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In fact, he admits \"the jury is still out\" on the efficacy of so-called brain-training.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're not out there saying that there are direct benefits to it. We're not out there saying anything other than, 'Hey you know, this is something, give it a try.' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">\"We're not out there saying anything other than, 'Hey you know, this is something, give it a try.' \"\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Lumos, based in San Francisco, was recently slammed by the Federal Trade Commission for deceptive advertising. \"Lumosity preyed on consumers’ fears about age-related cognitive decline, suggesting their games could stave off memory loss, dementia, and even Alzheimer’s disease,” the FTC said. “But Lumosity simply did not have the science to back up its ads.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"pkXcCDOpysj05BqIY91OSL0YKzMO6UeP\"]Berkowitz's comments came in an interview with KQED Wednesday, a couple of weeks after the FTC announced Lumos would pay a $2 million penalty that would go to partial refunds to Lumosity customers. These users pay $14.95 per month or $299.95 per year to play games intended to improve memory, attention and other cognitive abilities, as well as potentially ward off maladies of aging like dementia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CEO said the company had \"pivoted\" to becoming a research platform for the study of cognitive training and that it wanted to put together a coalition of stakeholders in industry and academia to create guidelines and standards for future studies in the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The foundation of all of this stuff is that it's new,\" he said. \"Any new industry is divisive and creates debate. And I think that's the good news about innovation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lumosity: Rapid Growth ... and Controversial\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A little history:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lumos Labs was founded in 2005 by \u003ca href=\"http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/03/founder-stories-lumositys-mike-scanlon-on-exercising-the-brain/\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Scanlon\u003c/a>, a Stanford Ph.D. student in neuroscience, David Drescher and Kunal Sarkar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea was to create an online training program for your brain, leveraging research in \u003ca href=\"https://www.google.com/search?q=neuroplasticity\" target=\"_blank\">neuroplasticity \u003c/a>-- the mutable quality of the brain -- that showed the possibility of enhanced cognition through changing environment. In 2007, the company launched Lumosity, a website where you could exercise your brain by playing games and -- so its advertising went -- improve your memory, attention and other mental abilities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By 2013, the company had \u003ca href=\"http://www.forbes.com/companies/lumosity/\" target=\"_blank\">made it onto Forbes’ list\u003c/a> of America’s Most Promising Companies, capitalizing on a brain-training \u003ca href=\"http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/products/story/2011-08-24/Brain-training-games-are-new-exercise-craze/50125152/1\" target=\"_blank\">craze \u003c/a>and earning rave reviews in the \u003ca href=\"http://www.inc.com/magazine/201312/robin-schatz/from-research-lab-to-market-leader-in-no-time.html\" target=\"_blank\">business press\u003c/a>. In 2014, CNN Health \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/09/health/brain-training-apps/\" target=\"_blank\">published a report\u003c/a> that rated Lumosity the best app to train your brain. More than 70 million people in 182 countries have played its games, Lumosity says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As it grew, the company marketed itself on TV, radio and online. (In fact, the public radio audience has been one of its target audiences, as listeners can attest.) The general thrust of the ads was that Lumosity could “improve key skills and affect quality of life\" and that “healthy people have (used) brain training to sharpen their daily lives and ward off cognitive decline.” It published “success stories” on its website, including wide-eyed testimonials like this:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In 2007, we learned that my mother had early onset Alzheimer’s. I joined Lumosity at first for my mother. I now use this site not only for her, but for my brain as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not everyone was on board. \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22708717\" target=\"_blank\">Researchers \u003c/a>studying the topic found \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22708717\" target=\"_blank\">little to no evidence\u003c/a> of sustained cognitive benefits from such exercises. Some studies determined they did \u003ca href=\"http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289612000839\" target=\"_blank\">little more\u003c/a> than improve an ability to perform the narrow task a player was accessing in each game. In 2014, the Stanford Center on Longevity issued “\u003ca href=\"http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus-on-the-brain-training-industry-from-the-scientific-community-2/\" target=\"_blank\">A Consensus on the Brain Training Industry From the Scientific Community\u003c/a>,” signed by dozens of scientists in the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To date, there is little evidence that playing brain games improves underlying broad cognitive abilities,” the analysis said, “or that it enables one to better navigate a complex realm of everyday life.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, many researchers believe that although brain-training companies have greatly exaggerated the benefits of their products, \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2016/01/15/lumosity-cant-prove-claims-say-scientists-but-brain-training-worth-researching/\" target=\"_blank\">further study in the field is warranted\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the government did not feel the need to wait for the final verdict. It wanted Lumos to pay $50 million in redress, but \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2016/01/05/federal-court-orders-lumosity-to-stop-claiming-games-prevent-dementia/\" target=\"_blank\">settled for $2 million\u003c/a> after reviewing the company's finances. It also required Lumosity to notify customers it had settled “a deceptive advertising lawsuit” and provide a link to turn off auto-renewal of subscriptions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>'Passionate About the Product'\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the interview Wednesday, Berkowitz, who has only been on the job since November, seemed eager to distance the company from the controversial claims it has made in the past, and also renounce any notion that a product like Lumosity could be a panacea for the brain's inevitable decline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's never been a driver of this company, to be some health-related solution,” Berkowitz said. “As we go back and look at the kind of reasons why we're building the product, it really is to bring the idea of science back out to people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the type of hyperbolic language the FTC cited had been removed in 2014, before the FTC was involved, and was in any event \"a very small piece\" of the company's marketing. He likened the customer testimonials to which the FTC objected (you can \u003ca href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130112214959/http://www.lumosity.com/why-lumosity/success-stories\" target=\"_blank\">still see some of those here\u003c/a>, on the Internet Archive's WayBack Machine) to the user-generated reviews on Apple's App Store or Google Play.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These are things run by those companies and are independent,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But didn't Lumosity choose to publish those particular testimonials?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was on the website. So if you call it choosing to run it, yeah. Today, they're not up there.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The FTC also slammed Lumosity for soliciting users' success stories by offering prizes, without disclosing this fact on its site. Berkowitz attributed such problematic marketing decisions to growing pains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As a young company, what you're doing, people are very passionate about the product,\" he said. Now \"we're focusing on making sure that the things that we're doing have a basis in fact.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As to the question of how many of his customers had availed themselves of the FTC-mandated option to cancel their auto-renewal, he said, \"We've had some, but I think nothing's been outside of our expectation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last August, market research firm MarketsandMarkets \u003ca href=\"http://www.marketsandmarkets.com/Market-Reports/cognitive-assessment-market-1039.html\" target=\"_blank\">predicted\u003c/a> that the cognitive assessment and training market will grow from $2.4 billion in 2015 to $7.5 billion by 2020.