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Politicians Who Support Anti-Piracy Bills","publishDate":1327423612,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>from \u003ca href=\"http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/hollywood-money-flows-calif-politicians-who-support-anti-piracy-bills-14591\">\u003cstrong>California Watch\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hollywood is threatening politicians with one thing they hold very dear: campaign cash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As anti-piracy legislation stalled in Congress last week, the movie industry's top lobbyist, former U.S. Sen. Chris Dodd, warned Democrats not to count on Hollywood money if they turn their backs on the industry's legislative priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">\n\u003cp>\"Those who count on quote 'Hollywood' for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their job is at stake. Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>- Chris Dodd, MPAA Chairman and CEO\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Among the biggest recipients of Hollywood money are Californian members of Congress who remain supportive of the controversial anti-piracy bills. Eight Californians in the House of Representatives, as well as Democratic U.S. Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, co-sponsored the bills, representing more co-sponsors than from any other state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Boxer was the top Senate recipient of campaign contributions from the movie production industry over the last six years, picking up nearly $413,000, according todata compiled by MapLight.org and the Center for Responsive Politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Rep. Howard Berman, whose Los Angeles district includes the famed Hollywood sign, is the industry's top beneficiary in the House, picking up $106,500 in the last two years of reported contributions. Berman was an early co-sponsor of the Stop Online Piracy Act that the Motion Picture Association of America has been pushing. \u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The movie industry and other supporters maintain that the bills, known as \u003ca href=\"http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:H.R.3261:\" target=\"_blank\">SOPA\u003c/a> in the House and \u003ca href=\"http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s968rs/pdf/BILLS-112s968rs.pdf%22\" target=\"_blank\">PIPA [PDF]\u003c/a> in the Senate, are necessary to fight foreign websites that pirate American films and music. Opponents, including tech companies, claim the bills threaten freedom of expression on the Internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The debate pits two powerful California industries against each other, but one gives much more political money than the other. In the Senate, for example, MapLight.org \u003ca href=\"http://maplight.org/content/72917\" target=\"_blank\">found\u003c/a> that the entertainment industry gave $14 million in contributions over the last six years, compared with $2 million from Internet interest groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rare admission of the power of campaign contributions from Dodd, a former senator and past presidential candidate, puts a spotlight on the influence of money in this policy debate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Candidly, those who count on quote 'Hollywood' for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their job is at stake,\" Dodd told \u003ca href=\"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/19/exclusive-hollywood-lobbyist-threatens-to-cut-off-obama-2012-money-over-anti/\" target=\"_blank\">Fox News\u003c/a> last week. \"Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd, CEO of the movie industry association, added: \"I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats, which they have, don't make the false assumptions this year that because we did it in years past, we will do it this year.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Howard Gantman, spokesman for the association, said in an e-mail that Dodd \"was merely making the obvious point that people support politicians whose views coincide with their own. When politicians take positions that people disagree with, those people tend not to support those politicians.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meredith McGehee, policy director of the Washington-based Campaign Legal Center, said Dodd's statement \"reveals how much the current system is legalized bribery.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It’s notable that it’s coming from someone who was so steeped in the system,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Art Brodsky, spokesman for Public Knowledge, an advocacy group that fought the anti-piracy bills, said campaign contributions have indeed factored into the policy battle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You’d have to be totally naive not to think so,\" he said. \"Look at the contributions and look where people were on the issue.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Californian co-sponsors of anti-piracy legislation in the House include Los Angeles-area Democrats Karen Bass, who received nearly $30,000 from the movie industry; Brad Sherman, who got $23,000; and Adam Schiff, who picked up about $19,000. Another co-sponsor, Rep. Mary Bono Mack, a Palm Springs Republican, received almost $22,000 over two years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Technology companies and Internet activists succeeded in stalling the bills despite the fact that Hollywood gives more money. But that doesn't mean that campaign cash didn't matter, said McGehee, because the fight isn't over. \"We're only in round one,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein, who garnered about $146,000 over six years from movie production interests, is working toward compromise legislation. In a statement, Feinstein said: \"The only way we can resolve the differences on this bill is by the key CEOs sitting down together.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1398475439,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":821},"headData":{"title":"Hollywood Money Flows to Calif. Politicians Who Support Anti-Piracy Bills | KQED","description":"from California Watch Hollywood is threatening politicians with one thing they hold very dear: campaign cash. As anti-piracy legislation stalled in Congress last week, the movie industry's top lobbyist, former U.S. Sen. Chris Dodd, warned Democrats not to count on Hollywood money if they turn their backs on the industry's legislative priority. 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Chris Dodd, warned Democrats not to count on Hollywood money if they turn their backs on the industry's legislative priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">\n\u003cp>\"Those who count on quote 'Hollywood' for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their job is at stake. Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>- Chris Dodd, MPAA Chairman and CEO\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Among the biggest recipients of Hollywood money are Californian members of Congress who remain supportive of the controversial anti-piracy bills. Eight Californians in the House of Representatives, as well as Democratic U.S. Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, co-sponsored the bills, representing more co-sponsors than from any other state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Boxer was the top Senate recipient of campaign contributions from the movie production industry over the last six years, picking up nearly $413,000, according todata compiled by MapLight.org and the Center for Responsive Politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Rep. Howard Berman, whose Los Angeles district includes the famed Hollywood sign, is the industry's top beneficiary in the House, picking up $106,500 in the last two years of reported contributions. Berman was an early co-sponsor of the Stop Online Piracy Act that the Motion Picture Association of America has been pushing. \u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The movie industry and other supporters maintain that the bills, known as \u003ca href=\"http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:H.R.3261:\" target=\"_blank\">SOPA\u003c/a> in the House and \u003ca href=\"http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s968rs/pdf/BILLS-112s968rs.pdf%22\" target=\"_blank\">PIPA [PDF]\u003c/a> in the Senate, are necessary to fight foreign websites that pirate American films and music. Opponents, including tech companies, claim the bills threaten freedom of expression on the Internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The debate pits two powerful California industries against each other, but one gives much more political money than the other. In the Senate, for example, MapLight.org \u003ca href=\"http://maplight.org/content/72917\" target=\"_blank\">found\u003c/a> that the entertainment industry gave $14 million in contributions over the last six years, compared with $2 million from Internet interest groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rare admission of the power of campaign contributions from Dodd, a former senator and past presidential candidate, puts a spotlight on the influence of money in this policy debate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Candidly, those who count on quote 'Hollywood' for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their job is at stake,\" Dodd told \u003ca href=\"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/19/exclusive-hollywood-lobbyist-threatens-to-cut-off-obama-2012-money-over-anti/\" target=\"_blank\">Fox News\u003c/a> last week. \"Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd, CEO of the movie industry association, added: \"I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats, which they have, don't make the false assumptions this year that because we did it in years past, we will do it this year.