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We have to take care of each other so we can care for others.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a recent outdoor mass at St. Elizabeth’s, Father Antonio Galindo spoke in Spanish from the pulpit about the changes. Dozens of parishioners sat on folding chairs 6 feet apart, and clutched their coats in the morning cold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The priest said the parish would abide by the pandemic restrictions currently in effect in Alameda and most Bay Area counties, which prohibit indoor mass and cap outdoor religious services to a maximum of 100 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mass would be livestreamed, he said, and no food vendors would crowd the street as in previous celebrations. The temple, where streams of people would drop bunches of red roses to an image of the virgin, would remain pretty much closed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ll set up a large altar by that tree over there,” Galindo told the masked congregation. “It won’t be as big as the one we’d have inside the temple, but people can still come and offer flowers and candles.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850973\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850973\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-536x402.jpg 536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Father Antonio Galindo officiates outdoor mass at St. Elizabeth's on Dec. 3, 2020, as a cellphone records the event for livestreaming. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Many of St. Elizabeth’s parishioners are Latino immigrants and essential workers. The area surrounding the church in the Fruitvale neighborhood is part of a cluster of ZIP codes that have struggled with the highest COVID-19 infection rates in the county for months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Galindo is keenly aware of the havoc the pandemic has wrought in the community. St. Elizabeth’s fundraises and distributes aid to people who’ve lost jobs so they can pay their rent. And Galindo, who said he regularly visits coronavirus patients, has presided over funerals as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So for the Day of Our Lady of Guadalupe, he offered a stern warning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If anyone has COVID-19, stay home,” he said. “We have to take care of each other so we can care for others.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Guillermina Jimenez\"]'Us Mexicans have all one mother, and her name is Our Lady of Guadalupe.'[/pullquote]After mass, Patricia Silva, 47, hurried home to her three children. She said she’d miss the sense of unity during the feast, but she understood the need to avoid crowds to protect public health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels sad and it hurts a little because one’s used to that experience of coming together before the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe,” said Silva, who has attended mass at St. Elizabeth’s for 14 years. “It’s like they are taking away our tradition of devotion to the virgin.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But given the circumstances, she said she would join the celebrations online from home. She has elderly relatives she wants to protect from the virus, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s for my safety and that of my family,” said Silva, who for previous celebrations also joined a large pilgrimage on foot from East Oakland to the city’s cathedral. This year, the Diocese of Oakland \u003ca href=\"https://oakdiocese.org/peregrinacion\">told\u003c/a> people to drive by in cars instead, which Bishop Michael Barber blessed from afar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850856\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11850856\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fr. Antonio Galindo stands inside St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland on Dec. 10, 2020. He said the parish would abide by the pandemic restrictions currently in effect in Alameda County, which prohibit indoor mass and cap outdoor religious services to a maximum of 100 people. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Other parishioners at St. Elizabeth’s said they trusted the church’s preparations to honor Our Lady of Guadalupe – as well as social distancing and mask wearing – to keep them safe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve always come in person,” said Guillermina Jimenez, 80, who has attended St. Elizabeth’s since 1976, when she first immigrated from Mexico to the U.S. with her husband.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jimenez said she would join the church festivities in person because of the day’s deep significance, which she has taught to her 15 children and 36 grandchildren.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Us Mexicans have all one mother, and her name is Our Lady of Guadalupe,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850969\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850969\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aspe Torres helps a woman leaving flowers at an altar for Our Lady of Guadalupe outside of St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland's Fruitvale neighborhood on Dec. 12, 2020, during an Our Lady of Guadalupe day celebration.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The story of Guadalupe starts in 1531, near what is now Mexico City. At the time, the Mexica, or Aztecs, were facing devastation and despair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Spanish conquistadores had killed millions of indigenous people after their arrival in the Americas, by both the sword and the new diseases they brought, including smallpox. The invaders destroyed many of the Aztecs' sacred temples in their bid to Christianize indigenous people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was in that context that an indigenous man known as Juan Diego saw a beautiful woman standing on Mount Tepeyac, a sacred hill for the prominent Aztec goddess Tonantzin, said Ana María Pineda, a religious studies professor at Santa Clara University.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850972\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850972\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Abarca family lights candles in honor of the Virgin of Guadalupe outside of St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland's Fruitvale neighborhood on Dec. 12, 2020, during an Our Lady of Guadalupe day celebration.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>During the encounter, which happened in the early hours of a December morning, everything about the way the lady looked meant something to Juan Diego, said Pineda. She was clothed in a turquoise mantle with stars – a sign of royalty and divinity. Her skin was brown, and she spoke to Juan Diego courteously and softly in the language of the Aztecs: Nahuatl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The conquistadores saw the indigenous people as counting for nothing,” said Pineda, a nun with the Sisters of Mercy. “And she's telling him, ‘You count for something. And all the peoples of this land are my beloved. I'm in solidarity with all of you. I care for you. Fear not.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850821\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11850821\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Families are seated at least 6 feet apart in a tent for holding outdoor mass at St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland on Dec. 10, 2020. An altar for Our Lady of Guadalupe in the background was set up as a way for parishioners to be able to offer candles and flowers without entering the church. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Her presence blended Tonantzin, whose name means “venerable mother,” with Catholic Mary, offering the promise of two worlds merging together into something new, said Pineda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a voice for compassion, but also justice,” she said. “And to dignify the peoples who had been so downtrodden, and to give them an opportunity to see in her a reflection of their understanding of the sacred.