Click on different points on the map below to see which counties would be part of each one of California’s six new states, as outlined in a proposed ballot initiative. Per capita income and population figures are listed for each “state,” based on an analysis by the California Legislative Analyst’s Office. The new jurisdictions underscore California’s extreme wealth disparities.

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Think California’s just too darn big for its own good? Well now there’s a strong likelihood you’ll get to vote on it.

A Silicon Valley venture capitalist today submitted what he claims are enough petition signatures to get his initiative, to split California into six states, on the 2016 statewide ballot.

And no, this is not a joke.

Menlo Park billionaire Tim Draper is hell-bent on slicing California up into bite-sized pieces. The nation’s largest state, he argues, is too massive to be effectively governed as a single body. He contends that dividing it into smaller states would yield more representative governments that could better meet the needs of a diverse population.

Since announcing his campaign in February, the Menlo Park billionaire has sunk more than a million dollars into collecting the 807,615 signatures needed to get the measure on the ballot. The Six Californias campaign, as it’s known, failed to meet the deadline for this November, but has more than enough signatures to qualify for 2016, Draper claims. But even if given the green light by election officials, and eventually approved by voters in 2016, the measure — a constitutional amendment — would still require congressional approval to take effect. And that’s a serious long-shot, to say the least.

Critics are quick to argue that this is just the latest profligate push in a perennial effort by wealthy communities to redistribute tax revenue locally to avoid subsidizing the state’s lower income regions.

It’s not the first attempt to slice up the largest state in the country: periodic efforts have been made since California gained statehood in 1850, including an ongoing push by some residents in far northern California to create a state called Jefferson that would include a few counties in southern Oregon. Like previous secessionist efforts, Draper’s campaign is a long shot, to say the least, and it poses an array of feasibility problems, including a vast reorganization of water and energy delivery systems, Congressional approval and the inevitable onslaught of fierce litigation. But the proposed borders are, nevertheless, worth taking a look at, as they highlight some of California’s extreme economic disparities as well as its uneven population distribution.

The gaps are underscored in California’s non-partisan Legislative Analyst’s analysis of the proposal. According to the report, the new state of Silicon Valley, which would encompass most of the Bay Area, Santa Clara County and parts of the Central Coast, would have the highest per capita income in the nation, out-ranking Connecticut (funny coincidence that Draper happens to reside here). Meanwhile, the neighboring state of Central California, encompassing mostly poor agricultural counties in the Central Valley, would be at the very bottom in per capita income, behind Mississippi.

If California Split into Six States, This Is What It Would Look Like 23 April,2015Matthew Green
  • BigWhiteDog

    1% trying to pull a fast one. He will get richer and the rest of the suckers will starve.

    • JaiGuru

      Actually forcing an insolvent state to stay whole only benefits the elite. This is actually a very novel way of dealing with this state’s inability to remain solvent. Spreading out the load over separate regions would be very useful and allow for partisanship in each of these states to fulfill the task in a meaningful manner.

      I’m not saying redistricting is going to be free of partisan problems. The old saying has been repeated and I’ll repeat it again: If you can’t win an election, redistrict. But that said, no administration in the last 15 years has made even a dent in California’s descent into insolvency. It truly is a failed state. Why should the rest of the nation bear this burden? We already have one Mississippi.

      • Liberius

        California as it is isn’t working, and this plan at least has the virtue of never having been tried.

        • Mitchell

          Failed state? I guess that’s why the richest state in the nation would be the Left Coast. “San Francisco County would be part of the new state of Silicon Valley: Per capita personal income: $63,288 (highest of any U.S. state).” These days, our biggest problems (and bitterest struggles) are by-products of prosperity — and of the huge numbers of people willing to pay through the nose to live here!

          Conversely, the Central Valley resembles Texas, politically and otherwise. You might like it there. Meanwhile, please keep your political advice to yourself, along with your definition of “failed potential.”

          Splitting the state might benefit the elite, but ironically, it would also give more representation to the very regions mired in failure.

          Then again, I suppose that indeed depends on what one means by failure. Unbalanced budgets and high taxes, or poverty and income inequality? I’d take the American economy (and politics) of 1964 over the 50-year decline that’s occurred since.

