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Lucas and his associates wanted to make sure the fans didn’t lose interest between movies, and a holiday special could get kids excited about \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>toys for Christmas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lucas, who has made his contempt for the special clear, chose to go ahead with it and then tapped out of most of the process, according to some of the people who worked on it. And so, the special was … very, very strange. And yes, there are many clips.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/BtkpVWeWN-Q'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/BtkpVWeWN-Q'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>In the documentary, comedian Paul Scheer looks back in puzzlement on the moment Bea Arthur snuggled up to a giant rat. Writer Bruce Vilanch, who explains the rat by saying “we got a lot of remainder aliens,” also says that a cantina scene took forever to film with the cast in hot and unventilated costumes, “but that was only because the aliens kept fainting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13920462","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Members of the creative team remember the experience and wrestle with the punchline the special has become. Talking heads — “Weird Al” Yankovic, Gilbert Gottfried, Patton Oswalt, Kevin Smith, Seth Green, Taran Killam — try to explain its legend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Admittedly, some of this is nerd content for nerds. But even if you just want to see a lot of clips of Harrison Ford looking like he wants to dissolve into goo and seep into the floor, never to be seen again, it’s well worth tracking the documentary down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>‘A Disturbance In The Force’ is available to rent on the usual streaming services like Apple, Google Play, and YouTube.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=A+new+documentary+examines+the+%27Star+Wars+Holiday+Special%27+and+asks%3A+Why%3F&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13939003/star-wars-holiday-special-disturbance-in-the-force-review-documentary","authors":["byline_arts_13939003"],"programs":["arts_140"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_74","arts_75"],"tags":["arts_13672","arts_3797","arts_3241","arts_585"],"affiliates":["arts_137"],"featImg":"arts_13939006","label":"arts_140"},"arts_13933731":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13933731","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13933731","score":null,"sort":[1692821730000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"star-wars-ahsoka-has-a-jedi-with-two-light-sabers-but-not-much-else-yet","title":"'Star Wars: Ahsoka' Has a Jedi With Two Light Sabers But Not Much Else. Yet.","publishDate":1692821730,"format":"standard","headTitle":"‘Star Wars: Ahsoka’ Has a Jedi With Two Light Sabers But Not Much Else. Yet. | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":140,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>If all you know about the \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> franchise is its feature films, you might not even be aware of who Ahsoka Tano is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that alone shouldn’t stop you from sampling her debut as a leading character in Disney+’s new streaming series, \u003cem>Star Wars: Ahsoka\u003c/em>. All you really need to know to jump into the story is that Ahsoka is a powerful warrior — with TWO lightsabers — skilled enough with the Force to beat up battle droids and make off with a map that just might lead to a major villain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before long, it’s obvious she’s set off on an adventure that will explore lots of heady stuff: How to move forward from past pain to make a new future. The towering responsibility of being a good mentor and a worthy apprentice. How to find the bad guys who want to resurrect the evil Empire and subjugate the galaxy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the biggest challenge \u003cem>Ahsoka\u003c/em> faces is simpler: How to build a new \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>series that longtime fans will love without leaving newcomers in the dust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933734\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933734\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-800x450.jpe\" alt=\"A mixed race woman wearing a hooded cloak and white face paint stands, arms folded, looking off into the distance. A few feet away stands a petite Asian woman wearing a futuristic uniform and holding a helmet. She has short, cropped hair.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-800x450.jpe 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-1020x574.jpe 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-160x90.jpe 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-768x432.jpe 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-1536x864.jpe 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759.jpe 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka Tano and Natasha Liu Bordizzo as Sabine Wren. \u003ccite>(Disney+/ Lucasfilm Ltd. )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>Distracted by world building\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The series begins at a time when the Empire has fallen, the legendary Jedi Knights are dead or disbanded and Ahsoka herself is without the junior partner/mentee most Jedi have, called a padawan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rosario Dawson plays Ahsoka with a steely calm which befits her status as an experienced warrior and rebel hero — but can also sap the energy from scenes when she’s not fighting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, when she needs to reconnect with a talented, stubborn fighter named Sabine Wren, who had been on track to become her padawan, Ahsoka is so stoic that her face and voice are barely expressive — even as she admits regret over the way Wren’s training ended.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes even the right reasons have the wrong consequences,” Ahsoka admits at the end of one dry scene.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s a lot of backstory, and exchanges like that highlight one big problem for \u003cem>Star Wars: Ahsoka: \u003c/em>it is trying to cram the knowledge accumulated by decades of world-building books, films and TV shows into a couple hours of TV. Creator Dave Filoni — considered a protégé of \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>creator George Lucas and the backbone of the TV shows — can fall into Lucas’ bad habit of getting too distracted by the world he’s building to make the narrative consistently compelling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_1EXWNETiI\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ahsoka first surfaced in the animated movie \u003cem>Star Wars: The Clone Wars\u003c/em>, as an aspiring padawan bringing a message to legendary Jedi Obi-Wan Kenobi and his own padawan, Anakin Skywalker.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Later, she was also featured in the animated \u003cem>Clone Wars\u003c/em> TV series and \u003cem>Star Wars: Rebels\u003c/em>. Dawson brought her to the live-action world, playing her in an episode of \u003cem>The Mandalorian\u003c/em>, where she revealed the name of the character fans often call Baby Yoda was actually Grogu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even though \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> nerds have watched Ahsoka grow up onscreen, participating in pivotal moments to become a beloved character, for other fans who haven’t watched those series, she still needs a bit of an introduction. Watching Ahsoka eventually team with Wren and Mary Elizabeth Winstead’s green-skinned New Republic general, Hera Syndulla, brings hope this kinetic sisterhood will bring out more sides of the show’s starring character.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>A great showcase for a departed character actor\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>This may explain the pacing of the first two episodes, which alternate flashy, lightsaber-wielding fights scenes with a few too many sluggish, talky moments. Fortunately, that does mean some great scenes for character actor Ray Stevenson — who \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/23/movies/ray-stevenson-dead.html\">died earlier this year\u003c/a>, but excels as a skilled former Jedi-turned mercenary working for the villains. (the first episode ends with a simple dedication onscreen: “For our friend Ray.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933735\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933735\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-800x450.jpe\" alt=\"A white man with grey hair and beard stands in profile. Next to him is a petite white woman with white-blonde hair worn in a bob. She has sharp cheekbones.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-800x450.jpe 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-1020x574.jpe 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-160x90.jpe 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-768x432.jpe 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-1536x864.jpe 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846.jpe 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ray Stevenson, who died in May, plays Baylan Skoll with Ivanna Sakho as Shin Hati. \u003ccite>(Disney+/ Lucasfilm Ltd. )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>One open question: In a flashback, will we see Ahsoka face the Jedi master who trained her — Anakin Skywalker, who eventually becomes Darth Vader?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, with all those criticisms in mind, \u003cem>Ahsoka\u003c/em> is a series I’ll keep watching. Last year’s Disney+ series \u003cem>Star Wars: Andor\u003c/em> also started slowly before blossoming into one of the year’s best shows, so there’s still hope. But \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em> resonated with audiences by offering a persistently grounded narrative on the early days of the rebellion: no Jedi knights, mystical uses of The Force or lightsabers in sight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a time when audiences have thinning patience both for super-heroics and too much fan service, \u003cem>Ahsoka\u003c/em> will still need to raise its game to prove it’s more than wish fulfillment for longtime \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> fans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Star+Wars%3A+Ahsoka%27+has+a+Jedi+with+two+light+sabers+but+not+much+else.+Yet.&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"‘Andor’ started slowly before blossoming into one of the year's best shows, so maybe there's still hope for ‘Ashoka.’ ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705005113,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":841},"headData":{"title":"‘Star Wars: Ashoka’ Review: Maybe It'll Start Slow, Then Improve? | KQED","description":"‘Andor’ started slowly before blossoming into one of the year's best shows, so maybe there's still hope for ‘Ashoka.’ ","ogTitle":"'Star Wars: Ahsoka' Has a Jedi With Two Light Sabers But Not Much Else. 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All you really need to know to jump into the story is that Ahsoka is a powerful warrior — with TWO lightsabers — skilled enough with the Force to beat up battle droids and make off with a map that just might lead to a major villain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before long, it’s obvious she’s set off on an adventure that will explore lots of heady stuff: How to move forward from past pain to make a new future. The towering responsibility of being a good mentor and a worthy apprentice. How to find the bad guys who want to resurrect the evil Empire and subjugate the galaxy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the biggest challenge \u003cem>Ahsoka\u003c/em> faces is simpler: How to build a new \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>series that longtime fans will love without leaving newcomers in the dust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933734\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933734\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-800x450.jpe\" alt=\"A mixed race woman wearing a hooded cloak and white face paint stands, arms folded, looking off into the distance. A few feet away stands a petite Asian woman wearing a futuristic uniform and holding a helmet. She has short, cropped hair.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-800x450.jpe 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-1020x574.jpe 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-160x90.jpe 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-768x432.jpe 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759-1536x864.jpe 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-ahsoka-and-wren_wide-7a00c88449ebde4e5ca1ce01cd5bdbcf8054568b-scaled-e1692820513759.jpe 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka Tano and Natasha Liu Bordizzo as Sabine Wren. \u003ccite>(Disney+/ Lucasfilm Ltd. )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>Distracted by world building\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The series begins at a time when the Empire has fallen, the legendary Jedi Knights are dead or disbanded and Ahsoka herself is without the junior partner/mentee most Jedi have, called a padawan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rosario Dawson plays Ahsoka with a steely calm which befits her status as an experienced warrior and rebel hero — but can also sap the energy from scenes when she’s not fighting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, when she needs to reconnect with a talented, stubborn fighter named Sabine Wren, who had been on track to become her padawan, Ahsoka is so stoic that her face and voice are barely expressive — even as she admits regret over the way Wren’s training ended.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes even the right reasons have the wrong consequences,” Ahsoka admits at the end of one dry scene.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s a lot of backstory, and exchanges like that highlight one big problem for \u003cem>Star Wars: Ahsoka: \u003c/em>it is trying to cram the knowledge accumulated by decades of world-building books, films and TV shows into a couple hours of TV. Creator Dave Filoni — considered a protégé of \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>creator George Lucas and the backbone of the TV shows — can fall into Lucas’ bad habit of getting too distracted by the world he’s building to make the narrative consistently compelling.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/J_1EXWNETiI'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/J_1EXWNETiI'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Ahsoka first surfaced in the animated movie \u003cem>Star Wars: The Clone Wars\u003c/em>, as an aspiring padawan bringing a message to legendary Jedi Obi-Wan Kenobi and his own padawan, Anakin Skywalker.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Later, she was also featured in the animated \u003cem>Clone Wars\u003c/em> TV series and \u003cem>Star Wars: Rebels\u003c/em>. Dawson brought her to the live-action world, playing her in an episode of \u003cem>The Mandalorian\u003c/em>, where she revealed the name of the character fans often call Baby Yoda was actually Grogu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even though \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> nerds have watched Ahsoka grow up onscreen, participating in pivotal moments to become a beloved character, for other fans who haven’t watched those series, she still needs a bit of an introduction. Watching Ahsoka eventually team with Wren and Mary Elizabeth Winstead’s green-skinned New Republic general, Hera Syndulla, brings hope this kinetic sisterhood will bring out more sides of the show’s starring character.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>A great showcase for a departed character actor\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>This may explain the pacing of the first two episodes, which alternate flashy, lightsaber-wielding fights scenes with a few too many sluggish, talky moments. Fortunately, that does mean some great scenes for character actor Ray Stevenson — who \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/23/movies/ray-stevenson-dead.html\">died earlier this year\u003c/a>, but excels as a skilled former Jedi-turned mercenary working for the villains. (the first episode ends with a simple dedication onscreen: “For our friend Ray.