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The message has resonated throughout Latin America and beyond, but especially in Mexico. On Dec 12, at the crack of dawn, people greet the virgin of Guadalupe at churches and altars, and sing her a birthday song, “Las Mañanitas,” because “not only is she born anew to us but we are born anew,” said Pineda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850970\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850970\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Our Lady of Guadalupe celebration at St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland's Fruitvale neighborhood on Dec. 12, 2020.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With the pandemic and the near end of the Trump administration’s anti-immigrant policies, the day's message of resilience and hope resonates deeply in California, said Father Jon Pedigo, who directs advocacy for Catholic Charities of Santa Clara County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Trump tried to make us disappear and go away, and he was not successful,” said Pedigo, who has worked for decades with Latino immigrants. “COVID-19 is taking our people in higher numbers than for any other race. So we have to recognize that we are not going to give in to COVID-19.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='Coronavirus Coverage' tag='coronavirus']Low-income Latinos and other minority communities have been hard hit by the pandemic, in part because they tend to live in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821421/13-people-1-bathroom-how-a-bay-area-mom-is-surviving-covid-19\">overcrowded housing\u003c/a>, and must go to work outside the home. Many lack health care insurance. An estimated 1.5 million undocumented immigrants, who because of their status are excluded from the Affordable Care Act, remain \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11814885/as-pandemic-batters-californias-economy-plan-to-insure-undocumented-seniors-in-doubt\">uninsured\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Latinos comprise nearly 60% of positive coronavirus cases in California and about half of the deaths linked to the disease, according to figures from the California Department of Public Health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead of gathering in large crowds at churches this year, Pedigo suggests people build shrines to Guadalupe in their front yards, akin to the ones many set up inside their homes, where they can sing and pray.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Each house becomes that sacred Temple of Guadalupe,” said Pedigo. “You can experience unity by everyone kind of doing the same thing at their own house. You can experience connectedness not because we're holding hands, but because we are singing the same songs, we are eating the same foods, we are celebrating in similar ways.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850803\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850803\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-536x402.jpg 536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Guillermina Jimenez, 80, stands by a mural at St. Elizabeth's School, near where outdoor mass is being held to comply with pandemic restrictions. Jimenez said she plans to join Our Lady of Guadalupe celebrations in person. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At St. Elizabeth’s in Oakland, Leticia Campos said she’ll watch the festivities online, to be safe. She has already built an altar in honor of Guadalupe at home, with flowers and candles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The celebration has to be safe,” said Campos, 65. “And anyways, our faith, hope and affection for the virgin is in our heart. We can manifest that anywhere.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, a Roman Catholic holiday with Mexican indigenous roots, draws thousands in Oakland in a normal year. Festivities this weekend will be different.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1607974305,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":38,"wordCount":1723},"headData":{"title":"'Each House Becomes a Sacred Temple': Honoring the Virgin of Guadalupe in a Pandemic | KQED","description":"The Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, a Roman Catholic holiday with Mexican indigenous roots, draws thousands in Oakland in a normal year. 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We have to take care of each other so we can care for others.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Father Antonio Galindo","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a recent outdoor mass at St. Elizabeth’s, Father Antonio Galindo spoke in Spanish from the pulpit about the changes. Dozens of parishioners sat on folding chairs 6 feet apart, and clutched their coats in the morning cold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The priest said the parish would abide by the pandemic restrictions currently in effect in Alameda and most Bay Area counties, which prohibit indoor mass and cap outdoor religious services to a maximum of 100 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mass would be livestreamed, he said, and no food vendors would crowd the street as in previous celebrations. The temple, where streams of people would drop bunches of red roses to an image of the virgin, would remain pretty much closed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ll set up a large altar by that tree over there,” Galindo told the masked congregation. “It won’t be as big as the one we’d have inside the temple, but people can still come and offer flowers and candles.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850973\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850973\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1-536x402.jpg 536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46392_001_KQED_OurLadyofGuadalupe_LiveStreamStElizabethOakland-qut-1.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Father Antonio Galindo officiates outdoor mass at St. Elizabeth's on Dec. 3, 2020, as a cellphone records the event for livestreaming. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Many of St. Elizabeth’s parishioners are Latino immigrants and essential workers. The area surrounding the church in the Fruitvale neighborhood is part of a cluster of ZIP codes that have struggled with the highest COVID-19 infection rates in the county for months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Galindo is keenly aware of the havoc the pandemic has wrought in the community. St. Elizabeth’s fundraises and distributes aid to people who’ve lost jobs so they can pay their rent. And Galindo, who said he regularly visits coronavirus patients, has presided over funerals as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So for the Day of Our Lady of Guadalupe, he offered a stern warning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If anyone has COVID-19, stay home,” he said. “We have to take care of each other so we can care for others.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Us Mexicans have all one mother, and her name is Our Lady of Guadalupe.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Guillermina Jimenez","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>After mass, Patricia Silva, 47, hurried home to her three children. She said she’d miss the sense of unity during the feast, but she understood the need to avoid crowds to protect public health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels sad and it hurts a little because one’s used to that experience of coming together before the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe,” said Silva, who has attended mass at St. Elizabeth’s for 14 years. “It’s like they are taking away our tradition of devotion to the virgin.