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Fiore has received two awards for his work in new media from the National Cartoonists Society (2001, 2002), and in 2006 received The James Madison Freedom of Information Award from The Society of Professional Journalists.","avatar":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fc4e2a612b15b67bad0c6f0e1db4ca9b?s=600&d=blank&r=g","twitter":"MarkFiore","facebook":null,"instagram":"https://www.instagram.com/markfiore/?hl=en","linkedin":null,"sites":[{"site":"arts","roles":["contributor"]},{"site":"news","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"futureofyou","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"science","roles":["editor"]}],"headData":{"title":"Mark Fiore | KQED","description":"KQED News Cartoonist","ogImgSrc":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fc4e2a612b15b67bad0c6f0e1db4ca9b?s=600&d=blank&r=g","twImgSrc":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fc4e2a612b15b67bad0c6f0e1db4ca9b?s=600&d=blank&r=g"},"isLoading":false,"link":"/author/markfiore"}},"breakingNewsReducer":{},"campaignFinanceReducer":{},"firebase":{"requesting":{},"requested":{},"timestamps":{},"data":{},"ordered":{},"auth":{"isLoaded":false,"isEmpty":true},"authError":null,"profile":{"isLoaded":false,"isEmpty":true},"listeners":{"byId":{},"allIds":[]},"isInitializing":false,"errors":[]},"navBarReducer":{"navBarId":"news","fullView":true,"showPlayer":false},"navMenuReducer":{"menus":[{"key":"menu1","items":[{"name":"News","link":"/","type":"title"},{"name":"Politics","link":"/politics"},{"name":"Science","link":"/science"},{"name":"Education","link":"/educationnews"},{"name":"Housing","link":"/housing"},{"name":"Immigration","link":"/immigration"},{"name":"Criminal Justice","link":"/criminaljustice"},{"name":"Silicon Valley","link":"/siliconvalley"},{"name":"Forum","link":"/forum"},{"name":"The California Report","link":"/californiareport"}]},{"key":"menu2","items":[{"name":"Arts & Culture","link":"/arts","type":"title"},{"name":"Critics’ Picks","link":"/thedolist"},{"name":"Cultural Commentary","link":"/artscommentary"},{"name":"Food & Drink","link":"/food"},{"name":"Bay Area Hip-Hop","link":"/bayareahiphop"},{"name":"Rebel Girls","link":"/rebelgirls"},{"name":"Arts Video","link":"/artsvideos"}]},{"key":"menu3","items":[{"name":"Podcasts","link":"/podcasts","type":"title"},{"name":"Bay Curious","link":"/podcasts/baycurious"},{"name":"Rightnowish","link":"/podcasts/rightnowish"},{"name":"The Bay","link":"/podcasts/thebay"},{"name":"On Our Watch","link":"/podcasts/onourwatch"},{"name":"Mindshift","link":"/podcasts/mindshift"},{"name":"Consider This","link":"/podcasts/considerthis"},{"name":"Political Breakdown","link":"/podcasts/politicalbreakdown"}]},{"key":"menu4","items":[{"name":"Live Radio","link":"/radio","type":"title"},{"name":"TV","link":"/tv","type":"title"},{"name":"Events","link":"/events","type":"title"},{"name":"For Educators","link":"/education","type":"title"},{"name":"Support KQED","link":"/support","type":"title"},{"name":"About","link":"/about","type":"title"},{"name":"Help Center","link":"https://kqed-helpcenter.kqed.org/s","type":"title"}]}]},"pagesReducer":{},"postsReducer":{"stream_live":{"type":"live","id":"stream_live","audioUrl":"https://streams.kqed.org/kqedradio","title":"Live Stream","excerpt":"Live Stream information currently unavailable.","link":"/radio","featImg":"","label":{"name":"KQED Live","link":"/"}},"stream_kqedNewscast":{"type":"posts","id":"stream_kqedNewscast","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/newscast.mp3?_=1","title":"KQED Newscast","featImg":"","label":{"name":"88.5 FM","link":"/"}},"news_11980028":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11980028","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11980028","score":null,"sort":[1710892884000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"reddits-set-to-go-public-heres-what-you-should-know","title":"Reddit’s Set to Go Public: Here’s What You Should Know","publishDate":1710892884,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Reddit’s Set to Go Public: Here’s What You Should Know | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Reddit, that vast, lively and sometimes chaotic repository of internet discussion, is expected to carry a valuation of up to $6.4 billion when it conducts its initial public offering on the stock market.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The offering also makes Reddit one of the first online companies to offer shares to its contributors — the “Redditors” who comment on its boards and the moderators who manage them. That’s a break with traditional IPO practice, in which initial shares are typically sold to institutional investors and fund managers who then begin trading the stock on the open market. Adding the company’s users to the mix could make for a much livelier offering, and not necessarily in a good way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It could be an interesting ride.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are the details of the IPO?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Deiya Pernas, co-founder, Pernas Research\"]‘Mishandling this process could result in (Reddit) alienating their most ardent supporters, potentially turning them into critics.’[/pullquote]Reddit plans to list 22 million shares between $31 and $34, according to the latest version of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1713445/000162828024010137/reddit-sx1a1.htm\">IPO prospectus\u003c/a> it filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company stands to take in between $473.6 million and $519.4 million from selling roughly 15.3 million shares.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reddit’s existing investors will sell an additional 6.7 million shares in the offering, raising between $208.4 million and $228.6 million for their own portfolios. Reddit itself won’t benefit from those sales.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Per standard IPO operating procedure, those shares will typically end up with a mix of mutual funds, hedge funds and other major investment groups that will then hawk them to their investor customers.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What’s different about the Reddit IPO?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Reddit also plans to sell up to 1.76 million shares — roughly 8% of the total offering — to a mix of certain board members and so-called “friends and family members” of certain board members and employees. Plus, of course, the moderators and Redditors who make Reddit what it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The wild card here is that these stock purchasers, who will pay the IPO price for their shares, won’t be bound by “lock-up agreements” that require company officers and employees to hold their shares for a fixed period of time — potentially as long as six months. That means Redditors and moderators will be able to sell their shares immediately if they wish.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are the risks of this setup?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For starters, think of share-price volatility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While it’s unclear from the perspective of just how many of those 1.76 million shares will end up in the hands of Reddit users, the number is likely large enough for those users to exert meaningful pressure on Reddit’s share price. The main concern is that a surge of demand for shares that aren’t locked up could create a sudden run-up in the share price, followed by an equally sharp decline once the initial excitement wears off and short-sellers — investors who effectively place bets that a stock will decline — begin to gather.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s pretty much what happened with Robinhood Markets, which operates a simple-to-use and low-cost trading platform aimed at novice investors that also offers IPO shares to its users. The company’s stock opened at $38 on its first day of trading in July 2021, shot up to $85 five days later, then plunged back to roughly $40 after just six weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Mishandling this process could result in (Reddit) alienating their most ardent supporters, potentially turning them into critics,” warned Deiya Pernas, co-founder of Pernas Research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Don Montanaro, president of the trading platform Firstrade, argues that Reddit may not have had much choice but to go this route. “They’ve been running a business where their clients, their users, are their product,” he said. “It’s a case of, ‘What else could we do? This is who we are; how could we not offer this to these people?’”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Can I get in on this offering?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you don’t already have a Reddit account, you’re probably out of luck. The offering is only available to users with established accounts as of January 1, 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beyond that, shares will be distributed to Redditors and moderators via a formula that accounts for their measurable contributions to the discussion boards. Redditors with high “karma” scores — a measure of their contributions to the community, such as posts that other Redditors find useful, amusing or insightful — will be grouped into six priority tiers for access to the stock offering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Moderators who have taken significant numbers of “moderator actions” will likewise be sorted into those tiers. Such actions can include anything from designing a new discussion group — aka a “subreddit” in the jargon of the site — to removing spam or duplicate posts to enforcing subreddit rules. Moderators will also be rated on membership trends in their subreddits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>None of this guarantees an individual a chance at buying shares if demand exceeds supply, although Reddit emphasizes in the prospectus that anyone who isn’t awarded a shot at purchasing shares can join a waitlist.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Any other risks I should know about?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Reddit has not had a profitable year since it was founded in 2005. After losing nearly $159 million in 2022, the platform generated $804 million in sales last year, up nearly 21% from 2022, narrowing its losses to about $91 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its filing, Reddit’s leadership listed several avenues of revenue it’d like to expand on to reach profitability, including an interest in business deals where AI companies pay to access databases of human-written text that AI models can use to refine their ability to converse, answer questions and produce written work and images on request.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the company said Friday that the Federal Trade Commission has opened an inquiry into the platform’s dealings in this space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Given the novel nature of these technologies and commercial arrangements, we are not surprised that the FTC has expressed interest in this area,” Reddit wrote in the filing. “We do not believe that we have engaged in any unfair or deceptive trade practice.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Reddit is also allocating some IPO shares to its users, which the company describes as a way to pay back the people who have made the platform successful. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1710892884,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":1082},"headData":{"title":"Reddit’s Set to Go Public: Here’s What You Should Know | KQED","description":"Reddit is also allocating some IPO shares to its users, which the company describes as a way to pay back the people who have made the platform successful. 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That’s a break with traditional IPO practice, in which initial shares are typically sold to institutional investors and fund managers who then begin trading the stock on the open market. Adding the company’s users to the mix could make for a much livelier offering, and not necessarily in a good way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It could be an interesting ride.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are the details of the IPO?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘Mishandling this process could result in (Reddit) alienating their most ardent supporters, potentially turning them into critics.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Deiya Pernas, co-founder, Pernas Research","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Reddit plans to list 22 million shares between $31 and $34, according to the latest version of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1713445/000162828024010137/reddit-sx1a1.htm\">IPO prospectus\u003c/a> it filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company stands to take in between $473.6 million and $519.4 million from selling roughly 15.3 million shares.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reddit’s existing investors will sell an additional 6.7 million shares in the offering, raising between $208.4 million and $228.6 million for their own portfolios. Reddit itself won’t benefit from those sales.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Per standard IPO operating procedure, those shares will typically end up with a mix of mutual funds, hedge funds and other major investment groups that will then hawk them to their investor customers.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What’s different about the Reddit IPO?