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After getting a job on the front desk at fitness center \u003ca href=\"https://sfpoleanddance.com/\">San Francisco Pole and Dance\u003c/a> a year ago, Ortiz, a PhD. student, fell in love with pole dancing. \"It was during a rough time in my life and I saw the effects pole dancing had on women and men of all backgrounds,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ortiz estimates that everyone who tries a class leaves with much more respect for those who dance professionally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It is probably some of the hardest work ever,\" she says, \"and the best teachers are always current or former strippers. Everyone here is funny, kind and encouraging. I do think that the stigma is reducing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-kllxaNAI\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still others have mixed feelings about pole dancing going mainstream. Alexis Brooks danced in strip clubs for 13 years, stopping only after the combination of sky-high heels and a slippery tile floor at work caused her to break an ankle. She says that pole dancing on a sporting stage can give people unrealistic expectations: \"People have to realize that nine times out of ten, they aren't going to see that level of pole dancing at the club. We don't have trainers and hours to perfect our moves.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brooks is happy, however, to see more variety in popular depictions of pole dancing. \"Traditionally, we're seen as either super glamorous and raking in the dough, or at rock bottom,\" she says. \"The reality is somewhere in between.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cardi B's NSFW \"Money\" video, then, might be the closest that mainstream culture has come to accurate commentary on the lives of pole dancers. In it, she honors her own past working in strip clubs—a job she says \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzfcNl-o9bI\">saved her\u003c/a> from a \"boyfriend who was beating my ass\"—presenting it as serious work with major financial benefits. \"People want me to be so full of shame that I used to dance,\" Cardi \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/dec/01/how-cardi-b-went-from-stripper-to-star\">told \u003cem>The Guardian\u003c/em>\u003c/a> in 2017. \"I learned a lot. I would never be ashamed of it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUOh09GoQgk\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indeed, the shift in the public perception of pole dancing has been most visible in music videos. While early on, artists like like Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg used pole dancing as a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZXc39hT8t4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">means for objectification\u003c/a>, within a decade it was socially acceptable enough for the decidedly non-edgy Enrique Iglesias to include in his video for \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHJAUuicC0Q\">Dirty Dancer\u003c/a>.\" In 2013, Bruno Mars put pole dancing at the center of a love triangle in the \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHDtXqjgEj4\">Gorilla\u003c/a>\" video, and, a year later, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk1ZO_980DI\">Ne-Yo\u003c/a> put dancers in mundane, everyday settings as a suggestion that it was something even middle-aged housewives and mousey librarians could enjoy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then came Rihanna and Beyoncé including poles in their respective videos for \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehcVomMexkY\">Pour It Up\u003c/a>\" and \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ12_E5R3qc\">Partition\u003c/a>,\" and ideas shifted about just who pole dancing was for. Their reframing of pole dancing, from entertainment for men to empowerment for women, not only opened doors for Cardi B but others—FKA Twigs recently used it to literally elevate her contemporary artistry to new, trippy heights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkLjqFpBh84&t=111s\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reality TV, too, has done a lot to normalize pole dancing. HBO's \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_String_Divas\">\u003cem>G String Divas\u003c/em>\u003c/a> started to de-stigmatize the job back in 2000, and today, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD-VzLfHZXQ\">\u003cem>Beyond The Pole\u003c/em>\u003c/a> shows the every day lives of professional dancers in Atlanta.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it's \u003cem>Keeping Up With The Kardashians \u003c/em>that did the most to take pole dancing mainstream. When 2007's Season 1 first showed a pole in Kris and Bruce's bedroom, it seemed risqué and over-the-top. When then-tweens Kendall and Kylie played on it—prompting Robin Antin to tell Kylie she was a \"future Pussycat Doll\"—it simultaneously caused a mountain of controversy and somehow made a pole at home seem somewhat mundane. By 2014, Kris, Kim and their friends were taking a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gqb7ECJnoA\">pole dancing class\u003c/a> on the show together—a relatively new form of exercise that has since boomed in popularity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pinnacle of pole dancing's mainstream acceptance arrives September 13 with the movie \u003cem>Hustlers\u003c/em>, starring Jennifer Lopez, Constance Wu and Cardi B as a group of strip club employees banding together to \"turn the tables on their Wall Street clients.\" The movie, based on a \u003ca href=\"https://www.thecut.com/2015/12/robin-hood-strippers-scores-c-v-r.html#_ga=2.96829916.2122431926.1556836402-1366781981.1518059390\">\u003cem>New York Magazine\u003c/em> article\u003c/a> about real-life dancers who swindled their richest clients out of thousands of dollars, is something that Nicki, the dancer from San Francisco, looks forward to seeing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Pole dancing really is an art form when it's done well,\" she says. \"It is getting easier to see that dancing isn't just some seedy, taboo thing, as more women in the spotlight are embracing it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She pauses, thinks about her request for anonymity, and adds: \"When we get to the point where I can use my real name in an article like this, \u003cem>that\u003c/em> will really be something.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Before pole dancing hits the big screen in 'Hustlers,' we ask professionals and amateurs alike their views on the strip club staple going mainstream.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1563384081,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":20,"wordCount":1070},"headData":{"title":"Before 'Hustlers': How Pole Dancing Broke Into the Mainstream | KQED","description":"Before pole dancing hits the big screen in 'Hustlers,' we ask professionals and amateurs alike their views on the strip club staple going mainstream.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Before 'Hustlers': How Pole Dancing Broke Into the Mainstream","datePublished":"2019-07-17T17:00:49.000Z","dateModified":"2019-07-17T17:21:21.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"111463 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=111463","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/07/17/before-hustlers-how-pole-dancing-broke-into-the-mainstream/","disqusTitle":"Before 'Hustlers': How Pole Dancing Broke Into the Mainstream","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","path":"/pop/111463/before-hustlers-how-pole-dancing-broke-into-the-mainstream","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In \u003cem>Crazy Stupid Love\u003c/em>, Ryan Gosling, playing a know-it-all lothario, shares an opinion. \"We won the sex war,\" he says, \"after women started doing pole dancing for exercise.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finding pop-culture examples of pole dancing being stigmatized is not a struggle. Comedians like \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqg8-qCXKz8\">Chris Rock\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt_s0qeRdkw\">Joe Rogan\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://titsandsass.com/category/tina-fey-hates-sex-workers/\">Tina Fey\u003c/a> have indulged in various degrees of stripper shaming, and stereotypes about the rough and ready lives of dancers have long been a staple of cop shows and movies like \u003cem>I Know Who Killed Me\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Powder Blue\u003c/em> and \u003cem>The Wrestler\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Traditionally, portrayals of dancers are either women who are drug-addicted, or who obviously have major daddy issues,\" Nicki [not her real name] a San Francisco dancer, says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the gulf between representations of pole dancers and reality has narrowed in recent years, thanks in part to the 2008 founding of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.polesports.org/\">International Pole Sports Federation\u003c/a>—an organization set up to standardize rules around competitive pole dancing, and lobby to include pole sports in the Olympics. Its existence has allowed pole dancing the relatively new luxury of being seen as a legitimate skill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That skill is something that Nicki knows firsthand. \"The women I've had the pleasure of working with over the years are all incredible,\" she says. \"This job can make you feel invincible.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amanda Ortiz echoes the sentiment. After getting a job on the front desk at fitness center \u003ca href=\"https://sfpoleanddance.com/\">San Francisco Pole and Dance\u003c/a> a year ago, Ortiz, a PhD. student, fell in love with pole dancing. \"It was during a rough time in my life and I saw the effects pole dancing had on women and men of all backgrounds,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ortiz estimates that everyone who tries a class leaves with much more respect for those who dance professionally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It is probably some of the hardest work ever,\" she says, \"and the best teachers are always current or former strippers. Everyone here is funny, kind and encouraging. I do think that the stigma is reducing.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/lw-kllxaNAI'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/lw-kllxaNAI'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Still others have mixed feelings about pole dancing going mainstream. Alexis Brooks danced in strip clubs for 13 years, stopping only after the combination of sky-high heels and a slippery tile floor at work caused her to break an ankle. She says that pole dancing on a sporting stage can give people unrealistic expectations: \"People have to realize that nine times out of ten, they aren't going to see that level of pole dancing at the club. We don't have trainers and hours to perfect our moves.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brooks is happy, however, to see more variety in popular depictions of pole dancing. \"Traditionally, we're seen as either super glamorous and raking in the dough, or at rock bottom,\" she says. \"The reality is somewhere in between.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cardi B's NSFW \"Money\" video, then, might be the closest that mainstream culture has come to accurate commentary on the lives of pole dancers. In it, she honors her own past working in strip clubs—a job she says \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzfcNl-o9bI\">saved her\u003c/a> from a \"boyfriend who was beating my ass\"—presenting it as serious work with major financial benefits. \"People want me to be so full of shame that I used to dance,\" Cardi \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/dec/01/how-cardi-b-went-from-stripper-to-star\">told \u003cem>The Guardian\u003c/em>\u003c/a> in 2017. \"I learned a lot. I would never be ashamed of it.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/zUOh09GoQgk'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/zUOh09GoQgk'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Indeed, the shift in the public perception of pole dancing has been most visible in music videos. While early on, artists like like Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg used pole dancing as a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZXc39hT8t4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">means for objectification\u003c/a>, within a decade it was socially acceptable enough for the decidedly non-edgy Enrique Iglesias to include in his video for \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHJAUuicC0Q\">Dirty Dancer\u003c/a>.\" In 2013, Bruno Mars put pole dancing at the center of a love triangle in the \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHDtXqjgEj4\">Gorilla\u003c/a>\" video, and, a year later, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk1ZO_980DI\">Ne-Yo\u003c/a> put dancers in mundane, everyday settings as a suggestion that it was something even middle-aged housewives and mousey librarians could enjoy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then came Rihanna and Beyoncé including poles in their respective videos for \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehcVomMexkY\">Pour It Up\u003c/a>\" and \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ12_E5R3qc\">Partition\u003c/a>,\" and ideas shifted about just who pole dancing was for. Their reframing of pole dancing, from entertainment for men to empowerment for women, not only opened doors for Cardi B but others—FKA Twigs recently used it to literally elevate her contemporary artistry to new, trippy heights.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/YkLjqFpBh84'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/YkLjqFpBh84'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Reality TV, too, has done a lot to normalize pole dancing. HBO's \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_String_Divas\">\u003cem>G String Divas\u003c/em>\u003c/a> started to de-stigmatize the job back in 2000, and today, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD-VzLfHZXQ\">\u003cem>Beyond The Pole\u003c/em>\u003c/a> shows the every day lives of professional dancers in Atlanta.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it's \u003cem>Keeping Up With The Kardashians \u003c/em>that did the most to take pole dancing mainstream. When 2007's Season 1 first showed a pole in Kris and Bruce's bedroom, it seemed risqué and over-the-top. When then-tweens Kendall and Kylie played on it—prompting Robin Antin to tell Kylie she was a \"future Pussycat Doll\"—it simultaneously caused a mountain of controversy and somehow made a pole at home seem somewhat mundane. By 2014, Kris, Kim and their friends were taking a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gqb7ECJnoA\">pole dancing class\u003c/a> on the show together—a relatively new form of exercise that has since boomed in popularity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pinnacle of pole dancing's mainstream acceptance arrives September 13 with the movie \u003cem>Hustlers\u003c/em>, starring Jennifer Lopez, Constance Wu and Cardi B as a group of strip club employees banding together to \"turn the tables on their Wall Street clients.\" The movie, based on a \u003ca href=\"https://www.thecut.com/2015/12/robin-hood-strippers-scores-c-v-r.html#_ga=2.96829916.2122431926.1556836402-1366781981.1518059390\">\u003cem>New York Magazine\u003c/em> article\u003c/a> about real-life dancers who swindled their richest clients out of thousands of dollars, is something that Nicki, the dancer from San Francisco, looks forward to seeing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Pole dancing really is an art form when it's done well,\" she says. \"It is getting easier to see that dancing isn't just some seedy, taboo thing, as more women in the spotlight are embracing it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She pauses, thinks about her request for anonymity, and adds: \"When we get to the point where I can use my real name in an article like this, \u003cem>that\u003c/em> will really be something.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/111463/before-hustlers-how-pole-dancing-broke-into-the-mainstream","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_51","pop_4"],"tags":["pop_465","pop_3121","pop_3071","pop_3602","pop_3603","pop_3341","pop_3601","pop_213","pop_3649","pop_3650","pop_2822","pop_466"],"featImg":"pop_112783","label":"pop"},"pop_104409":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_104409","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"104409","score":null,"sort":[1531940766000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"how-justin-bieber-and-chris-pratts-favorite-church-is-taking-over-the-world","title":"How Chris Pratt and Justin Bieber’s Favorite Church is Taking Over the World","publishDate":1531940766,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>As the world adjusts to the news that America's favorite reformed rebel, Justin Bieber, is now engaged to model Hailey Baldwin, questions abound about how in God's name this all happened so quickly. Maybe when you're with the right person, you just know really quickly. Maybe that whole super-fast \u003ca href=\"https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a20979533/ariana-grande-and-pete-davidson-a-timeline-of-their-relationship/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ariana Grande/ Pete Davidson thing\u003c/a> proved infectious. Or maybe God actually did have a direct influence, via the medium of \u003ca href=\"https://hillsong.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Hillsong Church.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's exactly one year since Bieber memorably abandoned his 2017 tour two weeks early because, \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/25/justin-bieber-canceled-tour-dedicated-religion-hillsong-church/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">according to TMZ,\u003c/a> he was \"rededicat[ing] his life to Christ.\" Around that time, he appeared in multiple photos \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/93845/bored-sick-gay-god-why-did-justin-bieber-cancel-his-tour\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cozying up to Carl Lentz\u003c/a>, a Hillsong pastor, and Judah Smith, a pastor from City Church. Bieber has since covered almost his entire \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/96910/lets-investigate-what-the-hell-justin-biebers-new-massive-tattoo-is\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">torso with religious tattoos\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/p/BW5lCstjEr7/?utm_source=ig_embed\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While a clip of \u003ca href=\"https://people.com/music/justin-bieber-hailey-baldwin-meet-first-time-2009-video/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Baldwin and Bieber meeting briefly\u003c/a> for the very first time in 2009 recently emerged, there can be little doubt that their mutual faith had a major role in bringing them together. Baldwin—whose father \u003ca href=\"http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/10/18/stephen-baldwin-says-faith-cost-him-roles-compares-him-and-alec-to-cain-and.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stephen is a born-again Christian\u003c/a>—is, like her fiancé, tight with both Hillsong and City Church. In April, the 21-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/hailey-baldwin-hillsong-church-new-tattoos.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">told \u003cem>The Cut\u003c/em>\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"[Hillsong] is intense and it’s loud and it’s in your face ... But I know the people that run it really well, they’ve become like my family ... City Church is Judah Smith, who is amazing ... Carl [Lentz] is Hillsong and they’re best friends, so everybody is kind of interconnected ... So I just kind of know all of them.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>If you look at the wording of their engagement announcements, Baldwin and Bieber's mutual faith in God is transparent. In his, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BlBvw2_jBKp/?hl=en&taken-by=justinbieber\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bieber said\u003c/a>: \"I promise to lead our family with honor and integrity letting Jesus through his Holy Spirit guide us in everything we do and every decision we make … Gods timing really is literally perfect.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/haileybaldwin/status/1016452160459067393\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Baldwin tweeted\u003c/a>: \"Not sure what I did in life to deserve such happiness but I am so utterly grateful to God for giving me such an incredible person to share my life with!