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Email? Google?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you answered the latter and you live in California, you might find that getting your news through Google just got harder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Steve Waldman, CEO, Rebuild Local News\"]‘This is Google sending a message that if the legislature passes the bill that they don’t like, that the newsrooms and residents of California will be punished for that.’[/pullquote]Google said it’s currently testing a process in which the tech conglomerate is \u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/news/california-journalism-preservation-act-puts-news-ecosystem-at-risk/\">“removing links to California news websites”\u003c/a> among its search results. In a blog post announcing the move, Google’s VP of Global News Partnerships, Jaffer Zaidi, stated that Google was taking this action “to prepare” for the “possible implications” of a bill making its way through the California state legislature. The bill, called the California Journalism Preservation Act (CJPA), would call upon \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/google-meta-big-tech-journalism-fee-california-lawmakers-ec3a926252f59e589e5d48b067c7904e\">tech companies to pay media outlets for posting and using their content\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response, the News/Media Alliance — a journalism advocacy organization — has called upon the Federal Trade Commission and the Department of Justice to \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-04-16/news-media-alliance-google-ftc-investigation\">“investigate whether Google is violating federal law\u003c/a> in blocking or impeding their ability to find news that they rely upon for their business, their prosperity, their pleasure, their democracy and, sometimes, their lives.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, \u003ca href=\"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/64dff94f756e010aef6c3999/t/66215bd53cc9b82db2c4f98e/1713462229252/Publisher+letter+AB+886+4.18.24.pdf\">nearly 350 local California publishers signed a letter\u003c/a> to show their support for \u003ca href=\"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/64dff94f756e010aef6c3999/t/66215bd53cc9b82db2c4f98e/1713462229252/Publisher+letter+AB+886+4.18.24.pdf\">the California Journalism Preservation Act\u003c/a>. The publishers include a variety of outlets — from large newspapers like the LA Times to ethnic media newsrooms including El Sol — who said they “stand united in our efforts to preserve journalism in California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Around 40 percent of Google Search results contain news articles,” the letter read. “Even when readers do click through and can see the ads on our sites, Google takes another 70% of each advertising dollar, as it controls digital advertising technology, the topic of an anti-trust suit that California has joined.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/sbaxter_sc/status/1778916761829789780\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, how could this change from Google affect how \u003ci>you \u003c/i>find California news?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’ve noticed some gaps in your recent Google searches or are worried, you might read below to learn more about what this means for you and your local journalism ecosystem.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How many people in California will be affected by Google removing news links?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/news/california-journalism-preservation-act-puts-news-ecosystem-at-risk/\">the April 12 statement\u003c/a>, Google’s Zaidi wrote that the blockage would be a “short-term” test for “a small percentage of California users.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11981551,news_11979306,news_11960799\" label=\"Related Stories\"]So theoretically, if you are part of the “small percentage of California users,” when you search for a news topic in California, you will \u003ci>not\u003c/i> see articles from local publications within the state like KQED, the \u003ci>San Francisco Chronicle \u003c/i>or the \u003ci>LA Times. \u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/12/google-search-blocking-california-news\">unclear how many people\u003c/a> are actually affected by this change — or \u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/news/california-journalism-preservation-act-puts-news-ecosystem-at-risk/\">how long the “test” will continue\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s also unclear if users can turn this test off in their settings. A Google spokesperson declined KQED’s request to provide any further information about the test — or who is affected — outside of \u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/news/california-journalism-preservation-act-puts-news-ecosystem-at-risk/\">the April 12 blog post\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why is this happening now?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“We’re mostly viewing this as a political attack as much as it is a technical test,” said Steve Waldman, the CEO of the nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://www.rebuildlocalnews.org/\">Rebuild Local News\u003c/a>. “This is Google sending a message that if the legislature passes the bill that they don’t like, the newsrooms and residents of California will be punished for that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waldman referenced \u003ca href=\"https://policydialogue.org/files/publications/papers/LatestVersion.pdf\">similar legislation passed in Australia and Canada\u003c/a>, which large tech companies also pushed back against.“I think, for Google, they’re looking at all these efforts to push them into providing money to publishers, and they’re thinking this is spreading around the world, and it’s creating an enormous potential liability for them,” Waldman said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re very focused on California because they’re worried that whatever comes out of California could set the template for the rest of the United States and also for other countries,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In June 2023, Instagram and Facebook’s parent company, Meta, began blocking news content from appearing in Canadian users’ feeds since \u003ca href=\"https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-13/could-meta-block-news-in-australia-after-canada-ban/103576038\">Canada required the company to pay local news publications for linking to or featuring their work\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau accused the company of “putting corporate profits ahead of people’s safety” for its decision to keep blocking news content in the country even \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/canada-wildfires-facebook-news-blocking-734a5bc05796e38a011c6c9a473efea8\">as devastating wildfires raged\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is what Canadian Instagram users see when trying to access news:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/image-2.png\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-11983350\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/image-2.png\" alt=\"A screenshot of an Instagram profile that was blocked with a message that reads "People in Canada can't see this content" with a message logo with a strike through it.\" width=\"720\" height=\"651\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/image-2.png 720w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/image-2-160x145.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meta has also \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/andymstone/status/1663951770052067338\">threatened\u003c/a> to do this again in California if the California Journalism Preservation Act were to pass. In May 2023, a Meta spokesperson stated that the company would “be forced to remove news from Facebook and Instagram rather than pay into a slush fund that primarily benefits big, out-of-state media companies under the guise of aiding California publishers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In late March, Instagram\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11980748/how-to-opt-out-of-metas-political-content-limit-on-instagram-and-threads\"> rolled out a new default setting\u003c/a> that limited posts “likely to mention governments, elections or social topics that affect a group of people and/or society at large” appearing in user’s feeds. For many, this setting was automatically set and came with little or no warning.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>So, how can I make sure \u003cem>I\u003c/em> continue to see local news online?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Regardless of whether Google’s test targets an individual in California to remove news links, Waldman said that in a landscape where news is being throttled on search or social media, audiences may need to start actively looking for it instead — since news “may not just arrive in your lap or on your screen quite the same way.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You may have to be a little more proactive in both getting it and also supporting the local media,” Waldman said. “Advertising business for local publications has kind of plummeted, and local news is not really going to survive without the support from the community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you noticed something different with your Google searches or otherwise suspect you might be part of Google’s test to limit news content in California for some users, there are other ways to find local coverage:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">Visiting a news outlet’s website directly\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">Following your preferred news outlet on social media\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">Signing up for push notifications and breaking news alerts from your preferred news outlet\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">If your news outlet has an app, downloading and viewing articles on that platform\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">If your outlet has a podcast, listen to their feed on your preferred platforms like Apple Podcasts or Stitcher\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">If your outlet is a television or radio station, tune into that station.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Waldman said that “going into an election year that’s going to be full of misinformation,” he found it “incredibly disheartening that at the moment when we should be providing more information and more news that’s reliable … Google is temporarily choking back the availability of reliable local news.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What’s the backstory of the bill Google is resisting?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The bill Google is responding to is AB 886 — \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB886\">the California Journalism Preservation Act\u003c/a> — which, if passed, would require platforms to send “a journalism usage fee payment to each eligible digital journalism provider.” This means that Google, Facebook and other tech companies would need to pay a bargained percentage of the tech company’s ad revenue to news outlets for using media outlets’ work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In return, the newsroom must use 70% of these funds to hire new reporters or support existing staff. The bill would also prohibit tech companies from retaliating against local outlets by placing their stories lower on a search result page.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AB 886 \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/12/google-search-blocking-california-news\">passed the California assembly in 2023\u003c/a>. It would need to pass the California Senate before being signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Related: \u003c/b>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">How Can I Call My Representative? A Step-by-Step Guide to the Process\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill — introduced by Buffy Wicks (CA-14) — noted that over the past 10 years, newspaper advertising has decreased by 66% and staff by 44%. Critics say that \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/09/03/909086008/study-how-the-power-of-facebook-and-google-affects-local-communities\">Facebook and Google have played a large role in this\u003c/a> breakdown by monopolizing the digital advertising market, leaving little revenue for local news outlets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Northwestern University’s \u003ca href=\"https://localnewsinitiative.northwestern.edu/projects/state-of-local-news/2023/report/\">“The State of Local News”\u003c/a> report hypothesized that by the end of 2024, “the country will have lost a third of its newspapers since 2005.” Over 500 journalists — \u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/01/journalism-layoffs-00138517\">national and local publications\u003c/a> — lost their jobs in 2024 so far, barely over four months. In California, \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-01-23/latimes-layoffs-115-newsroom-soon-shiong\">the \u003ci>LA Times \u003c/i>laid off over a hundred people in January\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In California, there’s been a 68% drop in the number of reporters since 2005,” Waldman said. “It’s a catastrophe, and it’s totally appropriate to ask the tech companies to help pay for fixing that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the journalism and First Amendment world, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/01/journalism-preservation-california-media-leverage/\">advocates of the bill\u003c/a> say it finally allows news outlets leverage over Big Tech, which they argue has gone seemingly\u003ca href=\"https://www.rollingstone.com/culture-council/articles/its-time-for-big-tech-to-stand-up-journalism-1234860906/\"> unchecked for years\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/01/preserving-california-journalism-bill-clickbait/\">Opponents\u003c/a> say the measure would incentivize clickbait and favor larger newsrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waldman said that given the bill’s current language —which is still open to potential revision — he agrees that larger out-of-state newsrooms would benefit more from the legislation than mid- to small-sized newsrooms in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have to come up with some public policies that are really helping the medium and small-sized papers and family newspapers, websites, nonprofits, Black and Hispanic newspapers, public radio,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What does Google say?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In Google’s April 12 blog post announcing the test to limit news links, the company highlights the \u003ca href=\"https://news.google.com/news-showcase/\">Google News Showcase\u003c/a>, a feed of news articles curated for users. The Google News Showcase partners with 200 new organizations in California alone, according to Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Google would now be “pausing further investments in the California news ecosystem” — including establishing new Google News Showcase partnerships, any planned expansions of Google News and the company’s product and licensing program for news organizations — “until there’s clarity on California’s regulatory environment,” Google VP Zaidi said in the blog post.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zaidi also claimed that “just 2% of queries on Google Search are news-related,” which he framed as part of a general shift in “the rapidly changing way people are looking for and consuming information.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, \u003ca href=\"https://www.techpolicy.press/the-value-of-news-content-to-google-is-way-more-than-you-think/\">a 2023 research study commissioned by Swiss media publishers\u003c/a> found that “information searches” account for \u003ca href=\"https://www.techpolicy.press/the-value-of-news-content-to-google-is-way-more-than-you-think/\">55% of all internet searches\u003c/a>, which would potentially draw from journalistic content. The research also found that the market share of Google searches that use media content results in an estimated revenue of \u003ca href=\"https://www.techpolicy.press/the-value-of-news-content-to-google-is-way-more-than-you-think/\">$440 million per year\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waldman also noted that with a company as big as Google, “just 2%” can mean a lot. “Google does place snippets of the content on their search engines,” he said. “A lot of people just look at the snippets and never click through.”.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Google is actually getting a lot of value out of the work and money that’s been invested by the news organizations in creating content.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Are there other legal proposals that are aiming to support journalism?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>The Journalism Competition & Preservation Act\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/673\">Journalism Competition & Preservation Act,\u003c/a> introduced by Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar in 2023, allows media companies to negotiate prices directly with social media companies about the use of their work. One of the co-sponsors includes the late California Sen. Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If it were enacted, \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-08/chabria-column-tech-firms-news-outlets\">research from the University of Houston\u003c/a> estimates \u003ca href=\"https://policydialogue.org/files/publications/papers/LatestVersion.pdf\">Google would owe California newsrooms $1.4 billion annually\u003c/a>, which outpaces \u003ca href=\"https://newsinitiative.withgoogle.com/about/\">the $300 million Google provides globally\u003c/a> in grants and newsroom investments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/senamyklobuchar/status/1779195270925787556?s=46&t=7BBzFwo6eYLzJIVfAlumEQ\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>California Senate Bill 1327\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California Sen. Steven Glazer introduced \u003ca href=\"https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB1327/id/2964627\">SB 1327\u003c/a>, which proposes \u003ca href=\"https://www.ojaivalleynews.com/opinion/guest_essays/opinion-in-support-of-a-journalism-tax-credit-sb-1327-glazer/article_be128aa0-fb72-11ee-a2ba-4fea6e148bf0.html\">an employment credit\u003c/a> for California newsrooms. In the bill, local media organizations that employ local, California-based staff can get a subsidy from state taxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Whatever policy that they come up with, our main point is that there’s a catastrophe unfolding in California right now,” Waldman said of the various legal proposals to support local journalism in the state. Legislators “need to do something,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the same time, “They have to be careful that they don’t accidentally make the problem worse,” Waldman said. “They need to really be attending to the needs of medium and small sized players, including ethnic media — and not just the bigger players.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Google is testing a process that removes links to California news websites from its search results to prepare for a state bill that would require the tech giant to pay media outlets for posting and using their content.