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in response to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983701/sweeps-kill-bay-area-homeless-advocates-weigh-in-on-pivotal-u-s-supreme-court-case\">a Supreme Court case addressing how cities can respond to homelessness\u003c/a> to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/gaza\">protests, rallies and vigils drawing thousands of people around the region in support of a cease-fire in Gaza\u003c/a> — joining direct action taking place nationwide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Jump straight to: \u003ca href=\"#start\">Tips on what to have ready before going to a protest.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>These latest protests included \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982940/protesters-shut-down-880-freeway-in-oakland-as-part-of-economic-blockade-for-gaza\">a series of actions on April 15 that blocked I-880 in Oakland and the Golden Gate Bridge\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.berkeleyside.org/2024/04/22/uc-berkeley-protest-sit-in-gaza-war-cal-investments\">a sit-in at UC Berkeley\u003c/a>. These protests follow \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/columbia-yale-israel-palestinians-protests-56c3d9d0a278c15ed8e4132a75ea9599\">student protests at other universities, including Columbia and Yale\u003c/a>. (Read more about the decadeslong background from \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/series/1205445976/middle-east-crisis\">NPR in their ‘Middle East crisis — explained’ series\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965032\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11965032 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A young woman stands in front of a high school building. She looks away from the camera and has the Palestinian flag painted on her rigth cheek.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Deena, a high school student, participates in a walkout to demand a cease-fire in the Israel-Hamas war in San Francisco on Oct. 18, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco Bay Area has a long history of protest. But if you plan on attending a rally, how can you stay safe? What are your rights as a protester?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If this is the first time you or your friends will go to a protest, make sure to bookmark this guide, as our team frequently updates it with new information.[aside postID='news_11967439,news_11955465,news_11871364,news_11827832' label='Related Guides From KQED']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And remember: If you’re unable to join a rally or protest in person for whatever reason but want to make your stance on an issue known, you always have the option to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">contact your elected officials to express your opinions\u003c/a>. For more information on what “call your reps” actually means, how to do it, and what to expect as a result, read our explainer, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">How Can I Call My Representative? A Step-by-Step Guide to the Process\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"start\">\u003c/a>Have a plan — and then a backup plan\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There’s a lot you can do before a protest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Travel with friends\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Choose a meeting place beforehand in the event you get separated. You may also want to designate a friend who is not at the protest as someone you can check in with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Charge your phone. However, some activist groups also recommend taking digital security measures, such as disabling the fingerprint unlock feature to prevent a police officer from forcing you to unlock the phone. Others also recommend turning off text preview on messages and using a more secure messaging app, such as Signal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also, make sure that you can function without a phone. Consider writing down important phone numbers and keeping them with you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pack a small bag\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bring only essentials such as water, snacks, hand sanitizer and an extra phone charger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The active component in tear gas adheres to moisture on your face. So it’s also a good idea to pack an extra mask or face covering in case you are exposed to tear gas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people \u003ca href=\"https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-safely-and-legally-5859590\">recommend bringing basic medical supplies and a bandana soaked in vinegar\u003c/a> or \u003ca href=\"https://www.popsci.com/story/diy/tear-gas-guide/\">in water in a sealed plastic bag\u003c/a> in case there is tear gas. Others recommend a small bottle of water — or even better, a squirt bottle — to pour on your face and eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you get tear-gassed, it is often recommended to:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Close your eyes.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Hold your breath.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Get out of the area as soon as possible.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Rinse your eyes when possible (ideally using what you have packed with you).\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Research the intended protest route\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This may be confusing since there’s not always a clearly stated route (a protest is, or course, not a parade), but some protests have preplanned routes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By knowing where the protest is headed, you will be able to plan how you might \u003ca href=\"https://netpol.org/guide-to-kettles/\">avoid being caught in a “kettle”\u003c/a> or other containment method — and be able to leave when you are ready.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Know who is organizing the protest\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s worth doing some research on the people and groups behind any protest you plan to attend to make sure it’s in alignment with your values and objectives. During certain Black Lives Matter protests in San Diego in June 2020, for instance, organizers warned demonstrators to avoid specific events they said likely had been surreptitiously coordinated by white nationalist groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Know your rights\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>You are entitled to free speech and freedom of assembly. However, your rights can be unclear during curfews and shelter-in-place orders. The American Civil Liberties Union has a \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights/#i-want-to-take-pictures-or-shoot-video-at-a-protest\">detailed guide to your rights as a protester or a protest organizer\u003c/a>. Notably, when police issue an order to disperse, it is meant to be the last resort for law enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If officers issue a dispersal order, they must provide a reasonable opportunity to comply, including sufficient time and a clear, unobstructed exit path,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights/#i-want-to-take-pictures-or-shoot-video-at-a-protest\">according to the ACLU\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11955465/dolores-hill-bomb-legal-rights-spectator-onlooker\">Read our guide to your rights as a spectator.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you are photographing others, it is recommended to respect privacy, as some may not want to have videos or photos taken. This may also depend on context, location and time of day. In some cases journalists, or those documenting events, have been the target of tear gas and rubber bullets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#tellus\">Tell us: What else do you need information about right now?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>The First Amendment gives you the right to film police who are actively performing their duties, and bystander videos can provide important counternarratives to official accounts. Read our \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871364/recording-the-police-what-to-know-and-how-to-stay-safe-doing-it\">guide to filming encounters with the police safely and ethically\u003c/a> and where to share your footage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additional information can be found from the ACLU and the National Lawyers Guild — the NLG has \u003ca href=\"https://www.nlg.org/know-your-rights/\">pocket-sized know-your-rights guides\u003c/a> in multiple languages. Writing the number for the NLG hotline (and other important numbers such as emergency contacts) on your arm in case you lose your phone or have it confiscated is another suggested way to ensure you have it — should you need it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11958935\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11958935\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A large crowd with signs gathers in front of a large stone building. A line of police officers stands nearby.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters, counter-protesters, and SFPD are seen at a rally in front of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco on Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023. The court is hearing arguments for the city’s appeal of an injunction filed by the Coalition on Homelessness, which has temporarily kept city workers from removing encampments on the streets. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Be aware of your surroundings\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the first few days of George Floyd protests in the Bay Area in June 2020, there were fireworks, fires, rubber bullets, tear gas, flash-bangs and even some gunshots. Being aware of your surroundings includes having an understanding of what possible actions may occur around you.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Know the possible law enforcement ramifications of attending a protest\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>On April 17, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins announced that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983413/could-protesters-who-shut-down-golden-gate-bridge-be-charged-with-false-imprisonment\">she was considering charging a group of pro-Palestinian protesters\u003c/a> with a felony for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982940/protesters-shut-down-880-freeway-in-oakland-as-part-of-economic-blockade-for-gaza\">blocking Bay Area freeways\u003c/a>. People who were stuck in traffic on the bridge, Jenkins \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983413/could-protesters-who-shut-down-golden-gate-bridge-be-charged-with-false-imprisonment\">wrote on X\u003c/a>, “may be entitled to restitution + have other victim rights guaranteed under Marsy’s law.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ACLU Northern California’s legal director, Shilpi Agarwal said she found the move by Jenkins had the potential to cast a “chilling effect” on speech in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Lawful protests are, by design, meant to be visible and inconvenient,” Agarwal said. And while the government can place “reasonable limits on protest” in what is called \u003ca href=\"https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/time-place-and-manner-restrictions/\">a “time, place, and manner restriction\u003c/a>” — meaning authorities can call for certain parameters of protest for safety or other people using the space — the government may \u003ci>not \u003c/i>tell people they cannot protest. And in public spaces, Agarwal said, “people are allowed to protest.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What kinds of law enforcement charges could protesters face, however? Agarwal said while \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunc.org/our-work/know-your-rights\">charges for protests can be nuanced\u003c/a>, at a basic level, if you are engaged in a protest and encounter police officers who then determine for “some reason” you have violated the “parameters” of the protest, there are usually three charging options available to officers:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>An infraction: typically a ticket where you show your ID, get a citation and may have to appear in court. Usually, an infraction is just a fine to pay.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A misdemeanor: for which “you rarely serve” jail time for low-level offenses, Agarwal said.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A felony: A more serious criminal charge that usually brings jail time.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Agarwal said the “vast majority of offenses that are commonly charged at protests, when the police do get involved, are typically infractions or misdemeanors.” Common provisions for protesters have been something like resisting arrest, disrupting a public meeting, and failing to disperse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Center for Protest Law and Litigation’s senior counsel, Rachel Lederman, said restitution is common in criminal cases, adding that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967536/protesters-calling-for-gaza-ceasefire-block-bay-bridges-westbound-lanes\">pro-Palestinian protesters who blocked the Bay Bridge\u003c/a> in November 2023 are currently paying “a very small amount of restitution to one person who had a specific medical bill, that they attributed to the traffic blockage.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On April 22, California State Assemblymember Kate Sanchez introduced \u003ca href=\"https://www.courthousenews.com/california-bill-would-create-new-infraction-for-protesters-who-block-highways/\">a bill before the Assembly Transportation Committee\u003c/a> that would create a new infraction for those who obstruct a highway during a protest that affects an emergency vehicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill proposes a fine of between $200 and $500 for the first offense, $300 and $1000 for the second offense and $500 to $1000 for additional offenses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Reminder: Your rights are at their highest in a public forum\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When considering your rights, take into account the location where a protest may take place — it could be a campus, a city council meeting, or a usually busy road. And Agarwal said that while the law is complicated and can vary in different situations, First Amendment rights are generally “at their highest when something is a public forum” — that is, a place like a sidewalk or a public plaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aside from the \u003ca href=\"https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/time-place-and-manner-restrictions/\">time, place, and manner restriction\u003c/a>, “when you have a public forum, there is very, very little that the government can do to regulate your speech,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Conversely, First Amendment rights are at their lowest at places like private homes, Agarwal said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It doesn’t mean that you have no rights, but it does mean that whenever and wherever you are on something that is not a public forum, the strength of your First Amendment rights starts to wane,” she said. “And the government can do more to regulate what you can and cannot say.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Remember there are many ways to protest\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>As the disability community continues to remind others, there are many ways to show up. We are still in a pandemic, and you may need to weigh the risks and goals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can participate in many meaningful ways that don’t include attending an in-person protest or rally. This could include educating yourself, voting, talking to your community and supporting grassroots organizations, as outlined in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13881199/5-ways-to-show-up-for-racial-justice-today\">this 2020 guide from KQED’s Nastia Voynovskaya\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can also \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">contact your elected officials to express your opinions\u003c/a>. For more information on what “call your reps” actually means, read our explainer, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">How Can I Call My Representative? A Step-by-Step Guide to the Process\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>COVID is still with us: What to know about your possible risks attending a protest\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The good news: Your risks of getting COVID-19 outdoors remain far lower than your risks indoors — about 20 times less, said Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, professor of medicine and infectious disease specialist at UCSF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also, being vaccinated and boosted will greatly reduce your risks of getting very sick, being hospitalized or dying from COVID-19. If you’re not yet boosted, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11960630/free-new-covid-vaccine-near-me-2023\">find the new COVID-19 vaccine shot near you\u003c/a>. If you’re bringing children to a protest with you, remember that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11917289/covid-vaccines-for-kids-under-5-are-here-heres-how-to-find-one\">kids and babies aged 6 months and over can get their primary COVID-19 vaccine series\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But you should still think about your risks of getting (or spreading) COVID-19 at a big event full of people, even when you’re outdoors. As with so many decisions during the pandemic, a lot comes down to your personal risks and circumstances — not just to protect yourself but others, too. “I think it requires people to be thoughtful about who they are, who they live with, and what happens when they leave the protest and go back home,” Chin-Hong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Consider bringing a mask along regardless\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not only the number of people you’ll encounter at a protest — it’s what they might be \u003cem>doing\u003c/em>. Even outside, screaming, chanting, coughing and singing all expel more of the particles that can spread COVID-19 than regular activity does, and you may decide to keep your mask on during a protest if it’s a super-crowded space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You might also find that some protest organizers explicitly request you wear a mask and maintain social distancing at the event, especially if the event is being attended by groups or communities at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s also the possibility that you might not \u003cem>stay\u003c/em> outside the whole time. “Whenever you have a protest, nobody just stays necessarily outdoors,” Chin-Hong said, giving pre-protest gatherings and meetings or post-protest dinners as examples.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These may be done in people’s homes. I think it’s the stuff that goes around the actual outdoor protest that I’m more worried about,” Chin-Hong said. He recommends that people “think about carrying a mask with them, like they carry an umbrella. So that they just bring out the ‘umbrella’ when it’s potentially ‘raining with COVID\u003ci>.\u003c/i>‘”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965077\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1020px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11965077\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS43804_GettyImages-1244191840-1-qut-1020x680-1.jpg\" alt=\"A large crowed with signs crowds around a building that has been fenced off. Many are pushing against the fence and others are carrying signs. Almost all are wearing facemasks.\" width=\"1020\" height=\"680\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS43804_GettyImages-1244191840-1-qut-1020x680-1.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS43804_GettyImages-1244191840-1-qut-1020x680-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS43804_GettyImages-1244191840-1-qut-1020x680-1-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1020px) 100vw, 1020px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters take a knee during a demonstration outside of Mission Police Station to honor of George Floyd on June 3, 2020, in San Francisco. Three years since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, it is still common to see people wearing facemasks at protests to protect themselves from a possible coronavirus infection.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Back in 2021, Chin-Hong told KQED that protests against racist violence and the killing of Black people by police were themselves “a response to a public health threat, if you think about the impact of structural racism and stress on health care.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, when it comes to weighing the desire to protest a cause with the risks of getting or spreading COVID-19, “I think the benefits of protesting are even more in favor of protesting now,” Chin-Hong told KQED in 2022. That “risk/benefit calculus,” as he puts it, is even more in favor of attending a rally — “because we have so many tools to keep people safer,” from vaccines and boosters to improved COVID-19 treatment if someone \u003cem>is\u003c/em> hospitalized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story includes reporting from KQED’s Lakshmi Sarah, Lisa Pickoff-White, Carly Severn and Nisa Khan. Beth LaBerge and \u003c/em>\u003cem>Peter Arcuni also contributed. A version of this story originally published on April 23, 2021.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"tellus\">\u003c/a>Tell us: What else do you need information about?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At KQED News, we know that it can sometimes be hard to track down the answers to navigate life in the Bay Area. We’ve published \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/coronavirus-resources-and-explainers\">clear, helpful explainers and guides about issues like COVID-19\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11936674/how-to-prepare-for-this-weeks-atmospheric-river-storm-sandbags-emergency-kits-and-more\">how to cope with intense winter weather\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821950/how-to-safely-attend-a-protest-in-the-bay-area\">how to exercise your right to protest safely\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So tell us: What do you need to know more about? Tell us, and you could see your question answered online or on social media. What you submit will make our reporting stronger, and help us decide what to cover here on our site, and on KQED Public Radio, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[hearken id=\"10483\" src=\"https://modules.wearehearken.com/kqed/embed/10483.js\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Here are some tips on safety and preparation, should you choose to participate in a protest about a cause you care about.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1713995948,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":true,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":61,"wordCount":2709},"headData":{"title":"How to Attend a Rally Safely in the Bay Area: Your Rights, Protections and the Police | KQED","description":"Here are some tips on safety and preparation, should you choose to participate in a protest about a cause you care about.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"How to Attend a Rally Safely in the Bay Area: Your Rights, Protections and the Police","datePublished":"2024-04-23T21:25:59.000Z","dateModified":"2024-04-24T21:59:08.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"source":"News","sourceUrl":"http://kqed.org/news","sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11821950/how-to-safely-attend-a-protest-in-the-bay-area","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ci data-stringify-type=\"italic\">This story was originally published on June 24, 2022, and was last updated at 3 p.m. Wednesday, April 24.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Months into 2024, the Bay Area has seen many passionate demonstrations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These range from students \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11971577/berkeleys-peoples-park-cleared-by-police-7-arrested\">opposing construction replacing People’s Park in Berkeley\u003c/a> and a march in response to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983701/sweeps-kill-bay-area-homeless-advocates-weigh-in-on-pivotal-u-s-supreme-court-case\">a Supreme Court case addressing how cities can respond to homelessness\u003c/a> to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/gaza\">protests, rallies and vigils drawing thousands of people around the region in support of a cease-fire in Gaza\u003c/a> — joining direct action taking place nationwide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Jump straight to: \u003ca href=\"#start\">Tips on what to have ready before going to a protest.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>These latest protests included \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982940/protesters-shut-down-880-freeway-in-oakland-as-part-of-economic-blockade-for-gaza\">a series of actions on April 15 that blocked I-880 in Oakland and the Golden Gate Bridge\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.berkeleyside.org/2024/04/22/uc-berkeley-protest-sit-in-gaza-war-cal-investments\">a sit-in at UC Berkeley\u003c/a>. These protests follow \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/columbia-yale-israel-palestinians-protests-56c3d9d0a278c15ed8e4132a75ea9599\">student protests at other universities, including Columbia and Yale\u003c/a>. (Read more about the decadeslong background from \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/series/1205445976/middle-east-crisis\">NPR in their ‘Middle East crisis — explained’ series\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965032\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11965032 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A young woman stands in front of a high school building. She looks away from the camera and has the Palestinian flag painted on her rigth cheek.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/231018-StudentWalkoutGaza-011-BL-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Deena, a high school student, participates in a walkout to demand a cease-fire in the Israel-Hamas war in San Francisco on Oct. 18, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco Bay Area has a long history of protest. But if you plan on attending a rally, how can you stay safe? What are your rights as a protester?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If this is the first time you or your friends will go to a protest, make sure to bookmark this guide, as our team frequently updates it with new information.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11967439,news_11955465,news_11871364,news_11827832","label":"Related Guides From KQED "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And remember: If you’re unable to join a rally or protest in person for whatever reason but want to make your stance on an issue known, you always have the option to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">contact your elected officials to express your opinions\u003c/a>. For more information on what “call your reps” actually means, how to do it, and what to expect as a result, read our explainer, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">How Can I Call My Representative? A Step-by-Step Guide to the Process\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"start\">\u003c/a>Have a plan — and then a backup plan\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There’s a lot you can do before a protest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Travel with friends\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Choose a meeting place beforehand in the event you get separated. You may also want to designate a friend who is not at the protest as someone you can check in with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Charge your phone. However, some activist groups also recommend taking digital security measures, such as disabling the fingerprint unlock feature to prevent a police officer from forcing you to unlock the phone. Others also recommend turning off text preview on messages and using a more secure messaging app, such as Signal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also, make sure that you can function without a phone. Consider writing down important phone numbers and keeping them with you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pack a small bag\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bring only essentials such as water, snacks, hand sanitizer and an extra phone charger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The active component in tear gas adheres to moisture on your face. So it’s also a good idea to pack an extra mask or face covering in case you are exposed to tear gas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people \u003ca href=\"https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-safely-and-legally-5859590\">recommend bringing basic medical supplies and a bandana soaked in vinegar\u003c/a> or \u003ca href=\"https://www.popsci.com/story/diy/tear-gas-guide/\">in water in a sealed plastic bag\u003c/a> in case there is tear gas. Others recommend a small bottle of water — or even better, a squirt bottle — to pour on your face and eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you get tear-gassed, it is often recommended to:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Close your eyes.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Hold your breath.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Get out of the area as soon as possible.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Rinse your eyes when possible (ideally using what you have packed with you).\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Research the intended protest route\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This may be confusing since there’s not always a clearly stated route (a protest is, or course, not a parade), but some protests have preplanned routes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By knowing where the protest is headed, you will be able to plan how you might \u003ca href=\"https://netpol.org/guide-to-kettles/\">avoid being caught in a “kettle”\u003c/a> or other containment method — and be able to leave when you are ready.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Know who is organizing the protest\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s worth doing some research on the people and groups behind any protest you plan to attend to make sure it’s in alignment with your values and objectives. During certain Black Lives Matter protests in San Diego in June 2020, for instance, organizers warned demonstrators to avoid specific events they said likely had been surreptitiously coordinated by white nationalist groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Know your rights\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>You are entitled to free speech and freedom of assembly. However, your rights can be unclear during curfews and shelter-in-place orders. The American Civil Liberties Union has a \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights/#i-want-to-take-pictures-or-shoot-video-at-a-protest\">detailed guide to your rights as a protester or a protest organizer\u003c/a>. Notably, when police issue an order to disperse, it is meant to be the last resort for law enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If officers issue a dispersal order, they must provide a reasonable opportunity to comply, including sufficient time and a clear, unobstructed exit path,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights/#i-want-to-take-pictures-or-shoot-video-at-a-protest\">according to the ACLU\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11955465/dolores-hill-bomb-legal-rights-spectator-onlooker\">Read our guide to your rights as a spectator.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you are photographing others, it is recommended to respect privacy, as some may not want to have videos or photos taken. This may also depend on context, location and time of day. In some cases journalists, or those documenting events, have been the target of tear gas and rubber bullets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#tellus\">Tell us: What else do you need information about right now?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>The First Amendment gives you the right to film police who are actively performing their duties, and bystander videos can provide important counternarratives to official accounts. Read our \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871364/recording-the-police-what-to-know-and-how-to-stay-safe-doing-it\">guide to filming encounters with the police safely and ethically\u003c/a> and where to share your footage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additional information can be found from the ACLU and the National Lawyers Guild — the NLG has \u003ca href=\"https://www.nlg.org/know-your-rights/\">pocket-sized know-your-rights guides\u003c/a> in multiple languages. Writing the number for the NLG hotline (and other important numbers such as emergency contacts) on your arm in case you lose your phone or have it confiscated is another suggested way to ensure you have it — should you need it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11958935\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11958935\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A large crowd with signs gathers in front of a large stone building. A line of police officers stands nearby.