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So far this year, there have been four deaths at Santa Rita Jail.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“All four of those people died needlessly within days of their intake,” said Joy George with \u003ca href=\"https://restoreoakland.org/\">Restore Oakland\u003c/a>, a community advocacy group. “They died after being evaluated … even though there were multiple red flags. They should have been diverted. They should have been elsewhere. They should not have been incarcerated at Santa Rita Jail.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The facility was \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2022/02/08/judge-places-santa-rita-jail-under-external-oversight-ending-mental-health-abuse-lawsuit/\">placed under federal supervision in 2022 for at least six years\u003c/a> to improve conditions for those experiencing mental illness. During the rally, protestors read the names of those who had died in the jail over the last nine years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11945442\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11945442 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Large white signs, with names, birth and death dates painted in black, lay arranged on a cement walkway in neat rows.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Demonstrators lay 66 painted signs on the plaza in front of the jail, each bearing the name of a person who died in the jail over the last decade. \u003ccite>(Annelise Finney/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While some of the deaths have been attributed by jail officials to suspected fentanyl overdoses, protesters say the majority generally were caused by people not getting the care they needed (whether for mental illness or substance use disorder) in the facility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11945446\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11945446 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A Black man wearing black clothing and holding a microphone stands in front of several colored signs on a cement walkway outside.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dorsey Nunn, executive director of Legal Services for Prisoners With Children, speaks to a crowd of demonstrators in front of Santa Rita Jail. \u003ccite>(Annelise Finney/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“In the event that I'm out of control with a drug habit, should you take me to a drug program or should you take me to jail?” said Dorsey Nunn, executive director of the nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://prisonerswithchildren.org/\">Legal Services for Prisoners With Children\u003c/a>. “At a certain point there is something called compassion, and we are sorely missing it as a society, particularly when it comes to Black and brown folks.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates with the Care First Community Coalition pushed for the \"Care First, Jails Last\" policy resolution that was adopted by Alameda County in 2021, which set goals for law enforcement agencies in the county to stop the practice of arresting and jailing people dealing with mental health and/or substance use issues. The resolution also called for creating a community-led process to establish behavioral/mental health care and social services. The coalition demanded that the Alameda County Board of Supervisors investigate jail deaths and provide over $50 million for mental health services that were promised but have yet to be implemented. A meeting with the board about budget presentations will be held on April 11.[aside postID=\"news_11918230,news_11854891,news_11853540\" label=\"Related Posts\"]“The last time my brother Donald Nelson was able to walk, it was walking into this facility … that was May 1st, 2020,” said Norma Nelson. She said her brother, Donald Nelson, died after he was fatally assaulted in a holding cell by another detainee just hours into custody. “Losing a loved one who needs medical and mental health care while in the hands of our social and criminal justice system cuts to the heart with a different kind of pain — it’s deep.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nelson added that the sheriff's department didn't acknowledge the murder publicly until a reporter months later reported it. Lt. Tya Modeste, public information officer for the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office, said she was aware that the jail's “reputation wasn’t great in the past” and that “people found out their family members passed away by hearing it on the news,” but she says they’ve been working hard under the new sheriff, Yesenia Sanchez, to turn that around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We welcome peaceful protests and understand that the community and families are frustrated,” said Modeste. “It's difficult to see someone lose their life … We're not just sitting back and watching people die in our custody.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Modeste outlined various initiatives the Sheriff's Office has taken, including building a focus group and inviting community members to discussions with the executive staff and Sanchez about grievances; working with federal monitors and attorneys who represent the incarcerated population on federal oversight; working collectively with community-based partners; sending out press releases when someone dies in custody; and getting in touch with families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11945441\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11945441 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A young woman with a dark, shaved head, wearing a sleeveless black tank top, black jeans, and black Adidas sneakers, holds a microphone with both hands as she stands in front of signs that are yellow, red and white. Several people stand off to the side looking in her direction.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kari Malkki, a healing justice intern at Restore Oakland, addresses the crowd of demonstrators on the plaza in front of Santa Rita Jail on April 1, 2023. \u003ccite>(Annelise Finney/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We're putting policies and practices in place so that we can make sure that when something like this happens, that we look at our policies, we look at our practices, we look at our services,\" said Modeste. \"We invite all the stakeholders to the table so that we're discussing this together and we're looking at ways to make sure we're providing better service for our incarcerated population. Sheriff Sanchez is committed to restoring public trust. She's committed to making sure that we're being absolutely transparent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Katy Polony, a family advocate who works with \u003ca href=\"https://acfasmi.org/\">Families Advocating for the Seriously Mentally Ill\u003c/a> (FASMI), says there's a need for more hospital beds, supportive housing, continuum of care and case management teams.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11945443\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11945443 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A large group of people sit and stand looking in the same direction, many wearing bright yellow, with a low, green hill and trees behind them.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A crowd of demonstrators, including faith leaders, community organizers, formerly incarcerated people and the families of people who died while at Santa Rita, listen quietly as Norma Nelson (not pictured) shares her experience of trying to get information from the Sheriff's Office about the death of her brother, Donald Nelson, in Santa Rita Jail in 2020. \u003ccite>(Annelise Finney/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Families are getting no support, no training, nothing. When their kids are cycling through the system, they're like, ‘What do I do? What am I doing?’” said Polony. “The most important thing with someone who has schizophrenia or another psychotic disease is to treat them right away. We need early intervention programs, which means a psychiatrist, a psychologist, a vocal rehab … We could do it, but we don't.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tiffany Monk says her brother who had schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and high blood pressure died in Santa Rita Jail, but that the lack of communication and cooperation from the authorities means she’s still not sure exactly what happened to him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I'm hoping [the new sheriff] makes a difference, that she takes her job seriously and holds these people accountable, because it's not right,\" said Monk. \"They're killing people and it's like nothing's happening.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The average daily population at Santa Rita Jail fell to 2,108 in the fourth quarter of 2022, according to a survey by the \u003ca href=\"http://www.bscc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/Jail-Pop-Trends-Through-Q4-2022_3.20.23.pdf\">Board of State and Community Corrections (PDF)\u003c/a>, while on April 2, the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office reported a \u003ca href=\"https://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/ACSO-35285e4?wgt_ref=ACSO_WIDGET_2\">population of 1,778\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Care First Coalition has been calling for the reinvestment of funds from the jail into community-based mental health and substance use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The federal court decree requiring county investment in increased staffing of the jail is based on an estimate of 3,000 prisoners, which Santa Rita has not had since 2014,” said John Lindsay-Poland of American Friends Service Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story has been updated to include the latest average daily population figures for Santa Rita Jail, and a comment from John Lindsay-Poland of American Friends Service Committee.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Annelise Finney and Spencer Whitney contributed reporting to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"With four people having died within 6 weeks in 2023 alone, families and civil rights groups expressed grief and outrage over conditions at the notorious Dublin-based facility in Alameda County where protesters say more than 60 people lost their lives in the last 10 years.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1680636382,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":1370},"headData":{"title":"Community and Civil Rights Groups Hold Vigil and Rally Over Recent Deaths at Santa Rita Jail | KQED","description":"With four people having died within 6 weeks in 2023 alone, families and civil rights groups expressed grief and outrage over conditions at the notorious Dublin-based facility in Alameda County where protesters say more than 60 people lost their lives in the last 10 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and families of those affected by mental illness and incarceration held a vigil and noise demonstration organized by the Care First Community Coalition on Saturday to grieve and protest a \u003ca href=\"https://www.ktvu.com/news/4th-person-to-die-at-santa-rita-jail-in-6-weeks\">spate of recent deaths at Santa Rita Jail\u003c/a>, Alameda County's main adult detention facility.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'At a certain point there is something called compassion, and we are sorely missing it as a society, particularly when it comes to Black and brown folks.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Dorsey Nunn, executive director, Legal Services for Prisoners with Children","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Dublin-based jail is not only one of the largest detention facilities in the United States, it is also \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11918230/grand-jury-major-health-and-safety-violations-at-santa-rita-jail-require-urgent-attention\">one of the most notorious\u003c/a>, where major health and safety violations have been reported and where over 66 people have lost their lives since 2014. So far this year, there have been four deaths at Santa Rita Jail.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“All four of those people died needlessly within days of their intake,” said Joy George with \u003ca href=\"https://restoreoakland.org/\">Restore Oakland\u003c/a>, a community advocacy group. “They died after being evaluated … even though there were multiple red flags. They should have been diverted. They should have been elsewhere. They should not have been incarcerated at Santa Rita Jail.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The facility was \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2022/02/08/judge-places-santa-rita-jail-under-external-oversight-ending-mental-health-abuse-lawsuit/\">placed under federal supervision in 2022 for at least six years\u003c/a> to improve conditions for those experiencing mental illness. During the rally, protestors read the names of those who had died in the jail over the last nine years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11945442\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11945442 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Large white signs, with names, birth and death dates painted in black, lay arranged on a cement walkway in neat rows.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9642-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Demonstrators lay 66 painted signs on the plaza in front of the jail, each bearing the name of a person who died in the jail over the last decade. \u003ccite>(Annelise Finney/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While some of the deaths have been attributed by jail officials to suspected fentanyl overdoses, protesters say the majority generally were caused by people not getting the care they needed (whether for mental illness or substance use disorder) in the facility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11945446\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11945446 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A Black man wearing black clothing and holding a microphone stands in front of several colored signs on a cement walkway outside.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9652-1-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dorsey Nunn, executive director of Legal Services for Prisoners With Children, speaks to a crowd of demonstrators in front of Santa Rita Jail. \u003ccite>(Annelise Finney/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“In the event that I'm out of control with a drug habit, should you take me to a drug program or should you take me to jail?” said Dorsey Nunn, executive director of the nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://prisonerswithchildren.org/\">Legal Services for Prisoners With Children\u003c/a>. “At a certain point there is something called compassion, and we are sorely missing it as a society, particularly when it comes to Black and brown folks.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates with the Care First Community Coalition pushed for the \"Care First, Jails Last\" policy resolution that was adopted by Alameda County in 2021, which set goals for law enforcement agencies in the county to stop the practice of arresting and jailing people dealing with mental health and/or substance use issues. The resolution also called for creating a community-led process to establish behavioral/mental health care and social services. The coalition demanded that the Alameda County Board of Supervisors investigate jail deaths and provide over $50 million for mental health services that were promised but have yet to be implemented. A meeting with the board about budget presentations will be held on April 11.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11918230,news_11854891,news_11853540","label":"Related Posts "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“The last time my brother Donald Nelson was able to walk, it was walking into this facility … that was May 1st, 2020,” said Norma Nelson. She said her brother, Donald Nelson, died after he was fatally assaulted in a holding cell by another detainee just hours into custody. “Losing a loved one who needs medical and mental health care while in the hands of our social and criminal justice system cuts to the heart with a different kind of pain — it’s deep.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nelson added that the sheriff's department didn't acknowledge the murder publicly until a reporter months later reported it. Lt. Tya Modeste, public information officer for the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office, said she was aware that the jail's “reputation wasn’t great in the past” and that “people found out their family members passed away by hearing it on the news,” but she says they’ve been working hard under the new sheriff, Yesenia Sanchez, to turn that around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We welcome peaceful protests and understand that the community and families are frustrated,” said Modeste. “It's difficult to see someone lose their life … We're not just sitting back and watching people die in our custody.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Modeste outlined various initiatives the Sheriff's Office has taken, including building a focus group and inviting community members to discussions with the executive staff and Sanchez about grievances; working with federal monitors and attorneys who represent the incarcerated population on federal oversight; working collectively with community-based partners; sending out press releases when someone dies in custody; and getting in touch with families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11945441\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11945441 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A young woman with a dark, shaved head, wearing a sleeveless black tank top, black jeans, and black Adidas sneakers, holds a microphone with both hands as she stands in front of signs that are yellow, red and white. Several people stand off to the side looking in her direction.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9639-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kari Malkki, a healing justice intern at Restore Oakland, addresses the crowd of demonstrators on the plaza in front of Santa Rita Jail on April 1, 2023. \u003ccite>(Annelise Finney/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We're putting policies and practices in place so that we can make sure that when something like this happens, that we look at our policies, we look at our practices, we look at our services,\" said Modeste. \"We invite all the stakeholders to the table so that we're discussing this together and we're looking at ways to make sure we're providing better service for our incarcerated population. Sheriff Sanchez is committed to restoring public trust. She's committed to making sure that we're being absolutely transparent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Katy Polony, a family advocate who works with \u003ca href=\"https://acfasmi.org/\">Families Advocating for the Seriously Mentally Ill\u003c/a> (FASMI), says there's a need for more hospital beds, supportive housing, continuum of care and case management teams.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11945443\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11945443 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"A large group of people sit and stand looking in the same direction, many wearing bright yellow, with a low, green hill and trees behind them.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/IMG_9646-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A crowd of demonstrators, including faith leaders, community organizers, formerly incarcerated people and the families of people who died while at Santa Rita, listen quietly as Norma Nelson (not pictured) shares her experience of trying to get information from the Sheriff's Office about the death of her brother, Donald Nelson, in Santa Rita Jail in 2020. \u003ccite>(Annelise Finney/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Families are getting no support, no training, nothing. When their kids are cycling through the system, they're like, ‘What do I do? What am I doing?’” said Polony. “The most important thing with someone who has schizophrenia or another psychotic disease is to treat them right away. We need early intervention programs, which means a psychiatrist, a psychologist, a vocal rehab … We could do it, but we don't.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tiffany Monk says her brother who had schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and high blood pressure died in Santa Rita Jail, but that the lack of communication and cooperation from the authorities means she’s still not sure exactly what happened to him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I'm hoping [the new sheriff] makes a difference, that she takes her job seriously and holds these people accountable, because it's not right,\" said Monk. \"They're killing people and it's like nothing's happening.