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Reddit also plans to sell up to 1.76 million shares — roughly 8% of the total offering — to a mix of certain board members and so-called “friends and family members” of certain board members and employees. Plus, of course, the moderators and Redditors who make Reddit what it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The wild card here is that these stock purchasers, who will pay the IPO price for their shares, won’t be bound by “lock-up agreements” that require company officers and employees to hold their shares for a fixed period of time — potentially as long as six months. That means Redditors and moderators will be able to sell their shares immediately if they wish.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are the risks of this setup?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For starters, think of share-price volatility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While it’s unclear from the perspective of just how many of those 1.76 million shares will end up in the hands of Reddit users, the number is likely large enough for those users to exert meaningful pressure on Reddit’s share price. The main concern is that a surge of demand for shares that aren’t locked up could create a sudden run-up in the share price, followed by an equally sharp decline once the initial excitement wears off and short-sellers — investors who effectively place bets that a stock will decline — begin to gather.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s pretty much what happened with Robinhood Markets, which operates a simple-to-use and low-cost trading platform aimed at novice investors that also offers IPO shares to its users. The company’s stock opened at $38 on its first day of trading in July 2021, shot up to $85 five days later, then plunged back to roughly $40 after just six weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Mishandling this process could result in (Reddit) alienating their most ardent supporters, potentially turning them into critics,” warned Deiya Pernas, co-founder of Pernas Research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Don Montanaro, president of the trading platform Firstrade, argues that Reddit may not have had much choice but to go this route. “They’ve been running a business where their clients, their users, are their product,” he said. “It’s a case of, ‘What else could we do? This is who we are; how could we not offer this to these people?’”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Can I get in on this offering?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you don’t already have a Reddit account, you’re probably out of luck. The offering is only available to users with established accounts as of January 1, 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beyond that, shares will be distributed to Redditors and moderators via a formula that accounts for their measurable contributions to the discussion boards. Redditors with high “karma” scores — a measure of their contributions to the community, such as posts that other Redditors find useful, amusing or insightful — will be grouped into six priority tiers for access to the stock offering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Moderators who have taken significant numbers of “moderator actions” will likewise be sorted into those tiers. Such actions can include anything from designing a new discussion group — aka a “subreddit” in the jargon of the site — to removing spam or duplicate posts to enforcing subreddit rules. Moderators will also be rated on membership trends in their subreddits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>None of this guarantees an individual a chance at buying shares if demand exceeds supply, although Reddit emphasizes in the prospectus that anyone who isn’t awarded a shot at purchasing shares can join a waitlist.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Any other risks I should know about?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Reddit has not had a profitable year since it was founded in 2005. After losing nearly $159 million in 2022, the platform generated $804 million in sales last year, up nearly 21% from 2022, narrowing its losses to about $91 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its filing, Reddit’s leadership listed several avenues of revenue it’d like to expand on to reach profitability, including an interest in business deals where AI companies pay to access databases of human-written text that AI models can use to refine their ability to converse, answer questions and produce written work and images on request.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the company said Friday that the Federal Trade Commission has opened an inquiry into the platform’s dealings in this space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Given the novel nature of these technologies and commercial arrangements, we are not surprised that the FTC has expressed interest in this area,” Reddit wrote in the filing. “We do not believe that we have engaged in any unfair or deceptive trade practice.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11980028/reddits-set-to-go-public-heres-what-you-should-know","authors":["byline_news_11980028"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_1632","news_3301"],"featImg":"news_11980038","label":"news"},"news_11746192":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11746192","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11746192","score":null,"sort":[1557437633000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"ubers-eye-popping-ipo-approaches-is-it-really-worth-90-billion","title":"Uber's Eye-Popping IPO Approaches. Is it Really Worth $90 Billion?","publishDate":1557437633,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Uber will go public on Friday in a highly anticipated initial public offering that will be the largest since 2014 — and one of the biggest in U.S. history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After speculation that the ride-hailing company could be valued at as high as $120 billion, Uber is now targeting a valuation of $80 billion to $90 billion. At the same time, it has never made a profit — and has instead been burning through cash at a prodigious rate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"More Uber IPO coverage\" tag=\"ipo\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber has grown massively in the decade since its founding and has footprints around the world. Its wild success has made Uber a household name — not just synonymous with ride-hailing but shorthand for any app that offers a service on demand: \"Uber, but for laundry,\" \"Uber, but for dog-walking.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And these days, Uber itself is the Uber for a lot more than ride-hailing. Uber Eats is Uber, but for \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/10/23/658436657/ubers-online-only-restaurants-the-future-or-the-end-of-dining-out\">takeout\u003c/a>. Uber Freight is Uber, but for shipping. Jump is Uber, but for electric bikes and scooters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is a company that's fighting a lot of battles on a lot of fronts,\" says Tom White, an analyst at D.A. Davidson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has been expensive for Uber to expand into all those new markets. And the company has burned through money while keeping rates low to compete with its numerous rivals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber has mastered the art of rapid growth. But how can it pivot to become a profitable company?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's the $100 billion question,\" says Ygal Arounian, an equity analyst at Wedbush Securities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Uber is losing money, and you have to have a little bit of a vision to see them taking that revenue and start turning it into profit,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both Arounian and White are optimistic about Uber's chances — eventually.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber has sheer scale on its side, giving it a balance sheet that will let it wait out competitors. And once rivals have dropped out or consolidated, Uber can stop spending so much on discounts and coupons (thus effectively raising prices for users) and start bringing in more money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Arounian also notes that there's an advantage to being the Uber for everything. If drivers work for multiple Uber platforms — for example, for ride-hailing and for Uber Eats — they can fill a day more efficiently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"During peak driving times, that driver is picking people up and dropping them off,\" Arounian says. \"Lunchtime kicks in — they're dropping off food. Switch back on during the evening rush hour to drop people off, and then they could do dinner.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That gives Uber an edge over companies that offer just one service. Cut some expenses, find a way to spend less on insurance, eventually roll out self-driving cars, and you may have a recipe for profits, Arounian says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's reason to be skeptical. To make this recipe work, Uber has to crush a small army of competitors. And when it comes to self-driving cars, there are huge obstacles, including not just technical challenges but also a maze of regulatory hurdles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Analysts who believe in Uber's future profits emphasize that they're talking about the long term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the meantime, aside from the minor detail that it burns billions of dollars each year, Uber has other challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Drivers have complained about their pay. On Wednesday, drivers \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/05/08/721333408/uber-and-lyft-drivers-are-striking-and-call-on-passengers-to-boycott\">went on strike \u003c/a>and protested in cities across the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>James Hicks was on strike in Los Angeles. He noted that Uber recently cut driver per-mile pay by 25% in that city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My main concern is making sure that each and every individual driver makes enough money to put food on the table, to pay the bills,\" Hicks said, standing at the protest at Los Angeles International Airport.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And some drivers have called to be treated like employees, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/17/415262801/california-labor-commission-rules-uber-driver-is-an-employee-not-a-contractor\">not contractors\u003c/a>, which would hurt Uber financially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then there is Uber's dented brand. The company was long famous for openly flouting laws. Its corporate culture was toxic. Women who worked at Uber have reported rampant \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/06/531806891/uber-fires-20-employees-after-sexual-harassment-claim-investigation\">sexual harassment\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/06/21/533791446/after-ceo-resignation-is-uber-kalanick-less-or-kalanick-free\">ousted co-founder Travis Kalanick\u003c/a> as CEO and replaced him with \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/27/546621735/uber-picks-new-ceo-expedias-dara-khosrowshahi\">Dara Khosrowshahi\u003c/a>, who has been tasked with cleaning up shop — and, with some of Uber's reputation restored, taking the company public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the IPO approaches, Uber has tempered expectations slightly. Lyft's IPO in March is a bit of a cautionary tale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber's smaller ride-sharing rival set an ambitious price for its shares. After an initial pop, Lyft's stock slid dramatically. It has dropped nearly 30% from its IPO price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Uber prepares to follow Lyft into the stock market, it's \u003cem>not\u003c/em> aiming for a $120 billion valuation, like some analysts had previously floated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, with a total value of $80 billion to $90 billion, this will be the largest IPO in five years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Uber%27s+Eye-Popping+IPO+Approaches.+Is+It+Really+Worth+%2490+Billion%3F&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Uber has never been profitable, yet the ride-hailing company may be valued at as much as $90 billion when it goes public Friday. 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At the same time, it has never made a profit — and has instead been burning through cash at a prodigious rate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"More Uber IPO coverage ","tag":"ipo"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber has grown massively in the decade since its founding and has footprints around the world. Its wild success has made Uber a household name — not just synonymous with ride-hailing but shorthand for any app that offers a service on demand: \"Uber, but for laundry,\" \"Uber, but for dog-walking.