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether that number will have to be reassessed due to consumer doubt is anyone's guess.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"After company's $2 million settlement with the FTC for deceptive advertising, Steve Berkowitz says Lumosity focused on becoming research platform.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1453504687,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":31,"wordCount":1199},"headData":{"title":"Lumosity CEO Admits Brain-Training Games May Not Ward Off Mental Decline | KQED","description":"After company's $2 million settlement with the FTC for deceptive advertising, Steve Berkowitz says Lumosity focused on becoming research platform.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Lumosity CEO Admits Brain-Training Games May Not Ward Off Mental Decline","datePublished":"2016-01-22T01:00:22.000Z","dateModified":"2016-01-22T23:18:07.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"100995 http://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/?p=100995","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2016/01/21/lumosity-ceo-admits-brain-training-games-may-produce-no-direct-benefits/","disqusTitle":"Lumosity CEO Admits Brain-Training Games May Not Ward Off Mental Decline","path":"/futureofyou/100995/lumosity-ceo-admits-brain-training-games-may-produce-no-direct-benefits","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Lumos Labs CEO Steve Berkowitz says his company is no longer making claims that its suite of cognitive training games can make your brain healthier. In fact, he admits \"the jury is still out\" on the efficacy of so-called brain-training.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're not out there saying that there are direct benefits to it. We're not out there saying anything other than, 'Hey you know, this is something, give it a try.' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">\"We're not out there saying anything other than, 'Hey you know, this is something, give it a try.' \"\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Lumos, based in San Francisco, was recently slammed by the Federal Trade Commission for deceptive advertising. \"Lumosity preyed on consumers’ fears about age-related cognitive decline, suggesting their games could stave off memory loss, dementia, and even Alzheimer’s disease,” the FTC said. “But Lumosity simply did not have the science to back up its ads.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>Berkowitz's comments came in an interview with KQED Wednesday, a couple of weeks after the FTC announced Lumos would pay a $2 million penalty that would go to partial refunds to Lumosity customers. These users pay $14.95 per month or $299.95 per year to play games intended to improve memory, attention and other cognitive abilities, as well as potentially ward off maladies of aging like dementia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CEO said the company had \"pivoted\" to becoming a research platform for the study of cognitive training and that it wanted to put together a coalition of stakeholders in industry and academia to create guidelines and standards for future studies in the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The foundation of all of this stuff is that it's new,\" he said. \"Any new industry is divisive and creates debate. And I think that's the good news about innovation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lumosity: Rapid Growth ... and Controversial\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A little history:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lumos Labs was founded in 2005 by \u003ca href=\"http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/03/founder-stories-lumositys-mike-scanlon-on-exercising-the-brain/\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Scanlon\u003c/a>, a Stanford Ph.D. student in neuroscience, David Drescher and Kunal Sarkar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea was to create an online training program for your brain, leveraging research in \u003ca href=\"https://www.google.com/search?q=neuroplasticity\" target=\"_blank\">neuroplasticity \u003c/a>-- the mutable quality of the brain -- that showed the possibility of enhanced cognition through changing environment. In 2007, the company launched Lumosity, a website where you could exercise your brain by playing games and -- so its advertising went -- improve your memory, attention and other mental abilities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By 2013, the company had \u003ca href=\"http://www.forbes.com/companies/lumosity/\" target=\"_blank\">made it onto Forbes’ list\u003c/a> of America’s Most Promising Companies, capitalizing on a brain-training \u003ca href=\"http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/products/story/2011-08-24/Brain-training-games-are-new-exercise-craze/50125152/1\" target=\"_blank\">craze \u003c/a>and earning rave reviews in the \u003ca href=\"http://www.inc.com/magazine/201312/robin-schatz/from-research-lab-to-market-leader-in-no-time.html\" target=\"_blank\">business press\u003c/a>. In 2014, CNN Health \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/09/health/brain-training-apps/\" target=\"_blank\">published a report\u003c/a> that rated Lumosity the best app to train your brain. More than 70 million people in 182 countries have played its games, Lumosity says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As it grew, the company marketed itself on TV, radio and online. (In fact, the public radio audience has been one of its target audiences, as listeners can attest.) The general thrust of the ads was that Lumosity could “improve key skills and affect quality of life\" and that “healthy people have (used) brain training to sharpen their daily lives and ward off cognitive decline.” It published “success stories” on its website, including wide-eyed testimonials like this:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In 2007, we learned that my mother had early onset Alzheimer’s. I joined Lumosity at first for my mother. I now use this site not only for her, but for my brain as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not everyone was on board. \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22708717\" target=\"_blank\">Researchers \u003c/a>studying the topic found \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22708717\" target=\"_blank\">little to no evidence\u003c/a> of sustained cognitive benefits from such exercises. Some studies determined they did \u003ca href=\"http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289612000839\" target=\"_blank\">little more\u003c/a> than improve an ability to perform the narrow task a player was accessing in each game. In 2014, the Stanford Center on Longevity issued “\u003ca href=\"http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus-on-the-brain-training-industry-from-the-scientific-community-2/\" target=\"_blank\">A Consensus on the Brain Training Industry From the Scientific Community\u003c/a>,” signed by dozens of scientists in the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To date, there is little evidence that playing brain games improves underlying broad cognitive abilities,” the analysis said, “or that it enables one to better navigate a complex realm of everyday life.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, many researchers believe that although brain-training companies have greatly exaggerated the benefits of their products, \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2016/01/15/lumosity-cant-prove-claims-say-scientists-but-brain-training-worth-researching/\" target=\"_blank\">further study in the field is warranted\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the government did not feel the need to wait for the final verdict. It wanted Lumos to pay $50 million in redress, but \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2016/01/05/federal-court-orders-lumosity-to-stop-claiming-games-prevent-dementia/\" target=\"_blank\">settled for $2 million\u003c/a> after reviewing the company's finances. It also required Lumosity to notify customers it had settled “a deceptive advertising lawsuit” and provide a link to turn off auto-renewal of subscriptions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>'Passionate About the Product'\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the interview Wednesday, Berkowitz, who has only been on the job since November, seemed eager to distance the company from the controversial claims it has made in the past, and also renounce any notion that a product like Lumosity could be a panacea for the brain's inevitable decline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's never been a driver of this company, to be some health-related solution,” Berkowitz said. “As we go back and look at the kind of reasons why we're building the product, it really is to bring the idea of science back out to people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the type of hyperbolic language the FTC cited had been removed in 2014, before the FTC was involved, and was in any event \"a very small piece\" of the company's marketing. He likened the customer testimonials to which the FTC objected (you can \u003ca href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130112214959/http://www.lumosity.com/why-lumosity/success-stories\" target=\"_blank\">still see some of those here\u003c/a>, on the Internet Archive's WayBack Machine) to the user-generated reviews on Apple's App Store or Google Play.