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But getting through the holiday season with Thanksgiving just now and the December holidays, plus the hiring freezes, it's going to be really hard to get an offer within the 60-day grace period that would allow the future employer to have enough prep time to do the three to four weeks of work that it takes to get an H-1B ready for filing with the government,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of people familiar with American immigration law say the 60-day grace period doesn't accurately reflect the panic many workers and their families are in right now because of the paperwork involved in transitioning to a new job. “There's a whole prefiling subcomponent with a totally different government agency besides USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) and the Department of Homeland Security,” Alcorn explained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You have to get a certified labor condition application approved with the Department of Labor. 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And to uproot, sell everything and move back to your home country, within two months. For any human, any individual, it's hard.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Vidhi Agrawal, commercial operations director, Databricks","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>An unemployed H-1B visa holder has to find a new employer, or “sponsor,” within 60 days, or leave the country. Thousands of Bay Area tech and biotech workers have surged onto sites like LinkedIn, frantically looking for friendly faces, like 36-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/vidhiagrawal/\">Vidhi Agrawal\u003c/a> of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An H-1B visa holder herself, Agrawal works at the San Francisco software company Databricks. She and a friend have been running an informal database linking H-1B visa holders with prospective employers. In the last two weeks, the off-hours project has exploded from roughly 50 friends and acquaintances to over 500 people nationwide. She’s also in contact with about 100 hiring managers and recruiters from multiple companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a sudden thing that happens, and you have family, you have kids here, who’ve grown up here,” said Agrawal. “And to uproot, sell everything and move back to your home country, within two months. For any human, any individual, it’s hard.” To make matters worse, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11913665/200000-documented-dreamers-are-literally-waiting-a-lifetime-for-a-green-card\">many Indian H-1B holders are in a years-long queue to get a green card\u003c/a>, and leaving the country is tantamount to letting go of a huge investment of time and patience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Agrawal added that H-1B visa workers are always particularly vulnerable to layoffs. “We did sign up for this. When we come on work visas, we know what we’re signing up for. It’s not, like, things have changed on us,” she said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11913665,news_11931311,forum_2010101891200","label":"Related Posts "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the very least, \u003ca href=\"https://www.immihelp.com/h-1b-visa-layoff-and-60-days-grace-period/\">employers are required to notify federal immigration authorities and cover the cost of a plane flight back to the home country\u003c/a> when they lay off H-1B workers. Many companies, however, offer more support than that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Remarking on the mass layoffs at Meta, \u003ca href=\"https://about.fb.com/news/2022/11/mark-zuckerberg-layoff-message-to-employees/\">Mark Zuckerberg, for instance, wrote\u003c/a>, “I know this is especially difficult if you’re here on a visa. There’s a notice period before termination and some visa grace periods, which means everyone will have time to make plans and work through their immigration status. We have dedicated immigration specialists to help guide you based on what you and your family need.” Private attorneys, of course, are eager to help for a fee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-on-our-team\">Lyft\u003c/a> offers those on visas \u003ca href=\"https://www.lyft.com/blog/posts/an-update-on-our-team\">the option to extend employment (with no expectation to work)\u003c/a> for an additional eight weeks in lieu of eight weeks of severance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That's a huge benefit, because it means they have a greater time runway,” said Sophie Alcorn, who runs \u003ca href=\"https://www.alcorn.law/\">Alcorn Immigration Law\u003c/a> in Mountain View and writes about immigration for \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/07/dear-sophie-how-can-i-stay-in-the-us-if-ive-been-laid-off/\">TechCrunch\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of the laid-off tech workers have plenty of savings. They could find another job eventually. But getting through the holiday season with Thanksgiving just now and the December holidays, plus the hiring freezes, it's going to be really hard to get an offer within the 60-day grace period that would allow the future employer to have enough prep time to do the three to four weeks of work that it takes to get an H-1B ready for filing with the government,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of people familiar with American immigration law say the 60-day grace period doesn't accurately reflect the panic many workers and their families are in right now because of the paperwork involved in transitioning to a new job. “There's a whole prefiling subcomponent with a totally different government agency besides USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) and the Department of Homeland Security,” Alcorn explained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You have to get a certified labor condition application approved with the Department of Labor. Plus, many of the companies that have the funds to hire right now are early stage tech companies who listen to their venture capitalists and preserve their cash. So now they can hire, which is great. But if they're new to the immigration process, getting set up as a petitioning employer takes additional time. So I've been advising people to try to get interviews as soon as possible and, if at all possible, try to accept an offer before the end of the first month of the H-1B grace period.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been lucky, for the most part,” said 39-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/gutgutia/\">Abhishek Gutgutia\u003c/a> of San José. “Companies I’ve worked with have been wonderful. But there are definitely companies out there who take advantage of immigrant workers, H1-B workers, because they are afraid of losing status, or they just don’t know, and that’s not OK.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gutgutia arrived in the U.S. in 2012 to get his MBA. After graduation, he got an H-1B, then transitioned to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/employment-based-immigration-first-preference-eb-1\">EB1-A\u003c/a>, and got a green card after 10 years of waiting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The entrepreneur saw the mass layoffs as an opportunity to start a new company, \u003ca href=\"http://www.gozeno.io/\">Zeno\u003c/a>, which he characterizes as TurboTax for DIY-minded immigrants. “I’ve been on H-1B visa in the past,” said Gutgutia. “So I know the pain points all too well, which also inspired me to start this venture.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is there any chance of a fix, even a temporary one, in Washington D.C.? Alcorn says she’s talking about it with lawmakers and professional associations. “We're putting together a coalition to request executive action to temporarily extend the 60-day grace period for this group of people to 180 days, so that there's more time runway to stay in the country and look for other jobs, or self-petition green cards or, without illegally working, create a funded start-up that could then be their employer in the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11933511/mass-bay-area-tech-layoffs-thrust-thousands-of-h-1b-visa-holders-into-frantic-job-hunt","authors":["251"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_32055","news_18123","news_20526","news_22750","news_32053","news_2011","news_353","news_6176","news_5745","news_32054"],"featImg":"news_11933519","label":"news"},"news_11925476":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11925476","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11925476","score":null,"sort":[1663182350000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"facebooks-group-admins-at-their-wits-end-over-content-moderation","title":"Popular Facebook Group Admin Pulls Plug on Groups Over Content Moderation","publishDate":1663182350,"format":"audio","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>History fans who frequent Facebook's popular history Groups are in for a shock when they next log in. Nick Wright, founder of \u003ca class=\"c-link\" href=\"https://www.facebook.com/HistoryAlliance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-stringify-link=\"https://www.facebook.com/HistoryAlliance\" data-sk=\"tooltip_parent\" data-remove-tab-index=\"true\">History Alliance\u003c/a> — an umbrella group that, until recently, boasted more than two dozen history groups and 1.3 million members — shut down a host of Groups Tuesday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Groups closed include SF Photography (with 141,500 members), World History (104,000), Yosemite Photo (35,500), San Francisco Current Events (20,500) and California History (120,000).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That is a good start,\" Wright wrote to KQED. Already, in mid-August, he shut down WWII (85,000 members), and then, just a few days ago, Oakland History (61,400). \"I think I need to shut all these 1.3 million member groups down. There is just no end game that ends well in this.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wright, who lives in San José, says he and more than 30 fellow volunteer group administrators have been engaged in a war of attrition with Facebook because of the platform’s AI-led content moderation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Facebook’s users are not really customers in the traditional sense. They don’t pay to be on the platform, which boasts close to 3 billion users. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/10/22827708/meta-facebook-instagram-account-lockout-support-tools\">Facebook has been criticized for years for its limited human customer support\u003c/a>, and \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">even the power users who run Facebook Groups sometimes struggle to get help.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11925514\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11925514\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM-800x524.png\" alt=\"A screenshot of a post on a Facebook page.\" width=\"800\" height=\"524\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM-800x524.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM-1020x667.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM-160x105.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM.png 1250w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Facebook history Group fans may have noticed recently that their Groups have been paused. The administrators claim the platform’s content-moderation software is driving them to distraction. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Nick Wright/Image from Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In a lot of ways, Facebook Groups would seem to be the best example of organic user engagement on the platform: real people talking to each other about common interests. It’s Facebook as the company wants to be seen, judging from its “More Together” ad campaign.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgGAZOIHxTs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In this ad, young hipsters support each other in the search for mental health. But running a bunch of groups has not been good for Nick Wright’s mental health the last couple of years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They should be encouraging and mentoring us, not putting their foot on our necks,” Wright said. “You would think they were doing us a favor. Somehow they lost sight that we are doing them a favor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A failure to communicate\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For example, Wright said, a photo with something flesh-colored in it can sometimes “read” as porn to the software. Or let's say Wright, a \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-jose-man-uses-old-pictures-to-create-new-views-of-early-san-francisco/202451/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">self-taught digital stitcher of historic photographs\u003c/a>, writes a mini-essay on a photo of San Francisco long out of copyright protection he's unearthed. Then he posts that in SF Photography, SF History, California History and other groups in the History Alliance that seem a likely fit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The software may well read these repeat posts as spam, and take action against his account if he keeps doing this kind of thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A Facebook spokesperson said this would be a “correct” determination on the part of the software, even though Wright is a). an administrator, and b). posting about history in c). history groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11925516\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11925516\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM-800x1099.png\" alt=\"A screenshot from a Facebook message to another user.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1099\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM-800x1099.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM-160x220.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM.png 830w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Facebook Messenger exchange between Nick Wright and fellow Facebook user Mark Reed: 'He did a nice post of an 1860s house that I saw and right while we were talking, FB removed it for Spam. Completely unwarranted,' Wright wrote. 'This is a great way to kill a group and stop people from posting and interacting.' \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Nick Wright/Image from Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The flesh-colored photo reading as porn, though, would be an example of a “\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://transparency.fb.com/data/community-standards-enforcement/spam/facebook/#restored-content\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">false positive\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">,” a legitimate post the software incorrectly flags as suspicious. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13907310/facebook-account-deletion-ai-content-moderation-failure\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It happens.\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The rules that govern Facebook content moderation are also notoriously \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/08/25/facebook-newsworthiness-politicians-exemption-cross-check/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">inconsistently applied\u003c/a>. Wright also has a host of screenshots to back up his claims that Facebook’s software sometimes temporarily restricts moderators’ personal accounts for failing to stop false positives, or even restricts offending groups. \u003c/span>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“We have spent tens of thousands of hours to create these groups without any pay or reward from Facebook,” Wright wrote KQED. “We are now being penalized by Facebook for running these groups, as they hold us accountable for applying their community standards to user posts and regularly victimize us with their erroneous and anemic AI, yet give us no recourse. Now they are stopping new members from joining our groups and threatening to close our groups.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A Facebook spokesperson who dug into his claims rejects Wright’s characterization of what’s happening. The spokesperson wrote that the company recognizes there’s no one-size-fits-all approach to being a group administrator, and that Facebook has a number of resources available to help them run the groups and get help when problems arise — but, no, hands-on human tech support is not often available, even to power users like those in History Alliance.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11925558\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM.jpeg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11925558\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM-800x1160.jpeg\" alt='An alert from Facebook reads \"A group participant shared a comment that goes against our Community Standards on violence and incitement.\"' width=\"800\" height=\"1160\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM-800x1160.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM-160x232.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM.jpeg 888w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A screenshot of a flagged Facebook post in the San Francisco Current Events group. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Nick Wright/Image from Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Facebook spokesperson also argued that the history moderators are bringing trouble on themselves in a variety of ways: using more than one personal Facebook account, a violation of \u003ca href=\"https://transparency.fb.com/policies/community-standards/account-integrity-and-authentic-identity/\">Facebook terms\u003c/a>; uploading the same posts in multiple groups at “high frequency,” which qualifies as \u003ca href=\"https://transparency.fb.com/policies/community-standards/spam/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">spam\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">; and repeatedly posting material that Facebook AI believes they don’t have the copyright to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s an example of the kind of alert Wright’s administrators receive when a post is deleted by the content-moderation software:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hello,\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ve removed content posted on your Facebook group San Francisco Music because we received a report that it infringes someone else’s intellectual property rights. Please ensure content posted on your group does not infringe someone else's intellectual property rights. If additional content is posted to this group that infringes or violates someone else's rights or otherwise violates the law, Facebook may be required to remove the group entirely.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The content was posted by ________. The responsible party who posted the content also has been notified about this report.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks,\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Facebook Team\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Wright started moderating in 2013, and claims Facebook used to provide a number of tools to help him manage groups that are no longer available to him. These days, for example, he uses his own Excel spreadsheet to track membership in the various groups. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11855408/social-media-giants-banned-trump-but-they-still-have-lots-of-problems\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All social platforms face immense pressure\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — from politicians, human rights advocates and, even, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11746028/as-facebook-pivots-to-private-platforms-how-will-we-monitor-fake-news-and-hate-speech\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">journalists like myself\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — to weed out all sorts of \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11702239/why-its-so-hard-to-scrub-hate-speech-off-social-media\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">toxic things\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: porn, spam, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11919374/report-anti-hindu-hate-speech-surges-on-social-media\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">hate speech\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11806039/coronavirus-conspiracies-and-misinformation-what-social-media-companies-are-doing-about-it\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">health-related misinformation\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and political disinformation. Major platforms all at least attempt to moderate content to ensure civil discourse. In some cases, laws require them to.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Nick Wright, founder, History Alliance Groups on Facebook\"]'We are now being penalized by Facebook for running these groups as they hold us accountable for applying their community standards to user posts and regularly victimize us with their erroneous and anemic AI, yet give us no recourse.'[/pullquote]\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, it bears acknowledging that real violations will happen in Facebook Groups, and happen all the time. But the automatic flagging is incessant, according to Wright, leading to something akin to alert fatigue — but also fatigue with the automated relationship he has with the platform’s software.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“It's a judgment call, right and wrong half the time. Then they're, like, you know, ‘You made a bad call. You approved this thing. And we're going to hold it against you for the next three months.’ Every time you log on, it shows that you've got demerits against the group. It's just annoying, right?” Wright said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He first decided to take down a history group in mid-August, and shared a screenshot of his announcement to his secret group for fellow history administrators. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Everything shared in a secret group is visible only to its members — and, it turns out, the content-moderation software\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11925518\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11925518 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM-800x948.png\" alt='A screenshot from Facebook that reads \"This post goes against our Community Standards on spam\" at the top.' width=\"800\" height=\"948\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM-800x948.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM-1020x1208.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM-160x190.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM.png 1258w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A screenshot of a message to Nick Wright alerting him that his post had been flagged as spam. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Nick Wright/Image from Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Facebook spokesperson wrote that it’s up to Wright and his colleagues to take better advantage of \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/community/whats-new/new-tools-features-nurture-community/\">an ever-growing host of software tools\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> like “\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/community/using-key-groups-tools/using-facebook-admin-support/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Admin Support\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">,” to educate themselves as to why they and their groups are getting repeatedly dinged by the software. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Occasionally, a rank-and-file Facebook user becomes so upset with the lack of human customer support, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/enraged-facebook-user-convicted-of-threatening-menlo-park-campus/\">they show up at headquarters making physical threats (and get arrested)\u003c/a>. Meta’s independent \u003ca href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-25/facebook-meta-is-building-a-customer-service-group-for-content-complaints\">Oversight Board has reportedly received more than a million appeals from users\u003c/a>, many of them related to account support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Facebook did offer this comment from the company’s Vice President of Governance Brent Harris: “Meta is investing into improving customer support for our platforms. This is something the board has asked for briefings on and continues to advocate for. The sheer volume of appeals to the board shows that the public sees them as a voice for users on this issue.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>If users aren't Meta's customers, who are?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">However, users aren’t Meta’s customers — advertisers are. During \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://investor.fb.com/investor-events/default.aspx\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Meta Platforms’ second-quarter 2022 earnings conference call\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, CEO Mark Zuckerberg said he was pleased with how the company’s content-moderation efforts are coming along. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Every quarter, we release a \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://about.fb.com/news/2022/08/community-standards-enforcement-report-q2-2022/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">community standards enforcement report\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> where, basically, the main metric is identifying what percent of the harmful content do our systems identify and take action on before someone has to report it to us?” said Zuckerberg. “And those metrics are generally moving in the right direction.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Subbu Vincent, director of the Journalism and Media Ethics program at the Markkula Center for Applied Ethics at Santa Clara University, suggests a different set of metrics. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“It would be good for the Oversight Board to ask them to disclose every quarter how many users complained, what were the types of complaints, how many did they process humanly, how many did they process by machine, how many resulted in a reversal of the initial decision because it was a mistake by the company,” Vincent said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Facebook's been criticized for years for its limited human customer support, but even the power users who run Facebook Groups sometimes struggle to get help.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1663697776,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":34,"wordCount":1760},"headData":{"title":"Popular Facebook Group Admin Pulls Plug on Groups Over Content Moderation | KQED","description":"Facebook's been criticized for years for its limited human customer support, but even the power users who run Facebook Groups sometimes struggle to get help.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Popular Facebook Group Admin Pulls Plug on Groups Over Content Moderation","datePublished":"2022-09-14T19:05:50.000Z","dateModified":"2022-09-20T18:16:16.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11925476 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11925476","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2022/09/14/facebooks-group-admins-at-their-wits-end-over-content-moderation/","disqusTitle":"Popular Facebook Group Admin Pulls Plug on Groups Over Content Moderation","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-4[…]f-aaef00f5a073/1d654e1e-a935-4528-aa13-af160126aff8/audio.mp3","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11925476/facebooks-group-admins-at-their-wits-end-over-content-moderation","audioDuration":271000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>History fans who frequent Facebook's popular history Groups are in for a shock when they next log in. Nick Wright, founder of \u003ca class=\"c-link\" href=\"https://www.facebook.com/HistoryAlliance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-stringify-link=\"https://www.facebook.com/HistoryAlliance\" data-sk=\"tooltip_parent\" data-remove-tab-index=\"true\">History Alliance\u003c/a> — an umbrella group that, until recently, boasted more than two dozen history groups and 1.3 million members — shut down a host of Groups Tuesday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Groups closed include SF Photography (with 141,500 members), World History (104,000), Yosemite Photo (35,500), San Francisco Current Events (20,500) and California History (120,000).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That is a good start,\" Wright wrote to KQED. Already, in mid-August, he shut down WWII (85,000 members), and then, just a few days ago, Oakland History (61,400). \"I think I need to shut all these 1.3 million member groups down. There is just no end game that ends well in this.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wright, who lives in San José, says he and more than 30 fellow volunteer group administrators have been engaged in a war of attrition with Facebook because of the platform’s AI-led content moderation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Facebook’s users are not really customers in the traditional sense. They don’t pay to be on the platform, which boasts close to 3 billion users. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/10/22827708/meta-facebook-instagram-account-lockout-support-tools\">Facebook has been criticized for years for its limited human customer support\u003c/a>, and \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">even the power users who run Facebook Groups sometimes struggle to get help.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11925514\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11925514\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM-800x524.png\" alt=\"A screenshot of a post on a Facebook page.\" width=\"800\" height=\"524\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM-800x524.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM-1020x667.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM-160x105.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.30.05-PM.png 1250w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Facebook history Group fans may have noticed recently that their Groups have been paused. The administrators claim the platform’s content-moderation software is driving them to distraction. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Nick Wright/Image from Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In a lot of ways, Facebook Groups would seem to be the best example of organic user engagement on the platform: real people talking to each other about common interests. It’s Facebook as the company wants to be seen, judging from its “More Together” ad campaign.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/PgGAZOIHxTs'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/PgGAZOIHxTs'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>In this ad, young hipsters support each other in the search for mental health. But running a bunch of groups has not been good for Nick Wright’s mental health the last couple of years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They should be encouraging and mentoring us, not putting their foot on our necks,” Wright said. “You would think they were doing us a favor. Somehow they lost sight that we are doing them a favor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A failure to communicate\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For example, Wright said, a photo with something flesh-colored in it can sometimes “read” as porn to the software. Or let's say Wright, a \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-jose-man-uses-old-pictures-to-create-new-views-of-early-san-francisco/202451/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">self-taught digital stitcher of historic photographs\u003c/a>, writes a mini-essay on a photo of San Francisco long out of copyright protection he's unearthed. Then he posts that in SF Photography, SF History, California History and other groups in the History Alliance that seem a likely fit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The software may well read these repeat posts as spam, and take action against his account if he keeps doing this kind of thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A Facebook spokesperson said this would be a “correct” determination on the part of the software, even though Wright is a). an administrator, and b). posting about history in c). history groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11925516\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11925516\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM-800x1099.png\" alt=\"A screenshot from a Facebook message to another user.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1099\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM-800x1099.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM-160x220.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.39.09-PM.png 830w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Facebook Messenger exchange between Nick Wright and fellow Facebook user Mark Reed: 'He did a nice post of an 1860s house that I saw and right while we were talking, FB removed it for Spam. Completely unwarranted,' Wright wrote. 'This is a great way to kill a group and stop people from posting and interacting.' \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Nick Wright/Image from Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The flesh-colored photo reading as porn, though, would be an example of a “\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://transparency.fb.com/data/community-standards-enforcement/spam/facebook/#restored-content\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">false positive\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">,” a legitimate post the software incorrectly flags as suspicious. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13907310/facebook-account-deletion-ai-content-moderation-failure\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It happens.\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The rules that govern Facebook content moderation are also notoriously \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/08/25/facebook-newsworthiness-politicians-exemption-cross-check/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">inconsistently applied\u003c/a>. Wright also has a host of screenshots to back up his claims that Facebook’s software sometimes temporarily restricts moderators’ personal accounts for failing to stop false positives, or even restricts offending groups. \u003c/span>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“We have spent tens of thousands of hours to create these groups without any pay or reward from Facebook,” Wright wrote KQED. “We are now being penalized by Facebook for running these groups, as they hold us accountable for applying their community standards to user posts and regularly victimize us with their erroneous and anemic AI, yet give us no recourse. Now they are stopping new members from joining our groups and threatening to close our groups.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A Facebook spokesperson who dug into his claims rejects Wright’s characterization of what’s happening. The spokesperson wrote that the company recognizes there’s no one-size-fits-all approach to being a group administrator, and that Facebook has a number of resources available to help them run the groups and get help when problems arise — but, no, hands-on human tech support is not often available, even to power users like those in History Alliance.