Tax forms from previous years are displayed at Latino Taxes April 10, 2007 in Oakland, California.

Led by state Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León, state lawmakers are looking for creative ways to soften the impact of the new federal tax law on Californians. Options under consideration include replacing income tax payments with fully deductible charitable donations to the state, or with payroll taxes. But De León admits the ideas floated for California are “highly unusual tax policy making.” Forum discusses the viability of such workarounds for state residents negatively impacted by the new tax law.

Guests:

Kevin de León, president pro tem, California State Senate

Alan Auerbach,  professor of economics; law director, Robert D. Burch Center for Tax Policy and Public Finance, UC Berkeley

Scott Shafer, senior editor, KQED’s California Politics and Government Desk

California Legislators Look for Tax Workarounds to Preserve Deductions 3 January,2018Michael Krasny

  • Bill_Woods

    So the Democrats’ position is that under the Republican bill, taxes on millionaires will be too high?

    • William – SF

      No.

      • Bill_Woods

        So “soften the impact of the new federal tax law” doesn’t mean they want to reduce the tax burden on high-income constituents?

        • William – SF

          Yes.
          Democrats reject/despise/loath/call-out DJT and Republicans in Congress wealth giveaway to the wealthy and corporations, the $1.5+ trillion needlessly added to the national debt, the tax increases on working Americans, and DJT’s and Republicans’ in Congress efforts to destroy American.

          • Bill_Woods

            So which is it?
            A) Democrats oppose lower taxes on the wealthy.
            B) Democrats oppose higher taxes on the wealthy (in California).

          • William – SF

            How many California Democrats voted for the tax giveaway to the wealthy and corporations, and to destroy America? (Hint: all Republicans voted to destroy America.)

          • Bill_Woods

            “Big, if true.”

          • Another Mike

            Yet the Democrats did not prevent GWB from spending $4.5 trillion on two unnecessary wars. In fact, HRC rubberstamped the Bush Cheney permission slip.

  • Another Mike

    Maybe if California and the other big blue states had accepted that Trump was our President, our high income earners would not be so penalized? In terms of the Kubler-Ross stages of grief, I still don’t think that our Democratic leaders have gotten past Denial and Anger, with Acceptance far in the future.

    • Brux

      Maybe if we flatter Orange Julius Caesar he will be nicer to us, right? That’s not a great way to run a state, nor is it a good character to have in a President … but you probably don’t care about that, right?

  • Sar Wash

    The Republican tax increases, kickbacks for billionaire Republican donors funded by increasing our deficit by at least $1.5 trillion and taking health care away from tens of millions of children, are devastating to the American middle class. Tens of millions of Americans will feel the Trump tax increases immediately in 2018 and at least 70% of American middle class families will have a major tax increase by 2024. The blue states already pay for and subsidize the welfare dependent red states (liberal states pay far more money to the federal government than we receive while conservative states receive far more money than they pay). Now the Republicans, who will do anything to steal money from the middle and working classes and give it to super wealthy lobbyists, have gone all out in their attacks on the American people. Trump alone, who does not pay taxes, will enrich himself by $1 billion with this plan.

    • Bill_Woods

      “Trump alone, who does not pay taxes, will enrich himself by $1 billion with this plan.”
      If Trump doesn’t owe taxes, then his taxes can’t be cut. Pick one accusation.

      • Brux

        Both can be true. Trump pays some taxes, but compared to all the rest of Americans it is almost nothing compared to what he makes … not to mention that he seems to make a lot of it based on scams like Trump University or refusal to pay contractors.

        • Curious

          False.

    • Panko

      The blue states are effectively able to have their high property and income taxes subsidized by the fedgov. Trump said “no more!” What’s wrong with that? Maybe CA needs to learn how to find the money for their socialist programs in other ways other than shaking down their taxpayers, as the taxpayers now actually have to feel the effects of those high taxes.