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/RS68263_20230822-HomelessLawsuit-17-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters, counter-protesters, and SFPD are seen at a rally in front of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco on Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2023. The court is hearing arguments for the city’s appeal of an injunction filed by the Coalition on Homelessness, which has temporarily kept city workers from removing encampments on the streets. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Be aware of your surroundings\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the first few days of George Floyd protests in the Bay Area in June 2020, there were fireworks, fires, rubber bullets, tear gas, flash-bangs and even some gunshots. Being aware of your surroundings includes having an understanding of what possible actions may occur around you.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Know the possible law enforcement ramifications of attending a protest\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>On April 17, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins announced that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983413/could-protesters-who-shut-down-golden-gate-bridge-be-charged-with-false-imprisonment\">she was considering charging a group of pro-Palestinian protesters\u003c/a> with a felony for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982940/protesters-shut-down-880-freeway-in-oakland-as-part-of-economic-blockade-for-gaza\">blocking Bay Area freeways\u003c/a>. People who were stuck in traffic on the bridge, Jenkins \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983413/could-protesters-who-shut-down-golden-gate-bridge-be-charged-with-false-imprisonment\">wrote on X\u003c/a>, “may be entitled to restitution + have other victim rights guaranteed under Marsy’s law.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ACLU Northern California’s legal director, Shilpi Agarwal said she found the move by Jenkins had the potential to cast a “chilling effect” on speech in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Lawful protests are, by design, meant to be visible and inconvenient,” Agarwal said. And while the government can place “reasonable limits on protest” in what is called \u003ca href=\"https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/time-place-and-manner-restrictions/\">a “time, place, and manner restriction\u003c/a>” — meaning authorities can call for certain parameters of protest for safety or other people using the space — the government may \u003ci>not \u003c/i>tell people they cannot protest. And in public spaces, Agarwal said, “people are allowed to protest.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What kinds of law enforcement charges could protesters face, however? Agarwal said while \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunc.org/our-work/know-your-rights\">charges for protests can be nuanced\u003c/a>, at a basic level, if you are engaged in a protest and encounter police officers who then determine for “some reason” you have violated the “parameters” of the protest, there are usually three charging options available to officers:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>An infraction: typically a ticket where you show your ID, get a citation and may have to appear in court. Usually, an infraction is just a fine to pay.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A misdemeanor: for which “you rarely serve” jail time for low-level offenses, Agarwal said.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A felony: A more serious criminal charge that usually brings jail time.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Agarwal said the “vast majority of offenses that are commonly charged at protests, when the police do get involved, are typically infractions or misdemeanors.” Common provisions for protesters have been something like resisting arrest, disrupting a public meeting, and failing to disperse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Center for Protest Law and Litigation’s senior counsel, Rachel Lederman, said restitution is common in criminal cases, adding that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967536/protesters-calling-for-gaza-ceasefire-block-bay-bridges-westbound-lanes\">pro-Palestinian protesters who blocked the Bay Bridge\u003c/a> in November 2023 are currently paying “a very small amount of restitution to one person who had a specific medical bill, that they attributed to the traffic blockage.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On April 22, California State Assemblymember Kate Sanchez introduced \u003ca href=\"https://www.courthousenews.com/california-bill-would-create-new-infraction-for-protesters-who-block-highways/\">a bill before the Assembly Transportation Committee\u003c/a> that would create a new infraction for those who obstruct a highway during a protest that affects an emergency vehicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill proposes a fine of between $200 and $500 for the first offense, $300 and $1000 for the second offense and $500 to $1000 for additional offenses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Reminder: Your rights are at their highest in a public forum\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When considering your rights, take into account the location where a protest may take place — it could be a campus, a city council meeting, or a usually busy road. And Agarwal said that while the law is complicated and can vary in different situations, First Amendment rights are generally “at their highest when something is a public forum” — that is, a place like a sidewalk or a public plaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aside from the \u003ca href=\"https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/time-place-and-manner-restrictions/\">time, place, and manner restriction\u003c/a>, “when you have a public forum, there is very, very little that the government can do to regulate your speech,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Conversely, First Amendment rights are at their lowest at places like private homes, Agarwal said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It doesn’t mean that you have no rights, but it does mean that whenever and wherever you are on something that is not a public forum, the strength of your First Amendment rights starts to wane,” she said. “And the government can do more to regulate what you can and cannot say.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Remember there are many ways to protest\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>As the disability community continues to remind others, there are many ways to show up. We are still in a pandemic, and you may need to weigh the risks and goals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can participate in many meaningful ways that don’t include attending an in-person protest or rally. This could include educating yourself, voting, talking to your community and supporting grassroots organizations, as outlined in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13881199/5-ways-to-show-up-for-racial-justice-today\">this 2020 guide from KQED’s Nastia Voynovskaya\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can also \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">contact your elected officials to express your opinions\u003c/a>. For more information on what “call your reps” actually means, read our explainer, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">How Can I Call My Representative? A Step-by-Step Guide to the Process\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>COVID is still with us: What to know about your possible risks attending a protest\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The good news: Your risks of getting COVID-19 outdoors remain far lower than your risks indoors — about 20 times less, said Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, professor of medicine and infectious disease specialist at UCSF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also, being vaccinated and boosted will greatly reduce your risks of getting very sick, being hospitalized or dying from COVID-19. If you’re not yet boosted, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11960630/free-new-covid-vaccine-near-me-2023\">find the new COVID-19 vaccine shot near you\u003c/a>. If you’re bringing children to a protest with you, remember that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11917289/covid-vaccines-for-kids-under-5-are-here-heres-how-to-find-one\">kids and babies aged 6 months and over can get their primary COVID-19 vaccine series\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But you should still think about your risks of getting (or spreading) COVID-19 at a big event full of people, even when you’re outdoors. As with so many decisions during the pandemic, a lot comes down to your personal risks and circumstances — not just to protect yourself but others, too. “I think it requires people to be thoughtful about who they are, who they live with, and what happens when they leave the protest and go back home,” Chin-Hong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Consider bringing a mask along regardless\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not only the number of people you’ll encounter at a protest — it’s what they might be \u003cem>doing\u003c/em>. Even outside, screaming, chanting, coughing and singing all expel more of the particles that can spread COVID-19 than regular activity does, and you may decide to keep your mask on during a protest if it’s a super-crowded space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You might also find that some protest organizers explicitly request you wear a mask and maintain social distancing at the event, especially if the event is being attended by groups or communities at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s also the possibility that you might not \u003cem>stay\u003c/em> outside the whole time. “Whenever you have a protest, nobody just stays necessarily outdoors,” Chin-Hong said, giving pre-protest gatherings and meetings or post-protest dinners as examples.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These may be done in people’s homes. I think it’s the stuff that goes around the actual outdoor protest that I’m more worried about,” Chin-Hong said. He recommends that people “think about carrying a mask with them, like they carry an umbrella. So that they just bring out the ‘umbrella’ when it’s potentially ‘raining with COVID\u003ci>.\u003c/i>‘”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965077\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1020px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11965077\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS43804_GettyImages-1244191840-1-qut-1020x680-1.jpg\" alt=\"A large crowed with signs crowds around a building that has been fenced off. Many are pushing against the fence and others are carrying signs. Almost all are wearing facemasks.\" width=\"1020\" height=\"680\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS43804_GettyImages-1244191840-1-qut-1020x680-1.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS43804_GettyImages-1244191840-1-qut-1020x680-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS43804_GettyImages-1244191840-1-qut-1020x680-1-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1020px) 100vw, 1020px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters take a knee during a demonstration outside of Mission Police Station to honor of George Floyd on June 3, 2020, in San Francisco. Three years since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, it is still common to see people wearing facemasks at protests to protect themselves from a possible coronavirus infection.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Back in 2021, Chin-Hong told KQED that protests against racist violence and the killing of Black people by police were themselves “a response to a public health threat, if you think about the impact of structural racism and stress on health care.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, when it comes to weighing the desire to protest a cause with the risks of getting or spreading COVID-19, “I think the benefits of protesting are even more in favor of protesting now,” Chin-Hong told KQED in 2022. 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The region’s health care infrastructure has been decimated, as a mere 12 of Gaza’s 36 hospitals are considered operational. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dr. Mohammad Subeh, an emergency room physician from the South Bay, recently returned from a volunteer medical mission to the city of Rafah in southern Gaza. In this episode, he talks about why he went, what he saw, and the people he met.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC5444138415&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence. Please take care while listening. I’m Alan Montecillo in for Ericka Cruz Guevarra. And welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. An estimated 33,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel’s bombardment and invasion of Gaza. At least 13,000 have been children. The Israeli military’s attack on Gaza has also decimated the region’s health care system and put aid workers in danger. An estimated 12 out of 36 hospitals are currently operational. On Monday, Israeli forces completed a two week raid on Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, claiming it had served as a base for Hamas militants. That same day, seven aid workers with World Central Kitchen were killed by an Israeli airstrike. Right now, the need for any help is dire. And despite this recent news, there are still volunteers who are putting themselves in harm’s way to provide food and medical assistance. One of them came from right here in the Bay area. Dr. Mohammad Subeh Is an emergency room doctor in the South Bay, and in February he went to the city of Rafah for a five week volunteer medical mission. Today, I sit down with Doctor Suba to talk about why he went to Gaza and what he wants all of us to know about what he saw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>My name is Mohammad Subeh. I’m an emergency physician. I was born to a family that was forcibly displaced from Palestine and a village called the lid in 1948. So they sought refuge in the small country of Kuwait, where I was born in 1984. And I lived, the first six years of my life in Kuwait. As a Palestinian born in Kuwait. You’re not a citizen of Kuwait. So I always held this a travel document that said I was stateless. And so in 1990, when Iraq invaded Kuwait, we try to ride out the war for almost two months before we had to abruptly leave as my father was going to be killed. And that was from an early age, my first exposure to war, death, destruction. When we left Kuwait, we came to the United States as refugees. And that in and of itself was a life changing experience. I grew up in Los Angeles and, rougher area of Los Angeles and, in the 90s, surrounded by gang violence, surrounded by really tough living conditions. My elementary school wasn’t too far from our apartment, and very frequently I would hear choppers, you know, police helicopters overhead with the floodlights, looking for people, but also a different sound for the LA County medevac helicopters that would come and land in our elementary school field to pick up trauma patients. And so any time I would hear that from the distance, I would just take off and just run towards the field and just watch the helicopter land and pick up a patient. And I was always very, very much in awe of the team that was working on the helicopter. And I said, you know, I want to do that. I remember at a young age, just looking up at the sky and thinking, you know, what am I doing here? Why did I go through all those difficult moments, you know, at a young age? I just remember kind of really shaping my foundation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982074\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11982074\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dr.Mohammed Subeh takes a selfie with children at the field hospital where he volunteered in Gaza. (Photo credit: Dr. Mohammed Subeh)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>And so what was your path from? From that to the Bay area?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>There was a big light switch that turned on for me. I actually wasn’t very, didn’t do well academically in elementary school because I was just so again, I was very confused about what was happening in my life. And so high school for me was very different. It was all about not only doing well academically and learning as much as I can, but also putting my values into action. I was lucky in my final year to be mentored by an ER local ER physician from the Bay area. That was my first exposure to the Bay area and led me to apply to Stanford, where I did the majority of my education, undergrad and grad school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>And now you live in the South Bay and, you have a family of your own now, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Yeah, yeah. So we live in Saratoga. My wife and I and our two boys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>When did you decide that you wanted to go to Gaza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>So I have family in Gaza, aunts, cousins, their children, and we talk on a monthly basis. And you kind of understand what the health care infrastructure looked like, just that baseline, which is not that great, especially under the nearly two decades siege. Because, so our conversation was around like, how can we help? Like, what can we do? Even if it’s a small minute thing that, you know, some way we can move the needle and then you kind of fast forward to, October of last year and the health care infrastructure started, being decimated. You know, from day one. And I remember the first week my wife, I was in an E.R. shift, and my wife sent me a message and said, hey, you should really look into these potential hospital ships that are they’re thinking of sending over to Gaza to serve the people. One. It sent me the message that we’re all on board as a family. Like, we got to go do this. And second, it made me really be much more active in trying to pursue whatever medical mission that’s going to allow me to go there and serve the people in Russia. Once that opportunity came to me, I definitely there was no hesitation. I took it on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Were you afraid before you left?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Do you mean it? Was I afraid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>For your own safety?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>My own safety? I never let that paralyze my decision making. From a young age, my parents always taught us. We’re all going to die one day. Every human being is going to die. We don’t know when, where, how, but we’re going to die. And you can’t let that fear of death paralyze your ability to share the gifts that God has given you to the world. And it’s our responsibility to not only be aware of those gifts and nurture those gifts, but also make sure that they’re put into action and bring bring about a better world around us. And so that was always front and center for me and my decision to go to Gaza. My biggest fear actually was my biggest worry was making sure I tied up any loose ends. We actually my family runs a coffee roaster in the South Bay as well. And I roast for, you know, roast coffee on my in my time and your abundant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Free time from your regular job as an air doctor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>But it was, it’s actually one of the things that brings me a lot of fulfillment, because it was, a project that my son, my son and I started together. So kind of going back to your question, the fear was really around making sure, you know, my absence did not, hinder any operation I was leaving behind. And, to me, fearing that I would be a burden on the system, that I go there and be a burden on the people there, and I never wanted that to happen. Death injury never was really front and center for me and, intentionally did not let it be because, yes, there I always had that risk. Right. And it’s a real risk. But we still have to do our part. And that’s what led me to, you know, move on and keep going on this medical mission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>What was your journey into Gaza like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>I flew into Cairo like everyone, and the only way into Gaza right now is through Rafah, which is on the southern part of the Gaza Strip. As you’re approaching the Rafah crossing. There are miles upon miles of trucks that are parked there waiting to be let in. As soon as you get out of the vehicle and go into the, Egyptian side of the border. You start hearing these drones above your head, not too far away. And these drones are in the form of these reconnaissance planes that are obtaining information of what’s happening on the ground, also outfitted with missiles and quadcopters, which are drones that are outfitted with machine guns. And you kind of constantly hear that, kind of like this annoying hornet that is buzzing around your head, and that doesn’t stop until you exit. That’s constantly there. After going through the process of entering into my first drive through the encampments, you feel like you’ve entered this apocalyptic horror movie. It’s like, is this really 2024? Is this earth right now? People were just with torn up clothes, no shoes dirty, no access to clean water, trying to just look through trash. You have people building fires so they can provide heating for their families or cook something, whatever they have access to. And, you start hearing missile strike after missile strike, and it’s just shakes the whole vehicle. For me, it was very startling. It took me almost a week to actually kind of drown out the missile strikes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Do you remember the first person you met when you finally got there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>My first encounter with a Palestinian. Was this older gentleman. Torn up clothes. The sandals were torn up and he approached me smiling. And he handed me two cookies that he had. And he said, I want you to have this. And I said, I was so bewildered. I was like this gentleman who I know doesn’t have much. He’s giving me two cookies that he has. And I said, no, Hummel, I’m going. Arabic means uncle. I know I’m not. You know, I don’t need this, you know, keep it for for yourself. And he said, no, I want you to have this. I’m so happy you’re here. Thank you for being here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Coming up. What life was like at the field hospital. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>What was your first day and where were you based?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>My first day in Toronto was the 14th, February. I was based in Russia, so we set up a field hospital. You know, we go to a plot of land, and we set up tents, and we try to operate out of those tents to see patients and offer different services depending on what we can offer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Once you’re there and you’re seeing patients. What was a regular day like for you? Was there such a thing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>There was no normal day. There was no like, this is how my day looked like. I was at the field hospital 24 seven. I would start off at 430 or 5 a.m. and, I will start my day with journaling. I would journal every day because I had to get my emotions, my thoughts down on paper A to allow me to be able to function. We set up the hospital in January and anticipated about 40 to 50 patients that we’d see on a daily basis. The week I left, we were seeing up to 1000 patients a day, and we found that we needed to really offer all different types of services, many of which we really didn’t have access to or we couldn’t do at 100%. You know, things as basic as rubbing alcohol. For a long time, we did not have. When we did end up getting rubbing alcohol, we had to dilute it from 70% to 7% to make it last as long as possible, because we didn’t know when anymore would be allowed in. We had no access to ventilators, so ventilators are very important for our patients coming in with respiratory distress, respiratory failure. And so we had no means to intubate a patient to put them on a breathing machine, because we had no breathing machines. We actually had very little supplemental oxygen. Medications were very sparse. Sometimes we had antibiotics. Sometimes we didn’t. How many times we didn’t have Tylenol? Ibuprofen. So you have children coming in with febrile seizures. You have no way to bring down their their temperature. Anesthetics, pain medicines. We were doing for a long time major procedures with just ketamine. Ketamine is a medicine that dissociates the mind from the body. And we’re opening people’s chests, their abdomens, resetting intestines, resetting their spleens, all with ketamine. I remember that there was a seven year old girl, eight year old girl named Reema, who had been shot outside of her tent as she was playing outside of her tent. And we had to, she had to undergo, major surgery, open up her abdomen, take out a large portion of her intestines that was injured, repair her urinary bladder. I remember that night after the surgery, she was in excruciating pain, screaming, crying. We had no pain medicines for her. I you know, I would see patients also with medical emergencies. Just things we would see here strokes, heart attacks and not be able to do anything because there are no medications or supplies. There’s no nothing to do for them unfortunately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Where most of your patients. Children, elders. Whole range?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>I would say, so about 70% of our cases were trauma patients. The rest were medical emergencies. And, you know, things, people coming in with strokes, sepsis, heart attack. Of the 70%. A large majority were children. Over half were children coming in with shrapnel injuries, gunshot wounds mangled, extremities dead. I never imagined seeing so many dead children in front of me. Mothers, family members, screaming, crying. There was so much that I was seeing that I was not used to, I wasn’t prepared to see. You know, I would get these mule drawn carriages bringing me, piles of bodies that I had to go through and figure out. Is there any life left in this body? And I have to put them in body bags. Many of these bodies would come to me like a half skull with a spine, torso, intestines, and have to put those in a body bag and prepare for burial. That’s not something we’ve ever been trained to do. Yet that was a daily, experience for me in Russia. And go. You go through a lot of emotions while they’re on the ground, but it became very frustrating after witnessing and seeing the miles upon miles of a trucks just a few miles away, those trucks holding all the supplies and medications that we could save these people’s lives and do no harm is our main motto in medicine. And, yet we weren’t able to provide that basic care. There is no no, like, one flavor of the day for all of us. The only constant for me was, aside from the atrocities I was seeing, was the steadfastness of the Palestinian people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Are there any specific people you met or moments of joy, I suppose. Amid all the suffering that still stick with you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>So many people. I think the one that just comes to mind automatically for me right now is, a young boy named Ennis. And this is seven years old. He witnessed his entire family being killed. His only surviving family members is uncle, who is about 30 years old, and niece, is one of the children we housed in our field hospital. As he awaits, evacuation for definitive treatment of his shattered tibia, his shinbone. And, and this is like an old soul. He would always talk to me, and I would talk to him if he had so much wisdom. And he, carried himself in such a different way than any other child I interacted with. And he would always bring a smile to my face. He would call me always Doctor Mohammad. Doctor Mohammad, come. Come sit with me. Let’s talk or communicate with me at the end of the day. And it always would fill up my bucket. There is a night where a young boy had come in and found out that his cousin, who was his best friend, had been killed. And this young boy’s name is Maher, 11 years old, and he was just so distraught, crying and crying. And he said, why? Why did they have to kill Faizan? He’s my best friend. I loved Faisal so much. Why did they have to kill him? Anything I would say or do like didn’t seem sufficient to console him. I hugged him and I would tell him, you know, it’s okay. He’s he’s in gender. He’s in heaven. You know, I took him outside. We were walking around the field hospital and as he was crying, some of these children were housed on their crutches and walkers kind of come over quickly and they say, what’s what’s going on? Why is he crying? And I say, you know, Matt had just found out his cousin was killed, and they all hugged him and they consoled him and said, it’s okay. Alhamdulillah, Alhamdulillah. Show gratitude. And one of the young boys said to him, you know, in the Koran, Allah tells us that the believers and the patient ones are the ones that when they’re tried with difficult times, say in Elohim, well, you know, like you ride your own to Allah we belong and to Allah we will return. And that was the thing that helped me. I had kind of. Kind of feel the soothing tranquility and peace. And that was offered from a child who is no more than ten years old. It just showed me that these children have developed such a different perspective in terms of healing and coping, that many of us here in our luxuries don’t even have an ounce of that. It made my mission that much more precious and unique for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>When was your last day in Gaza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>So our missions are outfitted with like a sometime before and after the entry and exit because of, all the logistics of getting in. So I returned on the 15th of March. So it was, a day and a half before that that I exited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Was it hard to leave?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Very difficult. I’m having withdrawal. I’m having like a Gaza withdrawal because of, you know, that sense of purpose that I had. While they’re on the ground? Definitely. Incrementally. Feels like it goes away when you’re here. That sense of perspective on life, feeling like you’re having impact. I definitely miss the people. I so miss the people. There was a profound feeling of guilt, of leaving, because it’s like I have this luxury of leaving. Like I can choose one to leave. People can’t choose when to leave. I almost felt embarrassed. Hey, I was leaving and people, everyone would tell me like, we’re going to miss you so much. Please don’t forget us. Please come back. It just felt like. Is this, like tug of war in the heart?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Do you hope to go back to Gaza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I’m in the process of coordinating my second mission and making sure that it’s impactful. More importantly, how I can best help the population there. That’s that’s my kind of my litmus test right now. Where’s my presence? Kind of marginally most beneficial for the population there in right now and making a decision around that question. It’s really having vision and purpose to me going. I feel like there’s so much to be done. There’s so much to be done in bringing awareness to our local communities about what’s happening. And you sit with families there and you realize families here have families there. Everybody’s the same. We’re all human beings, and we have this shared collective humanity. Everybody wants the best for their children, wants the best for themselves. We can stop the harm like this. This is manmade. People have a right to live in their homes peacefully. To live with dignity. To live with self-determination. But these are human rights, and we all enjoy them as we should. And we just have to make sure that we’re not ever complicit in taking those rights away from other people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Well, doctor, thank you very much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Thank you for having me here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>That was Dr. Mohammad Subeh. An emergency room doctor based in Saratoga. This episode was pitched, cut down and edited by producer Maria Esquinca. It was scored by Dana Cronin. Music courtesy of first. Com Music and Audio Network. The Bay is a production of KQED Public Radio in San Francisco. It’s made by Me, Maria Esquinca, and host Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Jen Chien is our director of podcasts. Katie Sprenger is our podcast operations manager. César Saldaña is our podcast engagement producer. Maha Sanad is our podcast engagement intern. And KQED chief content officer is Holly Kernan. I’m Alan Montecillo in for Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Thanks for listening.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Dr. Mohammad Subeh, an emergency room physician from the South Bay, recently returned from a volunteer medical mission to the city of Rafah in southern Gaza. 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The region’s health care infrastructure has been decimated, as a mere 12 of Gaza’s 36 hospitals are considered operational. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dr. Mohammad Subeh, an emergency room physician from the South Bay, recently returned from a volunteer medical mission to the city of Rafah in southern Gaza. In this episode, he talks about why he went, what he saw, and the people he met.