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1713471351,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":51,"wordCount":2204},"headData":{"title":"Why Is Google Removing News Links for Some Californians? | KQED","description":"Google is testing a process that removes links to California news websites from its search results to prepare for a state bill that would require the tech giant to pay media outlets for posting and using their content.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Why Is Google Removing News Links for Some Californians?","datePublished":"2024-04-18T19:00:25.000Z","dateModified":"2024-04-18T20:15:51.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11983333/why-is-google-removing-news-links-for-some-californians","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Updated 1:15 p.m. Thursday \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How do you find your news: Through social media? Email? Google?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you answered the latter and you live in California, you might find that getting your news through Google just got harder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘This is Google sending a message that if the legislature passes the bill that they don’t like, that the newsrooms and residents of California will be punished for that.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Steve Waldman, CEO, Rebuild Local News","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Google said it’s currently testing a process in which the tech conglomerate is \u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/news/california-journalism-preservation-act-puts-news-ecosystem-at-risk/\">“removing links to California news websites”\u003c/a> among its search results. In a blog post announcing the move, Google’s VP of Global News Partnerships, Jaffer Zaidi, stated that Google was taking this action “to prepare” for the “possible implications” of a bill making its way through the California state legislature. The bill, called the California Journalism Preservation Act (CJPA), would call upon \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/google-meta-big-tech-journalism-fee-california-lawmakers-ec3a926252f59e589e5d48b067c7904e\">tech companies to pay media outlets for posting and using their content\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response, the News/Media Alliance — a journalism advocacy organization — has called upon the Federal Trade Commission and the Department of Justice to \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-04-16/news-media-alliance-google-ftc-investigation\">“investigate whether Google is violating federal law\u003c/a> in blocking or impeding their ability to find news that they rely upon for their business, their prosperity, their pleasure, their democracy and, sometimes, their lives.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, \u003ca href=\"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/64dff94f756e010aef6c3999/t/66215bd53cc9b82db2c4f98e/1713462229252/Publisher+letter+AB+886+4.18.24.pdf\">nearly 350 local California publishers signed a letter\u003c/a> to show their support for \u003ca href=\"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/64dff94f756e010aef6c3999/t/66215bd53cc9b82db2c4f98e/1713462229252/Publisher+letter+AB+886+4.18.24.pdf\">the California Journalism Preservation Act\u003c/a>. The publishers include a variety of outlets — from large newspapers like the LA Times to ethnic media newsrooms including El Sol — who said they “stand united in our efforts to preserve journalism in California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Around 40 percent of Google Search results contain news articles,” the letter read. “Even when readers do click through and can see the ads on our sites, Google takes another 70% of each advertising dollar, as it controls digital advertising technology, the topic of an anti-trust suit that California has joined.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1778916761829789780"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>So, how could this change from Google affect how \u003ci>you \u003c/i>find California news?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’ve noticed some gaps in your recent Google searches or are worried, you might read below to learn more about what this means for you and your local journalism ecosystem.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How many people in California will be affected by Google removing news links?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/news/california-journalism-preservation-act-puts-news-ecosystem-at-risk/\">the April 12 statement\u003c/a>, Google’s Zaidi wrote that the blockage would be a “short-term” test for “a small percentage of California users.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11981551,news_11979306,news_11960799","label":"Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>So theoretically, if you are part of the “small percentage of California users,” when you search for a news topic in California, you will \u003ci>not\u003c/i> see articles from local publications within the state like KQED, the \u003ci>San Francisco Chronicle \u003c/i>or the \u003ci>LA Times. \u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/12/google-search-blocking-california-news\">unclear how many people\u003c/a> are actually affected by this change — or \u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/news/california-journalism-preservation-act-puts-news-ecosystem-at-risk/\">how long the “test” will continue\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s also unclear if users can turn this test off in their settings. A Google spokesperson declined KQED’s request to provide any further information about the test — or who is affected — outside of \u003ca href=\"https://blog.google/products/news/california-journalism-preservation-act-puts-news-ecosystem-at-risk/\">the April 12 blog post\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why is this happening now?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“We’re mostly viewing this as a political attack as much as it is a technical test,” said Steve Waldman, the CEO of the nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://www.rebuildlocalnews.org/\">Rebuild Local News\u003c/a>. “This is Google sending a message that if the legislature passes the bill that they don’t like, the newsrooms and residents of California will be punished for that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waldman referenced \u003ca href=\"https://policydialogue.org/files/publications/papers/LatestVersion.pdf\">similar legislation passed in Australia and Canada\u003c/a>, which large tech companies also pushed back against.“I think, for Google, they’re looking at all these efforts to push them into providing money to publishers, and they’re thinking this is spreading around the world, and it’s creating an enormous potential liability for them,” Waldman said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re very focused on California because they’re worried that whatever comes out of California could set the template for the rest of the United States and also for other countries,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In June 2023, Instagram and Facebook’s parent company, Meta, began blocking news content from appearing in Canadian users’ feeds since \u003ca href=\"https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-13/could-meta-block-news-in-australia-after-canada-ban/103576038\">Canada required the company to pay local news publications for linking to or featuring their work\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau accused the company of “putting corporate profits ahead of people’s safety” for its decision to keep blocking news content in the country even \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/canada-wildfires-facebook-news-blocking-734a5bc05796e38a011c6c9a473efea8\">as devastating wildfires raged\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is what Canadian Instagram users see when trying to access news:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/image-2.png\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-11983350\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/image-2.png\" alt=\"A screenshot of an Instagram profile that was blocked with a message that reads "People in Canada can't see this content" with a message logo with a strike through it.\" width=\"720\" height=\"651\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/image-2.png 720w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/image-2-160x145.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meta has also \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/andymstone/status/1663951770052067338\">threatened\u003c/a> to do this again in California if the California Journalism Preservation Act were to pass. In May 2023, a Meta spokesperson stated that the company would “be forced to remove news from Facebook and Instagram rather than pay into a slush fund that primarily benefits big, out-of-state media companies under the guise of aiding California publishers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In late March, Instagram\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11980748/how-to-opt-out-of-metas-political-content-limit-on-instagram-and-threads\"> rolled out a new default setting\u003c/a> that limited posts “likely to mention governments, elections or social topics that affect a group of people and/or society at large” appearing in user’s feeds. For many, this setting was automatically set and came with little or no warning.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>So, how can I make sure \u003cem>I\u003c/em> continue to see local news online?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Regardless of whether Google’s test targets an individual in California to remove news links, Waldman said that in a landscape where news is being throttled on search or social media, audiences may need to start actively looking for it instead — since news “may not just arrive in your lap or on your screen quite the same way.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You may have to be a little more proactive in both getting it and also supporting the local media,” Waldman said. “Advertising business for local publications has kind of plummeted, and local news is not really going to survive without the support from the community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you noticed something different with your Google searches or otherwise suspect you might be part of Google’s test to limit news content in California for some users, there are other ways to find local coverage:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">Visiting a news outlet’s website directly\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">Following your preferred news outlet on social media\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">Signing up for push notifications and breaking news alerts from your preferred news outlet\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">If your news outlet has an app, downloading and viewing articles on that platform\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">If your outlet has a podcast, listen to their feed on your preferred platforms like Apple Podcasts or Stitcher\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">If your outlet is a television or radio station, tune into that station.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Waldman said that “going into an election year that’s going to be full of misinformation,” he found it “incredibly disheartening that at the moment when we should be providing more information and more news that’s reliable … Google is temporarily choking back the availability of reliable local news.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What’s the backstory of the bill Google is resisting?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The bill Google is responding to is AB 886 — \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB886\">the California Journalism Preservation Act\u003c/a> — which, if passed, would require platforms to send “a journalism usage fee payment to each eligible digital journalism provider.” This means that Google, Facebook and other tech companies would need to pay a bargained percentage of the tech company’s ad revenue to news outlets for using media outlets’ work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In return, the newsroom must use 70% of these funds to hire new reporters or support existing staff. The bill would also prohibit tech companies from retaliating against local outlets by placing their stories lower on a search result page.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AB 886 \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/12/google-search-blocking-california-news\">passed the California assembly in 2023\u003c/a>. It would need to pass the California Senate before being signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Related: \u003c/b>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">How Can I Call My Representative? A Step-by-Step Guide to the Process\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill — introduced by Buffy Wicks (CA-14) — noted that over the past 10 years, newspaper advertising has decreased by 66% and staff by 44%. Critics say that \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/09/03/909086008/study-how-the-power-of-facebook-and-google-affects-local-communities\">Facebook and Google have played a large role in this\u003c/a> breakdown by monopolizing the digital advertising market, leaving little revenue for local news outlets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Northwestern University’s \u003ca href=\"https://localnewsinitiative.northwestern.edu/projects/state-of-local-news/2023/report/\">“The State of Local News”\u003c/a> report hypothesized that by the end of 2024, “the country will have lost a third of its newspapers since 2005.” Over 500 journalists — \u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/01/journalism-layoffs-00138517\">national and local publications\u003c/a> — lost their jobs in 2024 so far, barely over four months. In California, \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-01-23/latimes-layoffs-115-newsroom-soon-shiong\">the \u003ci>LA Times \u003c/i>laid off over a hundred people in January\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In California, there’s been a 68% drop in the number of reporters since 2005,” Waldman said. “It’s a catastrophe, and it’s totally appropriate to ask the tech companies to help pay for fixing that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the journalism and First Amendment world, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/01/journalism-preservation-california-media-leverage/\">advocates of the bill\u003c/a> say it finally allows news outlets leverage over Big Tech, which they argue has gone seemingly\u003ca href=\"https://www.rollingstone.com/culture-council/articles/its-time-for-big-tech-to-stand-up-journalism-1234860906/\"> unchecked for years\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/01/preserving-california-journalism-bill-clickbait/\">Opponents\u003c/a> say the measure would incentivize clickbait and favor larger newsrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waldman said that given the bill’s current language —which is still open to potential revision — he agrees that larger out-of-state newsrooms would benefit more from the legislation than mid- to small-sized newsrooms in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have to come up with some public policies that are really helping the medium and small-sized papers and family newspapers, websites, nonprofits, Black and Hispanic newspapers, public radio,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What does Google say?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In Google’s April 12 blog post announcing the test to limit news links, the company highlights the \u003ca href=\"https://news.google.com/news-showcase/\">Google News Showcase\u003c/a>, a feed of news articles curated for users. The Google News Showcase partners with 200 new organizations in California alone, according to Google.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Google would now be “pausing further investments in the California news ecosystem” — including establishing new Google News Showcase partnerships, any planned expansions of Google News and the company’s product and licensing program for news organizations — “until there’s clarity on California’s regulatory environment,” Google VP Zaidi said in the blog post.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zaidi also claimed that “just 2% of queries on Google Search are news-related,” which he framed as part of a general shift in “the rapidly changing way people are looking for and consuming information.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, \u003ca href=\"https://www.techpolicy.press/the-value-of-news-content-to-google-is-way-more-than-you-think/\">a 2023 research study commissioned by Swiss media publishers\u003c/a> found that “information searches” account for \u003ca href=\"https://www.techpolicy.press/the-value-of-news-content-to-google-is-way-more-than-you-think/\">55% of all internet searches\u003c/a>, which would potentially draw from journalistic content. The research also found that the market share of Google searches that use media content results in an estimated revenue of \u003ca href=\"https://www.techpolicy.press/the-value-of-news-content-to-google-is-way-more-than-you-think/\">$440 million per year\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waldman also noted that with a company as big as Google, “just 2%” can mean a lot. “Google does place snippets of the content on their search engines,” he said. “A lot of people just look at the snippets and never click through.”.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Google is actually getting a lot of value out of the work and money that’s been invested by the news organizations in creating content.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Are there other legal proposals that are aiming to support journalism?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>The Journalism Competition & Preservation Act\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/673\">Journalism Competition & Preservation Act,\u003c/a> introduced by Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar in 2023, allows media companies to negotiate prices directly with social media companies about the use of their work. One of the co-sponsors includes the late California Sen. Dianne Feinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If it were enacted, \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-08/chabria-column-tech-firms-news-outlets\">research from the University of Houston\u003c/a> estimates \u003ca href=\"https://policydialogue.org/files/publications/papers/LatestVersion.pdf\">Google would owe California newsrooms $1.4 billion annually\u003c/a>, which outpaces \u003ca href=\"https://newsinitiative.withgoogle.com/about/\">the $300 million Google provides globally\u003c/a> in grants and newsroom investments.