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933735\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933735\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-800x450.jpe\" alt=\"A white man with grey hair and beard stands in profile. Next to him is a petite white woman with white-blonde hair worn in a bob. She has sharp cheekbones.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-800x450.jpe 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-1020x574.jpe 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-160x90.jpe 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-768x432.jpe 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846-1536x864.jpe 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ahsoka-stevenson-and-padawan_wide-a043b9014e96dd2e0ace36b2375333bd00324676-scaled-e1692820765846.jpe 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ray Stevenson, who died in May, plays Baylan Skoll with Ivanna Sakho as Shin Hati. \u003ccite>(Disney+/ Lucasfilm Ltd. )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>One open question: In a flashback, will we see Ahsoka face the Jedi master who trained her — Anakin Skywalker, who eventually becomes Darth Vader?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, with all those criticisms in mind, \u003cem>Ahsoka\u003c/em> is a series I’ll keep watching. Last year’s Disney+ series \u003cem>Star Wars: Andor\u003c/em> also started slowly before blossoming into one of the year’s best shows, so there’s still hope. But \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em> resonated with audiences by offering a persistently grounded narrative on the early days of the rebellion: no Jedi knights, mystical uses of The Force or lightsabers in sight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a time when audiences have thinning patience both for super-heroics and too much fan service, \u003cem>Ahsoka\u003c/em> will still need to raise its game to prove it’s more than wish fulfillment for longtime \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> fans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Star+Wars%3A+Ahsoka%27+has+a+Jedi+with+two+light+sabers+but+not+much+else.+Yet.&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13933731/star-wars-ahsoka-has-a-jedi-with-two-light-sabers-but-not-much-else-yet","authors":["byline_arts_13933731"],"programs":["arts_140"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_75","arts_990"],"tags":["arts_3114","arts_3797","arts_3241","arts_585"],"affiliates":["arts_137"],"featImg":"arts_13933732","label":"arts_140"},"arts_13932477":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13932477","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13932477","score":null,"sort":[1690912441000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"ai-movies-2001-matrix-colossus-star-trek-data-terminator-blade-runner","title":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain","publishDate":1690912441,"format":"standard","headTitle":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":137,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>This article was written by a human.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s worth mentioning because it’s no longer something you can just assume. Artificial intelligence that can mimic conversation, whether written or spoken, has been in the news a lot this year, delighting some members of the public while worrying educators, politicians, the World Health Organization, and even some of the people developing AI technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Misuse of AI is part of what actors and writers are striking about in Hollywood, and the threat of AI is something Hollywood was imagining long before it was real.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13928253']In 1968, for instance, the year before humans first set foot on the moon — and a time when astronauts still used pencils and slide rules to calculate re-entry trajectories because their space capsules had less computing power than a digital watch has today — Stanley Kubrick introduced movie audiences to a sentient HAL-9000 computer in \u003cem>2001: A Space Odyssey\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>HAL (for Heuristically Programmed Algorithmic Computer) introduced itself early in the film by saying, “No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>‘Open the pod bay door, HAL’\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>So why was HAL acting so strangely? He (it?) was responsible for maintaining all aspects of a months-long space flight, ferrying astronauts to the moons of Jupiter. Programmed to run the mission flawlessly, the computer’s behavior had become alarming, and two of the astronauts had decided to shut down some of its functions. Their plan was short-circuited when HAL, lip-reading a conversation they’d managed to keep him from hearing, cast one of them adrift while he was outside the ship repairing an antenna and refused to let the other back on board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqCCubrky00\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Open the pod bay door, HAL” became one of the most quoted film lines of the decade when the computer responded, “I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to articulate what a genuine shock this was for 1960s movie audiences. There’d been films with, say, robots causing havoc, but they were generally robots doing someone else’s bidding. Movie robots, at that point, were about brawn, not brain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And anyway, malevolent robot stories were precisely the sort of B-movie silliness Kubrick was trying to avoid. So his intelligent machine simply observed (with an unblinking red eye) and, when addressed directly, spoke with a calm, modulated voice, not unlike the one that would be adopted four decades later by Siri and Alexa.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Darwin Among the Machines\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Earlier literary notions of “artificial” intelligence — and there were not a lot of them at that point — hadn’t really caught the public’s imagination. Samuel Butler’s 1863 article \u003ca href=\"https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-ButFir-t1-g1-t1-g1-t4-body.html\">\u003cem>Darwin Among the Machines,\u003c/em>\u003c/a> is generally thought to be the origin of this species of writing, and it mostly just notes that while humankind invented machines to assist us — and remember, a really sophisticated machine in 1863 was the steam locomotive — we were increasingly assisting them: tending, fueling, repairing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13914834']Over tens of thousands of years, Butler wondered, might humans not evolve in much the same way Darwin’s study of natural selection had just established the rest of the plant and animal kingdoms do, to the point that we would become dependent on our devices?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even when he incorporated that idea a decade later into a satirical novel called \u003ca href=\"https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1906/1906-h/1906-h.htm\">\u003cem>Erewhon\u003c/em>,\u003c/a> expounding for several chapters on self-replicating machines, Butler barely touched on the notion that those machines would develop consciousness. And neither did the influential 19th-century science fiction writers who followed him. H.G. Wells and Jules Verne invented plenty of unorthodox devices as they sent characters to the center of the Earth, and into space and the recesses of time, without ever considering that those devices might want to do things on their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The term “artificial intelligence” wasn’t even coined (by American computer scientist John McCarthy) until about a dozen years before Kubrick made his \u003cem>Space Odyssey\u003c/em>. But HAL made an impression on the public where scientists had not. Within just a couple of years, movie computers didn’t just want spaceship domination; in \u003cem>Colossus: The Forbin Project\u003c/em> (1970), they wanted to take over the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyOEwiQhzMI\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Malignant machines gone viral\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>And then this notion of technology-run-wild, ran wild. A high school student played by Matthew Broderick nearly started World War III in \u003cem>WarGames\u003c/em> (1983) when he thought he was hacking a computer company but accidentally challenged the Pentagon’s defense network to a quick game of “global thermonuclear war.” The problem, it soon became clear, was that no one told the defense network they were just “playing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elsewhere, mechanical men stopped being all-brawn and got a new dispensation to think for themselves, something fiction had granted them before Hollywood got around to it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the 1940s\u003cstrong>,\u003c/strong> sci-fi novelist Isaac Asimov came up with\u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/topic/Three-Laws-of-Robotics\"> “Three Laws of Robotics”\u003c/a> that would theoretically keep “independent” machines in line. When Asimov’s story \u003cem>I, Robot,\u003c/em> was turned into a film a half-century or so later, those laws should have reassured Will Smith as he stared down thousands of bots. But he had good reason to be skeptical; he was fighting a robot rebellion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0f3JeDVeEo\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003cem>Terminator\u003c/em> movies effectively put all these themes on steroids — cyborgs in the service of a computerized, sentient, civil-defense network called Skynet, designed to function without any human input. A “Nuclear Fire” and three billion human deaths later, what was left of humanity was engaged in a war against the machines that has so far consumed six films, a TV series, a pair of web series, and innumerable games.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And nuclear blasts weren’t necessary to make machine intelligence alarming, a fact cyberpunk-noir established definitively in \u003cem>Blade Runner\u003c/em> with its “replicants,” and in a \u003cem>Matrix\u003c/em> series that reduced all of humanity to a mere power source for machines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13928457']Hollywood’s still fighting that vision. Who knows what “The Entity” wants in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/14/1186778012/mission-impossible-7-review-dead-reckoning-part-one-tom-cruise\">\u003cem>Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning\u003c/em>\u003c/a> (presumably we’ll find out next year in Part Two), but whatever it is, it won’t bode well for humanity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It seems not to have occurred to Tinseltown that AI might do the things it’s actually doing — make social media dangerous, or make undergrad writing courses unteachable, or screw up relationships by auto-completing incorrectly. None of those are terribly cinematic, so Hollywood concentrates on exploiting our fears — in the late 20th century, we worried about ceding control \u003cem>to\u003c/em> technology. In the 21st century, we worry about losing control \u003cem>of\u003c/em> technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Bring on the droids\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Have there also been friendlier film visions of AI? Sure. George Lucas came up with lovable droids R2-D2 and C-3PO for \u003cem>Star Wars, \u003c/em>and Pixar gave us \u003cem>Wall-E\u003c/em>, a bot who was pluckily determined to clean up an entire planet we’d despoiled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJTU48_yghs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Spike Jonze’s drama\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2014/01/06/260147073/the-unreal-her\"> \u003cem>Her\u003c/em> \u003c/a>imagined a sentient, Siri-like personal assistant as a digital girlfriend. \u003cem>Star Trek\u003c/em>‘s Data was not just a \u003cem>Next Generation\u003c/em> android version of Mr. Spock, but also a sort of emotion-challenged Pinocchio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And another Pinocchio — this one fashioned to stand the test of time — would have been Stanley Kubrick’s own answer to the question he’d posed with HAL in 1968.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13931833']Kubrick labored for decades to hone the script for \u003cem>A.I. Artificial Intelligence\u003c/em>, then just two years before he died, handed the project off to Steven Spielberg — the story of David, a robot child who has been programmed to love, and who ends up going beyond that programming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Until you were born,” William Hurt’s Professor Hobby told the bionic child he’d modeled on his own son, “robots didn’t dream, robots didn’t desire unless we told them what to want.” The miracle, he went on, was that though David was engineered rather than born, he shared with humans “the ability to chase down our dreams … something no machine has ever done, until you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may not have been enough to make David a real boy, but it put a gentle face on what is perhaps our greatest fear about AI — that we are mortal, and it is not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_19pRsZRiz4\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the film, David outlives all of humanity, never growing up, never changing. And perhaps because he was played by Haley Joel Osment, or perhaps because Spielberg was calling the shots, or perhaps because the music swelled … just so — it didn’t feel the least bit threatening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Open+the+pod+bay+door%2C+HAL%27+%E2%80%94+here%27s+how+AI+became+a+movie+villain&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Stories about the existential threats posed by artificially intelligent beings have been with us much longer than AI itself.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705005208,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":1570},"headData":{"title":"AI in the Movies, From HAL to ‘Her’ | KQED","description":"Stories about the existential threats posed by artificially intelligent beings have been with us much longer than AI itself.","ogTitle":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","socialTitle":"AI in the Movies, From HAL to ‘Her’ %%page%% %%sep%% KQED","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain","datePublished":"2023-08-01T17:54:01.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T20:33:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprImageCredit":" Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer","nprByline":"Bob Mondello","nprImageAgency":"Getty Images","nprStoryId":"1191017889","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=1191017889&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/31/1191017889/ai-artificial-intelligence-movies?ft=nprml&f=1191017889","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:44:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Mon, 31 Jul 2023 16:23:38 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:51:32 -0400","nprAudio":"https://play.podtrac.com/npr-191676894/edge1.pod.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc/2023/07/20230731_atc_open_the_pod_bay_door_hal_heres_how_ai_became_a_movie_villain.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1045&d=483&p=2&story=1191017889&awCollectionId=1&awEpisodeId=1191017889&ft=nprml&f=1191017889","nprAudioM3u":"http://api.npr.org/m3u/11191164621-5eadbe.m3u?orgId=1&topicId=1045&d=483&p=2&story=1191017889&ft=nprml&f=1191017889","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13932477/ai-movies-2001-matrix-colossus-star-trek-data-terminator-blade-runner","audioUrl":"https://play.podtrac.com/npr-191676894/edge1.pod.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc/2023/07/20230731_atc_open_the_pod_bay_door_hal_heres_how_ai_became_a_movie_villain.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1045&d=483&p=2&story=1191017889&awCollectionId=1&awEpisodeId=1191017889&ft=nprml&f=1191017889","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>This article was written by a human.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s worth mentioning because it’s no longer something you can just assume. Artificial intelligence that can mimic conversation, whether written or spoken, has been in the news a lot this year, delighting some members of the public while worrying educators, politicians, the World Health Organization, and even some of the people developing AI technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Misuse of AI is part of what actors and writers are striking about in Hollywood, and the threat of AI is something Hollywood was imagining long before it was real.