A Turkish police officer, patrols at the entrance of US consulate in Istanbul, on October 9, 2017. Turkey on October 9, 2017 urged the United States to reverse a decision to halt the issuing of all regular visas at American consulates in the country, in a row that risks a major crisis. Ankara hit back at the US move — sparked by the arrest of an Istanbul consulate staffer — with a similar halt by Turkey's missions in the US. Analysts warned the dispute risked becoming the most serious row between the two NATO allies in decades.

The U.S. and Turkey have mutually suspended visa services, effectively blocking travel between the two countries. The suspensions come after a U.S. consulate employee was arrested in Istanbul last week. Council on Foreign Relations Senior Fellow Steven Cook joins Forum for an update on U.S.-Turkey relations and to discuss his new book “False Dawn,” about why he thinks the Middle East uprisings from 2010-2013 failed, and why violence and autocracy continue in the region.

Steven Cook, senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies, Council on Foreign Relations; author, “False Dawn: Protest, Democracy, and Violence in the New Middle East”

Council on Foreign Relations’ Steven Cook on a ‘False Dawn’ in The Middle East 10 October,2017Michael Krasny

  • EIDALM

    The U S is totally responsible for the whole bloody mess we have in the Middle East, it all began when Roland Reagan supplied cash and arms to known terrorists the so called mujaheddin to fight the Russians, that was the beginning of the creation of the bloody Alquaeda terrorists, that was followed by the 1991 bloody invasion of Iraq by GH Bush which destroyed most of the coumtry and led to the cold blooded death of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, that was followed by 8 years of economic blokade by Bill Clinton, that resulted in the death of over 500 thousands of babies for the lack of medicine, as despicable secretary of state Madeline Albright sad that was well worth it, then the GW Bush bloody genocidal invasion of Iraq based on lies, which resulted in the cold blooded murder of over one million innocent Iraqi civilians, total destruction of the country, poisoning the whole country soil with lethal radioactive depleted uranium, and the creation of the bloody barbarians, terrorists, Daesh. Later on came in Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton following the Neocons agenda of regime change supplied cash and lethal arms to known terrorists, to murder Qaddafi in Libya, and to topple Assad in Syria which resulted in the mass destruction of both countries, the murder of several hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, and millions of refugees, and rampant terrorism and mass murders by the bloody barbarians, bogus Muslims ISIL, which is nether Islamic or state, as it’s followers are bunch of bloody idiots, morons whose bloody actions violate all rules and pillars of Islam, by murdering innocent civilians including women and children, but ISIL leaders are paid agents for the Islamophobic in the U S and the West, set on the total destruction of the Middle East, and shaming the great region of Islam.

  • EIDALM

    The only way to achieve peace in the Middle East, is for the U S to take their bloody hand out, stop supplying cash and arms to terrorist, abandon the dual citizens Neocons driven agenda of regime change across the Middle East, and support a final two states in solution in Palestine ….

  • EIDALM

    Please stop talking about your fake democracy, is that the same bloody democracy GW Bush brought to Iraq, or the bloody democracy that Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton brought to Libya and Syria, that destroyed both countries, death of million civilians, and over 10 million refuges, and the creation of the bloody terrorists,,,,,Just go away, let the people of the Middle East solve their own problems as Egypt has.

