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Gavin Newsom’s trip to China, with the stated goal of working together to fight climate change, resulted in a surprise meeting with leader Xi Jinping and was filled with warm words and friendliness not seen in years in the China-U.S. relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The trip was seen as one of the steps in paving the way for \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/us-china-wangyi-biden-blinken-fbaef1a1afb599807a8fe47f3600a384\">U.S. President Joe Biden and Xi to meet\u003c/a> in San Francisco in November during the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, but it also highlighted the existing relationship that China has with California, showing that even when tensions are high between the two countries, collaboration is still possible on some levels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The reception from China “sends a very clear signal that working with California is desired and, at minimum, politically safe and encouraged,” said Alex Wang, a professor of law at UCLA who focuses on the environment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S.-China relations have deteriorated significantly since 2018 over issues as wide-ranging as trade, the origin of COVID-19 and the national security crackdown in Hong Kong. That is true both for the two countries at the national level, and for state-level engagement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>States’ involvement with China has fallen off rapidly in the past five years, as the bilateral relationship deteriorated under the Trump administration and further soured with the pandemic, according to research from Kyle Jaros, a professor of global affairs at University of Notre Dame.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yet, that engagement is what China wants, he said, as it views U.S. states as pragmatic partners in business without having to wade into politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California has a steady and long working relationship with China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican governor, started the formal relationship with China over climate cooperation a decade ago, Jaros said. His successor, the Democrat Jerry Brown, continued the relationship even as the U.S. started turning away from China during the Trump administration. At one point, the California government even had a staffer based in China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state is also home to the biggest population of Chinese-Americans nationally, sharing historical and cultural ties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a long-standing, deep relationship where many people have met,” said Wang, who is also the co-director at UCLA’s Emmett Institute on Climate Change and the Environment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965883\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11965883\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022.jpg\" alt=\"A meeting room with two delegations on either side of a long table.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"641\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022.jpg 1024w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022-800x501.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022-1020x638.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022-160x100.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wang Yi, a member of the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of China Central Committee and director of the Office of the Central Commission for Foreign Affairs, meets with Gov. Gavin Newsom in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 25, 2023. \u003ccite>(Pang Xinglei/Xinhua via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Much of the cooperation on climate is on technical information-sharing and showing the other side how they did things, said Wang, who has done some of the collaborative work himself. The information shared is often not high-level, but is about the thousands of smaller decisions, “such as how do you finance electric buses, who pays for it, how do you set up the charging infrastructure?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California could learn more about offshore wind technologies from China, which is a global leader in using the tech, Wang said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Politically, the trip allowed Newsom, who appears to be positioning himself for a future presidential run, to polish his diplomatic credentials by engaging with Chinese leaders on \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-governor-gavin-newsom-climate-bills-global-warming-2c5adbb29e67b753e396169195430ffb\">a signature policy issue, climate change.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s administration is pushing to expand solar power and other clean energy as the state aims to cut emissions by 40% below 1990 levels by 2030. State regulators also have banned the sale of most new gas-powered cars in California by 2035.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Alfred Wu, professor of Chinese politics, National University of Singapore\"]‘China’s economic downturn is also a factor (in) why Xi Jinping is now engaging much more with outside stakeholders.’[/pullquote]Newsom has repeatedly said he’s not interested in the presidency, but he is widely viewed as a likely future Democratic contender.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the Chinese side, the meeting with Newsom could lead to economic opportunities. Experts say one reason Xi may have chosen to meet with Newsom is the economic headwinds that China is facing, and California presents a potential source of foreign investment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“China’s economic downturn is also a factor (in) why Xi Jinping is now engaging much more with outside stakeholders,” said Alfred Wu, a professor who studies Chinese politics at the National University of Singapore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Youth unemployment is \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/china-economy-reserve-banks-stimulus-c50a9f1640e6e311cc6d4ef82c5720b9\">at a high of about 20% this year, and the real-estate sector\u003c/a> has been weak in recent years as developers are saddled with heavy debts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beijing’s engagement with state-level governments have always been about pragmatic things like doing business, Jaros added. Newsom’s “red-carpet” treatment “shows how Beijing wants to stabilize the sub-national plank … finding partners who are intent on working with China economically and scientifically.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back home, the trip has been attacked on a variety of fronts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom has faced some criticism for press access, as the Chinese government decided to shut American reporters out of Newsom’s meeting with Xi.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, the California family of a Christian pastor who has been detained in China since 2006 said Newsom should take any possible opportunity to argue for his release.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s office said David Lin’s detention came up during a series of meetings in Beijing, as did human rights violations and anti-democratic efforts in Hong Kong, Taiwan and elsewhere. His office didn’t specify which Chinese officials Newsom spoke to about those issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>AP writers Kathleen Ronayne in Sacramento, California, and Christopher Megerian in Washington, D.C. contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Newsom's trip was meant to pave the way for President Biden and Chinese leader Xi Jinping to meet at the APEC summit in San Francisco, but it also highlighted the existing relationship between China and California.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1698524183,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":963},"headData":{"title":"Gov. 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Gavin Newsom’s trip to China, with the stated goal of working together to fight climate change, resulted in a surprise meeting with leader Xi Jinping and was filled with warm words and friendliness not seen in years in the China-U.S. relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The trip was seen as one of the steps in paving the way for \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/us-china-wangyi-biden-blinken-fbaef1a1afb599807a8fe47f3600a384\">U.S. President Joe Biden and Xi to meet\u003c/a> in San Francisco in November during the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, but it also highlighted the existing relationship that China has with California, showing that even when tensions are high between the two countries, collaboration is still possible on some levels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The reception from China “sends a very clear signal that working with California is desired and, at minimum, politically safe and encouraged,” said Alex Wang, a professor of law at UCLA who focuses on the environment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S.-China relations have deteriorated significantly since 2018 over issues as wide-ranging as trade, the origin of COVID-19 and the national security crackdown in Hong Kong. That is true both for the two countries at the national level, and for state-level engagement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>States’ involvement with China has fallen off rapidly in the past five years, as the bilateral relationship deteriorated under the Trump administration and further soured with the pandemic, according to research from Kyle Jaros, a professor of global affairs at University of Notre Dame.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yet, that engagement is what China wants, he said, as it views U.S. states as pragmatic partners in business without having to wade into politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California has a steady and long working relationship with China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican governor, started the formal relationship with China over climate cooperation a decade ago, Jaros said. His successor, the Democrat Jerry Brown, continued the relationship even as the U.S. started turning away from China during the Trump administration. At one point, the California government even had a staffer based in China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state is also home to the biggest population of Chinese-Americans nationally, sharing historical and cultural ties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a long-standing, deep relationship where many people have met,” said Wang, who is also the co-director at UCLA’s Emmett Institute on Climate Change and the Environment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965883\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11965883\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022.jpg\" alt=\"A meeting room with two delegations on either side of a long table.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"641\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022.jpg 1024w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022-800x501.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022-1020x638.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022-160x100.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wang Yi, a member of the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of China Central Committee and director of the Office of the Central Commission for Foreign Affairs, meets with Gov. Gavin Newsom in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 25, 2023. \u003ccite>(Pang Xinglei/Xinhua via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Much of the cooperation on climate is on technical information-sharing and showing the other side how they did things, said Wang, who has done some of the collaborative work himself. The information shared is often not high-level, but is about the thousands of smaller decisions, “such as how do you finance electric buses, who pays for it, how do you set up the charging infrastructure?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California could learn more about offshore wind technologies from China, which is a global leader in using the tech, Wang said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Politically, the trip allowed Newsom, who appears to be positioning himself for a future presidential run, to polish his diplomatic credentials by engaging with Chinese leaders on \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-governor-gavin-newsom-climate-bills-global-warming-2c5adbb29e67b753e396169195430ffb\">a signature policy issue, climate change.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s administration is pushing to expand solar power and other clean energy as the state aims to cut emissions by 40% below 1990 levels by 2030. State regulators also have banned the sale of most new gas-powered cars in California by 2035.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘China’s economic downturn is also a factor (in) why Xi Jinping is now engaging much more with outside stakeholders.