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC5444138415&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence. Please take care while listening. I’m Alan Montecillo in for Ericka Cruz Guevarra. And welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. An estimated 33,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel’s bombardment and invasion of Gaza. At least 13,000 have been children. The Israeli military’s attack on Gaza has also decimated the region’s health care system and put aid workers in danger. An estimated 12 out of 36 hospitals are currently operational. On Monday, Israeli forces completed a two week raid on Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, claiming it had served as a base for Hamas militants. That same day, seven aid workers with World Central Kitchen were killed by an Israeli airstrike. Right now, the need for any help is dire. And despite this recent news, there are still volunteers who are putting themselves in harm’s way to provide food and medical assistance. One of them came from right here in the Bay area. Dr. Mohammad Subeh Is an emergency room doctor in the South Bay, and in February he went to the city of Rafah for a five week volunteer medical mission. Today, I sit down with Doctor Suba to talk about why he went to Gaza and what he wants all of us to know about what he saw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>My name is Mohammad Subeh. I’m an emergency physician. I was born to a family that was forcibly displaced from Palestine and a village called the lid in 1948. So they sought refuge in the small country of Kuwait, where I was born in 1984. And I lived, the first six years of my life in Kuwait. As a Palestinian born in Kuwait. You’re not a citizen of Kuwait. So I always held this a travel document that said I was stateless. And so in 1990, when Iraq invaded Kuwait, we try to ride out the war for almost two months before we had to abruptly leave as my father was going to be killed. And that was from an early age, my first exposure to war, death, destruction. When we left Kuwait, we came to the United States as refugees. And that in and of itself was a life changing experience. I grew up in Los Angeles and, rougher area of Los Angeles and, in the 90s, surrounded by gang violence, surrounded by really tough living conditions. My elementary school wasn’t too far from our apartment, and very frequently I would hear choppers, you know, police helicopters overhead with the floodlights, looking for people, but also a different sound for the LA County medevac helicopters that would come and land in our elementary school field to pick up trauma patients. And so any time I would hear that from the distance, I would just take off and just run towards the field and just watch the helicopter land and pick up a patient. And I was always very, very much in awe of the team that was working on the helicopter. And I said, you know, I want to do that. I remember at a young age, just looking up at the sky and thinking, you know, what am I doing here? Why did I go through all those difficult moments, you know, at a young age? I just remember kind of really shaping my foundation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11982074\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11982074\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/Mohammad-with-kids-1.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dr.Mohammed Subeh takes a selfie with children at the field hospital where he volunteered in Gaza. (Photo credit: Dr. Mohammed Subeh)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>And so what was your path from? From that to the Bay area?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>There was a big light switch that turned on for me. I actually wasn’t very, didn’t do well academically in elementary school because I was just so again, I was very confused about what was happening in my life. And so high school for me was very different. It was all about not only doing well academically and learning as much as I can, but also putting my values into action. I was lucky in my final year to be mentored by an ER local ER physician from the Bay area. That was my first exposure to the Bay area and led me to apply to Stanford, where I did the majority of my education, undergrad and grad school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>And now you live in the South Bay and, you have a family of your own now, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Yeah, yeah. So we live in Saratoga. My wife and I and our two boys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>When did you decide that you wanted to go to Gaza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>So I have family in Gaza, aunts, cousins, their children, and we talk on a monthly basis. And you kind of understand what the health care infrastructure looked like, just that baseline, which is not that great, especially under the nearly two decades siege. Because, so our conversation was around like, how can we help? Like, what can we do? Even if it’s a small minute thing that, you know, some way we can move the needle and then you kind of fast forward to, October of last year and the health care infrastructure started, being decimated. You know, from day one. And I remember the first week my wife, I was in an E.R. shift, and my wife sent me a message and said, hey, you should really look into these potential hospital ships that are they’re thinking of sending over to Gaza to serve the people. One. It sent me the message that we’re all on board as a family. Like, we got to go do this. And second, it made me really be much more active in trying to pursue whatever medical mission that’s going to allow me to go there and serve the people in Russia. Once that opportunity came to me, I definitely there was no hesitation. I took it on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Were you afraid before you left?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Do you mean it? Was I afraid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>For your own safety?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>My own safety? I never let that paralyze my decision making. From a young age, my parents always taught us. We’re all going to die one day. Every human being is going to die. We don’t know when, where, how, but we’re going to die. And you can’t let that fear of death paralyze your ability to share the gifts that God has given you to the world. And it’s our responsibility to not only be aware of those gifts and nurture those gifts, but also make sure that they’re put into action and bring bring about a better world around us. And so that was always front and center for me and my decision to go to Gaza. My biggest fear actually was my biggest worry was making sure I tied up any loose ends. We actually my family runs a coffee roaster in the South Bay as well. And I roast for, you know, roast coffee on my in my time and your abundant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Free time from your regular job as an air doctor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>But it was, it’s actually one of the things that brings me a lot of fulfillment, because it was, a project that my son, my son and I started together. So kind of going back to your question, the fear was really around making sure, you know, my absence did not, hinder any operation I was leaving behind. And, to me, fearing that I would be a burden on the system, that I go there and be a burden on the people there, and I never wanted that to happen. Death injury never was really front and center for me and, intentionally did not let it be because, yes, there I always had that risk. Right. And it’s a real risk. But we still have to do our part. And that’s what led me to, you know, move on and keep going on this medical mission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>What was your journey into Gaza like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>I flew into Cairo like everyone, and the only way into Gaza right now is through Rafah, which is on the southern part of the Gaza Strip. As you’re approaching the Rafah crossing. There are miles upon miles of trucks that are parked there waiting to be let in. As soon as you get out of the vehicle and go into the, Egyptian side of the border. You start hearing these drones above your head, not too far away. And these drones are in the form of these reconnaissance planes that are obtaining information of what’s happening on the ground, also outfitted with missiles and quadcopters, which are drones that are outfitted with machine guns. And you kind of constantly hear that, kind of like this annoying hornet that is buzzing around your head, and that doesn’t stop until you exit. That’s constantly there. After going through the process of entering into my first drive through the encampments, you feel like you’ve entered this apocalyptic horror movie. It’s like, is this really 2024? Is this earth right now? People were just with torn up clothes, no shoes dirty, no access to clean water, trying to just look through trash. You have people building fires so they can provide heating for their families or cook something, whatever they have access to. And, you start hearing missile strike after missile strike, and it’s just shakes the whole vehicle. For me, it was very startling. It took me almost a week to actually kind of drown out the missile strikes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Do you remember the first person you met when you finally got there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>My first encounter with a Palestinian. Was this older gentleman. Torn up clothes. The sandals were torn up and he approached me smiling. And he handed me two cookies that he had. And he said, I want you to have this. And I said, I was so bewildered. I was like this gentleman who I know doesn’t have much. He’s giving me two cookies that he has. And I said, no, Hummel, I’m going. Arabic means uncle. I know I’m not. You know, I don’t need this, you know, keep it for for yourself. And he said, no, I want you to have this. I’m so happy you’re here. Thank you for being here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Coming up. What life was like at the field hospital. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>What was your first day and where were you based?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>My first day in Toronto was the 14th, February. I was based in Russia, so we set up a field hospital. You know, we go to a plot of land, and we set up tents, and we try to operate out of those tents to see patients and offer different services depending on what we can offer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Once you’re there and you’re seeing patients. What was a regular day like for you? Was there such a thing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>There was no normal day. There was no like, this is how my day looked like. I was at the field hospital 24 seven. I would start off at 430 or 5 a.m. and, I will start my day with journaling. I would journal every day because I had to get my emotions, my thoughts down on paper A to allow me to be able to function. We set up the hospital in January and anticipated about 40 to 50 patients that we’d see on a daily basis. The week I left, we were seeing up to 1000 patients a day, and we found that we needed to really offer all different types of services, many of which we really didn’t have access to or we couldn’t do at 100%. You know, things as basic as rubbing alcohol. For a long time, we did not have. When we did end up getting rubbing alcohol, we had to dilute it from 70% to 7% to make it last as long as possible, because we didn’t know when anymore would be allowed in. We had no access to ventilators, so ventilators are very important for our patients coming in with respiratory distress, respiratory failure. And so we had no means to intubate a patient to put them on a breathing machine, because we had no breathing machines. We actually had very little supplemental oxygen. Medications were very sparse. Sometimes we had antibiotics. Sometimes we didn’t. How many times we didn’t have Tylenol? Ibuprofen. So you have children coming in with febrile seizures. You have no way to bring down their their temperature. Anesthetics, pain medicines. We were doing for a long time major procedures with just ketamine. Ketamine is a medicine that dissociates the mind from the body. And we’re opening people’s chests, their abdomens, resetting intestines, resetting their spleens, all with ketamine. I remember that there was a seven year old girl, eight year old girl named Reema, who had been shot outside of her tent as she was playing outside of her tent. And we had to, she had to undergo, major surgery, open up her abdomen, take out a large portion of her intestines that was injured, repair her urinary bladder. I remember that night after the surgery, she was in excruciating pain, screaming, crying. We had no pain medicines for her. I you know, I would see patients also with medical emergencies. Just things we would see here strokes, heart attacks and not be able to do anything because there are no medications or supplies. There’s no nothing to do for them unfortunately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Where most of your patients. Children, elders. Whole range?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>I would say, so about 70% of our cases were trauma patients. The rest were medical emergencies. And, you know, things, people coming in with strokes, sepsis, heart attack. Of the 70%. A large majority were children. Over half were children coming in with shrapnel injuries, gunshot wounds mangled, extremities dead. I never imagined seeing so many dead children in front of me. Mothers, family members, screaming, crying. There was so much that I was seeing that I was not used to, I wasn’t prepared to see. You know, I would get these mule drawn carriages bringing me, piles of bodies that I had to go through and figure out. Is there any life left in this body? And I have to put them in body bags. Many of these bodies would come to me like a half skull with a spine, torso, intestines, and have to put those in a body bag and prepare for burial. That’s not something we’ve ever been trained to do. Yet that was a daily, experience for me in Russia. And go. You go through a lot of emotions while they’re on the ground, but it became very frustrating after witnessing and seeing the miles upon miles of a trucks just a few miles away, those trucks holding all the supplies and medications that we could save these people’s lives and do no harm is our main motto in medicine. And, yet we weren’t able to provide that basic care. There is no no, like, one flavor of the day for all of us. The only constant for me was, aside from the atrocities I was seeing, was the steadfastness of the Palestinian people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Are there any specific people you met or moments of joy, I suppose. Amid all the suffering that still stick with you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>So many people. I think the one that just comes to mind automatically for me right now is, a young boy named Ennis. And this is seven years old. He witnessed his entire family being killed. His only surviving family members is uncle, who is about 30 years old, and niece, is one of the children we housed in our field hospital. As he awaits, evacuation for definitive treatment of his shattered tibia, his shinbone. And, and this is like an old soul. He would always talk to me, and I would talk to him if he had so much wisdom. And he, carried himself in such a different way than any other child I interacted with. And he would always bring a smile to my face. He would call me always Doctor Mohammad. Doctor Mohammad, come. Come sit with me. Let’s talk or communicate with me at the end of the day. And it always would fill up my bucket. There is a night where a young boy had come in and found out that his cousin, who was his best friend, had been killed. And this young boy’s name is Maher, 11 years old, and he was just so distraught, crying and crying. And he said, why? Why did they have to kill Faizan? He’s my best friend. I loved Faisal so much. Why did they have to kill him? Anything I would say or do like didn’t seem sufficient to console him. I hugged him and I would tell him, you know, it’s okay. He’s he’s in gender. He’s in heaven. You know, I took him outside. We were walking around the field hospital and as he was crying, some of these children were housed on their crutches and walkers kind of come over quickly and they say, what’s what’s going on? Why is he crying? And I say, you know, Matt had just found out his cousin was killed, and they all hugged him and they consoled him and said, it’s okay. Alhamdulillah, Alhamdulillah. Show gratitude. And one of the young boys said to him, you know, in the Koran, Allah tells us that the believers and the patient ones are the ones that when they’re tried with difficult times, say in Elohim, well, you know, like you ride your own to Allah we belong and to Allah we will return. And that was the thing that helped me. I had kind of. Kind of feel the soothing tranquility and peace. And that was offered from a child who is no more than ten years old. It just showed me that these children have developed such a different perspective in terms of healing and coping, that many of us here in our luxuries don’t even have an ounce of that. It made my mission that much more precious and unique for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>When was your last day in Gaza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>So our missions are outfitted with like a sometime before and after the entry and exit because of, all the logistics of getting in. So I returned on the 15th of March. So it was, a day and a half before that that I exited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Was it hard to leave?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Very difficult. I’m having withdrawal. I’m having like a Gaza withdrawal because of, you know, that sense of purpose that I had. While they’re on the ground? Definitely. Incrementally. Feels like it goes away when you’re here. That sense of perspective on life, feeling like you’re having impact. I definitely miss the people. I so miss the people. There was a profound feeling of guilt, of leaving, because it’s like I have this luxury of leaving. Like I can choose one to leave. People can’t choose when to leave. I almost felt embarrassed. Hey, I was leaving and people, everyone would tell me like, we’re going to miss you so much. Please don’t forget us. Please come back. It just felt like. Is this, like tug of war in the heart?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Do you hope to go back to Gaza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I’m in the process of coordinating my second mission and making sure that it’s impactful. More importantly, how I can best help the population there. That’s that’s my kind of my litmus test right now. Where’s my presence? Kind of marginally most beneficial for the population there in right now and making a decision around that question. It’s really having vision and purpose to me going. I feel like there’s so much to be done. There’s so much to be done in bringing awareness to our local communities about what’s happening. And you sit with families there and you realize families here have families there. Everybody’s the same. We’re all human beings, and we have this shared collective humanity. Everybody wants the best for their children, wants the best for themselves. We can stop the harm like this. This is manmade. People have a right to live in their homes peacefully. To live with dignity. To live with self-determination. But these are human rights, and we all enjoy them as we should. And we just have to make sure that we’re not ever complicit in taking those rights away from other people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>Well, doctor, thank you very much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Dr. Mohammad Subeh: \u003c/strong>Thank you for having me here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo: \u003c/strong>That was Dr. Mohammad Subeh. An emergency room doctor based in Saratoga. This episode was pitched, cut down and edited by producer Maria Esquinca. It was scored by Dana Cronin. Music courtesy of first. Com Music and Audio Network. The Bay is a production of KQED Public Radio in San Francisco. It’s made by Me, Maria Esquinca, and host Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Jen Chien is our director of podcasts. Katie Sprenger is our podcast operations manager. César Saldaña is our podcast engagement producer. Maha Sanad is our podcast engagement intern. And KQED chief content officer is Holly Kernan. I’m Alan Montecillo in for Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Thanks for listening.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11981941/hopeandlossingaza","authors":["11649","11802","11362"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_6631","news_33812","news_33673","news_29475","news_22598"],"featImg":"news_11981878","label":"source_news_11981941"},"news_11967845":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11967845","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11967845","score":null,"sort":[1700361049000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-democratic-senate-candidates-face-calls-for-cease-fire-at-party-convention","title":"California Democratic Senate Candidates Face Calls for Cease-Fire at Party Convention","publishDate":1700361049,"format":"standard","headTitle":"California Democratic Senate Candidates Face Calls for Cease-Fire at Party Convention | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>The top Democratic candidates running for U.S. Senate in California made their case to hundreds of delegates Saturday in Sacramento, at a party convention marked by protests calling for party leaders to support a cease-fire in Israel’s war against Hamas in Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The party’s endorsing convention in Sacramento provided a key opportunity for the candidates to rally the party faithful ahead of the March 5 primary. But the Senate hopefuls’ plans to deliver their stump speeches at an afternoon forum ran headlong into protests demanding an end to Israel’s attacks on Gaza in retaliation for the Oct. 7 massacre of Israelis by Hamas, a U.S.-designated terrorist group. Appeals for a cease-fire have \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967633/heres-where-bay-area-electeds-stand-on-israels-siege-of-gaza\">divided the party’s elected officials from many\u003c/a> in its activist base.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At around 7 p.m., the party announced the cancellation of the remainder of Saturday’s schedule, including the meetings of the Arab American and Democrats for Israel caucuses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the afternoon, when Rep. Adam Schiff and Rep. Katie Porter delivered their closing remarks, they were drowned out by chants of “cease-fire now” by dozens of protesters inside the SAFE Credit Union Convention Center, many of whom waved signs supporting Rep. Barbara Lee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s important for them to hear that these are the people that are going to be electing them, and that this is what we want — a cease-fire now,” said Seema Badar, a protestor and proxy voter at the convention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lexi Reese, a former tech executive, ended her speech as the protests swelled in front of the convention stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The chants turned to cheers when Lee, whose district includes Oakland and Berkeley, took the stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Seema Badar, protestor and convention proxy voter\"]‘It’s important for them to hear that these are the people that are going to be electing them, and that this is what we want — a cease-fire now.’[/pullquote]“I was the only one who voted against the authorization to use force right after the 9/11 horrific events,” said Lee. “And yes, I am calling for a cease-fire now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The war offered Lee an opportunity to bolster her campaign, which has lagged in the polls and struggled to raise the funds needed to compete on TV with Porter and Schiff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lee is the only member of California’s congressional delegation who supports a cease-fire in Gaza. After the candidate forum, hundreds of protesters rallied across the street from the convention in front of the Sacramento Memorial Auditorium before returning to the convention center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Party delegates were scheduled to vote Saturday night on an endorsement in the Senate race, though the splintered field makes it unlikely that any of the candidates will reach the 60% threshold necessary for a party backing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the party stamp of approval was crucial for the candidates to vie for, said Paul Mitchell, vice president of Political Data Inc., a voting research firm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That signal of a party endorsement has just really skyrocketed in importance. It’s worth, in a U.S. Senate race, the equivalent of millions of dollars,” Mitchell said. “That’s why you see a lot of out-front jockeying with signs and T-shirts and even behind-the-scenes jockeying by these candidates to try and earn these endorsements.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11967846\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11967846\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"A view of the convention hall with seated attendees and a stage with flags.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The party’s endorsing convention in Sacramento provided a key opportunity for the candidates to rally the party faithful ahead of the March 5 primary. \u003ccite>(Guy Marzorati/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Outside of the main convention hall, the candidates spoke with delegates in small gatherings and individual conversations in the hallways, tailoring their pitches to specific Democratic caucuses representing women, seniors and rural voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an afternoon forum, the four candidates fielded questions from politics professors Bradford Jones of UC Davis and Joice Chang from Cal Poly Humboldt. They also directly addressed the crowd of delegates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Porter centered her remarks on a vow to fight corporate interests in D.C. The Orange County congresswoman also said her electoral experience in a politically divided part of California shows she can attract the moderate suburban voters key to the party’s national coalition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Paul Mitchell, vice president, Political Data Inc.\"]‘That signal of a party endorsement has just really skyrocketed in importance. It’s worth, in a U.S. Senate race, the equivalent of millions of dollars.’[/pullquote]“I have won three tough races and I know how to message in a way that will help us win a durable Democratic majority who will help us be able to win up and down the ballot,” Porter said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schiff spoke to delegates about his clashes with former President Donald Trump. Schiff, who represents the San Fernando Valley, helped lead the first Trump impeachment inquiry and later served on the House Jan. 6 committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we had a corrupt president of the United States, I investigated him, I impeached him,” Schiff said. “And when he engaged in insurrection, I helped expose him so that the Justice Department could prosecute him.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reese, a former executive at Google and Gusto, began her remarks asking delegates to participate in a breathing exercise, hoping to ease the tension in the hall. She told the crowd that she supported a cease-fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I already said I supported it. I already supported it, so if you want to support someone who supports you … ,” she said as chants from the protesters drowned her out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Party Chairman Rusty Hicks, who took to the stage in an effort to quell the demonstrations, said in a statement that “a small number of non-Delegate protesters circumvented venue security and disrupted the program.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They were heard and following a closing statement by the final candidate, the program was concluded and all attendees exited the venue,” Hicks said in the statement. “We look forward to the continuation of a successful Convention this afternoon with voting on endorsements, caucus meetings, and hospitality events.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The raucous reception from party delegates, a group that is more progressive than the overall Democratic electorate, was a fitting greeting for the candidates hoping to fill the seat held until recently by the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein until her death on Sept. 29. At the party’s 1990 convention, Feinstein was shouted down by delegates who opposed her support for the death penalty. Months later, she featured the jeering episode in a campaign ad in her run for governor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Protesters in Sacramento interrupted speeches from Katie Porter and Adam Schiff, while cheering Barbara Lee's call for an end to the war. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700364550,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":1129},"headData":{"title":"California Democratic Senate Candidates Face Calls for Cease-Fire at Party Convention | KQED","description":"Protesters in Sacramento interrupted speeches from Katie Porter and Adam Schiff, while cheering Barbara Lee's call for an end to the war. 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But the Senate hopefuls’ plans to deliver their stump speeches at an afternoon forum ran headlong into protests demanding an end to Israel’s attacks on Gaza in retaliation for the Oct. 7 massacre of Israelis by Hamas, a U.S.-designated terrorist group. Appeals for a cease-fire have \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967633/heres-where-bay-area-electeds-stand-on-israels-siege-of-gaza\">divided the party’s elected officials from many\u003c/a> in its activist base.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At around 7 p.m., the party announced the cancellation of the remainder of Saturday’s schedule, including the meetings of the Arab American and Democrats for Israel caucuses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the afternoon, when Rep. Adam Schiff and Rep. Katie Porter delivered their closing remarks, they were drowned out by chants of “cease-fire now” by dozens of protesters inside the SAFE Credit Union Convention Center, many of whom waved signs supporting Rep. 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After the candidate forum, hundreds of protesters rallied across the street from the convention in front of the Sacramento Memorial Auditorium before returning to the convention center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Party delegates were scheduled to vote Saturday night on an endorsement in the Senate race, though the splintered field makes it unlikely that any of the candidates will reach the 60% threshold necessary for a party backing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the party stamp of approval was crucial for the candidates to vie for, said Paul Mitchell, vice president of Political Data Inc., a voting research firm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That signal of a party endorsement has just really skyrocketed in importance. It’s worth, in a U.S. Senate race, the equivalent of millions of dollars,” Mitchell said. “That’s why you see a lot of out-front jockeying with signs and T-shirts and even behind-the-scenes jockeying by these candidates to try and earn these endorsements.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11967846\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11967846\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"A view of the convention hall with seated attendees and a stage with flags.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/IMG_5447-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The party’s endorsing convention in Sacramento provided a key opportunity for the candidates to rally the party faithful ahead of the March 5 primary. \u003ccite>(Guy Marzorati/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Outside of the main convention hall, the candidates spoke with delegates in small gatherings and individual conversations in the hallways, tailoring their pitches to specific Democratic caucuses representing women, seniors and rural voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an afternoon forum, the four candidates fielded questions from politics professors Bradford Jones of UC Davis and Joice Chang from Cal Poly Humboldt. They also directly addressed the crowd of delegates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Porter centered her remarks on a vow to fight corporate interests in D.C. The Orange County congresswoman also said her electoral experience in a politically divided part of California shows she can attract the moderate suburban voters key to the party’s national coalition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘That signal of a party endorsement has just really skyrocketed in importance. It’s worth, in a U.S. Senate race, the equivalent of millions of dollars.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Paul Mitchell, vice president, Political Data Inc.","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“I have won three tough races and I know how to message in a way that will help us win a durable Democratic majority who will help us be able to win up and down the ballot,” Porter said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schiff spoke to delegates about his clashes with former President Donald Trump. Schiff, who represents the San Fernando Valley, helped lead the first Trump impeachment inquiry and later served on the House Jan. 6 committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we had a corrupt president of the United States, I investigated him, I impeached him,” Schiff said. “And when he engaged in insurrection, I helped expose him so that the Justice Department could prosecute him.