          • Liberius

            “Unbalanced budgets and high taxes, or poverty and income inequality?” In California, there’s not an or in that sentence. Some of the richest places in America are in California, as are some of the poorest. California leads the way in income inequality.

            I think a breakup would benefit areas that are neglected by the current state government, most especially the Central Valley and the “Jefferson” area by allowing them to structure their government to their realities and address their ongoing problems. I’d imagine the locals would prefer it to petitioning a state government that regularly neglects their needs to tend to the whims and wants of the coastal cities.

            Increased representation and the ability to act on their own needs may be exactly what’s needed to get those regions “mired in failure” out of their failure.

            Certainly, the status quo isn’t benefiting them at all.

          • Mitchell

            “In California, there’s not an or in that sentence.” Huh?

            Meanwhile, your Texas avatar and reference to Cato (as in Cato Institute) speaks volumes. If you love Texas, please stay there. I like it out here on the Left Coast, and I’m hardly alone. Meanwhile, please answer my observation about the Texas-style policies and priorities responsible for America’s decline since 1964.

            The current Governor’s father, Pat Brown (an arch-liberal from SF) created a California boom (with schools, highways, etc., that were the envy of the world). Ronald Reagan and Prop 13 ruined it.

            (Oh, now I see: not an “or.” Sorry, still no cigar: see preceding paragraph re the consequences of the right-wing obsession with balanced budgets and lowering taxes on the rich.)

          • Liberius

            The problem with high taxes on the rich is that the rich have the means to evade those taxes, and afford lawyers that can point out every possible loophole in those taxes… so you end up with millionaires and billionaires that have most of their fortunes in the Cayman Islands where US authorities can’t touch them, and the parts that they declare here net a much smaller tax yield.

            It’s on the order of 70% of one of those 6 inch Red Baron microwaveable pizzas vs. 30% of an extra large deep dish. A flatter, fairer, less convoluted tax structure with less carve-outs for special interests would make going to all of the inconvenience and expense of maintaining those tax lawyers and offshore accounts more of a hassle than it’s worth, and increase yields.

            As far as balanced budgets go, while there are things you can buy on credit that will increase your standard of living and competitiveness, not everything that you can buy on credit will do that. A civilian analogue would be buying a new F-250 to haul lawncare equipment so you can start a landscaping business, or buying a new BMW so you can ride around in style. The cost is about the same, but one will expand your means and the other will just be a drain on resources
            The problem is that governments love drains on resources and don’t spend a lot of money on expanding means. Until they show an ability to spend my money more wisely, I’m disinclined to give them more of it, or continue to allow them to buy stupid things on public credit.

          • Mitchell

            Well, we’re far afield from the initial discussion, but briefly: (1) I’m all for closing the tax loopholes currently available to the rich. That isn’t automatically a pretext for demanding that the tax system be made less progressive as some sort of perverse quid pro quo. (2) I don’t accept the notion that wealth is preferable to citizenship as a criterion for enfranchisement.

            “The law locks up the man or woman
            Who steals the goose off the common
            But leaves the greater villain loose
            Who steals the common from the goose.”

            As for what’s “stupid,” when one considers “private” denial of responsibility for externalities like pollution (and corporate immunity from liability) vs. public spending on infrastructure and education, I’m not convinced that private balance sheets are any more trustworthy than public ones as a source of wisdom for a polity.

          • Liberius

            There’s no such thing as a complete immunity from liability, corporations only protect their individual shareholders from liability by making the only valid target for lawsuits the corporation itself.

            Why is this? If you bought into a mutual fund that invested in, let’s just say, Starbucks, and one of their major ingredients was found to be a carcinogen on the level of asbestos a few years down the line, you’d be happy for that liability protection. Because without that liability protection, the mutual fund you invested in would be looted by ambulance chasers and your retirement would be adversely impacted by the actions of a company you never had any real control over.

            Now imagine if you owned a few dozen shares of Starbucks directly? Say goodbye to everything you’ve got.

            Without that kind of liability protection, business activity would stop because people are naturally risk-averse and wouldn’t take a chance in either owning or starting a business, because of the very real possibility that some event somewhere down the line might wipe out everything they’ve ever had.

