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(Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Think the George Zimmerman verdict couldn't have happened under California law? Not necessarily. Florida may have a so-called \"stand-your-ground\" policy written into its laws, but it is possible that a California jury under very similar circumstances could have also handed down an acquittal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED's Joshua Johnson discussed California's stand-your-ground defense with Professor \u003ca href=\"http://www.uchastings.edu/academics/faculty/facultybios/little/index.php\" target=\"_blank\">Rory Little\u003c/a> of the UC Hastings College of the Law. From that conversation, here are five things to know about how California handles stand-your-ground defenses:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>1) Neither California's constitution nor its statutes contains a stand-your-ground law. They have what's known as a \"castle doctrine\" (\u003ca href=\"http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=187-199\" target=\"_blank\">California Penal Code Section 198.5\u003c/a>), granting a justification for deadly force inside one's residence. If someone forces his or her way into your home, and you have a \"reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury,\" then you would be justified in using deadly force to defend yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>2) Even though it's not in the law, the California Criminal Jury Instructions (CALCRIM) do allow a jury to acquit someone based on a stand-your-ground defense. The instruction appears in CALCRIM \u003ca href=\"http://www.courts.ca.gov/partners/documents/calcrim_juryins.pdf#page=289\">#505\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"http://www.courts.ca.gov/partners/documents/calcrim_juryins.pdf#page=295\" target=\"_blank\">#506\u003c/a>, both of which deal with justifiable homicide:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\"A defendant is not required to retreat. He or she is entitled to stand his or her ground and defend himself or herself and, if reasonably necessary, to pursue an assailant until the danger of (death/great bodily injury/<insert forcible and atrocious crime>) has passed. This is so even if safety could have been achieved by retreating.\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So in California, not only could you stay and fight, you can even chase your attacker if it will neutralize the threat to your life.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>3) California's stand-your-ground defense as part of the justifiable homicide rules has several conditions. Aggressors are not eligible for this -- you must be defending, not striking first. You, as a reasonable person, would have to believe the danger is imminent and not a threat at some time in the future. Also, you had to have believed that deadly force was necessary, and you had to have used just enough force to defend yourself. However, a defendant does not have to be correct about having actually been in danger. A jury can acquit if they think the defendant reasonably believed that mortal danger was truly there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>4) The legal precedents that established this jury instruction are very old: cases like People v. Hecker in 1895 and People v. Newcomer in 1897. Hecker says you may stand your ground if it's safer than retreating, but Newcomer changed that by removing the need to retreat (or \"fly,\" as the ruling said). These precedents have been cited over and over, but the state has never actually settled the question of whether stand your ground is legal in the modern era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Over a hundred years ago, the California Supreme Court said, 'no duty to retreat if you're in your home,'\" says UC Hastings Law Professor Rory Little. \"'We're going to leave open whether there's such a duty if you're outside of the home.' That little leaving-open has never been firmly answered by the California Supreme Court. They simply repeat the same broad language over and over again.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>5) To those assessing stand-your-ground laws based on the Zimmerman trial, some have complained that Zimmerman never actually invoked the law, even though it seems to have \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/07/15/kqed-forum-trayvon-martin-case/\" target=\"_blank\">helped his acquittal\u003c/a>. In California, as in Florida, a defense team does not have to actually invoke it: the judge is responsible for giving the jury this instruction on his or her own if the facts of the case warrant it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F102190601\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1374540409,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":644},"headData":{"title":"5 Things To Know About 'Stand Your Ground' In California | KQED","description":"Think the George Zimmerman verdict couldn't have happened under California law? Not necessarily. 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(Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Think the George Zimmerman verdict couldn't have happened under California law? Not necessarily. Florida may have a so-called \"stand-your-ground\" policy written into its laws, but it is possible that a California jury under very similar circumstances could have also handed down an acquittal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED's Joshua Johnson discussed California's stand-your-ground defense with Professor \u003ca href=\"http://www.uchastings.edu/academics/faculty/facultybios/little/index.php\" target=\"_blank\">Rory Little\u003c/a> of the UC Hastings College of the Law. From that conversation, here are five things to know about how California handles stand-your-ground defenses:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>1) Neither California's constitution nor its statutes contains a stand-your-ground law. They have what's known as a \"castle doctrine\" (\u003ca href=\"http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=187-199\" target=\"_blank\">California Penal Code Section 198.5\u003c/a>), granting a justification for deadly force inside one's residence. If someone forces his or her way into your home, and you have a \"reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury,\" then you would be justified in using deadly force to defend yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>2) Even though it's not in the law, the California Criminal Jury Instructions (CALCRIM) do allow a jury to acquit someone based on a stand-your-ground defense. The instruction appears in CALCRIM \u003ca href=\"http://www.courts.ca.gov/partners/documents/calcrim_juryins.pdf#page=289\">#505\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"http://www.courts.ca.gov/partners/documents/calcrim_juryins.pdf#page=295\" target=\"_blank\">#506\u003c/a>, both of which deal with justifiable homicide:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\"A defendant is not required to retreat. He or she is entitled to stand his or her ground and defend himself or herself and, if reasonably necessary, to pursue an assailant until the danger of (death/great bodily injury/<insert forcible and atrocious crime>) has passed. This is so even if safety could have been achieved by retreating.\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So in California, not only could you stay and fight, you can even chase your attacker if it will neutralize the threat to your life.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>3) California's stand-your-ground defense as part of the justifiable homicide rules has several conditions. Aggressors are not eligible for this -- you must be defending, not striking first. You, as a reasonable person, would have to believe the danger is imminent and not a threat at some time in the future. Also, you had to have believed that deadly force was necessary, and you had to have used just enough force to defend yourself. However, a defendant does not have to be correct about having actually been in danger. A jury can acquit if they think the defendant reasonably believed that mortal danger was truly there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>4) The legal precedents that established this jury instruction are very old: cases like People v. Hecker in 1895 and People v. Newcomer in 1897. Hecker says you may stand your ground if it's safer than retreating, but Newcomer changed that by removing the need to retreat (or \"fly,\" as the ruling said). These precedents have been cited over and over, but the state has never actually settled the question of whether stand your ground is legal in the modern era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Over a hundred years ago, the California Supreme Court said, 'no duty to retreat if you're in your home,'\" says UC Hastings Law Professor Rory Little. \"'We're going to leave open whether there's such a duty if you're outside of the home.' That little leaving-open has never been firmly answered by the California Supreme Court. They simply repeat the same broad language over and over again.