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Howard Gantman, spokesman for the association, said in an e-mail that Dodd \"was merely making the obvious point that people support politicians whose views coincide with their own. When politicians take positions that people disagree with, those people tend not to support those politicians.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meredith McGehee, policy director of the Washington-based Campaign Legal Center, said Dodd's statement \"reveals how much the current system is legalized bribery.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It’s notable that it’s coming from someone who was so steeped in the system,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Art Brodsky, spokesman for Public Knowledge, an advocacy group that fought the anti-piracy bills, said campaign contributions have indeed factored into the policy battle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You’d have to be totally naive not to think so,\" he said. \"Look at the contributions and look where people were on the issue.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Californian co-sponsors of anti-piracy legislation in the House include Los Angeles-area Democrats Karen Bass, who received nearly $30,000 from the movie industry; Brad Sherman, who got $23,000; and Adam Schiff, who picked up about $19,000. Another co-sponsor, Rep. Mary Bono Mack, a Palm Springs Republican, received almost $22,000 over two years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Technology companies and Internet activists succeeded in stalling the bills despite the fact that Hollywood gives more money. But that doesn't mean that campaign cash didn't matter, said McGehee, because the fight isn't over. \"We're only in round one,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein, who garnered about $146,000 over six years from movie production interests, is working toward compromise legislation. In a statement, Feinstein said: \"The only way we can resolve the differences on this bill is by the key CEOs sitting down together.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/54249/hollywood-money-flows-to-calif-politicians-who-support-anti-piracy-bills","authors":["1261"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_223","news_1758","news_6188","news_13"],"tags":["news_2204","news_2203"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_53900":{"type":"posts","id":"news_53900","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"53900","score":null,"sort":[1327077948000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"anti-piracy-bills-that-were-focus-of-internet-protest-put-on-hold-by-congress","title":"SOPA, PIPA, Anti-Piracy Bills That Were Focus of Internet Protest, Put on Hold by Congress","publishDate":1327077948,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>(AP) WASHINGTON -- Facing a storm of protest over online piracy legislation, Senate and House leaders said Friday they will put off further action on the measures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he was postponing a test vote set for Tuesday \"in light of recent events.\" Those events included a petition drive by Google that attracted more than 7 million participants and a one-day blackout by the online encyclopedia Wikipedia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House Judiciary Committee chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, quickly followed suit, saying consideration of a similar House bill would be postponed \"until there is wider agreement on a solution.\" \u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Senate's Protect Intellectual Property Act and the House's Stop Online Piracy Act have strong support from the entertainment industry and other businesses that lose billions of dollars annually to intellectual property theft and online sales of counterfeit products. But they also have strong opposition from Internet-related companies that argue the bill would lead to over-regulation and censorship of the Internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reid has also seen at least a half-dozen senators who sponsored the bill announce they now oppose it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reid said counterfeiting and piracy cost the American economy billions of dollars every year and \"there is no reason that the legitimate issues raised by many about this bill cannot be resolved.\" He said he was optimistic about reaching a compromise in the coming weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The main Senate sponsor, Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said he respected Reid's decision to postpone the vote but lamented the Senate's unwillingness to debate the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The day will come when the senators who forced this move will look back and realize they made a knee-jerk reaction to a monumental problem,\" he said. Criminals in China, Russia and other countries \"who do nothing but peddle in counterfeit products and stolen American content are smugly watching how the United States Senate decided\" it was not worth debating the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Senate bill would allow the Justice Department, and copyright holders, to seek court orders against foreign websites accused of copyright infringement. It would bar online advertising networks and payment facilitators such as credit card companies from doing business with an alleged violator. It also would forbid search engines from linking to such sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Tuesday vote was on whether to move the legislation to the Senate floor for debate. With the recent desertions and a statement Thursday by Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell that it is too early to consider the bill, it appeared supporters lacked the 60 votes needed to advance the measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McConnell on Friday applauded Reid's decision, saying it would \"prevent a counterproductive rush toward flawed legislation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the House, Smith said he had \"heard from the critics\" and resolved that it was \"clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products.\" Smith had planned on holding further committee votes on his bill next month. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update 12:15 p.m.\u003c/strong> Sen. Dianne Feinstein's office sent this statement from Feinstein to KQED's Joshua Johnson: \u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\n\u003cp>“I believe postponement of the cloture vote is the correct action. I also believe the only way we can resolve the differences on this bill is by the key CEO’s sitting down together. It is my opinion that a fair and balanced bill—that protects American creators from piracy without imposing undue burdens on California’s growing high-tech community or Internet freedom can be achieved.”\n\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein had been a supporter of the bill. California's other senator, Barbara Boxer, is also a supporter.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1327090746,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":17,"wordCount":614},"headData":{"title":"SOPA, PIPA, Anti-Piracy Bills That Were Focus of Internet Protest, Put on Hold by Congress | KQED","description":"(AP) WASHINGTON -- Facing a storm of protest over online piracy legislation, Senate and House leaders said Friday they will put off further action on the measures. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he was postponing a test vote set for Tuesday "in light of recent events." 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But they also have strong opposition from Internet-related companies that argue the bill would lead to over-regulation and censorship of the Internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reid has also seen at least a half-dozen senators who sponsored the bill announce they now oppose it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reid said counterfeiting and piracy cost the American economy billions of dollars every year and \"there is no reason that the legitimate issues raised by many about this bill cannot be resolved.