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These are things run by those companies and are independent,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But didn't Lumosity choose to publish those particular testimonials?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was on the website. So if you call it choosing to run it, yeah. Today, they're not up there.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The FTC also slammed Lumosity for soliciting users' success stories by offering prizes, without disclosing this fact on its site. Berkowitz attributed such problematic marketing decisions to growing pains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As a young company, what you're doing, people are very passionate about the product,\" he said. Now \"we're focusing on making sure that the things that we're doing have a basis in fact.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As to the question of how many of his customers had availed themselves of the FTC-mandated option to cancel their auto-renewal, he said, \"We've had some, but I think nothing's been outside of our expectation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last August, market research firm MarketsandMarkets \u003ca href=\"http://www.marketsandmarkets.com/Market-Reports/cognitive-assessment-market-1039.html\" target=\"_blank\">predicted\u003c/a> that the cognitive assessment and training market will grow from $2.4 billion in 2015 to $7.5 billion by 2020.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether that number will have to be reassessed due to consumer doubt is anyone's guess.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/futureofyou/100995/lumosity-ceo-admits-brain-training-games-may-produce-no-direct-benefits","authors":["80"],"programs":["futureofyou_54"],"categories":["futureofyou_452","futureofyou_1","futureofyou_73"],"tags":["futureofyou_692","futureofyou_596","futureofyou_80","futureofyou_691","futureofyou_720","futureofyou_721"],"featImg":"futureofyou_100997","label":"futureofyou_54"},"futureofyou_94815":{"type":"posts","id":"futureofyou_94815","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"futureofyou","id":"94815","score":null,"sort":[1452924642000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"lumosity-cant-prove-claims-say-scientists-but-brain-training-worth-researching","title":"Government Slams Lumosity 'Brain Training,' But What Does Research Say?","publishDate":1452924642,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Future of You | KQED Future of You | KQED Science","labelTerm":{"term":54,"site":"futureofyou"},"content":"\u003cp>The company behind the \"brain-training\" program Lumosity settled a complaint by the Federal Trade Commission last week that it engaged in false advertising when it claimed its online games could delay cognitive impairments -- painful indignities of aging like dementia, memory loss and even Alzheimer's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/160105lumoslabsstip.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">agreement\u003c/a> calls for Lumos Labs to cough up $2 million for partial refunds and \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/public_statements/903353/160104lumositystatement.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">prohibits deceptive conduct in the future\u003c/a>.\" Lumos also had to inform subscribers it \"decided to settle a deceptive advertising lawsuit\" and -- this one's gotta hurt -- provide customers with a link to turn off automatic subscription renewal.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I think claims these companies have been making — and Lumosity is not alone — have been grossly exaggerated.'\u003ccite>Dr. Laura Carstensen, Stanford University\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>In response to questions about the settlement, Lumos Labs said in a statement: \"We agreed to settle for $2m so we can move on and focus on our mission: Delivering engaging cognitive training products to our 70+ million members, continuing research both in-house and with our partner network of 100+ collaborators, and promoting innovation within the field of cognitive training.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The statement listed research being done by the company's \u003ca href=\"http://www.lumosity.com/hcp\" target=\"_blank\">Human Cognition Project\u003c/a>, said it is a firm believer in the peer-review process, and suggested people contact independent researchers to evaluate studies by Lumos and others.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>So What \u003cem>Does\u003c/em> the Research Say?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2010, QUEST reporter Amy Standen\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/2010/10/15/when-brains-hit-the-gym-2/\" target=\"_blank\"> talked to several researchers about the efficacy of games\u003c/a> like those offered by Lumosity and Posit Science, advertised as beneficial for improving cognitive ability and a defense against age-related mental decline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Can you improve your brain so that it’s faster, more adept, more vital?\" Dr. Laura Carstensen, founding director of the \u003ca href=\"http://longevity3.stanford.edu/\" target=\"_blank\">Stanford Center on Longevity\u003c/a>, asked Standen, rhetorically. \"That’s what the claims are, and I don’t think there’s really any evidence for that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Joel Kramer, head of neuropsychology at \u003ca href=\"http://memory.ucsf.edu/\" target=\"_blank\">UCSF’s Memory and Aging Center\u003c/a>, invoked the one word scientists do agree on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that the research thus far demonstrates a much clearer link between exercise and brain health,” he said. (He means physical exercise, not mental strain while sitting.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Okay. That was then, a week before the iPad was released, for crying out loud. What about now, in 2016? Any new developments that may have buttressed the claims of the companies selling these products?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not according to Dr. Carstensen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think claims these companies have been making -- and Lumosity is not alone -- have been grossly exaggerated,\" she said this week. “They’re trying to argue that we’re going to take you out of that active world … and that we’re going to put you in a room alone in front of a computer screen and you’ll play a game that will make you smarter, and you’re going to pay us to do it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is no compelling evidence for that,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This assessment is pretty much in line with the 2014 Stanford Center's critique of the so-called brain-training industry. Called \"\u003ca href=\"http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus-on-the-brain-training-industry-from-the-scientific-community-2/\" target=\"_blank\">A Consensus on the Brain Training Industry From the Scientific Community\u003c/a>,\" it was signed by dozens of scientists in the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To date, there is little evidence that playing brain games improves underlying broad cognitive abilities,\" the analysis said, \"or that it enables one to better navigate a complex realm of everyday life.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Get Off the Computer and Onto Your Bike\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carstensen believes exercise is the only evidence-based activity that will improve cognitive fitness. But even those effects are modest, she said. And most of the studies have been relatively short-term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You’re looking at a boost to your cognitive benefit over your baseline after six weeks,\" she said. \"But it’s not huge.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Exercise, however, can help stave off the mental decline that comes with many physical diseases.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If you get cardiosvascular disease, it’s likely to effect your cognitive functioning,\" she said. \"Getting blood clots means you’re more likely to get a stroke. There’s a lot of evidence that diabetes is related to brain diseases as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Physical exercise is \"one of the more reliable approaches,\" agreed Dr. Kramer. He said studies have shown “fairly convincingly\" that people who engage in higher levels of physical activity have less chance of developing dementia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Trouble With Cognitive Training Research\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many researchers in the field of cognitive science think the studies that have found a positive effect from playing brain-training games -- research often touted by the companies -- have a fundamental problem: The evaluative tests to measure improvement are too similar to the games themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"2gnysOx73RyyKbj3eWqtryCdsCPqlRHG\"]“One of the big criticisms of the cognitive training paradigm is this issue of teaching to the test,\" said Dr. Joel Sneed, a professor of medical psychology at Columbia University who has researched the effect of computer cognitive training on depression.