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11925558\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM.jpeg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11925558\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM-800x1160.jpeg\" alt='An alert from Facebook reads \"A group participant shared a comment that goes against our Community Standards on violence and incitement.\"' width=\"800\" height=\"1160\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM-800x1160.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM-160x232.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-4.32.45-PM.jpeg 888w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A screenshot of a flagged Facebook post in the San Francisco Current Events group. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Nick Wright/Image from Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Facebook spokesperson also argued that the history moderators are bringing trouble on themselves in a variety of ways: using more than one personal Facebook account, a violation of \u003ca href=\"https://transparency.fb.com/policies/community-standards/account-integrity-and-authentic-identity/\">Facebook terms\u003c/a>; uploading the same posts in multiple groups at “high frequency,” which qualifies as \u003ca href=\"https://transparency.fb.com/policies/community-standards/spam/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">spam\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">; and repeatedly posting material that Facebook AI believes they don’t have the copyright to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s an example of the kind of alert Wright’s administrators receive when a post is deleted by the content-moderation software:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hello,\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ve removed content posted on your Facebook group San Francisco Music because we received a report that it infringes someone else’s intellectual property rights. Please ensure content posted on your group does not infringe someone else's intellectual property rights. If additional content is posted to this group that infringes or violates someone else's rights or otherwise violates the law, Facebook may be required to remove the group entirely.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The content was posted by ________. The responsible party who posted the content also has been notified about this report.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks,\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Facebook Team\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Wright started moderating in 2013, and claims Facebook used to provide a number of tools to help him manage groups that are no longer available to him. These days, for example, he uses his own Excel spreadsheet to track membership in the various groups. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11855408/social-media-giants-banned-trump-but-they-still-have-lots-of-problems\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All social platforms face immense pressure\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — from politicians, human rights advocates and, even, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11746028/as-facebook-pivots-to-private-platforms-how-will-we-monitor-fake-news-and-hate-speech\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">journalists like myself\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — to weed out all sorts of \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11702239/why-its-so-hard-to-scrub-hate-speech-off-social-media\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">toxic things\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: porn, spam, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11919374/report-anti-hindu-hate-speech-surges-on-social-media\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">hate speech\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11806039/coronavirus-conspiracies-and-misinformation-what-social-media-companies-are-doing-about-it\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">health-related misinformation\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and political disinformation. Major platforms all at least attempt to moderate content to ensure civil discourse. In some cases, laws require them to.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'We are now being penalized by Facebook for running these groups as they hold us accountable for applying their community standards to user posts and regularly victimize us with their erroneous and anemic AI, yet give us no recourse.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Nick Wright, founder, History Alliance Groups on Facebook","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, it bears acknowledging that real violations will happen in Facebook Groups, and happen all the time. But the automatic flagging is incessant, according to Wright, leading to something akin to alert fatigue — but also fatigue with the automated relationship he has with the platform’s software.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“It's a judgment call, right and wrong half the time. Then they're, like, you know, ‘You made a bad call. You approved this thing. And we're going to hold it against you for the next three months.’ Every time you log on, it shows that you've got demerits against the group. It's just annoying, right?” Wright said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He first decided to take down a history group in mid-August, and shared a screenshot of his announcement to his secret group for fellow history administrators. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Everything shared in a secret group is visible only to its members — and, it turns out, the content-moderation software\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11925518\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11925518 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM-800x948.png\" alt='A screenshot from Facebook that reads \"This post goes against our Community Standards on spam\" at the top.' width=\"800\" height=\"948\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM-800x948.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM-1020x1208.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM-160x190.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/Screen-Shot-2022-09-13-at-3.42.09-PM.png 1258w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A screenshot of a message to Nick Wright alerting him that his post had been flagged as spam. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Nick Wright/Image from Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Facebook spokesperson wrote that it’s up to Wright and his colleagues to take better advantage of \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/community/whats-new/new-tools-features-nurture-community/\">an ever-growing host of software tools\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> like “\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/community/using-key-groups-tools/using-facebook-admin-support/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Admin Support\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">,” to educate themselves as to why they and their groups are getting repeatedly dinged by the software. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Occasionally, a rank-and-file Facebook user becomes so upset with the lack of human customer support, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/enraged-facebook-user-convicted-of-threatening-menlo-park-campus/\">they show up at headquarters making physical threats (and get arrested)\u003c/a>. Meta’s independent \u003ca href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-25/facebook-meta-is-building-a-customer-service-group-for-content-complaints\">Oversight Board has reportedly received more than a million appeals from users\u003c/a>, many of them related to account support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Facebook did offer this comment from the company’s Vice President of Governance Brent Harris: “Meta is investing into improving customer support for our platforms. This is something the board has asked for briefings on and continues to advocate for. The sheer volume of appeals to the board shows that the public sees them as a voice for users on this issue.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>If users aren't Meta's customers, who are?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">However, users aren’t Meta’s customers — advertisers are. During \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://investor.fb.com/investor-events/default.aspx\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Meta Platforms’ second-quarter 2022 earnings conference call\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, CEO Mark Zuckerberg said he was pleased with how the company’s content-moderation efforts are coming along. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Every quarter, we release a \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://about.fb.com/news/2022/08/community-standards-enforcement-report-q2-2022/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">community standards enforcement report\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> where, basically, the main metric is identifying what percent of the harmful content do our systems identify and take action on before someone has to report it to us?” said Zuckerberg. “And those metrics are generally moving in the right direction.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Subbu Vincent, director of the Journalism and Media Ethics program at the Markkula Center for Applied Ethics at Santa Clara University, suggests a different set of metrics. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“It would be good for the Oversight Board to ask them to disclose every quarter how many users complained, what were the types of complaints, how many did they process humanly, how many did they process by machine, how many resulted in a reversal of the initial decision because it was a mistake by the company,” Vincent said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11925476/facebooks-group-admins-at-their-wits-end-over-content-moderation","authors":["251"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_25184","news_30390","news_31629","news_249","news_31630","news_30214","news_2011","news_353"],"featImg":"news_11925527","label":"news"},"news_11921871":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11921871","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11921871","score":null,"sort":[1659743924000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"are-people-and-businesses-leaving-the-golden-state-remembering-bill-russell","title":"Are People and Businesses Leaving the Golden State? | Remembering Bill Russell","publishDate":1659743924,"format":"video","headTitle":"KQED Newsroom | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":7052,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cb>Smithfield Foods Factory Closes\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last week, the meat-packing giant Smithfield Foods announced it will close its factory in Vernon, CA, citing the high cost of doing business in the Golden State. About 1,800 employees will lose their jobs in February next year, although some could relocate to other Smithfield facilities outside of California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We talk to New York Times economics correspondent \u003c/span>\u003cb>Kurtis Lee, \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">who reported on the Smithfield Foods story and what it says about doing business in California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Are People Leaving the Golden State?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The pandemic and high housing prices are often cited as fueling a wave of departures from the San Francisco Bay area, but are people and businesses actually fleeing in search of better opportunities elsewhere? We look at shifts in the Bay Area’s demographics and workforce. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guests:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Abbie Langston, Director of Equitable Economy, PolicyLink\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachael Myrow, KQED Silicon Valley Desk senior editor\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeremy C. Owens, San Francisco bureau chief, MarketWatch \u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Something Beautiful: Bill Russell\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last Sunday, the Bay Area and the basketball world lost an icon: Bill Russell is arguably the greatest champion the sport has ever seen. Yet, Russell’s legacy off the court is where he really left a mark. This week’s Something Beautiful celebrates Bill Russell’s impact on sports and the civil rights movement. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1660591284,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":10,"wordCount":225},"headData":{"title":"Are People and Businesses Leaving the Golden State? | Remembering Bill Russell | KQED","description":"Smithfield Foods Factory Closes Last week, the meat-packing giant Smithfield Foods announced it will close its factory in Vernon, CA, citing the high cost of doing business in the Golden State. About 1,800 employees will lose their jobs in February next year, although some could relocate to other Smithfield facilities outside of California. 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We look at shifts in the Bay Area’s demographics and workforce. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guests:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Abbie Langston, Director of Equitable Economy, PolicyLink\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachael Myrow, KQED Silicon Valley Desk senior editor\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeremy C. 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The center is a partnership between Rutgers’ \u003ca href=\"https://millercenter.rutgers.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Miller Center for Community Protection and Resilience\u003c/a>, Rutgers’ \u003ca href=\"https://intel.rutgers.edu/about-center\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Center for Critical Intelligence Studies\u003c/a> and the nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://networkcontagion.us/reports/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Network Contagion Research Institute\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The research effort was led by graduating senior Prasiddha Sudhakar, who used machine learning tools to explore the social media landscape for anti-Hindu disinformation. She was pretty sure there would be plenty of it, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wouldn't say I was surprised, given that there's been a massive rise in all forms of ethnic hatred, whether it's antisemitism, or Islamophobia, or anti-Asian hate,\" she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11919506\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11919506\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-800x426.png\" alt=\"A graph.\" width=\"800\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-800x426.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-1020x543.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-160x85.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-1536x818.png 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-2048x1091.png 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-1920x1023.png 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A charge shows a spike in use of terms like 'Hindu' and 'pajeet' on Telegram in the early months of 2022. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Network Contagion Lab at Rutgers University)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She and other Rutgers students found explosive growth in anti-Hindu slurs and slogans in the United States, beginning in the fall of 2021. This was on social media platforms you might expect to foster extremism, like 4chan and Gab, but also on mainstream platforms like Twitter, TikTok and Telegram.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These very specific tropes are targeted right directly at Hindus,” Sudhakar said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Commonly, there’s a spike in hate speech whenever someone rises to prominence from a community that’s historically been the target of prejudice. One recent example comes from San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060035782/parag-agarwal-twitter-ceo\">Parag Agrawal was appointed as Twitter CEO\u003c/a>,\" said Sudhakar, citing the November promotion. \"Immediately, there arises anti-Hindu disinformation on social media, where there were spikes in certain ethnic slurs used against him in particular.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11919392\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1644px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11919392\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1.jpeg\" alt=\"A word cloud of offensive, anti-Hindu slurs trending on various social media platforms.\" width=\"1644\" height=\"1600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1.jpeg 1644w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1-800x779.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1-1020x993.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1-160x156.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1-1536x1495.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1644px) 100vw, 1644px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A word cloud of offensive, anti-Hindu slurs trending on various social media platforms. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Network Contagion Lab at Rutgers University)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But Sudhakar and her colleagues discovered much of the anti-Hindu hate speech surge can be tied to Iranian state-sponsored trolls who are keen to exploit longstanding geopolitical tensions between Muslims and Hindus, Pakistanis and Indians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>As the connection between political events and the volume of Hinduphobic Iranian troll activity demonstrates, Anti-Hindu disinformation fluctuates with geopolitical incentives. Iran's role as mediator between India and Pakistan becomes more substantial as conflict between the nations grows.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: right\">\u003cem>— \"Anti-Hindu Disinformation: A Case Study of Hinduphobia on Social Media\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">Twitter was the only social media platforms to respond when contacted by KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">\"We are committed to combating abuse motivated by hatred, prejudice or intolerance, particularly abuse that seeks to silence the voices of those who have been historically marginalized. For this reason, we prohibit behavior that targets individuals or groups with abuse based on their perceived membership in a protected category,\" a spokesperson wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">She added that the San Francisco-based company has \"expanded our rules against dehumanization to all protected categories as well including religion and caste.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The potential for real-world violence\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">Content moderation teams at all the major social media platforms are \"drinking from a firehose\" of hateful content, according to John Farmer, who directs the Miller Center for Community Protection and Resilience at Rutgers, part of the collaboration that produced the report. The platforms have proved fertile breeding grounds for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11746552/no-lone-shooter-how-anti-semitism-is-winning-new-converts-on-the-internet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">resurrecting and refreshing hate speech tropes\u003c/a> or memes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Farmer said recent real-world attacks demonstrate that\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11765841/how-hate-filled-online-groups-encourage-budding-psychopaths-to-kill-others\"> violence commonly follows hateful memes, hashtags and such\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The common thread here is the use and abuse of social media,” he said, adding that he hopes Hindu communities in California and beyond will reach out to other faith communities already working to protect themselves, like Jews and Sikhs, to help them establish “a clear chain of what happens if something does come down.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There’s somebody detailed to respond to press inquiries. There’s somebody identified as their liaison to law enforcement. The threats can be mitigated, even if they can’t be completely stopped,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Student researchers at Rutgers University report a recent surge in anti-Hindu hate speech on multiple social media platforms, much of it state-sponsored by Iran.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1657745399,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":17,"wordCount":756},"headData":{"title":"Social Media Platforms See a Spike in Anti-Hindu Hate Speech, Report Says | KQED","description":"Student researchers at Rutgers University report a recent surge in anti-Hindu hate speech on multiple social media platforms, much of it state-sponsored by Iran.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Social Media Platforms See a Spike in Anti-Hindu Hate Speech, Report Says","datePublished":"2022-07-13T20:48:34.000Z","dateModified":"2022-07-13T20:49:59.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11919374 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11919374","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2022/07/13/report-anti-hindu-hate-speech-surges-on-social-media/","disqusTitle":"Social Media Platforms See a Spike in Anti-Hindu Hate Speech, Report Says","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-4[…]f-aaef00f5a073/987d894b-14f3-4605-a3bc-aed0010657a8/audio.mp3","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11919374/report-anti-hindu-hate-speech-surges-on-social-media","audioDuration":188000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Note: This article's visual assets contain offensive language.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A new report finds that \u003ca href=\"https://networkcontagion.us/reports/7-11-22-anti-hindu-disinformation-a-case-study-of-hinduphobia-on-social-media/\">Islamists, white nationalists and other extremists are sharing hate speech and hate-filled memes about Hindus on social media\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The real-world security concerns are substantial, especially in regions with \u003ca href=\"https://aapidata.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/CA_State_of_AANHPIs_Report_2022.pdf\">large Hindu communities\u003c/a> like the San Francisco Bay Area, where nearly half a million Asian Indians live.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'The threats can be mitigated, even if they can't be completely stopped.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","citation":"John Farmer, director, Miller Center for Community Protection and Resilience, Rutgers University","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Anti-Hindu Disinformation: A Case Study of Hinduphobia on Social Media\" comes out of a new cyber-social threat identification and forecasting center at Rutgers University. The center is a partnership between Rutgers’ \u003ca href=\"https://millercenter.rutgers.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Miller Center for Community Protection and Resilience\u003c/a>, Rutgers’ \u003ca href=\"https://intel.rutgers.edu/about-center\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Center for Critical Intelligence Studies\u003c/a> and the nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://networkcontagion.us/reports/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Network Contagion Research Institute\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The research effort was led by graduating senior Prasiddha Sudhakar, who used machine learning tools to explore the social media landscape for anti-Hindu disinformation. She was pretty sure there would be plenty of it, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wouldn't say I was surprised, given that there's been a massive rise in all forms of ethnic hatred, whether it's antisemitism, or Islamophobia, or anti-Asian hate,\" she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11919506\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11919506\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-800x426.png\" alt=\"A graph.\" width=\"800\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-800x426.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-1020x543.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-160x85.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-1536x818.png 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-2048x1091.png 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-13-at-11.39.38-AM-1920x1023.png 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A charge shows a spike in use of terms like 'Hindu' and 'pajeet' on Telegram in the early months of 2022. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Network Contagion Lab at Rutgers University)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She and other Rutgers students found explosive growth in anti-Hindu slurs and slogans in the United States, beginning in the fall of 2021. This was on social media platforms you might expect to foster extremism, like 4chan and Gab, but also on mainstream platforms like Twitter, TikTok and Telegram.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These very specific tropes are targeted right directly at Hindus,” Sudhakar said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Commonly, there’s a spike in hate speech whenever someone rises to prominence from a community that’s historically been the target of prejudice. One recent example comes from San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060035782/parag-agarwal-twitter-ceo\">Parag Agrawal was appointed as Twitter CEO\u003c/a>,\" said Sudhakar, citing the November promotion. \"Immediately, there arises anti-Hindu disinformation on social media, where there were spikes in certain ethnic slurs used against him in particular.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11919392\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1644px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11919392\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1.jpeg\" alt=\"A word cloud of offensive, anti-Hindu slurs trending on various social media platforms.\" width=\"1644\" height=\"1600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1.jpeg 1644w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1-800x779.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1-1020x993.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1-160x156.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/07/pajeet-2-4chan-pajeet-hindu-india-1-1536x1495.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1644px) 100vw, 1644px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A word cloud of offensive, anti-Hindu slurs trending on various social media platforms. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Network Contagion Lab at Rutgers University)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But Sudhakar and her colleagues discovered much of the anti-Hindu hate speech surge can be tied to Iranian state-sponsored trolls who are keen to exploit longstanding geopolitical tensions between Muslims and Hindus, Pakistanis and Indians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>As the connection between political events and the volume of Hinduphobic Iranian troll activity demonstrates, Anti-Hindu disinformation fluctuates with geopolitical incentives. Iran's role as mediator between India and Pakistan becomes more substantial as conflict between the nations grows.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: right\">\u003cem>— \"Anti-Hindu Disinformation: A Case Study of Hinduphobia on Social Media\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">Twitter was the only social media platforms to respond when contacted by KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">\"We are committed to combating abuse motivated by hatred, prejudice or intolerance, particularly abuse that seeks to silence the voices of those who have been historically marginalized. For this reason, we prohibit behavior that targets individuals or groups with abuse based on their perceived membership in a protected category,\" a spokesperson wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">She added that the San Francisco-based company has \"expanded our rules against dehumanization to all protected categories as well including religion and caste.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The potential for real-world violence\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">Content moderation teams at all the major social media platforms are \"drinking from a firehose\" of hateful content, according to John Farmer, who directs the Miller Center for Community Protection and Resilience at Rutgers, part of the collaboration that produced the report. The platforms have proved fertile breeding grounds for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11746552/no-lone-shooter-how-anti-semitism-is-winning-new-converts-on-the-internet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">resurrecting and refreshing hate speech tropes\u003c/a> or memes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Farmer said recent real-world attacks demonstrate that\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11765841/how-hate-filled-online-groups-encourage-budding-psychopaths-to-kill-others\"> violence commonly follows hateful memes, hashtags and such\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The common thread here is the use and abuse of social media,” he said, adding that he hopes Hindu communities in California and beyond will reach out to other faith communities already working to protect themselves, like Jews and Sikhs, to help them establish “a clear chain of what happens if something does come down.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There’s somebody detailed to respond to press inquiries. There’s somebody identified as their liaison to law enforcement. The threats can be mitigated, even if they can’t be completely stopped,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11919374/report-anti-hindu-hate-speech-surges-on-social-media","authors":["251"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_25689","news_31040","news_24412","news_5660","news_21319","news_31316","news_29340","news_23266","news_2011","news_353","news_1089","news_29435","news_346"],"featImg":"news_11919389","label":"news_72"},"news_11913665":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11913665","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11913665","score":null,"sort":[1652450447000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"200000-documented-dreamers-are-literally-waiting-a-lifetime-for-a-green-card","title":"200,000 'Documented Dreamers' Are Literally Waiting a Lifetime for a Green Card","publishDate":1652450447,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report Magazine | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Here in the U.S., turning 21 is usually a reason to celebrate. But for 200,000 young people, adulthood catapults them into a bizarre legal limbo thanks to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/101st-congress/senate-bill/358\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Immigration Act of 1990\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s what happened to Eti Sinha and her twin sister, Eva. When they turned 21, they “aged out” of their parents’ family green card application.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's just the system that's just so messed up,\" said Eva.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's extremely difficult to process that, and keep having more and more obstacles in your way just to continue a life — in the only place I call home.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A family makes a bid for the American dream\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Sinha sisters were 7 years old when they moved with their mom from New Delhi, India, to San Francisco. They joined their dad, who was studying to transition out of his first career in the oil industry. Now he runs his own Silicon Valley consulting firm, and their mom is the director of admissions at a local university.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We kind of had a pretty typical American upbringing. We learned how to ride our bikes in Golden Gate Park. We loved eating all the Asian food in San Francisco and [the] Bay Area,\" recalled Eva.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In time for middle school, the family moved to the suburbs: Fremont, in the East Bay, where they did all the things you do growing up in Fremont.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We went to Centerville Middle School and Irvington High School,\" said Eti. \"We hiked Mission Peak. During lunch breaks, because it was an open campus, we would rush over to 7-Eleven, grab some taquitos and rush back to campus before class started. Eva was president of the French club. I was secretary of the French club.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912028\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 676px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11912028\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/EtiEva_InSF_2010.jpeg\" alt=\"Two girls pose in front of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco\" width=\"676\" height=\"491\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/EtiEva_InSF_2010.jpeg 676w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/EtiEva_InSF_2010-160x116.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 676px) 100vw, 676px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eti and Eva Sinha pose in front of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco in 2010. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Monica Sinha)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"We never really felt out of place,\" said Eva. \"We had a lot of other friends who were immigrants, you know? Second- and third-generation immigrants — and I've had quite a few friends who were immigrants themselves, who came [to the U.S.] in elementary school along with their parents.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there was a critical difference between them and most of their friends, a gulf that widened as they grew older: Eva and Eti’s presence in this country was conditional, set to expire when they turned 21.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As children, they had been dependents, riding on their father’s temporary visa status and, later, his family application for a green card, for the right to live and work in the U.S. more or less indefinitely. When they became adults, the federal government considered Eva and Eti foreign nationals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Eva Sinha, 'Documented Dreamer']'It's just the system that's just so messed up. It's extremely difficult to process that, and keep having more and more obstacles in your way just to continue a life — in the only place I call home.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The green card backlog\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Just after the family arrived in the U.S., a backlog started to develop in Washington, D.C., because of a bizarre quota system set in place back in 1991.