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And to uproot, sell everything and move back to your home country, within two months. For any human, any individual, it's hard.'[/pullquote]An unemployed H-1B visa holder has to find a new employer, or “sponsor,” within 60 days, or leave the country. Thousands of Bay Area tech and biotech workers have surged onto sites like LinkedIn, frantically looking for friendly faces, like 36-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/vidhiagrawal/\">Vidhi Agrawal\u003c/a> of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An H-1B visa holder herself, Agrawal works at the San Francisco software company Databricks. She and a friend have been running an informal database linking H-1B visa holders with prospective employers. In the last two weeks, the off-hours project has exploded from roughly 50 friends and acquaintances to over 500 people nationwide. She’s also in contact with about 100 hiring managers and recruiters from multiple companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a sudden thing that happens, and you have family, you have kids here, who’ve grown up here,” said Agrawal. “And to uproot, sell everything and move back to your home country, within two months. For any human, any individual, it’s hard.” To make matters worse, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11913665/200000-documented-dreamers-are-literally-waiting-a-lifetime-for-a-green-card\">many Indian H-1B holders are in a years-long queue to get a green card\u003c/a>, and leaving the country is tantamount to letting go of a huge investment of time and patience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Agrawal added that H-1B visa workers are always particularly vulnerable to layoffs. “We did sign up for this. When we come on work visas, we know what we’re signing up for. It’s not, like, things have changed on us,” she said.[aside postID=\"news_11913665,news_11931311,forum_2010101891200\" label=\"Related Posts\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the very least, \u003ca href=\"https://www.immihelp.com/h-1b-visa-layoff-and-60-days-grace-period/\">employers are required to notify federal immigration authorities and cover the cost of a plane flight back to the home country\u003c/a> when they lay off H-1B workers. Many companies, however, offer more support than that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Remarking on the mass layoffs at Meta, \u003ca href=\"https://about.fb.com/news/2022/11/mark-zuckerberg-layoff-message-to-employees/\">Mark Zuckerberg, for instance, wrote\u003c/a>, “I know this is especially difficult if you’re here on a visa. There’s a notice period before termination and some visa grace periods, which means everyone will have time to make plans and work through their immigration status. We have dedicated immigration specialists to help guide you based on what you and your family need.” Private attorneys, of course, are eager to help for a fee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-on-our-team\">Lyft\u003c/a> offers those on visas \u003ca href=\"https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-on-our-team\">the option to extend employment (with no expectation to work)\u003c/a> for an additional eight weeks in lieu of eight weeks of severance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That's a huge benefit, because it means they have a greater time runway,” said Sophie Alcorn, who runs \u003ca href=\"https://www.alcorn.law/\">Alcorn Immigration Law\u003c/a> in Mountain View and writes about immigration for \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/07/dear-sophie-how-can-i-stay-in-the-us-if-ive-been-laid-off/\">TechCrunch\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of the laid-off tech workers have plenty of savings. They could find another job eventually. But getting through the holiday season with Thanksgiving just now and the December holidays, plus the hiring freezes, it's going to be really hard to get an offer within the 60-day grace period that would allow the future employer to have enough prep time to do the three to four weeks of work that it takes to get an H-1B ready for filing with the government,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of people familiar with American immigration law say the 60-day grace period doesn't accurately reflect the panic many workers and their families are in right now because of the paperwork involved in transitioning to a new job. “There's a whole prefiling subcomponent with a totally different government agency besides USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) and the Department of Homeland Security,” Alcorn explained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You have to get a certified labor condition application approved with the Department of Labor. Plus, many of the companies that have the funds to hire right now are early stage tech companies who listen to their venture capitalists and preserve their cash. So now they can hire, which is great. But if they're new to the immigration process, getting set up as a petitioning employer takes additional time. So I've been advising people to try to get interviews as soon as possible and, if at all possible, try to accept an offer before the end of the first month of the H-1B grace period.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been lucky, for the most part,” said 39-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/gutgutia/\">Abhishek Gutgutia\u003c/a> of San José. “Companies I’ve worked with have been wonderful. But there are definitely companies out there who take advantage of immigrant workers, H1-B workers, because they are afraid of losing status, or they just don’t know, and that’s not OK.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gutgutia arrived in the U.S. in 2012 to get his MBA. After graduation, he got an H-1B, then transitioned to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/employment-based-immigration-first-preference-eb-1\">EB1-A\u003c/a>, and got a green card after 10 years of waiting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The entrepreneur saw the mass layoffs as an opportunity to start a new company, \u003ca href=\"http://www.gozeno.io/\">Zeno\u003c/a>, which he characterizes as TurboTax for DIY-minded immigrants. “I’ve been on H-1B visa in the past,” said Gutgutia. “So I know the pain points all too well, which also inspired me to start this venture.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is there any chance of a fix, even a temporary one, in Washington D.C.? Alcorn says she’s talking about it with lawmakers and professional associations. “We're putting together a coalition to request executive action to temporarily extend the 60-day grace period for this group of people to 180 days, so that there's more time runway to stay in the country and look for other jobs, or self-petition green cards or, without illegally working, create a funded start-up that could then be their employer in the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Mass layoffs have pitched thousands of Bay Area H-1B visa holders into a desperate search to find another employer, or 'sponsor,' within 60 days before they're required to self-deport. 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But getting through the holiday season with Thanksgiving just now and the December holidays, plus the hiring freezes, it's going to be really hard to get an offer within the 60-day grace period that would allow the future employer to have enough prep time to do the three to four weeks of work that it takes to get an H-1B ready for filing with the government,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of people familiar with American immigration law say the 60-day grace period doesn't accurately reflect the panic many workers and their families are in right now because of the paperwork involved in transitioning to a new job. “There's a whole prefiling subcomponent with a totally different government agency besides USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) and the Department of Homeland Security,” Alcorn explained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You have to get a certified labor condition application approved with the Department of Labor. Plus, many of the companies that have the funds to hire right now are early stage tech companies who listen to their venture capitalists and preserve their cash. So now they can hire, which is great. But if they're new to the immigration process, getting set up as a petitioning employer takes additional time. So I've been advising people to try to get interviews as soon as possible and, if at all possible, try to accept an offer before the end of the first month of the H-1B grace period.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been lucky, for the most part,” said 39-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/gutgutia/\">Abhishek Gutgutia\u003c/a> of San José. “Companies I’ve worked with have been wonderful. But there are definitely companies out there who take advantage of immigrant workers, H1-B workers, because they are afraid of losing status, or they just don’t know, and that’s not OK.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gutgutia arrived in the U.S. in 2012 to get his MBA. After graduation, he got an H-1B, then transitioned to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/employment-based-immigration-first-preference-eb-1\">EB1-A\u003c/a>, and got a green card after 10 years of waiting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The entrepreneur saw the mass layoffs as an opportunity to start a new company, \u003ca href=\"http://www.gozeno.io/\">Zeno\u003c/a>, which he characterizes as TurboTax for DIY-minded immigrants. “I’ve been on H-1B visa in the past,” said Gutgutia. “So I know the pain points all too well, which also inspired me to start this venture.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is there any chance of a fix, even a temporary one, in Washington D.C.? 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A trial is scheduled to begin in less than two weeks. It’s now up to the company to accept Musk’s renewed offer or force the billionaire to go to court in an effort to seal the deal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Representatives for Musk and Twitter didn’t respond to requests for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A tumultuous courtship Twitter never sought\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Musk and Twitter have been at odds almost since Musk first revealed his interest in the company in early April. In the course of just a few months, Musk went from being Twitter’s largest individual shareholder to would-be board member to unsolicited bidder to unwilling buyer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter, which never put itself up for sale in the first place, found itself in the awkward position of trying to force Musk to buy it, even as it acknowledged the specter of his ownership was causing disruption to its already \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/23/1094324614/twitter-elon-musk-old-problems\">struggling business\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"elon-musk\"]Along the way, Musk has used his Twitter account – which now boasts nearly 108 million followers – to mock the company, critique its products, attack its executives and keep the world guessing about what he’d do next.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The billionaire began buying Twitter shares in January. By spring, he’d become its biggest individual shareholder, but delayed notifying regulators or the public until early April. At that point, he told Twitter he saw three options: join its board, buy the company and take it private, or start a competing social network, according to Twitter’s lawsuit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After accepting and then reneging an invitation to \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/11/1091969075/elon-musk-will-not-join-twitter-board\">join the company’s board\u003c/a>, Musk made an unsolicited offer to buy Twitter for $54.20 a share, or about $44 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter initially resisted, adopting a so-called \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/19/1093408513/twitter-elon-musk-explainer-investors-shareholders\">“poison pill”\u003c/a> to slow down Musk’s advances and give the board and management time to evaluate his offer against other prospects. Musk started tweeting veiled references to making a tender offer directly to Twitter shareholders to get his way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, Twitter \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/25/1094604406/twitter-elon-musk-deal\">agreed to sell\u003c/a> to Musk in late April. The company and Musk signed a deal in which Musk waived any further due diligence, pledged tens of billions of his own money, and promised not to use his Twitter megaphone to disparage the company. The deal included another important protection for Twitter: it said if Musk tried to back out, with few exceptions, the company could take him to court to force him to complete the purchase.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Musk’s change-of-heart led to high-stakes legal battle, with trial scheduled for this month\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The ink was barely dry on the agreement when Musk began suggesting he had cold feet. When he struck the deal, he said one of his goals in owning Twitter was to clean up its longstanding problems with spam and automated bot accounts. Soon, he began saying he didn’t want to buy Twitter \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/05/13/1098741154/elon-musk-twitter-deal-hold-pause\">because of the bots\u003c/a> – and accused the company of misleading him and the public about the scale of the problem. (Twitter has for years said it estimates about 5% of daily users are not real people.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In early July, he announced he was \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110539504/twitter-elon-musk-deal-jeopardy\">terminating the deal\u003c/a>, citing his concerns over Twitter’s user numbers and his allegations that Twitter deceived him. Twitter hit back two days later with a \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/07/12/1111032233/elon-musk-twitter-lawsuit-deal\">lawsuit\u003c/a> seeking to hold Musk to the terms of the sale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter accused Musk of suffering from buyer’s remorse, noting that the stock market rout since the deal was signed made the price Musk had agreed to pay look high and dented the value of his \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/26/1094870412/tesla-shares-sink-twitter-elon-musk\">Tesla stake\u003c/a> – his primary source of wealth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company argued Musk’s claims about bots were irrelevant to the question of whether he broke the legal agreement, which made no mention of how many accounts on Twitter aren’t real.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indeed, Musk amended his legal argument in August, after Twitter’s former security chief filed a federal complaint contending Twitter was putting users’ privacy and sensitive company information at risk through lax security practices. (Twitter has called the allegations inaccurate, inconsistent and opportunistic.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Musk’s reversal comes after an unusually eventful discovery phase of the case, in which attorneys for both sides filed more than a hundred subpoenas and took dozens of depositions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Internal emails and texts were beginning to pour out of the case, including a cache of Musk’s texts in which some of the richest, most powerful, boldface names in Silicon Valley begged to get in on the deal, handed out free advice and generally kissed up to him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Musk is scheduled to sit for a deposition this week. A five-day trial is slated to begin Oct. 17.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2022 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Elon+Musk+says+he%27s+willing+to+buy+Twitter+after+all&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Tesla CEO tells Twitter that he'll go ahead with the original deal to buy the company for $54.20 a share, possibly averting a trial. The news led Twitter stock to soar before trading was halted. 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A trial is scheduled to begin in less than two weeks. It’s now up to the company to accept Musk’s renewed offer or force the billionaire to go to court in an effort to seal the deal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Representatives for Musk and Twitter didn’t respond to requests for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A tumultuous courtship Twitter never sought\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Musk and Twitter have been at odds almost since Musk first revealed his interest in the company in early April. In the course of just a few months, Musk went from being Twitter’s largest individual shareholder to would-be board member to unsolicited bidder to unwilling buyer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter, which never put itself up for sale in the first place, found itself in the awkward position of trying to force Musk to buy it, even as it acknowledged the specter of his ownership was causing disruption to its already \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/23/1094324614/twitter-elon-musk-old-problems\">struggling business\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"elon-musk"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Along the way, Musk has used his Twitter account – which now boasts nearly 108 million followers – to mock the company, critique its products, attack its executives and keep the world guessing about what he’d do next.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The billionaire began buying Twitter shares in January. By spring, he’d become its biggest individual shareholder, but delayed notifying regulators or the public until early April. At that point, he told Twitter he saw three options: join its board, buy the company and take it private, or start a competing social network, according to Twitter’s lawsuit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After accepting and then reneging an invitation to \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/11/1091969075/elon-musk-will-not-join-twitter-board\">join the company’s board\u003c/a>, Musk made an unsolicited offer to buy Twitter for $54.20 a share, or about $44 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter initially resisted, adopting a so-called \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/19/1093408513/twitter-elon-musk-explainer-investors-shareholders\">“poison pill”\u003c/a> to slow down Musk’s advances and give the board and management time to evaluate his offer against other prospects. Musk started tweeting veiled references to making a tender offer directly to Twitter shareholders to get his way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, Twitter \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/25/1094604406/twitter-elon-musk-deal\">agreed to sell\u003c/a> to Musk in late April. The company and Musk signed a deal in which Musk waived any further due diligence, pledged tens of billions of his own money, and promised not to use his Twitter megaphone to disparage the company. The deal included another important protection for Twitter: it said if Musk tried to back out, with few exceptions, the company could take him to court to force him to complete the purchase.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Musk’s change-of-heart led to high-stakes legal battle, with trial scheduled for this month\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The ink was barely dry on the agreement when Musk began suggesting he had cold feet. When he struck the deal, he said one of his goals in owning Twitter was to clean up its longstanding problems with spam and automated bot accounts. Soon, he began saying he didn’t want to buy Twitter \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/05/13/1098741154/elon-musk-twitter-deal-hold-pause\">because of the bots\u003c/a> – and accused the company of misleading him and the public about the scale of the problem. (Twitter has for years said it estimates about 5% of daily users are not real people.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In early July, he announced he was \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110539504/twitter-elon-musk-deal-jeopardy\">terminating the deal\u003c/a>, citing his concerns over Twitter’s user numbers and his allegations that Twitter deceived him. Twitter hit back two days later with a \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/07/12/1111032233/elon-musk-twitter-lawsuit-deal\">lawsuit\u003c/a> seeking to hold Musk to the terms of the sale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter accused Musk of suffering from buyer’s remorse, noting that the stock market rout since the deal was signed made the price Musk had agreed to pay look high and dented the value of his \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/26/1094870412/tesla-shares-sink-twitter-elon-musk\">Tesla stake\u003c/a> – his primary source of wealth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company argued Musk’s claims about bots were irrelevant to the question of whether he broke the legal agreement, which made no mention of how many accounts on Twitter aren’t real.