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He lives just outside Atlanta with his husband Monte, his dog Amelie, and their cat Hollow. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The dining room is decorated with a photo gallery wall of family — his husband dancing with his mother at their wedding and pictures of the couple. But it took a long time and work to get to a place where Nunn said he accepted and loved himself. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a gay man, Nunn said, his father tried to change him. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I was 15, my parents found a men's workout magazine that I had and drew their own conclusions,\" he said. \"My dad told me we were going to go on a trip and didn't tell me where we were going.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the way to their mystery destination, Nunn's father turned to him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He said he was going to take me to a therapy center to deal with whatever weird sexual stuff I had going on,\" Nunn said. \"If it didn't work, he was going to send me to military school to make a man out of me.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In that moment, everything he knew felt threatened: his relationship with his parents, his home, his social circle. He said that every day for two weeks at a therapy center in Iowa, licensed mental health professionals told him that what he was feeling was sinful, that he needed to change or his soul was in jeopardy, that he was broken. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What Nunn was going through was conversion therapy, also known as reparative therapy. It is a widely discredited practice aimed at changing a person's sexual orientation or gender identity. In most of the country, the therapy is still legal for minors. But advocacy groups are trying to change that by pushing legislation in statehouses across the country to ban licensed mental health professionals from practicing conversion therapy on minors. So far 16 states, Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico have banned the practice. Colorado is expected to sign a ban into law soon. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Nunn is trying to help get it passed in Georgia where \u003ca href=\"http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20192020/HB/580\">House Bill 580\u003c/a> was recently introduced. He's supporting the bill to help other young people avoid the trauma he lived through. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Conversion therapy is something that at its core is telling somebody that there's something fundamentally broken with them and not only can it be fixed, it needs to be fixed,\" Nunn said in his living room. \"That's a lot of trauma, especially for somebody that's 15 years old or 10 years old or however old.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Suicide as a side effect\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At 15, Nunn was convinced he needed to be \"fixed.\" When he wasn't, he tried to take his life in the woods behind a friend's house. A note in his pocket said, \"God forgive me.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His suicide attempt is an all-too-frequent side effect of conversion therapy. LGBT youth are already much more likely to try to take their life than their peers are. But kids whose parents try to change their sexual orientation \u003ca href=\"https://familyproject.sfsu.edu/conversion-therapy-begins-at-home\">attempt suicide at more than double the rate\u003c/a> of their LGBT peers; the suicide rate is nearly triple among young people who also deal with intervention from \"therapists and religious leaders.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matthew Wilson, a Democratic state representative in Georgia, introduced the legislation in a majority Republican State House. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I specifically asked just for a hearing this year, no vote, so that we could use this year as an educational moment to really raise awareness about the need for this and how there really is no controversy here, people really aren't opposing this, at least not in Georgia,\" he said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill has the same language as other bills that have passed or introduced. It would bar mental health professionals in the state from practicing conversion therapy on minors. When people turn 18, they can put themselves through conversion therapy.\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>If passed, the law wouldn't interfere with clergy and religious counseling. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's been an outcry, not just from the victims and the LGBTQ community,\" Wilson said. \"But from the medical professionals who say this is not medicine and not only is it not medicine but the harm is very real and lasts a lifetime.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Medical and mental health professions decry practice\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nearly 700,000 adults have gone through conversion therapy, some half of them as minors, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Conversion-Therapy-LGBT-Youth-Jan-2018.pdf\">2018 study \u003c/a>from The Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of medical and mental health associations list the practice as something that doesn't work and is harmful. The \u003ca href=\"https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/just-the-facts\">American Psychological Association\u003c/a> says conversion therapy has \"serious potential to harm young people because they present the view that the sexual orientation of lesbian, gay and bisexual youth is a mental illness or disorder, and they often frame the inability to change one's sexual orientation as a personal and moral failure.\u003csup>\"\u003c/sup>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The American Psychiatric Association says ethical practitioners shouldn't try to change someone's sexuality because of their responsibility to do no harm. In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.hrc.org/resources/policy-and-position-statements-on-conversion-therapy\">position statement in 2000\u003c/a>, the association wrote that, after four decades, practitioners of \"reparative\" therapy, \"have not produced any rigorous scientific research to substantiate their claims of cure,\" meanwhile there are \"anecdotal claims of psychological harm.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So national organizations like the \u003ca href=\"https://afsp.org/\">American Foundation for Suicide Prevention \u003c/a>and \u003ca href=\"https://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-involved/trevor-advocacy/50-bills-50-states/#sm.0000l6fe581d7pf4xuvie6tiawg92\">The Trevor Project\u003c/a> are trying to get this legislation passed in all 50 states. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Conversion therapy can be a lot of different things\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Sometimes this takes the form of religious prayer. This is where you get the 'pray the gay away' kind of concept,\" said Sam Brinton, the head of advocacy and government affairs for the Trevor Project. \"Sometimes this takes the form of talk therapy where a person may be sitting on a couch and thinking that their mother was overbearing or their father was distant and this is what made them gay ... and then in some rare cases, there is a version of this therapy where people try to attach a negative stimulus to an action.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brinton went through the most extreme version, electroshock therapy so that they would hate \"any connection that I had to my homosexuality.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of these practices can lead to depression, self-harm and, in some cases, suicide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's really important that we recognize that parents are actually being lied to here,\" Brinton said. \"So although I want to support a parent's ability to raise their child as they see fit, we still have protections in this country that protect youth from harm despite any objections of the parent. And we also have laws that make sure that parents shouldn't be lied to or defrauded by these snake oil salesmen.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the most well-known national organizations providing conversion therapy, \u003ca href=\"https://www.firststone.org/articles/post/concerning-our-transition-from-exodus-international-to-restored-hope-network\">Exodus International\u003c/a>, disbanded after the president, Alan Chambers, disavowed the therapy in 2012 and apologized for any harm or pain it had caused. John Paulk, a known advocate of conversion therapy and of the \"ex-gay\" movement, came out in 2013 and disavowed the therapy. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But not everyone is on board with legislation to ban the practice. \u003ca href=\"https://www.lc.org\">Liberty Counsel\u003c/a>, an evangelical Christian group, is trying to stop the bans through the courts. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The counselors that we work with, they try to respect the wishes of the client and the client is that minor. It's not the parents, it's the client and that's who they have the responsibility to,\" said Mat Staver, the head of Liberty Counsel. \"And some of those particular clients want to be affirmed in these attractions. Others want to overcome those attractions or live with them but ultimately not engage in certain desires that they may have. So they work with those clients on an individual basis.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Staver says conversion therapy bans are a violation of free speech for counselors and a minor's right to \"self-autonomy.\" He takes issue with the term \"conversion therapy\" calling it a politicized term used to conjure up dangerous images of what goes on in this type of counseling. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's no other area in counseling where the government has barged into the private counseling room and this should be no exception,\" he said. \"And it's just a matter of time before the High Court expressly overrules all these cases and all these laws.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recently, the Supreme Court declined to take a case that would have challenged the conversion therapy ban in New Jersey. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates of the ban say that if a practice is deemed harmful or abusive to children in other cases, the state does intervene.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Embracing the journey\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The depth of that harm is something Greg and Lynn McDonald, of Johns Creek, Ga., say they didn't understand when they found out their son, Greg, was gay. They describe themselves as conservative Christians and were worried that their son was committing a sin. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We thought that Greg somehow missed something along the way and that if he had someone to walk with and talk with in regards to it, he'd see and desire to be heterosexual,\" Lynn McDonald said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, at that time, when their 34-year-old son was 17, they met with a counselor about conversion therapy, which is legal in Michigan where they lived at the time and in Georgia. If it had been illegal, things might have been different. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It would have made me really pause to know that it's illegal to do that to a minor,\" Greg said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their son refused conversion therapy, and they didn't force him. It took a few years, but Greg and Lynn say that they realized they couldn't change him and that, as Christians, they shouldn't try to change him. They found that answer, they said, in the Bible. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As a Christian not only am I not supposed to shun my child, I'm actually supposed to love my child and not only supposed to, I'm commanded to.\" Lynn McDonald said. \"It's the greatest commandment.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, they say, they're ashamed that they ever considered conversion therapy. But when they found out their son was gay, they didn't know how to handle it and they felt isolated in their community. It's why they started a nonprofit, \u003ca href=\"https://www.embracingthejourney.org\">Embracing the Journey\u003c/a>, aimed at helping other conservative Christians who feel alone as parents of LGBTQ kids. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They are supporters of a conversion therapy ban. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Before anybody even thinks about sending their son or daughter to one of these places,\"\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>Lynn McDonald said, \"they have to be so educated in understanding what this can do to your child for the rest of their lives what kind of pain that can bring.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Activists+And+Suicide+Prevention+Groups+Seek+Bans+On+Conversion+Therapy+For+Minors+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Conversion therapy aims to change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity. The practice is discredited by mental health professionals and is linked to higher rates of suicide. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1556383284,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":46,"wordCount":1800},"headData":{"title":"Activists and Suicide Prevention Groups Seek Bans on Conversion Therapy for Minors | KQED","description":"Conversion therapy aims to change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity. The practice is discredited by mental health professionals and is linked to higher rates of suicide. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11743312 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11743312","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/04/27/activists-and-suicide-prevention-groups-seek-bans-on-conversion-therapy-for-minors/","disqusTitle":"Activists and Suicide Prevention Groups Seek Bans on Conversion Therapy for Minors","nprImageCredit":"Leila Fadel","nprByline":"Leila Fadel","nprImageAgency":"NPR","nprStoryId":"716416764","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=716416764&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2019/04/26/716416764/activists-and-suicide-prevention-groups-seek-bans-on-conversion-therapy-for-mino?ft=nprml&f=716416764","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:01:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Fri, 26 Apr 2019 05:06:00 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:01:54 -0400","nprAudio":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2019/04/20190426_me_activists_and_suicide_prevention_groups_seek_bans_on_conversion_therapy_for_minors_.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1003&d=323&p=3&story=716416764&ft=nprml&f=716416764","nprAudioM3u":"http://api.npr.org/m3u/1717389611-386d8a.m3u?orgId=1&topicId=1003&d=323&p=3&story=716416764&ft=nprml&f=716416764","audioTrackLength":324,"path":"/news/11743312/activists-and-suicide-prevention-groups-seek-bans-on-conversion-therapy-for-minors","audioUrl":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2019/04/20190426_me_activists_and_suicide_prevention_groups_seek_bans_on_conversion_therapy_for_minors_.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1003&d=323&p=3&story=716416764&ft=nprml&f=716416764","parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Peter Nunn is 32 and he's happy. He lives just outside Atlanta with his husband Monte, his dog Amelie, and their cat Hollow. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The dining room is decorated with a photo gallery wall of family — his husband dancing with his mother at their wedding and pictures of the couple. But it took a long time and work to get to a place where Nunn said he accepted and loved himself. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a gay man, Nunn said, his father tried to change him. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I was 15, my parents found a men's workout magazine that I had and drew their own conclusions,\" he said. \"My dad told me we were going to go on a trip and didn't tell me where we were going.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the way to their mystery destination, Nunn's father turned to him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He said he was going to take me to a therapy center to deal with whatever weird sexual stuff I had going on,\" Nunn said. \"If it didn't work, he was going to send me to military school to make a man out of me.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In that moment, everything he knew felt threatened: his relationship with his parents, his home, his social circle. He said that every day for two weeks at a therapy center in Iowa, licensed mental health professionals told him that what he was feeling was sinful, that he needed to change or his soul was in jeopardy, that he was broken. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What Nunn was going through was conversion therapy, also known as reparative therapy. It is a widely discredited practice aimed at changing a person's sexual orientation or gender identity. In most of the country, the therapy is still legal for minors. But advocacy groups are trying to change that by pushing legislation in statehouses across the country to ban licensed mental health professionals from practicing conversion therapy on minors. So far 16 states, Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico have banned the practice. Colorado is expected to sign a ban into law soon. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Nunn is trying to help get it passed in Georgia where \u003ca href=\"http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20192020/HB/580\">House Bill 580\u003c/a> was recently introduced. He's supporting the bill to help other young people avoid the trauma he lived through. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Conversion therapy is something that at its core is telling somebody that there's something fundamentally broken with them and not only can it be fixed, it needs to be fixed,\" Nunn said in his living room. \"That's a lot of trauma, especially for somebody that's 15 years old or 10 years old or however old.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Suicide as a side effect\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At 15, Nunn was convinced he needed to be \"fixed.\" When he wasn't, he tried to take his life in the woods behind a friend's house. A note in his pocket said, \"God forgive me.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His suicide attempt is an all-too-frequent side effect of conversion therapy. LGBT youth are already much more likely to try to take their life than their peers are. But kids whose parents try to change their sexual orientation \u003ca href=\"https://familyproject.sfsu.edu/conversion-therapy-begins-at-home\">attempt suicide at more than double the rate\u003c/a> of their LGBT peers; the suicide rate is nearly triple among young people who also deal with intervention from \"therapists and religious leaders.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matthew Wilson, a Democratic state representative in Georgia, introduced the legislation in a majority Republican State House. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I specifically asked just for a hearing this year, no vote, so that we could use this year as an educational moment to really raise awareness about the need for this and how there really is no controversy here, people really aren't opposing this, at least not in Georgia,\" he said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill has the same language as other bills that have passed or introduced. It would bar mental health professionals in the state from practicing conversion therapy on minors. When people turn 18, they can put themselves through conversion therapy.\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>If passed, the law wouldn't interfere with clergy and religious counseling. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's been an outcry, not just from the victims and the LGBTQ community,\" Wilson said. \"But from the medical professionals who say this is not medicine and not only is it not medicine but the harm is very real and lasts a lifetime.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Medical and mental health professions decry practice\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nearly 700,000 adults have gone through conversion therapy, some half of them as minors, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Conversion-Therapy-LGBT-Youth-Jan-2018.pdf\">2018 study \u003c/a>from The Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of medical and mental health associations list the practice as something that doesn't work and is harmful. The \u003ca href=\"https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/just-the-facts\">American Psychological Association\u003c/a> says conversion therapy has \"serious potential to harm young people because they present the view that the sexual orientation of lesbian, gay and bisexual youth is a mental illness or disorder, and they often frame the inability to change one's sexual orientation as a personal and moral failure.