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But given the circumstances, she said she would join the celebrations online from home. She has elderly relatives she wants to protect from the virus, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s for my safety and that of my family,” said Silva, who for previous celebrations also joined a large pilgrimage on foot from East Oakland to the city’s cathedral. This year, the Diocese of Oakland \u003ca href=\"https://oakdiocese.org/peregrinacion\">told\u003c/a> people to drive by in cars instead, which Bishop Michael Barber blessed from afar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850856\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11850856\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/Father-Antonio-Inside-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fr. Antonio Galindo stands inside St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland on Dec. 10, 2020. He said the parish would abide by the pandemic restrictions currently in effect in Alameda County, which prohibit indoor mass and cap outdoor religious services to a maximum of 100 people. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Other parishioners at St. Elizabeth’s said they trusted the church’s preparations to honor Our Lady of Guadalupe – as well as social distancing and mask wearing – to keep them safe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve always come in person,” said Guillermina Jimenez, 80, who has attended St. Elizabeth’s since 1976, when she first immigrated from Mexico to the U.S. with her husband.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jimenez said she would join the church festivities in person because of the day’s deep significance, which she has taught to her 15 children and 36 grandchildren.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Us Mexicans have all one mother, and her name is Our Lady of Guadalupe,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850969\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850969\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46378_009_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aspe Torres helps a woman leaving flowers at an altar for Our Lady of Guadalupe outside of St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland's Fruitvale neighborhood on Dec. 12, 2020, during an Our Lady of Guadalupe day celebration.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The story of Guadalupe starts in 1531, near what is now Mexico City. At the time, the Mexica, or Aztecs, were facing devastation and despair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Spanish conquistadores had killed millions of indigenous people after their arrival in the Americas, by both the sword and the new diseases they brought, including smallpox. The invaders destroyed many of the Aztecs' sacred temples in their bid to Christianize indigenous people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was in that context that an indigenous man known as Juan Diego saw a beautiful woman standing on Mount Tepeyac, a sacred hill for the prominent Aztec goddess Tonantzin, said Ana María Pineda, a religious studies professor at Santa Clara University.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850972\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850972\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46382_015_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Abarca family lights candles in honor of the Virgin of Guadalupe outside of St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland's Fruitvale neighborhood on Dec. 12, 2020, during an Our Lady of Guadalupe day celebration.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>During the encounter, which happened in the early hours of a December morning, everything about the way the lady looked meant something to Juan Diego, said Pineda. She was clothed in a turquoise mantle with stars – a sign of royalty and divinity. Her skin was brown, and she spoke to Juan Diego courteously and softly in the language of the Aztecs: Nahuatl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The conquistadores saw the indigenous people as counting for nothing,” said Pineda, a nun with the Sisters of Mercy. “And she's telling him, ‘You count for something. And all the peoples of this land are my beloved. I'm in solidarity with all of you. I care for you. Fear not.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850821\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11850821\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46366_022_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupe_12102020-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Families are seated at least 6 feet apart in a tent for holding outdoor mass at St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland on Dec. 10, 2020. An altar for Our Lady of Guadalupe in the background was set up as a way for parishioners to be able to offer candles and flowers without entering the church. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Her presence blended Tonantzin, whose name means “venerable mother,” with Catholic Mary, offering the promise of two worlds merging together into something new, said Pineda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a voice for compassion, but also justice,” she said. “And to dignify the peoples who had been so downtrodden, and to give them an opportunity to see in her a reflection of their understanding of the sacred.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The message has resonated throughout Latin America and beyond, but especially in Mexico. On Dec 12, at the crack of dawn, people greet the virgin of Guadalupe at churches and altars, and sing her a birthday song, “Las Mañanitas,” because “not only is she born anew to us but we are born anew,” said Pineda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850970\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850970\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46391_033_KQED_Oakland_OurLadyofGuadalupeDay_12122020-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Our Lady of Guadalupe celebration at St. Elizabeth Church in Oakland's Fruitvale neighborhood on Dec. 12, 2020.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With the pandemic and the near end of the Trump administration’s anti-immigrant policies, the day's message of resilience and hope resonates deeply in California, said Father Jon Pedigo, who directs advocacy for Catholic Charities of Santa Clara County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Trump tried to make us disappear and go away, and he was not successful,” said Pedigo, who has worked for decades with Latino immigrants. “COVID-19 is taking our people in higher numbers than for any other race. So we have to recognize that we are not going to give in to COVID-19.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Coronavirus Coverage ","tag":"coronavirus"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Low-income Latinos and other minority communities have been hard hit by the pandemic, in part because they tend to live in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821421/13-people-1-bathroom-how-a-bay-area-mom-is-surviving-covid-19\">overcrowded housing\u003c/a>, and must go to work outside the home. Many lack health care insurance. An estimated 1.5 million undocumented immigrants, who because of their status are excluded from the Affordable Care Act, remain \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11814885/as-pandemic-batters-californias-economy-plan-to-insure-undocumented-seniors-in-doubt\">uninsured\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Latinos comprise nearly 60% of positive coronavirus cases in California and about half of the deaths linked to the disease, according to figures from the California Department of Public Health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead of gathering in large crowds at churches this year, Pedigo suggests people build shrines to Guadalupe in their front yards, akin to the ones many set up inside their homes, where they can sing and pray.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Each house becomes that sacred Temple of Guadalupe,” said Pedigo. “You can experience unity by everyone kind of doing the same thing at their own house. You can experience connectedness not because we're holding hands, but because we are singing the same songs, we are eating the same foods, we are celebrating in similar ways.