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some reports suggest that Bieber and Baldwin (Jailey? Baldber?) will be taking a five-week \u003ca href=\"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5939715/Justin-Bieber-Hailey-Baldwin-Hillsong-pre-marriage-course.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"pre-marriage course\u003c/a> run by [Hillsong] on conflict resolution, managing their finances, being intimate” and “effective communication.” \u003ca href=\"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5939715/Justin-Bieber-Hailey-Baldwin-Hillsong-pre-marriage-course.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>The Daily Mail\u003c/em> has claimed\u003c/a> a source told the paper that: \"The marriage course is something which is encouraged and in some cases demanded by Hillsong pastors before they will marry you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the last few years, Hillsong has gotten a reputation as the religious organization of choice for today's biggest celebrities. Attendance from the likes of Chris Pratt, Selena Gomez (who \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BDWlpPeujBe/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">led worship\u003c/a> there in 2016), Nick Jonas, Vanessa Hudgens (who has described the church as \"epic\"), Kourtney Kardashian, as well as Kendall and Kylie Jenner, has given the church some great PR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Bieber, Chris Pratt has become far more vocal about his faith since joining the congregation and is now \u003ca href=\"https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2018/06/29/chris-pratt-smitten-with-girlfriend-katherine-schwarzenegger-report/23471330/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">dating fellow church attendee, Katherine Schwarzenegger\u003c/a>. Pratt started attending Hillsong last year and used his acceptance speech, while picking up the Generation Award at June's MTV Awards, to pass on some serious spiritual advice. Pratt intermingled poop jokes and tips for medicating dogs with stern commands including: “You have a soul. Be careful with it”; “God is real. God loves you. God wants the best for you. Believe that”; and “Learn to pray.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EihqXHqxri0\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because of its very visible celebrity contingent, there is an impression that Hillsong is a Hollywood thing. But the church started life in Australia and has since spread to Argentina, Denmark, France, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Israel, Russia, Bali, the Netherlands, Norway, South Africa, the UK, Portugal, and Sweden -- most of which each have multiple locations. There are also \"Gathering Locations\" in New York, Seattle, Boston, Arizona, and, yes, \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/hillsongsf/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">San Francisco.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every Hillsong website (there are many) greets the viewer in the same way—\"WELCOME HOME\"—and strives to cater to multiple demographics. It holds child-only \"Kidsong\" services. There are women-only \"Sisterhood\" events. And, since 2012, there has been a youth wing called \"Young & Free.\" The South Africa chapter promises to help you \"Find Your Group.\" And the London, Australia, and Africa chapters conduct \u003ca href=\"https://hillsong.com/media/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a variety of community outreach programs\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_104452\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 741px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-104452 size-full\" style=\"font-weight: bold;background-color: transparent;color: #767676\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"741\" height=\"398\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM.png 741w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM-160x86.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM-240x129.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM-375x201.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM-520x279.png 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 741px) 100vw, 741px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A screenshot from Hillsong.com's homepage.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Exploring Hillsong for the first time is a dizzying experience. The church seems to understand the importance of aesthetics and glamour to spread its message, but is self-consciously attempting to also appear down-to-Earth and relatable. Its aim—in addition to \"being the hands, feet, and voice of Jesus\"—is to make church cool again. It pursues that goal via, not just celebrities, but also social media and music marketing. At the time of writing, there are now 46 Hillsong albums, across a number of genres, specifically designed to suit all ages and tastes. The Young & Free contingent, for example, tends to lean in this direction:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2d3xIvSMg\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The social media marketing to support these albums (Hillsong has 1.1 million Instagram followers and 4.4 million Facebook \"likes\") frequently depicts groups of young beautiful people in beanies and overalls having \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BkmWzY-g9Kg/?hl=en&taken-by=hillsongyoungandfree\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">good clean fun\u003c/a>. It's hard to look away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you put all of the above together into a service, it ends up looking like this:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0kmvXlDBYI\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hillsong's commitment to this kind of high profile means that church policies have come under extra scrutiny. One former attendee, \u003ca href=\"https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ben-fenlon/christianity-hillsong-chu_b_8192976.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ben Fenlon, wrote an article\u003c/a> about his experience as a gay man in the church, back in September 2015, for the \u003cem>Huffington Post\u003c/em>. In it, he stated:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"I have always been told that there is no judgement within church, but if I wanted to be a leader I would be judged and turned away ... I can't worship at a church knowing that I am … surrounded by people that might love me as a person but do not accept me as being gay … People who might tell me that being gay is okay, but on the inside are praying for me to let Jesus move in my life and change me. People who don't recognize that any relationship that I have with a man is part of God's plan and that it would be full of love, equal to any other.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>To make matters worse, church founder, Brian Houston, has also suggested that his own father (a non-Hillsong pastor) \u003ca href=\"https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/hillsongs-brian-houston-my-father-the-child-sex-criminal/news-story/1152a3c988e76759170b908706ea7c02\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"committed pedophilia\"\u003c/a> because \u003ca href=\"https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/bjjvk8/i-joined-the-london-branch-of-justin-biebers-church\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"I think my father was homosexual,\u003c/a> a closet homosexual… I think whatever frustrations he had, he took out on children.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Vice\u003c/em> has also reported that Hillsong pastor Jentezen Franklin, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=251&v=EQ18exdhR6I\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visited with Donald Trump\u003c/a> and prayed for his candidacy because of Trump’s stance on “pro-life judges, pro-religious liberty judges.\" Questions have also been raised about the church's finances. \u003ca href=\"https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/inside-the-hillsong-churchs-moneymaking-machine-20151026-gkip53.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>The Sydney Morning Herald\u003c/em>\u003c/a> reports that Hillsong \"pulled in tax-free revenues of nearly $80 million in Australia [in 2014] and more than $100 million internationally.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Regardless of all that, Hillsong's pull remains strong for young celebrities like Bieber and Baldwin, and its practices are obviously appealing for thousands of people around the world. From a cynical standpoint, Hillsong's current popularity could be viewed as just another in a long line of spiritual movements that have garnered celeb followings before—the Kabbalah craze of the early 2000s, Richard Gere's friendship with the Dalai Lama, Scientology (pre-Leah Remini's \u003ca href=\"https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath\">\u003cem>Aftermath\u003c/em>\u003c/a>), among others. We have seen this kind of thing before. But it's difficult not to take notice when famous people seem to have found answers to life's biggest questions. If Bieber and Baldwin get married at Hillsong, as is expected, the church's popularity is bound to grow even further—at least for a little while.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"So what's up with Hillsong Church anyway?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1651014103,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":1373},"headData":{"title":"How Chris Pratt and Justin Bieber’s Favorite Church is Taking Over the World - KQED Pop","description":"So what's up with Hillsong Church anyway?","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"How Chris Pratt and Justin Bieber’s Favorite Church is Taking Over the World","datePublished":"2018-07-18T19:06:06.000Z","dateModified":"2022-04-26T23:01:43.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"104409 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=104409","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2018/07/18/how-justin-bieber-and-chris-pratts-favorite-church-is-taking-over-the-world/","disqusTitle":"How Chris Pratt and Justin Bieber’s Favorite Church is Taking Over the World","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/pop/104409/how-justin-bieber-and-chris-pratts-favorite-church-is-taking-over-the-world","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>As the world adjusts to the news that America's favorite reformed rebel, Justin Bieber, is now engaged to model Hailey Baldwin, questions abound about how in God's name this all happened so quickly. Maybe when you're with the right person, you just know really quickly. Maybe that whole super-fast \u003ca href=\"https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a20979533/ariana-grande-and-pete-davidson-a-timeline-of-their-relationship/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ariana Grande/ Pete Davidson thing\u003c/a> proved infectious. Or maybe God actually did have a direct influence, via the medium of \u003ca href=\"https://hillsong.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Hillsong Church.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's exactly one year since Bieber memorably abandoned his 2017 tour two weeks early because, \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/25/justin-bieber-canceled-tour-dedicated-religion-hillsong-church/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">according to TMZ,\u003c/a> he was \"rededicat[ing] his life to Christ.\" Around that time, he appeared in multiple photos \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/93845/bored-sick-gay-god-why-did-justin-bieber-cancel-his-tour\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cozying up to Carl Lentz\u003c/a>, a Hillsong pastor, and Judah Smith, a pastor from City Church. Bieber has since covered almost his entire \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/96910/lets-investigate-what-the-hell-justin-biebers-new-massive-tattoo-is\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">torso with religious tattoos\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramId":"BW5lCstjEr7"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>While a clip of \u003ca href=\"https://people.com/music/justin-bieber-hailey-baldwin-meet-first-time-2009-video/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Baldwin and Bieber meeting briefly\u003c/a> for the very first time in 2009 recently emerged, there can be little doubt that their mutual faith had a major role in bringing them together. Baldwin—whose father \u003ca href=\"http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/10/18/stephen-baldwin-says-faith-cost-him-roles-compares-him-and-alec-to-cain-and.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stephen is a born-again Christian\u003c/a>—is, like her fiancé, tight with both Hillsong and City Church. In April, the 21-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/hailey-baldwin-hillsong-church-new-tattoos.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">told \u003cem>The Cut\u003c/em>\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"[Hillsong] is intense and it’s loud and it’s in your face ... But I know the people that run it really well, they’ve become like my family ... City Church is Judah Smith, who is amazing ... Carl [Lentz] is Hillsong and they’re best friends, so everybody is kind of interconnected ... So I just kind of know all of them.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>If you look at the wording of their engagement announcements, Baldwin and Bieber's mutual faith in God is transparent. In his, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BlBvw2_jBKp/?hl=en&taken-by=justinbieber\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bieber said\u003c/a>: \"I promise to lead our family with honor and integrity letting Jesus through his Holy Spirit guide us in everything we do and every decision we make … Gods timing really is literally perfect.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/haileybaldwin/status/1016452160459067393\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Baldwin tweeted\u003c/a>: \"Not sure what I did in life to deserve such happiness but I am so utterly grateful to God for giving me such an incredible person to share my life with!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some reports suggest that Bieber and Baldwin (Jailey? Baldber?) will be taking a five-week \u003ca href=\"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5939715/Justin-Bieber-Hailey-Baldwin-Hillsong-pre-marriage-course.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"pre-marriage course\u003c/a> run by [Hillsong] on conflict resolution, managing their finances, being intimate” and “effective communication.” \u003ca href=\"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5939715/Justin-Bieber-Hailey-Baldwin-Hillsong-pre-marriage-course.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>The Daily Mail\u003c/em> has claimed\u003c/a> a source told the paper that: \"The marriage course is something which is encouraged and in some cases demanded by Hillsong pastors before they will marry you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the last few years, Hillsong has gotten a reputation as the religious organization of choice for today's biggest celebrities. Attendance from the likes of Chris Pratt, Selena Gomez (who \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BDWlpPeujBe/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">led worship\u003c/a> there in 2016), Nick Jonas, Vanessa Hudgens (who has described the church as \"epic\"), Kourtney Kardashian, as well as Kendall and Kylie Jenner, has given the church some great PR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Bieber, Chris Pratt has become far more vocal about his faith since joining the congregation and is now \u003ca href=\"https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2018/06/29/chris-pratt-smitten-with-girlfriend-katherine-schwarzenegger-report/23471330/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">dating fellow church attendee, Katherine Schwarzenegger\u003c/a>. Pratt started attending Hillsong last year and used his acceptance speech, while picking up the Generation Award at June's MTV Awards, to pass on some serious spiritual advice. Pratt intermingled poop jokes and tips for medicating dogs with stern commands including: “You have a soul. Be careful with it”; “God is real. God loves you. God wants the best for you. Believe that”; and “Learn to pray.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/EihqXHqxri0'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/EihqXHqxri0'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Because of its very visible celebrity contingent, there is an impression that Hillsong is a Hollywood thing. But the church started life in Australia and has since spread to Argentina, Denmark, France, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Israel, Russia, Bali, the Netherlands, Norway, South Africa, the UK, Portugal, and Sweden -- most of which each have multiple locations. There are also \"Gathering Locations\" in New York, Seattle, Boston, Arizona, and, yes, \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/hillsongsf/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">San Francisco.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every Hillsong website (there are many) greets the viewer in the same way—\"WELCOME HOME\"—and strives to cater to multiple demographics. It holds child-only \"Kidsong\" services. There are women-only \"Sisterhood\" events. And, since 2012, there has been a youth wing called \"Young & Free.\" The South Africa chapter promises to help you \"Find Your Group.\" And the London, Australia, and Africa chapters conduct \u003ca href=\"https://hillsong.com/media/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a variety of community outreach programs\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_104452\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 741px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-104452 size-full\" style=\"font-weight: bold;background-color: transparent;color: #767676\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"741\" height=\"398\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM.png 741w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM-160x86.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM-240x129.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM-375x201.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-01-at-11.28.42-PM-520x279.png 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 741px) 100vw, 741px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A screenshot from Hillsong.com's homepage.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Exploring Hillsong for the first time is a dizzying experience. The church seems to understand the importance of aesthetics and glamour to spread its message, but is self-consciously attempting to also appear down-to-Earth and relatable. Its aim—in addition to \"being the hands, feet, and voice of Jesus\"—is to make church cool again. It pursues that goal via, not just celebrities, but also social media and music marketing. At the time of writing, there are now 46 Hillsong albums, across a number of genres, specifically designed to suit all ages and tastes. The Young & Free contingent, for example, tends to lean in this direction:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/8k2d3xIvSMg'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/8k2d3xIvSMg'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>The social media marketing to support these albums (Hillsong has 1.1 million Instagram followers and 4.4 million Facebook \"likes\") frequently depicts groups of young beautiful people in beanies and overalls having \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BkmWzY-g9Kg/?hl=en&taken-by=hillsongyoungandfree\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">good clean fun\u003c/a>. It's hard to look away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you put all of the above together into a service, it ends up looking like this:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/t0kmvXlDBYI'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/t0kmvXlDBYI'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Hillsong's commitment to this kind of high profile means that church policies have come under extra scrutiny. One former attendee, \u003ca href=\"https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ben-fenlon/christianity-hillsong-chu_b_8192976.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ben Fenlon, wrote an article\u003c/a> about his experience as a gay man in the church, back in September 2015, for the \u003cem>Huffington Post\u003c/em>. In it, he stated:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"I have always been told that there is no judgement within church, but if I wanted to be a leader I would be judged and turned away ... I can't worship at a church knowing that I am … surrounded by people that might love me as a person but do not accept me as being gay … People who might tell me that being gay is okay, but on the inside are praying for me to let Jesus move in my life and change me. People who don't recognize that any relationship that I have with a man is part of God's plan and that it would be full of love, equal to any other.