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And these days, Uber itself is the Uber for a lot more than ride-hailing. Uber Eats is Uber, but for \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/10/23/658436657/ubers-online-only-restaurants-the-future-or-the-end-of-dining-out\">takeout\u003c/a>. Uber Freight is Uber, but for shipping. Jump is Uber, but for electric bikes and scooters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is a company that's fighting a lot of battles on a lot of fronts,\" says Tom White, an analyst at D.A. Davidson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has been expensive for Uber to expand into all those new markets. And the company has burned through money while keeping rates low to compete with its numerous rivals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber has mastered the art of rapid growth. But how can it pivot to become a profitable company?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's the $100 billion question,\" says Ygal Arounian, an equity analyst at Wedbush Securities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Uber is losing money, and you have to have a little bit of a vision to see them taking that revenue and start turning it into profit,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both Arounian and White are optimistic about Uber's chances — eventually.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber has sheer scale on its side, giving it a balance sheet that will let it wait out competitors. And once rivals have dropped out or consolidated, Uber can stop spending so much on discounts and coupons (thus effectively raising prices for users) and start bringing in more money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Arounian also notes that there's an advantage to being the Uber for everything. If drivers work for multiple Uber platforms — for example, for ride-hailing and for Uber Eats — they can fill a day more efficiently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"During peak driving times, that driver is picking people up and dropping them off,\" Arounian says. \"Lunchtime kicks in — they're dropping off food. Switch back on during the evening rush hour to drop people off, and then they could do dinner.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That gives Uber an edge over companies that offer just one service. Cut some expenses, find a way to spend less on insurance, eventually roll out self-driving cars, and you may have a recipe for profits, Arounian says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's reason to be skeptical. To make this recipe work, Uber has to crush a small army of competitors. And when it comes to self-driving cars, there are huge obstacles, including not just technical challenges but also a maze of regulatory hurdles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Analysts who believe in Uber's future profits emphasize that they're talking about the long term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the meantime, aside from the minor detail that it burns billions of dollars each year, Uber has other challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Drivers have complained about their pay. On Wednesday, drivers \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/05/08/721333408/uber-and-lyft-drivers-are-striking-and-call-on-passengers-to-boycott\">went on strike \u003c/a>and protested in cities across the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>James Hicks was on strike in Los Angeles. He noted that Uber recently cut driver per-mile pay by 25% in that city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My main concern is making sure that each and every individual driver makes enough money to put food on the table, to pay the bills,\" Hicks said, standing at the protest at Los Angeles International Airport.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And some drivers have called to be treated like employees, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/17/415262801/california-labor-commission-rules-uber-driver-is-an-employee-not-a-contractor\">not contractors\u003c/a>, which would hurt Uber financially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then there is Uber's dented brand. The company was long famous for openly flouting laws. Its corporate culture was toxic. Women who worked at Uber have reported rampant \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/06/531806891/uber-fires-20-employees-after-sexual-harassment-claim-investigation\">sexual harassment\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/06/21/533791446/after-ceo-resignation-is-uber-kalanick-less-or-kalanick-free\">ousted co-founder Travis Kalanick\u003c/a> as CEO and replaced him with \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/27/546621735/uber-picks-new-ceo-expedias-dara-khosrowshahi\">Dara Khosrowshahi\u003c/a>, who has been tasked with cleaning up shop — and, with some of Uber's reputation restored, taking the company public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the IPO approaches, Uber has tempered expectations slightly. Lyft's IPO in March is a bit of a cautionary tale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber's smaller ride-sharing rival set an ambitious price for its shares. After an initial pop, Lyft's stock slid dramatically. It has dropped nearly 30% from its IPO price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Uber prepares to follow Lyft into the stock market, it's \u003cem>not\u003c/em> aiming for a $120 billion valuation, like some analysts had previously floated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, with a total value of $80 billion to $90 billion, this will be the largest IPO in five years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2019 NPR. 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Many, many, many of them are very aware the companies have been treating us unfairly. There’s a very big awareness of that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/Steph_Lister_7/status/1126200496039940097\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber driver Gabriel Ets-Hokin said the real danger with the company is that it built its business by fragmenting workers and slashing their pay below livable rates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What will society look like when this model is exported to other industries?” he asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Erica Mighetto said she drives to San Francisco from Sacramento to try to make money driving for Lyft. She took the job because her dad has diabetes and she‘s the primary caregiver. But she said she now has to drive 60 hours a week to pay the bills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/SamWHarnett/status/1126213122228809728\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among the \u003ca href=\"https://drivers-united.org/strike\">drivers' demands in Los Angeles \u003c/a>are a 10% cap on commissions taken by Uber and Lyft, hourly minimum pay and fare breakdowns on passenger receipts that show the companies' take. New York drivers \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytwa.org/home/2019/5/7/nyc-is-strike-ready-tomorrow-uber-lyft-juno-via-apps-off-7am-9am\">are demanding\u003c/a> an end to sudden account deactivations and the right to appeal through the courts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The strike was spearheaded by \u003ca href=\"https://drivers-united.org/\">Rideshare Drivers United\u003c/a>, a Los Angeles-based association of drivers. And the group is asking for the support of would-be passengers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We ask that the public support drivers in their struggle for fair wages and our Drivers bill of rights,\" spokesman Brian Dolber said in an email to NPR. \"We are calling for community standards that will ensure that Uber and Lyft do not create needless traffic and pollution. By boycotting Uber/Lyft for 24 hours, passengers can show that they stand with RDU in our fight for a rideshare industry that truly serves Angelenos.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When companies go public, it usually means big money for executives and sometimes nice payouts for employees. San Francisco's housing market has been bracing for the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/style/uber-ipo-san-francisco-rich.html\">thousands\u003c/a> of newly minted millionaires spawned by four major IPOs this spring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber's valuation could be as high as \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/technology/uber-ipo-valuation-price-range.html?module=inline\">$91 billion\u003c/a> when trading begins, which would place it among the top three most valuable firms to ever debut on a U.S. exchange. Co-founder and former CEO Travis Kalanick's stake may be worth \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/05/business/dealbook/uber-ipo.html\">as much as\u003c/a> $5.9 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/SamWHarnett/status/1126209288081293312\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the IPO won't be life-changing for most drivers, who Uber insists are independent contractors, not employees. Some drivers will receive \u003ca href=\"https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1543151/000119312519120759/d647752ds1a.htm#toc647752_1\">one-time bonuses\u003c/a> according to their loyalty: Those who completed more than 2,500 trips before April 7 and at least one this year are eligible for a bonus, ranging from $100 for those drivers with 2,500 completed trips to $40,000 for 40,000 completed trips. U.S. drivers can use that bonus to buy \u003ca href=\"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uber-ipo-will-uber-drivers-profit-from-tech-companys-initial-public-offering/\">up to $10,000 in stock\u003c/a> in the company at the IPO price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may not end up being a great deal if Lyft's IPO is any indication: Its shares are down about 20% since the initial offering. Some drivers also \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/03/29/707908980/uber-and-lyft-drivers-strike-in-california\">went on strike\u003c/a> before Lyft went public in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Strikes or rallies are also planned in Chicago, Washington, Boston, Atlanta, Philadelphia, San Diego and Stamford, Connecticut. On Twitter, organizers are using the hashtags #StrikeUberLyft and #AppsOffMay8 to build momentum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This strike is taking different forms in different cities, but in the L.A. metro area, the strike will last for \u003ca href=\"https://drivers-united.org/strike\">24 hours\u003c/a>, with a picket line at Los Angeles International Airport and a noon rally. The New York Taxi Workers Alliance called for \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytwa.org/home/2019/5/7/nyc-is-strike-ready-tomorrow-uber-lyft-juno-via-apps-off-7am-9am\">a rush-hour strike\u003c/a>, during which drivers will turn off the Uber, Lyft, Juno and Via apps from 7 to 9 a.m., and then rally outside Uber and Lyft headquarters in Long Island City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Uber/Lyft going public on the stock market will make billionaires of Uber and Lyft bosses while drivers struggle in poverty and the companies destroy the livelihoods of drivers in every sector,\" the New York drivers' organization says in its call to action.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For those who often use ride-hailing apps and want to support the strike, today may mean a commute by public transit, a cab or bicycle. At D.C.-area airports, officials arranged for extra cabs and said they always encourage passengers to consider taking the Metro rail system or the bus, The Washington Post \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2019/05/07/strike-by-uber-lyft-drivers-wednesday-has-potential-disrupt-travel-thousands/?utm_term=.f1d44fa418bf\">reported\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement to Post, Uber said drivers \"are at the heart of our service — we can't succeed without them — and thousands of people come into work at Uber every day focused on how to make their experience better, on and off the road. Whether it's more consistent earnings, stronger insurance protections or fully-funded four-year degrees for drivers or their families, we'll continue working to improve the experience for and with drivers.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED's Sam Harnett and Stephanie Lister contributed to this post.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2019 NPR. 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Many, many, many of them are very aware the companies have been treating us unfairly. There’s a very big awareness of that.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1126200496039940097"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Uber driver Gabriel Ets-Hokin said the real danger with the company is that it built its business by fragmenting workers and slashing their pay below livable rates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What will society look like when this model is exported to other industries?” he asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Erica Mighetto said she drives to San Francisco from Sacramento to try to make money driving for Lyft. She took the job because her dad has diabetes and she‘s the primary caregiver. But she said she now has to drive 60 hours a week to pay the bills.