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Alfred Wu, professor of Chinese politics, National University of Singapore","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Newsom has repeatedly said he’s not interested in the presidency, but he is widely viewed as a likely future Democratic contender.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the Chinese side, the meeting with Newsom could lead to economic opportunities. Experts say one reason Xi may have chosen to meet with Newsom is the economic headwinds that China is facing, and California presents a potential source of foreign investment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“China’s economic downturn is also a factor (in) why Xi Jinping is now engaging much more with outside stakeholders,” said Alfred Wu, a professor who studies Chinese politics at the National University of Singapore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Youth unemployment is \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/china-economy-reserve-banks-stimulus-c50a9f1640e6e311cc6d4ef82c5720b9\">at a high of about 20% this year, and the real-estate sector\u003c/a> has been weak in recent years as developers are saddled with heavy debts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beijing’s engagement with state-level governments have always been about pragmatic things like doing business, Jaros added. Newsom’s “red-carpet” treatment “shows how Beijing wants to stabilize the sub-national plank … finding partners who are intent on working with China economically and scientifically.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back home, the trip has been attacked on a variety of fronts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom has faced some criticism for press access, as the Chinese government decided to shut American reporters out of Newsom’s meeting with Xi.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, the California family of a Christian pastor who has been detained in China since 2006 said Newsom should take any possible opportunity to argue for his release.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s office said David Lin’s detention came up during a series of meetings in Beijing, as did human rights violations and anti-democratic efforts in Hong Kong, Taiwan and elsewhere. His office didn’t specify which Chinese officials Newsom spoke to about those issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>AP writers Kathleen Ronayne in Sacramento, California, and Christopher Megerian in Washington, D.C. contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11965879/gov-newsoms-trip-shows-us-china-engagement-is-still-possible-on-a-state-level","authors":["byline_news_11965879"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_1867","news_33175","news_18378","news_33417","news_33416"],"featImg":"news_11965881","label":"news"},"news_11933750":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11933750","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11933750","score":null,"sort":[1670086855000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"china-protests-explained-why-are-they-happening-where-are-they-going","title":"China's Mass Protest Movement: Why It Began and Where It Might Lead","publishDate":1670086855,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>In a remarkable display of public discontent not seen since the \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48445934\">1989 Tiananmen Square demonstrations\u003c/a>, protesters across China have taken to the streets, demanding an end to the country’s stringent zero-COVID policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the outset of the pandemic, China adopted a strategy of quarantining and locking down large numbers of citizens to prevent the spread of the virus — an approach that undoubtedly saved a huge number of lives. But while most of the world has moved on to treating COVID as an endemic disease, much like the seasonal flu, and has generally allowed pre-pandemic life to resume, China has continued strict enforcement of its policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Long-simmering resentment over the policy reached a boiling point last week, when \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/china-fires-6a1b6902e6ccf87e064f1232045a2848\">a fire in an apartment building in Urumqi, in northwestern China’s Xinjiang region, killed 10 people\u003c/a>, amid stringent lockdowns that have confined many residents in the area to their homes for more than three months.[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11933805,news_11933614,forum_2010101891432\"]Spurred by news of the fire, demonstrators across the country — and in Chinese communities around the world — took to the streets, calling for an end to the restrictions, which they argue have placed an extraordinary burden on citizens. Many protesters are also demanding the resignation of China’s President Xi Jinping, who was confirmed in October for an unprecedented third term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED Forum host Alexis Madrigal on Thursday spoke to three China observers about the protests, the government's response and what impact the unrest might have in amending China’s COVID policy and its future. Guests included:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kerry\u003c/strong> \u003cstrong>Allen\u003c/strong>, a BBC Chinese media analyst\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nVictor Shih\u003c/strong>, chair of China and pacific relations at UC San Diego\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Qian\u003c/strong>, economics professor at Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management and founder of the school's China Econ Lab\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>ALEXIS MADRIGAL: How has the zero-COVID policy been implemented exactly and how has it affected life in China?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KERRY ALLEN:\u003c/strong> You get tested roughly every two to three days, and this test is entered into your phone and you get a QR code. It's either green, yellow or red, and you need to show a green code in order to be able to access most public buildings, most public transport. If you get a yellow or a red, it can literally stop you from entering buildings, stop you from getting on public transport. If you test positive for COVID-19, everybody on your entire street or in your apartment complex will be locked down. That hasn't changed for the last three years, and this is what's really fueled people's anger, the idea that they can't get back to life as normal, that if they just go to the supermarket and somebody in the same supermarket tests positive, they might not go home. They might be taken to a quarantine center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> And it has been mandatory. China has had the state capacity to do so because of residential committees — quasi-government workers who enforce lockdowns in every single neighborhood and prevent outsiders, even delivery people. People have been unable to get food and medicine, which has been the source of a lot of tragedies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What are the quarantine centers like?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> For foreigners, the so-called centralized quarantine facilities are basically like a three-star hotel. But for people in China who receive a red code, they go to a giant kind of warehouse that is not meant for people to live in and where sometimes hundreds of cots are just put on the ground and they're sleeping next to each other. Oftentimes they would only have one or two bathrooms shared by hundreds of people. The plumbing overflows, etcetera.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How has this affected the basic functioning of the economy? What's it like to own a business in this kind of environment?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>NANCY QIAN:\u003c/strong> It's been incredibly difficult for economic functions to continue as normal during lockdowns. Factories can't get their product to stores, stores can't get their products to customers. It's just a complete breakdown of the supply chain. Based on data from much milder lockdowns, economists estimate that a month-long lockdown of a city like Beijing or Shanghai would reduce total Chinese GDP by 4%. And Shanghai was in lockdown for two months. As far as we know, 45 cities were in lockdown in April. In September, there were 70 cities that were on some type of a lockdown. And these are just the official ones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What's the explanation for why China's GDP continued to increase throughout 2020 and 2021, while the U.S. GDP declined? That difference would seem strange since China had this lockdown policy.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>NANCY QIAN:\u003c/strong> Part of that is because during the earlier days of COVID, infection rates were very low in China. There was a complete lockdown, not just in China, but also most other parts of the world. So there just wasn't much disease in China. Because of that, and because of their ability to do rapid lockdowns when there were low infection breakouts, they were able to keep producing, keep manufacturing, and Chinese exports actually increased during this time. During COVID, there was a lot of consumer demand from overseas for manufactured goods and that explains a lot of the Chinese growth during those years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What do we know about the protests? What's exceptional about them?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> The scale in terms of the number of people participating is not especially large, but in terms of the geographical spread and also the demands that were voiced by the protesters, really it is something that we have not seen since 1989. These are protests taking place over a dozen cities, and while they mostly call for less COVID restrictions, there are quite a few instances of protesters asking for fundamental political reform. Even at an elite institution like Shanghai University, which has produced half the top leaders of China — including Xi Jinping himself — there were calls for rule of law and freedom. That's really striking and is something that we have not seen for several decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KERRY ALLEN:\u003c/strong> You've also got workers protesting in places like Urumqi and you've got Han Chinese protesting in other parts of the country. It shows that it's not just about COVID anymore. It's about the inability to speak out about what's happening in your area. So, yes, I expect that we could see more protests and there's definitely tension and there's definitely anger about not just COVID-19, but also not being able to speak openly over the last three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, yeah, it will be a case of what happens next, especially with the winter months coming. It's going to get a lot colder. There have been warnings that there will be more COVID-19 cases. So there are expected to be a lot of lockdowns. And there's a lot of emphasis on local governments to try and manage the economy as well as the virus spreading. But people online are still very much talking about their anger and their frustrations. The censors might try to silence this, but the anger is still there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And what has the government response been?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KERRY ALLEN:\u003c/strong> They haven't acknowledged the protesters whatsoever in state media. There's just no mention of them. What there's been in newspapers and broadcasters is this emphasis that China is constantly changing its guidelines in line with scientific and technical guidelines for what works best with COVID-19. So they're really doubling down and saying, \"Our policies are the correct ones.\" And yeah, censors will remove mention of protest pictures, of protest videos, of protests online. So there's the idea that dissent just doesn't exist in the country. So it's a major operation involving thousands of people to literally scrub social media posts and make sure that people don't see these.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>It seems like this zero-COVID approach is causing the Chinese Communist Party and Xi Jinping a lot of trouble. So why not do something else?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> You have to remember that China spent pretty much the past three years trumpeting the successful approach in controlling COVID up until recent months. After the initial wave of very tragic infections and deaths in Wuhan, the Chinese government was able to control the spread of COVID at a time when, in most countries in the world, COVID spread pretty much uncontrollably, leading to millions of deaths.[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Victor Shih, chair of China and pacific relations, UCSD\"]'Even at an elite institution like Shanghai University, which has produced half the top leaders of China — including Xi Jinping himself — there were calls for rule of law and freedom. That's really striking and is something that we have not seen for several decades.'