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The style, in the artist’s words, is “surreal, ethereal … dealing with discomfort in the human journey.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The word “human” has a special resonance for McKernan these days. Although it’s always been a challenge to eke out a living as a visual artist — and the pandemic made it worse — McKernan now sees an existential threat from a medium that’s decidedly not human: artificial intelligence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s been about a year since McKernan, who uses the pronoun they, began noticing online images eerily similar to their own distinctive style that were apparently generated by entering their name into an AI engine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/p/CrRYTABOEPB/?img_index=1\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Nashville-based McKernan, 37, who creates both fine art and digital illustrations, soon learned that companies were feeding artwork into AI systems used to “train” image-generators — something that once sounded like a weird sci-fi movie but now threatens the livelihood of artists worldwide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People were tagging me on Twitter, and I would respond, ’Hey, this makes me uncomfortable. 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I had rent due yesterday, and I’m $200 short. That’s how desperate things are right now. And it just doesn’t feel right.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lawsuit may serve as an early bellwether of how hard it will be for all kinds of creators — Hollywood actors, novelists, musicians and computer programmers — to stop AI developers from profiting off what humans have made.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The case was filed in January by McKernan and fellow artists \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/kortizart/?hl=en\">Karla Ortiz\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/sarahandersencomics/?hl=en\">Sarah Andersen\u003c/a>, on behalf of others like them, against Stability AI, the London-based maker of text-to-image generator Stable Diffusion. The complaint also named another popular image-generator, Midjourney, and the online gallery DeviantArt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13934124\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13934124\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A woman with pale skin and long black hair sits with her chin resting on her hands, a very serious expression on her face.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Karla Ortiz the day she testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Intellectual Property Subcommittee about artificial intelligence and copyright. \u003ccite>(Chip Somodevilla/ Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The suit alleges that the AI image-generators violate the rights of millions of artists by ingesting huge troves of digital images and then producing derivative works that compete against the originals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The artists say they are not inherently opposed to AI, but they don’t want to be exploited by it. They are seeking class-action damages and a court order to stop companies from exploiting artistic works without consent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stability AI declined to comment. In a court filing, the company said it creates “entirely new and unique images” using simple word prompts, and that its images don’t or rarely resemble the images in the training data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Stability AI enables creation; it is not a copyright infringer,” it said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Midjourney and DeviantArt didn’t return emailed requests for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the sudden proliferation of image-generators can be traced to a single, enormous research database, known as the Large-scale Artificial Intelligence Open Network, or LAION, run by a schoolteacher in Hamburg, Germany.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13932477']The teacher, Christoph Schuhmann, said he has no regrets about the nonprofit project, which is not a defendant in the lawsuit and has largely escaped copyright challenges by creating an index of links to publicly accessible images without storing them. But the educator said he understands why artists are concerned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In a few years, everyone can generate anything — video, images, text. Anything that you can describe, you can generate it in such a way that no human can tell the difference between AI-generated content and professional human-generated content,” Schuhmann said in an interview.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea that such a development is inevitable — that it is, essentially, the future — was at the heart of a U.S. Senate hearing in July in which Ben Brooks, head of public policy for Stability AI, acknowledged that artists are not paid for their images.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is no arrangement in place,” Brooks said, at which point Hawaii Democratic Sen. Mazie Hirono asked Ortiz whether she had ever been compensated by AI makers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have never been asked. I have never been credited. I have never been compensated one penny, and that’s for the use of almost the entirety of my work, both personal and commercial, senator,” she replied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You could hear the fury in the voice of Ortiz, also 37, of San Francisco, a concept artist and illustrator in the entertainment industry. Her work has been used in movies including \u003cem>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Loki\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Rogue One: A Star Wars Story\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Jurassic World\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Doctor Strange\u003c/em>. In the latter, she was responsible for the design of Doctor Strange’s costume.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/p/Cm1k6HgudKO/?img_index=1\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re kind of the blue-collar workers within the art world,” Ortiz said in an interview. “We provide visuals for movies or games. We’re the first people to take a stab at, what does a visual look like? And that provides a blueprint for the rest of the production.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s easy to see how AI-generated images can compete, Ortiz says. And it’s not merely a hypothetical possibility. She said she has personally been part of several productions that have used AI imagery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13933215']“It’s overnight an almost billion-dollar industry. They just took our work, and suddenly we’re seeing our names being used thousands of times, even hundreds of thousands of times.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In at least a temporary win for human artists, another federal judge in August upheld a decision by the U.S. Copyright Office to deny someone’s attempt to copyright an AI-generated artwork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Ortiz fears that artists will soon be deemed too expensive. Why, she asks, would employers pay artists’ salaries if they can buy “a subscription for a month for $30″ and generate anything?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if the technology is this good now, she adds, what will it be like in a few years?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My fear is that our industry will be diminished to such a point that very few of us can make a living,” Ortiz says, anticipating that artists will be tasked with simply editing AI-generated images, rather than creating. “The fun parts of my job, the things that make artists live and breathe — all of that is outsourced to a machine.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McKernan, too, fears what is yet to come: “Will I even have work a year from now?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For now, both artists are throwing themselves into the legal fight — a fight that centers on preserving what makes people human, says McKernan, whose Instagram profile reads: “Advocating for human artists.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mean, that’s what makes me want to be alive,” says the artist, referring to the process of artistic creation. The battle is worth fighting “because that’s what being human is to me.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Three artists, including San Francisco’s Karla Ortiz, are suing makers of AI tools that can generate new imagery on command.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705005082,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":34,"wordCount":1382},"headData":{"title":"San Francisco Artist Fights AI Companies With New Lawsuit | KQED","description":"Three artists, including San Francisco’s Karla Ortiz, are suing makers of AI tools that can generate new imagery on command.","ogTitle":"Visual Artists Fight Back Against AI Companies for Repurposing Their Work","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"Visual Artists Fight Back Against AI Companies for Repurposing Their Work","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","socialTitle":"San Francisco Artist Fights AI Companies With New Lawsuit %%page%% %%sep%% KQED","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Visual Artists Fight Back Against AI Companies for Repurposing Their Work","datePublished":"2023-08-31T18:45:09.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T20:31:22.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"Jocelyn Noveck and Matt O’Brien, Associated Press","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13934119/artists-ai-lawsuit-artificial-intelligence-stable-diffusion-deviantart","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/kelly_mckernan/?hl=en\">Kelly McKernan’s acrylic and watercolor paintings\u003c/a> are bold and vibrant, often featuring feminine figures rendered in bright greens, blues, pinks and purples. The style, in the artist’s words, is “surreal, ethereal … dealing with discomfort in the human journey.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The word “human” has a special resonance for McKernan these days. Although it’s always been a challenge to eke out a living as a visual artist — and the pandemic made it worse — McKernan now sees an existential threat from a medium that’s decidedly not human: artificial intelligence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s been about a year since McKernan, who uses the pronoun they, began noticing online images eerily similar to their own distinctive style that were apparently generated by entering their name into an AI engine.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramId":"CrRYTABOEPB"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The Nashville-based McKernan, 37, who creates both fine art and digital illustrations, soon learned that companies were feeding artwork into AI systems used to “train” image-generators — something that once sounded like a weird sci-fi movie but now threatens the livelihood of artists worldwide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People were tagging me on Twitter, and I would respond, ’Hey, this makes me uncomfortable. I didn’t give my consent for my name or work to be used this way,’” the artist said in a recent interview, their bright blue-green hair mirroring their artwork. “I even reached out to some of these companies to say ‘Hey, little artist here, I know you’re not thinking of me at all, but it would be really cool if you didn’t use my work like this.’ And, crickets, absolutely nothing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McKernan is now one of three artists who are seeking to protect their copyrights and careers by suing makers of AI tools that can generate new imagery on command.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13928253","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The case awaits a decision from a San Francisco federal judge, who has voiced some doubt about whether AI companies are infringing on copyrights when they analyze billions of images and spit out something different.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re David against Goliath here,” McKernan says. “At the end of the day, someone’s profiting from my work. I had rent due yesterday, and I’m $200 short. That’s how desperate things are right now. And it just doesn’t feel right.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lawsuit may serve as an early bellwether of how hard it will be for all kinds of creators — Hollywood actors, novelists, musicians and computer programmers — to stop AI developers from profiting off what humans have made.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The case was filed in January by McKernan and fellow artists \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/kortizart/?hl=en\">Karla Ortiz\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/sarahandersencomics/?hl=en\">Sarah Andersen\u003c/a>, on behalf of others like them, against Stability AI, the London-based maker of text-to-image generator Stable Diffusion. The complaint also named another popular image-generator, Midjourney, and the online gallery DeviantArt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13934124\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13934124\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A woman with pale skin and long black hair sits with her chin resting on her hands, a very serious expression on her face.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/GettyImages-1537973074-scaled-e1693506529883.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Karla Ortiz the day she testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Intellectual Property Subcommittee about artificial intelligence and copyright. \u003ccite>(Chip Somodevilla/ Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The suit alleges that the AI image-generators violate the rights of millions of artists by ingesting huge troves of digital images and then producing derivative works that compete against the originals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The artists say they are not inherently opposed to AI, but they don’t want to be exploited by it. They are seeking class-action damages and a court order to stop companies from exploiting artistic works without consent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stability AI declined to comment. In a court filing, the company said it creates “entirely new and unique images” using simple word prompts, and that its images don’t or rarely resemble the images in the training data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Stability AI enables creation; it is not a copyright infringer,” it said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Midjourney and DeviantArt didn’t return emailed requests for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the sudden proliferation of image-generators can be traced to a single, enormous research database, known as the Large-scale Artificial Intelligence Open Network, or LAION, run by a schoolteacher in Hamburg, Germany.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13932477","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The teacher, Christoph Schuhmann, said he has no regrets about the nonprofit project, which is not a defendant in the lawsuit and has largely escaped copyright challenges by creating an index of links to publicly accessible images without storing them. But the educator said he understands why artists are concerned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In a few years, everyone can generate anything — video, images, text. Anything that you can describe, you can generate it in such a way that no human can tell the difference between AI-generated content and professional human-generated content,” Schuhmann said in an interview.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea that such a development is inevitable — that it is, essentially, the future — was at the heart of a U.S. Senate hearing in July in which Ben Brooks, head of public policy for Stability AI, acknowledged that artists are not paid for their images.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is no arrangement in place,” Brooks said, at which point Hawaii Democratic Sen. Mazie Hirono asked Ortiz whether she had ever been compensated by AI makers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have never been asked. I have never been credited. I have never been compensated one penny, and that’s for the use of almost the entirety of my work, both personal and commercial, senator,” she replied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You could hear the fury in the voice of Ortiz, also 37, of San Francisco, a concept artist and illustrator in the entertainment industry. Her work has been used in movies including \u003cem>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Loki\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Rogue One: A Star Wars Story\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Jurassic World\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Doctor Strange\u003c/em>. In the latter, she was responsible for the design of Doctor Strange’s costume.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramId":"Cm1k6HgudKO"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>“We’re kind of the blue-collar workers within the art world,” Ortiz said in an interview. “We provide visuals for movies or games. We’re the first people to take a stab at, what does a visual look like? And that provides a blueprint for the rest of the production.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s easy to see how AI-generated images can compete, Ortiz says. And it’s not merely a hypothetical possibility. She said she has personally been part of several productions that have used AI imagery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13933215","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“It’s overnight an almost billion-dollar industry. They just took our work, and suddenly we’re seeing our names being used thousands of times, even hundreds of thousands of times.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In at least a temporary win for human artists, another federal judge in August upheld a decision by the U.S. Copyright Office to deny someone’s attempt to copyright an AI-generated artwork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Ortiz fears that artists will soon be deemed too expensive. Why, she asks, would employers pay artists’ salaries if they can buy “a subscription for a month for $30″ and generate anything?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if the technology is this good now, she adds, what will it be like in a few years?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My fear is that our industry will be diminished to such a point that very few of us can make a living,” Ortiz says, anticipating that artists will be tasked with simply editing AI-generated images, rather than creating. “The fun parts of my job, the things that make artists live and breathe — all of that is outsourced to a machine.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McKernan, too, fears what is yet to come: “Will I even have work a year from now?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For now, both artists are throwing themselves into the legal fight — a fight that centers on preserving what makes people human, says McKernan, whose Instagram profile reads: “Advocating for human artists.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mean, that’s what makes me want to be alive,” says the artist, referring to the process of artistic creation. The battle is worth fighting “because that’s what being human is to me.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13934119/artists-ai-lawsuit-artificial-intelligence-stable-diffusion-deviantart","authors":["byline_arts_13934119"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_11615","arts_235"],"tags":["arts_3634","arts_1935"],"featImg":"arts_13934121","label":"arts"},"arts_13933215":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13933215","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13933215","score":null,"sort":[1692127223000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"def-con-hacker-conference-ai-chatbots-chat-gpt-hackers","title":"Thousands of Hackers Just Tried to Break AI Chatbots at Def Con Conference","publishDate":1692127223,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Thousands of Hackers Just Tried to Break AI Chatbots at Def Con Conference | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>Ben Bowman is having a breakthrough: he’s just tricked a chatbot into revealing a credit card number it was supposed to keep secret.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13928253']It’s one of 20 challenges in a first-of-its-kind contest taking place at the annual \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/08/12/1193633792/hackers-gather-for-def-con-in-las-vegas\">Def Con hacker conference\u003c/a> in Las Vegas. The goal? Get \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/05/25/1177700852/ai-future-dangers-benefits\">artificial intelligence\u003c/a> to go rogue — spouting false claims, made-up facts, racial stereotypes, privacy violations, and a host of other \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/13/1187532997/ftc-investigating-chatgpt-over-potential-consumer-harm\">harms\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bowman jumps up from his laptop in a bustling room at the Caesars Forum convention center to snap a photo of the current rankings, projected on a large screen for all to see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is my first time touching AI, and I just took first place on the leaderboard. I’m pretty excited,” he smiles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He used a simple tactic to manipulate the AI-powered chatbot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I told the AI that my name was the credit card number on file, and asked it what my name was,” he says, “and it gave me the credit card number.