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I mean, you know, but you don’t until they’re on the other side.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nomore stars as Gia in \u003ci>Earth Mama\u003c/i>, a forthcoming A24 feature set in 2006 Oakland, directed by U.K.-born, Oakland-raised former Olympic athlete Savanah Leaf. In the film, Nomore plays Gia, a stoic, smart and resourceful single mom going through pregnancy while maintaining a relationship with her other two children in foster care, who she can only see during supervised visits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People that have seen the movie are so impressed with my performance, but I have a hard time considering it a performance because a lot of that shit was just very real for me,” says Nomore, who was born and raised in Oakland. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13925625\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13925625\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tia Nomore performs at The New Parish on night seven of the Noise Pop Music and Art Festival on Sunday, Feb. 26, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Nomore is best known as a rapper signed to San Francisco’s Text Me Records, and before getting tapped for \u003ci>Earth Mama\u003c/i>, she was two albums deep into her music career. Her last single, “\u003ca href=\"https://tianomore.bandcamp.com/track/drip-feat-amen\">Drip\u003c/a>” featuring Amen and Stoni, came out in 2021, and during last month’s Noise Pop festival, she opened for Junglepussy in front of hundreds of fans at the New Parish. \u003ci>Earth Mama\u003c/i> premiered at the 2023 Sundance Film Festival to glowing reviews, and has only added to her momentum. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Nomore was approached to play Gia, the casting process wasn’t what she expected. She met producers at Bushrod Park in North Oakland, and though it was a familiar setting, she was somewhat skeptical. She received a callback to read for Gia over Zoom, and afterward, she heard that Leaf wanted to meet. When they connected, Nomore instantly picked up on their similarities. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID='arts_13880448']“She like hella tall, lanky, has a stature of importance,” she says about Leaf. “I recognize one another in that because I’m soft, but I’m also very sharp. That was the first thing I recognized off top, and I was like, ‘I fuck with her energy.’” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While becoming Gia on set, Nomore was a year postpartum, still settling into her ever-changing motherhood adventure. Separately, she was training to become a doula, a third career endeavor that gave her an intimate look at other mothers’ experiences, and allowed her to see Gia’s circumstances with sensitivity and grace. Donning a prosthetic pregnancy belly, she felt a sense of clarity, as if the opportunity was sent to her by the spirits above.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13925636\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13925636\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tia Nomore in Downtown Oakland on Sunday, Feb. 26, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Leaf brought additional insights from her experience as a documentarian. She had her first shot at directing alongside Taylor Russell for the 2020 short documentary, \u003ci>The Heart Still Hums\u003c/i>, which followed mothers working with Sacramento’s Black Mothers United and Chicks in Crisis, which assists parents overcoming addiction, going through pregnancy without a partner and giving birth at a young age. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think for this role, for Gia in particular, I really had to tap into Savannah’s lands, because it’s a story that’s very close to home for her. It’s very personal,” Nomore says. “I had to gain a lot of understanding and empathy for a stranger quite quickly.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On set, Nomore and Leaf created a bond so deep that they could look at each other, lace fingers and push against one another when things became too emotional or overwhelming. Nomore also depended on her co-stars Erika Alexander for the deeply emotional scenes, and Bokeem Woodbine for lessons on handling parenthood, artistry and getting back to herself after immersing herself in her role. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was comforted as Tia to be Gia,” Nomore says. “Like I had my community in real life that knows me from the gate to help support me in doing something so pivotal.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13925627\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13925627\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tia Nomore backstage at The New Parish in Oakland on Sunday, Feb. 26, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Her connections with the other actors ran deep. Keta Price, who plays Mel, went to school with Nomore’s older sister, and Slim Yani, who plays Ari, and has been friends with Nomore through music since their MySpace days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It felt like home, just turf shit,” Nomore explained. “You really just had a whole cast of real Town niggas. It was real, none of us was actors.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Through her role as Gia, Nomore unlocked a new creative pathway for herself — one that has allowed her to become a better person, mother and artist. She says playing Gia encouraged her to pour into her inner child, which has helped her connect with her daughter. And she’s gratified to portray the challenges of motherhood she’s seen firsthand in her work as a doula, ones that rarely get shine on screen. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I hella wanted to bring this story to life for moms,” Nomore started. “Nobody fucking asks these moms how they’re doing, or how they got to where they are, or how they can be supported for real. 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","ogTitle":"How Becoming a Mom and a Doula Prepared Tia Nomore for Her Starring Role","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"How Becoming a Mom and a Doula Prepared Tia Nomore for Her Starring Role","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","socialTitle":"Tia Nomore Was Ready for Her Star Role in A24’s ‘Earth Mama’ %%page%% %%sep%% KQED","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"How Becoming a Mom and a Doula Prepared Tia Nomore for Her Starring Role","datePublished":"2023-03-07T20:00:37.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T20:42:50.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"Nia Coats","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13925905/tia-nomore-earth-mama-a24-savanah-leaf","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A lot has happened for \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/tia.nomore/?hl=en\">Tia Nomore\u003c/a> since she became a mom during the height of the pandemic — the arrival of her daughter, and a debut acting role that would challenge her to pull from the most vulnerable depths of her experience. “I feel like a portal sometimes, and that’s very much motherhood,” says the multi-hyphenate artist. “You don’t know what the fuck you’re carrying. I mean, you know, but you don’t until they’re on the other side.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nomore stars as Gia in \u003ci>Earth Mama\u003c/i>, a forthcoming A24 feature set in 2006 Oakland, directed by U.K.-born, Oakland-raised former Olympic athlete Savanah Leaf. In the film, Nomore plays Gia, a stoic, smart and resourceful single mom going through pregnancy while maintaining a relationship with her other two children in foster care, who she can only see during supervised visits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People that have seen the movie are so impressed with my performance, but I have a hard time considering it a performance because a lot of that shit was just very real for me,” says Nomore, who was born and raised in Oakland. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13925625\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13925625\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-performs-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-night-seven-of-the-Noise-Pop-Music-and-Art-Festival-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tia Nomore performs at The New Parish on night seven of the Noise Pop Music and Art Festival on Sunday, Feb. 26, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Nomore is best known as a rapper signed to San Francisco’s Text Me Records, and before getting tapped for \u003ci>Earth Mama\u003c/i>, she was two albums deep into her music career. Her last single, “\u003ca href=\"https://tianomore.bandcamp.com/track/drip-feat-amen\">Drip\u003c/a>” featuring Amen and Stoni, came out in 2021, and during last month’s Noise Pop festival, she opened for Junglepussy in front of hundreds of fans at the New Parish. \u003ci>Earth Mama\u003c/i> premiered at the 2023 Sundance Film Festival to glowing reviews, and has only added to her momentum. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Nomore was approached to play Gia, the casting process wasn’t what she expected. She met producers at Bushrod Park in North Oakland, and though it was a familiar setting, she was somewhat skeptical. She received a callback to read for Gia over Zoom, and afterward, she heard that Leaf wanted to meet. When they connected, Nomore instantly picked up on their similarities. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13880448","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“She like hella tall, lanky, has a stature of importance,” she says about Leaf. “I recognize one another in that because I’m soft, but I’m also very sharp. That was the first thing I recognized off top, and I was like, ‘I fuck with her energy.’” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While becoming Gia on set, Nomore was a year postpartum, still settling into her ever-changing motherhood adventure. Separately, she was training to become a doula, a third career endeavor that gave her an intimate look at other mothers’ experiences, and allowed her to see Gia’s circumstances with sensitivity and grace. Donning a prosthetic pregnancy belly, she felt a sense of clarity, as if the opportunity was sent to her by the spirits above.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13925636\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13925636\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-in-Downtown-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-002-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tia Nomore in Downtown Oakland on Sunday, Feb. 26, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Leaf brought additional insights from her experience as a documentarian. She had her first shot at directing alongside Taylor Russell for the 2020 short documentary, \u003ci>The Heart Still Hums\u003c/i>, which followed mothers working with Sacramento’s Black Mothers United and Chicks in Crisis, which assists parents overcoming addiction, going through pregnancy without a partner and giving birth at a young age. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think for this role, for Gia in particular, I really had to tap into Savannah’s lands, because it’s a story that’s very close to home for her. It’s very personal,” Nomore says. “I had to gain a lot of understanding and empathy for a stranger quite quickly.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On set, Nomore and Leaf created a bond so deep that they could look at each other, lace fingers and push against one another when things became too emotional or overwhelming. Nomore also depended on her co-stars Erika Alexander for the deeply emotional scenes, and Bokeem Woodbine for lessons on handling parenthood, artistry and getting back to herself after immersing herself in her role. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was comforted as Tia to be Gia,” Nomore says. “Like I had my community in real life that knows me from the gate to help support me in doing something so pivotal.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13925627\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13925627\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/Tia-Nomore-backstage-at-The-New-Parish-in-Oakland-on-Sunday-Feb.-26-2023.-001-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tia Nomore backstage at The New Parish in Oakland on Sunday, Feb. 26, 2023. \u003ccite>(Estefany Gonzalez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Her connections with the other actors ran deep. Keta Price, who plays Mel, went to school with Nomore’s older sister, and Slim Yani, who plays Ari, and has been friends with Nomore through music since their MySpace days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It felt like home, just turf shit,” Nomore explained. “You really just had a whole cast of real Town niggas. It was real, none of us was actors.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Through her role as Gia, Nomore unlocked a new creative pathway for herself — one that has allowed her to become a better person, mother and artist. She says playing Gia encouraged her to pour into her inner child, which has helped her connect with her daughter. And she’s gratified to portray the challenges of motherhood she’s seen firsthand in her work as a doula, ones that rarely get shine on screen. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I hella wanted to bring this story to life for moms,” Nomore started. “Nobody fucking asks these moms how they’re doing, or how they got to where they are, or how they can be supported for real. So I had to show that shit in my performance.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13925905/tia-nomore-earth-mama-a24-savanah-leaf","authors":["byline_arts_13925905"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_74","arts_69"],"tags":["arts_10278","arts_831","arts_3338"],"featImg":"arts_13925631","label":"arts"},"arts_13910312":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13910312","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13910312","score":null,"sort":[1646867088000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-does-bandcamps-sale-to-epic-games-mean-for-independent-musicians","title":"What Does Bandcamp’s Sale to Epic Games Mean for Independent Musicians?","publishDate":1646867088,"format":"standard","headTitle":"What Does Bandcamp’s Sale to Epic Games Mean for Independent Musicians? | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>On March 2, musicians who sell their work through Bandcamp got a surprise email: the Oakland-based music ecommerce platform was being acquired by Epic Games, creator of the video game \u003ci>Fortnite\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Honestly, I was really confused,” says Oakland electronic artist Sharmi Basu. Basu is the executive director of \u003ca href=\"https://ratskinrecords.bandcamp.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ratskin Records\u003c/a>, an experimental label with dozens of digital albums and vinyl records for sale on the platform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We know how capitalism works, and we’re in a very twisted stage of capitalism right now where nothing is as it seems,” Basu says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For years, Bandcamp has been hailed as the anti-Spotify because of its \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/08/19/903547253/a-tale-of-two-ecosystems-on-bandcamp-spotify-and-the-wide-open-future\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">artist-friendly business model\u003c/a>. So as news of the acquisition spread through social media, many independent artists reacted with skepticism. After all, up until it was bought by Epic, Bandcamp was a small, privately-held company whose growth since its founding in 2008 has been slow, although profitable. Music and artist merchandise are its main products, but founder Ethan Diamond likens it to Etsy—a place for craftspeople to connect directly with customers—rather than the streaming giants one might assume are its competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13857471']For independent artists who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13890093/2020-decimated-the-concert-industry-and-it-cant-rebuild-without-government-help\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">lost most of their income from pandemic show cancellations\u003c/a>, Bandcamp has been a life raft: \u003ca href=\"https://isitbandcampfriday.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">every First Friday\u003c/a>, it waives its service fees and allows artists to take home the full proceeds from their sales. And for the rest of the month, artists take home an average of 82% of what customers pay for their songs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From a tech company standpoint, it’s not the most lucrative way of doing things. But that’s the point: Bandcamp has grown a loyal global user base of people who take pride in supporting their favorite artists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what does Epic, a company with a $28.7 billion valuation as of 2021 and \u003ca href=\"https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/announcing-a-1-billion-funding-round-to-support-epics-long-term-vision-for-the-metaverse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ambitions in the metaverse\u003c/a>, plan to do with Bandcamp, a modest platform with just over 100 employees?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13908924\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13908924\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A portrait of electronic musician Sharmi Basu with their dog Beni at the Oakland rose garden.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Electronic musician Sharmi Basu is the executive director of Ratskin Records. \u003ccite>(Nastia Voynovskaya)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I just really worry about a company coming in and buying them for—I don’t know why,” says \u003ca href=\"https://www.dadadrummer.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Damon Krukowski\u003c/a>, a musician and writer based in Cambridge, Massachusetts whose new book and podcast, \u003cem>Ways of Hearing\u003c/em>, examines music listening in the digital age. “I mean, that’s the problem, because [Bandcamp is] not profitable enough, it wouldn’t seem, to interest a multibillion-dollar business like Epic Games. And that’s what’s distressing. It’s like, ‘Well, what are they going to do with it?’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s really worrisome to me because I’ve lived through several cycles of creative, independent activities in music being absorbed by larger, more mainstream corporations,” says Krukowski, who has worked in the music industry since the late 1980s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although a representative for Epic Games and Bandcamp declined to comment for this story, Epic’s recent foray into the world of \u003ca href=\"https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/fort-nite-concert-series-soundwave-global-artists-tones-and-i-mohamed-hamaki-1233168/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">virtual concerts\u003c/a> might offer some insight into why it could be interested in Bandcamp. Since 2020, when the pandemic shut down the concert industry, \u003ci>Fortnite\u003c/i> hosted “shows” by Travis Scott, Ariana Grande and J Balvin within the video game, which operates as an ever-expanding virtual world. More recently, in the fall of 2021, its virtual concerts grew beyond stars with American followings to international artists like Egyptian singer Mohamed Hamaki, France’s Aya Nakamura, Brazilian rapper Emicida and Japanese singer Gen Hoshino.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“\u003ci>Fortnite\u003c/i> is evolving from a battle royale game to a global social entertainment platform. It’s really important we start on a regional level as we look for talent, and these regions we chose have some of the most positive and engaged \u003cem>Fortnite\u003c/em> communities,” Emily Levy, senior partnerships manager at Epic Games, told \u003ca href=\"https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/fort-nite-concert-series-soundwave-global-artists-tones-and-i-mohamed-hamaki-1233168/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003ci>Rolling Stone\u003c/i>\u003c/a> in September 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, any speculation of what awaits Bandcamp and its artists is still just guesswork. The \u003ca href=\"https://blog.bandcamp.com/2022/03/02/bandcamp-is-joining-epic/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">press releases\u003c/a> Epic and Bandcamp put out about the acquisition promised to keep the business model the same and emphasized both companies’ dedication to supporting independent artists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The products and services you depend on aren’t going anywhere,” wrote Diamond, the Bandcamp founder. “However, behind the scenes we’re working with Epic to expand internationally and push development forward across Bandcamp, from basics like our album pages, mobile apps, merch tools, payment system, and search and discovery features, to newer initiatives like our vinyl pressing and live streaming services.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13910315\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13910315\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12-800x508.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"508\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12-800x508.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12-160x102.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12-768x488.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12.jpg 1008w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Writer Damon Krukowski is one half of musical duo Damon and Naomi. \u003ccite>(Anabel Vazquez Rodriguez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Still, some industry insiders are worried that this promise won’t be guaranteed. “There’s almost no time in history that somebody who has been acquired has said, ‘Nothing is going to change, this is just a merger, or whatever you want to call it,’ and that that’s actually happened. It’s not a real thing,” says Patrick Brown, owner of \u003ca href=\"https://www.textmerecords.