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>5) To those assessing stand-your-ground laws based on the Zimmerman trial, some have complained that Zimmerman never actually invoked the law, even though it seems to have \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/07/15/kqed-forum-trayvon-martin-case/\" target=\"_blank\">helped his acquittal\u003c/a>. In California, as in Florida, a defense team does not have to actually invoke it: the judge is responsible for giving the jury this instruction on his or her own if the facts of the case warrant it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F102190601\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/104272/5-things-to-know-about-stand-your-ground-in-california","authors":["233"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6188"],"tags":["news_2419","news_4630","news_2418"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_103630":{"type":"posts","id":"news_103630","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"103630","score":null,"sort":[1374514209000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"more-on-the-trayvon-martin-case-stand-your-ground-civil-rights-prosecution-and-the-case-against-zimmerman","title":"John Burris on 'Stand Your Ground,' Civil Rights Prosecution, and the Legal Case in the Trayvon Martin Shooting","publishDate":1374514209,"format":"aside","headTitle":"John Burris on ‘Stand Your Ground,’ Civil Rights Prosecution, and the Legal Case in the Trayvon Martin Shooting | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_60544\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/03/141930997.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-60544 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/03/141930997-300x202.jpg\" alt=\"SANFORD, FL - MARCH 26: Trayvon Martin supporters march through downtown before the start of a town hall meeting about Martin’s death on March 26, 2012 in Sanford, Florida. (Photo by Mario Tama/Getty Images) \" width=\"300\" height=\"202\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">SANFORD, Fla. — Trayvon Martin supporters march through downtown before the start of a town hall meeting regarding Martin’s death on March 26, 2012 in Sanford, Florida. (Photo by Mario Tama/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Protests over the George Zimmerman verdict continue — another was \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23705334/second-san-jose-protest-rally-and-march-from\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">held in downtown San Jose\u003c/a> on Sunday. On Friday, President Obama helped keep the the story in the news with a statement on the case that \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/07/19/203706929/obama-explains-black-america-to-white-america\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">spoke directly to his experience\u003c/a> as an African American. (\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MHBdZWbncXI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Watch that video here\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last week, on KQED Radio’s Forum show, Oakland civil rights attorney John Burris, active in many high-profile Bay Area cases; and former San Francisco prosecutor Jim Hammer answered questions about the case. Taken from that conversation …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On whether the U.S. Department of Justice will take up the prosecution of George Zimmerman on civil rights charges\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>John Burris said he had sent about 10 cases over the course of his career to the Department of Justice for prosecution, including the Oscar Grant shooting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To be honest with you, they always open an investigation,” Burris said. “But they never complete the investigation. So I don’t think it’s likely.”\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said that the NAACP and Al Sharpton advocating for federal involvement might put pressure on the DOJ, but given the facts of the case, prosecution was unlikely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because [Zimmerman’s] not a police officer, then it’s a question of if it’s a hate crime, and in order for that to be a hate crime, you have to have animus that demonstrates that this was done as a consequence of hate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Initially, there was an issue about whether or not he’d made some kind of racially derogatory comment, and that caused the Justice Department to be concerned. But once that wasn’t there, then it seems to me that you don’t have the kind of animus that you need. Plus, it has to be a specific intent crime. So you almost have a higher standard than we have here, in beyond a reasonable doubt. ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said that in a federal criminal civil rights investigation, Zimmerman could still invoke his Fifth Amendment rights and would not be forced to take the stand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What about a civil case by the family?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said Martin’s family could file a civil case, suing Zimmerman for money damages. In this kind of lawsuit, the burden of proof is much less strenuous; the family could win if only a preponderance of the evidence is judged to be on their side. Zimmerman could also be required to give a deposition and take the stand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the message from the verdict\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A caller from Oakland expressed concern about the ultimate message that the verdict sent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In my opinion, because what has happened, you have families now that are going to be living in fear,” the caller said. “[We have] a disabled son that we’re trying to teach independence to and he’ll be 12. And my daughter says to me, ‘I know you were thinking about allowing him to ride the bus home after school, and I don’t think you can do that anymore because it’s a possibility that he could leave home and never ever come back because he can be accosted by anyone and shot and killed.’ So the Florida courts have created a climate of fear.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jim Hammer said he shared the caller’s distress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The outcome of this is that George Zimmerman walks out, gets his gun back — there’s no reason, he hasn’t committed a crime — and could get in his van and patrol neighborhoods again. Its scary, its outrageous,” Hammer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer said he taught at a black high school in Watts, and that he “hung out for a year with Trayvon Martins, you know, 17-year-old African-American kids, the most wonderful kids. But when they hit that street, they’re seen by many people as suspects and criminals, and all the rest of it. Over half of them went to college, but people don’t see them that way, so it’s a horrifying thought what young black men are thinking after this verdict.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> Was Stand Your Ground relevant to the case?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zimmerman’s defense did not invoke Florida’s controversial stand-your-ground Law. But, as Hammer and others have pointed out, it influenced the initial investigation of the shooting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer said that “if you listen to [the investigator’s] testimony, [he said] ‘well in light of Florida’s law, I believe this guy, so I let him walk home that night.'”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(A New York Times \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/us/trayvon-martin-case-shadowed-by-police-missteps.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">investigation on the mishandling of the investigation by local police\u003c/a> said the stand-your-ground law “became the framework within which the police and prosecutors had to work after Mr. Zimmerman claimed that Mr. Martin confronted and pounced on him.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris pointed out that the jury instructions cited stand your ground. “So therefore the jury … could then use that in terms of an application,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can \u003ca href=\"http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2013/07/12/Zimmerman_Final_Jury_Instructions.