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indeed, Musk amended his legal argument in August, after Twitter’s former security chief filed a federal complaint contending Twitter was putting users’ privacy and sensitive company information at risk through lax security practices. (Twitter has called the allegations inaccurate, inconsistent and opportunistic.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Musk’s reversal comes after an unusually eventful discovery phase of the case, in which attorneys for both sides filed more than a hundred subpoenas and took dozens of depositions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Internal emails and texts were beginning to pour out of the case, including a cache of Musk’s texts in which some of the richest, most powerful, boldface names in Silicon Valley begged to get in on the deal, handed out free advice and generally kissed up to him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Musk is scheduled to sit for a deposition this week. A five-day trial is slated to begin Oct. 17.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2022 NPR. 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Not surprisingly, the tech giants' chief executives told Congress: absolutely not. The concern that too much power is concentrated in too few companies is unfounded, they said Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Does Apple punish its rivals on the App Store to score more customers?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Rep. 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The Apple representative suggested that the mother download Apple's Screen Time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cook said \"there are many reasons why\" an app may not meet the App Store's guidelines, dismissing the suggestion that Apple squashed its competition to favor its own service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://omny.fm/shows/kqed-segmented-audio/tech-titans-to-dial-in-to-congressional-antitrust/embed\" width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"0\" title=\"Tech Titans to Dial in to Congressional Antitrust Hearing\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McBath referenced a second example involving the publisher Random House, which says Apple held back the introduction of its app as Apple pushed its own similar product.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Even some of the largest companies in the country fear your power. Our evidence suggests that your company has used its power to harm your rivals and boost your own business,\" McBath said. \"This is fundamentally unfair,\" she said. \"Ultimately, it reduces the competition and the choices made to consumers and that's a great concern to all of us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>-- Bobby Allyn \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>CEO vows Google won't play favorites in 2020 election\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google CEO Sundar Pichai faced a barrage of questions from Rep. Jim Jordan. The Ohio Republican said he's concerned that Google will tailor its search engine to give a leg up to presumed Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden over President Trump in searches related to the November election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Jordan asked Pichai for a promise to Americans that Google will not favor Biden in the 2020 election, Pichai said \"we don't do any work to politically tilt anything one way or another.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jordan persisted with the same question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pichai, eventually, agreed to make a commitment that Google will not tilt its features to help Biden and that the search engine will not be used to silence conservatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"more big tech coverage\" tag=\"tech-companies\"]\"Yeah, you have my commitment. It's always been true and we'll continue to conduct ourselves in a neutral way,\" Pichai said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's a line of inquiry that is far afield from the purpose of the hearing, noted Pennsylvania Democrat Mary Gay Scanlon, saying she'd like to turn the focus back to antitrust, rather than \"fringe conspiracy theories.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This incited Jordan, who interrupted Scanlon, launching a screaming match between Jordan and Democratic leadership about following the rules of the hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When someone comes after my motives for asking questions,\" shouted Jordan, \"I should get a chance to respond.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>-- Bobby Allyn \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Does Amazon use sellers' data to help itself?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first inquiry for Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos finally arrived from Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., some two hours into the hearing. Jayapal zeroed in on the subcommittee's central concern about Amazon: Does the company use the data it collects from other sellers on the platform for its benefit?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I can't answer that questions yes or no,\" Bezos said. \"We have a policy against using seller-specific data to aid our private label business, but I can't guarantee you that that policy has never been violated.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Committee lawmakers have previously accused Amazon of \"\u003ca href=\"https://judiciary.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2931\">lack of candor\u003c/a>\" about how it \u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its-own-sellers-to-launch-competing-products-11587650015\">might be using\u003c/a> other sellers' data to give an edge its own business, something Amazon executives have, until now, denied was happening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Critics have \u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its-own-sellers-to-launch-competing-products-11587650015\">made the case\u003c/a> that Amazon employees may have used such data to create the retailer's own private-label products, which Bezos told lawmakers the company was still investigating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jayapal noted that Amazon has access to information about consumer habits, sellers' pricing and inventory data, a trove of details that could be ripe for abuse if used to make business decisions about Amazon's own products.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You can set the rules of the game for your competitors, but not actually follow those same rules for yourself,\" Jayapal said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You have access to data that your competitors do not have,\" she continued, adding that if Amazon was \"continuously monitoring\" such data to make sure that other sellers \"are never going to get big enough that they can compete with you — that is actually the concern that the committee has,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Alina Selyukh\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Google's Pichai is pressed on being \"the gateway to the Internet\"\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Subcommittee Chairman Cicilline spent all of his first 5-minute block of questions on Google — the company at most immediate risk of actual antitrust action. The Department of Justice is reportedly preparing to sue the company over its advertising business, and could be joined by state attorneys general who have also been investigating Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cicilline pressed CEO Sundar Pichai on whether Google's business model presents a conflict of interest, because it has an incentive to give search results that keep users on its own site rather than anywhere else on the Internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As Google became the gateway to the Internet, it began to abuse its power,\" Cicilline said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pichai responded that Google \"always focuses on providing users the most relevant information.\" Cicilline appeared annoyed at Pichai's answers, cutting him off several times to move to another question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Shannon Bond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Still waiting for questions for Jeff Bezos\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over an hour-and-a-half into the hearing, Jeff Bezos — appearing in Congress for the first time, whose company employs a million workers and has over 150 million paying subscribers — has yet to receive a single question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His presence was slated to become a powerful accomplishment of the House Judiciary Committee, but the questioning so far has left him muted on the live video feed, reaching for some snacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing, meanwhile, is taking a 10-minute break to fix a technical problem \"with one of our witnesses.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Alina Selyukh\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Did Facebook buy Instagram to neutralize a competitor?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., pressed Facebook's Zuckerberg on exactly why his company bought Instagram for $1 billion back in 2012. That's a key part of competition questions facing the social media giant. Critics accuse Facebook of buying or copying rivals — like Instagram and WhatsApp — to squash competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nadler said in its investigation, the committee got documents from Facebook in which Zuckerberg discussed \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/HouseJudiciary/status/1288540745637474306?s=20\">\"neutralizing a competitor\"\u003c/a> as a reason to pursue Instagram.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Facebook saw Instagram as a threat that could potentially siphon business away from Facebook. And so rather than compete with it, Facebook bought it,\" Nadler said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zuckerberg points out that the Federal Trade Commission okayed the merger at the time. \"With hindsight it probably looks obvious that Instagram would have reached the scale that it has today, but at the time it was far from obvious,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cicilline interjected to say that the \"failures\" of the FTC in 2012 do not mean it was not a violation of antitrust law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Shannon Bond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Panel chairman: Under coronavirus, big tech \"likely to emerge stronger and more powerful\" \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Up first is Rhode Island Democrat David Cicilline, chairman of the antitrust subcommittee that's holding this hearing. He is the driving force behind the year-long investigation of big tech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his \u003ca href=\"https://judiciary.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=3200\">opening remarks\u003c/a>, he describes the dominance of each company: Amazon in online shopping, Apple in smartphones and apps, Facebook in social media and Google in search and ads. And he points out that thanks to the coronavirus pandemic, all four \"are likely to emerge stronger and more powerful than ever before.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As American families shift more of their work, shopping, and communication online, these giants stand to profit. Locally owned businesses, meanwhile —mom and pop stores on Main Street — face an economic crisis unlike any in recent history,\" Cicilline said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The committee's investigation has turned up a pattern among the tech giants, he said. They control access to information and marketplaces, use that control to \"surveil\" rivals and protect their power, and favor their own businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Simply put: They have too much power,\" Cicilline said. For consumers, he said, this is reminiscent of previous American monopolies: railroads, oil and telephone companies, and even another tech giant — Microsoft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This investigation also goes to the heart of whether we, as a people, govern ourselves, or whether we let ourselves be governed by private monopolies,\" he said. \"Our founders would not bow before a king. Nor should we bow before the emperors of the online economy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Shannon Bond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Republican Jim Jordan: \"Big Tech is out to get conservatives\"\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wednesday's hearing is supposed to be about Big Tech's power and market dominance. But Republicans are already trying to make it about something else: accusations that online platforms are biased against conservatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Big Tech is out to get conservatives,\" said Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, in his fiery opening statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jordan then rapidly read aloud headlines making claims that conservative-leaning publications and voices have been suppressed or censored on Facebook and Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also mentioned Twitter, even though it is not part of the hearing. Jordan said conservative members of Congress were \"shadow banned\" on Twitter. He said Twitter's CEO Jack Dorsey said it was a glitch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If I had a nickel for every time I heard it was just a glitch, I wouldn't be as wealthy as our witnesses, but I'd be doing right,\" Jordan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We all think the free market is great. We think competition is great. We love the fact that these are American companies. But what's not great is censoring people, censoring conservatives and trying to impact election,\" Jordan said. \"\"If it doesn't end, there has to be consequences.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before Jordan's remarks, Wisconsin Republican Jim Sensenbrenner also mentioned the belief, strongly contested by large tech companies, that conservatives do not get a fair shake by the online platforms, calling reports of conservative censorship troubling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Conservatives are consumers, too, and they need the protection of antitrust laws,\" Sensenbrenner said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing erupted in chaos after Jordan asked that Rep. Mike Johnson of the House Judiciary's Constitution subcommittee be allowed to participate in the hearing. The request was denied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jordan then repeatedly interrupted antitrust subcommittee Chairman David Cicilline, who was attempting to introduce Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're talking about peoples' liberties here,\" Jordan said over Cicilline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Put your mask on,\" Jordan was told.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Bobby Allyn\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trump tweets: 'Bring fairness to Big Tech'\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing has gotten underway, after an hour-long delay. First up, we will get opening statements from the top members of the committee and the four CEOs. Then lawmakers will each get five minutes to question Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai and Mark Zuckerberg. All four will be joining remotely, via video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The focus of the hearing, and the committee's investigation, is competition — but expect lawmakers to be unable to resist bringing up other complaints about tech companies, from election security and the spread of misinformation to alleged anti-conservative bias.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's also the message coming from the White House, where President Trump has repeatedly accused tech companies of treating him unfairly. Shortly after noon, he \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288506554585505793\">tweeted\u003c/a>: \"If Congress doesn't bring fairness to Big Tech, which they should have done years ago, I will do it myself with Executive Orders. In Washington, it has been ALL TALK and NO ACTION for years, and the people of our Country are sick and tired of it!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Shannon Bond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Our original story by Bobby Allyn continues:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amid a time of rising tensions with China, some of the powerful CEOs will suggest that too much regulation could provide an opportunity for Chinese tech firms to gain a global toehold, according to opening remarks from the tech leaders \u003ca href=\"https://docs.house.gov/Committee/Calendar/ByEvent.aspx?EventID=110883\">released by\u003c/a> the House Judiciary antitrust subcommittee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We believe in values — democracy, competition, inclusion and free expression — that the American economy was built on,\" Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg will tell lawmakers, according to his prepared \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7009144/Mark-Zuckerberg-Written-Testimony.pdf\">opening statement\u003c/a>. \"China is building its own version of the internet focused on very different ideas, and they are exporting their vision to other countries.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amazon's Jeff Bezos, the world's richest person who will be making his first-ever appearance in front of Congress, will bring in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/28/896500557/jeff-bezos-to-washington-my-dad-s-name-is-miguel-he-adopted-me-when-i-was-4\">his personal story \u003c/a>of being adopted by an immigrant father when he was 4 years old and spending his summers on his grandparents' ranch in Texas, saying his upbringing instilled in him a work ethic that has helped Amazon prosper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amazon's rise to becoming the largest online retailer, Bezos will say, is an achievement only made possible in America. But Walmart, he will point out, is still twice the size of Amazon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We did not start out as the largest marketplace — eBay was many times our size. It was only by focusing on supporting sellers and giving them the best tools we could invent that we were able to succeed and eventually surpass eBay,\" Bezos says in his \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7009139/Jeff-Bezos-Written-Testimony.pdf\">released testimony\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google's Sundar Pichai will steer attention to the other ways people navigate the online world, even though 90% of Internet searches happen on Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"People have more ways to search for information than ever before — and increasingly this is happening outside the context of only a search engine,\" Pichai \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7009142/Sundar-Pichai-Written-Testimony.pdf\">plans to tell\u003c/a> the House panel. \"You can ask Alexa a question from your kitchen; read your news on Twitter; ask friends for information via WhatsApp; and get recommendations on Snapchat or Pinterest.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Apple's Tim Cook will echo the appeals to patriotism raised among the other tech CEOs by touting how Apple's strength, becoming the most valuable company in the world, represents success \"only possible in this country.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He will also join the other tech leaders by arguing that Apple has plenty of competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The smartphone market is fiercely competitive, and companies like Samsung, LG, Huawei and Google have built very successful smartphone businesses offering different approaches,\" Cook will say in \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7009148/Tim-Cook-Written-Testimony.pdf\">his opening statement\u003c/a> to lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether members of the House Judiciary Committee's antitrust subcommittee buy these arguments over the course of what is set to be an hourslong spectacle is another matter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it remains to be seen if the public will gain new insight into the tech companies, and whether lawmakers can pin down answers from the typically cautious technology executives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CEOs will be testifying via video at the same time, rather than one by one, a format seen as taking the heat off any individual executive and something the companies requested.