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Green card applicants from every country get roughly the same percentage of green cards given out in any one year, whether they're from Albania or Zimbabwe, India or China. There are far more people from India and China applying, however. These two countries in particular have huge populations, and many highly educated individuals are attracted to the job market in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Starting in the early 2000s, year after year, \u003ca href=\"https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/immigration-wait-times-quotas-have-doubled-green-card-backlogs-are-long#current-wait-times-by-category\">their wait for green cards got longer and longer\u003c/a>, stretching for decades for some applicants. It only dawned on the Sinha sisters in high school that their green cards might not arrive in time for college.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Most of my friends had gotten their green card by the time they were in high school,\" said Eva.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s what their parents presumed would happen for them. That was a big part of the reason why their family moved here from New Delhi.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Our parents applied in 2011, when we were in middle school,\" said Eva. \"You know, they still don't have their green card today. So in high school, we realized, OK, as much as our experiences are similar to our peers, we don’t actually have the same amount of opportunity.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's because the lack of a green card meant that when they turned 21 while in college, during their senior year, they would suddenly switch from dependent to adult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11913668\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1784px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11913668\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2.jpg\" alt=\"Two teenage girls dressed in graduation gowns and holding flowers smile at the camera.\" width=\"1784\" height=\"1078\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2.jpg 1784w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2-800x483.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2-1020x616.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2-160x97.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2-1536x928.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1784px) 100vw, 1784px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eti and Eva Sinha graduated from Irvington High School in Fremont in 2014. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Monica Sinha)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Suddenly, they would become ineligible for everything from in-state tuition at a public school, to all kinds of grants and loans. Some people suggested Eva and Eti apply as undocumented, to take advantage of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, programs. But they\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> didn’t want to risk getting cut off from any pathway to citizenship.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked if the Sinha sisters blame their parents, Eva said no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They paid all their taxes,\" she said. \"They've maintained their [legal visa] statuses, made sure that, you know, that they're following all the rules. And, you know, once their turn in line comes up, they would get their green card. It’s just, there's a backlog.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Sinha sisters found a way forward. They both convinced their respective financial aid departments — at UC Santa Barbara and UC San Diego — to let them pay the lower, in-state tuition all the way through, even though they were both going to become “international” students in a few years. They got no financial aid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11912027,news_11885260,news_11707255\" label=\"Related Coverage\"]After they graduated — cum laude, both of them — Eti and Eva became experts in the U.S. visa system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eva currently works as a \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/evasinha/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">financial analyst\u003c/a> in San Francisco, and her employer sponsored her for an H-1B, the most common visa in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That H-1B is temporary, of course. It expires in 2026, unless her employer applies for a renewal, or a green card, or she returns to her “home country,” a country she’s visited but doesn’t consider home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are, like, as American as people who are American citizens,\" said Eva. \"We grew up here. We want to continue our lives here. We want to contribute to the American economy here. Everybody else perceives us as American as well, from our peers to my, like, managers, etcetera. I think we're American in every way but on paper.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11913669\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 749px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11913669\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_MissionPeak_2014-2.jpg\" alt=\"Two teenage girls stand at the top of a mountain as the sun sets behind them.\" width=\"749\" height=\"677\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_MissionPeak_2014-2.jpg 749w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_MissionPeak_2014-2-160x145.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 749px) 100vw, 749px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eti and Eva Sinha strike a pose at the summit of Mission Peak in Fremont. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Monica Sinha)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"It's so obvious to everyone but, for some reason, not the U.S. government,\" Eti added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eti searched for full-time work after college, but couldn't find a company willing to sponsor her. So she's now on an F-1, an academic visa. \"I am a Ph.D. student at Cornell University in New York, studying biomedical engineering,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Eti graduates, she’ll have to do the same thing as Eva: find an employer to sponsor her for an H-1B and then, hopefully, a green card. Essentially, they’re both hopscotching from one temporary visa to another, to stay in this country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s a name for this dilemma, for what Eti and Eva became: “Documented Dreamers.” Most of them are Asian, with roughly 70% being Indian, according to the advocacy group \u003ca href=\"https://www.improvethedream.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Improve the Dream\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a recent committee hearing in Sacramento, \u003ca href=\"https://www.senate.ca.gov/media/senate-education-committee-20220427/video\">Eva testified\u003c/a> on behalf of a bill put forward by State Sen. Maria Elena Durazo of Los Angeles. \"\u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB1160\">Senate Bill 1160\u003c/a> will allow dependent visa students that meet existing eligibility requirements to pay in-state tuition at California’s public colleges and universities,\" even after they turn 21, Durazo said at the hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This bill isn’t for the Sinha sisters. It’s for the students, the \"Documented Dreamers\" coming after them. Even though SB 1160 can’t address federal immigration law, it can make the cost of a college education in California a little more feasible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s good enough for Eva, today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Doing it piece by piece, at least we can get some movement going. Having one big legislation, which will definitely solve everything? In the way that our government is designed? It’s just going to take forever,\" Eva said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there are bills moving at the federal level that could help the more than 200,000 \"Documented Dreamers\" in the U.S. ahead of more comprehensive reform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Sen. Alex Padilla co-sponsored the \u003ca href=\"https://www.padilla.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/padilla-paul-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-protect-thousands-of-documented-dreamers/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">America's Children Act\u003c/a>. Backed by Improve the Dream, this legislation would allow dependent visa holders to maintain their status, even after they turn 21: no more fear of a wait time for a green card that lasts for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a recent hearing of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/removing-barriers-to-legal-migration-to-strengthen-our-communities-and-economy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship and Border Safety\u003c/a>, Padilla said, \"The term 'wait time,' for many, is actually a cruel misnomer. For applicants from some countries, the wait time is literally longer than any human's life expectancy. These aren’t wait times. These are de facto bans.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even though the America's Children Act is targeted to help a small group of people, and enjoys bipartisan support, the bill’s future is murky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These are people who grew up feeling like Americans, and they’re in the same position their parents are in, trying to go through a lottery to win an H-1B visa, to be able to get in a backlog for a green card that has no end,\" said David Bier, a research fellow with the Cato Institute who specializes in federal immigration policy. \"It’s not a good immigration system for anyone.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bier says lawmakers on the right and the left have doubts about signing off on even the most agreed-upon, partial solution. It’s just too iffy in an election year. Even the Biden administration is curiously silent about \"Documented Dreamers.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It just seems like they’re afraid of even bringing up the word 'immigration,' \" Bier said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so the Sinha sisters keep advocating for legal change, mentoring young people in the same situation, and trying to move forward with their lives, while holding on to their dream of a future here, in the only place they call home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"U.S. immigration law that went into effect in 1991 didn't anticipate a scenario where 200,000 children might 'age out' of their families' green card applications.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1652469824,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":45,"wordCount":1799},"headData":{"title":"200,000 'Documented Dreamers' Are Literally Waiting a Lifetime for a Green Card | KQED","description":"U.S. immigration law that went into effect in 1991 didn't anticipate a scenario where 200,000 children might 'age out' of their families' green card applications.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"200,000 'Documented Dreamers' Are Literally Waiting a Lifetime for a Green Card","datePublished":"2022-05-13T14:00:47.000Z","dateModified":"2022-05-13T19:23:44.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11913665 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11913665","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2022/05/13/200000-documented-dreamers-are-literally-waiting-a-lifetime-for-a-green-card/","disqusTitle":"200,000 'Documented Dreamers' Are Literally Waiting a Lifetime for a Green Card","source":"The California Report Magazine","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/californiareportmagazine","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-4[…]f-aaef00f5a073/be2d280a-fe8b-4d3d-9281-ae930182cf93/audio.mp3","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11913665/200000-documented-dreamers-are-literally-waiting-a-lifetime-for-a-green-card","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Here in the U.S., turning 21 is usually a reason to celebrate. But for 200,000 young people, adulthood catapults them into a bizarre legal limbo thanks to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/101st-congress/senate-bill/358\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Immigration Act of 1990\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s what happened to Eti Sinha and her twin sister, Eva. When they turned 21, they “aged out” of their parents’ family green card application.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's just the system that's just so messed up,\" said Eva.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's extremely difficult to process that, and keep having more and more obstacles in your way just to continue a life — in the only place I call home.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A family makes a bid for the American dream\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Sinha sisters were 7 years old when they moved with their mom from New Delhi, India, to San Francisco. They joined their dad, who was studying to transition out of his first career in the oil industry. Now he runs his own Silicon Valley consulting firm, and their mom is the director of admissions at a local university.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We kind of had a pretty typical American upbringing. We learned how to ride our bikes in Golden Gate Park. We loved eating all the Asian food in San Francisco and [the] Bay Area,\" recalled Eva.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In time for middle school, the family moved to the suburbs: Fremont, in the East Bay, where they did all the things you do growing up in Fremont.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We went to Centerville Middle School and Irvington High School,\" said Eti. \"We hiked Mission Peak. During lunch breaks, because it was an open campus, we would rush over to 7-Eleven, grab some taquitos and rush back to campus before class started. Eva was president of the French club. I was secretary of the French club.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11912028\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 676px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11912028\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/EtiEva_InSF_2010.jpeg\" alt=\"Two girls pose in front of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco\" width=\"676\" height=\"491\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/EtiEva_InSF_2010.jpeg 676w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/04/EtiEva_InSF_2010-160x116.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 676px) 100vw, 676px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eti and Eva Sinha pose in front of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco in 2010. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Monica Sinha)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"We never really felt out of place,\" said Eva. \"We had a lot of other friends who were immigrants, you know? Second- and third-generation immigrants — and I've had quite a few friends who were immigrants themselves, who came [to the U.S.] in elementary school along with their parents.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there was a critical difference between them and most of their friends, a gulf that widened as they grew older: Eva and Eti’s presence in this country was conditional, set to expire when they turned 21.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As children, they had been dependents, riding on their father’s temporary visa status and, later, his family application for a green card, for the right to live and work in the U.S. more or less indefinitely. When they became adults, the federal government considered Eva and Eti foreign nationals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'It's just the system that's just so messed up. It's extremely difficult to process that, and keep having more and more obstacles in your way just to continue a life — in the only place I call home.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","label":"citation=\"Eva Sinha, 'Documented Dreamer'"},"numeric":["citation=\"Eva","Sinha,","'Documented","Dreamer'"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The green card backlog\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Just after the family arrived in the U.S., a backlog started to develop in Washington, D.C., because of a bizarre quota system set in place back in 1991.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Green card applicants from every country get roughly the same percentage of green cards given out in any one year, whether they're from Albania or Zimbabwe, India or China. There are far more people from India and China applying, however. These two countries in particular have huge populations, and many highly educated individuals are attracted to the job market in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Starting in the early 2000s, year after year, \u003ca href=\"https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/immigration-wait-times-quotas-have-doubled-green-card-backlogs-are-long#current-wait-times-by-category\">their wait for green cards got longer and longer\u003c/a>, stretching for decades for some applicants. It only dawned on the Sinha sisters in high school that their green cards might not arrive in time for college.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Most of my friends had gotten their green card by the time they were in high school,\" said Eva.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s what their parents presumed would happen for them. That was a big part of the reason why their family moved here from New Delhi.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Our parents applied in 2011, when we were in middle school,\" said Eva. \"You know, they still don't have their green card today. So in high school, we realized, OK, as much as our experiences are similar to our peers, we don’t actually have the same amount of opportunity.