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">read the jury instructions here\u003c/a>. They read, in part:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the question of race\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking about the initial investigation, Hammer said,”If you do the race reversal for a moment …\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>if it had been an African-American man shooting a 17-year-old freckled faced white kid, would the cops have sent the African-American home and said have a good night?\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>I don’t know. My gut says probably not. I can’t say that’s false but to say race plays no role in this is a bit naive I think.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the legal case\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said he was “dumbfounded” that the prosecution did not invoke the \u003ca href=\"http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/776.041\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Florida statute\u003c/a> that invalidates a self-defense justification if the person claiming it is the aggressor. (One prosecutor, in analyzing the case, told the \u003ca href=\"http://www.bradenton.com/2013/07/22/4619087/analysis-zimmermans-acquittal.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bradenton Herald\u003c/a> that Zimmerman’s pursuit of the unarmed Martin could be considered a threatened use of force that could have defined him legally that way.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer agreed. “What I thought was wrong here, was that you had the stand-your-ground argument there, but there should have been another instruction that said, ‘if you are the aggressor, then you cannot avail yourself of the stand-your-ground law.’ I think that might have been more helpful to the jury because then that would have given them some basis to consider that if George Zimmerman in fact touched, approached, aggravated, and started this, then he couldn’t say I got self-defense without showing that he had tried to retreat.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer said that there is too much burden on the prosecution in cases like these. “Part of the problem is the prosecution has to prove a negative …. He can literally sit back and say, ‘prove I’m a liar.’ And that’s almost an insurmountable hill to climb.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer suggested that considering that how the fight started is still an unknown, the jury’s not-guilty finding was legally correct. “By not knowing how the fight started, all we are left with is the end result, and the end result you get is … what you see in terms of George Zimmerman’s injuries and a witness that sort of suggests that George Zimmerman was losing a fight. And in that sense, the jury verdict is probably consistent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said there was only circumstantial evidence to disprove the defense’s claim that the shooting was self-defense, which proved to be a high hurdle to overcome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also said that the prosecution should have argued that Martin was actually the person standing his ground. “After all, he was the one being pursued,” he said. “That never was argued in any kind of way by the prosecution. The fact that he himself was standing his ground, and what \u003cem>he\u003c/em> had a right to do. And so, that’s what made it more challenging for the prosecution, because they didn’t take advantage of the opportunity that they had to make arguments, to make Trayvon Martin a more sympathetic person, and they allowed the defense to define Trayvon Martin in ways that were hurtful and easy for the jury to accept.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On six jurors versus 12\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Martin case had just six jurors. Hammer said that benefits the prosecution. “It’s certainly easier to get six to agree,” he said. “The danger of it … is when you get such a small group, the chance of not getting a diverse jury goes up exponentially. Out of 12, you have a good chance of getting an African-American or two. And again, once that jury was set, I think the die was somewhat cast, and the chance of people not having faith in the verdict went through the roof.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On whether the case was prosecuted competently\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said he thought the prosecution saw that it was a tough case to win, but that public outrage and political pressure had forced their hand. “They kind of went through the motions,” he said. “I didn’t see the aggressive prosecution that I would have expected.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On untrained individuals confronting suspects\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer said things might have gone differently if a police officer had been the one who confronted Martin instead of Zimmerman. “I went through 2,000 hours of training,” he said. “I was a police commissioner in San Francisco and supervised, among other commissioners, 2,000 police officers. Police officers have many other means at their disposal just short of deadly force. They also wear a uniform … [A police officer] would have said, ‘son what are you doing here’ and hopefully it would have gone on its way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The idea that we have untrained [people] … muttering these sort of angry tirades [about] the police, driving around with guns and getting out of their cars is madness. I’m a big fan of well-trained police officers, and if we need more security, we should hire more of them. But we ought to get guns out of the hand of untrained police officers driving around, trying to be their own police officers.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1685487465,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":41,"wordCount":1867},"headData":{"title":"John Burris on 'Stand Your Ground,' Civil Rights Prosecution, and the Legal Case in the Trayvon Martin Shooting | KQED","description":"Protests over the George Zimmerman verdict continue -- another was held in downtown San Jose on Sunday. On Friday, President Obama helped keep the the story in the news with a statement on the case that spoke directly to his experience as an African American. (Watch that video here.) 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(Photo by Mario Tama/Getty Images) \" width=\"300\" height=\"202\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">SANFORD, Fla. — Trayvon Martin supporters march through downtown before the start of a town hall meeting regarding Martin’s death on March 26, 2012 in Sanford, Florida. (Photo by Mario Tama/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Protests over the George Zimmerman verdict continue — another was \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23705334/second-san-jose-protest-rally-and-march-from\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">held in downtown San Jose\u003c/a> on Sunday. On Friday, President Obama helped keep the the story in the news with a statement on the case that \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/07/19/203706929/obama-explains-black-america-to-white-america\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">spoke directly to his experience\u003c/a> as an African American. (\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MHBdZWbncXI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Watch that video here\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last week, on KQED Radio’s Forum show, Oakland civil rights attorney John Burris, active in many high-profile Bay Area cases; and former San Francisco prosecutor Jim Hammer answered questions about the case. Taken from that conversation …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On whether the U.S. Department of Justice will take up the prosecution of George Zimmerman on civil rights charges\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>John Burris said he had sent about 10 cases over the course of his career to the Department of Justice for prosecution, including the Oscar Grant shooting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To be honest with you, they always open an investigation,” Burris said. “But they never complete the investigation. So I don’t think it’s likely.”\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said that the NAACP and Al Sharpton advocating for federal involvement might put pressure on the DOJ, but given the facts of the case, prosecution was unlikely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because [Zimmerman’s] not a police officer, then it’s a question of if it’s a hate crime, and in order for that to be a hate crime, you have to have animus that demonstrates that this was done as a consequence of hate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Initially, there was an issue about whether or not he’d made some kind of racially derogatory comment, and that caused the Justice Department to be concerned. But once that wasn’t there, then it seems to me that you don’t have the kind of animus that you need. Plus, it has to be a specific intent crime. So you almost have a higher standard than we have here, in beyond a reasonable doubt. ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said that in a federal criminal civil rights investigation, Zimmerman could still invoke his Fifth Amendment rights and would not be forced to take the stand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What about a civil case by the family?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said Martin’s family could file a civil case, suing Zimmerman for money damages. In this kind of lawsuit, the burden of proof is much less strenuous; the family could win if only a preponderance of the evidence is judged to be on their side. Zimmerman could also be required to give a deposition and take the stand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the message from the verdict\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A caller from Oakland expressed concern about the ultimate message that the verdict sent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In my opinion, because what has happened, you have families now that are going to be living in fear,” the caller said. “[We have] a disabled son that we’re trying to teach independence to and he’ll be 12. And my daughter says to me, ‘I know you were thinking about allowing him to ride the bus home after school, and I don’t think you can do that anymore because it’s a possibility that he could leave home and never ever come back because he can be accosted by anyone and shot and killed.’ So the Florida courts have created a climate of fear.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jim Hammer said he shared the caller’s distress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The outcome of this is that George Zimmerman walks out, gets his gun back — there’s no reason, he hasn’t committed a crime — and could get in his van and patrol neighborhoods again. Its scary, its outrageous,” Hammer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer said he taught at a black high school in Watts, and that he “hung out for a year with Trayvon Martins, you know, 17-year-old African-American kids, the most wonderful kids. But when they hit that street, they’re seen by many people as suspects and criminals, and all the rest of it. Over half of them went to college, but people don’t see them that way, so it’s a horrifying thought what young black men are thinking after this verdict.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> Was Stand Your Ground relevant to the case?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zimmerman’s defense did not invoke Florida’s controversial stand-your-ground Law. But, as Hammer and others have pointed out, it influenced the initial investigation of the shooting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer said that “if you listen to [the investigator’s] testimony, [he said] ‘well in light of Florida’s law, I believe this guy, so I let him walk home that night.'”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(A New York Times \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/us/trayvon-martin-case-shadowed-by-police-missteps.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">investigation on the mishandling of the investigation by local police\u003c/a> said the stand-your-ground law “became the framework within which the police and prosecutors had to work after Mr. Zimmerman claimed that Mr. Martin confronted and pounced on him.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris pointed out that the jury instructions cited stand your ground. “So therefore the jury … could then use that in terms of an application,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can \u003ca href=\"http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2013/07/12/Zimmerman_Final_Jury_Instructions.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">read the jury instructions here\u003c/a>. They read, in part:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the question of race\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking about the initial investigation, Hammer said,”If you do the race reversal for a moment …\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>if it had been an African-American man shooting a 17-year-old freckled faced white kid, would the cops have sent the African-American home and said have a good night?\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>I don’t know. My gut says probably not. I can’t say that’s false but to say race plays no role in this is a bit naive I think.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the legal case\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said he was “dumbfounded” that the prosecution did not invoke the \u003ca href=\"http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/776.041\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Florida statute\u003c/a> that invalidates a self-defense justification if the person claiming it is the aggressor. (One prosecutor, in analyzing the case, told the \u003ca href=\"http://www.bradenton.com/2013/07/22/4619087/analysis-zimmermans-acquittal.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bradenton Herald\u003c/a> that Zimmerman’s pursuit of the unarmed Martin could be considered a threatened use of force that could have defined him legally that way.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer agreed. “What I thought was wrong here, was that you had the stand-your-ground argument there, but there should have been another instruction that said, ‘if you are the aggressor, then you cannot avail yourself of the stand-your-ground law.’ I think that might have been more helpful to the jury because then that would have given them some basis to consider that if George Zimmerman in fact touched, approached, aggravated, and started this, then he couldn’t say I got self-defense without showing that he had tried to retreat.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer said that there is too much burden on the prosecution in cases like these. “Part of the problem is the prosecution has to prove a negative …. He can literally sit back and say, ‘prove I’m a liar.’ And that’s almost an insurmountable hill to climb.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer suggested that considering that how the fight started is still an unknown, the jury’s not-guilty finding was legally correct. “By not knowing how the fight started, all we are left with is the end result, and the end result you get is … what you see in terms of George Zimmerman’s injuries and a witness that sort of suggests that George Zimmerman was losing a fight. And in that sense, the jury verdict is probably consistent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said there was only circumstantial evidence to disprove the defense’s claim that the shooting was self-defense, which proved to be a high hurdle to overcome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also said that the prosecution should have argued that Martin was actually the person standing his ground. “After all, he was the one being pursued,” he said. “That never was argued in any kind of way by the prosecution. The fact that he himself was standing his ground, and what \u003cem>he\u003c/em> had a right to do. And so, that’s what made it more challenging for the prosecution, because they didn’t take advantage of the opportunity that they had to make arguments, to make Trayvon Martin a more sympathetic person, and they allowed the defense to define Trayvon Martin in ways that were hurtful and easy for the jury to accept.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On six jurors versus 12\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Martin case had just six jurors. Hammer said that benefits the prosecution. “It’s certainly easier to get six to agree,” he said. “The danger of it … is when you get such a small group, the chance of not getting a diverse jury goes up exponentially. Out of 12, you have a good chance of getting an African-American or two. And again, once that jury was set, I think the die was somewhat cast, and the chance of people not having faith in the verdict went through the roof.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On whether the case was prosecuted competently\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Burris said he thought the prosecution saw that it was a tough case to win, but that public outrage and political pressure had forced their hand. “They kind of went through the motions,” he said. “I didn’t see the aggressive prosecution that I would have expected.