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/28/894834512/big-tech-in-washingtons-hot-seat-what-you-need-to-know\">the hearing\u003c/a> centers on questions around market dominance, lawmakers are free to pepper the executives with questions about any topic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The anything-goes format will likely divert the hearing away from antitrust and delve into issues like perceived anti-conservative bias on social media platforms, a common Republican refrain. And Democrats, often raising concern about foreign election meddling, may inquire about possible efforts to influence the vote online ahead of the November election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More on-topic probing could involve issues like acquisitions that have grown the reach of Big Tech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For instance, Facebook \u003ca href=\"https://www.crunchbase.com/search/acquisitions/field/organizations/num_acquisitions/facebook\">has acquired\u003c/a> nearly 90 companies, including Instagram, WhatsApp and more recently, Giphy, a tool for creating animated images.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How ever it goes, one thing is certain: It will be a day for the history books.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing is the first time all four technology leaders have testified together, as scrutiny over the companies' nearly $5 trillion market power draws intensifying scrutiny in Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CEOs will be on the defensive as House lawmakers grill them about whether the business empire each company has created has resulted in monopoly-like dominance that distorts the marketplace in their favor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After enjoying more than a decade virtually free of federal regulation, House lawmakers are expected to make the case that it's time for the technology behemoths to be held to account.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing caps a more than year-long House investigation into the Big Tech companies, which has probed whether the industry leaders box out competition, discourage innovation and pose larger threats to society and American democracy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If Washington can keep the bipartisan focus on Silicon Valley, the hearing could set the stage for historic regulations, but the tech CEOs will be making the case to lawmakers that laws aimed at reining in the scale and power of each company are not necessary, contending that competition among rivals has not been squashed and that consumers have benefited from the technology sector's success.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You earn trust slowly, over time, by doing hard things well — delivering on time; offering everyday low prices; making promises and keeping them; making principled decisions, even when they're unpopular,\" Bezos will tell the subcommittee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unpopular among the four tech giants: the argument that the power each company has amassed over the years is being abused and needs to be held accountable by Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2020 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Heads+Of+Amazon%2C+Apple%2C+Facebook+And+Google+Testify+On+Big+Tech%27s+Power&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The CEOs tell Congress that the giant American tech companies do not stifle competition, saying the concern that too much power is concentrated in too few companies is unfounded.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1596070735,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":107,"wordCount":2999},"headData":{"title":"Heads Of Amazon, Apple, Facebook And Google Testify On Big Tech's Power | KQED","description":"The CEOs tell Congress that the giant American tech companies do not stifle competition, saying the concern that too much power is concentrated in too few companies is unfounded.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Heads Of Amazon, Apple, Facebook And Google Testify On Big Tech's Power","datePublished":"2020-07-29T17:32:20.000Z","dateModified":"2020-07-30T00:58:55.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11830974 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11830974","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/07/29/watch-heads-of-amazon-apple-facebook-and-google-testify-on-big-techs-power/","disqusTitle":"Heads Of Amazon, Apple, Facebook And Google Testify On Big Tech's Power","videoEmbed":"https://youtu.be/RRB1-6nMcIU","source":"NPR","sourceUrl":"https://www.npr.org/","nprImageCredit":"Bertrand Guay, Tobias Schwarz, Angela Weiss, Mark Ralston","nprByline":"Alina Selyukh","nprImageAgency":"AFP via Getty Images","nprStoryId":"894802424","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=894802424&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/29/894802424/watch-heads-of-amazon-apple-facebook-and-google-testify-on-big-techs-power?ft=nprml&f=894802424","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:00:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Wed, 29 Jul 2020 10:32:20 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:00:10 -0400","path":"/news/11830974/watch-heads-of-amazon-apple-facebook-and-google-testify-on-big-techs-power","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Updated at 6:35 p.m. ET\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Are Facebook, Google, Amazon and Apple \"emperors of the online economy\" that stifle competition and hurt consumers? Not surprisingly, the tech giants' chief executives told Congress: absolutely not. The concern that too much power is concentrated in too few companies is unfounded, they said Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Does Apple punish its rivals on the App Store to score more customers?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Rep. 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The Apple representative suggested that the mother download Apple's Screen Time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cook said \"there are many reasons why\" an app may not meet the App Store's guidelines, dismissing the suggestion that Apple squashed its competition to favor its own service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://omny.fm/shows/kqed-segmented-audio/tech-titans-to-dial-in-to-congressional-antitrust/embed\" width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"0\" title=\"Tech Titans to Dial in to Congressional Antitrust Hearing\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McBath referenced a second example involving the publisher Random House, which says Apple held back the introduction of its app as Apple pushed its own similar product.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Even some of the largest companies in the country fear your power. Our evidence suggests that your company has used its power to harm your rivals and boost your own business,\" McBath said. \"This is fundamentally unfair,\" she said. \"Ultimately, it reduces the competition and the choices made to consumers and that's a great concern to all of us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>-- Bobby Allyn \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>CEO vows Google won't play favorites in 2020 election\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google CEO Sundar Pichai faced a barrage of questions from Rep. Jim Jordan. The Ohio Republican said he's concerned that Google will tailor its search engine to give a leg up to presumed Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden over President Trump in searches related to the November election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Jordan asked Pichai for a promise to Americans that Google will not favor Biden in the 2020 election, Pichai said \"we don't do any work to politically tilt anything one way or another.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jordan persisted with the same question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pichai, eventually, agreed to make a commitment that Google will not tilt its features to help Biden and that the search engine will not be used to silence conservatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"more big tech coverage ","tag":"tech-companies"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\"Yeah, you have my commitment. It's always been true and we'll continue to conduct ourselves in a neutral way,\" Pichai said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's a line of inquiry that is far afield from the purpose of the hearing, noted Pennsylvania Democrat Mary Gay Scanlon, saying she'd like to turn the focus back to antitrust, rather than \"fringe conspiracy theories.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This incited Jordan, who interrupted Scanlon, launching a screaming match between Jordan and Democratic leadership about following the rules of the hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When someone comes after my motives for asking questions,\" shouted Jordan, \"I should get a chance to respond.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>-- Bobby Allyn \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Does Amazon use sellers' data to help itself?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first inquiry for Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos finally arrived from Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., some two hours into the hearing. Jayapal zeroed in on the subcommittee's central concern about Amazon: Does the company use the data it collects from other sellers on the platform for its benefit?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I can't answer that questions yes or no,\" Bezos said. \"We have a policy against using seller-specific data to aid our private label business, but I can't guarantee you that that policy has never been violated.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Committee lawmakers have previously accused Amazon of \"\u003ca href=\"https://judiciary.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2931\">lack of candor\u003c/a>\" about how it \u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its-own-sellers-to-launch-competing-products-11587650015\">might be using\u003c/a> other sellers' data to give an edge its own business, something Amazon executives have, until now, denied was happening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Critics have \u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its-own-sellers-to-launch-competing-products-11587650015\">made the case\u003c/a> that Amazon employees may have used such data to create the retailer's own private-label products, which Bezos told lawmakers the company was still investigating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jayapal noted that Amazon has access to information about consumer habits, sellers' pricing and inventory data, a trove of details that could be ripe for abuse if used to make business decisions about Amazon's own products.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You can set the rules of the game for your competitors, but not actually follow those same rules for yourself,\" Jayapal said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You have access to data that your competitors do not have,\" she continued, adding that if Amazon was \"continuously monitoring\" such data to make sure that other sellers \"are never going to get big enough that they can compete with you — that is actually the concern that the committee has,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Alina Selyukh\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Google's Pichai is pressed on being \"the gateway to the Internet\"\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Subcommittee Chairman Cicilline spent all of his first 5-minute block of questions on Google — the company at most immediate risk of actual antitrust action. The Department of Justice is reportedly preparing to sue the company over its advertising business, and could be joined by state attorneys general who have also been investigating Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cicilline pressed CEO Sundar Pichai on whether Google's business model presents a conflict of interest, because it has an incentive to give search results that keep users on its own site rather than anywhere else on the Internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As Google became the gateway to the Internet, it began to abuse its power,\" Cicilline said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pichai responded that Google \"always focuses on providing users the most relevant information.\" Cicilline appeared annoyed at Pichai's answers, cutting him off several times to move to another question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Shannon Bond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Still waiting for questions for Jeff Bezos\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over an hour-and-a-half into the hearing, Jeff Bezos — appearing in Congress for the first time, whose company employs a million workers and has over 150 million paying subscribers — has yet to receive a single question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His presence was slated to become a powerful accomplishment of the House Judiciary Committee, but the questioning so far has left him muted on the live video feed, reaching for some snacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing, meanwhile, is taking a 10-minute break to fix a technical problem \"with one of our witnesses.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Alina Selyukh\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Did Facebook buy Instagram to neutralize a competitor?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., pressed Facebook's Zuckerberg on exactly why his company bought Instagram for $1 billion back in 2012. That's a key part of competition questions facing the social media giant. Critics accuse Facebook of buying or copying rivals — like Instagram and WhatsApp — to squash competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nadler said in its investigation, the committee got documents from Facebook in which Zuckerberg discussed \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/HouseJudiciary/status/1288540745637474306?s=20\">\"neutralizing a competitor\"\u003c/a> as a reason to pursue Instagram.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Facebook saw Instagram as a threat that could potentially siphon business away from Facebook. And so rather than compete with it, Facebook bought it,\" Nadler said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zuckerberg points out that the Federal Trade Commission okayed the merger at the time. \"With hindsight it probably looks obvious that Instagram would have reached the scale that it has today, but at the time it was far from obvious,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cicilline interjected to say that the \"failures\" of the FTC in 2012 do not mean it was not a violation of antitrust law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Shannon Bond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Panel chairman: Under coronavirus, big tech \"likely to emerge stronger and more powerful\" \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Up first is Rhode Island Democrat David Cicilline, chairman of the antitrust subcommittee that's holding this hearing. He is the driving force behind the year-long investigation of big tech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his \u003ca href=\"https://judiciary.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=3200\">opening remarks\u003c/a>, he describes the dominance of each company: Amazon in online shopping, Apple in smartphones and apps, Facebook in social media and Google in search and ads. And he points out that thanks to the coronavirus pandemic, all four \"are likely to emerge stronger and more powerful than ever before.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As American families shift more of their work, shopping, and communication online, these giants stand to profit. Locally owned businesses, meanwhile —mom and pop stores on Main Street — face an economic crisis unlike any in recent history,\" Cicilline said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The committee's investigation has turned up a pattern among the tech giants, he said. They control access to information and marketplaces, use that control to \"surveil\" rivals and protect their power, and favor their own businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Simply put: They have too much power,\" Cicilline said. For consumers, he said, this is reminiscent of previous American monopolies: railroads, oil and telephone companies, and even another tech giant — Microsoft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This investigation also goes to the heart of whether we, as a people, govern ourselves, or whether we let ourselves be governed by private monopolies,\" he said. \"Our founders would not bow before a king. Nor should we bow before the emperors of the online economy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Shannon Bond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Republican Jim Jordan: \"Big Tech is out to get conservatives\"\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wednesday's hearing is supposed to be about Big Tech's power and market dominance. But Republicans are already trying to make it about something else: accusations that online platforms are biased against conservatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Big Tech is out to get conservatives,\" said Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, in his fiery opening statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jordan then rapidly read aloud headlines making claims that conservative-leaning publications and voices have been suppressed or censored on Facebook and Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also mentioned Twitter, even though it is not part of the hearing. Jordan said conservative members of Congress were \"shadow banned\" on Twitter. He said Twitter's CEO Jack Dorsey said it was a glitch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If I had a nickel for every time I heard it was just a glitch, I wouldn't be as wealthy as our witnesses, but I'd be doing right,\" Jordan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We all think the free market is great. We think competition is great. We love the fact that these are American companies. But what's not great is censoring people, censoring conservatives and trying to impact election,\" Jordan said. \"\"If it doesn't end, there has to be consequences.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before Jordan's remarks, Wisconsin Republican Jim Sensenbrenner also mentioned the belief, strongly contested by large tech companies, that conservatives do not get a fair shake by the online platforms, calling reports of conservative censorship troubling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Conservatives are consumers, too, and they need the protection of antitrust laws,\" Sensenbrenner said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing erupted in chaos after Jordan asked that Rep. Mike Johnson of the House Judiciary's Constitution subcommittee be allowed to participate in the hearing. The request was denied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jordan then repeatedly interrupted antitrust subcommittee Chairman David Cicilline, who was attempting to introduce Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're talking about peoples' liberties here,\" Jordan said over Cicilline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Put your mask on,\" Jordan was told.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Bobby Allyn\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trump tweets: 'Bring fairness to Big Tech'\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing has gotten underway, after an hour-long delay. First up, we will get opening statements from the top members of the committee and the four CEOs. Then lawmakers will each get five minutes to question Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai and Mark Zuckerberg. All four will be joining remotely, via video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The focus of the hearing, and the committee's investigation, is competition — but expect lawmakers to be unable to resist bringing up other complaints about tech companies, from election security and the spread of misinformation to alleged anti-conservative bias.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's also the message coming from the White House, where President Trump has repeatedly accused tech companies of treating him unfairly. Shortly after noon, he \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288506554585505793\">tweeted\u003c/a>: \"If Congress doesn't bring fairness to Big Tech, which they should have done years ago, I will do it myself with Executive Orders. In Washington, it has been ALL TALK and NO ACTION for years, and the people of our Country are sick and tired of it!