  • EIDALM

    Paul Wolfwitz, Richard Perle, and the rest of them dual citizens warmongers stranglehold on the U S foriegn policy in the Middle East played the major role in the horoble mess and destruction of so many countries, the murder of several millions, and the over ten million refugees, as well as their creation of the bloody barbaians terrorists…….It all started in after the bloody invasion of Iraq by GH Bush, with the 1992 wolfwitz doctrine which called for regime change across the Middle east, and for the U S and Israel to have total control of the region, that was followed by the group of what they called CLEAN BREAK,which expressed their total rejection of the Oslo accord which was to advance peace between the Palestinians and Israelis, Then in 1998 the published their PROJECT FOR NEW AMERICAN CENTURY were they called for total invasion and regime change of all countries in the Middle East……The interesting fact is that on page 52 of PNAC they stated that in order for the American people to agree to their bloody wars, they stated, WE NEED A NEW PERLE HARBOR, shortly after we had 911, they had their chance to advance their bloody plan when using all means to get the GW Bush in office, took over his administration and executed their long bloody agenda by their genocidal of Iraq based on lies…..And you know the rest of the story, where we are today with so many countries destroyed, the murder of millions of innocent civilians, the creation of the bloody terrorists, and the bankruptcy of the U S treasury of more than 6 trillion dollars on their bloody wars of choice to commit a murderous genocide against the people of the Middle East, and the Muslim World,

    • Kurt thialfad

      Rahm Emmanuel and Michael Chertoff (formr DHS Secretary) both hold allegiance to a foreign power.
      Note, look what the Australians did with legislators who held foreign allegiances: Threw the bums out!

    • Curious

      We need to stamp out Muslim extremism and terror.

  • geraldfnord

    A guest from the Council on Foreign Relations, discussing the Middle East? Well, that will draw hordes of cool-headed reality-testers speaking and writing measuredly and with civility….

    If only racist police violence, Web misogyny, and abortion could be added to the mix—we could use the level of decency, cogency, and effective discussion so engendered as some sort of benchmark, presumably that of the information vacuum state.

    • William – SF

      I didn’t know there was such a thing as Kissinger Associates. Frightening.

  • Ben Rawner

    What is the likelihood that the US will attack N Korea? If the US does, could it trigger World War 3 due to N Koreas alliance with China and Russia?

  • Ehkzu

    How would Mr. Cook evaluate the consequences in the Middle East of President Trump seeking to abrogate or even reverse every foreign policy and agreement issued or brokered by President Obama?

    • Curious

      Iran was well aware that Barry did not have the authority to make the “deal” that he did, and Barry even acknowledged it. Barry created myriad messes with his “pen and phone.”

  • William – SF

    When is profit not the “interest served” by the US? The “interest served” by the US in the Middle East is/was Halliburton, you know Vice President Cheney’s company.

    • Curious

      Do you know how much Al Gore has made out of his global warming hoax?

      • William – SF

        Not a hoax, would save millions, perhaps billions of lives if DJT administration took it seriously like scientist do, and millions didn’t die so Dick Cheney and his ilk could make millions.

        • Curious

          Every one of his “predictions” has been proven a lie. And he is one of the worst abusers of energy consumption and producer of pollution.

          Cheney was not responsible for the war. Biden, Hillary, Clinton et al had been calling for the ouster of Saddam years before Bush came along.

          And the Clintons have made billions by means oof pay to play and graft.

        • Curious

          It is difficult to over-estimate the critical role Biden played in making the tragedy of the Iraq war possible. More than two months prior to the 2002 war resolution even being introduced, in what was widely interpreted as the first sign that Congress would endorse a U.S. invasion of Iraq, Biden declared on August 4 that the United States was probably going to war. In his powerful position as chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he orchestrated a propaganda show designed to sell the war to skeptical colleagues and the America public by ensuring that dissenting voices would not get a fair hearing.

          As Scott Ritter, the former chief UN weapons inspector, noted at the time, “For Sen. Biden’s Iraq hearings to be anything more than a political sham used to invoke a modern-day Gulf of Tonkin resolution-equivalent for Iraq, his committee will need to ask hard questions – and demand hard facts – concerning the real nature of the weapons threat posed by Iraq.”