[/pullquote]Up until the end of 2021, there has been a very low spread of COVID and a very low number of deaths in China. And so the Chinese government made a lot of that fact. For them to suddenly change course and to open up and to allow the sort of rampant spread of COVID, I think that will create another wave of crisis, maybe among a different population, among older people, among people who work for the Chinese government and who were at the forefront of trying to enforce the COVID lockdown policies. So I think either way that they go, they will create some kind of problem with some segment of the population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Xi Jinping's grip on power in the party is pretty absolute at this point, because he has inserted very trusted followers in the People's Liberation Army and also in the internal security services. Once you control those two parts of the Chinese government, you pretty much have all the levers of power. So I don't think that will change. But we have seen some softening of COVID policies because of the protests. And of course, that could be tactical. But the economic costs of COVID lockdown is quite substantial. I think a lot of people around Xi probably are beginning to suggest to him that COVID policies need to change or the Chinese economy is really not going to be in a good place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Aside from zero-COVID, what other public health policies have been at play in China? Could the government have, for example, run a more intense vaccination campaign?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>NANCY QIAN:\u003c/strong> Before we had vaccines, all we really had were lockdowns to keep people safe. But then as vaccines were innovated, that gave policymakers a second tool. China differed from the rest of the world, or I should say the West and other high-income countries, in a couple of ways. One is that they decided to use only the domestically produced vaccine, which is effective, although it's not as effective as the one that Pfizer has produced. And the second thing that's differed is that the vaccination rates have been very low for the elderly, and that's a big difference with, say, the U.S. or European countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The young have almost perfect compliance, but the elderly population, those over 65, even those over 80, have very low vaccination rates. And part of that is that they're just really afraid of side effects and suffering problems from that. And the way they see it is that if they don't get vaccinated, the probability of getting ill is very low, a belief driven in part by the country's initially very low COVID rates. And I think that's just a result of poor messaging from public health officials in China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How has China's zero-COVID policy affected school-aged kids in the country?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KERRY ALLEN:\u003c/strong> Well, one thing that's been really interesting to me is there was a period of time in China when you would see daily reports on U.S. kids and how it affected them. China very much wanted to stress that this was a big problem in the U.S., that the children were facing physical and mental health problems as a result of COVID-19 and, as state media saw it, the lax government rules that were applied in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in China, I've seen similar struggles. There's been this whole campaign of \"tang ping\" culture, this \"lying flat,\" that particularly young people now are so burnt out, so frustrated, being told that they constantly need to be embracing the government's message, doing more, helping out with the economy. They feel stressed out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I remember when lockdowns were first lifted in some communities. Children were still going back to school wearing masks, and they were crying because they couldn't recognize their teachers and their friends anymore. So you could see that this had a big impact on children, the lockdowns in particular, because for a long period of time, they had been studying from home and felt isolated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How important is it to have protests of solidarity outside of China, like the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11933614/sf-chinatown-vigil-pushes-back-against-chinas-anti-covid-lockdowns\">recent vigil that was held in Chinatown in San Francisco\u003c/a>? Does it have any impact on what's happening in China?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> I think the protests both in China and also overseas are having a very enormous medium-term impact. In the literature on protests, one of the deepest insights, I think, is from \u003ca href=\"https://sites.duke.edu/timurkuran/\">Professor Timur Kuran\u003c/a>, who's at Duke University. \u003ca href=\"https://sites.duke.edu/timurkuran/2019/07/17/podcast-the-good-fight-with-yacha-mounk/\">His insight\u003c/a> is that with protests, especially in authoritarian regimes, people who previously have been very isolated from each other, who didn't know that other people felt the same way, when they showed up on the streets, they all realized that actually there are quite a number of people who feel the same as them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is especially true in China, but also true outside of China, where, of course, a lot of people who have been unhappy with the Chinese government have left China and have come especially to the United States. But they didn't know that there were so many others like them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So with these protests, they suddenly realized that there's actually quite a large community of people who are just like them. This \"information revelation,\" which is what we call it in the literature, will encourage them to participate in further protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, of course, this mechanism will be especially strong overseas where there is not the threat of arrest when you participate in anti-Chinese government protests. So I think this will have a long-lasting impact.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"KQED Forum examines the many factors fueling the recent widespread protests in China over the government's zero-COVID policy, and what may come from this rare outpouring of public dissent. 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But while most of the world has moved on to treating COVID as an endemic disease, much like the seasonal flu, and has generally allowed pre-pandemic life to resume, China has continued strict enforcement of its policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Long-simmering resentment over the policy reached a boiling point last week, when \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/china-fires-6a1b6902e6ccf87e064f1232045a2848\">a fire in an apartment building in Urumqi, in northwestern China’s Xinjiang region, killed 10 people\u003c/a>, amid stringent lockdowns that have confined many residents in the area to their homes for more than three months.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","postid":"news_11933805,news_11933614,forum_2010101891432"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Spurred by news of the fire, demonstrators across the country — and in Chinese communities around the world — took to the streets, calling for an end to the restrictions, which they argue have placed an extraordinary burden on citizens. Many protesters are also demanding the resignation of China’s President Xi Jinping, who was confirmed in October for an unprecedented third term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED Forum host Alexis Madrigal on Thursday spoke to three China observers about the protests, the government's response and what impact the unrest might have in amending China’s COVID policy and its future. Guests included:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kerry\u003c/strong> \u003cstrong>Allen\u003c/strong>, a BBC Chinese media analyst\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nVictor Shih\u003c/strong>, chair of China and pacific relations at UC San Diego\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Qian\u003c/strong>, economics professor at Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management and founder of the school's China Econ Lab\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>ALEXIS MADRIGAL: How has the zero-COVID policy been implemented exactly and how has it affected life in China?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KERRY ALLEN:\u003c/strong> You get tested roughly every two to three days, and this test is entered into your phone and you get a QR code. It's either green, yellow or red, and you need to show a green code in order to be able to access most public buildings, most public transport. If you get a yellow or a red, it can literally stop you from entering buildings, stop you from getting on public transport. If you test positive for COVID-19, everybody on your entire street or in your apartment complex will be locked down. That hasn't changed for the last three years, and this is what's really fueled people's anger, the idea that they can't get back to life as normal, that if they just go to the supermarket and somebody in the same supermarket tests positive, they might not go home. They might be taken to a quarantine center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> And it has been mandatory. China has had the state capacity to do so because of residential committees — quasi-government workers who enforce lockdowns in every single neighborhood and prevent outsiders, even delivery people. People have been unable to get food and medicine, which has been the source of a lot of tragedies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What are the quarantine centers like?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> For foreigners, the so-called centralized quarantine facilities are basically like a three-star hotel. But for people in China who receive a red code, they go to a giant kind of warehouse that is not meant for people to live in and where sometimes hundreds of cots are just put on the ground and they're sleeping next to each other. Oftentimes they would only have one or two bathrooms shared by hundreds of people. The plumbing overflows, etcetera.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How has this affected the basic functioning of the economy? What's it like to own a business in this kind of environment?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>NANCY QIAN:\u003c/strong> It's been incredibly difficult for economic functions to continue as normal during lockdowns. Factories can't get their product to stores, stores can't get their products to customers. It's just a complete breakdown of the supply chain. Based on data from much milder lockdowns, economists estimate that a month-long lockdown of a city like Beijing or Shanghai would reduce total Chinese GDP by 4%. And Shanghai was in lockdown for two months. As far as we know, 45 cities were in lockdown in April. In September, there were 70 cities that were on some type of a lockdown. And these are just the official ones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What's the explanation for why China's GDP continued to increase throughout 2020 and 2021, while the U.S. GDP declined? That difference would seem strange since China had this lockdown policy.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>NANCY QIAN:\u003c/strong> Part of that is because during the earlier days of COVID, infection rates were very low in China. There was a complete lockdown, not just in China, but also most other parts of the world. So there just wasn't much disease in China. Because of that, and because of their ability to do rapid lockdowns when there were low infection breakouts, they were able to keep producing, keep manufacturing, and Chinese exports actually increased during this time. During COVID, there was a lot of consumer demand from overseas for manufactured goods and that explains a lot of the Chinese growth during those years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What do we know about the protests? What's exceptional about them?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> The scale in terms of the number of people participating is not especially large, but in terms of the geographical spread and also the demands that were voiced by the protesters, really it is something that we have not seen since 1989. These are protests taking place over a dozen cities, and while they mostly call for less COVID restrictions, there are quite a few instances of protesters asking for fundamental political reform. Even at an elite institution like Shanghai University, which has produced half the top leaders of China — including Xi Jinping himself — there were calls for rule of law and freedom. That's really striking and is something that we have not seen for several decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KERRY ALLEN:\u003c/strong> You've also got workers protesting in places like Urumqi and you've got Han Chinese protesting in other parts of the country. It shows that it's not just about COVID anymore. It's about the inability to speak out about what's happening in your area. So, yes, I expect that we could see more protests and there's definitely tension and there's definitely anger about not just COVID-19, but also not being able to speak openly over the last three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, yeah, it will be a case of what happens next, especially with the winter months coming. It's going to get a lot colder. There have been warnings that there will be more COVID-19 cases. So there are expected to be a lot of lockdowns. And there's a lot of emphasis on local governments to try and manage the economy as well as the virus spreading. But people online are still very much talking about their anger and their frustrations. The censors might try to silence this, but the anger is still there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And what has the government response been?