          • Mitchell

            So be it. You’re acknowledging that the entire corporate notion of reality is an artifice (promulgated by government statute) designed to promote business activity. That reduces the “libertarian” obsession with property rights to its own form of rent-seeking and special pleading.

          • Paul

            Pat Brown created a boom….. oh my God the “boom” was the explosion of laughter at reading that delusional statement. Go ahead and delude yourself you ignorant proggie drone.

          • ELNIKO7

            Prop 13 is one of the greatest pieces of legislation to be passed in any State.

          • oaktown

            You do realize California has a balanced budget requirement in its state constitution?

          • Ryan

            I’m having fun listening to you to go back in forth with this. But why doesn’t any one make a big deal about the taxes on the middle class. I live in California and the idea that after making 2600 in two weeks just to have the Government come along and take a little more than 1000 dollars is ludicrous to me.

        • Dara

          Where do you California haters get your info anyway?? We expect a budget SURPLUS this year. The state leads the country in almost every aspect from technology to culture to fashion to cuisine trends. Do I detect a little envy here? We Californians are perfectly OK where we are and if you don’t like California, then we are also perfectly OK with you staying put in Texas or wherever you happen to be!

          • latxguy

            Why do you not do your research and you may find this information is there to be found.

          • Ryan

            Well then dara why don’t you send some of that growth and wealth down here in socal. Get out of your tiny box and see that the state is dying their are only the rich and the poor. The middle class is being crushed.

        • CaliGirl

          You live in Texas. Let’s slice up your state first before you go deciding what is best for us.

  • Dolly

    This is beyond stupid! If they are so set on splitting up why not do north and south almost like Virginia and West Virginia but to split in 6 is over kill. I believe it would cause more problem then it would solve.

  • mommadona

    What bullshit

  • K.T.

    California should stay as one and secede from the union. It’s the United States that is too massive to be an effective governing body.

    • sjames

      I wouldnt mind if Cali were to secede. They are currently sucking other states dry. I think that if there is a split, It should only be broken into 2-3 chunks.
      The US is ineffective, but California is THE prime example of a failed state: loads of resources, tons of beaches, huge population, international fame yet they can’t balance a budget.

      • Mitchell

        I guess that’s why the richest state in the nation would be the Left Coast. If you think we’re a failed state, move to Texas. We won’t miss you!

        • sjames

          ” the richest state in the nation would be the Left Coast.”
          lol. Not sure where you get that idea. Forbes and HuffPost cite studies showing California debt passing 1 trillion! Remember when the governator considered selling the state prisons?
          According to the OCregister, Cali leads the US in public debt. Until you guys can learn to elect people who can control spending and balance a budget, you will be a laughing stock and example of failed potential.

          • Mitchell

            “San Francisco County would be part of the new state of Silicon Valley. State of Silicon Valley: Per capita personal income: $63,288 (highest of any U.S. state).”

            Please keep your election advice to yourself, along with your definition of “failed potential.” These days, our biggest problems (and bitterest struggles) are by-products of the huge numbers of people willing to pay through the nose to live here!

          • sjames

            Next sentence: “Meanwhile, the neighboring state of Central California, encompassing mostly poor agricultural counties in the Central Valley, would be at the very bottom in per capita income, behind Mississippi.”

            You can keep telling yourself that the state has no problems, but you’re only fooling yourself.

          • Mitchell

            I said “the Left Coast,” dummy! Conversely, the Central Valley resembles Texas, politically and otherwise. You might like it there.

          • sjames

            Sorry, “dummy” but I don’t see “Left Coast” listed anywhere as it’s own state. If you meant “Silicon Valley” then obviously you would have said it.
            Why are you so against Texas (btw, I’ve never even been to Texas) but I highly doubt that “central valley” even closely relates to Texas, especially considering how rich and prosperous Texas is.
            Are you so anti-Texas out of jealousy, ignorance or just because? I’m anti-big budget California because it affects people in other states.

          • Mary Hanner

            I think we should sell Texas to China to pay off our debt to China. Texans always yap about leaving the union. Let them go.