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>--Shannon Bond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Our original story by Bobby Allyn continues:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amid a time of rising tensions with China, some of the powerful CEOs will suggest that too much regulation could provide an opportunity for Chinese tech firms to gain a global toehold, according to opening remarks from the tech leaders \u003ca href=\"https://docs.house.gov/Committee/Calendar/ByEvent.aspx?EventID=110883\">released by\u003c/a> the House Judiciary antitrust subcommittee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We believe in values — democracy, competition, inclusion and free expression — that the American economy was built on,\" Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg will tell lawmakers, according to his prepared \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7009144/Mark-Zuckerberg-Written-Testimony.pdf\">opening statement\u003c/a>. \"China is building its own version of the internet focused on very different ideas, and they are exporting their vision to other countries.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amazon's Jeff Bezos, the world's richest person who will be making his first-ever appearance in front of Congress, will bring in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/28/896500557/jeff-bezos-to-washington-my-dad-s-name-is-miguel-he-adopted-me-when-i-was-4\">his personal story \u003c/a>of being adopted by an immigrant father when he was 4 years old and spending his summers on his grandparents' ranch in Texas, saying his upbringing instilled in him a work ethic that has helped Amazon prosper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amazon's rise to becoming the largest online retailer, Bezos will say, is an achievement only made possible in America. But Walmart, he will point out, is still twice the size of Amazon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We did not start out as the largest marketplace — eBay was many times our size. It was only by focusing on supporting sellers and giving them the best tools we could invent that we were able to succeed and eventually surpass eBay,\" Bezos says in his \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7009139/Jeff-Bezos-Written-Testimony.pdf\">released testimony\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google's Sundar Pichai will steer attention to the other ways people navigate the online world, even though 90% of Internet searches happen on Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"People have more ways to search for information than ever before — and increasingly this is happening outside the context of only a search engine,\" Pichai \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7009142/Sundar-Pichai-Written-Testimony.pdf\">plans to tell\u003c/a> the House panel. \"You can ask Alexa a question from your kitchen; read your news on Twitter; ask friends for information via WhatsApp; and get recommendations on Snapchat or Pinterest.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Apple's Tim Cook will echo the appeals to patriotism raised among the other tech CEOs by touting how Apple's strength, becoming the most valuable company in the world, represents success \"only possible in this country.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He will also join the other tech leaders by arguing that Apple has plenty of competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The smartphone market is fiercely competitive, and companies like Samsung, LG, Huawei and Google have built very successful smartphone businesses offering different approaches,\" Cook will say in \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7009148/Tim-Cook-Written-Testimony.pdf\">his opening statement\u003c/a> to lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether members of the House Judiciary Committee's antitrust subcommittee buy these arguments over the course of what is set to be an hourslong spectacle is another matter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it remains to be seen if the public will gain new insight into the tech companies, and whether lawmakers can pin down answers from the typically cautious technology executives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CEOs will be testifying via video at the same time, rather than one by one, a format seen as taking the heat off any individual executive and something the companies requested.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/28/894834512/big-tech-in-washingtons-hot-seat-what-you-need-to-know\">the hearing\u003c/a> centers on questions around market dominance, lawmakers are free to pepper the executives with questions about any topic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The anything-goes format will likely divert the hearing away from antitrust and delve into issues like perceived anti-conservative bias on social media platforms, a common Republican refrain. And Democrats, often raising concern about foreign election meddling, may inquire about possible efforts to influence the vote online ahead of the November election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More on-topic probing could involve issues like acquisitions that have grown the reach of Big Tech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For instance, Facebook \u003ca href=\"https://www.crunchbase.com/search/acquisitions/field/organizations/num_acquisitions/facebook\">has acquired\u003c/a> nearly 90 companies, including Instagram, WhatsApp and more recently, Giphy, a tool for creating animated images.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How ever it goes, one thing is certain: It will be a day for the history books.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing is the first time all four technology leaders have testified together, as scrutiny over the companies' nearly $5 trillion market power draws intensifying scrutiny in Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CEOs will be on the defensive as House lawmakers grill them about whether the business empire each company has created has resulted in monopoly-like dominance that distorts the marketplace in their favor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After enjoying more than a decade virtually free of federal regulation, House lawmakers are expected to make the case that it's time for the technology behemoths to be held to account.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing caps a more than year-long House investigation into the Big Tech companies, which has probed whether the industry leaders box out competition, discourage innovation and pose larger threats to society and American democracy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If Washington can keep the bipartisan focus on Silicon Valley, the hearing could set the stage for historic regulations, but the tech CEOs will be making the case to lawmakers that laws aimed at reining in the scale and power of each company are not necessary, contending that competition among rivals has not been squashed and that consumers have benefited from the technology sector's success.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You earn trust slowly, over time, by doing hard things well — delivering on time; offering everyday low prices; making promises and keeping them; making principled decisions, even when they're unpopular,\" Bezos will tell the subcommittee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unpopular among the four tech giants: the argument that the power each company has amassed over the years is being abused and needs to be held accountable by Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2020 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Heads+Of+Amazon%2C+Apple%2C+Facebook+And+Google+Testify+On+Big+Tech%27s+Power&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11830974/watch-heads-of-amazon-apple-facebook-and-google-testify-on-big-techs-power","authors":["byline_news_11830974"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_1611","news_19182","news_28321","news_249","news_93","news_353","news_6176"],"featImg":"news_11830975","label":"source_news_11830974"},"news_11774971":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11774971","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11774971","score":null,"sort":[1568836234000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"newsom-signs-controversial-bill-targeting-gig-companies-like-uber-lyft","title":"Newsom Signs Controversial Bill Targeting Gig Companies Like Uber, Lyft","publishDate":1568836234,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday signed sweeping labor legislation that aims to give wage and benefit protections to ride-hail drivers at companies like Uber and Lyft, as well as to workers across other industries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='small' align='right' citation='Uber spokesman Davis White']'We believe California is missing a real opportunity to lead the nation by improving the quality, security and dignity of independent work.'[/pullquote]The closely watched proposal could have national implications as lawmakers, businesses and unions confront the changing nature of work and the rise of the gig economy. The so-called Dynamex bill, AB 5, essentially codifies a 2018 California Supreme Court decision that found workers who perform a core service of a company must be classified as employees — not contractors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The legislation affects up to 1 million workers, making them entitled to minimum wage and benefits like workers' compensation, said San Diego Democratic Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez, who authored the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1174387981819367424\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But its effect on ride-hailing and meal delivery companies has seized the spotlight. Gonzalez said the companies have put themselves in a tough spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They have created so many millionaires and billionaires in this state and that's great. That's innovative,\" she said. \"But when you do it on the backs of the working poor, there's something wrong there.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='small' align='right' citation='Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez on Uber general counsel saying drivers are not a core part of its business']'I think he's full of shit and I think most people kind of saw that.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber, Lyft and DoorDash are pushing Newsom to come up with a third option for gig companies and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11771081/uber-lyft-funding-possible-2020-ballot-initiative-to-regulate-gig-workers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">have threatened to spend $90 million\u003c/a> on a 2020 ballot measure if they are not successful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber general counsel Tony West has suggested the company will not automatically start treating its drivers as employees come Jan. 1, when the law goes into effect, saying they aren't a core part of its business model.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think he's full of shit and I think most people kind of saw that,\" Gonzalez said of West's suggestion. \"I mean that was incredulous, I think, for most of us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag='gig-economy' label='More Coverage']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber and Lyft have offered to give employees a base hourly wage, access to benefits and a right to bargain across the industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We've engaged in good faith with the Legislature, the Newsom administration and labor leaders for nearly a year on this issue, and we believe California is missing a real opportunity to lead the nation by improving the quality, security and dignity of independent work,\" Uber spokesman Davis White said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom, for his part, said Wednesday that he wants to keep negotiating with labor and business leaders to ensure that gig workers can collectively bargain since there's been a dispute over whether giving them employee status in California would allow them to form a union. The National Labor Relations Board still considers gig workers to be independent contractors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I will convene leaders from the Legislature, the labor movement and the business community to support innovation and a more inclusive economy by stepping in where the federal government has fallen short,\" Newsom wrote in his signing statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED News' Katie Orr contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The new law could have national implications as lawmakers, businesses and unions confront the changing nature of work and the rise of the gig economy.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1568921076,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":16,"wordCount":565},"headData":{"title":"Newsom Signs Controversial Bill Targeting Gig Companies Like Uber, Lyft | KQED","description":"The new law could have national implications as lawmakers, businesses and unions confront the changing nature of work and the rise of the gig economy.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Newsom Signs Controversial Bill Targeting Gig Companies Like Uber, Lyft","datePublished":"2019-09-18T19:50:34.000Z","dateModified":"2019-09-19T19:24:36.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11774971 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11774971","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/09/18/newsom-signs-controversial-bill-targeting-gig-companies-like-uber-lyft/","disqusTitle":"Newsom Signs Controversial Bill Targeting Gig Companies Like Uber, Lyft","source":"News","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/news/","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2019/09/307888AB5SigningOrr.mp3","nprByline":"\u003cstrong>Kathleen Ronayne, The Associated Press\u003c/strong>","audioTrackLength":92,"path":"/news/11774971/newsom-signs-controversial-bill-targeting-gig-companies-like-uber-lyft","audioDuration":92000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday signed sweeping labor legislation that aims to give wage and benefit protections to ride-hail drivers at companies like Uber and Lyft, as well as to workers across other industries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'We believe California is missing a real opportunity to lead the nation by improving the quality, security and dignity of independent work.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"small","align":"right","citation":"Uber spokesman Davis White","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The closely watched proposal could have national implications as lawmakers, businesses and unions confront the changing nature of work and the rise of the gig economy. The so-called Dynamex bill, AB 5, essentially codifies a 2018 California Supreme Court decision that found workers who perform a core service of a company must be classified as employees — not contractors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The legislation affects up to 1 million workers, making them entitled to minimum wage and benefits like workers' compensation, said San Diego Democratic Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez, who authored the bill.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1174387981819367424"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>But its effect on ride-hailing and meal delivery companies has seized the spotlight. Gonzalez said the companies have put themselves in a tough spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They have created so many millionaires and billionaires in this state and that's great. That's innovative,\" she said. \"But when you do it on the backs of the working poor, there's something wrong there.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'I think he's full of shit and I think most people kind of saw that.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"small","align":"right","citation":"Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez on Uber general counsel saying drivers are not a core part of its business","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber, Lyft and DoorDash are pushing Newsom to come up with a third option for gig companies and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11771081/uber-lyft-funding-possible-2020-ballot-initiative-to-regulate-gig-workers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">have threatened to spend $90 million\u003c/a> on a 2020 ballot measure if they are not successful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber general counsel Tony West has suggested the company will not automatically start treating its drivers as employees come Jan. 1, when the law goes into effect, saying they aren't a core part of its business model.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think he's full of shit and I think most people kind of saw that,\" Gonzalez said of West's suggestion. \"I mean that was incredulous, I think, for most of us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"gig-economy","label":"More Coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber and Lyft have offered to give employees a base hourly wage, access to benefits and a right to bargain across the industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We've engaged in good faith with the Legislature, the Newsom administration and labor leaders for nearly a year on this issue, and we believe California is missing a real opportunity to lead the nation by improving the quality, security and dignity of independent work,\" Uber spokesman Davis White said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom, for his part, said Wednesday that he wants to keep negotiating with labor and business leaders to ensure that gig workers can collectively bargain since there's been a dispute over whether giving them employee status in California would allow them to form a union. The National Labor Relations Board still considers gig workers to be independent contractors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I will convene leaders from the Legislature, the labor movement and the business community to support innovation and a more inclusive economy by stepping in where the federal government has fallen short,\" Newsom wrote in his signing statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED News' Katie Orr contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11774971/newsom-signs-controversial-bill-targeting-gig-companies-like-uber-lyft","authors":["byline_news_11774971"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_13","news_248"],"tags":["news_26117","news_26532","news_19542","news_17994","news_25015","news_1852","news_26062","news_4524","news_23667","news_6176","news_17041","news_4523"],"featImg":"news_11775004","label":"source_news_11774971"},"news_11752549":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11752549","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11752549","score":null,"sort":[1559776622000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"is-big-tech-too-big-a-look-at-growing-antitrust-scrutiny","title":"Is 'Big Tech' Too Big? A Look at Growing Antitrust Scrutiny","publishDate":1559776622,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Is Big Tech headed for a big breakup?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The U.S. Justice Department and the Federal Trade Commission are moving to investigate Google, Facebook, Amazon and Apple over their aggressive business practices, and the House Judiciary Committee has announced \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11732620/targeting-online-privacy-congress-sets-a-new-tone-with-big-tech\">an unprecedented antitrust probe\u003c/a>, promising \"a top-to-bottom review of the market power held by giant tech platforms.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11732213,news_11732620\"]In addition, at least two 2020 presidential hopefuls have \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11732213/democratic-candidates-target-tech-giants-who-are-major-party-donors\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">expressed support for breaking up some of technology's biggest players\u003c/a> amid concerns they have become too powerful. Before the California Democratic Party State Convention in San Francisco last weekend, Sen. Elizabeth Warren also unveiled a billboard near the main Caltrain station that called to \"Break Up Big Tech.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Experts say breakups are unlikely in the short term, and Rep. David Cicilline, the Rhode Island Democrat who leads the subcommittee pursuing the House investigation, called such measures a \"last resort.\" But even without that, Facebook, Google, Amazon and Apple could face new restrictions on their power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google, Facebook, Amazon and Apple all declined to comment on the investigations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's a look at the cases that could be brought against them and what their defenses could be.