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1779195270925787556"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>California Senate Bill 1327\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California Sen. Steven Glazer introduced \u003ca href=\"https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB1327/id/2964627\">SB 1327\u003c/a>, which proposes \u003ca href=\"https://www.ojaivalleynews.com/opinion/guest_essays/opinion-in-support-of-a-journalism-tax-credit-sb-1327-glazer/article_be128aa0-fb72-11ee-a2ba-4fea6e148bf0.html\">an employment credit\u003c/a> for California newsrooms. In the bill, local media organizations that employ local, California-based staff can get a subsidy from state taxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Whatever policy that they come up with, our main point is that there’s a catastrophe unfolding in California right now,” Waldman said of the various legal proposals to support local journalism in the state. Legislators “need to do something,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the same time, “They have to be careful that they don’t accidentally make the problem worse,” Waldman said. “They need to really be attending to the needs of medium and small sized players, including ethnic media — and not just the bigger players.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11983333/why-is-google-removing-news-links-for-some-californians","authors":["11867"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_32707","news_2704","news_27626","news_93","news_2670","news_17996","news_33171"],"featImg":"news_11983347","label":"news"},"news_11967782":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11967782","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11967782","score":null,"sort":[1700478017000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"returning-to-joy-a-personal-story-from-ericka","title":"Returning to Joy: A Personal Story from Ericka","publishDate":1700478017,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Returning to Joy: A Personal Story from Ericka | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last summer, Ericka told a story live on stage at KQED, at an event hosted by the San Francisco chapter of the Asian American Journalists’ Association called “Hella Asian.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s a story about a camping trip she went on with her best friend during the pandemic. It’s also a story about the mental impact of the news, and her sense of safety as attacks on Asians were in the headlines. Today, we’re sharing that story again.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC8746648822&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode originally aired on Aug. 8, 2022.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the bay. Local news to keep you rooted. So did you know that our show has made over 800 episodes? I know it’s kind of a wild number, but there are so many gems in there. And this week we’re actually going to share some of those gems from our archives. Most of our episodes are, of course, about local news here in the Bay Area, but we wanted to start off with a very different kind of episode that we made back in 2020 to that summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>The San Francisco chapter of the Asian-American Journalists Association held this live community storytelling event at KQED called Hella Asian. And what you’re going to hear today is actually the story that I told before that live audience. It’s a story about a camping trip that I went on with my best friend during the pandemic. It’s also about the mental impact of journalism and the news, especially on journalists of color like myself. And it’s also a story about joy. So we’re going to share that with you today. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So back in the Myspace days, I was really into cameras and taking pictures of things. Taking pictures was a very casual hobby of mine in middle school. I would bring a digital camera to family events and just document them. And my best friend, Rochelle, she’s always been into cameras and taking pictures of things, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>In eighth grade or freshman year, you got a canon? I got a Nikon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Here’s Rochelle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>And we would just take pictures of everything and anything of each other, of our families of, you know, the car across the street. You know, just random things all the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now, a little bit about Rochelle. Rochelle and I have this matching tattoo on our arms of our childhood homes. We grew up on the same street in Sassoon City, California, in one of those suburbs where every other fourth home is the same model. Our childhood homes were identical inside and out. My favorite addendum to this fact is that we even had the same couch as kids twice. We’re also both Filipina American, so we’ve always had a lot to relate on. And photography is just another one of those things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>We rarely had pictures with each other because one was always taking pictures of the other person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Me and Rochelle have been friends for more than 20 years, and when the pandemic hit in 2020, we really didn’t see each other at all. So when the vaccine finally arrived and promised to change life in the pandemic, we got vaccine up as soon as we could and planned a camping trip. It was March of 2021. By this point, I forgot what it was like to plan things and this trip was happening all kind of last minute. But we landed on a place that we’d both never been to before. Kirby Cove in the Marin headlands. We pulled up their reservation page, and there was one available evening for late March at Campsite number one. So we booked it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>I remember we both were just talking about how stressful work was and how working from home was getting. It was getting old. I know we didn’t really see each other, so we just needed that break from. Our everyday lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now, this was my first big trip out of the house since the start of the pandemic. As a journalist, I needed a break from the news, and Rochelle needed a break from her job as a coordinator for an after school program, which she’d been running via Zoom. We hadn’t had quality time with each other in months. We both needed this. And then Atlanta happened.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>*audio from news clips*\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>By this point, I’d seen dozens of stories and photos and videos of Asian elders being beaten and attacked. Oakland and San Francisco were the epicenters of some of the most high profile incidents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>I remember during that time, like it was heavy for you. I know. For I know that like work was really stressful because of what’s because of what you just have to cover for your job. All the stories you have to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>As a producer working in local daily news, it was my job to pay attention to those things, to let them swirl in my mind and figure out how to cover them. And no matter how much I wanted to, I couldn’t look away. I always felt it was my responsibility and my job to bear witness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>A lot of elderly Asian people were, you know, being targeted for, you know, blaming us for, you know, Covid and the whole pandemic. And at that time, I was like living on edge, not for me, but like, for my parents. For your parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>When I told my dad about me and Rochelle’s camping trip, I remember him telling me If you don’t go out, nothing bad will ever happen to you. If the six Asian women and two customers killed in Atlanta never left their homes and sure, they might not have been killed by an armed white gunman who targeted Asian businesses because of his, quote, sex addiction. Sometimes when I go out, I worry my dad will prove me right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>But as journalists, we’re not really supposed to have big feelings about the stories that we work on to cover the pain of the pandemic, the failures of our institutions, police violence, attacks on the Asian community and meet our deadlines. Compartmentalizing is a necessary skill. So I spent the week of the Atlanta shooting, shoving my feelings to the back of my mind just to get through work. And by the end of the week, I was just happy to be getting away. I parked my car for one night of camping with my best friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>When we finally got to our campsite. Man, it was very I was I was speechless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Kirby Cove is this amazing grove of cypress and eucalyptus and pine with its own private little beach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>One spot that always pops up in my head was this little, like, field of calla lilies. I don’t know if you remember that. And like, the sun was just, like, hitting them from behind and like, yeah, that was just so beautiful. It was like a movie. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>One of the descriptions of Kirby Cove on the official Golden Gate National Parks Conservancy website says, quote, No other beach in the world has a view like this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>It just felt really nice to just be outdoors and enjoy the vitamin D and like also getting to do that with you. Cause I haven’t like, we haven’t seen each other for so long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now to get to our campsite, you have to walk from one end of the cove to the other. Campsite number one was the furthest from the entrance. Perched on a cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean and the Golden Gate Bridge with San Francisco on the other side. It was the best campsite on the cove. And we felt lucky because for most of the day that we arrived, we were the only ones there. Me and Rochelle pitched our tent and began exploring the cove.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Around the corner from our campsite was Battery Kirby. It’s this large slab of concrete built into the hillside and used to defend the coasts during wartime before the end of World War Two. Batteries like these contained 16 inch guns that fired 2,000 pound projectiles. When we got to battery, Kirby visitors had covered these abandoned structures in chalk drawings and messages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>I remember at first we we saw the chalk and we didn’t know. Like we were like, oh, what should we write on this? Because, you know, people were like the other drawings on there were like smiley faces, rainbows or like profanity or whatever. But we had this whole wall empty wall of. Like. Like a canvas. Like what could we write? You started writing. Stop AAPI hate. Because ours is the week leading to our camping trip. That was. It was. It was everywhere. Because maybe it was us also like, Hey, there are Asians here at this campground. Like, we don’t want any harm or whatever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Rochelle wrote, Love us like you love our food under my message on the battery wall and even think about it at the time. But there was so much irony in that act. Yet another example of gun violence in America commemorated on a slab of concrete that once housed weapons of war and domination. After we finished exploring the rest of the cove, we made our way down to the beach and touched the water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I marveled at the cliffs walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>There were these amazing indents in the earth that looked like stairs. The roots of the trees that shaded our tent above were poking out. And it was such a beautiful day. As the sun began to set, we walked back through the cove to the entrance where our car was and brought the remainder of our things to our campsite. More campers had begun showing up and pitching their own tents around the cove, and I started to take stock of who else was camping at the cove that night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>One campsite was a group of white high school boys with their one Asian friend. At another site was a group of men drinking beers who gave off a bachelor party in the wilderness vibes. I couldn’t help but notice that there weren’t any other women around or any people of color for that matter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>With the exception of the one Asian kid. And I started to become painfully aware of my body. To get anywhere. To and from our campsite. We have to pass by Battery Kirby and our chalk messages written in huge letters. But every time we passed it, there was this dread that I could not shake. I just couldn’t bear to look at it. Something inside of me was deeply paranoid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I worried we’d find our messages defaced with either some hateful message or maybe even a Nazi symbol. Something to tell me that someone who doesn’t agree with stopping Asian hate would be here. Something to prove that maybe my dad was right, that I should have just stayed home. And whether these were legitimate fears or not. I started to regret what we wrote on the battery walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Writing those messages had woken something up in me. They were reminders of the thoughts and feelings I had spent the week shoving to the back of my mind in the wilderness. Your sense of safety is warped when you’re a woman and when you’re out of the house, period. In March of 2021, your sense of safety as an Asian person is warped to. I kept these thoughts to myself, though. I tried over and over again to ignore them. By this point the sun had set and the city was glowing. The other side of our campsite was pitch black. I didn’t want any of these feelings to ruin the trip, so I stuck to the itinerary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’d printed out the New York Times’s 36 Questions that lead to Love before the trip. Me and Rochelle had planned to do this activity together after dinner. According to the preamble to the questions, the idea is that mutual vulnerability fosters closeness. And I learned things about Rochelle that I didn’t know before. I learned that she has a secret hunch about how shall die, that she thinks I am a generous person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>We talked about facts about our lives that we forgot were actually wild coincidences like the fact that our dads are from the same town in the Philippines, that they both had three daughters and that we were both the boon souls or the youngest. And how wild it was that the universe had brought their daughters together on this cliff. At that moment, we talked about her mom’s death when we were just freshman in high school, how I didn’t always know how to be helpful after that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>You apologized for like not knowing what to say during that at the time that my mom passed. But it was also like I didn’t expect anything from it when we were 14 because we were so young. And like, it’s something about, like, I never want you to experience. So it was okay. You know, I just appreciated you being here. And I think I like thanked you for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>It was the kind of conversation with your best friend that grounds you and brings you back to Earth. The kind of conversation that feels like yet another chapter for two friends just growing up and figuring out how to do life together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>It just felt like our own little, like, therapy session. And just talking about those things with you as my best friend, it just it felt good. It just felt like I got a lot off my chest, my shoulders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I only mentioned my fear and paranoia to Rochelle once. That night she asked me if it was because of the people that we pass by on our way back to the campsite. She knew. She sounded so sure when she said that we were going to be okay, and that comforted me. But I didn’t sleep at all that night. Instead, I gamed out an escape from our spot on the cliff in case someone tried to enter our tent. I even imagined waking up to a group of white men lounging in our chairs and helping themselves to all of our food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Every rustle in the leaves made my heart stop. Rosen’s brother in law slipped a knife in her bag just in case. But we accidentally left it inside of the lockbox that secures our food from wild animals. And it was dozens of feet away from our tent. I tried to focus on the sound of the ocean, but I probably slept a total of three hours that night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>We woke up pretty early. I felt like 7 a.m. and I remember, like, waking up, hearing the waves from the beach. You are already awake, I think. Mm hmm. I asked if you’re okay. And you were telling me you barely slept because you were scared from the night before. But I think just like getting out of our tent and, like, seeing that, like, everything. All our stuff was still there, you know? Mm hmm. Getting that morning sun felt really nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>When we went to the bathroom down the hill from our campsite. The group of high school boys and the bachelor party in the wilderness were all gone. We were alone again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>Like, no, no cars, nothing. Like not even a tent was there? Yeah, it was also just like a relief. Like, I guess that we were safe. Mm hmm. That was, like, the main thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Me and Rochelle ate ramen for breakfast and took in the final hours of the most amazing view of the Golden Gate Bridge before it was time to pack up and go home. A week later, I processed our camping trip in therapy. I told my therapist I’d never felt so out of control of my own mind and body. She told me that what I’d experienced was a trauma response, a direct result of my job as a journalist, and a likely culmination of all the information I was consuming about the shooting in Atlanta and the attacks on Asian people leading up to it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>It was the first time I really cried about what happened to Atlanta. In journalism school, you don’t really learn about the psychological impact of this work or how to mitigate it. And when it’s your community under attack, how do you stop yourself from having big feelings about the story? How do you compartmentalize that? For black, native, Latin, X and Asian journalists. We’re expected to do this every day under the guise of objectivity, when what we really mean to say is the guise of whiteness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>After the Atlanta shooting, Asian journalists reported being told by their superiors that they weren’t allowed to cover the story for fear that Asian reporters couldn’t cover it fairly. By telling journalists of color to remove ourselves from stories. It’s asking us to whitewash them. When in reality our experiences, our hurt, our pain and our fear only illuminate the truth. It wasn’t until weeks later that mean Rochelle developed our film from the trip. When I got the photos back, I was floored. How is it that all I see? Is joy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>One of my favorite pictures from the. It was a picture of you. You’re just facing the ocean. And in front of you was the Golden Gate Bridge. You can see faintly the Bay Bridge. I feel like we both captured, like, not just like the beauty of like, curvy cool, but like the beauty of, of us and like each other. Just like looking at those pictures. I was just like a very. Happy time in my life, even though we were both going through our own things. It didn’t. It didn’t show. That’s for sure. And those pictures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I wondered if my smiles were evidence of a sort of dissonance of how good I had gotten at compartmentalizing. But I think many things can be true at once. I’m glad that this is what I have to remember of our trip. Because they also show me that we can make art out of tragedy and pain. That when I’m afraid, fear insists that I return home to my body. That maybe this is what it looks like to return to my own body. If even for a photo, these photos remind me that it’s our friends, our family, our community who will beckon us home. That it’s them will remind us to smile for the camera. And to remember joy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>This story was originally written and produced for Hella Asian, a live community event hosted at KQED by the San Francisco chapter of the Asian-American Journalists Association. Thanks so much to the folks behind this live event, especially Ryan Davis, Cecilia Lei and Kristin Huang, who edited the live version of this story. This version was edited by Alan Montecillo. It was produced by me. Shout out also to producer Maria Esquinca for gathering some of the sound that you heard in this episode. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Thank you so much for listening. Take care. 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It’s also a story about the mental impact of the news, and her sense of safety as attacks on Asians were in the headlines. Today, we’re sharing that story again.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC8746648822&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode originally aired on Aug. 8, 2022.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the bay. Local news to keep you rooted. So did you know that our show has made over 800 episodes? I know it’s kind of a wild number, but there are so many gems in there. And this week we’re actually going to share some of those gems from our archives. Most of our episodes are, of course, about local news here in the Bay Area, but we wanted to start off with a very different kind of episode that we made back in 2020 to that summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>The San Francisco chapter of the Asian-American Journalists Association held this live community storytelling event at KQED called Hella Asian. And what you’re going to hear today is actually the story that I told before that live audience. It’s a story about a camping trip that I went on with my best friend during the pandemic. It’s also about the mental impact of journalism and the news, especially on journalists of color like myself. And it’s also a story about joy. So we’re going to share that with you today. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So back in the Myspace days, I was really into cameras and taking pictures of things. Taking pictures was a very casual hobby of mine in middle school. I would bring a digital camera to family events and just document them. And my best friend, Rochelle, she’s always been into cameras and taking pictures of things, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>In eighth grade or freshman year, you got a canon? I got a Nikon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Here’s Rochelle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>And we would just take pictures of everything and anything of each other, of our families of, you know, the car across the street. You know, just random things all the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now, a little bit about Rochelle. Rochelle and I have this matching tattoo on our arms of our childhood homes. We grew up on the same street in Sassoon City, California, in one of those suburbs where every other fourth home is the same model. Our childhood homes were identical inside and out. My favorite addendum to this fact is that we even had the same couch as kids twice. We’re also both Filipina American, so we’ve always had a lot to relate on. And photography is just another one of those things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>We rarely had pictures with each other because one was always taking pictures of the other person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Me and Rochelle have been friends for more than 20 years, and when the pandemic hit in 2020, we really didn’t see each other at all. So when the vaccine finally arrived and promised to change life in the pandemic, we got vaccine up as soon as we could and planned a camping trip. It was March of 2021. By this point, I forgot what it was like to plan things and this trip was happening all kind of last minute. But we landed on a place that we’d both never been to before. Kirby Cove in the Marin headlands. We pulled up their reservation page, and there was one available evening for late March at Campsite number one. So we booked it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>I remember we both were just talking about how stressful work was and how working from home was getting. It was getting old. I know we didn’t really see each other, so we just needed that break from. Our everyday lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now, this was my first big trip out of the house since the start of the pandemic. As a journalist, I needed a break from the news, and Rochelle needed a break from her job as a coordinator for an after school program, which she’d been running via Zoom. We hadn’t had quality time with each other in months. We both needed this. And then Atlanta happened.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>*audio from news clips*\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>By this point, I’d seen dozens of stories and photos and videos of Asian elders being beaten and attacked. Oakland and San Francisco were the epicenters of some of the most high profile incidents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>I remember during that time, like it was heavy for you. I know. For I know that like work was really stressful because of what’s because of what you just have to cover for your job. All the stories you have to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>As a producer working in local daily news, it was my job to pay attention to those things, to let them swirl in my mind and figure out how to cover them. And no matter how much I wanted to, I couldn’t look away. I always felt it was my responsibility and my job to bear witness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>A lot of elderly Asian people were, you know, being targeted for, you know, blaming us for, you know, Covid and the whole pandemic. And at that time, I was like living on edge, not for me, but like, for my parents. For your parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>When I told my dad about me and Rochelle’s camping trip, I remember him telling me If you don’t go out, nothing bad will ever happen to you. If the six Asian women and two customers killed in Atlanta never left their homes and sure, they might not have been killed by an armed white gunman who targeted Asian businesses because of his, quote, sex addiction. Sometimes when I go out, I worry my dad will prove me right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>But as journalists, we’re not really supposed to have big feelings about the stories that we work on to cover the pain of the pandemic, the failures of our institutions, police violence, attacks on the Asian community and meet our deadlines. Compartmentalizing is a necessary skill. So I spent the week of the Atlanta shooting, shoving my feelings to the back of my mind just to get through work. And by the end of the week, I was just happy to be getting away. I parked my car for one night of camping with my best friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>When we finally got to our campsite. Man, it was very I was I was speechless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Kirby Cove is this amazing grove of cypress and eucalyptus and pine with its own private little beach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>One spot that always pops up in my head was this little, like, field of calla lilies. I don’t know if you remember that. And like, the sun was just, like, hitting them from behind and like, yeah, that was just so beautiful. It was like a movie. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>One of the descriptions of Kirby Cove on the official Golden Gate National Parks Conservancy website says, quote, No other beach in the world has a view like this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>It just felt really nice to just be outdoors and enjoy the vitamin D and like also getting to do that with you. Cause I haven’t like, we haven’t seen each other for so long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Now to get to our campsite, you have to walk from one end of the cove to the other. Campsite number one was the furthest from the entrance. Perched on a cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean and the Golden Gate Bridge with San Francisco on the other side. It was the best campsite on the cove. And we felt lucky because for most of the day that we arrived, we were the only ones there. Me and Rochelle pitched our tent and began exploring the cove.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Around the corner from our campsite was Battery Kirby. It’s this large slab of concrete built into the hillside and used to defend the coasts during wartime before the end of World War Two. Batteries like these contained 16 inch guns that fired 2,000 pound projectiles. When we got to battery, Kirby visitors had covered these abandoned structures in chalk drawings and messages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>I remember at first we we saw the chalk and we didn’t know. Like we were like, oh, what should we write on this? Because, you know, people were like the other drawings on there were like smiley faces, rainbows or like profanity or whatever. But we had this whole wall empty wall of. Like. Like a canvas. Like what could we write? You started writing. Stop AAPI hate. Because ours is the week leading to our camping trip. That was. It was. It was everywhere. Because maybe it was us also like, Hey, there are Asians here at this campground. Like, we don’t want any harm or whatever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Rochelle wrote, Love us like you love our food under my message on the battery wall and even think about it at the time. But there was so much irony in that act. Yet another example of gun violence in America commemorated on a slab of concrete that once housed weapons of war and domination. After we finished exploring the rest of the cove, we made our way down to the beach and touched the water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I marveled at the cliffs walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>There were these amazing indents in the earth that looked like stairs. The roots of the trees that shaded our tent above were poking out. And it was such a beautiful day. As the sun began to set, we walked back through the cove to the entrance where our car was and brought the remainder of our things to our campsite. More campers had begun showing up and pitching their own tents around the cove, and I started to take stock of who else was camping at the cove that night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>One campsite was a group of white high school boys with their one Asian friend. At another site was a group of men drinking beers who gave off a bachelor party in the wilderness vibes. I couldn’t help but notice that there weren’t any other women around or any people of color for that matter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>With the exception of the one Asian kid. And I started to become painfully aware of my body. To get anywhere. To and from our campsite. We have to pass by Battery Kirby and our chalk messages written in huge letters. But every time we passed it, there was this dread that I could not shake. I just couldn’t bear to look at it. Something inside of me was deeply paranoid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I worried we’d find our messages defaced with either some hateful message or maybe even a Nazi symbol. Something to tell me that someone who doesn’t agree with stopping Asian hate would be here. Something to prove that maybe my dad was right, that I should have just stayed home. And whether these were legitimate fears or not. I started to regret what we wrote on the battery walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Writing those messages had woken something up in me. They were reminders of the thoughts and feelings I had spent the week shoving to the back of my mind in the wilderness. Your sense of safety is warped when you’re a woman and when you’re out of the house, period. In March of 2021, your sense of safety as an Asian person is warped to. I kept these thoughts to myself, though. I tried over and over again to ignore them. By this point the sun had set and the city was glowing. The other side of our campsite was pitch black. I didn’t want any of these feelings to ruin the trip, so I stuck to the itinerary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’d printed out the New York Times’s 36 Questions that lead to Love before the trip. Me and Rochelle had planned to do this activity together after dinner. According to the preamble to the questions, the idea is that mutual vulnerability fosters closeness. And I learned things about Rochelle that I didn’t know before. I learned that she has a secret hunch about how shall die, that she thinks I am a generous person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>We talked about facts about our lives that we forgot were actually wild coincidences like the fact that our dads are from the same town in the Philippines, that they both had three daughters and that we were both the boon souls or the youngest. And how wild it was that the universe had brought their daughters together on this cliff. At that moment, we talked about her mom’s death when we were just freshman in high school, how I didn’t always know how to be helpful after that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>You apologized for like not knowing what to say during that at the time that my mom passed. But it was also like I didn’t expect anything from it when we were 14 because we were so young. And like, it’s something about, like, I never want you to experience. So it was okay. You know, I just appreciated you being here. And I think I like thanked you for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>It was the kind of conversation with your best friend that grounds you and brings you back to Earth. The kind of conversation that feels like yet another chapter for two friends just growing up and figuring out how to do life together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>It just felt like our own little, like, therapy session. And just talking about those things with you as my best friend, it just it felt good. It just felt like I got a lot off my chest, my shoulders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I only mentioned my fear and paranoia to Rochelle once. That night she asked me if it was because of the people that we pass by on our way back to the campsite. She knew. She sounded so sure when she said that we were going to be okay, and that comforted me. But I didn’t sleep at all that night. Instead, I gamed out an escape from our spot on the cliff in case someone tried to enter our tent. I even imagined waking up to a group of white men lounging in our chairs and helping themselves to all of our food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Every rustle in the leaves made my heart stop. Rosen’s brother in law slipped a knife in her bag just in case. But we accidentally left it inside of the lockbox that secures our food from wild animals. And it was dozens of feet away from our tent. I tried to focus on the sound of the ocean, but I probably slept a total of three hours that night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rochelle: \u003c/strong>We woke up pretty early. I felt like 7 a.m. and I remember, like, waking up, hearing the waves from the beach. You are already awake, I think. Mm hmm. I asked if you’re okay. And you were telling me you barely slept because you were scared from the night before. But I think just like getting out of our tent and, like, seeing that, like, everything. All our stuff was still there, you know? Mm hmm. 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And to emphasize her point, O'Brien drew on her own experiences at the start of her on-air career here in the San Francisco Bay Area — where colleagues at her first job referred to her as the \"affirmative action hire.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After years with major news outlets like NBC and CNN, O'Brien runs her own production company. \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/soledadobrien\">On Twitter\u003c/a>, she doesn't hold back with her criticisms of shoddy journalism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>O'Brien \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101878654/soledad-obrien-on-news-medias-reckoning-with-racism\">appeared on KQED Forum to\u003c/a> discuss how newsrooms should address racism in hiring and their coverage, her personal experiences in the Bay Area and why the idea of \"objectivity\" is standing in the way of good journalism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for length and clarity\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>On joining KRON in San Francisco in 1993 as a 'woefully underpaid' new reporter and hearing her new colleagues talk about 'the new affirmative action hire'\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>At that moment that I'm in, everybody sort of \u003cem>stops talking\u003c/em> — and I realize that that's me. \"The new affirmative action hire\" is \u003cem>me\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Very rarely are new reporters — who are often young reporters — framed that way. They might be framed as a new reporter, the young reporter, the person from Texas, Chicago, wherever. But often when you're talking about Black reporters, the idea is that they're here for a reason and that reason is they \"don't really belong here.\" It's this sense of, well, \"you don't \u003cem>really\u003c/em> deserve to be here.\" And I think it's not an unusual experience for reporters of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think it's \u003cem>annoying\u003c/em> more than upsetting in a lot of ways. And maybe it's just that at age 53, I'm no longer upset by those little things.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>On a story that exemplifies the 'psychic energy' discriminatory comments demand from people of color\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>I used to do the morning show at WBZ-TV, and because it came on before the \"Today Show,\" I had to finish my show and then run to the morning meeting, which started at 7 o'clock. So I got in, stopped to the bathroom, got in at 7:03. And there was a guy in my meeting who used to say every time, because I'd come in three minutes late: \"Oh, she's on C.P. time\" — for \"colored people time.\" Because my show didn't end till the start of the meeting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I just remember how annoyed and frustrated I was: like, that was hurtful. That was a first job of mine, and so upsetting. And it really pissed me off. I'd go home and strategize, like, \"What clever comeback could I say? What sassy remark could I say back to him?