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That the new name … does not infringe on SFO’s purported mark, and that neither SFO nor the City and County of San Francisco have the exclusive right to use or trademark the San Francisco Bay,” Richardson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983384/san-francisco-sues-oakland-over-plan-to-change-airport-name\">sued Oakland last month\u003c/a>, arguing that the name infringes on the trademark of San Francisco International Airport and would cause confusion among travelers. City Attorney David Chiu told KQED ahead of the final vote that his office would seek a preliminary injunction to stop the name’s implementation until the lawsuit is settled, should the vote pass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The name change is already in effect, and Richardson said the port is immediately moving forward with changing signage and communicating with airlines and travel agencies to update their records. The full implementation could take months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Importantly, unlike SFO, the port is not seeking money damages. At this point, we’re not seeking anything other than a declaration that we can continue to use the name that the board approved,” Richardson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both sides have expressed their disappointment with each other and argued that an alternative resolution could have been reached.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","tag":"oakland-airport"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“We want to see the entire Bay Area thrive as a tourist destination and expand our offerings to visitors, but this proposal is not a legal or practical way to go about it,” Chiu said in a public letter to the port days before commissioners’ \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982744/oakland-officials-to-proceed-with-controversial-move-to-rename-airport\">first vote on the change in early April\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Richardson said Port of Oakland executives “did reach out to SFO executive leadership early on. … Those conversations were proceeding for a little bit of time,” she said. “However, the threats of litigation from the city attorney really stifled those conversations.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco filed its lawsuit a week after the port’s initial vote, saying that their attempts to collaborate had gone ignored.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco city attorney’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment following Thursday’s vote.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985760/oakland-airport-new-name-lawsuit-against-san-francisco","authors":["11761"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_18","news_33915","news_2045","news_38","news_451"],"featImg":"news_11985763","label":"news"},"news_11985684":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985684","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985684","score":null,"sort":[1715365204000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"sf-wants-to-give-downtown-a-boost-with-more-pop-ups-in-empty-storefronts","title":"SF Wants to Give Downtown a Boost With More Pop-Ups in Empty Storefronts","publishDate":1715365204,"format":"standard","headTitle":"SF Wants to Give Downtown a Boost With More Pop-Ups in Empty Storefronts | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>San Francisco officials are expanding an economic revitalization project to bring business back to empty downtown storefronts, announcing plans for additional funding and more pop-ups set to open next month in SOMA, the East Cut and the Financial District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The eight pop-ups announced Thursday as part of the Vacant to Vibrant program include a deli, coffeeshop, social club, glass workshop and florist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The project, launched last fall, matches local entrepreneurs with property owners who have vacant ground-level commercial space. Landlords must agree to rent the space for three months free of charge, with the opportunity to extend, and utilities are covered by the program’s $1.2 million budget.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The initiative is part of San Francisco Mayor London Breed’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11978610/breed-unveils-san-franciscos-downtown-revival-plan-in-annual-city-address\">effort to jumpstart the city’s sputtering economic recovery\u003c/a> from the COVID-19 pandemic, an \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11955554/could-empty-offices-in-san-francisco-be-converted-to-homes\">exodus of office workers\u003c/a> and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11977217/macys-to-close-flagship-san-francisco-union-square-store\">decline of brick-and-mortar retail\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985696\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11985696 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Mayor London Breed announced Thursday, May 9, 2024, that she plans to include more money for the Vacant to Vibrant economic revitalization program in the upcoming city budget. \u003ccite>(Nik Altenberg/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We’re seeing thousands of new businesses pop up in communities, but we weren’t having that same success downtown — Vacant to Vibrant has changed the game,” Breed said at a press event on Thursday. “For those folks who have a new idea and want an opportunity to thrive in San Francisco and in downtown, we want to make it possible, so we will be investing more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Signaling a desire to expand the program, Breed said she plans to include it in the upcoming city budget but did not specify how much. She also called on more property owners with vacant downtown storefronts to partner in the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Breed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982009/sf-mayor-london-breed-facing-stiff-competition-from-the-left-and-right\">gears up for a mayoral election\u003c/a> that is in many ways a referendum on the city’s direction, her office has focused on improving a downtown tarnished by “doom loop” narratives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vacant to Vibrant is a partnership between the mayor’s office, the Office of Economic and Workforce Development and SF New Deal — a nonprofit that began during the early days of the pandemic as an effort to help keep local restaurants afloat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wells Fargo has also pitched into the program’s budget and on Thursday committed an additional $1 million to support vendors who want to become permanent after the pop-up period ends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Nafy Flatley, owner of the Senegalese food pop-up Teranga, who was part of the first Vacant to Vibrant cohort, the incoming assistance will be much appreciated. Despite the logistical and financial support from the program during her six months of operating as a pop-up, when it was time to negotiate her own lease, she found herself on her own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Google was my best friend,” Flatley said. “I had to be the one working on talking to them, learning about how to read contracts, learning about how to negotiate. I really became an expert in contracts and an expert in reading this fine print.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985698\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985698\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nafy Flatley at the press event for Vacant to Vibrant on Thursday, May 9, 2024. Her Senegalese restaurant Teranga went from pop-up to permanent. \u003ccite>(Nik Altenberg/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The space Flatley moved to at 4 Embarcadero Center is smaller than the one she was in as a pop-up, and she said she’ll have to downsize her staff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the upcoming cohort, SF New Deal plans to offer more support to businesses that want to become permanent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Previously, we weren’t sure after six months what people were going to be able to do,” said Jacob Bindman, co-founder and chief program officer of SF New Deal. The money from Wells Fargo will help the businesses “in terms of grant funding, in terms of technical assistance, to keep them here over the course of that first year or longer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another change from the first cohort is an increase in the grant amounts given to the pop-ups, expected to be $8,000 to $12,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the nine pop-ups that participated in the first cohort, seven have signed leases downtown, according to the mayor’s office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"San Francisco officials are expanding an economic revitalization project that's part of Mayor London Breed's plan for downtown.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715368951,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":721},"headData":{"title":"SF Wants to Give Downtown a Boost With More Pop-Ups in Empty Storefronts | KQED","description":"San Francisco officials are expanding an economic revitalization project that's part of Mayor London Breed's plan for downtown.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"SF Wants to Give Downtown a Boost With More Pop-Ups in Empty Storefronts","datePublished":"2024-05-10T18:20:04.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-10T19:22:31.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-11985684","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985684/sf-wants-to-give-downtown-a-boost-with-more-pop-ups-in-empty-storefronts","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>San Francisco officials are expanding an economic revitalization project to bring business back to empty downtown storefronts, announcing plans for additional funding and more pop-ups set to open next month in SOMA, the East Cut and the Financial District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The eight pop-ups announced Thursday as part of the Vacant to Vibrant program include a deli, coffeeshop, social club, glass workshop and florist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The project, launched last fall, matches local entrepreneurs with property owners who have vacant ground-level commercial space. Landlords must agree to rent the space for three months free of charge, with the opportunity to extend, and utilities are covered by the program’s $1.2 million budget.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The initiative is part of San Francisco Mayor London Breed’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11978610/breed-unveils-san-franciscos-downtown-revival-plan-in-annual-city-address\">effort to jumpstart the city’s sputtering economic recovery\u003c/a> from the COVID-19 pandemic, an \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11955554/could-empty-offices-in-san-francisco-be-converted-to-homes\">exodus of office workers\u003c/a> and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11977217/macys-to-close-flagship-san-francisco-union-square-store\">decline of brick-and-mortar retail\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985696\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11985696 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6257_qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Mayor London Breed announced Thursday, May 9, 2024, that she plans to include more money for the Vacant to Vibrant economic revitalization program in the upcoming city budget. \u003ccite>(Nik Altenberg/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We’re seeing thousands of new businesses pop up in communities, but we weren’t having that same success downtown — Vacant to Vibrant has changed the game,” Breed said at a press event on Thursday. “For those folks who have a new idea and want an opportunity to thrive in San Francisco and in downtown, we want to make it possible, so we will be investing more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Signaling a desire to expand the program, Breed said she plans to include it in the upcoming city budget but did not specify how much. She also called on more property owners with vacant downtown storefronts to partner in the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Breed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982009/sf-mayor-london-breed-facing-stiff-competition-from-the-left-and-right\">gears up for a mayoral election\u003c/a> that is in many ways a referendum on the city’s direction, her office has focused on improving a downtown tarnished by “doom loop” narratives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vacant to Vibrant is a partnership between the mayor’s office, the Office of Economic and Workforce Development and SF New Deal — a nonprofit that began during the early days of the pandemic as an effort to help keep local restaurants afloat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wells Fargo has also pitched into the program’s budget and on Thursday committed an additional $1 million to support vendors who want to become permanent after the pop-up period ends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Nafy Flatley, owner of the Senegalese food pop-up Teranga, who was part of the first Vacant to Vibrant cohort, the incoming assistance will be much appreciated. Despite the logistical and financial support from the program during her six months of operating as a pop-up, when it was time to negotiate her own lease, she found herself on her own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Google was my best friend,” Flatley said. “I had to be the one working on talking to them, learning about how to read contracts, learning about how to negotiate. I really became an expert in contracts and an expert in reading this fine print.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985698\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985698\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/IMG_6279_qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nafy Flatley at the press event for Vacant to Vibrant on Thursday, May 9, 2024. Her Senegalese restaurant Teranga went from pop-up to permanent. \u003ccite>(Nik Altenberg/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The space Flatley moved to at 4 Embarcadero Center is smaller than the one she was in as a pop-up, and she said she’ll have to downsize her staff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the upcoming cohort, SF New Deal plans to offer more support to businesses that want to become permanent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Previously, we weren’t sure after six months what people were going to be able to do,” said Jacob Bindman, co-founder and chief program officer of SF New Deal. The money from Wells Fargo will help the businesses “in terms of grant funding, in terms of technical assistance, to keep them here over the course of that first year or longer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another change from the first cohort is an increase in the grant amounts given to the pop-ups, expected to be $8,000 to $12,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the nine pop-ups that participated in the first cohort, seven have signed leases downtown, according to the mayor’s office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985684/sf-wants-to-give-downtown-a-boost-with-more-pop-ups-in-empty-storefronts","authors":["11896"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8"],"tags":["news_17611","news_32847","news_6931","news_38"],"featImg":"news_11985688","label":"news"},"news_11985525":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985525","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985525","score":null,"sort":[1715292640000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"failures-of-sf-office-on-sexual-assault-complaints-draw-scrutiny","title":"Failures of SF Office on Sexual Assault Complaints Draw Scrutiny","publishDate":1715292640,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Failures of SF Office on Sexual Assault Complaints Draw Scrutiny | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Six years after San Francisco created an office meant to help sexual assault survivors and hold city departments accountable for their handling of complaints, the Board of Supervisors is digging into why the initiative hasn’t appeared to bring about meaningful change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a City Hall hearing on Thursday morning, supervisors questioned those in charge of the Office of Sexual Harassment and Assault Response and Prevention, or SHARP, following high-profile allegations against a rising local political star and a \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/sf-sharp-sex-assault-response-19429042.php\">\u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em> review of public records\u003c/a> finding that SHARP fell far short of its mission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The office is mandated to help survivors navigate San Francisco’s bureaucratic systems and report city officers should they fail to help. SHARP was also tasked with suggesting policy reforms for government agencies to better help victims; it has proposed no such policies for the San Francisco Police Department, the district attorney’s office or San Francisco General Hospital, the three largest city agencies that sexual assault survivors often encounter, the \u003cem>Chronicle\u003c/em> reported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sheryl Evans Davis, the executive director of the Human Rights Commission, which oversees SHARP, said during the hearing that although officials have performed meaningful community outreach, SHARP didn’t meet its mission to reform city government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are apologetic and regretful, but we are also committed to doing better,” Davis said. “We’ve had some shortcomings here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the hearing, Supervisor Hillary Ronen, who led SHARP’s creation in 2018, said she will soon introduce legislation to house SHARP within a new city agency, the Office of Victim and Witness Rights. The legislation will also require SHARP to report regularly on its efforts and enhance the office’s confidentiality powers to better protect survivors who come forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“SHARP was supposed to look inward at our departments, and we just lost sight of it,” Ronen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ronen called for the hearing after \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/16/san-francisco-housing-jon-jacobo-accused-of-sex-crimes-abuse/\">an April report by the\u003cem> San Francisco Standard\u003c/em>\u003c/a> revealed that multiple women had reported alleged stalking, abuse and rape by Jon Jacobo, a rising star in local progressive politics — and that three of them filed separate police reports that appear to have languished.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985594\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11985594 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jon Jacobo speaks alongside members of the recently formed Mission Vendor Association at the 24th Street BART plaza during a press conference in San Francisco on Nov. 22, 2023, condemning an upcoming rule banning vending on Mission Street. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>More allegations gripped San Francisco’s political scene over the next month: Sexual misconduct accusations emerged against Kevin Ortiz, the co-chair of the San Francisco Latinx Democratic Club, an advocacy group, and a rape allegation from 2010, \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/2024/05/06/san-francisco-neighbors-powerful-political-group-crisis/\">resurfaced against Jay Cheng\u003c/a>, the head of Neighbors for a Better San Francisco, a moderate Democrat-aligned political group. The San Francisco Democratic Party created a committee to look into sexual misconduct in its ranks, \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/2024/05/02/san-francisco-democrats-metoo-sexual-assault-rape/\">which met for the first time last week\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While headlines have focused on the Democratic Party, the hearing’s scope was wider. Supervisors said they wanted to discuss how best to help victims and did not focus on the multiple accusations against San Francisco Democrats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco Police Department presented data showing sexual assault cases in San Francisco \u003ca href=\"https://sfgov.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=12912024&GUID=DFED6FEE-ABB8-477E-9C60-6FD2496E5AA0\">have risen since SHARP was created\u003c/a>. In 2020, 712 sexual assault cases were reported to SFPD, and by 2023, the number of cases rose to 1,062. Of those assaults, 223 were forcible rape.