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On untrained individuals confronting suspects\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hammer said things might have gone differently if a police officer had been the one who confronted Martin instead of Zimmerman. “I went through 2,000 hours of training,” he said. “I was a police commissioner in San Francisco and supervised, among other commissioners, 2,000 police officers. Police officers have many other means at their disposal just short of deadly force. They also wear a uniform … [A police officer] would have said, ‘son what are you doing here’ and hopefully it would have gone on its way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The idea that we have untrained [people] … muttering these sort of angry tirades [about] the police, driving around with guns and getting out of their cars is madness. I’m a big fan of well-trained police officers, and if we need more security, we should hire more of them. But we ought to get guns out of the hand of untrained police officers driving around, trying to be their own police officers.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/103630/more-on-the-trayvon-martin-case-stand-your-ground-civil-rights-prosecution-and-the-case-against-zimmerman","authors":["236"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6188","news_13","news_1397"],"tags":["news_2419","news_2162","news_4629"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_103976":{"type":"posts","id":"news_103976","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"103976","score":null,"sort":[1374168166000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"singer-kim-nalleys-powerful-new-song-about-trayvon-martin","title":"Singer Kim Nalley's Powerful New Song About Trayvon Martin","publishDate":1374168166,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"//www.youtube.com/embed/NaM7UHdu7s0\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"620\" height=\"400\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>By Cy Musiker\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_103589\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 200px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/07/15/zimmerman-verdict-trayvon-martin/trayvonmartinprotest-jpg/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-103589\">\u003cimg class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-103589 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/07/TrayvonMartinProtest.jpg-200x200.jpg\" alt=\"George Zimmerman was found not guilty of the murder of Trayvon Martin on July 13. (Scott Olson/Getty Images)\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">George Zimmerman was found not guilty of the murder of Trayvon Martin on July 13. (Scott Olson/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A Florida jury's recent acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin has triggered numerous demonstrations, of course, but it has also inspired some powerful artistic responses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here, singer Kim Nalley, known for her sophisticated blend of blues, jazz and soul, does more of a field holler, an original song that captures the many layers of emotional complexity in the Trayvon Martin story. I got chills watching it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nalley plays the Mendocino Music Festival Friday, and then she does four nights at Dizzy’s Club Coca Cola in New York as part of Jazz at Lincoln Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Listen to my recent interview with Nalley for KQED News.\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F101608509%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-9LqcD\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1374195954,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":8,"wordCount":137},"headData":{"title":"Singer Kim Nalley's Powerful New Song About Trayvon Martin | KQED","description":"By Cy Musiker A Florida jury's recent acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin has triggered numerous demonstrations, of course, but it has also inspired some powerful artistic responses. 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I got chills watching it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nalley plays the Mendocino Music Festival Friday, and then she does four nights at Dizzy’s Club Coca Cola in New York as part of Jazz at Lincoln Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Listen to my recent interview with Nalley for KQED News.\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F101608509%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-9LqcD\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/103976/singer-kim-nalleys-powerful-new-song-about-trayvon-martin","authors":["236"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_223","news_6188"],"tags":["news_2419","news_4610","news_2162","news_2418"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_103729":{"type":"posts","id":"news_103729","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"103729","score":null,"sort":[1374001255000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"jean-quan-on-police-response-to-oakland-protests-we-need-to-do-better","title":"Mayor Jean Quan on Police Response to Oakland Protests: 'We Need to Do Better'","publishDate":1374001255,"format":"aside","headTitle":"Mayor Jean Quan on Police Response to Oakland Protests: ‘We Need to Do Better’ | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_103731\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-103731 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/07/OaklandZimmermanProtest.jpg-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"A man cleans up in downtown Oakland after angry protests over the acquittal of George Zimmerman on Saturday night. (Francesca Segre/KQED)\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A man cleans up in downtown Oakland after angry protests over the acquittal of George Zimmerman on Saturday night. (Francesca Segre/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On KQED’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201307160900\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Forum program today\u003c/a>, Oakland Mayor Jean Quan and Acting Police Chief Sean Whent discussed the police response to \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/07/16/oakland-protests-trayvon-martin/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">protests in the city\u003c/a> over the George Zimmerman verdict. Last night, at least nine people were arrested, numerous acts of vandalism were committed, and a waiter who was trying to prevent masked protesters from smashing windows at the downtown restaurant Flora was attacked with what is reported to be a hammer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some may be wondering this morning why Oakland, once again, has been a particular target of protesters. One comment on the Forum website today:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t get it. Why do Oakland protests always seem to end up destroying businesses in their own community?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And another:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What responsibility, if any, does Mayor Quan take for the ineffective response to these ‘protests’ over the last two years? Certainly other cities deal with this effectively all the time.” \u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others, though, may think Quan and the OPD are caught in a damned-if-they-do-damned-if-they-don’t dilemma. San Francisco Chronicle reporter Demian Bulwa, who was covering the protests, said on today’s show that while police were hanging back and definitely did not have control of the situation, they have been criticized in the past for escalating confrontations with demonstrators. In fact, just two weeks ago, the City Council \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23589592/oakland-approves-1-million-occupy-settlement\">approved a $1.17 million settlement\u003c/a> with 12 Occupy Oakland participants who were injured during two 2011 protests by beanbags or flash-bang grenades. A couple of weeks before that, both Oakland and Alameda County agreed to pay $1 million in damages to arrestees who were protesting the sentence of Johannes Mehserle in 2010 for the shooting death of Oscar Grant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Evidence in the case showed that the Oakland Police Department violated a 2004 court order concerning the handling of large numbers of protesters,” the \u003ca href=\"http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/oakland-and-alameda-county-agree-to-pay-oscar-grant-protesters-1-million/Content?oid=3619442\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">East Bay Express\u003c/a> wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And of course, OPD is now \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/07/16/jean-quan-oakland-protests-trayvon-martin/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">overseen by an outsider\u003c/a>, an appointment made as part of a deal to avoid an unprecedented federal takeover due to lack of compliance with reforms mandated in a settlement over the Riders police misconduct case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Acting Police Chief Whent said on today’s show that the lawsuits had nothing to do with the department’s lack of aggressive action during the recent protests. “You try to not provoke and to not get hurt,” he said. “Our focus is safety over property. … We’re going to review what happened. I think we probably could do better.” He said the crowd was very dispersed and hitting a lot of different areas, thwarting an effective response. Whent acknowledged that staffing was inadequate on Saturday, after news of the verdict broke, but said that on Sunday, “we planned better.” Last night, he said, “we staffed similar to how we did on Sunday expecting the same type of crowd, but obviously it was a different type of crowd that showed up.