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's because the lack of a green card meant that when they turned 21 while in college, during their senior year, they would suddenly switch from dependent to adult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11913668\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1784px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11913668\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2.jpg\" alt=\"Two teenage girls dressed in graduation gowns and holding flowers smile at the camera.\" width=\"1784\" height=\"1078\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2.jpg 1784w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2-800x483.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2-1020x616.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2-160x97.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_IrvingtonGrad_2014-2-1536x928.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1784px) 100vw, 1784px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eti and Eva Sinha graduated from Irvington High School in Fremont in 2014. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Monica Sinha)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Suddenly, they would become ineligible for everything from in-state tuition at a public school, to all kinds of grants and loans. Some people suggested Eva and Eti apply as undocumented, to take advantage of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, programs. But they\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> didn’t want to risk getting cut off from any pathway to citizenship.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked if the Sinha sisters blame their parents, Eva said no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They paid all their taxes,\" she said. \"They've maintained their [legal visa] statuses, made sure that, you know, that they're following all the rules. And, you know, once their turn in line comes up, they would get their green card. It’s just, there's a backlog.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Sinha sisters found a way forward. They both convinced their respective financial aid departments — at UC Santa Barbara and UC San Diego — to let them pay the lower, in-state tuition all the way through, even though they were both going to become “international” students in a few years. They got no financial aid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11912027,news_11885260,news_11707255","label":"Related Coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>After they graduated — cum laude, both of them — Eti and Eva became experts in the U.S. visa system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eva currently works as a \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/evasinha/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">financial analyst\u003c/a> in San Francisco, and her employer sponsored her for an H-1B, the most common visa in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That H-1B is temporary, of course. It expires in 2026, unless her employer applies for a renewal, or a green card, or she returns to her “home country,” a country she’s visited but doesn’t consider home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are, like, as American as people who are American citizens,\" said Eva. \"We grew up here. We want to continue our lives here. We want to contribute to the American economy here. Everybody else perceives us as American as well, from our peers to my, like, managers, etcetera. I think we're American in every way but on paper.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11913669\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 749px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11913669\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_MissionPeak_2014-2.jpg\" alt=\"Two teenage girls stand at the top of a mountain as the sun sets behind them.\" width=\"749\" height=\"677\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_MissionPeak_2014-2.jpg 749w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/05/EvaEti_MissionPeak_2014-2-160x145.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 749px) 100vw, 749px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eti and Eva Sinha strike a pose at the summit of Mission Peak in Fremont. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Monica Sinha)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"It's so obvious to everyone but, for some reason, not the U.S. government,\" Eti added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eti searched for full-time work after college, but couldn't find a company willing to sponsor her. So she's now on an F-1, an academic visa. \"I am a Ph.D. student at Cornell University in New York, studying biomedical engineering,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Eti graduates, she’ll have to do the same thing as Eva: find an employer to sponsor her for an H-1B and then, hopefully, a green card. Essentially, they’re both hopscotching from one temporary visa to another, to stay in this country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s a name for this dilemma, for what Eti and Eva became: “Documented Dreamers.” Most of them are Asian, with roughly 70% being Indian, according to the advocacy group \u003ca href=\"https://www.improvethedream.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Improve the Dream\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a recent committee hearing in Sacramento, \u003ca href=\"https://www.senate.ca.gov/media/senate-education-committee-20220427/video\">Eva testified\u003c/a> on behalf of a bill put forward by State Sen. Maria Elena Durazo of Los Angeles. \"\u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB1160\">Senate Bill 1160\u003c/a> will allow dependent visa students that meet existing eligibility requirements to pay in-state tuition at California’s public colleges and universities,\" even after they turn 21, Durazo said at the hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This bill isn’t for the Sinha sisters. It’s for the students, the \"Documented Dreamers\" coming after them. Even though SB 1160 can’t address federal immigration law, it can make the cost of a college education in California a little more feasible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s good enough for Eva, today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Doing it piece by piece, at least we can get some movement going. Having one big legislation, which will definitely solve everything? In the way that our government is designed? It’s just going to take forever,\" Eva said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there are bills moving at the federal level that could help the more than 200,000 \"Documented Dreamers\" in the U.S. ahead of more comprehensive reform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Sen. Alex Padilla co-sponsored the \u003ca href=\"https://www.padilla.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/padilla-paul-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-protect-thousands-of-documented-dreamers/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">America's Children Act\u003c/a>. Backed by Improve the Dream, this legislation would allow dependent visa holders to maintain their status, even after they turn 21: no more fear of a wait time for a green card that lasts for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a recent hearing of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/removing-barriers-to-legal-migration-to-strengthen-our-communities-and-economy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship and Border Safety\u003c/a>, Padilla said, \"The term 'wait time,' for many, is actually a cruel misnomer. For applicants from some countries, the wait time is literally longer than any human's life expectancy. These aren’t wait times. These are de facto bans.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even though the America's Children Act is targeted to help a small group of people, and enjoys bipartisan support, the bill’s future is murky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These are people who grew up feeling like Americans, and they’re in the same position their parents are in, trying to go through a lottery to win an H-1B visa, to be able to get in a backlog for a green card that has no end,\" said David Bier, a research fellow with the Cato Institute who specializes in federal immigration policy. \"It’s not a good immigration system for anyone.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bier says lawmakers on the right and the left have doubts about signing off on even the most agreed-upon, partial solution. It’s just too iffy in an election year. Even the Biden administration is curiously silent about \"Documented Dreamers.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It just seems like they’re afraid of even bringing up the word 'immigration,' \" Bier said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so the Sinha sisters keep advocating for legal change, mentoring young people in the same situation, and trying to move forward with their lives, while holding on to their dream of a future here, in the only place they call home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11913665/200000-documented-dreamers-are-literally-waiting-a-lifetime-for-a-green-card","authors":["251"],"programs":["news_26731"],"categories":["news_1169","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_19112","news_18538","news_31085","news_20415","news_27626","news_20829","news_28145","news_20202","news_18436","news_29340","news_17968","news_2011","news_353"],"featImg":"news_11913671","label":"source_news_11913665"},"news_11909366":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11909366","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11909366","score":null,"sort":[1648254140000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"rep-adam-schiff-state-sen-sydney-kamlager-this-week-in-california-news","title":"Rep. Adam Schiff | State Sen. Sydney Kamlager | This Week in California News","publishDate":1648254140,"format":"video","headTitle":"KQED Newsroom | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":7052,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cb>U.S. Response to War in Ukraine\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This week, President Joe Biden traveled to Europe for emergency summits with other world leaders. He announced plans to ship liquified natural gas to Europe to reduce dependence on Russian oil and gas as well as more sanctions. We get reaction from California Congressmember Adam Schiff, D-Burbank, on how the U.S. is responding to the conflict in Ukraine.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guest:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>California Cryptocurrency Bill\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What if you could pay your state taxes using digital money? Colorado Gov. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jared Polis says his state will begin to accept cryptocurrency payments for state taxes and fees as early as this summer. Here\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in the Golden State\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">State Sen. Sydney Kamlager has introduced a bill that aims to do something similar. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guest:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">State Sen. Sydney Kamlager, D-Los Angeles\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>This Week in California News and Politics\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This week, Gov. Gavin Newsom proposed an $11 billion package to offset the burden of gas prices that have been rising over the past several weeks. His plan would send up to two $400 payments to registered vehicle owners and includes grants and reduced fares for public transit users. We also discuss international attempts to regulate high-tech companies, and the Los Angeles mayor's race.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guests:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeremy B. 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We get reaction from California Congressmember Adam Schiff, D-Burbank, on how the U.S. is responding to the conflict in Ukraine.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guest:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>California Cryptocurrency Bill\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What if you could pay your state taxes using digital money? Colorado Gov. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jared Polis says his state will begin to accept cryptocurrency payments for state taxes and fees as early as this summer. Here\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in the Golden State\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">State Sen. 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There are now roughly 20,000 people of Ukrainian descent living in the Bay Area, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://san-francisco.mfa.gov.ua/en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ukrainian consulate in San Francisco\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The connections between the two regions are not simply economic. Strong cultural affinities have developed. People move between the Bay Area and Ukraine and work together on projects. They get married to each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My wife is Ukrainian,\" said John Sung Kim, CEO of the Bay Area-based outsourcing company \u003ca href=\"https://jetbridge.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">JetBridge\u003c/a>. He’s married to a Ukrainian woman, with in-laws in one of the disputed regions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They told him tanks have arrived in their town \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/live-updates/ukraine-russia-invasion-putin\">as Russia's long-feared assault on Ukraine began Thursday\u003c/a>, and they've relocated to their basement. \"So we need evacuation plans for them,\" Kim said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>JetBridge employs more than 20 people in Ukraine, and the company has been working on contingency plans to get them out: to western Ukraine, to Poland, or even to the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If we have to evacuate them, we also have to evacuate their families. And so this could be 100 people,\" Kim said. But it's an open question when that might happen. \"Airports have been bombed and traffic is a no go. People are stuck.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then there’s the JetBridge team in Belarus, dependent, like their co-workers in Ukraine, on international money transfers for their salaries. Kim fears financial sanctions on Russia could be extended to include Belarus, a Russian ally. Should that happen, it could become difficult to pay his employees there. \"So now we have questions, like, do we need to extract people out of Belarus?\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11906424\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11906424\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag.jpg\" alt=\"cyclist carrying bright yellow and blue ukrainian flag rides under series of metal hoops under a blue sky\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1416\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag-800x590.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag-1020x752.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag-1536x1133.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A bicyclist waves the Ukrainian flag over his head as he rides through the Sonic Runway, an art installation outside San Jose City Hall. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While many companies big and small employ Ukrainians here or in Ukraine, those contacted by KQED declined to identify specific employees out of concern for their safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>JustAnswer, a San Francisco-based tech company that employs 252 people in Ukraine, \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/tech/article/How-Russia-invading-Ukraine-affects-the-workforce-16938923.php\">also has been working on contingency plans to keep its workers safe, make sure they get paid — and handle workers who want to serve in Ukraine's military\u003c/a>, according to The San Francisco Chronicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google, Oracle, Snap, Grammarly and Ring also employ workers in Ukraine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A spokesperson for Ring said the company is in close contact with the people it does business with in Ukraine, and that “we’re of course monitoring their well-being with great care.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is not the first time that our team members in Ukraine have experienced heightened uncertainty,\" said a spokesperson for Grammarly, \u003ca href=\"https://gbozhok.medium.com/grammarly-the-story-of-how-three-ukrainians-created-the-most-popular-online-grammar-checker-5c3f20a2f66a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a company founded by Ukrainians\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Grammarly also supports all of our team members, including those who call Ukraine home, with various mental health benefits and frequent internal communication updates that aim to provide clarity in a time of uncertainty,\" the spokesperson said. \"Our contingency plans also account for ensuring Grammarly’s services will not be disrupted. This includes backup communication methods and temporary transfer of business-critical responsibilities to team members outside of Ukraine to ensure our Ukraine-based team members can focus on the immediate safety of themselves and their families.