Customers buy marijuana products at the Perennial Holistic Wellness Center which is a medicinal marijuana dispensary in Los Angeles, California on March 24, 2017.

Time is running out for the San Francisco Board of Supervisors to reach an agreement on marijuana dispensaries, as the sale and purchase of recreational cannabis becomes legal on January 1. While 74 percent of the city’s voters last year backed legalizing recreational use of the drug, some city residents want to limit where pot stores can be placed, keeping them 1,000 feet from schools or daycare centers. Still other neighborhoods want the right to ban dispensaries altogether. We’ll get the latest on where and how recreational marijuana will be sold in San Francisco after the new year.

San Francisco Gridlocked Over Where to Allow Recreational Pot Dispensaries 15 November,2017Michael Krasny

  • EIDALM

    Now, not only we have to worry about drunk drivers, we also have to worry about the thousands of added,stoned head drivers as well, we might as well get ready for far more accidents and the added traffic death and injuries because of the state of California blessing the sale and use of marijuana….While alcohol leaves the human body in matter of hours, the effect of smoking marijuana can last for weeks, and it is also accumulative…..The long term use of marijuana, will lead to droopy eyes, mental retardation, and eventual permanent brain damage.

    • William – SF

      Medical diagnosis aside, the threat from those driving while looking at their phones, those driving without enough sleep, those driving while distracted, those driving while day dreaming, to name but a few, far out number drunks and stoners. I think it statistically less of an issue.

      • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

        I always thought that most of the people talking on their cell phones while driving were regular pot smokers. Whether they are or not, they’re already puffing their way along our roads.

        • Robert Thomas

          “I always thought that …”

          What made you think this ridiculous thing?

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            As a general rule, potheads aren’t known for their respect for the law.

          • Robert Thomas

            I guess not; I’m not the most ardent admirer of your run-of-the-mill loadie. But I observe that the number of drivers who spend a significant fraction of their behind-the-wheel time staring at their phone screens is FAR larger than the fraction that are even occasional canabis users.

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            You may be right, Robert, but how can you be sure who does and doesn’t smoke Lucifer’s Leaf in private? Are you employed as a government spy?

          • David

            Enough of the loaded language Reverend.

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            Those terms are standard in our ministry, which rescues people from drug addiction.

          • David

            The language is still loaded. If you want to debate outside of your ministry, I encourage you to refrain from language used within your ministry. You’re not going to win support at large by citing scripture or invoking your boogeyman.

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            The support I care most about comes from Above.

          • David

            Lucifer?

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            We don’t “invoke” Lucifer. We denounce the wickedness he spreads. That’s just an expression anyway. You mentioned “boogeyman.” That’s what many scoffers call the Creator! Marijuana by any other name destroys most of the lives it touches. Is that better?

          • David

            Sorry, you invoke your god indirectly by referencingyour boogeyman, Lucifer. Regardless, I believe you know what I mean. You and I are on the same page with respect to pot dispensaries, albeit for different reasons. My point is simply that in a forum such as this one, appeals to religion are not likely to win you converts, pun intended. Peace.

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            Religion is my whole life. I have a close and personal relationship with the Lord Jesus. Why should I want to keep my candle under a bushel basket? The basket would only catch fire if I did!

        • William – SF

          While being about in San Francisco, driving or otherwise, I’ve notice the smell of marijuana such that it does seem everywhere.

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            True. People who live outside California don’t believe how openly potheads indulge in their habit in public. The worst the police will do is tell them to put it out.

          • William – SF

            I have a little judgment towards those that want to smoke marijuana mostly because I don’t like the smell anymore than than that of tobacco, and of my own wasted experience with it in my early 20s. Fortunately, my own inhaling didn’t last long, but I recall it as a near complete waste of time. Yet I feel it should be legal and freely available. I’m working on eliminating my judgment of those that want to partake, and I doubt I will ever approve of the smell.