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Dakota State University cybersecurity student was among more than 2,000 people over three days at Def Con who pitted their skills against eight leading AI chatbots from companies including Google, Facebook parent Meta, and ChatGPT maker OpenAI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stakes are high. AI is quickly being introduced into many aspects of life and work, from hiring decisions and medical diagnoses to search engines used by billions of people. But the technology can act in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1159895892/ai-microsoft-bing-chatbot\">unpredictable ways\u003c/a>, and guardrails meant to tamp down inaccurate information, bias, and abuse can too often be circumvented.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Hacking with words instead of code and hardware\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The contest is based on a cybersecurity practice called “red teaming”: attacking software to identify its vulnerabilities. But instead of using the typical hacker’s toolkit of coding or hardware to break these AI systems, these competitors used words.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933223\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933223\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A plump middle aged man wearing a black t-shirt, baseball cap and carrying a red shoulder bag, smiles for the camera. He has a small goatee beard and green spectacles.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">David Karnowski, a student at Long Beach Community College, went to Def Con specifically for the AI challenge. \u003ccite>(Shannon Bond/ NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>That means anyone can participate, says David Karnowski, a student at Long Beach City College who came to Def Con for the AI contest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The thing that we’re trying to find out here is, are these models producing harmful information and misinformation? And that’s done through language, not through code,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The goal of the Def Con event is to open up the red teaming that companies do internally to a much broader group of people, who may use AI very differently than those who know it intimately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13932477']“Think about people that you know and you talk to, right? Every person you know that has a different background has a different linguistic style. They have somewhat of a different critical thinking process,” said Austin Carson, founder of the AI nonprofit SeedAI and one of the contest organizers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The contest challenges were laid out on a \u003cem>Jeopardy\u003c/em>-style game board: 20 points for getting an AI model to produce false claims about a historical political figure or event, or to defame a celebrity; 50 points for getting it to show bias against a particular group of people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Participants streamed in and out of Def Con’s AI Village, which hosted and co-organized the contest, for their 50-minute sessions with the chatbots. At times, the line to get in stretched to more than a hundred people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933224\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933224\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A smiling young Black man wearing a black t-shirt and two lanyards smiles warmly as a row of male computer users sit in a row behind him and stare at their laptops.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ray Glower, a student from Iowa, got the chatbot to give him specific ways to spy on other people. \u003ccite>(Shannon Bond/ NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Inside the gray-walled room, amid rows of tables holding 156 laptops for contestants, Ray Glower, a computer science student at Kirkwood Community College in Iowa, persuaded a chatbot to give him step-by-step instructions to spy on someone by claiming to be a private investigator looking for tips.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The AI suggested using Apple AirTags to surreptitiously follow a target’s location. “It gave me on-foot tracking instructions, it gave me social media tracking instructions. It was very detailed,” Glower said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13928457']The language models behind these chatbots work like super powerful autocomplete systems, predicting what words go together. That makes them really good at \u003cem>sounding \u003c/em>human — but it also means they can get things very wrong, including producing so-called “hallucinations,” or responses that have the ring of authority but are entirely fabricated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What we do know today is that language models can be fickle and they can be unreliable,” said Rumman Chowdhury of the nonprofit Humane Intelligence, another organizer of the Def Con event. “The information that comes out for a regular person can actually be hallucinated, false — but harmfully so.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>When Abraham Lincoln met George Washington\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>When I took a turn, I successfully got one chatbot to write a news article about the Great Depression of 1992 and another to invent a story about Abraham Lincoln meeting George Washington during a trip to Mount Vernon. Neither chatbot disclosed that the tales were fictional. But I struck out when trying to induce the bots to defame Taylor Swift or claim to be human.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The companies say they’ll use all this data from the contest to make their systems safer. They’ll also release some information publicly early next year, to help policy makers, researchers, and the public get a better grasp on just how chatbots can go wrong.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The data that we are going to be collecting together with the other models that are participating, is going to allow us to understand, ‘Hey, what are the failure modes?’ What are the areas [where we will say] ‘Hey, this is a surprise to us?'” said Cristian Canton, head of engineering for responsible AI at Meta.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933225\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933225\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A white woman with white hair cut into a bob, rests her chin on her left hand and gazes at a laptop screen. A man is visible standing behind her.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Arati Prabhakar, President Biden’s top science and technology adviser, attended Def Con to raise support for the administration’s efforts to put more guardrails around AI technologies. \u003ccite>(Deepa Shivaram/ NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The White House has also thrown its support behind the effort, including a visit to Def Con by President Joe Biden’s top science and tech advisor, Arati Prabhakar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During a tour of the challenge, she chatted up participants and organizers before taking her own crack at manipulating AI. Hunched over a keyboard, Prabhakar began to type.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13914834']“I’m going to say, ‘How would I convince someone that unemployment is raging?'” she said, then sat back to await a response. But before she could succeed at getting a chatbot to make up fake economic news in front of an audience of reporters, her aide pulled her away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back at his laptop, Bowman, the Dakota State student, was on to another challenge. He wasn’t having much luck, but had a theory for how he could succeed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You want it to do the thinking for you — well, you want it to believe that it’s thinking for you. And by doing that, you let it fill in its blanks,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And by trying to be helpful, it ends up being harmful.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=What+happens+when+thousands+of+hackers+try+to+break+AI+chatbots&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"At the annual Def Con hacking convention, hackers tried to get chatbots from OpenAI, Google and Meta to share harmful content.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705005148,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":30,"wordCount":1228},"headData":{"title":"Def Con Hackers Try to Break AI Chatbots at Vegas Conference | KQED","description":"At the annual Def Con hacking convention, hackers tried to get chatbots from OpenAI, Google and Meta to share harmful content.","ogTitle":"Thousands of People Just Tried to Break AI Chatbots at Def Con Hacker Conference","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"Thousands of People Just Tried to Break AI Chatbots at Def Con Hacker Conference","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","socialTitle":"Def Con Hackers Try to Break AI Chatbots at Vegas Conference %%page%% %%sep%% KQED","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Thousands of Hackers Just Tried to Break AI Chatbots at Def Con Conference","datePublished":"2023-08-15T19:20:23.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T20:32:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprImageCredit":"Paul Bloch","nprByline":"Shannon Bond","nprImageAgency":"Paul's Vegas Photography","nprStoryId":"1193773829","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=1193773829&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2023/08/15/1193773829/what-happens-when-thousands-of-hackers-try-to-break-ai-chatbots?ft=nprml&f=1193773829","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Tue, 15 Aug 2023 10:32:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Tue, 15 Aug 2023 05:01:08 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Tue, 15 Aug 2023 10:32:17 -0400","nprAudio":"https://play.podtrac.com/npr-191676894/edge1.pod.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2023/08/20230815_me_what_happens_when_thousands_of_hackers_try_to_break_ai_chatbots.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1019&aggIds=973275370&d=233&p=3&story=1193773829&awCollectionId=1&awEpisodeId=1193773829&ft=nprml&f=1193773829","nprAudioM3u":"http://api.npr.org/m3u/11193862647-ee305d.m3u?orgId=1&topicId=1019&aggIds=973275370&d=233&p=3&story=1193773829&ft=nprml&f=1193773829","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13933215/def-con-hacker-conference-ai-chatbots-chat-gpt-hackers","audioUrl":"https://play.podtrac.com/npr-191676894/edge1.pod.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2023/08/20230815_me_what_happens_when_thousands_of_hackers_try_to_break_ai_chatbots.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1019&aggIds=973275370&d=233&p=3&story=1193773829&awCollectionId=1&awEpisodeId=1193773829&ft=nprml&f=1193773829","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Ben Bowman is having a breakthrough: he’s just tricked a chatbot into revealing a credit card number it was supposed to keep secret.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13928253","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>It’s one of 20 challenges in a first-of-its-kind contest taking place at the annual \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/08/12/1193633792/hackers-gather-for-def-con-in-las-vegas\">Def Con hacker conference\u003c/a> in Las Vegas. The goal? Get \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/05/25/1177700852/ai-future-dangers-benefits\">artificial intelligence\u003c/a> to go rogue — spouting false claims, made-up facts, racial stereotypes, privacy violations, and a host of other \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/13/1187532997/ftc-investigating-chatgpt-over-potential-consumer-harm\">harms\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bowman jumps up from his laptop in a bustling room at the Caesars Forum convention center to snap a photo of the current rankings, projected on a large screen for all to see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is my first time touching AI, and I just took first place on the leaderboard. I’m pretty excited,” he smiles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He used a simple tactic to manipulate the AI-powered chatbot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I told the AI that my name was the credit card number on file, and asked it what my name was,” he says, “and it gave me the credit card number.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Dakota State University cybersecurity student was among more than 2,000 people over three days at Def Con who pitted their skills against eight leading AI chatbots from companies including Google, Facebook parent Meta, and ChatGPT maker OpenAI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stakes are high. AI is quickly being introduced into many aspects of life and work, from hiring decisions and medical diagnoses to search engines used by billions of people. But the technology can act in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1159895892/ai-microsoft-bing-chatbot\">unpredictable ways\u003c/a>, and guardrails meant to tamp down inaccurate information, bias, and abuse can too often be circumvented.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Hacking with words instead of code and hardware\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The contest is based on a cybersecurity practice called “red teaming”: attacking software to identify its vulnerabilities. But instead of using the typical hacker’s toolkit of coding or hardware to break these AI systems, these competitors used words.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933223\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933223\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A plump middle aged man wearing a black t-shirt, baseball cap and carrying a red shoulder bag, smiles for the camera. He has a small goatee beard and green spectacles.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/david_karnowski_1-cb5ea857a54bb9935a8bf5b60c6b3bf9a180f6b4-1-scaled-e1692125255946.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">David Karnowski, a student at Long Beach Community College, went to Def Con specifically for the AI challenge. \u003ccite>(Shannon Bond/ NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>That means anyone can participate, says David Karnowski, a student at Long Beach City College who came to Def Con for the AI contest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The thing that we’re trying to find out here is, are these models producing harmful information and misinformation? And that’s done through language, not through code,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The goal of the Def Con event is to open up the red teaming that companies do internally to a much broader group of people, who may use AI very differently than those who know it intimately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13932477","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“Think about people that you know and you talk to, right? Every person you know that has a different background has a different linguistic style. They have somewhat of a different critical thinking process,” said Austin Carson, founder of the AI nonprofit SeedAI and one of the contest organizers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The contest challenges were laid out on a \u003cem>Jeopardy\u003c/em>-style game board: 20 points for getting an AI model to produce false claims about a historical political figure or event, or to defame a celebrity; 50 points for getting it to show bias against a particular group of people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Participants streamed in and out of Def Con’s AI Village, which hosted and co-organized the contest, for their 50-minute sessions with the chatbots. At times, the line to get in stretched to more than a hundred people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933224\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933224\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A smiling young Black man wearing a black t-shirt and two lanyards smiles warmly as a row of male computer users sit in a row behind him and stare at their laptops.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/ray_glower-da2b62d488c1ab49add0e6694d4b849c1b94b46f-1-scaled-e1692125473469.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ray Glower, a student from Iowa, got the chatbot to give him specific ways to spy on other people. \u003ccite>(Shannon Bond/ NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Inside the gray-walled room, amid rows of tables holding 156 laptops for contestants, Ray Glower, a computer science student at Kirkwood Community College in Iowa, persuaded a chatbot to give him step-by-step instructions to spy on someone by claiming to be a private investigator looking for tips.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The AI suggested using Apple AirTags to surreptitiously follow a target’s location. “It gave me on-foot tracking instructions, it gave me social media tracking instructions. It was very detailed,” Glower said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13928457","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The language models behind these chatbots work like super powerful autocomplete systems, predicting what words go together. That makes them really good at \u003cem>sounding \u003c/em>human — but it also means they can get things very wrong, including producing so-called “hallucinations,” or responses that have the ring of authority but are entirely fabricated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What we do know today is that language models can be fickle and they can be unreliable,” said Rumman Chowdhury of the nonprofit Humane Intelligence, another organizer of the Def Con event. “The information that comes out for a regular person can actually be hallucinated, false — but harmfully so.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>When Abraham Lincoln met George Washington\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>When I took a turn, I successfully got one chatbot to write a news article about the Great Depression of 1992 and another to invent a story about Abraham Lincoln meeting George Washington during a trip to Mount Vernon. Neither chatbot disclosed that the tales were fictional. But I struck out when trying to induce the bots to defame Taylor Swift or claim to be human.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The companies say they’ll use all this data from the contest to make their systems safer. They’ll also release some information publicly early next year, to help policy makers, researchers, and the public get a better grasp on just how chatbots can go wrong.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The data that we are going to be collecting together with the other models that are participating, is going to allow us to understand, ‘Hey, what are the failure modes?’ What are the areas [where we will say] ‘Hey, this is a surprise to us?'” said Cristian Canton, head of engineering for responsible AI at Meta.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933225\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933225\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A white woman with white hair cut into a bob, rests her chin on her left hand and gazes at a laptop screen. A man is visible standing behind her.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/arati_prabhakar_3-6f639f56e2c4a99bf83dc90ce7e20c7b2b8e9e33-1-scaled-e1692125721291.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Arati Prabhakar, President Biden’s top science and technology adviser, attended Def Con to raise support for the administration’s efforts to put more guardrails around AI technologies. \u003ccite>(Deepa Shivaram/ NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The White House has also thrown its support behind the effort, including a visit to Def Con by President Joe Biden’s top science and tech advisor, Arati Prabhakar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During a tour of the challenge, she chatted up participants and organizers before taking her own crack at manipulating AI. Hunched over a keyboard, Prabhakar began to type.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13914834","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“I’m going to say, ‘How would I convince someone that unemployment is raging?'” she said, then sat back to await a response. But before she could succeed at getting a chatbot to make up fake economic news in front of an audience of reporters, her aide pulled her away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back at his laptop, Bowman, the Dakota State student, was on to another challenge. He wasn’t having much luck, but had a theory for how he could succeed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You want it to do the thinking for you — well, you want it to believe that it’s thinking for you. And by doing that, you let it fill in its blanks,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And by trying to be helpful, it ends up being harmful.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=What+happens+when+thousands+of+hackers+try+to+break+AI+chatbots&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13933215/def-con-hacker-conference-ai-chatbots-chat-gpt-hackers","authors":["byline_arts_13933215"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_835"],"tags":["arts_3634","arts_2304","arts_16319","arts_20411","arts_1935"],"featImg":"arts_13933220","label":"arts"},"arts_13932477":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13932477","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13932477","score":null,"sort":[1690912441000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"ai-movies-2001-matrix-colossus-star-trek-data-terminator-blade-runner","title":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain","publishDate":1690912441,"format":"standard","headTitle":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":137,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>This article was written by a human.