\u003csup>\"\u003c/sup>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The American Psychiatric Association says ethical practitioners shouldn't try to change someone's sexuality because of their responsibility to do no harm. In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.hrc.org/resources/policy-and-position-statements-on-conversion-therapy\">position statement in 2000\u003c/a>, the association wrote that, after four decades, practitioners of \"reparative\" therapy, \"have not produced any rigorous scientific research to substantiate their claims of cure,\" meanwhile there are \"anecdotal claims of psychological harm.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So national organizations like the \u003ca href=\"https://afsp.org/\">American Foundation for Suicide Prevention \u003c/a>and \u003ca href=\"https://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-involved/trevor-advocacy/50-bills-50-states/#sm.0000l6fe581d7pf4xuvie6tiawg92\">The Trevor Project\u003c/a> are trying to get this legislation passed in all 50 states. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Conversion therapy can be a lot of different things\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Sometimes this takes the form of religious prayer. This is where you get the 'pray the gay away' kind of concept,\" said Sam Brinton, the head of advocacy and government affairs for the Trevor Project. \"Sometimes this takes the form of talk therapy where a person may be sitting on a couch and thinking that their mother was overbearing or their father was distant and this is what made them gay ... and then in some rare cases, there is a version of this therapy where people try to attach a negative stimulus to an action.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brinton went through the most extreme version, electroshock therapy so that they would hate \"any connection that I had to my homosexuality.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of these practices can lead to depression, self-harm and, in some cases, suicide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's really important that we recognize that parents are actually being lied to here,\" Brinton said. \"So although I want to support a parent's ability to raise their child as they see fit, we still have protections in this country that protect youth from harm despite any objections of the parent. And we also have laws that make sure that parents shouldn't be lied to or defrauded by these snake oil salesmen.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the most well-known national organizations providing conversion therapy, \u003ca href=\"https://www.firststone.org/articles/post/concerning-our-transition-from-exodus-international-to-restored-hope-network\">Exodus International\u003c/a>, disbanded after the president, Alan Chambers, disavowed the therapy in 2012 and apologized for any harm or pain it had caused. John Paulk, a known advocate of conversion therapy and of the \"ex-gay\" movement, came out in 2013 and disavowed the therapy. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But not everyone is on board with legislation to ban the practice. \u003ca href=\"https://www.lc.org\">Liberty Counsel\u003c/a>, an evangelical Christian group, is trying to stop the bans through the courts. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The counselors that we work with, they try to respect the wishes of the client and the client is that minor. It's not the parents, it's the client and that's who they have the responsibility to,\" said Mat Staver, the head of Liberty Counsel. \"And some of those particular clients want to be affirmed in these attractions. Others want to overcome those attractions or live with them but ultimately not engage in certain desires that they may have. So they work with those clients on an individual basis.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Staver says conversion therapy bans are a violation of free speech for counselors and a minor's right to \"self-autonomy.\" He takes issue with the term \"conversion therapy\" calling it a politicized term used to conjure up dangerous images of what goes on in this type of counseling. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's no other area in counseling where the government has barged into the private counseling room and this should be no exception,\" he said. \"And it's just a matter of time before the High Court expressly overrules all these cases and all these laws.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recently, the Supreme Court declined to take a case that would have challenged the conversion therapy ban in New Jersey. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates of the ban say that if a practice is deemed harmful or abusive to children in other cases, the state does intervene.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Embracing the journey\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The depth of that harm is something Greg and Lynn McDonald, of Johns Creek, Ga., say they didn't understand when they found out their son, Greg, was gay. They describe themselves as conservative Christians and were worried that their son was committing a sin. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We thought that Greg somehow missed something along the way and that if he had someone to walk with and talk with in regards to it, he'd see and desire to be heterosexual,\" Lynn McDonald said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, at that time, when their 34-year-old son was 17, they met with a counselor about conversion therapy, which is legal in Michigan where they lived at the time and in Georgia. If it had been illegal, things might have been different. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It would have made me really pause to know that it's illegal to do that to a minor,\" Greg said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their son refused conversion therapy, and they didn't force him. It took a few years, but Greg and Lynn say that they realized they couldn't change him and that, as Christians, they shouldn't try to change him. They found that answer, they said, in the Bible. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As a Christian not only am I not supposed to shun my child, I'm actually supposed to love my child and not only supposed to, I'm commanded to.\" Lynn McDonald said. \"It's the greatest commandment.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, they say, they're ashamed that they ever considered conversion therapy. But when they found out their son was gay, they didn't know how to handle it and they felt isolated in their community. It's why they started a nonprofit, \u003ca href=\"https://www.embracingthejourney.org\">Embracing the Journey\u003c/a>, aimed at helping other conservative Christians who feel alone as parents of LGBTQ kids. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They are supporters of a conversion therapy ban. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Before anybody even thinks about sending their son or daughter to one of these places,\"\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>Lynn McDonald said, \"they have to be so educated in understanding what this can do to your child for the rest of their lives what kind of pain that can bring.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Activists+And+Suicide+Prevention+Groups+Seek+Bans+On+Conversion+Therapy+For+Minors+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11743312/activists-and-suicide-prevention-groups-seek-bans-on-conversion-therapy-for-minors","authors":["byline_news_11743312"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_457","news_8"],"tags":["news_3227","news_2518"],"featImg":"news_11743313","label":"news_72"},"news_11689711":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11689711","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11689711","score":null,"sort":[1535744823000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-lawmaker-drops-bill-to-ban-gay-conversion-therapy-despite-likely-approval","title":"California Lawmaker Drops Bill Targeting Gay Conversion Therapy Despite Likely Approval","publishDate":1535744823,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Legislation that would have declared anti-LGBT conversion therapy unlawful and would have banned advertising for it has been pulled back by its author, even though he appeared to have the votes to pass it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a personal statement released Friday morning, South Bay Assemblyman Evan Low (D-San Jose) described authoring \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB2943\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AB 2943\u003c/a> as \"one of the most personal decisions I have made since taking office.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although versions of the bill had passed both the Senate and Assembly, Low said he wanted a bill that addressed the concerns of some in the religious community who worried about its financial impact.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The best policy is not made in a vacuum and in order to advance the strongest piece of legislation, the bill requires additional time to allow for an inclusive process not hampered by legislative deadlines,\" Low wrote. Tonight is the deadline for passing legislation this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response, Greg Burt with the California Family Council (CFC) released a statement thanking Low for pulling the bill, calling his decision \"an incredible answer to the prayers of thousands across the country.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Low spent part of the summer traveling the state and meeting with a variety of pastors and other faith leaders who were concerned about his bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They were fearful if the bill was signed into law they could be exposed to litigation, which would force them to use their valuable resources to defend themselves, rather than provide direct services to their community,\" Low said. \"I understand that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jonathan Keller, president of the California Family Council, said his group was \"inexpressibly grateful\" to Low for what he called \"unprecedented outreach to the faith community.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite lingering opposition to the bill, Low said he was \"heartened\" by the conversations he had, adding that many religious leaders agreed the practice of conversion therapy was harmful and discredited by the medical profession.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In explaining his decision to hold back his legislation even in the face of victory, Low said he just felt the need to seek \"common ground\" with faith-based opposition, but according to his office \"the clock ran out\" in this legislative session to amend the bill in a way that both sides could support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Low noted the bill had bipartisan support with every indication that the governor would sign it, since he signed a \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billHistoryClient.xhtml?bill_id=201120120SB1172\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2012 bill\u003c/a> that banned conversion therapy for minors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We felt we were on the side of the angels,\" Low said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Given that, this is an unusual outcome as Democrats have in the past relished the opportunity to pass LGBT rights legislation over strenuous objections and opposition from the religious community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Low seems to have a bigger goal in mind than just passing AB 2943, perhaps aiming to build bridges with conservative religious leaders in hopes they can collaborate on other issues down the line.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Despite bipartisan support, legislation that would have declared anti-LGBT conversion therapy unlawful was pulled by the author over religious objections.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1535752457,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":16,"wordCount":470},"headData":{"title":"California Lawmaker Drops Bill Targeting Gay Conversion Therapy Despite Likely Approval | KQED","description":"Despite bipartisan support, legislation that would have declared anti-LGBT conversion therapy unlawful was pulled by the author over religious objections.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11689711 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11689711","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/08/31/california-lawmaker-drops-bill-to-ban-gay-conversion-therapy-despite-likely-approval/","disqusTitle":"California Lawmaker Drops Bill Targeting Gay Conversion Therapy Despite Likely Approval","path":"/news/11689711/california-lawmaker-drops-bill-to-ban-gay-conversion-therapy-despite-likely-approval","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Legislation that would have declared anti-LGBT conversion therapy unlawful and would have banned advertising for it has been pulled back by its author, even though he appeared to have the votes to pass it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a personal statement released Friday morning, South Bay Assemblyman Evan Low (D-San Jose) described authoring \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB2943\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AB 2943\u003c/a> as \"one of the most personal decisions I have made since taking office.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although versions of the bill had passed both the Senate and Assembly, Low said he wanted a bill that addressed the concerns of some in the religious community who worried about its financial impact.