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>To make matters worse, church founder, Brian Houston, has also suggested that his own father (a non-Hillsong pastor) \u003ca href=\"https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/hillsongs-brian-houston-my-father-the-child-sex-criminal/news-story/1152a3c988e76759170b908706ea7c02\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"committed pedophilia\"\u003c/a> because \u003ca href=\"https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/bjjvk8/i-joined-the-london-branch-of-justin-biebers-church\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"I think my father was homosexual,\u003c/a> a closet homosexual… I think whatever frustrations he had, he took out on children.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Vice\u003c/em> has also reported that Hillsong pastor Jentezen Franklin, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=251&v=EQ18exdhR6I\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">visited with Donald Trump\u003c/a> and prayed for his candidacy because of Trump’s stance on “pro-life judges, pro-religious liberty judges.\" Questions have also been raised about the church's finances. \u003ca href=\"https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/inside-the-hillsong-churchs-moneymaking-machine-20151026-gkip53.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>The Sydney Morning Herald\u003c/em>\u003c/a> reports that Hillsong \"pulled in tax-free revenues of nearly $80 million in Australia [in 2014] and more than $100 million internationally.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Regardless of all that, Hillsong's pull remains strong for young celebrities like Bieber and Baldwin, and its practices are obviously appealing for thousands of people around the world. From a cynical standpoint, Hillsong's current popularity could be viewed as just another in a long line of spiritual movements that have garnered celeb followings before—the Kabbalah craze of the early 2000s, Richard Gere's friendship with the Dalai Lama, Scientology (pre-Leah Remini's \u003ca href=\"https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath\">\u003cem>Aftermath\u003c/em>\u003c/a>), among others. We have seen this kind of thing before. But it's difficult not to take notice when famous people seem to have found answers to life's biggest questions. If Bieber and Baldwin get married at Hillsong, as is expected, the church's popularity is bound to grow even further—at least for a little while.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/104409/how-justin-bieber-and-chris-pratts-favorite-church-is-taking-over-the-world","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_6","pop_1041"],"tags":["pop_3028","pop_605","pop_213","pop_340","pop_3062"],"featImg":"pop_104615","label":"pop"},"pop_103157":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_103157","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"103157","score":null,"sort":[1524089314000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"why-are-the-kardashians-so-reluctant-to-pass-on-their-legendary-name","title":"Why Are the Kardashians So Reluctant to Pass On Their Legendary Name?","publishDate":1524089314,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>True Thompson. Stormi Webster. Reign Disick. All children of the Kardashian-Jenner family and none of them with names to indicate it. When it comes to naming babies, the K-J clan are steadfast in their commitment to two things: unusual first names paired with the last names of their baby daddies. Convention clearly couldn’t be further away when it comes to the former, so why go so old-school with the latter?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only married Kardashian, Kim, is happy to double-barrel her own name into Kardashian-West, but, for some reason, hasn't done so for her three kids. In fact, Kim and her sisters are now all part of the 18 percent of American mothers who have a different last name to their partners and children. The fact that even Khloé stuck with tradition, approximately three minutes after \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2018/04/17/khloe-kardashian-baby-girl-true-tristan-thompson-leaving-cleveland/\">finding out her baby daddy is a big fat lying cheater\u003c/a>, is reasonably astonishing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So why are the Kardashians so reluctant to pass on their legendary name?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It goes without saying that children taking the last name of their father is a long-standing tradition, and the norm for most families. A \u003ca href=\"https://www.babycenter.com/0_whose-last-name-should-you-give-your-baby_10327041.bc\">2015 BabyCenter survey\u003c/a> found that only four percent of children take their mother's last name and a minuscule two percent take both parents' last names. But most families aren't the Kardashians, and most family names don't carry such a legacy. If your kid could be a Kardashian, with all of the inherent privilege and special treatment that comes with that, why would you want them to be a Thompson? Or a Webster?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perhaps the decision is related to appeasing partners who have to live in considerable Kardashian shadows. Perhaps it's a way for the men in Khloé, Kourtney, and Kylie's lives to feel more powerful and more masculine, within partnerships where the women are more successful, more famous, and probably wealthier. Or perhaps it simply goes back to the most basic of basics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Political theorist and author, \u003ca href=\"https://www.salon.com/2000/01/20/surnames/\">Jackie Stevens, told \u003cem>Salon\u003c/em> in 2000\u003c/a>: \"Inheritance laws, political bodies, surnames -- it's all about compensating for men's inability to give birth. The surname remains the only way of showing legitimacy. Without it, there's no certainty that the kid has a legal father.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/p/BhfYgXNAHTH/?hl=en&taken-by=kyliejenner\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The problem is, because of their baby-naming habits, the Kardashian name -- a name that Kris Jenner and her famed attorney husband, Robert Kardashian, worked so hard to build into the behemoth that it is -- is basically going to disappear in one generation. As it stands, the only hope for name-survival rests on the shoulders of Rob's only child, Dream Kardashian. And if Dream follows the example of her famous aunts, the name will die out in no time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is something that remains surprisingly unconsidered -- and not just by the Kardashian-Jenners. In 2013, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/dec/28/why-shouldnt-children-have-mothers-surname\">Rebecca Hardy wrote an essay\u003c/a> for \u003cem>The Guardian\u003c/em> about her decision to buck tradition and give her children her last name. Her husband was supportive. \"Surely, more women want to carry on their family names? Surely, we don't hate them so much (do we)? Yet the truth is that when I took this route, I had no idea that I was socking it to The Man,\" she wrote. \"History is important to me... It made me sad to think that hundreds of years of Hardys would come to an end... Then there was the stubborn part that thought, why should they automatically have their father's name? How sexist, how outdated is that?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not only is it outdated, it can also be deeply impractical. I have a friend who is a white single mother with a mixed race child. The two do not share a last name. My friend has been pulled aside at airport customs and immigration so many times that she now has to travel with her daughter's birth certificate to prove she is not a kidnapper. A quick scan of parenting forums and legal websites demonstrates that this is becoming \u003ca href=\"https://www.rocketlawyer.com/blog/travel-kids-dont-share-last-name-924312\">an increasingly frequent problem\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My sister, unwilling to not pass our family name onto her child, convinced her partner to agree to it by giving their son his last name as a middle name. This is, however, apparently more common in our family's part of the world. One contributor to a British genealogy website notes: \"This happens a lot in my family (in Wales). Gethin was my g[reat] grandmother's surname and has been used as a first and second name many times, including for my grandfather [and] father. An aunt had [the] middle name Norman which was a bit odd. This was her mother's maiden name.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Where you are born certainly influences how last names are passed down to the next generation. In Spain, in lieu of having middle names, children are given both their mother's and father's last names. When they themselves have children, they pass one of those names down to their child, in combination with one of their partner's last names. While, generally speaking, it is most commonly the paternal name that is chosen for continuation, it doesn't have to be. It's worth noting that \u003ca href=\"http://www.notablebiographies.com/Pe-Pu/Picasso-Pablo.html\">Picasso was Pablo's mom's name\u003c/a>, not his dad's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the picture of the typical American family changes and expands, it seems wise to rethink how last names are passed down. \u003ca href=\"http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/02/13/8-facts-about-love-and-marriage/\">According to Pew Research\u003c/a>: \"The number of Americans living with an unmarried partner reached about 18 million in 2016, up 29% since 2007.\" \u003ca href=\"https://www.everydayfamily.com/what-happens-when-mom-and-dad-arent-married/\">\u003cem>Everyday Family\u003c/em> notes:\u003c/a> \"According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the number of children born to unmarried women cohabiting with a male partner jumped to 22% in 2010, up from just 12% in 2002.\" Less marriage means less name-changing for women, and if children are still taking only their father's names, doesn't that also leave a symbolic gulf between mothers and kids?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, it is not the responsibility of the Kardashian-Jenners to start this conversation and put forth a new system that might catch America up to modern family realities. But it is disheartening to see some of the strongest, most successful women in the country, from one of the tightest, most well-known families, so willing to discard their own lineage for the sake of old-fashioned conformity -- especially when they're so willing to take charge in every other facet of their lives.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Kardashians love an unusual baby name, so why go so old-school with the surnames?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1526710492,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":1107},"headData":{"title":"Why Are the Kardashians So Reluctant to Pass On Their Legendary Name? | KQED","description":"The Kardashians love an unusual baby name, so why go so old-school with the surnames?","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Why Are the Kardashians So Reluctant to Pass On Their Legendary Name?","datePublished":"2018-04-18T22:08:34.000Z","dateModified":"2018-05-19T06:14:52.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"103157 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=103157","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2018/04/18/why-are-the-kardashians-so-reluctant-to-pass-on-their-legendary-name/","disqusTitle":"Why Are the Kardashians So Reluctant to Pass On Their Legendary Name?","path":"/pop/103157/why-are-the-kardashians-so-reluctant-to-pass-on-their-legendary-name","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>True Thompson. Stormi Webster. Reign Disick. All children of the Kardashian-Jenner family and none of them with names to indicate it. When it comes to naming babies, the K-J clan are steadfast in their commitment to two things: unusual first names paired with the last names of their baby daddies. Convention clearly couldn’t be further away when it comes to the former, so why go so old-school with the latter?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only married Kardashian, Kim, is happy to double-barrel her own name into Kardashian-West, but, for some reason, hasn't done so for her three kids. In fact, Kim and her sisters are now all part of the 18 percent of American mothers who have a different last name to their partners and children. The fact that even Khloé stuck with tradition, approximately three minutes after \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2018/04/17/khloe-kardashian-baby-girl-true-tristan-thompson-leaving-cleveland/\">finding out her baby daddy is a big fat lying cheater\u003c/a>, is reasonably astonishing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So why are the Kardashians so reluctant to pass on their legendary name?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It goes without saying that children taking the last name of their father is a long-standing tradition, and the norm for most families. A \u003ca href=\"https://www.babycenter.com/0_whose-last-name-should-you-give-your-baby_10327041.bc\">2015 BabyCenter survey\u003c/a> found that only four percent of children take their mother's last name and a minuscule two percent take both parents' last names. But most families aren't the Kardashians, and most family names don't carry such a legacy. If your kid could be a Kardashian, with all of the inherent privilege and special treatment that comes with that, why would you want them to be a Thompson? Or a Webster?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perhaps the decision is related to appeasing partners who have to live in considerable Kardashian shadows. Perhaps it's a way for the men in Khloé, Kourtney, and Kylie's lives to feel more powerful and more masculine, within partnerships where the women are more successful, more famous, and probably wealthier. Or perhaps it simply goes back to the most basic of basics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Political theorist and author, \u003ca href=\"https://www.salon.com/2000/01/20/surnames/\">Jackie Stevens, told \u003cem>Salon\u003c/em> in 2000\u003c/a>: \"Inheritance laws, political bodies, surnames -- it's all about compensating for men's inability to give birth. The surname remains the only way of showing legitimacy. Without it, there's no certainty that the kid has a legal father.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramId":"BhfYgXNAHTH"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The problem is, because of their baby-naming habits, the Kardashian name -- a name that Kris Jenner and her famed attorney husband, Robert Kardashian, worked so hard to build into the behemoth that it is -- is basically going to disappear in one generation. As it stands, the only hope for name-survival rests on the shoulders of Rob's only child, Dream Kardashian. And if Dream follows the example of her famous aunts, the name will die out in no time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is something that remains surprisingly unconsidered -- and not just by the Kardashian-Jenners. In 2013, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/dec/28/why-shouldnt-children-have-mothers-surname\">Rebecca Hardy wrote an essay\u003c/a> for \u003cem>The Guardian\u003c/em> about her decision to buck tradition and give her children her last name. Her husband was supportive. \"Surely, more women want to carry on their family names? Surely, we don't hate them so much (do we)? Yet the truth is that when I took this route, I had no idea that I was socking it to The Man,\" she wrote. \"History is important to me... It made me sad to think that hundreds of years of Hardys would come to an end... Then there was the stubborn part that thought, why should they automatically have their father's name? How sexist, how outdated is that?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not only is it outdated, it can also be deeply impractical. I have a friend who is a white single mother with a mixed race child. The two do not share a last name. My friend has been pulled aside at airport customs and immigration so many times that she now has to travel with her daughter's birth certificate to prove she is not a kidnapper. A quick scan of parenting forums and legal websites demonstrates that this is becoming \u003ca href=\"https://www.rocketlawyer.com/blog/travel-kids-dont-share-last-name-924312\">an increasingly frequent problem\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My sister, unwilling to not pass our family name onto her child, convinced her partner to agree to it by giving their son his last name as a middle name. This is, however, apparently more common in our family's part of the world. One contributor to a British genealogy website notes: \"This happens a lot in my family (in Wales). Gethin was my g[reat] grandmother's surname and has been used as a first and second name many times, including for my grandfather [and] father. An aunt had [the] middle name Norman which was a bit odd. This was her mother's maiden name.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Where you are born certainly influences how last names are passed down to the next generation. In Spain, in lieu of having middle names, children are given both their mother's and father's last names. When they themselves have children, they pass one of those names down to their child, in combination with one of their partner's last names. While, generally speaking, it is most commonly the paternal name that is chosen for continuation, it doesn't have to be. It's worth noting that \u003ca href=\"http://www.notablebiographies.com/Pe-Pu/Picasso-Pablo.html\">Picasso was Pablo's mom's name\u003c/a>, not his dad's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the picture of the typical American family changes and expands, it seems wise to rethink how last names are passed down. \u003ca href=\"http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/02/13/8-facts-about-love-and-marriage/\">According to Pew Research\u003c/a>: \"The number of Americans living with an unmarried partner reached about 18 million in 2016, up 29% since 2007.\" \u003ca href=\"https://www.everydayfamily.com/what-happens-when-mom-and-dad-arent-married/\">\u003cem>Everyday Family\u003c/em> notes:\u003c/a> \"According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the number of children born to unmarried women cohabiting with a male partner jumped to 22% in 2010, up from just 12% in 2002.\" Less marriage means less name-changing for women, and if children are still taking only their father's names, doesn't that also leave a symbolic gulf between mothers and kids?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, it is not the responsibility of the Kardashian-Jenners to start this conversation and put forth a new system that might catch America up to modern family realities. But it is disheartening to see some of the strongest, most successful women in the country, from one of the tightest, most well-known families, so willing to discard their own lineage for the sake of old-fashioned conformity -- especially when they're so willing to take charge in every other facet of their lives.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/103157/why-are-the-kardashians-so-reluctant-to-pass-on-their-legendary-name","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_7"],"tags":["pop_213"],"featImg":"pop_103702","label":"pop"},"pop_96391":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_96391","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"96391","score":null,"sort":[1506624743000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"kylie-jenners-pregnancy-highlights-how-being-pregnant-in-public-can-dehumanize-women","title":"Kylie Jenner's Pregnancy Highlights How Being Pregnant in Public Can Dehumanize Women","publishDate":1506624743,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>When the news about Kylie Jenner's pregnancy broke last week, it came close to breaking the internet in a way only her big sister's naked, oily rump has previously managed. The headlines screamed: \u003ca href=\"http://people.com/tv/kim-kardashian-didnt-respond-well-at-first-to-kylie-jenners-pregnancy-news-source/\">\"Kim Didn't Respond Well at First!\"\u003c/a>; \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/26/kylie-jenner-pregnant-with-baby-girl-travis-scott/\">\"It's a Girl!\"\u003c/a>; \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4542813/caitlyn-jenner-was-told-about-kylies-pregnancy-as-reps-for-the-star-confirm-baby-rumours-for-the-first-time/\">Caitlyn Jenner WAS told about Kylie's pregnancy...