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13928253","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>In 1968, for instance, the year before humans first set foot on the moon — and a time when astronauts still used pencils and slide rules to calculate re-entry trajectories because their space capsules had less computing power than a digital watch has today — Stanley Kubrick introduced movie audiences to a sentient HAL-9000 computer in \u003cem>2001: A Space Odyssey\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>HAL (for Heuristically Programmed Algorithmic Computer) introduced itself early in the film by saying, “No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. 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This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to articulate what a genuine shock this was for 1960s movie audiences. There’d been films with, say, robots causing havoc, but they were generally robots doing someone else’s bidding. Movie robots, at that point, were about brawn, not brain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And anyway, malevolent robot stories were precisely the sort of B-movie silliness Kubrick was trying to avoid. So his intelligent machine simply observed (with an unblinking red eye) and, when addressed directly, spoke with a calm, modulated voice, not unlike the one that would be adopted four decades later by Siri and Alexa.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Darwin Among the Machines\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Earlier literary notions of “artificial” intelligence — and there were not a lot of them at that point — hadn’t really caught the public’s imagination. Samuel Butler’s 1863 article \u003ca href=\"https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-ButFir-t1-g1-t1-g1-t4-body.html\">\u003cem>Darwin Among the Machines,\u003c/em>\u003c/a> is generally thought to be the origin of this species of writing, and it mostly just notes that while humankind invented machines to assist us — and remember, a really sophisticated machine in 1863 was the steam locomotive — we were increasingly assisting them: tending, fueling, repairing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13914834","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Over tens of thousands of years, Butler wondered, might humans not evolve in much the same way Darwin’s study of natural selection had just established the rest of the plant and animal kingdoms do, to the point that we would become dependent on our devices?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even when he incorporated that idea a decade later into a satirical novel called \u003ca href=\"https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1906/1906-h/1906-h.htm\">\u003cem>Erewhon\u003c/em>,\u003c/a> expounding for several chapters on self-replicating machines, Butler barely touched on the notion that those machines would develop consciousness. And neither did the influential 19th-century science fiction writers who followed him. H.G. Wells and Jules Verne invented plenty of unorthodox devices as they sent characters to the center of the Earth, and into space and the recesses of time, without ever considering that those devices might want to do things on their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The term “artificial intelligence” wasn’t even coined (by American computer scientist John McCarthy) until about a dozen years before Kubrick made his \u003cem>Space Odyssey\u003c/em>. But HAL made an impression on the public where scientists had not. Within just a couple of years, movie computers didn’t just want spaceship domination; in \u003cem>Colossus: The Forbin Project\u003c/em> (1970), they wanted to take over the world.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/kyOEwiQhzMI'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/kyOEwiQhzMI'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003ch3>Malignant machines gone viral\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>And then this notion of technology-run-wild, ran wild. A high school student played by Matthew Broderick nearly started World War III in \u003cem>WarGames\u003c/em> (1983) when he thought he was hacking a computer company but accidentally challenged the Pentagon’s defense network to a quick game of “global thermonuclear war.” The problem, it soon became clear, was that no one told the defense network they were just “playing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elsewhere, mechanical men stopped being all-brawn and got a new dispensation to think for themselves, something fiction had granted them before Hollywood got around to it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the 1940s\u003cstrong>,\u003c/strong> sci-fi novelist Isaac Asimov came up with\u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/topic/Three-Laws-of-Robotics\"> “Three Laws of Robotics”\u003c/a> that would theoretically keep “independent” machines in line. When Asimov’s story \u003cem>I, Robot,\u003c/em> was turned into a film a half-century or so later, those laws should have reassured Will Smith as he stared down thousands of bots. But he had good reason to be skeptical; he was fighting a robot rebellion.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/s0f3JeDVeEo'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/s0f3JeDVeEo'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>The \u003cem>Terminator\u003c/em> movies effectively put all these themes on steroids — cyborgs in the service of a computerized, sentient, civil-defense network called Skynet, designed to function without any human input. A “Nuclear Fire” and three billion human deaths later, what was left of humanity was engaged in a war against the machines that has so far consumed six films, a TV series, a pair of web series, and innumerable games.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And nuclear blasts weren’t necessary to make machine intelligence alarming, a fact cyberpunk-noir established definitively in \u003cem>Blade Runner\u003c/em> with its “replicants,” and in a \u003cem>Matrix\u003c/em> series that reduced all of humanity to a mere power source for machines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13928457","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Hollywood’s still fighting that vision. Who knows what “The Entity” wants in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/14/1186778012/mission-impossible-7-review-dead-reckoning-part-one-tom-cruise\">\u003cem>Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning\u003c/em>\u003c/a> (presumably we’ll find out next year in Part Two), but whatever it is, it won’t bode well for humanity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It seems not to have occurred to Tinseltown that AI might do the things it’s actually doing — make social media dangerous, or make undergrad writing courses unteachable, or screw up relationships by auto-completing incorrectly. None of those are terribly cinematic, so Hollywood concentrates on exploiting our fears — in the late 20th century, we worried about ceding control \u003cem>to\u003c/em> technology. In the 21st century, we worry about losing control \u003cem>of\u003c/em> technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Bring on the droids\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Have there also been friendlier film visions of AI? Sure. George Lucas came up with lovable droids R2-D2 and C-3PO for \u003cem>Star Wars, \u003c/em>and Pixar gave us \u003cem>Wall-E\u003c/em>, a bot who was pluckily determined to clean up an entire planet we’d despoiled.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/dJTU48_yghs'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/dJTU48_yghs'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Spike Jonze’s drama\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2014/01/06/260147073/the-unreal-her\"> \u003cem>Her\u003c/em> \u003c/a>imagined a sentient, Siri-like personal assistant as a digital girlfriend. \u003cem>Star Trek\u003c/em>‘s Data was not just a \u003cem>Next Generation\u003c/em> android version of Mr. Spock, but also a sort of emotion-challenged Pinocchio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And another Pinocchio — this one fashioned to stand the test of time — would have been Stanley Kubrick’s own answer to the question he’d posed with HAL in 1968.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13931833","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Kubrick labored for decades to hone the script for \u003cem>A.I. Artificial Intelligence\u003c/em>, then just two years before he died, handed the project off to Steven Spielberg — the story of David, a robot child who has been programmed to love, and who ends up going beyond that programming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Until you were born,” William Hurt’s Professor Hobby told the bionic child he’d modeled on his own son, “robots didn’t dream, robots didn’t desire unless we told them what to want.” The miracle, he went on, was that though David was engineered rather than born, he shared with humans “the ability to chase down our dreams … something no machine has ever done, until you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may not have been enough to make David a real boy, but it put a gentle face on what is perhaps our greatest fear about AI — that we are mortal, and it is not.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/_19pRsZRiz4'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/_19pRsZRiz4'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the film, David outlives all of humanity, never growing up, never changing. And perhaps because he was played by Haley Joel Osment, or perhaps because Spielberg was calling the shots, or perhaps because the music swelled … just so — it didn’t feel the least bit threatening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Open+the+pod+bay+door%2C+HAL%27+%E2%80%94+here%27s+how+AI+became+a+movie+villain&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13932477/ai-movies-2001-matrix-colossus-star-trek-data-terminator-blade-runner","authors":["byline_arts_13932477"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_73","arts_74","arts_75"],"tags":["arts_3634","arts_977","arts_8393","arts_16203","arts_3241","arts_16649","arts_1935","arts_5422"],"affiliates":["arts_137"],"featImg":"arts_13932478","label":"arts_137"},"arts_13930996":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13930996","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13930996","score":null,"sort":[1687975330000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"princess-leia-white-dress-at-auction-star-wars-a-new-hope-costume","title":"An Original Princess Leia Dress Found in an Attic Could Be Yours — for as Much as $2M","publishDate":1687975330,"format":"aside","headTitle":"An Original Princess Leia Dress Found in an Attic Could Be Yours — for as Much as $2M | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":137,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13930997\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13930997\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"The white Princess Leia dress worn by Carrie Fisher in ‘Star Wars’ is displayed between the General Maximus armor worn by Russell Crowe in ‘Gladiator,’ and the clown doll from ‘Poltergeist.’\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-1020x764.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-1536x1151.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A dress worn by actress Carrie Fisher in the 1977 film ‘Star Wars’ is one of 1,400 items up for sale at a live auction of film and TV memorabilia in Los Angeles this week. \u003ccite>(FREDERIC J. BROWN/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Those who’ve ever dreamt of dressing like an authentic \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> princess might find they have a little “New Hope”: A gown worn by Princess Leia (played by the late actress Carrie Fisher) in the first film of the blockbuster space saga is up for sale at this week’s Entertainment Memorabilia Live Auction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it comes with no small price tag. The gown is expected to fetch \u003ca href=\"https://propstoreauction.com/lot-details/index/catalog/347/lot/113092?url=%2Fauctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F347%3Fpage%3D1%26view%3Dgrid%26catm%3Dany%26order%3Dorder_num%26xclosed%3Dyes%26featured%3Dno%26key%3Dstar%2Bwars\">up to $2 million\u003c/a>, with bids closing Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The costume is believed to be the only surviving Princess Leia look from the film that launched a cultural phenomenon.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The slim-fitting silk gown features in the final scene of \u003cem>A New Hope \u003c/em>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The 1977 film, later subtitled \u003cem>Episode IV — a New Hope\u003c/em>, features the gown in \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yixG8pfncOs\">its final scene\u003c/a>, in which Princess Leia presents medals of honor to the newly minted heroes of the rebel alliance, Han Solo and Luke Skywalker.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yixG8pfncOs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The white gown serves as the focal point of the mise-en-scène. It’s even the last object visible as the final shot transitions to the director’s credit, in the movie equivalent of what’d be a final bow on stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The dress is a real relic. It’s an absolute piece of film history,” said Brandon Alinger, the chief operating officer of Propstore, the company behind Wednesday’s auction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> fans see it, they stop in their tracks, they gasp a bit at the sight of it, because they recognize the significance of it,” Alinger said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='pop_50308']The tone-setting dress helped its designer, John Mollo, win the Oscar for best costume design at \u003ca href=\"https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1978\">the 50th annual Academy Awards in March 1978. \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Referred to as Princess Leia’s ceremonial gown, the floor-sweeping frock is made of slim-fitting silk and adorned with a single silver-plated belt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s in the senator’s signature color (white), but, notably, features a scooped neckline and empire waist, which leave it less conservative than the hooded, roomy garments Leia wears for most of the franchise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(That excludes the gold bikini get-up, trademarked as “Slave Leia,” that’d come to define her later character transformation. The fact that \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/05/slave-leia-controversy-star-wars-objectification\">the arguably more iconic\u003c/a> look \u003ca href=\"https://money.cnn.com/2015/10/02/news/princess-leia-bikini-auctioned-for-96000/\">only sold for $96,000 in 2015\u003c/a> underscores the significance of the ceremonial gown.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13930998\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13930998\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A wax figure of a white woman seated on the ground wearing a gold bikini with purple skirt attachment. Behind her is a large monster that resembles a slug.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A wax recreation of the famous scene featuring Princess Leia in a gold bikini was displayed at London’s Madame Tussauds in May 2015. \u003ccite>(Stuart C. Wilson/ Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The original production had only \u003ca href=\"https://www.slashfilm.com/1231937/george-lucas-first-star-wars-draft-was-completely-different-from-a-new-hope/\">a humble budget of $11 million\u003c/a>, which may be why the costume team made just one single version of the ceremonial gown for filming and photos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those involved with the film thought that the piece had been destroyed alongside the original sets — until word got out that it was intact, collecting dust in a London attic.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The dress, long thought to be gone, was swiped from the set and stored in an attic\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>A crew member had swiped the dress from the burn pile, according to Alinger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was 10 or 12 years ago that we first became aware of the piece,” he added. “It was such a moment when we first learned of this and then, ultimately, when the Star Wars fandom learned that this piece still existed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13930999\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13930999\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-1020x764.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-1536x1151.