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The average daily population at Santa Rita Jail fell to 2,108 in the fourth quarter of 2022, according to a survey by the \u003ca href=\"http://www.bscc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/Jail-Pop-Trends-Through-Q4-2022_3.20.23.pdf\">Board of State and Community Corrections (PDF)\u003c/a>, while on April 2, the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office reported a \u003ca href=\"https://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/ACSO-35285e4?wgt_ref=ACSO_WIDGET_2\">population of 1,778\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Care First Coalition has been calling for the reinvestment of funds from the jail into community-based mental health and substance use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The federal court decree requiring county investment in increased staffing of the jail is based on an estimate of 3,000 prisoners, which Santa Rita has not had since 2014,” said John Lindsay-Poland of American Friends Service Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story has been updated to include the latest average daily population figures for Santa Rita Jail, and a comment from John Lindsay-Poland of American Friends Service Committee.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Annelise Finney and Spencer Whitney contributed reporting to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11945438/community-and-civil-rights-groups-hold-vigil-and-rally-over-recent-deaths-at-santa-rita-jail","authors":["11812"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_32597","news_3112","news_2109","news_17983","news_21568","news_30006"],"featImg":"news_11945440","label":"news"},"news_11900490":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11900490","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11900490","score":null,"sort":[1642126133000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-realities-of-getting-covid-from-the-kqed-hosts-whove-been-there","title":"The Realities of Getting COVID, From the KQED Hosts Who've Been There","publishDate":1642126133,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Skip to:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#symptoms\">What are the symptoms of a breakthrough infection of COVID?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#todo\">What steps should I follow if I test positive?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>We used to think of breakthrough cases of COVID in vaccinated people as being relatively rare. But the rise of the omicron variant has shown that's no longer the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We know \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11899272/omicron-evades-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccines-new-studies-suggest-but-boosters-help\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> booster shots help raise your protection against omicron\u003c/a>, as public health officials urge everyone eligible for one to get one. We also know that being vaccinated still gives you greater protection against severe hospitalization and death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, when a breakthrough case happens, it can be easy to feel surprise and shock. Just ask three of our own KQED hosts:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/ogpenn\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Pendarvis Harshaw\u003c/a>, KQED Arts and Culture columnist and host of the\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/podcasts/rightnowish\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> podcast Rightnowish\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/amadrigal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Alexis Madrigal\u003c/a>, cohost of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum\">KQED Forum\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/mlagos\">Marisa Lagos\u003c/a>, California politics and government correspondent and cohost of the\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/podcasts/politicalbreakdown\"> Political Breakdown\u003c/a> podcast\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>All three have experienced their own breakthrough COVID cases in the last months, and there's a lot they wish they'd known. If you've been wondering how a positive COVID test right now might affect your daily life, keep reading to learn about their experiences — from the symptoms and logistical stresses to the importance of self-care, and what they wish they could have planned for beforehand.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"symptoms\">\u003c/a>What are the common symptoms of a breakthrough COVID case?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For Pendarvis Harshaw, the first sign of his COVID case in summer 2021 was losing his smell. \"I got a bit of a cough and the first thing I remember was trying to spray some cologne and then smell it,\" he says. \"That's when I was like, 'Wait, I can't smell my cologne.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901698\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1020px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901698\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/OGPenn_LaraKaur_1920x1080-1020x574-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1020\" height=\"574\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/OGPenn_LaraKaur_1920x1080-1020x574-1.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/OGPenn_LaraKaur_1920x1080-1020x574-1-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/OGPenn_LaraKaur_1920x1080-1020x574-1-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1020px) 100vw, 1020px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">KQED podcast host Pendarvis Harshaw \u003ccite>(Lara Kaur/Community Portrait Pop-Up)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In Marisa Lagos's home, all of her family contracted the omicron variant over the holidays. For her, it showed up as what she calls \"flu-like symptoms.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was in bed for a few days, just really fatigued. But nothing serious — nowhere even approaching, needing to go to the hospital,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While most people with a breakthrough COVID case experience mild symptoms, you still should acknowledge that you’re sick and it won't feel great. And people experience symptoms differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1976780/what-i-learned-from-my-mild-breakthrough-case-of-covid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dr. Bob Wachter, chair of UCSF's Department of Medicine, told NPR \u003c/a>that the terminology \"mild\" is really a catchall. It can go from being \"a day of feeling crummy to being completely laid up in bed for a week, all of your bones hurt and your brain isn't working well.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Common COVID-19 symptoms, according to the CDC, include\u003c/strong>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Fever or chills\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Cough\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Fatigue\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Muscle or body aches\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Headache\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>New loss of taste or smell\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sore throat\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Congestion or runny nose\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Nausea or vomiting\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Diarrhea\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>After a COVID home test and a drive-through rapid PCR test both came back positive, the realization sank in for Harshaw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think I had one day where I was just, like, straight on the ground … laid out in a fetal position,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As far as symptoms, he remembers a \"little bit of the sniffles, a little bit of sneezing, definitely chills, body aches — you name it. ... Energy depleted, feeling like gravity is tenfold.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alexis Madrigal says his early symptoms started with a \"little tickle in the back of the throat\" and a stuffy nose. \"It wasn't really until the test came back positive that I was like, 'Oh, no.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Don't necessarily expect a COVID infection to register in your body like you assume it might, says Madrigal, who notes there was \"nothing super distinctive\" about his sickness at that early stage of testing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I did lose my sense of smell, but it was much later,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901702\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901702\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">KQED host Alexis Madrigal \u003ccite>(Courtesy Alexis Madrigal)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>When should you get a COVID test?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>If you have a fever or a cough or feel any \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">symptoms outlined by the CDC\u003c/a>, you could have COVID-19 and should get tested. If you've come in close contact with someone who tested positive for the virus, get tested.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of this advice comes with the \u003cem>big\u003c/em> caveat: We know that finding a test fast, whether it's an onsite PCR test or an at-home test like a BinaxNOW kit, can be tricky — and, in the case of at-home tests, expensive. And you might have to be prepared to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11898455/where-to-find-a-covid-test-near-you-in-the-bay-area\">explore multiple options for getting a COVID test\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I have to acknowledge that we are in a position of privilege,\" says Lagos, since she and her family \"had access to a lot of at-home tests that we had bought prior to this scare ahead of seeing people for Christmas.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11898455/where-to-find-a-covid-test-near-you-in-the-bay-area\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Looking for a COVID test near you in the Bay Area? Read our guide to finding one.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>I'm fully vaccinated. When should I take a COVID test? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Do you have symptoms? If so, try to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11898455/where-to-find-a-covid-test-near-you-in-the-bay-area\">find a test immediately\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CDC recommends that if you've come into close contact with someone with COVID-19, fully vaccinated people should be tested five to seven days after your last exposure — i.e., when you came into contact with someone who has a confirmed case of COVID-19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is already \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/how-long-are-you-contagious-with-omicron-covid-infection-heres-what-health-experts-say/2727655/\">evidence that the omicron variant may have a shorter incubation period than previous forms of COVID\u003c/a>. But if you choose to test earlier than five days from an exposure, don't take an early negative result as definitive proof you \u003cem>don't\u003c/em> have COVID. Keep testing, to be sure you're not infectious and inadvertently spreading COVID to others.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lagos's story highlights the importance of repeat testing — and not accepting an early at-home negative result as a sign someone has no COVID risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We had actually asked everybody to take those rapid tests [over the holidays], just to be safe,\" she says. \"And so we had tested ourselves and our kids. I did have one kid who had some minor cold symptoms and we tested him repeatedly. And he didn't come up positive until after Christmas, after we had seen people.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901699\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901699\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/Marisa-Lagos-lead.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"667\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/Marisa-Lagos-lead.jpeg 1000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/Marisa-Lagos-lead-800x534.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/Marisa-Lagos-lead-160x107.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">KQED host Marisa Lagos \u003ccite>(Stephanie Lister/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>I'm not yet vaccinated. When should I take a COVID test? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you're not fully vaccinated and are experiencing symptoms of COVID-19, you should get tested immediately. If you're not fully vaccinated and have been in close contact with someone who tested positive for COVID-19, get tested immediately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CDC says you should get tested again five to seven days after your last exposure and immediately if you experience symptoms.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"todo\">\u003c/a>What steps should I follow if I test positive for COVID?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>If you do test positive for COVID with an at-home test or a PCR test, don’t panic. Find a way to confirm your results with a second test while you plan to isolate yourself from anyone else in your household. \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/steps-when-sick.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The CDC has a specific checklist you can follow if you get sick. \u003c/a>Read along for key takeaways and advice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reporting your positive COVID test\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>If you test positive for COVID on a PCR test, someone from the health department may call you as part of their \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/contact-tracing.html#you-are-diagnosed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">contact tracing efforts\u003c/a> to slow the spread of COVID.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, if you test positive for COVID using a home antigen test, the California Department of Public Health says \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Over-The-Counter-Tests-LHJ-Guidance.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">there are certain steps you should take to report your results\u003c/a> when using an over-the-counter test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul class=\"p-rich_text_list p-rich_text_list__bullet\" data-stringify-type=\"unordered-list\" data-indent=\"0\" data-border=\"0\">\n\u003cli data-stringify-indent=\"0\" data-stringify-border=\"0\">Use the instructions on your test to self-report your COVID-positive results.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli data-stringify-indent=\"0\" data-stringify-border=\"0\">Some over-the-counter tests may have automatic reporting, while others require you to report your own results through an app on your phone.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli data-stringify-indent=\"0\" data-stringify-border=\"0\">If your test does not provide electronic reporting and you have health care coverage, you can share your results with a health care provider to receive appropriate medical care.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Kaiser says that if you have a positive home antigen test — whether you're symptomatic or not — you're considered positive for COVID and \u003cem>don't\u003c/em> need to confirm with a PCR test, but you should still report your positive COVID-19 home test. If you're a Kaiser member, you can report your positive test using their \u003ca href=\"https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/SkkECkRozNIYAX4zS9hOx2?domain=healthy.kaiserpermanente.org\">positive COVID-19 home test e-visit\u003c/a> tool.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a journalist, Lagos says she can't help but be \"struck\" by what the lack of a consistent system for self-reporting positive home test results means for public COVID case numbers this winter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're probably undercounting these pretty dramatically at this point,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Talk to your people\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you've tested positive for COVID, it's essential that you let any of your close contacts know that they may have been exposed to the virus. Whether this is through a group text or a phone call, letting anyone you may have come into direct contact with gives others a chance to prepare and get tested themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Madrigal says he began interrogating himself about whom he'd been in contact with — his neighbors, his mother-in-law and his children. \"\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You kind of get in touch with folks, and they immediately want to go get tested,\" he said. \"That's people's very natural reaction.\" \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But when \u003cem>is\u003c/em> the best time for your close contacts to get tested?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The CDC says that someone with COVID-19 can spread the virus starting 48 hours or two days before the person has any symptoms or tests positive. For your fully vaccinated close contacts, it's best if they take their test five to seven days after their initial exposure of coming into contact with you. For anyone unvaccinated, it's important that they get tested right away. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Madrigal says that going back and tracing everyone he came into contact with, and handling those logistics, were some of the most challenging aspects of getting COVID: \"When we say we're 'all in it together' in a positive way ... you're also all in it together in the sense that everyone you've exposed is in it with you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That was tough,\" he admits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901097\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901097\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing scrubs and a face mask and a plastic protector sticks a nose swab into another person's nose.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1706\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Merline Jimene administers a COVID-19 test swab to a person at a testing site located in the international terminal at Los Angeles International Airport amid a surge in omicron variant cases on Dec. 21, 2021. \u003ccite>(Mario Tama/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Isolate from others\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CDC recommends\u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quarantine-isolation.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> isolating yourself from other members of your household\u003c/a> — if possible, within a separate, contained area in your home and away from others — for at least five full days, with Day Zero as the day you first experienced symptoms. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11900296/cdc-recommends-shorter-covid-isolation-and-quarantine-periods\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">This CDC guidance changed from a previous isolation period of 10 days\u003c/a>, and local public health experts encourage you to weigh the risks of breaking isolation earlier than 10 days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's essential to only venture out if you need to seek immediate medical care. If you're experiencing\u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html\"> any of the CDC's emergency warning signs\u003c/a> like trouble breathing, pressure in the chest, or pale, gray, or blue-colored skin, seek medical care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Madrigal says that as soon as his at-home test came back positive, he was on the phone to schedule his PCR test while packing a bag to isolate from his family in a separate apartment. \"We were lucky enough to find a neighbor who had a rental [nearby]\" where he was able to isolate, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Lagos acknowledges she feels \"lucky\" to have had access to paid time off, during which she and her partner could stay home, \"in terms of preventing it from spreading throughout a household, I mean — we have tiny homes in San Francisco,\" she notes. \"Most of us don't \u003cem>have\u003c/em> extra bedrooms or bathrooms.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For that reason, Lagos says that in her personal experience, much of the official advice about isolating with COVID \"is not that practical when you're actually in this situation — particularly with kids involved.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If finding a separate space to wait out isolation or quarantine outside your home isn't possible for you, either, try to designate spaces within your home that reduce the possibility of transmission. That might look like sleeping in another room, using a separate bathroom, wearing masks inside at all times or improving ventilation within your home — for example, by opening your windows. The CDC also recommends avoiding sharing all personal household items — towels, dishes, glassware — with the folks you live with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Think about it this way, recommends Madrigal: Even if you can't isolate in a completely separate space, \"what is the way that I can reduce my exposing the people around me as much as possible?