\" He said he was optimistic about reaching a compromise in the coming weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The main Senate sponsor, Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said he respected Reid's decision to postpone the vote but lamented the Senate's unwillingness to debate the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The day will come when the senators who forced this move will look back and realize they made a knee-jerk reaction to a monumental problem,\" he said. Criminals in China, Russia and other countries \"who do nothing but peddle in counterfeit products and stolen American content are smugly watching how the United States Senate decided\" it was not worth debating the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Senate bill would allow the Justice Department, and copyright holders, to seek court orders against foreign websites accused of copyright infringement. It would bar online advertising networks and payment facilitators such as credit card companies from doing business with an alleged violator. It also would forbid search engines from linking to such sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Tuesday vote was on whether to move the legislation to the Senate floor for debate. With the recent desertions and a statement Thursday by Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell that it is too early to consider the bill, it appeared supporters lacked the 60 votes needed to advance the measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McConnell on Friday applauded Reid's decision, saying it would \"prevent a counterproductive rush toward flawed legislation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the House, Smith said he had \"heard from the critics\" and resolved that it was \"clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products.\" Smith had planned on holding further committee votes on his bill next month. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update 12:15 p.m.\u003c/strong> Sen. Dianne Feinstein's office sent this statement from Feinstein to KQED's Joshua Johnson: \u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\n\u003cp>“I believe postponement of the cloture vote is the correct action. I also believe the only way we can resolve the differences on this bill is by the key CEO’s sitting down together. It is my opinion that a fair and balanced bill—that protects American creators from piracy without imposing undue burdens on California’s growing high-tech community or Internet freedom can be achieved.”\n\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein had been a supporter of the bill. California's other senator, Barbara Boxer, is also a supporter.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/53900/anti-piracy-bills-that-were-focus-of-internet-protest-put-on-hold-by-congress","authors":["80"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_1758","news_248"],"tags":["news_2204","news_2203"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_53650":{"type":"posts","id":"news_53650","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"53650","score":null,"sort":[1326918194000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"how-to-access-wikipedia-today","title":"How to Access Wikipedia Today ","publishDate":1326918194,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Wow, most rapidly successful protest \u003cem>ever\u003c/em>?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just a couple of hours into the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/01/18/wikipedia-other-sites-go-dark-to-protest-online-piracy-legislation/\">online strike\u003c/a> against a proposed anti-piracy law, and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla), a co-sponsor of the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011 (or PIPA, for humans), has \u003ca href=\"http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71589.html\">pulled his support\u003c/a>. Rubio is just the latest member of Congress to bail on the legislation. Which is much to the chagrin of content-creation baron and cranky billionaire Rupert Murdoch:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/#!/rupertmurdoch/status/159425611000057856\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, AP is running an article about the most high-profile strike participant's disabling of itself: \"\u003ca href=\"http://news.yahoo.com/wikipedia-editors-sites-blackout-120914984.html\">Wikipedia editors question site's blackout\u003c/a>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Wikipedia's English-language site shut down at midnight Eastern Standard Time Tuesday and the organization said it would stay down for 24 hours...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is the first time the English site has been blacked out...(S)ome editors are so uneasy with the move that they have blacked out their own user profile pages or resigned their administrative rights on the site to protest. Some likened the site's decision to fighting censorship with censorship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the site's own \"five pillars\" of conduct says that Wikipedia \"is written from a neutral point of view.\" The site strives to \"avoid advocacy, and we characterize information and issues rather than debate them.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales argues that the site can maintain neutrality in content even as it takes public positions on issues.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>If you're really panicked about not being able to access the Big W today, \u003ca href=\"http://stewd.io/b/2012/01/18/wikipedia\">\u003cstrong>you can find on this page an easy-to-use bookmarklet that will unblock the site\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>, which we were tipped off to via \u003ca href=\"http://gawker.com/5877140/what-even-non-nerds-need-to-know-about-sopa\">Gawker\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To make it work, drag the \"Unblock Wikipedia\" link to your bookmark bar, go to the Wikipedia page you want to view, and click on that same \"Unblock Wikipedia\" link that you now have bookmarked. You'll then gain access to the Wikipedia page. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(You can also use Google's cache function. Search for something on Google, and instead of clicking on the Wikipedia link, scroll over to the double arrows to the right of the link, then click on the \"Cached\" link.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Oh, and you can also access the site on your phone.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thus, only a few moment ago and without too much fuss, I was able to read all about former light-hitting Giants' shortstop \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_LeMaster\">Johnnie LeMaster\u003c/a>, just because he happened to pop into my head. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proving yet again how important Wikipedia is to the intellectual life of our nation. \u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1326919214,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":16,"wordCount":429},"headData":{"title":"How to Access Wikipedia Today | KQED","description":"Wow, most rapidly successful protest ever? Just a couple of hours into the online strike against a proposed anti-piracy law, and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla), a co-sponsor of the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011 (or PIPA, for humans), has pulled his support. Rubio is just","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"53650 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=53650","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/01/18/how-to-access-wikipedia-today/","disqusTitle":"How to Access Wikipedia Today ","path":"/news/53650/how-to-access-wikipedia-today","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Wow, most rapidly successful protest \u003cem>ever\u003c/em>?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just a couple of hours into the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/01/18/wikipedia-other-sites-go-dark-to-protest-online-piracy-legislation/\">online strike\u003c/a> against a proposed anti-piracy law, and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla), a co-sponsor of the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011 (or PIPA, for humans), has \u003ca href=\"http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71589.html\">pulled his support\u003c/a>. Rubio is just the latest member of Congress to bail on the legislation. Which is much to the chagrin of content-creation baron and cranky billionaire Rupert Murdoch:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/#!/rupertmurdoch/status/159425611000057856\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, AP is running an article about the most high-profile strike participant's disabling of itself: \"\u003ca href=\"http://news.yahoo.com/wikipedia-editors-sites-blackout-120914984.html\">Wikipedia editors question site's blackout\u003c/a>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Wikipedia's English-language site shut down at midnight Eastern Standard Time Tuesday and the organization said it would stay down for 24 hours...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is the first time the English site has been blacked out...(S)ome editors are so uneasy with the move that they have blacked out their own user profile pages or resigned their administrative rights on the site to protest. Some likened the site's decision to fighting censorship with censorship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the site's own \"five pillars\" of conduct says that Wikipedia \"is written from a neutral point of view.\" The site strives to \"avoid advocacy, and we characterize information and issues rather than debate them.