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A poster of ‘Star Wars’ character Princess Leia and the refection of a storm trooper are seen at the ceremony for Carrie Fisher being honored posthumously with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on May 04, 2023. \u003ccite>(VALERIE MACON/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Professional textile conservators conducted a “meticulous, museum-caliber” restoration of the garment, according to its auction description. It took a total of eight months for teams to remove the dust that had accumulated on the gown and patch tiny holes that’d appeared in the fabric’s fragile areas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='pop_103268']The hem and seams were restitched and restored with the highest archival standards — which ultimately means, the auction catalog implies, you could let the seams out if Fisher’s dimensions don’t match you perfectly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s a decent chance the piece is destined for a display collection and not for personal wear, given the prices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bidding, which is expected to end on Wednesday evening, opened at $500,000 and had already reached $750,000 in a special preview window as of 11 a.m. ET.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If your tastes match the dress, but not the price, there’s always \u003ca href=\"https://www.shopdisney.com/princess-leia-dress-for-adults-star-wars-2840057900342M.html?CMP=KNC-DSSGoogle&efc=179006\">the official Disney costume\u003c/a>, available in adult sizes, for a relative bargain: $129.99.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=An+original+Princess+Leia+dress+found+in+an+attic+could+be+yours+%E2%80%94+for+as+much+as+%242M&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Film crews though the gown had been destroyed. Now it's up for sale alongside 1,400 other items at a Hollywood auction.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705005333,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":857},"headData":{"title":"Princess Leia’s White ‘Star Wars’ Gown is Up for Auction | KQED","description":"Film crews though the gown had been destroyed. 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Brown","nprByline":"Emily Olson","nprImageAgency":"AFP via Getty Images","nprStoryId":"1184781055","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=1184781055&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2023/06/28/1184781055/princess-leia-dress-star-wars-auction?ft=nprml&f=1184781055","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:29:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:29:26 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:29:26 -0400","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13930996/princess-leia-white-dress-at-auction-star-wars-a-new-hope-costume","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13930997\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13930997\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"The white Princess Leia dress worn by Carrie Fisher in ‘Star Wars’ is displayed between the General Maximus armor worn by Russell Crowe in ‘Gladiator,’ and the clown doll from ‘Poltergeist.’\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-1020x764.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462-1536x1151.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1257681638-1ab1977a31eb0d877cdee78173928100dbc65fcd-scaled-e1687974945462.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A dress worn by actress Carrie Fisher in the 1977 film ‘Star Wars’ is one of 1,400 items up for sale at a live auction of film and TV memorabilia in Los Angeles this week. \u003ccite>(FREDERIC J. BROWN/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Those who’ve ever dreamt of dressing like an authentic \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> princess might find they have a little “New Hope”: A gown worn by Princess Leia (played by the late actress Carrie Fisher) in the first film of the blockbuster space saga is up for sale at this week’s Entertainment Memorabilia Live Auction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it comes with no small price tag. The gown is expected to fetch \u003ca href=\"https://propstoreauction.com/lot-details/index/catalog/347/lot/113092?url=%2Fauctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F347%3Fpage%3D1%26view%3Dgrid%26catm%3Dany%26order%3Dorder_num%26xclosed%3Dyes%26featured%3Dno%26key%3Dstar%2Bwars\">up to $2 million\u003c/a>, with bids closing Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The costume is believed to be the only surviving Princess Leia look from the film that launched a cultural phenomenon.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The slim-fitting silk gown features in the final scene of \u003cem>A New Hope \u003c/em>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The 1977 film, later subtitled \u003cem>Episode IV — a New Hope\u003c/em>, features the gown in \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yixG8pfncOs\">its final scene\u003c/a>, in which Princess Leia presents medals of honor to the newly minted heroes of the rebel alliance, Han Solo and Luke Skywalker.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/yixG8pfncOs'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/yixG8pfncOs'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The white gown serves as the focal point of the mise-en-scène. It’s even the last object visible as the final shot transitions to the director’s credit, in the movie equivalent of what’d be a final bow on stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The dress is a real relic. It’s an absolute piece of film history,” said Brandon Alinger, the chief operating officer of Propstore, the company behind Wednesday’s auction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> fans see it, they stop in their tracks, they gasp a bit at the sight of it, because they recognize the significance of it,” Alinger said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"pop_50308","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The tone-setting dress helped its designer, John Mollo, win the Oscar for best costume design at \u003ca href=\"https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1978\">the 50th annual Academy Awards in March 1978. \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Referred to as Princess Leia’s ceremonial gown, the floor-sweeping frock is made of slim-fitting silk and adorned with a single silver-plated belt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s in the senator’s signature color (white), but, notably, features a scooped neckline and empire waist, which leave it less conservative than the hooded, roomy garments Leia wears for most of the franchise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(That excludes the gold bikini get-up, trademarked as “Slave Leia,” that’d come to define her later character transformation. The fact that \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/05/slave-leia-controversy-star-wars-objectification\">the arguably more iconic\u003c/a> look \u003ca href=\"https://money.cnn.com/2015/10/02/news/princess-leia-bikini-auctioned-for-96000/\">only sold for $96,000 in 2015\u003c/a> underscores the significance of the ceremonial gown.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13930998\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13930998\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A wax figure of a white woman seated on the ground wearing a gold bikini with purple skirt attachment. Behind her is a large monster that resembles a slug.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-473041644-f114f9b653cc82396a80722bca0746271b627c58-scaled-e1687974202250.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A wax recreation of the famous scene featuring Princess Leia in a gold bikini was displayed at London’s Madame Tussauds in May 2015. \u003ccite>(Stuart C. Wilson/ Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The original production had only \u003ca href=\"https://www.slashfilm.com/1231937/george-lucas-first-star-wars-draft-was-completely-different-from-a-new-hope/\">a humble budget of $11 million\u003c/a>, which may be why the costume team made just one single version of the ceremonial gown for filming and photos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those involved with the film thought that the piece had been destroyed alongside the original sets — until word got out that it was intact, collecting dust in a London attic.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The dress, long thought to be gone, was swiped from the set and stored in an attic\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>A crew member had swiped the dress from the burn pile, according to Alinger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was 10 or 12 years ago that we first became aware of the piece,” he added. “It was such a moment when we first learned of this and then, ultimately, when the Star Wars fandom learned that this piece still existed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13930999\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13930999\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-1020x764.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123-1536x1151.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/gettyimages-1252647808-c5332b718901ad4e9327414882779e89ab352ad9-scaled-e1687974451123.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A poster of ‘Star Wars’ character Princess Leia and the refection of a storm trooper are seen at the ceremony for Carrie Fisher being honored posthumously with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on May 04, 2023. \u003ccite>(VALERIE MACON/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Professional textile conservators conducted a “meticulous, museum-caliber” restoration of the garment, according to its auction description. It took a total of eight months for teams to remove the dust that had accumulated on the gown and patch tiny holes that’d appeared in the fabric’s fragile areas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"pop_103268","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The hem and seams were restitched and restored with the highest archival standards — which ultimately means, the auction catalog implies, you could let the seams out if Fisher’s dimensions don’t match you perfectly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s a decent chance the piece is destined for a display collection and not for personal wear, given the prices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bidding, which is expected to end on Wednesday evening, opened at $500,000 and had already reached $750,000 in a special preview window as of 11 a.m. ET.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If your tastes match the dress, but not the price, there’s always \u003ca href=\"https://www.shopdisney.com/princess-leia-dress-for-adults-star-wars-2840057900342M.html?CMP=KNC-DSSGoogle&efc=179006\">the official Disney costume\u003c/a>, available in adult sizes, for a relative bargain: $129.99.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=An+original+Princess+Leia+dress+found+in+an+attic+could+be+yours+%E2%80%94+for+as+much+as+%242M&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13930996/princess-leia-white-dress-at-auction-star-wars-a-new-hope-costume","authors":["byline_arts_13930996"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_74","arts_75"],"tags":["arts_10744","arts_977","arts_3241"],"affiliates":["arts_137"],"featImg":"arts_13931002","label":"arts_137"},"arts_13921929":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13921929","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13921929","score":null,"sort":[1669229517000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"andor-soared-it-was-about-the-force-not-the-force-of-the-star-wars-universe","title":"‘Andor’ Soared — It Was About the Force, not ‘The Force’, of the Star Wars Universe","publishDate":1669229517,"format":"standard","headTitle":"‘Andor’ Soared — It Was About the Force, not ‘The Force’, of the Star Wars Universe | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":137,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>This article contains spoilers about the season finale of \u003c/strong>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>Andor\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003cstrong>.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one corner of the \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> galaxy, you’ve got the eeeeevil Sith Lord, Emperor Sheev Palpatine, crackling with Force-lighting as he fries Jedi Master Mace Windu to a crisp, screaming “POWAH! UNLIMITED POWAAAAAH!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And over in another corner — the much grubbier and lower-profile one depicted on season one of Disney+’s \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>— you’ve got the bootlicking, low-level, fascist toady Syril Karn, standing at attention while he nervously answers his supervisor’s question about whether he’s modified his uniform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Perhaps slightly,” he says. “Pockets, piping. Some light tailoring.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several years separate those two events, and they exist on different orders of magnitude. The Emperor and all his cackling and crackling belong to the mythic, the macro \u003cem>Star War\u003c/em>s — the Joseph-Campbell-hero’s-quest of George Lucas’ original vision, which combined sprawling space-opera with the high adventure of Saturday movie serials — narrow escapes, thrilling stunts and hiss-worthy villains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over on \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em>, you’ve got villains like Syril Karn. They’re not exactly hiss-worthy, these pathetic, feckless strivers. Their constant angling for recognition and advancement, to say nothing of their obsession with the aesthetics of fascism (Piping! Light tailoring!), makes them more eyeroll-worthy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which is exactly why \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>works as freshly, singularly and powerfully as it does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOegEuCcfw\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Force with a lowercase “f”\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Karn and his colleagues are dedicated to the cause of fascist oppression (which they’re careful to refer to only as “order”) with a zeal that isn’t remotely macro. It isn’t mythic, religious or even passionate. Instead, they’re driven by institutional imperatives that scour their souls free of empathy, compassion and understanding, and reward them for ruthlessness, cruelty and — above all — efficiency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Who’s the showrunner here, Hannah Arendt? Because as we watched season one of \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>play out in a series of mini-arcs across its 12 episodes, we saw the inner workings of the Empire. It’s \u003cem>The Banality of Evil: The Series\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13920462']The \u003cem>Star War\u003c/em>s films showed us an Empire that was Evil because it destroyed planets and chased down our doughty heroes. Sure, there were always gray-uniformed Space Nazis milling around in the background, and the few who got speaking roles — Peter Cushing’s Grand Moff Tarkin, for example — were possessed of the cold cunning of a Saturday serial villain, to contrast with the implacable menace of Vader and the over-the-top mustache-twirling of the Emperor. They were all of a piece, larger than life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the fascistic functionaries of \u003cem>Andor —\u003c/em> Syril Karn, Dedra Mero, Major Partagaz, Lieutenant Supervisor Blevins, and others — are cogs. Willing, dedicated cogs who relish the machine they’re a part of, even if they each believe they could be of more use somewhere else in it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is The Force, and there is force — blunt, brutal and dehumanizing. In \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em>, again and again, we watched the latter variety exert its dispassionate influence, not on entire planets, but on individual lives. The public display of Andor’s father’s corpse. Andor’s arrest, and six-year-no-but-really-forever sentence for loitering. The exploitive, endless labor of Narkina 5. The appallingly chipper, matter-of-fact torture of Bix. The cumulative result was wrenching and personal and inevitably, eerily, relevant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As was the season’s portrait of resistance.