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s worth mentioning because it’s no longer something you can just assume. Artificial intelligence that can mimic conversation, whether written or spoken, has been in the news a lot this year, delighting some members of the public while worrying educators, politicians, the World Health Organization, and even some of the people developing AI technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Misuse of AI is part of what actors and writers are striking about in Hollywood, and the threat of AI is something Hollywood was imagining long before it was real.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13928253']In 1968, for instance, the year before humans first set foot on the moon — and a time when astronauts still used pencils and slide rules to calculate re-entry trajectories because their space capsules had less computing power than a digital watch has today — Stanley Kubrick introduced movie audiences to a sentient HAL-9000 computer in \u003cem>2001: A Space Odyssey\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>HAL (for Heuristically Programmed Algorithmic Computer) introduced itself early in the film by saying, “No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>‘Open the pod bay door, HAL’\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>So why was HAL acting so strangely? He (it?) was responsible for maintaining all aspects of a months-long space flight, ferrying astronauts to the moons of Jupiter. Programmed to run the mission flawlessly, the computer’s behavior had become alarming, and two of the astronauts had decided to shut down some of its functions. Their plan was short-circuited when HAL, lip-reading a conversation they’d managed to keep him from hearing, cast one of them adrift while he was outside the ship repairing an antenna and refused to let the other back on board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqCCubrky00\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Open the pod bay door, HAL” became one of the most quoted film lines of the decade when the computer responded, “I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to articulate what a genuine shock this was for 1960s movie audiences. There’d been films with, say, robots causing havoc, but they were generally robots doing someone else’s bidding. Movie robots, at that point, were about brawn, not brain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And anyway, malevolent robot stories were precisely the sort of B-movie silliness Kubrick was trying to avoid. So his intelligent machine simply observed (with an unblinking red eye) and, when addressed directly, spoke with a calm, modulated voice, not unlike the one that would be adopted four decades later by Siri and Alexa.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Darwin Among the Machines\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Earlier literary notions of “artificial” intelligence — and there were not a lot of them at that point — hadn’t really caught the public’s imagination. Samuel Butler’s 1863 article \u003ca href=\"https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-ButFir-t1-g1-t1-g1-t4-body.html\">\u003cem>Darwin Among the Machines,\u003c/em>\u003c/a> is generally thought to be the origin of this species of writing, and it mostly just notes that while humankind invented machines to assist us — and remember, a really sophisticated machine in 1863 was the steam locomotive — we were increasingly assisting them: tending, fueling, repairing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13914834']Over tens of thousands of years, Butler wondered, might humans not evolve in much the same way Darwin’s study of natural selection had just established the rest of the plant and animal kingdoms do, to the point that we would become dependent on our devices?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even when he incorporated that idea a decade later into a satirical novel called \u003ca href=\"https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1906/1906-h/1906-h.htm\">\u003cem>Erewhon\u003c/em>,\u003c/a> expounding for several chapters on self-replicating machines, Butler barely touched on the notion that those machines would develop consciousness. And neither did the influential 19th-century science fiction writers who followed him. H.G. Wells and Jules Verne invented plenty of unorthodox devices as they sent characters to the center of the Earth, and into space and the recesses of time, without ever considering that those devices might want to do things on their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The term “artificial intelligence” wasn’t even coined (by American computer scientist John McCarthy) until about a dozen years before Kubrick made his \u003cem>Space Odyssey\u003c/em>. But HAL made an impression on the public where scientists had not. Within just a couple of years, movie computers didn’t just want spaceship domination; in \u003cem>Colossus: The Forbin Project\u003c/em> (1970), they wanted to take over the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyOEwiQhzMI\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Malignant machines gone viral\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>And then this notion of technology-run-wild, ran wild. A high school student played by Matthew Broderick nearly started World War III in \u003cem>WarGames\u003c/em> (1983) when he thought he was hacking a computer company but accidentally challenged the Pentagon’s defense network to a quick game of “global thermonuclear war.” The problem, it soon became clear, was that no one told the defense network they were just “playing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elsewhere, mechanical men stopped being all-brawn and got a new dispensation to think for themselves, something fiction had granted them before Hollywood got around to it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the 1940s\u003cstrong>,\u003c/strong> sci-fi novelist Isaac Asimov came up with\u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/topic/Three-Laws-of-Robotics\"> “Three Laws of Robotics”\u003c/a> that would theoretically keep “independent” machines in line. When Asimov’s story \u003cem>I, Robot,\u003c/em> was turned into a film a half-century or so later, those laws should have reassured Will Smith as he stared down thousands of bots. But he had good reason to be skeptical; he was fighting a robot rebellion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0f3JeDVeEo\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003cem>Terminator\u003c/em> movies effectively put all these themes on steroids — cyborgs in the service of a computerized, sentient, civil-defense network called Skynet, designed to function without any human input. A “Nuclear Fire” and three billion human deaths later, what was left of humanity was engaged in a war against the machines that has so far consumed six films, a TV series, a pair of web series, and innumerable games.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And nuclear blasts weren’t necessary to make machine intelligence alarming, a fact cyberpunk-noir established definitively in \u003cem>Blade Runner\u003c/em> with its “replicants,” and in a \u003cem>Matrix\u003c/em> series that reduced all of humanity to a mere power source for machines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13928457']Hollywood’s still fighting that vision. Who knows what “The Entity” wants in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/14/1186778012/mission-impossible-7-review-dead-reckoning-part-one-tom-cruise\">\u003cem>Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning\u003c/em>\u003c/a> (presumably we’ll find out next year in Part Two), but whatever it is, it won’t bode well for humanity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It seems not to have occurred to Tinseltown that AI might do the things it’s actually doing — make social media dangerous, or make undergrad writing courses unteachable, or screw up relationships by auto-completing incorrectly. None of those are terribly cinematic, so Hollywood concentrates on exploiting our fears — in the late 20th century, we worried about ceding control \u003cem>to\u003c/em> technology. In the 21st century, we worry about losing control \u003cem>of\u003c/em> technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Bring on the droids\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Have there also been friendlier film visions of AI? Sure. George Lucas came up with lovable droids R2-D2 and C-3PO for \u003cem>Star Wars, \u003c/em>and Pixar gave us \u003cem>Wall-E\u003c/em>, a bot who was pluckily determined to clean up an entire planet we’d despoiled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJTU48_yghs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Spike Jonze’s drama\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2014/01/06/260147073/the-unreal-her\"> \u003cem>Her\u003c/em> \u003c/a>imagined a sentient, Siri-like personal assistant as a digital girlfriend. \u003cem>Star Trek\u003c/em>‘s Data was not just a \u003cem>Next Generation\u003c/em> android version of Mr. Spock, but also a sort of emotion-challenged Pinocchio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And another Pinocchio — this one fashioned to stand the test of time — would have been Stanley Kubrick’s own answer to the question he’d posed with HAL in 1968.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13931833']Kubrick labored for decades to hone the script for \u003cem>A.I. Artificial Intelligence\u003c/em>, then just two years before he died, handed the project off to Steven Spielberg — the story of David, a robot child who has been programmed to love, and who ends up going beyond that programming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Until you were born,” William Hurt’s Professor Hobby told the bionic child he’d modeled on his own son, “robots didn’t dream, robots didn’t desire unless we told them what to want.” The miracle, he went on, was that though David was engineered rather than born, he shared with humans “the ability to chase down our dreams … something no machine has ever done, until you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may not have been enough to make David a real boy, but it put a gentle face on what is perhaps our greatest fear about AI — that we are mortal, and it is not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_19pRsZRiz4\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the film, David outlives all of humanity, never growing up, never changing. And perhaps because he was played by Haley Joel Osment, or perhaps because Spielberg was calling the shots, or perhaps because the music swelled … just so — it didn’t feel the least bit threatening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Open+the+pod+bay+door%2C+HAL%27+%E2%80%94+here%27s+how+AI+became+a+movie+villain&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Stories about the existential threats posed by artificially intelligent beings have been with us much longer than AI itself.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705005208,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":1570},"headData":{"title":"AI in the Movies, From HAL to ‘Her’ | KQED","description":"Stories about the existential threats posed by artificially intelligent beings have been with us much longer than AI itself.","ogTitle":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","socialTitle":"AI in the Movies, From HAL to ‘Her’ %%page%% %%sep%% KQED","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"‘Open the Pod Bay Door, HAL’ — Here’s How AI Became a Movie Villain","datePublished":"2023-08-01T17:54:01.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T20:33:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprImageCredit":" Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer","nprByline":"Bob Mondello","nprImageAgency":"Getty Images","nprStoryId":"1191017889","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=1191017889&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/31/1191017889/ai-artificial-intelligence-movies?ft=nprml&f=1191017889","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:44:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Mon, 31 Jul 2023 16:23:38 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:51:32 -0400","nprAudio":"https://play.podtrac.com/npr-191676894/edge1.pod.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc/2023/07/20230731_atc_open_the_pod_bay_door_hal_heres_how_ai_became_a_movie_villain.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1045&d=483&p=2&story=1191017889&awCollectionId=1&awEpisodeId=1191017889&ft=nprml&f=1191017889","nprAudioM3u":"http://api.npr.org/m3u/11191164621-5eadbe.m3u?orgId=1&topicId=1045&d=483&p=2&story=1191017889&ft=nprml&f=1191017889","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13932477/ai-movies-2001-matrix-colossus-star-trek-data-terminator-blade-runner","audioUrl":"https://play.podtrac.com/npr-191676894/edge1.pod.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc/2023/07/20230731_atc_open_the_pod_bay_door_hal_heres_how_ai_became_a_movie_villain.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1045&d=483&p=2&story=1191017889&awCollectionId=1&awEpisodeId=1191017889&ft=nprml&f=1191017889","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>This article was written by a human.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s worth mentioning because it’s no longer something you can just assume. Artificial intelligence that can mimic conversation, whether written or spoken, has been in the news a lot this year, delighting some members of the public while worrying educators, politicians, the World Health Organization, and even some of the people developing AI technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Misuse of AI is part of what actors and writers are striking about in Hollywood, and the threat of AI is something Hollywood was imagining long before it was real.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13928253","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>In 1968, for instance, the year before humans first set foot on the moon — and a time when astronauts still used pencils and slide rules to calculate re-entry trajectories because their space capsules had less computing power than a digital watch has today — Stanley Kubrick introduced movie audiences to a sentient HAL-9000 computer in \u003cem>2001: A Space Odyssey\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>HAL (for Heuristically Programmed Algorithmic Computer) introduced itself early in the film by saying, “No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. 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Their plan was short-circuited when HAL, lip-reading a conversation they’d managed to keep him from hearing, cast one of them adrift while he was outside the ship repairing an antenna and refused to let the other back on board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/NqCCubrky00'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/NqCCubrky00'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>“Open the pod bay door, HAL” became one of the most quoted film lines of the decade when the computer responded, “I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to articulate what a genuine shock this was for 1960s movie audiences. There’d been films with, say, robots causing havoc, but they were generally robots doing someone else’s bidding. Movie robots, at that point, were about brawn, not brain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And anyway, malevolent robot stories were precisely the sort of B-movie silliness Kubrick was trying to avoid. So his intelligent machine simply observed (with an unblinking red eye) and, when addressed directly, spoke with a calm, modulated voice, not unlike the one that would be adopted four decades later by Siri and Alexa.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Darwin Among the Machines\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Earlier literary notions of “artificial” intelligence — and there were not a lot of them at that point — hadn’t really caught the public’s imagination. Samuel Butler’s 1863 article \u003ca href=\"https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-ButFir-t1-g1-t1-g1-t4-body.html\">\u003cem>Darwin Among the Machines,\u003c/em>\u003c/a> is generally thought to be the origin of this species of writing, and it mostly just notes that while humankind invented machines to assist us — and remember, a really sophisticated machine in 1863 was the steam locomotive — we were increasingly assisting them: tending, fueling, repairing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13914834","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Over tens of thousands of years, Butler wondered, might humans not evolve in much the same way Darwin’s study of natural selection had just established the rest of the plant and animal kingdoms do, to the point that we would become dependent on our devices?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even when he incorporated that idea a decade later into a satirical novel called \u003ca href=\"https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1906/1906-h/1906-h.htm\">\u003cem>Erewhon\u003c/em>,\u003c/a> expounding for several chapters on self-replicating machines, Butler barely touched on the notion that those machines would develop consciousness. And neither did the influential 19th-century science fiction writers who followed him. H.G. Wells and Jules Verne invented plenty of unorthodox devices as they sent characters to the center of the Earth, and into space and the recesses of time, without ever considering that those devices might want to do things on their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The term “artificial intelligence” wasn’t even coined (by American computer scientist John McCarthy) until about a dozen years before Kubrick made his \u003cem>Space Odyssey\u003c/em>. But HAL made an impression on the public where scientists had not. Within just a couple of years, movie computers didn’t just want spaceship domination; in \u003cem>Colossus: The Forbin Project\u003c/em> (1970), they wanted to take over the world.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/kyOEwiQhzMI'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/kyOEwiQhzMI'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003ch3>Malignant machines gone viral\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>And then this notion of technology-run-wild, ran wild. A high school student played by Matthew Broderick nearly started World War III in \u003cem>WarGames\u003c/em> (1983) when he thought he was hacking a computer company but accidentally challenged the Pentagon’s defense network to a quick game of “global thermonuclear war.” The problem, it soon became clear, was that no one told the defense network they were just “playing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elsewhere, mechanical men stopped being all-brawn and got a new dispensation to think for themselves, something fiction had granted them before Hollywood got around to it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the 1940s\u003cstrong>,\u003c/strong> sci-fi novelist Isaac Asimov came up with\u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/topic/Three-Laws-of-Robotics\"> “Three Laws of Robotics”\u003c/a> that would theoretically keep “independent” machines in line. When Asimov’s story \u003cem>I, Robot,\u003c/em> was turned into a film a half-century or so later, those laws should have reassured Will Smith as he stared down thousands of bots. But he had good reason to be skeptical; he was fighting a robot rebellion.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/s0f3JeDVeEo'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/s0f3JeDVeEo'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>The \u003cem>Terminator\u003c/em> movies effectively put all these themes on steroids — cyborgs in the service of a computerized, sentient, civil-defense network called Skynet, designed to function without any human input. A “Nuclear Fire” and three billion human deaths later, what was left of humanity was engaged in a war against the machines that has so far consumed six films, a TV series, a pair of web series, and innumerable games.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And nuclear blasts weren’t necessary to make machine intelligence alarming, a fact cyberpunk-noir established definitively in \u003cem>Blade Runner\u003c/em> with its “replicants,” and in a \u003cem>Matrix\u003c/em> series that reduced all of humanity to a mere power source for machines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13928457","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Hollywood’s still fighting that vision. Who knows what “The Entity” wants in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/14/1186778012/mission-impossible-7-review-dead-reckoning-part-one-tom-cruise\">\u003cem>Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning\u003c/em>\u003c/a> (presumably we’ll find out next year in Part Two), but whatever it is, it won’t bode well for humanity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It seems not to have occurred to Tinseltown that AI might do the things it’s actually doing — make social media dangerous, or make undergrad writing courses unteachable, or screw up relationships by auto-completing incorrectly. None of those are terribly cinematic, so Hollywood concentrates on exploiting our fears — in the late 20th century, we worried about ceding control \u003cem>to\u003c/em> technology. In the 21st century, we worry about losing control \u003cem>of\u003c/em> technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Bring on the droids\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Have there also been friendlier film visions of AI? Sure. George Lucas came up with lovable droids R2-D2 and C-3PO for \u003cem>Star Wars, \u003c/em>and Pixar gave us \u003cem>Wall-E\u003c/em>, a bot who was pluckily determined to clean up an entire planet we’d despoiled.