          • sjames

            Sadly, Texas would be the only state close enough to even consider that. California sure wouldn’t. China would probably pay us to keep it.

          • latxguy

            you are failing to look at the cost of living . Ignorning home prices, food, gas and state tax. Texas state tax is lets see; ZERO!! I am actually from Connecticut and would challenge that you are at the highest per capita personal income. Try looking at Darian, New Canaan, Lyme, Greenwich, Easton and so on before throwing your California BS or even Westchester NY and Maryland. OOPS !! Guess your not #1 or even 10!

          • latxguy

            recheck your figures! You are way off the mark and California is 10th in the nation per capita. There are many counties far above the Silicon valley. More CA BS!! Your Silicon would not be first in Texas never mind Alaska, Florida, Connecticut, NJ, NY, Maryland and many other states. California does have some of the lowest though!

        • latxguy

          Actually Texas is the one state or few that has a balanced budget fool. It also has the top High schools in the country but then you probably never visited them and some of the best universities in the nation. Ignorance fits you well! California has the greatest debit. lol.

      • oaktown

        You do realize that California has a balanced budget requirement in our state constitution?

  • Keith Tyler

    On the map on the website, Colusa Co is in North California and not Jefferson.

  • Jared Barney

    I could see 2 or 3 states but six is ridiculous i could see jefferson, north and central together. Then pair west, south, and silicon together.

  • Best idea I have heard in a long time. I will be moving to Jefferson ASAP.

  • Ngallendou

    Six is too many. Two could win sufficient support, three less so. There are two main motives in subdividing states, as they do every few years in India: (a) keep state governments weaker than a central government, and (b) stop taxing the rich to support the poor. The net effect proves even more burdensome, for the population must now support two legislatures, two bureaucracies and two Corrections Corps contracts.

  • gigi

    This will not happen anytime soon. I guarantee in five years this will be a forgotten topic.

  • BigArf47

    I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and knew California as California. We were a state with everything from sandy beaches, tall redwoods, agricultural industries, snow capped mountains and desert lands. To divide such a great state does not make sense! We never saw San Francisco as Northern California and Los Angeles as Southern California….just California! Why some rich guy in Silicon Valley thinks it’s a great idea proves that he either will personally benefit from such a move both financially and fame wise, or, it is an attempt to put places such as Silicon Valley on top of all the other so-called ‘Californias’ that would result. Then, what would happen to the national political landscape? How many capitals would there be? Did anyone ask Californians about how they really feel about all this? I think that some poeple have too much time on their hands and should focus on important issues, such as the economy, education, overcrowding in prisons, immigration reform, the crisis in the Ukraine, along with much much more! Trying to slice up the Golden State like a sausage will not accomplish much and cuase more harm than good!!

    • Emily Tenorio

      I agree with you! Splitting California wont help anything. California has been one of the richest states of the US, beating NY.

    • CaliGirl

      I live in the San Fernando Valley and agree with you 100%. This is nothing but gerrymandering in hopes of effecting the out come of future elections. And 807,615 is all it took to get this on a ballot? Really? There are over 9 million people in the Los Angeles County alone. California has over 38 million people in it. You mean to tell me barely over 2% of us is all it takes to get something this huge on the ballot? Does this billionaire plan to put up the money it will take to solve all the issues this will cause, not the least of which being how to provide water to the 2nd largest city in the US?

    • lilmookie

      The resulting water rights dispute alone would cripple the national economy.

  • Pinay60

    So will each state have their own Army and Air National Guard Units? Or, how about six California Highway Patrol agencies?

    • KellyJ

      Why not. Vermont has their own Guard and Patrol forces, as does Rhode Island and CT, Mass, Maine, etc. The difference being the existing infrastructure, personnel, and equipment would be split up based on the current geographic region where they are located. It would then be up to whatever Laws and Regs the “new” State Governments set up to operate and maintain those resources.
      IF this goes through (and the US Congress approves), the hard work will actually begin. Writing a new State Constitution. Setting up the new buearacracies. Deciding on new regional Capital Cities. Construction of same. Determining how many Representatives of each type, the voting districts, Terms of Office. Elections. Installing new Governors and his Cabinet (even deciding what Cabinet positions we think are required). Drafting Laws and Regs. Setting up new Courts and electing Judges. Creating new Tax Law and the infrastructure to collect that. DMVs, School Boards, Prisons, even how the Lottery will operate. Not to mention any tribal lands that end up split between State lines. And then you have the issue of the States current debt…how will that get split up to the new States?
      And then comes National Elections to select new Reps and Senators and everything that entails.
      This is not an easy thing and even after a YES vote is complete and the Congress says YES…it may take several years to complete the documentation to initiate the process. The Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776, but the Constitution was not Ratified until 1790…14 years from splitting off to having a final document of Governance complete.