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1126213122228809728"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Among the \u003ca href=\"https://drivers-united.org/strike\">drivers' demands in Los Angeles \u003c/a>are a 10% cap on commissions taken by Uber and Lyft, hourly minimum pay and fare breakdowns on passenger receipts that show the companies' take. New York drivers \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytwa.org/home/2019/5/7/nyc-is-strike-ready-tomorrow-uber-lyft-juno-via-apps-off-7am-9am\">are demanding\u003c/a> an end to sudden account deactivations and the right to appeal through the courts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The strike was spearheaded by \u003ca href=\"https://drivers-united.org/\">Rideshare Drivers United\u003c/a>, a Los Angeles-based association of drivers. And the group is asking for the support of would-be passengers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We ask that the public support drivers in their struggle for fair wages and our Drivers bill of rights,\" spokesman Brian Dolber said in an email to NPR. \"We are calling for community standards that will ensure that Uber and Lyft do not create needless traffic and pollution. By boycotting Uber/Lyft for 24 hours, passengers can show that they stand with RDU in our fight for a rideshare industry that truly serves Angelenos.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When companies go public, it usually means big money for executives and sometimes nice payouts for employees. San Francisco's housing market has been bracing for the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/style/uber-ipo-san-francisco-rich.html\">thousands\u003c/a> of newly minted millionaires spawned by four major IPOs this spring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Uber's valuation could be as high as \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/technology/uber-ipo-valuation-price-range.html?module=inline\">$91 billion\u003c/a> when trading begins, which would place it among the top three most valuable firms to ever debut on a U.S. exchange. Co-founder and former CEO Travis Kalanick's stake may be worth \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/05/business/dealbook/uber-ipo.html\">as much as\u003c/a> $5.9 billion.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1126209288081293312"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>But the IPO won't be life-changing for most drivers, who Uber insists are independent contractors, not employees. Some drivers will receive \u003ca href=\"https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1543151/000119312519120759/d647752ds1a.htm#toc647752_1\">one-time bonuses\u003c/a> according to their loyalty: Those who completed more than 2,500 trips before April 7 and at least one this year are eligible for a bonus, ranging from $100 for those drivers with 2,500 completed trips to $40,000 for 40,000 completed trips. U.S. drivers can use that bonus to buy \u003ca href=\"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uber-ipo-will-uber-drivers-profit-from-tech-companys-initial-public-offering/\">up to $10,000 in stock\u003c/a> in the company at the IPO price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may not end up being a great deal if Lyft's IPO is any indication: Its shares are down about 20% since the initial offering. Some drivers also \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/03/29/707908980/uber-and-lyft-drivers-strike-in-california\">went on strike\u003c/a> before Lyft went public in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Strikes or rallies are also planned in Chicago, Washington, Boston, Atlanta, Philadelphia, San Diego and Stamford, Connecticut. On Twitter, organizers are using the hashtags #StrikeUberLyft and #AppsOffMay8 to build momentum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This strike is taking different forms in different cities, but in the L.A. metro area, the strike will last for \u003ca href=\"https://drivers-united.org/strike\">24 hours\u003c/a>, with a picket line at Los Angeles International Airport and a noon rally. The New York Taxi Workers Alliance called for \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytwa.org/home/2019/5/7/nyc-is-strike-ready-tomorrow-uber-lyft-juno-via-apps-off-7am-9am\">a rush-hour strike\u003c/a>, during which drivers will turn off the Uber, Lyft, Juno and Via apps from 7 to 9 a.m., and then rally outside Uber and Lyft headquarters in Long Island City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Uber/Lyft going public on the stock market will make billionaires of Uber and Lyft bosses while drivers struggle in poverty and the companies destroy the livelihoods of drivers in every sector,\" the New York drivers' organization says in its call to action.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For those who often use ride-hailing apps and want to support the strike, today may mean a commute by public transit, a cab or bicycle. At D.C.-area airports, officials arranged for extra cabs and said they always encourage passengers to consider taking the Metro rail system or the bus, The Washington Post \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2019/05/07/strike-by-uber-lyft-drivers-wednesday-has-potential-disrupt-travel-thousands/?utm_term=.f1d44fa418bf\">reported\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement to Post, Uber said drivers \"are at the heart of our service — we can't succeed without them — and thousands of people come into work at Uber every day focused on how to make their experience better, on and off the road. Whether it's more consistent earnings, stronger insurance protections or fully-funded four-year degrees for drivers or their families, we'll continue working to improve the experience for and with drivers.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED's Sam Harnett and Stephanie Lister contributed to this post.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11745857/uber-and-lyft-drivers-are-striking-calling-on-passengers-to-boycott","authors":["byline_news_11745857"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8","news_248","news_1397"],"tags":["news_1632","news_4524","news_4523"],"featImg":"news_11746007","label":"source_news_11745857"},"news_11745754":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11745754","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11745754","score":null,"sort":[1557269627000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"buckle-up-for-the-ipos","title":"Buckle Up for the IPOs","publishDate":1557269627,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Mark Fiore: Drawn to the Bay | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":18515,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Millionaires and billionaires, anyone?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bay Area \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/style/uber-ipo-san-francisco-rich.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">housing\u003c/a> and state tax revenues may be \u003ca href=\"http://bit.ly/fioreipotaxes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in for a wild ride\u003c/a> as at least six companies valued at over $1 billion are set to go public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The number-crunchers estimate Uber will be valued at around $91 billion, making it one of the most gigantic initial public offerings in technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, state officials say they are about to rake in the largest haul of capital gains taxes the state has ever seen, even before any IPO windfalls are figured in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even though what goes up can \u003cem>definitely\u003c/em> come down, it seems a little different from the days of \u003ca href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/sock-puppet-kills-petscom\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sock puppet IPOs\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Millionaires and billionaires, anyone? Housing and tax revenues may be in for a wild ride as at least six companies valued at over $1 billion are set to go public.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1557269627,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":7,"wordCount":111},"headData":{"title":"Buckle Up for the IPOs | KQED","description":"Millionaires and billionaires, anyone? Housing and tax revenues may be in for a wild ride as at least six companies valued at over $1 billion are set to go public.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Buckle Up for the IPOs","datePublished":"2019-05-07T22:53:47.000Z","dateModified":"2019-05-07T22:53:47.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11745754 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11745754","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/05/07/buckle-up-for-the-ipos/","disqusTitle":"Buckle Up for the IPOs","path":"/news/11745754/buckle-up-for-the-ipos","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Millionaires and billionaires, anyone?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bay Area \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/style/uber-ipo-san-francisco-rich.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">housing\u003c/a> and state tax revenues may be \u003ca href=\"http://bit.ly/fioreipotaxes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in for a wild ride\u003c/a> as at least six companies valued at over $1 billion are set to go public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The number-crunchers estimate Uber will be valued at around $91 billion, making it one of the most gigantic initial public offerings in technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, state officials say they are about to rake in the largest haul of capital gains taxes the state has ever seen, even before any IPO windfalls are figured in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even though what goes up can \u003cem>definitely\u003c/em> come down, it seems a little different from the days of \u003ca href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/sock-puppet-kills-petscom\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sock puppet IPOs\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11745754/buckle-up-for-the-ipos","authors":["3236"],"series":["news_18515"],"categories":["news_1758","news_6266","news_8","news_13","news_248"],"tags":["news_1632","news_20949","news_4523","news_25660"],"featImg":"news_11745767","label":"news_18515"},"news_11737947":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11737947","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11737947","score":null,"sort":[1554413643000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"a-tale-of-two-states","title":"A Tale of Two States","publishDate":1554413643,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Mark Fiore: Drawn to the Bay | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":18515,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>One in five babies and toddlers in California are \u003ca href=\"http://bit.ly/childhoodpoverty\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">born into poverty\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some counties the rate is much higher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, thanks to a string of tech IPOs, San Francisco is about to be home to \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/style/uber-ipo-san-francisco-rich.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">thousands of newly-minted millionaires.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even though Lyft's initial public offering got off to a rocky start, the company managed to create billions of dollars pretty much overnight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, a million or several would be great. But I think I'd feel a little guilty knowing that just a short drive away, almost half of the children younger than four years old are living in poverty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"One in five babies and toddlers in California are born into poverty. In some counties the rate is much higher.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1554413643,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":7,"wordCount":105},"headData":{"title":"A Tale of Two States | KQED","description":"One in five babies and toddlers in California are born into poverty. In some counties the rate is much higher.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"A Tale of Two States","datePublished":"2019-04-04T21:34:03.000Z","dateModified":"2019-04-04T21:34:03.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11737947 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11737947","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/04/04/a-tale-of-two-states/","disqusTitle":"A Tale of Two States","path":"/news/11737947/a-tale-of-two-states","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>One in five babies and toddlers in California are \u003ca href=\"http://bit.ly/childhoodpoverty\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">born into poverty\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some counties the rate is much higher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, thanks to a string of tech IPOs, San Francisco is about to be home to \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/style/uber-ipo-san-francisco-rich.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">thousands of newly-minted millionaires.