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11850803\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11850803\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut-536x402.jpg 536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/12/RS46374_IMG_3005-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Guillermina Jimenez, 80, stands by a mural at St. Elizabeth's School, near where outdoor mass is being held to comply with pandemic restrictions. Jimenez said she plans to join Our Lady of Guadalupe celebrations in person. \u003ccite>(Farida Jhabvala Romero/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At St. Elizabeth’s in Oakland, Leticia Campos said she’ll watch the festivities online, to be safe. She has already built an altar in honor of Guadalupe at home, with flowers and candles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The celebration has to be safe,” said Campos, 65. “And anyways, our faith, hope and affection for the virgin is in our heart. We can manifest that anywhere.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11850782/each-house-becomes-a-sacred-temple-honoring-the-virgin-of-guadalupe-in-a-pandemic","authors":["8659"],"categories":["news_223","news_24114","news_1169","news_8"],"tags":["news_2824","news_20138","news_20202","news_28922","news_27660"],"featImg":"news_11850850","label":"news"},"news_11831757":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11831757","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11831757","score":null,"sort":[1597500042000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-we-learn-from-the-long-lives-of-nuns-think-people-not-productivity","title":"What We Learn From the Long Lives of Nuns (Think: People, Not Productivity)","publishDate":1597500042,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report Magazine | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":26731,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>By nearly every measure, Mary Edith Hurley is a shining example of elderhood. At age 100, she’s in good health. She scoots around her Burlingame assisted living facility with her walker, cracking jokes and greeting friends. She collects memorabilia that celebrates her Irish heritage, and likes to show it off to visitors, brandishing a “Tis a Blessing to be Irish” throw pillow with a giggle and a twinkle in her eye.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, Hurley is part of a group of people held up by gerontologists as kind of heroes of “successful aging”: American Catholic nuns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They not only live much longer than their lay peers, they also are physiologically healthier and psychologically healthier — happier — at the end of life,” says Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College in Moraga, California. For the past decade, Corwin has been studying aging nuns, and she discovered a paradox: They’re held up as models of successful aging, but, in fact, Anna says, “They don’t see aging as successful or unsuccessful — they just see it as just natural.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, what are the nuns doing differently? I spent some time last fall — before coronavirus made such reporting dangerous — in the convent of the Sisters of Mercy in Burlingame. The convent is home to so many aging nuns that it has an on-site assisted living facility, called Marion Oaks, which is where Hurley lives. What I found was that the nuns turn many common assumptions we have about getting older upside down.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Interdependence Is Celebrated\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>On a Sunday early evening, about a dozen nuns get together in an upstairs room full of couches in the Mercy Center convent. After an informal prayer service — some hymn-singing and bible readings — they have a social gathering that strongly resembles a cocktail hour. A table in the corner is stocked with a cheese platter and other snacks, along with wine, beer ... and whiskey. Several sisters are pleased to see single malt scotch among the offerings. “This is a Sunday ritual,” one of them tells me. “Prayer. Social. Dinner.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College\"]'When there were older nuns who needed their care, they were there for them. And so then a little later in their lives, when they are the ones who need care and have to depend on each other — that seems like a natural sort of circular path.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is a cheerful conviviality to the room, enhanced by the fact that many of these women have been living together since they became nuns, decades ago. They are practiced at communal living. Corwin says they learn to rely on each other long before getting old demands it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When there were older nuns who needed their care, they were there for them,” Corwin says. “And so then a little later in their lives, when they are the ones who need care and have to depend on each other — that seems like a natural sort of circular path.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I pay close attention to those sisters that are older than myself,” says Sister Joan Marie O’Donnell, “some of them who've been mentors to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>O’Donnell is 78 years old and has been a sister of Mercy since she was 18. She recently retired, after having worked for decades as a high school teacher and then in health care for elders. O’Donnell says the women around her supply a vision for how to navigate post-retirement life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Very often when I visit a sister, I’ll come home and I'll say, ‘Joan, take note, you know, take note, I mean, really take this in. This is awesome,' \" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Interdependence is a long-standing and celebrated aspect of convent life.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Person Is More Important Than Productivity\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Sister Suzanne Toolan is 92, and has been a musician — an organist and a composer — for going on eight decades. When I meet her, she sits down at the keyboard in her suite of rooms at the convent’s assisted living facility, and plays me a hymn she wrote, “I Am the Bread of Life.” It’s in hymnals all across the country; I grew up singing it in the Episcopal Church. But, partway through the hymn, Toolan stops playing, mid-phrase. “I have a hard time with my hand,” she mutters to herself, massaging the arthritic joints.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11833120\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11833120\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-800x1067.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-scaled.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1122x1496.jpg 1122w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-840x1120.jpg 840w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-687x916.jpg 687w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-414x552.jpg 414w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-354x472.jpg 354w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sister Suzanne Toolan has been a musician for nearly 80 years. \u003ccite>(Tina Antolini)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Because of arthritis, Toolan can’t play the way she used to, and she has a tendency to get down on herself for not being able to contribute as she always has. “Looking back, I wrote things for events — and that doesn’t come my way much anymore,” she says. “I can make it, but I just may be a little lazy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As soon as Toolan admitted this, another one of her fellow sisters, listening in on the conversation, swoops in. Sister Brian Kelber tells Toolan that she’s “the heart” of the Mercy Center’s liturgy and music. Kelber supplies an anecdote about Toolan having given her the job of carrying the music, so that she could feel included, even though she couldn’t sing. “Your talents are wonderful, Suzie,” she says, “but you are the gift.