      • Pinay60

        Thanks, I was still thinking of “ONE” California, and not six separate states.

  • Justin Waters

    This would increase California’s number of Federal Senators from 2 to 12! This idea makes a lot of sense if the people of California want a representative government. Every highly populated state should consider splitting into smaller states to increase political representation for their people.

  • Joanne

    Okay that would make 55 states still short of Obama’s 57 states.

  • patriot1789

    And shortly after the split:

    Ethnic Mexicans (remember the ethnic Albanians?) living in South California petition the UN that they are oppressed and want to secede from the U.S.a. Followed by West California.

    Failure to “allow” the seccession will result in the UN attacking the US. History will repeat.

    Overall, I would prefer California as it is.

    • ReadyToMoveOn

      You make it sound like the secession would be a BAD thing! Personally, I think if California and New York both would leave the Union, it would be the best thing that could happen to the rest of the country!

      • patriot1789

        I think that we Americans do not need another 1,2 or 3 “countries” on our borders. The current US / Mexico border is shorter and easier to secure. That is if anyone in the government actually would take steps to secure it.

  • labman57

    Once again, tea-chugging extremists who are unable to cram their right wing policy proposals down the throats of the more moderate Californian electorate conclude that they no longer want to be part of the state. And so in an act of self-serving faux patriotism, they are attempting to create their own little havens of like-minded racially-intolerant, avaricious, socially-regressive knuckleheads.

    Hmmm. Should this foolhardy, highly improbable attempt at multiple-statehood be approved by all of the powers that be, make it onto the ballot, get approved by the electorate, survive the inevitable court challenges, and actually come to pass …

    … shall we count how long it takes for these short-sighted, narrow-minded fools and their newly elected representatives to appeal to the federal government for massive subsidies and other financial support?

  • Myles Garcia

    Sorry. Am not going with name “Silicon Valley” for that section. Will fight it tooth and nail. And the other 5 slices are as unimaginatively named. Just ANOTHER item to clutter up the November ballot…where it will go down in RESOUNDING defeat.

  • Jeff Johnson

    “North California” needs to stop at Placerville. Lake Tahoe belongs to the people that live in the mountains. It should belong to Jefferson or Central California.

    • dgh

      If Lake Tahoe’s counties go to the new state of Jefferson, then Jefferson elects Democrats. I don’t think the right wing libertarian who sketched these boundaries would like that, and he’s richer than you. So no.
      This is a very expensive exercise in indulging the whims of a billionaire, anyway. Never, never, never gonna happen. But if it was, per Tim Draper’s “six flavors is better than two” idiocy, I say we split into 140 little Rhode Islands of equal physical size. Smaller is better and more manageable, right? Of course some of them would be so empty of people they’d have to elect rattlesnakes to Congress. But those parts of CA usually already do that.

  • Katie

    Great plan (not) but who do you think would be paying for all new maps to be created? New textbooks for not just California but every State that would have a now inaccurate map of California. Not to mention new driver’s licenses for everyone. Every legal document for the state of California would have to be rewritten. New governments would have to be formed! It would be a nightmare and would only serve to cost Americans more money and make our growing debt (and other problems) worse.

  • xderloin

    Vacaville, Fairfield and Vallejo must be the official DMZ. Zoom in on yourselves dudes. I guess no one wants you as part of their state. Perhaps we’ll give you back to Mexico? It’s not you, guys. It’s us.

  • Roo O’Donnell

    I vote that the LAPD be given national guard status in South California! *Sarcasm*

    I guess San Francisco would have a catchy new abbreviation to put on tshirts… #SFSV

  • Steve Redmond

    It wold look like a real bi mess. Better for California to become an independent country. Much better and much wiser.