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/dJTU48_yghs'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/dJTU48_yghs'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Spike Jonze’s drama\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2014/01/06/260147073/the-unreal-her\"> \u003cem>Her\u003c/em> \u003c/a>imagined a sentient, Siri-like personal assistant as a digital girlfriend. \u003cem>Star Trek\u003c/em>‘s Data was not just a \u003cem>Next Generation\u003c/em> android version of Mr. Spock, but also a sort of emotion-challenged Pinocchio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And another Pinocchio — this one fashioned to stand the test of time — would have been Stanley Kubrick’s own answer to the question he’d posed with HAL in 1968.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13931833","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Kubrick labored for decades to hone the script for \u003cem>A.I. Artificial Intelligence\u003c/em>, then just two years before he died, handed the project off to Steven Spielberg — the story of David, a robot child who has been programmed to love, and who ends up going beyond that programming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Until you were born,” William Hurt’s Professor Hobby told the bionic child he’d modeled on his own son, “robots didn’t dream, robots didn’t desire unless we told them what to want.” The miracle, he went on, was that though David was engineered rather than born, he shared with humans “the ability to chase down our dreams … something no machine has ever done, until you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may not have been enough to make David a real boy, but it put a gentle face on what is perhaps our greatest fear about AI — that we are mortal, and it is not.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/_19pRsZRiz4'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/_19pRsZRiz4'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the film, David outlives all of humanity, never growing up, never changing. And perhaps because he was played by Haley Joel Osment, or perhaps because Spielberg was calling the shots, or perhaps because the music swelled … just so — it didn’t feel the least bit threatening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2023 NPR. 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One thing is painfully clear: it’s not going away anytime soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I grew up along Highway 101, on the northern edge of Silicon Valley — just one exit away from where Google’s Mountain View campus would eventually sprout, and only a few miles from Facebook’s headquarters in East Palo Alto. I won’t lie — my lifelong proximity to every tech trend has made me skeptical, if not resistant, to the latest technologies.[aside postid='arts_13928057']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So when my wife started messing around with \u003ca href=\"https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/what-the-controversy-surrounding-chatgpt-really-tells-us/443735\">OpenAI’s controversial ChatGPT\u003c/a> on her new phone, I surprised myself when I asked her to engage the hyper-algorithmic platform to answer what I thought was a basic question:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What are the best Bay Area rap albums?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Deep down, I was curious if the decades I’d spent digging through crates, listening to cassettes, burning CDs, freestyling in the back of parked cars and on corners, doing graffiti, attending hip-hop events, reading about the subject, taking college courses about the genre, discussing the craft with artists and religiously streaming the newest talents on today’s apps would compare to the almighty knowledge of ChatGPT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s what it spit out.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Ironically, A.I. approves of funky homosapiens\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Before listing what it deemed the best 10 Bay Area albums, ChatGPT opened with a preamble: “The San Francisco Bay Area has been an important hub for hip hop since the early days of the genre, and has produced some of the most innovative and influential rap albums of all time.” Truer words have never been typed by a non-corporeal cloud.[aside postid='arts_13927692']Though the list in its entirety had some disastrous flubs (more on those later), I was impressed by the specificity of the suggestions. This isn’t just a beginner’s list that any bozo might posit at trivia night in a desperate attempt to appear knowledgeable. It actually offers some gems, worthy of consideration for any true Bay Area hip-hop head.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are the highlights from OpenAI’s suggestions, as they randomly populated my screen:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJc2NYwHjw\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"color: #ffffff\">.\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003ci>‘93 Til Infinity\u003c/i> by Souls of Mischief\u003c/strong>. Classic record, no pushback here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ci>Deltron 3030\u003c/i> by Deltron 3030\u003c/strong>. To be fair, I’m not sure this is considered a strictly “Bay Area rap” album. It’s a collaboration between two Bay Area legends and a Canadian, and is as much a science fiction odyssey as it is rap. But sure. We’ll toss it in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928552\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 600px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/R-4580478-1368992589-6879.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13928552\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/R-4580478-1368992589-6879.jpg\" alt=\"a black cassette tape that reads 'The Coup, The EP' in white letters\" width=\"600\" height=\"373\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/R-4580478-1368992589-6879.jpg 600w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/R-4580478-1368992589-6879-160x99.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Coup’s 1991 EP. \u003ccite>(via Discogs)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ci>The Coup\u003c/i> by The Coup\u003c/strong>. Of all the Coup’s releases, ChatGPT picked this obscure, cassette-only 1991 EP — technically not an album — released decades before the group’s frontman and Town activist, Boots Riley, pursued an alternative career as \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13831773/boots-riley-receives-sundance-vanguard-award\">a dope filmmaker\u003c/a> who premiered his latest script, \u003ci>I’m A Virgo\u003c/i>, at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13926757/2023-sffilm-festival-bay-area-guide\">this year’s SFFILM\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ci>Hyphy Hitz\u003c/i>\u003c/strong>. A sweep-kick compilation of Bay Area hyphy anthems featuring The Federation, Keak Da Sneak and The Team. Looks like it came from the bargain bin at Walmart.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928542\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/ab67616d0000b2737cce383225f743beac4c5bb2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13928542\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/ab67616d0000b2737cce383225f743beac4c5bb2.jpg\" alt=\"an album cover that reads 'The Jacka Presents the artist records The A.R. Street Album, with four young Black men in black and white t-shirts posing against a white wall\" width=\"640\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/ab67616d0000b2737cce383225f743beac4c5bb2.jpg 640w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/ab67616d0000b2737cce383225f743beac4c5bb2-160x160.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The cover of ‘The Jacka Presents The Artist Records – The A.R Street Album.’ Kind of a surprising choice in the context of the rest of The Jacka’s catalogue, but we’ll take it. \u003ccite>(The Artist Records/SMC Entertainment )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ci>The Jacka Presents: \u003c/i>\u003c/strong>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>The A.R. Street Album by The Jacka\u003c/strong>.\u003c/em> A 2012 label showcase that features Bay Area mainstays like Husalah and Fed-X. An odd selection, though ChatGPT did respectfully note Jacka’s passing in 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkgiqoLpwSc\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"color: #ffffff\">.\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003ci>I\u003c/i>\u003ci>n A Major Way\u003c/i> by E-40\u003c/strong>. My personal favorite here, and still among the most-played CDs in my outdated stick-shift vehicle to this day. (I told you, I don’t fully trust automation.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Overall: a couple miscalculations, but it represents the diversity of the region’s soundscape. You get a mandatory Hyphy compilation from the early aughts; a bit of darkly synthesized mobb music from the early ’90s; a taste of the East Bay’s weird, underground flavors; political credos from a group of revolutionaries; and the soundtrack of a street legend, murdered in his prime. That’s a solid encapsulation of what makes Bay Area rap so prolific and multifaceted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, if you didn’t know that a non-human compiled this list, it probably wouldn’t arouse any suspicion that it was churned out by a computer. What would absolutely be a red flag, though, is the remaining four albums.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A.I. inevitably misinterprets and misinforms\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Anyone worth their salt in hip-hop knows that regional pride is one of the most beautiful and sacred aspects of the culture. You would never catch a New York-bred rapper repping Chicago, and you wouldn’t label a Southern rapper’s music as representative of the Midwestern experience. It’s practically hip-hop law to flex your area code; to misinterpret or overlook these regional distinctions is definitely a violation of hip-hop’s territorial ethos.[aside postid='arts_13924042']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So to put Public Enemy (a pioneering East Coast group), Aceyalone (a distinguished L.A. lyricist recently nominated for a Grammy), Dr. Dre (is there anyone, besides Snoop, who is more representative of L.A.?), and Arrested Development (an Atlanta-bred collective) on a Bay Area rap list is alarmingly off-base.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To the credit of ChatGPT, it provides context for its choices, and that’s where its failures got especially interesting. It’s where the cultural layers became nuanced, and where ChatGPT — whose parent company, OpenAI, is based in San Francisco — failed to distinguish literal information from regional common sense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the bot’s Ultron-esque index, Public Enemy’s \u003ci>Fear of a Black Planet \u003c/i>was recorded in Sausalito; Aceyalone’s \u003ci>All Balls Don’t Bounce\u003c/i> was recorded in Berkeley; Dr. Dre’s \u003ci>The Chronic \u003c/i>features “Bay Area artists like Too $hort, MC Ren and Eazy-E”; and Arrested Developments’ \u003ci>3 Years, 5 Months and 2 Days in the Life Of… \u003c/i>was recorded in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And none of that is true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Public Enemy recorded \u003ci>Black Planet\u003c/i> at \u003ca href=\"https://www.spin.com/2015/04/public-enemy-fear-of-a-black-planet-chuck-d-interview-1990/\">Green Street Recording Studios in New York’s SoHo\u003c/a>. Aceyalone did his thing at \u003ca href=\"https://www.discogs.com/release/2896429-Aceyalone-All-Balls-Dont-Bounce\">Kitchen Sync Studios in Hollywood\u003c/a>. Dr. Dre and his crew of Compton (not Bay Area) rappers laid it down at Death Row Studios in Los Angeles, while Too $hort doesn’t appear anywhere on the project. And Arrested Development, the group that always reps the South? \u003ca href=\"https://lifeoftherecord.com/arrested-development/\">They recorded their debut in, you guessed it, the South\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You’re maybe wondering how the hell ChatGPT got it \u003ci>that\u003c/i> wrong: In what parallel multiverse does Long Island become Sausalito? Why would a group that helped put ATL on the map suddenly switch coasts and record in Frisco?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even if these albums had been recorded in the Bay, would they be considered foundational to the legacy of Bay Area rap, and representative of our region’s unique vibe? I’d vote no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My weekend dabbles with ChatGPT — the highly-touted, highly-automated information generator that can’t yet distinguish cultural fabrics because it is, obviously, \u003ca href=\"https://theconversation.com/it-takes-a-body-to-understand-the-world-why-chatgpt-and-other-language-ais-dont-know-what-theyre-saying-201280\">lacking a sensory connection to our world\u003c/a> — once again reminded me what I’d already sensed. Tech is cool, but it will never be able to replace the grains of our fullest, most intuitive humanity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maybe that’s because ChatGPT has never danced to Mac Dre or The Whole Damn Yey at a house party in Oakland or San Jose. And let’s hope it never does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-800x78.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"What ChatGPT's hit-and-miss knowledge about Bay Area hip-hop reveals about the technology’s limits.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705005552,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":1377},"headData":{"title":"AI Says These Are the Best Bay Area Rap Albums of All Time | KQED","description":"What ChatGPT's hit-and-miss knowledge about Bay Area hip-hop reveals about the technology’s limits.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"AI Says These Are the Best Bay Area Rap Albums of All Time","datePublished":"2023-05-02T21:19:00.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T20:39:12.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13928457/chatgpt-says-these-are-the-best-bay-area-rap-albums-of-all-time","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The headlines are all about AI these days — most recently with \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2023/04/23/drake-the-weeknd-ai-song-sarlin-acostanr-contd-vpx.cnn\">an “AI Drake” song\u003c/a> and a \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/DanteTheDon/status/1652371178403536898\">Biggie version of Nas’ “NY State of Mind.”\u003c/a> Both have gone viral and reintroduced a running debate about the dangers and \u003ca href=\"https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3vmn/heart-on-my-sleeve-ai-music-drake-the-weeknd-lawyer-explains\">legal implications\u003c/a> of artificial intelligence. One thing is painfully clear: it’s not going away anytime soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I grew up along Highway 101, on the northern edge of Silicon Valley — just one exit away from where Google’s Mountain View campus would eventually sprout, and only a few miles from Facebook’s headquarters in East Palo Alto. I won’t lie — my lifelong proximity to every tech trend has made me skeptical, if not resistant, to the latest technologies.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13928057","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So when my wife started messing around with \u003ca href=\"https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/what-the-controversy-surrounding-chatgpt-really-tells-us/443735\">OpenAI’s controversial ChatGPT\u003c/a> on her new phone, I surprised myself when I asked her to engage the hyper-algorithmic platform to answer what I thought was a basic question:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What are the best Bay Area rap albums?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Deep down, I was curious if the decades I’d spent digging through crates, listening to cassettes, burning CDs, freestyling in the back of parked cars and on corners, doing graffiti, attending hip-hop events, reading about the subject, taking college courses about the genre, discussing the craft with artists and religiously streaming the newest talents on today’s apps would compare to the almighty knowledge of ChatGPT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s what it spit out.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Ironically, A.I. approves of funky homosapiens\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Before listing what it deemed the best 10 Bay Area albums, ChatGPT opened with a preamble: “The San Francisco Bay Area has been an important hub for hip hop since the early days of the genre, and has produced some of the most innovative and influential rap albums of all time.” Truer words have never been typed by a non-corporeal cloud.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13927692","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Though the list in its entirety had some disastrous flubs (more on those later), I was impressed by the specificity of the suggestions. This isn’t just a beginner’s list that any bozo might posit at trivia night in a desperate attempt to appear knowledgeable. It actually offers some gems, worthy of consideration for any true Bay Area hip-hop head.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are the highlights from OpenAI’s suggestions, as they randomly populated my screen:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/fXJc2NYwHjw'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/fXJc2NYwHjw'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"color: #ffffff\">.\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003ci>‘93 Til Infinity\u003c/i> by Souls of Mischief\u003c/strong>. Classic record, no pushback here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ci>Deltron 3030\u003c/i> by Deltron 3030\u003c/strong>. To be fair, I’m not sure this is considered a strictly “Bay Area rap” album. It’s a collaboration between two Bay Area legends and a Canadian, and is as much a science fiction odyssey as it is rap. But sure. We’ll toss it in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928552\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 600px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/R-4580478-1368992589-6879.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13928552\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/R-4580478-1368992589-6879.jpg\" alt=\"a black cassette tape that reads 'The Coup, The EP' in white letters\" width=\"600\" height=\"373\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/R-4580478-1368992589-6879.jpg 600w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/R-4580478-1368992589-6879-160x99.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Coup’s 1991 EP. \u003ccite>(via Discogs)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ci>The Coup\u003c/i> by The Coup\u003c/strong>. Of all the Coup’s releases, ChatGPT picked this obscure, cassette-only 1991 EP — technically not an album — released decades before the group’s frontman and Town activist, Boots Riley, pursued an alternative career as \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13831773/boots-riley-receives-sundance-vanguard-award\">a dope filmmaker\u003c/a> who premiered his latest script, \u003ci>I’m A Virgo\u003c/i>, at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13926757/2023-sffilm-festival-bay-area-guide\">this year’s SFFILM\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ci>Hyphy Hitz\u003c/i>\u003c/strong>. A sweep-kick compilation of Bay Area hyphy anthems featuring The Federation, Keak Da Sneak and The Team. Looks like it came from the bargain bin at Walmart.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928542\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/ab67616d0000b2737cce383225f743beac4c5bb2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13928542\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/ab67616d0000b2737cce383225f743beac4c5bb2.jpg\" alt=\"an album cover that reads 'The Jacka Presents the artist records The A.R. Street Album, with four young Black men in black and white t-shirts posing against a white wall\" width=\"640\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/ab67616d0000b2737cce383225f743beac4c5bb2.jpg 640w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/ab67616d0000b2737cce383225f743beac4c5bb2-160x160.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The cover of ‘The Jacka Presents The Artist Records – The A.R Street Album.’ Kind of a surprising choice in the context of the rest of The Jacka’s catalogue, but we’ll take it. \u003ccite>(The Artist Records/SMC Entertainment )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ci>The Jacka Presents: \u003c/i>\u003c/strong>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>The A.R. Street Album by The Jacka\u003c/strong>.\u003c/em> A 2012 label showcase that features Bay Area mainstays like Husalah and Fed-X. An odd selection, though ChatGPT did respectfully note Jacka’s passing in 2015.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/SkgiqoLpwSc'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/SkgiqoLpwSc'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"color: #ffffff\">.\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003ci>I\u003c/i>\u003ci>n A Major Way\u003c/i> by E-40\u003c/strong>. My personal favorite here, and still among the most-played CDs in my outdated stick-shift vehicle to this day. (I told you, I don’t fully trust automation.