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The best policy is not made in a vacuum and in order to advance the strongest piece of legislation, the bill requires additional time to allow for an inclusive process not hampered by legislative deadlines,\" Low wrote. Tonight is the deadline for passing legislation this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response, Greg Burt with the California Family Council (CFC) released a statement thanking Low for pulling the bill, calling his decision \"an incredible answer to the prayers of thousands across the country.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Low spent part of the summer traveling the state and meeting with a variety of pastors and other faith leaders who were concerned about his bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They were fearful if the bill was signed into law they could be exposed to litigation, which would force them to use their valuable resources to defend themselves, rather than provide direct services to their community,\" Low said. \"I understand that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jonathan Keller, president of the California Family Council, said his group was \"inexpressibly grateful\" to Low for what he called \"unprecedented outreach to the faith community.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite lingering opposition to the bill, Low said he was \"heartened\" by the conversations he had, adding that many religious leaders agreed the practice of conversion therapy was harmful and discredited by the medical profession.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In explaining his decision to hold back his legislation even in the face of victory, Low said he just felt the need to seek \"common ground\" with faith-based opposition, but according to his office \"the clock ran out\" in this legislative session to amend the bill in a way that both sides could support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Low noted the bill had bipartisan support with every indication that the governor would sign it, since he signed a \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billHistoryClient.xhtml?bill_id=201120120SB1172\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2012 bill\u003c/a> that banned conversion therapy for minors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We felt we were on the side of the angels,\" Low said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Given that, this is an unusual outcome as Democrats have in the past relished the opportunity to pass LGBT rights legislation over strenuous objections and opposition from the religious community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Low seems to have a bigger goal in mind than just passing AB 2943, perhaps aiming to build bridges with conservative religious leaders in hopes they can collaborate on other issues down the line.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11689711/california-lawmaker-drops-bill-to-ban-gay-conversion-therapy-despite-likely-approval","authors":["255"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_2518","news_17896"],"featImg":"news_11689783","label":"news_72"},"news_94688":{"type":"posts","id":"news_94688","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"94688","score":null,"sort":[1366311661000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"court-in-san-francisco-hears-challenge-to-gay-conversion-ban","title":"Court in San Francisco Hears Challenge to Gay Conversion Ban","publishDate":1366311661,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>by Lisa Leff and Paul Elias, Associated Press\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — California's novel law seeking to ban licensed counselors from trying to turn gay teens straight is boiling down to a question over whether the therapy is free speech or a medical treatment that can be regulated by government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_89826\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 220px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/02/21/why-san-francisco-and-napa-have-been-ranked-as-the-happiest-cities-in-america/gay/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-89826\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-89826\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/02/gay.jpg\" alt=\"The perception of San Francisco as a gay-friendly city helped it earn the title America's happiest city. (Terri Hodges/Flickr)\" width=\"220\" height=\"220\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Californians increasingly see gay relationships as normal. (Terri Hodges/Flickr)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It's the \"pivot point\" of the legal debate, Judge Morgan Christen of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Morgan and two other judges on the nation's largest federal appellate court considered 90 minutes of legal arguments over the ban on \"sexual-orientation change\" counseling of minors, which other states are considering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The three-judge panel is considering two challenges to the law approved in California last fall. It took no action Wednesday and will issue a written ruling later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The law was to go into effect Jan. 1, but the court put it on hold pending its decision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chief Judge Alex Kozinski noted the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a California ban of violent video games because the state failed to show a compelling reason to infringe on game-makers free speech rights to manufacture the products.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said it appeared the same argument could be applied to the evidence lawmakers relied on in passing the prohibition on sexual-orientation change therapy.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We really don't have anything compelling, as I see it,\" Kozinski said. \"Government has to have a compelling interest in curtailing speech.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California Deputy Attorney General Alexandra Robert Gordon, who is defending the ban, cited mainstream medical organizations' support of the law, and testimony before the state Legislature by several people who said they were harmed by the counseling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kozinski replied that opponents of the law also testified before lawmakers that they benefited from the counseling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There is evidence going both ways,\" Kozinski concluded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawyers for parents of children who are undergoing the counseling and licensed professionals who administer the \"talk therapy\" argued the ban goes too far. But Mathew Staver, founder of the Liberty Counsel and a lawyer opposing the law, said there is \"no evidence of harm.