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales argues that the site can maintain neutrality in content even as it takes public positions on issues.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>If you're really panicked about not being able to access the Big W today, \u003ca href=\"http://stewd.io/b/2012/01/18/wikipedia\">\u003cstrong>you can find on this page an easy-to-use bookmarklet that will unblock the site\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>, which we were tipped off to via \u003ca href=\"http://gawker.com/5877140/what-even-non-nerds-need-to-know-about-sopa\">Gawker\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To make it work, drag the \"Unblock Wikipedia\" link to your bookmark bar, go to the Wikipedia page you want to view, and click on that same \"Unblock Wikipedia\" link that you now have bookmarked. You'll then gain access to the Wikipedia page. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(You can also use Google's cache function. Search for something on Google, and instead of clicking on the Wikipedia link, scroll over to the double arrows to the right of the link, then click on the \"Cached\" link.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Oh, and you can also access the site on your phone.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thus, only a few moment ago and without too much fuss, I was able to read all about former light-hitting Giants' shortstop \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_LeMaster\">Johnnie LeMaster\u003c/a>, just because he happened to pop into my head. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proving yet again how important Wikipedia is to the intellectual life of our nation. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/53650/how-to-access-wikipedia-today","authors":["80"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_1758","news_6188","news_248"],"tags":["news_2204","news_2203","news_633"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_53535":{"type":"posts","id":"news_53535","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"53535","score":null,"sort":[1326907911000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"wikipedia-other-sites-go-dark-to-protest-online-piracy-legislation","title":"Wikipedia, Other Sites Go Dark to Protest Online Piracy Legislation","publishDate":1326907911,"format":"aside","headTitle":"Wikipedia, Other Sites Go Dark to Protest Online Piracy Legislation | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update 3:10 p.m.\u003c/strong> Here’s a \u003ca href=\"http://www.twitvid.com/embed.php?guid=YXGQK&autoplay=0\">video\u003c/a>, submitted via Tackable, of MC Hammer speaking out against SOPA at a Civic Center rally in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"480\" height=\"360\" src=\"http://www.twitvid.com/embed.php?guid=YXGQK&autoplay=0\" frameborder=\"0\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original post\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nIf you don’t know what the Stop Online Privacy Act today is yet, you can \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act\">research it on Wikipedia\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that’s the only thing you’ll find on the the Mother of All online resources today. \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page\">Wikipedia is down\u003c/a> — save for this message:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For over a decade, we have spent millions of hours building the largest encyclopedia in human history. Right now, the U.S. Congress is considering legislation that could fatally damage the free and open Internet. For 24 hours, to raise awareness, we are blacking out Wikipedia.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The site is just one of thousands \u003ca href=\"http://sopastrike.com/\">on strike\u003c/a> today, in protest against SOPA and its compansion bill in the Senate, PIPA. The bill is intended as a remedy for online piracy of digital content like software, music, and movies, and is backed by the entertainment industry, the Chamber of Commerce, and a \u003ca href=\"http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/off_topic/murdoch_rips_white_house_sopa_stance_google_on_twitter.html\">whole lot by Rupert Murdoch\u003c/a>. Opposing it are tech giants like Google, Facebook, and Yahoo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most controversial parts of the legislation, broadly, would mark sites at which copyrighted material is offered illegally as infringers of intellectual property, and would require Internet service providers and search engines to remove them.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The clamor over the bill may be having an effect. Last week, Rep Lamar Smith (R-Tex), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said he would \u003ca href=\"http://lamarsmith.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=274902\">remove\u003c/a> the provision that blocks the domain name of an indentified infringer. (So you wouldn’t be able to get to a site by typing in, say, “IllegalMovies.com.”) \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And today, in what would seem to be a major blow to the legislation’s backers, two senators, including a co-sponsor of the legislation, have backed away from their support. From the \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/technology/web-protests-piracy-bill-and-2-key-senators-change-course.html?hp\">New York Times\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Internet protests on Wednesday quickly cut into Congressional support for anti-Web piracy measures as lawmakers abandoned and rethought their backing for legislation that pitted new media interests against some of the most powerful old-line commercial interests in Washington. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Freshman Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a rising Republican star, was first out of the starting gate Wednesday morning with his announcement that he would no longer back anti-Internet piracy legislation he had co-sponsored. Senator John Cornyn, the Texas Republican who heads the campaign operation for his party, quickly followed suit and urged Congress take more time to study the measure that had been set for a test vote next week. \u003c/p>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Yesterday, KQED’s Cy Musiker got the scoop on what all the fuss is about from James Temple, technology columnist at the San Francisco Chronicle. \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/kqednews/RN201201171730/a\">Listen here\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And to read pro and con arguments from the big players, here’s a Jan 6 \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/01/06/the-online-privacy-debate/\">debate from KQED Radio’s Forum program\u003c/a>, with representatives from NBC Universal and Google. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And by the way, if you’re \u003ca href=\"http://flowingdata.com/2012/01/17/watching-wtf-wikipedia-as-sopapipa-blackout-begins/\">really hard up with a book report due or something\u003c/a>, here’s a tip from \u003ca href=\"http://gawker.com/5877140/what-even-non-nerds-need-to-know-about-sopa\">Gawker\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Even though Wikipedia has picked up its toys and stormed off like a baby, you can still access it. Just drag this bookmark to your browser bookmark bar: \u003ca>\u003cstrong>Unblock Wikipedia\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>. Then visit any Wikipedia site, like \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this one\u003c/a>, and click the bookmark. Voila.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Also today, Mashable is live-tweeting a protest against SOPA/PIPA in New York City…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>http://storify.com/mashable/ny-sopa-and-pipa-protest\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1685490075,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":true,"iframeSrcs":["http://www.twitvid.com/embed.php"],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":20,"wordCount":593},"headData":{"title":"Wikipedia, Other Sites Go Dark to Protest Online Piracy Legislation | KQED","description":"Update 3:10 p.m. Here's a video, submitted via Tackable, of MC Hammer speaking out against SOPA at a Civic Center rally in San Francisco. Original post If you don't know what the Stop Online Privacy Act today is yet, you can research it on Wikipedia But that's the only thing you'll find on the the","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/53535/wikipedia-other-sites-go-dark-to-protest-online-piracy-legislation","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update 3:10 p.m.\u003c/strong> Here’s a \u003ca href=\"http://www.twitvid.com/embed.php?guid=YXGQK&autoplay=0\">video\u003c/a>, submitted via Tackable, of MC Hammer speaking out against SOPA at a Civic Center rally in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"480\" height=\"360\" src=\"http://www.twitvid.com/embed.php?guid=YXGQK&autoplay=0\" frameborder=\"0\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original post\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nIf you don’t know what the Stop Online Privacy Act today is yet, you can \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act\">research it on Wikipedia\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that’s the only thing you’ll find on the the Mother of All online resources today. \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page\">Wikipedia is down\u003c/a> — save for this message:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For over a decade, we have spent millions of hours building the largest encyclopedia in human history. Right now, the U.S. Congress is considering legislation that could fatally damage the free and open Internet. For 24 hours, to raise awareness, we are blacking out Wikipedia.