\u003c/a>\" and all manner of other things. Within days, and in a fit of bonafide baby fever, \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/is-khloe-kardashian-pregnant-with-tristan-thompsons-baby-w501625\">US Weekly\u003c/a>\u003c/em> announced that Kylie's half-sister Khloe was \u003ca href=\"http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/is-khloe-kardashian-pregnant-with-tristan-thompsons-baby-w501625\">also with child\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most interesting thing to note about all of this is that the pregnancy, and the people around Kylie, are at the center of these stories -- not Kylie herself. It's almost as if, as her pregnancy has become real to the public, she has been \u003ca href=\"http://dish.hellomamas.com/index.php/loneliness-during-pregnancy-the-why-and-the-what-to-do-about-it/\">rendered invisible\u003c/a>. And, as a lot of pregnant women will tell you, this is a remarkably commonplace occurrence for even non-famous moms-to-be in America (and probably in a lot of other places too), thanks to a culture that often places more importance on the lives of unborn children than it does on their mothers'.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Somehow, being pregnant can objectify women even further than an average un-pregnant day. While strangers don't typically walk up to other strangers on the street and touch them without asking, a quick Google search finds \u003ca href=\"https://www.thebump.com/a/stop-touching-my-belly\">a multitude of women\u003c/a> desperately asking the internet how to stop strangers from touching their pregnant bellies. Back in 2013, a woman who chose to remain anonymous, wrote for \u003ca href=\"http://www.xojane.com/issues/please-dont-touch-my-tummy-bro\">\u003cem>XO Jane\u003c/em>\u003c/a>: \"Somehow by carrying a child within it, my belly has become public property.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This erasure of self by others, common for many pregnant women, is writ even larger for the famous ones like Kylie Jenner. America adores celebrities and, even more than that, it adores babies. When these two things successfully combine, the country can become utterly insatiable. Non-famous women may have to suffer through having their bellies touched by strangers, but celebrities have to deal with every facet of their pregnancies being dissected by the whole world, around the clock, as if they are unfeeling incubators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-96400 aligncenter\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-800x494.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"494\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-800x494.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-160x99.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-768x475.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-1020x630.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-1920x1187.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-1180x729.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-960x593.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-240x148.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-375x232.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-520x321.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An added problem for reality stars -- and any celebrity living in the age of the 24-hour news cycle, for that matter -- is that fans feel like they literally know their favorite famous people. Kylie's situation is particularly extreme because the world has watched her grow up. We know how she was home-schooled, we know what the inside of her house looks like, we know what she drives, we know how she babies her dogs, we know her siblings and her parents, and her workout regime. Now she's having an actual baby? Well, the world feels entitled to be part of that too. Which is probably why Jenner had the good sense to keep her pregnancy secret for the first five months of it, instead of the customary three.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The media's love affair with baby bumps runs so deep that female celebrities can't so much as \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BU9xRiuA_O9/?hl=en\">eat a big meal\u003c/a> without magazines wondering aloud if they are expecting. On the occasions when the good news is confirmed by an appropriate number of sources, every publication and website in the country plunges itself into a slightly insane long-distance race. The first hurdle is getting a \u003ca href=\"https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/Kylie-Jenner-Pregnant-Instagram-Pictures-44069478\">photo of the baby bump\u003c/a>. The second is wondering aloud if the new baby's parents are going to \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qvcG_269bY\">be good enough\u003c/a>. The final hurdle is one that requires piling money higher than all other media competitors in order to be the first to get photos of the newborn child. Oh, and once past the finish line, there will be a dehumanizing, months-long analysis of mom's post-baby body.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Talk to enough pregnant women, famous or not, and many of them will tell you the process can become an isolating one -- not because of the physical changes afoot, but because of how differently people treat you. The coverage of Kylie Jenner in the press since the pregnancy announcement is simply a larger, more visible, more extreme version of what most pregnant women go through.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In pregnancy, Kylie Jenner has been rendered invisible, a feeling too many women have experienced.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1506630078,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":10,"wordCount":705},"headData":{"title":"Kylie Jenner's Pregnancy Highlights How Being Pregnant in Public Can Dehumanize Women | KQED","description":"In pregnancy, Kylie Jenner has been rendered invisible, a feeling too many women have experienced.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Kylie Jenner's Pregnancy Highlights How Being Pregnant in Public Can Dehumanize Women","datePublished":"2017-09-28T18:52:23.000Z","dateModified":"2017-09-28T20:21:18.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"96391 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=96391","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2017/09/28/kylie-jenners-pregnancy-highlights-how-being-pregnant-in-public-can-dehumanize-women/","disqusTitle":"Kylie Jenner's Pregnancy Highlights How Being Pregnant in Public Can Dehumanize Women","path":"/pop/96391/kylie-jenners-pregnancy-highlights-how-being-pregnant-in-public-can-dehumanize-women","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>When the news about Kylie Jenner's pregnancy broke last week, it came close to breaking the internet in a way only her big sister's naked, oily rump has previously managed. The headlines screamed: \u003ca href=\"http://people.com/tv/kim-kardashian-didnt-respond-well-at-first-to-kylie-jenners-pregnancy-news-source/\">\"Kim Didn't Respond Well at First!\"\u003c/a>; \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/26/kylie-jenner-pregnant-with-baby-girl-travis-scott/\">\"It's a Girl!\"\u003c/a>; \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4542813/caitlyn-jenner-was-told-about-kylies-pregnancy-as-reps-for-the-star-confirm-baby-rumours-for-the-first-time/\">Caitlyn Jenner WAS told about Kylie's pregnancy...\u003c/a>\" and all manner of other things. Within days, and in a fit of bonafide baby fever, \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/is-khloe-kardashian-pregnant-with-tristan-thompsons-baby-w501625\">US Weekly\u003c/a>\u003c/em> announced that Kylie's half-sister Khloe was \u003ca href=\"http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/is-khloe-kardashian-pregnant-with-tristan-thompsons-baby-w501625\">also with child\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most interesting thing to note about all of this is that the pregnancy, and the people around Kylie, are at the center of these stories -- not Kylie herself. It's almost as if, as her pregnancy has become real to the public, she has been \u003ca href=\"http://dish.hellomamas.com/index.php/loneliness-during-pregnancy-the-why-and-the-what-to-do-about-it/\">rendered invisible\u003c/a>. And, as a lot of pregnant women will tell you, this is a remarkably commonplace occurrence for even non-famous moms-to-be in America (and probably in a lot of other places too), thanks to a culture that often places more importance on the lives of unborn children than it does on their mothers'.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Somehow, being pregnant can objectify women even further than an average un-pregnant day. While strangers don't typically walk up to other strangers on the street and touch them without asking, a quick Google search finds \u003ca href=\"https://www.thebump.com/a/stop-touching-my-belly\">a multitude of women\u003c/a> desperately asking the internet how to stop strangers from touching their pregnant bellies. Back in 2013, a woman who chose to remain anonymous, wrote for \u003ca href=\"http://www.xojane.com/issues/please-dont-touch-my-tummy-bro\">\u003cem>XO Jane\u003c/em>\u003c/a>: \"Somehow by carrying a child within it, my belly has become public property.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This erasure of self by others, common for many pregnant women, is writ even larger for the famous ones like Kylie Jenner. America adores celebrities and, even more than that, it adores babies. When these two things successfully combine, the country can become utterly insatiable. Non-famous women may have to suffer through having their bellies touched by strangers, but celebrities have to deal with every facet of their pregnancies being dissected by the whole world, around the clock, as if they are unfeeling incubators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-96400 aligncenter\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-800x494.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"494\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-800x494.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-160x99.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-768x475.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-1020x630.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-1920x1187.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-1180x729.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-960x593.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-240x148.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-375x232.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/K-pregnancies-520x321.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An added problem for reality stars -- and any celebrity living in the age of the 24-hour news cycle, for that matter -- is that fans feel like they literally know their favorite famous people. Kylie's situation is particularly extreme because the world has watched her grow up. We know how she was home-schooled, we know what the inside of her house looks like, we know what she drives, we know how she babies her dogs, we know her siblings and her parents, and her workout regime. Now she's having an actual baby? Well, the world feels entitled to be part of that too. Which is probably why Jenner had the good sense to keep her pregnancy secret for the first five months of it, instead of the customary three.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The media's love affair with baby bumps runs so deep that female celebrities can't so much as \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BU9xRiuA_O9/?hl=en\">eat a big meal\u003c/a> without magazines wondering aloud if they are expecting. On the occasions when the good news is confirmed by an appropriate number of sources, every publication and website in the country plunges itself into a slightly insane long-distance race. The first hurdle is getting a \u003ca href=\"https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/Kylie-Jenner-Pregnant-Instagram-Pictures-44069478\">photo of the baby bump\u003c/a>. The second is wondering aloud if the new baby's parents are going to \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qvcG_269bY\">be good enough\u003c/a>. The final hurdle is one that requires piling money higher than all other media competitors in order to be the first to get photos of the newborn child. Oh, and once past the finish line, there will be a dehumanizing, months-long analysis of mom's post-baby body.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Talk to enough pregnant women, famous or not, and many of them will tell you the process can become an isolating one -- not because of the physical changes afoot, but because of how differently people treat you. The coverage of Kylie Jenner in the press since the pregnancy announcement is simply a larger, more visible, more extreme version of what most pregnant women go through.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/96391/kylie-jenners-pregnancy-highlights-how-being-pregnant-in-public-can-dehumanize-women","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_7"],"tags":["pop_213","pop_3031","pop_3070"],"featImg":"pop_96396","label":"pop"},"pop_95625":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_95625","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"95625","score":null,"sort":[1502399518000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-agony-and-ecstasy-of-kylie-jenner-aging-as-told-by-social-media","title":"The Agony and Ecstasy of Kylie Jenner Aging, as Told by Social Media","publishDate":1502399518,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>It's Kylie Jenner's 20th birthday today — and probably her biggest gift is learning that she'll most likely be a billionaire by 2022, thanks to her ridiculously popular \u003ca href=\"https://www.kyliecosmetics.com/\">Kylie cosmetics\u003c/a> line. (The company has made an incredible \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/10/kris-jenner-kylie-jenner-makeup-billion-brand-kuwtk/\">$420 million\u003c/a> in 18 months, so yeah... Take that, \u003ca href=\"https://www.shoparthurgeorge.com/\">Rob Kardashian's sock line\u003c/a>!)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kylie celebrated her birthday on Instagram like this:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/p/BXmgo25FKFi/?taken-by=kyliejenner\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And also by giving back, like this:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/p/BXnt8hbl3Wu/?taken-by=kyliejenner\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, as is the way of 2017, many of Kylie's birthday well-wishes came via the medium of social media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her boyfriend Travis Scott posted:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/travyscotty/status/895721025513697280\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ryan Seacrest sent his regards:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/RyanSeacrest/status/895711658084978688\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From one heiress to another:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/ParisHilton/status/895573533157470209\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A Travis Scott fan page revealed:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/RodeoTheAlbum/status/895682337194881024\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some (though surprisingly not all!) of the family chimed in:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/KrisJenner/status/895653270038888448\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/KimKardashian/status/895661465113305089\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/khloekardashian/status/895705461533667328\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>E! had this to say:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/e_entertainment/status/895721425255899136\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>People\u003c/em> made this hypnotic little piece of insanity:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/people/status/895611956224172032\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And there was a shoutout from Balmain:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/Balmain/status/895405600976375808\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then there were the enthusiastic (terrifying?) fans:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-95627\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-800x1422.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1422\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-800x1422.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-160x284.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-768x1365.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-1020x1813.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-1180x2098.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-960x1707.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-240x427.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-375x667.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-520x924.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436.png 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/SparkDise/status/895580449615097856\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Note the Twitter handle):\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/KingKylieJenK/status/895694093375897600\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it wouldn't be social media without people getting weird and kinda mean:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/ahleeshie/status/895692683770974208\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/Swain_Fluu/status/895681665019899904\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/cutenug/status/895728178408435712\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/jacobstark25/status/895718489385730050\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And there you have it. Happy Birthday, Kylie!\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Everyone and their brother has something to say about Kylie Jenner turning 20.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1502399567,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":19,"wordCount":295},"headData":{"title":"The Agony and Ecstasy of Kylie Jenner Aging, as Told by Social Media | KQED","description":"Everyone and their brother has something to say about Kylie Jenner turning 20.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"The Agony and Ecstasy of Kylie Jenner Aging, as Told by Social Media","datePublished":"2017-08-10T21:11:58.000Z","dateModified":"2017-08-10T21:12:47.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"95625 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=95625","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2017/08/10/the-agony-and-ecstasy-of-kylie-jenner-aging-as-told-by-social-media/","disqusTitle":"The Agony and Ecstasy of Kylie Jenner Aging, as Told by Social Media","path":"/pop/95625/the-agony-and-ecstasy-of-kylie-jenner-aging-as-told-by-social-media","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>It's Kylie Jenner's 20th birthday today — and probably her biggest gift is learning that she'll most likely be a billionaire by 2022, thanks to her ridiculously popular \u003ca href=\"https://www.kyliecosmetics.com/\">Kylie cosmetics\u003c/a> line. (The company has made an incredible \u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/10/kris-jenner-kylie-jenner-makeup-billion-brand-kuwtk/\">$420 million\u003c/a> in 18 months, so yeah... Take that, \u003ca href=\"https://www.shoparthurgeorge.com/\">Rob Kardashian's sock line\u003c/a>!)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kylie celebrated her birthday on Instagram like this:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramId":"BXmgo25FKFi"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>And also by giving back, like this:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramId":"BXnt8hbl3Wu"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, as is the way of 2017, many of Kylie's birthday well-wishes came via the medium of social media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her boyfriend Travis Scott posted:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895721025513697280"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Ryan Seacrest sent his regards:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895711658084978688"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>From one heiress to another:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895573533157470209"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>A Travis Scott fan page revealed:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895682337194881024"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Some (though surprisingly not all!) of the family chimed in:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895653270038888448"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895661465113305089"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895705461533667328"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>E! had this to say:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895721425255899136"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>People\u003c/em> made this hypnotic little piece of insanity:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895611956224172032"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>And there was a shoutout from Balmain:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895405600976375808"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Then there were the enthusiastic (terrifying?) fans:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-95627\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-800x1422.