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even though Lyft's initial public offering got off to a rocky start, the company managed to create billions of dollars pretty much overnight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, a million or several would be great. But I think I'd feel a little guilty knowing that just a short drive away, almost half of the children younger than four years old are living in poverty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11737947/a-tale-of-two-states","authors":["3236"],"series":["news_18515"],"categories":["news_1758","news_18540","news_6266","news_8"],"tags":["news_22569","news_5096","news_5605","news_1632","news_20949","news_1585"],"featImg":"news_11737970","label":"news_18515"},"news_117482":{"type":"posts","id":"news_117482","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"117482","score":null,"sort":[1383843092000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"twitter-debuts-on-nyse-then-goes-nuts","title":"Twitter Debuts on NYSE, Then Goes Nuts ","publishDate":1383843092,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_117483\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/07/twitter-ipo-stock-debuts-on-NYSE/rs7447_187232512-hpf/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-117483\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-117483\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/RS7447_187232512-hpf.jpg\" alt=\" The Twitter logo is displayed on a banner outside the New York Stock Exchange. (Photo by Andrew Burton/Getty Images)\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Twitter logo is displayed on a banner outside the New York Stock Exchange. (Photo by Andrew Burton/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>So much for our plan to wait until Twitter's stock falls 50 percent or so before buying. The microblogging company with dreams of becoming a profitable global advertising platform launched its IPO today. The stock opened at $45, about 80 percent above the initial offering price set just last night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's coverage from the Wall Street Journal: \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2013/11/07/live-blogging-twitters-ipo/?mod=yahoo_hs\" target=\"_blank\">Live Blogging Twitter's IPO\u003c/a>.\u003cbr>\n\u003c!--more-->\u003cbr>\nHere's a reminder, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wired.com/business/2013/11/twitter-goes-public/\" target=\"_blank\">via Wired's Ryan Tate\u003c/a>, that despite what I'll call the crazy rise in the stock, Twitter hasn't conquered the world yet:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Despite all the froth around Twitter’s IPO, the company isn’t all that big, with a valuation, at the moment, of around $31.5 billion. Rival Facebook clocks in at around $120 billion, while an icon of the last tech boom, Amazon, is worth $163 billion. Google is at $342 billion. Twitter is closer to being an Intuit or Adobe than the next Facebook.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Part of that difference is down to the fact that Twitter bleeds cash while Facebook gushes profit. After losing $80 million last year, Twitter posted a net loss of $134 million for the first nine months of this year, according to a company filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. It has never been profitable. Facebook, in contrast, grew profits for at least three years to $1 billion before it went public.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>And The Atlantic points out that even artsy-crafty Etsy has a take on the IPO:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\u003cp>The Twitter IPO, in the tender eyes of Etsy \u003ca href=\"http://t.co/ovaCTlC5hC\">http://t.co/ovaCTlC5hC\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— TheAtlanticTech (@TheAtlanticTECH) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/TheAtlanticTECH/statuses/398492970673922048\">November 7, 2013\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Here's the latest Associated Press take on the IPO and the opening of trading:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barbara Ortutay\u003cbr>\nAP Technology Writer\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NEW YORK — If Twitter's bankers and executives were hoping for a surge on the day of the stock's public debut, they got it. The stock opened at $45.10 a share on its first day of trading, 73 percent above its initial offering price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's gone on pretty flawlessly,\" says JJ Kinahan, chief strategist at TD Ameritrade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stock is now trading on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol \"TWTR.\" It's the most highly anticipated initial public stock offering since Facebook debuted last year. More than an hour into trading, the stock is holding steady. This tight range of trading, Kinahan says, indicates that people \"feel like it was pretty fairly priced.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The opening price values Twitter Inc. at $31 billion, which puts it in in range of KFC and Pizza Hut owner Yum Brands, tractor and tool maker Deere & Co. and slightly below State Street Corp., a financial services holding company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It clearly shows that demand exceeds the supply of shares,\" says Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter. \"It's impossible to know what the real value is.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's shares jumped as high as $50.09 on Thursday morning and were up $19.14, or 73.6 percent, at $45.14 in midday trading amid a broader market decline. Tech stocks were broadly down as well, with Facebook Inc. sliding $1.02, or 2.1 percent, to $48.10.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier in the day, Twitter gave users the opportunity to ring NYSE's opening bell instead of executives. The users included Sir Patrick Stewart, Captain Jean-Luc Picard in \"Star Trek: The Next Generation\"; Vivienne Harr, a 9-year-old girl who ran a lemonade stand for a year to raise money to end child slavery; and Cheryl Fiandaca of the Boston Police Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's initial public offering was carefully orchestrated to avoid the glitches and eventual letdown that surrounded Facebook's initial public offering on the Nasdaq 18 months ago. Still, it's the most highly anticipated IPO since its Silicon Valley rival's 2012 debut.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In hindsight when you look at this you almost think they left a little too much money on the table,\" says Roger Entner of Recon Analytics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What Entner means is that Twitter raised $1.8 billion Wednesday night when it sold 70 million shares at $26 each. Had it priced the stock at $30, for instance, the company would have taken away $2.1 billion. At $35, it would have reaped nearly $2.5 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At $26 per share, Twitter was valued at more than $18 billion based on its outstanding stock, options and restricted stock expected to be available after the IPO. That already put it above Macy's and Bed Bath & Beyond. Facebook Inc.'s value, meanwhile, stood at $104 billion at the time of its IPO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter, named after the sound of a chirping bird, got its start 7 years ago, first with Jack Dorsey and then Evan Williams as CEO. Its current chief is Dick Costolo, a former Google executive who once aspired to be a stand-up comedian. On March 21, 2006, Dorsey posted the world's first tweet: \"Just setting up my twttr.\" Noah Glass, who helped create Twitter posted the same words just 10 minutes later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, the social network that lets users send short messages in 140-character bursts has attracted world leaders, religious icons and celebrities, along with CEOs, businesses and a slew of marketers and self-promoters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tempering expectations was a big theme in the weeks leading up to Twitter's IPO, but that all but flew out the window with the stock's opening surge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Twitter now just has to deliver on all this,\" Entner says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company tried to avoid the trouble that plagued Facebook's high-profile offering. Facebook's public debut was marred by technical glitches on the Nasdaq Stock Exchange. As a result, the Securities and Exchange Commission fined Nasdaq $10 million, the largest ever levied against an exchange. Those problems likely led Twitter to the NYSE.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter is also likely hoping for a first-day pop of its shares that eluded Facebook's stock. Facebook's shares closed just 23 cents above their $38 IPO price on their first trading day. They traded below $38 for more than a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, $18 billion is a lofty valuation for Twitter compared with its peers. At its IPO price, Twitter valued at roughly 28 times its projected 2013 revenue —$650 million based on its current growth rate. In comparison, Facebook trades at about 16 times its projected 2013 revenue, according to analyst forecasts from FactSet. Google Inc. meanwhile, is trading at about 7 times its net revenue, the figure Wall Street follows that excludes ad commissions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Research firm Outsell Inc. puts Twitter's fundamental value at about half of the IPO price, says analyst Ken Doctor. That figure is based on factors such as revenue and revenue growth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's not unusual,\" Doctor says. \"Especially for tech companies. You are betting on a big future.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of Twitter's biggest challenges as a newly public company will be to generate more revenue outside the U.S. More than three-quarters of Twitter's 232 million users are outside the U.S. But only 26 percent of Twitter's revenue comes from abroad. The company has said that it plans to bring in more international revenue by hiring more sales representatives in countries such as Australia, Brazil and Ireland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pricing means Twitter raised $1.8 billion in the offering before expenses. Twitter was offering 70 million shares in the IPO, plus an option to buy another 10.5 million. If all shares are sold, the IPO will raise $2.09 billion, making it the biggest IPO for an Internet company since Facebook raised $16 billion last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter, which has never turned a profit in 7 years of existence, had originally set a price range of $17 to $20 per share for the IPO, but that was an obvious lowball designed to temper expectations. It was widely expected that the price range would go higher. Back in August, for example, the company priced some of its employee stock options at $20.62, based on an appraisal by an investment firm and it's unlikely to have lost value since.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's shares enter a frothy market. The Dow Jones industrial average closed at a record high on Wednesday, up 128 points, or 0.8 percent, to 15,746. The Standard & Poor's 500 index rose seven points, or 0.4 percent, to 1,770, just one point below its own all-time high.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>AP Technology Writer Michael Liedtke in San Francisco and AP Markets Writer Ken Sweet in New York contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Stock opens 80 percent above offering price set less than 24 hours ago amid heavy trading on the New York Stock Exchange.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1399488744,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":36,"wordCount":1445},"headData":{"title":"Twitter Debuts on NYSE, Then Goes Nuts | KQED","description":"Stock opens 80 percent above offering price set less than 24 hours ago amid heavy trading on the New York Stock Exchange.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Twitter Debuts on NYSE, Then Goes Nuts ","datePublished":"2013-11-07T16:51:32.000Z","dateModified":"2014-05-07T18:52:24.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"117482 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=117482","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/07/twitter-debuts-on-nyse-then-goes-nuts/","disqusTitle":"Twitter Debuts on NYSE, Then Goes Nuts ","customPermalink":"2013/11/07/twitter-ipo-stock-debuts-on-NYSE/","path":"/news/117482/twitter-debuts-on-nyse-then-goes-nuts","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_117483\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/07/twitter-ipo-stock-debuts-on-NYSE/rs7447_187232512-hpf/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-117483\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-117483\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/RS7447_187232512-hpf.jpg\" alt=\" The Twitter logo is displayed on a banner outside the New York Stock Exchange. (Photo by Andrew Burton/Getty Images)\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Twitter logo is displayed on a banner outside the New York Stock Exchange. (Photo by Andrew Burton/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>So much for our plan to wait until Twitter's stock falls 50 percent or so before buying. The microblogging company with dreams of becoming a profitable global advertising platform launched its IPO today. The stock opened at $45, about 80 percent above the initial offering price set just last night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's coverage from the Wall Street Journal: \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2013/11/07/live-blogging-twitters-ipo/?mod=yahoo_hs\" target=\"_blank\">Live Blogging Twitter's IPO\u003c/a>.\u003cbr>\n\u003c!--more-->\u003cbr>\nHere's a reminder, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wired.com/business/2013/11/twitter-goes-public/\" target=\"_blank\">via Wired's Ryan Tate\u003c/a>, that despite what I'll call the crazy rise in the stock, Twitter hasn't conquered the world yet:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Despite all the froth around Twitter’s IPO, the company isn’t all that big, with a valuation, at the moment, of around $31.5 billion. Rival Facebook clocks in at around $120 billion, while an icon of the last tech boom, Amazon, is worth $163 billion. Google is at $342 billion. Twitter is closer to being an Intuit or Adobe than the next Facebook.