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Quan also said “we need to do better,” and that there would be a review of the police response. The mayor said the decision to devote more police resources to demonstrations is not an easy calculation. “When we do that, we have to take police out of our community. (That’s) something we need to weigh every day and every event.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The mayor made a distinction between “real demonstrators” and the masked vandals who have been rearing their heads at the end of protests. “There are people who were peacefully and legitimately demonstrating and (the vandals) consistently hide within these crowds,” she said. “People who are from Oakland who do regular demonstrations actually have … as much security to keep people they don’t know out of their demonstrations as to actually doing the demonstration. These protests have been much more spontaneous and a lot less well organized. It’s frustrating to the organizers of the demonstrations, too.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Quan characterized the violent protesters as coming from outside Oakland. “They obviously don’t know the city very well,” she said, citing the vandalism of two well-respected local nonprofits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Oakland Tribune held a \u003ca href=\"http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_23664082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">live chat\u003c/a> today with Paul Junge of the Oakland Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce, discussing how the local business community feels about the vandalism and the city’s response. He said, among other things, “There is frustration that the events happen again and again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201307160900\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cem>Listen to the show\u003c/em>\u003c/a> …\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1685487476,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":17,"wordCount":792},"headData":{"title":"Mayor Jean Quan on Police Response to Oakland Protests: 'We Need to Do Better' | KQED","description":"On KQED's Forum program today, Oakland Mayor Jean Quan and Acting Police Chief Sean Whent discussed the police response to protests in the city over the George Zimmerman verdict. 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(Francesca Segre/KQED)\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A man cleans up in downtown Oakland after angry protests over the acquittal of George Zimmerman on Saturday night. (Francesca Segre/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On KQED’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201307160900\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Forum program today\u003c/a>, Oakland Mayor Jean Quan and Acting Police Chief Sean Whent discussed the police response to \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/07/16/oakland-protests-trayvon-martin/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">protests in the city\u003c/a> over the George Zimmerman verdict. Last night, at least nine people were arrested, numerous acts of vandalism were committed, and a waiter who was trying to prevent masked protesters from smashing windows at the downtown restaurant Flora was attacked with what is reported to be a hammer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some may be wondering this morning why Oakland, once again, has been a particular target of protesters. One comment on the Forum website today:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t get it. Why do Oakland protests always seem to end up destroying businesses in their own community?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And another:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What responsibility, if any, does Mayor Quan take for the ineffective response to these ‘protests’ over the last two years? Certainly other cities deal with this effectively all the time.” \u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others, though, may think Quan and the OPD are caught in a damned-if-they-do-damned-if-they-don’t dilemma. San Francisco Chronicle reporter Demian Bulwa, who was covering the protests, said on today’s show that while police were hanging back and definitely did not have control of the situation, they have been criticized in the past for escalating confrontations with demonstrators. In fact, just two weeks ago, the City Council \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23589592/oakland-approves-1-million-occupy-settlement\">approved a $1.17 million settlement\u003c/a> with 12 Occupy Oakland participants who were injured during two 2011 protests by beanbags or flash-bang grenades. A couple of weeks before that, both Oakland and Alameda County agreed to pay $1 million in damages to arrestees who were protesting the sentence of Johannes Mehserle in 2010 for the shooting death of Oscar Grant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Evidence in the case showed that the Oakland Police Department violated a 2004 court order concerning the handling of large numbers of protesters,” the \u003ca href=\"http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/oakland-and-alameda-county-agree-to-pay-oscar-grant-protesters-1-million/Content?oid=3619442\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">East Bay Express\u003c/a> wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And of course, OPD is now \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/07/16/jean-quan-oakland-protests-trayvon-martin/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">overseen by an outsider\u003c/a>, an appointment made as part of a deal to avoid an unprecedented federal takeover due to lack of compliance with reforms mandated in a settlement over the Riders police misconduct case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Acting Police Chief Whent said on today’s show that the lawsuits had nothing to do with the department’s lack of aggressive action during the recent protests. “You try to not provoke and to not get hurt,” he said. “Our focus is safety over property. … We’re going to review what happened. I think we probably could do better.” He said the crowd was very dispersed and hitting a lot of different areas, thwarting an effective response. Whent acknowledged that staffing was inadequate on Saturday, after news of the verdict broke, but said that on Sunday, “we planned better.” Last night, he said, “we staffed similar to how we did on Sunday expecting the same type of crowd, but obviously it was a different type of crowd that showed up.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Quan also said “we need to do better,” and that there would be a review of the police response. The mayor said the decision to devote more police resources to demonstrations is not an easy calculation. “When we do that, we have to take police out of our community. (That’s) something we need to weigh every day and every event.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The mayor made a distinction between “real demonstrators” and the masked vandals who have been rearing their heads at the end of protests. “There are people who were peacefully and legitimately demonstrating and (the vandals) consistently hide within these crowds,” she said. “People who are from Oakland who do regular demonstrations actually have … as much security to keep people they don’t know out of their demonstrations as to actually doing the demonstration. These protests have been much more spontaneous and a lot less well organized. It’s frustrating to the organizers of the demonstrations, too.