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Monitor your symptoms\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Remember to keep track of your symptoms — even if it means writing them down. If you ever have any of the following symptoms, or any of the other \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html#seek-medical-attention\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">emergency warning signs per the CDC\u003c/a>, call 911 immediately:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Trouble breathing\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Persistent pain or pressure in the chest\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>New confusion\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Inability to wake or stay awake\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Pale, gray, or blue-colored skin, lips, or nail beds, depending on skin tone\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp class=\"tr-paragraph\" data-pm-slice='2 2 [\"paragraph-wrapper\",{}]'>Madrigal says it's essential to keep an eye on your body after your COVID diagnosis: \"If I didn't have these kinds of metrics [like resting heart rate], I might just think it was all in my head.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[pullquote size='medium' align='right' citation=\"Pendarvis Harshaw, KQED columnist and host of podcast Rightnowish\"]'Any time you go through something traumatic, you go through something significant — you want a support group.'[/pullquote]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901091\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901091\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-scaled.jpg\" alt='Several small boxes are stacked next to each other on a counter, each one has the same design and label, which read, \"COVID-19 Antigen Home Test.\"' width=\"2560\" height=\"1706\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rapid COVID-19 test kits await distribution at Union Station in Los Angeles on Jan. 7, 2022. \u003ccite>(Frederic J. Brown/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Find a support network\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harshaw's own COVID diagnosis came at a time when he and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13901531/lawyers-investigate-death-of-steve-zumbi-gaines-zion-i-mc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a community of fans were grieving after the death of Steve 'Zumbi' Gaines\u003c/a>, the prolific MC of Zion I. Recognizing that his positive result was coming at a particularly tough time, rather than running from that fact, was key for him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Any time you go through something traumatic, you go through something significant — you want a support group ... to survive life, have a support group,\" Harshaw says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several of Harshaw's friends also caught COVID in different circumstances around the same time Harshaw himself was isolating. In this way, having loved ones to turn to and talk about their shared experiences in a group chat transformed Harshaw's isolation time into a source of comfort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When it comes to facing something of this magnitude, make sure you have a friend or two that you can talk to,\" he advises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Don't overlook self-care\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Get plenty of rest, stay hydrated and take over-the-counter medicines like acetaminophen as needed to address any physical discomfort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Harshaw, balancing his own COVID diagnosis and mental health required a careful dance between nourishing his physical and spiritual self-care. “It was the balance of trying to nurture myself,\" he says. \"Like physical nourishment, and make sure I eat soup and drink juice while \u003cem>also\u003c/em> don't lose my head.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once Harshaw had addressed and handled the logistics of child care, he resolved to unplug. For him, this looked like grabbing a book, a puzzle, and an intricate coloring sheet from the library and turning up the jazz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also admits that was the time\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13898520/cat-daddy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> he finally bonded with his cat\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11900815\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11900815 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A bag of oranges in a white knit bag. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">When it comes to logistics like grocery shopping, reach out to a network of support and find someone who can help. \u003ccite>(Cottonbro/Pexels)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>How do I handle the logistics of a positive test?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Let's face it: A positive COVID result requires a near-immediate halt to your typical day-to-day life as you know it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you first get that positive result, you'll start thinking about all the ways you might be interacting with others, from the care you provide for your family to how you interact with roommates — and, of course, your work and ability to earn money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Handling child care when you have COVID\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because Madrigal and his whole family had to isolate, his kids were out of school for a week — and his partner also had to quarantine \u003cem>with\u003c/em> them. \"My wife had to have a whole bunch of conversations with her work,\" he admits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he adds that child care extended beyond their family unit and included others from a wider circle of support — family, neighbors, friends — who helped them out by bringing over toys for their kids to play with. \"I\u003cspan data-pm-slice='1 1 [\"paragraph-wrapper\",{},\"paragraph\",{\"id\":\"p13-0\"}]'>t was pretty sweet how people kind of came together in our community around,\" says Madrigal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Think about neighbors, friends and extended family members who would be able to step in and support with child care while you're isolating, or even who might be able to pick essential care items like groceries or medicines, if home delivery isn't an option.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Harshaw, who co-parents his young daughter, coordinating child care with her mother after his positive test was crucial. \"I asked if she could take my daughter for a couple more days while I got better,\" he says. \"Hats off to her. She held it down, and I really appreciate that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Groceries and accessing food while self-isolating\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you're isolating, it's essential that you stay home until it's safe for you to be around others — and the CDC recently changed its isolation guidance to span at least a full five days. That makes grabbing the essential supplies you need to isolate difficult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When it came to figuring out what to eat and how to get groceries, Harshaw turned to his networks of support. \"I worked with the neighbor to get a couple of things,\" he says. \"But other than that, I just dug deep into my cabinets.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says having his old emergency earthquake go-bag ready from the start of the pandemic was his go-to for feeding himself while he self-isolated — that, and a bag of frozen only-open-in-case-of-emergency lemons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Find out if your employer can cover your pay while you self-isolate\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Talk to your employer to identify what protections you have in case of a COVID-19-positive diagnosis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The repercussions of not going to work are not equal for all workers. Many hourly workers are not granted the same protections or benefits that salaried workers are. At the end of 2021, California ended its COVID-19 Supplemental Paid Sick Leave (SPSL), which granted workers 80 extra hours of leave if they tested positive for the coronavirus or had to care for a family member.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, exclusion pay is still required for California workers who have to quarantine due to a COVID-19 exposure at your workplace. Through the \u003ca href=\"https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/COVID19Resources/FAQ-Exclusion-Pay-ETS.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Emergency Temporary Standards (ETS)\u003c/a>, Cal/OSHA requires employers to maintain an employee's pay and benefits for any worker who is \"excluded\" from a workplace while they isolate or quarantine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are limitations to this temporary exclusion pay, however. The ETS does not extend to any COVID exposure that wasn't work-related. So if you were exposed outside of work, your employer isn't obligated by the state to pay for lost wages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's also limited to workers, which means the state is not requiring your employer to maintain your pay or benefits if you're caring for a family member — including children.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, you may be eligible for sick leave or other benefits such as disability insurance, paid family leave, or unemployment insurance benefits. Your own city or county also may offer programs to support people who are losing work because of a COVID diagnosis, such as \u003ca href=\"https://oewd.org/employees-impacted-covid-19\">San Francisco's Right to Recover \u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Program that provides $1,285 to reimburse \"or pay reasonable and necessary personal, family, or living expenses\" to any worker who lives in SF and tests positive for COVID,\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">and \"anticipates \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">experiencing financial hardship during their two-week quarantine or isolation\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\" This particular program is offered regardless of a person's immigration or citizenship status. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Skip to: \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11894053/got-covid-19-at-your-job-and-applying-for-workers-comp-in-california-heres-how-it-works\">Got COVID-19 at Your Job and Applying for Workers' Comp in California? Here's How It Works\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[pullquote size='medium' align='right' citation=\"Alexis Madrigal, co-host of KQED's Forum\"]'The best way I can describe it is: I can feel where my heart is all the time. And not in, like a cute way.'[/pullquote]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11899398\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11899398\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A gloved blue hands held by a nurse in a blue robe hold a small white COVID-19 testing vial and swab.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1291\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut-800x538.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut-1020x686.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut-1536x1033.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A registered nurse stirs a nasal swab in testing solution after administering a COVID-19 test at Sameday Testing on July 14, 2021, in Los Angeles. \u003ccite>(Mario Tama/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>What should people who've just tested positive know?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>As natural as it is, don't panic thinking you've automatically exposed or infected your loved ones in your home, says Madrigal. That's not \"actually how the virus works.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You actually have some leverage to protect the people around you even after you've tested positive and been in the house with them,\" he says. Madrigal also says to remember that, with the proper isolation and protection, keeping your loved ones safe from COVID isn't off the table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For him, another big takeaway he wishes he'd known before getting COVID is the importance of preparing a COVID emergency plan \u003cem>before\u003c/em> you test positive — much like you would have for an earthquake or wildfire — to make your life easier while you prepare to isolate or quarantine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Some things to include in your COVID emergency kit\u003c/strong>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Food and liquids to last up to 10 days\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Extra N95s, KN95s or well-fitting masks\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Fans or other ventilation\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Extra testing supplies\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A designated place to isolate — that could be in a space closed off from roommates, family members or children\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A phone tree, texting group or go-to list of people who could help you with child care or groceries — it could be a neighbor, friend or family member\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Harshaw says that for him, getting COVID offered a lesson in suppressing the ego: \"\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It's not about self. It's not about how you're perceived by the larger community. It is really about the health: the benefit of us as a people being on one accord.\" \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harshaw also says that isolating and spending a lot of alone time with yourself brings its own challenges — especially if you want to stay glued to the news.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\"It's hard to be with yourself. There are some pretty ugly thoughts in there,\" he says. \"So, having a support group, having hobbies and healthy outlets — and a couple of snacks.\"\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Worried about getting a breakthrough COVID infection? Hear directly from three KQED hosts who've been there — and read what they wish they'd known.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1642126133,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":91,"wordCount":3798},"headData":{"title":"The Realities of Getting COVID, From the KQED Hosts Who've Been There | KQED","description":"Worried about getting a breakthrough COVID infection? Hear directly from three KQED hosts who've been there — and read what they wish they'd known.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"The Realities of Getting COVID, From the KQED Hosts Who've Been There","datePublished":"2022-01-14T02:08:53.000Z","dateModified":"2022-01-14T02:08:53.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11900490 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11900490","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2022/01/13/the-realities-of-getting-covid-from-the-kqed-hosts-whove-been-there/","disqusTitle":"The Realities of Getting COVID, From the KQED Hosts Who've Been There","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11900490/the-realities-of-getting-covid-from-the-kqed-hosts-whove-been-there","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Skip to:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#symptoms\">What are the symptoms of a breakthrough infection of COVID?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"#todo\">What steps should I follow if I test positive?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>We used to think of breakthrough cases of COVID in vaccinated people as being relatively rare. But the rise of the omicron variant has shown that's no longer the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We know \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11899272/omicron-evades-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccines-new-studies-suggest-but-boosters-help\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> booster shots help raise your protection against omicron\u003c/a>, as public health officials urge everyone eligible for one to get one. We also know that being vaccinated still gives you greater protection against severe hospitalization and death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, when a breakthrough case happens, it can be easy to feel surprise and shock. Just ask three of our own KQED hosts:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/ogpenn\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Pendarvis Harshaw\u003c/a>, KQED Arts and Culture columnist and host of the\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/podcasts/rightnowish\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> podcast Rightnowish\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/amadrigal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Alexis Madrigal\u003c/a>, cohost of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum\">KQED Forum\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/mlagos\">Marisa Lagos\u003c/a>, California politics and government correspondent and cohost of the\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/podcasts/politicalbreakdown\"> Political Breakdown\u003c/a> podcast\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>All three have experienced their own breakthrough COVID cases in the last months, and there's a lot they wish they'd known. If you've been wondering how a positive COVID test right now might affect your daily life, keep reading to learn about their experiences — from the symptoms and logistical stresses to the importance of self-care, and what they wish they could have planned for beforehand.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"symptoms\">\u003c/a>What are the common symptoms of a breakthrough COVID case?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For Pendarvis Harshaw, the first sign of his COVID case in summer 2021 was losing his smell. \"I got a bit of a cough and the first thing I remember was trying to spray some cologne and then smell it,\" he says. \"That's when I was like, 'Wait, I can't smell my cologne.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901698\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1020px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901698\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/OGPenn_LaraKaur_1920x1080-1020x574-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1020\" height=\"574\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/OGPenn_LaraKaur_1920x1080-1020x574-1.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/OGPenn_LaraKaur_1920x1080-1020x574-1-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/OGPenn_LaraKaur_1920x1080-1020x574-1-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1020px) 100vw, 1020px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">KQED podcast host Pendarvis Harshaw \u003ccite>(Lara Kaur/Community Portrait Pop-Up)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In Marisa Lagos's home, all of her family contracted the omicron variant over the holidays. For her, it showed up as what she calls \"flu-like symptoms.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was in bed for a few days, just really fatigued. But nothing serious — nowhere even approaching, needing to go to the hospital,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While most people with a breakthrough COVID case experience mild symptoms, you still should acknowledge that you’re sick and it won't feel great. And people experience symptoms differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1976780/what-i-learned-from-my-mild-breakthrough-case-of-covid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dr. Bob Wachter, chair of UCSF's Department of Medicine, told NPR \u003c/a>that the terminology \"mild\" is really a catchall. It can go from being \"a day of feeling crummy to being completely laid up in bed for a week, all of your bones hurt and your brain isn't working well.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Common COVID-19 symptoms, according to the CDC, include\u003c/strong>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Fever or chills\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Cough\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Fatigue\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Muscle or body aches\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Headache\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>New loss of taste or smell\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sore throat\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Congestion or runny nose\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Nausea or vomiting\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Diarrhea\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>After a COVID home test and a drive-through rapid PCR test both came back positive, the realization sank in for Harshaw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think I had one day where I was just, like, straight on the ground … laid out in a fetal position,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As far as symptoms, he remembers a \"little bit of the sniffles, a little bit of sneezing, definitely chills, body aches — you name it. ... Energy depleted, feeling like gravity is tenfold.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alexis Madrigal says his early symptoms started with a \"little tickle in the back of the throat\" and a stuffy nose. \"It wasn't really until the test came back positive that I was like, 'Oh, no.