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            In my 14-year ministry helping the downtrodden and dispossessed, I’ve seen the use of Lucifer’s Leaf destroy hundreds of lives. I’ve come to accept the fact that life in the 21st century is so rough that people are clamoring for dope to kill the pain. Persons who are too young to smoke tobacco shouldn’t be exposed to cannabis, which has now been hybridized to provide increasingly narcotic effects. Drugs should be regulated as heavily as possible. I would prefer to see people seek healthier solutions to their problems than the Devil’s Dope!

          • William – SF

            Yes, I acknowledge that reality. Our culture too readily casts away those deemed not fit for …any number of reasons. I would like to see that addressed.

          • Curtis

            “Lucifer’s Leaf” “Devil’s Dope” I know you aren’t joking when you use these terms but thanks for the laugh, this is hilarious!

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            Don’t laugh, Curtis. These substances are highly destructive. Do you think it’s funny when people lose their jobs, homes, savings, spouses, children, and sanity because of drug addiction? Marijuana may not be a “gateway” drug that leads to other types of substance abuse, but in my experience it routinely makes people indifferent to their own fate. They’d rather have momentary relief from the rigors of life than real justice, equality, forbearance, assiduity, hard work, and wholesome ambition.

          • David

            Yeah, and it sucks.

    • geraldfnord

      I appreciate your repetitive misinformation about marijuana whenever I get tired of castigating those misinformers on ‘my’ side who claim it’s completely benign, can’t hurt you at all, is great for everyone, ordained by G-d in the time of Man’s innocence, u.s.w..

      The long-term, excessive, frequent, use of cannabis can lead to trouble, most definitely, but (as with aspirin, socialism, fire, capitalism, religion, TV, porn, commenting) the dose makes the poison.

      With regard to alcohol, you are exactly wrong: regular over-use (vagueness intentional) can lead to brain, liver, and vascular damage, not to say anything of the emotional damage done and the non-drug coping mechanisms left unlearned.

      • Noelle

        And now, warnings about a higher risk of cancer from alcohol use:

        https://medicalxpress.com/news/2017-11-day-cancer.html

        • EIDALM

          There is no question that alcohol does lots of damage to several organs of the human body, but two wrongs don’t make it right.

      • EIDALM

        You are totally wrong, please review all of the abundant medical evidence of the harmful effect of marijuana.

        • Curtis

          Source your claims! And don’t just say “google it”. It’s your job to back up your claims not ours.

        • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

          Experts are divided over the question of just how much marijuana smoking can damage the body and mind. It all depends on who can raise money to get their “study” funded first. In my experience working directly with drug users, I’ve found the effects to be destructive in the long term, both physically and psychologically. I don’t want to be near dope. I don’t want children to see adults use dope to solve their adjustment and performance problems.

          • EIDALM

            In other older counties in Europe and elsewhere in the World, you could see the devastating effect of marijuana on addicts on their physical, social, and brain damage…..Did you know that the word assassins is derived from ottoman word hashashins, which refereed to certain worriers, who were ordered to smoke so much marijuana, enough to lose all of their humans senses and end up, cold bloodied formidable murderers they used to assassinate their enemies….The word hashish is the Ottoman and Arabic word for marijuana plant.

  • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

    Can’t the Federal Government swoop in at any time and shut down these dope dens? Even if Our President eliminates the office of Drug Czar in the Office of National Drug Control Policy (or replaces it completely with the new Opioid and Drug Abuse Commission), I expect that he’ll order periodic raids on the West Coast’s lucrative cannabis industry, whose epicenter is San Francisco. That said, those who smoke pot are so used having access to their drug of choice that they’ll find some way to get it no matter what Our Government does. Its roots are too deep in our culture. People are already driving under the influence of any number of drugs. The experts are divided on what their long-term effects are. It’s better to have drugs taxed and regulated to offer the public some measure of protection from swindlers than none at all. And why is it that the “Asians” and “Chinese” are singled out as opponents of the hash houses? Don’t public attitudes cross ethnic lines?

  • geraldfnord

    I could understand any particular Chinese-American aversion, because even though cannabis isn’t opium, and permitting shops isn’t going to war to force their existence, it really might metaphorically smell too much like the lo fan trying to force drugs on them again.