  • George Ortiz

    Draper proposition is going to further split the Conservative East and limit our voice in congress. There are worlds difference from people who live in Riverside County and those who live in San Diego. I want no part of this proposition unless it is all Eastern and Western California, otherwise we will be under the hand of of more liberals from San Diego County.

  • csrima

    Has anybody seen a list of most populous cities in each state and/or logical “Capital” cities in the highly unlikely event that this actually occurs? It’d be interesting to see what was done with Jefferson. Is Redding the capital? Chico? A small coastal city that they’d want to put resources into developing?

    I’d assume that other capitals would be Sacramento, San Diego, LA, San Jose/San Francisco, maybe Bakersfield?

    • csrima

      As a history nerd, it would be pretty cool to be able to witness in real-time the formation of new states, and all the political maneuvering involved.

      Would the balance of power shift from south to north? Would capitals be based on population bases or would proximity to the more powerful regional cities (LA, San Fran) trump that? How would it affect national elections?

    • SuBe

      You asked, “Maybe Bakersfield” for capitol of Central California?
      Bakersfield has a population of less than 348,000. Fresno has a population of 495,000 and is centrally located for a potential new state. The proximity of Bakersfield to Los Angeles has given it benefits over the rest of Central CA, but the value of that proximity would be greatly downgraded in the proposed 6 state break-up.

      • csrima

        I’m not sure that centrality and population are the biggest factors in deciding State Capitols. There are many states with Capitols that are located in a non-central location while not being the most populous. Sacramento is one example.

        In fact, (without taking the time to dig into it) I’d wager that the majority of states have Capitols that are either not in a central location, or not the most populous in the state, and in many times both.

  • Thedude3445

    I think the plan would be much better if it were Five Californias and if Silicon Valley/Central California were united.

  • Emily Tenorio

    Splitting CA is just bull. If the govt and Tim Draper thinks this will work, he is wrong. Jefferson will be the only successful pieces out of the six. Los Angeles, Compton, San Diego or “West California” will be in crumbles. Even though celebrities live there and a very touristic area, it also has its ugly side such as smuggling drugs, prostitution an illegal immigrants.

  • Dennis Myers

    Most of the names really suck. Here are some suggestions that might work better. I have included proposed postal codes.

    JE – Jefferson
    EL – Eldorado (North)
    SE – Secoya (Silicon Valley)
    SI – Sierra (Central)
    TI – Tierra de Los Angeles (West)
    SL – Silverado (South)

    Secoya is the Spanish word for redwood. Tierra de Los Angeles means Land of Angels. Silverado seemed obvious as did Eldorado.

  • Tjwag

    “California leads the pack with $778 billion in state debt, mostly as a result of the state’s $584 billion unfunded public pension liability.”
    Just throwing this in there…..

  • Truth

    It would never happen put i would love to just see this county split right down the middle. Dems one side and Repulicans on the other.

  • CaliConservatives

    This rich Liberal-moron just wants Silicon Valley to break off and leave L.A. and San Diego with the burden of caring for all the Illegals and Welfare citizens which they caused int he first place. They have been pushing extremely hard for open borders, welfare etc. The Commy-like Professors, Feminazis and Ecoterrorists…. don’t even get me started. The moral fabric is being severely injured in our great country and already died in CA.They think they can win more elections this way. I love this state, but Politicians have ruined it. It is ugly, run-down, our money is thrown away via fraud and skeleton socialist programs which don’t do anything, yet still receive funding. CA still makes the most $ of all the states yet it is going broke. It is our fault… we elect the morons. Start voting with your head, your pocket book, and with your future and kids futures in mind. We have to get back to smaller Gov’t, and opportunity for all. Freedom. True freedom. Now we have a soft Tyranny and getting worse. Right now I want to be in TX, UT, MT, ND or AZ. I still have faith though. This is another trick and I hope the Californians do not fall for it. Jerry Brown is bad news too. He is trying to hand California over to Mexico. Yet Mexicans are trying to come here…. such a Liberal Drone. Democrats are now Socialists and Republicans are now Liberals… wtf?
    I am 27, in debt from college and my generation is starting to wake up a bit finally. I am this young and I see it… hope you do too.
    God Bless.