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Facebook\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>With 2.4 billion users, $56 billion in revenue last year and a name that's synonymous with social media, Facebook is certainly big. But is it an illegal, competition-crushing monopoly?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Federal regulators are already \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11742542/facebook-anticipates-an-ftc-privacy-fine-of-up-to-5-billion\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">investigating the company's privacy practices\u003c/a>. But the antitrust question has been rumbling in the background, with critics calling for spinning off WhatsApp and Instagram. Warren has called for breaking up Big Tech, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/sunday/chris-hughes-facebook-zuckerberg.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">as has Chris Hughes\u003c/a>, a co-founder of Facebook. Former Vice President Joe Biden has said that he is open to the idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11742542,news_11659038,science_1921753\"]Critics believe a breakup is needed because Facebook can squash competitors either by buying them or using its enormous resources to mimic services they offer — as it's done with Snapchat, for example.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Facebook executives have been calling broadly for regulation, though nothing that comes close to breaking it up. In a recent statement, the company's vice president of global affairs, Nick Clegg, said Facebook \"accepts that with success comes accountability. But you don't enforce accountability by calling for the breakup of a successful American company.\" CEO Mark \u003ca href=\"https://www.apnews.com/e7afbd4c480347f8ac809a2e5cd4baca\">Zuckerberg has called for\u003c/a>\"new rules\" in four areas: harmful content, election integrity, privacy and data portability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Facebook has also stressed that it has competitors in messaging and digital communication, including Apple and Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>New York University law professor Eleanor Fox said that because antitrust law focuses on companies that raise prices too much, and Facebook is free, it will be a tough to break up the business. And Facebook commands less than a quarter of worldwide digital advertising, well behind Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Warren, however, has laid out plans for legislation that targets companies with more than $25 billion of annual revenue. It would limit their ability to expand and force parts of their business to operate as separate entities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Google\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>As Google becomes a leading mail provider, search engine and advertising platform, federal regulators are starting to wonder if it needs to be knocked down a bit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Critics say Google's dominance in search has allowed it to squash rivals — notably because Google can show its own products above competitors' or feature its own ads prominently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google might argue it doesn't have an obligation to do business with its rivals at all — an argument that other companies have made when faced with similar challenges, said Sandeep Vaheesan, legal director for Open Markets Institute, which advocates breaking up monopolies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's Google's technology and Google can use it as it wishes, goes one line of reasoning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11711884,news_11680985\"]Google has also faced scrutiny over the practices it uses to get its search and other products featured on smartphones. Some say Google imposes too many self-serving regulations on smartphone makers who use Google's Android operating system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Google might simply argue that Android users like Google products and want them on their phones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under existing laws, it is difficult to make the case that Google has monopoly power, \"even though I think a lot of people think it's really obvious,\" Fox said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Apple\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Since its opening in 2008, Apple's pioneering app store has given customers instant access to services that entertain, enlighten and engage. But it's also a place where Apple controls all the access and sets commission rates for subscriptions and other purchases made through the apps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If it opens an investigation, the Justice Department is most likely to focus on whether Apple is abusing its veto and pricing power to throttle and gouge its competition. The commissions it collects are also the subject of a consumer lawsuit that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11746776/supreme-court-rules-against-apple-as-kavanaugh-sides-with-liberal-justices\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the Supreme Court recently cleared to proceed\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11746776\"]App makers periodically allege that they are blocked because Apple wants people to use its own services. In a recent example, several makers of apps for managing the amount of time kids can use their iPhones say they were kicked out of the store not long after Apple introduced its own screen-management controls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Apple says it typically blocks only apps with buggy software or features that invade users' privacy. The company likens its rules to merchants deciding what products to carry. Apple also says its store includes apps that compete with its own products, including Google Maps and Google's Chrome browser.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also under criticism is the 30% cut that Apple pockets on new subscription sign-ups during the first year and a 15% slice for renewals. The app store is expected to generate about $16 billion in revenue this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Apple says the commissions cover costs for running the app store, including hiring people to review apps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antitrust regulators could try to impose requirements that lower Apple's commissions or, in a worst-case scenario, force it to spin off the app store. The latter option, though, could hurt consumers by making iPhones and other Apple products more cumbersome to use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wedbush Securities analyst Daniel Ives likened a breakup to \"a complex and almost impossible Siamese twin operation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Amazon\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The only one of the major tech companies not based in the Bay Area, Amazon has grown from an online bookseller into a gigantic e-commerce player with its tentacles in everything from web hosting to streaming video to groceries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The European Union's antitrust chief has been conducting an early-stage probe into whether Amazon is using data to gain an edge on third-party merchants, who are both its customers and rivals. Italy has been looking into whether Amazon abused its dominance by offering preferential treatment to companies that used Amazon's own delivery-management services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cicilline, the congressman, said Amazon has identified bestselling products elsewhere, rolled out replicas under its own brand and then steered customers to its own products over those of its rivals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Warren tweeted in April that big tech companies like Amazon should be broken up, Amazon tweeted back: \"Walmart is much larger.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/amazonnews/status/1120780868614627328\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amazon CEO and founder Jeff Bezos made a similar case in a recent letter to shareholders: \"Amazon today remains a small player in global retail. We represent a low single-digit percentage of the retail market, and there are much larger retailers in every country where we operate. And that's largely because nearly 90% of retail remains offline, in brick and mortar stores.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Amazon does dominate online. Market research company eMarketer expects Amazon to account for 52% of all online sales in the U.S. this year, up from 48% last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>_____\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Associated Press writers Mae Anderson in New York; Michael Liedtke in Cupertino, California; Matt O'Brien in Providence, Rhode Island; and Joseph Pisani in Las Vegas contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As federal regulators and Congressional representatives have called for a closer investigation into the big tech companies, here are the cases that could be brought against Facebook, Google, Apple and Amazon.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1580429099,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":38,"wordCount":1326},"headData":{"title":"Is 'Big Tech' Too Big? 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A Look at Growing Antitrust Scrutiny","source":"News","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/news/","nprByline":"Barbara Ortutay and Rachel Lerman\u003cbr>Associated Press","path":"/news/11752549/is-big-tech-too-big-a-look-at-growing-antitrust-scrutiny","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Is Big Tech headed for a big breakup?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The U.S. Justice Department and the Federal Trade Commission are moving to investigate Google, Facebook, Amazon and Apple over their aggressive business practices, and the House Judiciary Committee has announced \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11732620/targeting-online-privacy-congress-sets-a-new-tone-with-big-tech\">an unprecedented antitrust probe\u003c/a>, promising \"a top-to-bottom review of the market power held by giant tech platforms.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11732213,news_11732620","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>In addition, at least two 2020 presidential hopefuls have \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11732213/democratic-candidates-target-tech-giants-who-are-major-party-donors\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">expressed support for breaking up some of technology's biggest players\u003c/a> amid concerns they have become too powerful. Before the California Democratic Party State Convention in San Francisco last weekend, Sen. Elizabeth Warren also unveiled a billboard near the main Caltrain station that called to \"Break Up Big Tech.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Experts say breakups are unlikely in the short term, and Rep. David Cicilline, the Rhode Island Democrat who leads the subcommittee pursuing the House investigation, called such measures a \"last resort.\" But even without that, Facebook, Google, Amazon and Apple could face new restrictions on their power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google, Facebook, Amazon and Apple all declined to comment on the investigations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's a look at the cases that could be brought against them and what their defenses could be.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Facebook\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>With 2.4 billion users, $56 billion in revenue last year and a name that's synonymous with social media, Facebook is certainly big. But is it an illegal, competition-crushing monopoly?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Federal regulators are already \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11742542/facebook-anticipates-an-ftc-privacy-fine-of-up-to-5-billion\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">investigating the company's privacy practices\u003c/a>. But the antitrust question has been rumbling in the background, with critics calling for spinning off WhatsApp and Instagram. Warren has called for breaking up Big Tech, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/sunday/chris-hughes-facebook-zuckerberg.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">as has Chris Hughes\u003c/a>, a co-founder of Facebook. Former Vice President Joe Biden has said that he is open to the idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11742542,news_11659038,science_1921753","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Critics believe a breakup is needed because Facebook can squash competitors either by buying them or using its enormous resources to mimic services they offer — as it's done with Snapchat, for example.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Facebook executives have been calling broadly for regulation, though nothing that comes close to breaking it up. In a recent statement, the company's vice president of global affairs, Nick Clegg, said Facebook \"accepts that with success comes accountability. But you don't enforce accountability by calling for the breakup of a successful American company.\" CEO Mark \u003ca href=\"https://www.apnews.com/e7afbd4c480347f8ac809a2e5cd4baca\">Zuckerberg has called for\u003c/a>\"new rules\" in four areas: harmful content, election integrity, privacy and data portability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Facebook has also stressed that it has competitors in messaging and digital communication, including Apple and Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>New York University law professor Eleanor Fox said that because antitrust law focuses on companies that raise prices too much, and Facebook is free, it will be a tough to break up the business. And Facebook commands less than a quarter of worldwide digital advertising, well behind Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Warren, however, has laid out plans for legislation that targets companies with more than $25 billion of annual revenue. It would limit their ability to expand and force parts of their business to operate as separate entities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Google\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>As Google becomes a leading mail provider, search engine and advertising platform, federal regulators are starting to wonder if it needs to be knocked down a bit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Critics say Google's dominance in search has allowed it to squash rivals — notably because Google can show its own products above competitors' or feature its own ads prominently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google might argue it doesn't have an obligation to do business with its rivals at all — an argument that other companies have made when faced with similar challenges, said Sandeep Vaheesan, legal director for Open Markets Institute, which advocates breaking up monopolies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's Google's technology and Google can use it as it wishes, goes one line of reasoning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11711884,news_11680985","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Google has also faced scrutiny over the practices it uses to get its search and other products featured on smartphones. Some say Google imposes too many self-serving regulations on smartphone makers who use Google's Android operating system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Google might simply argue that Android users like Google products and want them on their phones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under existing laws, it is difficult to make the case that Google has monopoly power, \"even though I think a lot of people think it's really obvious,\" Fox said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Apple\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Since its opening in 2008, Apple's pioneering app store has given customers instant access to services that entertain, enlighten and engage. But it's also a place where Apple controls all the access and sets commission rates for subscriptions and other purchases made through the apps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If it opens an investigation, the Justice Department is most likely to focus on whether Apple is abusing its veto and pricing power to throttle and gouge its competition. The commissions it collects are also the subject of a consumer lawsuit that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11746776/supreme-court-rules-against-apple-as-kavanaugh-sides-with-liberal-justices\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the Supreme Court recently cleared to proceed\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11746776","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>App makers periodically allege that they are blocked because Apple wants people to use its own services. In a recent example, several makers of apps for managing the amount of time kids can use their iPhones say they were kicked out of the store not long after Apple introduced its own screen-management controls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Apple says it typically blocks only apps with buggy software or features that invade users' privacy. The company likens its rules to merchants deciding what products to carry. Apple also says its store includes apps that compete with its own products, including Google Maps and Google's Chrome browser.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also under criticism is the 30% cut that Apple pockets on new subscription sign-ups during the first year and a 15% slice for renewals. The app store is expected to generate about $16 billion in revenue this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Apple says the commissions cover costs for running the app store, including hiring people to review apps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antitrust regulators could try to impose requirements that lower Apple's commissions or, in a worst-case scenario, force it to spin off the app store. The latter option, though, could hurt consumers by making iPhones and other Apple products more cumbersome to use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wedbush Securities analyst Daniel Ives likened a breakup to \"a complex and almost impossible Siamese twin operation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Amazon\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The only one of the major tech companies not based in the Bay Area, Amazon has grown from an online bookseller into a gigantic e-commerce player with its tentacles in everything from web hosting to streaming video to groceries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The European Union's antitrust chief has been conducting an early-stage probe into whether Amazon is using data to gain an edge on third-party merchants, who are both its customers and rivals. Italy has been looking into whether Amazon abused its dominance by offering preferential treatment to companies that used Amazon's own delivery-management services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cicilline, the congressman, said Amazon has identified bestselling products elsewhere, rolled out replicas under its own brand and then steered customers to its own products over those of its rivals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Warren tweeted in April that big tech companies like Amazon should be broken up, Amazon tweeted back: \"Walmart is much larger.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1120780868614627328"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Amazon CEO and founder Jeff Bezos made a similar case in a recent letter to shareholders: \"Amazon today remains a small player in global retail. We represent a low single-digit percentage of the retail market, and there are much larger retailers in every country where we operate. And that's largely because nearly 90% of retail remains offline, in brick and mortar stores.