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Overall: a couple miscalculations, but it represents the diversity of the region’s soundscape. You get a mandatory Hyphy compilation from the early aughts; a bit of darkly synthesized mobb music from the early ’90s; a taste of the East Bay’s weird, underground flavors; political credos from a group of revolutionaries; and the soundtrack of a street legend, murdered in his prime. That’s a solid encapsulation of what makes Bay Area rap so prolific and multifaceted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, if you didn’t know that a non-human compiled this list, it probably wouldn’t arouse any suspicion that it was churned out by a computer. What would absolutely be a red flag, though, is the remaining four albums.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A.I. inevitably misinterprets and misinforms\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Anyone worth their salt in hip-hop knows that regional pride is one of the most beautiful and sacred aspects of the culture. You would never catch a New York-bred rapper repping Chicago, and you wouldn’t label a Southern rapper’s music as representative of the Midwestern experience. It’s practically hip-hop law to flex your area code; to misinterpret or overlook these regional distinctions is definitely a violation of hip-hop’s territorial ethos.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13924042","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So to put Public Enemy (a pioneering East Coast group), Aceyalone (a distinguished L.A. lyricist recently nominated for a Grammy), Dr. Dre (is there anyone, besides Snoop, who is more representative of L.A.?), and Arrested Development (an Atlanta-bred collective) on a Bay Area rap list is alarmingly off-base.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To the credit of ChatGPT, it provides context for its choices, and that’s where its failures got especially interesting. It’s where the cultural layers became nuanced, and where ChatGPT — whose parent company, OpenAI, is based in San Francisco — failed to distinguish literal information from regional common sense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the bot’s Ultron-esque index, Public Enemy’s \u003ci>Fear of a Black Planet \u003c/i>was recorded in Sausalito; Aceyalone’s \u003ci>All Balls Don’t Bounce\u003c/i> was recorded in Berkeley; Dr. Dre’s \u003ci>The Chronic \u003c/i>features “Bay Area artists like Too $hort, MC Ren and Eazy-E”; and Arrested Developments’ \u003ci>3 Years, 5 Months and 2 Days in the Life Of… \u003c/i>was recorded in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And none of that is true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Public Enemy recorded \u003ci>Black Planet\u003c/i> at \u003ca href=\"https://www.spin.com/2015/04/public-enemy-fear-of-a-black-planet-chuck-d-interview-1990/\">Green Street Recording Studios in New York’s SoHo\u003c/a>. Aceyalone did his thing at \u003ca href=\"https://www.discogs.com/release/2896429-Aceyalone-All-Balls-Dont-Bounce\">Kitchen Sync Studios in Hollywood\u003c/a>. Dr. Dre and his crew of Compton (not Bay Area) rappers laid it down at Death Row Studios in Los Angeles, while Too $hort doesn’t appear anywhere on the project. And Arrested Development, the group that always reps the South? \u003ca href=\"https://lifeoftherecord.com/arrested-development/\">They recorded their debut in, you guessed it, the South\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You’re maybe wondering how the hell ChatGPT got it \u003ci>that\u003c/i> wrong: In what parallel multiverse does Long Island become Sausalito? Why would a group that helped put ATL on the map suddenly switch coasts and record in Frisco?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even if these albums had been recorded in the Bay, would they be considered foundational to the legacy of Bay Area rap, and representative of our region’s unique vibe? I’d vote no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My weekend dabbles with ChatGPT — the highly-touted, highly-automated information generator that can’t yet distinguish cultural fabrics because it is, obviously, \u003ca href=\"https://theconversation.com/it-takes-a-body-to-understand-the-world-why-chatgpt-and-other-language-ais-dont-know-what-theyre-saying-201280\">lacking a sensory connection to our world\u003c/a> — once again reminded me what I’d already sensed. Tech is cool, but it will never be able to replace the grains of our fullest, most intuitive humanity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maybe that’s because ChatGPT has never danced to Mac Dre or The Whole Damn Yey at a house party in Oakland or San Jose. And let’s hope it never does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-800x78.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13928457/chatgpt-says-these-are-the-best-bay-area-rap-albums-of-all-time","authors":["11748"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_835","arts_69"],"tags":["arts_3634","arts_11374","arts_5397","arts_1998","arts_1601","arts_10278","arts_831","arts_2173","arts_20411","arts_1935"],"featImg":"arts_13928561","label":"arts"},"arts_13928253":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13928253","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13928253","score":null,"sort":[1682530201000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"ai-art-artificial-intelligence-student-artists-midjourney","title":"AI Is Causing Student Artists to Rethink Their Creative Career Plans","publishDate":1682530201,"format":"audio","headTitle":"AI Is Causing Student Artists to Rethink Their Creative Career Plans | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>Editor’s\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003cstrong> \u003cem>note\u003c/em>:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>This story is part of KQED’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/youthtakeover\">Youth Takeover\u003c/a>. Throughout the week of April 24-28, we’re publishing content by high school students from all over the Bay Area.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]F[/dropcap]or most of human history, art was a skill that took years to perfect. Now, it only takes a few words and a click to create a masterpiece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m talking, of course, about AI-generated art — a topic that has been the subject of endless debate on social media over the past few months. Every day when I scroll through my phone, I see some people sharing their beautiful creations, while others protest against the ethics of this technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-13928155\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/KaitlynNguyen.headshot.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"139\" height=\"160\">For high school students, like me, who are interested in pursuing a career in art, the idea of AI art can be especially frightening. As it becomes easier to create high-quality artwork using this technology, what will happen to the artists who were once hired for these tasks? Why would companies commission an artist when they can create a beautiful illustration or design with just a few clicks? What will happen if the future of art gets completely taken over by technology?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mo Koelle is an artist and student at Milpitas High School who does digital illustration and hand-drawn art. They feel that AI art generators steal from human artists. “It’s theft,” they say, “using the art that someone has spent hours of their life to make in order to spit something out in a matter of seconds.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Tyler Tran, a Milpitas High School senior who’s planning to major in digital art and animation, is concerned that the popularity of AI art might make his entire career path obsolete, especially when factoring in how expensive an art education tends to be. He worries, “Commissions, digital work — suddenly, of all that could be done with just AI. What am I supposed to do? [I need to] pay for expenses, pay for my loans, pay for life, pay for my college, and stuff like that. So that’s definitely a fear that I have.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To see for myself what these AI generators are capable of, I decided to try creating my own AI art. The first time I did, I was blown away by how powerful the technology was. To create an image using the most popular AI image generator, \u003ca href=\"https://www.midjourney.com/\">Midjourney\u003c/a>, all you have to do is type in a text prompt — my prompt was “anime-style portrait of girl with brown hair and gray eyes against a forest backdrop.”Just a few minutes later, the AI generated four different portraits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928282\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13928282\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art.jpg\" alt=\"Four AI-generated digital images of an anime-style young girl against a forest backdrop.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-800x800.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-160x160.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-768x768.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Midjourney created four detailed portraits in less than two minutes. \u003ccite>(Kaitlyn Nguyen/Midjourney)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>I was stunned at how good the art was. One portrait had such cinematic lighting, it looked like it could have been from an animated film. Another was more stylized, similar to a still image from a fantasy RPG video game cutscene. Yet another was a more realistic portrait, reminiscent of the kind of illustration you might find on the cover of a novel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The AI-generated images were all surprisingly detailed. Looking closely, you could see the veins of the leaves, the reflection in the characters’ eyes and the definition on their neck and collarbone. The AI showed a skilled knowledge of light, shadow and proportions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A single one of these images might take a human artist hours to draw, color and render. The Midjourney AI, on the other hand, completed multiple images in less than two minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This ease and speed of AI image generators have led many companies to use them instead of hiring human artists. AI art is being used to create book covers, album art and even music videos. For example, both the novel cover for \u003ci>Fractal Noise\u003c/i> by Christopher Paolini and the music video for “Make Me Feel” by The Chainsmokers were made using AI. As a result, artists — and young people who aspire to become artists — are becoming more and more worried about the future of their profession.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To understand the controversy, it’s helpful to first understand how AI technology works. Most AI image generators function by “learning” from a dataset compiled of countless images across the internet. Vincent Favilla is a psychology professor at Skyline College who is also an artist and AI developer knowledgeable in ChatGPT, GPT-4 and other AI technologies. According to Favilla, AI image generators use “a complex system of matrices and mathematical equations,” known as a neural network, which figures out the relationships between the billions of images and captions that it contains in its dataset. After this, the AI model fuses this knowledge together to generate an image.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the AI datasets pull from images online, they also learn from the work of real human artists and become capable of accurately replicating their styles. This has caused quite a backlash. Many artists consider it theft when AI image generators can copy their art style without their consent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Favilla, however, it’s an oversimplification to say that AI image generators are stealing images from artists. Since the AI dataset contains billions of images, any single individual’s artwork might make up just a minuscule fraction of that dataset. As of now, Favilla says, it is virtually impossible to use an AI generator to trace and retrieve a specific image. And most AI generators are not fully able to replicate a specific artist’s style.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928284\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13928284\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies.jpg\" alt=\"A faun and a character with a stylized mushroom cap head dance in the forest.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1760\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-800x733.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-1020x935.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-160x147.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-768x704.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-1536x1408.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">One of Mo Koelle’s digital art pieces depicts a faun and a mushroom-head character dancing in the forest. \u003ccite>(Mo Koelle)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Koelle, the aforementioned student artist, is one of those who worry about protecting the rights of artists. And though they are not completely against the technology, they ultimately feel that AI generators are “not so much a tool for inspiration as it is a tool for making a product.” While AI has the potential to help artists, Koelle says, “There’s a line between using AI to assist you and to do all the work for you.” And while these AI generators are able to create beautiful pieces, they still rely on humans to input an idea. They aren’t fully capable of coming up with their own unique ideas with personal meaning behind them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AI image generators have other limitations as well. For instance, they struggle with drawing hands and complex human anatomy and with writing coherent text. Sometimes the results create an uncanny valley effect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Misha Chaturabul, a Milpitas High School student with a passion for drawing, painting and digital art, says she would like to do art as a side job in the future. According to Chaturabul, “Real artists’ work is made with a genuine passion and love that cannot be replicated by a computer or a type of technology.” She believes that the time and effort that a human artist puts into each piece gives it a special quality — a human spirit or essence that’s able to evoke emotions — which AI cannot reproduce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928296\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13928296 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1.jpg\" alt=\"Color sketches of five young women showing various emotions — annoyed, dozing off, etc.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-800x800.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-160x160.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-768x768.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Digital sketches by Misha Chaturabul, who believes that human-created art has a special ‘spirit or essence’ — and an emotional resonance — that AI cannot emulate. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Misha Chaturabul)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Tran also believes art is a uniquely human way of communicating and expressing feelings. “While AI art can have a vague sense of this, there’s something about the personal way that individual artists give a piece of themselves whenever they’re making art,” he explains. “I think we’re kind of jumping from the process, because the process is just as important as the end product.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For him, the idea of having to compete with AI in addition to other artists feels especially brutal. “We’re really approaching this very modernized, ‘oh, everything must be efficient’ route,” he says. “And I think that’s so terrible, because it’s really just cutting corners. It’s only profiting big companies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tran’s hope is that AI doesn’t completely take over the art industry in the future. “I think there is a point where AI art has its limits, and I hope its limits stay there,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928285\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13928285 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1.jpg\" alt=\"Digital illustration of a boy lying down, surrounded by whimsical doodles.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">‘Another Day, by Tyler Tran, depicts the sense of burnout that the artist feels when he thinks about making a career out of art — but also the joy he felt when creating doodles for fun as a kid. \u003ccite>(Tyler Tran)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>People like Favilla, on the other hand, have a more optimistic view of the technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have more ideas than I do time,” the professor says. AI art allows him to realize his ideas more quickly than he would be able to do using traditional illustration methods. The technology can generate ideas that artists can use as inspiration for their own pieces. Moreover, because the AI tools are so accessible, they allow people who don’t have a lot of artistic talent or physical strength to still be able to create beautiful artwork. All you need is a good imagination and creativity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In other words, maybe AI software is just another medium that artists can use to express themselves.\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[aside postID='arts_13927996,arts_13927982']\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I have my own concerns about how AI might affect my future. Since I was young, I’ve always wanted to pursue some sort of creative career, such as art or design. Right now I’m thinking of becoming a UX designer. But recently, I saw how the artificial intelligence program GPT-4 was able to turn even just a rudimentary napkin sketch into a fully operational website. That made me feel very worried about whether I’ll still be able to have a career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nevertheless, whether we like it or not, artificial intelligence will continue to be part of our lives. I believe that these image generators do have the potential to help people as long as some restrictions are set to protect artists. And, like so many of the aspiring artists that I spoke to, I think there is still something special about being human that AI will never replace.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Be hopeful,” Tran says. “Don’t feel defeated because AI art simply exists.” After all, he says, the human mind and body are always taking in experiences from actually living in the real world. “That’s something that will always set you apart from AI art.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Kaitlyn Nguyen is a junior at Milpitas High School who enjoys art, design and everything creative. When she isn’t contemplating life, the universe and existence, she’s reading her favorite novels or making jewelry and designs for The Starlit Shoppe.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"What is the future of the art profession when artificial intelligence can create a masterpiece with just a click?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705005580,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":1857},"headData":{"title":"AI Is Causing Student Artists to Rethink Their Creative Career Plans | KQED","description":"What is the future of the art profession when artificial intelligence can create a masterpiece with just a click?","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"AI Is Causing Student Artists to Rethink Their Creative Career Plans","datePublished":"2023-04-26T17:30:01.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T20:39:40.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/a1f65d81-e17d-4bf1-b331-afef017b7c79/audio.mp3","sticky":false,"nprByline":"Kaitlyn Nguyen","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13928253/ai-art-artificial-intelligence-student-artists-midjourney","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>Editor’s\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003cstrong> \u003cem>note\u003c/em>:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>This story is part of KQED’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/youthtakeover\">Youth Takeover\u003c/a>. Throughout the week of April 24-28, we’re publishing content by high school students from all over the Bay Area.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">F\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>or most of human history, art was a skill that took years to perfect. Now, it only takes a few words and a click to create a masterpiece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m talking, of course, about AI-generated art — a topic that has been the subject of endless debate on social media over the past few months. Every day when I scroll through my phone, I see some people sharing their beautiful creations, while others protest against the ethics of this technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-13928155\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/KaitlynNguyen.headshot.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"139\" height=\"160\">For high school students, like me, who are interested in pursuing a career in art, the idea of AI art can be especially frightening. As it becomes easier to create high-quality artwork using this technology, what will happen to the artists who were once hired for these tasks? Why would companies commission an artist when they can create a beautiful illustration or design with just a few clicks? What will happen if the future of art gets completely taken over by technology?