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If I give you a test to see if you got better in something like memory, and your game looks a lot like my test,\" he said, \"then you’ve just been taking the test a lot, so you’ve gotten better at the test. But that doesn’t mean you can find your keys or stop yourself from losing your wallet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In other words, there is no evidence the skills learned through the games will transfer to the skills people use to navigate the real world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another problem, researchers say, is that the control groups have often not been engaged in any activity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"A lot of these studies say, 'Come to the lab and play games,' and they compare them to people who don’t do anything,\" said Carstensen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Such inactivity will negatively affect mental performance, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Sneed agreed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Comparing people who take the training with people who aren’t doing anything is a completely unfair comparison,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The people doing brain training, Sneed continued, are getting dings and whistles and positive messages onscreen, so researchers don’t know if that’s the reason for improvement or if the training actually works.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Some Breakthroughs?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Murali Doraiswamy of the \u003ca href=\"https://dibs.duke.edu/\" target=\"_blank\">Duke Institute for Brain Sciences\u003c/a>, who was less cynical about the potential of brain fitness games in 2010 , is still hopeful today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I still believe in the potential of brain training as a therapeutic modality,\" he said in an email, \"but what we need now are long-term randomized trials to prove they can improve daily performance and delay dementia.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Doraiswamy, as well as Dr. Sneed, cited a \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4557999/\" target=\"_blank\">study published in PLoS One\u003c/a> in September, which was conducted largely by scientists from Lumos Labs and used a methodology aimed at reducing some of the pitfalls of previous research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study divided 4,715 people into two groups: those who went through a Lumosity program of 49 exercises, and a non-passive control group who solved online crossword puzzles. Both groups completed their activities in one 15-minute session at least five days per week, for 10 weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Lumosity group showed more improvement than the crossword puzzle group on tests measuring memory, problem solving, reasoning, and speed of brain processing. They also showed greater improvement on “self-reported measures of cognitive functioning.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sneed said having participants do crossword puzzles is “the kind of equivalence you need in order to be able to say something about your games. … You’re able to make a comparison that is way more realistic\" than comparisons made with passive control groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carstensen isn't buying it. She said having a control group do crossword puzzles is not equivalent to the game-playing of the treatment group\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Crossword puzzles have been shown over and over to have no effects on cognition,\" she said. \"You don’t learn something new when you do crossword puzzles, because you retrieve information you already know.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another study, commonly called the \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4055506/\" target=\"_blank\">ACTIVE trial\u003c/a>, was cited by Dr. Kramer as research that showed promise for cognitive brain training.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The research was led by Dr. George W. Rebok of Johns Hopkins' \u003ca href=\"http://coah.jhu.edu/about/\" target=\"_blank\">Center on Aging and Health\u003c/a> and includes scientists from 11 institutions, including several affiliated with Posit Science. The study \u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">looked at 2,832 people who were almost 74 years old on average. Three groups were given 10 training sessions for either memory, reasoning, or speed of processing, then booster sessions 11 and 35 months later. A control group received no treatment.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study found that 60 percent of the participants who underwent the training reported the same or greater ability to perform the so-called \u003ca href=\"http://www.healthcare.uiowa.edu/igec/tools/function/lawtonbrody.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">instrumental activities of daily living\u003c/a>, such as doing laundry and managing medication, while only 50 percent of the control group did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study also found that 10 years after the original treatment, those who received training in speed processing and reasoning did better on tests measuring those skills than the control group. The memory training showed no effect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the study found \"no effect of training or added booster training\" on actual tests, as opposed to self-reports, designed to measure daily cognitive function.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>More Research Needed\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of the researchers agreed that the advertising claims of companies like Lumosity have not been borne out yet by the research. Dr. Dorasiswamy says the FTC action \"will serve as a broadshot to move the entire field away from marketing-driven claims to science-driven claims.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Sneed says more -- and better -- research is needed if the industry wants to uncover the smoking gun that will prove what they're peddling is beneficial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Several studies are promising, but you need a large double-blind placebo trial,\" he said.\" You need more than one. And you have to be able to show the effect of doing the treatment generalizes to other cognitive skills.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the Stanford Center for Longevity's \u003ca href=\"http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus-on-the-brain-training-industry-from-the-scientific-community-2/\" target=\"_blank\">call-to-arms against the brain-training industry \u003c/a>in 2014 acknowledged that \"some intriguing isolated reports do inspire additional research.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Kramer, for his part, thinks that Lumosity and other brain-training games could one day prove beneficial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The lack of evidence is not the same as evidence of a lack of efficacy,\" he said. \"There’s still the possibility that Lumosity or other kinds of brain training or cognitive enhancement approaches will have some efficacy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It just hasn’t been adequately established yet,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"While some research has turned up 'intriguing' results on the efficacy of brain training, the science is a long way from being established.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1487726017,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":56,"wordCount":1827},"headData":{"title":"Government Slams Lumosity 'Brain Training,' But What Does Research Say? | KQED","description":"While some research has turned up 'intriguing' results on the efficacy of brain training, the science is a long way from being established.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Government Slams Lumosity 'Brain Training,' But What Does Research Say?","datePublished":"2016-01-16T06:10:42.000Z","dateModified":"2017-02-22T01:13:37.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"94815 http://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/?p=94815","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2016/01/15/lumosity-cant-prove-claims-say-scientists-but-brain-training-worth-researching/","disqusTitle":"Government Slams Lumosity 'Brain Training,' But What Does Research Say?","path":"/futureofyou/94815/lumosity-cant-prove-claims-say-scientists-but-brain-training-worth-researching","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The company behind the \"brain-training\" program Lumosity settled a complaint by the Federal Trade Commission last week that it engaged in false advertising when it claimed its online games could delay cognitive impairments -- painful indignities of aging like dementia, memory loss and even Alzheimer's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/160105lumoslabsstip.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">agreement\u003c/a> calls for Lumos Labs to cough up $2 million for partial refunds and \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/public_statements/903353/160104lumositystatement.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">prohibits deceptive conduct in the future\u003c/a>.