick…..and you are gonna leave a lot of dead people before you do the right thing and stick in your mouth

      • virgil

        The dude is obviously a Russian troll.

    • virgil

      OK Say Hello to your comrades on the troll farm….what is the weather like in Moscow today?

  • virgil

    OK his language was extreme and un presidential (although hardly unique) but he has a point. USA is becoming some kind of 3rd world retirement home.

    • Kurt thialfad

      Nixon used extreme language.

      • virgil

        You make my point for me!!!

        • Kurt thialfad

          The US is becoming a shithole, and parts already are. Am I racist saying that?
          We all know what a shithole is. It’s a dump.

          • desertpatriot

            if you want to see what an american shithole is then i encourage you to visit los angeles, ca sometime. it has become the dumping ground for the bloody turn world.

  • Kurt thialfad

    We should never accept immigrants from any country not willing to take any back as deportees. That is nonsense.
    Also. any DACA deal should end automatic birth citizenship and prosecute the parents for their border crimes.

  • desertpatriot

    remind me once again how i as an american benefit by america taking in immigrants from shithole countries?

  • desertpatriot

    “why” indeed.

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