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Don't necessarily expect a COVID infection to register in your body like you assume it might, says Madrigal, who notes there was \"nothing super distinctive\" about his sickness at that early stage of testing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I did lose my sense of smell, but it was much later,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901702\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901702\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/RS53013_unnamed-1-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">KQED host Alexis Madrigal \u003ccite>(Courtesy Alexis Madrigal)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>When should you get a COVID test?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>If you have a fever or a cough or feel any \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">symptoms outlined by the CDC\u003c/a>, you could have COVID-19 and should get tested. If you've come in close contact with someone who tested positive for the virus, get tested.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of this advice comes with the \u003cem>big\u003c/em> caveat: We know that finding a test fast, whether it's an onsite PCR test or an at-home test like a BinaxNOW kit, can be tricky — and, in the case of at-home tests, expensive. And you might have to be prepared to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11898455/where-to-find-a-covid-test-near-you-in-the-bay-area\">explore multiple options for getting a COVID test\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I have to acknowledge that we are in a position of privilege,\" says Lagos, since she and her family \"had access to a lot of at-home tests that we had bought prior to this scare ahead of seeing people for Christmas.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11898455/where-to-find-a-covid-test-near-you-in-the-bay-area\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Looking for a COVID test near you in the Bay Area? Read our guide to finding one.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>I'm fully vaccinated. When should I take a COVID test? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Do you have symptoms? If so, try to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11898455/where-to-find-a-covid-test-near-you-in-the-bay-area\">find a test immediately\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CDC recommends that if you've come into close contact with someone with COVID-19, fully vaccinated people should be tested five to seven days after your last exposure — i.e., when you came into contact with someone who has a confirmed case of COVID-19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is already \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/how-long-are-you-contagious-with-omicron-covid-infection-heres-what-health-experts-say/2727655/\">evidence that the omicron variant may have a shorter incubation period than previous forms of COVID\u003c/a>. But if you choose to test earlier than five days from an exposure, don't take an early negative result as definitive proof you \u003cem>don't\u003c/em> have COVID. Keep testing, to be sure you're not infectious and inadvertently spreading COVID to others.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lagos's story highlights the importance of repeat testing — and not accepting an early at-home negative result as a sign someone has no COVID risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We had actually asked everybody to take those rapid tests [over the holidays], just to be safe,\" she says. \"And so we had tested ourselves and our kids. I did have one kid who had some minor cold symptoms and we tested him repeatedly. And he didn't come up positive until after Christmas, after we had seen people.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901699\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901699\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/Marisa-Lagos-lead.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"667\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/Marisa-Lagos-lead.jpeg 1000w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/Marisa-Lagos-lead-800x534.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/Marisa-Lagos-lead-160x107.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">KQED host Marisa Lagos \u003ccite>(Stephanie Lister/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>I'm not yet vaccinated. When should I take a COVID test? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you're not fully vaccinated and are experiencing symptoms of COVID-19, you should get tested immediately. If you're not fully vaccinated and have been in close contact with someone who tested positive for COVID-19, get tested immediately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CDC says you should get tested again five to seven days after your last exposure and immediately if you experience symptoms.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"todo\">\u003c/a>What steps should I follow if I test positive for COVID?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>If you do test positive for COVID with an at-home test or a PCR test, don’t panic. Find a way to confirm your results with a second test while you plan to isolate yourself from anyone else in your household. \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/steps-when-sick.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The CDC has a specific checklist you can follow if you get sick. \u003c/a>Read along for key takeaways and advice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reporting your positive COVID test\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>If you test positive for COVID on a PCR test, someone from the health department may call you as part of their \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/contact-tracing.html#you-are-diagnosed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">contact tracing efforts\u003c/a> to slow the spread of COVID.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, if you test positive for COVID using a home antigen test, the California Department of Public Health says \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Over-The-Counter-Tests-LHJ-Guidance.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">there are certain steps you should take to report your results\u003c/a> when using an over-the-counter test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul class=\"p-rich_text_list p-rich_text_list__bullet\" data-stringify-type=\"unordered-list\" data-indent=\"0\" data-border=\"0\">\n\u003cli data-stringify-indent=\"0\" data-stringify-border=\"0\">Use the instructions on your test to self-report your COVID-positive results.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli data-stringify-indent=\"0\" data-stringify-border=\"0\">Some over-the-counter tests may have automatic reporting, while others require you to report your own results through an app on your phone.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli data-stringify-indent=\"0\" data-stringify-border=\"0\">If your test does not provide electronic reporting and you have health care coverage, you can share your results with a health care provider to receive appropriate medical care.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Kaiser says that if you have a positive home antigen test — whether you're symptomatic or not — you're considered positive for COVID and \u003cem>don't\u003c/em> need to confirm with a PCR test, but you should still report your positive COVID-19 home test. If you're a Kaiser member, you can report your positive test using their \u003ca href=\"https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/SkkECkRozNIYAX4zS9hOx2?domain=healthy.kaiserpermanente.org\">positive COVID-19 home test e-visit\u003c/a> tool.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a journalist, Lagos says she can't help but be \"struck\" by what the lack of a consistent system for self-reporting positive home test results means for public COVID case numbers this winter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're probably undercounting these pretty dramatically at this point,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Talk to your people\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you've tested positive for COVID, it's essential that you let any of your close contacts know that they may have been exposed to the virus. Whether this is through a group text or a phone call, letting anyone you may have come into direct contact with gives others a chance to prepare and get tested themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Madrigal says he began interrogating himself about whom he'd been in contact with — his neighbors, his mother-in-law and his children. \"\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You kind of get in touch with folks, and they immediately want to go get tested,\" he said. \"That's people's very natural reaction.\" \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But when \u003cem>is\u003c/em> the best time for your close contacts to get tested?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The CDC says that someone with COVID-19 can spread the virus starting 48 hours or two days before the person has any symptoms or tests positive. For your fully vaccinated close contacts, it's best if they take their test five to seven days after their initial exposure of coming into contact with you. For anyone unvaccinated, it's important that they get tested right away. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Madrigal says that going back and tracing everyone he came into contact with, and handling those logistics, were some of the most challenging aspects of getting COVID: \"When we say we're 'all in it together' in a positive way ... you're also all in it together in the sense that everyone you've exposed is in it with you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That was tough,\" he admits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901097\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901097\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing scrubs and a face mask and a plastic protector sticks a nose swab into another person's nose.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1706\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1360301966-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Merline Jimene administers a COVID-19 test swab to a person at a testing site located in the international terminal at Los Angeles International Airport amid a surge in omicron variant cases on Dec. 21, 2021. \u003ccite>(Mario Tama/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Isolate from others\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CDC recommends\u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quarantine-isolation.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> isolating yourself from other members of your household\u003c/a> — if possible, within a separate, contained area in your home and away from others — for at least five full days, with Day Zero as the day you first experienced symptoms. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11900296/cdc-recommends-shorter-covid-isolation-and-quarantine-periods\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">This CDC guidance changed from a previous isolation period of 10 days\u003c/a>, and local public health experts encourage you to weigh the risks of breaking isolation earlier than 10 days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's essential to only venture out if you need to seek immediate medical care. If you're experiencing\u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html\"> any of the CDC's emergency warning signs\u003c/a> like trouble breathing, pressure in the chest, or pale, gray, or blue-colored skin, seek medical care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Madrigal says that as soon as his at-home test came back positive, he was on the phone to schedule his PCR test while packing a bag to isolate from his family in a separate apartment. \"We were lucky enough to find a neighbor who had a rental [nearby]\" where he was able to isolate, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Lagos acknowledges she feels \"lucky\" to have had access to paid time off, during which she and her partner could stay home, \"in terms of preventing it from spreading throughout a household, I mean — we have tiny homes in San Francisco,\" she notes. \"Most of us don't \u003cem>have\u003c/em> extra bedrooms or bathrooms.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For that reason, Lagos says that in her personal experience, much of the official advice about isolating with COVID \"is not that practical when you're actually in this situation — particularly with kids involved.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If finding a separate space to wait out isolation or quarantine outside your home isn't possible for you, either, try to designate spaces within your home that reduce the possibility of transmission. That might look like sleeping in another room, using a separate bathroom, wearing masks inside at all times or improving ventilation within your home — for example, by opening your windows. The CDC also recommends avoiding sharing all personal household items — towels, dishes, glassware — with the folks you live with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Think about it this way, recommends Madrigal: Even if you can't isolate in a completely separate space, \"what is the way that I can reduce my exposing the people around me as much as possible?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Monitor your symptoms\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Remember to keep track of your symptoms — even if it means writing them down. If you ever have any of the following symptoms, or any of the other \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html#seek-medical-attention\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">emergency warning signs per the CDC\u003c/a>, call 911 immediately:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Trouble breathing\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Persistent pain or pressure in the chest\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>New confusion\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Inability to wake or stay awake\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Pale, gray, or blue-colored skin, lips, or nail beds, depending on skin tone\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp class=\"tr-paragraph\" data-pm-slice='2 2 [\"paragraph-wrapper\",{}]'>Madrigal says it's essential to keep an eye on your body after your COVID diagnosis: \"If I didn't have these kinds of metrics [like resting heart rate], I might just think it was all in my head.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Any time you go through something traumatic, you go through something significant — you want a support group.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Pendarvis Harshaw, KQED columnist and host of podcast Rightnowish","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11901091\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11901091\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-scaled.jpg\" alt='Several small boxes are stacked next to each other on a counter, each one has the same design and label, which read, \"COVID-19 Antigen Home Test.\"' width=\"2560\" height=\"1706\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/GettyImages-1237588762-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rapid COVID-19 test kits await distribution at Union Station in Los Angeles on Jan. 7, 2022. \u003ccite>(Frederic J. Brown/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Find a support network\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harshaw's own COVID diagnosis came at a time when he and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13901531/lawyers-investigate-death-of-steve-zumbi-gaines-zion-i-mc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a community of fans were grieving after the death of Steve 'Zumbi' Gaines\u003c/a>, the prolific MC of Zion I. Recognizing that his positive result was coming at a particularly tough time, rather than running from that fact, was key for him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Any time you go through something traumatic, you go through something significant — you want a support group ... to survive life, have a support group,\" Harshaw says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several of Harshaw's friends also caught COVID in different circumstances around the same time Harshaw himself was isolating. In this way, having loved ones to turn to and talk about their shared experiences in a group chat transformed Harshaw's isolation time into a source of comfort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When it comes to facing something of this magnitude, make sure you have a friend or two that you can talk to,\" he advises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Don't overlook self-care\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Get plenty of rest, stay hydrated and take over-the-counter medicines like acetaminophen as needed to address any physical discomfort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Harshaw, balancing his own COVID diagnosis and mental health required a careful dance between nourishing his physical and spiritual self-care. “It was the balance of trying to nurture myself,\" he says. \"Like physical nourishment, and make sure I eat soup and drink juice while \u003cem>also\u003c/em> don't lose my head.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once Harshaw had addressed and handled the logistics of child care, he resolved to unplug. For him, this looked like grabbing a book, a puzzle, and an intricate coloring sheet from the library and turning up the jazz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also admits that was the time\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13898520/cat-daddy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> he finally bonded with his cat\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11900815\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11900815 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A bag of oranges in a white knit bag. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/pexels-cottonbro-3737623.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">When it comes to logistics like grocery shopping, reach out to a network of support and find someone who can help. \u003ccite>(Cottonbro/Pexels)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>How do I handle the logistics of a positive test?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Let's face it: A positive COVID result requires a near-immediate halt to your typical day-to-day life as you know it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you first get that positive result, you'll start thinking about all the ways you might be interacting with others, from the care you provide for your family to how you interact with roommates — and, of course, your work and ability to earn money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Handling child care when you have COVID\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because Madrigal and his whole family had to isolate, his kids were out of school for a week — and his partner also had to quarantine \u003cem>with\u003c/em> them. \"My wife had to have a whole bunch of conversations with her work,\" he admits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he adds that child care extended beyond their family unit and included others from a wider circle of support — family, neighbors, friends — who helped them out by bringing over toys for their kids to play with. \"I\u003cspan data-pm-slice='1 1 [\"paragraph-wrapper\",{},\"paragraph\",{\"id\":\"p13-0\"}]'>t was pretty sweet how people kind of came together in our community around,\" says Madrigal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Think about neighbors, friends and extended family members who would be able to step in and support with child care while you're isolating, or even who might be able to pick essential care items like groceries or medicines, if home delivery isn't an option.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Harshaw, who co-parents his young daughter, coordinating child care with her mother after his positive test was crucial. \"I asked if she could take my daughter for a couple more days while I got better,\" he says. \"Hats off to her. She held it down, and I really appreciate that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Groceries and accessing food while self-isolating\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you're isolating, it's essential that you stay home until it's safe for you to be around others — and the CDC recently changed its isolation guidance to span at least a full five days. That makes grabbing the essential supplies you need to isolate difficult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When it came to figuring out what to eat and how to get groceries, Harshaw turned to his networks of support. \"I worked with the neighbor to get a couple of things,\" he says. \"But other than that, I just dug deep into my cabinets.