\" Lumos also had to inform subscribers it \"decided to settle a deceptive advertising lawsuit\" and -- this one's gotta hurt -- provide customers with a link to turn off automatic subscription renewal.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I think claims these companies have been making — and Lumosity is not alone — have been grossly exaggerated.'\u003ccite>Dr. Laura Carstensen, Stanford University\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>In response to questions about the settlement, Lumos Labs said in a statement: \"We agreed to settle for $2m so we can move on and focus on our mission: Delivering engaging cognitive training products to our 70+ million members, continuing research both in-house and with our partner network of 100+ collaborators, and promoting innovation within the field of cognitive training.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The statement listed research being done by the company's \u003ca href=\"http://www.lumosity.com/hcp\" target=\"_blank\">Human Cognition Project\u003c/a>, said it is a firm believer in the peer-review process, and suggested people contact independent researchers to evaluate studies by Lumos and others.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>So What \u003cem>Does\u003c/em> the Research Say?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2010, QUEST reporter Amy Standen\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/quest/2010/10/15/when-brains-hit-the-gym-2/\" target=\"_blank\"> talked to several researchers about the efficacy of games\u003c/a> like those offered by Lumosity and Posit Science, advertised as beneficial for improving cognitive ability and a defense against age-related mental decline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Can you improve your brain so that it’s faster, more adept, more vital?\" Dr. Laura Carstensen, founding director of the \u003ca href=\"http://longevity3.stanford.edu/\" target=\"_blank\">Stanford Center on Longevity\u003c/a>, asked Standen, rhetorically. \"That’s what the claims are, and I don’t think there’s really any evidence for that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Joel Kramer, head of neuropsychology at \u003ca href=\"http://memory.ucsf.edu/\" target=\"_blank\">UCSF’s Memory and Aging Center\u003c/a>, invoked the one word scientists do agree on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that the research thus far demonstrates a much clearer link between exercise and brain health,” he said. (He means physical exercise, not mental strain while sitting.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Okay. That was then, a week before the iPad was released, for crying out loud. What about now, in 2016? Any new developments that may have buttressed the claims of the companies selling these products?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not according to Dr. Carstensen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think claims these companies have been making -- and Lumosity is not alone -- have been grossly exaggerated,\" she said this week. “They’re trying to argue that we’re going to take you out of that active world … and that we’re going to put you in a room alone in front of a computer screen and you’ll play a game that will make you smarter, and you’re going to pay us to do it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is no compelling evidence for that,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This assessment is pretty much in line with the 2014 Stanford Center's critique of the so-called brain-training industry. Called \"\u003ca href=\"http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus-on-the-brain-training-industry-from-the-scientific-community-2/\" target=\"_blank\">A Consensus on the Brain Training Industry From the Scientific Community\u003c/a>,\" it was signed by dozens of scientists in the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To date, there is little evidence that playing brain games improves underlying broad cognitive abilities,\" the analysis said, \"or that it enables one to better navigate a complex realm of everyday life.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Get Off the Computer and Onto Your Bike\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carstensen believes exercise is the only evidence-based activity that will improve cognitive fitness. But even those effects are modest, she said. And most of the studies have been relatively short-term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You’re looking at a boost to your cognitive benefit over your baseline after six weeks,\" she said. \"But it’s not huge.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Exercise, however, can help stave off the mental decline that comes with many physical diseases.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If you get cardiosvascular disease, it’s likely to effect your cognitive functioning,\" she said. \"Getting blood clots means you’re more likely to get a stroke. There’s a lot of evidence that diabetes is related to brain diseases as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Physical exercise is \"one of the more reliable approaches,\" agreed Dr. Kramer. He said studies have shown “fairly convincingly\" that people who engage in higher levels of physical activity have less chance of developing dementia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Trouble With Cognitive Training Research\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many researchers in the field of cognitive science think the studies that have found a positive effect from playing brain-training games -- research often touted by the companies -- have a fundamental problem: The evaluative tests to measure improvement are too similar to the games themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>“One of the big criticisms of the cognitive training paradigm is this issue of teaching to the test,\" said Dr. Joel Sneed, a professor of medical psychology at Columbia University who has researched the effect of computer cognitive training on depression.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If I give you a test to see if you got better in something like memory, and your game looks a lot like my test,\" he said, \"then you’ve just been taking the test a lot, so you’ve gotten better at the test. But that doesn’t mean you can find your keys or stop yourself from losing your wallet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In other words, there is no evidence the skills learned through the games will transfer to the skills people use to navigate the real world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another problem, researchers say, is that the control groups have often not been engaged in any activity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"A lot of these studies say, 'Come to the lab and play games,' and they compare them to people who don’t do anything,\" said Carstensen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Such inactivity will negatively affect mental performance, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Sneed agreed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Comparing people who take the training with people who aren’t doing anything is a completely unfair comparison,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The people doing brain training, Sneed continued, are getting dings and whistles and positive messages onscreen, so researchers don’t know if that’s the reason for improvement or if the training actually works.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Some Breakthroughs?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Murali Doraiswamy of the \u003ca href=\"https://dibs.duke.edu/\" target=\"_blank\">Duke Institute for Brain Sciences\u003c/a>, who was less cynical about the potential of brain fitness games in 2010 , is still hopeful today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I still believe in the potential of brain training as a therapeutic modality,\" he said in an email, \"but what we need now are long-term randomized trials to prove they can improve daily performance and delay dementia.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Doraiswamy, as well as Dr. Sneed, cited a \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4557999/\" target=\"_blank\">study published in PLoS One\u003c/a> in September, which was conducted largely by scientists from Lumos Labs and used a methodology aimed at reducing some of the pitfalls of previous research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study divided 4,715 people into two groups: those who went through a Lumosity program of 49 exercises, and a non-passive control group who solved online crossword puzzles. Both groups completed their activities in one 15-minute session at least five days per week, for 10 weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Lumosity group showed more improvement than the crossword puzzle group on tests measuring memory, problem solving, reasoning, and speed of brain processing. They also showed greater improvement on “self-reported measures of cognitive functioning.