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Amazon does dominate online. Market research company eMarketer expects Amazon to account for 52% of all online sales in the U.S. this year, up from 48% last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>_____\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Associated Press writers Mae Anderson in New York; Michael Liedtke in Cupertino, California; Matt O'Brien in Providence, Rhode Island; and Joseph Pisani in Las Vegas contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11752549/is-big-tech-too-big-a-look-at-growing-antitrust-scrutiny","authors":["byline_news_11752549"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_13","news_248"],"tags":["news_1611","news_19182","news_27370","news_249","news_93","news_2125","news_6176"],"featImg":"news_11752631","label":"source_news_11752549"},"arts_13741259":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13741259","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"arts","id":"13741259","score":null,"sort":[1501106447000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"bay-area-hip-hop-on-soundclouds-uncertain-future","title":"SoundCloud’s Uncertain Forecast Strikes Worry for Bay Area Artists","publishDate":1501106447,"format":"image","headTitle":"SoundCloud’s Uncertain Forecast Strikes Worry for Bay Area Artists | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>According to a \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/12/soundshroud/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recent TechCrunch report\u003c/a>, SoundCloud has only enough funding to last through the beginning of October. And while the official word from its PR team is that the popular streaming service is fully funded through the end of the fourth quarter, it’s evident that SoundCloud hasn’t been successful at creating a profitable business model. The Berlin-based company recently \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2017/07/06/soundcloud-cuts-173-jobs-shutters-san-francisco-and-london-offices/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">laid off 40 percent of its staff and closed its London and San Francisco offices\u003c/a>, leaving users and staff doubting the platform’s longevity. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SoundCloud’s primary appeal lies in its 150 million-plus user-uploaded songs, DJ mixes, and podcasts otherwise unavailable on mainstream streaming services such as Spotify, Tidal, Pandora, and Apple Music. Whereas artists must pay digital distributors like \u003ca href=\"https://www.mondotunes.com/%20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MondoTunes (formerly TuneCore)\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://members.cdbaby.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CD Baby\u003c/a> to get their music onto these streaming giants, on SoundCloud, musicians upload their work for free. Songs on SoundCloud have the potential to go viral thanks to its repost feature — which works the same way retweets do on Twitter — making it possible for independent artists to attract audiences without record deals, publicists, or placements on popular playlists. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“SoundCloud was this phenomenon that allowed you to get discovered,” says Evangeline Elder, the manager of Richmond singer Rayana Jay. “That’s where a lot of curators were getting their insights from on who’s the next artist to possibly to blow up or who’s emerging.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12928309\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-800x466.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"466\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-12928309\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-800x466.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-160x93.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-768x447.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-1020x594.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-1920x1118.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-1180x687.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-960x559.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-240x140.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-375x218.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-520x303.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rayana Jay’s “Magic” accumulated a quarter-million listens in just two weeks on SoundCloud. \u003ccite>(Vanessa Vigil)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Thanks to SoundCloud’s social sharing functions, previously unheard-of artists from niche regional scenes, like Philadelphia’s Lil Uzi Vert and South Florida’s Kodak Black, have risen to mainstream fame. The term “\u003ca href=\"http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/look-at-me-the-noisy-soundcloud-revolution-changing-rap-w485101\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SoundCloud rap\u003c/a>” is now used — though, more often than not, in a derogatory or tongue-in-cheek way — to describe the alternative, youthful rap style that flourishes on the platform (a scene that, according to critics, has become derivative of the platform’s most successful songs).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Now, if SoundCloud can’t recover after all these reports I’m seeing, it’s going to mean a lot for artists who don’t have infrastructure or a management team or publicists,” Elder continues, adding that viral hits on the app, like Xxxtentacion’s “Look At Me,” have made careers almost overnight. She fears that if this free, democratic platform were to lose its relevance because of corporate upheaval, “the freedom of being an independent artist without a plan [would be] taken away.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SoundCloud has been hugely advantageous for local artists such as Oakland’s Kamaiyah, who quickly ascended to an Interscope deal and a collaboration with Drake off the strength of her self-released single, “\u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/kamaiyah/how-does-it-feel-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">How Does It Feel\u003c/a>.” According to artists and industry insiders, the Bay Area is notorious for having an insular music scene that mainstream labels tend to overlook. The ability to use SoundCloud to bypass industry gatekeepers has been crucial for the Bay Area’s newest breakout stars. Elder recalls, for instance, how Rayana Jay, the singer she manages, received an outpouring of business opportunities after her song “Magic” accumulated 250,000 plays on SoundCloud in its first two weeks. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13741654\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"East Bay artist Rexx Life Raj has benefitted from SoundCloud's viral opportunities.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13741654\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-768x432.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-960x540.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-240x135.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-375x211.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-520x293.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander.jpg 1100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">East Bay artist Rexx Life Raj has benefitted from SoundCloud’s viral opportunities. \u003ccite>(Marco Alexander)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Berkeley rapper Rexx Life Raj had a similar experience when the website Hot New Hip-Hop reposted his song “Shit n’ Floss” on its SoundCloud page, catapulting it to over 734,000 streams. “It boosted the record in a crazy way,” he says. “It put it into a million people’s phones.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the past several years, SoundCloud has struggled to monetize its business model, introducing ads and offering two tiers of ad-free subscriptions, SoundCloud Go and SoundCloud Go+. But according to the TechCrunch report that broke the news about the company’s recent layoffs, SoundCloud’s number of listeners is said to have fallen from 175 million to somewhere near 70 million over the past three years. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Soundcloud made a mistake when it lost track of its strengths,” says Tyrese Johnson, the operations manager of popular Bay Area rap blog Thizzler.com. “I think what they should’ve been doing is finding ways to cultivate the independent artists they already have there and finding ways to get them paid as opposed to trying to go to war with Spotify and Apple Music. It’s not their lane.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the news broke about SoundCloud’s lack of funding, artists have been warning each other to back up their catalogues and upload them to other platforms such as YouTube. But \u003ca href=\"https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/google-mulling-soundcloud-buyout-say-whispers-sony-universals-stakes-revealed/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">some industry insiders speculate\u003c/a> that it’s unlikely that SoundCloud will disappear off the web completely, anticipating a corporate buyout. In either case, the platform’s poor financial standing and declining listenership raises important questions about what will happen when the defining music platform of this decade loses its relevance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“[Artists] need to take advantage of the changing market,” says Oakland rapper Beejus. “If you’re not putting yourself in a position where you’re able to own your rights where you can upload your music to streaming sites [like Spotify,] which I think will be the next step of this, then you need to reevaluate what you’re doing and kind of step it up.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13741653\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-1020x1020.jpg\" alt=\"DJ Neto is among those who draw a parallel between SoundCloud and MySpace.\" width=\"640\" height=\"640\" class=\"size-large wp-image-13741653\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-160x160.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-800x800.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-768x768.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-960x960.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-240x240.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-375x375.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-520x520.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-32x32.jpg 32w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-50x50.jpg 50w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-64x64.jpg 64w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-96x96.jpg 96w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-128x128.jpg 128w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-150x150.jpg 150w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">DJ Neto is among those who draw a parallel between SoundCloud and MySpace. \u003ccite>(Chris Sanchez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Still, other artists question what will happen to the myriad DIY music subcultures on SoundCloud if the platform fails to retain its listeners. Oakland DJ Albert Luera, aka DJ Neto, compares the SoundCloud phenomenon to what happened to MySpace in the late 2000s, when the social network lost most of its users after becoming flooded with ads. As a result, many of the music subcultures that flourished on MySpace — such as the “bloghouse” electronic scene adjacent to Steve Aoki’s Dim Mak Records or the Bay Area’s hyphy movement — faded into obscurity. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Luera described his recent experience of poring over obscure MySpace profiles to find old hyphy songs he remembered from a decade ago. “If the loss of MySpace is any indication about how the loss of SoundCloud is gonna go, it was impossible to find those songs in any sort of quality. It was like googling lyrics and trying to find some message board that was gonna have it,” he says, adding that he fears that much of the music on SoundCloud will similarly be lost. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sela Oner, a Vallejo producer who once compiled several volumes of \u003ca href=\"http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/644-footworks-forgotten-archives-are-making-the-best-compilations-youve-never-heard/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">forgotten 2000s Chicago footwork music by scouring the remains of MySpace\u003c/a>, says that the potential demise of SoundCloud might not be such a bad thing. In his view, some artists have gotten too stuck in the “SoundCloud rap” formula. “It’s affected music a lot, that’s why things sounds the same. So if SoundCloud dies, I think we kind of need that refresh.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Music is always changing, the way we consume media is always changing,” says Thizzler’s Tyrese Johnson. “If SoundCloud were to die today, it would suck, but it wouldn’t be the end.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-800x78.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12127869\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\"> \u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The uncertain future of SoundCloud, the audio-hosting platform where many Bay Area artists have thrived, leaves musicians and performers worried.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1705029934,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":1272},"headData":{"title":"SoundCloud’s Uncertain Forecast Strikes Worry for Bay Area Artists | KQED","description":"The uncertain future of SoundCloud, the audio-hosting platform where many Bay Area artists have thrived, leaves musicians and performers worried.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"SoundCloud’s Uncertain Forecast Strikes Worry for Bay Area Artists","datePublished":"2017-07-26T22:00:47.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-12T03:25:34.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"Nastia Voynovskaya","path":"/arts/13741259/bay-area-hip-hop-on-soundclouds-uncertain-future","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>According to a \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/12/soundshroud/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recent TechCrunch report\u003c/a>, SoundCloud has only enough funding to last through the beginning of October. And while the official word from its PR team is that the popular streaming service is fully funded through the end of the fourth quarter, it’s evident that SoundCloud hasn’t been successful at creating a profitable business model. The Berlin-based company recently \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2017/07/06/soundcloud-cuts-173-jobs-shutters-san-francisco-and-london-offices/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">laid off 40 percent of its staff and closed its London and San Francisco offices\u003c/a>, leaving users and staff doubting the platform’s longevity. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SoundCloud’s primary appeal lies in its 150 million-plus user-uploaded songs, DJ mixes, and podcasts otherwise unavailable on mainstream streaming services such as Spotify, Tidal, Pandora, and Apple Music. Whereas artists must pay digital distributors like \u003ca href=\"https://www.mondotunes.com/%20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MondoTunes (formerly TuneCore)\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://members.cdbaby.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CD Baby\u003c/a> to get their music onto these streaming giants, on SoundCloud, musicians upload their work for free. Songs on SoundCloud have the potential to go viral thanks to its repost feature — which works the same way retweets do on Twitter — making it possible for independent artists to attract audiences without record deals, publicists, or placements on popular playlists. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“SoundCloud was this phenomenon that allowed you to get discovered,” says Evangeline Elder, the manager of Richmond singer Rayana Jay. “That’s where a lot of curators were getting their insights from on who’s the next artist to possibly to blow up or who’s emerging.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12928309\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-800x466.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"466\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-12928309\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-800x466.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-160x93.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-768x447.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-1020x594.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-1920x1118.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-1180x687.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-960x559.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-240x140.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-375x218.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671-520x303.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/Rayana-Jay-2017-3-by-Vanessa-Vigil-e1490033421671.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rayana Jay’s “Magic” accumulated a quarter-million listens in just two weeks on SoundCloud. \u003ccite>(Vanessa Vigil)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Thanks to SoundCloud’s social sharing functions, previously unheard-of artists from niche regional scenes, like Philadelphia’s Lil Uzi Vert and South Florida’s Kodak Black, have risen to mainstream fame. The term “\u003ca href=\"http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/look-at-me-the-noisy-soundcloud-revolution-changing-rap-w485101\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SoundCloud rap\u003c/a>” is now used — though, more often than not, in a derogatory or tongue-in-cheek way — to describe the alternative, youthful rap style that flourishes on the platform (a scene that, according to critics, has become derivative of the platform’s most successful songs).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Now, if SoundCloud can’t recover after all these reports I’m seeing, it’s going to mean a lot for artists who don’t have infrastructure or a management team or publicists,” Elder continues, adding that viral hits on the app, like Xxxtentacion’s “Look At Me,” have made careers almost overnight. She fears that if this free, democratic platform were to lose its relevance because of corporate upheaval, “the freedom of being an independent artist without a plan [would be] taken away.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SoundCloud has been hugely advantageous for local artists such as Oakland’s Kamaiyah, who quickly ascended to an Interscope deal and a collaboration with Drake off the strength of her self-released single, “\u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/kamaiyah/how-does-it-feel-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">How Does It Feel\u003c/a>.” According to artists and industry insiders, the Bay Area is notorious for having an insular music scene that mainstream labels tend to overlook. The ability to use SoundCloud to bypass industry gatekeepers has been crucial for the Bay Area’s newest breakout stars. Elder recalls, for instance, how Rayana Jay, the singer she manages, received an outpouring of business opportunities after her song “Magic” accumulated 250,000 plays on SoundCloud in its first two weeks. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13741654\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"East Bay artist Rexx Life Raj has benefitted from SoundCloud's viral opportunities.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13741654\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-768x432.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-960x540.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-240x135.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-375x211.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander-520x293.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/RexxLifeRaj.Marco_.Alexander.jpg 1100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">East Bay artist Rexx Life Raj has benefitted from SoundCloud’s viral opportunities. \u003ccite>(Marco Alexander)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Berkeley rapper Rexx Life Raj had a similar experience when the website Hot New Hip-Hop reposted his song “Shit n’ Floss” on its SoundCloud page, catapulting it to over 734,000 streams. “It boosted the record in a crazy way,” he says. “It put it into a million people’s phones.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the past several years, SoundCloud has struggled to monetize its business model, introducing ads and offering two tiers of ad-free subscriptions, SoundCloud Go and SoundCloud Go+. But according to the TechCrunch report that broke the news about the company’s recent layoffs, SoundCloud’s number of listeners is said to have fallen from 175 million to somewhere near 70 million over the past three years. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Soundcloud made a mistake when it lost track of its strengths,” says Tyrese Johnson, the operations manager of popular Bay Area rap blog Thizzler.com. “I think what they should’ve been doing is finding ways to cultivate the independent artists they already have there and finding ways to get them paid as opposed to trying to go to war with Spotify and Apple Music. It’s not their lane.