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a while I got promoted. I left to go to NBC News, and I never saw the guy again in my entire life. And you realize how much energy that drains from you, to go home and think about clever comebacks? Do you complain to somebody? Do you strategize? Do you ignore it day after day? And it's that psychic energy piece of it that I find sometimes just sucks you dry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11830367\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1900px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11830367\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1900\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1.jpg 1900w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1-800x539.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1-1020x687.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1-1536x1035.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1900px) 100vw, 1900px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Soledad O'Brien at the 2018 PowHERful Benefit Gala in New York City. \u003ccite>(Jennifer Graylock/Getty Images for PowHERful Foundation)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>On hearing KRON colleagues joking about 'taking their lives into their hands' after driving through Oakland \u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>It didn't strike them as even slightly odd, inappropriate and wrong to be framing Oakland that way. And it was a joke, but not really a joke. And I remember thinking like, so this is why our coverage is \u003cem>always\u003c/em> going to be about crime and bad things, because this is (their) point of view on Oakland. Oakland at the time did have some crime, but it also had great stories, too. Every city does. There's crime, there's hope, there's joy, there's fear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I just remember, number one, thinking, \"Wow, this is so interesting that they don't even \u003cem>see\u003c/em> that this would be an inappropriate thing to say — as they're heading into the meeting to discuss how we're going to think about stories.\" Number two, I understand why any of my stories that counter the \"normal narrative\" (about Oakland) are really hard to get accepted. Because everybody believes this thing, and they believe it so much that they're more than happy to joke about it in front of me, who lives in Oakland!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you're going to then be in those meetings, you have to be able to say: \"So, I just want to point out to you \u003cem>what you're doing\u003c/em>.\" It's a challenging conversation because those are usually the conversations that lead you to lose your job. Not immediately, but six months, nine months down the road — people think you're a pain and that's it. You disappear.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>On what 'bringing your full self' to work means to her, and the importance of using your voice\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>What does that \u003cem>mean\u003c/em> to bring your full self? We don't frame it that way (at Soledad O'Brien Productions.) In our company it is: \"You're here and your voice is important. So if there's something you're thinking, you need to say if you get to be around this table, then the onus is on you to speak up.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I don't have all the answers. And if I'm wrong, you need to say, \"I disagree with you, and here's why.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[ad fullwidth]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Why journalists need to commit to giving their audiences more context\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Our jobs should be about explaining things. We do a lot of covering of stories frequently, but with no \u003cem>context\u003c/em>. We'll go into a poor community, but we won't talk about how they got that way. We don't talk about disinvestment, or what happened here 50 years ago or anything that would set up and give you explanation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I don't think that stories without context are helpful to an audience to understand, when really we should be giving far more context, and really pushing back on the simplistic telling of a story — as opposed to what's usually a little more complicated.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>On the problem with journalistic 'objectivity'\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Sometimes we think of objectivity is not having a point of view, ever. I think that that's problematic. I'd rather understand where someone's coming from and what their experiences are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Often our objectivity conversations are \"don't say anything, so no one knows that you have a point of view on something.\" I think that's weird because people \u003cem>do\u003c/em> have a point of view. They do have an experience. I'd much rather have a reporter say \"I grew up in these projects, actually. So I actually have some insight on the story for you.\" I don't think that makes the reporting worse. I think it makes it more interesting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now objectivity is \"don't have a point of view\", which brings you to \"Well, he says this. But \u003cem>he\u003c/em> says this.\" And that's really terrible reporting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Highlights from Soledad O'Brien's recent KQED Forum interview, including her personal experiences starting out in the Bay Area.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1595550141,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":1233},"headData":{"title":"Diversify Your Newsrooms and Stop Harping on 'Objectivity,' Says Soledad O'Brien | KQED","description":"Highlights from Soledad O'Brien's recent KQED Forum interview, including her personal experiences starting out in the Bay Area.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Diversify Your Newsrooms and Stop Harping on 'Objectivity,' Says Soledad O'Brien","datePublished":"2020-07-23T23:20:23.000Z","dateModified":"2020-07-24T00:22:21.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11830206 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11830206","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/07/23/diversify-your-newsrooms-and-stop-harping-on-objectivity-says-soledad-obrien/","disqusTitle":"Diversify Your Newsrooms and Stop Harping on 'Objectivity,' Says Soledad O'Brien","path":"/news/11830206/diversify-your-newsrooms-and-stop-harping-on-objectivity-says-soledad-obrien","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In her recent New York Times op-ed, award-winning journalist Soledad O'Brien spoke of a welcome \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/opinion/soledad-obrien-racism-journalism.html\">“MeToo” moment for journalists of color\u003c/a> across the country, speaking out against racism in newsrooms. And to emphasize her point, O'Brien drew on her own experiences at the start of her on-air career here in the San Francisco Bay Area — where colleagues at her first job referred to her as the \"affirmative action hire.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After years with major news outlets like NBC and CNN, O'Brien runs her own production company. \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/soledadobrien\">On Twitter\u003c/a>, she doesn't hold back with her criticisms of shoddy journalism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>O'Brien \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101878654/soledad-obrien-on-news-medias-reckoning-with-racism\">appeared on KQED Forum to\u003c/a> discuss how newsrooms should address racism in hiring and their coverage, her personal experiences in the Bay Area and why the idea of \"objectivity\" is standing in the way of good journalism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for length and clarity\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>On joining KRON in San Francisco in 1993 as a 'woefully underpaid' new reporter and hearing her new colleagues talk about 'the new affirmative action hire'\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>At that moment that I'm in, everybody sort of \u003cem>stops talking\u003c/em> — and I realize that that's me. \"The new affirmative action hire\" is \u003cem>me\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Very rarely are new reporters — who are often young reporters — framed that way. They might be framed as a new reporter, the young reporter, the person from Texas, Chicago, wherever. But often when you're talking about Black reporters, the idea is that they're here for a reason and that reason is they \"don't really belong here.\" It's this sense of, well, \"you don't \u003cem>really\u003c/em> deserve to be here.\" And I think it's not an unusual experience for reporters of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think it's \u003cem>annoying\u003c/em> more than upsetting in a lot of ways. And maybe it's just that at age 53, I'm no longer upset by those little things.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>On a story that exemplifies the 'psychic energy' discriminatory comments demand from people of color\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>I used to do the morning show at WBZ-TV, and because it came on before the \"Today Show,\" I had to finish my show and then run to the morning meeting, which started at 7 o'clock. So I got in, stopped to the bathroom, got in at 7:03. And there was a guy in my meeting who used to say every time, because I'd come in three minutes late: \"Oh, she's on C.P. time\" — for \"colored people time.\" Because my show didn't end till the start of the meeting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I just remember how annoyed and frustrated I was: like, that was hurtful. That was a first job of mine, and so upsetting. And it really pissed me off. I'd go home and strategize, like, \"What clever comeback could I say? What sassy remark could I say back to him?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a while I got promoted. I left to go to NBC News, and I never saw the guy again in my entire life. And you realize how much energy that drains from you, to go home and think about clever comebacks? Do you complain to somebody? Do you strategize? Do you ignore it day after day? And it's that psychic energy piece of it that I find sometimes just sucks you dry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11830367\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1900px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11830367\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1900\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1.jpg 1900w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1-800x539.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1-1020x687.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/07/soledad1-1536x1035.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1900px) 100vw, 1900px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Soledad O'Brien at the 2018 PowHERful Benefit Gala in New York City. \u003ccite>(Jennifer Graylock/Getty Images for PowHERful Foundation)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>On hearing KRON colleagues joking about 'taking their lives into their hands' after driving through Oakland \u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>It didn't strike them as even slightly odd, inappropriate and wrong to be framing Oakland that way. And it was a joke, but not really a joke. And I remember thinking like, so this is why our coverage is \u003cem>always\u003c/em> going to be about crime and bad things, because this is (their) point of view on Oakland. Oakland at the time did have some crime, but it also had great stories, too. Every city does. There's crime, there's hope, there's joy, there's fear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I just remember, number one, thinking, \"Wow, this is so interesting that they don't even \u003cem>see\u003c/em> that this would be an inappropriate thing to say — as they're heading into the meeting to discuss how we're going to think about stories.\" Number two, I understand why any of my stories that counter the \"normal narrative\" (about Oakland) are really hard to get accepted. Because everybody believes this thing, and they believe it so much that they're more than happy to joke about it in front of me, who lives in Oakland!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you're going to then be in those meetings, you have to be able to say: \"So, I just want to point out to you \u003cem>what you're doing\u003c/em>.\" It's a challenging conversation because those are usually the conversations that lead you to lose your job. Not immediately, but six months, nine months down the road — people think you're a pain and that's it. You disappear.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>On what 'bringing your full self' to work means to her, and the importance of using your voice\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>What does that \u003cem>mean\u003c/em> to bring your full self? We don't frame it that way (at Soledad O'Brien Productions.) In our company it is: \"You're here and your voice is important. So if there's something you're thinking, you need to say if you get to be around this table, then the onus is on you to speak up.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I don't have all the answers. And if I'm wrong, you need to say, \"I disagree with you, and here's why.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Why journalists need to commit to giving their audiences more context\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Our jobs should be about explaining things. We do a lot of covering of stories frequently, but with no \u003cem>context\u003c/em>. We'll go into a poor community, but we won't talk about how they got that way. We don't talk about disinvestment, or what happened here 50 years ago or anything that would set up and give you explanation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I don't think that stories without context are helpful to an audience to understand, when really we should be giving far more context, and really pushing back on the simplistic telling of a story — as opposed to what's usually a little more complicated.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>On the problem with journalistic 'objectivity'\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Sometimes we think of objectivity is not having a point of view, ever. I think that that's problematic. I'd rather understand where someone's coming from and what their experiences are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Often our objectivity conversations are \"don't say anything, so no one knows that you have a point of view on something.\" I think that's weird because people \u003cem>do\u003c/em> have a point of view. They do have an experience. I'd much rather have a reporter say \"I grew up in these projects, actually. So I actually have some insight on the story for you.\" I don't think that makes the reporting worse. I think it makes it more interesting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now objectivity is \"don't have a point of view\", which brings you to \"Well, he says this. But \u003cem>he\u003c/em> says this.\" And that's really terrible reporting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11830206/diversify-your-newsrooms-and-stop-harping-on-objectivity-says-soledad-obrien","authors":["3243"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_2670","news_20219","news_2068"],"featImg":"news_11830366","label":"news"},"news_11812293":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11812293","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11812293","score":null,"sort":[1586996110000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"making-the-news-when-you-cant-leave-the-house-how-kqed-is-reporting-during-covid-19","title":"Making the News When You Can't Leave the House: How KQED Is Reporting During COVID-19","publishDate":1586996110,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Now that Gov. Gavin Newsom has \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11812296/newsoms-roadmap-to-guide-california-out-of-isolation\">released a roadmap\u003c/a> on how he plans to eventually unwind the restrictions California has enacted to slow the spread of the coronavirus, here at KQED we’re thinking about what that means for our journalism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we start to consider loosening up some of our reporting and travel restrictions for the newsroom, we wanted to explain what our thinking and guidelines have been during this critical time. To do that, we put some questions to KQED News Executive Editor Ethan Toven-Lindsey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Q: We’ve been sheltering in place for about a month now. Thinking back to before we realized just how infectious this virus is, when do you feel things shifted to this level of worry?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: I feel like some of the folks in the KQED newsroom, and in the larger local and national media, knew what was really happening for weeks and months. Alexis Madrigal, an Oakland resident who works for The Atlantic and has been heading \u003ca href=\"https://covidtracking.com/\">the COVID Tracking Project\u003c/a>, was talking about how bad things were going to get relatively early on, and the rest of us kept getting signals, but couldn’t separate them from the noise. Looking back now, I feel like some of our KQED Science colleagues, such as science reporter Lesley McClurg, were sounding key warning bells, but none of us were ready for the massive mental and logistical shift we were about to encounter. Still, at KQED we’d started planning remote production work shifts and essential staff rotations in early March, but with the thinking that those efforts were worst-case scenario planning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, trying to think back, it feels like it was Wednesday, March 11 when the rest of us became believers. It was that day, with the stock market reacting the way it did, combined with the president’s Oval Office address, that confirmed our fears. The next day, we held a KQED editorial meeting and decided we needed to reframe how we were covering the crisis, and how we were staffing it. That Wednesday was probably the day when everyone in the newsroom became a coronavirus reporter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Q: Some people are saying this is going to change everything, or accelerate what already exists in the world. How do you and your newsroom think about that possibility and all that uncertainty? How do you do journalism in a moment when everything is different?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: It does feel like everything is changing so fast, doesn’t it? But I think the news industry has been preparing for this moment for a generation. Our reporters and editors have been covering the shifting landscape of the Bay Area, and beyond, for years ... I do think that we had to challenge our assumptions and training and muscle memory during and after the 2016 election. We’ve also had to refocus our work and mindset as we’ve covered climate change and the state’s horrific wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some sense, KQED journalists are well-suited for this moment. After our wildfire reporting, we worked with several organizations to explore and rethink how we cover trauma and traumatic events. And according to some research we’ve heard, journalists are actually people who are more able to process and deal with traumatic events. I think that’s true at KQED especially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, I think because of our public media mission, and our knowledge that our business is built on a nonprofit membership model, our reporters and editors have always seen themselves as advocates for and members of the broader community. Our journalism has always been centered with people — our region, our community — in mind, and so being willing and able to change the way we do things when our community demands it, is simply part of our DNA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItvSVQ6A9zE\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Q: How do you guide editors and reporters on how to avoid exposure while also getting their stories done? Will that change going forward?