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"sexual-assault\"]“The numbers we just saw from the police department, they’re outrageous,” Ronen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ronen said SHARP’s failures stem from its failure to hire people with expertise in reforming government. Its staffers have strong community outreach experience, she said, but since there are only two of them, the office may need to hire more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the last five years, the office has received 72 complaints about city responses to victims through the SHARP website and 187 complaints through community engagement. The office is handling 33 ongoing investigations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During public comment in Thursday’s hearing, Luis Gutierrez-Mock, a local advocate, said more needs to be done about people who are widely known to have allegations of sexual harassment or rape.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For many of us here, we were friends and community members of Jon Jacobo, and what was done to hold him accountable?” Gutierrez-Mock said.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Six years after San Francisco created the Office of Sexual Harassment and Assault Response and Prevention, or SHARP, high-profile allegations underscore its shortcomings.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715296387,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":738},"headData":{"title":"Failures of SF Office on Sexual Assault Complaints Draw Scrutiny | KQED","description":"Six years after San Francisco created the Office of Sexual Harassment and Assault Response and Prevention, or SHARP, high-profile allegations underscore its shortcomings.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Failures of SF Office on Sexual Assault Complaints Draw Scrutiny","datePublished":"2024-05-09T22:10:40.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-09T23:13:07.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-11985525","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985525/failures-of-sf-office-on-sexual-assault-complaints-draw-scrutiny","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Six years after San Francisco created an office meant to help sexual assault survivors and hold city departments accountable for their handling of complaints, the Board of Supervisors is digging into why the initiative hasn’t appeared to bring about meaningful change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a City Hall hearing on Thursday morning, supervisors questioned those in charge of the Office of Sexual Harassment and Assault Response and Prevention, or SHARP, following high-profile allegations against a rising local political star and a \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/sf-sharp-sex-assault-response-19429042.php\">\u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em> review of public records\u003c/a> finding that SHARP fell far short of its mission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The office is mandated to help survivors navigate San Francisco’s bureaucratic systems and report city officers should they fail to help. SHARP was also tasked with suggesting policy reforms for government agencies to better help victims; it has proposed no such policies for the San Francisco Police Department, the district attorney’s office or San Francisco General Hospital, the three largest city agencies that sexual assault survivors often encounter, the \u003cem>Chronicle\u003c/em> reported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sheryl Evans Davis, the executive director of the Human Rights Commission, which oversees SHARP, said during the hearing that although officials have performed meaningful community outreach, SHARP didn’t meet its mission to reform city government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are apologetic and regretful, but we are also committed to doing better,” Davis said. “We’ve had some shortcomings here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the hearing, Supervisor Hillary Ronen, who led SHARP’s creation in 2018, said she will soon introduce legislation to house SHARP within a new city agency, the Office of Victim and Witness Rights. The legislation will also require SHARP to report regularly on its efforts and enhance the office’s confidentiality powers to better protect survivors who come forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“SHARP was supposed to look inward at our departments, and we just lost sight of it,” Ronen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ronen called for the hearing after \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/16/san-francisco-housing-jon-jacobo-accused-of-sex-crimes-abuse/\">an April report by the\u003cem> San Francisco Standard\u003c/em>\u003c/a> revealed that multiple women had reported alleged stalking, abuse and rape by Jon Jacobo, a rising star in local progressive politics — and that three of them filed separate police reports that appear to have languished.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985594\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11985594 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/231122-MissionStVendors-04-BL_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jon Jacobo speaks alongside members of the recently formed Mission Vendor Association at the 24th Street BART plaza during a press conference in San Francisco on Nov. 22, 2023, condemning an upcoming rule banning vending on Mission Street. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>More allegations gripped San Francisco’s political scene over the next month: Sexual misconduct accusations emerged against Kevin Ortiz, the co-chair of the San Francisco Latinx Democratic Club, an advocacy group, and a rape allegation from 2010, \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/2024/05/06/san-francisco-neighbors-powerful-political-group-crisis/\">resurfaced against Jay Cheng\u003c/a>, the head of Neighbors for a Better San Francisco, a moderate Democrat-aligned political group. The San Francisco Democratic Party created a committee to look into sexual misconduct in its ranks, \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/2024/05/02/san-francisco-democrats-metoo-sexual-assault-rape/\">which met for the first time last week\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While headlines have focused on the Democratic Party, the hearing’s scope was wider. Supervisors said they wanted to discuss how best to help victims and did not focus on the multiple accusations against San Francisco Democrats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco Police Department presented data showing sexual assault cases in San Francisco \u003ca href=\"https://sfgov.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=12912024&GUID=DFED6FEE-ABB8-477E-9C60-6FD2496E5AA0\">have risen since SHARP was created\u003c/a>. In 2020, 712 sexual assault cases were reported to SFPD, and by 2023, the number of cases rose to 1,062. Of those assaults, 223 were forcible rape.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"sexual-assault"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“The numbers we just saw from the police department, they’re outrageous,” Ronen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ronen said SHARP’s failures stem from its failure to hire people with expertise in reforming government. Its staffers have strong community outreach experience, she said, but since there are only two of them, the office may need to hire more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the last five years, the office has received 72 complaints about city responses to victims through the SHARP website and 187 complaints through community engagement. The office is handling 33 ongoing investigations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During public comment in Thursday’s hearing, Luis Gutierrez-Mock, a local advocate, said more needs to be done about people who are widely known to have allegations of sexual harassment or rape.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For many of us here, we were friends and community members of Jon Jacobo, and what was done to hold him accountable?” Gutierrez-Mock said.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985525/failures-of-sf-office-on-sexual-assault-complaints-draw-scrutiny","authors":["11690"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_38","news_545","news_1527"],"featImg":"news_11985597","label":"news"},"news_11985465":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985465","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985465","score":null,"sort":[1715259657000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"youth-and-nonprofits-rally-against-cuts-to-sf-family-support-programs","title":"Youth and Nonprofits Rally Against Cuts to SF Family Support Programs","publishDate":1715259657,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Youth and Nonprofits Rally Against Cuts to SF Family Support Programs | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Family housing subsidies. School public safety programs. Workforce development for youth. Childcare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With such city-funded youth and family services in danger of being cut back or eliminated entirely in San Francisco’s next budget, nearly 100 people rallied on City Hall’s steps Wednesday to call attention to the needs of some of the city’s most vulnerable. The rally attendees represented more than 40 nonprofit organizations, many of which administer the family support programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Funding cuts to the SF LGBT Center would make it harder for homeless queer and transgender youth to connect with services like housing, said Ruben Leon, 21, who is originally from Antioch and uses he/they pronouns. Leon told KQED they came to San Francisco in search of acceptance. They lived on the streets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the SF LGBT Center helped Leon find housing and community, they became a youth leader there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I went there and the first thing that I asked for was food. Literally food. I was starving and I hadn’t eaten for two days,” Leon said. “(I) just went inside and that changed my life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Mayor London Breed isn’t required to reveal her next fiscal year budget proposals until June, it’s no secret that the city’s economic condition is dire. In a December memo, Breed \u003ca href=\"http://openbook.sfgov.org/webreports/details3.aspx?id=3333\">outlined a budget deficit of $1.3 billion over the next five years\u003c/a> and asked departments to freeze the creation of new positions and to make reductions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The People’s Budget Coalition, which organized Wednesday’s rally, represents organizations that reach many vulnerable San Francisco youth communities, including Larkin Street Youth Services, the Chinese Progressive Association, Filipino Community Center, HIV/AIDS Provider Network, Latino Parity and Equity Coalition and Early Educators of SF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the current budget environment, the San Francisco Department of Children, Youth and Their Families recently cut its grant funding by 35%, which the coalition said impacted many of the nonprofits that reach out to vulnerable youth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The department’s total budget was reduced from $210 million in the 2023-2024 fiscal year to $182 million in the 2024-2025 fiscal year. Its grant funding was reduced by $26 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the deficit, Breed has committed $92 million to fund over 142 agencies and 231 programs citywide for youth workforce development, children enrichment programming, academic support and youth violence prevention, according to Parisa Safarzadeh, a spokesperson for the mayor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This year, again, the city is facing an extremely challenging budget, but Mayor Breed is maximizing every dollar to make a positive impact on San Franciscan families across the city even when tough decisions have to be made,” Safarzadeh said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The protest served as an opener to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors Budget and Appropriations Committee hearing on cuts to youth programming. Supervisor Connie Chan, the board’s budget chair, told the advocates that reductions to family services makes the city less safe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I really hope the mayor will bridge the budget deficit without sacrificing all the people who came out for these programs today,” Chan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several speakers during the three hours of public comment called out Breed and the supervisors for supporting the San Francisco Police Department while reducing the funding for crime prevention programs. Last year, the board approved Breed’s request for a \u003ca href=\"https://missionlocal.org/2023/03/sf-mayor-27m-police-overtime-proposal/\">$25 million budget supplemental for police overtime\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re the ones on the front line working with young people directly,” said Victorino Camilo Cartagena of CARECEN SF, a nonprofit serving Latinos. “Young people come to us before they go to police.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maria Su, executive director of the San Francisco Department of Children, Youth and Their Families, said some of the nonprofits funded by the department faced grant reductions. Others were denied requests for additional funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Downtown’s post-COVID office exodus led to a drop in business taxes, a major factor in the city’s emptying coffers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seeking to revitalize the city’s economic heart, yesterday Breed announced a ballot initiative formed with Board of Supervisors President Aaron Peskin, who is running against her in this year’s mayoral election, to reform San Francisco’s tax structure. If approved by voters this November, more than 2,500 small businesses would be exempt from some city taxes. Taxes for hotels, arts and entertainment businesses would also be lowered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need a business tax structure that reflects our new reality, and that supports and encourages businesses large and small to thrive,” Breed said in a statement. “This proposal is the result of a collaborative approach that will deliver a tax system that will help San Francisco grow and fund critical City services throughout our neighborhoods.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The protest served as an opener to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors committee hearing on decreased funding for youth programming.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715227918,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":810},"headData":{"title":"Youth and Nonprofits Rally Against Cuts to SF Family Support Programs | KQED","description":"The protest served as an opener to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors committee hearing on decreased funding for youth programming.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Youth and Nonprofits Rally Against Cuts to SF Family Support Programs","datePublished":"2024-05-09T13:00:57.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-09T04:11:58.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985465/youth-and-nonprofits-rally-against-cuts-to-sf-family-support-programs","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Family housing subsidies. School public safety programs. Workforce development for youth. Childcare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With such city-funded youth and family services in danger of being cut back or eliminated entirely in San Francisco’s next budget, nearly 100 people rallied on City Hall’s steps Wednesday to call attention to the needs of some of the city’s most vulnerable. The rally attendees represented more than 40 nonprofit organizations, many of which administer the family support programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Funding cuts to the SF LGBT Center would make it harder for homeless queer and transgender youth to connect with services like housing, said Ruben Leon, 21, who is originally from Antioch and uses he/they pronouns. Leon told KQED they came to San Francisco in search of acceptance. They lived on the streets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the SF LGBT Center helped Leon find housing and community, they became a youth leader there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I went there and the first thing that I asked for was food. Literally food. I was starving and I hadn’t eaten for two days,” Leon said. “(I) just went inside and that changed my life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Mayor London Breed isn’t required to reveal her next fiscal year budget proposals until June, it’s no secret that the city’s economic condition is dire. In a December memo, Breed \u003ca href=\"http://openbook.sfgov.org/webreports/details3.aspx?id=3333\">outlined a budget deficit of $1.3 billion over the next five years\u003c/a> and asked departments to freeze the creation of new positions and to make reductions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The People’s Budget Coalition, which organized Wednesday’s rally, represents organizations that reach many vulnerable San Francisco youth communities, including Larkin Street Youth Services, the Chinese Progressive Association, Filipino Community Center, HIV/AIDS Provider Network, Latino Parity and Equity Coalition and Early Educators of SF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the current budget environment, the San Francisco Department of Children, Youth and Their Families recently cut its grant funding by 35%, which the coalition said impacted many of the nonprofits that reach out to vulnerable youth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The department’s total budget was reduced from $210 million in the 2023-2024 fiscal year to $182 million in the 2024-2025 fiscal year. Its grant funding was reduced by $26 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the deficit, Breed has committed $92 million to fund over 142 agencies and 231 programs citywide for youth workforce development, children enrichment programming, academic support and youth violence prevention, according to Parisa Safarzadeh, a spokesperson for the mayor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This year, again, the city is facing an extremely challenging budget, but Mayor Breed is maximizing every dollar to make a positive impact on San Franciscan families across the city even when tough decisions have to be made,” Safarzadeh said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The protest served as an opener to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors Budget and Appropriations Committee hearing on cuts to youth programming. Supervisor Connie Chan, the board’s budget chair, told the advocates that reductions to family services makes the city less safe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I really hope the mayor will bridge the budget deficit without sacrificing all the people who came out for these programs today,” Chan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several speakers during the three hours of public comment called out Breed and the supervisors for supporting the San Francisco Police Department while reducing the funding for crime prevention programs. Last year, the board approved Breed’s request for a \u003ca href=\"https://missionlocal.org/2023/03/sf-mayor-27m-police-overtime-proposal/\">$25 million budget supplemental for police overtime\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re the ones on the front line working with young people directly,” said Victorino Camilo Cartagena of CARECEN SF, a nonprofit serving Latinos. “Young people come to us before they go to police.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maria Su, executive director of the San Francisco Department of Children, Youth and Their Families, said some of the nonprofits funded by the department faced grant reductions. Others were denied requests for additional funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Downtown’s post-COVID office exodus led to a drop in business taxes, a major factor in the city’s emptying coffers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seeking to revitalize the city’s economic heart, yesterday Breed announced a ballot initiative formed with Board of Supervisors President Aaron Peskin, who is running against her in this year’s mayoral election, to reform San Francisco’s tax structure. If approved by voters this November, more than 2,500 small businesses would be exempt from some city taxes. Taxes for hotels, arts and entertainment businesses would also be lowered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need a business tax structure that reflects our new reality, and that supports and encourages businesses large and small to thrive,” Breed said in a statement. “This proposal is the result of a collaborative approach that will deliver a tax system that will help San Francisco grow and fund critical City services throughout our neighborhoods.