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reese, a former executive at Google and Gusto, began her remarks asking delegates to participate in a breathing exercise, hoping to ease the tension in the hall. She told the crowd that she supported a cease-fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I already said I supported it. I already supported it, so if you want to support someone who supports you … ,” she said as chants from the protesters drowned her out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Party Chairman Rusty Hicks, who took to the stage in an effort to quell the demonstrations, said in a statement that “a small number of non-Delegate protesters circumvented venue security and disrupted the program.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They were heard and following a closing statement by the final candidate, the program was concluded and all attendees exited the venue,” Hicks said in the statement. “We look forward to the continuation of a successful Convention this afternoon with voting on endorsements, caucus meetings, and hospitality events.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The raucous reception from party delegates, a group that is more progressive than the overall Democratic electorate, was a fitting greeting for the candidates hoping to fill the seat held until recently by the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein until her death on Sept. 29. At the party’s 1990 convention, Feinstein was shouted down by delegates who opposed her support for the death penalty. Months later, she featured the jeering episode in a campaign ad in her run for governor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11967845/california-democratic-senate-candidates-face-calls-for-cease-fire-at-party-convention","authors":["227"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_20716","news_22185","news_33506","news_33505","news_27626","news_24206","news_29475"],"featImg":"news_11967847","label":"news"},"news_11966385":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11966385","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11966385","score":null,"sort":[1699268406000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"californias-only-palestinian-american-elected-official-speaks-out-on-the-war-in-gaza","title":"The Bay Area's Only Palestinian-American Elected Official Speaks Out On the War in Gaza","publishDate":1699268406,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The Bay Area’s Only Palestinian-American Elected Official Speaks Out On the War in Gaza | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Foster City is home to one of the\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13934383/palestine-cultural-day-foster-city\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> largest annual gatherings of Palestinians \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">in the Bay Area. It’s also where Councilmember Sam Hindi holds office as one of the few elected officials of Palestinian heritage in California. Today, we talk with Hindi about how the war in Gaza has affected him — as an elected official, as a father, and as a Palestinian-American.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC6577254913&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra, and welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. For 36 years, one of the largest Palestinian celebrations here in the Bay Area had been held in San Francisco’s Hall of Flowers. People from all over the region flocked to this yearly celebration, and eventually the hall’s capacity of 3000 people just couldn’t fit the amount of people showing up to this celebration every year. So, in 2018, the Palestine Day Cultural Festival was moved to Foster City, a community of about 33,000 people in San Mateo County. That same year, a man by the name of Sam Hindi had been elected mayor of Foster City, becoming only the second Palestinian American to hold elected office in the state of California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>My name is Ericka, I’m here to interview Sam Hindi:. And we’re in the lobby. Okay, great. Thank you so much. Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Ericka? Hi, Ericka. A pleasure to meet you. Pleasure. Thank you for coming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Maria Esquinca: \u003c/strong>Hi. Maria. Nice to meet you\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Nice to meet you, Maria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Maria, Alan, and I recently went to Foster City to talk with Sam Hindi. We took an elevator up to his office on the second floor of City Hall, which revealed a perfect view of the San Mateo Bridge in the distance. The bridge looks amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That’s really cool.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Yeah, yeah. I mean, this whole area here. Yeah. This used to be light industrial, And this year we have added so much needed housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Usually, Councilmember Hindi talks about stuff you’d expect from a local politician in the bay. Things like housing, public safety, access to parks. But we visited him to discuss his unique perspective as one of just a few Palestinian-American elected officials in the country. First Councilmember, I’ll have you just introduce yourself as your first and last name and then tell us what you do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Sure. My name is Sam Hindi – last name H-I-N-D-I. I am a current councilmember here in Foster City. I used to be mayor and 2018-2019. My family’s story really begins with my grandparents from both my mom’s side and my dad’s side becoming refugees in 1948. They come from a town on the northern coast of what used to be Palestine. At the time it was called Akka. In English, it was called Acre, and my grandfather from my dad’s side, he let his family kind of go to Lebanon and he stayed behind, fighting for his village and for his country until he got injured and he had to evacuate and followed the family to Lebanon. You know, I’m someone who grew up in Lebanon during the civil war. So I understand I firsthand experience impact of war. My family basically ended up being scattered all over the world. I still have family in Lebanon. I still have family in Palestine. We grew up with Palestine in our mind. Our people has been subjected to colonization and occupation for 75 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What brought you to Foster City specifically?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>I immigrated in 1983 to the United States, and I was in Southern California. I went to college in Long Beach State, and that’s where I pursued my education. And while I was in college, I started a family business along with my brothers. And we had a career service. And then in 1992, we expanded from Southern California to Northern California. I actually stumbled over Foster City. I didn’t know that Foster City existed. I was shopping at a Middle Eastern store and started the conversation, and I told them I was thinking of moving to Burlingame and they said, ‘Well, you work in Union City. Why don’t you check out Foster City?’ I said, ‘Where is that?’ And I came to Foster City in 1992, fell in love with it. The community is such a great, diverse community that welcomes everybody. And after that, I got married and raised my children. My children were born in Foster City and went to Foster City schools. So, this is home for us. I’ve been here for so many years now, since 1992.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And what about your family? Are your brothers in Foster City as well? Are they still in Southern California?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>You know, Palestinians end up being everywhere and scattered everywhere because we are homeless. That’s really what we are. We are stateless. So, I have two brothers in Southern California. I have one brother in Canada. I have one sister in New York. I have one sister still in Lebanon. And if I could tell you about my extended family, there’s some in Germany, some I mean, all over Europe, some in Dubai, Saudi Arabia. It’s just wherever you can make a living, wherever you could go, because, you know, wherever you are, the concentration of the Palestinian community in Lebanon or Syria or Jordan and the camps is not really a future to have a economic and financial future. So, you end up taking the opportunities wherever you can in this large world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>On October 13th, Councilmember Hindi posted on his personal Facebook page saying, “The attacks by Hamas on Israeli civilians, including killing, injuring and kidnaping, are reprehensible and war crimes.” He went on to write that “destroying and flattening entire neighborhoods in Gaza could not be justified or explained as self-defense. The footage from Gaza of civilian casualties is horrifying and beyond description.” For weeks now, Hindi has been glued to Al-Jazeera and sharing social media posts from the ground in Gaza. And he also believes very strongly that the U.S. is complicit in the killing of civilians in Palestine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>As the U.S. government, we are guilty of genocide just as much as Israel is guilty of genocide. There is no question in my mind about this. After October 7, people were talking about, well, especially elected official in the Western world and here, you know, Israel has a right to defend itself. I think every nation has a right to defend itself. Not just Israel. That goes without saying. Let me ask these questions: is laying a siege on 2.2 million civilians, not allowing food, water, medical supplies to come in, is that defending yourself? Is bombarding homes defending yourself? Is bombing mosques and churches defending yourself? Is killing over 9000 civilians – over 3000 of them are children – defending yourself? I cannot fathom how anyone, and mainly our US administration – how do you think what is happening, by having this genocide being committed, by the suffering of so many people, by shattering the lives of so many people, gonna get us closer to peace or security? I argue that it does completely the opposite. I say it will harden more people. You will have more militant because the scars of war do not to you in one day or two. I, for one, was one of those who was hopeful for a two-state solution. And I have a lot of reservations on the Oslo Accord, but I’m talking about the principle of coexistence, the principle of making peace, the principle of living together. Unfortunately, what has happened and transpired since: the constant land theft of Palestinian land in Jerusalem and the West Bank and expanding the settlement enterprise, taking the indigenous people, kicking them out of their homes, stealing the land and building settlement on it, and all the violations of human rights and all the crimes that has been committed against the Palestinian people. Israel has been getting away with it with impunity. Unfortunately, from our country, the United States and the rest of the Western world, most of the Western world, not all of them. So I don’t see how that could happen. It’s really – and it’s kind of ironic that you hear Biden and his administration we are for a two state solution. Either they are disingenuous or they don’t know what they are talking about. And I don’t think they don’t know what they are talking about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>After the break, Sam Hindi talks about what role he thinks local elected officials in the Bay Area can play in this international conflict. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I want to ask you how you’re thinking about your role in this moment as a city councilor, as an American, as a Palestinian-American. What have your conversations been like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>So, that’s a very important question. I mean, I have different hats and I wear those different hats and different roles. My job as a city council member is to be representing my entire community, not just a Palestinian communities, and not just my personal views as a Palestinian American. My job is to make sure the well-being of my entire community, those on either side or those who are not even involved, that they are being respected, that we are careful how people on the other side in our community are mourning as well. We have civilians in Israel who got killed as well. And I mourn all civilians. I represent the residents of Foster City equally. But with that being said, you ask me, what do I do? I continue to reach out to our congressional representatives to share with them the perspective and the feelings of the Palestinian-Arab-Muslim community, and quite frankly, our allies, who most of them are Jewish. Jewish Voice for Peace [and] Not In Our Name: those two organization are advocating for a cease fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Have you had a chance to actually get on the phone with some of these congressional representatives you’ve reached out to?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>I have. Our congressional representative for our district is Kevin Mullin. But we’ve been reaching out to other issues and not just our local representative. Obviously, you know, our community is in a lot of pain. Our children in school are scared and being called terrorists. They’re being singled out. We make sure we reach out to the attorney general of the state of California, Rob Bonta, to make him aware of these things. We continue to be anxious, continue to be scared, and we feel abandoned quite, quite frankly, by our leadership in Washington. We feel betrayed by the Biden administration, and he better be careful. He is losing, if not already lost a lot of votes, not just from Palestinians, not just from Arabs, not just from Muslims, but also from our allies. Actions have consequences and hopefully that will be reflected on the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>You are a city councilor of this one particular city. But we have seen Richmond, California, you know, pass a resolution standing in solidarity with the people of Palestine. I’m curious how you see your role in that way. Are there any conversations happening in Foster City, for example, about that kind of thing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>That’s a very tough and important question. And just to be clear, a resolution of any kind on international policy is symbolic, although it’s important sometimes to be symbolic. I’m not dismissing the importance. It’s very important. Basically, what Richmond said, in essence, we don’t want to be silent and we’re speaking out to what we see is wrong as crime. Others have reservations. I think it was an important move for the Richmond City Council to articulate their values for human rights and for freedom. Here in Foster City, I have not approached it. And…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Would you like to see something like that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>I do. You know, on the city council. I’m one of five. To get anything done, you need at least two more people. I don’t think we’ll have three, so I weigh, is it worth going through the exercise and have the divisiveness in the community and not having the outcome? Because, you know, you’re going to open the debate and you’re going to have the divisiveness. For that reason, you way. What’s the point? What’s the value? I’m not here to divide my community. Yes, I’m here to lead. And I would love my community to see the injustice and to say that. To be fair to my colleagues, I have not approached them. I’m not suggesting that they are not or they are. I don’t know. But my gut feeling is I don’t have three.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What are the conversations that you’re having with your kids right now?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>So my kids are at an age now that they really understand everything on their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>How old are they?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>I have a 26, 24, and 21. My wife and I never kind of put them in and really drilled in them the Palestinian issue. They organically have seen because, unfortunately, what we are seeing now is this is like what, the fourth time at least, in Gaza. So, they grew up experiencing these things just from far away from the United States. But it’s organically had the connection they did on their own. My parents actually, the one thing that they drilled in our mind, me and my siblings, is we don’t have a problem with the Jewish religion and the Jews. This is about Zionism and the theft of Palestine. So, that is what my parents drilled in our heads. Be careful when you speak and be careful who you target with your speech. This is not a religious war. This is about colonialism and settlement and occupation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Thank you so much for taking the time and for speaking with us and sitting down. I really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Well, thank you so much for reaching out and really for providing me the medium to share.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Sam Hindi, a city council member in Foster City. This conversation was pitched and produced by me. It was cut down and edited by senior editor Alan Montecillo and Maria Esquinca, who scored this episode. The Bay is a production of member-supported KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Thanks for listening. Talk to you next time.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700688975,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":5,"wordCount":2629},"headData":{"title":"The Bay Area's Only Palestinian-American Elected Official Speaks Out On the War in Gaza | KQED","description":"View the full episode transcript. Foster City is home to one of the largest annual gatherings of Palestinians in the Bay Area. It’s also where Councilmember Sam Hindi holds office as one of the few elected officials of Palestinian heritage in California. 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It’s also where Councilmember Sam Hindi holds office as one of the few elected officials of Palestinian heritage in California. Today, we talk with Hindi about how the war in Gaza has affected him — as an elected official, as a father, and as a Palestinian-American.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC6577254913&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra, and welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. For 36 years, one of the largest Palestinian celebrations here in the Bay Area had been held in San Francisco’s Hall of Flowers. People from all over the region flocked to this yearly celebration, and eventually the hall’s capacity of 3000 people just couldn’t fit the amount of people showing up to this celebration every year. So, in 2018, the Palestine Day Cultural Festival was moved to Foster City, a community of about 33,000 people in San Mateo County. That same year, a man by the name of Sam Hindi had been elected mayor of Foster City, becoming only the second Palestinian American to hold elected office in the state of California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>My name is Ericka, I’m here to interview Sam Hindi:. And we’re in the lobby. Okay, great. Thank you so much. Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Ericka? Hi, Ericka. A pleasure to meet you. Pleasure. Thank you for coming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Maria Esquinca: \u003c/strong>Hi. Maria. Nice to meet you\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Nice to meet you, Maria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Maria, Alan, and I recently went to Foster City to talk with Sam Hindi. We took an elevator up to his office on the second floor of City Hall, which revealed a perfect view of the San Mateo Bridge in the distance. The bridge looks amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That’s really cool.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Yeah, yeah. I mean, this whole area here. Yeah. This used to be light industrial, And this year we have added so much needed housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Usually, Councilmember Hindi talks about stuff you’d expect from a local politician in the bay. Things like housing, public safety, access to parks. But we visited him to discuss his unique perspective as one of just a few Palestinian-American elected officials in the country. First Councilmember, I’ll have you just introduce yourself as your first and last name and then tell us what you do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Sure. My name is Sam Hindi – last name H-I-N-D-I. I am a current councilmember here in Foster City. I used to be mayor and 2018-2019. My family’s story really begins with my grandparents from both my mom’s side and my dad’s side becoming refugees in 1948. They come from a town on the northern coast of what used to be Palestine. At the time it was called Akka. In English, it was called Acre, and my grandfather from my dad’s side, he let his family kind of go to Lebanon and he stayed behind, fighting for his village and for his country until he got injured and he had to evacuate and followed the family to Lebanon. You know, I’m someone who grew up in Lebanon during the civil war. So I understand I firsthand experience impact of war. My family basically ended up being scattered all over the world. I still have family in Lebanon. I still have family in Palestine. We grew up with Palestine in our mind. Our people has been subjected to colonization and occupation for 75 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What brought you to Foster City specifically?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>I immigrated in 1983 to the United States, and I was in Southern California. I went to college in Long Beach State, and that’s where I pursued my education. And while I was in college, I started a family business along with my brothers. And we had a career service. And then in 1992, we expanded from Southern California to Northern California. I actually stumbled over Foster City. I didn’t know that Foster City existed. I was shopping at a Middle Eastern store and started the conversation, and I told them I was thinking of moving to Burlingame and they said, ‘Well, you work in Union City. Why don’t you check out Foster City?’ I said, ‘Where is that?’ And I came to Foster City in 1992, fell in love with it. The community is such a great, diverse community that welcomes everybody. And after that, I got married and raised my children. My children were born in Foster City and went to Foster City schools. So, this is home for us. I’ve been here for so many years now, since 1992.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And what about your family? Are your brothers in Foster City as well? Are they still in Southern California?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>You know, Palestinians end up being everywhere and scattered everywhere because we are homeless. That’s really what we are. We are stateless. So, I have two brothers in Southern California. I have one brother in Canada. I have one sister in New York. I have one sister still in Lebanon. And if I could tell you about my extended family, there’s some in Germany, some I mean, all over Europe, some in Dubai, Saudi Arabia. It’s just wherever you can make a living, wherever you could go, because, you know, wherever you are, the concentration of the Palestinian community in Lebanon or Syria or Jordan and the camps is not really a future to have a economic and financial future. So, you end up taking the opportunities wherever you can in this large world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>On October 13th, Councilmember Hindi posted on his personal Facebook page saying, “The attacks by Hamas on Israeli civilians, including killing, injuring and kidnaping, are reprehensible and war crimes.” He went on to write that “destroying and flattening entire neighborhoods in Gaza could not be justified or explained as self-defense. The footage from Gaza of civilian casualties is horrifying and beyond description.” For weeks now, Hindi has been glued to Al-Jazeera and sharing social media posts from the ground in Gaza. And he also believes very strongly that the U.S. is complicit in the killing of civilians in Palestine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>As the U.S. government, we are guilty of genocide just as much as Israel is guilty of genocide. There is no question in my mind about this. After October 7, people were talking about, well, especially elected official in the Western world and here, you know, Israel has a right to defend itself. I think every nation has a right to defend itself. Not just Israel. That goes without saying. Let me ask these questions: is laying a siege on 2.2 million civilians, not allowing food, water, medical supplies to come in, is that defending yourself? Is bombarding homes defending yourself? Is bombing mosques and churches defending yourself? Is killing over 9000 civilians – over 3000 of them are children – defending yourself? I cannot fathom how anyone, and mainly our US administration – how do you think what is happening, by having this genocide being committed, by the suffering of so many people, by shattering the lives of so many people, gonna get us closer to peace or security? I argue that it does completely the opposite. I say it will harden more people. You will have more militant because the scars of war do not to you in one day or two. I, for one, was one of those who was hopeful for a two-state solution. And I have a lot of reservations on the Oslo Accord, but I’m talking about the principle of coexistence, the principle of making peace, the principle of living together. Unfortunately, what has happened and transpired since: the constant land theft of Palestinian land in Jerusalem and the West Bank and expanding the settlement enterprise, taking the indigenous people, kicking them out of their homes, stealing the land and building settlement on it, and all the violations of human rights and all the crimes that has been committed against the Palestinian people. Israel has been getting away with it with impunity. Unfortunately, from our country, the United States and the rest of the Western world, most of the Western world, not all of them. So I don’t see how that could happen. It’s really – and it’s kind of ironic that you hear Biden and his administration we are for a two state solution. Either they are disingenuous or they don’t know what they are talking about. And I don’t think they don’t know what they are talking about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>After the break, Sam Hindi talks about what role he thinks local elected officials in the Bay Area can play in this international conflict. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I want to ask you how you’re thinking about your role in this moment as a city councilor, as an American, as a Palestinian-American. What have your conversations been like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>So, that’s a very important question. I mean, I have different hats and I wear those different hats and different roles. My job as a city council member is to be representing my entire community, not just a Palestinian communities, and not just my personal views as a Palestinian American. My job is to make sure the well-being of my entire community, those on either side or those who are not even involved, that they are being respected, that we are careful how people on the other side in our community are mourning as well. We have civilians in Israel who got killed as well. And I mourn all civilians. I represent the residents of Foster City equally. But with that being said, you ask me, what do I do? I continue to reach out to our congressional representatives to share with them the perspective and the feelings of the Palestinian-Arab-Muslim community, and quite frankly, our allies, who most of them are Jewish. Jewish Voice for Peace [and] Not In Our Name: those two organization are advocating for a cease fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Have you had a chance to actually get on the phone with some of these congressional representatives you’ve reached out to?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>I have. Our congressional representative for our district is Kevin Mullin. But we’ve been reaching out to other issues and not just our local representative. Obviously, you know, our community is in a lot of pain. Our children in school are scared and being called terrorists. They’re being singled out. We make sure we reach out to the attorney general of the state of California, Rob Bonta, to make him aware of these things. We continue to be anxious, continue to be scared, and we feel abandoned quite, quite frankly, by our leadership in Washington. We feel betrayed by the Biden administration, and he better be careful. He is losing, if not already lost a lot of votes, not just from Palestinians, not just from Arabs, not just from Muslims, but also from our allies. Actions have consequences and hopefully that will be reflected on the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>You are a city councilor of this one particular city. But we have seen Richmond, California, you know, pass a resolution standing in solidarity with the people of Palestine. I’m curious how you see your role in that way. Are there any conversations happening in Foster City, for example, about that kind of thing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>That’s a very tough and important question. And just to be clear, a resolution of any kind on international policy is symbolic, although it’s important sometimes to be symbolic. I’m not dismissing the importance. It’s very important. Basically, what Richmond said, in essence, we don’t want to be silent and we’re speaking out to what we see is wrong as crime. Others have reservations. I think it was an important move for the Richmond City Council to articulate their values for human rights and for freedom. Here in Foster City, I have not approached it. And…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Would you like to see something like that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>I do. You know, on the city council. I’m one of five. To get anything done, you need at least two more people. I don’t think we’ll have three, so I weigh, is it worth going through the exercise and have the divisiveness in the community and not having the outcome? Because, you know, you’re going to open the debate and you’re going to have the divisiveness. For that reason, you way. What’s the point? What’s the value? I’m not here to divide my community. Yes, I’m here to lead. And I would love my community to see the injustice and to say that. To be fair to my colleagues, I have not approached them. I’m not suggesting that they are not or they are. I don’t know. But my gut feeling is I don’t have three.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What are the conversations that you’re having with your kids right now?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>So my kids are at an age now that they really understand everything on their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>How old are they?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>I have a 26, 24, and 21. My wife and I never kind of put them in and really drilled in them the Palestinian issue. They organically have seen because, unfortunately, what we are seeing now is this is like what, the fourth time at least, in Gaza. So, they grew up experiencing these things just from far away from the United States. But it’s organically had the connection they did on their own. My parents actually, the one thing that they drilled in our mind, me and my siblings, is we don’t have a problem with the Jewish religion and the Jews. This is about Zionism and the theft of Palestine. So, that is what my parents drilled in our heads. Be careful when you speak and be careful who you target with your speech. This is not a religious war. This is about colonialism and settlement and occupation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Thank you so much for taking the time and for speaking with us and sitting down. I really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Sam Hindi: \u003c/strong>Well, thank you so much for reaching out and really for providing me the medium to share.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Sam Hindi, a city council member in Foster City. This conversation was pitched and produced by me. It was cut down and edited by senior editor Alan Montecillo and Maria Esquinca, who scored this episode. The Bay is a production of member-supported KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Thanks for listening. Talk to you next time.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11966385/californias-only-palestinian-american-elected-official-speaks-out-on-the-war-in-gaza","authors":["8654","11802","11649"],"programs":["news_28779"],"categories":["news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_33445","news_6631","news_1741","news_29475","news_33451","news_22598"],"featImg":"news_11966386","label":"source_news_11966385"},"news_11965770":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11965770","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11965770","score":null,"sort":[1698437737000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"biden-pushes-for-two-state-solution-in-israeli-palestinian-conflict","title":"Is Biden's Goal of a 2-State Solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Still Possible?","publishDate":1698437737,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Is Biden’s Goal of a 2-State Solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Still Possible? | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":253,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Israel continues to respond to Hamas’ unprecedented attack on its people, bombarding Gaza and preparing for a ground offensive. Humanitarian groups and some foreign leaders are calling for a cease-fire. But what are the prospects for long-term peace? [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"President Joe Biden\"]‘In our view, it has to be a two-state solution. And that means a concentrated effort for all the parties — Israelis, Palestinians, regional partners, global leaders — to put us on a path toward peace.’