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The site is just one of thousands \u003ca href=\"http://sopastrike.com/\">on strike\u003c/a> today, in protest against SOPA and its compansion bill in the Senate, PIPA. The bill is intended as a remedy for online piracy of digital content like software, music, and movies, and is backed by the entertainment industry, the Chamber of Commerce, and a \u003ca href=\"http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/off_topic/murdoch_rips_white_house_sopa_stance_google_on_twitter.html\">whole lot by Rupert Murdoch\u003c/a>. Opposing it are tech giants like Google, Facebook, and Yahoo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most controversial parts of the legislation, broadly, would mark sites at which copyrighted material is offered illegally as infringers of intellectual property, and would require Internet service providers and search engines to remove them.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The clamor over the bill may be having an effect. Last week, Rep Lamar Smith (R-Tex), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said he would \u003ca href=\"http://lamarsmith.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=274902\">remove\u003c/a> the provision that blocks the domain name of an indentified infringer. (So you wouldn’t be able to get to a site by typing in, say, “IllegalMovies.com.”) \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And today, in what would seem to be a major blow to the legislation’s backers, two senators, including a co-sponsor of the legislation, have backed away from their support. From the \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/technology/web-protests-piracy-bill-and-2-key-senators-change-course.html?hp\">New York Times\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Internet protests on Wednesday quickly cut into Congressional support for anti-Web piracy measures as lawmakers abandoned and rethought their backing for legislation that pitted new media interests against some of the most powerful old-line commercial interests in Washington. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Freshman Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a rising Republican star, was first out of the starting gate Wednesday morning with his announcement that he would no longer back anti-Internet piracy legislation he had co-sponsored. Senator John Cornyn, the Texas Republican who heads the campaign operation for his party, quickly followed suit and urged Congress take more time to study the measure that had been set for a test vote next week. \u003c/p>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Yesterday, KQED’s Cy Musiker got the scoop on what all the fuss is about from James Temple, technology columnist at the San Francisco Chronicle. \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/kqednews/RN201201171730/a\">Listen here\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And to read pro and con arguments from the big players, here’s a Jan 6 \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/01/06/the-online-privacy-debate/\">debate from KQED Radio’s Forum program\u003c/a>, with representatives from NBC Universal and Google. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And by the way, if you’re \u003ca href=\"http://flowingdata.com/2012/01/17/watching-wtf-wikipedia-as-sopapipa-blackout-begins/\">really hard up with a book report due or something\u003c/a>, here’s a tip from \u003ca href=\"http://gawker.com/5877140/what-even-non-nerds-need-to-know-about-sopa\">Gawker\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Even though Wikipedia has picked up its toys and stormed off like a baby, you can still access it. Just drag this bookmark to your browser bookmark bar: \u003ca>\u003cstrong>Unblock Wikipedia\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>. Then visit any Wikipedia site, like \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this one\u003c/a>, and click the bookmark. Voila.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Also today, Mashable is live-tweeting a protest against SOPA/PIPA in New York City…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>http://storify.com/mashable/ny-sopa-and-pipa-protest\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/53535/wikipedia-other-sites-go-dark-to-protest-online-piracy-legislation","authors":["80"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_1758","news_6188","news_248"],"tags":["news_2204","news_2203","news_633"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_52162":{"type":"posts","id":"news_52162","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"52162","score":null,"sort":[1325880067000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-online-privacy-debate","title":"Catch Up With the Online Privacy Debate","publishDate":1325880067,"format":"aside","headTitle":"Catch Up With the Online Privacy Debate | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_52442\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 250px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/01/computer-equipment_111214.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/01/computer-equipment_111214.jpg\" alt=\"computer equipment and large screens\" title=\"computer-equipment_111214\" width=\"250\" height=\"210\" class=\"size-full wp-image-52442\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo: Getty Images\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>And the award for acronym of the week goes to … SOPA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And no, it does not stand for South of the Panhandle, but rather \u003ca href=\"http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr3261ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr3261ih.pdf\">The Stop Online Piracy Act\u003c/a>, a bill aimed at curbing online piracy, currently being considered by the House. The bill has been getting lots of attention this week with business and entertainment industries taking up arms against freedom of information advocates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In case you missed the discussion and want to bone up before tonight’s cocktail party, listen to this \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2011/12/29/144417831/godaddys-suport-for-sopa-draws-customers-ire\">recent interview on NPR\u003c/a>. But if you really want to sound smart, read through these highlights from \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201201030900\">Forum\u003c/a> with guest host Joshua Johnson and guests Rick Cotton of NBC Universal, Fred von Lohmann of Google and independent filmmaker Ellen Seidler.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For people who feel that Internet piracy is one of those things that only affect big companies and rich people, tell us how you think it affects the average person?\u003cbr>\n\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rick Cotton of NBC Universal\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You have to take a step back and look at what our jobs and our economy are based on. The US does not aspire to be a low-cost manufacturing economy. We aspire to have high-wage jobs, to have industries that add a high amount of value. Only if we sustain those sectors of our economy can we hope to compete globally and get our economy back on a path toward growth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This bill addresses not only the theft of digital content, which can extend from books and software to TV, films, and electronic games, etc., but it addresses the rampant sale of counterfeit physical goods from foreign websites, which undercuts many of the high- growth sectors of the US economy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what’s at stake here is really the long-term health of the US economy. If we don’t ensure that the economic benefits of our innovation and our technical invention and our creativity create jobs here, and allow them to be stolen by criminals operating sites in foreign countries, we are truly risking our future, our children’s jobs, and our economic health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NBC Universal, Viacom, Disney, News Corp are companies that deal in billions of dollars in content and that are extremely lucrative and valuable. Talk about what the landscape might look like for companies if these two bills had already been in place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rick Cotton of NBC Universal\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I want to stress the fact that it also extends to companies like Pfizer, pharmaceutical companies, small companies that depend on innovative machine tools that drive much of the job growth in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The other framework to consider is truly the rule of law on the Internet. If these laws had