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KERRY ALLEN:\u003c/strong> They haven't acknowledged the protesters whatsoever in state media. There's just no mention of them. What there's been in newspapers and broadcasters is this emphasis that China is constantly changing its guidelines in line with scientific and technical guidelines for what works best with COVID-19. So they're really doubling down and saying, \"Our policies are the correct ones.\" And yeah, censors will remove mention of protest pictures, of protest videos, of protests online. So there's the idea that dissent just doesn't exist in the country. So it's a major operation involving thousands of people to literally scrub social media posts and make sure that people don't see these.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>It seems like this zero-COVID approach is causing the Chinese Communist Party and Xi Jinping a lot of trouble. So why not do something else?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> You have to remember that China spent pretty much the past three years trumpeting the successful approach in controlling COVID up until recent months. After the initial wave of very tragic infections and deaths in Wuhan, the Chinese government was able to control the spread of COVID at a time when, in most countries in the world, COVID spread pretty much uncontrollably, leading to millions of deaths.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Even at an elite institution like Shanghai University, which has produced half the top leaders of China — including Xi Jinping himself — there were calls for rule of law and freedom. That's really striking and is something that we have not seen for several decades.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Victor Shih, chair of China and pacific relations, UCSD","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Up until the end of 2021, there has been a very low spread of COVID and a very low number of deaths in China. And so the Chinese government made a lot of that fact. For them to suddenly change course and to open up and to allow the sort of rampant spread of COVID, I think that will create another wave of crisis, maybe among a different population, among older people, among people who work for the Chinese government and who were at the forefront of trying to enforce the COVID lockdown policies. So I think either way that they go, they will create some kind of problem with some segment of the population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Xi Jinping's grip on power in the party is pretty absolute at this point, because he has inserted very trusted followers in the People's Liberation Army and also in the internal security services. Once you control those two parts of the Chinese government, you pretty much have all the levers of power. So I don't think that will change. But we have seen some softening of COVID policies because of the protests. And of course, that could be tactical. But the economic costs of COVID lockdown is quite substantial. I think a lot of people around Xi probably are beginning to suggest to him that COVID policies need to change or the Chinese economy is really not going to be in a good place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Aside from zero-COVID, what other public health policies have been at play in China? Could the government have, for example, run a more intense vaccination campaign?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>NANCY QIAN:\u003c/strong> Before we had vaccines, all we really had were lockdowns to keep people safe. But then as vaccines were innovated, that gave policymakers a second tool. China differed from the rest of the world, or I should say the West and other high-income countries, in a couple of ways. One is that they decided to use only the domestically produced vaccine, which is effective, although it's not as effective as the one that Pfizer has produced. And the second thing that's differed is that the vaccination rates have been very low for the elderly, and that's a big difference with, say, the U.S. or European countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The young have almost perfect compliance, but the elderly population, those over 65, even those over 80, have very low vaccination rates. And part of that is that they're just really afraid of side effects and suffering problems from that. And the way they see it is that if they don't get vaccinated, the probability of getting ill is very low, a belief driven in part by the country's initially very low COVID rates. And I think that's just a result of poor messaging from public health officials in China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How has China's zero-COVID policy affected school-aged kids in the country?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>KERRY ALLEN:\u003c/strong> Well, one thing that's been really interesting to me is there was a period of time in China when you would see daily reports on U.S. kids and how it affected them. China very much wanted to stress that this was a big problem in the U.S., that the children were facing physical and mental health problems as a result of COVID-19 and, as state media saw it, the lax government rules that were applied in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in China, I've seen similar struggles. There's been this whole campaign of \"tang ping\" culture, this \"lying flat,\" that particularly young people now are so burnt out, so frustrated, being told that they constantly need to be embracing the government's message, doing more, helping out with the economy. They feel stressed out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I remember when lockdowns were first lifted in some communities. Children were still going back to school wearing masks, and they were crying because they couldn't recognize their teachers and their friends anymore. So you could see that this had a big impact on children, the lockdowns in particular, because for a long period of time, they had been studying from home and felt isolated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How important is it to have protests of solidarity outside of China, like the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11933614/sf-chinatown-vigil-pushes-back-against-chinas-anti-covid-lockdowns\">recent vigil that was held in Chinatown in San Francisco\u003c/a>? Does it have any impact on what's happening in China?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>VICTOR SHIH:\u003c/strong> I think the protests both in China and also overseas are having a very enormous medium-term impact. In the literature on protests, one of the deepest insights, I think, is from \u003ca href=\"https://sites.duke.edu/timurkuran/\">Professor Timur Kuran\u003c/a>, who's at Duke University. \u003ca href=\"https://sites.duke.edu/timurkuran/2019/07/17/podcast-the-good-fight-with-yacha-mounk/\">His insight\u003c/a> is that with protests, especially in authoritarian regimes, people who previously have been very isolated from each other, who didn't know that other people felt the same way, when they showed up on the streets, they all realized that actually there are quite a number of people who feel the same as them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is especially true in China, but also true outside of China, where, of course, a lot of people who have been unhappy with the Chinese government have left China and have come especially to the United States. But they didn't know that there were so many others like them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So with these protests, they suddenly realized that there's actually quite a large community of people who are just like them. This \"information revelation,\" which is what we call it in the literature, will encourage them to participate in further protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, of course, this mechanism will be especially strong overseas where there is not the threat of arrest when you participate in anti-Chinese government protests. 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Many fear retaliation against themselves and their loved ones in China. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But over the past week, hundreds of people have attended candlelight vigils in multiple cities, including San Jose and San Francisco. These protests have been held to support people in China and to remember the 10 people who died in an apartment fire in China’s Xinjiang province. 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Holding electric candles to the sky, mourners turned out by the hundreds to honor \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/27/world/asia/china-covid-protest.html\">10 who died in an apartment fire in Xinjiang, China\u003c/a>, last week.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"John, protester\"]'A lot of people that I know, or I don’t know, are still in jail for the time being for dissatisfaction with the current regime.’[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I know in life’s sorrow you are on the verge of drowning. May your tears flee with yesterday, blown away with the wind,” the Chinatown crowd sang, in Mandarin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The song, “Tomorrow Will Be Better,” is a 1980s pop song similar in tone to John Lennon's “Imagine,” which has been widely used by pro-democracy Chinese movements — appropriate then, as this vigil also pushed for political change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/FitzTheReporter/status/1597814829539958784\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The deaths of 10 ethnic Uyghurs in that apartment fire needn’t have happened, protesters in San Francisco and across the world claim. Reportedly, China’s\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/11/30/1139848234/is-chinas-zero-covid-policy-even-possible-with-omicron-and-its-subvariants\"> zero-COVID policies\u003c/a> were so strict that barriers meant to keep people quarantined inside barred emergency crews from quelling the deadly fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was horrifying. We've seen people scream, screaming people from the buildings. And there's no, basically no way for them to escape,” said one protester in San Francisco, who spoke under condition of anonymity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The protester is a student from China living in the Bay Area and said she joined the Portsmouth Square vigil because people “need to do something, as a human with sanity, to not just spread the truth, but also penetrate the lies the government has been telling everybody.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She also feared for her own family, who remain in China and could be swept up not only in the government’s strict COVID quarantine methods, but in the Chinese government’s backlash against protesters, should she use her name publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It could be anyone. It could be my parents. It could be my uncle. It could be my friend’s parents. If I don’t feel for them now, that could be me. It’s just horrifying,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More than a dozen of the people KQED reporters spoke to declined to be interviewed, for fear of family, friends and loved ones who might face punishment from government actors back home in China. Even those who did agree to an interview did not wish to be identified by name, and will be quoted anonymously in keeping with KQED’s policy on granting anonymity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11933665\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11933665\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-800x602.jpg\" alt='A person wearing a mask holds a sign reading \"China lies, people die\" in a crowd of people.' width=\"800\" height=\"602\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-800x602.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-1020x768.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-1536x1157.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-2048x1542.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-1920x1446.