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Text Me Records\u003c/a>, a San Francisco independent label that sells music on Bandcamp. “Even if it takes a year, something eventually changes because it’s new management.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The hope is that it creates opportunities and visibility for independent artists,” he adds. “Whether or not that’s the case, I’m not sure.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Theoretically, song licensing in Epic’s video games could present a money-making opportunity for artists. But “it’s not something that I think any of us can make a determination on until they’ve already done this and released their financials,” says Marshall Moran, a Brooklyn musician and steering committee member of \u003ca href=\"https://www.unionofmusicians.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Union of Musicians and Allied Workers\u003c/a>, a group that advocates for fair wages. “But unfortunately, transparency is always a difficult issue.” [aside postid='arts_13893952']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indeed, Bandcamp’s transparency about its financials are a rarity in the music, tech and digital entertainment worlds. In contrast, artists have had to work backwards to calculate Spotify’s pay rates, which are widely believed to amount to $0.0038 per stream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the digital music landscape, Bandcamp is the company artists perceive to be on their side. And because independent artists’ ability to make a living has been undermined over and over again—because of the pandemic, low streaming rates or \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13846754/in-2018-corporate-monotony-seized-san-francisco-music-venues\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">corporate giants Goldenvoice and LiveNation buying out independent venues\u003c/a>—many are looking at Epic’s acquisition of the platform with trepidation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a little scary,” says Tracy Wilson, a musician and owner of the Richmond, Virginia-based independent music distributor \u003ca href=\"https://courtesydesk.bigcartel.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Courtesy Desk\u003c/a>. “Genuinely the last thing any independent artist wants to be given is even more question marks and more uncertainty because our landscape has been nothing but a slippery slope of bad news.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Bandcamp is known for paying musicians fairly. Now, many worry this could change under new ownership.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705007109,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":1171},"headData":{"title":"What Does Bandcamp’s Sale to Epic Games Mean for Independent Musicians? | KQED","description":"Bandcamp is known for paying musicians fairly. Now, many worry this could change under new ownership.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"What Does Bandcamp’s Sale to Epic Games Mean for Independent Musicians?","datePublished":"2022-03-09T23:04:48.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T21:05:09.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/arts/13910312/what-does-bandcamps-sale-to-epic-games-mean-for-independent-musicians","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>On March 2, musicians who sell their work through Bandcamp got a surprise email: the Oakland-based music ecommerce platform was being acquired by Epic Games, creator of the video game \u003ci>Fortnite\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Honestly, I was really confused,” says Oakland electronic artist Sharmi Basu. Basu is the executive director of \u003ca href=\"https://ratskinrecords.bandcamp.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ratskin Records\u003c/a>, an experimental label with dozens of digital albums and vinyl records for sale on the platform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We know how capitalism works, and we’re in a very twisted stage of capitalism right now where nothing is as it seems,” Basu says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For years, Bandcamp has been hailed as the anti-Spotify because of its \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/08/19/903547253/a-tale-of-two-ecosystems-on-bandcamp-spotify-and-the-wide-open-future\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">artist-friendly business model\u003c/a>. So as news of the acquisition spread through social media, many independent artists reacted with skepticism. After all, up until it was bought by Epic, Bandcamp was a small, privately-held company whose growth since its founding in 2008 has been slow, although profitable. Music and artist merchandise are its main products, but founder Ethan Diamond likens it to Etsy—a place for craftspeople to connect directly with customers—rather than the streaming giants one might assume are its competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13857471","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>For independent artists who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13890093/2020-decimated-the-concert-industry-and-it-cant-rebuild-without-government-help\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">lost most of their income from pandemic show cancellations\u003c/a>, Bandcamp has been a life raft: \u003ca href=\"https://isitbandcampfriday.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">every First Friday\u003c/a>, it waives its service fees and allows artists to take home the full proceeds from their sales. And for the rest of the month, artists take home an average of 82% of what customers pay for their songs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From a tech company standpoint, it’s not the most lucrative way of doing things. But that’s the point: Bandcamp has grown a loyal global user base of people who take pride in supporting their favorite artists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what does Epic, a company with a $28.7 billion valuation as of 2021 and \u003ca href=\"https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/announcing-a-1-billion-funding-round-to-support-epics-long-term-vision-for-the-metaverse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ambitions in the metaverse\u003c/a>, plan to do with Bandcamp, a modest platform with just over 100 employees?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13908924\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13908924\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A portrait of electronic musician Sharmi Basu with their dog Beni at the Oakland rose garden.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/02/sharmi2.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Electronic musician Sharmi Basu is the executive director of Ratskin Records. \u003ccite>(Nastia Voynovskaya)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I just really worry about a company coming in and buying them for—I don’t know why,” says \u003ca href=\"https://www.dadadrummer.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Damon Krukowski\u003c/a>, a musician and writer based in Cambridge, Massachusetts whose new book and podcast, \u003cem>Ways of Hearing\u003c/em>, examines music listening in the digital age. “I mean, that’s the problem, because [Bandcamp is] not profitable enough, it wouldn’t seem, to interest a multibillion-dollar business like Epic Games. And that’s what’s distressing. It’s like, ‘Well, what are they going to do with it?’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s really worrisome to me because I’ve lived through several cycles of creative, independent activities in music being absorbed by larger, more mainstream corporations,” says Krukowski, who has worked in the music industry since the late 1980s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although a representative for Epic Games and Bandcamp declined to comment for this story, Epic’s recent foray into the world of \u003ca href=\"https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/fort-nite-concert-series-soundwave-global-artists-tones-and-i-mohamed-hamaki-1233168/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">virtual concerts\u003c/a> might offer some insight into why it could be interested in Bandcamp. Since 2020, when the pandemic shut down the concert industry, \u003ci>Fortnite\u003c/i> hosted “shows” by Travis Scott, Ariana Grande and J Balvin within the video game, which operates as an ever-expanding virtual world. More recently, in the fall of 2021, its virtual concerts grew beyond stars with American followings to international artists like Egyptian singer Mohamed Hamaki, France’s Aya Nakamura, Brazilian rapper Emicida and Japanese singer Gen Hoshino.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“\u003ci>Fortnite\u003c/i> is evolving from a battle royale game to a global social entertainment platform. It’s really important we start on a regional level as we look for talent, and these regions we chose have some of the most positive and engaged \u003cem>Fortnite\u003c/em> communities,” Emily Levy, senior partnerships manager at Epic Games, told \u003ca href=\"https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/fort-nite-concert-series-soundwave-global-artists-tones-and-i-mohamed-hamaki-1233168/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003ci>Rolling Stone\u003c/i>\u003c/a> in September 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, any speculation of what awaits Bandcamp and its artists is still just guesswork. The \u003ca href=\"https://blog.bandcamp.com/2022/03/02/bandcamp-is-joining-epic/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">press releases\u003c/a> Epic and Bandcamp put out about the acquisition promised to keep the business model the same and emphasized both companies’ dedication to supporting independent artists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The products and services you depend on aren’t going anywhere,” wrote Diamond, the Bandcamp founder. “However, behind the scenes we’re working with Epic to expand internationally and push development forward across Bandcamp, from basics like our album pages, mobile apps, merch tools, payment system, and search and discovery features, to newer initiatives like our vinyl pressing and live streaming services.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13910315\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13910315\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12-800x508.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"508\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12-800x508.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12-160x102.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12-768x488.