been in effect, one could imagine the evolution of the Internet over the past decade or so would have been a recognition by the user community that lawlessness and theft — trafficking in stolen digital goods and content — is as unacceptable in the digital world as it is in the physical world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What we’ve allowed to develop is the notion that somehow the Internet is a zone where anything goes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turning to Fred von Lohmann of Google, it seems like your concern is that in the effort to catch these pirates, it may also end up doing damage downstream in the channels that pirates do business in, but also that people like me use to live our digital lives…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fred von Lohmann\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s right. Google has always been a staunch opponent of online piracy. But it’s incredibly important to emphasize what a small proportion of the Internet experience relates to these issues. These are important issues –- no question we need to do things to stop this activity. We support measures that would try to address these issues, particularly with foreign pirate sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the issue here is that when government acts, you have to be careful about unintended consequences. We don’t want a bill passing into law in America that sends a message to other countries that Internet censorship is a good way to handle your domestic legal issues. That’s a direction that countries like Iran, China, Pakistan have already gone down. We don’t think it’s appropriate for the US to follow in that line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So you’ve used the C word, which nobody likes to use in relation to US policy. What about SOPA and PIPA do you consider to be a censoring of the internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fred von Lohmann\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s a very important point. The bills specifically create four new remedies for intellectual property rights holders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One, the US government would be able go to court and get a site declared as dedicated to infringing activity or theft. Once that order has been issued, Internet service providers would then be required to disappear the web site for American Internet users, — block the site and make it disappear off the Internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The second remedy would require search engines to delete that site from their search results.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Google supports the other two remedies in the bill. Once a court order is issued against a site, you’d be able to cut off the advertising relationships the site has with networks like Google’s and Yahoo’s and others. And you’d be able to get payment processors to cut off their relationship with these sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the first two –- the site blocking and the search removal, are an echo of the kinds of approaches that more repressive regimes have pioneered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rick Cotton of NBC Universal, the aspect of blocking the sites and blocking their businesses –- are both those tactics essential or would you be willing to live with more of a compromise measure?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rick Cotton\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No they’re both really critical. I think that’s because Internet users have to recognize stealing and accessing stolen content on the Internet is simply not an acceptable mode of utilizing the internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sites that are subject to the first two remedies, which is denying access from an ISP and removing them from search results — these are related to sites dedicated to theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’d say that Mr. von Lohmann and others are confusing lawlessness with freedom. Freedom does not include freedom to steal. It doesn’t include that in the physical world and it should not include that in the Internet world. The notion that legitimate enforcement techniques can be misused in a repressive way can be made with respect to virtually any enforcement tool that’s available in a civilized society.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Chinese use police to arrest dissidents. Does that mean we shouldn’t use police? No it means that our enforcement techniques should be directed and carefully calibrated to address illegal activity. That’s what this does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mr. Cotton, I wonder how much of the onus for this is on congress and how much on the industry. For example, if I see something on USA, a network that NBC Universal owns, and I love it and want to share it with somebody but it’s not on your web site, I might just go to YouTube to see if somebody grabbed it. At what point do content providers just say that this is the way of the world, so we just have to stay one step ahead of the pirates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rick Cotton\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Access to legitimate content is mushrooming on the Internet. ABC, NBC, and Fox came together around Hulu. Hulu is now ad-supported and is a subscription site; they\u003cbr>\nmake available huge amounts of TV content. As does iTunes with music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But these new forms of distribution that all of the content providers are embracing cannot compete against stolen, cannot compete against free. TV programs or films or office software — all of these require huge investment in order to produce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fred von Lohmann of Google, how sympathetic are you to challenges that companies like NBC Universal, Viacom, Disney, etc. face in producing content? In some ways\u003cbr>\nGoogle has been blessed –- you’ve had a piece of intellectual property –- this wonderful search algorithm that has printed money for years and made your company wildly profitable. That’s a different model than that of the content providers, where the capital barrier to entry is enormous to make that kind of money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fred von Lohmann\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We at Google are very sympathetic. We invest an enormous amount of money in trying to help creators monetize their content.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I agree that the legitimate alternatives are crucial. Netflix, Spotify, services like that are going to make a bigger dent on Internet piracy this year than anything congress can do. Ultimately the only way to beat online piracy is to give people something better that is legitimate. The industry has been making great strides in this, services like Hulu and Netflix. But Google has also done a great deal. We’ve built a content identification system into YouTube that allows rights holders to say I own copyright on this content. Our services will then automatically detect when that content appears, and we will allow the rights holder to block that if they want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What we’ve found with more than 3,000 content owners, both large companies and small — the vast majority elect to keep that content up. We put ads around it, and the majority of the money goes back to the content owner. So we’re trying to build those kinds of solutions that will let content owners invest, make great content, and profit from it online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the current iteration of SOPA, there was a manager’s amendment proferred that would clarify that the bill is not meant to target American web sites: Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter. How concerned are you that the slope would be slippery and that congress would say at some point we have to apply this to American companies as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fred von Lohmann\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are two ways in which the bills both on the House and Senate side continue to threaten American companies. Both bills would include American companies that operate web sites on so-called country-code top-level domains. Amazon.ca for Canada or eBay.co.uk for the UK, etc. The bills reach those domains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The other area is that there was a foundation put in place by congress in 1998 – the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, or DMCA. That law created the copyright foundation for all of the Internet companies that people enjoy. All of the Internet companies have been concerned that PIPA and SOPA might undermine that foundation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I want to bring in Ellen Seidler, a filmmaker based in the Bay Area, who has had some experience with Internet piracy affecting her. Tell me about the kind of work you do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ellen Seidler\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few years ago I was a partner in an independent film, self-financed. It was quite successful in the film festival circuit then we released it on DVD and legitimate online outlets. Within 24 hours it was online in illegal form.