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sneed said having participants do crossword puzzles is “the kind of equivalence you need in order to be able to say something about your games. … You’re able to make a comparison that is way more realistic\" than comparisons made with passive control groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carstensen isn't buying it. She said having a control group do crossword puzzles is not equivalent to the game-playing of the treatment group\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Crossword puzzles have been shown over and over to have no effects on cognition,\" she said. \"You don’t learn something new when you do crossword puzzles, because you retrieve information you already know.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another study, commonly called the \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4055506/\" target=\"_blank\">ACTIVE trial\u003c/a>, was cited by Dr. Kramer as research that showed promise for cognitive brain training.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The research was led by Dr. George W. Rebok of Johns Hopkins' \u003ca href=\"http://coah.jhu.edu/about/\" target=\"_blank\">Center on Aging and Health\u003c/a> and includes scientists from 11 institutions, including several affiliated with Posit Science. The study \u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">looked at 2,832 people who were almost 74 years old on average. Three groups were given 10 training sessions for either memory, reasoning, or speed of processing, then booster sessions 11 and 35 months later. A control group received no treatment.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study found that 60 percent of the participants who underwent the training reported the same or greater ability to perform the so-called \u003ca href=\"http://www.healthcare.uiowa.edu/igec/tools/function/lawtonbrody.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">instrumental activities of daily living\u003c/a>, such as doing laundry and managing medication, while only 50 percent of the control group did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study also found that 10 years after the original treatment, those who received training in speed processing and reasoning did better on tests measuring those skills than the control group. The memory training showed no effect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the study found \"no effect of training or added booster training\" on actual tests, as opposed to self-reports, designed to measure daily cognitive function.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>More Research Needed\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of the researchers agreed that the advertising claims of companies like Lumosity have not been borne out yet by the research. Dr. Dorasiswamy says the FTC action \"will serve as a broadshot to move the entire field away from marketing-driven claims to science-driven claims.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Sneed says more -- and better -- research is needed if the industry wants to uncover the smoking gun that will prove what they're peddling is beneficial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Several studies are promising, but you need a large double-blind placebo trial,\" he said.\" You need more than one. And you have to be able to show the effect of doing the treatment generalizes to other cognitive skills.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the Stanford Center for Longevity's \u003ca href=\"http://longevity3.stanford.edu/blog/2014/10/15/the-consensus-on-the-brain-training-industry-from-the-scientific-community-2/\" target=\"_blank\">call-to-arms against the brain-training industry \u003c/a>in 2014 acknowledged that \"some intriguing isolated reports do inspire additional research.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. Kramer, for his part, thinks that Lumosity and other brain-training games could one day prove beneficial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The lack of evidence is not the same as evidence of a lack of efficacy,\" he said. \"There’s still the possibility that Lumosity or other kinds of brain training or cognitive enhancement approaches will have some efficacy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It just hasn’t been adequately established yet,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/futureofyou/94815/lumosity-cant-prove-claims-say-scientists-but-brain-training-worth-researching","authors":["80"],"programs":["futureofyou_54"],"categories":["futureofyou_1","futureofyou_73"],"tags":["futureofyou_692","futureofyou_693","futureofyou_596","futureofyou_80","futureofyou_691"],"featImg":"futureofyou_93427","label":"futureofyou_54"},"futureofyou_42356":{"type":"posts","id":"futureofyou_42356","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"futureofyou","id":"42356","score":null,"sort":[1443040271000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"uc-riverside-professor-slams-feds-stands-by-his-health-app","title":"UC Riverside Professor Slams Feds, Stands By His Health App","publishDate":1443040271,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Future of You | KQED Future of You | KQED Science","labelTerm":{"term":54,"site":"futureofyou"},"content":"\u003cp>UC Riverside professor of psychology Aaron Seitz had an idea for a mobile health app based on his area of research. In 2014, he launched.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2015, he was hit with a substantial fine and a firestorm of \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/09/17/apps-are-making-health-claims-but-they-may-not-have-the-science-to-back-them-up/\" target=\"_blank\">bad press\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seitz is the academic behind \u003ca href=\"https://ultimeyesvision.com/\" target=\"_blank\">UltimEyes\u003c/a>, the vision improvement app that \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2015/09/ftc-charges-marketers-vision-improvement-app-deceptive-claims\">got dinged by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC)\u003c/a> for $150,000 last week for making deceptive claims about the app's efficacy. Seitz and his business partner, Adam Goldberg, are the co-owners and only employees of Carrot Neurotechnology, Inc., the company that sells UltimEyes. Seitz told KQED in an interview Tuesday he and Goldberg had to pony up $75,000 each.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">“If you look at the mobile apps being promoted, it’s still the wild west out there.\"\u003ccite>Attorney Bradley Merrill Thompson\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>As for the legal fees, he said, \"Don't ask me about that. It's crazy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aside from the money owed, Seitz and Goldberg \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/150917carrotneuroorder.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">agreed\u003c/a> to stop making claims about the mobile app's ability to improve vision. Prior to the FTC's involvement, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/150917carrotneuroexhibits.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">promotional material and language\u003c/a> on the UltimEyes website (still available on the Apple and Google Play app stores, for $5.99) said the app was “scientifically shown\" to do just that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/150917carrotneurocmpt.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">FTC complaint\u003c/a> against Carrot Neurotechnology lists an array of related assertions on that theme, including one that the app improved vision an average of 31 percent and two lines on the standard \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/who-made-that-eye-chart.html?_r=0\" target=\"_blank\">Stellen eye chart\u003c/a>, and another that it helps mitigate \u003ca href=\"http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/presbyopia/basics/definition/con-2003226\" target=\"_blank\">presbyopia\u003c/a>, the gradual loss of the ability to focus on nearby objects.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The FTC also reprimanded Carrot for not disclosing Seitz’s connection to the company when it cited his own research. Seitz says as soon as the FTC brought that to the company's attention, it disclosed the potential conflict of interest on its site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Standing by Claims\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the agreement with the FTC, Seitz stands by the original UltimEyes claims. He called the FTC action “dangerous.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Is it a good thing that you have the FTC not just going after companies, but going after individuals when they’re trying to take the university mission of taking research and translating it to the public good?\" he said. \"Scientists should be incentivized to translate the research in the way I’m doing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seitz has laid out his concerns in an \u003ca href=\"http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~aseitz/OpenLetter.html\" target=\"_blank\">open letter \u003c/a>on his UC Riverside faculty page, asking friends and colleagues to post supportive \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/policy/public-comments/initiative-625\" target=\"_blank\">comments \u003c/a>with the FTC during the public comment period. Seitz said “numerous scientists” have come to the defense of the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The government really needs to be listening to scientists here,\" he said. \"They ignored experts we brought to testify and the scientific literature. They're using us as a way to establish some precedent so they can go after some larger companies in the industry.