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985465/youth-and-nonprofits-rally-against-cuts-to-sf-family-support-programs","authors":["11690"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_23690","news_38"],"featImg":"news_11985434","label":"news"},"news_11985399":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985399","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985399","score":null,"sort":[1715200304000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"sfs-biggest-sea-lion-gathering-in-years-is-broken-up-by-dock-work","title":"SF's Biggest Sea Lion Gathering in Years is Broken Up by Dock Work","publishDate":1715200304,"format":"standard","headTitle":"SF’s Biggest Sea Lion Gathering in Years is Broken Up by Dock Work | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Last week, more than a thousand sea lions sunned on the docks at San Francisco’s Fisherman’s Wharf, forming the largest herd in over a decade. On Tuesday, though, the area was noticeably devoid of their barks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Sue Muzzin, vice president of public relations for Pier 39, the sea lions were temporarily spurred away by marina staff tightening bolts on multiple floating docks as part of routine maintenance work — though it’s possible all that extra weight over the last week put more wear and tear on the docks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The sea lions jump into the water, they don’t freak out, they’re used to this,” Muzzin told KQED. “It’s a regular routine maintenance check that we always do. And — there’s a little bit more stress on the floats these days.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By Wednesday morning, \u003ca href=\"https://www.pier39.com/sealions/\">Pier 39’s live webcam\u003c/a> showed the sea lions back to their normal behavior, though in slightly lower numbers than last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pier typically hosts between 300 and 400 sea lions in the winter and up to 700 in the summer, harbormaster Sheila Candor \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/sea-lions-san-francisco-pier-a55d8e3627e6c23eb550e60937a15510\">told the Associated Press\u003c/a>. Last week’s surge to over 1,000 is the highest recorded number at the site in the last 15 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why did so many pinnipeds decide to take a pit stop at Pier 39 this year? A large school of anchovies swimming by the Farallon Island, it seems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco Bay is often a rest stop for male sea lions migrating south for summer’s mating season in the Channel Islands, according to Adam Ratner, the director of conservation engagement at the Marine Mammal Center in Sausalito.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Pier 39 provides a good place to rest, relax and take in the sun, and it’s just a quick swim from where there’s lots of yummy food,” Ratner said. “Right now, we’re seeing the animals kind of fattening up, getting ready for that breeding season.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='More Science Coverage' tag='science']This year, they’ve found more food than normal close to the pier. Why there are so many anchovies present is a “great mystery,” the Marine Mammal Center’s team is still trying to figure out, according to Ratner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It could be that there are more fish, and that’s just great for the health of the ecosystem. Or, it could be that it’s not that there’s more fish, but the fish are in a different location than usual, closer to shore,” Ratner said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The latter could be a bad sign — it might mean that more of the anchovy population is congregating in one place, increasing competition for food down in the Channel Islands, where the sea lions are heading.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If there’s no food down there, we’re going to see a lot of animals that are actually struggling to find food and washing up on the shores sick and in need of help. But it’s hard to make that judgment call right now,” Ratner said.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"More than 1,000 sea lions had gathered at Pier 39, but on Tuesday, marina crews needed to tighten bolts on the floating docks. By Wednesday, many of the sea lions had returned.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715203974,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":14,"wordCount":542},"headData":{"title":"SF's Biggest Sea Lion Gathering in Years is Broken Up by Dock Work | KQED","description":"More than 1,000 sea lions had gathered at Pier 39, but on Tuesday, marina crews needed to tighten bolts on the floating docks. By Wednesday, many of the sea lions had returned.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"SF's Biggest Sea Lion Gathering in Years is Broken Up by Dock Work","datePublished":"2024-05-08T20:31:44.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-08T21:32:54.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/katie_debe?lang=en\">Katie DeBenedetti\u003c/a>","nprStoryId":"kqed-11985399","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985399/sfs-biggest-sea-lion-gathering-in-years-is-broken-up-by-dock-work","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Last week, more than a thousand sea lions sunned on the docks at San Francisco’s Fisherman’s Wharf, forming the largest herd in over a decade. On Tuesday, though, the area was noticeably devoid of their barks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Sue Muzzin, vice president of public relations for Pier 39, the sea lions were temporarily spurred away by marina staff tightening bolts on multiple floating docks as part of routine maintenance work — though it’s possible all that extra weight over the last week put more wear and tear on the docks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The sea lions jump into the water, they don’t freak out, they’re used to this,” Muzzin told KQED. “It’s a regular routine maintenance check that we always do. And — there’s a little bit more stress on the floats these days.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By Wednesday morning, \u003ca href=\"https://www.pier39.com/sealions/\">Pier 39’s live webcam\u003c/a> showed the sea lions back to their normal behavior, though in slightly lower numbers than last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pier typically hosts between 300 and 400 sea lions in the winter and up to 700 in the summer, harbormaster Sheila Candor \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/sea-lions-san-francisco-pier-a55d8e3627e6c23eb550e60937a15510\">told the Associated Press\u003c/a>. Last week’s surge to over 1,000 is the highest recorded number at the site in the last 15 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why did so many pinnipeds decide to take a pit stop at Pier 39 this year? A large school of anchovies swimming by the Farallon Island, it seems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco Bay is often a rest stop for male sea lions migrating south for summer’s mating season in the Channel Islands, according to Adam Ratner, the director of conservation engagement at the Marine Mammal Center in Sausalito.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Pier 39 provides a good place to rest, relax and take in the sun, and it’s just a quick swim from where there’s lots of yummy food,” Ratner said. “Right now, we’re seeing the animals kind of fattening up, getting ready for that breeding season.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"More Science Coverage ","tag":"science"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>This year, they’ve found more food than normal close to the pier. Why there are so many anchovies present is a “great mystery,” the Marine Mammal Center’s team is still trying to figure out, according to Ratner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It could be that there are more fish, and that’s just great for the health of the ecosystem. Or, it could be that it’s not that there’s more fish, but the fish are in a different location than usual, closer to shore,” Ratner said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The latter could be a bad sign — it might mean that more of the anchovy population is congregating in one place, increasing competition for food down in the Channel Islands, where the sea lions are heading.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If there’s no food down there, we’re going to see a lot of animals that are actually struggling to find food and washing up on the shores sick and in need of help. But it’s hard to make that judgment call right now,” Ratner said.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985399/sfs-biggest-sea-lion-gathering-in-years-is-broken-up-by-dock-work","authors":["byline_news_11985399"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8"],"tags":["news_18132","news_18538","news_17996","news_28017","news_38"],"featImg":"news_11985401","label":"news"},"news_11985347":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985347","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985347","score":null,"sort":[1715196649000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"san-francisco-police-urged-to-take-alarming-racist-threats-seriously","title":"Neighbors to Rally in Support of Black SF Man Who Received Racist Threats","publishDate":1715196649,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Neighbors to Rally in Support of Black SF Man Who Received Racist Threats | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Terry Williams is a born-and-raised San Franciscan — he’s called Alamo Square home his whole life. But on Sunday, he found a package containing racist slurs, death threats and a doll painted in blackface outside his house, telling him to “get out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They said they’re going to exterminate me, eradicate me, that I don’t belong in this neighborhood,” said Williams, 49. The essence of the message, he said, was, “It’s not a Black neighborhood no more — get out of here, you don’t belong here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The doll had the words “Get out of the Alamo Square district” on the front, as well as a small plastic grenade and Ku Klux Klan imagery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985353\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 710px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985353\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/terry-williams-suspect.png\" alt=\"A person wearing all black walks on a sidewalk\" width=\"710\" height=\"554\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/terry-williams-suspect.png 710w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/terry-williams-suspect-160x125.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A neighbor’s security camera footage shows an individual suspected of leaving the racist package at Terry Williams’ home on April 26. A similarly dressed individual was seen on security camera footage after the May 5 incident, but police have not yet retrieved the footage, Katrina Queirolo told KQED.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It was the second threatening package left at Williams’ home in the last two weeks; early on April 26, he found the first, which also contained a doll painted in blackface — a racist caricature of Black people stemming from 19th-century minstrel shows — with a noose around its neck, racist slurs written on the doll and printouts of racist imagery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, Williams said life has been more stressful for him and his parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I see it in my mom; she’s smoking cigarettes,” Williams said. “And it’s just little things like she’ll tell me, ‘Where are you going? You call me when you get where you’re going.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On each occasion, Williams called the police, who came and retrieved the packages. Officers are investigating both incidents as potential hate crimes but are “unable to confirm that these incidents are connected,” a San Francisco Police Department spokesperson wrote in an email.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters plan to rally in Alamo Square Park at 10:30 a.m. Saturday to “raise awareness” of the racist threats against Williams and pressure police to prioritize the investigations, Williams’ neighbor Katrina Queirolo told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I hope they do their job, but in my opinion — what I’ve been through with SFPD and my history with trying to report stuff and get stuff handled for Black people — they don’t do it,” Williams said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Williams found the first doll, Queirolo started an online fundraiser to “install a great security system (with cameras)” and “help take some financial pressure off the family during a very difficult and scary time,” according to the GoFundMe page. The fundraiser had more than $10,000 by Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When it happened, I think myself and quite a few other neighbors were, obviously, absolutely horrified,” Queirolo said in an interview. “It’s such a disgusting thing that someone would have this much hatred and also just extremely scary that they could be in our neighborhood.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams runs a dog walking business and said he has had racist and unfriendly encounters with dog owners and residents over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been called n— a few times, countless times. I had a lady call the police on me up here before, tried to say my dogs attacked her and her 18-pound yorkie. She called the police on me, tried to get me arrested three times for assault and battery,” Williams said. The\u003ca href=\"https://sfbayview.com/2021/06/dog-walking-while-black-in-sf-parks-why-we-need-the-caren-act/\"> \u003cem>San Francisco Bay View\u003c/em>, a local Black newspaper, reported\u003c/a> the alleged 2021 incident.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams said he wanted the woman to be charged under \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13883048/the-caren-act-is-real-and-its-coming-for-racist-911-callers\">the CAREN Act\u003c/a>, a local ordinance against racially biased 911 calls and was concerned to find months later that no report had been filed. San Francisco police did not immediately respond to questions about the incident.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Rev. Amos Brown, president of the San Francisco branch of the NAACP and pastor of the Third Baptist Church near Alamo Square, said it’s important to keep in mind the neighborhood’s history when discussing racist acts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Take note that this area has been gentrified. Here in Western Addition, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11957757/why-san-franciscos-fillmore-district-is-no-longer-the-harlem-of-the-west\">the Old Fillmore, the Harlem of the West\u003c/a>,” Brown said. “Black folks were pushed out under that so-called redevelopment program that was started in 1948.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown added: “That was not about redevelopment, urban renewal — it was about Black removal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Sunday, Williams showed up at Third Baptist Church “to find refuge in the midst of his trauma,” Brown said. The church prayed for him, and Williams spoke passionately about what he had experienced, Brown said. Williams said he hadn’t planned to speak when he went to the church but felt moved to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There have always been different acts of injustice and discrimination against Blacks in this city,” Brown said. He mentioned \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/30/racist-slurs-show-blind-eye-san-francisco-schools/\">a recent incident at Lakeshore Elementary School\u003c/a> in which a white parent threatened a 10-year-old Black child and said he’s received many calls from parents of Black children about racist incidents at San Francisco schools in recent weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“San Francisco is not as progressive and liberal as it claims to be.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Police are investigating packages containing racist slurs, death threats and dolls painted in blackface as potential hate crimes against a dog walker in Alamo Square.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715197652,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":916},"headData":{"title":"Neighbors to Rally in Support of Black SF Man Who Received Racist Threats | KQED","description":"Police are investigating packages containing racist slurs, death threats and dolls painted in blackface as potential hate crimes against a dog walker in Alamo Square.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Neighbors to Rally in Support of Black SF Man Who Received Racist Threats","datePublished":"2024-05-08T19:30:49.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-08T19:47:32.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-11985347","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985347/san-francisco-police-urged-to-take-alarming-racist-threats-seriously","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Terry Williams is a born-and-raised San Franciscan — he’s called Alamo Square home his whole life. But on Sunday, he found a package containing racist slurs, death threats and a doll painted in blackface outside his house, telling him to “get out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They said they’re going to exterminate me, eradicate me, that I don’t belong in this neighborhood,” said Williams, 49. The essence of the message, he said, was, “It’s not a Black neighborhood no more — get out of here, you don’t belong here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The doll had the words “Get out of the Alamo Square district” on the front, as well as a small plastic grenade and Ku Klux Klan imagery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985353\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 710px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985353\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/terry-williams-suspect.png\" alt=\"A person wearing all black walks on a sidewalk\" width=\"710\" height=\"554\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/terry-williams-suspect.png 710w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/terry-williams-suspect-160x125.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A neighbor’s security camera footage shows an individual suspected of leaving the racist package at Terry Williams’ home on April 26. A similarly dressed individual was seen on security camera footage after the May 5 incident, but police have not yet retrieved the footage, Katrina Queirolo told KQED.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It was the second threatening package left at Williams’ home in the last two weeks; early on April 26, he found the first, which also contained a doll painted in blackface — a racist caricature of Black people stemming from 19th-century minstrel shows — with a noose around its neck, racist slurs written on the doll and printouts of racist imagery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, Williams said life has been more stressful for him and his parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I see it in my mom; she’s smoking cigarettes,” Williams said. “And it’s just little things like she’ll tell me, ‘Where are you going? You call me when you get where you’re going.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On each occasion, Williams called the police, who came and retrieved the packages. Officers are investigating both incidents as potential hate crimes but are “unable to confirm that these incidents are connected,” a San Francisco Police Department spokesperson wrote in an email.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters plan to rally in Alamo Square Park at 10:30 a.m. Saturday to “raise awareness” of the racist threats against Williams and pressure police to prioritize the investigations, Williams’ neighbor Katrina Queirolo told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I hope they do their job, but in my opinion — what I’ve been through with SFPD and my history with trying to report stuff and get stuff handled for Black people — they don’t do it,” Williams said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Williams found the first doll, Queirolo started an online fundraiser to “install a great security system (with cameras)” and “help take some financial pressure off the family during a very difficult and scary time,” according to the GoFundMe page. The fundraiser had more than $10,000 by Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When it happened, I think myself and quite a few other neighbors were, obviously, absolutely horrified,” Queirolo said in an interview. “It’s such a disgusting thing that someone would have this much hatred and also just extremely scary that they could be in our neighborhood.