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I was aware piracy was going to be a problem, but what shocked me was the extent and how rapidly that one link multiplied into hundreds then thousands. We stopped counting. I’ve documented over 50,000 download links and streams to our film thus far.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The thing that surprised me most was not just that the film was being pirated, but what I saw as driving the piracy – which is the monetization of stolen content. It’s not the pirate bays of the world or the bit torrents, it’s the Cyberlockers and the business model that depends on stolen content.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With regard to Google, Mr. von Lohmann is talking about effort to cut off the money supply. But in the two years of dealing with this issue, every time I’ve approached Google about pirate web sits or ads by pirate web sites, they’ve done everything to avoid taking responsibility. They send DMCA notices to a web site called chillineffects.org, the implication that your DMCA notice is somehow chilling free speech, when the fact is that you as an artist are just asserting your legal rights. So I find it a little disingenuous to hear how concerned Google is about this when their ads the most prominent across the web.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Can you estimate how much you would have made from this film if it weren’t pirated?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ellen Seidler\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The film was quite successful; we screened it at more than 100 film festivals around the world. It was well received and very popular. But the bottom has dropped out out DVD sales. If we’d released it about 5 over 6 years ago we’d have no problem making our money back, but now that’s never going to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fredrick von Lohmann of Google, what would you say to Ellen?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fredrick von Lohmann\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We of course are very sorry. However, we’ve been very clear, including with the takedown notices we’ve received from Ms. Seidler. We take that material down. If someone tells us there’s pirated content on a particular web page , we remove an ad from that page.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On our own intitiative, we’ve blocked more than 25,000 web pages from receiving our ads. We did that without receiving a complaint. We get complaints for copyright infringement for far less than 1% of the pages that show our ads, and when we do we immediately take those ads down.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Other good reads on the topic:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Some companies have threatened to \u003ca href=\"http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/google-amazon-twitter-and-facebook-consider-nuclear-blackout/14307\">go black\u003c/a> if the bill passes\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The Online News Association has \u003ca href=\"http://journalists.org/2012/01/05/ona-on-sopa/\">come out against the bill\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/02/business/media/the-danger-of-an-attack-on-piracy-online.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all\">David Carr’s\u003c/a> take from the NY Times\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A \u003ca href=\"http://mashable.com/follow/topics/stop-online-piracy-act/\">round up of resources\u003c/a> from Mashable\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1685490357,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":70,"wordCount":2365},"headData":{"title":"Catch Up With the Online Privacy Debate | KQED","description":"And the award for acronym of the week goes to ... 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The bill has been getting lots of attention this week with business and entertainment industries taking up arms against freedom of information advocates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In case you missed the discussion and want to bone up before tonight’s cocktail party, listen to this \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2011/12/29/144417831/godaddys-suport-for-sopa-draws-customers-ire\">recent interview on NPR\u003c/a>. But if you really want to sound smart, read through these highlights from \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201201030900\">Forum\u003c/a> with guest host Joshua Johnson and guests Rick Cotton of NBC Universal, Fred von Lohmann of Google and independent filmmaker Ellen Seidler.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For people who feel that Internet piracy is one of those things that only affect big companies and rich people, tell us how you think it affects the average person?\u003cbr>\n\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rick Cotton of NBC Universal\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You have to take a step back and look at what our jobs and our economy are based on. The US does not aspire to be a low-cost manufacturing economy. We aspire to have high-wage jobs, to have industries that add a high amount of value. Only if we sustain those sectors of our economy can we hope to compete globally and get our economy back on a path toward growth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This bill addresses not only the theft of digital content, which can extend from books and software to TV, films, and electronic games, etc., but it addresses the rampant sale of counterfeit physical goods from foreign websites, which undercuts many of the high- growth sectors of the US economy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what’s at stake here is really the long-term health of the US economy. If we don’t ensure that the economic benefits of our innovation and our technical invention and our creativity create jobs here, and allow them to be stolen by criminals operating sites in foreign countries, we are truly risking our future, our children’s jobs, and our economic health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NBC Universal, Viacom, Disney, News Corp are companies that deal in billions of dollars in content and that are extremely lucrative and valuable. 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If these laws had been in effect, one could imagine the evolution of the Internet over the past decade or so would have been a recognition by the user community that lawlessness and theft — trafficking in stolen digital goods and content — is as unacceptable in the digital world as it is in the physical world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What we’ve allowed to develop is the notion that somehow the Internet is a zone where anything goes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turning to Fred von Lohmann of Google, it seems like your concern is that in the effort to catch these pirates, it may also end up doing damage downstream in the channels that pirates do business in, but also that people like me use to live our digital lives…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fred von Lohmann\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s right. Google has always been a staunch opponent of online piracy. But it’s incredibly important to emphasize what a small proportion of the Internet experience relates to these issues. These are important issues –- no question we need to do things to stop this activity. We support measures that would try to address these issues, particularly with foreign pirate sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the issue here is that when government acts, you have to be careful about unintended consequences. We don’t want a bill passing into law in America that sends a message to other countries that Internet censorship is a good way to handle your domestic legal issues. That’s a direction that countries like Iran, China, Pakistan have already gone down. We don’t think it’s appropriate for the US to follow in that line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So you’ve used the C word, which nobody likes to use in relation to US policy. 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And you’d be able to get payment processors to cut off their relationship with these sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the first two –- the site blocking and the search removal, are an echo of the kinds of approaches that more repressive regimes have pioneered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rick Cotton of NBC Universal, the aspect of blocking the sites and blocking their businesses –- are both those tactics essential or would you be willing to live with more of a compromise measure?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rick Cotton\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No they’re both really critical. I think that’s because Internet users have to recognize stealing and accessing stolen content on the Internet is simply not an acceptable mode of utilizing the internet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sites that are subject to the first two remedies, which is denying access from an ISP and removing them from search results — these are related to sites dedicated to theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’d say that Mr. von Lohmann and others are confusing lawlessness with freedom. Freedom does not include freedom to steal. It doesn’t include that in the physical world and it should not include that in the Internet world. The notion that legitimate enforcement techniques can be misused in a repressive way can be made with respect to virtually any enforcement tool that’s available in a civilized society.