[/pullquote]President Biden \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQv_L-NBiNg\">said Wednesday\u003c/a> that there is no going back to the status quo before Oct. 7 — meaning in part that when the crisis is over, there must be a view of what comes next.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In our view, it has to be a two-state solution,” he said, \u003ca href=\"https://sv.usembassy.gov/president-bidens-statement-during-his-visit-to-tel-aviv/\">reiterating a comment\u003c/a> he made during his visit to Israel. “And that means a concentrated effort for all the parties — Israelis, Palestinians, regional partners, global leaders — to put us on a path toward peace.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two-state solution calls for establishing an independent state for Palestinians alongside that of Israel. And U.S. support for it is nothing new: For decades, it has been the primary proposed framework for resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But failed peace talks, logistical questions, expanded Israeli settlements, Palestinian attacks and recurring clashes have kept it from becoming a reality. The two-state solution has seen dwindling support from both Palestinians and Israelis over the years. And its prospects now seem dimmer than ever, in light of Hamas’ attack on Israel and Israel’s response.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dennis Ross, who was the chief U.S. negotiator at the 2000 Camp David summit between Israeli and Palestinian leaders, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207243717/23-years-ago-israelis-and-palestinians-were-talking-about-a-two-state-solution\">told NPR\u003c/a> that as heartbreaking as the situation is in the Middle East right now, eventually “there needs to be a day after.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have to understand: Israelis aren’t going anyplace, and Palestinians aren’t going anyplace,” Ross said. “Somehow, given that, we have to find a way towards coexistence, and obviously, we’re not there now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where did the two-state solution come from?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is long-running and complex but primarily rooted in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-us-policy-israeli-palestinian-conflict#chapter-title-0-1\">dispute over land\u003c/a> with immense historical and religious significance to Jews and Muslims (as well as Christians).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jewish proponents of the Zionist movement began moving to Ottoman Palestine — which was predominantly Arab — in the late 19th century, seeking safety from European antisemitism in their ancient homeland. Many more followed suit after the Holocaust. [aside postID=news_11965403 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231019-GazaRally-011-BL-qut-1020x680.jpg']Tensions grew between the two groups. Britain — which had governed Palestine since 1922 — referred the issue to the United Nations. The U.N. General Assembly voted in 1947 to divide Palestine into two states, one Jewish and one Arab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-Nations-Resolution-181\">partition plan\u003c/a> was rejected by the Arab community, in part due to concerns about how much land and access to resources it would get. But the plan was embraced by the Jewish community as legal justification for the establishment of Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Israel \u003ca href=\"https://www.un.org/unispal/timeline/#:~:text=MAY%201948%3A%20Great%20Britain%20terminates,Nakba%20(%E2%80%9Ccatastrophe%E2%80%9D).\">declared independence\u003c/a> in May 1948. Five Arab nations \u003ca href=\"https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/arab-israeli-war\">immediately invaded\u003c/a> the new country, prompting a major Israeli offensive and many months of fighting. That resulted in the permanent displacement of thousands of Palestinians, which some refer to as \u003ca href=\"https://www.un.org/unispal/about-the-nakba/\">the Nakba\u003c/a>, meaning “catastrophe” in Arabic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another major turning point came in 1967, with Israel’s decisive victory in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/event/Six-Day-War\">Six-Day War\u003c/a> against Egypt, Syria and Jordan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Israel gained territory \u003ca href=\"https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/the-1967-six-day-war\">four times its original size\u003c/a>, taking control of the Sinai Peninsula, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those territories have been a major point of contention and \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1206720312/biden-israel-palestinians-presidents-mideast-peace\">peace negotiations\u003c/a> ever since. The U.N. \u003ca href=\"https://peacemaker.un.org/middle-east-resolution242\">issued a resolution\u003c/a> in 1967 calling for Israeli troops to withdraw from areas it captured, though the resolution’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-Nations-Resolution-242\">meaning has been disputed\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That set up the current occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, which are collectively \u003ca href=\"https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-report-on-international-religious-freedom/israel-west-bank-and-gaza/west-bank-and-gaza/#:~:text=Section%20I.-,Religious%20Demography,Gaza%20Strip%20(midyear%202022).\">home to some 5 million Palestinians\u003c/a>. (Israel pulled troops and settlers \u003ca href=\"https://embassies.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrael/Maps/Pages/Israels%20Disengagement%20Plan-%202005.aspx#:~:text=With%20the%20implementation%20of%20the,settlements%20in%20Samaria%2C%20was%20completed.\">out of Gaza \u003c/a>in 2005, but it’s still considered an occupied territory because the withdrawal was done without any agreement and Israel still \u003ca href=\"https://www.unicef.org/mena/documents/gaza-strip-humanitarian-impact-15-years-blockade-june-2022\">exerts control\u003c/a> over it.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two-state solution was baked into Israel’s creation but didn’t necessarily play out as planned, says Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What started off in the U.N.’s mind as a 50-50 split of Mandatory Palestine, after the 1948 war — which was initiated by the Arab armies — it was more than 50 percent for Israel. After 1967, it was 100 percent-plus for Israel,” he says. “And now Israel is, I think, the only country that’s hard to draw on a map.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Has the two-state solution ever come close to reality?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>U.S. President Bill Clinton brought Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) leader Yasser Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin together in 1993 to negotiate the agreement that came to be known as the \u003ca href=\"https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/oslo\">Oslo Accords\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In it, Israel officially recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people and a partner in future negotiations, and the PLO renounced terrorism and recognized Israel’s right to exist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The deal raised expectations for a two-state solution. But it quickly \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1206720312/biden-israel-palestinians-presidents-mideast-peace\">began to unravel\u003c/a> after a series of events, including a 1994 attack on a mosque in Hebron by an American Jewish settler and Rabin’s assassination in 1995 by an Israeli settler opposed to the agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almost immediately after the Oslo Accords were signed, Israel enhanced its policy of fragmenting Gaza from the West Bank and East Jerusalem, says Atalia Omer, a professor of religion, conflict and peace studies at the Keough School of Global Affairs at the University of Notre Dame.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the same time, Israeli settlements continued to proliferate in the West Bank — on occupied land that the Palestinians hoped would be part of their state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And that has continued in the years since. The population of Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, grew from 520,000 to more than 700,000 between 2012 and 2022, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/03/human-rights-council-hears-current-israeli-plan-double-settler-population-occupied\">U.N. Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Settlements continue to eat into Palestinian spaces,” Omer says. “And over the course of the 30 years since the Oslo Accords — signed in the White House in September 1993 — the settlements completely prevented the possibility of a contiguous sovereign Palestinian state within that two-state framework.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are the other obstacles?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Discussions of a two-state solution center on a number of core issues, as the \u003ca href=\"https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-us-policy-israeli-palestinian-conflict#chapter-title-0-1\">Council on Foreign Relations\u003c/a> explains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One is how exactly the borders would be drawn. Most international diplomacy favors Israel reverting to a version of its pre-1967 borders, without a consensus on how that would account for the Palestinians living within those borders or the Jewish Israelis beyond them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Israel has annexed the whole city of Jerusalem as its capital, while Palestinians claim East Jerusalem as the capital of their state — which makes for another logistical question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s also the major question of Palestinian refugees of the wars of 1948 and 1967. The survivors and their descendants live mostly in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria and claim the right to return to Israel based on a 1948 \u003ca href=\"https://www.unrwa.org/content/resolution-194#:~:text=The%20United%20Nations%20General%20Assembly,not%20to%20return%20and%20for\">U.N. General Assembly resolution\u003c/a>. Israel views that right to return as a threat to its existence as a Jewish state and believes those refugees should go to the Palestinian state instead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Security looms large, too. Israel views certain Palestinian militant groups as existential threats — including Hamas, which governs Gaza and whose \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39775103\">founding charter\u003c/a> called for the obliteration of Israel — and wants them to disarm. Israel wants to maintain the ability to act in Palestinian areas against security threats. Palestinians want an end to Israel’s military occupation and full control over their own security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both sides want recognition of their respective states by the other and the international community. Palestinians also want acknowledgment of and redress for their forced displacement, Omer says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There needs to be a recognition and kind of naming, and then put in place mechanisms to redress — how can Palestinians be compensated for historical injustice they experienced — and then figure out ways of respecting Jewish citizens in the space through principles of equality and democracy,” Omer says.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where did peace negotiations stand before this war?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There has been little progress since the turn of the millennium. The collapse of the 2000 peace process fueled the \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/2018/11/20/18080066/israel-palestine-intifadas-first-second\">Second Intifada\u003c/a>, a major Palestinian uprising in the Israel-occupied Palestinian territories and Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It ended in 2005 with some 1,000 Israelis and 3,200 Palestinians dead, along with heightened skepticism of the peace process on both sides. Those feelings seem to have prevailed in the years since, which have been marked by terrorist attacks, military raids, rocket fire, border clashes and \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/07/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-conflict-timeline.html\">other incidents\u003c/a>. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Jon Alterman, director, Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies\"]‘As a fundamental proposition, it’s hard to have productive peace talks when no side sees either urgency or necessity to reach an agreement.’[/pullquote]“As a fundamental proposition, it’s hard to have productive peace talks when no side sees either urgency or necessity to reach an agreement,” says Alterman, of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says that from an Israeli perspective, security was improving, Palestinian demands were diminishing and it would be politically divisive to make concessions to them. Palestinians, meanwhile, had a sense that they couldn’t make an agreement with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/24/1189720508/israel-politics-netanyahu-judiciary\">right-wing government\u003c/a> of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and that it wasn’t worth giving up rights when demographics were in their favor in the long run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All the while, support for a two-state solution has shrunk considerably among \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/live-updates/biden-israel-gaza-hamas-palestine#palestinian-and-israeli-support-for-a-two-state-solution-is-shrinking-polls-show\">both Israelis and Palestinians\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://news.gallup.com/poll/512828/palestinians-lack-faith-biden-two-state-solution.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=syndication#:~:text=Generational%20Divide%20on%20the%20Two,Palestinians%20aged%2046%20and%20older.\">Gallup poll\u003c/a> released last week — conducted before Hamas’ attack on Israel — found that just 24% of Palestinians living in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem supported a two-state solution. That figure is down from 59% in 2012.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/26/israelis-have-grown-more-skeptical-of-a-two-state-solution/\">Pew Research Center poll\u003c/a> released in September found that only 35% of Israelis think “a way can be found for Israel and an independent Palestinian state to coexist peacefully,” a decline of 15 percentage points since 2013.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A decent number of Israelis and Palestinians have come to conclude that it’s not a solution, that the nature of Israeli behavior, especially in the West Bank, makes a Palestinian state unviable,” says Alterman, noting that many members of the Israeli government want to \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/06/14/875593140/as-israel-vows-annexation-palestinian-leaders-embark-on-risky-form-of-protest\">annex the West Bank \u003c/a>altogether.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says it’s too early to say where the current conflict will go, though many Israelis believe Israeli politics are more likely to move to the right than the left in the wake of Hamas’ attack, which killed some 1,400 people in Israel and resulted in more than 220 hostages taken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I talk to Israeli officials, I don’t get any sense that part of the strategy is providing a political horizon for Palestinians,” he added, “which is what a peace agreement would ostensibly be.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That doesn’t mean Israeli citizens aren’t pushing for peace at all. Sally Abed is a member of \u003ca href=\"https://www.standing-together.org/about-us\">Standing Together\u003c/a>, an organization that aims to improve Arab-Jewish relations within Israel, and she’s also a Palestinian.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I really don’t want to think that we needed to endure such loss, such atrocities here in Israel,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/21/1207763482/peace-activists-in-israel-speak-about-their-hopes-for-the-end-of-war\">she told NPR\u003c/a>. “But maybe now I really hope that from this dark corner, we can have this shift in the paradigm on how we actually look at these wars and how, actually, we look at the Israeli control over Gaza and over the West Bank, and really have a different outlook on what our leadership actually should look like.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are the alternatives?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There are alternatives to a two-state solution — including a one-state solution, a confederation, annexation and maintaining the status quo — at least in theory.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA725-1.html\">Rand Corp. focus groups\u003c/a> conducted in 2018 and 2019 found that none of those was acceptable to a majority of both Israelis and Palestinians, underscoring the deep complexities and emotions involved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alterman says one of the biggest challenges for Israelis is balancing the need for a Jewish state and a democratic state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you have a one-state solution that gives citizenship to all of the natural-born residents of Mandatory Palestine — which includes Gaza and the West Bank — you don’t have a Jewish majority,” he explained. “A substantial line of thought [in Israel] is that it’s more important that Israel be Jewish than democratic.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In contrast, most Americans — 73% — would choose a democratic over a Jewish Israel, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/americans-opt-for-a-democratic-israel-not-a-jewish-state/\">University of Maryland and Ipsos poll\u003c/a> conducted this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Omer is one of many who see the current reality as that of a single state. She points to the exclusionary practices and annexationist policies of the right-wing Netanyahu government, like a \u003ca href=\"https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/7/19/israel-passes-controversial-jewish-nation-state-law\">2018 law that demoted Arabic\u003c/a> as one of Israel’s official languages, and the recent findings of human rights groups \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/01/12/956020789/israeli-human-rights-group-says-the-country-pursues-nondemocratic-apartheid-regi\">in and beyond Israel\u003c/a> that its practices toward Palestinians \u003ca href=\"https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/\">amount to apartheid\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She says some Israeli and Palestinian activists support a one-state solution, but in \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/2018/11/20/18080094/what-are-the-two-state-solution-and-the-one-state-solution\">different formats\u003c/a> and for different reasons. [aside postID=news_11964835 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg']Some leftists and Palestinians support the creation of a democratic, secular country in which Arab Muslims would outnumber Jews. But some rightists and Israelis would prefer to see Israel annex the West Bank — either forcing out Palestinians or denying them the right to vote — \u003ca href=\"https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2020/06/israeli-annexation-parts-palestinian-west-bank-would-break-international-law-un\">which is illegal\u003c/a> under international human rights law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some activists, like the group \u003ca href=\"https://www.alandforall.org/english/?d=ltr\">A Land for All\u003c/a>, argue that solutions based on separation have failed in the past, and they are instead pushing for a \u003ca href=\"https://www.alandforall.org/english-program/?d=ltr\">confederal framework\u003c/a>, with two sovereign states sharing the capital of Jerusalem and an open border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Omer says there are “historical examples of life together in this space that is not within the paradigm of domination.” She acknowledges that it’s hard to imagine those kinds of possibilities in this moment but says the need for change is clear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What we can see depends on, also, an expression of how the paradigm that had been there before Oct. 7 is completely collapsing,” she says. “And all these contradictions just cannot be sustained anymore.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The push to establish an independent state for Palestinians alongside that of Israel has long been the primary proposed framework among U.S. leaders for resolving the decades-old conflict.\r\n","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700512478,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":53,"wordCount":2550},"headData":{"title":"Is Biden's Goal of a 2-State Solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Still Possible? | KQED","description":"The push to establish an independent state for Palestinians alongside that of Israel has long been the primary proposed framework among U.S. leaders for resolving the decades-old conflict.\r\n","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Is Biden's Goal of a 2-State Solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Still Possible?","datePublished":"2023-10-27T20:15:37.000Z","dateModified":"2023-11-20T20:34:38.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"nprImageCredit":"Ahmad Gharabli","nprByline":"\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/people/776048102/rachel-treisman\">Rachel Treisman\u003c/a>","nprImageAgency":"AFP via Getty Images","nprStoryId":"1208694837","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=1208694837&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/27/1208694837/two-state-solution-israeli-palestinian-conflict?ft=nprml&f=1208694837","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Fri, 27 Oct 2023 05:16:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Fri, 27 Oct 2023 05:16:00 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Fri, 27 Oct 2023 05:16:18 -0400","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11965770/biden-pushes-for-two-state-solution-in-israeli-palestinian-conflict","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Israel continues to respond to Hamas’ unprecedented attack on its people, bombarding Gaza and preparing for a ground offensive. Humanitarian groups and some foreign leaders are calling for a cease-fire. But what are the prospects for long-term peace? \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘In our view, it has to be a two-state solution. And that means a concentrated effort for all the parties — Israelis, Palestinians, regional partners, global leaders — to put us on a path toward peace.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"President Joe Biden","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>President Biden \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQv_L-NBiNg\">said Wednesday\u003c/a> that there is no going back to the status quo before Oct. 7 — meaning in part that when the crisis is over, there must be a view of what comes next.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In our view, it has to be a two-state solution,” he said, \u003ca href=\"https://sv.usembassy.gov/president-bidens-statement-during-his-visit-to-tel-aviv/\">reiterating a comment\u003c/a> he made during his visit to Israel. “And that means a concentrated effort for all the parties — Israelis, Palestinians, regional partners, global leaders — to put us on a path toward peace.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two-state solution calls for establishing an independent state for Palestinians alongside that of Israel. And U.S. support for it is nothing new: For decades, it has been the primary proposed framework for resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But failed peace talks, logistical questions, expanded Israeli settlements, Palestinian attacks and recurring clashes have kept it from becoming a reality. The two-state solution has seen dwindling support from both Palestinians and Israelis over the years. And its prospects now seem dimmer than ever, in light of Hamas’ attack on Israel and Israel’s response.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dennis Ross, who was the chief U.S. negotiator at the 2000 Camp David summit between Israeli and Palestinian leaders, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207243717/23-years-ago-israelis-and-palestinians-were-talking-about-a-two-state-solution\">told NPR\u003c/a> that as heartbreaking as the situation is in the Middle East right now, eventually “there needs to be a day after.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have to understand: Israelis aren’t going anyplace, and Palestinians aren’t going anyplace,” Ross said. “Somehow, given that, we have to find a way towards coexistence, and obviously, we’re not there now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where did the two-state solution come from?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is long-running and complex but primarily rooted in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-us-policy-israeli-palestinian-conflict#chapter-title-0-1\">dispute over land\u003c/a> with immense historical and religious significance to Jews and Muslims (as well as Christians).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jewish proponents of the Zionist movement began moving to Ottoman Palestine — which was predominantly Arab — in the late 19th century, seeking safety from European antisemitism in their ancient homeland. Many more followed suit after the Holocaust. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11965403","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231019-GazaRally-011-BL-qut-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Tensions grew between the two groups. Britain — which had governed Palestine since 1922 — referred the issue to the United Nations. The U.N. General Assembly voted in 1947 to divide Palestine into two states, one Jewish and one Arab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-Nations-Resolution-181\">partition plan\u003c/a> was rejected by the Arab community, in part due to concerns about how much land and access to resources it would get. But the plan was embraced by the Jewish community as legal justification for the establishment of Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Israel \u003ca href=\"https://www.un.org/unispal/timeline/#:~:text=MAY%201948%3A%20Great%20Britain%20terminates,Nakba%20(%E2%80%9Ccatastrophe%E2%80%9D).\">declared independence\u003c/a> in May 1948. Five Arab nations \u003ca href=\"https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/arab-israeli-war\">immediately invaded\u003c/a> the new country, prompting a major Israeli offensive and many months of fighting. That resulted in the permanent displacement of thousands of Palestinians, which some refer to as \u003ca href=\"https://www.un.org/unispal/about-the-nakba/\">the Nakba\u003c/a>, meaning “catastrophe” in Arabic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another major turning point came in 1967, with Israel’s decisive victory in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/event/Six-Day-War\">Six-Day War\u003c/a> against Egypt, Syria and Jordan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Israel gained territory \u003ca href=\"https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/the-1967-six-day-war\">four times its original size\u003c/a>, taking control of the Sinai Peninsula, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those territories have been a major point of contention and \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1206720312/biden-israel-palestinians-presidents-mideast-peace\">peace negotiations\u003c/a> ever since. The U.N. \u003ca href=\"https://peacemaker.un.org/middle-east-resolution242\">issued a resolution\u003c/a> in 1967 calling for Israeli troops to withdraw from areas it captured, though the resolution’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-Nations-Resolution-242\">meaning has been disputed\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That set up the current occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, which are collectively \u003ca href=\"https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-report-on-international-religious-freedom/israel-west-bank-and-gaza/west-bank-and-gaza/#:~:text=Section%20I.-,Religious%20Demography,Gaza%20Strip%20(midyear%202022).\">home to some 5 million Palestinians\u003c/a>. (Israel pulled troops and settlers \u003ca href=\"https://embassies.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrael/Maps/Pages/Israels%20Disengagement%20Plan-%202005.aspx#:~:text=With%20the%20implementation%20of%20the,settlements%20in%20Samaria%2C%20was%20completed.\">out of Gaza \u003c/a>in 2005, but it’s still considered an occupied territory because the withdrawal was done without any agreement and Israel still \u003ca href=\"https://www.unicef.org/mena/documents/gaza-strip-humanitarian-impact-15-years-blockade-june-2022\">exerts control\u003c/a> over it.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two-state solution was baked into Israel’s creation but didn’t necessarily play out as planned, says Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What started off in the U.N.’s mind as a 50-50 split of Mandatory Palestine, after the 1948 war — which was initiated by the Arab armies — it was more than 50 percent for Israel. After 1967, it was 100 percent-plus for Israel,” he says. “And now Israel is, I think, the only country that’s hard to draw on a map.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Has the two-state solution ever come close to reality?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>U.S. President Bill Clinton brought Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) leader Yasser Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin together in 1993 to negotiate the agreement that came to be known as the \u003ca href=\"https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/oslo\">Oslo Accords\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In it, Israel officially recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people and a partner in future negotiations, and the PLO renounced terrorism and recognized Israel’s right to exist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The deal raised expectations for a two-state solution. But it quickly \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1206720312/biden-israel-palestinians-presidents-mideast-peace\">began to unravel\u003c/a> after a series of events, including a 1994 attack on a mosque in Hebron by an American Jewish settler and Rabin’s assassination in 1995 by an Israeli settler opposed to the agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almost immediately after the Oslo Accords were signed, Israel enhanced its policy of fragmenting Gaza from the West Bank and East Jerusalem, says Atalia Omer, a professor of religion, conflict and peace studies at the Keough School of Global Affairs at the University of Notre Dame.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the same time, Israeli settlements continued to proliferate in the West Bank — on occupied land that the Palestinians hoped would be part of their state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And that has continued in the years since. The population of Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, grew from 520,000 to more than 700,000 between 2012 and 2022, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/03/human-rights-council-hears-current-israeli-plan-double-settler-population-occupied\">U.N. Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Settlements continue to eat into Palestinian spaces,” Omer says. “And over the course of the 30 years since the Oslo Accords — signed in the White House in September 1993 — the settlements completely prevented the possibility of a contiguous sovereign Palestinian state within that two-state framework.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are the other obstacles?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Discussions of a two-state solution center on a number of core issues, as the \u003ca href=\"https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-us-policy-israeli-palestinian-conflict#chapter-title-0-1\">Council on Foreign Relations\u003c/a> explains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One is how exactly the borders would be drawn. Most international diplomacy favors Israel reverting to a version of its pre-1967 borders, without a consensus on how that would account for the Palestinians living within those borders or the Jewish Israelis beyond them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Israel has annexed the whole city of Jerusalem as its capital, while Palestinians claim East Jerusalem as the capital of their state — which makes for another logistical question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s also the major question of Palestinian refugees of the wars of 1948 and 1967. The survivors and their descendants live mostly in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria and claim the right to return to Israel based on a 1948 \u003ca href=\"https://www.unrwa.org/content/resolution-194#:~:text=The%20United%20Nations%20General%20Assembly,not%20to%20return%20and%20for\">U.N. General Assembly resolution\u003c/a>. Israel views that right to return as a threat to its existence as a Jewish state and believes those refugees should go to the Palestinian state instead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Security looms large, too. Israel views certain Palestinian militant groups as existential threats — including Hamas, which governs Gaza and whose \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39775103\">founding charter\u003c/a> called for the obliteration of Israel — and wants them to disarm. Israel wants to maintain the ability to act in Palestinian areas against security threats. Palestinians want an end to Israel’s military occupation and full control over their own security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both sides want recognition of their respective states by the other and the international community. Palestinians also want acknowledgment of and redress for their forced displacement, Omer says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There needs to be a recognition and kind of naming, and then put in place mechanisms to redress — how can Palestinians be compensated for historical injustice they experienced — and then figure out ways of respecting Jewish citizens in the space through principles of equality and democracy,” Omer says.