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says having his old emergency earthquake go-bag ready from the start of the pandemic was his go-to for feeding himself while he self-isolated — that, and a bag of frozen only-open-in-case-of-emergency lemons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Find out if your employer can cover your pay while you self-isolate\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Talk to your employer to identify what protections you have in case of a COVID-19-positive diagnosis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The repercussions of not going to work are not equal for all workers. Many hourly workers are not granted the same protections or benefits that salaried workers are. At the end of 2021, California ended its COVID-19 Supplemental Paid Sick Leave (SPSL), which granted workers 80 extra hours of leave if they tested positive for the coronavirus or had to care for a family member.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, exclusion pay is still required for California workers who have to quarantine due to a COVID-19 exposure at your workplace. Through the \u003ca href=\"https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/COVID19Resources/FAQ-Exclusion-Pay-ETS.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Emergency Temporary Standards (ETS)\u003c/a>, Cal/OSHA requires employers to maintain an employee's pay and benefits for any worker who is \"excluded\" from a workplace while they isolate or quarantine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are limitations to this temporary exclusion pay, however. The ETS does not extend to any COVID exposure that wasn't work-related. So if you were exposed outside of work, your employer isn't obligated by the state to pay for lost wages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's also limited to workers, which means the state is not requiring your employer to maintain your pay or benefits if you're caring for a family member — including children.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, you may be eligible for sick leave or other benefits such as disability insurance, paid family leave, or unemployment insurance benefits. Your own city or county also may offer programs to support people who are losing work because of a COVID diagnosis, such as \u003ca href=\"https://oewd.org/employees-impacted-covid-19\">San Francisco's Right to Recover \u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Program that provides $1,285 to reimburse \"or pay reasonable and necessary personal, family, or living expenses\" to any worker who lives in SF and tests positive for COVID,\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">and \"anticipates \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">experiencing financial hardship during their two-week quarantine or isolation\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\" This particular program is offered regardless of a person's immigration or citizenship status. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Skip to: \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11894053/got-covid-19-at-your-job-and-applying-for-workers-comp-in-california-heres-how-it-works\">Got COVID-19 at Your Job and Applying for Workers' Comp in California? Here's How It Works\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'The best way I can describe it is: I can feel where my heart is all the time. And not in, like a cute way.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Alexis Madrigal, co-host of KQED's Forum","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11899398\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11899398\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A gloved blue hands held by a nurse in a blue robe hold a small white COVID-19 testing vial and swab.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1291\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut-800x538.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut-1020x686.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/12/RS52942_GettyImages-1328758598-qut-1536x1033.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A registered nurse stirs a nasal swab in testing solution after administering a COVID-19 test at Sameday Testing on July 14, 2021, in Los Angeles. \u003ccite>(Mario Tama/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>What should people who've just tested positive know?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>As natural as it is, don't panic thinking you've automatically exposed or infected your loved ones in your home, says Madrigal. That's not \"actually how the virus works.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You actually have some leverage to protect the people around you even after you've tested positive and been in the house with them,\" he says. Madrigal also says to remember that, with the proper isolation and protection, keeping your loved ones safe from COVID isn't off the table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For him, another big takeaway he wishes he'd known before getting COVID is the importance of preparing a COVID emergency plan \u003cem>before\u003c/em> you test positive — much like you would have for an earthquake or wildfire — to make your life easier while you prepare to isolate or quarantine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Some things to include in your COVID emergency kit\u003c/strong>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Food and liquids to last up to 10 days\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Extra N95s, KN95s or well-fitting masks\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Fans or other ventilation\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Extra testing supplies\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A designated place to isolate — that could be in a space closed off from roommates, family members or children\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>A phone tree, texting group or go-to list of people who could help you with child care or groceries — it could be a neighbor, friend or family member\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Harshaw says that for him, getting COVID offered a lesson in suppressing the ego: \"\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It's not about self. It's not about how you're perceived by the larger community. It is really about the health: the benefit of us as a people being on one accord.\" \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harshaw also says that isolating and spending a lot of alone time with yourself brings its own challenges — especially if you want to stay glued to the news.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\"It's hard to be with yourself. There are some pretty ugly thoughts in there,\" he says. \"So, having a support group, having hobbies and healthy outlets — and a couple of snacks.\"\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11900490/the-realities-of-getting-covid-from-the-kqed-hosts-whove-been-there","authors":["11357","3243"],"categories":["news_457","news_8"],"tags":["news_29722","news_27350","news_29029","news_27989","news_30461","news_30459","news_30457","news_30295","news_27626","news_30460","news_3112","news_30458"],"featImg":"news_11900814","label":"news"},"news_11822532":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11822532","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11822532","score":null,"sort":[1591189243000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"diversity-among-disease-detectives-key-to-containing-the-coronavirus","title":"Diversity Among Disease Detectives Key to Containing the Coronavirus","publishDate":1591189243,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>At the same time Eric Chan started training to become a contact tracer, he also started tuning in to \u003ca href=\"https://www.skylinktv.us/skylinktv-san-francisco\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chinese-language news\u003c/a> on TV.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wanted to brush up on his Cantonese, especially the medical terms for the pandemic, so it would be easier to talk to people who weren’t comfortable with English, especially those who might assume his call is a scam.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Quite often, just speaking that language directly, instead of having the interpreter on the line, it helps a lot with the communication and the trust,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Normally, Chan works as a financial analyst in the San Francisco Assessor’s Office. Now, he is one of 73 city employees, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821528/in-search-of-20000-covid-19-contact-tracers-california-taps-local-librarians-tax-assessors-city-legal-staff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">including librarians and paralegals\u003c/a>, who have been trained as contact tracers to notify people when they’ve been exposed to the coronavirus and ask them to stay home for two weeks to prevent further spread. The city has focused on recruiting people who speak multiple languages in an effort to reach communities of color that have been \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1964099/first-my-sister-then-her-husband-then-my-niece-latinos-hit-hard-by-covid-19\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">hardest hit\u003c/a> by the virus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://data.sfgov.org/stories/s/w6za-6st8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nearly half the people\u003c/a> who have died from COVID-19 in San Francisco are Asian American. Statewide, Latinos account for \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Race-Ethnicity.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">54% of coronavirus infections\u003c/a> even though they make up 39% of the population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“COVID is a disease that has disproportionately affected certain racial and economic constituencies within our society, and we wanted contact tracers that represent those groups,” said Mike Reid, an infectious disease physician at UCSF who is leading a program to train \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821528/in-search-of-20000-covid-19-contact-tracers-california-taps-local-librarians-tax-assessors-city-legal-staff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">20,000 new contact tracers\u003c/a> across the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Early on, Chan noticed the potential for some things to get lost in translation. The main work of contact tracers is to inform people when they need to quarantine or isolate themselves to stop the chain of transmission of the virus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in Cantonese, the words for quarantine and isolation, are the same word: “Gaak-lei,” which roughly means “separating from others,” Chan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Coverage\" tag=\"coronavirus\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Quarantine is for people who’ve been in close contact with someone who’s sick and are asked to stay home in case they develop symptoms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Isolation is for those who know they’re sick and have to isolate themselves in a separate room within their home to protect their family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chan describes himself as very detail oriented – he normally spends his days in the tax assessor’s office carefully reviewing spreadsheets – and he wanted to get this right. So he called his colleague, Vivian Po, who also speaks Cantonese.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They decided every time they translated each word, they would give the definition, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We're very used to explaining tax code to taxpayers, so our tendency is to go specific,” she said, “to make sure not just to say the terms, but also explain what they are.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s important to find contact tracers who have not only language skills, but who understand cultural customs, says Jon Jacobo with the Latino Task Force for COVID-19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Take the common polite response among Latinos when you ask, “How are you, do you need anything?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The first answer is always, ‘Oh, no, no, I'm good. I don't need anything,’ ” Jacobo says. “But if you pry a little more, you get the real answer, which is, ‘You know, actually, maybe.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is important, he adds, because people may need help getting groceries or medications in order to stay home, or they may need to stay in one of the city-funded hotel rooms if they live in close quarters and can’t adequately isolate themselves from family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The more we can have people that know these sensitivities and can connect with people, the more we're going to get accurate information and accurate data, which helps all of us, because then we can truly begin to track down and mitigate the spread of COVID,” Jacobo says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='medium' align='left' citation=\"Jon Jacobo, Latino Task Force for COVID-19\"]'The more we can have people that know these sensitivities and can connect with people, the more we're going to get accurate information and accurate data, which helps all of us, because then we can truly begin to track down and mitigate the spread of COVID.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California is running public service announcements in English and Spanish that emphasize help is available for people who test positive and anyone they’ve been in close contact with. This is a first step toward getting people to answer the phone when contact tracers call.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of the calls Jazmin Flores makes are to people who only speak Spanish. Flores is usually an administrative assistant at the San Francisco City Attorney’s Office, but she began training and working as a contact tracer after shelter-in-place orders took effect and she was furloughed. She has a lot of experience working at the front desk, with people barging into City Hall who are upset, desperate for help or just lost.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You just never know who’s going to walk in the door, and it’s your job to get information and pacify them, whether they're supposed to be there or not,” Flores says in her slow, soothing voice. “I'm really happy to have those tools to help me in this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people she’s called have been worried about revealing their immigration status and get nervous when she asks things like, “Who's living with you? Where do you live?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Some people might not want to share all of that information,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='medium' align='right' citation=\"Jazmin Flores, contract tracer\"]'You just let them know that this is all confidential, and it's just to help you and to help others and to help try to resolve this situation and stop it from getting worse.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While she never forces anyone to share what they don’t want to share, she reassures them nothing they tell her will go beyond the local public health department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You just let them know that this is all confidential and it's just to help you and to help others and to help try to resolve this situation and stop it from getting worse,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Overall, most people she’s called have been very receptive. So far, San Francisco contact tracers have reached 91% of people they try to call, and program leader Reid says the overwhelming sentiment is positive. In Long Beach, disease control officials estimate \u003ca href=\"https://khn.org/news/hiring-a-diverse-army-to-track-covid-19-amid-reopening/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">fewer than 1%\u003c/a> of those contacted refused to participate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I'm actually quite surprised at how open they can be and how they actually kind of feel like chatting,” Flores says. “I feel like we're just chatting about them and how they're doing and their family.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"San Francisco wants contact tracers who speak multiple languages, to help communities that have been hit hardest by the coronavirus.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1591217464,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":32,"wordCount":1182},"headData":{"title":"Diversity Among Disease Detectives Key to Containing the Coronavirus | KQED","description":"San Francisco wants contact tracers who speak multiple languages, to help communities that have been hit hardest by the coronavirus.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Diversity Among Disease Detectives Key to Containing the Coronavirus","datePublished":"2020-06-03T13:00:43.000Z","dateModified":"2020-06-03T20:51:04.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11822532 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11822532","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/06/03/diversity-among-disease-detectives-key-to-containing-the-coronavirus/","disqusTitle":"Diversity Among Disease Detectives Key to Containing the Coronavirus","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/7c8a6da2-7a96-4290-a334-abcf0127edb7/audio.mp3","path":"/news/11822532/diversity-among-disease-detectives-key-to-containing-the-coronavirus","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>At the same time Eric Chan started training to become a contact tracer, he also started tuning in to \u003ca href=\"https://www.skylinktv.us/skylinktv-san-francisco\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chinese-language news\u003c/a> on TV.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wanted to brush up on his Cantonese, especially the medical terms for the pandemic, so it would be easier to talk to people who weren’t comfortable with English, especially those who might assume his call is a scam.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Quite often, just speaking that language directly, instead of having the interpreter on the line, it helps a lot with the communication and the trust,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Normally, Chan works as a financial analyst in the San Francisco Assessor’s Office. Now, he is one of 73 city employees, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821528/in-search-of-20000-covid-19-contact-tracers-california-taps-local-librarians-tax-assessors-city-legal-staff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">including librarians and paralegals\u003c/a>, who have been trained as contact tracers to notify people when they’ve been exposed to the coronavirus and ask them to stay home for two weeks to prevent further spread. The city has focused on recruiting people who speak multiple languages in an effort to reach communities of color that have been \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1964099/first-my-sister-then-her-husband-then-my-niece-latinos-hit-hard-by-covid-19\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">hardest hit\u003c/a> by the virus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://data.sfgov.org/stories/s/w6za-6st8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nearly half the people\u003c/a> who have died from COVID-19 in San Francisco are Asian American. Statewide, Latinos account for \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Race-Ethnicity.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">54% of coronavirus infections\u003c/a> even though they make up 39% of the population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“COVID is a disease that has disproportionately affected certain racial and economic constituencies within our society, and we wanted contact tracers that represent those groups,” said Mike Reid, an infectious disease physician at UCSF who is leading a program to train \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821528/in-search-of-20000-covid-19-contact-tracers-california-taps-local-librarians-tax-assessors-city-legal-staff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">20,000 new contact tracers\u003c/a> across the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Early on, Chan noticed the potential for some things to get lost in translation. The main work of contact tracers is to inform people when they need to quarantine or isolate themselves to stop the chain of transmission of the virus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in Cantonese, the words for quarantine and isolation, are the same word: “Gaak-lei,” which roughly means “separating from others,” Chan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","tag":"coronavirus"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Quarantine is for people who’ve been in close contact with someone who’s sick and are asked to stay home in case they develop symptoms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Isolation is for those who know they’re sick and have to isolate themselves in a separate room within their home to protect their family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chan describes himself as very detail oriented – he normally spends his days in the tax assessor’s office carefully reviewing spreadsheets – and he wanted to get this right. So he called his colleague, Vivian Po, who also speaks Cantonese.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They decided every time they translated each word, they would give the definition, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We're very used to explaining tax code to taxpayers, so our tendency is to go specific,” she said, “to make sure not just to say the terms, but also explain what they are.