    The idea of California being split into different States is not in itself a bad idea. The proposed idea though of splitting California into a total of 6 States, including one land-locked State, is bad.
    California is the third largest land mass State and number one in population. With this in mind, it is ridiculous to believe that California is a cohesive, unified State. She is not.
    Northern California (the State of Jefferson) is culturally different than the rest of the entire State. Much of this is due to the geography of that area, leading to a more independent, although not necessarily conservative, streak.
    An example of this is gun ownership and the view of guns in the north compared to the rest of the State.
    While the rest of the State (with the exception of the Central Valley) is hellbent on making ownership of guns as hard as possible, the State of Jefferson seems to be doing just fine with gun ownership, with teens having guns, with the general population having guns.
    Why is the State of Jefferson made to suffer because of the actions of gangs in Los Angeles and the attitude of preppey, wealthy, snobbish East Coast transplants in the Bay Area?
    Split the counties of Sonomo, Napa, Yolo, Amador and El Dorado and then north to Oregon to become the State of Jefferson.
    Take the counties of San Francisco, San Mateo, Alameda, Contra Costa, Solano and Marin, let them be there own State, it could be the State of Pacifica. In reality, if the rest of the State could get rid of just those counties, especially San Francisco and Marin, the entire State would be way better off.
    Have Los Angeles and San Bernardino down to Mexico be there own State, it could be the State of Angeles, or Aztlan, I’m for freedom, let them choose their own name.
    Then take all the other counties, Ventura, Santa Barbara, SLO, Kern, Inyo (east to Nevada) and then north to Santa Cruz, Santa Clara, San Joaquin, Sacramento, Calaveras and Alpine, and the counties in between (the San Joaquin Valley), and let this continue to be called California.
    This way, every State will continue to have cities of business (San Diego and the LA metro area, along with Orange County) for “southern California”; Santa Barbara, Fresno, Bakersfield, Monterey and Sacramento for California; the Bay Area as a whole for Pacifica; and the State of Jefferson, although not overly large, there is Redding and Yreka, but that’s fine because the people of the State of Jefferson are ok with this, it’s not being pushed on them by anyone else.
    Furthermore, each State would have a deep-water seaport, major airports, universities, National Parks, railways and agriculture, but most of all, each of these areas are culturally different than the others, so each would be able to better respond and respect their constituents.
    As things are now, the people of the Bay Area pretty much look down on the entire rest of the State and although both the Bay Area and the LA metro area vote heavily Democratic, there is nothing in common between the two areas. One thing for the Bay Area to consider is that once the State’s Hispanics become more politically active, it is not going to be so good for the Bay Area. LA’s Hispanics are Democrat but have nearly nothing socially comparable to the Bay Area.
    Anyway, as a born and raised Californian, as someone who’s family has been in California since the late 1800’s, I do believe that the dividing up of California into separate States would better serve the people of California.
    I do not believe that the people of Fresno, or Tulare, or Selma, or Bakersfield should dictate how the people in San Francisco should live and vice versa. That is not the case though.
    More and more, the Bay Area dictates to the rest of the State what is right, what is wrong, what is permissible and not permissible, there is no true representation in the State Legislature, it doesn’t matter how many folks from the Valley are sent to Sacramento, if they speak up in defense of their constituents, they are first degraded and then ignored by their so-called fellow Californians from the Bay Area.
    Just as Ohio and (most of) Washington, DC, came from Virginia, and Maine from Massachusetts, and just as Czechoslovakia peacefully split into two separate counties, so too could California be split into 4 separate States.

    • ELNIKO7

      Additionally, both Fresno and Santa Barbara Counties should be split. There’s no reason for Santa Maria to be part of Santa Barbara, and most of Fresno County west of Fresno, the 41 and 99, from Easton to Kings County and north to Madera County (Raymond) could be split from the rest of Fresno County. Not that Fresno County is bad per say, but this would do more to preserve the agriculture economies of those areas and of the State.

  • S.B.