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan, just by being who she was, was contributing in her sister’s eyes. Corwin says this is the ethic so different from American society at large. Even though the nuns do an enormous amount, devoting themselves to charitable work, “there is so much socialization in the convent towards the idea that being a good person is much more important than doing good in the world,” Corwin says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in the convent, there are ways of contributing that aren’t physically demanding. Just praying for someone is valuable, Corwin says. This attitude around the person being the most important thing — beyond what they can productively offer — extends to even more extreme situations. At Mercy Center’s assisted living facility, I saw sisters with even bigger physical or cognitive challenges being integrated into daily life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College\"]'There’s not a resistance to the end of life. And there's a sense that it's to be embraced as natural and normal and not to be looked away from and not to be avoided.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan and her best friend, 87-year-old Marguerite Buchanan, tell me that they have another friend, Pat, who has dementia. Pat had been the president of their community of nuns before she started struggling with memory loss. “She can’t remember 10 minutes ago,” Buchanan tells me. “It’s getting so much worse.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite this, Pat is not walled off on her own, with other people who have memory issues. She’s folded into the social life of the convent. She loves \"Wheel of Fortune,\" so Toolan and Buchanan watch it with her every night. “And she’s good actually!” Toolan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Really good,” Buchanan chimes in. She’s invited to play Rummikub with another nun and still wins occasionally. She plays bingo. Her friends have learned to accept that they need to enjoy her as she is, not as she used to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>It's OK to Give Up Control\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For many people in the U.S., being in control — of where you live, what you eat, who your friends are, what your future holds — is paramount. But the nuns took a vow of obedience decades ago that meant they gave up a lot of that autonomy. Corwin says, “They had this practice having let go of control.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Buchanan says getting older has accentuated that emphasis on giving up control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of letting go around here. You know, physical limitations — we all laugh at each other. It’s like we think we're going to have to be this certain way all our lives,” Buchanan chuckles to herself. “Well, sorry. It's not the way it is.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan jumps in. “I feel like I got so much,” she says, when so many people have so little. “Every night, I pray for people who are homeless. And I have hard time not feeling guilty.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mean, what the heck did we do to deserve this?” Buchanan chimes in, on the gratitude she and so many sisters feel for the comfort and happiness of their older years. “You know, you just kind of fell into it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>A Friendlier Attitude Toward Death\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In the U.S., there’s a general avoidance of death — as if, maybe if we don't talk about it, it won't happen? But in the convent, there’s comfort around it. When someone is dying, the sisters take turns sitting with them, so they won’t be alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag=\"aging\" label=\"related coverage\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also talk a lot about their own deaths. Hurley says she’s already thought about what kind of funeral she’d like to have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have a sister who looks ahead,” she says, “and gives us a certain kind of slip to put on the outfit we want to wear in the coffin.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Corwin says nuns’ attitudes around death are probably helped by a theology that doesn’t consider it an end point. Nuns at Mercy Center spoke to me about a sense of being reunited with lost family members and friends when they die. Few of them spoke of it fearfully.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s not a resistance to the end of life,” Corwin says. “And there's a sense that it's to be embraced as natural and normal and not to be looked away from and not to be avoided. It can be managed as gracefully as any other thing that they encounter in life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I, obviously, am not a nun. Chances are, neither are you. So, what does looking at their different ways of viewing aging mean for us? I see it pointing the way our society could go. Corwin says that it revealed the fact that the difficulty and fear so many of us have around getting older in this country is a cultural one. Other cultures — including many vibrant immigrant cultures here in the U.S. — have a different way of thinking about elders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There could be a cultural shift for all of us,\" Corwin says. And the starting point for that may just be acceptance: Yes, we’re going to get older. And that is natural. And fine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of a series on ageism, and the lived reality of growing older called The Third Act. It was produced with the support of a journalism fellowship from The Gerontological Society of America, Journalists Network on Generations and the Silver Century Foundation, with additional support from California Humanities.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Gerontologists uphold American Catholic nuns as kind of heroes of “successful aging.” So, what are the nuns doing differently?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1597450916,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":37,"wordCount":1939},"headData":{"title":"What We Learn From the Long Lives of Nuns (Think: People, Not Productivity) | KQED","description":"Gerontologists uphold American Catholic nuns as kind of heroes of “successful aging.” So, what are the nuns doing differently?","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"What We Learn From the Long Lives of Nuns (Think: People, Not Productivity)","datePublished":"2020-08-15T14:00:42.000Z","dateModified":"2020-08-15T00:21:56.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11831757 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11831757","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/08/15/what-we-learn-from-the-long-lives-of-nuns-think-people-not-productivity/","disqusTitle":"What We Learn From the Long Lives of Nuns (Think: People, Not Productivity)","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/bc8805f7-8163-4c07-9842-ac100182d146/audio.mp3","nprByline":"Tina Antolini","path":"/news/11831757/what-we-learn-from-the-long-lives-of-nuns-think-people-not-productivity","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>By nearly every measure, Mary Edith Hurley is a shining example of elderhood. At age 100, she’s in good health. She scoots around her Burlingame assisted living facility with her walker, cracking jokes and greeting friends. She collects memorabilia that celebrates her Irish heritage, and likes to show it off to visitors, brandishing a “Tis a Blessing to be Irish” throw pillow with a giggle and a twinkle in her eye.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, Hurley is part of a group of people held up by gerontologists as kind of heroes of “successful aging”: American Catholic nuns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They not only live much longer than their lay peers, they also are physiologically healthier and psychologically healthier — happier — at the end of life,” says Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College in Moraga, California. For the past decade, Corwin has been studying aging nuns, and she discovered a paradox: They’re held up as models of successful aging, but, in fact, Anna says, “They don’t see aging as successful or unsuccessful — they just see it as just natural.