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Chinese use police to arrest dissidents. Does that mean we shouldn’t use police? No it means that our enforcement techniques should be directed and carefully calibrated to address illegal activity. That’s what this does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mr. Cotton, I wonder how much of the onus for this is on congress and how much on the industry. For example, if I see something on USA, a network that NBC Universal owns, and I love it and want to share it with somebody but it’s not on your web site, I might just go to YouTube to see if somebody grabbed it. At what point do content providers just say that this is the way of the world, so we just have to stay one step ahead of the pirates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rick Cotton\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Access to legitimate content is mushrooming on the Internet. ABC, NBC, and Fox came together around Hulu. Hulu is now ad-supported and is a subscription site; they\u003cbr>\nmake available huge amounts of TV content. As does iTunes with music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But these new forms of distribution that all of the content providers are embracing cannot compete against stolen, cannot compete against free. TV programs or films or office software — all of these require huge investment in order to produce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fred von Lohmann of Google, how sympathetic are you to challenges that companies like NBC Universal, Viacom, Disney, etc. face in producing content? In some ways\u003cbr>\nGoogle has been blessed –- you’ve had a piece of intellectual property –- this wonderful search algorithm that has printed money for years and made your company wildly profitable. That’s a different model than that of the content providers, where the capital barrier to entry is enormous to make that kind of money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fred von Lohmann\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We at Google are very sympathetic. We invest an enormous amount of money in trying to help creators monetize their content.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I agree that the legitimate alternatives are crucial. Netflix, Spotify, services like that are going to make a bigger dent on Internet piracy this year than anything congress can do. Ultimately the only way to beat online piracy is to give people something better that is legitimate. The industry has been making great strides in this, services like Hulu and Netflix. But Google has also done a great deal. We’ve built a content identification system into YouTube that allows rights holders to say I own copyright on this content. Our services will then automatically detect when that content appears, and we will allow the rights holder to block that if they want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What we’ve found with more than 3,000 content owners, both large companies and small — the vast majority elect to keep that content up. We put ads around it, and the majority of the money goes back to the content owner. So we’re trying to build those kinds of solutions that will let content owners invest, make great content, and profit from it online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the current iteration of SOPA, there was a manager’s amendment proferred that would clarify that the bill is not meant to target American web sites: Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter. How concerned are you that the slope would be slippery and that congress would say at some point we have to apply this to American companies as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fred von Lohmann\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are two ways in which the bills both on the House and Senate side continue to threaten American companies. Both bills would include American companies that operate web sites on so-called country-code top-level domains. Amazon.ca for Canada or eBay.co.uk for the UK, etc. The bills reach those domains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The other area is that there was a foundation put in place by congress in 1998 – the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, or DMCA. That law created the copyright foundation for all of the Internet companies that people enjoy. All of the Internet companies have been concerned that PIPA and SOPA might undermine that foundation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I want to bring in Ellen Seidler, a filmmaker based in the Bay Area, who has had some experience with Internet piracy affecting her. Tell me about the kind of work you do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ellen Seidler\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few years ago I was a partner in an independent film, self-financed. It was quite successful in the film festival circuit then we released it on DVD and legitimate online outlets. Within 24 hours it was online in illegal form.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I was aware piracy was going to be a problem, but what shocked me was the extent and how rapidly that one link multiplied into hundreds then thousands. We stopped counting. I’ve documented over 50,000 download links and streams to our film thus far.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The thing that surprised me most was not just that the film was being pirated, but what I saw as driving the piracy – which is the monetization of stolen content. It’s not the pirate bays of the world or the bit torrents, it’s the Cyberlockers and the business model that depends on stolen content.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With regard to Google, Mr. von Lohmann is talking about effort to cut off the money supply. But in the two years of dealing with this issue, every time I’ve approached Google about pirate web sits or ads by pirate web sites, they’ve done everything to avoid taking responsibility. They send DMCA notices to a web site called chillineffects.org, the implication that your DMCA notice is somehow chilling free speech, when the fact is that you as an artist are just asserting your legal rights. So I find it a little disingenuous to hear how concerned Google is about this when their ads the most prominent across the web.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Can you estimate how much you would have made from this film if it weren’t pirated?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ellen Seidler\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The film was quite successful; we screened it at more than 100 film festivals around the world. It was well received and very popular. But the bottom has dropped out out DVD sales. If we’d released it about 5 over 6 years ago we’d have no problem making our money back, but now that’s never going to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joshua Johnson\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fredrick von Lohmann of Google, what would you say to Ellen?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fredrick von Lohmann\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We of course are very sorry. However, we’ve been very clear, including with the takedown notices we’ve received from Ms. Seidler. We take that material down. If someone tells us there’s pirated content on a particular web page , we remove an ad from that page.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On our own intitiative, we’ve blocked more than 25,000 web pages from receiving our ads. We did that without receiving a complaint. We get complaints for copyright infringement for far less than 1% of the pages that show our ads, and when we do we immediately take those ads down.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Other good reads on the topic:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Some companies have threatened to \u003ca href=\"http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/google-amazon-twitter-and-facebook-consider-nuclear-blackout/14307\">go black\u003c/a> if the bill passes\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The Online News Association has \u003ca href=\"http://journalists.org/2012/01/05/ona-on-sopa/\">come out against the bill\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/02/business/media/the-danger-of-an-attack-on-piracy-online.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all\">David Carr’s\u003c/a> take from the NY Times\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A \u003ca href=\"http://mashable.com/follow/topics/stop-online-piracy-act/\">round up of resources\u003c/a> from Mashable\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/52162/the-online-privacy-debate","authors":["236"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_15","news_93","news_2204","news_2203"],"label":"news_6944"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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