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s important to find contact tracers who have not only language skills, but who understand cultural customs, says Jon Jacobo with the Latino Task Force for COVID-19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Take the common polite response among Latinos when you ask, “How are you, do you need anything?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The first answer is always, ‘Oh, no, no, I'm good. I don't need anything,’ ” Jacobo says. “But if you pry a little more, you get the real answer, which is, ‘You know, actually, maybe.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is important, he adds, because people may need help getting groceries or medications in order to stay home, or they may need to stay in one of the city-funded hotel rooms if they live in close quarters and can’t adequately isolate themselves from family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The more we can have people that know these sensitivities and can connect with people, the more we're going to get accurate information and accurate data, which helps all of us, because then we can truly begin to track down and mitigate the spread of COVID,” Jacobo says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'The more we can have people that know these sensitivities and can connect with people, the more we're going to get accurate information and accurate data, which helps all of us, because then we can truly begin to track down and mitigate the spread of COVID.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"left","citation":"Jon Jacobo, Latino Task Force for COVID-19","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California is running public service announcements in English and Spanish that emphasize help is available for people who test positive and anyone they’ve been in close contact with. This is a first step toward getting people to answer the phone when contact tracers call.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of the calls Jazmin Flores makes are to people who only speak Spanish. Flores is usually an administrative assistant at the San Francisco City Attorney’s Office, but she began training and working as a contact tracer after shelter-in-place orders took effect and she was furloughed. She has a lot of experience working at the front desk, with people barging into City Hall who are upset, desperate for help or just lost.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You just never know who’s going to walk in the door, and it’s your job to get information and pacify them, whether they're supposed to be there or not,” Flores says in her slow, soothing voice. “I'm really happy to have those tools to help me in this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people she’s called have been worried about revealing their immigration status and get nervous when she asks things like, “Who's living with you? Where do you live?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Some people might not want to share all of that information,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'You just let them know that this is all confidential, and it's just to help you and to help others and to help try to resolve this situation and stop it from getting worse.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Jazmin Flores, contract tracer","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While she never forces anyone to share what they don’t want to share, she reassures them nothing they tell her will go beyond the local public health department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You just let them know that this is all confidential and it's just to help you and to help others and to help try to resolve this situation and stop it from getting worse,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Overall, most people she’s called have been very receptive. So far, San Francisco contact tracers have reached 91% of people they try to call, and program leader Reid says the overwhelming sentiment is positive. In Long Beach, disease control officials estimate \u003ca href=\"https://khn.org/news/hiring-a-diverse-army-to-track-covid-19-amid-reopening/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">fewer than 1%\u003c/a> of those contacted refused to participate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I'm actually quite surprised at how open they can be and how they actually kind of feel like chatting,” Flores says. “I feel like we're just chatting about them and how they're doing and their family.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11822532/diversity-among-disease-detectives-key-to-containing-the-coronavirus","authors":["3205"],"categories":["news_457","news_8"],"tags":["news_27828","news_27350","news_27504","news_28051","news_20202","news_3112","news_27660","news_25551"],"featImg":"news_11822536","label":"news"},"news_11821528":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11821528","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11821528","score":null,"sort":[1590861719000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"in-search-of-20000-covid-19-contact-tracers-california-taps-local-librarians-tax-assessors-city-legal-staff","title":"In Search of 20,000 COVID-19 Contact Tracers, California Taps Local Librarians, Tax Assessors, City Legal Staff","publishDate":1590861719,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>After more than two months at home, librarian Lisa Fagundes misses managing her sci-fi book collection so much, she feels like she’s in withdrawal, longing to see new books, touch them, smell them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s like a disease,” she says, with a laugh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, while libraries are closed, Fagundes is one of dozens of librarians putting her skills to use as a contact tracer, calling people who have been exposed to the coronavirus and asking them to self-quarantine at home so they don’t spread it further.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Librarians are an obvious choice for the job, says Fagundes, who normally works at the information desk of the San Francisco Main Library. They’re curious, they’re tech savvy and they’re really good at getting people they barely know to open up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because a lot of times, patrons come up to you and they're like, ‘Uhh, I'm looking for a book —’ and they don't really know what they're looking for or they don't know how to describe it,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Lisa Fagundes, San Francisco librarian\"]'Talking about sensitive subjects is a natural thing for librarians. It’s a lot of open-ended questions, trying to get people to feel that you're listening to them and not trying to take advantage or put your own viewpoint on their story.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Or they’re teens afraid to admit out loud that they’re looking for books about sex or queer identity. Fagundes is used to coaxing it out of them in a calm, nonjudgmental way. It’s the same with contact tracing: asking people about their health status and history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Talking about sensitive subjects is a natural thing for librarians,” she says. “It’s a lot of open-ended questions, trying to get people to feel that you're listening to them and not trying to take advantage or put your own viewpoint on their story.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fagundes is part of the first team of contact tracers trained through a new 20-hour virtual academy led by UCSF. California awarded the university an $8.7 million contract this month to expand the academy and train 20,000 new contact tracers throughout the state by July, one of the largest such efforts in the country. Gov.Gavin Newsom has said counties need 15 contact tracers for every 100,000 residents to adequately contain the virus after shelter-in-place orders are lifted. Nationally, experts have estimated the U.S. needs between 100,000 and 300,000 contact tracers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With many people staying home in recent months, counties that haven’t yet built their contact-tracing teams to pandemic levels have generally been able to manage caseloads. Each new person who tests positive for COVID-19 has been in contact with an average of four or five people while infectious — usually family members and neighbors — according to local health officials. But as counties begin allowing businesses to reopen, a person’s average contacts will go up to 40, necessitating a larger team to identify and call them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You have a four- or five-day window to find people and get them isolated, which is what we do instead of treat them because we don't have treatment for COVID,” says George Rutherford, a professor of epidemiology at UCSF who’s been leading the training effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Librarians, Tax Assessors, Paralegals\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new training program takes place over the course of five days and involves lessons on epidemiology and motivational interviewing, and demonstrations of contact tracing phone calls. In addition to librarians, San Francisco has been asking government employees from county tax assessor and city attorneys’ offices to help out, including financial analysts, paralegals and investigators. Some rural counties have also been recruiting sheriff’s deputies for the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The major qualification is being able to talk to people,” Rutherford said. “In other states they love to pick up people who worked as airline reservation agents, because they're used to talking to people all day long and trying to work things out for them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"contact-tracing\"]Megan Elliott is used to having conversations where she has to tell people things they don’t want to hear. She is a manager in the San Francisco Assessor’s Office, where she oversees the valuation of real estate to figure out how much tax to charge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For residential properties, a lot of times it has to do with a property owner who believes that we unfairly valued their new construction project,” she says. “So my job is to communicate to the taxpayers in a way that they can better understand why we do what we do and to help them see the reason and rationale behind that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s the same idea with contact-tracing phone calls — telling people they can’t go to work for the next two weeks because they were in contact with someone who tested positive for COVID-19. Similar to parsing tax code over the phone, and empathizing over how the tax laws sometimes seem unfair, she explains the importance of protecting the community from the virus, or the difference between quarantine (staying home if you've been exposed but aren't symptomatic) and isolation (avoiding family members within your home if you are symptomatic).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators from city attorneys’ offices have been really helpful applying their people-finding skills, says Rutherford from UCSF. Some people who become ill may be reluctant to share information about their close contacts or just don’t know the full names or contact information of people they’ve been with in close quarters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Let’s say you’re on a job site, working construction and you had lunch with a guy, ‘Oh, it’s Bob, he’s a steam fitter,’ ” says Rutherford. “That's the kind of thing that we’re facing, that we get partial locating information.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>City investigators are familiar with databases and electronic gumshoe strategies for finding Bob’s last name and phone number, he explains, so he can be notified and get tested.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>County-by-County Effort\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The program’s goal is to train contact tracers to serve all 58 counties in California, but the state is leaving it up to each county to decide how to roll out their own programs and what kinds of support services they will offer to people asked to self-quarantine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Francisco, for example, when people who may be infectious are asked to stay home, contact tracers give them referrals to get tested and offer free cleaning supplies and help with having groceries and medications delivered. If they can’t isolate themselves safely from other family members in their home – a common occurrence in San Francisco where the high cost of housing often forces multiple family members to live together in cramped apartments – they have the option of staying in a city-funded hotel room.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"George Rutherford, UCSF professor of epidemiology\"]'You have a four- or five-day window to find people and get them isolated, which is what we do instead of treat them because we don't have treatment for COVID.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco is also\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821282/san-francisco-to-replace-wages-for-low-income-undocumented-workers-with-covid-19\"> launching a program\u003c/a> to help replace two weeks of lost income, up to $1,200, for people who test positive and don't have paid sick leave or cannot access unemployment insurance benefits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“At a societal level, it's a bargain to not have X-more coronavirus cases for the cost of a week or two of wages,” says Rutherford. “It’s a pretty good deal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What other counties offer will depend on what they have the funding, and the will, to provide. Most counties have barely begun ramping up their corps of contact tracers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>South of San Francisco, in Santa Clara County, where the first COVID-19 cases in the U.S. were identified, health officials have struggled to recruit enough librarians and other county employees to become contact tracers and are now asking for 800 volunteers from the community to meet their goal of building a 1,000-person team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other counties may also need to turn to volunteers, especially since it’s unclear what will happen when government offices eventually resume full operations. In San Francisco, some city attorney office staff have been told they will go back to their regular jobs part time and continue contact tracing work, but they don’t know when that might be. Communication from the city has been “muddled,” says Fagundes, the San Francisco librarian, who’s been doing four four-hour contact tracing shifts per week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s something that I feel like I could do for the rest of the year, if needed, then when the library starts ramping up, I could do both,” she says. “I think that the library will not be ramping up to full service anytime soon, because it's not an essential service – as much as we may disagree.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As California begins one of the most ambitious contact-tracing training programs in the country, it's turning first to city and county government employees for help.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1619480120,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":32,"wordCount":1584},"headData":{"title":"In Search of 20,000 COVID-19 Contact Tracers, California Taps Local Librarians, Tax Assessors, City Legal Staff | KQED","description":"As California begins one of the most ambitious contact-tracing training programs in the country, it's turning first to city and county government employees for help.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"In Search of 20,000 COVID-19 Contact Tracers, California Taps Local Librarians, Tax Assessors, City Legal Staff","datePublished":"2020-05-30T18:01:59.000Z","dateModified":"2021-04-26T23:35:20.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11821528 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11821528","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/05/30/in-search-of-20000-covid-19-contact-tracers-california-taps-local-librarians-tax-assessors-city-legal-staff/","disqusTitle":"In Search of 20,000 COVID-19 Contact Tracers, California Taps Local Librarians, Tax Assessors, City Legal Staff","path":"/news/11821528/in-search-of-20000-covid-19-contact-tracers-california-taps-local-librarians-tax-assessors-city-legal-staff","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>After more than two months at home, librarian Lisa Fagundes misses managing her sci-fi book collection so much, she feels like she’s in withdrawal, longing to see new books, touch them, smell them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s like a disease,” she says, with a laugh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, while libraries are closed, Fagundes is one of dozens of librarians putting her skills to use as a contact tracer, calling people who have been exposed to the coronavirus and asking them to self-quarantine at home so they don’t spread it further.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Librarians are an obvious choice for the job, says Fagundes, who normally works at the information desk of the San Francisco Main Library. They’re curious, they’re tech savvy and they’re really good at getting people they barely know to open up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because a lot of times, patrons come up to you and they're like, ‘Uhh, I'm looking for a book —’ and they don't really know what they're looking for or they don't know how to describe it,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Talking about sensitive subjects is a natural thing for librarians. It’s a lot of open-ended questions, trying to get people to feel that you're listening to them and not trying to take advantage or put your own viewpoint on their story.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Lisa Fagundes, San Francisco librarian","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Or they’re teens afraid to admit out loud that they’re looking for books about sex or queer identity. Fagundes is used to coaxing it out of them in a calm, nonjudgmental way. It’s the same with contact tracing: asking people about their health status and history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Talking about sensitive subjects is a natural thing for librarians,” she says. “It’s a lot of open-ended questions, trying to get people to feel that you're listening to them and not trying to take advantage or put your own viewpoint on their story.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fagundes is part of the first team of contact tracers trained through a new 20-hour virtual academy led by UCSF. California awarded the university an $8.7 million contract this month to expand the academy and train 20,000 new contact tracers throughout the state by July, one of the largest such efforts in the country. Gov.Gavin Newsom has said counties need 15 contact tracers for every 100,000 residents to adequately contain the virus after shelter-in-place orders are lifted. Nationally, experts have estimated the U.S. needs between 100,000 and 300,000 contact tracers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With many people staying home in recent months, counties that haven’t yet built their contact-tracing teams to pandemic levels have generally been able to manage caseloads. Each new person who tests positive for COVID-19 has been in contact with an average of four or five people while infectious — usually family members and neighbors — according to local health officials. But as counties begin allowing businesses to reopen, a person’s average contacts will go up to 40, necessitating a larger team to identify and call them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You have a four- or five-day window to find people and get them isolated, which is what we do instead of treat them because we don't have treatment for COVID,” says George Rutherford, a professor of epidemiology at UCSF who’s been leading the training effort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Librarians, Tax Assessors, Paralegals\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new training program takes place over the course of five days and involves lessons on epidemiology and motivational interviewing, and demonstrations of contact tracing phone calls. In addition to librarians, San Francisco has been asking government employees from county tax assessor and city attorneys’ offices to help out, including financial analysts, paralegals and investigators. Some rural counties have also been recruiting sheriff’s deputies for the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The major qualification is being able to talk to people,” Rutherford said. “In other states they love to pick up people who worked as airline reservation agents, because they're used to talking to people all day long and trying to work things out for them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"contact-tracing"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Megan Elliott is used to having conversations where she has to tell people things they don’t want to hear. She is a manager in the San Francisco Assessor’s Office, where she oversees the valuation of real estate to figure out how much tax to charge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For residential properties, a lot of times it has to do with a property owner who believes that we unfairly valued their new construction project,” she says. “So my job is to communicate to the taxpayers in a way that they can better understand why we do what we do and to help them see the reason and rationale behind that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s the same idea with contact-tracing phone calls — telling people they can’t go to work for the next two weeks because they were in contact with someone who tested positive for COVID-19. Similar to parsing tax code over the phone, and empathizing over how the tax laws sometimes seem unfair, she explains the importance of protecting the community from the virus, or the difference between quarantine (staying home if you've been exposed but aren't symptomatic) and isolation (avoiding family members within your home if you are symptomatic).