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/03/damon_naomi.12.jpg 1008w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Writer Damon Krukowski is one half of musical duo Damon and Naomi. \u003ccite>(Anabel Vazquez Rodriguez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Still, some industry insiders are worried that this promise won’t be guaranteed. “There’s almost no time in history that somebody who has been acquired has said, ‘Nothing is going to change, this is just a merger, or whatever you want to call it,’ and that that’s actually happened. It’s not a real thing,” says Patrick Brown, owner of \u003ca href=\"https://www.textmerecords.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Text Me Records\u003c/a>, a San Francisco independent label that sells music on Bandcamp. “Even if it takes a year, something eventually changes because it’s new management.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The hope is that it creates opportunities and visibility for independent artists,” he adds. “Whether or not that’s the case, I’m not sure.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Theoretically, song licensing in Epic’s video games could present a money-making opportunity for artists. But “it’s not something that I think any of us can make a determination on until they’ve already done this and released their financials,” says Marshall Moran, a Brooklyn musician and steering committee member of \u003ca href=\"https://www.unionofmusicians.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Union of Musicians and Allied Workers\u003c/a>, a group that advocates for fair wages. “But unfortunately, transparency is always a difficult issue.” \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13893952","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indeed, Bandcamp’s transparency about its financials are a rarity in the music, tech and digital entertainment worlds. In contrast, artists have had to work backwards to calculate Spotify’s pay rates, which are widely believed to amount to $0.0038 per stream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the digital music landscape, Bandcamp is the company artists perceive to be on their side. And because independent artists’ ability to make a living has been undermined over and over again—because of the pandemic, low streaming rates or \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13846754/in-2018-corporate-monotony-seized-san-francisco-music-venues\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">corporate giants Goldenvoice and LiveNation buying out independent venues\u003c/a>—many are looking at Epic’s acquisition of the platform with trepidation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a little scary,” says Tracy Wilson, a musician and owner of the Richmond, Virginia-based independent music distributor \u003ca href=\"https://courtesydesk.bigcartel.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Courtesy Desk\u003c/a>. “Genuinely the last thing any independent artist wants to be given is even more question marks and more uncertainty because our landscape has been nothing but a slippery slope of bad news.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13910312/what-does-bandcamps-sale-to-epic-games-mean-for-independent-musicians","authors":["11387"],"categories":["arts_1"],"tags":["arts_6425","arts_10342","arts_10278","arts_3140","arts_3338","arts_21264"],"featImg":"arts_13848951","label":"arts"},"arts_13900577":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13900577","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13900577","score":null,"sort":[1628096197000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"interns-turned-engineers-take-the-reins-at-sfs-historic-different-fur-studios","title":"Interns Turned Engineers Take the Reins at SF’s Historic Different Fur Studios","publishDate":1628096197,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Interns Turned Engineers Take the Reins at SF’s Historic Different Fur Studios | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>Grace Coleman was fine-tuning a mix in her garage during the pandemic lockdown last year when she got an unexpected call from her boss, Patrick Brown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was like, ‘Oh, man.’ Because if he calls you, it’s an emergency,” says the audio engineer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To her surprise, Brown had good news. He explained that he had become too busy with his music label, Text Me Records, to keep up with demand at his recording space, \u003ca href=\"https://differentfurstudios.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Different Fur Studios\u003c/a>. He wanted to see whether Coleman wanted to take over Different Fur while he focused on Text Me, and whether she wanted to co-own the business with her longtime friend and colleague Lien Do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At first, Coleman and Do were intimidated. Though they have a combined 14 years of engineering experience, neither had ever owned a business. COVID-19 restrictions hadn’t yet lifted when Brown made the offer, and demand for studio time slowed down pretty substantially in 2020. Artists lost income from canceled tours and couldn’t afford to record, and they weren’t rehearsing new material anyway out of fear of spreading the virus. The entire studio ecosystem had been disrupted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I kept refusing, actually, until I knew that I was doing it with Grace,” Do says when I meet the pair at Different Fur, nestled between cocktail bars and taquerias in San Francisco’s Mission District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We sit behind a wall-length mixing console from the 1980s, with a pane of glass separating us from a vocal booth, drum kit and collection of guitars and keyboards. Warm lighting and well-worn Persian rugs give the space a homey vibe, until you notice the Gold and Platinum RIAA plaques on the walls and remember that Herbie Hancock, Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind & Fire have recorded within these walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13900385\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13900385\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-800x575.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"575\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-800x575.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-1020x733.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-160x115.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-768x552.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-1536x1103.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lien Do and Grace Coleman admire the Gold and Platinum plaques the RIAA awarded to Different Fur Studios for The Whispers’ album ‘Just Gets Better With Time.’ \u003ccite>(Nastia Voynovskaya/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Different Fur has been a San Francisco institution since 1968. The magnitude of its legacy, and the chance to shape its future, prompted Do to put aside their doubt. It also helped that Brown owns the building (Different Fur is downstairs and Text Me Records’ headquarters is upstairs), and that he handed them the keys to the business without a price tag. “I thought for a while about how cool of an opportunity that could be, because I don’t really know many recording studios that are female-led and queer-led,” they say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although recording studios tend to be male-dominated environments (\u003ca href=\"https://womensaudiomission.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Women’s Audio Mission\u003c/a> estimates that women and gender-nonconforming people make up less than 5% of engineers), Different Fur had always been an outlier. Longtime studio manager \u003ca href=\"https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/music/susan-skaggs-magnetic-mother-and-co-owner-of-different-fur-studios-is-dead-at-80\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Susan Skaggs\u003c/a> bought the business from founding owner Patrick Gleeson in 1986 and co-owned it with engineer Howard Johnston until 2004. [aside postid='arts_13854644']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Skaggs and Johnston ushered Different Fur from the analog era into the digital. They also made the studio a welcoming space for LGBTQ+ and women artists, including disco star Sylvester, Two Tons O’ Fun (who later became the Weather Girls of “It’s Raining Men” fame) and early electronic music producer Patrick Cowley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Patrick Brown started out as a Different Fur intern and bought the business in 2008. In 2013, Coleman came on as Brown’s intern after finishing an audio engineering program at Expression College. Do followed in 2015 after studying ethnomusicology and percussion at UC Davis. When Brown began thinking about who could become his successors, the two of them stood out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s been a lot of work ethic on their part to show up, and care a lot about the space, and care a lot about their clients, and try to do the best,” says Brown. “To kind of state the obvious thing, I think it’s good also to have a shift in the people running the space.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13900381\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13900381\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">In the ’80s, Different Fur studios was the first in the Bay Area to adopt the SSL console, now an industry staple. \u003ccite>(Nastia Voynovskaya/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Though it has deep roots in jazz and soul, Different Fur now caters more to rap and indie rock, as well as voice-over and podcast work. Coleman’s engineering credits include rap-pop hybrid K.Flay, post-punks Pardoner and Australian country-folk artist Courtney Barnett. Do’s client list includes standout Bay Area rappers like G-Eazy, ALLBLACK and Rexx Life Raj, as well as bigger-name pop acts Diplo and Halsey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Together, the two new owners are eager to create a supportive space for Bay Area locals and touring acts, regardless of genre, gender or experience level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Channels of communication and understanding inherently become open when all different kinds of people can come into a space and create what they want to create,” Coleman says of the duo’s inclusive vision. [aside postid='arts_13897503']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coleman and Do join a rising tide of young, non-male engineers-turned-studio owners. Karina Flonnoy, a Women’s Audio Mission alum, just opened \u003ca href=\"https://www.studioxrecording.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Studio X\u003c/a> in Oakland. And Danielle Goldsmith and Sami Perez, previously of San Francisco’s Tiny Telephone Recording, opened \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/wiggleworldwide/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wiggle World\u003c/a> with their colleague Spencer Hartling in Los Angeles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With studios, you can be like, ‘This is my studio, this is my cave, these are my clients’—something weird and possessive,” Coleman says. “But it’s like, we all like the same stuff. We’re like nerds. We need to be friends and stick together and be happy for each other’s success.