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams runs a dog walking business and said he has had racist and unfriendly encounters with dog owners and residents over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been called n— a few times, countless times. I had a lady call the police on me up here before, tried to say my dogs attacked her and her 18-pound yorkie. She called the police on me, tried to get me arrested three times for assault and battery,” Williams said. The\u003ca href=\"https://sfbayview.com/2021/06/dog-walking-while-black-in-sf-parks-why-we-need-the-caren-act/\"> \u003cem>San Francisco Bay View\u003c/em>, a local Black newspaper, reported\u003c/a> the alleged 2021 incident.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams said he wanted the woman to be charged under \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13883048/the-caren-act-is-real-and-its-coming-for-racist-911-callers\">the CAREN Act\u003c/a>, a local ordinance against racially biased 911 calls and was concerned to find months later that no report had been filed. San Francisco police did not immediately respond to questions about the incident.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Rev. Amos Brown, president of the San Francisco branch of the NAACP and pastor of the Third Baptist Church near Alamo Square, said it’s important to keep in mind the neighborhood’s history when discussing racist acts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Take note that this area has been gentrified. Here in Western Addition, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11957757/why-san-franciscos-fillmore-district-is-no-longer-the-harlem-of-the-west\">the Old Fillmore, the Harlem of the West\u003c/a>,” Brown said. “Black folks were pushed out under that so-called redevelopment program that was started in 1948.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown added: “That was not about redevelopment, urban renewal — it was about Black removal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Sunday, Williams showed up at Third Baptist Church “to find refuge in the midst of his trauma,” Brown said. The church prayed for him, and Williams spoke passionately about what he had experienced, Brown said. Williams said he hadn’t planned to speak when he went to the church but felt moved to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There have always been different acts of injustice and discrimination against Blacks in this city,” Brown said. He mentioned \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/30/racist-slurs-show-blind-eye-san-francisco-schools/\">a recent incident at Lakeshore Elementary School\u003c/a> in which a white parent threatened a 10-year-old Black child and said he’s received many calls from parents of Black children about racist incidents at San Francisco schools in recent weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“San Francisco is not as progressive and liberal as it claims to be.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985347/san-francisco-police-urged-to-take-alarming-racist-threats-seriously","authors":["11896"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_17725","news_5660","news_19216","news_38"],"featImg":"news_11985352","label":"news"},"news_11985194":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985194","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985194","score":null,"sort":[1715110668000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"sf-homeless-services-provider-accused-of-nepotism-100k-fraud","title":"SF Homeless Services Provider Accused of Nepotism, $100k Fraud","publishDate":1715110668,"format":"standard","headTitle":"SF Homeless Services Provider Accused of Nepotism, $100k Fraud | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>A San Francisco homeless services provider accused of falsifying $105,000 in invoices is cut off from future city funding, the city attorney’s office said in its latest move against alleged nonprofit fraud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence Foundation of San Francisco never carried out shelter maintenance work that it billed for, an investigation by City Attorney David Chiu’s office found, adding that the misused taxpayer funds remain unaccounted for. The investigation also found that the foundation violated its contracts with the city despite warnings over nepotism and other offenses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence denies the allegations, calling them “unfounded and baseless,” according to Vernon Goins, an Oakland-based attorney representing the foundation. Goins said the nonprofit is cooperating fully with the investigation “and will take remedial action where appropriate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Providence Foundation of San Francisco is confident that it will successfully prove that it never engaged in any willful misconduct as to any city grant or contract,” Goins wrote in an email to KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11928222\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11928222\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A man dressed in a business suit stands in front of a microphone with a large sign behind him.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco City Attorney David Chiu at City Hall on October 9, 2022. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Chiu announced Monday that he \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfcityattorney.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/2024.05.06-Counts-and-Allegations-Seeking-Debarment-and-Order-of-Suspension.pdf\">launched debarment proceedings\u003c/a> against Providence while immediately suspending it from bidding on or receiving new contracts or grants from the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a difference between having challenges with financial compliance and intentionally defrauding the city and its taxpayers,” Chiu said in a statement. “My office’s work to root out bad actors who take advantage of our public resources continues. We will find out about your misdeeds, cut off your funding, and hold you accountable.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The action follows rising scrutiny of the city’s nonprofits in recent years and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11981767/audit-finds-sf-homeless-housing-provider-misspent-taxpayer-money\">comes on the heels of a city audit released last month\u003c/a> that found HomeRise, a leading developer of housing for people exiting homelessness in San Francisco, has been “careless and irresponsible” with taxpayer money, spending $12,500 on a social event and handing out $200,000 in bonuses, among other improprieties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence’s contracts with the city, through the Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing, include one to run the Oasis Hotel, a shelter for families experiencing homelessness; another to run a navigation center; and others to operate supportive services and housing voucher programs, according to Chiu’s office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The alleged fraud involves falsified invoices related to maintenance at the Oasis Hotel. The city attorney claims the hotel was never painted nor had locks removed as reported on invoices, which also allegedly list a false contractor’s license number.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence Foundation Executive Director Patricia Doyle signed off on these bills, according to Chiu’s office, and should have known they were fake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The lack of new exterior paint is obvious to any person who views the Oasis, let alone the executive director and director of operations of the nonprofit in charge of operating the hotel,” according to a press release from the office. “In fact, a facilities report that the city commissioned after the Oasis had purportedly been painted lists ‘exterior paint’ as one of the shelter’s most pressing needs due to rust and fungus on the exterior of the building.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"homelessness\"]Chiu is also accusing the nonprofit of hiring “members of at least seven different families,” including children of the executive director and vice president of the board, in violation of the anti-nepotism provision in the grant agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing called Providence out on its hiring practices and other contract violations starting in March 2023.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“HSH has received complaints from Providence staff about personnel mismanagement, personnel oversight and inappropriate hiring practices,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfcityattorney.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/HSH-Corrective-Action-Letters.pdf\">one letter to the nonprofit reads\u003c/a>. The letter also lists complaints of wage theft, inadequate staffing, nepotism and accusations that Providence Foundation Director of Operations Kenisha Roach video-recorded guests and staff at the Oasis without permission during private conversations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence could be barred from getting city contracts or grants for up to five years through the debarment process, which is an administrative rather than legal procedure and is expected to take several months. At the city attorney’s request, the controller will appoint an independent hearing officer to hear arguments from both sides and decide. Debarment requires a finding of “willful misconduct.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The suspension will stay in place until the debarment proceeding is resolved. It doesn’t put an end to Providence’s current city contracts but could be grounds for terminating them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Providence Foundation of San Francisco is blocked from city funding after an investigation found it falsified over $100,000 in invoices. The foundation has called the allegations \"baseless.\"","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715113012,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":768},"headData":{"title":"SF Homeless Services Provider Accused of Nepotism, $100k Fraud | KQED","description":"Providence Foundation of San Francisco is blocked from city funding after an investigation found it falsified over $100,000 in invoices. The foundation has called the allegations "baseless."","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"SF Homeless Services Provider Accused of Nepotism, $100k Fraud","datePublished":"2024-05-07T19:37:48.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-07T20:16:52.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-11985194","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985194/sf-homeless-services-provider-accused-of-nepotism-100k-fraud","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A San Francisco homeless services provider accused of falsifying $105,000 in invoices is cut off from future city funding, the city attorney’s office said in its latest move against alleged nonprofit fraud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence Foundation of San Francisco never carried out shelter maintenance work that it billed for, an investigation by City Attorney David Chiu’s office found, adding that the misused taxpayer funds remain unaccounted for. The investigation also found that the foundation violated its contracts with the city despite warnings over nepotism and other offenses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence denies the allegations, calling them “unfounded and baseless,” according to Vernon Goins, an Oakland-based attorney representing the foundation. Goins said the nonprofit is cooperating fully with the investigation “and will take remedial action where appropriate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Providence Foundation of San Francisco is confident that it will successfully prove that it never engaged in any willful misconduct as to any city grant or contract,” Goins wrote in an email to KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11928222\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11928222\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A man dressed in a business suit stands in front of a microphone with a large sign behind him.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/RS59200_DSC09553-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco City Attorney David Chiu at City Hall on October 9, 2022. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Chiu announced Monday that he \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfcityattorney.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/2024.05.06-Counts-and-Allegations-Seeking-Debarment-and-Order-of-Suspension.pdf\">launched debarment proceedings\u003c/a> against Providence while immediately suspending it from bidding on or receiving new contracts or grants from the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a difference between having challenges with financial compliance and intentionally defrauding the city and its taxpayers,” Chiu said in a statement. “My office’s work to root out bad actors who take advantage of our public resources continues. We will find out about your misdeeds, cut off your funding, and hold you accountable.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The action follows rising scrutiny of the city’s nonprofits in recent years and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11981767/audit-finds-sf-homeless-housing-provider-misspent-taxpayer-money\">comes on the heels of a city audit released last month\u003c/a> that found HomeRise, a leading developer of housing for people exiting homelessness in San Francisco, has been “careless and irresponsible” with taxpayer money, spending $12,500 on a social event and handing out $200,000 in bonuses, among other improprieties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence’s contracts with the city, through the Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing, include one to run the Oasis Hotel, a shelter for families experiencing homelessness; another to run a navigation center; and others to operate supportive services and housing voucher programs, according to Chiu’s office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The alleged fraud involves falsified invoices related to maintenance at the Oasis Hotel. The city attorney claims the hotel was never painted nor had locks removed as reported on invoices, which also allegedly list a false contractor’s license number.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence Foundation Executive Director Patricia Doyle signed off on these bills, according to Chiu’s office, and should have known they were fake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The lack of new exterior paint is obvious to any person who views the Oasis, let alone the executive director and director of operations of the nonprofit in charge of operating the hotel,” according to a press release from the office. “In fact, a facilities report that the city commissioned after the Oasis had purportedly been painted lists ‘exterior paint’ as one of the shelter’s most pressing needs due to rust and fungus on the exterior of the building.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"homelessness"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Chiu is also accusing the nonprofit of hiring “members of at least seven different families,” including children of the executive director and vice president of the board, in violation of the anti-nepotism provision in the grant agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing called Providence out on its hiring practices and other contract violations starting in March 2023.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“HSH has received complaints from Providence staff about personnel mismanagement, personnel oversight and inappropriate hiring practices,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfcityattorney.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/HSH-Corrective-Action-Letters.pdf\">one letter to the nonprofit reads\u003c/a>. The letter also lists complaints of wage theft, inadequate staffing, nepotism and accusations that Providence Foundation Director of Operations Kenisha Roach video-recorded guests and staff at the Oasis without permission during private conversations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Providence could be barred from getting city contracts or grants for up to five years through the debarment process, which is an administrative rather than legal procedure and is expected to take several months. At the city attorney’s request, the controller will appoint an independent hearing officer to hear arguments from both sides and decide. Debarment requires a finding of “willful misconduct.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The suspension will stay in place until the debarment proceeding is resolved. It doesn’t put an end to Providence’s current city contracts but could be grounds for terminating them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985194/sf-homeless-services-provider-accused-of-nepotism-100k-fraud","authors":["11276"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_27626","news_30728","news_4020","news_1775","news_38"],"featImg":"news_11985221","label":"news"},"news_11984363":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11984363","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11984363","score":null,"sort":[1714746697000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"im-gonna-miss-it-inside-one-of-asiasfs-last-live-cabarets-in-the-soma","title":"‘I’m Gonna Miss It’: Inside One of AsiaSF’s Last Live Cabarets in SoMa","publishDate":1714746697,"format":"standard","headTitle":"‘I’m Gonna Miss It’: Inside One of AsiaSF’s Last Live Cabarets in SoMa | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>They’re called the Ladies of AsiaSF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent Sunday night, they danced and sashayed on the bar counter-turned stage of this cabaret and restaurant while the crowd clapped, snapped and whistled. The ladies lip-synched and emoted songs by Rihanna, Madonna and Beyoncé. And just like those pop icons, they’re known only by their first names.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It embraced me like nobody else. It gave me a place to be who I really am,” Karmina said while folding napkins before the guests arrived.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For more than a quarter century, AsiaSF has been a pioneer in supporting and showcasing transgender performers like Karmina.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She started working at AsiaSF in 2000 while volunteering for the Asian HIV-AIDS educational group called the Rice Girls. Living as a gay man before, Karmina said, “It never crossed my mind that I could live my authentic life … Karmina was born here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in February, the beloved San Francisco institution announced it was closing its doors on March 31, the Transgender Day of Visibility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984346\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984346\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jasmine (left) and Karmina perform at AsiaSF in San Francisco on April 26, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The news jolted the city’s LGBTQ+ community and generated overwhelming support for the club. AsiaSF had to add dates and show times that kept the venue open until April 28.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we made the announcement, the community has come forth,” said Larry Hashbarger, founder and CEO of AsiaSF, in his office behind the club in San Francisco’s South of Market neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, it wasn’t enough to save the iconic institution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The whole nightlife scene has changed dramatically since COVID, so the dynamics of running a nighttime business has been challenged,” Hashbarger said. He added he was ready to retire and, along with his co-owners, decided it was time to close the shop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984352\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984352\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kimmy (left) and Larry Hashbarger, founder and CEO of AsiaSF, watch performances at the dinner theatre in San Francisco on April 26, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But Hashbarger said that since news of the closure became public, every show sold out. For the last three months, Asia SF has operated like it did in its heyday. And on the night I attended the show, the club was packed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spoke with Blaire after she got ready for the performance. At first, Blaire came off as shy and somewhat reserved. She transitioned during her teens, so by the time she got to AsiaSF at 24, she said she felt confident in her identity. But she spent a decade doing hair and had never performed before. Now, eight years later, she’s a pro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Learning how to perform has been, more so, learning how to embrace myself on the stage,” said Blaire, who served as emcee that night. She pumped up the crowd, no longer as bashful as she first seemed. And with every prompt to cheer, the room got hyped, ready to embrace their favorite ladies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984347\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984347\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Blair performs at Asia SF in San Francisco on April 26, 2024. The SoMa restaurant and cabaret, starring transgender women, closed its doors on April 28, 2024, after 26 years. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Besides the performances, audience engagement was one of AsiaSF’s specialties. On intermissions and at the end of the shows, the performers mingled with guests as they served drinks and closed tabs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While most dinner shows offer salads and pastas, AsiaSF took pride in its California-Asian fusion menu, a three-course meal of dishes like tamarind chicken satay, blackened tuna sashimi, orange lamb, “baby got back” ribs and green tea cheesecake. Signature cocktails bore the personalities of the performers: Karmina’s Kiss, Blair’s Temptation and Gia’s Espresso Martini.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AsiaSF opened in April 1998, when the dot-com industry was just bubbling in San Francisco. The city was home to a handful of venues like The Motherlode, Finnochio’s and The Stud that featured what was then called “drag shows.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984348\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984348\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gia performs at AsiaSF in San Francisco on April 26, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Inspired by his travels to Thailand, where Hashbarger saw transgender women performing, he had a flash of inspiration. He decided to bring a piece of Southeast Asia to San Francisco — hence, AsiaSF. Co-founder Skip Young worked as an investment and advertising executive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we first opened, the word transgender wasn’t even in our vocabulary. AsiaSF evolved with the language,” Hashbarger said.[aside postID=news_11981253 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/03/240217-OAKLAND-QUEER-SPACES-KSM-04-KQED-1920x1280-1-1020x680.jpg']Karmina said words like “drag,” “transvestites,” “TG,” “transsexuals” and “gender illusionists” were used to describe the performers. “For the latter part of our existence, they called it cabaret. For us, it’s just [the] AsiaSF experience.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the years, AsiaSF has stayed true to its mission of bringing love and diversity to the city. When it finally closed, it marked a 26-year legacy as a haven for transgender women and a place that touched and transformed lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hashbarger said AsiaSF will continue as a pop-up performance troupe beyond the walls of its San Francisco home. But employees said the club’s closure is heartbreaking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s scary. It’s sad. I don’t know what I’ll be doing after this,” said Violet, who at 25 is the youngest and last-hired performer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many staff, like Karmina, have worked here almost as long as AsiaSF has been open. It became a family — the same feeling they wanted the audience to leave with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The whole essence of AsiaSF is, like, we connect with people, hosting their parties,” she said. “They cheer for us. It validates who you are. I’m gonna miss it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As one of the Bay Area’s most iconic clubs, AsiaSF has proudly showcased and supported transgender performers for the past 26 years. KQED captured one of its last live shows before it permanently closed.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1714777786,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1010},"headData":{"title":"‘I’m Gonna Miss It’: Inside One of AsiaSF’s Last Live Cabarets in SoMa | KQED","description":"As one of the Bay Area’s most iconic clubs, AsiaSF has proudly showcased and supported transgender performers for the past 26 years. 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Consul","nprStoryId":"kqed-11984363","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11984363/im-gonna-miss-it-inside-one-of-asiasfs-last-live-cabarets-in-the-soma","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>They’re called the Ladies of AsiaSF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent Sunday night, they danced and sashayed on the bar counter-turned stage of this cabaret and restaurant while the crowd clapped, snapped and whistled. The ladies lip-synched and emoted songs by Rihanna, Madonna and Beyoncé. And just like those pop icons, they’re known only by their first names.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It embraced me like nobody else. It gave me a place to be who I really am,” Karmina said while folding napkins before the guests arrived.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For more than a quarter century, AsiaSF has been a pioneer in supporting and showcasing transgender performers like Karmina.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She started working at AsiaSF in 2000 while volunteering for the Asian HIV-AIDS educational group called the Rice Girls. Living as a gay man before, Karmina said, “It never crossed my mind that I could live my authentic life … Karmina was born here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in February, the beloved San Francisco institution announced it was closing its doors on March 31, the Transgender Day of Visibility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984346\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984346\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-018-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jasmine (left) and Karmina perform at AsiaSF in San Francisco on April 26, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The news jolted the city’s LGBTQ+ community and generated overwhelming support for the club. AsiaSF had to add dates and show times that kept the venue open until April 28.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we made the announcement, the community has come forth,” said Larry Hashbarger, founder and CEO of AsiaSF, in his office behind the club in San Francisco’s South of Market neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, it wasn’t enough to save the iconic institution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The whole nightlife scene has changed dramatically since COVID, so the dynamics of running a nighttime business has been challenged,” Hashbarger said. He added he was ready to retire and, along with his co-owners, decided it was time to close the shop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984352\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984352\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-036-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kimmy (left) and Larry Hashbarger, founder and CEO of AsiaSF, watch performances at the dinner theatre in San Francisco on April 26, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But Hashbarger said that since news of the closure became public, every show sold out. For the last three months, Asia SF has operated like it did in its heyday. And on the night I attended the show, the club was packed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spoke with Blaire after she got ready for the performance. At first, Blaire came off as shy and somewhat reserved. She transitioned during her teens, so by the time she got to AsiaSF at 24, she said she felt confident in her identity. But she spent a decade doing hair and had never performed before. Now, eight years later, she’s a pro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Learning how to perform has been, more so, learning how to embrace myself on the stage,” said Blaire, who served as emcee that night. She pumped up the crowd, no longer as bashful as she first seemed. And with every prompt to cheer, the room got hyped, ready to embrace their favorite ladies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984347\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984347\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-025-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Blair performs at Asia SF in San Francisco on April 26, 2024. The SoMa restaurant and cabaret, starring transgender women, closed its doors on April 28, 2024, after 26 years. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Besides the performances, audience engagement was one of AsiaSF’s specialties. On intermissions and at the end of the shows, the performers mingled with guests as they served drinks and closed tabs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While most dinner shows offer salads and pastas, AsiaSF took pride in its California-Asian fusion menu, a three-course meal of dishes like tamarind chicken satay, blackened tuna sashimi, orange lamb, “baby got back” ribs and green tea cheesecake. Signature cocktails bore the personalities of the performers: Karmina’s Kiss, Blair’s Temptation and Gia’s Espresso Martini.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AsiaSF opened in April 1998, when the dot-com industry was just bubbling in San Francisco. The city was home to a handful of venues like The Motherlode, Finnochio’s and The Stud that featured what was then called “drag shows.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984348\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984348\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240426-ASIASF-027-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gia performs at AsiaSF in San Francisco on April 26, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Inspired by his travels to Thailand, where Hashbarger saw transgender women performing, he had a flash of inspiration. He decided to bring a piece of Southeast Asia to San Francisco — hence, AsiaSF. Co-founder Skip Young worked as an investment and advertising executive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we first opened, the word transgender wasn’t even in our vocabulary. AsiaSF evolved with the language,” Hashbarger said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11981253","hero":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/03/240217-OAKLAND-QUEER-SPACES-KSM-04-KQED-1920x1280-1-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Karmina said words like “drag,” “transvestites,” “TG,” “transsexuals” and “gender illusionists” were used to describe the performers. “For the latter part of our existence, they called it cabaret. For us, it’s just [the] AsiaSF experience.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the years, AsiaSF has stayed true to its mission of bringing love and diversity to the city. When it finally closed, it marked a 26-year legacy as a haven for transgender women and a place that touched and transformed lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hashbarger said AsiaSF will continue as a pop-up performance troupe beyond the walls of its San Francisco home. But employees said the club’s closure is heartbreaking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s scary. It’s sad. I don’t know what I’ll be doing after this,” said Violet, who at 25 is the youngest and last-hired performer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many staff, like Karmina, have worked here almost as long as AsiaSF has been open. It became a family — the same feeling they wanted the audience to leave with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The whole essence of AsiaSF is, like, we connect with people, hosting their parties,” she said. “They cheer for us. It validates who you are. I’m gonna miss it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11984363/im-gonna-miss-it-inside-one-of-asiasfs-last-live-cabarets-in-the-soma","authors":["byline_news_11984363"],"programs":["news_72","news_26731"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_19133","news_32662","news_27626","news_20004","news_24608","news_38"],"featImg":"news_11984349","label":"source_news_11984363"},"news_11782405":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11782405","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11782405","score":null,"sort":[1714644006000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"tunnels-under-san-francisco-inside-the-dark-dangerous-world-of-the-sewers","title":"Tunnels Under San Francisco? Inside the Dark, Dangerous World of the Sewers","publishDate":1714644006,"format":"video","headTitle":"Tunnels Under San Francisco? Inside the Dark, Dangerous World of the Sewers | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a>, we’ve received a \u003cem>lot\u003c/em> of questions about tunnels under San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Listeners have told us they’ve heard stories of secret passageways running under the city. They’ve asked us, what is the truth about them?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first thing I should tell you is: They’re absolutely real.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>What Lies Beneath?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The myth of the underground — a silent world hidden under our feet — is an endlessly alluring one. There are, after all, very \u003cem>real\u003c/em> labyrinths under major world cities. Like the infamous \u003ca href=\"http://catacombes.paris.fr/en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">catacombs of Paris\u003c/a>, lined with the bones of the city’s dead, or the \u003ca href=\"https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/odessa-catacombs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">terrifying catacombs under Odesa\u003c/a> in Ukraine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people get so obsessed with the idea of tunnels that they search for underground adventures themselves. They call themselves “urban explorers.” If you hit Google looking for information on San Francisco’s particular underground, there’s a name that comes up again and again — an explorer named \u003ca href=\"http://www.sierrahartman.com/sf-underground\">Sierra Hartman\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782642\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782642 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Sierra-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Sierra-1.png 700w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Sierra-1-160x103.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Somewhere under San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sierra Hartman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A photographer and writer, Hartman’s haunting photographs of shadowy spaces under S.F. are, for many people, their first clue that this particular world of tunnels really does exist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s just ingrained in human nature, you know?” Hartman says of the drive to venture below. “You wonder what’s down there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hartman lives in Tacoma, Washington, but grew up in Southern California. It was roaming around on his bike as a kid with friends, Goonies-style, that he discovered the dark urban waterways in his hometown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You take a 12-year-old kid and show them an entrance of a tunnel? Like, they’re \u003cem>going\u003c/em> to go in,” Hartman says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782644\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782644 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_v96zDttNjTR0Bhsu_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_v96zDttNjTR0Bhsu_.png 700w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_v96zDttNjTR0Bhsu_-160x103.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Somewhere under San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sierra Hartman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Arriving in San Francisco later in life, he began exploring the city’s streets at night with his camera. One of those nights, a chance encounter with a manhole left open led him beneath the San Francisco for the first time — and sparked an adult passion for urban exploration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Across the sleeping city, Hartman found entrances to dark, dripping tunnels, sloshing wet, that stretched for miles into the blackness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So much of it is just overgrown,” he says of those doorways. “You don’t \u003cem>realize\u003c/em> that there is a whole underground part of this thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like many urban explorers, Hartman says, he enjoyed the thrill of the hunt almost as much as the actual discovery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Like solving a puzzle,” he says. “It’s as much about solving the mystery and finding the thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782645\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782645 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_bKc1L_JmfVh4mTQZ_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_bKc1L_JmfVh4mTQZ_.png 700w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_bKc1L_JmfVh4mTQZ_-160x103.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Somewhere under San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sierra Hartman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He used a mixture of publicly available records and maps, Google Earth, and whispers from fellow urban explorers, who are notoriously secretive about their finds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At least some of that is due to the risks of their enterprise. Bodily dangers aside, urban exploration represents “at best a gray area of legality in some places, and outright trespassing in other places,” as Hartman puts it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the part where I tell you that this underground network Hartman risked bodily harm to venture into is no mysterious labyrinth built by shadowy figures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s San Francisco’s huge sewer network.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>A Complex World You Don’t See\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“I crawl through a lot of sewer pipes. That’s basically my job,” says Megan Abadie, an assistant engineer for the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission wastewater enterprise. Her job sees her enter those same tunnels — legally — to make sure that this giant, intricate system filled with your waste keeps working the way it’s meant to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782900\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782900 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie in her office at San Francisco’s Public Utilities Commission. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>There are a lot of misconceptions about the sewers, Abadie says. For one, what we surface-dwellers call “tunnels” aren’t truly tunnels — a term that specifically means a long run of pipe bored out of the earth with only a few manholes attached. When we talk of the “tunnels under San Francisco,” we’re usually talking, in fact, about sewer mains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco is 49 square miles but has over 1,000 miles of sewer mains under every block. What makes our system unique in California is the fact that it’s a combined system. Instead of stormwater and sewage water being separated into different pipes, as they are elsewhere in the state, in San Francisco, it all flows into the same set of pipes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782624\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782624 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut.jpg 1885w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie, deep in the San Francisco sewers. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This is a legacy of the city’s relative age, with the foundations of our modern-day sewers being laid during the Gold Rush — in what Abadie describes as “a very ad hoc system … people would build pipes to just connect to the nearest creek.” There are still some pipes under your feet that date from the 1840s, she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just like in New York — another old, dense city — it was too hard to rip up San Francisco’s sewer network to replace the old system with secondary pipes. So we’ve repaired and adapted our old system, which is why this city still has those big, wide sewer mains … that people can’t seem to stay out of.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>A Lethal Labyrinth\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of things that can happen in the sewer that can actually kill you pretty easily,” Abadie reminds me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For one thing, there’s the risk of drowning down there. Because of San Francisco’s steep topography, Abadie and her colleagues never enter the sewers if there’s so much as a drizzle of rain anywhere in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782637\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782637 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie in the sewers of San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“If you’re in a large pipe at the bottom of a hill, it doesn’t take much for a big slug of water to hit you, even if it’s not raining very much where you are,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, there’s the danger of toxic gas, namely hydrogen sulfide, produced when organic material (waste matter, seaweed) starts to decompose. At low levels, it has a distinctive smell of rotten eggs. At higher levels, it affects a person’s sense of smell entirely and can knock you out — and kill you — within minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782625\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782625 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie in the San Francisco sewers. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On top of \u003cem>that\u003c/em>, there’s the threat of simply getting lost, injured or both in the sewers. Abadie and her fellow inspectors are equipped with accurate maps and supported by a large chain of people both below and above ground — weather spotters, medics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I go into the sewer system, I know exactly where I am. … You go into a pipe that you see sticking out somewhere? Open up a manhole? You’re not going to know where you are,” Abadie says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782638\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782638 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stooping low in the sewers. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After hearing this, I had \u003cem>zero\u003c/em> intention of exploring the sewers alone for this story. But I couldn’t resist asking Megan to take me down to see an underground place that Sierra Hartman had told me about.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>A Trip into the Underworld\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>It looked more like a cave than a sewer, Hartman says. And I knew urban explorers like him would spend months, even years, trying to track down its precise location — because of how striking it looked and how it led right out to the Pacific Ocean.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Abadie knew exactly the place Hartman meant and asked me to wait until the timing was just right when it’d be safe enough at low tide, with no chance of rain. That timing turned out to be very early in the morning on the Fourth of July, the lowest tide of the year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782626\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782626 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Reporter Carly Severn being lowered into the sewer system. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As Abadie’s crew secured a harness and waist-high waders to my body, she explained why we’d be taking gas meters and oxygen masks down there. Even though the fast flow of the system we’d be entering would lower the hydrogen sulfide risk, “you can go into a sewer that’s been fine every single time, and one year something can be different,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With safety equipment secured, we were lowered one by one into the tunnel by rope, down a tall, rusting ladder until we finally reached the bottom of the sewer with a splash. The water reached our knees. Ahead, through the humid, misty air, was a long, high tunnel that seemed to stretch for miles in front of us. Down there in the darkness was that “sewer cave” — and the ocean. During the rainy season, Abadie reminded me that the tunnel we stood in would have been full of water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782631\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1851px\">\u003ca href=\"manho\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782631 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1851\" height=\"1056\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut.jpg 1851w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut-160x91.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut-800x456.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut-1020x582.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut-1200x685.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1851px) 100vw, 1851px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Reporter Carly Severn is lowered down through a manhole. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Surprisingly, the sewers don’t smell how you might fear they would: the odor is agricultural, like a farmyard smell. Yet no matter how pleasant this surprise, wading through high sewer water in such humidity quickly becomes exhausting, like walking through deep snow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we walked through the tunnel, our voices echoing off the walls, Abadie told me about her first entries into the sewers after she started working for the city in 2011. The underground network, she says, reminded her of the vast Mines of Moria in “The Lord of the Rings.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I thought it was really cool. I even thought it was cool seeing a little turd float by! I mean, that’s not something everyone gets to see,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782632\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1885px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782632 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1885\" height=\"1060\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut.jpg 1885w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1885px) 100vw, 1885px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Exploring deep under San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As we got closer to what \u003cem>I’d\u003c/em> come to see — that cave — the crashing of the Pacific Ocean suddenly grew louder. Looming in front of us, there it was: What looked like the tall, wide mouth of a cave, deep under San Francisco, carved from dark, jutting rock and yawning into more blackness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This,” Abadie says with some pride, “is definitely the most scenic and beautiful combined sewer overflow in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782633\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"Sruti%20Mamidanna/KQED\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782633 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Carly Severn and Megan Abadie in the mouth of the ‘sewer cave.’\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Passing through the cave, we had to stoop to get through the last part of our journey, our helmets scraping the ceiling. We were now inside the discharge pipe: the way the system can safely get water out during heavy storms, while providing primary-level treatment, when the usual storage areas under the city are full to the brim.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the end of the pipe, the waves we could hear crashing close suddenly became visible, as I found myself looking out at the ocean, framed by rock. After hours underground, it was now daylight out there. That entrance onto the water is, unthinkably, how some explorers try to get \u003cem>in\u003c/em> here via a tiny strip of beach that opens up only for a brief period of time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782636\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1846px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782636 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1846\" height=\"1038\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut.jpg 1846w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1846px) 100vw, 1846px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A glimpse of the Pacific Ocean. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As the tide started to rise, the waves started to crash further and further into the pipe toward us, and we knew it was time to go. As we moved back through the tunnel, the difference in smell was palpable: The people of San Francisco were waking up and were starting to use their bathrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After being attached to the rope and hauled out of the darkness and up through the manhole again, I was suddenly out of the city’s underworld. Exhausted, after hours of trudging through sewer water, the call of the underground was only more apparent to me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what could people do, I asked Abadie, if after hearing the truth about the darkness and danger down there, they \u003cem>still\u003c/em> couldn’t resist the lure of subterranean exploration?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782640\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1891px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782640 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1891\" height=\"1064\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut.jpg 1891w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1891px) 100vw, 1891px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie in the discharge pipe leading out to the ocean. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We have a lot of people retiring here. You can come work for us!” she says. “We will get you into sewers. It’ll be awesome. Your passion can actually get you \u003cem>paid\u003c/em> to explore sewers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Or become a public radio reporter,” she added. “Those are two ways that you can get into sewers and not die.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story first published on Oct. 31, 2019 and was updated and republished on May 2, 2024. Special thanks to Evan Thompson with his assistance for this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Sounds of birds, dog barking]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Around us all the time is the city that we know. The same stretch of sidewalk we walk on every day, the bus stop on the corner, our favorite restaurants, our neighborhood parks. If you live anywhere long enough, you can think you’ve seen it all. But what if beneath the streets there was another world? A place that’s so close to you all the time, but you wouldn’t even recognize it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Bay Curious theme music starts] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hey everyone, Olivia Allen-Price here. Over the years we’ve been running Bay Curious, we’ve received a bunch of questions about tunnels. Listeners who say they’ve heard stories of secret passageways running under San Francisco. \u003c/span>We aired an episode on the topic in 2019, but your questions have kept on coming … So today we’re going to revisit it, and answer the question do these tunnels exist?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sponsor Message\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Those stories about hidden underground tunnel systems in the Bay Area. They’re true!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Underground tunnels echo]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: The structure is absolutely amazing. It’s also quite scary. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: That voice you just heard was recorded deep under the streets of San Francisco, and it belongs to reporter Carly Severn. We sent her to investigate the secret world under the city,\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Mystical music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> A lot of you will have heard the legends about the very real labyrinths under major world cities, like the famous catacombs of Paris, that are lined with the bones of the city’s dead. And if you hit Google looking for information on San Francisco’s underground like I did, there’s a name that comes up again and again an urban explorer called Sierra Hardman. And his incredible, haunting photographs of shadowy spaces under the city are, for many people, their first clue that this world of tunnels really exists. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sierra Hartman: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think it’s just ingrained in human nature. You know, you wonder what’s down there. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Sierra told me he’s been obsessed with exploring the underground since he was a kid, back when he was growing up in Southern California, riding around on his bike, Goonies style, and peering into dark urban waterways. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sierra Hartman: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I mean, you take a 12 year old kid and you show them an entrance of a tunnel like they’re gonna to go in. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When he was older, he moved to San Francisco and started roaming the streets with his camera while the rest of the city was sleeping, just looking for secret entry ways underground, guided by maps and city plans and whispers from other urban explorers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sierra Hartman: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So much of it is just overgrown. Yeah, you drove past it so many times you don’t really recognize it as something really special. You don’t realize that there’s a whole, like, underground part of this thing.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He found doorways and manholes that led him down into dark, dripping tunnels stretching into blackness beyond the reach of his flashlight. But this network of underground spaces, this is no secret labyrinth built by shadowy figures. It’s San Francisco’s huge sewer network, and there’s one person in this city that knows the sewers inside out. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: So my name’s Megan Abadie. I’m an assistant engineer for the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission Wastewater Enterprise. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Megan’s job is making sure that system – yep – pipes filled with your waste works.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I crawl through a lot of sewer pipes. That’s basically my job. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wastewater management, what we call sewers, can sound kind of gross, but how this stuff all works is pretty impressive. \u003c/span>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">San Francisco is about a seven by seven, you know, 49-50 mile square city. And we actually have over 1000 miles of sewer main. There’s sewers under every block. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The thing about the city’s sewers is many of these pipes are big. Big enough for curious risk takers to walk through rather than crawl, which isn’t possible in many other cities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">San Francisco has a very different type of sewer system than pretty much any other city in California. It has what’s called a combined system. That means that the stormwater and the sewage water leak from your toilet and your sinks, it all goes into the same set of pipes.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We have an old city, and that one pipe system was how folks did it back then. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">San Francisco’s sewer network, began to be built during the Gold Rush era. So there are some pipes that date from the 1840s. It was a very ad hoc system at that time that people would build pipes to just connect to the nearest creek. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Just like in New York, another old dense city. It was too hard to rip up San Francisco’s sewer network to add secondary pipes. So we’ve repaired and adapted our old system, creating a maze of those big wide sewer mains. But listen, if you’re hearing this and are feeling the lure of exploring the world on the San Francisco yourself, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">don’t\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Seriously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There’s a lot of things that can happen in the sewer that can actually kill you pretty easily. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There was no way I was going to follow in the footsteps of an urban explorer like Sierra Hartmann and go roaming under San Francisco alone. But there was this one particular place that Sierra told me about that I knew I really wanted to see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Dramatic music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A passageway somewhere beneath San Francisco that’s famous for its otherworldly look. Sierra had to pour over old sewer maps to find it. I was told it looks more like a cave than a sewer. And it leads right out onto the Pacific Ocean. Megan knew exactly the place I meant. And when conditions were just right, she said she’d take me down there herself. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We’ll be over 200 feet below the ground, actually. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Crew conversation in the background]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And so that’s how I end up with Megan and her crew, at 2 AM on the 4th of July in a harness, in a waist-high waders, getting recording equipment taped to my body, about to be lowered down into an open manhole. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">…Does it feel..? Oh, look like it’s a good height, you don’t need to adjust the height.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Our underground journey will lead us through a very watery tunnel, through that sewer cave, and into what they call a discharge pipe. Now, that pipe is the way the system can safely get water out during really heavy storms, when the usual storage areas under the city are full to the brim. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yeah, so when we get out into the discharge pipe, you’re going to hear the ocean, just boring through this final stretch of tunnel. And you can actually, like, feel it. You can’t just hear it – you can feel it in your gut. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I can’t wait!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As one of her crew is strapping a bright yellow gas meter onto my suit, Megan tells me more about the very real dangers of being in the sewers. The big one is a lethal gas called hydrogen sulfide that can kill you before you know it’s there. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> You can smell it at low levels, it smells like rotten eggs. At higher levels that actually kills the nerves, it kills your smell nerves, it kills your old factory nerves. So at higher levels, at levels high enough to be dangerous, you won’t smell it at all.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> And because of the gas risk, I’m getting an air pack too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> That’s exactly like the, oxygen masks that you have on an airplane. You just put it over your face and breathe through it, and it’ll give you oxygen. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Okay, well, fingers crossed we don’t end up using these. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You won’t, you won’t. But it’s good to know how to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After all this, I’m finally lowered down many feet into the tunnel by rope down a tall, rusting ladder until we splash into knee deep water and into the sewer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Sounds of water splashes]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I’m staring down into a long, gaping tunnel that seems to stretch out for miles. Oh my goodness. This is exactly like I thought it would be, from watching horror movies. The air is really damp, exactly like they said it would be. You can kind of see this fine mist in the air, and I can hear my voice echoing in a really crazy way. There’s water flow under my feet… And it’s like walking through stream with a really dirty stream. Speaker 2: [00:08:45] We start to make our way toward the sewer cave that few people have seen. Megan tells me that had it been raining above ground, this tunnel would have been a lethal river of freezing water right up to the roof. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah, this would totally be fun. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Oh, yeah. You wouldn’t – we don’t go into the system when there’s even a drizzle.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you ever wondered what it sounds like to wade through raw sewage, it’s pretty much like this.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Carly wading through water]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Weirdly, it does not smell that bad in here. Well, at least not as bad as I thought. Kind of smells like if you spent time on a farm. Kind of smells like that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I started working in for the city in 2011 and doing sewer entry.. So that was after the \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lord of the Rings\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> movies came out, and it reminded me of the mines of Moria with all the pillars, except it was full of water. Yeah. I thought it was really cool. I even thought it was cool seeing little turds float by. I mean, that’s not something everyone gets to see. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As we get closer to what I’d come to see. That cave, the crashing of the ocean out on the outside world suddenly gets louder. And then looming in front of us, right there in the tunnel. There it is. What looks like the tall, wide mouth of a cave, deep under San Francisco, dark, jutting rock yawning into more blackness. The entrance to the pipe that leads out to the water.