          It soon became apparent that Biden had no intention of doing so. Biden refused to even allow Ritter himself – who knew more about Iraq’s WMD capabilities than anyone and would have testified that Iraq had achieved at least qualitative disarmament – to testify. Ironically, on Meet the Press last year, Biden defended his false claims about Iraqi WMDs by insisting that “everyone in the world thought he had them. The weapons inspectors said he had them.”

          http://fpif.org/biden_iraq_and_obamas_betrayal/

        • Curious

          Rather than being a hapless victim of the Bush administration’s lies and manipulation, Biden was calling for a U.S. invasion of Iraq and making false statements regarding Saddam Hussein’s supposed possession of “weapons of mass destruction” years before President George W. Bush even came to office.

          As far back as 1998, Biden was calling for a U.S. invasion of that oil rich country. Even though UN inspectors and the UN-led disarmament process led to the elimination of Iraq’s WMD threat, Biden – in an effort to discredit the world body and make an excuse for war – insisted that UN inspectors could never be trusted to do the job. During Senate hearings on Iraq in September of that year, Biden told Ritter, “As long as Saddam’s at the helm, there is no reasonable prospect you or any other inspector is ever going to be able to guarantee that we have rooted out, root and branch, the entirety of Saddam’s program relative to weapons of mass destruction.”

          Calling for military action on the scale of the Gulf War seven years earlier, he continued, “The only way we’re going to get rid of Saddam Hussein is we’re going to end up having to start it alone,” telling the Marine veteran “it’s going to require guys like you in uniform to be back on foot in the desert taking Saddam down.”

          http://fpif.org/biden_iraq_and_obamas_betrayal/

  • marte48

    When the US CIA actions in Iran toppled the democratically elected government of Iran under President Mosaddegh and replaced it with an autocratic dictator under the Shah, Iran became radicalized against the west – which it would not have been without the interference of the US. The Iranian people as a whole were not anti-western, and still are not.

  • Robert Thomas

    Those who advocate either for or against U.S. involvement or U.S. application of power often seem to forget that provision of arms, materiel, “advisors” or air power may be doomed to failure and waste if the addition of actual ground force is off the table.

    President Obama’s organizing principle of involvement was that the American people simply will not support further steady loss of American soldiers in ground combat in the region. Nothing that has happened in the last ten years suggests that he was wrong about this.

    • Ehkzu

      He told us we couldn’t have our cake and eat it too. What a terrible President, expecting us to live in the real world.

      • Curious

        Barry was an unprecedented disaster.

    • William – SF

      Boots on the ground is the advance force for occupation, and eventual colonization. Without colonization there is no longevity. Without longevity there is no meaningful influence. Once Americans decide they want to live in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, …, send in the troops, ground or otherwise, else any American influence is fleeting and problematic at best.

    • Curious

      American casualties in Afghanistan were several times higher under Obama than under Bush.

      Of course, Obama’s premature withdrawal from Iraq and his illegal attack on Libya were also disasters.

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Michael Krasny

Michael Krasny, PhD, has been in broadcast journalism since 1983. He was with ABC in both radio and television and migrated to public broadcasting in 1993. He has been Professor of English at San Francisco State University and also taught at Stanford, the University of San Francisco and the University of California, as well as in the Fulbright International Institutes. A veteran interviewer for the nationally broadcast City Arts and Lectures, he is the author of a number of books, including “Off Mike: A Memoir of Talk Radio and Literary Life” (Stanford University Press) “Spiritual Envy” (New World); “Sound Ideas” (with M.E. Sokolik/ McGraw-Hill); “Let There Be Laughter” (Harper-Collins) as well as the twenty-four lecture series in DVD, audio and book, “Short Story Masterpieces” (The Teaching Company). He has interviewed many of the world’s leading political, cultural, literary, science and technology figures, as well as major figures from the world of entertainment. He is the recipient of many awards and honors including the S.Y. Agnon Medal for Intellectual Achievement; The Eugene Block Award for Human Rights Journalism; the James Madison Freedom of Information Award; the Excellence in Journalism Award from the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association; Career Achievement Award from the Society of Professional Journalists and an award from the Radio and Television News Directors Association. He holds a B.A. (cum laude) and M.A. from Ohio University and a PhD from the University of Wisconsin.

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