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the news broke about SoundCloud’s lack of funding, artists have been warning each other to back up their catalogues and upload them to other platforms such as YouTube. But \u003ca href=\"https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/google-mulling-soundcloud-buyout-say-whispers-sony-universals-stakes-revealed/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">some industry insiders speculate\u003c/a> that it’s unlikely that SoundCloud will disappear off the web completely, anticipating a corporate buyout. In either case, the platform’s poor financial standing and declining listenership raises important questions about what will happen when the defining music platform of this decade loses its relevance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“[Artists] need to take advantage of the changing market,” says Oakland rapper Beejus. “If you’re not putting yourself in a position where you’re able to own your rights where you can upload your music to streaming sites [like Spotify,] which I think will be the next step of this, then you need to reevaluate what you’re doing and kind of step it up.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13741653\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-1020x1020.jpg\" alt=\"DJ Neto is among those who draw a parallel between SoundCloud and MySpace.\" width=\"640\" height=\"640\" class=\"size-large wp-image-13741653\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-160x160.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-800x800.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-768x768.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-960x960.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-240x240.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-375x375.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-520x520.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-32x32.jpg 32w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-50x50.jpg 50w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-64x64.jpg 64w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-96x96.jpg 96w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-128x128.jpg 128w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez-150x150.jpg 150w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/07/dj-neto-by-chris-sanchez.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">DJ Neto is among those who draw a parallel between SoundCloud and MySpace. \u003ccite>(Chris Sanchez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Still, other artists question what will happen to the myriad DIY music subcultures on SoundCloud if the platform fails to retain its listeners. Oakland DJ Albert Luera, aka DJ Neto, compares the SoundCloud phenomenon to what happened to MySpace in the late 2000s, when the social network lost most of its users after becoming flooded with ads. As a result, many of the music subcultures that flourished on MySpace — such as the “bloghouse” electronic scene adjacent to Steve Aoki’s Dim Mak Records or the Bay Area’s hyphy movement — faded into obscurity. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Luera described his recent experience of poring over obscure MySpace profiles to find old hyphy songs he remembered from a decade ago. “If the loss of MySpace is any indication about how the loss of SoundCloud is gonna go, it was impossible to find those songs in any sort of quality. It was like googling lyrics and trying to find some message board that was gonna have it,” he says, adding that he fears that much of the music on SoundCloud will similarly be lost. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sela Oner, a Vallejo producer who once compiled several volumes of \u003ca href=\"http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/644-footworks-forgotten-archives-are-making-the-best-compilations-youve-never-heard/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">forgotten 2000s Chicago footwork music by scouring the remains of MySpace\u003c/a>, says that the potential demise of SoundCloud might not be such a bad thing. In his view, some artists have gotten too stuck in the “SoundCloud rap” formula. “It’s affected music a lot, that’s why things sounds the same. So if SoundCloud dies, I think we kind of need that refresh.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Music is always changing, the way we consume media is always changing,” says Thizzler’s Tyrese Johnson. “If SoundCloud were to die today, it would suck, but it wouldn’t be the end.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-800x78.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12127869\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\"> \u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13741259/bay-area-hip-hop-on-soundclouds-uncertain-future","authors":["byline_arts_13741259"],"categories":["arts_69","arts_235"],"tags":["arts_1118","arts_831","arts_596","arts_1723","arts_1983"],"featImg":"arts_13747576","label":"arts"},"news_11593058":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11593058","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11593058","score":null,"sort":[1501002742000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-united-slate-of-sam-altman-a-tech-investors-call-for-candidates","title":"The United Slate of Sam Altman: A Tech Investor's Call for Candidates","publishDate":1501002742,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s a familiar story. A wealthy business person, actor, real estate mogul (you can fill in the blank here) isn’t happy with government and so runs for office. Sometimes they succeed -- President Trump and former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger -- but often they fail. (See Carly Fiorina and \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/11/03/navarrette.california.whitman/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Meg Whitman\u003c/a>).\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2017/07/AltmanInterview.mp3\" Image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS6844_182551894.jpg\" Title=\"The United Slate of Sam Altman: A Tech Investor's Call for Candidates\" program=\"The California Report\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Tech entrepreneur \u003ca href=\"https://www.ycombinator.com/people/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sam Altman\u003c/a> is taking a different tack. He’s the president of \u003ca href=\"http://www.ycombinator.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Y Combinator\u003c/a>, an incubator that helps entrepreneurs start up their tech companies. After the presidential election, Altman went on a \u003ca href=\"http://blog.samaltman.com/what-i-heard-from-trump-supporters\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">listening tour\u003c/a> to meet voters across the Golden State. He’s also been meeting with policy experts, grass-roots activists and politicos. That has sparked reports that Altman might be considering a \u003ca href=\"https://www.recode.net/2017/5/14/15638046/willie-brown-column-sam-altman-might-run-governor-california-2018\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">run for office\u003c/a>.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of people have tried to convince me to run for governor,” Altman said in an interview with KQED. “ I think I can make a much better impact if I can find a slate of candidates to work together. I think it’s always hard for one person to make a change. I think it’s usually small groups that can do that, and so I’m trying to focus my efforts on this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“This” is the \u003ca href=\"http://unitedslate.samaltman.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">United Slate\u003c/a>. Altman is looking to fund a slate of candidates to run in the 2018 California elections. He’s got a \u003ca href=\"http://unitedslate.samaltman.com/ten-policy-goals.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">platform of 10 policy goals\u003c/a>, among them tackling the housing crisis, universal health care and improving the education system to give students the skills they need for the future. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“I think we’re in the middle of a human socioeconomic revolution,” Altman said. “It will be as big, when we look back at it, as the agricultural revolution or the industrial revolution. And this is the automation revolution. Software and artificial intelligence are going to work in this really fundamental way.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Altman believes both state and federal government aren’t addressing these problems. At the same time, it can’t be missed that the United Slate’s platform is in line with the Democratic Party's. So why not just fund Democratic politicians who are already working on the policies?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“I think we will support some existing candidates,” Altman said. But “we are particularly interested in candidates who are already out there doing good work, but not the chosen ones of the existing party.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Altman says the political parties have become too entrenched and beholden to wealthy donors, and in California to wealthy homeowners. He tells a joke to make his point.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">“In California, you can vote for any Democrat you like as long as it’s the one the California Democratic Party chose for you,” Altman quipped. “And I don’t like that!”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Altman said that since launching the United Slate, he’s discovered that there are a number of people who have been working in government and have new ideas but haven’t been anointed by the Democratic Party. Without that backing, these people can’t raise enough money to run for office.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“They don’t have a fair shot,” he said. “I think there are plenty of people with experience in government who could be great ...\"\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But it’s not just candidates Altman is looking to back. Many of the issues outlined in the United Slate platform will need local buy-in. For example, housing. To this end, Altman said he’s also been talking to grass-roots organizations that are trying to make change locally or propose ballot measures. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Tech investor Sam Altman is calling on candidates to run for the 2018 California elections.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1501105989,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":14,"wordCount":662},"headData":{"title":"The United Slate of Sam Altman: A Tech Investor's Call for Candidates | KQED","description":"Tech investor Sam Altman is calling on candidates to run for the 2018 California elections.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"The United Slate of Sam Altman: A Tech Investor's Call for Candidates","datePublished":"2017-07-25T17:12:22.000Z","dateModified":"2017-07-26T21:53:09.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11593058 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11593058","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/07/25/the-united-slate-of-sam-altman-a-tech-investors-call-for-candidates/","disqusTitle":"The United Slate of Sam Altman: A Tech Investor's Call for Candidates","audioUrl":"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2017/07/AltmanInterview.mp3","guestFields":"0","path":"/news/11593058/the-united-slate-of-sam-altman-a-tech-investors-call-for-candidates","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s a familiar story. A wealthy business person, actor, real estate mogul (you can fill in the blank here) isn’t happy with government and so runs for office. Sometimes they succeed -- President Trump and former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger -- but often they fail. (See Carly Fiorina and \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/11/03/navarrette.california.whitman/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Meg Whitman\u003c/a>).\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2017/07/AltmanInterview.mp3","image":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/RS6844_182551894.jpg","title":"The United Slate of Sam Altman: A Tech Investor's Call for Candidates","program":"The California Report","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Tech entrepreneur \u003ca href=\"https://www.ycombinator.com/people/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sam Altman\u003c/a> is taking a different tack. He’s the president of \u003ca href=\"http://www.ycombinator.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Y Combinator\u003c/a>, an incubator that helps entrepreneurs start up their tech companies. After the presidential election, Altman went on a \u003ca href=\"http://blog.samaltman.com/what-i-heard-from-trump-supporters\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">listening tour\u003c/a> to meet voters across the Golden State. He’s also been meeting with policy experts, grass-roots activists and politicos. That has sparked reports that Altman might be considering a \u003ca href=\"https://www.recode.net/2017/5/14/15638046/willie-brown-column-sam-altman-might-run-governor-california-2018\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">run for office\u003c/a>.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of people have tried to convince me to run for governor,” Altman said in an interview with KQED. “ I think I can make a much better impact if I can find a slate of candidates to work together. I think it’s always hard for one person to make a change. I think it’s usually small groups that can do that, and so I’m trying to focus my efforts on this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“This” is the \u003ca href=\"http://unitedslate.samaltman.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">United Slate\u003c/a>. Altman is looking to fund a slate of candidates to run in the 2018 California elections. He’s got a \u003ca href=\"http://unitedslate.samaltman.com/ten-policy-goals.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">platform of 10 policy goals\u003c/a>, among them tackling the housing crisis, universal health care and improving the education system to give students the skills they need for the future. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“I think we’re in the middle of a human socioeconomic revolution,” Altman said. “It will be as big, when we look back at it, as the agricultural revolution or the industrial revolution. And this is the automation revolution. Software and artificial intelligence are going to work in this really fundamental way.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Altman believes both state and federal government aren’t addressing these problems. At the same time, it can’t be missed that the United Slate’s platform is in line with the Democratic Party's. So why not just fund Democratic politicians who are already working on the policies?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“I think we will support some existing candidates,” Altman said. But “we are particularly interested in candidates who are already out there doing good work, but not the chosen ones of the existing party.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Altman says the political parties have become too entrenched and beholden to wealthy donors, and in California to wealthy homeowners. He tells a joke to make his point.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">“In California, you can vote for any Democrat you like as long as it’s the one the California Democratic Party chose for you,” Altman quipped. “And I don’t like that!”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Altman said that since launching the United Slate, he’s discovered that there are a number of people who have been working in government and have new ideas but haven’t been anointed by the Democratic Party. Without that backing, these people can’t raise enough money to run for office.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“They don’t have a fair shot,” he said. “I think there are plenty of people with experience in government who could be great ...\"\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But it’s not just candidates Altman is looking to back. Many of the issues outlined in the United Slate platform will need local buy-in. For example, housing. To this end, Altman said he’s also been talking to grass-roots organizations that are trying to make change locally or propose ballot measures. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11593058/the-united-slate-of-sam-altman-a-tech-investors-call-for-candidates","authors":["11099"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_13","news_248"],"tags":["news_20156","news_21316","news_17286","news_6176"],"featImg":"news_11593110","label":"news_72"},"news_11004399":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11004399","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11004399","score":null,"sort":[1467222889000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"mayor-business-groups-line-up-to-fight-s-f-tech-tax-proposal","title":"Mayor, Business Groups Line Up to Fight S.F. Tech Tax Proposal","publishDate":1467222889,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Boomtown | News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>Updated at 6:15a.m., Friday to include Supervisor London Breed's position on the proposal and comments by an aide to Supervisor John Avalos.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mayor Ed Lee, at least five members of the Board of Supervisors, the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce and a group that represents the city's tech sector are opposed to a new proposal to tax the technology industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, Supervisor Eric Mar unveiled a measure for the November ballot that would impose a 1.5 percent payroll tax on tech firms, which would be identified by their IRS tax identification codes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure, co-sponsored by Supervisors David Campos and Aaron Peskin, would affect dozens of large companies. The money would go toward affordable housing and homeless services at a time when many are blaming the tech industry for the city's affordability crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"aligncenter\">\u003cstrong>Homelessness is a complex issue. \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/series/sf-homeless-project\" target=\"_blank\">Learn more >>\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/series/sf-homeless-project\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11004769\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/06/sfproject3-800x240.jpg\" alt=\"sfproject3\" width=\"800\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/06/sfproject3.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/06/sfproject3-400x120.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"It's time to require big tech companies to pay their fair share,\" Mar said Wednesday. \"This is not a measure that is demonizing tech workers. It's merely asking them ... to address the issues that they are a part of causing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mar said the tax would generate around $120 million a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of what's called the \"Fair Share Tech Tax\" include community groups such as San Francisco Rising, Jobs with Justice and the Coalition on Homelessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"All of our folks are facing displacement, and this is due in large part to the tech boom,\" said Kung Feng, lead organizer for Jobs with Justice, at a press conference Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In order to truly address homelessness in San Francisco, we need a sustainable revenue source, we need to get serious about it, and in order to do that we need funding,\" said Jennifer Friedenbach, the homeless coalition's executive director.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The proposal will require six votes from members of the Board of Supervisors to get on the fall ballot. The measure is expected to get its first hearing next month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supervisors Mark Farrell, Scott Wiener, Norman Yee, Jane Kim and London Breed do not plan to vote for the measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"During a time when it's looking increasingly like we're heading towards a recession, to put a job-killing tax on the ballot is the worst idea I can think of,\" said Supervisor Mark Farrell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An aide to Supervisor Kim, who tends to vote with the more progressive side of the board, said it's unlikely she'll vote for the proposal in its current state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, Kim, who's running against Wiener for a seat in the State Senate, said it addresses the kinds of problems that need to be solved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The proposal reflects the deep divide in our city as a few have prospered while so many are pushed out by rising costs,\" Kim said in an email. \"There is a growing problem that requires creative solutions that we can all support regardless of the industry in which you work.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supervisor John Avalos, one of the most progressive members of the board, has yet to make a decision, according to one of his aides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"John plans to make a decision when all of the various proposed taxes are before the Board,\" said Jeremy Pollock. \"He's concerned about overloading the ballot with too many taxes and he's hoping the board can winnow down the list some.