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1422\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-800x1422.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-160x284.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-768x1365.png 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-1020x1813.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-1180x2098.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-960x1707.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-240x427.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-375x667.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436-520x924.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/08/Screenshot_20170810-075436.png 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895580449615097856"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>(Note the Twitter handle):\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895694093375897600"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>But it wouldn't be social media without people getting weird and kinda mean:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895692683770974208"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895681665019899904"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895728178408435712"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"895718489385730050"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And there you have it. Happy Birthday, Kylie!\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/95625/the-agony-and-ecstasy-of-kylie-jenner-aging-as-told-by-social-media","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_7"],"tags":["pop_213","pop_3031"],"featImg":"pop_95626","label":"pop"},"pop_90162":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_90162","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"90162","score":null,"sort":[1499331101000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"rob-kardashians-treatment-of-blac-chyna-isnt-a-slice-of-reality-tv-drama-its-illegal","title":"Rob Kardashian's Treatment of Blac Chyna Isn't a Slice of Reality TV Drama, It's Illegal","publishDate":1499331101,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>This week, Rob Kardashian and Blac Chyna aired all of their dirty laundry on social media. In the midst of their horrifying online exchanges, Blac Chyna alleged that Rob Kardashian had physically abused her. The allegation didn't seem particularly unfeasible given everything else that was going on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After enduring online verbal abuse from her ex -- relating to her sex life, spending habits, recreational activities, and parenting (among other things) -- the father of her second child went on to post photos of her that were so explicit, Instagram had to take them down. Twice. Eventually, the photo-sharing app was forced to\u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/05/rob-kardashian-instagram-page-shut-down-tweets-blac-chyna-nudes/\"> \u003c/a>\u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/05/rob-kardashian-instagram-page-shut-down-tweets-blac-chyna-nudes/\">shut Kardashian's entire account down\u003c/a> to make him stop posting revenge porn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the dirty laundry aired by Kardashian online is shocking even by 2017 standards (even Snoop Dogg felt the need to \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2l4GEQYyY\">weigh in\u003c/a>), what isn't new is Rob's penchant for misogyny. The youngest Kardashian has a long and well-documented history when it comes to hating, and attempting to shame, women -- including his sisters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rob has been a regular on his family's reality TV hit, \u003cem>Keeping Up With the Kardashians\u003c/em>, on and off since it launched in 2007. It has been difficult in that time not to notice the vernacular he uses any time he has a disagreement with one of his sisters -- his go-to word has consistently been \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vshHTXWzT-U\">\"whore.\"\u003c/a> The show has also effectively demonstrated that when Rob Kardashian is triggered, he lashes out quickly, aggressively, and in a manner that is usually startlingly uncalled for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even when his relationship with Chyna was happy, Kardashian referred to his baby mama in objectifying and dehumanizing ways online, most memorably:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-90172\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"202\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224.jpg 750w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224-160x129.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224-240x194.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224-375x303.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224-520x420.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Little surprise then, that Kardashian is also a prolific slut-shamer. In his most recent rants about Blac Chyna, he said: \"She everybody’s and it’s been that way.\" He once told Kim: \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z3msnEwNes\">\"I hope your sex tape haunts you for the rest of your life.\"\u003c/a> Another of Rob's exes, Adrienne Bailon, recently noted on an episode of \u003ca href=\"http://www.eonline.com/news/796608/adrienne-bailon-clears-up-past-rob-kardashian-rumors-i-absolutely-never-cheated\">\u003cem>The Real\u003c/em>\u003c/a>: \"I absolutely never cheated on Rob... And the way it's said—it's like, 'She slept with mad people.' I'm like, 'Uh, I can't speak for anybody else, but I can assure [you] that was not me.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Similarly, when Kardashian and Rita Ora split, he went on an unhinged Twitter tirade that prompted the (appalling) phrase \"Rita Whora\" to start trending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-90173\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"440\" height=\"660\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large-240x360.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large-375x563.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large-520x780.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every time Rob Kardashian breaks up with a woman, he publicly and viciously accuses her of sleeping around. His behavior is consistent, horrifying, and very familiar to anybody who has ever found themselves caught in an abusive relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an article designed to help individuals recognize whether or not they are in an abusive relationship, \u003ca href=\"https://www.helpguide.org/articles/abuse/domestic-violence-and-abuse.htm\">Helpguide.org\u003c/a> describes a number of traits displayed publicly by Kardashian: \"Abusive individuals need to feel in charge of the relationship. Your abuser may treat you… as [a] possession.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It goes on: \"An abuser will do everything he or she can to make you feel bad about yourself or defective in some way. Insults, name-calling, shaming, and public put-downs are all weapons of abuse designed to erode your self-esteem and make you feel powerless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Abusers... will commonly shift the responsibility on to you: Somehow, his… behavior is your fault.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This last one is why Rob Kardashian is so focused on the sex lives of his exes -- it gives him an excuse to enact the aforementioned public put-downs that he wields in a desperate bid to shame his exes into submission and \"feel in charge\" again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Blac Chyna's Snapchat posts that allege Rob \"beat\" and \"put hand\" on her, she also exclaims: \"I'm supposed to be quiet because you're a Kardashian.\" It is undoubtedly true that famous men have historically been given free passes when it comes to getting away with domestic violence, and, when it comes to this specific allegation, at this stage, it can only be Chyna's word against Kardashian's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, if Chyna wished to press charges against Kardashian for revenge porn, she would be well within her rights, as a California resident, to do so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.wksexcrimes.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-californias-revenge-porn-law/\">Whallin & Klarich Law Corporation\u003c/a>: \"Under SB 255, an act of revenge porn is defined as someone who 'photographs or records by any means the image of the intimate body part or parts of another identifiable person, under circumstances where the parties agree or understand that the image shall remain private, and the person subsequently distributes the image taken, with the intent to cause serious emotional distress, and the depicted person suffers serious emotional distress.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Further, \"SB 255 classifies revenge porn as disorderly conduct, which is a misdemeanor in California. If you are convicted of this crime, a first offense could land you in county jail for up to six months and you could also be fined up to $1,000 fine under PC 647.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is reasonably unlikely that Blac Chyna would seek to prosecute an individual that she co-parents with, but if she did move in that direction, it may teach Kardashian -- and other abusers, famous or otherwise -- a valuable lesson. Currently, Rob Kardashian thinks so little of the abuse he spews onto social media, he keeps doing it over and over again. Even Instagram's objections to the images he was posting did not to deter him from repeatedly posting them. There is a level of self-entitlement and privilege -- not to mention his own sense of being justified -- that should set alarm bells off for everyone in Rob Kardashian's vicinity, as well as everyone watching this whole sorry mess go down from a safe distance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kardashian's behavior is both abusive and illegal. It should be recognized as such and not merely treated as another slice of reality TV drama.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The latest in Rob Kardashian's long history of publicly shaming women.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1499331101,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":999},"headData":{"title":"Rob Kardashian's Treatment of Blac Chyna Isn't a Slice of Reality TV Drama, It's Illegal | KQED","description":"The latest in Rob Kardashian's long history of publicly shaming women.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Rob Kardashian's Treatment of Blac Chyna Isn't a Slice of Reality TV Drama, It's Illegal","datePublished":"2017-07-06T08:51:41.000Z","dateModified":"2017-07-06T08:51:41.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"90162 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=90162","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2017/07/06/rob-kardashians-treatment-of-blac-chyna-isnt-a-slice-of-reality-tv-drama-its-illegal/","disqusTitle":"Rob Kardashian's Treatment of Blac Chyna Isn't a Slice of Reality TV Drama, It's Illegal","path":"/pop/90162/rob-kardashians-treatment-of-blac-chyna-isnt-a-slice-of-reality-tv-drama-its-illegal","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>This week, Rob Kardashian and Blac Chyna aired all of their dirty laundry on social media. In the midst of their horrifying online exchanges, Blac Chyna alleged that Rob Kardashian had physically abused her. The allegation didn't seem particularly unfeasible given everything else that was going on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After enduring online verbal abuse from her ex -- relating to her sex life, spending habits, recreational activities, and parenting (among other things) -- the father of her second child went on to post photos of her that were so explicit, Instagram had to take them down. Twice. Eventually, the photo-sharing app was forced to\u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/05/rob-kardashian-instagram-page-shut-down-tweets-blac-chyna-nudes/\"> \u003c/a>\u003ca href=\"http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/05/rob-kardashian-instagram-page-shut-down-tweets-blac-chyna-nudes/\">shut Kardashian's entire account down\u003c/a> to make him stop posting revenge porn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the dirty laundry aired by Kardashian online is shocking even by 2017 standards (even Snoop Dogg felt the need to \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2l4GEQYyY\">weigh in\u003c/a>), what isn't new is Rob's penchant for misogyny. The youngest Kardashian has a long and well-documented history when it comes to hating, and attempting to shame, women -- including his sisters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rob has been a regular on his family's reality TV hit, \u003cem>Keeping Up With the Kardashians\u003c/em>, on and off since it launched in 2007. It has been difficult in that time not to notice the vernacular he uses any time he has a disagreement with one of his sisters -- his go-to word has consistently been \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vshHTXWzT-U\">\"whore.\"\u003c/a> The show has also effectively demonstrated that when Rob Kardashian is triggered, he lashes out quickly, aggressively, and in a manner that is usually startlingly uncalled for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even when his relationship with Chyna was happy, Kardashian referred to his baby mama in objectifying and dehumanizing ways online, most memorably:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-90172\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"202\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224.jpg 750w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224-160x129.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224-240x194.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224-375x303.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/article-rob-0224-520x420.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Little surprise then, that Kardashian is also a prolific slut-shamer. In his most recent rants about Blac Chyna, he said: \"She everybody’s and it’s been that way.\" He once told Kim: \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z3msnEwNes\">\"I hope your sex tape haunts you for the rest of your life.\"\u003c/a> Another of Rob's exes, Adrienne Bailon, recently noted on an episode of \u003ca href=\"http://www.eonline.com/news/796608/adrienne-bailon-clears-up-past-rob-kardashian-rumors-i-absolutely-never-cheated\">\u003cem>The Real\u003c/em>\u003c/a>: \"I absolutely never cheated on Rob... And the way it's said—it's like, 'She slept with mad people.' I'm like, 'Uh, I can't speak for anybody else, but I can assure [you] that was not me.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Similarly, when Kardashian and Rita Ora split, he went on an unhinged Twitter tirade that prompted the (appalling) phrase \"Rita Whora\" to start trending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-90173\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"440\" height=\"660\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large-240x360.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large-375x563.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/07/A9M-GEPCcAEBmi0.jpg-large-520x780.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every time Rob Kardashian breaks up with a woman, he publicly and viciously accuses her of sleeping around. His behavior is consistent, horrifying, and very familiar to anybody who has ever found themselves caught in an abusive relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an article designed to help individuals recognize whether or not they are in an abusive relationship, \u003ca href=\"https://www.helpguide.org/articles/abuse/domestic-violence-and-abuse.htm\">Helpguide.org\u003c/a> describes a number of traits displayed publicly by Kardashian: \"Abusive individuals need to feel in charge of the relationship. Your abuser may treat you… as [a] possession.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It goes on: \"An abuser will do everything he or she can to make you feel bad about yourself or defective in some way. Insults, name-calling, shaming, and public put-downs are all weapons of abuse designed to erode your self-esteem and make you feel powerless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Abusers... will commonly shift the responsibility on to you: Somehow, his… behavior is your fault.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This last one is why Rob Kardashian is so focused on the sex lives of his exes -- it gives him an excuse to enact the aforementioned public put-downs that he wields in a desperate bid to shame his exes into submission and \"feel in charge\" again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Blac Chyna's Snapchat posts that allege Rob \"beat\" and \"put hand\" on her, she also exclaims: \"I'm supposed to be quiet because you're a Kardashian.\" It is undoubtedly true that famous men have historically been given free passes when it comes to getting away with domestic violence, and, when it comes to this specific allegation, at this stage, it can only be Chyna's word against Kardashian's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, if Chyna wished to press charges against Kardashian for revenge porn, she would be well within her rights, as a California resident, to do so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.wksexcrimes.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-californias-revenge-porn-law/\">Whallin & Klarich Law Corporation\u003c/a>: \"Under SB 255, an act of revenge porn is defined as someone who 'photographs or records by any means the image of the intimate body part or parts of another identifiable person, under circumstances where the parties agree or understand that the image shall remain private, and the person subsequently distributes the image taken, with the intent to cause serious emotional distress, and the depicted person suffers serious emotional distress.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Further, \"SB 255 classifies revenge porn as disorderly conduct, which is a misdemeanor in California. If you are convicted of this crime, a first offense could land you in county jail for up to six months and you could also be fined up to $1,000 fine under PC 647.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is reasonably unlikely that Blac Chyna would seek to prosecute an individual that she co-parents with, but if she did move in that direction, it may teach Kardashian -- and other abusers, famous or otherwise -- a valuable lesson. Currently, Rob Kardashian thinks so little of the abuse he spews onto social media, he keeps doing it over and over again. Even Instagram's objections to the images he was posting did not to deter him from repeatedly posting them. There is a level of self-entitlement and privilege -- not to mention his own sense of being justified -- that should set alarm bells off for everyone in Rob Kardashian's vicinity, as well as everyone watching this whole sorry mess go down from a safe distance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kardashian's behavior is both abusive and illegal. It should be recognized as such and not merely treated as another slice of reality TV drama.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/90162/rob-kardashians-treatment-of-blac-chyna-isnt-a-slice-of-reality-tv-drama-its-illegal","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_3"],"tags":["pop_213"],"featImg":"pop_90210","label":"pop"},"pop_16575":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_16575","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"16575","score":null,"sort":[1433378494000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"snoop-dogg-calls-caitlyn-jenner-a-science-project-continues-his-history-of-transphobia","title":"Snoop Dogg Calls Caitlyn Jenner A \"Science Project,\" Continues His History of Transphobia","publishDate":1433378494,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Snoop Dogg and Napa Valley aren't terms that usually go together, but the pairing made sense this weekend when the rapper made an appearance at BottleRock. Gabe Meline, KQED Arts' music editor, \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2015/06/01/bottlerock-2015-review-now-on-its-feet-a-festival-in-search-of-an-identity/\" target=\"_blank\">was there\u003c/a> and witnessed Snoop good-naturedly rolling sushi with chef Masaharu Morimoto (while making the requisite joint-rolling jokes) and \"uniting 30,000 people in a singalong of love and positivity.