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>walked so Luke could Skywalk\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> films argue that a galaxy can be saved from tyranny by a handful of heroes — and, yes, a succession of easily exploited design flaws in space stations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>showed the growing discontent and anger that gives rise to heroes. In many different ways, for their own individual reasons, the characters of \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>decide to rise up and fight, because totalitarianism is an unnatural state; it breeds resistance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13889379']“The more you tighten your grip,” Princess Leia told Tarkin in \u003cem>Star Wars: A New Hope,\u003c/em> “the more star systems are going to slip through your fingers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em>, we watch as that grip tightens around places like Ferrix and Aldhani and Narkina 5 and Coruscant. We watch people we care about get crushed. But we also watch others slip through. Yes, lives get lost, and compromises get made — that’s what Luthen’s monologue in episode 10 is all about, the harrowing loneliness of the freedom fighter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>shows us that the Empire’s downfall is and always was inevitable, Skywalker or no Skywalker. It’s baked in, the inescapable result of the system’s utter disregard for the humanity of the people it seeks to exploit and control.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Anakin was right about sand\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Let’s be real, though.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s another reason, besides the satisfying clarity of its focus on the individual, that \u003cem>Andor’\u003c/em>s first season set itself apart. Back in 1977, on his aunt and uncle’s Tatooine moisture farm, we all watched Luke Skywalker inform C-3PO, “If there’s a bright center of the universe, you’re on the planet it’s farthest from.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This turned out to be a lie. For several reasons — most especially the unhealthy infatuation with nostalgia/fan service that continues to dog the franchise — the \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>powers-that-be keep booking us passage back to that same, damn featureless sand-planet. Even the otherwise excellent \u003cem>The Mandalorian\u003c/em>, which mostly traffics in the same interplanetary ground-level action \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>does, couldn’t resist the siren song of Tatooine’s Krayt dragons and Tusken Raiders. (And despite a first season that managed to step out of the shadow of what had gone before, the gravitational pull of Jedi temples and lightsabers also proved too strong for \u003cem>The Mandalorian\u003c/em> to escape.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13903607']Looking forward to the second and final season of \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em>, we know a few things. Mon Mothma is gonna get exposed and go on the run (look for her daughter to betray her). Cassian has to meet K-2SO. Karn and Mero’s wildly dysfunctional, jackbooted \u003cem>folie-a-deux\u003c/em> will maybe see them \u003cem>a-deuxing\u003c/em> each other. (Personally, Karn’s infatuation with Mero seems more wrapped up with his demented obsession with authority than anything purely sexual; see above, in re: “Pockets. Piping. Some light tailoring.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And at least some of our favorite gray- or white-suited Imperial apparatchiks are gonna end up on the Death Star as it meets its fateful finish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That much we know. This much we can only hope:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That it all will take place as far away from %##*&! Tatooine as possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Andor%27+soared+%E2%80%94+it+was+about+the+force%2C+not+The+Force%2C+of+the+Star+Wars+universe+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"No lightsabers, no Jedi, no Tatooine: ‘Andor’ ditched familiar ‘Star Wars’ trappings to document the face of fascism.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705006131,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":1186},"headData":{"title":"‘Andor’ Soared — It Was About the Force, not ‘The Force’, of the Star Wars Universe | KQED","description":"No lightsabers, no Jedi, no Tatooine: ‘Andor’ ditched familiar ‘Star Wars’ trappings to document the face of fascism.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"‘Andor’ Soared — It Was About the Force, not ‘The Force’, of the Star Wars Universe","datePublished":"2022-11-23T18:51:57.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T20:48:51.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"Glen Weldon","nprImageAgency":"Lucasfilm Ltd.","nprStoryId":"1137826237","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=1137826237&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2022/11/23/1137826237/star-wars-andor-finale?ft=nprml&f=1137826237","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:00:00 -0500","nprStoryDate":"Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:00:16 -0500","nprLastModifiedDate":"Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:00:16 -0500","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","path":"/arts/13921929/andor-soared-it-was-about-the-force-not-the-force-of-the-star-wars-universe","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>This article contains spoilers about the season finale of \u003c/strong>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>Andor\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003cstrong>.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one corner of the \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> galaxy, you’ve got the eeeeevil Sith Lord, Emperor Sheev Palpatine, crackling with Force-lighting as he fries Jedi Master Mace Windu to a crisp, screaming “POWAH! UNLIMITED POWAAAAAH!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And over in another corner — the much grubbier and lower-profile one depicted on season one of Disney+’s \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>— you’ve got the bootlicking, low-level, fascist toady Syril Karn, standing at attention while he nervously answers his supervisor’s question about whether he’s modified his uniform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Perhaps slightly,” he says. “Pockets, piping. Some light tailoring.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several years separate those two events, and they exist on different orders of magnitude. The Emperor and all his cackling and crackling belong to the mythic, the macro \u003cem>Star War\u003c/em>s — the Joseph-Campbell-hero’s-quest of George Lucas’ original vision, which combined sprawling space-opera with the high adventure of Saturday movie serials — narrow escapes, thrilling stunts and hiss-worthy villains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over on \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em>, you’ve got villains like Syril Karn. They’re not exactly hiss-worthy, these pathetic, feckless strivers. Their constant angling for recognition and advancement, to say nothing of their obsession with the aesthetics of fascism (Piping! Light tailoring!), makes them more eyeroll-worthy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which is exactly why \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>works as freshly, singularly and powerfully as it does.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/cKOegEuCcfw'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/cKOegEuCcfw'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003ch3>Force with a lowercase “f”\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Karn and his colleagues are dedicated to the cause of fascist oppression (which they’re careful to refer to only as “order”) with a zeal that isn’t remotely macro. It isn’t mythic, religious or even passionate. Instead, they’re driven by institutional imperatives that scour their souls free of empathy, compassion and understanding, and reward them for ruthlessness, cruelty and — above all — efficiency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Who’s the showrunner here, Hannah Arendt? Because as we watched season one of \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>play out in a series of mini-arcs across its 12 episodes, we saw the inner workings of the Empire. It’s \u003cem>The Banality of Evil: The Series\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13920462","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The \u003cem>Star War\u003c/em>s films showed us an Empire that was Evil because it destroyed planets and chased down our doughty heroes. Sure, there were always gray-uniformed Space Nazis milling around in the background, and the few who got speaking roles — Peter Cushing’s Grand Moff Tarkin, for example — were possessed of the cold cunning of a Saturday serial villain, to contrast with the implacable menace of Vader and the over-the-top mustache-twirling of the Emperor. They were all of a piece, larger than life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the fascistic functionaries of \u003cem>Andor —\u003c/em> Syril Karn, Dedra Mero, Major Partagaz, Lieutenant Supervisor Blevins, and others — are cogs. Willing, dedicated cogs who relish the machine they’re a part of, even if they each believe they could be of more use somewhere else in it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is The Force, and there is force — blunt, brutal and dehumanizing. In \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em>, again and again, we watched the latter variety exert its dispassionate influence, not on entire planets, but on individual lives. The public display of Andor’s father’s corpse. Andor’s arrest, and six-year-no-but-really-forever sentence for loitering. The exploitive, endless labor of Narkina 5. The appallingly chipper, matter-of-fact torture of Bix. The cumulative result was wrenching and personal and inevitably, eerily, relevant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As was the season’s portrait of resistance.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>walked so Luke could Skywalk\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> films argue that a galaxy can be saved from tyranny by a handful of heroes — and, yes, a succession of easily exploited design flaws in space stations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>showed the growing discontent and anger that gives rise to heroes. In many different ways, for their own individual reasons, the characters of \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>decide to rise up and fight, because totalitarianism is an unnatural state; it breeds resistance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13889379","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“The more you tighten your grip,” Princess Leia told Tarkin in \u003cem>Star Wars: A New Hope,\u003c/em> “the more star systems are going to slip through your fingers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em>, we watch as that grip tightens around places like Ferrix and Aldhani and Narkina 5 and Coruscant. We watch people we care about get crushed. But we also watch others slip through. Yes, lives get lost, and compromises get made — that’s what Luthen’s monologue in episode 10 is all about, the harrowing loneliness of the freedom fighter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>shows us that the Empire’s downfall is and always was inevitable, Skywalker or no Skywalker. It’s baked in, the inescapable result of the system’s utter disregard for the humanity of the people it seeks to exploit and control.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Anakin was right about sand\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Let’s be real, though.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s another reason, besides the satisfying clarity of its focus on the individual, that \u003cem>Andor’\u003c/em>s first season set itself apart. Back in 1977, on his aunt and uncle’s Tatooine moisture farm, we all watched Luke Skywalker inform C-3PO, “If there’s a bright center of the universe, you’re on the planet it’s farthest from.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This turned out to be a lie. For several reasons — most especially the unhealthy infatuation with nostalgia/fan service that continues to dog the franchise — the \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>powers-that-be keep booking us passage back to that same, damn featureless sand-planet. Even the otherwise excellent \u003cem>The Mandalorian\u003c/em>, which mostly traffics in the same interplanetary ground-level action \u003cem>Andor \u003c/em>does, couldn’t resist the siren song of Tatooine’s Krayt dragons and Tusken Raiders. (And despite a first season that managed to step out of the shadow of what had gone before, the gravitational pull of Jedi temples and lightsabers also proved too strong for \u003cem>The Mandalorian\u003c/em> to escape.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13903607","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Looking forward to the second and final season of \u003cem>Andor\u003c/em>, we know a few things. Mon Mothma is gonna get exposed and go on the run (look for her daughter to betray her). Cassian has to meet K-2SO. Karn and Mero’s wildly dysfunctional, jackbooted \u003cem>folie-a-deux\u003c/em> will maybe see them \u003cem>a-deuxing\u003c/em> each other. (Personally, Karn’s infatuation with Mero seems more wrapped up with his demented obsession with authority than anything purely sexual; see above, in re: “Pockets. Piping. Some light tailoring.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And at least some of our favorite gray- or white-suited Imperial apparatchiks are gonna end up on the Death Star as it meets its fateful finish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That much we know. This much we can only hope:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That it all will take place as far away from %##*&! Tatooine as possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Andor%27+soared+%E2%80%94+it+was+about+the+force%2C+not+The+Force%2C+of+the+Star+Wars+universe+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13921929/andor-soared-it-was-about-the-force-not-the-force-of-the-star-wars-universe","authors":["byline_arts_13921929"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_75","arts_990"],"tags":["arts_3114","arts_3797","arts_3241"],"affiliates":["arts_137"],"featImg":"arts_13921930","label":"arts_137"},"arts_13920462":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13920462","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13920462","score":null,"sort":[1666030650000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"2-bay-area-bakers-create-a-life-size-han-solo-out-of-bread","title":"2 Bay Area Bakers Create a Life-Size Han Solo Out of Bread","publishDate":1666030650,"format":"standard","headTitle":"2 Bay Area Bakers Create a Life-Size Han Solo Out of Bread | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Han Solo may be a hunk, but “Pan Solo” is a hunk of bread.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s what a Bay Area bakery has dubbed its 6-foot bread sculpture of the \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> character, as he appeared after being frozen in carbonite in \u003cem>The Empire Strikes Back\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='pop_83529']Hannalee Pervan and her mother, Catherine Pervan, co-owners of One House Bakery in Benicia, Calif., spent weeks molding, baking and assembling the life-sized sculpture using wood and two types of dough, including a type of yeastless dough with a higher sugar content that will last longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two worked at night, after the day’s business was done. The lovingly crafted details show Han Solo’s anguished face and his hands straining to reach out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hannalee said she might have gotten a bit obsessed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Mom made me leave it because I was obsessing over the lips,” Hannalee told the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/15/us/han-solo-bakery-sculpture.html?unlocked_article_code=R-Cn0eT33hXSF6Y3DIH2QVZp8Xgpo2nP2oVyFtYuq04jaPre1HHH-OqLzOdv_PuLpT5rF8M58jP5AhB38aBbDCvPCpfkAEDipm6r8ubdQrzbCEf-SkI8knBUHEBvgB3_hGZKwvaXruey8lR_jvdTxg5J_c6xWdPzDtzkmw9DvlasGTWv9CRATWD7T7NhxXQw_y_qCW7Q2JhOMIvQeeOSUaw9LxOAC9cNOZi30QT6glDt-jfnIPTKvLci0dNNH6ZOEmHYNOasVMlY03eftbHHT1yiCxLX45Z_zv8xfsDGg1zHqQbboyxkJupncF8BvBeIT5Z7grIPgNilZbMBeQ&smid=share-url\">\u003cem>New York Times\u003c/em>\u003c/a>. “She was like, ‘You need to walk away.