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A representative for Mayor Ed Lee is adamant in opposition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Why are we punishing businesses for creating jobs?\" mayoral spokeswoman Deirdre Hussey asked. \"This job-killing ballot measure puts San Francisco's economic stability at risk and will return this city back to the days of the Great Recession. Rather than scapegoat a sector of our economy, we should be working together to find solutions to housing and homelessness, such as the sales tax.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A group representing tech companies also criticized the idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Supervisor Mar should know better,\" said Alex Tourk, a spokesman for \u003ca href=\"https://sfciti.org/\">San Francisco Citizens Initiative for Technology and Innovation\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Extorting more money from an industry who has helped ensure that we have the lowest unemployment rate in the country is ludicrous,\" Tourk said. \"We need engagement and innovative partnerships to solve this problem, not finger-pointing and divisiveness.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Add the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce to the list of forces expected to battle the proposal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This sends a terrible message to the business community that the city is not a good partner,\" said Juliana Bunim, a chamber spokeswoman. \"Singling out one industry and punishing its success is not the way to create and maintain a thriving economy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the proposed tax makes it to the November ballot, it would need a two-thirds majority of votes to pass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One longtime housing advocate in a neighborhood that's seen the high-profile arrival of a number of tech firms says it's unlikely the tax will pass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think it has no chance,\" said Randy Shaw, director of the Tenderloin Housing Clinic. \"It raises questions why we are taxing tech and not large insurance companies, banks and oil companies.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>City tax breaks for some tech companies have been \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2011/04/05/watch-live-sf-supervisors-vote-on-twitter-tax-break\" target=\"_blank\">the subject of controversy\u003c/a> in recent years. At Mayor Lee's urging, the Board of Supervisors \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2011/04/05/watch-live-sf-supervisors-vote-on-twitter-tax-break\" target=\"_blank\">agreed in 2011\u003c/a> to grant a temporary payroll tax exemption to firms located in the Mid-Market area -- a move designed to lure Twitter and other enterprises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The so-called Twitter tax break is set to expire next year.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Measure, which faces major political obstacles to get on November ballot, would raise funds for housing and homeless services.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1468865593,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":31,"wordCount":910},"headData":{"title":"Mayor, Business Groups Line Up to Fight S.F. Tech Tax Proposal | KQED","description":"Measure, which faces major political obstacles to get on November ballot, would raise funds for housing and homeless services.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Mayor, Business Groups Line Up to Fight S.F. 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Tech Tax Proposal","path":"/news/11004399/mayor-business-groups-line-up-to-fight-s-f-tech-tax-proposal","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Updated at 6:15a.m., Friday to include Supervisor London Breed's position on the proposal and comments by an aide to Supervisor John Avalos.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mayor Ed Lee, at least five members of the Board of Supervisors, the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce and a group that represents the city's tech sector are opposed to a new proposal to tax the technology industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, Supervisor Eric Mar unveiled a measure for the November ballot that would impose a 1.5 percent payroll tax on tech firms, which would be identified by their IRS tax identification codes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure, co-sponsored by Supervisors David Campos and Aaron Peskin, would affect dozens of large companies. The money would go toward affordable housing and homeless services at a time when many are blaming the tech industry for the city's affordability crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"aligncenter\">\u003cstrong>Homelessness is a complex issue. \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/series/sf-homeless-project\" target=\"_blank\">Learn more >>\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/series/sf-homeless-project\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11004769\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/06/sfproject3-800x240.jpg\" alt=\"sfproject3\" width=\"800\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/06/sfproject3.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/06/sfproject3-400x120.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"It's time to require big tech companies to pay their fair share,\" Mar said Wednesday. \"This is not a measure that is demonizing tech workers. It's merely asking them ... to address the issues that they are a part of causing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mar said the tax would generate around $120 million a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of what's called the \"Fair Share Tech Tax\" include community groups such as San Francisco Rising, Jobs with Justice and the Coalition on Homelessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"All of our folks are facing displacement, and this is due in large part to the tech boom,\" said Kung Feng, lead organizer for Jobs with Justice, at a press conference Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In order to truly address homelessness in San Francisco, we need a sustainable revenue source, we need to get serious about it, and in order to do that we need funding,\" said Jennifer Friedenbach, the homeless coalition's executive director.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The proposal will require six votes from members of the Board of Supervisors to get on the fall ballot. The measure is expected to get its first hearing next month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supervisors Mark Farrell, Scott Wiener, Norman Yee, Jane Kim and London Breed do not plan to vote for the measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"During a time when it's looking increasingly like we're heading towards a recession, to put a job-killing tax on the ballot is the worst idea I can think of,\" said Supervisor Mark Farrell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An aide to Supervisor Kim, who tends to vote with the more progressive side of the board, said it's unlikely she'll vote for the proposal in its current state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, Kim, who's running against Wiener for a seat in the State Senate, said it addresses the kinds of problems that need to be solved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The proposal reflects the deep divide in our city as a few have prospered while so many are pushed out by rising costs,\" Kim said in an email. \"There is a growing problem that requires creative solutions that we can all support regardless of the industry in which you work.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supervisor John Avalos, one of the most progressive members of the board, has yet to make a decision, according to one of his aides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"John plans to make a decision when all of the various proposed taxes are before the Board,\" said Jeremy Pollock. \"He's concerned about overloading the ballot with too many taxes and he's hoping the board can winnow down the list some.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A representative for Mayor Ed Lee is adamant in opposition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Why are we punishing businesses for creating jobs?\" mayoral spokeswoman Deirdre Hussey asked. \"This job-killing ballot measure puts San Francisco's economic stability at risk and will return this city back to the days of the Great Recession. Rather than scapegoat a sector of our economy, we should be working together to find solutions to housing and homelessness, such as the sales tax.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A group representing tech companies also criticized the idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Supervisor Mar should know better,\" said Alex Tourk, a spokesman for \u003ca href=\"https://sfciti.org/\">San Francisco Citizens Initiative for Technology and Innovation\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Extorting more money from an industry who has helped ensure that we have the lowest unemployment rate in the country is ludicrous,\" Tourk said. \"We need engagement and innovative partnerships to solve this problem, not finger-pointing and divisiveness.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Add the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce to the list of forces expected to battle the proposal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This sends a terrible message to the business community that the city is not a good partner,\" said Juliana Bunim, a chamber spokeswoman. \"Singling out one industry and punishing its success is not the way to create and maintain a thriving economy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the proposed tax makes it to the November ballot, it would need a two-thirds majority of votes to pass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One longtime housing advocate in a neighborhood that's seen the high-profile arrival of a number of tech firms says it's unlikely the tax will pass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think it has no chance,\" said Randy Shaw, director of the Tenderloin Housing Clinic. \"It raises questions why we are taxing tech and not large insurance companies, banks and oil companies.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>City tax breaks for some tech companies have been \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2011/04/05/watch-live-sf-supervisors-vote-on-twitter-tax-break\" target=\"_blank\">the subject of controversy\u003c/a> in recent years. At Mayor Lee's urging, the Board of Supervisors \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2011/04/05/watch-live-sf-supervisors-vote-on-twitter-tax-break\" target=\"_blank\">agreed in 2011\u003c/a> to grant a temporary payroll tax exemption to firms located in the Mid-Market area -- a move designed to lure Twitter and other enterprises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The so-called Twitter tax break is set to expire next year.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11004399/mayor-business-groups-line-up-to-fight-s-f-tech-tax-proposal","authors":["258"],"programs":["news_6944"],"series":["news_17411"],"categories":["news_6266","news_13"],"tags":["news_38","news_6176"],"featImg":"news_10345544","label":"news_6944"},"news_10604683":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10604683","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10604683","score":null,"sort":[1437180546000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"google-exec-addresses-diversity-unions-and-benefits-for-service-workers","title":"Google Exec Addresses Diversity, Unions and Benefits for Service Workers","publishDate":1437180546,"format":"standard","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\"Yeah, the numbers are bad,\" said Laszlo Bock. \"The company is roughly 2 percent African-American, and that's way lower than you see both in the labor force we draw from and the population generally.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was how a key Google executive began his response to a question about whether the company recruits at historically black colleges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock is head of what's called \"people operations\" at Google, or what the rest of us refer to as human resources. He appeared on \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201507171000\">KQED's \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em>\u003c/a> to discuss his book, \"Work Rules! Insights from Inside Google That Will Transform How You Live and Lead.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Google is known for its employee perks and Bock's book contains a lot about what the company has learned about retaining and managing employees, \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em> listeners wanted to talk about something else that Silicon Valley is known for: a lack of diversity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google made \u003ca href=\"http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/google-discloses-workforce-diversity-data-good/\" target=\"_blank\">headlines\u003c/a> in May 2014 when it published its \u003ca href=\"http://www.google.com/diversity/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">demographic information\u003c/a>. In short, the company is 70 percent male and 60 percent white, \u003ca href=\"http://www.google.com/diversity/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">according to the company's website\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock said part of the reason that Google decided to release the information was \"to put pressure on ourselves. Now we are publicly accountable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We grew our African-American and Hispanic populations by about 40 percent. But the base we're growing from is so much smaller, that's just not enough.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the things that Google is doing to address its low number of African-Americans is not merely recruit at historically black colleges, Bock said, but also to have employees work with computer science departments at the schools \u003ca href=\"http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4312d33e1cb8454a9885f230d35f0eb1/google-embeds-engineers-professors\" target=\"_blank\">to refine the curriculum, teach courses and mentor students\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We went from zero interns ever hired from Howard [University] for computer science to 11 the next year,\" said Bock. \"We've since expanded to five other schools ... and hired over 30 people from those colleges.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Benefits for Contract Workers\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech companies have also been \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/07/14/growing-labor-movement-shakes-up-silicon-valley\">criticized\u003c/a> for what many say is a chasm between how the companies' actual employees are treated -- high salaries, catered lunches and private shuttles -- and how the workers who provide services to those employees are treated. They're the people who cook those lunches and drive those shuttles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock said that Google requires its vendors on Bay Area campuses to pay $15 an hour and has asked them to \"provide benefits similar to what we're doing on the Google side.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Specifically, Google asked that health insurance shouldn't require a waiting period of a year, that employees not pay more than 20 percent of the cost, and that family members and dependents receive benefit coverage right away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This will kick in with the open enrollment that starts in the fall,\" said Bock. \"It's going to be active starting next year, but we agreed on this a long time ago.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Unions at Google?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In February, shuttle drivers for Yahoo, Apple, Genentech, eBay and Zynga voted to join the Teamsters union. The drivers at Google did not and received a pay raise the next month. Some have interpreted this as incentive for the drivers not to unionize. \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201507171000\" target=\"_blank\">During the \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em> show\u003c/a>, a caller named Doug, who identified himself as being with the Teamsters union, asked:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Right now we have some shuttle bus drivers who drive for Google who want to organize with our union and are afraid of retaliation. So what is your position on these employees organizing unions without, you know, interference from their employers who do business with you?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock's response:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Well, what I'll say is that you know we have folks who are unionized, we have folks who are non-union, across the company. Folks have a legal right to organize without fear of retaliation. And that's a critical and important thing and we respect that. I mean, there would not and will not be retaliation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the hour, Bock also spoke about Google's efforts to hire more veterans and to include more colleges, including community colleges, in its hiring efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can listen to the complete interview here:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[soundcloud url=\"https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/215177159\" params=\"color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" iframe=\"true\" /].\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"'Folks have a legal right to organize without fear of retaliation,' says tech company's PR head.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1437180546,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":714},"headData":{"title":"Google Exec Addresses Diversity, Unions and Benefits for Service Workers | KQED","description":"'Folks have a legal right to organize without fear of retaliation,' says tech company's PR head.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Google Exec Addresses Diversity, Unions and Benefits for Service Workers","datePublished":"2015-07-18T00:49:06.000Z","dateModified":"2015-07-18T00:49:06.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"10604683 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10604683","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/07/17/google-exec-addresses-diversity-unions-and-benefits-for-service-workers/","disqusTitle":"Google Exec Addresses Diversity, Unions and Benefits for Service Workers","path":"/news/10604683/google-exec-addresses-diversity-unions-and-benefits-for-service-workers","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\"Yeah, the numbers are bad,\" said Laszlo Bock. \"The company is roughly 2 percent African-American, and that's way lower than you see both in the labor force we draw from and the population generally.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was how a key Google executive began his response to a question about whether the company recruits at historically black colleges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock is head of what's called \"people operations\" at Google, or what the rest of us refer to as human resources. He appeared on \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201507171000\">KQED's \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em>\u003c/a> to discuss his book, \"Work Rules! Insights from Inside Google That Will Transform How You Live and Lead.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Google is known for its employee perks and Bock's book contains a lot about what the company has learned about retaining and managing employees, \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em> listeners wanted to talk about something else that Silicon Valley is known for: a lack of diversity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google made \u003ca href=\"http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/google-discloses-workforce-diversity-data-good/\" target=\"_blank\">headlines\u003c/a> in May 2014 when it published its \u003ca href=\"http://www.google.com/diversity/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">demographic information\u003c/a>. In short, the company is 70 percent male and 60 percent white, \u003ca href=\"http://www.google.com/diversity/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">according to the company's website\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bock said part of the reason that Google decided to release the information was \"to put pressure on ourselves. Now we are publicly accountable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We grew our African-American and Hispanic populations by about 40 percent. 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