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2014, after Russia invaded and annexed Crimea, the nonprofit humanitarian aid organization \u003ca href=\"https://novaukraine.org/\">Nova Ukraine\u003c/a> was born in the Bay Area. It's one of several groups raising funds for causes ranging from helping underserved children in Ukraine with educational aid, to COVID relief, to a letter-writing campaign directed at U.S. lawmakers regarding the Russian invasion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I have fewer connections now than before,\" said Igor Markov, a research scientist for a prominent Silicon Valley company who volunteers for Nova Ukraine in his spare time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He came to the U.S. in 1993 to study mathematics in graduate school. He estimates that a third of his high school class from Kyiv now lives in the U.S., reflecting how enmeshed the two countries have become in the last three decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Putin and his subservient government and parliament — they have gone way too far,\" Markov said. \"It's not a matter of Russians versus Ukrainians at all. It's a matter of Putin versus the world.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Longstanding ties between Ukraine and the Bay Area's tech industry mean numerous companies have been working on contingency plans to make sure workers and their families are safe.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1646091608,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":19,"wordCount":724},"headData":{"title":"Why Russia's Invasion of Ukraine Is Personal for Silicon Valley | KQED","description":"Longstanding ties between Ukraine and the Bay Area's tech industry mean numerous companies have been working on contingency plans to make sure workers and their families are safe.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Why Russia's Invasion of Ukraine Is Personal for Silicon Valley","datePublished":"2022-02-25T02:09:20.000Z","dateModified":"2022-02-28T23:40:08.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11906302 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11906302","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2022/02/24/why-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-is-personal-for-silicon-valley/","disqusTitle":"Why Russia's Invasion of Ukraine Is Personal for Silicon Valley","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-4[…]f-aaef00f5a073/66951e48-eec7-4213-8daa-ae46010af317/audio.mp3","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11906302/why-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-is-personal-for-silicon-valley","audioDuration":187000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>For years, Ukraine has been one of Silicon Valley’s favorite offshore outposts for educated, cheap IT labor. There are now roughly 20,000 people of Ukrainian descent living in the Bay Area, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://san-francisco.mfa.gov.ua/en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ukrainian consulate in San Francisco\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The connections between the two regions are not simply economic. Strong cultural affinities have developed. People move between the Bay Area and Ukraine and work together on projects. They get married to each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My wife is Ukrainian,\" said John Sung Kim, CEO of the Bay Area-based outsourcing company \u003ca href=\"https://jetbridge.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">JetBridge\u003c/a>. He’s married to a Ukrainian woman, with in-laws in one of the disputed regions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They told him tanks have arrived in their town \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/live-updates/ukraine-russia-invasion-putin\">as Russia's long-feared assault on Ukraine began Thursday\u003c/a>, and they've relocated to their basement. \"So we need evacuation plans for them,\" Kim said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>JetBridge employs more than 20 people in Ukraine, and the company has been working on contingency plans to get them out: to western Ukraine, to Poland, or even to the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If we have to evacuate them, we also have to evacuate their families. And so this could be 100 people,\" Kim said. But it's an open question when that might happen. \"Airports have been bombed and traffic is a no go. People are stuck.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then there’s the JetBridge team in Belarus, dependent, like their co-workers in Ukraine, on international money transfers for their salaries. Kim fears financial sanctions on Russia could be extended to include Belarus, a Russian ally. Should that happen, it could become difficult to pay his employees there. \"So now we have questions, like, do we need to extract people out of Belarus?\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11906424\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11906424\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag.jpg\" alt=\"cyclist carrying bright yellow and blue ukrainian flag rides under series of metal hoops under a blue sky\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1416\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag-800x590.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag-1020x752.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/CyclistUkraineFlag-1536x1133.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A bicyclist waves the Ukrainian flag over his head as he rides through the Sonic Runway, an art installation outside San Jose City Hall. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While many companies big and small employ Ukrainians here or in Ukraine, those contacted by KQED declined to identify specific employees out of concern for their safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>JustAnswer, a San Francisco-based tech company that employs 252 people in Ukraine, \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/tech/article/How-Russia-invading-Ukraine-affects-the-workforce-16938923.php\">also has been working on contingency plans to keep its workers safe, make sure they get paid — and handle workers who want to serve in Ukraine's military\u003c/a>, according to The San Francisco Chronicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google, Oracle, Snap, Grammarly and Ring also employ workers in Ukraine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A spokesperson for Ring said the company is in close contact with the people it does business with in Ukraine, and that “we’re of course monitoring their well-being with great care.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is not the first time that our team members in Ukraine have experienced heightened uncertainty,\" said a spokesperson for Grammarly, \u003ca href=\"https://gbozhok.medium.com/grammarly-the-story-of-how-three-ukrainians-created-the-most-popular-online-grammar-checker-5c3f20a2f66a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a company founded by Ukrainians\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Grammarly also supports all of our team members, including those who call Ukraine home, with various mental health benefits and frequent internal communication updates that aim to provide clarity in a time of uncertainty,\" the spokesperson said. \"Our contingency plans also account for ensuring Grammarly’s services will not be disrupted. This includes backup communication methods and temporary transfer of business-critical responsibilities to team members outside of Ukraine to ensure our Ukraine-based team members can focus on the immediate safety of themselves and their families.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2014, after Russia invaded and annexed Crimea, the nonprofit humanitarian aid organization \u003ca href=\"https://novaukraine.org/\">Nova Ukraine\u003c/a> was born in the Bay Area. It's one of several groups raising funds for causes ranging from helping underserved children in Ukraine with educational aid, to COVID relief, to a letter-writing campaign directed at U.S. lawmakers regarding the Russian invasion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I have fewer connections now than before,\" said Igor Markov, a research scientist for a prominent Silicon Valley company who volunteers for Nova Ukraine in his spare time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He came to the U.S. in 1993 to study mathematics in graduate school. He estimates that a third of his high school class from Kyiv now lives in the U.S., reflecting how enmeshed the two countries have become in the last three decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Putin and his subservient government and parliament — they have gone way too far,\" Markov said. \"It's not a matter of Russians versus Ukrainians at all. It's a matter of Putin versus the world.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11906302/why-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-is-personal-for-silicon-valley","authors":["251"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_1758","news_1169","news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_30712","news_93","news_30708","news_30711","news_285","news_2011","news_20279","news_353","news_30144","news_26723"],"featImg":"news_11906434","label":"news_72"},"news_11905230":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11905230","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11905230","score":null,"sort":[1645141165000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"do-federal-lawmakers-have-the-stomach-to-rein-in-big-tech","title":"Do Federal Lawmakers Have the Stomach to Rein in Big Tech?","publishDate":1645141165,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>More than a dozen antitrust bills targeting Big Tech are currently in play in the nation’s capital, and Silicon Valley has mounted a full-court press to kill or soften the legislative onslaught.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bills could make it more difficult for large tech companies to, among other things, acquire smaller companies, use their platforms to unduly boost their own products, and wield their huge cash stockpiles to \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/666274605/how-big-is-amazon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">dominate multiple, additional industries\u003c/a>.[aside postID=\"news_11889347\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/RS51554_GettyImages-1235407516-qut.jpg\"]The main companies in the sights of federal lawmakers include Amazon, Apple, Google and Meta, the latter three of which are headquartered in the Bay Area. All four have become multibillion-dollar giants of advertising through buying and selling consumer data, while also variously dominating other industries like retail, apps and entertainment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Federal lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have historically taken a relatively light touch toward regulating the technology industry. But that \u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/27/monopoly-antitrust-new-rules-tech-525161\">hands-off approach has recently shifted\u003c/a> among a growing number of Democrats, and even some Republicans, as the power and size of these companies has grown exponentially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You have companies like Google that have 90% control over search engines,\" Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minnesota, \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/amyklobuchar/videos/1985625218247197/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">told CNN\u003c/a> last year. \"What I'm proposing is, make sure [federal agencies like the Federal Trade Commission] are able to take on trillion-dollar companies like Facebook and Google. They can't do it with Band-Aids and duct tape.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She added, \"We must have laws that are as sophisticated as the companies we're dealing with.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In that vein, the slate of proposed legislation tackles a wide array of gray areas in the law to provide federal regulators with the resources — monetary and conceptual — to go after large companies. Here's a small sampling of the bills:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3816\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">HR 3816\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/2992\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">S 2992\u003c/a>: \u003cstrong>The American Choice and Innovation Online Act\u003c/strong> would bar platforms like Apple's App Store or Amazon's Marketplace from \"self-preferencing,\" or giving their own products an unfair advantage over those of their competitors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3843?q=%7B%22search%22:%5B%223843%22,%223843%22%5D%7D&s=3&r=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">HR 3843\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/228?q=%7B%22search%22:%5B%22Merger+Filing+Fee+Modernization+Act%22,%22Merger%22,%22Filing%22,%22Fee%22,%22Modernization%22,%22Act%22%5D%7D&s=6&r=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">S 228\u003c/a>: \u003cstrong>The Merger Filing Fee Modernization Act of 2021\u003c/strong> would increase the merger fees regulators collect from companies and use the additional amounts to fund aggressive enforcement of antitrust laws by the U.S. Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/3608?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Social+Media+NUDGE+Act%22%2C%22Social%22%2C%22Media%22%2C%22NUDGE%22%2C%22Act%22%5D%7D&s=1&r=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">S 3608\u003c/a>: \u003cstrong>The Social Media NUDGE Act\u003c/strong> would direct the National Science Foundation and the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine to study \"content neutral\" ways to address the algorithmic amplification of harmful content.[aside postID=\"forum_2010101882161\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/43/2016/11/facebook-screen.jpg\"]But despite high-drama hearings from whistleblowers like former Facebook lead product manager \u003ca href=\"https://www.franceshaugen.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Frances Haugen\u003c/a>, most of these bills have yet to make it out of their respective committees. It's entirely unclear how many will ever get a floor vote in the House or Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Klobuchar, among the handful of lawmakers leading the antitrust charge, has acknowledged that the odds are daunting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are up against a lot. ... The tech companies have 2,500 lobbyists and probably 10,000 lawyers,\" she said at a hearing of the Senate Judiciary \u003ca href=\"https://www.c-span.org/video/?516757-1/senate-hearing-impact-corporate-monopolies-innovation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Subcommittee on Competition Policy, Antitrust, and Consumer Rights\u003c/a> last December.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And most analysts agree that if Republicans regain the majority in Congress after this year's midterm elections, it’s game over for the biggest antitrust effort in generations.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Strong pushback\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Tech industry proponents have presented a varied, and in some cases compelling, set of arguments against these legislative efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Berin Szóka, president of TechFreedom, a \u003ca href=\"https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/trade_association_and_third_party_groups.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">tech-funded\u003c/a> think tank in Washington, D.C., argues that the bills are rushed and poorly written. He decries the lack of traditional legislative hearings and markups before floor debate, even while acknowledging this practice has fallen out of vogue in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are legislating the way that that cartoon shows the railroad bridge being built out over the canyon as the train is going — except we don’t know what the train looks like or where it's going,\" he said.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Jennifer King, privacy and data policy fellow, Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence\"]'We now have a legislative structure that's just as dependent on those data practices that the commercial structure is dependent on: behavioral targeting and marketing practices that are really at issue in all these cases.'[/pullquote]Efforts by Democrats, like Klobuchar, to win support from key Republicans, he says, have resulted in bills full of ticking time bombs that could explode on Democrats and their allies the next time Republicans regain control of the White House.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For instance, Szóka argues, the same bill that would prevent tech titans from discriminating against competitors might also prevent them from removing companies from their app stores that have violated content rules, like Parler, a social media platform that has become a safe harbor for right-wing conspiracy theorists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's going to be easy for these sites that cater to extremists to sue, to harass mainstream services, to rifle through emails, to depose executives,\" said Szóka.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Similar concerns have been expressed by many in California's congressional delegation, suggesting that Democrats could balk at supporting some of the bills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla are among a large group of California Democrats who have criticized elements of the bills, mirroring some of the arguments made by tech-funded think tanks. Reps. Lou Correa, D-East LA; Ted Lieu, D-Torrance; Eric Swalwell, D-Castro Valley; Ro Khanna, D-Fremont; and Zoe Lofgren, D-San Jose also have raised concerns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think they spent more time on the hearing than they did in writing the proposed legislation. Because it’s not well crafted and it was done in a hurry,\" Lofgren recently lamented about the American Choice and Innovation Online Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an interview last month with Julia Angwin of The Markup, \u003ca href=\"https://www.c-span.org/video/?517286-1/after-words-representative-ro-khanna\">Rep. Khanna said breakups are certainly justified\u003c/a> in some instances. \"On Facebook, for example, where they've acquired Instagram and WhatsApp, you should have an unraveling of that company. I think you want to have a ban on mergers that are acquiring competitors.