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Part of that difference is down to the fact that Twitter bleeds cash while Facebook gushes profit. After losing $80 million last year, Twitter posted a net loss of $134 million for the first nine months of this year, according to a company filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. It has never been profitable. Facebook, in contrast, grew profits for at least three years to $1 billion before it went public.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>And The Atlantic points out that even artsy-crafty Etsy has a take on the IPO:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\u003cp>The Twitter IPO, in the tender eyes of Etsy \u003ca href=\"http://t.co/ovaCTlC5hC\">http://t.co/ovaCTlC5hC\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— TheAtlanticTech (@TheAtlanticTECH) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/TheAtlanticTECH/statuses/398492970673922048\">November 7, 2013\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Here's the latest Associated Press take on the IPO and the opening of trading:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barbara Ortutay\u003cbr>\nAP Technology Writer\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NEW YORK — If Twitter's bankers and executives were hoping for a surge on the day of the stock's public debut, they got it. The stock opened at $45.10 a share on its first day of trading, 73 percent above its initial offering price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's gone on pretty flawlessly,\" says JJ Kinahan, chief strategist at TD Ameritrade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stock is now trading on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol \"TWTR.\" It's the most highly anticipated initial public stock offering since Facebook debuted last year. More than an hour into trading, the stock is holding steady. This tight range of trading, Kinahan says, indicates that people \"feel like it was pretty fairly priced.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The opening price values Twitter Inc. at $31 billion, which puts it in in range of KFC and Pizza Hut owner Yum Brands, tractor and tool maker Deere & Co. and slightly below State Street Corp., a financial services holding company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It clearly shows that demand exceeds the supply of shares,\" says Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter. \"It's impossible to know what the real value is.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's shares jumped as high as $50.09 on Thursday morning and were up $19.14, or 73.6 percent, at $45.14 in midday trading amid a broader market decline. Tech stocks were broadly down as well, with Facebook Inc. sliding $1.02, or 2.1 percent, to $48.10.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier in the day, Twitter gave users the opportunity to ring NYSE's opening bell instead of executives. The users included Sir Patrick Stewart, Captain Jean-Luc Picard in \"Star Trek: The Next Generation\"; Vivienne Harr, a 9-year-old girl who ran a lemonade stand for a year to raise money to end child slavery; and Cheryl Fiandaca of the Boston Police Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's initial public offering was carefully orchestrated to avoid the glitches and eventual letdown that surrounded Facebook's initial public offering on the Nasdaq 18 months ago. Still, it's the most highly anticipated IPO since its Silicon Valley rival's 2012 debut.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In hindsight when you look at this you almost think they left a little too much money on the table,\" says Roger Entner of Recon Analytics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What Entner means is that Twitter raised $1.8 billion Wednesday night when it sold 70 million shares at $26 each. Had it priced the stock at $30, for instance, the company would have taken away $2.1 billion. At $35, it would have reaped nearly $2.5 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At $26 per share, Twitter was valued at more than $18 billion based on its outstanding stock, options and restricted stock expected to be available after the IPO. That already put it above Macy's and Bed Bath & Beyond. Facebook Inc.'s value, meanwhile, stood at $104 billion at the time of its IPO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter, named after the sound of a chirping bird, got its start 7 years ago, first with Jack Dorsey and then Evan Williams as CEO. Its current chief is Dick Costolo, a former Google executive who once aspired to be a stand-up comedian. On March 21, 2006, Dorsey posted the world's first tweet: \"Just setting up my twttr.\" Noah Glass, who helped create Twitter posted the same words just 10 minutes later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, the social network that lets users send short messages in 140-character bursts has attracted world leaders, religious icons and celebrities, along with CEOs, businesses and a slew of marketers and self-promoters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tempering expectations was a big theme in the weeks leading up to Twitter's IPO, but that all but flew out the window with the stock's opening surge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Twitter now just has to deliver on all this,\" Entner says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company tried to avoid the trouble that plagued Facebook's high-profile offering. Facebook's public debut was marred by technical glitches on the Nasdaq Stock Exchange. As a result, the Securities and Exchange Commission fined Nasdaq $10 million, the largest ever levied against an exchange. Those problems likely led Twitter to the NYSE.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter is also likely hoping for a first-day pop of its shares that eluded Facebook's stock. Facebook's shares closed just 23 cents above their $38 IPO price on their first trading day. They traded below $38 for more than a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, $18 billion is a lofty valuation for Twitter compared with its peers. At its IPO price, Twitter valued at roughly 28 times its projected 2013 revenue —$650 million based on its current growth rate. In comparison, Facebook trades at about 16 times its projected 2013 revenue, according to analyst forecasts from FactSet. Google Inc. meanwhile, is trading at about 7 times its net revenue, the figure Wall Street follows that excludes ad commissions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Research firm Outsell Inc. puts Twitter's fundamental value at about half of the IPO price, says analyst Ken Doctor. That figure is based on factors such as revenue and revenue growth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's not unusual,\" Doctor says. \"Especially for tech companies. You are betting on a big future.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of Twitter's biggest challenges as a newly public company will be to generate more revenue outside the U.S. More than three-quarters of Twitter's 232 million users are outside the U.S. But only 26 percent of Twitter's revenue comes from abroad. The company has said that it plans to bring in more international revenue by hiring more sales representatives in countries such as Australia, Brazil and Ireland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pricing means Twitter raised $1.8 billion in the offering before expenses. Twitter was offering 70 million shares in the IPO, plus an option to buy another 10.5 million. If all shares are sold, the IPO will raise $2.09 billion, making it the biggest IPO for an Internet company since Facebook raised $16 billion last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter, which has never turned a profit in 7 years of existence, had originally set a price range of $17 to $20 per share for the IPO, but that was an obvious lowball designed to temper expectations. It was widely expected that the price range would go higher. Back in August, for example, the company priced some of its employee stock options at $20.62, based on an appraisal by an investment firm and it's unlikely to have lost value since.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's shares enter a frothy market. The Dow Jones industrial average closed at a record high on Wednesday, up 128 points, or 0.8 percent, to 15,746. The Standard & Poor's 500 index rose seven points, or 0.4 percent, to 1,770, just one point below its own all-time high.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>AP Technology Writer Michael Liedtke in San Francisco and AP Markets Writer Ken Sweet in New York contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/117482/twitter-debuts-on-nyse-then-goes-nuts","authors":["222"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_1758","news_248"],"tags":["news_249","news_1632","news_346"],"featImg":"news_117483","label":"news_6944"},"news_117408":{"type":"posts","id":"news_117408","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"117408","score":null,"sort":[1383783121000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"twitter-sets-ipo-price-26","title":"Twitter Sets IPO Price: $26 ","publishDate":1383783121,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_113735\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/10/03/twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr/rs6714_photo-hpf/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-113735\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-113735\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/10/RS6714_photo-hpf.jpg\" alt=\"Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco (Olivia Hubert-Allen). \" width=\"640\" height=\"480\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco. (Olivia Hubert-Allen)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, 9 a.m. Thursday:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/07/twitter-ipo-stock-debuts-on-NYSE\" target=\"_blank\">Twitter Debuts on NYSE, Then Goes Nuts\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original post:\u003c/strong> Twitter — to be known on the New York Stock Exchange as TWTR — just set a price for its initial public offering, scheduled to open trading Thursday morning. The price: 26 bucks. That's way above the original range of $17 to $20 and even higher than the revised (not to say \"jacked up\") range of $23 to $25 announced earlier this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company announced the news on its own service, naturally (we think they've cheated on the 140-character limit with the linked disclaimer document, though):\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\u003cp>We just priced our IPO. \u003ca href=\"http://t.co/NWXaO4Myq0\">pic.twitter.com/NWXaO4Myq0\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Twitter (@twitter) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/398235511254298624\">November 6, 2013\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>One line from that disclaimer: \"This Tweet shall not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy\" the company's stock.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's the story from the Associated Press:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NEW YORK — Twitter has set a price of $26 for its initial public offering of stock, which means the company's shares can begin trading Thursday on the New York Stock Exchange.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The price values Twitter at more than $18 billion based on its outstanding stock, options and restricted stock that'll be available after the IPO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter Inc. had originally set a price range of $17 to $20 per share for its IPO, but analysts expected that to go higher. The company raised the range on Monday to $23 to $25 per share, signaling enthusiastic response from prospective investors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco-based short messaging service is offering 70 million shares in the IPO, plus an option to buy another 10.5 million. It is set to begin trading Thursday morning under the symbol \"TWTR.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The offering price values the San Francisco company at $18 billion. Trading begins Thursday.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1399488745,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":303},"headData":{"title":"Twitter Sets IPO Price: $26 | KQED","description":"The offering price values the San Francisco company at $18 billion. Trading begins Thursday.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Twitter Sets IPO Price: $26 ","datePublished":"2013-11-07T00:12:01.000Z","dateModified":"2014-05-07T18:52:25.