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The law says therapists and counselors who treat minors with methods designed to eliminate or reduce their same-sex attractions would be engaging in unprofessional conduct and subject to discipline by state licensing boards. The activities of pastors and lay counselors who are unlicensed but provide such therapy through church programs would not be covered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cases before the appeals court was brought by professionals who practice sexual-orientation change therapy, two families who say their teenage sons benefited from it, and a national association of Christian mental health counselors. They argue the ban infringes on their free speech and freedom of association and religious rights. The counselors also argue it jeopardizes their livelihoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The state has determined that the only permissible message (is that) same-sex attractions, behavior or identity are to be accepted, supported and understood, thus suppressing all other viewpoints to the detriment of licensed professionals and their vulnerable minor clients,\" lawyers for the families, several practitioners and the professional group said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The viewpoint of counselors who in their professional judgment determine that same-sex attractions conflict with the religious and moral beliefs of clients and are not desired, is silenced by SB 1172. This raises a serious constitutional question.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters, including Gov. Jerry Brown and Attorney General Kamala Harris, say the prohibition on \"reparative\" and \"conversion\" therapy is necessary to protect children from a coercive practice that can put them at increased risk of suicide. They also say the therapy's efficacy has been questioned or rejected by every major mental health professional association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harris has argued the law \"is based on a scientific and professional consensus reached decades ago that homosexuality is a normal expression of human sexuality and not a disease, condition, or disorder in need of a 'cure.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reflecting the competing issues before the appeals court, the two Sacramento-based trial judges who handled the lawsuits in December reached differing conclusions on whether the ban violates the U.S. Constitution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One refused to block the law after ruling the plaintiffs were unlikely to prove the prohibition unfairly tramples on their civil rights and should therefore be overturned. The other said he found the First Amendment issues presented by the ban to be compelling and ordered the state to temporarily exempt the three people named in the case before him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The panel hearing the cases Wednesday consists of Chief Judge Alex Kozinski, who was appointed by Ronald Reagan in 1985, Judge Susan Graber, a 1998 Bill Clinton appointee, and Judge Morgan Christen, a 2012 appointee of President Barack Obama. The judges don't have a deadline for issuing a decision.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1366311661,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":798},"headData":{"title":"Court in San Francisco Hears Challenge to Gay Conversion Ban | KQED","description":"by Lisa Leff and Paul Elias, Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — California's novel law seeking to ban licensed counselors from trying to turn gay teens straight is boiling down to a question over whether the therapy is free speech or a medical treatment that can be regulated by government. It's the "pivot point" of","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"94688 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=94688","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/04/18/court-in-san-francisco-hears-challenge-to-gay-conversion-ban/","disqusTitle":"Court in San Francisco Hears Challenge to Gay Conversion Ban","path":"/news/94688/court-in-san-francisco-hears-challenge-to-gay-conversion-ban","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>by Lisa Leff and Paul Elias, Associated Press\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — California's novel law seeking to ban licensed counselors from trying to turn gay teens straight is boiling down to a question over whether the therapy is free speech or a medical treatment that can be regulated by government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_89826\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 220px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/02/21/why-san-francisco-and-napa-have-been-ranked-as-the-happiest-cities-in-america/gay/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-89826\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-89826\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/02/gay.jpg\" alt=\"The perception of San Francisco as a gay-friendly city helped it earn the title America's happiest city. (Terri Hodges/Flickr)\" width=\"220\" height=\"220\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Californians increasingly see gay relationships as normal. (Terri Hodges/Flickr)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It's the \"pivot point\" of the legal debate, Judge Morgan Christen of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Morgan and two other judges on the nation's largest federal appellate court considered 90 minutes of legal arguments over the ban on \"sexual-orientation change\" counseling of minors, which other states are considering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The three-judge panel is considering two challenges to the law approved in California last fall. It took no action Wednesday and will issue a written ruling later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The law was to go into effect Jan. 1, but the court put it on hold pending its decision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chief Judge Alex Kozinski noted the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a California ban of violent video games because the state failed to show a compelling reason to infringe on game-makers free speech rights to manufacture the products.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said it appeared the same argument could be applied to the evidence lawmakers relied on in passing the prohibition on sexual-orientation change therapy.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We really don't have anything compelling, as I see it,\" Kozinski said. \"Government has to have a compelling interest in curtailing speech.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California Deputy Attorney General Alexandra Robert Gordon, who is defending the ban, cited mainstream medical organizations' support of the law, and testimony before the state Legislature by several people who said they were harmed by the counseling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kozinski replied that opponents of the law also testified before lawmakers that they benefited from the counseling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There is evidence going both ways,\" Kozinski concluded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawyers for parents of children who are undergoing the counseling and licensed professionals who administer the \"talk therapy\" argued the ban goes too far. But Mathew Staver, founder of the Liberty Counsel and a lawyer opposing the law, said there is \"no evidence of harm.