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: The safety and security of everyone at KQED is always central in our minds. Radio reporters, for eons — well, at least since I started cutting tape in the late 1990s with razor blades — have despised \"phone tape.\" That is an interview with someone recorded over a telephone line, as opposed to in person. For one thing, it reveals that the reporter didn’t sit down and look the interviewee in their eyes when asking the questions. But it also sounds weaker and less clear than in-person audio recordings. And because of that, editors and radio newsroom leaders have always preached that reporters don’t just get phone tape\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, our reporters are expected to get phone tape. I do not believe our reporters should be going out into the field for interviews that they could be recording over a phone ... for their safety, for the safety of the person they are interviewing ... and for our collective public health. They could be the vector that spreads this thing, and so relying on phone tape is now a good thing. Plus, there is now technology that can allow an interview via phone to be recorded in better quality audio, and then uploaded to KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those technological changes are also allowing our hosts and anchors to produce and broadcast the news, and Forum and our other shows from their own homes. Most of the hosts and anchors you hear now on KQED are broadcasting from home. There is a “last mile” of audio production that needs to occur in our offices, but we are making every attempt to keep that staffing to a bare minimum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/mlagos/status/1240799803841241088\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, we will be trying to follow any governmental and medical advice as we change our reporting advice and guidelines in the future. You may start to hear and see our reporters in the field again, but when you do, know that we’ll only have made those decisions with the sober reality of the best standards from medical and public health professionals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: What about photos and television? Are things any different for photographers and video producers?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: As we've reported on, regional and state authorities deemed media and KQED as an \"essential service.\" As a mission-driven news team, we are deeply committed to serving our community and providing the Bay Area with information and inspiration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What that means is while we have to make difficult decisions to limit the ability of reporters to go out into the field, we are also making difficult decisions to identify ways to produce and capture visuals and video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For instance, the producers, journalists and staff of our weekly TV show \"KQED Newsroom\" have restructured the format and logistics of the production of the show, but the technical challenges of a studio show do require some sort of physical presence. Because of that, we have reduced but not eliminated the number of folks reporting on set on Friday, but are following social distancing and PPE (personal protective equipment) guidelines. Our producers are also going out into the field to collect and record footage for the show, but doing it in a safe and healthy way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And finally, our photo intern \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/blaberge\">Beth LaBerge\u003c/a>, who shoots many of the photographs in our digital and written stories, is a critical member of the news team. We've worked closely with her to do it in a safe fashion, but she continues to photograph from the field for important stories on a case-by-case basis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11808986 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/03/RS42279_010_KQED_Oakland_CoronavirusHomelessRelief_03252020_0033-qut-1020x680.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the crisis, she has photographed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11810376/nurses-at-daly-city-coronavirus-hospital-sound-alarm-over-shortage-of-n95-masks-medical-supplies\">nurses\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11809643/the-many-challenges-of-being-an-essential-service-worker-in-a-pandemic\">gig workers\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11809502/photos-gov-newsom-and-san-jose-mayor-sam-liccardo-tour-ventilator-refurbishing-site\">Gov. Gavin Newsom\u003c/a>. In fact, as an indication of how essential Beth has become, she was selected to be the only photographer let into the governor's \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11809502/photos-gov-newsom-and-san-jose-mayor-sam-liccardo-tour-ventilator-refurbishing-site\">tour of the Bloom Energy factory\u003c/a> in Sunnyvale during his visit in March, and her photos were used by the New York Times for their coverage of the event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Q: Is there a layer of social emotional scaffolding that you’ve felt has been needed in this new normal? What’s different this time?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: Reporters are now working from home with their kids and their partners. Editors are now being asked to assign and work on stories about how their own lives will be forever altered. And producers and audio engineers and announcers are working from an office that is designed for 400 people and is staffed, in person, by 5.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the past 10 years, KQED’s reporters have covered wildfires, earthquakes, global financial collapse, political upheaval, immigration and asylum, climate change and so much more, but the story of a global pandemic and its impact on our lives and our local community call us to a different kind of work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With all the previous work, even in catastrophic wildfires or political change, there was the knowledge — or at least hope — that when the reporting was done, and the story was told, that life would get back to normal. There is an understanding, already at this point in this crisis, that will be nearly impossible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Q: What lessons from this pandemic do you think your newsroom will be able to apply in future disasters?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: Honestly, it is too early to consider that question. The work and the response to this pandemic may not apply to any future disasters. And the lessons we are learning right now still feel too new and fresh to even put into words. I guess the only lesson that comes to mind is simply be prepared to think about covering the unthinkable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But how do you do that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As KQED weighs loosening some of our reporting and travel restrictions for the newsroom, we wanted to explain what our thinking and guidelines have been during this critical time.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1587069715,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":30,"wordCount":1641},"headData":{"title":"Making the News When You Can't Leave the House: How KQED Is Reporting During COVID-19 | KQED","description":"As KQED weighs loosening some of our reporting and travel restrictions for the newsroom, we wanted to explain what our thinking and guidelines have been during this critical time.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Making the News When You Can't Leave the House: How KQED Is Reporting During COVID-19","datePublished":"2020-04-16T00:15:10.000Z","dateModified":"2020-04-16T20:41:55.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11812293 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11812293","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/04/15/making-the-news-when-you-cant-leave-the-house-how-kqed-is-reporting-during-covid-19/","disqusTitle":"Making the News When You Can't Leave the House: How KQED Is Reporting During COVID-19","source":"Coronavirus","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/coronavirus","path":"/news/11812293/making-the-news-when-you-cant-leave-the-house-how-kqed-is-reporting-during-covid-19","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Now that Gov. 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That Wednesday was probably the day when everyone in the newsroom became a coronavirus reporter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Q: Some people are saying this is going to change everything, or accelerate what already exists in the world. How do you and your newsroom think about that possibility and all that uncertainty? How do you do journalism in a moment when everything is different?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: It does feel like everything is changing so fast, doesn’t it? But I think the news industry has been preparing for this moment for a generation. Our reporters and editors have been covering the shifting landscape of the Bay Area, and beyond, for years ... I do think that we had to challenge our assumptions and training and muscle memory during and after the 2016 election. We’ve also had to refocus our work and mindset as we’ve covered climate change and the state’s horrific wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some sense, KQED journalists are well-suited for this moment. After our wildfire reporting, we worked with several organizations to explore and rethink how we cover trauma and traumatic events. And according to some research we’ve heard, journalists are actually people who are more able to process and deal with traumatic events. I think that’s true at KQED especially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, I think because of our public media mission, and our knowledge that our business is built on a nonprofit membership model, our reporters and editors have always seen themselves as advocates for and members of the broader community. Our journalism has always been centered with people — our region, our community — in mind, and so being willing and able to change the way we do things when our community demands it, is simply part of our DNA.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/ItvSVQ6A9zE'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/ItvSVQ6A9zE'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cb>Q: How do you guide editors and reporters on how to avoid exposure while also getting their stories done? Will that change going forward?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: The safety and security of everyone at KQED is always central in our minds. Radio reporters, for eons — well, at least since I started cutting tape in the late 1990s with razor blades — have despised \"phone tape.\" That is an interview with someone recorded over a telephone line, as opposed to in person. For one thing, it reveals that the reporter didn’t sit down and look the interviewee in their eyes when asking the questions. But it also sounds weaker and less clear than in-person audio recordings. And because of that, editors and radio newsroom leaders have always preached that reporters don’t just get phone tape\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, our reporters are expected to get phone tape. I do not believe our reporters should be going out into the field for interviews that they could be recording over a phone ... for their safety, for the safety of the person they are interviewing ... and for our collective public health. They could be the vector that spreads this thing, and so relying on phone tape is now a good thing. Plus, there is now technology that can allow an interview via phone to be recorded in better quality audio, and then uploaded to KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those technological changes are also allowing our hosts and anchors to produce and broadcast the news, and Forum and our other shows from their own homes. Most of the hosts and anchors you hear now on KQED are broadcasting from home. There is a “last mile” of audio production that needs to occur in our offices, but we are making every attempt to keep that staffing to a bare minimum.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1240799803841241088"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Finally, we will be trying to follow any governmental and medical advice as we change our reporting advice and guidelines in the future. You may start to hear and see our reporters in the field again, but when you do, know that we’ll only have made those decisions with the sober reality of the best standards from medical and public health professionals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: What about photos and television? Are things any different for photographers and video producers?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: As we've reported on, regional and state authorities deemed media and KQED as an \"essential service.\" As a mission-driven news team, we are deeply committed to serving our community and providing the Bay Area with information and inspiration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What that means is while we have to make difficult decisions to limit the ability of reporters to go out into the field, we are also making difficult decisions to identify ways to produce and capture visuals and video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For instance, the producers, journalists and staff of our weekly TV show \"KQED Newsroom\" have restructured the format and logistics of the production of the show, but the technical challenges of a studio show do require some sort of physical presence. Because of that, we have reduced but not eliminated the number of folks reporting on set on Friday, but are following social distancing and PPE (personal protective equipment) guidelines. Our producers are also going out into the field to collect and record footage for the show, but doing it in a safe and healthy way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And finally, our photo intern \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/blaberge\">Beth LaBerge\u003c/a>, who shoots many of the photographs in our digital and written stories, is a critical member of the news team. We've worked closely with her to do it in a safe fashion, but she continues to photograph from the field for important stories on a case-by-case basis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11808986","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/03/RS42279_010_KQED_Oakland_CoronavirusHomelessRelief_03252020_0033-qut-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the crisis, she has photographed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11810376/nurses-at-daly-city-coronavirus-hospital-sound-alarm-over-shortage-of-n95-masks-medical-supplies\">nurses\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11809643/the-many-challenges-of-being-an-essential-service-worker-in-a-pandemic\">gig workers\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11809502/photos-gov-newsom-and-san-jose-mayor-sam-liccardo-tour-ventilator-refurbishing-site\">Gov. Gavin Newsom\u003c/a>. In fact, as an indication of how essential Beth has become, she was selected to be the only photographer let into the governor's \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11809502/photos-gov-newsom-and-san-jose-mayor-sam-liccardo-tour-ventilator-refurbishing-site\">tour of the Bloom Energy factory\u003c/a> in Sunnyvale during his visit in March, and her photos were used by the New York Times for their coverage of the event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Q: Is there a layer of social emotional scaffolding that you’ve felt has been needed in this new normal? What’s different this time?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: Reporters are now working from home with their kids and their partners. Editors are now being asked to assign and work on stories about how their own lives will be forever altered. And producers and audio engineers and announcers are working from an office that is designed for 400 people and is staffed, in person, by 5.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the past 10 years, KQED’s reporters have covered wildfires, earthquakes, global financial collapse, political upheaval, immigration and asylum, climate change and so much more, but the story of a global pandemic and its impact on our lives and our local community call us to a different kind of work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With all the previous work, even in catastrophic wildfires or political change, there was the knowledge — or at least hope — that when the reporting was done, and the story was told, that life would get back to normal. There is an understanding, already at this point in this crisis, that will be nearly impossible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Q: What lessons from this pandemic do you think your newsroom will be able to apply in future disasters?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A: Honestly, it is too early to consider that question. The work and the response to this pandemic may not apply to any future disasters. And the lessons we are learning right now still feel too new and fresh to even put into words. I guess the only lesson that comes to mind is simply be prepared to think about covering the unthinkable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But how do you do that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11812293/making-the-news-when-you-cant-leave-the-house-how-kqed-is-reporting-during-covid-19","authors":["236"],"categories":["news_457","news_8"],"tags":["news_27350","news_27504","news_2670","news_9","news_205"],"featImg":"news_11812495","label":"source_news_11812293"},"news_11804286":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11804286","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11804286","score":null,"sort":[1582992093000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"an-eye-for-the-strange-and-wonderful-remembering-kqeds-patricia-yollin","title":"An Eye for the Strange and Wonderful: Remembering KQED’s Patricia Yollin","publishDate":1582992093,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>[dropcap]O[/dropcap]ften when Pat Yollin had to break bad news about a piece I had written — as when she had encountered a typo or missing word or some other gibberish in my copy — she’d preface it with a tongue-in-cheek apology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Not to be galling and nettlesome,” she’d say, “but there seems to be a word left out here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her notes stopped just before Christmas, when doctors told Pat — a KQED News online editor for the past seven years — that she was suffering from an incurable cancer that had already reached an advanced stage. The cancer, complicated by infections and a stroke, rapidly overwhelmed her, and she died last Saturday in Berkeley. She was 69.