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, what are the nuns doing differently? I spent some time last fall — before coronavirus made such reporting dangerous — in the convent of the Sisters of Mercy in Burlingame. The convent is home to so many aging nuns that it has an on-site assisted living facility, called Marion Oaks, which is where Hurley lives. What I found was that the nuns turn many common assumptions we have about getting older upside down.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Interdependence Is Celebrated\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>On a Sunday early evening, about a dozen nuns get together in an upstairs room full of couches in the Mercy Center convent. After an informal prayer service — some hymn-singing and bible readings — they have a social gathering that strongly resembles a cocktail hour. A table in the corner is stocked with a cheese platter and other snacks, along with wine, beer ... and whiskey. Several sisters are pleased to see single malt scotch among the offerings. “This is a Sunday ritual,” one of them tells me. “Prayer. Social. Dinner.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'When there were older nuns who needed their care, they were there for them. 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Corwin says they learn to rely on each other long before getting old demands it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When there were older nuns who needed their care, they were there for them,” Corwin says. “And so then a little later in their lives, when they are the ones who need care and have to depend on each other — that seems like a natural sort of circular path.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I pay close attention to those sisters that are older than myself,” says Sister Joan Marie O’Donnell, “some of them who've been mentors to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>O’Donnell is 78 years old and has been a sister of Mercy since she was 18. She recently retired, after having worked for decades as a high school teacher and then in health care for elders. O’Donnell says the women around her supply a vision for how to navigate post-retirement life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Very often when I visit a sister, I’ll come home and I'll say, ‘Joan, take note, you know, take note, I mean, really take this in. This is awesome,' \" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Interdependence is a long-standing and celebrated aspect of convent life.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Person Is More Important Than Productivity\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Sister Suzanne Toolan is 92, and has been a musician — an organist and a composer — for going on eight decades. When I meet her, she sits down at the keyboard in her suite of rooms at the convent’s assisted living facility, and plays me a hymn she wrote, “I Am the Bread of Life.” It’s in hymnals all across the country; I grew up singing it in the Episcopal Church. But, partway through the hymn, Toolan stops playing, mid-phrase. “I have a hard time with my hand,” she mutters to herself, massaging the arthritic joints.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11833120\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11833120\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-800x1067.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-scaled.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-1122x1496.jpg 1122w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-840x1120.jpg 840w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-687x916.jpg 687w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-414x552.jpg 414w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/08/Suzanne-Playing-the-Piano-354x472.jpg 354w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sister Suzanne Toolan has been a musician for nearly 80 years. \u003ccite>(Tina Antolini)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Because of arthritis, Toolan can’t play the way she used to, and she has a tendency to get down on herself for not being able to contribute as she always has. “Looking back, I wrote things for events — and that doesn’t come my way much anymore,” she says. “I can make it, but I just may be a little lazy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As soon as Toolan admitted this, another one of her fellow sisters, listening in on the conversation, swoops in. Sister Brian Kelber tells Toolan that she’s “the heart” of the Mercy Center’s liturgy and music. Kelber supplies an anecdote about Toolan having given her the job of carrying the music, so that she could feel included, even though she couldn’t sing. “Your talents are wonderful, Suzie,” she says, “but you are the gift.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan, just by being who she was, was contributing in her sister’s eyes. Corwin says this is the ethic so different from American society at large. Even though the nuns do an enormous amount, devoting themselves to charitable work, “there is so much socialization in the convent towards the idea that being a good person is much more important than doing good in the world,” Corwin says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in the convent, there are ways of contributing that aren’t physically demanding. Just praying for someone is valuable, Corwin says. This attitude around the person being the most important thing — beyond what they can productively offer — extends to even more extreme situations. At Mercy Center’s assisted living facility, I saw sisters with even bigger physical or cognitive challenges being integrated into daily life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'There’s not a resistance to the end of life. And there's a sense that it's to be embraced as natural and normal and not to be looked away from and not to be avoided.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Anna Corwin, an anthropologist at St. Mary’s College","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan and her best friend, 87-year-old Marguerite Buchanan, tell me that they have another friend, Pat, who has dementia. Pat had been the president of their community of nuns before she started struggling with memory loss. “She can’t remember 10 minutes ago,” Buchanan tells me. “It’s getting so much worse.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite this, Pat is not walled off on her own, with other people who have memory issues. She’s folded into the social life of the convent. She loves \"Wheel of Fortune,\" so Toolan and Buchanan watch it with her every night. “And she’s good actually!” Toolan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Really good,” Buchanan chimes in. She’s invited to play Rummikub with another nun and still wins occasionally. She plays bingo. Her friends have learned to accept that they need to enjoy her as she is, not as she used to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>It's OK to Give Up Control\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For many people in the U.S., being in control — of where you live, what you eat, who your friends are, what your future holds — is paramount. But the nuns took a vow of obedience decades ago that meant they gave up a lot of that autonomy. Corwin says, “They had this practice having let go of control.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Buchanan says getting older has accentuated that emphasis on giving up control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of letting go around here. You know, physical limitations — we all laugh at each other. It’s like we think we're going to have to be this certain way all our lives,” Buchanan chuckles to herself. “Well, sorry. It's not the way it is.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toolan jumps in. “I feel like I got so much,” she says, when so many people have so little. “Every night, I pray for people who are homeless. And I have hard time not feeling guilty.