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The law says therapists and counselors who treat minors with methods designed to eliminate or reduce their same-sex attractions would be engaging in unprofessional conduct and subject to discipline by state licensing boards. The activities of pastors and lay counselors who are unlicensed but provide such therapy through church programs would not be covered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cases before the appeals court was brought by professionals who practice sexual-orientation change therapy, two families who say their teenage sons benefited from it, and a national association of Christian mental health counselors. They argue the ban infringes on their free speech and freedom of association and religious rights. The counselors also argue it jeopardizes their livelihoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The state has determined that the only permissible message (is that) same-sex attractions, behavior or identity are to be accepted, supported and understood, thus suppressing all other viewpoints to the detriment of licensed professionals and their vulnerable minor clients,\" lawyers for the families, several practitioners and the professional group said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The viewpoint of counselors who in their professional judgment determine that same-sex attractions conflict with the religious and moral beliefs of clients and are not desired, is silenced by SB 1172. This raises a serious constitutional question.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters, including Gov. Jerry Brown and Attorney General Kamala Harris, say the prohibition on \"reparative\" and \"conversion\" therapy is necessary to protect children from a coercive practice that can put them at increased risk of suicide. They also say the therapy's efficacy has been questioned or rejected by every major mental health professional association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harris has argued the law \"is based on a scientific and professional consensus reached decades ago that homosexuality is a normal expression of human sexuality and not a disease, condition, or disorder in need of a 'cure.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reflecting the competing issues before the appeals court, the two Sacramento-based trial judges who handled the lawsuits in December reached differing conclusions on whether the ban violates the U.S. Constitution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One refused to block the law after ruling the plaintiffs were unlikely to prove the prohibition unfairly tramples on their civil rights and should therefore be overturned. The other said he found the First Amendment issues presented by the ban to be compelling and ordered the state to temporarily exempt the three people named in the case before him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The panel hearing the cases Wednesday consists of Chief Judge Alex Kozinski, who was appointed by Ronald Reagan in 1985, Judge Susan Graber, a 1998 Bill Clinton appointee, and Judge Morgan Christen, a 2012 appointee of President Barack Obama. The judges don't have a deadline for issuing a decision.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/94688/court-in-san-francisco-hears-challenge-to-gay-conversion-ban","authors":["237"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6188"],"tags":["news_4863","news_3227","news_2518","news_4262","news_4261","news_82","news_4263"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_64784":{"type":"posts","id":"news_64784","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"64784","score":null,"sort":[1336511655000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-considers-ban-on-gay-conversion-therapy","title":"California Senate Considers Ban on Gay Conversion Therapy","publishDate":1336511655,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>SACRAMENTO, California (AP) A first-of-its-kind ban on a controversial form of psychotherapy aimed at making gay people straight faces a key vote in front of California lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/sen/sb_1151-1200/sb_1172_bill_20120430_amended_sen_v95.html\">\u003cstrong>Read the bill\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://prospect.org/article/my-so-called-ex-gay-life\">\u003cstrong>My So-Called Ex-Gay Life\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> (American Prospect) - author of study finding effectiveness of gay conversion therapy retracts\u003cbr>\n\u003c/li>\u003c/ul>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Supporters say the legislation, which is before its final committee Tuesday, is necessary because such treatments are dangerous and can lead to suicide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Conservative religious groups emphatically reject that view of sexual orientation therapy and say the California bill would interfere with parents' rights to seek appropriate psychological care for their children. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill would prohibit so-called reparative therapy for minors and force adults who chose to undergo the treatment to sign a release form that states that the counseling is ineffective and possibly dangerous. Mainstream mental health organizations have disavowed such therapy. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/sen/sb_1151-1200/sb_1172_bill_20120430_amended_sen_v95.html\">SB 1172\u003c/a>, sponsored by Equality California, was expected to go to its final committee hearing Tuesday afternoon and will go to the full Senate if approved. \u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lieu says attempts to pathologize and change people's sexual orientation should be treated akin to smoking and drinking: harmful activities that adults can choose to participate in, but children cannot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We let adults do all sorts of stupid and risky things, but we ban dangerous things for young people,\" Lieu said in a telephone interview.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was inspired to take up the issue by a cable news documentary featuring people whose parents had attempted to change their sexual orientation. The doctor featured in the show \"was evil,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Interest in the religion-based therapy appears to have surged in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Exodus International, the world's largest Christian referral network dealing with homosexuality, now refers people to 260 groups across the country, up from about 100 a decade ago. 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