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where did peace negotiations stand before this war?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There has been little progress since the turn of the millennium. The collapse of the 2000 peace process fueled the \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/2018/11/20/18080066/israel-palestine-intifadas-first-second\">Second Intifada\u003c/a>, a major Palestinian uprising in the Israel-occupied Palestinian territories and Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It ended in 2005 with some 1,000 Israelis and 3,200 Palestinians dead, along with heightened skepticism of the peace process on both sides. Those feelings seem to have prevailed in the years since, which have been marked by terrorist attacks, military raids, rocket fire, border clashes and \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/07/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-conflict-timeline.html\">other incidents\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘As a fundamental proposition, it’s hard to have productive peace talks when no side sees either urgency or necessity to reach an agreement.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Jon Alterman, director, Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“As a fundamental proposition, it’s hard to have productive peace talks when no side sees either urgency or necessity to reach an agreement,” says Alterman, of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says that from an Israeli perspective, security was improving, Palestinian demands were diminishing and it would be politically divisive to make concessions to them. Palestinians, meanwhile, had a sense that they couldn’t make an agreement with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/24/1189720508/israel-politics-netanyahu-judiciary\">right-wing government\u003c/a> of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and that it wasn’t worth giving up rights when demographics were in their favor in the long run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All the while, support for a two-state solution has shrunk considerably among \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/live-updates/biden-israel-gaza-hamas-palestine#palestinian-and-israeli-support-for-a-two-state-solution-is-shrinking-polls-show\">both Israelis and Palestinians\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://news.gallup.com/poll/512828/palestinians-lack-faith-biden-two-state-solution.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=syndication#:~:text=Generational%20Divide%20on%20the%20Two,Palestinians%20aged%2046%20and%20older.\">Gallup poll\u003c/a> released last week — conducted before Hamas’ attack on Israel — found that just 24% of Palestinians living in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem supported a two-state solution. That figure is down from 59% in 2012.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/26/israelis-have-grown-more-skeptical-of-a-two-state-solution/\">Pew Research Center poll\u003c/a> released in September found that only 35% of Israelis think “a way can be found for Israel and an independent Palestinian state to coexist peacefully,” a decline of 15 percentage points since 2013.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A decent number of Israelis and Palestinians have come to conclude that it’s not a solution, that the nature of Israeli behavior, especially in the West Bank, makes a Palestinian state unviable,” says Alterman, noting that many members of the Israeli government want to \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/06/14/875593140/as-israel-vows-annexation-palestinian-leaders-embark-on-risky-form-of-protest\">annex the West Bank \u003c/a>altogether.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says it’s too early to say where the current conflict will go, though many Israelis believe Israeli politics are more likely to move to the right than the left in the wake of Hamas’ attack, which killed some 1,400 people in Israel and resulted in more than 220 hostages taken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I talk to Israeli officials, I don’t get any sense that part of the strategy is providing a political horizon for Palestinians,” he added, “which is what a peace agreement would ostensibly be.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That doesn’t mean Israeli citizens aren’t pushing for peace at all. Sally Abed is a member of \u003ca href=\"https://www.standing-together.org/about-us\">Standing Together\u003c/a>, an organization that aims to improve Arab-Jewish relations within Israel, and she’s also a Palestinian.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I really don’t want to think that we needed to endure such loss, such atrocities here in Israel,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/21/1207763482/peace-activists-in-israel-speak-about-their-hopes-for-the-end-of-war\">she told NPR\u003c/a>. “But maybe now I really hope that from this dark corner, we can have this shift in the paradigm on how we actually look at these wars and how, actually, we look at the Israeli control over Gaza and over the West Bank, and really have a different outlook on what our leadership actually should look like.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are the alternatives?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There are alternatives to a two-state solution — including a one-state solution, a confederation, annexation and maintaining the status quo — at least in theory.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA725-1.html\">Rand Corp. focus groups\u003c/a> conducted in 2018 and 2019 found that none of those was acceptable to a majority of both Israelis and Palestinians, underscoring the deep complexities and emotions involved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alterman says one of the biggest challenges for Israelis is balancing the need for a Jewish state and a democratic state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you have a one-state solution that gives citizenship to all of the natural-born residents of Mandatory Palestine — which includes Gaza and the West Bank — you don’t have a Jewish majority,” he explained. “A substantial line of thought [in Israel] is that it’s more important that Israel be Jewish than democratic.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In contrast, most Americans — 73% — would choose a democratic over a Jewish Israel, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/americans-opt-for-a-democratic-israel-not-a-jewish-state/\">University of Maryland and Ipsos poll\u003c/a> conducted this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Omer is one of many who see the current reality as that of a single state. She points to the exclusionary practices and annexationist policies of the right-wing Netanyahu government, like a \u003ca href=\"https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/7/19/israel-passes-controversial-jewish-nation-state-law\">2018 law that demoted Arabic\u003c/a> as one of Israel’s official languages, and the recent findings of human rights groups \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/01/12/956020789/israeli-human-rights-group-says-the-country-pursues-nondemocratic-apartheid-regi\">in and beyond Israel\u003c/a> that its practices toward Palestinians \u003ca href=\"https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/\">amount to apartheid\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She says some Israeli and Palestinian activists support a one-state solution, but in \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/2018/11/20/18080094/what-are-the-two-state-solution-and-the-one-state-solution\">different formats\u003c/a> and for different reasons. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11964835","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Some leftists and Palestinians support the creation of a democratic, secular country in which Arab Muslims would outnumber Jews. But some rightists and Israelis would prefer to see Israel annex the West Bank — either forcing out Palestinians or denying them the right to vote — \u003ca href=\"https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2020/06/israeli-annexation-parts-palestinian-west-bank-would-break-international-law-un\">which is illegal\u003c/a> under international human rights law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some activists, like the group \u003ca href=\"https://www.alandforall.org/english/?d=ltr\">A Land for All\u003c/a>, argue that solutions based on separation have failed in the past, and they are instead pushing for a \u003ca href=\"https://www.alandforall.org/english-program/?d=ltr\">confederal framework\u003c/a>, with two sovereign states sharing the capital of Jerusalem and an open border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Omer says there are “historical examples of life together in this space that is not within the paradigm of domination.” She acknowledges that it’s hard to imagine those kinds of possibilities in this moment but says the need for change is clear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What we can see depends on, also, an expression of how the paradigm that had been there before Oct. 7 is completely collapsing,” she says. “And all these contradictions just cannot be sustained anymore.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11965770/biden-pushes-for-two-state-solution-in-israeli-palestinian-conflict","authors":["byline_news_11965770"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_6631","news_33331","news_1741","news_33333","news_717","news_29475","news_17968"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11965771","label":"news_253"},"news_11965186":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11965186","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11965186","score":null,"sort":[1698055255000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"on-x-false-information-about-the-israel-hamas-war-is-spreading","title":"On X, Misinformation About the Israel-Hamas War is Spreading","publishDate":1698055255,"format":"audio","headTitle":"On X, Misinformation About the Israel-Hamas War is Spreading | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Israel-Hamas war has put Elon Musk’s transformation of Twitter to the test. Changes to its verification policy, major cuts to the company’s Trust and Safety teams, and Musk’s own rhetoric have led to a worsening in the spread of misinformation on the platform — with real life consequences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC9559977348\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-10/israel-hamas-conflict-was-a-test-for-musk-s-x-and-it-failed?srnd=undefined\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bloomberg: Israel-Hamas Conflict Was a Test for Musk’s X, and It Failed\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.404media.co/twitter-verified-osint-accounts-are-destroying-the-israel-palestine-information-ecosystem/?ref=404-media-newsletter\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Verified’ OSINT Accounts Are Destroying the Israel-Palestine Information Ecosystem\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://kqed.applytojob.com/apply/g81IJAEpax/Intern-The-Bay-Podcast\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Apply to be our intern!\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Hey, it’s Ericka. Quick announcement. We’re hiring an intern. This is a 16 hour a week paid opportunity that goes from January to June of next year. If you’ve got a passion for local news and podcasts, let’s talk. DEADLINE to apply is November 17th. The link to the app is in our show notes. All right, Here’s the show. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Just hours after Hamas gunmen slipped into Israel from the Gaza Strip, unverified photos and videos began circulating on X, formerly known as Twitter. Old repurposed images of armed conflict were being shared and passed off as new by anonymous accounts that had purchased blue checkmarks under X’s premium subscription service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>A lot of misinformers kind of flooded the zone with their own narratives and spread confusion and fear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Twitter has never really been the perfect source for reliable news. But ever since Elon Musk bought the company a year ago, the spread of misinformation on the platform has only gotten worse. And getting accurate news about Israel and Hamas on the platform feels like navigating a minefield today. Why? The Israel-Hamas conflict was a test for Elon Musk’s ex and how it failed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>It has been a mess on the platform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Davey Alba is a technology reporter for Bloomberg News.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>Beyond sort of the initial reports about the attack on Israel, there has been a steady drumbeat ever since of misinformation as Israel has turned its attention to Gaza. There’s a video of supposedly pro Hamas supporters blocking off a highway in New York ahead of the so-called Global Day of Jihad, which is when a former Hamas chief called for protests around the world. That was actually a street racer waving a Puerto Rican flag. There have been videos that sought to undermine the work of real journalists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>For instance, a video circulating asserting that CNN staged footage of its news crew under attack in Israel and the audio was manipulated to serve that narrative. And there have been even just awful denials of the atrocities that are actually happening. So it’s a combination of a lot of complicated factors. We are in a fog of war, as a lot of experts have pointed out, and there are real time events and reporting that needs to happen over time before we really know what happens day to day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>As you and your colleagues have reported, the spread of this false information, as we’re seeing in this moment, seems to have increased or gotten worse because of some of these systemic changes. Can you sort of tick through some of these these changes that have led to kind of what we’re seeing now?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>The company loosened its platforms, rules, cut trust and safety employees after previously saying it would expand the team, reinstated banned accounts and allowed people to pay for a check mark on X. I’ll start with the cutting of the Trust and Safety team. Those are the folks who were focused on making sure that users had a safe experience on the site. And that means limiting, upsetting, offensive, hateful content. One thing that they put into place is a verification system where they had verified thousands of notable people who work in journalism, in media, have official positions, and beside their names there would be a checkmark that showed that Twitter itself had verified those folks in place of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>Anyone can buy a verified checkmark, the blue checkmark, as they call it. Getting the check mark now allows you to possibly reach audiences even more, given the algorithmic boost that Twitter gives the people who purchase this checkmark. And so, you know, if you’re Amazon former, then you might be motivated to sign up for that verification that that X premium program, as they call it. One thing that happened in just the past few days is an account of someone who claimed to be a journalist from Jazeera posted that they had seen a Hamas bomb fall on a hospital in Gaza. This account was verified with a check mark. Under the new system where anyone can buy a check mark for $8 a month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>It took a while for people to point out that this person actually didn’t work for Al Jazeera. Eventually the account was suspended. But that’s the sort of thing that is really dangerous when you just glance at the platform and you see all these markers that are supposed to make you trust things that you see on the site. And the reality is that you can’t really trust anything on it right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>It sounds like a new kind of system that actually rewards misinformation and people who spread misinformation on the platform. But there’s also Elon Musk himself. Right. And his rhetoric, his attempt to sort of rebrand Twitter. How has his rhetoric also contributed to some of this stuff we’re talking about?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>When Elon Musk finally stepped into the CEO role, there was a huge surge in hateful speech. Elon Musk has said that he wants Twitter X to be the haven for all free speech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Elon Musk: \u003c/strong>A good sign as to whether there is free speech is is someone you don’t like allowed to say something you don’t like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>A lot of people who post on Twitter take that as well. Oh, now I can say anything anti-Semitic tropes, racist slurs. I think a similar thing is happening with the misinformation around the Israel Gaza conflict in this conflict. He has recommended two accounts that have a track record of spreading misinformation or just unverified information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Where does that all sort of leave people who are still on this platform? I mean, myself included, who are I mean, just people who are trying to figure out, like in good faith what the hell is going on in the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>Researchers I talked to in the space have told me that this is unfair and that enormous companies with years of experience and vast reach should be the ones to ensure that the people on their platforms are safe. And that is not what appears to be happening on a basic level. One feature that I will highlight under Elon Musk’s Twitter is community nodes. Community Nodes is a crowdsourced feature where people who are part of the program write notes that add context to any post that’s on the site that may contain misinformation or may be misleading to people. And then people vote on those notes that appear. And if you get enough votes, it gets displayed on the site. That is a thing that replaced some of Twitter’s own decision making on misinformation that’s been going around on the site. The problem with this whole system is that Twitter has basically pushed off the responsibility of keeping everyone on the platforms safe onto the users.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, why this problem goes way beyond Elon Musk and what it means for the rest of us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Is X unique? Or is this something that we should be worried about on a larger scale, like social media platforms becoming like worse and worse places to find facts about breaking news?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>I think that there was always a risk for people to be using social media as their main way of getting their news. The platforms have shown themselves to be unreliable on this front. I think that Twitter was, you know, sort of fully in lockstep with the other social media platforms in their struggles in the past few years, as we’ve seen. Democracy’s at risk because of viral misinformation. But I think we are also transitioning into a new era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>The companies seem to think that even with all the moderation, they still get criticized heavily for their moves. And so our reporting has found that there has been a move away writ large from humans looking at the content and making judgment calls and moderating to more automated systems. Maybe the platforms feel like they can’t really win.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>It has also been a difficult economic year with lots of layoffs across all of the Silicon Valley companies. This sort of content moderation doesn’t sort of add to investor value. There’s also more broadly a trend by governments, including our own government, making the case that these platforms should not engage in censorship. This is usually coming from Republican lawmakers in Congress. There’s all sorts of subpoenas and groups that have called on there to be less coordination between local governments and some of these platforms around election posts, things like that. There’s a lot of pushback on even the idea of misinformation which has become so politicized. And we’re sort of entering a scary new era with Twitter taking the charge into rolling everything back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>How would you maybe explain to someone like why it still matters what Elon Musk decides to do with this company? Because, I mean, I guess you could argue that no one has to be on Twitter or X, but why does it still matter?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>I think it matters because the reach of the posts is still enormous. And from my past reporting on this misinformation, be it, you can see that the problem is really a cross-platform one. Whether something starts on X and then spreads to Facebook or on conservative talk radio. These posts that carry false information are designed to elicit a specific reaction from people. Outrage, ideas of violence. And we’re already starting to see the consequences of some of these things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 2: \u003c/strong>Thousands of people packing a mosque in Bridgeview to mourn the death of a six year old Palestinian American boy allegedly murdered because of his Muslim faith.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That boy’s name is Wadi Alpha Yumi. He and his mother were attacked in their place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>There was a six year old boy who was killed after the landlord of the building he lived in, had spent hours listening to news on the radio about Israel and Gaza. And I think there is a risk of more tragedies like that. Users now carry a much greater responsibility to verify what they see on these platforms. All the knowledge that they have at their fingertips and the years of experience people have had from being on these platforms for, you know, a decade now. There’s this savviness that people have to rely on, and that’s just kind of the reality of where we are right now. I always think about misinformation as a community effort. You know, there’s not one NGO or one media company or one great CEO that’s going to solve the problem. It’s when everyone has an awareness of their civic responsibility and this good faith to try to make sure that everyone else around them is safe and informed and knows what is fact and what is fiction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Davey, thank you so much for sharing your reporting with us. I really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>Thanks for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Davey Alba, a technology reporter for Bloomberg News. We’ll leave you a link to Davey’s reporting on this story in our show notes. This conversation with Davey was cut down by producer Maria Esquinca. It was scored by senior editor Alan Montecillo with music courtesy of the audio network. Additional production support from me. The Bay is a production of member supported KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka. Cruz Guevarra. Thanks for listening. 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Changes to its verification policy, major cuts to the company’s Trust and Safety teams, and Musk’s own rhetoric have led to a worsening in the spread of misinformation on the platform — with real life consequences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC9559977348\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-10/israel-hamas-conflict-was-a-test-for-musk-s-x-and-it-failed?srnd=undefined\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bloomberg: Israel-Hamas Conflict Was a Test for Musk’s X, and It Failed\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.404media.co/twitter-verified-osint-accounts-are-destroying-the-israel-palestine-information-ecosystem/?ref=404-media-newsletter\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Verified’ OSINT Accounts Are Destroying the Israel-Palestine Information Ecosystem\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://kqed.applytojob.com/apply/g81IJAEpax/Intern-The-Bay-Podcast\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Apply to be our intern!\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Hey, it’s Ericka. Quick announcement. We’re hiring an intern. This is a 16 hour a week paid opportunity that goes from January to June of next year. If you’ve got a passion for local news and podcasts, let’s talk. DEADLINE to apply is November 17th. The link to the app is in our show notes. All right, Here’s the show. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Just hours after Hamas gunmen slipped into Israel from the Gaza Strip, unverified photos and videos began circulating on X, formerly known as Twitter. Old repurposed images of armed conflict were being shared and passed off as new by anonymous accounts that had purchased blue checkmarks under X’s premium subscription service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>A lot of misinformers kind of flooded the zone with their own narratives and spread confusion and fear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Twitter has never really been the perfect source for reliable news. But ever since Elon Musk bought the company a year ago, the spread of misinformation on the platform has only gotten worse. And getting accurate news about Israel and Hamas on the platform feels like navigating a minefield today. Why? The Israel-Hamas conflict was a test for Elon Musk’s ex and how it failed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>It has been a mess on the platform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Davey Alba is a technology reporter for Bloomberg News.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>Beyond sort of the initial reports about the attack on Israel, there has been a steady drumbeat ever since of misinformation as Israel has turned its attention to Gaza. There’s a video of supposedly pro Hamas supporters blocking off a highway in New York ahead of the so-called Global Day of Jihad, which is when a former Hamas chief called for protests around the world. That was actually a street racer waving a Puerto Rican flag. There have been videos that sought to undermine the work of real journalists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>For instance, a video circulating asserting that CNN staged footage of its news crew under attack in Israel and the audio was manipulated to serve that narrative. And there have been even just awful denials of the atrocities that are actually happening. So it’s a combination of a lot of complicated factors. We are in a fog of war, as a lot of experts have pointed out, and there are real time events and reporting that needs to happen over time before we really know what happens day to day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>As you and your colleagues have reported, the spread of this false information, as we’re seeing in this moment, seems to have increased or gotten worse because of some of these systemic changes. Can you sort of tick through some of these these changes that have led to kind of what we’re seeing now?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>The company loosened its platforms, rules, cut trust and safety employees after previously saying it would expand the team, reinstated banned accounts and allowed people to pay for a check mark on X. I’ll start with the cutting of the Trust and Safety team. Those are the folks who were focused on making sure that users had a safe experience on the site. And that means limiting, upsetting, offensive, hateful content. One thing that they put into place is a verification system where they had verified thousands of notable people who work in journalism, in media, have official positions, and beside their names there would be a checkmark that showed that Twitter itself had verified those folks in place of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>Anyone can buy a verified checkmark, the blue checkmark, as they call it. Getting the check mark now allows you to possibly reach audiences even more, given the algorithmic boost that Twitter gives the people who purchase this checkmark. And so, you know, if you’re Amazon former, then you might be motivated to sign up for that verification that that X premium program, as they call it. One thing that happened in just the past few days is an account of someone who claimed to be a journalist from Jazeera posted that they had seen a Hamas bomb fall on a hospital in Gaza. This account was verified with a check mark. Under the new system where anyone can buy a check mark for $8 a month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>It took a while for people to point out that this person actually didn’t work for Al Jazeera. Eventually the account was suspended. But that’s the sort of thing that is really dangerous when you just glance at the platform and you see all these markers that are supposed to make you trust things that you see on the site. And the reality is that you can’t really trust anything on it right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>It sounds like a new kind of system that actually rewards misinformation and people who spread misinformation on the platform. But there’s also Elon Musk himself. Right. And his rhetoric, his attempt to sort of rebrand Twitter. How has his rhetoric also contributed to some of this stuff we’re talking about?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>When Elon Musk finally stepped into the CEO role, there was a huge surge in hateful speech. Elon Musk has said that he wants Twitter X to be the haven for all free speech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Elon Musk: \u003c/strong>A good sign as to whether there is free speech is is someone you don’t like allowed to say something you don’t like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>A lot of people who post on Twitter take that as well. Oh, now I can say anything anti-Semitic tropes, racist slurs. I think a similar thing is happening with the misinformation around the Israel Gaza conflict in this conflict. He has recommended two accounts that have a track record of spreading misinformation or just unverified information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Where does that all sort of leave people who are still on this platform? I mean, myself included, who are I mean, just people who are trying to figure out, like in good faith what the hell is going on in the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>Researchers I talked to in the space have told me that this is unfair and that enormous companies with years of experience and vast reach should be the ones to ensure that the people on their platforms are safe. And that is not what appears to be happening on a basic level. One feature that I will highlight under Elon Musk’s Twitter is community nodes. Community Nodes is a crowdsourced feature where people who are part of the program write notes that add context to any post that’s on the site that may contain misinformation or may be misleading to people. And then people vote on those notes that appear. And if you get enough votes, it gets displayed on the site. That is a thing that replaced some of Twitter’s own decision making on misinformation that’s been going around on the site. The problem with this whole system is that Twitter has basically pushed off the responsibility of keeping everyone on the platforms safe onto the users.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, why this problem goes way beyond Elon Musk and what it means for the rest of us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Is X unique? Or is this something that we should be worried about on a larger scale, like social media platforms becoming like worse and worse places to find facts about breaking news?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>I think that there was always a risk for people to be using social media as their main way of getting their news. The platforms have shown themselves to be unreliable on this front. I think that Twitter was, you know, sort of fully in lockstep with the other social media platforms in their struggles in the past few years, as we’ve seen. Democracy’s at risk because of viral misinformation. But I think we are also transitioning into a new era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>The companies seem to think that even with all the moderation, they still get criticized heavily for their moves. And so our reporting has found that there has been a move away writ large from humans looking at the content and making judgment calls and moderating to more automated systems. Maybe the platforms feel like they can’t really win.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>It has also been a difficult economic year with lots of layoffs across all of the Silicon Valley companies. This sort of content moderation doesn’t sort of add to investor value. There’s also more broadly a trend by governments, including our own government, making the case that these platforms should not engage in censorship. This is usually coming from Republican lawmakers in Congress. There’s all sorts of subpoenas and groups that have called on there to be less coordination between local governments and some of these platforms around election posts, things like that. There’s a lot of pushback on even the idea of misinformation which has become so politicized. And we’re sort of entering a scary new era with Twitter taking the charge into rolling everything back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>How would you maybe explain to someone like why it still matters what Elon Musk decides to do with this company? Because, I mean, I guess you could argue that no one has to be on Twitter or X, but why does it still matter?