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"117408 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=117408","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/06/twitter-sets-ipo-price-26/","disqusTitle":"Twitter Sets IPO Price: $26 ","customPermalink":"2013/11/06/twitter-sets-ipo-price-at-26-dollars/","path":"/news/117408/twitter-sets-ipo-price-26","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_113735\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/10/03/twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr/rs6714_photo-hpf/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-113735\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-113735\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/10/RS6714_photo-hpf.jpg\" alt=\"Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco (Olivia Hubert-Allen). \" width=\"640\" height=\"480\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco. (Olivia Hubert-Allen)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, 9 a.m. Thursday:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/11/07/twitter-ipo-stock-debuts-on-NYSE\" target=\"_blank\">Twitter Debuts on NYSE, Then Goes Nuts\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original post:\u003c/strong> Twitter — to be known on the New York Stock Exchange as TWTR — just set a price for its initial public offering, scheduled to open trading Thursday morning. The price: 26 bucks. That's way above the original range of $17 to $20 and even higher than the revised (not to say \"jacked up\") range of $23 to $25 announced earlier this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company announced the news on its own service, naturally (we think they've cheated on the 140-character limit with the linked disclaimer document, though):\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\u003cp>We just priced our IPO. \u003ca href=\"http://t.co/NWXaO4Myq0\">pic.twitter.com/NWXaO4Myq0\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Twitter (@twitter) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/398235511254298624\">November 6, 2013\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>One line from that disclaimer: \"This Tweet shall not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy\" the company's stock.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's the story from the Associated Press:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NEW YORK — Twitter has set a price of $26 for its initial public offering of stock, which means the company's shares can begin trading Thursday on the New York Stock Exchange.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The price values Twitter at more than $18 billion based on its outstanding stock, options and restricted stock that'll be available after the IPO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter Inc. had originally set a price range of $17 to $20 per share for its IPO, but analysts expected that to go higher. The company raised the range on Monday to $23 to $25 per share, signaling enthusiastic response from prospective investors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco-based short messaging service is offering 70 million shares in the IPO, plus an option to buy another 10.5 million. It is set to begin trading Thursday morning under the symbol \"TWTR.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/117408/twitter-sets-ipo-price-26","authors":["222"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_1758","news_248"],"tags":["news_1632","news_346"],"featImg":"news_113735","label":"news_6944"},"news_114080":{"type":"posts","id":"news_114080","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"114080","score":null,"sort":[1381186338000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"twitter-contemplates-the-risks-it-may-face-in-the-future","title":"Twitter Contemplates the Risks It May Face in the Future","publishDate":1381186338,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_113735\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/10/03/twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr/rs6714_photo-hpf/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-113735\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-113735\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/10/RS6714_photo-hpf.jpg\" alt=\"Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco (Olivia Hubert-Allen/KQED). \" width=\"640\" height=\"480\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco (Olivia Hubert-Allen/KQED).\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Buried deep within Twitter’s \u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1418091/000119312513390321/d564001ds1.htm#toc564001_4\">S-1 filing\u003c/a>\u003c/strong> last week — part of the process of preparing to go public — the micro-blogging service lists page after page of the kinds of business risks it faces that could undermine its success. It's kind of a pro forma exercise for companies getting ready to sell stock to investors on the open market: \"You know, we're a great company, and we'd love to have you buy in, but just be aware that you could lose your shirt in this deal.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are a few of the more amusing risks that Twitter listed when \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/10/03/twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr/\" target=\"_blank\">it made its prospectus public\u003c/a> last week:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Remember Webvan?\u003c/strong>: \"A number of consumer-oriented websites that achieved early popularity have since seen their user bases or levels of engagement decline, in some cases precipitously. There is no guarantee that we will not experience a similar erosion of our user base or engagement levels.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Celebrities are fickle\u003c/strong>: \"(I)nfluential users, such as world leaders, government officials, celebrities, athletes, journalists, sports teams, media outlets and brands or certain age demographics (may) conclude that an alternative product or service is more relevant.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Spiced ham\u003c/strong>: \"(W)e are unable to combat spam or other hostile or inappropriate usage on our platform.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Non-people\u003c/strong>: \"(T)here are a number of false or spam accounts in existence on our platform. We currently estimate that false or spam accounts represent less than 5% of our (accounts).\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Too much money\u003c/strong>: \"Moreover, liquidity available to our employee security holders following this offering could lead to disparities of wealth among our employees, which could adversely impact relations among employees and our culture in general. Our transition from a private company to a public company may result in a change to our corporate culture, which could harm our business.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There also are some distinctly \u003cem>un\u003c/em>amusing risks listed:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The NSA and hackers\u003c/strong>: \"(T)here are user concerns related to privacy and communication, safety, security or other factors.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Failure to scale\u003c/strong>: \"Our business and operating results may be harmed by a disruption in our service, or by our failure to timely and effectively scale and adapt our existing technology and infrastructure. ... For example, in July 2012, due to the failure of two parallel systems at nearly the same time in one of our data centers, Twitter became inaccessible for approximately two hours.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The San Andreas Fault (and terrorists)\u003c/strong>: \"Our headquarters and certain of our co-located data center facilities are located in the San Francisco Bay Area, a region known for seismic activity. Despite any precautions we may take, the occurrence of a natural disaster or other unanticipated problems at our data centers could result in lengthy interruptions in our services. In addition, acts of terrorism and other geopolitical unrest could cause disruptions in our business. All of the aforementioned risks may be further increased if our disaster recovery plans prove to be inadequate.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Oops\u003c/strong>: \"We do not carry business interruption insurance sufficient to compensate us for the potentially significant losses, including the potential harm to our business that may result from interruptions in our ability to provide our products and services.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Threats include earthquakes, the NSA, and bad planning. Plus, celebs might stop sending tweets. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1399488750,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":14,"wordCount":541},"headData":{"title":"Twitter Contemplates the Risks It May Face in the Future | KQED","description":"Threats include earthquakes, the NSA, and bad planning. 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It's kind of a pro forma exercise for companies getting ready to sell stock to investors on the open market: \"You know, we're a great company, and we'd love to have you buy in, but just be aware that you could lose your shirt in this deal.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are a few of the more amusing risks that Twitter listed when \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/10/03/twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr/\" target=\"_blank\">it made its prospectus public\u003c/a> last week:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Remember Webvan?\u003c/strong>: \"A number of consumer-oriented websites that achieved early popularity have since seen their user bases or levels of engagement decline, in some cases precipitously. There is no guarantee that we will not experience a similar erosion of our user base or engagement levels.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Celebrities are fickle\u003c/strong>: \"(I)nfluential users, such as world leaders, government officials, celebrities, athletes, journalists, sports teams, media outlets and brands or certain age demographics (may) conclude that an alternative product or service is more relevant.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Spiced ham\u003c/strong>: \"(W)e are unable to combat spam or other hostile or inappropriate usage on our platform.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Non-people\u003c/strong>: \"(T)here are a number of false or spam accounts in existence on our platform. We currently estimate that false or spam accounts represent less than 5% of our (accounts).\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Too much money\u003c/strong>: \"Moreover, liquidity available to our employee security holders following this offering could lead to disparities of wealth among our employees, which could adversely impact relations among employees and our culture in general. Our transition from a private company to a public company may result in a change to our corporate culture, which could harm our business.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There also are some distinctly \u003cem>un\u003c/em>amusing risks listed:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The NSA and hackers\u003c/strong>: \"(T)here are user concerns related to privacy and communication, safety, security or other factors.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Failure to scale\u003c/strong>: \"Our business and operating results may be harmed by a disruption in our service, or by our failure to timely and effectively scale and adapt our existing technology and infrastructure. ... For example, in July 2012, due to the failure of two parallel systems at nearly the same time in one of our data centers, Twitter became inaccessible for approximately two hours.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The San Andreas Fault (and terrorists)\u003c/strong>: \"Our headquarters and certain of our co-located data center facilities are located in the San Francisco Bay Area, a region known for seismic activity. Despite any precautions we may take, the occurrence of a natural disaster or other unanticipated problems at our data centers could result in lengthy interruptions in our services. In addition, acts of terrorism and other geopolitical unrest could cause disruptions in our business. All of the aforementioned risks may be further increased if our disaster recovery plans prove to be inadequate.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Oops\u003c/strong>: \"We do not carry business interruption insurance sufficient to compensate us for the potentially significant losses, including the potential harm to our business that may result from interruptions in our ability to provide our products and services.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/114080/twitter-contemplates-the-risks-it-may-face-in-the-future","authors":["223"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_1758","news_248"],"tags":["news_1632","news_346"],"featImg":"news_113735","label":"news_6944"},"news_113734":{"type":"posts","id":"news_113734","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"113734","score":null,"sort":[1380840215000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr","title":"Twitter Unveils IPO Details; Ticker Symbol Will Be TWTR","publishDate":1380840215,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_113735\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/10/03/twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr/rs6714_photo-hpf/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-113735\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-113735\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/10/RS6714_photo-hpf.jpg\" alt=\"Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco (Olivia Hubert-Allen). \" width=\"640\" height=\"480\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco (Olivia Hubert-Allen/KQED).\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Until today, all that was known about Twitter's impending public stock offering was a 135-character message saying it had filed its IPO papers with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Today the company told the rest of the story, making its prospectus public for the first time. So, now that potential investors get a chance to paw through the company's numbers, the debate begins: Is the offering a rocketship or a dog?