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators from city attorneys’ offices have been really helpful applying their people-finding skills, says Rutherford from UCSF. Some people who become ill may be reluctant to share information about their close contacts or just don’t know the full names or contact information of people they’ve been with in close quarters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Let’s say you’re on a job site, working construction and you had lunch with a guy, ‘Oh, it’s Bob, he’s a steam fitter,’ ” says Rutherford. “That's the kind of thing that we’re facing, that we get partial locating information.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>City investigators are familiar with databases and electronic gumshoe strategies for finding Bob’s last name and phone number, he explains, so he can be notified and get tested.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>County-by-County Effort\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The program’s goal is to train contact tracers to serve all 58 counties in California, but the state is leaving it up to each county to decide how to roll out their own programs and what kinds of support services they will offer to people asked to self-quarantine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Francisco, for example, when people who may be infectious are asked to stay home, contact tracers give them referrals to get tested and offer free cleaning supplies and help with having groceries and medications delivered. If they can’t isolate themselves safely from other family members in their home – a common occurrence in San Francisco where the high cost of housing often forces multiple family members to live together in cramped apartments – they have the option of staying in a city-funded hotel room.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'You have a four- or five-day window to find people and get them isolated, which is what we do instead of treat them because we don't have treatment for COVID.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"George Rutherford, UCSF professor of epidemiology","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco is also\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821282/san-francisco-to-replace-wages-for-low-income-undocumented-workers-with-covid-19\"> launching a program\u003c/a> to help replace two weeks of lost income, up to $1,200, for people who test positive and don't have paid sick leave or cannot access unemployment insurance benefits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“At a societal level, it's a bargain to not have X-more coronavirus cases for the cost of a week or two of wages,” says Rutherford. “It’s a pretty good deal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What other counties offer will depend on what they have the funding, and the will, to provide. Most counties have barely begun ramping up their corps of contact tracers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>South of San Francisco, in Santa Clara County, where the first COVID-19 cases in the U.S. were identified, health officials have struggled to recruit enough librarians and other county employees to become contact tracers and are now asking for 800 volunteers from the community to meet their goal of building a 1,000-person team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other counties may also need to turn to volunteers, especially since it’s unclear what will happen when government offices eventually resume full operations. In San Francisco, some city attorney office staff have been told they will go back to their regular jobs part time and continue contact tracing work, but they don’t know when that might be. Communication from the city has been “muddled,” says Fagundes, the San Francisco librarian, who’s been doing four four-hour contact tracing shifts per week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s something that I feel like I could do for the rest of the year, if needed, then when the library starts ramping up, I could do both,” she says. “I think that the library will not be ramping up to full service anytime soon, because it's not an essential service – as much as we may disagree.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11821528/in-search-of-20000-covid-19-contact-tracers-california-taps-local-librarians-tax-assessors-city-legal-staff","authors":["3205"],"categories":["news_457","news_8"],"tags":["news_27828","news_27350","news_27504","news_3112","news_28027","news_25551","news_28028"],"featImg":"news_11821536","label":"news"},"news_11812835":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11812835","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11812835","score":null,"sort":[1587225644000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"covid-19-diaries-marin-countys-top-doctor-shares-his-isolation-experience","title":"COVID-19 Diaries: Marin County's Top Doctor Shares His Isolation Experience","publishDate":1587225644,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report Magazine | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":26731,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Dr. Matt Willis is the public health officer for Marin County. He was leading the county’s response to the spread of the coronavirus — until he found out he’d contracted COVID-19 in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He announced his positive test result via \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2OvRR_ejzI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">video on March 23\u003c/a>. “I’m here on home quarantine as Marin’s 39th confirmed case,” he said, urging others to follow stay-at-home orders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I didn't necessarily think that I'd be such an early example of the fact that this is in our community,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Willis added he was “frustrated to be sidelined at this important time,” but that after recovering, “I should be more immune and can be more confident to stay active as our local incidents increase.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While in home isolation, Dr. Willis kept an audio diary. Below are excerpted pieces of his experience:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>March 30\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm at home now on day nine of my quarantine for COVID-19. My symptoms have not improved all that much. In fact, the last couple of days [were] slightly worse in terms of the respiratory symptoms. I had a chest x-ray yesterday, which was normal — which is reassuring. I'm relatively healthy and I'm doing pretty well. But I can imagine just from my experience over the last nine days that if I were more frail or older, it may not go as well. My hope is that I'll be able to get back into the game before we see any serious surges and hopefully with some immunity to boot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>March 31\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm seeing only my bedroom and the upstairs bathroom. This has been where I've lived for the past 10 days since my quarantine started. My wife is downstairs with the kids and she brings meals. One of the biggest differences is that I am alone in our room and haven't touched my wife or kids, or really spent any real time together in 10 days — even though we're in the same house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At my bedside, I have a thermometer and a pulse oximeter, which fits over my fingertip and measures my heart rate and oxygen levels in my blood. There's a range of different drinks to stay hydrated and a bowl of soup made by my friend. The support of our friends and neighbors has been incredible and has made this a lot easier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Matt Willis, the public health officer for Marin County\"]'One of the hardest things has been the uncertainty of this whole process, in terms of my own course.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Physically, I'm most surprised by how long this bug has lasted. Everyone has a different experience. For me, COVID-19 has mainly been 10 days in bed with low grade fevers, muscle aches, extreme fatigue and persistent chest tightness and a cough. I do feel I have a bit more energy today. I get slightly out of breath when I walk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's been hard to step away from the public health response, from focusing on the whole population to just my place here at home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think, like a lot of people, I'm working on being patient and giving this the same time it needs to run its course without doing too much damage. And today I'm seeing signs that things are getting better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>April 3\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm seeing my bedroom walls still now for the 14th straight day. Outside the windows here, my sons [are] playing on the trampoline and doing tricks, which is a highlight for the day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the hardest things has been the uncertainty of this whole process, in terms of my own course. I haven't needed to be hospitalized. I prefer to be at home. And even as a physician, not knowing the steps I need to be taking at this point to prevent that from occurring is humbling. There is no treatment. Just resting and waiting is hard and a little bit scary when I see colleagues who have ended up on ventilators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11812845\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11812845\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515-800x543.jpg\" alt=\"Dr. Matt Willis, right, and his family after Willis recovered from COVID-19. From left to right: daughter Lily, son Luke, wife Heather. Bottom: son Basil.\" width=\"800\" height=\"543\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515-800x543.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515-160x109.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515-1020x692.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515.jpg 1675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dr. Matt Willis, right, and his family after Willis recovered from COVID-19. From left to right: daughter Lily, son Luke, wife Heather. Bottom: son Basil.\u003cspan style=\"color: #2b2b2b;font-size: 16px\"> \u003c/span> \u003ccite>(Courtesy Matt Willis)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>April 15\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm seeing a lot more today than I have in the past three weeks. [I] finally transitioned out of isolation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The biggest change is that I'm seeing my family at close range — less than six feet and without masks, and we're able to touch and and share meals and really just be together in the same space. I got to go downstairs and join my kids for breakfast [and] eat with them at the table. That was really the best moment. Something that was an everyday thing felt magical.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Dr. Willis has now returned to leading Marin County's Public Health Department.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Dr. Matt Willis kept an audio diary while in home isolation. 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He was leading the county’s response to the spread of the coronavirus — until he found out he’d contracted COVID-19 in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He announced his positive test result via \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2OvRR_ejzI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">video on March 23\u003c/a>. “I’m here on home quarantine as Marin’s 39th confirmed case,” he said, urging others to follow stay-at-home orders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I didn't necessarily think that I'd be such an early example of the fact that this is in our community,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Willis added he was “frustrated to be sidelined at this important time,” but that after recovering, “I should be more immune and can be more confident to stay active as our local incidents increase.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While in home isolation, Dr. Willis kept an audio diary. 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My hope is that I'll be able to get back into the game before we see any serious surges and hopefully with some immunity to boot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>March 31\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm seeing only my bedroom and the upstairs bathroom. This has been where I've lived for the past 10 days since my quarantine started. My wife is downstairs with the kids and she brings meals. One of the biggest differences is that I am alone in our room and haven't touched my wife or kids, or really spent any real time together in 10 days — even though we're in the same house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At my bedside, I have a thermometer and a pulse oximeter, which fits over my fingertip and measures my heart rate and oxygen levels in my blood. There's a range of different drinks to stay hydrated and a bowl of soup made by my friend. The support of our friends and neighbors has been incredible and has made this a lot easier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'One of the hardest things has been the uncertainty of this whole process, in terms of my own course.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Matt Willis, the public health officer for Marin County","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Physically, I'm most surprised by how long this bug has lasted. Everyone has a different experience. For me, COVID-19 has mainly been 10 days in bed with low grade fevers, muscle aches, extreme fatigue and persistent chest tightness and a cough. I do feel I have a bit more energy today. I get slightly out of breath when I walk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's been hard to step away from the public health response, from focusing on the whole population to just my place here at home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think, like a lot of people, I'm working on being patient and giving this the same time it needs to run its course without doing too much damage. And today I'm seeing signs that things are getting better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>April 3\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm seeing my bedroom walls still now for the 14th straight day. Outside the windows here, my sons [are] playing on the trampoline and doing tricks, which is a highlight for the day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the hardest things has been the uncertainty of this whole process, in terms of my own course. I haven't needed to be hospitalized. I prefer to be at home. And even as a physician, not knowing the steps I need to be taking at this point to prevent that from occurring is humbling. There is no treatment. Just resting and waiting is hard and a little bit scary when I see colleagues who have ended up on ventilators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11812845\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11812845\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515-800x543.jpg\" alt=\"Dr. Matt Willis, right, and his family after Willis recovered from COVID-19. From left to right: daughter Lily, son Luke, wife Heather. Bottom: son Basil.\" width=\"800\" height=\"543\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515-800x543.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515-160x109.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515-1020x692.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS42821_Willis-fam2-qut-e1587146054515.jpg 1675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dr. Matt Willis, right, and his family after Willis recovered from COVID-19. From left to right: daughter Lily, son Luke, wife Heather. Bottom: son Basil.\u003cspan style=\"color: #2b2b2b;font-size: 16px\"> \u003c/span> \u003ccite>(Courtesy Matt Willis)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>April 15\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm seeing a lot more today than I have in the past three weeks. [I] finally transitioned out of isolation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The biggest change is that I'm seeing my family at close range — less than six feet and without masks, and we're able to touch and and share meals and really just be together in the same space. I got to go downstairs and join my kids for breakfast [and] eat with them at the table. That was really the best moment. Something that was an everyday thing felt magical.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Dr. Willis has now returned to leading Marin County's Public Health Department.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11812835/covid-19-diaries-marin-countys-top-doctor-shares-his-isolation-experience","authors":["8648"],"programs":["news_26731"],"categories":["news_457","news_8","news_356"],"tags":["news_27504","news_3112","news_27013"],"featImg":"news_11812884","label":"news_26731"},"news_77127":{"type":"posts","id":"news_77127","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"77127","score":null,"sort":[1348871760000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"amnesty-international-slams-calif-prisons-isolation-cells","title":"Amnesty International Slams Calif. Prisons' Isolation Cells","publishDate":1348871760,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>The global human rights group Amnesty International is calling on California to use fewer isolation units in its prison system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR51/060/2012/en/3af9a573-df33-4d9b-bfdb-5ef393df2b24/amr510602012en.pdf\">study\u003c/a> released Thursday, the human rights group called these units \"cruel, degrading and inhumane.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_77131\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/unit-of-pbshu-prison-Michael-Montgomery2.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-77131\" title=\"unit of pbshu prison Michael Montgomery\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/unit-of-pbshu-prison-Michael-Montgomery2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Montgomery/KQED\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Corrections officials isolate inmates they say are the “worst of the worst”--those who have committed violent crimes in prison or are deemed a member or associate of a prison gang. These inmates live in small cells 22-and-a-half hours a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the exercise yards are inhumane, said Amnesty International’s Angela Wright, who toured the Security Housing Units at Pelican Bay State Prison. \"They have high walls,\" she told KPCC's Julie Small. \"There’s absolutely no view. There’s absolutely no equipment in them. They’re covered with a mesh across the top so that there’s even restricted access to sunlight.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report found that 500 of the inmates living in isolation at Pelican Bay have been there for a decade or more, and 78 of them for 20 years. Amnesty International says California should reserve isolation for only the most extreme behavior and for only short periods of time.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/03/14/anatomy-of-a-prison-policy-document-on-new-isolation-rules-annotated/\">Anatomy of a Prison Policy: Document on New Isolation Rules Annotated \u003c/a>\u003c/strong>(March, 2012)\u003c/p>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The use of isolation units has survived many court challenges, but California’s Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation is about to revise its policy, Undersecretary of Operations Terri McDonald told Small. She said inmates will be able to earn their way to a less restrictive environment, but not for another three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"While people may think it needs to go faster, we need to make sure our new policy isn’t endangering the orderly operation of our institutions.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McDonald said the department will also refine its criteria for who gets sent to isolation units. She expects Corrections to release full details of the new policy this month.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1349117487,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":11,"wordCount":327},"headData":{"title":"Amnesty International Slams Calif. 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Prisons' Isolation Cells","path":"/news/77127/amnesty-international-slams-calif-prisons-isolation-cells","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The global human rights group Amnesty International is calling on California to use fewer isolation units in its prison system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR51/060/2012/en/3af9a573-df33-4d9b-bfdb-5ef393df2b24/amr510602012en.pdf\">study\u003c/a> released Thursday, the human rights group called these units \"cruel, degrading and inhumane.