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11759599,news_11765805,news_11680221,news_11629475,news_11632348\" label=\"Stories From KQED's Patricia Yollin\"]Pat’s illness also ended a 45-year career as a reporter, editor and mentor who was unendingly curious and eager to explore the world with all its quirks, oddities and wonders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat told her longtime partner, San Francisco Chronicle photographer Paul Chinn, that she wanted no formal memorial or tributes after she died. She probably would have insisted that she didn’t want a formal obituary, either.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So now, it’s my turn to apologize to her for something she might well find galling and nettlesome: a look at her life and work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]A[/dropcap]mong the many things Pat was known for — the precision and clarity in her writing and editing, her eye for detail, her empathy for the people she wrote about — was her sense of fun and love of the oddball story. So in her time editing for KQED, she’d sometimes make time to do pieces like one on \u003ca href=\"//www.kqed.org/news/11513197/its-really-big-and-really-stinks-but-people-cant-wait-to-see-s-f-s-corpse-flower%E2%80%9D\" target=\"”_blank”\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the blooming of a corpse flower\u003c/a> at the San Francisco Conservatory of Flowers or on the challenges a group of local entrepreneurs faced \u003ca href=\"//www.kqed.org/news/11680221/the-female-orgasm-comes-quietly-to-the-streets-of-san-francisco%E2%80%9D\" target=\"”_blank”\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">marketing a smart vibrator\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is no prouder parent than Sidney Price,” the corpse flower story began. “On Monday morning, he savored a private visit with his ‘baby’ at the San Francisco Conservatory of Flowers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ ‘I always thought she'd be an early bloomer,’ said Price, as he gazed at Terra the Titan, a 9-year-old corpse flower poised to unleash an overpowering stench that has been compared to decaying animal flesh, filthy socks, rotting garbage and human feces.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even knowing how enthusiastically she embraced the unusual, it’s surprising to dig through Pat’s earliest stories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The very first piece I can find carrying her byline is from the summer of 1975 for the San Francisco Examiner’s old Sunday magazine, California Living.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The story tells the tale of a young woman named Magi (pronounced Maggie), recently hired as a barker for one of the North Beach strip clubs. Pat hung out for an afternoon with the new barker, whose job was to entice (or badger) male passersby to come see the show inside. Business was depressingly slow: The few people strolling down Broadway weren’t interested in Magi’s spiel. And then this happened:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“A short bespectacled white-haired man is approaching at a brisk pace, puffing on a cigar. He breezes past Magi’s pitch, and has almost reached the end of the block when Magi, still persevering, shouts, “Let me show you something really disgusting.” It works. His head whirls around. “Disgusting!” he yelps hopefully in a heavy German accent, and marches back to investigate. He’s on his way once again within a few minutes, but the encounter has revived Magi’s good humor.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>I laughed out loud at the line, “Let me show you something really disgusting.” It’s so unexpected, so funny and so Pat. And it’s a little astounding to me to see her, at age 24, showing such a refined eye for the detail that would make the story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Where did she pick up the affinity for the strange and the knack for conveying it to readers? Pat didn’t talk much about her formative years — spent in and around Philadelphia. After she fell ill, I told her once I’d like to ask her about her family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Why?” she demanded, as if she knew what I might be up to. I let it drop. But maybe her past holds a few clues to her fundamental enthusiasm for life and her willingness to embrace and learn from whoever and whatever she encountered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]P[/dropcap]atricia Leah Yollin was born Aug. 17, 1950, in Abington, Pennsylvania, just outside Philadelphia, the only child of Charles Yollin and Veronica Rita Dugan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat’s father was Jewish, a native of Kiev, Ukraine, whose family emigrated to Pennsylvania during the last years of Czar Nicholas II’s reign. Charlie Yollin left high school after one year and worked as a salesman and electrician.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her mother, the daughter of Irish Catholic immigrants, was born at home in the town of Bristol, just up the Delaware River from Philadelphia. If census records are to be believed, she also dropped out of high school and worked for years as a stenographer at a local Elks Club.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>None of that sounds way out there, but of course there’s a lot more to the story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Charlie Yollin was 46 and had two sons from his previous marriage — they were already in their 20s — when Pat came along. Veronica had apparently lived at home into her 30s before marrying Charles. She was 42 when Pat was born.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Friends say Pat spoke seldom about her upbringing, but a couple of details stick out. Pat described her mother poring over the Daily Racing Form, the horse players’ bible, as she sipped Schmidt's beer. Veronica, whom Pat described to some as “a hard-drinking, hard-smoking, hard-gambling woman,” would sometimes take her daughter along on her outings to the track.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her father? My eye is drawn to one particular about him. In the early ‘50s, soon after Pat was born, Charles advertised for a business he had started — raising minks — at the family’s home in the outlying Philadelphia suburb of Ambler.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Attention Mink Rancher,” the ads were headlined. “We are looking for live stock. If you have 300 minks or less and would like to sell out before pelting season, call or write. …”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Charlie turned the family’s backyard into a mink farm. Pat said the animals were remarkable for their viciousness and stink.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside Pat’s household, there was serious trouble in the extended Yollin family. One of her much older half-brothers, Louis Yollin, had been placed in a Philadelphia psychiatric hospital after committing a series of crimes in the late 1940s. In one case, he had stolen a collection of replica diamonds and other gems from a museum in the city and been arrested after trying to sell them to tourists on the Atlantic City boardwalk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Louis went on to a more sensational crime in 1952, when he was 28. Allowed to leave the psychiatric facility to visit his mother, he got his hands on a .25-caliber pistol and 50 rounds of ammunition and made his way back to Atlantic City. He held up a cab driver, who took him on a long drive to another town. There, Louis opened fire on random strangers, wounding three.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An Associated Press story carried by papers across the country the next day quoted Louis as telling arresting officers that he simply had “an urge to kill.” He was committed to a facility for the criminally insane, where he spent the next 16 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Did the case’s notoriety and the fate of Pat’s half-brother affect life in the Yollin household? I don’t know. But one other traumatic episode did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One evening when she was six, Pat was eating nuts. One got stuck in her throat. She told her parents, who didn’t believe her and sent her to bed. The next morning, the pain was worse and Pat complained again. This time, her parents took her to a doctor, who told them Pat needed an emergency tracheotomy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She remembered the date of that operation, Oct. 21, for the rest of her life. And after she fell ill last fall, she said she experienced the first symptoms of her cancer on Oct. 21, 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]P[/dropcap]at went on to be the woman and journalist she became because of her own innate intelligence and curiosity. But she also got a hand from her Aunt Katie, Veronica Dugan’s older sister.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Catherine Dugan, who was unmarried and had no children, paid for Pat to attend Catholic schools from the first grade on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat said later her aunt’s generosity was not entirely selfless. Katie, a Catholic, also wanted to “counteract” the influence of Charles Yollin, who was Jewish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat finished her schooling at Gwynedd Mercy High School, a highly regarded all-girls school in the Philadelphia suburbs. From there, Pat went on to Northwestern University, graduating with a bachelor’s in politics and government in 1972. She attended UC Berkeley’s Graduate School of Journalism and earned her master’s in 1976.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She worked for the Hayward Daily Review from 1978 through early 1983. With a bent for feature reporting, she also proved adept at breaking news coverage. Among the stories she reported was the 1982 retrial of Sacramento Valley serial killer Juan Corona.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That coverage brought her to the attention of Jim Wood, a reporter at the San Francisco Examiner also assigned to the retrial. Wood persuaded his editors to hire Pat, and she joined the Examiner in 1983.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11804304\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11804304\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-800x601.jpg\" alt=\"Hippos had a special place in Patricia Yollin's heart. The late KQED editor, who died Feb. 22 in Berkeley, had a collection of 200 hippopotamus figures, statuettes and stuffed animals.\" width=\"800\" height=\"601\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-800x601.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-1020x767.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hippos had a special place in Patricia Yollin's heart. The late KQED editor, who died Feb. 22 in Berkeley, had a collection of 200 hippopotamus figures, statuettes and stuffed animals. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Paul Chinn)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the next 26 years — first for the Ex and later for the San Francisco Chronicle — Pat covered an extraordinary variety of stories and filled many different newsroom roles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From 1983 through 1987, she covered transportation issues for the Examiner and took over writing the paper’s “Phantom Commuter” column.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Pat's hands, the Phantom was a feature that combined her sense of fun with her interest in providing a useful reader service. She would ride transit in the Bay Area and well beyond and report the good, the bad and the ugly she encountered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every bus and train ride she wrote about was memorable. Here’s her impression of one Muni line, the 27-Bryant, that readers had told her was beset by interminable delays.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“The caped commuter finished her round trip an hour and 35 minutes later, struck by two things: The 27-Bryant makes more turns than bumper cars manned by hyperactive children, and the rather nondescript route provides one of the most spectacular views in the city when it reaches 30th and Castro Street at the end of the line.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Later, she wrote a two-part report on how the region’s transit services were serving people with disabilities. The story featured a Berkeley woman who struggled to ride transit in her wheelchair. The twist: In doing the piece, Pat rode in a wheelchair, too. Her description of boarding one bus:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"The Phantom enjoyed a flawless lift ride, but then struggled to negotiate a tight right turn past the driver. She had never given much thought to the considerable difficulties of backing down the narrow front of a crowded bus while attempting to slalom between old people’s feet.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Her coverage made enough of an impression that Pat was invited in July 1984 to participate in a KQED-TV show, “Damn This Traffic Jam,” that focused on the Bay Area’s seemingly intractable transportation problems. (Sound familiar?). Here’s the segment, in which Pat appeared in full Phantom disguise: a cape, a floppy hat and a mask that left only her eyes uncovered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tagSlECrhKs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Later in her career, Pat was part of an Examiner team that produced a wide-ranging, 16-day series on the lives of gay and lesbian people in the United States. For the Chronicle, she produced a series on the many issues facing organ transplant recipients.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among topics she returned to repeatedly: zoos. She loved the animals, was concerned about their welfare and was fascinated by how people interact with them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"//www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Penguin-frenzy-over-Birds-back-where-they-2665415.php%E2%80%9D\" target=\"”_blank”\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a 2003 piece\u003c/a> detailing boisterous mating behavior among Magellanic penguins at the San Francisco Zoo, she quoted the birds’ keeper, Jane Tollini: “For me, it's heaven. It's a pleasant time right now. A whole month of foreplay — what's more pleasant than that?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a Siberian tiger fatally mauled a visitor to the zoo and injured two others on Christmas Day 2007, Pat and colleagues at the Chronicle \u003ca href=\"//www.sfgate.com/news/article/S-F-Zoo-visitor-saw-2-victims-of-tiger-attack-3233323.php%E2%80%9D\" target=\"”_blank”\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">broke the story\u003c/a> revealing the victims had taunted the animal before it escaped its enclosure and attacked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]O[/dropcap]ne last chapter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat took a buyout from the Chronicle in 2009. She had little trouble finding freelance work, and did stories for UC Berkeley’s California Magazine and UCSF. She began work as a part-time editor for KQED in 2013, an arrangement that quickly became permanent. Her major contribution to the organization, to her coworkers and to our readers was to improve everything she laid her hands on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among her colleagues, Pat was known as a very clear-headed and constructive editor who treated reporters with respect and criticized their work with a level of tact that was well-beyond the abilities of most of us in the news business. Put another way, she could point out your shortcomings — even mistakes that were galling and nettlesome — in a way that made the point but didn’t make people feel stupid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beyond all that, Pat was generous with her coaching and encouragement. She was instrumental in setting up and continuing San Francisco State's Raul Ramirez Diversity in Journalism Fund, a scholarship created in honor of KQED's late executive director of news and public affairs. Advocating for the fund was a reflection of her commitment to opening our profession to voices that have been shut out in the past. Pat also took a personal interest in the success of the students who have come to work at KQED as part of the scholarship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tyche Hendricks, a colleague at KQED who was among the hundreds of people who responded to \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/pfc1960/posts/10218472000665805\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a Facebook post\u003c/a> announcing Pat’s passing this past week, summed her up this way: “Her intelligence, curiosity, beautiful prose, journalistic instincts and ethics, her amazing ability to tell a story, her humor and pithy insights, her sense of justice, her quiet leadership … are irreplaceable and will be terribly missed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Besides her husband and partner Paul Chinn, Patricia Yollin is survived by two nieces — Jennifer Yollin of San Francisco and Julie Yollin Berk of London — and a nephew, Guy Yollin of Seattle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A reporter, editor and mentor for news organizations including the San Francisco Examiner, Chronicle and KQED, Pat Yollin spent 45 years in journalism. She died last week in Berkeley at age 69.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1583010145,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":57,"wordCount":2594},"headData":{"title":"An Eye for the Strange and Wonderful: Remembering KQED’s Patricia Yollin | KQED","description":"A reporter, editor and mentor for news organizations including the San Francisco Examiner, Chronicle and KQED, Pat Yollin spent 45 years in journalism. She died last week in Berkeley at age 69.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"An Eye for the Strange and Wonderful: Remembering KQED’s Patricia Yollin","datePublished":"2020-02-29T16:01:33.000Z","dateModified":"2020-02-29T21:02:25.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11804286 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11804286","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/02/29/an-eye-for-the-strange-and-wonderful-remembering-kqeds-patricia-yollin/","disqusTitle":"An Eye for the Strange and Wonderful: Remembering KQED’s Patricia Yollin","path":"/news/11804286/an-eye-for-the-strange-and-wonderful-remembering-kqeds-patricia-yollin","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">O\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>ften when Pat Yollin had to break bad news about a piece I had written — as when she had encountered a typo or missing word or some other gibberish in my copy — she’d preface it with a tongue-in-cheek apology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Not to be galling and nettlesome,” she’d say, “but there seems to be a word left out here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her notes stopped just before Christmas, when doctors told Pat — a KQED News online editor for the past seven years — that she was suffering from an incurable cancer that had already reached an advanced stage. The cancer, complicated by infections and a stroke, rapidly overwhelmed her, and she died last Saturday in Berkeley. She was 69.