\"[aside postID=\"news_11888891\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-461843598-scaled.jpg\"]But he cautioned about being \"overly restrictive on all mergers,\" noting that mergers and acquisitions are a basic element of the U.S. economy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Washington Post recently reported that \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/01/21/tech-lobbying-in-washington/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">just seven large tech companies spent nearly $70 million\u003c/a> lobbying the U.S. government in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are genuinely concerned that they could break a wide range of popular services we offer to our users, all the work we do to make our products safe, private and secure, and in some cases can hurt American competitiveness by disadvantaging solely U.S. companies,\" Google CEO Sundar Pichai said of the current bills during a recent earnings call.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Lofgren and others who have voiced concerns with the current bills \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/03/tech-giants-are-doling-out-political-donations-antitrust-skeptics-congress/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">continue to take money\u003c/a> from the likes of Amazon, Google, Meta and Microsoft, but say that doesn't influence their position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lofgren told KQED, \"That’s obviously baloney, and if that were the case, Anna [Eshoo] and I wouldn’t have introduced our privacy bill, which would require a huge change in the business model of any company that relies on the data of its users.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6027/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Online+Privacy+Act%22%2C%22Online%22%2C%22Privacy%22%2C%22Act%22%5D%7D&r=1&s=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Online Privacy Act\u003c/a> Lofgren reintroduced with fellow Silicon Valley Rep. Anna Eshoo is considered a serious threat to the personal data trading model that’s become the bread and butter for mega conglomerates. The legislation would require companies to protect users’ data, as well as establish a new federal agency to enforce privacy protections, and strengthen enforcement of privacy law violations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jennifer King, who follows data and privacy for the \u003ca href=\"http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/about/people/jen-king\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence\u003c/a>, is not holding her breath for this Congress to act on any kind of revolutionary reform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One big reason why: Both political parties, she notes, have grown quite fond of using targeted advertising themselves. \"We now have a legislative structure that’s just as dependent on those data practices that the commercial structure is dependent on: behavioral targeting and marketing practices that are really at issue in all these cases,\" King said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The one thing most lawmakers do seem to agree on is the need for some kind of new legislation, if only to bolster funding for federal regulators like those at the Federal Trade Commission. But what exactly that should look like is where the consensus falls apart.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"More than a dozen antitrust bills targeting Big Tech are in play in the nation's capital right now, and Silicon Valley has mounted a full-court press to kill or soften the legislative attack.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1645142005,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":31,"wordCount":1466},"headData":{"title":"Do Federal Lawmakers Have the Stomach to Rein in Big Tech? | KQED","description":"More than a dozen antitrust bills targeting Big Tech are in play in the nation's capital right now, and Silicon Valley has mounted a full-court press to kill or soften the legislative attack.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Do Federal Lawmakers Have the Stomach to Rein in Big Tech?","datePublished":"2022-02-17T23:39:25.000Z","dateModified":"2022-02-17T23:53:25.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11905230 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11905230","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2022/02/17/do-federal-lawmakers-have-the-stomach-to-rein-in-big-tech/","disqusTitle":"Do Federal Lawmakers Have the Stomach to Rein in Big Tech?","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-4[…]f-aaef00f5a073/86b2144c-161e-43c4-9c10-ae3d01176691/audio.mp3","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11905230/do-federal-lawmakers-have-the-stomach-to-rein-in-big-tech","audioDuration":260000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>More than a dozen antitrust bills targeting Big Tech are currently in play in the nation’s capital, and Silicon Valley has mounted a full-court press to kill or soften the legislative onslaught.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bills could make it more difficult for large tech companies to, among other things, acquire smaller companies, use their platforms to unduly boost their own products, and wield their huge cash stockpiles to \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/666274605/how-big-is-amazon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">dominate multiple, additional industries\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11889347","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/RS51554_GettyImages-1235407516-qut.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The main companies in the sights of federal lawmakers include Amazon, Apple, Google and Meta, the latter three of which are headquartered in the Bay Area. All four have become multibillion-dollar giants of advertising through buying and selling consumer data, while also variously dominating other industries like retail, apps and entertainment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Federal lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have historically taken a relatively light touch toward regulating the technology industry. But that \u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/27/monopoly-antitrust-new-rules-tech-525161\">hands-off approach has recently shifted\u003c/a> among a growing number of Democrats, and even some Republicans, as the power and size of these companies has grown exponentially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You have companies like Google that have 90% control over search engines,\" Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minnesota, \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/amyklobuchar/videos/1985625218247197/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">told CNN\u003c/a> last year. \"What I'm proposing is, make sure [federal agencies like the Federal Trade Commission] are able to take on trillion-dollar companies like Facebook and Google. They can't do it with Band-Aids and duct tape.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She added, \"We must have laws that are as sophisticated as the companies we're dealing with.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In that vein, the slate of proposed legislation tackles a wide array of gray areas in the law to provide federal regulators with the resources — monetary and conceptual — to go after large companies. Here's a small sampling of the bills:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3816\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">HR 3816\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/2992\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">S 2992\u003c/a>: \u003cstrong>The American Choice and Innovation Online Act\u003c/strong> would bar platforms like Apple's App Store or Amazon's Marketplace from \"self-preferencing,\" or giving their own products an unfair advantage over those of their competitors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3843?q=%7B%22search%22:%5B%223843%22,%223843%22%5D%7D&s=3&r=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">HR 3843\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/228?q=%7B%22search%22:%5B%22Merger+Filing+Fee+Modernization+Act%22,%22Merger%22,%22Filing%22,%22Fee%22,%22Modernization%22,%22Act%22%5D%7D&s=6&r=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">S 228\u003c/a>: \u003cstrong>The Merger Filing Fee Modernization Act of 2021\u003c/strong> would increase the merger fees regulators collect from companies and use the additional amounts to fund aggressive enforcement of antitrust laws by the U.S. Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/3608?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Social+Media+NUDGE+Act%22%2C%22Social%22%2C%22Media%22%2C%22NUDGE%22%2C%22Act%22%5D%7D&s=1&r=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">S 3608\u003c/a>: \u003cstrong>The Social Media NUDGE Act\u003c/strong> would direct the National Science Foundation and the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine to study \"content neutral\" ways to address the algorithmic amplification of harmful content.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"forum_2010101882161","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/43/2016/11/facebook-screen.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>But despite high-drama hearings from whistleblowers like former Facebook lead product manager \u003ca href=\"https://www.franceshaugen.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Frances Haugen\u003c/a>, most of these bills have yet to make it out of their respective committees. It's entirely unclear how many will ever get a floor vote in the House or Senate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Klobuchar, among the handful of lawmakers leading the antitrust charge, has acknowledged that the odds are daunting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are up against a lot. ... The tech companies have 2,500 lobbyists and probably 10,000 lawyers,\" she said at a hearing of the Senate Judiciary \u003ca href=\"https://www.c-span.org/video/?516757-1/senate-hearing-impact-corporate-monopolies-innovation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Subcommittee on Competition Policy, Antitrust, and Consumer Rights\u003c/a> last December.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And most analysts agree that if Republicans regain the majority in Congress after this year's midterm elections, it’s game over for the biggest antitrust effort in generations.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Strong pushback\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Tech industry proponents have presented a varied, and in some cases compelling, set of arguments against these legislative efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Berin Szóka, president of TechFreedom, a \u003ca href=\"https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/trade_association_and_third_party_groups.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">tech-funded\u003c/a> think tank in Washington, D.C., argues that the bills are rushed and poorly written. He decries the lack of traditional legislative hearings and markups before floor debate, even while acknowledging this practice has fallen out of vogue in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are legislating the way that that cartoon shows the railroad bridge being built out over the canyon as the train is going — except we don’t know what the train looks like or where it's going,\" he said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'We now have a legislative structure that's just as dependent on those data practices that the commercial structure is dependent on: behavioral targeting and marketing practices that are really at issue in all these cases.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Jennifer King, privacy and data policy fellow, Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Efforts by Democrats, like Klobuchar, to win support from key Republicans, he says, have resulted in bills full of ticking time bombs that could explode on Democrats and their allies the next time Republicans regain control of the White House.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For instance, Szóka argues, the same bill that would prevent tech titans from discriminating against competitors might also prevent them from removing companies from their app stores that have violated content rules, like Parler, a social media platform that has become a safe harbor for right-wing conspiracy theorists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's going to be easy for these sites that cater to extremists to sue, to harass mainstream services, to rifle through emails, to depose executives,\" said Szóka.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Similar concerns have been expressed by many in California's congressional delegation, suggesting that Democrats could balk at supporting some of the bills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla are among a large group of California Democrats who have criticized elements of the bills, mirroring some of the arguments made by tech-funded think tanks. Reps. Lou Correa, D-East LA; Ted Lieu, D-Torrance; Eric Swalwell, D-Castro Valley; Ro Khanna, D-Fremont; and Zoe Lofgren, D-San Jose also have raised concerns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think they spent more time on the hearing than they did in writing the proposed legislation. Because it’s not well crafted and it was done in a hurry,\" Lofgren recently lamented about the American Choice and Innovation Online Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an interview last month with Julia Angwin of The Markup, \u003ca href=\"https://www.c-span.org/video/?517286-1/after-words-representative-ro-khanna\">Rep. Khanna said breakups are certainly justified\u003c/a> in some instances. \"On Facebook, for example, where they've acquired Instagram and WhatsApp, you should have an unraveling of that company. I think you want to have a ban on mergers that are acquiring competitors.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11888891","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-461843598-scaled.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>But he cautioned about being \"overly restrictive on all mergers,\" noting that mergers and acquisitions are a basic element of the U.S. economy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Washington Post recently reported that \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/01/21/tech-lobbying-in-washington/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">just seven large tech companies spent nearly $70 million\u003c/a> lobbying the U.S. government in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are genuinely concerned that they could break a wide range of popular services we offer to our users, all the work we do to make our products safe, private and secure, and in some cases can hurt American competitiveness by disadvantaging solely U.S. companies,\" Google CEO Sundar Pichai said of the current bills during a recent earnings call.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Lofgren and others who have voiced concerns with the current bills \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/03/tech-giants-are-doling-out-political-donations-antitrust-skeptics-congress/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">continue to take money\u003c/a> from the likes of Amazon, Google, Meta and Microsoft, but say that doesn't influence their position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lofgren told KQED, \"That’s obviously baloney, and if that were the case, Anna [Eshoo] and I wouldn’t have introduced our privacy bill, which would require a huge change in the business model of any company that relies on the data of its users.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6027/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Online+Privacy+Act%22%2C%22Online%22%2C%22Privacy%22%2C%22Act%22%5D%7D&r=1&s=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Online Privacy Act\u003c/a> Lofgren reintroduced with fellow Silicon Valley Rep. Anna Eshoo is considered a serious threat to the personal data trading model that’s become the bread and butter for mega conglomerates. The legislation would require companies to protect users’ data, as well as establish a new federal agency to enforce privacy protections, and strengthen enforcement of privacy law violations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jennifer King, who follows data and privacy for the \u003ca href=\"http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/about/people/jen-king\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence\u003c/a>, is not holding her breath for this Congress to act on any kind of revolutionary reform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One big reason why: Both political parties, she notes, have grown quite fond of using targeted advertising themselves. \"We now have a legislative structure that’s just as dependent on those data practices that the commercial structure is dependent on: behavioral targeting and marketing practices that are really at issue in all these cases,\" King said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The one thing most lawmakers do seem to agree on is the need for some kind of new legislation, if only to bolster funding for federal regulators like those at the Federal Trade Commission. 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