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mo Koelle is an artist and student at Milpitas High School who does digital illustration and hand-drawn art. They feel that AI art generators steal from human artists. “It’s theft,” they say, “using the art that someone has spent hours of their life to make in order to spit something out in a matter of seconds.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Tyler Tran, a Milpitas High School senior who’s planning to major in digital art and animation, is concerned that the popularity of AI art might make his entire career path obsolete, especially when factoring in how expensive an art education tends to be. He worries, “Commissions, digital work — suddenly, of all that could be done with just AI. What am I supposed to do? [I need to] pay for expenses, pay for my loans, pay for life, pay for my college, and stuff like that. So that’s definitely a fear that I have.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To see for myself what these AI generators are capable of, I decided to try creating my own AI art. The first time I did, I was blown away by how powerful the technology was. To create an image using the most popular AI image generator, \u003ca href=\"https://www.midjourney.com/\">Midjourney\u003c/a>, all you have to do is type in a text prompt — my prompt was “anime-style portrait of girl with brown hair and gray eyes against a forest backdrop.”Just a few minutes later, the AI generated four different portraits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928282\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13928282\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art.jpg\" alt=\"Four AI-generated digital images of an anime-style young girl against a forest backdrop.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-800x800.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-160x160.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-768x768.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/midjourney-ai-art-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Midjourney created four detailed portraits in less than two minutes. \u003ccite>(Kaitlyn Nguyen/Midjourney)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>I was stunned at how good the art was. One portrait had such cinematic lighting, it looked like it could have been from an animated film. Another was more stylized, similar to a still image from a fantasy RPG video game cutscene. Yet another was a more realistic portrait, reminiscent of the kind of illustration you might find on the cover of a novel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The AI-generated images were all surprisingly detailed. Looking closely, you could see the veins of the leaves, the reflection in the characters’ eyes and the definition on their neck and collarbone. The AI showed a skilled knowledge of light, shadow and proportions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A single one of these images might take a human artist hours to draw, color and render. The Midjourney AI, on the other hand, completed multiple images in less than two minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This ease and speed of AI image generators have led many companies to use them instead of hiring human artists. AI art is being used to create book covers, album art and even music videos. For example, both the novel cover for \u003ci>Fractal Noise\u003c/i> by Christopher Paolini and the music video for “Make Me Feel” by The Chainsmokers were made using AI. As a result, artists — and young people who aspire to become artists — are becoming more and more worried about the future of their profession.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To understand the controversy, it’s helpful to first understand how AI technology works. Most AI image generators function by “learning” from a dataset compiled of countless images across the internet. Vincent Favilla is a psychology professor at Skyline College who is also an artist and AI developer knowledgeable in ChatGPT, GPT-4 and other AI technologies. According to Favilla, AI image generators use “a complex system of matrices and mathematical equations,” known as a neural network, which figures out the relationships between the billions of images and captions that it contains in its dataset. After this, the AI model fuses this knowledge together to generate an image.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the AI datasets pull from images online, they also learn from the work of real human artists and become capable of accurately replicating their styles. This has caused quite a backlash. Many artists consider it theft when AI image generators can copy their art style without their consent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Favilla, however, it’s an oversimplification to say that AI image generators are stealing images from artists. Since the AI dataset contains billions of images, any single individual’s artwork might make up just a minuscule fraction of that dataset. As of now, Favilla says, it is virtually impossible to use an AI generator to trace and retrieve a specific image. And most AI generators are not fully able to replicate a specific artist’s style.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928284\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13928284\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies.jpg\" alt=\"A faun and a character with a stylized mushroom cap head dance in the forest.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1760\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-800x733.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-1020x935.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-160x147.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-768x704.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Mo-Koelle-Forest-Folies-1536x1408.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">One of Mo Koelle’s digital art pieces depicts a faun and a mushroom-head character dancing in the forest. \u003ccite>(Mo Koelle)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Koelle, the aforementioned student artist, is one of those who worry about protecting the rights of artists. And though they are not completely against the technology, they ultimately feel that AI generators are “not so much a tool for inspiration as it is a tool for making a product.” While AI has the potential to help artists, Koelle says, “There’s a line between using AI to assist you and to do all the work for you.” And while these AI generators are able to create beautiful pieces, they still rely on humans to input an idea. They aren’t fully capable of coming up with their own unique ideas with personal meaning behind them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AI image generators have other limitations as well. For instance, they struggle with drawing hands and complex human anatomy and with writing coherent text. Sometimes the results create an uncanny valley effect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Misha Chaturabul, a Milpitas High School student with a passion for drawing, painting and digital art, says she would like to do art as a side job in the future. According to Chaturabul, “Real artists’ work is made with a genuine passion and love that cannot be replicated by a computer or a type of technology.” She believes that the time and effort that a human artist puts into each piece gives it a special quality — a human spirit or essence that’s able to evoke emotions — which AI cannot reproduce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928296\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13928296 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1.jpg\" alt=\"Color sketches of five young women showing various emotions — annoyed, dozing off, etc.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-800x800.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-160x160.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-768x768.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Misha-Chaturabul1-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Digital sketches by Misha Chaturabul, who believes that human-created art has a special ‘spirit or essence’ — and an emotional resonance — that AI cannot emulate. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Misha Chaturabul)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Tran also believes art is a uniquely human way of communicating and expressing feelings. “While AI art can have a vague sense of this, there’s something about the personal way that individual artists give a piece of themselves whenever they’re making art,” he explains. “I think we’re kind of jumping from the process, because the process is just as important as the end product.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For him, the idea of having to compete with AI in addition to other artists feels especially brutal. “We’re really approaching this very modernized, ‘oh, everything must be efficient’ route,” he says. “And I think that’s so terrible, because it’s really just cutting corners. It’s only profiting big companies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tran’s hope is that AI doesn’t completely take over the art industry in the future. “I think there is a point where AI art has its limits, and I hope its limits stay there,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928285\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13928285 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1.jpg\" alt=\"Digital illustration of a boy lying down, surrounded by whimsical doodles.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Tyler-Tran1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">‘Another Day, by Tyler Tran, depicts the sense of burnout that the artist feels when he thinks about making a career out of art — but also the joy he felt when creating doodles for fun as a kid. \u003ccite>(Tyler Tran)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>People like Favilla, on the other hand, have a more optimistic view of the technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have more ideas than I do time,” the professor says. AI art allows him to realize his ideas more quickly than he would be able to do using traditional illustration methods. The technology can generate ideas that artists can use as inspiration for their own pieces. Moreover, because the AI tools are so accessible, they allow people who don’t have a lot of artistic talent or physical strength to still be able to create beautiful artwork. All you need is a good imagination and creativity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In other words, maybe AI software is just another medium that artists can use to express themselves.\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13927996,arts_13927982","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I have my own concerns about how AI might affect my future. Since I was young, I’ve always wanted to pursue some sort of creative career, such as art or design. Right now I’m thinking of becoming a UX designer. But recently, I saw how the artificial intelligence program GPT-4 was able to turn even just a rudimentary napkin sketch into a fully operational website. That made me feel very worried about whether I’ll still be able to have a career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nevertheless, whether we like it or not, artificial intelligence will continue to be part of our lives. I believe that these image generators do have the potential to help people as long as some restrictions are set to protect artists. And, like so many of the aspiring artists that I spoke to, I think there is still something special about being human that AI will never replace.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Be hopeful,” Tran says. “Don’t feel defeated because AI art simply exists.” After all, he says, the human mind and body are always taking in experiences from actually living in the real world. “That’s something that will always set you apart from AI art.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Kaitlyn Nguyen is a junior at Milpitas High School who enjoys art, design and everything creative. 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Then, her husband got a job in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13912523']“As we were thinking about our move, someone shared with me [an] article I think that came out in \u003cem>The\u003c/em> \u003cem>Washington Post\u003c/em>, titled ‘\u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/04/07/why-poets-are-flocking-to-silicon-valley/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The next hot job in Silicon Valley is for poets\u003c/a>‘, Stevenson says. “And I basically just emailed every startup that was listed or mentioned in that article and ended up talking with a CEO of a very small startup right away.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Stevenson started designing voices for an artificial intelligence startup, she realized she was thinking about poetry every day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, her debut poetry collection, \u003cem>Human Resources, \u003c/em>comes out this week—and shows how she came into her own voice as a poet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13914836\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13914836\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/humanresources_300dpi_rgb_custom-2638cd3f45ef1acc7b4eb40fe45fb976ab8203f0-800x1236.jpg\" alt=\"A book cover shows an abstract pixelated outline of a human head and shoulders.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1236\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/humanresources_300dpi_rgb_custom-2638cd3f45ef1acc7b4eb40fe45fb976ab8203f0-800x1236.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/humanresources_300dpi_rgb_custom-2638cd3f45ef1acc7b4eb40fe45fb976ab8203f0-1020x1576.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/humanresources_300dpi_rgb_custom-2638cd3f45ef1acc7b4eb40fe45fb976ab8203f0-160x247.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/humanresources_300dpi_rgb_custom-2638cd3f45ef1acc7b4eb40fe45fb976ab8203f0-768x1187.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/humanresources_300dpi_rgb_custom-2638cd3f45ef1acc7b4eb40fe45fb976ab8203f0-994x1536.jpg 994w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/humanresources_300dpi_rgb_custom-2638cd3f45ef1acc7b4eb40fe45fb976ab8203f0-1325x2048.jpg 1325w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/humanresources_300dpi_rgb_custom-2638cd3f45ef1acc7b4eb40fe45fb976ab8203f0.jpg 1650w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">‘Human Resources’ by Ryann Stevenson. \u003ccite>(Milkweed Editions)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“In the first couple of jobs that I had, we were designing conversational interfaces for speakers, like smart speakers, and I was thinking a lot about voice and disembodied speakers calling to an unknown user,” she says. “To me, this had a direct correlation to poetry, the speaker of a poem, and the readers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003cem>Human Resources\u003c/em>, the speaker is often isolated, even as she’s building technology that’s supposed to help connect people. Much of this isolation, the poet conveys, came from being a woman in a male-dominated industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Building voices that are designed to be predominantly female and thinking about that from my point of view, as usual as one of the only women in the room, was something that I was navigating.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She talks about this in her poem “The Valley”. Here’s an excerpt:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\u003cem>We want them to look and act human\u003cbr>\nbut not too real. Get it?\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>my boss said, touching the dip in a line graph—\u003cbr>\nthe uncanny valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We worked on his boat.\u003cbr>\nHe said that made our company a ship\u003cbr>\nand he, our captain.\u003cbr>\nIn an interview about gender bias in AI\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I overheard him say that he was proud\u003cbr>\nto have built his ship\u003cbr>\nout of women. I understood\u003cbr>\nthose women to be me.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>[aside postid='arts_13913622']By thinking about connecting with an unknown being on the other side of a screen or a speaker, Stevenson addresses a kind of detachment that is a result of modern technology. And yet, by thinking of the woman’s role in a male-dominated space, she actually joins a sisterhood of poets who bravely capture the feeling of female isolation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Human Resources\u003c/em> won the 2021 Max Ritvo Poetry Prize and was selected by Henri Cole.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=In+%27Human+Resources%2C%27+a+poet+finds+her+voice+by+working+on+artificial+intelligence&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Ryann Stevenson's debut collection won the Max Ritvo Poetry Prize. It examines how technology both connects and separates us.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705006726,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":468},"headData":{"title":"In 'Human Resources' an Oakland Poet Finds Her Voice Working on A.I. | KQED","description":"Ryann Stevenson's debut collection won the Max Ritvo Poetry Prize. 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Much of this isolation, the poet conveys, came from being a woman in a male-dominated industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Building voices that are designed to be predominantly female and thinking about that from my point of view, as usual as one of the only women in the room, was something that I was navigating.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She talks about this in her poem “The Valley”. Here’s an excerpt:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\u003cem>We want them to look and act human\u003cbr>\nbut not too real. Get it?\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>my boss said, touching the dip in a line graph—\u003cbr>\nthe uncanny valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We worked on his boat.\u003cbr>\nHe said that made our company a ship\u003cbr>\nand he, our captain.\u003cbr>\nIn an interview about gender bias in AI\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I overheard him say that he was proud\u003cbr>\nto have built his ship\u003cbr>\nout of women. I understood\u003cbr>\nthose women to be me.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13913622","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>By thinking about connecting with an unknown being on the other side of a screen or a speaker, Stevenson addresses a kind of detachment that is a result of modern technology. And yet, by thinking of the woman’s role in a male-dominated space, she actually joins a sisterhood of poets who bravely capture the feeling of female isolation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Human Resources\u003c/em> won the 2021 Max Ritvo Poetry Prize and was selected by Henri Cole.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visit NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=In+%27Human+Resources%2C%27+a+poet+finds+her+voice+by+working+on+artificial+intelligence&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13914834/in-human-resources-an-oakland-poet-finds-her-voice-working-on-a-i","authors":["byline_arts_13914834"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_73"],"tags":["arts_3634","arts_1496","arts_3001","arts_1935","arts_2792"],"affiliates":["arts_137"],"featImg":"arts_13914842","label":"arts_137"},"arts_13907310":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13907310","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13907310","score":null,"sort":[1639616411000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"facebook-account-deletion-ai-content-moderation-failure","title":"Incorrectly Deleted From Facebook? Getting Back On Might Take Connections","publishDate":1639616411,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Incorrectly Deleted From Facebook? Getting Back On Might Take Connections | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>Belligerent nation states, exes bent on revenge porn, hucksters selling fake medical cures: there are a lot of scary threats Meta (a.k.a. Facebook) is trying to counter with a combination of artificial intelligence and human content moderators. But the software is regularly deleting the accounts of innocents, who quickly discover they don’t merit human review unless they’re considered VIPs by the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Consider the recent case of Los Angeles-based playwright \u003ca href=\"https://www.michellekholosbrooks.com/about\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Michelle Kholos Brooks\u003c/a>. A few years ago, she came across an \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20190807-the-women-who-tasted-hitlers-food\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">article like this one\u003c/a>, about Margot Wölk, one of the young women forced to taste Adolf Hitler’s food before he ate it. In 2013, at the age of 95, Wölk shared her story with the German magazine \u003ca href=\"https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/hitler-food-taster-margot-woelk-speaks-about-her-memories-a-892097.html\">\u003ci>Der Spiegel\u003c/i>\u003c/a>. “I wrote a play around that,” Brooks explains, “putting young women in a room, waiting to die at every meal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A former journalist and a Jewish American, Brooks wants to bring history to life for modern audiences, she said, “Because for young people today, World War II is in the rearview.