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13920464\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13920464\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2022/10/ap22289699524752_wide-c27b0fb84aeed52fcfb3ce9bdafd41a2afb3dd90-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"A detailed sideview of a sculpture of 'Star Wars' character Han Solo, made out of bread.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Catherine Pervan, co-owner of One House Bakery, told her daughter Hannalee she was obsessing over Pan Solo’s lips. \u003ccite>(Jose Carlos Fajardo/Bay Area News Group via AP)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Creating Pan Solo was particularly meaningful, Hannalee told the paper, because she contracted COVID-19 in January 2021 and lost much of her senses of smell and taste.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So just to find joy in a different part of food is really important,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sculpture is now on display outside of the bakery, located about a half-hour’s drive north of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13889379']Pan Solo is the bakery’s entry in the annual Downtown Benicia Main Street Scarecrow Contest. The public will get to vote on their favorites from among more than two dozen creations entered by local businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Pervans, who are big science-fiction and fantasy fans, entered another \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em>-themed creation in 2020 featuring the Mandalorian and Baby Yoda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unfortunately, Pan Solo won’t last forever. The dough eventually will be composted, not eaten.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So as a wise Jedi might warn: Don’t use the forks, Luke.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=2+California+bakers+create+a+life-size+Han+Solo+out+of+bread&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A mother-daughter team from One House Bakery constructed 'Pan Solo' for the Downtown Benicia Main Street Scarecrow Contest.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705006263,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":374},"headData":{"title":"2 Bay Area Bakers Create a Life-Size Han Solo Out of Bread | KQED","description":"A mother-daughter team from One House Bakery constructed 'Pan Solo' for the Downtown Benicia Main Street Scarecrow Contest.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"2 Bay Area Bakers Create a Life-Size Han Solo Out of Bread","datePublished":"2022-10-17T18:17:30.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T20:51:03.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"source":"Food","sourceUrl":"/food/","sticky":false,"nprImageCredit":"Jose Carlos Fajardo","nprByline":"The Associated Press","nprImageAgency":"AP","nprStoryId":"1129434696","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=1129434696&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1129434696/2-california-bakers-create-a-life-sized-han-solo-out-of-bread?ft=nprml&f=1129434696","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Mon, 17 Oct 2022 11:58:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:39:28 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Mon, 17 Oct 2022 11:58:33 -0400","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","path":"/arts/13920462/2-bay-area-bakers-create-a-life-size-han-solo-out-of-bread","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Han Solo may be a hunk, but “Pan Solo” is a hunk of bread.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s what a Bay Area bakery has dubbed its 6-foot bread sculpture of the \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> character, as he appeared after being frozen in carbonite in \u003cem>The Empire Strikes Back\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"pop_83529","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Hannalee Pervan and her mother, Catherine Pervan, co-owners of One House Bakery in Benicia, Calif., spent weeks molding, baking and assembling the life-sized sculpture using wood and two types of dough, including a type of yeastless dough with a higher sugar content that will last longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two worked at night, after the day’s business was done. The lovingly crafted details show Han Solo’s anguished face and his hands straining to reach out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hannalee said she might have gotten a bit obsessed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Mom made me leave it because I was obsessing over the lips,” Hannalee told the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/15/us/han-solo-bakery-sculpture.html?unlocked_article_code=R-Cn0eT33hXSF6Y3DIH2QVZp8Xgpo2nP2oVyFtYuq04jaPre1HHH-OqLzOdv_PuLpT5rF8M58jP5AhB38aBbDCvPCpfkAEDipm6r8ubdQrzbCEf-SkI8knBUHEBvgB3_hGZKwvaXruey8lR_jvdTxg5J_c6xWdPzDtzkmw9DvlasGTWv9CRATWD7T7NhxXQw_y_qCW7Q2JhOMIvQeeOSUaw9LxOAC9cNOZi30QT6glDt-jfnIPTKvLci0dNNH6ZOEmHYNOasVMlY03eftbHHT1yiCxLX45Z_zv8xfsDGg1zHqQbboyxkJupncF8BvBeIT5Z7grIPgNilZbMBeQ&smid=share-url\">\u003cem>New York Times\u003c/em>\u003c/a>. “She was like, ‘You need to walk away.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13920464\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13920464\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2022/10/ap22289699524752_wide-c27b0fb84aeed52fcfb3ce9bdafd41a2afb3dd90-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"A detailed sideview of a sculpture of 'Star Wars' character Han Solo, made out of bread.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Catherine Pervan, co-owner of One House Bakery, told her daughter Hannalee she was obsessing over Pan Solo’s lips. \u003ccite>(Jose Carlos Fajardo/Bay Area News Group via AP)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Creating Pan Solo was particularly meaningful, Hannalee told the paper, because she contracted COVID-19 in January 2021 and lost much of her senses of smell and taste.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So just to find joy in a different part of food is really important,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sculpture is now on display outside of the bakery, located about a half-hour’s drive north of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13889379","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Pan Solo is the bakery’s entry in the annual Downtown Benicia Main Street Scarecrow Contest. The public will get to vote on their favorites from among more than two dozen creations entered by local businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Pervans, who are big science-fiction and fantasy fans, entered another \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em>-themed creation in 2020 featuring the Mandalorian and Baby Yoda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unfortunately, Pan Solo won’t last forever. The dough eventually will be composted, not eaten.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So as a wise Jedi might warn: Don’t use the forks, Luke.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=2+California+bakers+create+a+life-size+Han+Solo+out+of+bread&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13920462/2-bay-area-bakers-create-a-life-size-han-solo-out-of-bread","authors":["byline_arts_13920462"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_12276","arts_75"],"tags":["arts_18849","arts_3241"],"affiliates":["arts_137"],"featImg":"arts_13920463","label":"source_arts_13920462"},"arts_13914736":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13914736","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13914736","score":null,"sort":[1655147611000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"yes-im-a-disney-adult-let-me-explain","title":"Yes, I'm a Disney Adult. Let Me Explain","publishDate":1655147611,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Yes, I’m a Disney Adult. Let Me Explain | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":137,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>Hi. My name is Aisha, and I’m a Disney Adult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But I’m not like those other Disney Adults out there—I’m a \u003cem>cool \u003c/em>Disney Adult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’ve certainly never\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/theashrb/status/1533466143389892609/photo/1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> thrown a wedding\u003c/a> where I made my guests figure out their own way of getting fed during the reception, because my partner and I chose to spend the thousands of dollars our parents budgeted for catering on guest appearances by Mickey and Minnie Mouse. Could never be me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(My partner \u003cem>did \u003c/em>propose to me while we were in Disney World celebrating my 30th birthday. That’s cool, though.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I have absolutely zero interest in living in a residential community\u003ca href=\"https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/real-estate/disney-residential-storyliving-community-cotino-coachella-valley-1235095311/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> owned by Disney\u003c/a> and staffed with Disney cast members—what fresh \u003cem>Twilight Zone\u003c/em> hell might that turn out to be?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Still, I \u003cem>do \u003c/em>have Disney playlists in my regular rotation for working background music, and yes, I know every lyric to “Thomas O’Malley Cat” from \u003cem>The Aristocats\u003c/em>. I’m still cool, though.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I would never refer to my partner as my “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/CelyiLZLHa2/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Disney prince\u003c/a>“—yech!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(But we \u003cem>do\u003c/em> watch Disney movies old and new together, and have seen \u003cem>Aladdin\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Frozen\u003c/em>, and \u003cem>The Lion King \u003c/em>on Broadway. In case you’re wondering, we have no children, and emphatically don’t want them. We’re still cool, though.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='pop_112074']Fandom is a weird thing. It’s a state of being where at least a bit of fantasy inherently comes into play regardless of the medium, and the internet, with its memes and Tumblr pages and interest groups, has only made this more obvious while giving us myriad new ways to demonstrate being a fan. It’s also interesting to witness the ever-morphing hierarchies of fandom within the cultural zeitgeist, and what’s considered cool to obsess over and what’s not. Comic book nerds, for example, once a niche population and the butt of jokes, have more or less swallowed mainstream popular culture as a whole, thanks to the Marvelization of … well, everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This past week emphasized how not all fandoms are treated equally, thanks to a viral “Am I the Asshole” Reddit post that may or may not be a true story. In case you’re unfamiliar with “AITA,” as it’s called, it’s the judgy gift that keeps on giving, a popular Reddit subhead where users post their personal conundrums and then ask the rest of the world to decide whether they were in the wrong or right. \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/theashrb/status/1533466143389892609\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">This particularly chaotic post\u003c/a> about the couple who chose Mickey and Minnie over feeding their guests sparked the snarkiest wave of derision on the fandom known as “Disney Adults,” understandably. Tweets like “We need to study the\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/EJpineapplSLICE/status/1533910536403959809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> minds of Disney adults\u003c/a> like we do serial killers” and “I’ve said it once, I’ll say it now, and I’ll say it 100 more times.\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/BaileyCarlin/status/1533809376489881600\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> Disney adults are the absolute worst people\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Way harsh, Tai.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Making matters worse was the well-intentioned religious studies professor who swooped in to defend my ilk with\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/jeichlerlevine/status/1533909820453142530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> a thread\u003c/a> that basically boiled down to “Don’t pathologize these people; to them this is like religion, except instead of worshipping hypothetical gods, they worship a corporate entity!” Twitter went into overdrive, swarming upon and devouring this professor’s infantilizing thread as if they were the hyenas descending upon Scar. The responses were golden.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I don’t actually care if people make fun of Disney Adults. A lot of the jokes are actually pretty funny. It’s a weird, quirky thing to re-watch \u003cem>Lady and the Tramp \u003c/em>every so often once you surpass the age of, say, 12! I own that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13883519']On the other hand, I find the\u003ca href=\"https://www.insider.com/woman-who-cried-while-meeting-goofy-interview-2022-5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> intense vitriol\u003c/a>—not the jokes, but the suggestions this is on par with religion or a cult—to be more than a bit confounding. From where I stand, Disney Adults don’t appear to be the kind of fandom that cares much about what others think about us, or the things we like. I don’t see them enacting massive doxing campaigns against anyone who dares say a bad word about \u003cem>Encanto\u003c/em>, like fans of certain pop stars or superhero movies. Maybe it’s because I’m a cool Disney Adult and don’t run in those circles? I don’t know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Part of it seems to stem from an understandable disdain for Disney as a corporate monopoly, and all the negatives that have come from that. (For one: \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/03/08/1085130633/disney-response-florida-bill-dont-say-gay\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The company’s position as financially beholden to political groups that are actively trying to strip basic human rights\u003c/a>.) I agree with those critics; no one brand should have all this power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bigger component, though, is probably Disney’s “wholesome” and child-friendly image, which has been meticulously ingrained in the public imagination since the brand’s inception. Despite owning everything under the sun, from \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>to Marvel to the Muppets to Pixar, the Disney brand remains lodged in people’s minds as nothing more than that iconographic image of Tinker Bell tapping Cinderella’s castle with her wand. To say something has been “Disneyfied” is dismissive shorthand for watered-down, chaste, safe, conservative. The company does plenty of things to project this fluffy image (ahem, that very hyped “exclusively gay” moment that turned out to just be\u003ca href=\"https://www.vulture.com/2017/03/heres-the-exclusively-gay-moment-in-beauty-and-the-beast.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> a couple seconds\u003c/a> of two guys dancing together), so I get it. I can see how it seems like the equivalent of continuing to enjoy \u003cem>Blue’s Clues \u003c/em>even after you’ve reached 5th grade—to like a product ostensibly targeted at kids is to somehow exist in a state of arrested development and be disconnected from reality, so the thinking goes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To which I say: All fiction requires the audience to disconnect from reality! That’s the point! Also, have you seen \u003cem>Pinocchio \u003c/em>recently? That entire Pleasure Island sequence is like a PG-rated precursor to \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_the_Cat_(film)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Fritz the Cat\u003c/em>\u003c/a>!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the term “Disney Adult” suggests it’s something of an oxymoron, an incongruous identity—we don’t go around calling people Muppet Grown-Ups or Mature \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>fans, even as these fantastical franchises also appeal to people of all ages. \u003cem>Sigh.