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11759599,news_11765805,news_11680221,news_11629475,news_11632348","label":"Stories From KQED's Patricia Yollin "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Pat’s illness also ended a 45-year career as a reporter, editor and mentor who was unendingly curious and eager to explore the world with all its quirks, oddities and wonders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat told her longtime partner, San Francisco Chronicle photographer Paul Chinn, that she wanted no formal memorial or tributes after she died. She probably would have insisted that she didn’t want a formal obituary, either.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So now, it’s my turn to apologize to her for something she might well find galling and nettlesome: a look at her life and work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">A\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>mong the many things Pat was known for — the precision and clarity in her writing and editing, her eye for detail, her empathy for the people she wrote about — was her sense of fun and love of the oddball story. So in her time editing for KQED, she’d sometimes make time to do pieces like one on \u003ca href=\"//www.kqed.org/news/11513197/its-really-big-and-really-stinks-but-people-cant-wait-to-see-s-f-s-corpse-flower%E2%80%9D\" target=\"”_blank”\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the blooming of a corpse flower\u003c/a> at the San Francisco Conservatory of Flowers or on the challenges a group of local entrepreneurs faced \u003ca href=\"//www.kqed.org/news/11680221/the-female-orgasm-comes-quietly-to-the-streets-of-san-francisco%E2%80%9D\" target=\"”_blank”\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">marketing a smart vibrator\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is no prouder parent than Sidney Price,” the corpse flower story began. “On Monday morning, he savored a private visit with his ‘baby’ at the San Francisco Conservatory of Flowers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ ‘I always thought she'd be an early bloomer,’ said Price, as he gazed at Terra the Titan, a 9-year-old corpse flower poised to unleash an overpowering stench that has been compared to decaying animal flesh, filthy socks, rotting garbage and human feces.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even knowing how enthusiastically she embraced the unusual, it’s surprising to dig through Pat’s earliest stories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The very first piece I can find carrying her byline is from the summer of 1975 for the San Francisco Examiner’s old Sunday magazine, California Living.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The story tells the tale of a young woman named Magi (pronounced Maggie), recently hired as a barker for one of the North Beach strip clubs. Pat hung out for an afternoon with the new barker, whose job was to entice (or badger) male passersby to come see the show inside. Business was depressingly slow: The few people strolling down Broadway weren’t interested in Magi’s spiel. And then this happened:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“A short bespectacled white-haired man is approaching at a brisk pace, puffing on a cigar. He breezes past Magi’s pitch, and has almost reached the end of the block when Magi, still persevering, shouts, “Let me show you something really disgusting.” It works. His head whirls around. “Disgusting!” he yelps hopefully in a heavy German accent, and marches back to investigate. He’s on his way once again within a few minutes, but the encounter has revived Magi’s good humor.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>I laughed out loud at the line, “Let me show you something really disgusting.” It’s so unexpected, so funny and so Pat. And it’s a little astounding to me to see her, at age 24, showing such a refined eye for the detail that would make the story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Where did she pick up the affinity for the strange and the knack for conveying it to readers? Pat didn’t talk much about her formative years — spent in and around Philadelphia. After she fell ill, I told her once I’d like to ask her about her family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Why?” she demanded, as if she knew what I might be up to. I let it drop. But maybe her past holds a few clues to her fundamental enthusiasm for life and her willingness to embrace and learn from whoever and whatever she encountered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">P\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>atricia Leah Yollin was born Aug. 17, 1950, in Abington, Pennsylvania, just outside Philadelphia, the only child of Charles Yollin and Veronica Rita Dugan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat’s father was Jewish, a native of Kiev, Ukraine, whose family emigrated to Pennsylvania during the last years of Czar Nicholas II’s reign. Charlie Yollin left high school after one year and worked as a salesman and electrician.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her mother, the daughter of Irish Catholic immigrants, was born at home in the town of Bristol, just up the Delaware River from Philadelphia. If census records are to be believed, she also dropped out of high school and worked for years as a stenographer at a local Elks Club.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>None of that sounds way out there, but of course there’s a lot more to the story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Charlie Yollin was 46 and had two sons from his previous marriage — they were already in their 20s — when Pat came along. Veronica had apparently lived at home into her 30s before marrying Charles. She was 42 when Pat was born.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Friends say Pat spoke seldom about her upbringing, but a couple of details stick out. Pat described her mother poring over the Daily Racing Form, the horse players’ bible, as she sipped Schmidt's beer. Veronica, whom Pat described to some as “a hard-drinking, hard-smoking, hard-gambling woman,” would sometimes take her daughter along on her outings to the track.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her father? My eye is drawn to one particular about him. In the early ‘50s, soon after Pat was born, Charles advertised for a business he had started — raising minks — at the family’s home in the outlying Philadelphia suburb of Ambler.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Attention Mink Rancher,” the ads were headlined. “We are looking for live stock. If you have 300 minks or less and would like to sell out before pelting season, call or write. …”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Charlie turned the family’s backyard into a mink farm. Pat said the animals were remarkable for their viciousness and stink.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside Pat’s household, there was serious trouble in the extended Yollin family. One of her much older half-brothers, Louis Yollin, had been placed in a Philadelphia psychiatric hospital after committing a series of crimes in the late 1940s. In one case, he had stolen a collection of replica diamonds and other gems from a museum in the city and been arrested after trying to sell them to tourists on the Atlantic City boardwalk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Louis went on to a more sensational crime in 1952, when he was 28. Allowed to leave the psychiatric facility to visit his mother, he got his hands on a .25-caliber pistol and 50 rounds of ammunition and made his way back to Atlantic City. He held up a cab driver, who took him on a long drive to another town. There, Louis opened fire on random strangers, wounding three.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An Associated Press story carried by papers across the country the next day quoted Louis as telling arresting officers that he simply had “an urge to kill.” He was committed to a facility for the criminally insane, where he spent the next 16 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Did the case’s notoriety and the fate of Pat’s half-brother affect life in the Yollin household? I don’t know. But one other traumatic episode did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One evening when she was six, Pat was eating nuts. One got stuck in her throat. She told her parents, who didn’t believe her and sent her to bed. The next morning, the pain was worse and Pat complained again. This time, her parents took her to a doctor, who told them Pat needed an emergency tracheotomy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She remembered the date of that operation, Oct. 21, for the rest of her life. And after she fell ill last fall, she said she experienced the first symptoms of her cancer on Oct. 21, 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">P\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>at went on to be the woman and journalist she became because of her own innate intelligence and curiosity. But she also got a hand from her Aunt Katie, Veronica Dugan’s older sister.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Catherine Dugan, who was unmarried and had no children, paid for Pat to attend Catholic schools from the first grade on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat said later her aunt’s generosity was not entirely selfless. Katie, a Catholic, also wanted to “counteract” the influence of Charles Yollin, who was Jewish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat finished her schooling at Gwynedd Mercy High School, a highly regarded all-girls school in the Philadelphia suburbs. From there, Pat went on to Northwestern University, graduating with a bachelor’s in politics and government in 1972. She attended UC Berkeley’s Graduate School of Journalism and earned her master’s in 1976.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She worked for the Hayward Daily Review from 1978 through early 1983. With a bent for feature reporting, she also proved adept at breaking news coverage. Among the stories she reported was the 1982 retrial of Sacramento Valley serial killer Juan Corona.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That coverage brought her to the attention of Jim Wood, a reporter at the San Francisco Examiner also assigned to the retrial. Wood persuaded his editors to hire Pat, and she joined the Examiner in 1983.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11804304\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11804304\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-800x601.jpg\" alt=\"Hippos had a special place in Patricia Yollin's heart. The late KQED editor, who died Feb. 22 in Berkeley, had a collection of 200 hippopotamus figures, statuettes and stuffed animals.\" width=\"800\" height=\"601\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-800x601.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-1020x767.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/patyollin2-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hippos had a special place in Patricia Yollin's heart. The late KQED editor, who died Feb. 22 in Berkeley, had a collection of 200 hippopotamus figures, statuettes and stuffed animals. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Paul Chinn)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the next 26 years — first for the Ex and later for the San Francisco Chronicle — Pat covered an extraordinary variety of stories and filled many different newsroom roles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From 1983 through 1987, she covered transportation issues for the Examiner and took over writing the paper’s “Phantom Commuter” column.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Pat's hands, the Phantom was a feature that combined her sense of fun with her interest in providing a useful reader service. She would ride transit in the Bay Area and well beyond and report the good, the bad and the ugly she encountered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every bus and train ride she wrote about was memorable. Here’s her impression of one Muni line, the 27-Bryant, that readers had told her was beset by interminable delays.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“The caped commuter finished her round trip an hour and 35 minutes later, struck by two things: The 27-Bryant makes more turns than bumper cars manned by hyperactive children, and the rather nondescript route provides one of the most spectacular views in the city when it reaches 30th and Castro Street at the end of the line.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Later, she wrote a two-part report on how the region’s transit services were serving people with disabilities. The story featured a Berkeley woman who struggled to ride transit in her wheelchair. The twist: In doing the piece, Pat rode in a wheelchair, too. Her description of boarding one bus:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"The Phantom enjoyed a flawless lift ride, but then struggled to negotiate a tight right turn past the driver. She had never given much thought to the considerable difficulties of backing down the narrow front of a crowded bus while attempting to slalom between old people’s feet.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Her coverage made enough of an impression that Pat was invited in July 1984 to participate in a KQED-TV show, “Damn This Traffic Jam,” that focused on the Bay Area’s seemingly intractable transportation problems. (Sound familiar?). Here’s the segment, in which Pat appeared in full Phantom disguise: a cape, a floppy hat and a mask that left only her eyes uncovered.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/tagSlECrhKs'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/tagSlECrhKs'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Later in her career, Pat was part of an Examiner team that produced a wide-ranging, 16-day series on the lives of gay and lesbian people in the United States. For the Chronicle, she produced a series on the many issues facing organ transplant recipients.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among topics she returned to repeatedly: zoos. She loved the animals, was concerned about their welfare and was fascinated by how people interact with them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"//www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Penguin-frenzy-over-Birds-back-where-they-2665415.php%E2%80%9D\" target=\"”_blank”\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a 2003 piece\u003c/a> detailing boisterous mating behavior among Magellanic penguins at the San Francisco Zoo, she quoted the birds’ keeper, Jane Tollini: “For me, it's heaven. It's a pleasant time right now. A whole month of foreplay — what's more pleasant than that?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a Siberian tiger fatally mauled a visitor to the zoo and injured two others on Christmas Day 2007, Pat and colleagues at the Chronicle \u003ca href=\"//www.sfgate.com/news/article/S-F-Zoo-visitor-saw-2-victims-of-tiger-attack-3233323.php%E2%80%9D\" target=\"”_blank”\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">broke the story\u003c/a> revealing the victims had taunted the animal before it escaped its enclosure and attacked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">O\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>ne last chapter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat took a buyout from the Chronicle in 2009. She had little trouble finding freelance work, and did stories for UC Berkeley’s California Magazine and UCSF. She began work as a part-time editor for KQED in 2013, an arrangement that quickly became permanent. Her major contribution to the organization, to her coworkers and to our readers was to improve everything she laid her hands on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among her colleagues, Pat was known as a very clear-headed and constructive editor who treated reporters with respect and criticized their work with a level of tact that was well-beyond the abilities of most of us in the news business. Put another way, she could point out your shortcomings — even mistakes that were galling and nettlesome — in a way that made the point but didn’t make people feel stupid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beyond all that, Pat was generous with her coaching and encouragement. She was instrumental in setting up and continuing San Francisco State's Raul Ramirez Diversity in Journalism Fund, a scholarship created in honor of KQED's late executive director of news and public affairs. Advocating for the fund was a reflection of her commitment to opening our profession to voices that have been shut out in the past. Pat also took a personal interest in the success of the students who have come to work at KQED as part of the scholarship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tyche Hendricks, a colleague at KQED who was among the hundreds of people who responded to \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/pfc1960/posts/10218472000665805\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a Facebook post\u003c/a> announcing Pat’s passing this past week, summed her up this way: “Her intelligence, curiosity, beautiful prose, journalistic instincts and ethics, her amazing ability to tell a story, her humor and pithy insights, her sense of justice, her quiet leadership … are irreplaceable and will be terribly missed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Besides her husband and partner Paul Chinn, Patricia Yollin is survived by two nieces — Jennifer Yollin of San Francisco and Julie Yollin Berk of London — and a nephew, Guy Yollin of Seattle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11804286/an-eye-for-the-strange-and-wonderful-remembering-kqeds-patricia-yollin","authors":["222"],"categories":["news_223","news_8"],"tags":["news_2670","news_9"],"featImg":"news_11804289","label":"news"},"news_11791821":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11791821","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11791821","score":null,"sort":[1576630848000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"farewell-to-freelancing-in-california","title":"Farewell to Freelancing in California?","publishDate":1576630848,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Mark Fiore: Drawn to the Bay | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":18515,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://bit.ly/fiorefreelancers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Freelance journalists sued California\u003c/a> over the new state law that targets companies who hire independent contractors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The law, AB 5, is designed to force companies like Uber and Lyft to turn their vast army of independent contractors into employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the law, freelance journalists are limited to 35 submissions per client, per year before a client must consider them an employee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm all for fully employed journalists, but it just doesn't seem realistic that all freelancers will magically become employees as the law seems to envision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Full disclosure: I have worked for over 20 years as a freelance cartoonist and only recently became a part-time employee at KQED, largely because of this legislation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That said, I think my story is an anomaly and I \u003cem>know\u003c/em> my career would have been cut short years ago had it been limited to the 35 submission cap.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Freelance journalists sued California over the new state law that targets companies who hire independent contractors. 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