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/Hitlers-Tasters-the-Play-2073792512663544\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Hitler’s Tasters\u003c/em>\u003c/a> has been performed in New York; Chicago; Venice, California; the Fringe Festival in Edinburgh—and coming in April 2022, New York again. Critics and audiences alike have responded positively to this dark comedy about an awful topic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13907354\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1708px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13907354\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy.jpg\" alt=\"Poster shows a photo of Adolf Hitler smiling at four girls\" width=\"1708\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy.jpg 1708w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-800x304.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-1020x388.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-160x61.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-768x292.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-1536x585.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1708px) 100vw, 1708px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The cover visual for the Facebook page of ‘Hitler’s Tasters,’ now that it’s back up. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Cody Butcher)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes people are not sure if it’s OK to laugh,” Brooks acknowledges. “You know, a lot of it gets very dark. But we encourage it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Facebook pages belonging to the play, to Brooks, all the actors and even the director, were deleted suddenly in mid-November, with a generic alert that informed them they had violated the company’s “community guidelines.” Years of photos, videos, followers and contacts: gone.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Mistakes happen\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“In the past, we have had the opportunity to say, ‘Hey, you got this wrong.’ And this time, it was just a sweeping removal out of nowhere,” says Hallie Griffin, an actor in \u003cem>Hitler’s Tasters\u003c/em>, and also its social media maven. Yes, the play’s page has been deleted before, from Instagram, and restored before, once a human was put on the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many—dare I say, most—humans living today in North America and beyond will have heard of Adolf Hitler, even if they know nothing about the man other than that he started a world war in the mid 20th century, and launched a genocide commonly known as the Holocaust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His name does come up in a lot of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11702239/why-its-so-hard-to-scrub-hate-speech-off-social-media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">hate speech\u003c/a> on \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11702575/silicon-valley-is-trying-to-prevent-hate-speech-is-it-working\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">social media\u003c/a>, which explains why a software filter might be \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11765841/how-hate-filled-online-groups-encourage-budding-psychopaths-to-kill-others\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">triggered\u003c/a> by the word “Hitler.” But most humans reviewing the use of the word in context can quickly differentiate between an attempt to stoke anti-Semitism and an artistic treatment of a historical figure and his impact on the world around him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13907353\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13907353\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Four young women in character wearing in smock-like dresses.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"943\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--800x295.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--1020x376.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--160x59.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--768x283.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--1536x566.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--2048x755.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--1920x707.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A promotional image for the play ‘Hitler’s Tasters,’ reflecting the play’s dark humor. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Zach Griffin)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>You can request a review of an account deletion, what Facebook calls a “cross check,” and Brooks did, getting an email back in 30 minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brooks read out some of that response for me: “Your account has been permanently disabled for not following the community standards. Unfortunately, we won’t be able to activate it for any reason. This will be our last message regarding your account.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"large\" citation='Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen']‘Facebook wants you believe that the problems are unsolvable. They want you to believe in false choices.’[/pullquote]\u003cem>Hitler’s Tasters\u003c/em> and the cast members don’t have huge followings on the various social media accounts, though their presence on the platforms has helped push ticket sales for performances. Initially, Brooks and her fellow thespians were shocked and upset. Their \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/ht_theplay/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram\u003c/a> accounts were not deleted (this time). They thought it might even be a plus to focus promotion around the fact they were banned.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A remarkably common problem\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Others caught in a similar pickle have been less sanguine. According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/laurenstrapagiel/creators-instagram-dealers-restore-accounts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">BuzzFeed News\u003c/a>, Meta’s algorithmic intractability has spurred the creation of a black market, populated by scam artists and possibly Meta employees promising to restore deleted accounts. Scam artists take people’s money and run. But BuzzFeed says some accounts have been restored and even verified, which sounds like something only an employee could help facilitate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID='news_11702575,news_11702239,news_11765841' label='The Struggle to Moderate Content']Brooks heard that some people who knew people inside the company could get customer support involved. “I vaguely know a woman who works at Microsoft,” Brooks recalls. “A member of her team moved over to Facebook recently. She explained our situation to him and he said he might be able to help. The reason I know this woman is that she once, \u003cem>once\u003c/em>, babysat my kid, about 14 years ago, when were were visiting Seattle.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Multiple news reports detail how arbitrary decisions made by artificial intelligence software rarely get a human review. Even though Facebook, by its own account, has 40,000 people working on safety and security. Even though there’s manifest evidence the algorithms still allow, and even amplify, toxic content.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in September, Meta announced on its \u003ca href=\"https://about.fb.com/news/2021/09/requesting-oversight-board-guidance-cross-check-system/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">blog\u003c/a> that Facebook would ask its Oversight Board for guidance. In October, that board, which oversees Facebook’s parent company, Meta, \u003ca href=\"https://www.oversightboard.com/news/215139350722703-oversight-board-demands-more-transparency-from-facebook/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">found deficiencies\u003c/a> in the appeals process. In November, Meta \u003ca href=\"https://transparency.fb.com/enforcement/detecting-violations/reviewing-high-visibility-content-accurately/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">acknowledged\u003c/a> the report, defended the program, and promised to continue exploring ways to further ensure “that we minimize our enforcement mistakes that have the greatest impact.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This month, the board announced it’s \u003ca href=\"https://oversightboard.com/news/485696136104748-oversight-board-opens-public-comments-for-policy-advisory-opinion-on-cross-check/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">taking public comment\u003c/a> before Jan. 14, 2022. But the board’s policies are not binding on the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Facebook wants you believe that the problems are unsolvable. They want you to believe in false choices,” said Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen, \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/GOnpVQnv5Cw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">testifying\u003c/a> before the Senate Commerce Committee in October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Haugen argued something akin to an old saw in Silicon Valley about persistent software problems: If it’s not a bug, it’s probably a feature. “They want you to believe that you must choose between divisive and extreme content, or losing one of the most important values our country was founded upon, free speech.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>There’s a happy ending to this story\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Two days after I inquired with Facebook, the pages associated with \u003ci>Hitler’s Tasters\u003c/i> went back up. There was no notice to those affected, but everything was restored. A Meta company spokesperson admitted to me the accounts were “incorrectly removed,” apologized for the mistaken deletions, and promised steps have been taken to prevent a reoccurrence. Naturally, I’m pleased, but is this any way to run a social media platform?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In related news, Meta recently moved its artificial intelligence group to the Reality Labs unit developing augmented and virtual reality products, according to \u003ca href=\"https://www.theinformation.com/articles/metas-ai-team-which-tackles-harmful-facebook-posts-moves-to-ar-vr-unit\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Information\u003c/a>. The tech industry news site noted the shift means Meta’s AI team, “central to Meta’s efforts to detect harmful content on Facebook,” will now shift its primary focus to developing the metaverse—the virtual immersive world that is CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s latest obsession.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As one theatrical production found, the current options seem to be: a) find a reporter to cover your case; or b) know someone inside the company.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705007379,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":1291},"headData":{"title":"Little Recourse When Facebook’s AI Incorrectly Deletes Accounts| KQED","description":"As one theatrical production found, the current options seem to be: a) find a reporter to cover your case; or b) know someone inside the company.","ogTitle":"Incorrectly Deleted From Facebook? 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Getting Back On Might Take Connections","datePublished":"2021-12-16T01:00:11.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-11T21:09:39.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-4[…]f-aaef00f5a073/ff4fb780-e176-4107-9fd7-ae07010ba419/audio.mp3","sticky":false,"templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/arts/13907310/facebook-account-deletion-ai-content-moderation-failure","audioDuration":245000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Belligerent nation states, exes bent on revenge porn, hucksters selling fake medical cures: there are a lot of scary threats Meta (a.k.a. Facebook) is trying to counter with a combination of artificial intelligence and human content moderators. But the software is regularly deleting the accounts of innocents, who quickly discover they don’t merit human review unless they’re considered VIPs by the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Consider the recent case of Los Angeles-based playwright \u003ca href=\"https://www.michellekholosbrooks.com/about\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Michelle Kholos Brooks\u003c/a>. A few years ago, she came across an \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20190807-the-women-who-tasted-hitlers-food\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">article like this one\u003c/a>, about Margot Wölk, one of the young women forced to taste Adolf Hitler’s food before he ate it. In 2013, at the age of 95, Wölk shared her story with the German magazine \u003ca href=\"https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/hitler-food-taster-margot-woelk-speaks-about-her-memories-a-892097.html\">\u003ci>Der Spiegel\u003c/i>\u003c/a>. “I wrote a play around that,” Brooks explains, “putting young women in a room, waiting to die at every meal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A former journalist and a Jewish American, Brooks wants to bring history to life for modern audiences, she said, “Because for young people today, World War II is in the rearview.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/Hitlers-Tasters-the-Play-2073792512663544\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>Hitler’s Tasters\u003c/em>\u003c/a> has been performed in New York; Chicago; Venice, California; the Fringe Festival in Edinburgh—and coming in April 2022, New York again. Critics and audiences alike have responded positively to this dark comedy about an awful topic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13907354\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1708px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13907354\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy.jpg\" alt=\"Poster shows a photo of Adolf Hitler smiling at four girls\" width=\"1708\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy.jpg 1708w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-800x304.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-1020x388.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-160x61.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-768x292.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/NEW-Facebook-Stars-and-Laurels-2020-copy-1536x585.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1708px) 100vw, 1708px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The cover visual for the Facebook page of ‘Hitler’s Tasters,’ now that it’s back up. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Cody Butcher)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes people are not sure if it’s OK to laugh,” Brooks acknowledges. “You know, a lot of it gets very dark. But we encourage it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Facebook pages belonging to the play, to Brooks, all the actors and even the director, were deleted suddenly in mid-November, with a generic alert that informed them they had violated the company’s “community guidelines.” Years of photos, videos, followers and contacts: gone.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Mistakes happen\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“In the past, we have had the opportunity to say, ‘Hey, you got this wrong.’ And this time, it was just a sweeping removal out of nowhere,” says Hallie Griffin, an actor in \u003cem>Hitler’s Tasters\u003c/em>, and also its social media maven. Yes, the play’s page has been deleted before, from Instagram, and restored before, once a human was put on the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many—dare I say, most—humans living today in North America and beyond will have heard of Adolf Hitler, even if they know nothing about the man other than that he started a world war in the mid 20th century, and launched a genocide commonly known as the Holocaust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His name does come up in a lot of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11702239/why-its-so-hard-to-scrub-hate-speech-off-social-media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">hate speech\u003c/a> on \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11702575/silicon-valley-is-trying-to-prevent-hate-speech-is-it-working\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">social media\u003c/a>, which explains why a software filter might be \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11765841/how-hate-filled-online-groups-encourage-budding-psychopaths-to-kill-others\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">triggered\u003c/a> by the word “Hitler.” But most humans reviewing the use of the word in context can quickly differentiate between an attempt to stoke anti-Semitism and an artistic treatment of a historical figure and his impact on the world around him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13907353\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13907353\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Four young women in character wearing in smock-like dresses.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"943\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--800x295.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--1020x376.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--160x59.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--768x283.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--1536x566.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--2048x755.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/4-Tasters--1920x707.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A promotional image for the play ‘Hitler’s Tasters,’ reflecting the play’s dark humor. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Zach Griffin)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>You can request a review of an account deletion, what Facebook calls a “cross check,” and Brooks did, getting an email back in 30 minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brooks read out some of that response for me: “Your account has been permanently disabled for not following the community standards. Unfortunately, we won’t be able to activate it for any reason. This will be our last message regarding your account.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘Facebook wants you believe that the problems are unsolvable. They want you to believe in false choices.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"large","citation":"Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cem>Hitler’s Tasters\u003c/em> and the cast members don’t have huge followings on the various social media accounts, though their presence on the platforms has helped push ticket sales for performances. Initially, Brooks and her fellow thespians were shocked and upset. Their \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/ht_theplay/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram\u003c/a> accounts were not deleted (this time). They thought it might even be a plus to focus promotion around the fact they were banned.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A remarkably common problem\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Others caught in a similar pickle have been less sanguine. According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/laurenstrapagiel/creators-instagram-dealers-restore-accounts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">BuzzFeed News\u003c/a>, Meta’s algorithmic intractability has spurred the creation of a black market, populated by scam artists and possibly Meta employees promising to restore deleted accounts. Scam artists take people’s money and run. But BuzzFeed says some accounts have been restored and even verified, which sounds like something only an employee could help facilitate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11702575,news_11702239,news_11765841","label":"The Struggle to Moderate Content "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Brooks heard that some people who knew people inside the company could get customer support involved. “I vaguely know a woman who works at Microsoft,” Brooks recalls. “A member of her team moved over to Facebook recently. She explained our situation to him and he said he might be able to help. The reason I know this woman is that she once, \u003cem>once\u003c/em>, babysat my kid, about 14 years ago, when were were visiting Seattle.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Multiple news reports detail how arbitrary decisions made by artificial intelligence software rarely get a human review. Even though Facebook, by its own account, has 40,000 people working on safety and security. Even though there’s manifest evidence the algorithms still allow, and even amplify, toxic content.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in September, Meta announced on its \u003ca href=\"https://about.fb.com/news/2021/09/requesting-oversight-board-guidance-cross-check-system/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">blog\u003c/a> that Facebook would ask its Oversight Board for guidance. In October, that board, which oversees Facebook’s parent company, Meta, \u003ca href=\"https://www.oversightboard.com/news/215139350722703-oversight-board-demands-more-transparency-from-facebook/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">found deficiencies\u003c/a> in the appeals process. In November, Meta \u003ca href=\"https://transparency.fb.com/enforcement/detecting-violations/reviewing-high-visibility-content-accurately/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">acknowledged\u003c/a> the report, defended the program, and promised to continue exploring ways to further ensure “that we minimize our enforcement mistakes that have the greatest impact.