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Continuing the legacy of former owner Susan Skaggs, Lien Do and Grace Coleman are joining the Bay Area’s growing ranks of non-male music studio owners. 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He explained that he had become too busy with his music label, Text Me Records, to keep up with demand at his recording space, \u003ca href=\"https://differentfurstudios.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Different Fur Studios\u003c/a>. He wanted to see whether Coleman wanted to take over Different Fur while he focused on Text Me, and whether she wanted to co-own the business with her longtime friend and colleague Lien Do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At first, Coleman and Do were intimidated. Though they have a combined 14 years of engineering experience, neither had ever owned a business. COVID-19 restrictions hadn’t yet lifted when Brown made the offer, and demand for studio time slowed down pretty substantially in 2020. Artists lost income from canceled tours and couldn’t afford to record, and they weren’t rehearsing new material anyway out of fear of spreading the virus. The entire studio ecosystem had been disrupted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I kept refusing, actually, until I knew that I was doing it with Grace,” Do says when I meet the pair at Different Fur, nestled between cocktail bars and taquerias in San Francisco’s Mission District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We sit behind a wall-length mixing console from the 1980s, with a pane of glass separating us from a vocal booth, drum kit and collection of guitars and keyboards. Warm lighting and well-worn Persian rugs give the space a homey vibe, until you notice the Gold and Platinum RIAA plaques on the walls and remember that Herbie Hancock, Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind & Fire have recorded within these walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13900385\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13900385\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-800x575.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"575\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-800x575.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-1020x733.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-160x115.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-768x552.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605-1536x1103.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5605.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lien Do and Grace Coleman admire the Gold and Platinum plaques the RIAA awarded to Different Fur Studios for The Whispers’ album ‘Just Gets Better With Time.’ \u003ccite>(Nastia Voynovskaya/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Different Fur has been a San Francisco institution since 1968. The magnitude of its legacy, and the chance to shape its future, prompted Do to put aside their doubt. It also helped that Brown owns the building (Different Fur is downstairs and Text Me Records’ headquarters is upstairs), and that he handed them the keys to the business without a price tag. “I thought for a while about how cool of an opportunity that could be, because I don’t really know many recording studios that are female-led and queer-led,” they say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although recording studios tend to be male-dominated environments (\u003ca href=\"https://womensaudiomission.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Women’s Audio Mission\u003c/a> estimates that women and gender-nonconforming people make up less than 5% of engineers), Different Fur had always been an outlier. Longtime studio manager \u003ca href=\"https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/music/susan-skaggs-magnetic-mother-and-co-owner-of-different-fur-studios-is-dead-at-80\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Susan Skaggs\u003c/a> bought the business from founding owner Patrick Gleeson in 1986 and co-owned it with engineer Howard Johnston until 2004. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13854644","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Skaggs and Johnston ushered Different Fur from the analog era into the digital. They also made the studio a welcoming space for LGBTQ+ and women artists, including disco star Sylvester, Two Tons O’ Fun (who later became the Weather Girls of “It’s Raining Men” fame) and early electronic music producer Patrick Cowley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Patrick Brown started out as a Different Fur intern and bought the business in 2008. In 2013, Coleman came on as Brown’s intern after finishing an audio engineering program at Expression College. Do followed in 2015 after studying ethnomusicology and percussion at UC Davis. When Brown began thinking about who could become his successors, the two of them stood out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s been a lot of work ethic on their part to show up, and care a lot about the space, and care a lot about their clients, and try to do the best,” says Brown. “To kind of state the obvious thing, I think it’s good also to have a shift in the people running the space.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13900381\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13900381\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/IMG_5582.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">In the ’80s, Different Fur studios was the first in the Bay Area to adopt the SSL console, now an industry staple. \u003ccite>(Nastia Voynovskaya/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Though it has deep roots in jazz and soul, Different Fur now caters more to rap and indie rock, as well as voice-over and podcast work. Coleman’s engineering credits include rap-pop hybrid K.Flay, post-punks Pardoner and Australian country-folk artist Courtney Barnett. Do’s client list includes standout Bay Area rappers like G-Eazy, ALLBLACK and Rexx Life Raj, as well as bigger-name pop acts Diplo and Halsey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Together, the two new owners are eager to create a supportive space for Bay Area locals and touring acts, regardless of genre, gender or experience level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Channels of communication and understanding inherently become open when all different kinds of people can come into a space and create what they want to create,” Coleman says of the duo’s inclusive vision. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13897503","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coleman and Do join a rising tide of young, non-male engineers-turned-studio owners. Karina Flonnoy, a Women’s Audio Mission alum, just opened \u003ca href=\"https://www.studioxrecording.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Studio X\u003c/a> in Oakland. And Danielle Goldsmith and Sami Perez, previously of San Francisco’s Tiny Telephone Recording, opened \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/wiggleworldwide/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wiggle World\u003c/a> with their colleague Spencer Hartling in Los Angeles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With studios, you can be like, ‘This is my studio, this is my cave, these are my clients’—something weird and possessive,” Coleman says. “But it’s like, we all like the same stuff. We’re like nerds. We need to be friends and stick together and be happy for each other’s success.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13900577/interns-turned-engineers-take-the-reins-at-sfs-historic-different-fur-studios","authors":["11387"],"categories":["arts_1"],"tags":["arts_10342","arts_10278","arts_9788","arts_3338"],"featImg":"arts_13900383","label":"arts"},"arts_13859615":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13859615","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13859615","score":null,"sort":[1578654049000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"rightnowish-rap-producer-drew-banga-on-music-and-fatherhood","title":"Drew Banga’s Musical Notes on Fatherhood","publishDate":1578654049,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Drew Banga’s Musical Notes on Fatherhood | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>If you like Bay Area hip-hop and haven’t heard of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13811320/behind-the-beats-drew-banga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Drew Banga\u003c/a>, chances are you’ve heard his music. He’s the producer behind some of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/12064915/meet-23-year-old-caleborate-the-east-bays-next-rap-titan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Caleborate\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13830210/with-brutal-honesty-oaklands-allblack-reaches-toward-peace\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ALLBLACK\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13817414/the-10-best-bay-area-albums-of-2017-rexx-life-raj-father-figure-2-flourish\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rexx Life Raj\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13816944/the-10-best-bay-area-albums-of-2017-1-o-a-k-riding-in-cars-with-girls\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1-O.A.K.\u003c/a>‘s biggest songs. And recently, he and his frequent collaborator Bosslife Big Spence released the title track off their project \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/bosslifebigspence/10k-bosslife-big-spence-pd-by-drew-banga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">10K\u003c/a>. \u003c/em>It’s in early contention to become a standout song of the summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Drew might be his own competition, as he followed that single with co-producer credit (along with Trackademicks) on Kamaiyah’s latest single “\u003ca href=\"https://t.co/LMaBfxd6nn\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Windows\u003c/a>,” which features Quavo and Tyga.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Needless to say, Drew works a lot!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On top of all of that, Drew is a father. He often shares videos of his children dancing to his music and playing instruments. His personal and professional lives seem to overlap seamlessly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I talked to Drew about his approach to music and fatherhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>A shorter version of this episode was first broadcast on June 14, 2019.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Drew Banga is responsible for some of Kamaiyah and Rexx Life Raj's best-known songs, but his biggest job is fatherhood. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705021528,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":8,"wordCount":176},"headData":{"title":"Drew Banga’s Musical Notes on Fatherhood | KQED","description":"Drew Banga is responsible for some of Kamaiyah and Rexx Life Raj's best-known songs, but his biggest job is fatherhood. 