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>I think it matters because the reach of the posts is still enormous. And from my past reporting on this misinformation, be it, you can see that the problem is really a cross-platform one. Whether something starts on X and then spreads to Facebook or on conservative talk radio. These posts that carry false information are designed to elicit a specific reaction from people. Outrage, ideas of violence. And we’re already starting to see the consequences of some of these things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 2: \u003c/strong>Thousands of people packing a mosque in Bridgeview to mourn the death of a six year old Palestinian American boy allegedly murdered because of his Muslim faith.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That boy’s name is Wadi Alpha Yumi. He and his mother were attacked in their place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>There was a six year old boy who was killed after the landlord of the building he lived in, had spent hours listening to news on the radio about Israel and Gaza. And I think there is a risk of more tragedies like that. Users now carry a much greater responsibility to verify what they see on these platforms. All the knowledge that they have at their fingertips and the years of experience people have had from being on these platforms for, you know, a decade now. There’s this savviness that people have to rely on, and that’s just kind of the reality of where we are right now. I always think about misinformation as a community effort. You know, there’s not one NGO or one media company or one great CEO that’s going to solve the problem. It’s when everyone has an awareness of their civic responsibility and this good faith to try to make sure that everyone else around them is safe and informed and knows what is fact and what is fiction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Davey, thank you so much for sharing your reporting with us. I really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davey Alba: \u003c/strong>Thanks for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Davey Alba, a technology reporter for Bloomberg News. We’ll leave you a link to Davey’s reporting on this story in our show notes. This conversation with Davey was cut down by producer Maria Esquinca. It was scored by senior editor Alan Montecillo with music courtesy of the audio network. Additional production support from me. The Bay is a production of member supported KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka. Cruz Guevarra. Thanks for listening. Talk to you next time.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11965186/on-x-false-information-about-the-israel-hamas-war-is-spreading","authors":["8654","11802","11649"],"programs":["news_28779"],"categories":["news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_3897","news_6631","news_1741","news_26264","news_29475","news_22598","news_346"],"featImg":"news_11965188","label":"source_news_11965186"},"news_11963865":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11963865","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11963865","score":null,"sort":[1696900488000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"bay-area-residents-react-to-the-israeli-and-palestinian-conflict","title":"Bay Area Residents React to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict","publishDate":1696900488,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Bay Area Residents React to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>In several American cities, backers of the Palestinian cause and supporters of Israel held protests and vigils in response to the attacks by the militant group Hamas on Israeli civilians over the weekend. The conflict has resulted in hundreds of deaths and thousands wounded. Hamas claims it is holding \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-music-festival-6a55aae2375944f10ecc4c52d05f2ffe\">more than 100 Israelis\u003c/a> as hostages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Francisco, hundreds gathered outside the Israeli Consulate in Montgomery Street on Sunday in support of the Palestinian people and to demand an end to the United States’ military aid to the Israeli government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Manny Yekutiel, board member, San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency\"]‘No one, especially no child, should have to feel that fear. And unfortunately, that is happening in Israel and that is happening in Palestine.’[/pullquote]“It is 2 million people living in prison, what we want is for those 2 million people to be free in Gaza, we want all Palestinians to be able to live on their ancestral lands,” said Waseem Hajj with the Arab Resource and Organizing Center based in San Francisco, one of the groups that organized the Sunday rally. “We want the occupation over. And, in particular, we here in the United States demand that this government stop its complicity with the Israeli apartheid system.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963856\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963856\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt='A person wearing a red headscarf with \"Free Gaza\" written on their cheek.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Haneen Hammad, with ‘Free Gaza’ painted on her face, listens to speeches by community leaders during a pro-Palestine protest in San Francisco on Oct. 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hajj stressed that there is a complex history behind the recent violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When people are caged, they want to be free. You cannot trap 2 million people in … the world’s largest open-air prison and not expect them to fight tooth-and-nail for their freedom,” said Hajj. “You can’t expect people to roll over and die. You can’t expect Palestinians to do that. And so I think what I would ask is why have we allowed the situation?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Protesters held up signs and waved Palestinian flags. Nearby, a group supporting Israel also waved flags and held signs. At one point, a scuffle erupted between the two groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963855\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963855 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A large group of people in an urban setting waving red, black, white and green flags.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A crowd of thousands of pro-Palestine protestors gather in the Embarcadero in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A service held Sunday at Congregation Sherith Israel in San Francisco attracted hundreds voicing support for Israel. Among those present was former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who condemned the attack by Hamas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What they did was outside the circle of civilized human behavior,” said Pelosi. U.S. officials say they plan to send additional military equipment and ammunition to Israel in the coming days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963851\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963851 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A group of people holding white and blue flags chant and yell in an urban setting.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pro-Israel supporters shout and chant back at pro-Palestine supporters in front of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11873860,news_11874353\" label=\"Related Stories\"]Bay Area residents with ties to Israel and the Palestinian territories are watching in horror as many civilians — sometimes friends and relatives — cling to safety amid ongoing violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Manny Yekutiel, owner of Manny’s restaurant and a San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency board member, arrived in Israel late last week for family and religious celebrations. His trip was disrupted by the deadliest attack on Israeli civilians in half a century on Saturday and spoke of the human toll as explosions took place above him in Tel Aviv.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No one, especially no child, should have to feel that fear,” said Yekutiel. “And unfortunately, that is happening in Israel and that is happening in Palestine.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said most of the citizens are sheltering in place, while he and others have joined a large volunteer effort to bring food, water and clothing to those in need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We all need to help each other get through this extremely unprecedented time,” said Yekutiel. “And there’s a lot of pain in the air, too. Imagine someone of your own family being kidnapped and taken away. And so there’s this feeling of duty as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963854\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963854 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person with their fist raised in a large crowd of people in an urban setting.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A pro-Palestine protestor chants along with the crowd as they move through the streets in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Watching the images pour out from places she’s called home is both fresh and familiar for Palestinian American poet Priscilla Wathington who now lives in Daly City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As a human, I can feel the suffering and feel intense grief for the suffering of every human in the world and at the same time consider structural elements,” said Wathington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wathington wishes more of her fellow Americans would take an interest in U.S. foreign policy toward Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, saying U.S. efforts should focus on ensuring that everyone in the region has full human rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963852\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963852 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person is restrained by uniformed officers while yelling in a large group of people.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A scuffle erupts from high tensions between a pro-Israel and a pro-Palestine crowd during a protest in front of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Gabriel Yankulin of San Francisco attended the service at Congregation Sherith Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think a lot of Jews feel connected to that land,” he said. “When something happens [there], we feel it here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said he is hoping for an end to the violence. “To stop senseless murder, to stop and to just seek peace … the solution is peace. Nobody wants more killing. So that’s the most important part. That’s what I hope for. And I think every single person here hopes for the same thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hamas officials cited long-simmering tensions including a dispute over the sensitive Al-Aqsa Mosque sacred to both Muslims and Jews. Competing claims over the site, known to Jews as the Temple Mount, have spilled into violence before, including a bloody 11-day war between Israel and Hamas in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In recent years, Israeli religious nationalists — such as Itamar Ben-Gvir, the national security minister — have increased their visits to the compound. Last week, during the Jewish harvest festival of Sukkot, hundreds of ultra-Orthodox Jews and Israeli activists visited the site, prompting condemnation from Hamas and accusations that Jews were praying there in violation of the status quo agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hamas also has cited the expansion of Jewish settlements on lands Palestinians claim for a future state and Ben-Gvir’s efforts to toughen restrictions on Palestinian prisoners in Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tensions escalated with recent violent Palestinian protests. In negotiations with Qatar, Egypt and the United Nations, Hamas has pushed for Israeli concessions that could loosen the 17-year blockade on the enclave and help halt a worsening financial crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Sara Hossaini and Ted Goldberg contributed reporting to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In San Francisco, hundreds gathered outside the Israeli Consulate in Montgomery Street on Sunday in support of the Palestinian people and to demand an end to the United States' military aid to the Israeli government.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700512685,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":1138},"headData":{"title":"Bay Area Residents React to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict | KQED","description":"In San Francisco, hundreds gathered outside the Israeli Consulate in Montgomery Street on Sunday in support of the Palestinian people and to demand an end to the United States' military aid to the Israeli government.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Bay Area Residents React to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict","datePublished":"2023-10-10T01:14:48.000Z","dateModified":"2023-11-20T20:38:05.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11963865/bay-area-residents-react-to-the-israeli-and-palestinian-conflict","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In several American cities, backers of the Palestinian cause and supporters of Israel held protests and vigils in response to the attacks by the militant group Hamas on Israeli civilians over the weekend. The conflict has resulted in hundreds of deaths and thousands wounded. Hamas claims it is holding \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-music-festival-6a55aae2375944f10ecc4c52d05f2ffe\">more than 100 Israelis\u003c/a> as hostages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Francisco, hundreds gathered outside the Israeli Consulate in Montgomery Street on Sunday in support of the Palestinian people and to demand an end to the United States’ military aid to the Israeli government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘No one, especially no child, should have to feel that fear. And unfortunately, that is happening in Israel and that is happening in Palestine.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Manny Yekutiel, board member, San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“It is 2 million people living in prison, what we want is for those 2 million people to be free in Gaza, we want all Palestinians to be able to live on their ancestral lands,” said Waseem Hajj with the Arab Resource and Organizing Center based in San Francisco, one of the groups that organized the Sunday rally. “We want the occupation over. And, in particular, we here in the United States demand that this government stop its complicity with the Israeli apartheid system.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963856\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11963856\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt='A person wearing a red headscarf with \"Free Gaza\" written on their cheek.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-21-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Haneen Hammad, with ‘Free Gaza’ painted on her face, listens to speeches by community leaders during a pro-Palestine protest in San Francisco on Oct. 8, 2023. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hajj stressed that there is a complex history behind the recent violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When people are caged, they want to be free. You cannot trap 2 million people in … the world’s largest open-air prison and not expect them to fight tooth-and-nail for their freedom,” said Hajj. “You can’t expect people to roll over and die. You can’t expect Palestinians to do that. And so I think what I would ask is why have we allowed the situation?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Protesters held up signs and waved Palestinian flags. Nearby, a group supporting Israel also waved flags and held signs. At one point, a scuffle erupted between the two groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963855\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963855 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A large group of people in an urban setting waving red, black, white and green flags.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-16-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A crowd of thousands of pro-Palestine protestors gather in the Embarcadero in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A service held Sunday at Congregation Sherith Israel in San Francisco attracted hundreds voicing support for Israel. Among those present was former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who condemned the attack by Hamas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What they did was outside the circle of civilized human behavior,” said Pelosi. U.S. officials say they plan to send additional military equipment and ammunition to Israel in the coming days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963851\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963851 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A group of people holding white and blue flags chant and yell in an urban setting.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-03-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pro-Israel supporters shout and chant back at pro-Palestine supporters in front of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11873860,news_11874353","label":"Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Bay Area residents with ties to Israel and the Palestinian territories are watching in horror as many civilians — sometimes friends and relatives — cling to safety amid ongoing violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Manny Yekutiel, owner of Manny’s restaurant and a San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency board member, arrived in Israel late last week for family and religious celebrations. His trip was disrupted by the deadliest attack on Israeli civilians in half a century on Saturday and spoke of the human toll as explosions took place above him in Tel Aviv.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No one, especially no child, should have to feel that fear,” said Yekutiel. “And unfortunately, that is happening in Israel and that is happening in Palestine.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said most of the citizens are sheltering in place, while he and others have joined a large volunteer effort to bring food, water and clothing to those in need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We all need to help each other get through this extremely unprecedented time,” said Yekutiel. “And there’s a lot of pain in the air, too. Imagine someone of your own family being kidnapped and taken away. And so there’s this feeling of duty as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963854\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963854 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person with their fist raised in a large crowd of people in an urban setting.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-10-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A pro-Palestine protestor chants along with the crowd as they move through the streets in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Watching the images pour out from places she’s called home is both fresh and familiar for Palestinian American poet Priscilla Wathington who now lives in Daly City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As a human, I can feel the suffering and feel intense grief for the suffering of every human in the world and at the same time consider structural elements,” said Wathington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wathington wishes more of her fellow Americans would take an interest in U.S. foreign policy toward Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, saying U.S. efforts should focus on ensuring that everyone in the region has full human rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11963852\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11963852 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person is restrained by uniformed officers while yelling in a large group of people.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/231008-Pro-Palestine-March-in-San-Francisco-07-AC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A scuffle erupts from high tensions between a pro-Israel and a pro-Palestine crowd during a protest in front of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Gabriel Yankulin of San Francisco attended the service at Congregation Sherith Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think a lot of Jews feel connected to that land,” he said. “When something happens [there], we feel it here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said he is hoping for an end to the violence. “To stop senseless murder, to stop and to just seek peace … the solution is peace. Nobody wants more killing. So that’s the most important part. That’s what I hope for. And I think every single person here hopes for the same thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hamas officials cited long-simmering tensions including a dispute over the sensitive Al-Aqsa Mosque sacred to both Muslims and Jews. Competing claims over the site, known to Jews as the Temple Mount, have spilled into violence before, including a bloody 11-day war between Israel and Hamas in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In recent years, Israeli religious nationalists — such as Itamar Ben-Gvir, the national security minister — have increased their visits to the compound. Last week, during the Jewish harvest festival of Sukkot, hundreds of ultra-Orthodox Jews and Israeli activists visited the site, prompting condemnation from Hamas and accusations that Jews were praying there in violation of the status quo agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hamas also has cited the expansion of Jewish settlements on lands Palestinians claim for a future state and Ben-Gvir’s efforts to toughen restrictions on Palestinian prisoners in Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tensions escalated with recent violent Palestinian protests. In negotiations with Qatar, Egypt and the United Nations, Hamas has pushed for Israeli concessions that could loosen the 17-year blockade on the enclave and help halt a worsening financial crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Sara Hossaini and Ted Goldberg contributed reporting to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11963865/bay-area-residents-react-to-the-israeli-and-palestinian-conflict","authors":["237"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_27626","news_6631","news_1741","news_33333","news_29475"],"featImg":"news_11963853","label":"news"},"news_11874353":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11874353","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11874353","score":null,"sort":[1621539743000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"pro-palestinian-demonstrators-rally-at-san-franciscos-israeli-consulate-demanding-more-than-just-ceasefire","title":"Pro-Palestinian Demonstrators Rally at SF's Israeli Consulate in Lead Up to Cease-Fire","publishDate":1621539743,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Pro-Palestinian Demonstrators Rally at SF’s Israeli Consulate in Lead Up to Cease-Fire | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Over 1,000 protesters gathered in front of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco on Tuesday in solidarity with a general strike staged by Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and Israel in response to ongoing attacks by the Israeli military.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The local action, among \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/05/19/998191383/u-s-scenes-of-protest-over-the-violence-in-gaza-and-israel\">scores of similar demonstrations\u003c/a> across the United States, comes as pressure grew on President Biden to push for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, the Palestinian militant group fighting from Gaza.[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Leiya Kadah, Bay Area high school student\"]‘My parents have always taught me that in Islam, the least you can do if you see injustice: If you can fight against it, then fight it.’[/pullquote]On Wednesday, Biden purportedly told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he expects “a significant de-escalation today on the path to a ceasefire,” according to a statement from the White House.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Israel \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/gaza-israel-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-caac81bc36fe9be67ac2f7c27000c74b\">unleashed another wave\u003c/a> of airstrikes across Gaza early Thursday, killing at least one Palestinian and wounding several others, while Hamas continued firing rockets into Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Later Thursday, the Israeli Cabinet \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/05/20/998644377/israels-cabinet-announces-unilateral-cease-fire-in-gaza-conflict\">said they have voted for a cease-fire plan\u003c/a> after 11 days of fighting. Hamas spokesman Hazem Al Qassem said the militant group is open to a cease-fire if Israel stops its airstrikes on Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, many pro-Palestinian demonstrators in the U.S. insist a ceasefire does not go far enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We will not stop coming out, resisting and raising our voices for Palestinian liberation until Palestine is free from the river to the sea,” said Wassim Hage, 26, a member of the Bay Area chapter of the \u003ca href=\"http://araborganizing.org/\">Arab Resource and Organizing Center\u003c/a> (AROC), a pro-Palestine group that helped organize Tuesday’s rally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11874461\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11874461\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protester Jahmeih AlJahmi holds a sign that reads, ‘From the River to the Sea Palestine will be Free’ during a pro-Palestine rally outside of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco on May 18, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Demonstrators filled an intersection in the heart of San Francisco’s Financial District, chanting in English, Arabic and Spanish for a free Palestine. Many hoisted Palestinian flags and \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffiyeh\">wore keffiyehs\u003c/a>, the colorful fabrics standing out against the grey palette of the city’s skyscrapers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dozens of San Francisco police officers were deployed in front of the building housing the Israeli Consulate, with a fence blocking the entrance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of Thursday, at least 230 Palestinians, including 65 children, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/gaza-israel-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-caac81bc36fe9be67ac2f7c27000c74b\">had been killed in the now 11-day-old conflict\u003c/a>, according to the Gaza Health Ministry, which does not break the numbers down into fighters and civilians. At least 58,000 Palestinians have fled their homes, as Israeli bombs continue to wreak devastation on the densely populated region.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hamas, meanwhile, has fired thousands of rockets into Israel, killing at least 12 people, including two children.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement released during the protest, a representative of the Israeli Consulate said, “Israel remains committed to peace and stability and has made several attempts to de-escalate this crisis only to be met with thousands of Hamas rocket attacks, killing both Israelis and Palestinians.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite mounting pressure from the U.S., Netanyahu has maintained that Israel \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/israel-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-health-coronavirus-pandemic-9b59e6d675531576e819b6b948eba99d\">will continue to bombard Gaza\u003c/a> until it has sufficiently disabled Hamas’ military capability and prevented it from firing more rockets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s critical that there’s a series of actions over the course of weeks and over the course of time, because the violence and ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is something that is not stopping,” Hage said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11874462\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11874462 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A line of police stand in front of the Israeli Consulate during a rally in solidarity with Palestine in San Francisco on May 18, 2021.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1278\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1536x1022.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A line of police stand in front of the Israeli Consulate during Tuesday’s rally in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The current conflict, the first major flare-up between Palestinians and Israelis since 2014, has also shed renewed light on the vast military aid the U.S. has long funneled to Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several prominent U.S. elected officials have strongly condemned Israel’s disproportionate military response. And \u003ca href=\"https://news.yahoo.com/bernie-sanders-demands-biden-hard-171958106.html\">Sen. Bernie Sanders\u003c/a>, an independent from Vermont, this week urged Biden to take a “hard look” at U.S. military aid to Israel, suggesting that it be conditional on the country’s human rights record.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"palestine\"]Israel, however, has long been one of America’s strongest allies, prompting Biden to proceed cautiously on the issue, with his administration this week \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/05/17/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-jen-psaki-may-17-2021/\">reiterating its position\u003c/a> that Israel has the right to defend itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since this most recent Israeli-Palestinian conflict erupted on May 10, coalitions of Palestinian advocacy groups in dozens of cities across the U.S. have organized rallies, raised funds for displaced Palestinians and pushed for a boycott of Israeli commerce. Earlier this week, an Israeli-owned shipping company chose not to dock one of its tankers at the Port of Oakland, following pressure from activists in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is the result of years of organizing,” said Hage. “It’s a tremendous testament to the organizing that the Palestinian movement around the world has formed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AROC and other organizations like \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/palestinianyouthmovement/\">Palestinian Youth Movement\u003c/a> (PYM) have also in recent days produced social media content about the conflict to further awareness among those unfamiliar with the situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Palestinians and allies really took to social media full-on to counteract the silence that we’ve seen ever since the Nakba,” said Zeyad Elomari, 27, a member of the Bay Area chapter of PYM, referring to the displacement of about 750,000 Palestinians shortly after the establishment of Israel in 1948.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11874463\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11874463 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Safa Choudhury holds a Palestinian flag during a rally outside of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco on May 18, 2021.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Safa Choudhury participates in Tuesday’s rally outside of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco. Her face is painted with the Palestinian flag over Gaza, the West Bank and Israel. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Elomari says his grandfather was among those displaced from their homes in what is now Israel, and the painful legacy of that lives on in his family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was born as a refugee, my grandfather was born as a refugee, and his descendants are refugees because we’re not allowed in our homeland and [to] live there if we wish to do so,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elomari says that as his parents’ generation grows older, he and his peers have the responsibility to keep marching and organizing all over the world to demand the liberation and well-being of the Palestinian people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s extremely important that we keep our traditions and culture and political identity alive because asserting our existence as Palestinians is the most important act of resistance,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leiya Kadah, 18, a high school student who also attended Tuesday’s rally in San Francisco, says her drive to support Palestinian organizing is rooted in what her family has taught her about faith and justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My parents have always taught me that in Islam, the least you can do if you see injustice: If you can fight against it, then fight it,” she said. “If you can stop it with your words, stop it with your words.