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Quan characterized the violent protesters as coming from outside Oakland. “They obviously don’t know the city very well,” she said, citing the vandalism of two well-respected local nonprofits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Oakland Tribune held a \u003ca href=\"http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_23664082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">live chat\u003c/a> today with Paul Junge of the Oakland Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce, discussing how the local business community feels about the vandalism and the city’s response. He said, among other things, “There is frustration that the events happen again and again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201307160900\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cem>Listen to the show\u003c/em>\u003c/a> …\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/103729/jean-quan-on-police-response-to-oakland-protests-we-need-to-do-better","authors":["80"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6188"],"tags":["news_2419","news_18","news_416","news_2162","news_2418"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_103573":{"type":"posts","id":"news_103573","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"103573","score":null,"sort":[1373917538000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"in-bay-area-reaction-to-zimmerman-verdict-ranges-from-sadness-to-resignation-to-anger","title":"In Bay Area, Sadness, Resignation and Anger at Zimmerman Verdict","publishDate":1373917538,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>After a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin Saturday night, people took to the streets across the country in the thousands, according to AP, \"chanting, praying and fighting tears.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_103603\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-103603 \" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/07/zimmermanprotest-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"Oakland Police watches the crowd protesting the George Zimmerman verdict July 13 after other police officers emptied a fire extinguisher but failed to put out a trashcan fire. (Photo: Alex Emslie/KQED)\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland police officer watches the crowd protesting the George Zimmerman verdict July 13 after other officers emptied a fire extinguisher but failed to put out a trashcan fire. (Photo: Alex Emslie/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"Rallies on Sunday were largely peaceful as demonstrators voiced their support for 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's family and decried the verdict. Police in Los Angeles said they arrested six people, mostly for failure to disperse, after about 80 protesters gathered in Hollywood on Sunset Boulevard and an unlawful assembly was declared. New York police said at least a dozen people were arrested on disorderly conduct charges during a rally in Times Square.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the Bay Area, about 50 demonstrators congregated in front of City Hall Sunday night, the Bay Area News Group reported. In San Francisco Saturday night, after the verdict was announced, \"demonstrators marched through the Mission District after gathering at the 24th Street Mission BART Station,\" the \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Windows-smashed-flags-burned-in-Oakland-protest-4664343.php\" target=\"_blank\">Chronicle wrote\u003c/a>. \"Hundreds marched down Valencia Street, chanting 'Justice for Trayvon Martin.' The crowd dispersed peacefully ....\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not so in Oakland. The \u003ca href=\"http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_23660584/protests-and-debate-just-beginning-acquittal-trayvon-martin\" target=\"_blank\">Bay Area News Group wrote\u003c/a> ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Protesters beat one man in a Broadway doorway near Frank H. Ogawa Plaza until other protesters ended the skirmish. The man was helped to his feet and did not appear seriously injured.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other protesters took out their frustration on buildings. Sears, the Oakland Tribune, several banks and at least two restaurants all had windows broken. A BART police car was vandalized, and several garbage bins were overturned and set ablaze. Police made no arrests during the protest, which drew about 100 people.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED's Alex Emslie covered that protest in Downtown Oakland. He said after the initial march, masked protesters walked down both sides of the streets smashing every window on several blocks. One of the businesses hit was Dogwood bar. \"This isn’t productive,\" said the bar's manager, Issa Eismont. \"It’s not productive at all. It hurts Oakland. It makes us look bad. It gives us a bad reputation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Emslie said there was no visible police presence for most of the protest, and that during the window smashing, police were out of sight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Sunday, Oakland Mayor Jean Quan addressed the reaction to the verdict. From Quan's statement:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Trayvon's tragic death and the subsequent trial have raised powerful, incredibly difficult issues that affect us all. Racial profiling in particular is an ongoing problem in our society and it is absolutely unacceptable, here in Oakland and across the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland is a community that grapples with many of these issues. I know many of us are living with hard emotions as we continue working toward solutions in the wake of the verdict.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A small group of people gathered in downtown Oakland last night. Sadly, some of them dishonored the memory of Trayvon by engaging in violent activities that hurt our growing economy and endangered people. This is unacceptable as well. We will not tolerate violence in our city.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, protesters expressed anger, sadness and resignation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I’m not surprised with the acquittal,\" Lisa Evans told Emslie. \"I’m extremely disappointed and I’m very frustrated and I’m very angry, but I don’t think I’m particularly surprised, which is sad.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This country's in a state of emergency right now,\" said Preston Walker. \"We’re really mourning Trayvon now. Because it’s like he died last year, but it’s like today is the day of his homecoming. His funeral is today, with that verdict.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This verdict just represents what’s been going on in this country for years, for hundreds of years,\" said Sarai Bordeaux. \"Case after case after case after case. Emett Till, Oscar Grant, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X. All of our black men .... Of course it sends a message that this country does not care what happens to black and brown people.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And from Mubarak Ahmad: \"They don't have to look way in Florida. Look at Oakland. Look at the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/10/03/after-raucous-city-council-meeting-reid-hands-police-report-to-blueford-family-redacted/\" target=\"_blank\">Alan Blueford shooting\u003c/a>…. Yesterday was the opening of Oscar Grant, \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/arts/movies/article.jsp?essid=123209\" target=\"_blank\">Fruitvale\u003c/a>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"//www.youtube.com/embed/N0dAZ9bsE2U\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wasn't the only one to make the connection between Trayvon Martin and Oscar Grant. As \u003ca href=\"http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/fruitvale-station-star-michael-b-jordan-speaks-out-on-zimmerman-not-guilty-verdict-my-heart-hurts-so-bad-right-now/\" target=\"_blank\">reported on Deadline.com\u003c/a> Saturday, Michael B. Jordan, who played Grant in \"Fruitvale Station,\" said this at a Q&A after a screening of the film in LA Saturday night:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>I want to hear your questions tonight and answer them. But if you could keep it away from Trayvon, I think my opinion on that is not going to help anybody right now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My heart hurts so bad right now. I wasn’t going to come after I found out about George Zimmerman getting acquitted. It broke me up. That’s why I think this film means so much, because it keeps happening again and again. [We must] learn how to treat each other better and stop judging one another just because we’re different. It’s not just a black and white thing, it’s a people thing. It’s the only way that things are going to take the necessary steps to move in the right direction so things can get better because I don’t think it’s ever gonna stop, but something’s gotta f*****g change.