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mean, what the heck did we do to deserve this?” Buchanan chimes in, on the gratitude she and so many sisters feel for the comfort and happiness of their older years. “You know, you just kind of fell into it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>A Friendlier Attitude Toward Death\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In the U.S., there’s a general avoidance of death — as if, maybe if we don't talk about it, it won't happen? But in the convent, there’s comfort around it. When someone is dying, the sisters take turns sitting with them, so they won’t be alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"aging","label":"related coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also talk a lot about their own deaths. Hurley says she’s already thought about what kind of funeral she’d like to have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have a sister who looks ahead,” she says, “and gives us a certain kind of slip to put on the outfit we want to wear in the coffin.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Corwin says nuns’ attitudes around death are probably helped by a theology that doesn’t consider it an end point. Nuns at Mercy Center spoke to me about a sense of being reunited with lost family members and friends when they die. Few of them spoke of it fearfully.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s not a resistance to the end of life,” Corwin says. “And there's a sense that it's to be embraced as natural and normal and not to be looked away from and not to be avoided. It can be managed as gracefully as any other thing that they encounter in life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I, obviously, am not a nun. Chances are, neither are you. So, what does looking at their different ways of viewing aging mean for us? I see it pointing the way our society could go. Corwin says that it revealed the fact that the difficulty and fear so many of us have around getting older in this country is a cultural one. Other cultures — including many vibrant immigrant cultures here in the U.S. — have a different way of thinking about elders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There could be a cultural shift for all of us,\" Corwin says. And the starting point for that may just be acceptance: Yes, we’re going to get older. And that is natural. And fine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of a series on ageism, and the lived reality of growing older called The Third Act. It was produced with the support of a journalism fellowship from The Gerontological Society of America, Journalists Network on Generations and the Silver Century Foundation, with additional support from California Humanities.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11831757/what-we-learn-from-the-long-lives-of-nuns-think-people-not-productivity","authors":["byline_news_11831757"],"programs":["news_26731"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_2814","news_2824"],"featImg":"news_11831758","label":"news_26731"},"news_11667417":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11667417","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11667417","score":null,"sort":[1526082093000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"how-do-you-get-your-catholic-mom-to-accept-your-job-as-a-dominatrix","title":"How Do You Get Your Catholic Mom to Accept Your Job ... As a Dominatrix?","publishDate":1526082093,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>This post contains sexual imagery.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-california-report-magazine/id1314750545?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Listen to this and more in-depth storytelling by subscribing to The California Report Magazine podcast.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]I[/dropcap]n a high-rise apartment in the heart of Los Angeles, a naked man is on his knees. A clothed woman towers above him. The man does not have a name. He has given her good money not to have a name. The woman has a name, but the man calls her only “Goddess.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But we’re jumping ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is a family story -- even if you might not think it's a family-friendly story -- about a single mom, her mother and her son. It’s a story about navigating conflicting belief systems to build a better life for your family. It’s about finding the right career, even if it doesn’t sit well with everyone around you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before she was a goddess, her name was simply Grace Marie. (We’re not using her last name, or the last names of her family members in this story, to protect their privacy.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For 10 years, she had a very fulfilling career as a special education preschool teacher. She was 20 when she started that job; her son was 2.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Grace got pregnant in high school, her mother was adamant that her daughter keep the baby. Together they raised James, who’s 19 now and very close to his mom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She’s one of the best moms I know,” says James. “She was always there for me when I needed her. And she encouraged me, in an age where a lot of my friends’ mothers spent most of their time discouraging their kids.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Grace was a special education teacher until James was 12 years old. All three of them were living together. Then, Grace made a career change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11667962\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11667962\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-800x1055.jpg\" alt=\"Grace, posing in the doorway of her bathroom, dressed for a patron who she was meeting later that day. Her mother and son did not want to be photographed for this story.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1055\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-800x1055.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-160x211.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-1020x1345.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-910x1200.jpg 910w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-1180x1556.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-960x1266.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-240x316.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-375x494.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-520x685.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Grace, posing in the doorway of her bathroom, dressed for a patron who she was meeting later that day. Her mother and son did not want to be photographed for this story. \u003ccite>(Bradley Bermont/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Let’s keep it very real,” she says. “I had a mountain of medical bills I was concerned with paying. And you know, the school district was great, but they didn’t make me rich.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time, Grace was in an on-again, off-again relationship with a kinky video artist who liked to lick boots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That got me curious, because I was like, ‘Oh there are different ways to fuck,’ ” she says. And that curiosity led her to an unfamiliar corner of a very familiar website.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There were people on Craigslist offering 250 ‘roses’ for foot worship,” she explains. Craigslist recently removed their personals section, but when Grace first changed careers, that’s where she found most of her clients, including a man who lived nearby.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I drove to his house in my little Prius -- my little mom mobile -- and then I got out and clip-clopped inside with my heels and shoved my foot down his throat,” she says, laughing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was given $300 as a “tribute,” she says, making it very clear that this wasn’t a payment of any kind. In that moment, she became a dominatrix and took the title: Goddess Grace Marie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, Grace says, “People come to me for anything you can possibly think of. I’ve done scenes that are very light and innocent, like tickle torture scenes, adult baby scenes -- anything from that, ranging to more hardcore scenes where there’s pain involved. Maybe sometimes there might be blood or feces involved. Some scenes can get to be really hardcore, but you know -- that’s just who you’re talking to because what’s hardcore to one person is BDSM-lite to another.