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A protester holds a sign reading 'China Lies, People Die' at a vigil for 10 people killed in Xinjiang, China, earlier in the month, in San Francisco's Chinatown on Nov. 29, 2022. \u003ccite>(Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“A lot of people that I know, or I don’t know, are still in jail for the time being for dissatisfaction with the current regime,” said John, a protester who would identify himself only by his first name when speaking to KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the risk, protesters in the Bay Area rallied in solidarity vigils from \u003ca href=\"https://mobile.twitter.com/Katherineli_/status/1597499901231136768\">Berkeley\u003c/a> to \u003ca href=\"https://mobile.twitter.com/YifanYuNews/status/1597800507451445248\">San José\u003c/a> and San Francisco, joining \u003ca href=\"https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-students-take-aim-at-beijing-during-seoul-solidarity-protest/6856522.html\">a global call for China to ease its zero-COVID policy\u003c/a> that has placed millions under lockdown and quarantine, limiting their access to food and medicine while ravaging the nation’s economy and severely restricting travel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those lockdowns have affected people in the Bay Area as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edward Siu, who has owned a travel agency in Chinatown since 1981, said he lost 80% of his business giving tours in China amid the lockdowns. Federal and local funding has helped him keep the business open, but he’s burned through his savings, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They have been hurting a lot of business for us, for the travel business, on the airline business, too,” Siu said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Joyce Lam is an organizer with the Chinese Progressive Association. The organization’s members have said they’ve had trouble seeing family for three years in the face of strict quarantine lockdowns in China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11933664\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11933664\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-800x602.jpg\" alt=\"A woman and man hold a piece of paper in front of their faces next to a crowd outdoors.\" width=\"800\" height=\"602\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-800x602.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-1020x768.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-1536x1157.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-2048x1542.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-1920x1446.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A protester holds a blank white piece of paper symbolizing the 'white paper revolution' in Portsmouth Square, a public space in San Francisco's Chinatown, on Nov. 29, 2022, during a vigil for 10 people killed in Xinjiang, China, earlier in the month. \u003ccite>(Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>And they worry for their families back home for other reasons, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We've had members share stories about their family who don't even want to leave the house for fear of not just infection, but really what comes with infection,” Lam said. “In China, you would get a red code (in a COVID-monitoring phone app) and you would get quarantined for a long period of time. Your family, your entire building, essentially the community that you live in might be in quarantine when one person gets infected.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The protests in China are notable for even existing in \u003ca href=\"https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/china-and-tibet\">a country that arrests those practicing civil disobedience\u003c/a>. Those China-based rallies have vocally mocked the government’s ever-changing line of reasoning, as well as claims that “hostile outside foreign forces” were stirring the wave of anger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was echoed in signage seen in the San Francisco protests. Some read, “China Lies, People Die,” and others featured splashes of red smeared across photos of Chinese President Xi Jinping.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some change has already come in the days following the first protests: Two large cities in China, Guangzhou and Chongqing, \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/world/china/covid-protests-escalate-guangzhou-china-lockdown-anger-boils-2022-11-30/\">announced Wednesday they would ease some COVID restrictions\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Following the largest street demonstrations in decades, by citizens fed up with strict anti-virus restrictions, China’s ruling Communist Party vowed to “resolutely crack down on infiltration.” A massive show of force by the security services Wednesday sought to deter further protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates call it the “white paper revolution,” with protesters across the world, including at Portsmouth Square in Chinatown Tuesday night, holding up blank pieces of paper by candlelight to highlight the Chinese government’s restriction of any news about those protests, as well as its reported retaliation against those in China who even speak in support of the mass movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That fear of retaliation can hold back organizers in the Bay Area, said another anonymous protester, a tech-industry worker at the Chinatown vigil who feared reprisal against her family should she be identified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I hold all this fear in myself, and hope something happens. I hope the wave could be stronger, stronger, stronger, and some change actually happens,” she said. Being unable to speak out, she said, “my whole body is paralyzed. Like I couldn’t do anything. I feel like I was shocked and numb, and I was so angry, but I couldn’t speak.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/FitzTheReporter/status/1597794939521290240\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But perhaps even more frightening to her is that her family back in China believes what she believes to be government falsehoods. WeChat, a dominant social media app in China, is heavily monitored, the protester said, so she sees a lot of information about China’s COVID policies that her parents do not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Media reports and video of the protests flourished online in China before being scrubbed by government censors. The rallies have been ignored entirely by the strictly controlled state media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m definitely worried about them. But the thing is, like, they won’t share bad news to me, and I’m not there,” she said. “It’s a 'God bless us' situation. The physical distance, there’s nothing I can do.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As she spoke, the crowd began to sing behind her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Being around her fellow protesters, she said, “I feel not lonely. Maybe me alone, I’m scared. But with them, I can feel more brave.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The Associated Press contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Protesters rallied at Portsmouth Square despite stated fears that their families back in China may face retaliation for any civil disobedience.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1669931729,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":32,"wordCount":1368},"headData":{"title":"SF Chinatown Vigil Pushes Back Against China's Anti-COVID Lockdowns | KQED","description":"Protesters rallied at Portsmouth Square despite stated fears that their families back in China may face retaliation for any civil disobedience.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"SF Chinatown Vigil Pushes Back Against China's Anti-COVID Lockdowns","datePublished":"2022-12-01T01:38:12.000Z","dateModified":"2022-12-01T21:55:29.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11933614/sf-chinatown-vigil-pushes-back-against-chinas-anti-covid-lockdowns","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A chorus of voices sang out at a vigil in San Francisco’s Chinatown on Tuesday night. Holding electric candles to the sky, mourners turned out by the hundreds to honor \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/27/world/asia/china-covid-protest.html\">10 who died in an apartment fire in Xinjiang, China\u003c/a>, last week.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'A lot of people that I know, or I don’t know, are still in jail for the time being for dissatisfaction with the current regime.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"John, protester","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I know in life’s sorrow you are on the verge of drowning. May your tears flee with yesterday, blown away with the wind,” the Chinatown crowd sang, in Mandarin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The song, “Tomorrow Will Be Better,” is a 1980s pop song similar in tone to John Lennon's “Imagine,” which has been widely used by pro-democracy Chinese movements — appropriate then, as this vigil also pushed for political change.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1597814829539958784"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>The deaths of 10 ethnic Uyghurs in that apartment fire needn’t have happened, protesters in San Francisco and across the world claim. Reportedly, China’s\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/11/30/1139848234/is-chinas-zero-covid-policy-even-possible-with-omicron-and-its-subvariants\"> zero-COVID policies\u003c/a> were so strict that barriers meant to keep people quarantined inside barred emergency crews from quelling the deadly fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was horrifying. We've seen people scream, screaming people from the buildings. And there's no, basically no way for them to escape,” said one protester in San Francisco, who spoke under condition of anonymity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The protester is a student from China living in the Bay Area and said she joined the Portsmouth Square vigil because people “need to do something, as a human with sanity, to not just spread the truth, but also penetrate the lies the government has been telling everybody.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She also feared for her own family, who remain in China and could be swept up not only in the government’s strict COVID quarantine methods, but in the Chinese government’s backlash against protesters, should she use her name publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It could be anyone. It could be my parents. It could be my uncle. It could be my friend’s parents. If I don’t feel for them now, that could be me. It’s just horrifying,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More than a dozen of the people KQED reporters spoke to declined to be interviewed, for fear of family, friends and loved ones who might face punishment from government actors back home in China. Even those who did agree to an interview did not wish to be identified by name, and will be quoted anonymously in keeping with KQED’s policy on granting anonymity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11933665\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11933665\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-800x602.jpg\" alt='A person wearing a mask holds a sign reading \"China lies, people die\" in a crowd of people.' width=\"800\" height=\"602\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-800x602.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-1020x768.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-1536x1157.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-2048x1542.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/FFCC0C2F-169F-4585-9052-3281CAF47D95-1920x1446.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A protester holds a sign reading 'China Lies, People Die' at a vigil for 10 people killed in Xinjiang, China, earlier in the month, in San Francisco's Chinatown on Nov. 29, 2022. \u003ccite>(Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“A lot of people that I know, or I don’t know, are still in jail for the time being for dissatisfaction with the current regime,” said John, a protester who would identify himself only by his first name when speaking to KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the risk, protesters in the Bay Area rallied in solidarity vigils from \u003ca href=\"https://mobile.twitter.com/Katherineli_/status/1597499901231136768\">Berkeley\u003c/a> to \u003ca href=\"https://mobile.twitter.com/YifanYuNews/status/1597800507451445248\">San José\u003c/a> and San Francisco, joining \u003ca href=\"https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-students-take-aim-at-beijing-during-seoul-solidarity-protest/6856522.html\">a global call for China to ease its zero-COVID policy\u003c/a> that has placed millions under lockdown and quarantine, limiting their access to food and medicine while ravaging the nation’s economy and severely restricting travel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those lockdowns have affected people in the Bay Area as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edward Siu, who has owned a travel agency in Chinatown since 1981, said he lost 80% of his business giving tours in China amid the lockdowns. Federal and local funding has helped him keep the business open, but he’s burned through his savings, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They have been hurting a lot of business for us, for the travel business, on the airline business, too,” Siu said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Joyce Lam is an organizer with the Chinese Progressive Association. The organization’s members have said they’ve had trouble seeing family for three years in the face of strict quarantine lockdowns in China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11933664\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11933664\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-800x602.jpg\" alt=\"A woman and man hold a piece of paper in front of their faces next to a crowd outdoors.