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_77131\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/unit-of-pbshu-prison-Michael-Montgomery2.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-77131\" title=\"unit of pbshu prison Michael Montgomery\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/unit-of-pbshu-prison-Michael-Montgomery2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Montgomery/KQED\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Corrections officials isolate inmates they say are the “worst of the worst”--those who have committed violent crimes in prison or are deemed a member or associate of a prison gang. These inmates live in small cells 22-and-a-half hours a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the exercise yards are inhumane, said Amnesty International’s Angela Wright, who toured the Security Housing Units at Pelican Bay State Prison. \"They have high walls,\" she told KPCC's Julie Small. \"There’s absolutely no view. There’s absolutely no equipment in them. They’re covered with a mesh across the top so that there’s even restricted access to sunlight.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report found that 500 of the inmates living in isolation at Pelican Bay have been there for a decade or more, and 78 of them for 20 years. Amnesty International says California should reserve isolation for only the most extreme behavior and for only short periods of time.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/03/14/anatomy-of-a-prison-policy-document-on-new-isolation-rules-annotated/\">Anatomy of a Prison Policy: Document on New Isolation Rules Annotated \u003c/a>\u003c/strong>(March, 2012)\u003c/p>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The use of isolation units has survived many court challenges, but California’s Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation is about to revise its policy, Undersecretary of Operations Terri McDonald told Small. She said inmates will be able to earn their way to a less restrictive environment, but not for another three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"While people may think it needs to go faster, we need to make sure our new policy isn’t endangering the orderly operation of our institutions.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McDonald said the department will also refine its criteria for who gets sent to isolation units. She expects Corrections to release full details of the new policy this month.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/77127/amnesty-international-slams-calif-prisons-isolation-cells","authors":["1367"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_3218","news_3215","news_1628","news_616","news_3112","news_3217","news_3216","news_1471","news_3113"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_75987":{"type":"posts","id":"news_75987","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"75987","score":null,"sort":[1347643686000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"advocacy-groups-wary-of-new-plan-for-prison-isolation-units","title":"Advocacy Groups Wary of New Plan for Prison Isolation Units","publishDate":1347643686,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>By Michael Montgomery, \u003ca href=\"http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/advocacy-groups-wary-new-plan-prison-isolation-units-17966\">California Watch\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State corrections officials are moving forward with a plan for handling prison gangs and other violent groups, including changing rules that have kept some inmates locked in special isolation units for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_75990\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/unit-of-pbshu-prison-Michael-Montgomery.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-75990\" title=\"unit of pbshu prison Michael Montgomery\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/09/unit-of-pbshu-prison-Michael-Montgomery.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A unit of cells in the Security Housing Unit at Pelican Bay State prison. Photo: Michael Montgomery/KQED\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But the initiative is raising concern among prisoner rights advocates and some experts who worry that it will do little to improve stark conditions or cut the backlog of inmates awaiting placement into the units.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s nothing I can see in this policy that will change the flow of inmates into these very expensive facilities,” said David Ward, a retired University of Minnesota sociologist who served on an influential 2007 expert panel appointed by the state to study how California manages prison gangs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At issue are California’s four Security Housing Units, which are designed to isolate the state’s most dangerous inmates, including those connected to violent prison gangs. The units routinely have been denounced as inhumane by civil rights groups and were the focus of widespread hunger strikes last year.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Early next month, the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation will begin modifying operations in the special units under a plan that has been in development for more than a year. The department has asserted that nearly all 3,000 inmates being held in the facilities – at Pelican Bay State Prison, California State Prison Corcoran, the California Correctional Institution in Tehachapi and California State Prison Sacramento – are active in prison gangs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We've had years of violence in our facilities and in the community that have been driven by prison gangs,\" said Terri McDonald, the department's undersecretary of operations. \"We're going to implement this policy in a thoughtful, measured way to ensure institutional and community security.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Formal changes to state regulations could take several years, she said. In the meantime, the department is implementing the policy on a pilot basis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the plan, inmates are eligible to work their way out of the special units in three to four years if they complete special programs alongside prisoners from rival groups and do not engage in gang “behavior or activities.” McDonald said inmates will not be required to divulge inside information about the gangs in order to earn transfers out of the units, a controversial practice known as “debriefing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other changes include new criteria to determine who can be sent to the units.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under current rules, an inmate is automatically placed in a Security Housing Unit if he is identified as a member or associate of one of seven prison gangs. According to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/426284-stg-draft-policy-3-1-12.html\" target=\"_blank\">policy draft\u003c/a> released by the corrections department in March, prison gang associates would be sent to isolation units only if they were “engaged in serious criminal gang behavior or a pattern of violent behavior.” The department also would target dangerous members of any group considered a threat to prison security, including street gangs and extremist groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The changes will give prison staff more flexibility in dealing with a range of “security threat groups,” according to an Aug. 30 corrections department \u003ca href=\"https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/426259-security-threat-group-notice-from-cdcr.html\" target=\"_blank\">notice\u003c/a> sent to the California Correctional Peace Officers Association, the powerful union representing prison guards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new policies will put California more closely in line with “recognized national standards and strategies,” staving off the “inevitable litigation and court mandated changes the State would face by remaining exclusively reliant on the current … system,” according to the document.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But revisions in a June 29 corrections \u003ca href=\"https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/426255-stg-policy-7-0.html\" target=\"_blank\">document\u003c/a> obtained by \u003ca href=\"http://californiawatch.org\" target=\"_blank\">California Watch\u003c/a>, The Bay Citizen's sister site, suggest that officials are moving away from the narrower focus on specific criminal or violent acts. Rather, they appear to be reviving controversial guidelines that have allowed authorities to send inmates to the special units for violations such as gang-related tattoos and drawings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The updated version of the policy relies on a number of factors to determine whether an inmate already identified as an associate of a security threat group would be placed in isolation – roughly two-thirds of the inmates currently in the special units are classified as associates. In addition to violent acts such as murder and assault, prison officials would consider an inmate’s disciplinary record, including:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Security threat group-related tattoos and/or body markings\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Clothing worn “with the intent to intimidate, promote membership or depict affiliation in a security threat group”\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The leading or incitement of a disturbance, riot or strike\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Possession of artwork showing security threat group symbols\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Use of hand signs, gestures, handshakes and slogans that specifically relate to a security threat group\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Advocacy groups have long complained that the evidence used by the corrections department, like tattoos and drawings, often is vague and inaccurate. They also say the process does not always identify men involved in violent or illegal acts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The department's approach continues to be guilt by association,\" said Don Specter, director of the Berkeley-based Prison Law Office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But McDonald said the guidelines are a useful tool in identifying high-risk inmates active in violent gangs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When you put a gang tattoo on your body, you are saying to the inmate community, 'I'm a member of this gang; I represent the values of this gang.' It's a purposeful act,\" she said. \"You're propagating gang behavior in the prisons, and you're creating a risk to the institution and the community.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, McDonald said she expects some inmates now being held in the special units could qualify for transfer under the new policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A special committee already has begun to review the case files of nearly every inmate at Pelican Bay’s Security Housing Unit using the department's new gang-related disciplinary criteria. The first reviews could be finished next month, after officials complete a visit to Pelican Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I believe there will be inmates who are reviewed in the case-by-case reviews … who, based on their willingness not to be engaged in gang behavior, will be released out to a general-population prison setting,” McDonald said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said that initially, the reviews will focus on inmates who have been held in the special units the longest. According to department data released last year, some 500 prisoners have been locked in isolation for more than a decade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Charles Carbone, a prominent prisoner rights attorney, said the new policy lacks credibility, and it would be difficult for the department to persuade inmates to participate in the programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The promised reforms are a power grab,” he said. “They give the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation more authority and power to track more prisoners for gang activity and to place, ultimately, more in supermax prison settings. This is not a scaling back of supermax prisons as is being done in other states.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, lawyers for the Center for Constitutional Rights filed a lawsuit on behalf of hundreds of Pelican Bay inmates who have served more than 10 years in the prison’s Security Housing Unit, claiming their prolonged isolation in windowless cells violated due process and amounted to cruel and unusual punishment. A federal judge has scheduled a case management conference for December.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1384819274,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":28,"wordCount":1242},"headData":{"title":"Advocacy Groups Wary of New Plan for Prison Isolation Units | KQED","description":"By Michael Montgomery, California Watch State corrections officials are moving forward with a plan for handling prison gangs and other violent groups, including changing rules that have kept some inmates locked in special isolation units for decades. 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Photo: Michael Montgomery/KQED\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But the initiative is raising concern among prisoner rights advocates and some experts who worry that it will do little to improve stark conditions or cut the backlog of inmates awaiting placement into the units.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s nothing I can see in this policy that will change the flow of inmates into these very expensive facilities,” said David Ward, a retired University of Minnesota sociologist who served on an influential 2007 expert panel appointed by the state to study how California manages prison gangs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At issue are California’s four Security Housing Units, which are designed to isolate the state’s most dangerous inmates, including those connected to violent prison gangs. The units routinely have been denounced as inhumane by civil rights groups and were the focus of widespread hunger strikes last year.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Early next month, the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation will begin modifying operations in the special units under a plan that has been in development for more than a year. The department has asserted that nearly all 3,000 inmates being held in the facilities – at Pelican Bay State Prison, California State Prison Corcoran, the California Correctional Institution in Tehachapi and California State Prison Sacramento – are active in prison gangs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We've had years of violence in our facilities and in the community that have been driven by prison gangs,\" said Terri McDonald, the department's undersecretary of operations. \"We're going to implement this policy in a thoughtful, measured way to ensure institutional and community security.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Formal changes to state regulations could take several years, she said. In the meantime, the department is implementing the policy on a pilot basis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the plan, inmates are eligible to work their way out of the special units in three to four years if they complete special programs alongside prisoners from rival groups and do not engage in gang “behavior or activities.” McDonald said inmates will not be required to divulge inside information about the gangs in order to earn transfers out of the units, a controversial practice known as “debriefing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other changes include new criteria to determine who can be sent to the units.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under current rules, an inmate is automatically placed in a Security Housing Unit if he is identified as a member or associate of one of seven prison gangs. According to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/426284-stg-draft-policy-3-1-12.html\" target=\"_blank\">policy draft\u003c/a> released by the corrections department in March, prison gang associates would be sent to isolation units only if they were “engaged in serious criminal gang behavior or a pattern of violent behavior.” The department also would target dangerous members of any group considered a threat to prison security, including street gangs and extremist groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The changes will give prison staff more flexibility in dealing with a range of “security threat groups,” according to an Aug. 30 corrections department \u003ca href=\"https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/426259-security-threat-group-notice-from-cdcr.html\" target=\"_blank\">notice\u003c/a> sent to the California Correctional Peace Officers Association, the powerful union representing prison guards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new policies will put California more closely in line with “recognized national standards and strategies,” staving off the “inevitable litigation and court mandated changes the State would face by remaining exclusively reliant on the current … system,” according to the document.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But revisions in a June 29 corrections \u003ca href=\"https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/426255-stg-policy-7-0.html\" target=\"_blank\">document\u003c/a> obtained by \u003ca href=\"http://californiawatch.org\" target=\"_blank\">California Watch\u003c/a>, The Bay Citizen's sister site, suggest that officials are moving away from the narrower focus on specific criminal or violent acts. Rather, they appear to be reviving controversial guidelines that have allowed authorities to send inmates to the special units for violations such as gang-related tattoos and drawings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The updated version of the policy relies on a number of factors to determine whether an inmate already identified as an associate of a security threat group would be placed in isolation – roughly two-thirds of the inmates currently in the special units are classified as associates. In addition to violent acts such as murder and assault, prison officials would consider an inmate’s disciplinary record, including:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Security threat group-related tattoos and/or body markings\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Clothing worn “with the intent to intimidate, promote membership or depict affiliation in a security threat group”\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The leading or incitement of a disturbance, riot or strike\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Possession of artwork showing security threat group symbols\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Use of hand signs, gestures, handshakes and slogans that specifically relate to a security threat group\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Advocacy groups have long complained that the evidence used by the corrections department, like tattoos and drawings, often is vague and inaccurate. They also say the process does not always identify men involved in violent or illegal acts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The department's approach continues to be guilt by association,\" said Don Specter, director of the Berkeley-based Prison Law Office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But McDonald said the guidelines are a useful tool in identifying high-risk inmates active in violent gangs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When you put a gang tattoo on your body, you are saying to the inmate community, 'I'm a member of this gang; I represent the values of this gang.' It's a purposeful act,\" she said. \"You're propagating gang behavior in the prisons, and you're creating a risk to the institution and the community.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, McDonald said she expects some inmates now being held in the special units could qualify for transfer under the new policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A special committee already has begun to review the case files of nearly every inmate at Pelican Bay’s Security Housing Unit using the department's new gang-related disciplinary criteria. The first reviews could be finished next month, after officials complete a visit to Pelican Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I believe there will be inmates who are reviewed in the case-by-case reviews … who, based on their willingness not to be engaged in gang behavior, will be released out to a general-population prison setting,” McDonald said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said that initially, the reviews will focus on inmates who have been held in the special units the longest. 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This is not a scaling back of supermax prisons as is being done in other states.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, lawyers for the Center for Constitutional Rights filed a lawsuit on behalf of hundreds of Pelican Bay inmates who have served more than 10 years in the prison’s Security Housing Unit, claiming their prolonged isolation in windowless cells violated due process and amounted to cruel and unusual punishment. 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