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It’s amazing. It looks like it looks like a Middle Earth. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yeah. Isn’t it beautiful? This is, this is definitely the most scenic and beautiful combined sewer overflow in San Francisco. It’s the only one that’s carved into raw stone like this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We walk into the cave through a stretch of that discharge pipe, and there’s the final surprise. We can see the Pacific Ocean just feet away, framed by the rock. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Water flowing] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After hours underground, we’re now staring at broad daylight. This entrance, unthinkably, is how some explorers try to get in here from the outside via a tiny strip of beach that only opens up for a brief period of time. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> It’s a bad idea to go into the sewer anywhere, but it’s a really bad idea to go into the sewer via an access point that is only going to be passable for like, an hour or two.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Crouching there in that pipe, I see how quickly the waves are starting to rush towards us, a sign that it was time to hurry out of there and back above ground.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Okay, it is definitely smelling a little different on our return journey, and I think that’s because people have woken up by now and let’s just say they are using their bathrooms. And after being reattached the rope and having my tired body hauled out of the darkness and up through the manhole again like that, I am out of the underworld. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Carly laughing]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And out into daylight on the 4th of July. Cool. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So there you have it. San Francisco’s secret underground is pretty incredible, even if our legendary tunnels are actually some not so secret sewers after all. Except… maybe there’s something Sierra told me that I couldn’t get out of my mind. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Mystical music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sierra Hartman: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A lot of these sewers are maps. Because in the 1906 earthquake and the entire city, or the entire eastern half of the city anyway, just burned to the ground. They lost tons of records of infrastructure. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And you know what? According to the city, he’s right. So there is still a touch of mystery under San Francisco, after all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Music fades]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> That was KQED’s Carly Seven. This is a story that you really need to see, not just listen to. Video producer Sruti Mamidanna made a video from Carly’s trip and it is very cool. You can find it at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://baycurious.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">baycurious.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> – we’ll drop a link in the show notes too. It’s a new month, which means a new voting round is up at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://baycurious.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">baycurious.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>.\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Let’s hear the choices. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Question 1 : \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How clean is the Bay Area water? Is it safe to swim? Are some areas better than others? What would it take to get it fully clean or safe? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Question 2: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Whatever happened to the Bay area’s camels? I went to high school in Benicia and heard things about the camel barns. There are no longer camels in the barns. Where did they go, and why were they there to begin with?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Question 3: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What’s the deal with the Devil’s Slide? And how did I get that name? Had to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://baycurious.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">baycurious.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to cast your vote, for which question we should answer next.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Bay Curious is produced by Katrina Schwartz, Christopher Bill, Tamuna Chkareuli, and me, Olivia Allen-Price with support from Kimberly Low, Molly Wu, Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldana, Maha Sanad, Holly Kernan and KQED family. Bay Curious is made in San Francisco at member supported KQED. I’m Olivia Allen-Price. We’ll see you next week. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Take a trip with us into the hidden world lying under San Francisco's streets.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1714656525,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":true,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":126,"wordCount":4782},"headData":{"title":"Tunnels Under San Francisco? Inside the Dark, Dangerous World of the Sewers | KQED","description":"Take a trip with us into the hidden world lying under San Francisco's streets.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Tunnels Under San Francisco? Inside the Dark, Dangerous World of the Sewers","datePublished":"2024-05-02T10:00:06.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-02T13:28:45.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"videoEmbed":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=726sQLKGAjk","source":"Bay Curious","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/news/series/baycurious","audioUrl":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chrt.fm/track/G6C7C3/traffic.megaphone.fm/KQINC5310262395.mp3?updated=1714610657","sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-11782405","audioTrackLength":879,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11782405/tunnels-under-san-francisco-inside-the-dark-dangerous-world-of-the-sewers","parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a>, we’ve received a \u003cem>lot\u003c/em> of questions about tunnels under San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Listeners have told us they’ve heard stories of secret passageways running under the city. They’ve asked us, what is the truth about them?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first thing I should tell you is: They’re absolutely real.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>What Lies Beneath?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The myth of the underground — a silent world hidden under our feet — is an endlessly alluring one. There are, after all, very \u003cem>real\u003c/em> labyrinths under major world cities. Like the infamous \u003ca href=\"http://catacombes.paris.fr/en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">catacombs of Paris\u003c/a>, lined with the bones of the city’s dead, or the \u003ca href=\"https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/odessa-catacombs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">terrifying catacombs under Odesa\u003c/a> in Ukraine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people get so obsessed with the idea of tunnels that they search for underground adventures themselves. They call themselves “urban explorers.” If you hit Google looking for information on San Francisco’s particular underground, there’s a name that comes up again and again — an explorer named \u003ca href=\"http://www.sierrahartman.com/sf-underground\">Sierra Hartman\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782642\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782642 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Sierra-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Sierra-1.png 700w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Sierra-1-160x103.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Somewhere under San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sierra Hartman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A photographer and writer, Hartman’s haunting photographs of shadowy spaces under S.F. are, for many people, their first clue that this particular world of tunnels really does exist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s just ingrained in human nature, you know?” Hartman says of the drive to venture below. “You wonder what’s down there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hartman lives in Tacoma, Washington, but grew up in Southern California. It was roaming around on his bike as a kid with friends, Goonies-style, that he discovered the dark urban waterways in his hometown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You take a 12-year-old kid and show them an entrance of a tunnel? Like, they’re \u003cem>going\u003c/em> to go in,” Hartman says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782644\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782644 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_v96zDttNjTR0Bhsu_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_v96zDttNjTR0Bhsu_.png 700w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_v96zDttNjTR0Bhsu_-160x103.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Somewhere under San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sierra Hartman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Arriving in San Francisco later in life, he began exploring the city’s streets at night with his camera. One of those nights, a chance encounter with a manhole left open led him beneath the San Francisco for the first time — and sparked an adult passion for urban exploration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Across the sleeping city, Hartman found entrances to dark, dripping tunnels, sloshing wet, that stretched for miles into the blackness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So much of it is just overgrown,” he says of those doorways. “You don’t \u003cem>realize\u003c/em> that there is a whole underground part of this thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like many urban explorers, Hartman says, he enjoyed the thrill of the hunt almost as much as the actual discovery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Like solving a puzzle,” he says. “It’s as much about solving the mystery and finding the thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782645\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782645 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_bKc1L_JmfVh4mTQZ_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_bKc1L_JmfVh4mTQZ_.png 700w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/0_bKc1L_JmfVh4mTQZ_-160x103.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Somewhere under San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sierra Hartman)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He used a mixture of publicly available records and maps, Google Earth, and whispers from fellow urban explorers, who are notoriously secretive about their finds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At least some of that is due to the risks of their enterprise. Bodily dangers aside, urban exploration represents “at best a gray area of legality in some places, and outright trespassing in other places,” as Hartman puts it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the part where I tell you that this underground network Hartman risked bodily harm to venture into is no mysterious labyrinth built by shadowy figures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s San Francisco’s huge sewer network.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>A Complex World You Don’t See\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“I crawl through a lot of sewer pipes. That’s basically my job,” says Megan Abadie, an assistant engineer for the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission wastewater enterprise. Her job sees her enter those same tunnels — legally — to make sure that this giant, intricate system filled with your waste keeps working the way it’s meant to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782900\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782900 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39803__M6A1972-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie in her office at San Francisco’s Public Utilities Commission. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>There are a lot of misconceptions about the sewers, Abadie says. For one, what we surface-dwellers call “tunnels” aren’t truly tunnels — a term that specifically means a long run of pipe bored out of the earth with only a few manholes attached. When we talk of the “tunnels under San Francisco,” we’re usually talking, in fact, about sewer mains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco is 49 square miles but has over 1,000 miles of sewer mains under every block. What makes our system unique in California is the fact that it’s a combined system. Instead of stormwater and sewage water being separated into different pipes, as they are elsewhere in the state, in San Francisco, it all flows into the same set of pipes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782624\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782624 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39789_Megan_Tunnel_05-qut.jpg 1885w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie, deep in the San Francisco sewers. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This is a legacy of the city’s relative age, with the foundations of our modern-day sewers being laid during the Gold Rush — in what Abadie describes as “a very ad hoc system … people would build pipes to just connect to the nearest creek.” There are still some pipes under your feet that date from the 1840s, she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just like in New York — another old, dense city — it was too hard to rip up San Francisco’s sewer network to replace the old system with secondary pipes. So we’ve repaired and adapted our old system, which is why this city still has those big, wide sewer mains … that people can’t seem to stay out of.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>A Lethal Labyrinth\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of things that can happen in the sewer that can actually kill you pretty easily,” Abadie reminds me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For one thing, there’s the risk of drowning down there. Because of San Francisco’s steep topography, Abadie and her colleagues never enter the sewers if there’s so much as a drizzle of rain anywhere in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782637\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782637 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39787_Megan_Tunnel_02-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie in the sewers of San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“If you’re in a large pipe at the bottom of a hill, it doesn’t take much for a big slug of water to hit you, even if it’s not raining very much where you are,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, there’s the danger of toxic gas, namely hydrogen sulfide, produced when organic material (waste matter, seaweed) starts to decompose. At low levels, it has a distinctive smell of rotten eggs. At higher levels, it affects a person’s sense of smell entirely and can knock you out — and kill you — within minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782625\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782625 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39796_Tunnel_02-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie in the San Francisco sewers. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On top of \u003cem>that\u003c/em>, there’s the threat of simply getting lost, injured or both in the sewers. Abadie and her fellow inspectors are equipped with accurate maps and supported by a large chain of people both below and above ground — weather spotters, medics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I go into the sewer system, I know exactly where I am. … You go into a pipe that you see sticking out somewhere? Open up a manhole? You’re not going to know where you are,” Abadie says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782638\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782638 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39773_Carly_DischargePipe-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stooping low in the sewers. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After hearing this, I had \u003cem>zero\u003c/em> intention of exploring the sewers alone for this story. But I couldn’t resist asking Megan to take me down to see an underground place that Sierra Hartman had told me about.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>A Trip into the Underworld\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>It looked more like a cave than a sewer, Hartman says. And I knew urban explorers like him would spend months, even years, trying to track down its precise location — because of how striking it looked and how it led right out to the Pacific Ocean.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Abadie knew exactly the place Hartman meant and asked me to wait until the timing was just right when it’d be safe enough at low tide, with no chance of rain. That timing turned out to be very early in the morning on the Fourth of July, the lowest tide of the year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782626\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782626 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39779_Carly-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Reporter Carly Severn being lowered into the sewer system. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As Abadie’s crew secured a harness and waist-high waders to my body, she explained why we’d be taking gas meters and oxygen masks down there. Even though the fast flow of the system we’d be entering would lower the hydrogen sulfide risk, “you can go into a sewer that’s been fine every single time, and one year something can be different,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With safety equipment secured, we were lowered one by one into the tunnel by rope, down a tall, rusting ladder until we finally reached the bottom of the sewer with a splash. The water reached our knees. Ahead, through the humid, misty air, was a long, high tunnel that seemed to stretch for miles in front of us. Down there in the darkness was that “sewer cave” — and the ocean. During the rainy season, Abadie reminded me that the tunnel we stood in would have been full of water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782631\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1851px\">\u003ca href=\"manho\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782631 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1851\" height=\"1056\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut.jpg 1851w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut-160x91.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut-800x456.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut-1020x582.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39786_Megan_entrance-qut-1200x685.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1851px) 100vw, 1851px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Reporter Carly Severn is lowered down through a manhole. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Surprisingly, the sewers don’t smell how you might fear they would: the odor is agricultural, like a farmyard smell. Yet no matter how pleasant this surprise, wading through high sewer water in such humidity quickly becomes exhausting, like walking through deep snow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we walked through the tunnel, our voices echoing off the walls, Abadie told me about her first entries into the sewers after she started working for the city in 2011. The underground network, she says, reminded her of the vast Mines of Moria in “The Lord of the Rings.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I thought it was really cool. I even thought it was cool seeing a little turd float by! I mean, that’s not something everyone gets to see,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782632\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1885px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782632 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1885\" height=\"1060\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut.jpg 1885w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39772_Carly_03-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1885px) 100vw, 1885px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Exploring deep under San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As we got closer to what \u003cem>I’d\u003c/em> come to see — that cave — the crashing of the Pacific Ocean suddenly grew louder. Looming in front of us, there it was: What looked like the tall, wide mouth of a cave, deep under San Francisco, carved from dark, jutting rock and yawning into more blackness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This,” Abadie says with some pride, “is definitely the most scenic and beautiful combined sewer overflow in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782633\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"Sruti%20Mamidanna/KQED\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782633 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39775_Carly_Megan_03-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Carly Severn and Megan Abadie in the mouth of the ‘sewer cave.’