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='pop_97638']What it all boils down to is this: The Disney products we associate with princesses and talking animal sidekicks and musicals will never be “cool,” even as they’ve become the blueprint for cultural commodification in nearly every corner of western culture for nearly a century. And that’s fine! On the social ladder of pop culture fandom, Disney Adults are the theater kids. (Yes, in case you were wondering, I was a theater kid, too. A cool one, though.) We’re passionate—some a little too much so—and have a tendency to burst out into song at unexpected moments. We like to rank villains and princes, and drop way too much money for the chance to ride Space Mountain. We are an acquired taste. Just like every other cult–er, fandom.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This essay first appeared in NPR’s Pop Culture Happy Hour newsletter. \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/newsletter/pop-culture\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Sign up for the newsletter\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> so you don’t miss the next one, plus get weekly recommendations on what’s making us happy.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more,\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Yes%2C+I%27m+a+Disney+Adult.+Let+me+explain&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Backlash against Disney Adults reveals a lot about the ever-morphing hierarchies of fandom within the cultural zeitgeist.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705006738,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":1297},"headData":{"title":"Yes, I'm a Disney Adult. 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My name is Aisha, and I’m a Disney Adult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But I’m not like those other Disney Adults out there—I’m a \u003cem>cool \u003c/em>Disney Adult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’ve certainly never\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/theashrb/status/1533466143389892609/photo/1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> thrown a wedding\u003c/a> where I made my guests figure out their own way of getting fed during the reception, because my partner and I chose to spend the thousands of dollars our parents budgeted for catering on guest appearances by Mickey and Minnie Mouse. Could never be me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(My partner \u003cem>did \u003c/em>propose to me while we were in Disney World celebrating my 30th birthday. That’s cool, though.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I have absolutely zero interest in living in a residential community\u003ca href=\"https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/real-estate/disney-residential-storyliving-community-cotino-coachella-valley-1235095311/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> owned by Disney\u003c/a> and staffed with Disney cast members—what fresh \u003cem>Twilight Zone\u003c/em> hell might that turn out to be?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Still, I \u003cem>do \u003c/em>have Disney playlists in my regular rotation for working background music, and yes, I know every lyric to “Thomas O’Malley Cat” from \u003cem>The Aristocats\u003c/em>. I’m still cool, though.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I would never refer to my partner as my “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/CelyiLZLHa2/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Disney prince\u003c/a>“—yech!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(But we \u003cem>do\u003c/em> watch Disney movies old and new together, and have seen \u003cem>Aladdin\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Frozen\u003c/em>, and \u003cem>The Lion King \u003c/em>on Broadway. In case you’re wondering, we have no children, and emphatically don’t want them. We’re still cool, though.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"pop_112074","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Fandom is a weird thing. It’s a state of being where at least a bit of fantasy inherently comes into play regardless of the medium, and the internet, with its memes and Tumblr pages and interest groups, has only made this more obvious while giving us myriad new ways to demonstrate being a fan. It’s also interesting to witness the ever-morphing hierarchies of fandom within the cultural zeitgeist, and what’s considered cool to obsess over and what’s not. Comic book nerds, for example, once a niche population and the butt of jokes, have more or less swallowed mainstream popular culture as a whole, thanks to the Marvelization of … well, everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This past week emphasized how not all fandoms are treated equally, thanks to a viral “Am I the Asshole” Reddit post that may or may not be a true story. In case you’re unfamiliar with “AITA,” as it’s called, it’s the judgy gift that keeps on giving, a popular Reddit subhead where users post their personal conundrums and then ask the rest of the world to decide whether they were in the wrong or right. \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/theashrb/status/1533466143389892609\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">This particularly chaotic post\u003c/a> about the couple who chose Mickey and Minnie over feeding their guests sparked the snarkiest wave of derision on the fandom known as “Disney Adults,” understandably. Tweets like “We need to study the\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/EJpineapplSLICE/status/1533910536403959809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> minds of Disney adults\u003c/a> like we do serial killers” and “I’ve said it once, I’ll say it now, and I’ll say it 100 more times.\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/BaileyCarlin/status/1533809376489881600\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> Disney adults are the absolute worst people\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Way harsh, Tai.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Making matters worse was the well-intentioned religious studies professor who swooped in to defend my ilk with\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/jeichlerlevine/status/1533909820453142530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> a thread\u003c/a> that basically boiled down to “Don’t pathologize these people; to them this is like religion, except instead of worshipping hypothetical gods, they worship a corporate entity!” Twitter went into overdrive, swarming upon and devouring this professor’s infantilizing thread as if they were the hyenas descending upon Scar. The responses were golden.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I don’t actually care if people make fun of Disney Adults. A lot of the jokes are actually pretty funny. It’s a weird, quirky thing to re-watch \u003cem>Lady and the Tramp \u003c/em>every so often once you surpass the age of, say, 12! I own that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13883519","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>On the other hand, I find the\u003ca href=\"https://www.insider.com/woman-who-cried-while-meeting-goofy-interview-2022-5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> intense vitriol\u003c/a>—not the jokes, but the suggestions this is on par with religion or a cult—to be more than a bit confounding. From where I stand, Disney Adults don’t appear to be the kind of fandom that cares much about what others think about us, or the things we like. I don’t see them enacting massive doxing campaigns against anyone who dares say a bad word about \u003cem>Encanto\u003c/em>, like fans of certain pop stars or superhero movies. Maybe it’s because I’m a cool Disney Adult and don’t run in those circles? I don’t know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Part of it seems to stem from an understandable disdain for Disney as a corporate monopoly, and all the negatives that have come from that. (For one: \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/03/08/1085130633/disney-response-florida-bill-dont-say-gay\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The company’s position as financially beholden to political groups that are actively trying to strip basic human rights\u003c/a>.) I agree with those critics; no one brand should have all this power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bigger component, though, is probably Disney’s “wholesome” and child-friendly image, which has been meticulously ingrained in the public imagination since the brand’s inception. Despite owning everything under the sun, from \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>to Marvel to the Muppets to Pixar, the Disney brand remains lodged in people’s minds as nothing more than that iconographic image of Tinker Bell tapping Cinderella’s castle with her wand. To say something has been “Disneyfied” is dismissive shorthand for watered-down, chaste, safe, conservative. The company does plenty of things to project this fluffy image (ahem, that very hyped “exclusively gay” moment that turned out to just be\u003ca href=\"https://www.vulture.com/2017/03/heres-the-exclusively-gay-moment-in-beauty-and-the-beast.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> a couple seconds\u003c/a> of two guys dancing together), so I get it. I can see how it seems like the equivalent of continuing to enjoy \u003cem>Blue’s Clues \u003c/em>even after you’ve reached 5th grade—to like a product ostensibly targeted at kids is to somehow exist in a state of arrested development and be disconnected from reality, so the thinking goes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To which I say: All fiction requires the audience to disconnect from reality! That’s the point! Also, have you seen \u003cem>Pinocchio \u003c/em>recently? That entire Pleasure Island sequence is like a PG-rated precursor to \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_the_Cat_(film)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Fritz the Cat\u003c/em>\u003c/a>!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the term “Disney Adult” suggests it’s something of an oxymoron, an incongruous identity—we don’t go around calling people Muppet Grown-Ups or Mature \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>fans, even as these fantastical franchises also appeal to people of all ages. \u003cem>Sigh.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"pop_97638","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>What it all boils down to is this: The Disney products we associate with princesses and talking animal sidekicks and musicals will never be “cool,” even as they’ve become the blueprint for cultural commodification in nearly every corner of western culture for nearly a century. And that’s fine! On the social ladder of pop culture fandom, Disney Adults are the theater kids. (Yes, in case you were wondering, I was a theater kid, too. A cool one, though.) We’re passionate—some a little too much so—and have a tendency to burst out into song at unexpected moments. We like to rank villains and princes, and drop way too much money for the chance to ride Space Mountain. We are an acquired taste. Just like every other cult–er, fandom.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This essay first appeared in NPR’s Pop Culture Happy Hour newsletter. \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/newsletter/pop-culture\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Sign up for the newsletter\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> so you don’t miss the next one, plus get weekly recommendations on what’s making us happy.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more,\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Yes%2C+I%27m+a+Disney+Adult.+Let+me+explain&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13914736/yes-im-a-disney-adult-let-me-explain","authors":["byline_arts_13914736"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_75"],"tags":["arts_3114","arts_3570","arts_3797","arts_3241"],"affiliates":["arts_137"],"featImg":"arts_13914737","label":"arts_137"},"arts_13914377":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13914377","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13914377","score":null,"sort":[1654193210000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"racist-star-wars-fans-arent-new-why-doesnt-disney-do-more-to-protect-its-actors","title":"Racist 'Star Wars' Fans Aren't New. Why Doesn't Disney Do More to Protect its Actors?","publishDate":1654193210,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Racist ‘Star Wars’ Fans Aren’t New. Why Doesn’t Disney Do More to Protect its Actors? | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":137,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>The most surprising thing about the racism directed at \u003cem>Obi-Wan Kenobi\u003c/em> star Moses Ingram is the fact that some people are still surprised by it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After all, other actors of color who have joined the \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> universe in recent years have complained about racist attacks from fans online, including \u003ca href=\"https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/09/john-boyega-star-wars-racism-interview\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">John Boyega\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.insider.com/kelly-marie-tran-racist-sexist-trolls-social-media-2021-3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kelly Marie Tran\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So it wasn’t exactly shocking to this non-white \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> fan when Ingram–whose turn as villainous Inquisitor Reva Sevander lights up the series—shared messages she received on social media from trolls using insults and the n-word to denigrate one of the most powerful Black women to join the franchise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/ReignOfApril/status/1531660224456626177\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s what is surprising to me: that the media companies behind the \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>juggernaut—Lucasfilm and its owner, Disney—haven’t done more to proactively support non-white actors and push back against the racism they regularly face when taking prominent roles in the franchise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why did Ingram have to reveal deeply hurtful and traumatizing messages to get this conversation out in the open? She has said that the studio \u003ca href=\"https://www.indiewire.com/2022/05/obi-wan-kenobi-moses-ingram-lucasfilm-warned-star-wars-racism-1234727577/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">warned her privately \u003c/a>racist fans would come after her when the TV series debuted—why didn’t they take action beforehand to denounce what they knew would likely come?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13892633']Let’s see prominent executives talk about the racism among fans before actors of color have to go public with their trauma. Let’s see an advertising campaign directed specifically at calling out racists and uplifting non-white performers. How about social media events with fans aimed at celebrating franchise diversity before a new TV show or film even debuts?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is well past time for the companies which make billions from these media properties to take action before the racists do.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Diversity in the franchise brings new challenges\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Producers are filling \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> movies with non-white stars, moving away from the franchise’s white-centered narratives in a way which makes the new stories more appealing to young audiences raised in a more multicultural society. Upcoming series \u003cem>Andor, Ahsoka \u003c/em>and \u003cem>Lando\u003c/em> have been announced, starring non-white actors Diego Luna, Rosario Dawson and Donald Glover.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that diversity, welcome as it is, also turns these actors of color into targets for a disaffected portion of the fanbase who seem personally threatened by the changes. These performers already face tremendous pressure to maintain the quality of a legendary franchise; now, the public can see the extra burden they face in the form of online harassment and insults.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/YNB/status/1531760996489961472\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is also a unique crystallization of a debate we have been having in the public space over many different issues. Does amping up the racial and ethnic diversity of a storied franchise improve its storytelling or needlessly hobble it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In other words, is diversity an institution’s strength or a weakness?