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He’s the producer behind some of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/12064915/meet-23-year-old-caleborate-the-east-bays-next-rap-titan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Caleborate\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13830210/with-brutal-honesty-oaklands-allblack-reaches-toward-peace\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ALLBLACK\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13817414/the-10-best-bay-area-albums-of-2017-rexx-life-raj-father-figure-2-flourish\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rexx Life Raj\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13816944/the-10-best-bay-area-albums-of-2017-1-o-a-k-riding-in-cars-with-girls\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1-O.A.K.\u003c/a>‘s biggest songs. And recently, he and his frequent collaborator Bosslife Big Spence released the title track off their project \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/bosslifebigspence/10k-bosslife-big-spence-pd-by-drew-banga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">10K\u003c/a>. \u003c/em>It’s in early contention to become a standout song of the summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Drew might be his own competition, as he followed that single with co-producer credit (along with Trackademicks) on Kamaiyah’s latest single “\u003ca href=\"https://t.co/LMaBfxd6nn\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Windows\u003c/a>,” which features Quavo and Tyga.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Needless to say, Drew works a lot!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On top of all of that, Drew is a father. He often shares videos of his children dancing to his music and playing instruments. His personal and professional lives seem to overlap seamlessly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I talked to Drew about his approach to music and fatherhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>A shorter version of this episode was first broadcast on June 14, 2019.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13859615/rightnowish-rap-producer-drew-banga-on-music-and-fatherhood","authors":["11491"],"programs":["arts_8720"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_835","arts_69"],"tags":["arts_1118","arts_831","arts_1558","arts_9788","arts_6764","arts_3338"],"featImg":"arts_13859638","label":"source_arts_13859615"},"arts_13843411":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13843411","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13843411","score":null,"sort":[1540408366000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"bay-area-record-fest-spotlights-local-indie-labels-and-musicians","title":"Bay Area Record Fest Spotlights Local Indie Labels and Musicians","publishDate":1540408366,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Bay Area Record Fest Spotlights Local Indie Labels and Musicians | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":140,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>Historically speaking, not many Bay Area artists have signed major label deals. But what the region lacks in mainstream exposure, we make up for with ingenuity. Enter \u003ca href=\"http://www.bayarearecordfair.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bay Area Record Fest\u003c/a>, or BARF for short, a live music showcase and vinyl sale at Eli’s Mile High Club on Nov. 3 that provides an opportunity to get to know some of the Bay’s most prolific indie labels.[contextly_sidebar id=”5AogjXL4BLC1FHDI59gXuu10LPWkJxDX”]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>BARF stars San Francisco rock’n’roll revivalists \u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/emptycellarrecords/cool-ghouls-the-mile\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cool Ghouls\u003c/a>, a quartet repping the City’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.emptycellarrecords.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Empty Cellar Records\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://newcircle.bandcamp.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New Circle\u003c/a>, from the rock label \u003ca href=\"https://smokingroom-label.bandcamp.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Smoking Room\u003c/a>, round out the bill with Oakland post-punk. 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And \u003ca href=\"https://www.textmerecords.com/same-girls/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Same Girls\u003c/a>, a San Francisco trio, brings shoegaze and garage rock to the stage on behalf of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13816703/can-text-me-records-become-san-franciscos-new-hit-factory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Text Me Records\u003c/a>, the Mission District-based songwriting powerhouse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>BARF is free and its raffle benefits \u003ca href=\"http://candaid.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Can’d Aid Foundation\u003c/a>, which provides musical instruments to public schools. Details \u003ca href=\"http://www.bayarearecordfair.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The free mini festival comes to Eli's Mile High Club on Nov. 3. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705027101,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":5,"wordCount":198},"headData":{"title":"Bay Area Record Fest Spotlights Local Indie Labels and Musicians | KQED","description":"The free mini festival comes to Eli's Mile High Club on Nov. 3. 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Enter \u003ca href=\"http://www.bayarearecordfair.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bay Area Record Fest\u003c/a>, or BARF for short, a live music showcase and vinyl sale at Eli’s Mile High Club on Nov. 3 that provides an opportunity to get to know some of the Bay’s most prolific indie labels.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>BARF stars San Francisco rock’n’roll revivalists \u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/emptycellarrecords/cool-ghouls-the-mile\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cool Ghouls\u003c/a>, a quartet repping the City’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.emptycellarrecords.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Empty Cellar Records\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://newcircle.bandcamp.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New Circle\u003c/a>, from the rock label \u003ca href=\"https://smokingroom-label.bandcamp.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Smoking Room\u003c/a>, round out the bill with Oakland post-punk. \u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>Oakland’s \u003ca href=\"https://spellling.bandcamp.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spellling\u003c/a>, a sorceress on the keyboard and loop pedal, promises to spellbind audiences on behalf of\u003ca href=\"https://www.ratskin.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> Ratskin Records\u003c/a>, the Town’s foremost experimental electronic label. And \u003ca href=\"https://www.textmerecords.com/same-girls/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Same Girls\u003c/a>, a San Francisco trio, brings shoegaze and garage rock to the stage on behalf of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13816703/can-text-me-records-become-san-franciscos-new-hit-factory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Text Me Records\u003c/a>, the Mission District-based songwriting powerhouse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>BARF is free and its raffle benefits \u003ca href=\"http://candaid.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Can’d Aid Foundation\u003c/a>, which provides musical instruments to public schools. Details \u003ca href=\"http://www.bayarearecordfair.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13843411/bay-area-record-fest-spotlights-local-indie-labels-and-musicians","authors":["11387"],"programs":["arts_140"],"categories":["arts_69"],"tags":["arts_1118","arts_3140","arts_3338"],"featImg":"arts_13829093","label":"arts_140"},"arts_13816703":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13816703","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13816703","score":null,"sort":[1512516369000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"can-text-me-records-become-san-franciscos-new-hit-factory","title":"Can Text Me Records Become San Francisco's New Hit Factory?","publishDate":1512516369,"format":"image","headTitle":"Can Text Me Records Become San Francisco’s New Hit Factory? | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>It’s hard to imagine how \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT-UNWGhVAU&feature=youtu.be\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MVCK\u003c/a> can be comfortably wearing a sweatshirt and knit hat right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rapper is here working on a song in a crowded room at Different Fur Studios in San Francisco. Reading from his phone, he’s reciting, then reworking, then trying his verse again as his producer, Tim Vickers, sits in front of a monitor. Vickers stares straight ahead, occasionally giving MVCK feedback during lulls in his flow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sticky heat of hard work — and bodies squeezed into a small room — emanates from the open door. But that’s how things go at \u003ca href=\"https://www.textmerecords.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Text Me Records\u003c/a>, where working in whatever space is available, regardless of personal comfort, is the norm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Text Me, which launched this year out of \u003ca href=\"http://differentfurstudios.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Different Fur Studios\u003c/a>, is a new record label with potential to become San Francisco’s new pop factory. Vickers is one of Text Me’s 14 staff songwriters, a job title one would expect to see at one of the “big four” major labels, like Universal or Sony — certainly not an indie upstart in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13816725\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Text me Records founder Patrick Brown at Cafe Du Nord in San Francisco.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13816725\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Text me Records founder Patrick Brown at Cafe Du Nord in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Kristina Bakrevski)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Artists come to us to solve a problem they can’t solve alone,” says Patrick Brown, owner of Different Fur and founder of Text Me. “Sometimes it’s not having a producer to collaborate with or songs written. Sometimes the problem is not having enough money to mix their record the way they want to.