\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Passing through the cave, we had to stoop to get through the last part of our journey, our helmets scraping the ceiling. We were now inside the discharge pipe: the way the system can safely get water out during heavy storms, while providing primary-level treatment, when the usual storage areas under the city are full to the brim.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the end of the pipe, the waves we could hear crashing close suddenly became visible, as I found myself looking out at the ocean, framed by rock. After hours underground, it was now daylight out there. That entrance onto the water is, unthinkably, how some explorers try to get \u003cem>in\u003c/em> here via a tiny strip of beach that opens up only for a brief period of time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782636\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1846px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782636 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1846\" height=\"1038\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut.jpg 1846w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39771_4.34-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1846px) 100vw, 1846px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A glimpse of the Pacific Ocean. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As the tide started to rise, the waves started to crash further and further into the pipe toward us, and we knew it was time to go. As we moved back through the tunnel, the difference in smell was palpable: The people of San Francisco were waking up and were starting to use their bathrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After being attached to the rope and hauled out of the darkness and up through the manhole again, I was suddenly out of the city’s underworld. Exhausted, after hours of trudging through sewer water, the call of the underground was only more apparent to me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what could people do, I asked Abadie, if after hearing the truth about the darkness and danger down there, they \u003cem>still\u003c/em> couldn’t resist the lure of subterranean exploration?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11782640\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1891px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11782640 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1891\" height=\"1064\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut.jpg 1891w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39791_Megandischarge-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1891px) 100vw, 1891px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Megan Abadie in the discharge pipe leading out to the ocean. \u003ccite>(Sruti Mamidanna )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We have a lot of people retiring here. You can come work for us!” she says. “We will get you into sewers. It’ll be awesome. Your passion can actually get you \u003cem>paid\u003c/em> to explore sewers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Or become a public radio reporter,” she added. “Those are two ways that you can get into sewers and not die.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story first published on Oct. 31, 2019 and was updated and republished on May 2, 2024. Special thanks to Evan Thompson with his assistance for this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"baycuriousquestion","attributes":{"named":{"label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Sounds of birds, dog barking]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Around us all the time is the city that we know. The same stretch of sidewalk we walk on every day, the bus stop on the corner, our favorite restaurants, our neighborhood parks. If you live anywhere long enough, you can think you’ve seen it all. But what if beneath the streets there was another world? A place that’s so close to you all the time, but you wouldn’t even recognize it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Bay Curious theme music starts] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hey everyone, Olivia Allen-Price here. Over the years we’ve been running Bay Curious, we’ve received a bunch of questions about tunnels. Listeners who say they’ve heard stories of secret passageways running under San Francisco. \u003c/span>We aired an episode on the topic in 2019, but your questions have kept on coming … So today we’re going to revisit it, and answer the question do these tunnels exist?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sponsor Message\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: Those stories about hidden underground tunnel systems in the Bay Area. They’re true!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Underground tunnels echo]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: The structure is absolutely amazing. It’s also quite scary. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: That voice you just heard was recorded deep under the streets of San Francisco, and it belongs to reporter Carly Severn. We sent her to investigate the secret world under the city,\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Mystical music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> A lot of you will have heard the legends about the very real labyrinths under major world cities, like the famous catacombs of Paris, that are lined with the bones of the city’s dead. And if you hit Google looking for information on San Francisco’s underground like I did, there’s a name that comes up again and again an urban explorer called Sierra Hardman. And his incredible, haunting photographs of shadowy spaces under the city are, for many people, their first clue that this world of tunnels really exists. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sierra Hartman: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think it’s just ingrained in human nature. You know, you wonder what’s down there. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Sierra told me he’s been obsessed with exploring the underground since he was a kid, back when he was growing up in Southern California, riding around on his bike, Goonies style, and peering into dark urban waterways. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sierra Hartman: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I mean, you take a 12 year old kid and you show them an entrance of a tunnel like they’re gonna to go in. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When he was older, he moved to San Francisco and started roaming the streets with his camera while the rest of the city was sleeping, just looking for secret entry ways underground, guided by maps and city plans and whispers from other urban explorers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sierra Hartman: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So much of it is just overgrown. Yeah, you drove past it so many times you don’t really recognize it as something really special. You don’t realize that there’s a whole, like, underground part of this thing.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He found doorways and manholes that led him down into dark, dripping tunnels stretching into blackness beyond the reach of his flashlight. But this network of underground spaces, this is no secret labyrinth built by shadowy figures. It’s San Francisco’s huge sewer network, and there’s one person in this city that knows the sewers inside out. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: So my name’s Megan Abadie. I’m an assistant engineer for the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission Wastewater Enterprise. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Megan’s job is making sure that system – yep – pipes filled with your waste works.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I crawl through a lot of sewer pipes. That’s basically my job. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wastewater management, what we call sewers, can sound kind of gross, but how this stuff all works is pretty impressive. \u003c/span>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">San Francisco is about a seven by seven, you know, 49-50 mile square city. And we actually have over 1000 miles of sewer main. There’s sewers under every block. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The thing about the city’s sewers is many of these pipes are big. Big enough for curious risk takers to walk through rather than crawl, which isn’t possible in many other cities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">San Francisco has a very different type of sewer system than pretty much any other city in California. It has what’s called a combined system. That means that the stormwater and the sewage water leak from your toilet and your sinks, it all goes into the same set of pipes.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We have an old city, and that one pipe system was how folks did it back then. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">San Francisco’s sewer network, began to be built during the Gold Rush era. So there are some pipes that date from the 1840s. It was a very ad hoc system at that time that people would build pipes to just connect to the nearest creek. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Just like in New York, another old dense city. It was too hard to rip up San Francisco’s sewer network to add secondary pipes. So we’ve repaired and adapted our old system, creating a maze of those big wide sewer mains. But listen, if you’re hearing this and are feeling the lure of exploring the world on the San Francisco yourself, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">don’t\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Seriously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There’s a lot of things that can happen in the sewer that can actually kill you pretty easily. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There was no way I was going to follow in the footsteps of an urban explorer like Sierra Hartmann and go roaming under San Francisco alone. But there was this one particular place that Sierra told me about that I knew I really wanted to see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Dramatic music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A passageway somewhere beneath San Francisco that’s famous for its otherworldly look. Sierra had to pour over old sewer maps to find it. I was told it looks more like a cave than a sewer. And it leads right out onto the Pacific Ocean. Megan knew exactly the place I meant. And when conditions were just right, she said she’d take me down there herself. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We’ll be over 200 feet below the ground, actually. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Crew conversation in the background]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And so that’s how I end up with Megan and her crew, at 2 AM on the 4th of July in a harness, in a waist-high waders, getting recording equipment taped to my body, about to be lowered down into an open manhole. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">…Does it feel..? Oh, look like it’s a good height, you don’t need to adjust the height.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Our underground journey will lead us through a very watery tunnel, through that sewer cave, and into what they call a discharge pipe. Now, that pipe is the way the system can safely get water out during really heavy storms, when the usual storage areas under the city are full to the brim. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yeah, so when we get out into the discharge pipe, you’re going to hear the ocean, just boring through this final stretch of tunnel. And you can actually, like, feel it. You can’t just hear it – you can feel it in your gut. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I can’t wait!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As one of her crew is strapping a bright yellow gas meter onto my suit, Megan tells me more about the very real dangers of being in the sewers. The big one is a lethal gas called hydrogen sulfide that can kill you before you know it’s there. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> You can smell it at low levels, it smells like rotten eggs. At higher levels that actually kills the nerves, it kills your smell nerves, it kills your old factory nerves. So at higher levels, at levels high enough to be dangerous, you won’t smell it at all.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> And because of the gas risk, I’m getting an air pack too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> That’s exactly like the, oxygen masks that you have on an airplane. You just put it over your face and breathe through it, and it’ll give you oxygen. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Okay, well, fingers crossed we don’t end up using these. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You won’t, you won’t. But it’s good to know how to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After all this, I’m finally lowered down many feet into the tunnel by rope down a tall, rusting ladder until we splash into knee deep water and into the sewer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Sounds of water splashes]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I’m staring down into a long, gaping tunnel that seems to stretch out for miles. Oh my goodness. This is exactly like I thought it would be, from watching horror movies. The air is really damp, exactly like they said it would be. You can kind of see this fine mist in the air, and I can hear my voice echoing in a really crazy way. There’s water flow under my feet… And it’s like walking through stream with a really dirty stream. Speaker 2: [00:08:45] We start to make our way toward the sewer cave that few people have seen. Megan tells me that had it been raining above ground, this tunnel would have been a lethal river of freezing water right up to the roof. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah, this would totally be fun. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Oh, yeah. You wouldn’t – we don’t go into the system when there’s even a drizzle.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you ever wondered what it sounds like to wade through raw sewage, it’s pretty much like this.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Carly wading through water]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Weirdly, it does not smell that bad in here. Well, at least not as bad as I thought. Kind of smells like if you spent time on a farm. Kind of smells like that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I started working in for the city in 2011 and doing sewer entry.. So that was after the \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lord of the Rings\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> movies came out, and it reminded me of the mines of Moria with all the pillars, except it was full of water. Yeah. I thought it was really cool. I even thought it was cool seeing little turds float by. I mean, that’s not something everyone gets to see. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As we get closer to what I’d come to see. That cave, the crashing of the ocean out on the outside world suddenly gets louder. And then looming in front of us, right there in the tunnel. There it is. What looks like the tall, wide mouth of a cave, deep under San Francisco, dark, jutting rock yawning into more blackness. The entrance to the pipe that leads out to the water.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It’s amazing. It looks like it looks like a Middle Earth. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yeah. Isn’t it beautiful? This is, this is definitely the most scenic and beautiful combined sewer overflow in San Francisco. It’s the only one that’s carved into raw stone like this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We walk into the cave through a stretch of that discharge pipe, and there’s the final surprise. We can see the Pacific Ocean just feet away, framed by the rock. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Water flowing] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After hours underground, we’re now staring at broad daylight. This entrance, unthinkably, is how some explorers try to get in here from the outside via a tiny strip of beach that only opens up for a brief period of time. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Megan Abadie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> It’s a bad idea to go into the sewer anywhere, but it’s a really bad idea to go into the sewer via an access point that is only going to be passable for like, an hour or two.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Crouching there in that pipe, I see how quickly the waves are starting to rush towards us, a sign that it was time to hurry out of there and back above ground.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Okay, it is definitely smelling a little different on our return journey, and I think that’s because people have woken up by now and let’s just say they are using their bathrooms. And after being reattached the rope and having my tired body hauled out of the darkness and up through the manhole again like that, I am out of the underworld. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Carly laughing]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And out into daylight on the 4th of July. Cool. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So there you have it. San Francisco’s secret underground is pretty incredible, even if our legendary tunnels are actually some not so secret sewers after all. Except… maybe there’s something Sierra told me that I couldn’t get out of my mind. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Mystical music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sierra Hartman: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A lot of these sewers are maps. Because in the 1906 earthquake and the entire city, or the entire eastern half of the city anyway, just burned to the ground. They lost tons of records of infrastructure. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Carly Severn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And you know what? According to the city, he’s right. So there is still a touch of mystery under San Francisco, after all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Music fades]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> That was KQED’s Carly Seven. This is a story that you really need to see, not just listen to. Video producer Sruti Mamidanna made a video from Carly’s trip and it is very cool. You can find it at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://baycurious.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">baycurious.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> – we’ll drop a link in the show notes too. It’s a new month, which means a new voting round is up at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://baycurious.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">baycurious.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>.\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Let’s hear the choices. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Question 1 : \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How clean is the Bay Area water? Is it safe to swim? Are some areas better than others? What would it take to get it fully clean or safe? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Question 2: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Whatever happened to the Bay area’s camels? I went to high school in Benicia and heard things about the camel barns. There are no longer camels in the barns. Where did they go, and why were they there to begin with?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Question 3: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What’s the deal with the Devil’s Slide? And how did I get that name? Had to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://baycurious.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">baycurious.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to cast your vote, for which question we should answer next.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Bay Curious is produced by Katrina Schwartz, Christopher Bill, Tamuna Chkareuli, and me, Olivia Allen-Price with support from Kimberly Low, Molly Wu, Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldana, Maha Sanad, Holly Kernan and KQED family. Bay Curious is made in San Francisco at member supported KQED. I’m Olivia Allen-Price. 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