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The FTC said UltimEyes racked up more than $350,000 in U.S. sales from January 2012 to June 2015. Seitz acknowledges that if the app had hit it big, he would have gained financially. But, he said, “my main aim was to let the public get a hold of my research.” He said neither he nor his partner made any money from the app.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its complaint, the FTC also cited \u003ca href=\"http://tune.pk/video/2448640/Brain-Training-Makes-Better-Batters\">a video that was posted on the UltimEyes site\u003c/a> featuring Seitz and others discussing a study involving the 2013 UC Riverside baseball team, which ostensibly improved its performance after going through the app's exercises. In the video, a researcher says players reported they could “see things in dimmer light conditions, being able to see the ball better, being able to hit the ball better.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Research\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seitz says UltimEyes is based on \u003ca href=\"https://www.google.com/search?q=perceptual+learning\" target=\"_blank\">perceptual learning\u003c/a>, which he describes as \"an improvement in a perceptual task induced by practice or experience. \" The National Institutes of Health gave him a \u003ca href=\"http://ucrtoday.ucr.edu/18771\" target=\"_blank\">$1.7 million grant\u003c/a> in 2013 to study the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, \u003ca href=\"http://mashable.com/2014/05/01/ultimeyes-test-video/#nng4T.bGuqkP\">Mashable\u003c/a> tested the app out on an iPad and called it “half-game, half-eye exam.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[Scroll to the bottom of this post for a video of the app in action.]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The UC Riverside baseball experiment was also the subject of a \u003ca href=\"http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(14)00005-0\">paper published in Current Biology\u003c/a>, co-authored by Seitz. (Not to mention the subject of a \u003ca href=\"http://www.scpr.org/news/2014/03/28/43098/how-neuroscience-is-helping-uc-riverside-baseball/\" target=\"_blank\">Southern California Public Radio story\u003c/a> in 2014).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was one of three peer-reviewed studies, Seitz says, that prove UltimEyes does what it said. He said the FTC went after the app because the agency wants to see randomized, double blind studies to substantiate such claims. Seitz does not agree with that standard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re saying that if research is not done with a double blind placebo study, it doesn’t provide evidence of anything. ... But if you talk with most scientists, they say that there are tons of studies that use that methodology that are junk, and tons of studies that don’t use it that are informative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a useful study design that provides information and context. It has great purpose, but there are many circumstances -- and this research is actually one of them -- where it doesn’t apply.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The FTC declined to comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Federal Agencies \"Doing a Reasonable Job\" of Policing Apps\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. John Halamka, co-chair of the federal Health Information Technology Standards Committee, which advises the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on technology and health care, does not agree with Seitz that the FTC overreached in taking action against his app. He says requiring a stringent level of proof is appropriate here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is not one that is just face valid, or peer review could say, ‘okay sounds reasonable.’ It needs to be proven,\" he said, adding that peer review doesn't prove \"rigorous scientific evaluation of a phenomena.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Halamka said using UltimEyes presents a certain level of risk to the public because it involves diagnosis or therapy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In the case of apps that are making claims that may or may not be true, if this is a therapy claiming a result, I think all of our federal agencies are doing a reasonable job to ask for rigor.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>More to Come?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Enforcement actions like the one against UltimEyes are probably going to happen more frequently, says Bradley Merrill Thompson, a lawyer at Epstein, Becker & Green who works on regulatory issues with medical device and drug companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The agreement is the next step in a whole series of cases the FTC has brought with respect to mobile applications,\" he said. Last month, the FTC \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2015/08/melanoma-detection-app-sellers-barred-making-deceptive-health\" target=\"_blank\">barred a company\u003c/a> from making claims that the“Mole Detective” line of apps could detect melanoma.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I fear that there will be a lot more cases, ” Merrill Thompson said. \"If you look at the mobile apps being promoted, it’s still the wild west out there. There’s still a lot of very small organizations operating out of their garage, making boastful claims about their technology.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/\">KQED Future of You\u003c/a> editor Christina Farr wrote about the \u003ca href=\"http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/10/us-mobilephone-healthcare-idUSKBN0EL23M20140610\" target=\"_blank\">proliferation of unproven claims\u003c/a> by health-related apps for Reuters in 2014. She reported that a recent study from the New England Center for Investigative Research revealed that of the 1,500 health apps it evaluated, 20 percent claimed to treat or cure medical problems, but only a small percentage of them had been clinically validated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Farr wrote that the FDA lacks the resources to monitor all the health-related apps on the market.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bradley Merrill Thompson says the FDA has been “suspiciously quiet” on the topic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One would have to be suspicious that the FDA and FTC are collaborating behind the scenes, and the FTC has agreed to be the bad cop,” said Merrill Thompson. “The FDA has been embattled over the past few years as being too heavy-handed and too burdensome in regard to mobile apps.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He explained that in a case like the one against UltimEyes, the FTC is viewing the app as a medical device, which comes under the purview of both agencies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Clearly there’s overlap,” he said, and either agency could have brought an action.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[vimeo 90324562 w=500 h=313]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This post has been updated to reflect the FTC's declining to comment.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A UC Riverside psychology professor calls the FTC action against him and his business partner 'dangerous.'","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1443116985,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":42,"wordCount":1478},"headData":{"title":"UC Riverside Professor Slams Feds, Stands By His Health App | KQED","description":"A UC Riverside psychology professor calls the FTC action against him and his business partner 'dangerous.'","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"UC Riverside Professor Slams Feds, Stands By His Health App","datePublished":"2015-09-23T20:31:11.000Z","dateModified":"2015-09-24T17:49:45.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"42356 http://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/?p=42356","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2015/09/23/uc-riverside-professor-slams-feds-stands-by-his-health-app/","disqusTitle":"UC Riverside Professor Slams Feds, Stands By His Health App","path":"/futureofyou/42356/uc-riverside-professor-slams-feds-stands-by-his-health-app","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>UC Riverside professor of psychology Aaron Seitz had an idea for a mobile health app based on his area of research. In 2014, he launched.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2015, he was hit with a substantial fine and a firestorm of \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/09/17/apps-are-making-health-claims-but-they-may-not-have-the-science-to-back-them-up/\" target=\"_blank\">bad press\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seitz is the academic behind \u003ca href=\"https://ultimeyesvision.com/\" target=\"_blank\">UltimEyes\u003c/a>, the vision improvement app that \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2015/09/ftc-charges-marketers-vision-improvement-app-deceptive-claims\">got dinged by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC)\u003c/a> for $150,000 last week for making deceptive claims about the app's efficacy. Seitz and his business partner, Adam Goldberg, are the co-owners and only employees of Carrot Neurotechnology, Inc., the company that sells UltimEyes. Seitz told KQED in an interview Tuesday he and Goldberg had to pony up $75,000 each.