\" width=\"800\" height=\"602\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-800x602.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-1020x768.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-1536x1157.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-2048x1542.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/11/8BCCCAF5-D5A7-461F-AAE5-EFB672E8F83B-1920x1446.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A protester holds a blank white piece of paper symbolizing the 'white paper revolution' in Portsmouth Square, a public space in San Francisco's Chinatown, on Nov. 29, 2022, during a vigil for 10 people killed in Xinjiang, China, earlier in the month. \u003ccite>(Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>And they worry for their families back home for other reasons, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We've had members share stories about their family who don't even want to leave the house for fear of not just infection, but really what comes with infection,” Lam said. “In China, you would get a red code (in a COVID-monitoring phone app) and you would get quarantined for a long period of time. Your family, your entire building, essentially the community that you live in might be in quarantine when one person gets infected.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The protests in China are notable for even existing in \u003ca href=\"https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/china-and-tibet\">a country that arrests those practicing civil disobedience\u003c/a>. Those China-based rallies have vocally mocked the government’s ever-changing line of reasoning, as well as claims that “hostile outside foreign forces” were stirring the wave of anger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was echoed in signage seen in the San Francisco protests. Some read, “China Lies, People Die,” and others featured splashes of red smeared across photos of Chinese President Xi Jinping.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some change has already come in the days following the first protests: Two large cities in China, Guangzhou and Chongqing, \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/world/china/covid-protests-escalate-guangzhou-china-lockdown-anger-boils-2022-11-30/\">announced Wednesday they would ease some COVID restrictions\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Following the largest street demonstrations in decades, by citizens fed up with strict anti-virus restrictions, China’s ruling Communist Party vowed to “resolutely crack down on infiltration.” A massive show of force by the security services Wednesday sought to deter further protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates call it the “white paper revolution,” with protesters across the world, including at Portsmouth Square in Chinatown Tuesday night, holding up blank pieces of paper by candlelight to highlight the Chinese government’s restriction of any news about those protests, as well as its reported retaliation against those in China who even speak in support of the mass movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That fear of retaliation can hold back organizers in the Bay Area, said another anonymous protester, a tech-industry worker at the Chinatown vigil who feared reprisal against her family should she be identified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I hold all this fear in myself, and hope something happens. I hope the wave could be stronger, stronger, stronger, and some change actually happens,” she said. Being unable to speak out, she said, “my whole body is paralyzed. Like I couldn’t do anything. I feel like I was shocked and numb, and I was so angry, but I couldn’t speak.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1597794939521290240"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>But perhaps even more frightening to her is that her family back in China believes what she believes to be government falsehoods. WeChat, a dominant social media app in China, is heavily monitored, the protester said, so she sees a lot of information about China’s COVID policies that her parents do not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Media reports and video of the protests flourished online in China before being scrubbed by government censors. The rallies have been ignored entirely by the strictly controlled state media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m definitely worried about them. But the thing is, like, they won’t share bad news to me, and I’m not there,” she said. “It’s a 'God bless us' situation. The physical distance, there’s nothing I can do.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As she spoke, the crowd began to sing behind her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Being around her fellow protesters, she said, “I feel not lonely. Maybe me alone, I’m scared. But with them, I can feel more brave.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The Associated Press contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11933614/sf-chinatown-vigil-pushes-back-against-chinas-anti-covid-lockdowns","authors":["11690"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_18378","news_393","news_32067","news_32069","news_745","news_32068"],"featImg":"news_11933663","label":"news"},"news_11842951":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11842951","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11842951","score":null,"sort":[1603285222000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"bay-area-uighurs-respond-to-investigation-of-goods-linked-to-forced-labor-in-china","title":"Bay Area Uighurs Respond to Investigation of Goods Linked to Forced Labor in China","publishDate":1603285222,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>A shipment of women’s gloves at a California port has been traced to a factory that uses the forced labor of people caught up in a brutal crackdown on ethnic minorities in China, U.S. authorities said last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Customs and Border Protection said the shipment of 1,900 pairs of gloves will be held at the Port of Los Angeles/Long Beach unless the American company that was seeking to import the material can prove it wasn’t made with forced labor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Overland, a retailer based in Fairfield, Iowa, was seeking to import the gloves and says it has provided proof to U.S. Customs that the goods were not made with forced labor and should be released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Customs officials said the gloves were made by the Yili Zhuowan Garment Manufacturing Company in Xinjiang, a region of northwestern China where the government has imprisoned more than 1 million Uighurs and other mostly Muslim minorities as part of an ethnic assimilation campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last month, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/forced-labor-global-trade-china-archive-race-and-ethnicity-0a2b64d4b2dfee8dc6be8d402a96ecbe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the Trump administration identified Yili\u003c/a> as one of several companies suspected of forcing people into the equivalent of modern-day slavery and said it would be prohibited from importing goods into the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Trump administration, which has clashed with China on a range of issues including trade and the coronavirus outbreak, has also increased enforcement of a U.S. law that bans the importation of goods made with forced labor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the law, the importer generally has three months to submit proof that the goods are not tainted. If not, the goods are seized and typically destroyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Overland, which specializes in outerwear, said an independent inspection company in China evaluated conditions at the facility in Xinjiang and determined there were no abusive conditions, said Linda Vivier, director of inventory at the family-owned company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Obviously, Overland wants to make sure everybody is safe and well taken care of, and that’s the reason we have this third-party inspection company that can go to each factory and make sure that everybody is being treated well and fairly and that we are in compliance,” Vivier said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their report has been submitted to Customs and Border Protection (CBP). They are awaiting a response and hope to retrieve the gloves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some Bay Area Uighurs, the recent news is a step in the right direction, but it still leaves many hoping for more awareness and action from state and national officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Most of the people in the Bay Area don't know\" about the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/world/asia/china-xinjiang-muslims-labor.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">plight of Uighurs in China\u003c/a>, said Anna, who requested that her real name be withheld for fear of retribution against her family, who still live in Xinjiang. \"If I meet anyone, including my neighbors, they don't know.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anna has sporadic contact with her family, and said she can't call them, because even that could get them sent to work camps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's really hard not knowing if they are OK,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Bay Area Uighur population is small, comprised of roughly 100 families. Another Uighur, Alim, who also requested that his name be withheld, has been in the Bay Area for 20 years, and said he hasn't spoken to his family for at least three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He's been working to educate others about what is happening in what he called \"Nazi-style camps\" in China, where Uighurs are imprisoned for anything from \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51520622\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">having a beard to browsing the Internet\u003c/a>. Alim said China exploits cheap labor, including that of people incarcerated in work camps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's how it works in China, and prison labor is the cheapest,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alim acknowledged that it's hard to track where a product comes from in terms of sourcing, but said, \"As an American, let's demand it is not made with slave labor.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other labor and human rights groups say it’s impossible to conduct legitimate inspections in Xinjiang — called East Turkestan by many Uighurs — because of the oppressive conditions there. The Chinese Communist Party has an intensive surveillance network as part of its campaign to force ethnically distinct minorities to assimilate into the dominant culture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. officials say it’s up to companies doing business in the United States to ensure their supply chains are free of material made under coercive conditions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“CBP will not tolerate modern slavery in U.S. commerce,” Brenda Smith, executive assistant commissioner of the agency’s Office of Trade, said in a statement announcing the detention of the glove shipment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A bipartisan bill that would declare that all goods manufactured in Xinjiang are the product of forced labor — and therefore banned from the country — passed overwhelmingly last month in the House of Representatives. If enacted, it could have significant effects on commerce since the region is a major source of cotton and other goods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>China has denied widespread and consistent reports of abuse and mistreatment of the Uighurs and other minorities, defending the campaign as an effort to crackdown on extremism and claiming the detention camps are for vocational and Chinese language training.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED's Lakshmi Sarah and \u003c/em>\u003cem>Associated Press writer Martha Mendoza in Santa Cruz, California, contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"'As an American, let's demand it is not made with slave labor,' said one Bay Area who is part of the Bay Area Uighur community.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1603328796,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":876},"headData":{"title":"Bay Area Uighurs Respond to Investigation of Goods Linked to Forced Labor in China | KQED","description":"'As an American, let's demand it is not made with slave labor,' said one Bay Area who is part of the Bay Area Uighur community.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Bay Area Uighurs Respond to Investigation of Goods Linked to Forced Labor in China","datePublished":"2020-10-21T13:00:22.000Z","dateModified":"2020-10-22T01:06:36.