    ( I might feel weird working for a German—not rational, not fair, but hard to ignore.)

  • Bill_Woods

    “Time is running out for the San Francisco Board of Supervisors to reach an agreement on marijuana dispensaries, …”

    So what happens if they don’t reach agreement?

  • Ben Rawner

    There are liquor stores all over sf and they do not seem to be posing any problems. There are medical dispensaries all over the bay and they don’t seem to be causing any problems. Any street that has a medical dispensary should be able to have recreational dispensary.

    • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

      Liquor stores attract criminals and perpetuate crime. The dope dens will do the same.

      • Ben Rawner

        That’s not true. Crime does happen in the big city, but there is little to no correlation between liquor stores and crime rates. Living in fear instead of logic is why this issue is so maligned. I walk by The Green Cross medical dispensary on Mission daily and the 3 blocks around the dispensary are the safest in the neighborhood because they have their own security.

        • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

          What is your source for the crime statistics in that neighborhood? Where there’s booze, there’s burglary. Where there’s marijuana, there are muggings. Where there’s crack, there’s crime.

        • David

          Why do they have their own security?

          • Reverend Lurlean Tucker

            The crime element swirls around dope stashes because of the dark profits it generates.

          • David

            Exactly. I’ll answer my own question. They have their own security because as you point out, such establishments attract the criminal element. Please, not in my backyard. I don’t want pot dispensary down the street any more than I want a bar or massage parlor.

    • Socrates Q. Einstein

      There are tons of problems related to liquor stores.

  • Robert Thomas

    “… [L]ong hours, to hash out …”

    “‘Hash Out.‘ Uh-huh-huh-huh…”

  • L Arini

    If you want to talk about a misinformation campaign what about the huge advertising campaign that Hollywood and filmmakers du since in the last few years displaying people smoking marijuana in almost every movie that comes out. On top of that what about this overall denial that marijuana has any effect on people taking even stronger drugs. I know what marijuana does and the the addiction does to people. I have a living example of a woman who lives down the street. She can barely get it together to get her kids to school on time. Her kids go to school in slippers and pajamas, their hair uncombed, they can’t concentrate, no matter how hard they try, (i have tried to tutor them)they live around and inhale the smoke… you can’t tell me that marijuana is is absolutely not harmful.

    • pastramiboy

      nice anecdotal example.

  • Curious

    Decline of civilization. Everyone is stoned all day.

  • Socrates Q. Einstein

    3/4 of voters voted to decriminalize marijuana, not to surround themselves with pot dispensaries – there’s a difference. Sheehy’s stoner logic fails him and makes me wonder about the claims that MJ has no ill effects on cognition.

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Michael Krasny

Michael Krasny, PhD, has been in broadcast journalism since 1983. He was with ABC in both radio and television and migrated to public broadcasting in 1993. He has been Professor of English at San Francisco State University and also taught at Stanford, the University of San Francisco and the University of California, as well as in the Fulbright International Institutes. A veteran interviewer for the nationally broadcast City Arts and Lectures, he is the author of a number of books, including “Off Mike: A Memoir of Talk Radio and Literary Life” (Stanford University Press) “Spiritual Envy” (New World); “Sound Ideas” (with M.E. Sokolik/ McGraw-Hill); “Let There Be Laughter” (Harper-Collins) as well as the twenty-four lecture series in DVD, audio and book, “Short Story Masterpieces” (The Teaching Company). He has interviewed many of the world’s leading political, cultural, literary, science and technology figures, as well as major figures from the world of entertainment. He is the recipient of many awards and honors including the S.Y. Agnon Medal for Intellectual Achievement; The Eugene Block Award for Human Rights Journalism; the James Madison Freedom of Information Award; the Excellence in Journalism Award from the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association; Career Achievement Award from the Society of Professional Journalists and an award from the Radio and Television News Directors Association. He holds a B.A. (cum laude) and M.A. from Ohio University and a PhD from the University of Wisconsin.

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