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kadah says she has been attending Palestinian solidarity demonstrations with her family since she was in first grade, and has never grown tired of marching. “The least you can do when you see injustice is feel in your heart that this is something that is not right,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11874460\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11874460\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A man holds up his niece on his shoulders at a pro-Palestine rally outside the Israeli consulate in San Francisco.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Salim Nasser holds his niece Yasmine Twam on his shoulders during a ‘Free Palestine’ rally outside of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco on May 18, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ellen Brotsky, 68, a volunteer with the Bay Area chapter of \u003ca href=\"https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/\">Jewish Voice for Peace\u003c/a>, who also participated in Tuesday’s rally, has helped organize Palestinian solidarity efforts for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a Jewish person, she says, she feels the responsibility to have conversations with Jews from different generations about the importance of standing in solidarity with other oppressed people, and how doing so can actually further, not diminish, Israel’s security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Jewish safety comes not from a settler colonial Zionist state of Israel,” she said. “It comes from being in solidarity with everybody who is oppressed by racism, by settler colonialism.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brotsky says she continues to learn from younger Jewish activists who have had to navigate difficult political conversations with their families on this issue. For her, organizing has become a space in which multiple generations can learn from each other, while expressing care and compassion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We want to call the Jewish community in. We understand what’s been handed down, the trauma,” she said. “It takes time, it takes patience. It also takes principles. It takes a lot of organizing work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez, Sara Hossaini, NPR’s Merrit Kennedy and The Associated Press contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>This story has been updated.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As the Israeli-Palestinian conflict raged on ahead of a new cease-fire agreement announced Thursday, activists in San Francisco and across the country this week demonstrated in solidarity with Palestinians.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700512858,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":34,"wordCount":1498},"headData":{"title":"Pro-Palestinian Demonstrators Rally at SF's Israeli Consulate in Lead Up to Cease-Fire | KQED","description":"As the Israeli-Palestinian conflict raged on ahead of a new cease-fire agreement announced Thursday, activists in San Francisco and across the country this week demonstrated in solidarity with Palestinians.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Pro-Palestinian Demonstrators Rally at SF's Israeli Consulate in Lead Up to Cease-Fire","datePublished":"2021-05-20T19:42:23.000Z","dateModified":"2023-11-20T20:40:58.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11874353/pro-palestinian-demonstrators-rally-at-san-franciscos-israeli-consulate-demanding-more-than-just-ceasefire","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Over 1,000 protesters gathered in front of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco on Tuesday in solidarity with a general strike staged by Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and Israel in response to ongoing attacks by the Israeli military.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The local action, among \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/05/19/998191383/u-s-scenes-of-protest-over-the-violence-in-gaza-and-israel\">scores of similar demonstrations\u003c/a> across the United States, comes as pressure grew on President Biden to push for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, the Palestinian militant group fighting from Gaza.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘My parents have always taught me that in Islam, the least you can do if you see injustice: If you can fight against it, then fight it.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Leiya Kadah, Bay Area high school student","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>On Wednesday, Biden purportedly told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he expects “a significant de-escalation today on the path to a ceasefire,” according to a statement from the White House.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Israel \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/gaza-israel-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-caac81bc36fe9be67ac2f7c27000c74b\">unleashed another wave\u003c/a> of airstrikes across Gaza early Thursday, killing at least one Palestinian and wounding several others, while Hamas continued firing rockets into Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Later Thursday, the Israeli Cabinet \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/05/20/998644377/israels-cabinet-announces-unilateral-cease-fire-in-gaza-conflict\">said they have voted for a cease-fire plan\u003c/a> after 11 days of fighting. Hamas spokesman Hazem Al Qassem said the militant group is open to a cease-fire if Israel stops its airstrikes on Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, many pro-Palestinian demonstrators in the U.S. insist a ceasefire does not go far enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We will not stop coming out, resisting and raising our voices for Palestinian liberation until Palestine is free from the river to the sea,” said Wassim Hage, 26, a member of the Bay Area chapter of the \u003ca href=\"http://araborganizing.org/\">Arab Resource and Organizing Center\u003c/a> (AROC), a pro-Palestine group that helped organize Tuesday’s rally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11874461\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11874461\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49060_004_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protester Jahmeih AlJahmi holds a sign that reads, ‘From the River to the Sea Palestine will be Free’ during a pro-Palestine rally outside of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco on May 18, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Demonstrators filled an intersection in the heart of San Francisco’s Financial District, chanting in English, Arabic and Spanish for a free Palestine. Many hoisted Palestinian flags and \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffiyeh\">wore keffiyehs\u003c/a>, the colorful fabrics standing out against the grey palette of the city’s skyscrapers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dozens of San Francisco police officers were deployed in front of the building housing the Israeli Consulate, with a fence blocking the entrance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of Thursday, at least 230 Palestinians, including 65 children, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/gaza-israel-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-caac81bc36fe9be67ac2f7c27000c74b\">had been killed in the now 11-day-old conflict\u003c/a>, according to the Gaza Health Ministry, which does not break the numbers down into fighters and civilians. At least 58,000 Palestinians have fled their homes, as Israeli bombs continue to wreak devastation on the densely populated region.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hamas, meanwhile, has fired thousands of rockets into Israel, killing at least 12 people, including two children.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement released during the protest, a representative of the Israeli Consulate said, “Israel remains committed to peace and stability and has made several attempts to de-escalate this crisis only to be met with thousands of Hamas rocket attacks, killing both Israelis and Palestinians.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite mounting pressure from the U.S., Netanyahu has maintained that Israel \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/israel-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-health-coronavirus-pandemic-9b59e6d675531576e819b6b948eba99d\">will continue to bombard Gaza\u003c/a> until it has sufficiently disabled Hamas’ military capability and prevented it from firing more rockets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s critical that there’s a series of actions over the course of weeks and over the course of time, because the violence and ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is something that is not stopping,” Hage said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11874462\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11874462 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A line of police stand in front of the Israeli Consulate during a rally in solidarity with Palestine in San Francisco on May 18, 2021.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1278\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49102_024_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1536x1022.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A line of police stand in front of the Israeli Consulate during Tuesday’s rally in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The current conflict, the first major flare-up between Palestinians and Israelis since 2014, has also shed renewed light on the vast military aid the U.S. has long funneled to Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several prominent U.S. elected officials have strongly condemned Israel’s disproportionate military response. And \u003ca href=\"https://news.yahoo.com/bernie-sanders-demands-biden-hard-171958106.html\">Sen. Bernie Sanders\u003c/a>, an independent from Vermont, this week urged Biden to take a “hard look” at U.S. military aid to Israel, suggesting that it be conditional on the country’s human rights record.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"palestine"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Israel, however, has long been one of America’s strongest allies, prompting Biden to proceed cautiously on the issue, with his administration this week \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/05/17/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-jen-psaki-may-17-2021/\">reiterating its position\u003c/a> that Israel has the right to defend itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since this most recent Israeli-Palestinian conflict erupted on May 10, coalitions of Palestinian advocacy groups in dozens of cities across the U.S. have organized rallies, raised funds for displaced Palestinians and pushed for a boycott of Israeli commerce. Earlier this week, an Israeli-owned shipping company chose not to dock one of its tankers at the Port of Oakland, following pressure from activists in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is the result of years of organizing,” said Hage. “It’s a tremendous testament to the organizing that the Palestinian movement around the world has formed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AROC and other organizations like \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/palestinianyouthmovement/\">Palestinian Youth Movement\u003c/a> (PYM) have also in recent days produced social media content about the conflict to further awareness among those unfamiliar with the situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Palestinians and allies really took to social media full-on to counteract the silence that we’ve seen ever since the Nakba,” said Zeyad Elomari, 27, a member of the Bay Area chapter of PYM, referring to the displacement of about 750,000 Palestinians shortly after the establishment of Israel in 1948.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11874463\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11874463 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Safa Choudhury holds a Palestinian flag during a rally outside of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco on May 18, 2021.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49099_021_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Safa Choudhury participates in Tuesday’s rally outside of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco. Her face is painted with the Palestinian flag over Gaza, the West Bank and Israel. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Elomari says his grandfather was among those displaced from their homes in what is now Israel, and the painful legacy of that lives on in his family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was born as a refugee, my grandfather was born as a refugee, and his descendants are refugees because we’re not allowed in our homeland and [to] live there if we wish to do so,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elomari says that as his parents’ generation grows older, he and his peers have the responsibility to keep marching and organizing all over the world to demand the liberation and well-being of the Palestinian people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s extremely important that we keep our traditions and culture and political identity alive because asserting our existence as Palestinians is the most important act of resistance,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leiya Kadah, 18, a high school student who also attended Tuesday’s rally in San Francisco, says her drive to support Palestinian organizing is rooted in what her family has taught her about faith and justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My parents have always taught me that in Islam, the least you can do if you see injustice: If you can fight against it, then fight it,” she said. “If you can stop it with your words, stop it with your words.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kadah says she has been attending Palestinian solidarity demonstrations with her family since she was in first grade, and has never grown tired of marching. “The least you can do when you see injustice is feel in your heart that this is something that is not right,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11874460\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11874460\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A man holds up his niece on his shoulders at a pro-Palestine rally outside the Israeli consulate in San Francisco.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49069_013_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05182021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Salim Nasser holds his niece Yasmine Twam on his shoulders during a ‘Free Palestine’ rally outside of the Israeli Consulate in San Francisco on May 18, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ellen Brotsky, 68, a volunteer with the Bay Area chapter of \u003ca href=\"https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/\">Jewish Voice for Peace\u003c/a>, who also participated in Tuesday’s rally, has helped organize Palestinian solidarity efforts for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a Jewish person, she says, she feels the responsibility to have conversations with Jews from different generations about the importance of standing in solidarity with other oppressed people, and how doing so can actually further, not diminish, Israel’s security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Jewish safety comes not from a settler colonial Zionist state of Israel,” she said. “It comes from being in solidarity with everybody who is oppressed by racism, by settler colonialism.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brotsky says she continues to learn from younger Jewish activists who have had to navigate difficult political conversations with their families on this issue. For her, organizing has become a space in which multiple generations can learn from each other, while expressing care and compassion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We want to call the Jewish community in. We understand what’s been handed down, the trauma,” she said. “It takes time, it takes patience. It also takes principles. It takes a lot of organizing work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez, Sara Hossaini, NPR’s Merrit Kennedy and The Associated Press contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>This story has been updated.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11874353/pro-palestinian-demonstrators-rally-at-san-franciscos-israeli-consulate-demanding-more-than-just-ceasefire","authors":["11708"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_29486","news_19442","news_29476","news_6631","news_1741","news_717","news_29475","news_1100","news_38","news_29485"],"featImg":"news_11874360","label":"news"},"news_11873860":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11873860","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11873860","score":null,"sort":[1621182983000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"thousands-march-for-free-palestine-in-san-francisco","title":"Thousands March for 'Free Palestine' in San Francisco as Airstrikes and Rocket Attacks Continue","publishDate":1621182983,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Sabreen Imtair rallied in San Francisco for her people's freedom more than 7,000 miles away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Imtair said she was born in Palestine. Her mother and siblings first lived in the Kalandia refugee camp in East Jerusalem, a place rife with overcrowding, unemployment and \"frequent incursions by Israeli Forces,\" \u003ca href=\"https://www.unrwa.org/where-we-work/west-bank/kalandia-camp\">according to the United Nations\u003c/a>. Her grandmother has often spoken reverently of caring for the land, like the olive trees her grandfather used to nurture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Saturday, as Imtair joined several thousand others at a rally and march in the city, violence continued in Israel and Gaza, disproportionally hurting Palestinian lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I am worried about them,\" Imtair said of her family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The march in the Mission District took place in solidarity \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/15/world/middleeast/nakba-day.html\">with similar demonstrations around the world\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Imtair, many at the demonstration in San Francisco were from across the Bay Area and other parts of the state, but trace roots back to Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza. Many of them called on President Biden to reduce aid to Israel because of its military assault.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11873866\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11873866 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thousands march in solidarity with Palestinians in San Francisco's Mission District on Saturday, May 15, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Beginning with speakers and poetry at 16th and Valencia streets, the swelling crowd later marched down Mission Street, shouting \"free, free Palestine!\" and waving Palestinian flags, blanketing the street in red, black, white and green.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For days, Israeli airstrikes have leveled buildings in Gaza, and Hamas rockets have rained down on Israeli cities. Violence has erupted in mixed communities where Jews and Palestinians live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After close to a week of violence, 188 people in Gaza have been killed, and eight Israelis killed, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/israel-west-bank-gaza-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-7974cc0c03897b8b21e5fc2f8c7d8a79\">according to the Associated Press\u003c/a> as of Sunday morning. More than 900 have reportedly been wounded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rally's date, May 15, also marked the Nakba, which to Palestinians means disaster or catastrophe, and refers to the displacement of about 750,000 Palestinians, \u003ca href=\"https://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees\">according to estimates from the United Nations\u003c/a>, shortly after the establishment of Israel in 1948.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/kentkessinger/status/1393701688112943106\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Thousands marched in the Free Palestine protest in San Francisco on Saturday, as seen in the citizen video footage above. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in San Francisco, Eman Ghaith, a Tracy resident, said she marched to push for the liberation of her people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ghaith says her family lives in a small village just 10 minutes away from Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/10/world/middleeast/jerusalem-protests-aqsa-palestinians.html\">which saw Israeli police raids\u003c/a> last week that left hundreds of Palestinians wounded. She says her family is under constant police surveillance and it can take two hours for them to cross through barricades to reach the mosque to pray.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11873867\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11873867 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thousands march in solidarity with Palestinians in San Francisco's Mission District on Saturday, May 15, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ghaith's father was pushed from his home in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2007/06/04/10619929/six-day-war-shaping-the-modern-middle-east\">the Six-Day War of 1967\u003c/a> and came to the United States, she said. Laws regarding who is allowed to return home — and who is not — after other such battles partly sparked the latest violence, as Palestinians living in areas settled afterward \u003ca href=\"https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-15/palestinian-families-living-in-sheikh-jarrah/100133672\">say they're victims of discriminatory housing laws that favor Israelis\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ghaith said just who has power, and who doesn't, makes a difference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't like calling it conflict. It's not a conflict. It's a colonized apartheid that has been going on since the '40s,\" Ghaith said. \"You can't call that conflict when one person is the oppressing class and one person is an oppressor. And we all know the rest is history.\" [ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mahmoud Shaqqour was also at the rally. He traces his mother's roots back to Ramallah and his father's to Nablus, both cities in the West Bank. Shaqqour said his family was displaced to Jordan and he eventually moved to Belmont.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the U.S. has given billions of dollars to Israel for decades \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/israel-bombing-gaza-stop-hamas-rockets-shows-why-its-u-ncna1267381\">to stave off threats from neighboring countries,\u003c/a> Shaqqour says the money also goes toward violence against his former home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wish U.S. is more responsible when they are giving aids to Israel,\" he said. \"I wish they look at fact and see that they used this money to kill children, and women.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11873868\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11873868 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thousands march in solidarity with Palestinians in San Francisco's Mission District on Saturday, May 15, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Israeli consulate in San Francisco calls Hamas, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/israel-west-bank-gaza-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-7974cc0c03897b8b21e5fc2f8c7d8a79\">the militant group fighting from Gaza\u003c/a>, a violent terrorist organization responsible for attacking Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As long as we see rockets fired, killing Israeli civilians and targeting the Israeli population, it is very difficult to talk about ceasefire,\" said Matan Zamir, deputy consul general of the Israeli Consulate to the Pacific Northwest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's not only our right, I think it's our duty our citizens,\" Zamir said. \"It's our obligation to make sure that we don't see 1,100 rockets fired at our civilians. I don't see any other country in the world allowing such a thing to happen.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The United Nations Security Council met Sunday to discuss the ongoing violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/UNWebTV/status/1393841630457774080?s=20\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The protesters said they also want President Biden to reduce aid to Israel because of its military assault on Gaza.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1621291685,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":854},"headData":{"title":"Thousands March for 'Free Palestine' in San Francisco as Airstrikes and Rocket Attacks Continue | KQED","description":"The protesters said they also want President Biden to reduce aid to Israel because of its military assault on Gaza.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Thousands March for 'Free Palestine' in San Francisco as Airstrikes and Rocket Attacks Continue","datePublished":"2021-05-16T16:36:23.000Z","dateModified":"2021-05-17T22:48:05.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11873860 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11873860","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/05/16/thousands-march-for-free-palestine-in-san-francisco/","disqusTitle":"Thousands March for 'Free Palestine' in San Francisco as Airstrikes and Rocket Attacks Continue","path":"/news/11873860/thousands-march-for-free-palestine-in-san-francisco","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Sabreen Imtair rallied in San Francisco for her people's freedom more than 7,000 miles away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Imtair said she was born in Palestine. Her mother and siblings first lived in the Kalandia refugee camp in East Jerusalem, a place rife with overcrowding, unemployment and \"frequent incursions by Israeli Forces,\" \u003ca href=\"https://www.unrwa.org/where-we-work/west-bank/kalandia-camp\">according to the United Nations\u003c/a>. Her grandmother has often spoken reverently of caring for the land, like the olive trees her grandfather used to nurture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Saturday, as Imtair joined several thousand others at a rally and march in the city, violence continued in Israel and Gaza, disproportionally hurting Palestinian lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I am worried about them,\" Imtair said of her family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The march in the Mission District took place in solidarity \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/15/world/middleeast/nakba-day.html\">with similar demonstrations around the world\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Imtair, many at the demonstration in San Francisco were from across the Bay Area and other parts of the state, but trace roots back to Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza. Many of them called on President Biden to reduce aid to Israel because of its military assault.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11873866\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11873866 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49048_017_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thousands march in solidarity with Palestinians in San Francisco's Mission District on Saturday, May 15, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Beginning with speakers and poetry at 16th and Valencia streets, the swelling crowd later marched down Mission Street, shouting \"free, free Palestine!\" and waving Palestinian flags, blanketing the street in red, black, white and green.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For days, Israeli airstrikes have leveled buildings in Gaza, and Hamas rockets have rained down on Israeli cities. Violence has erupted in mixed communities where Jews and Palestinians live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After close to a week of violence, 188 people in Gaza have been killed, and eight Israelis killed, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/israel-west-bank-gaza-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-7974cc0c03897b8b21e5fc2f8c7d8a79\">according to the Associated Press\u003c/a> as of Sunday morning. More than 900 have reportedly been wounded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rally's date, May 15, also marked the Nakba, which to Palestinians means disaster or catastrophe, and refers to the displacement of about 750,000 Palestinians, \u003ca href=\"https://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees\">according to estimates from the United Nations\u003c/a>, shortly after the establishment of Israel in 1948.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1393701688112943106"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Thousands marched in the Free Palestine protest in San Francisco on Saturday, as seen in the citizen video footage above. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in San Francisco, Eman Ghaith, a Tracy resident, said she marched to push for the liberation of her people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ghaith says her family lives in a small village just 10 minutes away from Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/10/world/middleeast/jerusalem-protests-aqsa-palestinians.html\">which saw Israeli police raids\u003c/a> last week that left hundreds of Palestinians wounded. She says her family is under constant police surveillance and it can take two hours for them to cross through barricades to reach the mosque to pray.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11873867\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11873867 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49049_018_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thousands march in solidarity with Palestinians in San Francisco's Mission District on Saturday, May 15, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ghaith's father was pushed from his home in \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2007/06/04/10619929/six-day-war-shaping-the-modern-middle-east\">the Six-Day War of 1967\u003c/a> and came to the United States, she said. Laws regarding who is allowed to return home — and who is not — after other such battles partly sparked the latest violence, as Palestinians living in areas settled afterward \u003ca href=\"https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-15/palestinian-families-living-in-sheikh-jarrah/100133672\">say they're victims of discriminatory housing laws that favor Israelis\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ghaith said just who has power, and who doesn't, makes a difference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't like calling it conflict. It's not a conflict. It's a colonized apartheid that has been going on since the '40s,\" Ghaith said. \"You can't call that conflict when one person is the oppressing class and one person is an oppressor. And we all know the rest is history.\" \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mahmoud Shaqqour was also at the rally. He traces his mother's roots back to Ramallah and his father's to Nablus, both cities in the West Bank. Shaqqour said his family was displaced to Jordan and he eventually moved to Belmont.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the U.S. has given billions of dollars to Israel for decades \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/israel-bombing-gaza-stop-hamas-rockets-shows-why-its-u-ncna1267381\">to stave off threats from neighboring countries,\u003c/a> Shaqqour says the money also goes toward violence against his former home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wish U.S. is more responsible when they are giving aids to Israel,\" he said. \"I wish they look at fact and see that they used this money to kill children, and women.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11873868\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11873868 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/RS49034_002_SanFrancisco_PalestineRally_05152021-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thousands march in solidarity with Palestinians in San Francisco's Mission District on Saturday, May 15, 2021. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Israeli consulate in San Francisco calls Hamas, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/israel-west-bank-gaza-middle-east-israel-palestinian-conflict-7974cc0c03897b8b21e5fc2f8c7d8a79\">the militant group fighting from Gaza\u003c/a>, a violent terrorist organization responsible for attacking Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As long as we see rockets fired, killing Israeli civilians and targeting the Israeli population, it is very difficult to talk about ceasefire,\" said Matan Zamir, deputy consul general of the Israeli Consulate to the Pacific Northwest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's not only our right, I think it's our duty our citizens,\" Zamir said. \"It's our obligation to make sure that we don't see 1,100 rockets fired at our civilians. I don't see any other country in the world allowing such a thing to happen.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The United Nations Security Council met Sunday to discuss the ongoing violence.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1393841630457774080"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11873860/thousands-march-for-free-palestine-in-san-francisco","authors":["11690","3214"],"categories":["news_28250","news_8"],"tags":["news_27626","news_29476","news_6631","news_1741","news_29475","news_38"],"featImg":"news_11873864","label":"news"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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