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11842951 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11842951","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/10/21/bay-area-uighurs-respond-to-investigation-of-goods-linked-to-forced-labor-in-china/","disqusTitle":"Bay Area Uighurs Respond to Investigation of Goods Linked to Forced Labor in China","nprByline":"Ben Fox \u003cbr> Associated Press","path":"/news/11842951/bay-area-uighurs-respond-to-investigation-of-goods-linked-to-forced-labor-in-china","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A shipment of women’s gloves at a California port has been traced to a factory that uses the forced labor of people caught up in a brutal crackdown on ethnic minorities in China, U.S. authorities said last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Customs and Border Protection said the shipment of 1,900 pairs of gloves will be held at the Port of Los Angeles/Long Beach unless the American company that was seeking to import the material can prove it wasn’t made with forced labor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Overland, a retailer based in Fairfield, Iowa, was seeking to import the gloves and says it has provided proof to U.S. Customs that the goods were not made with forced labor and should be released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Customs officials said the gloves were made by the Yili Zhuowan Garment Manufacturing Company in Xinjiang, a region of northwestern China where the government has imprisoned more than 1 million Uighurs and other mostly Muslim minorities as part of an ethnic assimilation campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last month, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/forced-labor-global-trade-china-archive-race-and-ethnicity-0a2b64d4b2dfee8dc6be8d402a96ecbe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the Trump administration identified Yili\u003c/a> as one of several companies suspected of forcing people into the equivalent of modern-day slavery and said it would be prohibited from importing goods into the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Trump administration, which has clashed with China on a range of issues including trade and the coronavirus outbreak, has also increased enforcement of a U.S. law that bans the importation of goods made with forced labor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the law, the importer generally has three months to submit proof that the goods are not tainted. If not, the goods are seized and typically destroyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Overland, which specializes in outerwear, said an independent inspection company in China evaluated conditions at the facility in Xinjiang and determined there were no abusive conditions, said Linda Vivier, director of inventory at the family-owned company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Obviously, Overland wants to make sure everybody is safe and well taken care of, and that’s the reason we have this third-party inspection company that can go to each factory and make sure that everybody is being treated well and fairly and that we are in compliance,” Vivier said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their report has been submitted to Customs and Border Protection (CBP). They are awaiting a response and hope to retrieve the gloves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some Bay Area Uighurs, the recent news is a step in the right direction, but it still leaves many hoping for more awareness and action from state and national officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Most of the people in the Bay Area don't know\" about the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/world/asia/china-xinjiang-muslims-labor.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">plight of Uighurs in China\u003c/a>, said Anna, who requested that her real name be withheld for fear of retribution against her family, who still live in Xinjiang. \"If I meet anyone, including my neighbors, they don't know.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anna has sporadic contact with her family, and said she can't call them, because even that could get them sent to work camps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's really hard not knowing if they are OK,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Bay Area Uighur population is small, comprised of roughly 100 families. Another Uighur, Alim, who also requested that his name be withheld, has been in the Bay Area for 20 years, and said he hasn't spoken to his family for at least three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He's been working to educate others about what is happening in what he called \"Nazi-style camps\" in China, where Uighurs are imprisoned for anything from \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51520622\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">having a beard to browsing the Internet\u003c/a>. Alim said China exploits cheap labor, including that of people incarcerated in work camps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's how it works in China, and prison labor is the cheapest,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alim acknowledged that it's hard to track where a product comes from in terms of sourcing, but said, \"As an American, let's demand it is not made with slave labor.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other labor and human rights groups say it’s impossible to conduct legitimate inspections in Xinjiang — called East Turkestan by many Uighurs — because of the oppressive conditions there. 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There are also thousands of graduates from Wuhan-based universities who call the Bay Area home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So on January 23, when Chinese officials locked down the city in an effort to contain the COVID-19 virus, Tom Gong sprung into action in the South Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong, who attended university in Wuhan and now lives in San Jose, connected online with fellow alumni and others with ties to the city of 11 million people to figure out how to help.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The lockdown really sent a signal to us that [the] situation is very, very bad,” Gong said, “So we acted quickly.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong says the the group, now called \u003ca href=\"https://wuhanunited.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wuhan United\u003c/a>, began as four or five individuals and expanded to more than 30 people in a week.[pullquote citation='Zongchao Li, of Wuhan United']“It’s our hometown. You know, we care. And we just want to do what we can to help them.” [/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to work together to send much needed medical supplies from [the] U.S. to China to help the hospitals in Wuhan,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The team, which often discusses plans over WeChat or Zoom video, mostly includes graduates from two universities: \u003ca class=\"name-subtitle\" href=\"http://www.hust.edu.cn\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Huazhong University of Science and Technology,\u003c/a> where Gong studied, and \u003ca href=\"https://en.whu.edu.cn/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wuhan University\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zongchao Li, who handles communications for Wuhan United, said the group kept hearing reports from family and friends in Wuhan about nurses and doctors working around the clock with little rest and dwindling supplies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It gets very emotional for everybody,” Li said. “And it’s our hometown. You know, we care. And we just want to do what we can to help them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_1957053\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1957053\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">29 pallets of medical supplies, weighing more than three tons, were delivered to Wuhan’s Tongji Hospital on Feb. 11, 2020. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Wuhan United)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Wuhan United partners with nonprofits like \u003ca href=\"https://www.directrelief.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Direct Relief\u003c/a> to deliver protective gear like gloves and masks to hospitals treating patients and working to containing the outbreak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong said these relief organizations have the supplies, but need help navigating the logistics of making sure these shipments from the U.S. get into the hands of health workers in Wuhan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s where Wuhan United comes in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group helps with paperwork like customs forms and legal documents that donors need to sign in order for hospitals to receive the supplies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong said his experience doing business in China, along with the group’s contacts in Wuhan’s government, industry and health care sectors, has helped make their work possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once the shipments arrive in China via FedEx, Li said, the group’s network of family and friends in Wuhan help coordinate delivery to hospitals in the area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first shipment arranged by Wuhan United contained 17 pallets of medical supplies that weighed about about 2.5 tons. It arrived at Wuhan Union Hospital on January 31, just over a week after the group first rallied online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In several shipments, Gong estimated they’ve delivered more than 1 million items of protective equipment. The team is preparing another scheduled to depart on Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong, who was born in Wuhan, said the effects of the Wuhan coronavirus will likely “trickle down to all corners of society.” He has brothers still living in the city and his wife has sisters working in hospitals there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No one is prepared to handle this kind of situation,” he said. “People in Wuhan are suffering. We really appreciate [if] you can understand more about their life and help them as much as you can.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A group of Wuhan natives living in the Bay Area have rallied to help deliver medical supplies to hospitals in China.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1704847772,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":640},"headData":{"title":"Wuhan Natives Living in the Bay Area Organize Long-Distance Coronavirus Relief | KQED","description":"A group of Wuhan natives living in the Bay Area have rallied to help deliver medical supplies to hospitals in China.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Wuhan Natives Living in the Bay Area Organize Long-Distance Coronavirus Relief","datePublished":"2020-02-14T20:39:38.000Z","dateModified":"2024-01-10T00:49:32.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"source":"Public Health","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/561375e7-3c19-45ab-9d11-ab610144af88/audio.mp3","sticky":false,"path":"/science/1956946/wuhan-natives-living-in-the-bay-area-organize-long-distance-coronavirus-relief","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>There are 15 confirmed cases of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">new coronavirus\u003c/a> in the United States, compared with more than 40,000 in China, where the virus first surfaced in Wuhan City. There are also thousands of graduates from Wuhan-based universities who call the Bay Area home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So on January 23, when Chinese officials locked down the city in an effort to contain the COVID-19 virus, Tom Gong sprung into action in the South Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong, who attended university in Wuhan and now lives in San Jose, connected online with fellow alumni and others with ties to the city of 11 million people to figure out how to help.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The lockdown really sent a signal to us that [the] situation is very, very bad,” Gong said, “So we acted quickly.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong says the the group, now called \u003ca href=\"https://wuhanunited.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wuhan United\u003c/a>, began as four or five individuals and expanded to more than 30 people in a week.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"“It’s our hometown. You know, we care. And we just want to do what we can to help them.” ","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"citation":"Zongchao Li, of Wuhan United","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to work together to send much needed medical supplies from [the] U.S. to China to help the hospitals in Wuhan,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The team, which often discusses plans over WeChat or Zoom video, mostly includes graduates from two universities: \u003ca class=\"name-subtitle\" href=\"http://www.hust.edu.cn\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Huazhong University of Science and Technology,\u003c/a> where Gong studied, and \u003ca href=\"https://en.whu.edu.cn/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wuhan University\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Zongchao Li, who handles communications for Wuhan United, said the group kept hearing reports from family and friends in Wuhan about nurses and doctors working around the clock with little rest and dwindling supplies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It gets very emotional for everybody,” Li said. “And it’s our hometown. 