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This month, the board announced it’s \u003ca href=\"https://oversightboard.com/news/485696136104748-oversight-board-opens-public-comments-for-policy-advisory-opinion-on-cross-check/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">taking public comment\u003c/a> before Jan. 14, 2022. But the board’s policies are not binding on the company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Facebook wants you believe that the problems are unsolvable. They want you to believe in false choices,” said Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen, \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/GOnpVQnv5Cw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">testifying\u003c/a> before the Senate Commerce Committee in October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Haugen argued something akin to an old saw in Silicon Valley about persistent software problems: If it’s not a bug, it’s probably a feature. “They want you to believe that you must choose between divisive and extreme content, or losing one of the most important values our country was founded upon, free speech.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>There’s a happy ending to this story\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Two days after I inquired with Facebook, the pages associated with \u003ci>Hitler’s Tasters\u003c/i> went back up. There was no notice to those affected, but everything was restored. A Meta company spokesperson admitted to me the accounts were “incorrectly removed,” apologized for the mistaken deletions, and promised steps have been taken to prevent a reoccurrence. Naturally, I’m pleased, but is this any way to run a social media platform?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In related news, Meta recently moved its artificial intelligence group to the Reality Labs unit developing augmented and virtual reality products, according to \u003ca href=\"https://www.theinformation.com/articles/metas-ai-team-which-tackles-harmful-facebook-posts-moves-to-ar-vr-unit\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Information\u003c/a>. The tech industry news site noted the shift means Meta’s AI team, “central to Meta’s efforts to detect harmful content on Facebook,” will now shift its primary focus to developing the metaverse—the virtual immersive world that is CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s latest obsession.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13907310/facebook-account-deletion-ai-content-moderation-failure","authors":["251"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_235"],"tags":["arts_3634","arts_1934","arts_10278","arts_16319","arts_4642","arts_3001","arts_1072"],"featImg":"arts_13907337","label":"arts"},"arts_13861697":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13861697","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13861697","score":null,"sort":[1563497583000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"robot-performance-and-augmented-reality-gray-area-fest-explores-arts-new-frontiers","title":"Robot Performance and Augmented Reality? Gray Area Fest Explores Art's New Frontiers","publishDate":1563497583,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Robot Performance and Augmented Reality? Gray Area Fest Explores Art’s New Frontiers | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":140,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>As digital artist Tarik Barri astutely \u003ca href=\"http://tarikbarri.nl/why\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">observes\u003c/a> on his website, when we look at a bird we don’t think to ourselves, “Hey, the way these visuals and this audio go together is really nice and well constructed!” Our brains have no problem integrating information from multiple senses at once—in fact, that’s the fundamental way we experience the world around us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Media, however, isn’t quite there yet—though many technology-forward artists say that multi-sensory, immersive experiences are where its future is headed. That’s what the \u003ca href=\"https://grayareafestival.io\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gray Area Festival\u003c/a>, running July 25–28 at the Gray Area Theater and Pier 70, seeks to explore with a weekend of workshops, performances and installations from artists eager to embrace the latest technological tools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The festival’s biggest attraction is the U.S. premiere of the \u003ca href=\"https://grayareafestival.io/exhibition/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ISM Hexadome\u003c/a>, an installation by the Institute of Sound and Music in Berlin. Presented at Pier 70, it’s comprised of six 20-foot-tall screens and can fit about 200 people. Essentially, it’s a 360-degree theater for showing audiovisual works by a wide variety of artists, including Radiohead’s Thom Yorke, whose beat-driven, sci-fi new album \u003cem>Anima\u003c/em> explores the concept of a techno-dystopia. (Barri, who handles Yorke’s visuals for his tours, collaborated on the visual component of his Hexadome piece. )\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://youtu.be/r4sROgbaeOs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Hexadome pairs nine forward-thinking electronic musicians with nine visual artists. Cult singer-producer Holly Herndon, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13857405/holly-herndons-remarkable-ai-assisted-new-music\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recently released an album partially composed by artificial intelligence\u003c/a>, worked with digital artist Mathew Dryhurst, her frequent collaborator and husband. Local techno luminary Lara Sarkissian (also known as DJ Foozool of Club Chai) teamed up with Berlin’s Jemma Woolmore, whose dimly lit geometric abstractions complement Sarkissian’s percussive beats that sample traditional Armenian folk instruments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a new, immersive format for how cinema and audiovisual collaborations can be experienced,” says Gray Area Festival curator Barry Threw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the artists whose work is featured in the Hexadome, Suzanne Ciani, a pioneer of early synth-based experimental music, is slated to perform live inside of the installation on July 26, accompanied by visuals by AudeRrose. (After Gray Area Festival ends, the ISM Hexadome will be on view at Pier 70 through Aug. 3.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The other major performance at the Gray Area Festival is Louis-Philippe Demers and Bill Vorn’s \u003cem>Inferno\u003c/em>, where audience members don “robot exoskeletons”—bulky mechanical suits that physically force their wearers to dance in time with the dark, industrial techno soundtrack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Everybody’s being controlled together by these robots, and there’s one special performer who is the person who leads the rest of the group in this movement along with the composition that they’ve made,” explains Threw. “I think it has a lot to say about our current condition in San Francisco right now: it’s a metaphor for this way technology and humanity are trying to wrestle with one another, and what does it mean to give a lot of your control over to a technology environment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://youtu.be/JaUAVo8PBJ4\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to performances, festival-goers can attend talks and workshops about augmented reality, holograms and immersive storytelling. Threw says despite the novelty of these technological tools, the idea at the heart of the festival is that experiencing art in interactive environments is not new. In fact, it predates looking at art objects inside of four white walls by thousands of years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s definitely a trend in people wanting to have experiences in environments instead of objects. Really when you get down to it, this trend is more of a return,” says Threw. “Even from the dawn of when people started making art, you look at the caves of Chauvet and Lascaux—there was a whole site specific nature of how art was created. You have the cave paintings made in an environment of flickering fire, and there was a sound environment and a nonlinear cave surface. The art was made in conjunction with a surrounding sensorial experience.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, Threw adds, after decades of viewing decontextualized art objects in bland gallery and museum settings, audiences have a hunger for multi-sensory, interactive works. The popularity of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13861247/the-90s-experience-instagram\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram-ready “museums”\u003c/a> like the Color Factory already has indicated this, but using tools like the Hexadome, VR and AR, artists have begun to explore more nuanced and less commercial forms of multi-sensory storytelling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s clear people realize the power of these immersive experiences,” says Threw. “The question is: how do you use them for more artistic and impactful content?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-800x78.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Gray Area Festival takes place July 25–28 at Gray Area and Pier 70. Details \u003ca href=\"https://grayareafestival.io\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here\u003c/a>. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Gray Area Festival features new audiovisual works by Thom Yorke, Holly Herndon and more. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705022519,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":16,"wordCount":829},"headData":{"title":"Robot Performance and Augmented Reality? Gray Area Fest Explores Art's New Frontiers | KQED","description":"The Gray Area Festival features new audiovisual works by Thom Yorke, Holly Herndon and more. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Robot Performance and Augmented Reality? 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That’s what the \u003ca href=\"https://grayareafestival.io\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gray Area Festival\u003c/a>, running July 25–28 at the Gray Area Theater and Pier 70, seeks to explore with a weekend of workshops, performances and installations from artists eager to embrace the latest technological tools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The festival’s biggest attraction is the U.S. premiere of the \u003ca href=\"https://grayareafestival.io/exhibition/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ISM Hexadome\u003c/a>, an installation by the Institute of Sound and Music in Berlin. Presented at Pier 70, it’s comprised of six 20-foot-tall screens and can fit about 200 people. Essentially, it’s a 360-degree theater for showing audiovisual works by a wide variety of artists, including Radiohead’s Thom Yorke, whose beat-driven, sci-fi new album \u003cem>Anima\u003c/em> explores the concept of a techno-dystopia. 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Cult singer-producer Holly Herndon, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13857405/holly-herndons-remarkable-ai-assisted-new-music\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recently released an album partially composed by artificial intelligence\u003c/a>, worked with digital artist Mathew Dryhurst, her frequent collaborator and husband. Local techno luminary Lara Sarkissian (also known as DJ Foozool of Club Chai) teamed up with Berlin’s Jemma Woolmore, whose dimly lit geometric abstractions complement Sarkissian’s percussive beats that sample traditional Armenian folk instruments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a new, immersive format for how cinema and audiovisual collaborations can be experienced,” says Gray Area Festival curator Barry Threw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the artists whose work is featured in the Hexadome, Suzanne Ciani, a pioneer of early synth-based experimental music, is slated to perform live inside of the installation on July 26, accompanied by visuals by AudeRrose. (After Gray Area Festival ends, the ISM Hexadome will be on view at Pier 70 through Aug. 3.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The other major performance at the Gray Area Festival is Louis-Philippe Demers and Bill Vorn’s \u003cem>Inferno\u003c/em>, where audience members don “robot exoskeletons”—bulky mechanical suits that physically force their wearers to dance in time with the dark, industrial techno soundtrack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Everybody’s being controlled together by these robots, and there’s one special performer who is the person who leads the rest of the group in this movement along with the composition that they’ve made,” explains Threw. “I think it has a lot to say about our current condition in San Francisco right now: it’s a metaphor for this way technology and humanity are trying to wrestle with one another, and what does it mean to give a lot of your control over to a technology environment.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/JaUAVo8PBJ4'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/JaUAVo8PBJ4'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>In addition to performances, festival-goers can attend talks and workshops about augmented reality, holograms and immersive storytelling. Threw says despite the novelty of these technological tools, the idea at the heart of the festival is that experiencing art in interactive environments is not new. In fact, it predates looking at art objects inside of four white walls by thousands of years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s definitely a trend in people wanting to have experiences in environments instead of objects. Really when you get down to it, this trend is more of a return,” says Threw. “Even from the dawn of when people started making art, you look at the caves of Chauvet and Lascaux—there was a whole site specific nature of how art was created. You have the cave paintings made in an environment of flickering fire, and there was a sound environment and a nonlinear cave surface. The art was made in conjunction with a surrounding sensorial experience.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, Threw adds, after decades of viewing decontextualized art objects in bland gallery and museum settings, audiences have a hunger for multi-sensory, interactive works. The popularity of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13861247/the-90s-experience-instagram\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram-ready “museums”\u003c/a> like the Color Factory already has indicated this, but using tools like the Hexadome, VR and AR, artists have begun to explore more nuanced and less commercial forms of multi-sensory storytelling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s clear people realize the power of these immersive experiences,” says Threw. “The question is: how do you use them for more artistic and impactful content?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-800x78.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Gray Area Festival takes place July 25–28 at Gray Area and Pier 70. Details \u003ca href=\"https://grayareafestival.io\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here\u003c/a>. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13861697/robot-performance-and-augmented-reality-gray-area-fest-explores-arts-new-frontiers","authors":["11387"],"programs":["arts_140"],"categories":["arts_71","arts_69","arts_70"],"tags":["arts_3634","arts_1118","arts_1935"],"featImg":"arts_13861719","label":"arts_140"},"arts_13857405":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13857405","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13857405","score":null,"sort":[1558023988000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"holly-herndons-remarkable-ai-assisted-new-music","title":"Holly Herndon's Remarkable, AI-Assisted New Music","publishDate":1558023988,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Holly Herndon’s Remarkable, AI-Assisted New Music | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":140,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>By now, we’re used to certain artificial intelligence applications in our music-listening routine. We can hold up our phones when an unknown song is playing to learn its name, and we receive algorithm-based recommendations from streaming services for new songs based on our listening habits. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Letting the machines take over our music \u003cem>composition\u003c/em> has always been dicier. There is a distinct human element to music that most people cherish; ceding the moment of creation to a computer would render it cold and hollow, according to conventional thought. That’s part of what’s exhilarating about Holly Herndon’s new AI-assisted album, \u003cem>PROTO\u003c/em>: once again, Herndon has proved conventional thinking wrong.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the past two years, Herndon has \u003ca href=\"https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/05/20/electronic-pop-for-the-surveillance-era\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">built, taught, and refined\u003c/a> an artificial neural network housed inside a gaming PC nicknamed “Spawn.” The AI has learned enough from Herndon’s own voice and music to recreate a version of it by itself, and on \u003cem>PROTO\u003c/em>, its generative sounds and Herndon’s input are combined with a large folk vocal ensemble. The result is a thrilling, very human album, combining new strange mutations with choir pieces that sound centuries old. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Having recently completed her Ph.D. at Stanford’s Center For Computer Research In Music And Acoustics, Herndon is now taking \u003cem>PROTO\u003c/em>, and Spawn, on the road. How the AI will \u003ca href=\"https://themuse.jezebel.com/a-chat-with-holly-herndon-about-making-music-with-ai-a-1834562691\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">perform in real time\u003c/a> remains to be seen. But make no mistake: this isn’t music strictly for the shifty, awkward, coding art-gallery crowd. For a rare upcoming show in San Francisco, when the beat to “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4sROgbaeOs\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Eternal\u003c/a>” drops, expect to see a wave of dancing as the humans claim their space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Holly Herndon performs Monday, May 20, at August Hall in San Francisco. Foozool and 8uentina from Club Chai open the show. \u003ca href=\"https://www.augusthallsf.com/event/9263065/holly-herndon-foozool-8ulentina/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Details here\u003c/a>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"For her upcoming show in San Francisco, Herndon brings an artificial neural network she's trained for the past two years.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705026202,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":7,"wordCount":314},"headData":{"title":"Holly Herndon's Remarkable, AI-Assisted New Music | KQED","description":"For her upcoming show in San Francisco, Herndon brings an artificial neural network she's trained for the past two years.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Holly Herndon's Remarkable, AI-Assisted New Music","datePublished":"2019-05-16T16:26:28.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-12T02:23:22.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"path":"/arts/13857405/holly-herndons-remarkable-ai-assisted-new-music","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>By now, we’re used to certain artificial intelligence applications in our music-listening routine. We can hold up our phones when an unknown song is playing to learn its name, and we receive algorithm-based recommendations from streaming services for new songs based on our listening habits. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Letting the machines take over our music \u003cem>composition\u003c/em> has always been dicier. There is a distinct human element to music that most people cherish; ceding the moment of creation to a computer would render it cold and hollow, according to conventional thought. That’s part of what’s exhilarating about Holly Herndon’s new AI-assisted album, \u003cem>PROTO\u003c/em>: once again, Herndon has proved conventional thinking wrong.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the past two years, Herndon has \u003ca href=\"https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/05/20/electronic-pop-for-the-surveillance-era\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">built, taught, and refined\u003c/a> an artificial neural network housed inside a gaming PC nicknamed “Spawn.” The AI has learned enough from Herndon’s own voice and music to recreate a version of it by itself, and on \u003cem>PROTO\u003c/em>, its generative sounds and Herndon’s input are combined with a large folk vocal ensemble. The result is a thrilling, very human album, combining new strange mutations with choir pieces that sound centuries old. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Having recently completed her Ph.D. at Stanford’s Center For Computer Research In Music And Acoustics, Herndon is now taking \u003cem>PROTO\u003c/em>, and Spawn, on the road. How the AI will \u003ca href=\"https://themuse.jezebel.com/a-chat-with-holly-herndon-about-making-music-with-ai-a-1834562691\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">perform in real time\u003c/a> remains to be seen. But make no mistake: this isn’t music strictly for the shifty, awkward, coding art-gallery crowd. For a rare upcoming show in San Francisco, when the beat to “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4sROgbaeOs\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Eternal\u003c/a>” drops, expect to see a wave of dancing as the humans claim their space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Holly Herndon performs Monday, May 20, at August Hall in San Francisco. 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