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">“If you look at the mobile apps being promoted, it’s still the wild west out there.\"\u003ccite>Attorney Bradley Merrill Thompson\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>As for the legal fees, he said, \"Don't ask me about that. It's crazy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aside from the money owed, Seitz and Goldberg \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/150917carrotneuroorder.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">agreed\u003c/a> to stop making claims about the mobile app's ability to improve vision. Prior to the FTC's involvement, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/150917carrotneuroexhibits.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">promotional material and language\u003c/a> on the UltimEyes website (still available on the Apple and Google Play app stores, for $5.99) said the app was “scientifically shown\" to do just that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/150917carrotneurocmpt.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">FTC complaint\u003c/a> against Carrot Neurotechnology lists an array of related assertions on that theme, including one that the app improved vision an average of 31 percent and two lines on the standard \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/who-made-that-eye-chart.html?_r=0\" target=\"_blank\">Stellen eye chart\u003c/a>, and another that it helps mitigate \u003ca href=\"http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/presbyopia/basics/definition/con-2003226\" target=\"_blank\">presbyopia\u003c/a>, the gradual loss of the ability to focus on nearby objects.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The FTC also reprimanded Carrot for not disclosing Seitz’s connection to the company when it cited his own research. Seitz says as soon as the FTC brought that to the company's attention, it disclosed the potential conflict of interest on its site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Standing by Claims\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the agreement with the FTC, Seitz stands by the original UltimEyes claims. He called the FTC action “dangerous.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Is it a good thing that you have the FTC not just going after companies, but going after individuals when they’re trying to take the university mission of taking research and translating it to the public good?\" he said. \"Scientists should be incentivized to translate the research in the way I’m doing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seitz has laid out his concerns in an \u003ca href=\"http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~aseitz/OpenLetter.html\" target=\"_blank\">open letter \u003c/a>on his UC Riverside faculty page, asking friends and colleagues to post supportive \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/policy/public-comments/initiative-625\" target=\"_blank\">comments \u003c/a>with the FTC during the public comment period. Seitz said “numerous scientists” have come to the defense of the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The government really needs to be listening to scientists here,\" he said. \"They ignored experts we brought to testify and the scientific literature. They're using us as a way to establish some precedent so they can go after some larger companies in the industry.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The FTC said UltimEyes racked up more than $350,000 in U.S. sales from January 2012 to June 2015. Seitz acknowledges that if the app had hit it big, he would have gained financially. But, he said, “my main aim was to let the public get a hold of my research.” He said neither he nor his partner made any money from the app.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its complaint, the FTC also cited \u003ca href=\"http://tune.pk/video/2448640/Brain-Training-Makes-Better-Batters\">a video that was posted on the UltimEyes site\u003c/a> featuring Seitz and others discussing a study involving the 2013 UC Riverside baseball team, which ostensibly improved its performance after going through the app's exercises. In the video, a researcher says players reported they could “see things in dimmer light conditions, being able to see the ball better, being able to hit the ball better.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Research\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seitz says UltimEyes is based on \u003ca href=\"https://www.google.com/search?q=perceptual+learning\" target=\"_blank\">perceptual learning\u003c/a>, which he describes as \"an improvement in a perceptual task induced by practice or experience. \" The National Institutes of Health gave him a \u003ca href=\"http://ucrtoday.ucr.edu/18771\" target=\"_blank\">$1.7 million grant\u003c/a> in 2013 to study the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, \u003ca href=\"http://mashable.com/2014/05/01/ultimeyes-test-video/#nng4T.bGuqkP\">Mashable\u003c/a> tested the app out on an iPad and called it “half-game, half-eye exam.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[Scroll to the bottom of this post for a video of the app in action.]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The UC Riverside baseball experiment was also the subject of a \u003ca href=\"http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(14)00005-0\">paper published in Current Biology\u003c/a>, co-authored by Seitz. (Not to mention the subject of a \u003ca href=\"http://www.scpr.org/news/2014/03/28/43098/how-neuroscience-is-helping-uc-riverside-baseball/\" target=\"_blank\">Southern California Public Radio story\u003c/a> in 2014).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was one of three peer-reviewed studies, Seitz says, that prove UltimEyes does what it said. He said the FTC went after the app because the agency wants to see randomized, double blind studies to substantiate such claims. Seitz does not agree with that standard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re saying that if research is not done with a double blind placebo study, it doesn’t provide evidence of anything. ... But if you talk with most scientists, they say that there are tons of studies that use that methodology that are junk, and tons of studies that don’t use it that are informative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a useful study design that provides information and context. It has great purpose, but there are many circumstances -- and this research is actually one of them -- where it doesn’t apply.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The FTC declined to comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Federal Agencies \"Doing a Reasonable Job\" of Policing Apps\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dr. John Halamka, co-chair of the federal Health Information Technology Standards Committee, which advises the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on technology and health care, does not agree with Seitz that the FTC overreached in taking action against his app. He says requiring a stringent level of proof is appropriate here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is not one that is just face valid, or peer review could say, ‘okay sounds reasonable.’ It needs to be proven,\" he said, adding that peer review doesn't prove \"rigorous scientific evaluation of a phenomena.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Halamka said using UltimEyes presents a certain level of risk to the public because it involves diagnosis or therapy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In the case of apps that are making claims that may or may not be true, if this is a therapy claiming a result, I think all of our federal agencies are doing a reasonable job to ask for rigor.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>More to Come?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Enforcement actions like the one against UltimEyes are probably going to happen more frequently, says Bradley Merrill Thompson, a lawyer at Epstein, Becker & Green who works on regulatory issues with medical device and drug companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The agreement is the next step in a whole series of cases the FTC has brought with respect to mobile applications,\" he said. Last month, the FTC \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2015/08/melanoma-detection-app-sellers-barred-making-deceptive-health\" target=\"_blank\">barred a company\u003c/a> from making claims that the“Mole Detective” line of apps could detect melanoma.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I fear that there will be a lot more cases, ” Merrill Thompson said. \"If you look at the mobile apps being promoted, it’s still the wild west out there. There’s still a lot of very small organizations operating out of their garage, making boastful claims about their technology.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/\">KQED Future of You\u003c/a> editor Christina Farr wrote about the \u003ca href=\"http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/10/us-mobilephone-healthcare-idUSKBN0EL23M20140610\" target=\"_blank\">proliferation of unproven claims\u003c/a> by health-related apps for Reuters in 2014. 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