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And we just want to do what we can to help them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_1957053\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1957053\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2020/02/Wuhan-United-Image-4-copy-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">29 pallets of medical supplies, weighing more than three tons, were delivered to Wuhan’s Tongji Hospital on Feb. 11, 2020. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Wuhan United)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Wuhan United partners with nonprofits like \u003ca href=\"https://www.directrelief.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Direct Relief\u003c/a> to deliver protective gear like gloves and masks to hospitals treating patients and working to containing the outbreak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong said these relief organizations have the supplies, but need help navigating the logistics of making sure these shipments from the U.S. get into the hands of health workers in Wuhan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s where Wuhan United comes in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group helps with paperwork like customs forms and legal documents that donors need to sign in order for hospitals to receive the supplies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong said his experience doing business in China, along with the group’s contacts in Wuhan’s government, industry and health care sectors, has helped make their work possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once the shipments arrive in China via FedEx, Li said, the group’s network of family and friends in Wuhan help coordinate delivery to hospitals in the area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first shipment arranged by Wuhan United contained 17 pallets of medical supplies that weighed about about 2.5 tons. It arrived at Wuhan Union Hospital on January 31, just over a week after the group first rallied online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In several shipments, Gong estimated they’ve delivered more than 1 million items of protective equipment. The team is preparing another scheduled to depart on Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gong, who was born in Wuhan, said the effects of the Wuhan coronavirus will likely “trickle down to all corners of society.” He has brothers still living in the city and his wife has sisters working in hospitals there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No one is prepared to handle this kind of situation,” he said. “People in Wuhan are suffering. We really appreciate [if] you can understand more about their life and help them as much as you can.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/science/1956946/wuhan-natives-living-in-the-bay-area-organize-long-distance-coronavirus-relief","authors":["11368","11495"],"categories":["science_39","science_3890","science_40"],"tags":["science_4329","science_4368"],"featImg":"science_1957032","label":"source_science_1956946"},"news_11799364":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11799364","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11799364","score":null,"sort":[1580508441000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"separating-fact-from-crazed-conspiracy-fiction","title":"Separating Fact From Crazed Conspiracy Fiction","publishDate":1580508441,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Mark Fiore: Drawn to the Bay | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":18515,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>No, bleach is not a good elixir, and coronavirus is \u003ca href=\"http://bit.ly/fiorecoronavirus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">not related to beer\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Let's all take a deep breath (with a face mask on if you prefer), and calm down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Social media is of course magnifying conspiracy theories — but the danger of becoming infected in the United States is extremely low.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's time to \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/adrienneshih/status/1222986183778689024?s=20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">skip the xenophobia\u003c/a>, get that flu shot if you haven't already and wash your hands regularly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I know I'm a cartoonist and not a doctor, but even I know drinking bleach is not a good idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"No, bleach is not a good elixir and coronavirus is not related to beer. 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I’ve wondered whether I have reason to be. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last week I talked with more than a dozen people who had just left the epicenter of the Chinese outbreak. They were passengers on the last direct flight between Wuhan, China and San Francisco International Airport. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Fortunately, public health workers screened all of them to ensure they were not infected. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The disease (2019-nCoV), thought to originate in Wuhan, has sickened more than 80,000 people in 46 countries and killed 2,794 people. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That sounds terrifying, and it is. \u003cem>In China\u003c/em>. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the U.S., the real threat to my health and yours is this year’s flu. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">estimates\u003c/a> influenza has caused hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths in the U.S. this season. The fatalities include 105 children.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003c/b>“This new coronavirus is mysterious,” said Dr. William Schaffner, \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University.\u003c/span>\u003cb>\u003c/b>\u003cem> “\u003c/em>\u003cspan data-pm-slice='1 1 [\"paragraph-wrapper\",null,\"paragraph\",null]'>The experts don’t know very much about this virus yet and what it does. An\u003c/span>d so it’s it’s not surprising that here in the United States we have an outbreak of coronavirus anxiety.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As of this writing, health authorities have confirmed 60 cases of novel coronavirus in the U.S. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>How Deadly is the Flu?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1918 influenza pandemic\u003c/a> infected one-third of the world’s population and killed close to 50 million people. A century ago, public health was very different. These days the flu kills, on average, 10-40,000 Americans a year. Usually the risk is greatest for older people or anyone with a preexisting condition. Kids appear to be especially sensitive to this year’s flu.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We in infectious diseases regard influenza with great seriousness,” Schaffner said. “And that’s why, of course, we urge vaccination.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He highly recommends regular hand washing. Public health experts do not recommend wearing a mask to ward off either the flu or the coronavirus. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How Contagious is the Novel Coronavirus?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The novel coronavirus is thought to have originated in a seafood market in Wuhan, the political, cultural and economic hub of central China. Scientists have not yet identified the animal host, or the way the virus spread to humans. Now it passes from \u003ca href=\"https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">person to person\u003c/a> through respiratory droplets from coughs or sneezes, pretty much like the flu and the common cold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There are no confirmed cases in northern California. If that changes, public health officials in the region say they’re ready. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have physicians staffing call lines 24 hours a day all week,” said \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dr. Susan Philip at the San Francisco Department of Public Health’s emergency command center. “\u003c/span>And we are able to communicate and advise providers and emergency departments about how to proceed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Philip urges anyone who has recently traveled to China to see a doctor if they experience flu-like symptoms like a cough, shortness of breath, or fever. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>How Lethal is the Novel Coronavirus?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s very difficult to know how deadly the novel coronavirus is because it’s still very early in the outbreak. According to statistics published Feb 24 in \u003cem>JAMA, \u003c/em>2.3% of infected patients have died. Half of the fatalities have occurred in patients 70 and older. That’s worse than the seasonal flu, and better than two earlier coronaviruses you may have heard about. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In 2003 \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/sars/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome\u003c/a> (SARS)\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> killed 774 people. That virus originated in civets, a mammal native to tropical Asia and Africa. It killed about one in ten people who were infected. The \u003ca href=\"https://www.who.int/emergencies/mers-cov/en/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Middle East Respiratory Syndrome\u003c/a> (MERS), which originated in camels, has killed 858 people since 2012. About one in three people who contract MERS die. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dr. Charles Chiu, an infectious disease specialist at UCSF, said the novel coronavirus will change as it evolves in humans. \u003c/span>\u003cb>\u003c/b>“It will continue to mutate and continue to circulate as long as there are infections ongoing. There is a potential that the virus could mutate into a form that may be more or less transmissible, or more or less virulent.\u003ci>“\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"This season the flu has killed more 8,200 people in the U.S., including 54 children. 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They were passengers on the last direct flight between Wuhan, China and San Francisco International Airport. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Fortunately, public health workers screened all of them to ensure they were not infected. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The disease (2019-nCoV), thought to originate in Wuhan, has sickened more than 80,000 people in 46 countries and killed 2,794 people. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That sounds terrifying, and it is. \u003cem>In China\u003c/em>. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the U.S., the real threat to my health and yours is this year’s flu. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">estimates\u003c/a> influenza has caused hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths in the U.S. this season. The fatalities include 105 children.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003c/b>“This new coronavirus is mysterious,” said Dr. William Schaffner, \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University.\u003c/span>\u003cb>\u003c/b>\u003cem> “\u003c/em>\u003cspan data-pm-slice='1 1 [\"paragraph-wrapper\",null,\"paragraph\",null]'>The experts don’t know very much about this virus yet and what it does. An\u003c/span>d so it’s it’s not surprising that here in the United States we have an outbreak of coronavirus anxiety.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As of this writing, health authorities have confirmed 60 cases of novel coronavirus in the U.S. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>How Deadly is the Flu?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1918 influenza pandemic\u003c/a> infected one-third of the world’s population and killed close to 50 million people. A century ago, public health was very different. These days the flu kills, on average, 10-40,000 Americans a year. Usually the risk is greatest for older people or anyone with a preexisting condition. Kids appear to be especially sensitive to this year’s flu.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We in infectious diseases regard influenza with great seriousness,” Schaffner said. “And that’s why, of course, we urge vaccination.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He highly recommends regular hand washing. Public health experts do not recommend wearing a mask to ward off either the flu or the coronavirus. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How Contagious is the Novel Coronavirus?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The novel coronavirus is thought to have originated in a seafood market in Wuhan, the political, cultural and economic hub of central China. Scientists have not yet identified the animal host, or the way the virus spread to humans. 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