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With album sales at an \u003ca href=\"https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7430863/2016-soundscan-nielsen-music-mid-year-album-sales-sink-streaming-growth\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">all-time low\u003c/a>, independent artists typically don’t have the budget to cover the professional services that come with a record deal. But Text Me affords local rookie musicians a polish and professionalism they might not otherwise have access to, especially in the Bay Area — a region notorious for its lack of mainstream music industry infrastructure. It seems to be working: Mars Today’s “Cool It,” released on the label in March, recently surpassed two million plays on Spotify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[soundcloud url=”https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/318501823″ params=”color=#ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&show_teaser=true” width=”100%” height=”166″ iframe=”true” /]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The funny part about it is the label was never the original goal,” says Brown. “It’s become the thing that people know and see, but it wasn’t really supposed to be the end result of everything. It was supposed to be the side thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown started his career as Different Fur’s intern in 2004, and he’s always had ideas that were a bit too big for the building. He bought said building in 2007 to save the studio from bankruptcy, for starters. He didn’t want to see it get knocked down and turned into condos, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few years before Text Me took shape, many people in the \u003ca href=\"http://thebaybridged.com/2013/12/17/art-technology-part-i-the-state-of-the-bay-area-from-the-musicians-perspective/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">local music community\u003c/a> bemoaned the mass exodus of musicians to cities with sturdier music industries, and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.yelp.com/biz/faultline-studios-san-francisco-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">shuttering\u003c/a> of several local recording studios in their wake. But for Brown, this was a creative catalyst rather than a hindrance. “I don’t have a lot of patience for like, ‘What do I do?,’ you know? Or like, ‘This doesn’t exist.’ Okay, well, it doesn’t exist. Go make it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first people he tapped were Bobby Renz and Tim Vickers, two Different Fur employees who had been looking for opportunities to be more involved. Will Butler, Bobbi Rohs, Tavahn Ghazi, and Lien Do — all musicians in Different Fur’s orbit — soon followed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[soundcloud url=”https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/339511023″ params=”color=#ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&show_teaser=true” width=”100%” height=”166″ iframe=”true” /]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Text Me’s first official release was Mars Today’s sun-drenched pop track “Winnin,” followed by releases from R&B alchemist William Robert; measured, magnetic rapper Lord Morgan; and Bobbi Bobby, a joint project between Text Me’s two Bobbies: Bobbi Rohs and Bobby Renz. Recently, Text Me songs have found their way onto influential Spotify \u003ca href=\"https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX5VxYDK98w7B\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">playlists\u003c/a>: The exciting, intricate collaboration between signees \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2017/10/19/behind-the-beats-julia-lewis/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Julia Lewis\u003c/a> and Elujay, “On the Regular,” landed on two of the company’s \u003ca href=\"https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX5NUxyYpdUPH\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">“Best of 2017”\u003c/a> lists. The roster, at this juncture, leans heavily toward R&B and hip-hop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the hip-hop community, Different Fur is starting to become like a hub,” says studio manager Jorge Hernandez, who is also Different Fur’s go-to hip-hop engineer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it wasn’t always that way. When Hernandez started in 2011, Different Fur was serving a lot of garage rock. “It stems back to like the early ‘90s, but as far as in the Bay Area … there weren’t engineers that were solely focused on hip-hop, there weren’t studios that were built for hip-hop,” says Hernandez.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13816726\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-800x534.jpg\" alt=\"Text Me Records engineer Jorge Hernandez (center) in a session with artists Channel Tres and 1-O.A.K. at New Monkey Studios in Van Nuys.\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13816726\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-768x513.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Text Me Records engineer Jorge Hernandez (center) in a session with artists Channel Tres and 1-O.A.K. at New Monkey Studios in Van Nuys. \u003ccite>(Demian Becerra)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“There’s so much built-in garage rock history,” says Brown, adding that studios in the region catered largely to full bands, making it hard for artists of other genres to break through. “We have a great live community here, but from a recording and production standpoint, there’s not a lot of support.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between Hernandez’s experience in local hip-hop circles and Brown’s knowledge of the genre, they began to seek out local rappers for recording. It was a marriage of personal interest and practicality — rock bands, by nature, are groups of musicians, whereas rappers and singers often operate alone. The fewer people there are in the studio, the more streamlined the recording process is for the staff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Bay Area indie rap … is in a really cool place right now,” says Brown. “Those artists seem more motivated and seem to understand how to work the industry a little better than the rock bands that have held reign here for so long.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though any job that starts with the word “staff” conjures up ideas of nine-to-five rigidity, Text Me can’t avoid the less formal features of startup life that define office culture in the area. The line between artists and songwriter is pretty permeable — Do, Rohs, and Renz are all performers-slash-songwriters for the label — and the whole songwriting process is less stringent than it might seem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13816727\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Seattle band SISTERS recording their album, 'Wait Don't Wait' -- Text Me Records' first release as a production company -- at Different Fur Studios. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13816727\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Seattle band SISTERS recording their album, ‘Wait Don’t Wait’ — Text Me Records’ first release as a production company — at Different Fur Studios. \u003ccite>(Erin Conger)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Take MVCK, for instance, who made his formal debut this year on Caleborate’s \u003cem>Real Person\u003c/em>. Hernandez caught wind of him after Text Me producer \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2017/10/17/behind-the-beats-drew-banga/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Drew Banga\u003c/a> brought him to a session at Different Fur and immediately asked him to record. “The way the relationship started was just random,” MVCK says in between verses. “Let’s make an EP and see what we have at that point; see what we can do with it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Text Me team takes company retreats to LA, where they hole up and writes songs for days on end. And there are free snacks — \u003ca href=\"https://www.chowhound.com/post/soylent-protein-powder-silicon-valleys-techies-1016043\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Soylent\u003c/a>, even — in the break room. “It’s essentially another — I don’t want to use the word startup — but it’s essentially another startup,” says Brown. “We’re starting something new.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just like how he didn’t want Different Fur to turn into condos, Brown doesn’t want the Bay Area’s recording industry to disappear, either. That’s what Text Me is for: A springboard for Bay Area musicians to rise to the next level instead of bemoaning their lack of local options and, eventually, moving to Los Angeles or New York.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The overall goal for everyone is sustainability,” Brown says. By setting artists up with a capable team, Text Me takes some of the risk out of being an independent musician in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The starving artist thing is a shitty cliché that people buy into,” says Brown. “And it’s a disservice to the artists and everyone involved in the making of music. We gotta end that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-800x78.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The new label offers rookie artists a polish and professionalism rarely afforded to indie musicians in the Bay Area.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705028971,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":1507},"headData":{"title":"Can Text Me Records Become San Francisco's New Hit Factory? | KQED","description":"The new label offers rookie artists a polish and professionalism rarely afforded to indie musicians in the Bay Area.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Can Text Me Records Become San Francisco's New Hit Factory?","datePublished":"2017-12-05T23:26:09.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-12T03:09:31.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"Jody Amable","path":"/arts/13816703/can-text-me-records-become-san-franciscos-new-hit-factory","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>It’s hard to imagine how \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT-UNWGhVAU&feature=youtu.be\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MVCK\u003c/a> can be comfortably wearing a sweatshirt and knit hat right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rapper is here working on a song in a crowded room at Different Fur Studios in San Francisco. Reading from his phone, he’s reciting, then reworking, then trying his verse again as his producer, Tim Vickers, sits in front of a monitor. Vickers stares straight ahead, occasionally giving MVCK feedback during lulls in his flow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sticky heat of hard work — and bodies squeezed into a small room — emanates from the open door. But that’s how things go at \u003ca href=\"https://www.textmerecords.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Text Me Records\u003c/a>, where working in whatever space is available, regardless of personal comfort, is the norm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Text Me, which launched this year out of \u003ca href=\"http://differentfurstudios.