    The central agricultural part of the state would have lower per capita income? It already does and has forever! So this would change this how?

    Those in wealthy areas fear that the Valley is siphoning off valuable resources they prefer to stay close to home? Really?! Drive some of our back roads and say this! Big city money doesn’t trickle down to here. The Valley may be your breadbasket when you go to the market, but otherwise remains the b@stard stepchild of the state. Our lack of population density does not afford enough representation for us to have a real voice, yet we are still taxed for things our urban kin value but which have zero benefit to us. All the while our fuel taxes have been getting siphoned off to other uses deemed more important by those whose luxury cars never see potholes.

    I welcome secession! We will have what we will have, same as always, but at least this way we have a chance to have a voice and have leadership which won’t summarily ignore us and look down upon us as the urban elites have been for decades.

    This secession thing cannot happen fast enough!

    • SuBe

      As a resident of the central valley, I wonder if the rest of the State ever thinks about where its water comes from? LA Basin doesn’t produce any water and neither does the Bay area. Perhaps one of the things a new Central CA state would need to do is cut off the water supply to the rest of the State. Water is going to be the new gold rush, at least in this State.

  • You

    “Menlo Park billionaire Tim Draper is hell-bent on slicing California up into bite-sized pieces. The nation’s largest state, he argues, is too massive to be effectively governed as a single body. He contends that dividing it into smaller states would yield more representative governments that could better meet the needs of a diverse population.”……

    Apparently we need more lol

  • Dee Gee

    I know this is old news, not saying the movement is dead however, this is a bad idea. Republicans think this will give more voting representation for their party? Well, think again. The following proposed states: Silicon Valley, North, West, and South California would be liberal states. That would leave the proposed Jefferson and Central California for conservatives.

    However, I am not trying to persuade anyone to vote for this. California is in deep debt. If the state were to divide like this not only would we still be in debt, but we would also have lower pay.

    Do you really want to live like Mississippi? Our GDP would be less than theirs. Do you want your education and health care to be cut by 80%? It is a mere joke. All the rural communities are afraid of urbanization which they have a right to be however, urbanization is inevitable.

    The only proposed state that would never go through any kind of cuts is the proposed state of Silicon Valley. No cuts to their education or health care. The way to get out of the state debt is many things, but you also need to have a healthy economy especially in this system. (Which means expanding cities, bringing more employment, etc..) Another words, urbanization.

    That would bring even more chaos. Each state’s capital would be the biggest city.

    Here in our current state, there needs to be a realization that California is not a state but a nation state. Were diverse, and have a diverse economy. California’s status needs to be respected as a nation. We have the responsibility to get out of the state debt and fix the many other problems.

    Draper’s plan is clear, he wants to make the bay area the United States wealthiest gated community.

    So stop voting with your egos and being key board warriors, it is pathetic.

  • Alexandra S

    Sorry, but the Silicon Valley does too much business with Central California, so they would eventually have to go in with them. They are much too small to make it on their own. Also if I had to live anywhere in the six new states it would definitely be in the Central part. Because almost all the forests, prairies, desserts, and beautiful mountains are there.

  • Debbie Burns

    Hey everyone , they said california is going to break off into the ocean and millions will be wiped out , in the earthquake that will hit . Along with all your water disappearing . I Lived in CA. from 12- 16 years old , and will miss it dearly , but i say split up the 38 million people between 50 states and move – oh and bring another 30 million from south america , and we will be snuggly snuggly 🙂

  • Debbie Burns

    oops it would be 49 remaining states 🙂 that would be about 750 thousand to each state from califor NI A — 🙂 and another 500,000 from south america !! Hot Doggies 🙂 🙂

  • More diversity… more multiculturalism. Divide the house so that it falls. Perhaps a better country can be created that is not in the throes of full-scale class warfare where an elite class uses multiculturalism and diversity as a weapon to divide and conquer the masses of common folks.


Matthew Green

Matthew Green produces and edits The Lowdown, KQED’s multimedia news education blog, an online resource for educators and the general public. He previously taught journalism at Fremont High School in East Oakland, and has written for numerous local publications, including the Oakland Tribune and San Francisco Chronicle. Email:; Twitter: @KQEDlowdown

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