\" This is how our culture thinks of Snoop, as a charming, funny and harmless hitmaker. But that reputation isn't entirely deserved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The reception \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2015/06/01/caitlyn-jenner-on-vanity-fair-cover-im-free/\" target=\"_blank\">Caitlyn Jenner\u003c/a> has received this week has been mostly positive, apart from some fringe people who just don't get it. Surely, Snoop, America's Rap Sweetheart, would offer his unconditional support and not say anything awful, right? Yeah, not so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-16580\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2015-06-03-at-5.02.27-PM.png\" alt=\"akon spoon transphobia caitlyn jenner\" width=\"655\" height=\"736\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2015-06-03-at-5.02.27-PM.png 655w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2015-06-03-at-5.02.27-PM-400x449.png 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 655px) 100vw, 655px\">\u003cbr>\nShocked? Well, you shouldn't be. This isn't the first time Snoop has said transphobic or homophobic things on social media. At the beginning of the year, Snoop \u003ca href=\"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901989/Snoop-Dogg-facing-lawsuit-mocking-Instagram-post-sparked-homophobic-bullying-gay-carer.html\" target=\"_blank\">posted a photo\u003c/a> of Cortez Booze on his Instagram along with the question, \"Who's auntcle is this?\" Booze, who works at a care home in Maryland, was then subjected to an onslaught of abuse from Snoop fans. One Instagram user commented: \"That shemale ain't gone win. U get wat u get if u choose to dress how u dress. Consequences for your choices so use some common sense.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-16577\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/2482314E00000578-0-image-a-64_1420726360100.jpg\" alt=\"snoop aunctle transphobic\" width=\"634\" height=\"377\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/2482314E00000578-0-image-a-64_1420726360100.jpg 634w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/2482314E00000578-0-image-a-64_1420726360100-400x238.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few months before that, Snoop posted a photo of two men in bed with the following caption: \"U n ya boyfriend since u like Jumpin on my page disrespectn bitch boy go f*ck ya man n get off my line f.A.G.\" A fan commented: \"Keep it Gangsta Snoop dez F*gs talk tooo much.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-16576\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/enhanced-11861-1410758815-1.png\" alt=\"snoop homophobic instagram\" width=\"625\" height=\"404\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/enhanced-11861-1410758815-1.png 625w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/enhanced-11861-1410758815-1-400x259.png 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People look up to Snoop. If he appears to be denigrating someone because of their gender expression or sexuality, his fans feel as though it's acceptable and take it further. Lots of celebrities use the \"I didn't sign up for being a role model\" excuse, but the reality is that, once you're a notable person, people are following your lead, whether you like it or not. After 23 years in the business, one would think Snoop would know better than this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's curious behavior from someone who claimed to the \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/snoop-lion-on-gay-marriage-reincarnated-diplo-cheaters-/5154394d02a76031b300000c\" target=\"_blank\">Huffington Post\u003c/a>\u003c/em> that he has \"no issues with nobody. I live for me and I live my life doing what I do, so you should have the right to do whatever you want to do.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2013, \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/apr/06/snoop-dogg-lion-interview\" target=\"_blank\">The Guardian\u003c/a>\u003c/em> asked him about whether he thought Frank Ocean's coming out was a sign of progress in terms of acceptance in the rap world. Snoop had this to say: \"Frank Ocean ain't no rapper. He's a singer. It's acceptable in the singing world, but in the rap world I don't know if it will ever be acceptable because rap is so masculine. It's like a football team. You can't be in a locker room full of motherf*cking tough-ass dudes, then all of a sudden say, 'Hey, man, I like you.' You know, that's going to be tough.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So gay men are incapable of being masculine, lust after straight men and cannot control their urges in locker rooms. Got it. Even when he's trying to come across as accepting, he ends up revealing how ignorant he is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, the Snoop Dogg we know is nothing but a caricature crafted by Calvin Cordozar Broadus Jr. And he's not alone: Many rap artists also play up heightened version of themselves. They redefine who they are; they change their names (Snoop Lion, P Diddy, *insert Prince symbol here*, etc.). The rap world deals heavily in the fluid nature of identity, yet, for some reason, some of its members can't find the empathy to understand gender or sexual fluidity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a culture that's become obsessed with public shaming (hi, Justine Sacco!), it's odd that Snoop continues to exhibit homophobic and transphobic attitudes on social media with zero consequences and no change in his public image. Does our love of getting down to \"Drop It Like It's Hot\" trump the need to stand up against intolerance? If we ever want to live in a world where we truly see each other's humanity, no matter who we love or what gender we were assigned at birth or what color our skin is or what religion we practice, the answer to that question has to be no.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Snoop Dogg does something transphobic...again.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1433378494,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":14,"wordCount":774},"headData":{"title":"Snoop Dogg Calls Caitlyn Jenner A \"Science Project,\" Continues His History of Transphobia | KQED","description":"Snoop Dogg does something transphobic...again.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Snoop Dogg Calls Caitlyn Jenner A \"Science Project,\" Continues His History of Transphobia","datePublished":"2015-06-04T00:41:34.000Z","dateModified":"2015-06-04T00:41:34.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"16575 http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=16575","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2015/06/03/snoop-dogg-calls-caitlyn-jenner-a-science-project-continues-his-history-of-transphobia/","disqusTitle":"Snoop Dogg Calls Caitlyn Jenner A \"Science Project,\" Continues His History of Transphobia","path":"/pop/16575/snoop-dogg-calls-caitlyn-jenner-a-science-project-continues-his-history-of-transphobia","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Snoop Dogg and Napa Valley aren't terms that usually go together, but the pairing made sense this weekend when the rapper made an appearance at BottleRock. Gabe Meline, KQED Arts' music editor, \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2015/06/01/bottlerock-2015-review-now-on-its-feet-a-festival-in-search-of-an-identity/\" target=\"_blank\">was there\u003c/a> and witnessed Snoop good-naturedly rolling sushi with chef Masaharu Morimoto (while making the requisite joint-rolling jokes) and \"uniting 30,000 people in a singalong of love and positivity.\" This is how our culture thinks of Snoop, as a charming, funny and harmless hitmaker. But that reputation isn't entirely deserved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The reception \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2015/06/01/caitlyn-jenner-on-vanity-fair-cover-im-free/\" target=\"_blank\">Caitlyn Jenner\u003c/a> has received this week has been mostly positive, apart from some fringe people who just don't get it. Surely, Snoop, America's Rap Sweetheart, would offer his unconditional support and not say anything awful, right? Yeah, not so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-16580\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2015-06-03-at-5.02.27-PM.png\" alt=\"akon spoon transphobia caitlyn jenner\" width=\"655\" height=\"736\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2015-06-03-at-5.02.27-PM.png 655w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2015-06-03-at-5.02.27-PM-400x449.png 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 655px) 100vw, 655px\">\u003cbr>\nShocked? Well, you shouldn't be. This isn't the first time Snoop has said transphobic or homophobic things on social media. At the beginning of the year, Snoop \u003ca href=\"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901989/Snoop-Dogg-facing-lawsuit-mocking-Instagram-post-sparked-homophobic-bullying-gay-carer.html\" target=\"_blank\">posted a photo\u003c/a> of Cortez Booze on his Instagram along with the question, \"Who's auntcle is this?\" Booze, who works at a care home in Maryland, was then subjected to an onslaught of abuse from Snoop fans. One Instagram user commented: \"That shemale ain't gone win. U get wat u get if u choose to dress how u dress. Consequences for your choices so use some common sense.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-16577\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/2482314E00000578-0-image-a-64_1420726360100.jpg\" alt=\"snoop aunctle transphobic\" width=\"634\" height=\"377\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/2482314E00000578-0-image-a-64_1420726360100.jpg 634w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/2482314E00000578-0-image-a-64_1420726360100-400x238.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few months before that, Snoop posted a photo of two men in bed with the following caption: \"U n ya boyfriend since u like Jumpin on my page disrespectn bitch boy go f*ck ya man n get off my line f.A.G.\" A fan commented: \"Keep it Gangsta Snoop dez F*gs talk tooo much.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-16576\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/enhanced-11861-1410758815-1.png\" alt=\"snoop homophobic instagram\" width=\"625\" height=\"404\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/enhanced-11861-1410758815-1.png 625w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/enhanced-11861-1410758815-1-400x259.png 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People look up to Snoop. If he appears to be denigrating someone because of their gender expression or sexuality, his fans feel as though it's acceptable and take it further. Lots of celebrities use the \"I didn't sign up for being a role model\" excuse, but the reality is that, once you're a notable person, people are following your lead, whether you like it or not. After 23 years in the business, one would think Snoop would know better than this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's curious behavior from someone who claimed to the \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/snoop-lion-on-gay-marriage-reincarnated-diplo-cheaters-/5154394d02a76031b300000c\" target=\"_blank\">Huffington Post\u003c/a>\u003c/em> that he has \"no issues with nobody. I live for me and I live my life doing what I do, so you should have the right to do whatever you want to do.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2013, \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/apr/06/snoop-dogg-lion-interview\" target=\"_blank\">The Guardian\u003c/a>\u003c/em> asked him about whether he thought Frank Ocean's coming out was a sign of progress in terms of acceptance in the rap world. Snoop had this to say: \"Frank Ocean ain't no rapper. He's a singer. It's acceptable in the singing world, but in the rap world I don't know if it will ever be acceptable because rap is so masculine. It's like a football team. You can't be in a locker room full of motherf*cking tough-ass dudes, then all of a sudden say, 'Hey, man, I like you.' You know, that's going to be tough.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So gay men are incapable of being masculine, lust after straight men and cannot control their urges in locker rooms. Got it. Even when he's trying to come across as accepting, he ends up revealing how ignorant he is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, the Snoop Dogg we know is nothing but a caricature crafted by Calvin Cordozar Broadus Jr. And he's not alone: Many rap artists also play up heightened version of themselves. They redefine who they are; they change their names (Snoop Lion, P Diddy, *insert Prince symbol here*, etc.). The rap world deals heavily in the fluid nature of identity, yet, for some reason, some of its members can't find the empathy to understand gender or sexual fluidity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a culture that's become obsessed with public shaming (hi, Justine Sacco!), it's odd that Snoop continues to exhibit homophobic and transphobic attitudes on social media with zero consequences and no change in his public image. Does our love of getting down to \"Drop It Like It's Hot\" trump the need to stand up against intolerance? If we ever want to live in a world where we truly see each other's humanity, no matter who we love or what gender we were assigned at birth or what color our skin is or what religion we practice, the answer to that question has to be no.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/16575/snoop-dogg-calls-caitlyn-jenner-a-science-project-continues-his-history-of-transphobia","authors":["27"],"categories":["pop_1536","pop_1041"],"tags":["pop_213","pop_466"],"featImg":"pop_16584","label":"pop"},"pop_16528":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_16528","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"16528","score":null,"sort":[1433191874000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"caitlyn-jenner-on-vanity-fair-cover-im-free","title":"Caitlyn Jenner on \u003ci>Vanity Fair\u003c/i> Cover: 'I'm Free'","publishDate":1433191874,"format":"aside","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_16550\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-16550\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/b717b777_556c7a214ae56e586e457d37_vf-cover-bruce-jenner-july-2015.xxxlarge_2x-1-800x1123.jpg\" alt=\"Photo: Vanity Fair\" width=\"800\" height=\"1123\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/b717b777_556c7a214ae56e586e457d37_vf-cover-bruce-jenner-july-2015.xxxlarge_2x-1-800x1123.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/b717b777_556c7a214ae56e586e457d37_vf-cover-bruce-jenner-july-2015.xxxlarge_2x-1-400x561.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/b717b777_556c7a214ae56e586e457d37_vf-cover-bruce-jenner-july-2015.xxxlarge_2x-1-960x1347.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2015/06/b717b777_556c7a214ae56e586e457d37_vf-cover-bruce-jenner-july-2015.xxxlarge_2x-1.jpg 1026w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo: Vanity Fair\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Happy Monday, world. Meet Caitlyn Jenner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Following months of whispers and speculation -- and a \u003cem>20/20\u003c/em> interview watched by people who had forgotten \u003cem>20/20\u003c/em> existed -- the Olympic gold medalist formerly known as \u003ca href=\"http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/caitlyn-jenner-bruce-cover-annie-leibovitz\" target=\"_blank\">Bruce Jenner has re-introduced herself as Caitlyn Jenner \u003c/a> in a \u003cem>Vanity Fair \u003c/em>cover story and in-depth interview, featuring a photo spread shot by Annie Liebovitz. The photos are the first to depict Jenner in her new female identity, with loose curls, off-the-shoulder dresses and sequins.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In short: It's the most glamorous, perfectly reality television-oriented coming out we've ever seen. And to borrow a line from the Kardashian lexicon, it's breaking the Internet -- in a good way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While gender pronouns are sometimes a minefield for trans people in transition, Vocativ found that a surprising number of Twitter users buzzing about the story online were already \u003ca href=\"http://www.vocativ.com/news/197531/caitlyn-jenner-is-breaking-the-internet/\" target=\"_blank\">using the correct pronoun\u003c/a>. As of their story's publication, 1,179 tweeters had used “she,” compared to 176 who used “he.\" This is more impressive considering that Bruce Jenner, at the peak of his track and field fame, once represented pure, distilled masculinity to the average American.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, it's yet another celebrity media circus. But if a celebrity media circus is what it takes to push our collective cultural understanding of gender fluidity forward, then so be it. And hey, Caitlyn: Bonus points for looking damn good there in the center ring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Watch Vanity Fair's behind-the-scenes video below:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OwDp2LMVbg\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Olympic gold medalist formerly known as Bruce Jenner re-introduces herself as Caitlyn in a new spread. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1433193725,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":8,"wordCount":276},"headData":{"title":"Caitlyn Jenner on \u003ci>Vanity Fair\u003c/i> Cover: 'I'm Free' | KQED","description":"The Olympic gold medalist formerly known as Bruce Jenner re-introduces herself as Caitlyn in a new spread. 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Meet Caitlyn Jenner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Following months of whispers and speculation -- and a \u003cem>20/20\u003c/em> interview watched by people who had forgotten \u003cem>20/20\u003c/em> existed -- the Olympic gold medalist formerly known as \u003ca href=\"http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/caitlyn-jenner-bruce-cover-annie-leibovitz\" target=\"_blank\">Bruce Jenner has re-introduced herself as Caitlyn Jenner \u003c/a> in a \u003cem>Vanity Fair \u003c/em>cover story and in-depth interview, featuring a photo spread shot by Annie Liebovitz. The photos are the first to depict Jenner in her new female identity, with loose curls, off-the-shoulder dresses and sequins.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In short: It's the most glamorous, perfectly reality television-oriented coming out we've ever seen. And to borrow a line from the Kardashian lexicon, it's breaking the Internet -- in a good way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While gender pronouns are sometimes a minefield for trans people in transition, Vocativ found that a surprising number of Twitter users buzzing about the story online were already \u003ca href=\"http://www.vocativ.com/news/197531/caitlyn-jenner-is-breaking-the-internet/\" target=\"_blank\">using the correct pronoun\u003c/a>. As of their story's publication, 1,179 tweeters had used “she,” compared to 176 who used “he.\" This is more impressive considering that Bruce Jenner, at the peak of his track and field fame, once represented pure, distilled masculinity to the average American.