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To be honest, this is a question I thought was answered long ago. Especially after one look at Chadwick Boseman in \u003cem>Black Panther\u003c/em>, Zendaya and Jacob Batalon in Marvel’s recent \u003cem>Spider-Man\u003c/em> movies, Pedro Pascal in \u003cem>The Mandalorian \u003c/em>and Dawson’s amazing performances \u003ca href=\"https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/11/rosario-dawson-dave-filoni-mandalorian-ahsoka-tano-grogu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">bringing to life\u003c/a> the character of former Jedi Padawan Ahsoka Tano. These gifted performers have enriched the movie and TV franchises where they have appeared, thrilling us fans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But they shouldn’t have to face abuse from an online mob alone to do it.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>An issue that reaches back to the beginning\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In a way, these problems trace back to the beginnings of the franchise. As I noted \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/05/27/1101767449/obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-disney-review\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">in my review\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Obi-Wan Kenobi,\u003c/em> \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> creator George Lucas has acknowledged that the Japanese film \u003cem>The Hidden Fortress\u003c/em> \u003ca href=\"https://daily.jstor.org/is-star-wars-cultural-appropriation/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">inspired aspects of his films\u003c/a>. The style of the Jedi Knights’ clothing, their fighting style and mysticism all seem lifted from that ethos—an unfortunate example of Hollywood’s tendency to appropriate Asian culture without featuring Asian actors or characters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13889379']Because of this, and because the original films had so little space for characters of color, it has been tough for some racist fans of the franchise to see a version of \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> that is more inclusive without feeling it is somehow compromised. On one level, it is bizarre to think that people could object to Black, Latinx or Asian actors in a story set in a faraway galaxy including non-human characters that resemble outsize dogs and goldfish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But quality science fiction stories are always about us humans in the time they were written, regardless of when or where they are set. So it makes sense that our current debates about tribalism, multiculturalism and equality would pop up here, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Look up \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_threat_theory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the definition of\u003c/a> Group Threat Theory to see an academic explanation for how a group in the majority reacts when a smaller minority gets more power.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m glad Ingram revealed this publicly. As a Black man who writes often about race and media, I’ve been on the receiving end of a lot of racist vitriol online myself, and it is seriously traumatizing to experience—let alone talk about openly. Still, detailing these messages are the only way to show the extent of the problem, and marshal support from non-racist fans, the studio, the press and \u003ca href=\"https://ew.com/tv/ewan-mcgregor-youre-no-star-wars-fan-bullying-moses-ingram/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">fellow actors\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1531804726165401600\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m also glad Disney and Lucasfilm are committed to the kind of casting choices which may anger some fans, but ultimately prove that science fiction and fantasy stories are places where anyone can be a hero. Young children of color today who imagine themselves as the good guys in a \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> story while at play, don’t have to also imagine that they are white—like fans from my generation mostly had to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='pop_83529']It is time now to protect that progress by protecting the actors of color who make it possible. Lucasfilm and Disney must find ways to help move this conversation along—in public—so that racist fans feel less welcome to express their noxious views and actors of color don’t have to feel like targets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These actors shouldn’t have to shoulder the extra burden of figuring out how to handle the racism unloaded on them by dozens of nameless fans. But to make that happen, the companies which employ them need to get visibly and substantially involved in working to drown out toxic voices attacking the franchise’s future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Racist+%27Star+Wars%27+fans+aren%27t+new.+Why+doesn%27t+Disney+do+more+to+protect+its+actors%3F&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"'Obi-Wan Kenobi' star Moses Ingram recently publicly shared the hateful messages she's received online.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705006771,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":1124},"headData":{"title":"Racist 'Star Wars' Fans Aren't New. 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She has said that the studio \u003ca href=\"https://www.indiewire.com/2022/05/obi-wan-kenobi-moses-ingram-lucasfilm-warned-star-wars-racism-1234727577/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">warned her privately \u003c/a>racist fans would come after her when the TV series debuted—why didn’t they take action beforehand to denounce what they knew would likely come?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13892633","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Let’s see prominent executives talk about the racism among fans before actors of color have to go public with their trauma. Let’s see an advertising campaign directed specifically at calling out racists and uplifting non-white performers. How about social media events with fans aimed at celebrating franchise diversity before a new TV show or film even debuts?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is well past time for the companies which make billions from these media properties to take action before the racists do.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Diversity in the franchise brings new challenges\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Producers are filling \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> movies with non-white stars, moving away from the franchise’s white-centered narratives in a way which makes the new stories more appealing to young audiences raised in a more multicultural society. Upcoming series \u003cem>Andor, Ahsoka \u003c/em>and \u003cem>Lando\u003c/em> have been announced, starring non-white actors Diego Luna, Rosario Dawson and Donald Glover.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that diversity, welcome as it is, also turns these actors of color into targets for a disaffected portion of the fanbase who seem personally threatened by the changes. These performers already face tremendous pressure to maintain the quality of a legendary franchise; now, the public can see the extra burden they face in the form of online harassment and insults.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1531760996489961472"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>This is also a unique crystallization of a debate we have been having in the public space over many different issues. Does amping up the racial and ethnic diversity of a storied franchise improve its storytelling or needlessly hobble it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In other words, is diversity an institution’s strength or a weakness?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To be honest, this is a question I thought was answered long ago. Especially after one look at Chadwick Boseman in \u003cem>Black Panther\u003c/em>, Zendaya and Jacob Batalon in Marvel’s recent \u003cem>Spider-Man\u003c/em> movies, Pedro Pascal in \u003cem>The Mandalorian \u003c/em>and Dawson’s amazing performances \u003ca href=\"https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/11/rosario-dawson-dave-filoni-mandalorian-ahsoka-tano-grogu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">bringing to life\u003c/a> the character of former Jedi Padawan Ahsoka Tano. These gifted performers have enriched the movie and TV franchises where they have appeared, thrilling us fans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But they shouldn’t have to face abuse from an online mob alone to do it.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>An issue that reaches back to the beginning\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In a way, these problems trace back to the beginnings of the franchise. As I noted \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/05/27/1101767449/obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-disney-review\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">in my review\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Obi-Wan Kenobi,\u003c/em> \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> creator George Lucas has acknowledged that the Japanese film \u003cem>The Hidden Fortress\u003c/em> \u003ca href=\"https://daily.jstor.org/is-star-wars-cultural-appropriation/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">inspired aspects of his films\u003c/a>. The style of the Jedi Knights’ clothing, their fighting style and mysticism all seem lifted from that ethos—an unfortunate example of Hollywood’s tendency to appropriate Asian culture without featuring Asian actors or characters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13889379","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Because of this, and because the original films had so little space for characters of color, it has been tough for some racist fans of the franchise to see a version of \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> that is more inclusive without feeling it is somehow compromised. On one level, it is bizarre to think that people could object to Black, Latinx or Asian actors in a story set in a faraway galaxy including non-human characters that resemble outsize dogs and goldfish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But quality science fiction stories are always about us humans in the time they were written, regardless of when or where they are set. So it makes sense that our current debates about tribalism, multiculturalism and equality would pop up here, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Look up \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_threat_theory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the definition of\u003c/a> Group Threat Theory to see an academic explanation for how a group in the majority reacts when a smaller minority gets more power.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m glad Ingram revealed this publicly. 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Young children of color today who imagine themselves as the good guys in a \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> story while at play, don’t have to also imagine that they are white—like fans from my generation mostly had to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"pop_83529","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>It is time now to protect that progress by protecting the actors of color who make it possible. Lucasfilm and Disney must find ways to help move this conversation along—in public—so that racist fans feel less welcome to express their noxious views and actors of color don’t have to feel like targets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These actors shouldn’t have to shoulder the extra burden of figuring out how to handle the racism unloaded on them by dozens of nameless fans. But to make that happen, the companies which employ them need to get visibly and substantially involved in working to drown out toxic voices attacking the franchise’s future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Racist+%27Star+Wars%27+fans+aren%27t+new.+Why+doesn%27t+Disney+do+more+to+protect+its+actors%3F&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13914377/racist-star-wars-fans-arent-new-why-doesnt-disney-do-more-to-protect-its-actors","authors":["byline_arts_13914377"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_74","arts_75","arts_990"],"tags":["arts_3114","arts_977","arts_831","arts_3652","arts_3797","arts_1884","arts_3241"],"affiliates":["arts_137"],"featImg":"arts_13914378","label":"arts_137"},"arts_13911658":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13911658","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13911658","score":null,"sort":[1649404312000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"concords-own-comic-con-brings-a-third-year-of-nerdy-fun","title":"Concord's Own Comic-Con Brings a Third Year of Nerdy Fun","publishDate":1649404312,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Concord’s Own Comic-Con Brings a Third Year of Nerdy Fun | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":140,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>While it may not compare to the grandeur and scope of its much larger cousin in San Diego, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kidfestconcord.com/contra-costa-con\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Contra Costa Con 3\u003c/a> boasts an impressive panel of guests, collectors and toys in Concord on Sunday—and of course, cosplay is \u003cem>highly\u003c/em> encouraged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Celebrities in attendance include Eric Roberts (Julia Roberts’ older brother), who has appeared in such films as \u003cem>The Dark Knight\u003c/em> (2008) and TV’s \u003cem>Doctor Who: The Movie\u003c/em> (1996). Also on hand is Eliza Roberts (Eric’s wife), a casting director for films and TV shows like \u003cem>National Lampoon’s Animal House\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Doctor Who: The Movie\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Star Wars fans, Charles Andrew Nelson will be in attendance. Nelson has portrayed Darth Vader since 1994 in projects like LucasArts’ \u003cem>Star Wars: Dark Forces\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Star Wars: Rebel Assault II: The Hidden Empire\u003c/em> games, and the Special Edition of \u003cem>Star Wars: \u003c/em>Episode V\u003cem> The Empire Strikes Back\u003c/em>. Lastly, one of the two Tusken Raiders in the original \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> movies, Alan Fernandes, will appear as a guest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13911669\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/ContraCon.R2D2-1020x772.jpg\" alt=\"Youngsters pose with R2D2 at Conta Costa Con.\" width=\"640\" height=\"484\" class=\"size-large wp-image-13911669\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/ContraCon.R2D2-1020x772.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/ContraCon.R2D2-800x605.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/ContraCon.R2D2-160x121.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/ContraCon.R2D2-768x581.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/ContraCon.R2D2.jpg 1504w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Youngsters pose with R2D2 at Conta Costa Con. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Conta Costa Con)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In keeping with comic-con tradition, expect booths galore with art, posters, cards, books, vintage video games, cosplay materials, comics and more. All in all, a fun event for comic, cosplay and sci-fi nerds, and plenty of family fun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Contra Costa Con 3 gets underway Sunday, April 10, from 10am–4pm at the Hilton Concord Hotel Golden Gate Ballroom. Kids 10 and under are free. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kidfestconcord.com/contra-costa-con\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Details here\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Actors from 'Star Wars,' 'The Dark Knight' and 'Animal House' will be on hand for Concord's convention. 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Also on hand is Eliza Roberts (Eric’s wife), a casting director for films and TV shows like \u003cem>National Lampoon’s Animal House\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Doctor Who: The Movie\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Star Wars fans, Charles Andrew Nelson will be in attendance. Nelson has portrayed Darth Vader since 1994 in projects like LucasArts’ \u003cem>Star Wars: Dark Forces\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Star Wars: Rebel Assault II: The Hidden Empire\u003c/em> games, and the Special Edition of \u003cem>Star Wars: \u003c/em>Episode V\u003cem> The Empire Strikes Back\u003c/em>. 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