      • Brux

        What’s wrong with that is that CA is a net contributor state, or you don’t know that and just like to blab on about CA socialist programs like a right-wing troll. We do feel the effects of those taxes a lot already, both the good and the bad. We have clearer air and energy, a better educated public, a diverse economy. What part of that do you want to get rid of so you can stop claiming CA is socialist … SURPRISE … whatever happens you will continue to do that. We can do fine without the $20 you pay in taxes Panko.

        • Panko

          Again, why should the feds subsidize high CA taxes through writeoffs?

          CA has great universities, but it’s public schools are crap, even though we outspent all other states.

          CA has clean energy because it imports it’s oil. Wind farms are inefficient and kill wildlife, solar farms and batteries are built using strip mined rare earth elements mined by child laborers in Africa. We should invest in nuclear power, but liberals are scared of it.

          I would get rid of the insane public sector unions and their pension liabilities. I’d also get rid of the ridiculous HSR project.

        • Curious

          California is a welfare queen. One eighth the nation’s population, one third of the nation’s welfare recipients. Forty seventh in education in states.

          • turquoisewaters

            California contributes more than its share to the US economy. (13.5% in 2015). California simply chooses to take better care of its poor than, say, Texas, and it does not kick children off welfare as fast as other states. 2/3 of welfare recipients are children.

  • Panko

    Why is Mr. DeLeon couching his pro-tax language in “Schools and children”? This is a naked attempt to paint anyone anti-tax as anti-child. Why doesn’t he speak to the Trillion dollars in unfunded debt and pension liabilities? Why doesn’t he speak about the money spent on educating the children of undocumented immigrants?

  • Curious

    Dems are always screaming for higher taxes – for anyone but themselves.

    • Brux

      No, they are really not and since it is not true I really wonder why you and your clones have to show up and repeat things like this – with the propaganda rules of thumb that if you repeat something long enough people think it is true. Like the Liberal media, or Liberals just want free stuff. The people the control the media and who get all kiinds of free stuff are Conservatives by far, and not just recently either.

      • Curious

        LOL!!!

  • Brux

    It seems like this is going to be a disaster for those who are just making due with their houses and taxes. Taxes go up and are mortgages are not deductible is that not going to crash the CA housing market all the way down the line. This was a strategically panned bill to do just that and cause havoc so the out of state money can come in and clean up.

  • Scott Whittaker

    Acid of the earth

    Sanctifornia ‘gainst the tyrant braves,
    In order to protect its slaves,
    Who toil and toil at feverish pace,
    To support their replacement race.

    Every cent created is one cent wasted,
    If from your book you ain’t erased it,
    To fund every Democrat project pet,
    Always framed as an existential threat.

    Which is true at some remove,
    ‘Cause cleansing you is their behoove,
    Say with toxic stuff you colluded,
    Scorch you from the spot you polluted.

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Michael Krasny

Michael Krasny, PhD, has been in broadcast journalism since 1983. He was with ABC in both radio and television and migrated to public broadcasting in 1993. He has been Professor of English at San Francisco State University and also taught at Stanford, the University of San Francisco and the University of California, as well as in the Fulbright International Institutes. A veteran interviewer for the nationally broadcast City Arts and Lectures, he is the author of a number of books, including “Off Mike: A Memoir of Talk Radio and Literary Life” (Stanford University Press) “Spiritual Envy” (New World); “Sound Ideas” (with M.E. Sokolik/ McGraw-Hill); “Let There Be Laughter” (Harper-Collins) as well as the twenty-four lecture series in DVD, audio and book, “Short Story Masterpieces” (The Teaching Company). He has interviewed many of the world’s leading political, cultural, literary, science and technology figures, as well as major figures from the world of entertainment. He is the recipient of many awards and honors including the S.Y. Agnon Medal for Intellectual Achievement; The Eugene Block Award for Human Rights Journalism; the James Madison Freedom of Information Award; the Excellence in Journalism Award from the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association; Career Achievement Award from the Society of Professional Journalists and an award from the Radio and Television News Directors Association. He holds a B.A. (cum laude) and M.A. from Ohio University and a PhD from the University of Wisconsin.

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