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, it's yet another celebrity media circus. But if a celebrity media circus is what it takes to push our collective cultural understanding of gender fluidity forward, then so be it. And hey, Caitlyn: Bonus points for looking damn good there in the center ring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Watch Vanity Fair's behind-the-scenes video below:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/0OwDp2LMVbg'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/0OwDp2LMVbg'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/16528/caitlyn-jenner-on-vanity-fair-cover-im-free","authors":["7237"],"categories":["pop_7"],"tags":["pop_213"],"featImg":"pop_16551","label":"pop"},"pop_4121":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_4121","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"4121","score":null,"sort":[1366821116000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us","title":"Celebrity Schadenfreude: What Us Weekly Says About Us","publishDate":1366821116,"format":"aside","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">\u003cem>\u003cstrong>Schadenfreude\u003c/strong>\u003c/em> is a deliciously German word which means ‘taking pleasure in the misfortune of others’, of which, surprisingly, there is no English translation. This is truly surprising given the amount of time we Americans spend taking great pleasure in all the pitfalls of our anointed celebrities. Picture Britney Spears: we grin sadistically when the pictures of her bald meltdown surface, even though it was our original interest in her pop career that made her millions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4127\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-a/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4127\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4127\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-a-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"We all live for the moment when the Fashion Police are called \" width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">We all live for the moment when the Fashion Police are called\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This is what \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em> was made for. It was created for our own entertainment at the expense of those who unfairly take up so much of our headspace. That, and escapist fantasies of the rich and famous. Strangely, a while ago someone signed me up for a free subscription to \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Shape\u003c/em>, and \u003cem>Glamour\u003c/em>. I have no idea who it was, but I suspect my sister or my mom. They pour out of my mailbox and fill me with revulsion with their baby pics, teen trends, and beach bodies. I pull them out of the mail pile and throw them face down on the floor like I am going to catch a disease from them. Dumbness disease. This whole time I’ve been receiving the \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em>s for free, I have never actually read one. I worry mostly about my attention-span and my list of things to do. \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em> has been designed to keep you utterly enthralled in idiotic un-news from cover-to-cover, and then has the audacity to show up every week in your mailbox, retraining your brain to think of the things you’ve just mentally encrypted as interesting into yesterday’s news, and you start the whole obsessive process over again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4129\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 217px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/1364373919737-cached-2/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4129\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4129\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/1364373919737.cached1-217x300.jpg\" alt=\"Last week's issue- Gotta keep up!!\" width=\"217\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Last week's issue- Gotta keep up!!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While I have flipped through a few pages before, as I attempt to really examine my first issue, I thought we might take this uncharted journey into celebrity hate-love-love-to-hate of \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em> together, and try to study this specimen as dedicated explorers to see just what these pages really say about us as a culture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4130\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 382px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-b/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4130\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4130\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-b.jpg\" alt=\"us b\" width=\"382\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-b.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-b-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 382px) 100vw, 382px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The issue we're exploring is already outdated\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">My god, the cover is a real juicy one. Kim K and her enormous boobs just overflowing out of that spandex dress, (that you later learn is loaned from the fat sister), and the tiny British princess, Kate, eaking out her pregnancy ever-so-daintily and covered in plaid like a tartan doily. The main headline is in yellow all caps (a sign of serious importance): \u003cstrong>BABY WEIGHT BATTLES\u003c/strong>, second line: TOO THIN? TOO FAT? It makes you immediately wonder if they are battling each other. Then you think, “Yeah, baby battle! Fight, you fame-hungry whores!” Then the subtext grabs at your empathy: “Both six months pregnant, Kate & Kim are constantly bullied and judged. Inside their support systems and how they fight back.” Just who is actually bullying them and advertising their weight “problems”? If pictures like these weren’t published, neither of them would be “fighting back!” The magazine is simultaneously broadcasting their shame and tsking that darn media for creating these dramas. But then...if it wasn’t news to you, the magazine wouldn’t exist because they wouldn’t sell any issues, so inadvertently, we are to blame. Crap!\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4131\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-e/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4131\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4131\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-e-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"I love the images where the magazine completely ignores when a celebrity is so clearly annoyed we are looking at them to talk about their pecs.\" width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">I love when the magazine completely ignores a celebrity being so clearly annoyed we are looking at them, to talk about their pecs.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The next part is “\u003cstrong>Who Wore it Best?\u003c/strong>” with the percentages tallied of a vote which supposedly happened regarding two similar ensembles on different celebrities. My hunch says it’s unhappy teens and moms on sudafed who are doing the voting online. Examining the winner and loser of the same-outfit-OMG-I-wanna-die contest says a lot more about our expectations of our fantasies than it does about who really looked better. Let’s take the easy one: Kris Jenner, (easily 50s +, Kim K’s mom, mega-millionaire media hound), vs Blake Lively, (known on-screen as the super stylish babe on \u003cem>Gossip Girl\u003c/em>, young and hot, hasn’t done anything scarring to her image in recent memory). The answer: 10% for Kris, 90% for Blake. Duh! This tells us about the avatars we live vicariously through as we look at famous people: We are a youth-obsessed culture, being thin and trim is an important sign of youth, and WE want to be likable- not media hungry and desperate. We \u003cem>love to hate\u003c/em> the media hungry and desperate. What I mean is that when we favor one of them, it’s because they embody something we wish we were, not because they looked ‘better.’\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4132\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 335px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-c/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4132\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4132\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-c.jpg\" alt=\"us c\" width=\"335\" height=\"448\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-c.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-c-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 335px) 100vw, 335px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">You're picking out yourself, not their outfit.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">And what do I mean by ‘\u003cem>we\u003cstrong>’\u003c/strong>\u003c/em> anyway? I don’t mean absolutely everybody- not your dad unless he’s reading it in the bathroom. Let’s examine the demographic of the magazine by looking at the ads and who they are targeting. That is the ‘we,’ and you and I are in it because somehow we picked up this copy. There are ads for quintessentially mainstream foods like Ritz crackers, Orbit gum, and Lunchables. This, plus the Honda and pet food ads, means they are targeting middle income families. And while people in places like San Francisco might find themselves eating Ritz crackers on accident, most over-educated foodie jerks in cities are making their own wheat thins rather than buying anything processed. (More on that in another post). So the ‘we’ are women in suburban neighborhoods with enough time, boredom and dispensable income on their hands to flip through the fantasy lives of others on a whim.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4134\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-m/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4134\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4134\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-m-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"us m\" width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This one is just weird- what the hell is an 'e' cigarette, and has Stephen Dorff's career really not taken off at all since that Sophia Coppola movie?\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">You know what else is advertised to death in this magazine? Baby products. Holy hell, there must be millions of moms just dying to dare to dream of having that immaculate Cuban romance that Jay Z just whisked Beyonce away on, (we even learn what the two ate for dinner), while they are lugging around screaming brats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4135\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 382px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-j/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4135\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4135 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-j.jpg\" alt=\"Do you really need to know that she had the chicken?\" width=\"382\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-j.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-j-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 382px) 100vw, 382px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Do you \u003cem>really\u003c/em> need to know that she had the chicken?\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">Every other ad is for a diaper, or in one case, permanent birth control! Moms are the real demographic here, or why else would we care at all about all these mundane baby pics. My god! Who cares that Hilary Duff thinks her one-year-old is “so funny”? Moms who think their babies are “so hilarious,” too- that's who.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4133\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-i/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4133\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4133\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-i-300x224.jpg\" alt=\"Like it's hard to read how they are promoting products for babies right next to celebrity babies! Don't you want one now?\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Like it's hard to read how they are promoting products for babies right next to celebrity babies! Don't you want one now? Better get Huggies for it!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4137\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 335px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-n/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4137\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4137 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-n.jpg\" alt=\"How about permanent birth control? It's almost like sterilization!\" width=\"335\" height=\"448\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-n.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-n-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 335px) 100vw, 335px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">How about permanent birth control? It's almost like sterilization!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Or worse, we’re supposed to care enough about stars’ pets to be able to name them in a quiz? Really!? What this says is that we are rewarded by subscribing so devoutly to this deluge of “interesting” tidbits that readers can actually gratuitously pat themselves on the back for knowing the stars so well. It’s almost like you are one! OMG!\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4136\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 448px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-f/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4136\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4136 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-f.jpg\" alt=\"Don't have a baby? They know a pet is practically a baby, so here, buy cat litter just like a star!\" width=\"448\" height=\"335\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-f.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-f-400x298.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 448px) 100vw, 448px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Don't have a baby? They know a pet is practically a baby, so here, buy cat litter just like a star!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Let’s talk about the fat thing. Yes, by comparison, actors and fashion models make us feel fat and so we hate them. Yet we wouldn’t accept anything less than perfection from them. Picture the humiliation of Kirsty Alley as she grew bigger and bigger and couldn’t get roles in anything anymore except for her own self-depricating show, \u003cem>Fat Actress\u003c/em> and then that tanked, too. Oh Kirsty. We don’t want to see a fat woman in the lead romantic role. That is, again, where our fantasy selves go, and our fantasy selves are hot. As impossible as the standards we set for celebrities are, the more eagerly we live to see their defeat because the window we gave them is too small on purpose. Jessica Simpson’s chipmunk cheeks: Oh, the horror! And the glee!\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4138\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-d/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4138\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4138 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-d-224x300.jpg\" alt='\"Just keep it up, fatty!\", we drool with delight.' width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">\"Just keep it up, fatty!\" we drool with delight.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4140\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 382px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-k/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4140\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4140 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-k.jpg\" alt=\"They call these women 'beautiful' in this spread, but they really know we are dying to pick apart what pregnancy can do to someone like Penelope Cruz.\" width=\"382\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-k.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-k-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 382px) 100vw, 382px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">They call these women 'beautiful' in this spread, but they really know we are dying to pick apart what pregnancy can do to someone like Penelope Cruz.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>So when we look at articles like, “\u003cstrong>4 Ways to Spring Clean Your Workout: Wipe the slate and steal stars’ fitness tips!\u003c/strong>”, we are gently manipulated into falling into our own small window of hotness parameters we gave the stars. “Yeah! I’ll steal your secrets and be just as hot and then I’ll laugh even harder when you fail as an actress someday!” We’re encouraged to plan a girls’ trip like Reese Witherspoon, Drew Barrymore, and Cameron Diaz did at Bikini Bootcamp. First of all, even though Reese and Drew might look a little round, it’s only the photo comparisons to rock hard athletes like Diaz who make us even see them that way. Second, they have trainers, year round, plus money for a meal-planner and personal chef. Then there’s the fact that they have to look good or they will get fired. If you were going to get fired for having a muffin top, you’d lose it real quick. You can squeeze your thighs in and out as you read this and buy the yoga outfit the stars all wear to make yourself feel better about the fact that YOU are essentially the one who would be firing them by not seeing their movies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4139\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 518px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-l/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4139\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4139 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-l.jpg\" alt=\"Now after you're done eating like the stars, make sure to buy some terrible-tasting diet hippy pasta!\" width=\"518\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-l.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-l-400x298.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 518px) 100vw, 518px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Now after you're done eating like the stars, make sure to buy some terrible-tasting diet hippy pasta!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Oh geez, we just hit the tip of the iceberg but it’s time to end our explorer mission for the day. I could write an entire column about this magazine. One last thing we must talk about: A red circle splashed on the page with all-caps letters again: “\u003cstrong>STARS- THEY’RE JUST LIKE US!\u003c/strong>” This is like the Cadillac of \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em> pages because it is at once so ridiculous and yet the most consuming. Why? Why do we \u003cem>want\u003c/em> them to be like us? Is it so that we feel more on the same level with the mega-human we created and by that token have just elevated our own status? Or is it the reverse- \"If Tom Cruise can drink a Guinness he’s really no better than my drunk uncle Charlie”?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4141\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-h/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4141\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4141\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-h-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"Look at Tom's pained expression, counting those calories.\" width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look at Tom's pained expression, counting those calories.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">And everything has so many exclamation points! \"They Tie Their Laces!\" We know these are pictures from sub-human cretin paparazzi photographers, and are one of two things: promotional shots for stars’ businesses, or embarrassing moments snared into digital cameras for our future glee. Gerard Depardieu: barely a notable figure in American stardom but fleeing a D.U.I. charge! Golden schadenfreude moment in the subtext below he “rides in a minivan cab!” just like us!!!\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4142\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 518px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-g/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4142\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4142 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-g.jpg\" alt=\"Tori doesn't eat burgers. I can tell you that because I read it in Shape magazine.\" width=\"518\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-g.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-g-400x298.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 518px) 100vw, 518px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tori doesn't eat burgers. I can tell you that because I read it in \u003cem>Shape\u003c/em> magazine. Sometimes she eats sushi with rice because \"you have to let yourself live a little!\"\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-size: 13px\">I can’t help but feel someone is condescending to me as I read this page. I’m sure it’s tongue-in-cheek, and perhaps the whole magazine is, really. It’s not made by one person in their living room, after all. This is a mega-business, run by an entire crack team of people to steal your attention and take your money, capitalizing on your desire for runination. But remember what I said before, it’s not really the magazine’s fault for being so stupid. It’s our own, for wanting it to be this way and forking out $4.49 for new un-news every week.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Let's explore the pages of Us Weekly together to see what the shockingly juicy celebrity train wreck footage says about ourselves.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1552196578,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":10,"wordCount":2097},"headData":{"title":"Celebrity Schadenfreude: What Us Weekly Says About Us | KQED","description":"Let's explore the pages of Us Weekly together to see what the shockingly juicy celebrity train wreck footage says about ourselves.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Celebrity Schadenfreude: What Us Weekly Says About Us","datePublished":"2013-04-24T16:31:56.000Z","dateModified":"2019-03-10T05:42:58.