Stephanie Martin Taylor: So, you walked Walter Mondale to the stage from the dressing room? I didn't know that.
Boe Martin: The lead Secret Service agent and I did. I went to the makeup room to get him. The Secret Service agent was there. The agent stayed on stage, and I went up to watch from the staff room, because if anything had happened [the Secret Service] would have immediately gone into action, and the last thing they wanted was any staff people around when they were doing their job.
Stephanie Martin Taylor: Did you say anything like, “Good luck, Mr. Vice President?”
Boe Martin: Yeah, yeah -- you tried. But he wanted to be alone. So he was over on the side, and he would pace back and forth because he was going through his opening in his mind. So you didn’t interfere with him. But you smiled and gave him a thumbs-up.
Stephanie Martin Taylor: So you watched the debate with other Mondale campaign staffers?
Boe Martin: Yes, and it was interesting to watch the reactions to the various exchanges between the candidates and the moderators. And the remark that Reagan is famous for, the “age and experience” thing, played differently in the hall than it did on television. In the hall there was light laughter, but I don’t think anybody thought it was a particularly telling comment. And in the staff room, people were just saying, “Aww, gee. That’s just Reagan being corny.” It wasn’t until later that the impact of that was known, and it really wasn’t known until the next day. I think the general belief in the staff room was that Mondale had won the debate.
Stephanie Martin Taylor: There was a rally following the debate, wasn't there? I remember stopping by the hotel earlier in the day as you and campaign workers were blowing up balloons.
Boe Martin: Yes, that was at the old Muehlebach Hotel downtown. After the rally, Mondale came straight up to the hotel suite for the night. Then, we locked down that area, and the staff wandered around in the hotel for a while with the press down at the bar. Mainly just trying to figure out what they were saying and writing.
I remember Mrs. Mondale went to bed, and his staff wanted to go to bed or down to the bar, so I went and sat with him for a while in the living room of his suite. So, we sat there and watched the television replays and things.
Stephanie Martin Taylor: Just you two?
Boe Martin: Yeah, it was just the two of us for a while. We did that at the convention, too. And he kind of critiqued himself. You know, he said, “I should have been more forceful here,” or, “I thought I got my point across.” And he was pretty fair to Reagan. He thought that Reagan was much better.
Stephanie Martin Taylor: Are there any other memories that stand out?
Boe Martin: One thing I left out. On the afternoon before the debate, I went back to the Civic Center with another campaign staffer. We went back for one last walk-through, just the two of us.
Suddenly, I saw Secret Service agents coming in from the other side of the stage. And here comes President Reagan walking in. He’s looking around and they’re pointing things out to him, and he’s nodding. But he was one of these guys who was never off stage or off message. And he looked at us and saw the two of us just standing there, staring at him. We obviously weren’t with his group -- he could spot that by the way we were dressed (Republicans always wore suits and ties). His curiosity got the best of him.
Before we knew it, he was walking over, and he sticks out his hand and says, “I’m Ron Reagan!"
We introduce ourselves, and he says, “What are you boys doing here?”
And we said, “Well, we’re with Walter Mondale.”
And he said, “Fritz! (that was Mondale's nickname) He’s a good guy!”
Then, Reagan slapped us on the back and went on his way. (laughs)