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Different Fur Studios\u003c/a>, is a new record label with potential to become San Francisco’s new pop factory. Vickers is one of Text Me’s 14 staff songwriters, a job title one would expect to see at one of the “big four” major labels, like Universal or Sony — certainly not an indie upstart in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13816725\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Text me Records founder Patrick Brown at Cafe Du Nord in San Francisco.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13816725\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/PATRICK_DUNORD-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Text me Records founder Patrick Brown at Cafe Du Nord in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Kristina Bakrevski)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Artists come to us to solve a problem they can’t solve alone,” says Patrick Brown, owner of Different Fur and founder of Text Me. “Sometimes it’s not having a producer to collaborate with or songs written. Sometimes the problem is not having enough money to mix their record the way they want to.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With album sales at an \u003ca href=\"https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7430863/2016-soundscan-nielsen-music-mid-year-album-sales-sink-streaming-growth\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">all-time low\u003c/a>, independent artists typically don’t have the budget to cover the professional services that come with a record deal. But Text Me affords local rookie musicians a polish and professionalism they might not otherwise have access to, especially in the Bay Area — a region notorious for its lack of mainstream music industry infrastructure. It seems to be working: Mars Today’s “Cool It,” released on the label in March, recently surpassed two million plays on Spotify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cdiv class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__shortcodes__shortcodeWrapper'>\n \u003ciframe width='”100%”' height='”166″'\n scrolling='no' frameborder='no'\n src='https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=”https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/318501823″&visual=true&”color=#ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&show_teaser=true”'\n title='”https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/318501823″'>\n \u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/div>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The funny part about it is the label was never the original goal,” says Brown. “It’s become the thing that people know and see, but it wasn’t really supposed to be the end result of everything. It was supposed to be the side thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown started his career as Different Fur’s intern in 2004, and he’s always had ideas that were a bit too big for the building. He bought said building in 2007 to save the studio from bankruptcy, for starters. He didn’t want to see it get knocked down and turned into condos, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few years before Text Me took shape, many people in the \u003ca href=\"http://thebaybridged.com/2013/12/17/art-technology-part-i-the-state-of-the-bay-area-from-the-musicians-perspective/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">local music community\u003c/a> bemoaned the mass exodus of musicians to cities with sturdier music industries, and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.yelp.com/biz/faultline-studios-san-francisco-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">shuttering\u003c/a> of several local recording studios in their wake. But for Brown, this was a creative catalyst rather than a hindrance. “I don’t have a lot of patience for like, ‘What do I do?,’ you know? Or like, ‘This doesn’t exist.’ Okay, well, it doesn’t exist. Go make it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first people he tapped were Bobby Renz and Tim Vickers, two Different Fur employees who had been looking for opportunities to be more involved. Will Butler, Bobbi Rohs, Tavahn Ghazi, and Lien Do — all musicians in Different Fur’s orbit — soon followed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cdiv class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__shortcodes__shortcodeWrapper'>\n \u003ciframe width='”100%”' height='”166″'\n scrolling='no' frameborder='no'\n src='https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=”https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/339511023″&visual=true&”color=#ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&show_teaser=true”'\n title='”https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/339511023″'>\n \u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/div>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Text Me’s first official release was Mars Today’s sun-drenched pop track “Winnin,” followed by releases from R&B alchemist William Robert; measured, magnetic rapper Lord Morgan; and Bobbi Bobby, a joint project between Text Me’s two Bobbies: Bobbi Rohs and Bobby Renz. Recently, Text Me songs have found their way onto influential Spotify \u003ca href=\"https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX5VxYDK98w7B\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">playlists\u003c/a>: The exciting, intricate collaboration between signees \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2017/10/19/behind-the-beats-julia-lewis/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Julia Lewis\u003c/a> and Elujay, “On the Regular,” landed on two of the company’s \u003ca href=\"https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX5NUxyYpdUPH\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">“Best of 2017”\u003c/a> lists. The roster, at this juncture, leans heavily toward R&B and hip-hop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the hip-hop community, Different Fur is starting to become like a hub,” says studio manager Jorge Hernandez, who is also Different Fur’s go-to hip-hop engineer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it wasn’t always that way. When Hernandez started in 2011, Different Fur was serving a lot of garage rock. “It stems back to like the early ‘90s, but as far as in the Bay Area … there weren’t engineers that were solely focused on hip-hop, there weren’t studios that were built for hip-hop,” says Hernandez.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13816726\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-800x534.jpg\" alt=\"Text Me Records engineer Jorge Hernandez (center) in a session with artists Channel Tres and 1-O.A.K. at New Monkey Studios in Van Nuys.\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13816726\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-768x513.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/NEWMONKEY-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Text Me Records engineer Jorge Hernandez (center) in a session with artists Channel Tres and 1-O.A.K. at New Monkey Studios in Van Nuys. \u003ccite>(Demian Becerra)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“There’s so much built-in garage rock history,” says Brown, adding that studios in the region catered largely to full bands, making it hard for artists of other genres to break through. “We have a great live community here, but from a recording and production standpoint, there’s not a lot of support.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between Hernandez’s experience in local hip-hop circles and Brown’s knowledge of the genre, they began to seek out local rappers for recording. It was a marriage of personal interest and practicality — rock bands, by nature, are groups of musicians, whereas rappers and singers often operate alone. The fewer people there are in the studio, the more streamlined the recording process is for the staff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Bay Area indie rap … is in a really cool place right now,” says Brown. “Those artists seem more motivated and seem to understand how to work the industry a little better than the rock bands that have held reign here for so long.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though any job that starts with the word “staff” conjures up ideas of nine-to-five rigidity, Text Me can’t avoid the less formal features of startup life that define office culture in the area. The line between artists and songwriter is pretty permeable — Do, Rohs, and Renz are all performers-slash-songwriters for the label — and the whole songwriting process is less stringent than it might seem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13816727\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Seattle band SISTERS recording their album, 'Wait Don't Wait' -- Text Me Records' first release as a production company -- at Different Fur Studios. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13816727\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/12/SISTERS_DIFFERENTFUR2-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Seattle band SISTERS recording their album, ‘Wait Don’t Wait’ — Text Me Records’ first release as a production company — at Different Fur Studios. \u003ccite>(Erin Conger)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Take MVCK, for instance, who made his formal debut this year on Caleborate’s \u003cem>Real Person\u003c/em>. Hernandez caught wind of him after Text Me producer \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2017/10/17/behind-the-beats-drew-banga/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Drew Banga\u003c/a> brought him to a session at Different Fur and immediately asked him to record. “The way the relationship started was just random,” MVCK says in between verses. “Let’s make an EP and see what we have at that point; see what we can do with it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Text Me team takes company retreats to LA, where they hole up and writes songs for days on end. And there are free snacks — \u003ca href=\"https://www.chowhound.com/post/soylent-protein-powder-silicon-valleys-techies-1016043\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Soylent\u003c/a>, even — in the break room. “It’s essentially another — I don’t want to use the word startup — but it’s essentially another startup,” says Brown. “We’re starting something new.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just like how he didn’t want Different Fur to turn into condos, Brown doesn’t want the Bay Area’s recording industry to disappear, either. That’s what Text Me is for: A springboard for Bay Area musicians to rise to the next level instead of bemoaning their lack of local options and, eventually, moving to Los Angeles or New York.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The overall goal for everyone is sustainability,” Brown says. By setting artists up with a capable team, Text Me takes some of the risk out of being an independent musician in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The starving artist thing is a shitty cliché that people buy into,” says Brown. “And it’s a disservice to the artists and everyone involved in the making of music. 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