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The New York Times Dealbook blog \u003ca href=\"http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/10/03/twitter-discloses-its-i-p-o-plans/\" target=\"_blank\">summarizes\u003c/a> company financials disclosed today:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"In its second quarter this year, Twitter reported 218.3 million average monthly active users, up 44 percent from the same time a year. Its revenue for the first half of this year was $253.6 million, more than double the same time last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company has also been losing money, reporting a net loss of $79 million last year and $69 million for the first six months of 2013. Even after adjusting for stock option compensation and other items like depreciation, Twitter has still reported steady losses.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>In its analysis, \u003ca href=\"http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/03/twitters-international-revenue-is-skyrocketing-but-the-company-is-worried-about-sina-weibo-and-line/\" target=\"_blank\">TechCrunch focuses\u003c/a> on Twitter's potential challenges in overseas markets:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Here’s Twitter’s S-1 name-checking a number of services that could harm its growth: \u003cem>\"Increased competition from local websites, mobile applications and services that provide real-time communications, such as Sina Weibo in China, LINE in Japan and Kakao in South Korea, which have expanded and may continue to expand their geographic footprint. ...\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If those services were to expand to as many markets as Twitter, they could lower Twitter’s usage, and therefore its ability to sell advertisements. Twitter plans on selling advertisements in more countries in the future it states, but if Line and its ilk slow its rollout, Twitter could find its revenue growth on hold.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->\u003cbr>\nVentureBeat \u003ca href=\"http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/03/twitter-to-hit-the-stock-market-in-1b-ipo-as-twtr/\" target=\"_blank\">goes deeper\u003c/a> into Twitter's numbers and highlights Twitter's claimed advantages as an advertising platform:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>In its filing, Twitter is telling the world that it can be \u003cem>the\u003c/em> “content creation, distribution, and discovery platform for the Internet and evolving mobile ecosystem,” combining the elements of public data, real-time information, conversation tone, and massive distribution. The resulting value proposition for advertisers, the company says, is: unique ad formats (its suite of promoted tweets, accounts, etc.), interest targeting, viral global reach, real-time advertising, pay-for-performance, and the extension of offline advertising, as on TV.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Finally, here's the Associated Press's latest writethrough on the Twitter IPO:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barbara Ortutay\u003cbr>\nAP Technology Writer\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NEW YORK — Twitter has unsealed the documents for its planned initial public offering of stock and says it hopes to raise up to $1 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company is also revealing for the first time the amount of money it makes. Founded in 2006, Twitter has never turned a profit and has an uninterrupted history of losses totaling $419 million since its inception. But its revenue is growing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter disclosed three weeks ago that it filed confidential IPO papers to start the process of going public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, San Francisco-based Twitter Inc. unsealed the papers with the Securities and Exchange Commission, giving potential investors and its user base a look inside its business. The company was taking advantage of federal legislation passed last year that allows companies with less than $1 billion in revenue in its last fiscal year to avoid submitting public IPO documents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter says that it generated $317 million in revenue in 2012 and that it had more than 218 million active users as of the end of June, up 44 percent from a year earlier. That compares with Facebook's nearly 1.2 billion and LinkedIn's 240 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company also said that it lost $69.3 million in the first six months of 2013, compared with a loss of $49.1 million for the same period last year. Revenue more than doubled to $254 million from $122 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter did not say which stock exchange it plans to list its shares on, though the company said it intends to use the ticker symbol \"TWTR.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The underwriters of the offering are Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan, BofA Merrill Lynch, Deutsche Bank Securities and CODE Advisors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's IPO has been long expected. The company has been ramping up its advertising products and working to boost ad revenue in preparation. But it is still tiny compared with Facebook, which saw its hotly anticipated IPO implode last year amid worries about its ability to grow mobile ad revenue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's moneymaking potential has minted the company with an estimated market value of $10 billion, based on the appraisals of venture capitalists and other early investors. The IPO could value it higher or lower. PrivCo analyst Sam Hamadeh says he expects Twitter to aim for a market value of about $15 billion when it prices its IPO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's appeal is in its simplicity. Users send short messages — either public or private — that consist of up to 140 characters. Anyone can \"follow\" anyone else, but the relationship doesn't have to be reciprocal, which makes the service especially attractive for celebrities and companies that use Twitter to communicate directly with customers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter has 2,000 employees, up from 200 at the start of 2010.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Company details financials, future as an ad platform — and potential challenges from Asian competitors.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1380847090,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":892},"headData":{"title":"Twitter Unveils IPO Details; Ticker Symbol Will Be TWTR | KQED","description":"Company details financials, future as an ad platform — and potential challenges from Asian competitors.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Twitter Unveils IPO Details; Ticker Symbol Will Be TWTR","datePublished":"2013-10-03T22:43:35.000Z","dateModified":"2013-10-04T00:38:10.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"113734 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=113734","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/10/03/twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr/","disqusTitle":"Twitter Unveils IPO Details; Ticker Symbol Will Be TWTR","path":"/news/113734/twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_113735\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/10/03/twitter-unveils-ipo-details-ticker-symbol-will-be-twtr/rs6714_photo-hpf/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-113735\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-113735\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/10/RS6714_photo-hpf.jpg\" alt=\"Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco (Olivia Hubert-Allen). \" width=\"640\" height=\"480\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Twitter headquarters, on Market Street in San Francisco (Olivia Hubert-Allen/KQED).\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Until today, all that was known about Twitter's impending public stock offering was a 135-character message saying it had filed its IPO papers with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Today the company told the rest of the story, making its prospectus public for the first time. So, now that potential investors get a chance to paw through the company's numbers, the debate begins: Is the offering a rocketship or a dog?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The New York Times Dealbook blog \u003ca href=\"http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/10/03/twitter-discloses-its-i-p-o-plans/\" target=\"_blank\">summarizes\u003c/a> company financials disclosed today:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"In its second quarter this year, Twitter reported 218.3 million average monthly active users, up 44 percent from the same time a year. Its revenue for the first half of this year was $253.6 million, more than double the same time last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company has also been losing money, reporting a net loss of $79 million last year and $69 million for the first six months of 2013. Even after adjusting for stock option compensation and other items like depreciation, Twitter has still reported steady losses.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>In its analysis, \u003ca href=\"http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/03/twitters-international-revenue-is-skyrocketing-but-the-company-is-worried-about-sina-weibo-and-line/\" target=\"_blank\">TechCrunch focuses\u003c/a> on Twitter's potential challenges in overseas markets:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Here’s Twitter’s S-1 name-checking a number of services that could harm its growth: \u003cem>\"Increased competition from local websites, mobile applications and services that provide real-time communications, such as Sina Weibo in China, LINE in Japan and Kakao in South Korea, which have expanded and may continue to expand their geographic footprint. ...\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If those services were to expand to as many markets as Twitter, they could lower Twitter’s usage, and therefore its ability to sell advertisements. Twitter plans on selling advertisements in more countries in the future it states, but if Line and its ilk slow its rollout, Twitter could find its revenue growth on hold.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->\u003cbr>\nVentureBeat \u003ca href=\"http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/03/twitter-to-hit-the-stock-market-in-1b-ipo-as-twtr/\" target=\"_blank\">goes deeper\u003c/a> into Twitter's numbers and highlights Twitter's claimed advantages as an advertising platform:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>In its filing, Twitter is telling the world that it can be \u003cem>the\u003c/em> “content creation, distribution, and discovery platform for the Internet and evolving mobile ecosystem,” combining the elements of public data, real-time information, conversation tone, and massive distribution. The resulting value proposition for advertisers, the company says, is: unique ad formats (its suite of promoted tweets, accounts, etc.), interest targeting, viral global reach, real-time advertising, pay-for-performance, and the extension of offline advertising, as on TV.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Finally, here's the Associated Press's latest writethrough on the Twitter IPO:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barbara Ortutay\u003cbr>\nAP Technology Writer\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NEW YORK — Twitter has unsealed the documents for its planned initial public offering of stock and says it hopes to raise up to $1 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company is also revealing for the first time the amount of money it makes. Founded in 2006, Twitter has never turned a profit and has an uninterrupted history of losses totaling $419 million since its inception. But its revenue is growing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter disclosed three weeks ago that it filed confidential IPO papers to start the process of going public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, San Francisco-based Twitter Inc. unsealed the papers with the Securities and Exchange Commission, giving potential investors and its user base a look inside its business. The company was taking advantage of federal legislation passed last year that allows companies with less than $1 billion in revenue in its last fiscal year to avoid submitting public IPO documents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter says that it generated $317 million in revenue in 2012 and that it had more than 218 million active users as of the end of June, up 44 percent from a year earlier. That compares with Facebook's nearly 1.2 billion and LinkedIn's 240 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company also said that it lost $69.3 million in the first six months of 2013, compared with a loss of $49.1 million for the same period last year. Revenue more than doubled to $254 million from $122 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter did not say which stock exchange it plans to list its shares on, though the company said it intends to use the ticker symbol \"TWTR.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The underwriters of the offering are Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan, BofA Merrill Lynch, Deutsche Bank Securities and CODE Advisors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twitter's IPO has been long expected. The company has been ramping up its advertising products and working to boost ad revenue in preparation. 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