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Finally, this incredible item out of Hayward on Saturday. Lester Chambers of the legendary Chambers Brothers was attacked on stage after dedicating a song to Trayvon Martin. From \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23659522/hayward-woman-allegedly-attacks-73-year-old-musician\" target=\"_blank\">Bay Area News Group\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>A woman was arrested Saturday after allegedly jumping on stage at a music festival and attacking a legendary musician after he dedicated a song to Trayvon Martin, according to police and eyewitnesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The woman, who police identified as 43-year-old Dinalynn Andrews Potter of Barstow, apparently yelled, \"it's all your fault\" before shoving 73-year-old Lester Chambers, his family said Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"She had a crazed look in her eye,\" said Kurt Kangas, a friend of Chambers who ran to his aid. \"I saw the devil there.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chambers was performing at the Hayward Russell City Blues Festival downtown when around 5:15 p.m. he dedicated Curtis Mayfield's hit \"People Get Ready\" to Martin, the 17-year-old shot and killed by George Zimmerman. \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23659522/hayward-woman-allegedly-attacks-73-year-old-musician\" target=\"_blank\">Full story\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Potter was booked by Hayward police on suspicion of battery.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1374379606,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":30,"wordCount":1114},"headData":{"title":"In Bay Area, Sadness, Resignation and Anger at Zimmerman Verdict | KQED","description":"After a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin Saturday night, people took to the streets across the country in the thousands, according to AP, "chanting, praying and fighting tears." 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(Photo: Alex Emslie/KQED)\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland police officer watches the crowd protesting the George Zimmerman verdict July 13 after other officers emptied a fire extinguisher but failed to put out a trashcan fire. (Photo: Alex Emslie/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"Rallies on Sunday were largely peaceful as demonstrators voiced their support for 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's family and decried the verdict. Police in Los Angeles said they arrested six people, mostly for failure to disperse, after about 80 protesters gathered in Hollywood on Sunset Boulevard and an unlawful assembly was declared. New York police said at least a dozen people were arrested on disorderly conduct charges during a rally in Times Square.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the Bay Area, about 50 demonstrators congregated in front of City Hall Sunday night, the Bay Area News Group reported. In San Francisco Saturday night, after the verdict was announced, \"demonstrators marched through the Mission District after gathering at the 24th Street Mission BART Station,\" the \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Windows-smashed-flags-burned-in-Oakland-protest-4664343.php\" target=\"_blank\">Chronicle wrote\u003c/a>. \"Hundreds marched down Valencia Street, chanting 'Justice for Trayvon Martin.' The crowd dispersed peacefully ....\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not so in Oakland. The \u003ca href=\"http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_23660584/protests-and-debate-just-beginning-acquittal-trayvon-martin\" target=\"_blank\">Bay Area News Group wrote\u003c/a> ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Protesters beat one man in a Broadway doorway near Frank H. Ogawa Plaza until other protesters ended the skirmish. The man was helped to his feet and did not appear seriously injured.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other protesters took out their frustration on buildings. Sears, the Oakland Tribune, several banks and at least two restaurants all had windows broken. A BART police car was vandalized, and several garbage bins were overturned and set ablaze. Police made no arrests during the protest, which drew about 100 people.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED's Alex Emslie covered that protest in Downtown Oakland. He said after the initial march, masked protesters walked down both sides of the streets smashing every window on several blocks. One of the businesses hit was Dogwood bar. \"This isn’t productive,\" said the bar's manager, Issa Eismont. \"It’s not productive at all. It hurts Oakland. It makes us look bad. It gives us a bad reputation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Emslie said there was no visible police presence for most of the protest, and that during the window smashing, police were out of sight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Sunday, Oakland Mayor Jean Quan addressed the reaction to the verdict. From Quan's statement:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Trayvon's tragic death and the subsequent trial have raised powerful, incredibly difficult issues that affect us all. Racial profiling in particular is an ongoing problem in our society and it is absolutely unacceptable, here in Oakland and across the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland is a community that grapples with many of these issues. I know many of us are living with hard emotions as we continue working toward solutions in the wake of the verdict.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A small group of people gathered in downtown Oakland last night. Sadly, some of them dishonored the memory of Trayvon by engaging in violent activities that hurt our growing economy and endangered people. This is unacceptable as well. We will not tolerate violence in our city.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, protesters expressed anger, sadness and resignation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I’m not surprised with the acquittal,\" Lisa Evans told Emslie. \"I’m extremely disappointed and I’m very frustrated and I’m very angry, but I don’t think I’m particularly surprised, which is sad.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This country's in a state of emergency right now,\" said Preston Walker. \"We’re really mourning Trayvon now. Because it’s like he died last year, but it’s like today is the day of his homecoming. His funeral is today, with that verdict.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This verdict just represents what’s been going on in this country for years, for hundreds of years,\" said Sarai Bordeaux. \"Case after case after case after case. Emett Till, Oscar Grant, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X. All of our black men .... Of course it sends a message that this country does not care what happens to black and brown people.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And from Mubarak Ahmad: \"They don't have to look way in Florida. Look at Oakland. Look at the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/10/03/after-raucous-city-council-meeting-reid-hands-police-report-to-blueford-family-redacted/\" target=\"_blank\">Alan Blueford shooting\u003c/a>…. Yesterday was the opening of Oscar Grant, \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/arts/movies/article.jsp?essid=123209\" target=\"_blank\">Fruitvale\u003c/a>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"//www.youtube.com/embed/N0dAZ9bsE2U\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wasn't the only one to make the connection between Trayvon Martin and Oscar Grant. As \u003ca href=\"http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/fruitvale-station-star-michael-b-jordan-speaks-out-on-zimmerman-not-guilty-verdict-my-heart-hurts-so-bad-right-now/\" target=\"_blank\">reported on Deadline.com\u003c/a> Saturday, Michael B. Jordan, who played Grant in \"Fruitvale Station,\" said this at a Q&A after a screening of the film in LA Saturday night:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>I want to hear your questions tonight and answer them. But if you could keep it away from Trayvon, I think my opinion on that is not going to help anybody right now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My heart hurts so bad right now. I wasn’t going to come after I found out about George Zimmerman getting acquitted. It broke me up. That’s why I think this film means so much, because it keeps happening again and again. [We must] learn how to treat each other better and stop judging one another just because we’re different. It’s not just a black and white thing, it’s a people thing. 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