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"4121 http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/?p=4121","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/","disqusTitle":"Celebrity Schadenfreude: What Us Weekly Says About Us","path":"/pop/4121/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">\u003cem>\u003cstrong>Schadenfreude\u003c/strong>\u003c/em> is a deliciously German word which means ‘taking pleasure in the misfortune of others’, of which, surprisingly, there is no English translation. This is truly surprising given the amount of time we Americans spend taking great pleasure in all the pitfalls of our anointed celebrities. Picture Britney Spears: we grin sadistically when the pictures of her bald meltdown surface, even though it was our original interest in her pop career that made her millions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4127\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-a/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4127\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4127\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-a-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"We all live for the moment when the Fashion Police are called \" width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">We all live for the moment when the Fashion Police are called\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This is what \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em> was made for. It was created for our own entertainment at the expense of those who unfairly take up so much of our headspace. That, and escapist fantasies of the rich and famous. Strangely, a while ago someone signed me up for a free subscription to \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Shape\u003c/em>, and \u003cem>Glamour\u003c/em>. I have no idea who it was, but I suspect my sister or my mom. They pour out of my mailbox and fill me with revulsion with their baby pics, teen trends, and beach bodies. I pull them out of the mail pile and throw them face down on the floor like I am going to catch a disease from them. Dumbness disease. This whole time I’ve been receiving the \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em>s for free, I have never actually read one. I worry mostly about my attention-span and my list of things to do. \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em> has been designed to keep you utterly enthralled in idiotic un-news from cover-to-cover, and then has the audacity to show up every week in your mailbox, retraining your brain to think of the things you’ve just mentally encrypted as interesting into yesterday’s news, and you start the whole obsessive process over again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4129\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 217px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/1364373919737-cached-2/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4129\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4129\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/1364373919737.cached1-217x300.jpg\" alt=\"Last week's issue- Gotta keep up!!\" width=\"217\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Last week's issue- Gotta keep up!!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While I have flipped through a few pages before, as I attempt to really examine my first issue, I thought we might take this uncharted journey into celebrity hate-love-love-to-hate of \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em> together, and try to study this specimen as dedicated explorers to see just what these pages really say about us as a culture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4130\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 382px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-b/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4130\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4130\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-b.jpg\" alt=\"us b\" width=\"382\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-b.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-b-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 382px) 100vw, 382px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The issue we're exploring is already outdated\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">My god, the cover is a real juicy one. Kim K and her enormous boobs just overflowing out of that spandex dress, (that you later learn is loaned from the fat sister), and the tiny British princess, Kate, eaking out her pregnancy ever-so-daintily and covered in plaid like a tartan doily. The main headline is in yellow all caps (a sign of serious importance): \u003cstrong>BABY WEIGHT BATTLES\u003c/strong>, second line: TOO THIN? TOO FAT? It makes you immediately wonder if they are battling each other. Then you think, “Yeah, baby battle! Fight, you fame-hungry whores!” Then the subtext grabs at your empathy: “Both six months pregnant, Kate & Kim are constantly bullied and judged. Inside their support systems and how they fight back.” Just who is actually bullying them and advertising their weight “problems”? If pictures like these weren’t published, neither of them would be “fighting back!” The magazine is simultaneously broadcasting their shame and tsking that darn media for creating these dramas. But then...if it wasn’t news to you, the magazine wouldn’t exist because they wouldn’t sell any issues, so inadvertently, we are to blame. Crap!\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4131\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-e/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4131\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4131\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-e-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"I love the images where the magazine completely ignores when a celebrity is so clearly annoyed we are looking at them to talk about their pecs.\" width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">I love when the magazine completely ignores a celebrity being so clearly annoyed we are looking at them, to talk about their pecs.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The next part is “\u003cstrong>Who Wore it Best?\u003c/strong>” with the percentages tallied of a vote which supposedly happened regarding two similar ensembles on different celebrities. My hunch says it’s unhappy teens and moms on sudafed who are doing the voting online. Examining the winner and loser of the same-outfit-OMG-I-wanna-die contest says a lot more about our expectations of our fantasies than it does about who really looked better. Let’s take the easy one: Kris Jenner, (easily 50s +, Kim K’s mom, mega-millionaire media hound), vs Blake Lively, (known on-screen as the super stylish babe on \u003cem>Gossip Girl\u003c/em>, young and hot, hasn’t done anything scarring to her image in recent memory). The answer: 10% for Kris, 90% for Blake. Duh! This tells us about the avatars we live vicariously through as we look at famous people: We are a youth-obsessed culture, being thin and trim is an important sign of youth, and WE want to be likable- not media hungry and desperate. We \u003cem>love to hate\u003c/em> the media hungry and desperate. What I mean is that when we favor one of them, it’s because they embody something we wish we were, not because they looked ‘better.’\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4132\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 335px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-c/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4132\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4132\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-c.jpg\" alt=\"us c\" width=\"335\" height=\"448\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-c.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-c-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 335px) 100vw, 335px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">You're picking out yourself, not their outfit.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">And what do I mean by ‘\u003cem>we\u003cstrong>’\u003c/strong>\u003c/em> anyway? I don’t mean absolutely everybody- not your dad unless he’s reading it in the bathroom. Let’s examine the demographic of the magazine by looking at the ads and who they are targeting. That is the ‘we,’ and you and I are in it because somehow we picked up this copy. There are ads for quintessentially mainstream foods like Ritz crackers, Orbit gum, and Lunchables. This, plus the Honda and pet food ads, means they are targeting middle income families. And while people in places like San Francisco might find themselves eating Ritz crackers on accident, most over-educated foodie jerks in cities are making their own wheat thins rather than buying anything processed. (More on that in another post). So the ‘we’ are women in suburban neighborhoods with enough time, boredom and dispensable income on their hands to flip through the fantasy lives of others on a whim.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4134\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-m/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4134\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4134\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-m-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"us m\" width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This one is just weird- what the hell is an 'e' cigarette, and has Stephen Dorff's career really not taken off at all since that Sophia Coppola movie?\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">You know what else is advertised to death in this magazine? Baby products. Holy hell, there must be millions of moms just dying to dare to dream of having that immaculate Cuban romance that Jay Z just whisked Beyonce away on, (we even learn what the two ate for dinner), while they are lugging around screaming brats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4135\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 382px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-j/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4135\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4135 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-j.jpg\" alt=\"Do you really need to know that she had the chicken?\" width=\"382\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-j.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-j-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 382px) 100vw, 382px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Do you \u003cem>really\u003c/em> need to know that she had the chicken?\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">Every other ad is for a diaper, or in one case, permanent birth control! Moms are the real demographic here, or why else would we care at all about all these mundane baby pics. My god! Who cares that Hilary Duff thinks her one-year-old is “so funny”? Moms who think their babies are “so hilarious,” too- that's who.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4133\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-i/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4133\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4133\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-i-300x224.jpg\" alt=\"Like it's hard to read how they are promoting products for babies right next to celebrity babies! Don't you want one now?\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Like it's hard to read how they are promoting products for babies right next to celebrity babies! Don't you want one now? Better get Huggies for it!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4137\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 335px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-n/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4137\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4137 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-n.jpg\" alt=\"How about permanent birth control? It's almost like sterilization!\" width=\"335\" height=\"448\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-n.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-n-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 335px) 100vw, 335px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">How about permanent birth control? It's almost like sterilization!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Or worse, we’re supposed to care enough about stars’ pets to be able to name them in a quiz? Really!? What this says is that we are rewarded by subscribing so devoutly to this deluge of “interesting” tidbits that readers can actually gratuitously pat themselves on the back for knowing the stars so well. It’s almost like you are one! OMG!\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4136\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 448px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-f/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4136\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4136 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-f.jpg\" alt=\"Don't have a baby? They know a pet is practically a baby, so here, buy cat litter just like a star!\" width=\"448\" height=\"335\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-f.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-f-400x298.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 448px) 100vw, 448px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Don't have a baby? They know a pet is practically a baby, so here, buy cat litter just like a star!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Let’s talk about the fat thing. Yes, by comparison, actors and fashion models make us feel fat and so we hate them. Yet we wouldn’t accept anything less than perfection from them. Picture the humiliation of Kirsty Alley as she grew bigger and bigger and couldn’t get roles in anything anymore except for her own self-depricating show, \u003cem>Fat Actress\u003c/em> and then that tanked, too. Oh Kirsty. We don’t want to see a fat woman in the lead romantic role. That is, again, where our fantasy selves go, and our fantasy selves are hot. As impossible as the standards we set for celebrities are, the more eagerly we live to see their defeat because the window we gave them is too small on purpose. Jessica Simpson’s chipmunk cheeks: Oh, the horror! And the glee!\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4138\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-d/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4138\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4138 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-d-224x300.jpg\" alt='\"Just keep it up, fatty!\", we drool with delight.' width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">\"Just keep it up, fatty!\" we drool with delight.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4140\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 382px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-k/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4140\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4140 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-k.jpg\" alt=\"They call these women 'beautiful' in this spread, but they really know we are dying to pick apart what pregnancy can do to someone like Penelope Cruz.\" width=\"382\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-k.jpg 478w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-k-400x535.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 382px) 100vw, 382px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">They call these women 'beautiful' in this spread, but they really know we are dying to pick apart what pregnancy can do to someone like Penelope Cruz.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>So when we look at articles like, “\u003cstrong>4 Ways to Spring Clean Your Workout: Wipe the slate and steal stars’ fitness tips!\u003c/strong>”, we are gently manipulated into falling into our own small window of hotness parameters we gave the stars. “Yeah! I’ll steal your secrets and be just as hot and then I’ll laugh even harder when you fail as an actress someday!” We’re encouraged to plan a girls’ trip like Reese Witherspoon, Drew Barrymore, and Cameron Diaz did at Bikini Bootcamp. First of all, even though Reese and Drew might look a little round, it’s only the photo comparisons to rock hard athletes like Diaz who make us even see them that way. Second, they have trainers, year round, plus money for a meal-planner and personal chef. Then there’s the fact that they have to look good or they will get fired. If you were going to get fired for having a muffin top, you’d lose it real quick. You can squeeze your thighs in and out as you read this and buy the yoga outfit the stars all wear to make yourself feel better about the fact that YOU are essentially the one who would be firing them by not seeing their movies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4139\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 518px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-l/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4139\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4139 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-l.jpg\" alt=\"Now after you're done eating like the stars, make sure to buy some terrible-tasting diet hippy pasta!\" width=\"518\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-l.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-l-400x298.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 518px) 100vw, 518px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Now after you're done eating like the stars, make sure to buy some terrible-tasting diet hippy pasta!\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Oh geez, we just hit the tip of the iceberg but it’s time to end our explorer mission for the day. I could write an entire column about this magazine. One last thing we must talk about: A red circle splashed on the page with all-caps letters again: “\u003cstrong>STARS- THEY’RE JUST LIKE US!\u003c/strong>” This is like the Cadillac of \u003cem>Us Weekly\u003c/em> pages because it is at once so ridiculous and yet the most consuming. Why? Why do we \u003cem>want\u003c/em> them to be like us? Is it so that we feel more on the same level with the mega-human we created and by that token have just elevated our own status? Or is it the reverse- \"If Tom Cruise can drink a Guinness he’s really no better than my drunk uncle Charlie”?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4141\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 224px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-h/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4141\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-4141\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-h-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"Look at Tom's pained expression, counting those calories.\" width=\"224\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look at Tom's pained expression, counting those calories.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">And everything has so many exclamation points! \"They Tie Their Laces!\" We know these are pictures from sub-human cretin paparazzi photographers, and are one of two things: promotional shots for stars’ businesses, or embarrassing moments snared into digital cameras for our future glee. Gerard Depardieu: barely a notable figure in American stardom but fleeing a D.U.I. charge! Golden schadenfreude moment in the subtext below he “rides in a minivan cab!” just like us!!!\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_4142\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 518px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/24/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us/us-g/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4142\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-4142 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-g.jpg\" alt=\"Tori doesn't eat burgers. I can tell you that because I read it in Shape magazine.\" width=\"518\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-g.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/us-g-400x298.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 518px) 100vw, 518px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tori doesn't eat burgers. I can tell you that because I read it in \u003cem>Shape\u003c/em> magazine. Sometimes she eats sushi with rice because \"you have to let yourself live a little!\"\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-size: 13px\">I can’t help but feel someone is condescending to me as I read this page. I’m sure it’s tongue-in-cheek, and perhaps the whole magazine is, really. It’s not made by one person in their living room, after all. This is a mega-business, run by an entire crack team of people to steal your attention and take your money, capitalizing on your desire for runination. But remember what I said before, it’s not really the magazine’s fault for being so stupid. It’s our own, for wanting it to be this way and forking out $4.49 for new un-news every week.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/4121/celebrity-schadenfreude-what-us-weekly-says-about-us","authors":["2418"],"categories":["pop_7","pop_56"],"tags":["pop_465","pop_276","pop_653","pop_657","pop_652","pop_320","pop_660","pop_213","pop_656","pop_659","pop_658","pop_654","pop_655"],"featImg":"pop_4158","label":"pop"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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