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(BDSM is an overlapping abbreviation that refers to a group of fetishes: bondage and discipline; dominance and submission; sadism and masochism. It is often used as an umbrella term for any kind of fetish or kink.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s no traditional sex involved, but it’s most certainly sex work. And Grace loved it from the start.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The first time you get $300 for an hour’s worth of work, when you’ve been working a $20 per hour job here in L.A., it’s kind of a rush, you know?” says Grace. “Suddenly you’re like, ‘Oh my God, finally they’re paying me what I’m worth. I’m obviously a goddess. This is it, I’ve arrived.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11667974\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11667974\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-800x838.jpg\" alt=\"Grace Marie is a mom, and a daughter, and has to navigate both of those relationships after choosing to become a dominatrix in Los Angeles.\" width=\"800\" height=\"838\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-800x838.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-160x168.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-1020x1068.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-1146x1200.jpg 1146w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-1180x1236.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-960x1006.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-240x251.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-375x393.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-520x545.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Grace Marie is a mom, and a daughter, and has to navigate both of those relationships after choosing to become a dominatrix in Los Angeles. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Grace Marie)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Mom's Initial Reaction\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>But if Grace felt like she had arrived, Pat -- her mother -- felt like she needed deliverance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I felt sad, and I felt mad. And I felt embarrassed. And I felt shame,” Pat says. “That’s how I felt. All those things at once.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And James? He didn’t know. He knew his mom quit her job as a teacher, but he didn’t know what she was doing for a living until two years later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Grace says he found one of her floggers, a type of short whip with a bunch of tails.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He asked me why I had it. And I said the same thing I said to him when he asked me if Santa Claus was real when he was 4: ‘Do you want a story, or do you want the truth?’ \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11667964\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11667964\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-800x980.jpg\" alt=\"Grace’s whip and collection of floggers. They range from supple deer skin to brutally tough bull hide.\" width=\"800\" height=\"980\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-800x980.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-160x196.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-1020x1250.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-979x1200.jpg 979w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-1180x1446.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-960x1177.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-240x294.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-375x460.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-520x637.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Grace’s whip and collection of floggers. They range from supple deerskin to brutally tough bullhide. \u003ccite>(Bradley Bermont/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>James says, the truth was, it didn’t bother him. Grace explained to him that there were certain people who wanted certain sensations and she was a person who could help them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The discovery and ensuing explanation was a non-event for James. He hardly remembers the moment, but said it didn’t affect their relationship at all. She continued to be a great mom throughout everything, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Pat felt differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After two years of tolerating Grace’s new career, Pat kicked her out of the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was non-negotiable,” Grace says. “'You have to go,'” she recalls her mother saying. “'If you’re choosing this, you’re out of here.'”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat simply didn’t get it. She was raised in the Midwest with a devout Catholic family, including an uncle who was a priest. She didn’t understand what would drive her daughter to do this, though she thought about it a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I thought about emotional detachment, I thought about revenge against men in general,” she says. “I thought about control -- always being in control, always being on the giving end of the pain instead of the receiving end.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why BDSM Work Is Healing for Grace -- and Her Clients\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Pat raised Grace as a single mom while working in management for a school district. Her budget was tight, and she put in long hours. Grace spent a lot of time with babysitters. Two of those babysitters molested Grace. The first incident happened when she was only 6 years old. Both molesters were teenage male babysitters. Neither were ever reported to the authorities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Grace recalls an incident when she was 9: “He told me that he was my boyfriend, but that we couldn’t tell anybody because the world is what it is.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The physical things we were doing didn’t bother me. It didn’t go too far,” she says, noting that it was emotional abuse that took a toll on her, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And then that sort of shaped my worldview on what love is,” Grace said. She said she continued to have abusive relationships into adulthood, which she blames on the abuse she suffered as a child.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I didn’t think it was going to be this deep, therapeutic experience, but that’s what it really became.'\u003ccite>Anonymous client of Grace's\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“That mindfuck imprint was left on me. So I need to find a container for that,” she said. “It can live in the BDSM world if it’s done well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not every abuse survivor will go on to become a dominatrix. But for Grace, it makes her feel safe around men again. It helps her feel in control. It makes her feel like someone is there to take care of her. Someone who worships her, like a goddess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When a patron shows up on the first of the month with a stack of cash to show me that they want me to be safe with a roof over my head, and with food in my fridge, and with everything I need for the month -- that helps,” Grace said. “That helps restore faith in human beings.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it’s not just Grace who’s helped by her work. One of her patrons, who asked not to be named and refused to have his voice taped for this story, said Grace helped him build a closer relationship with his sons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I didn’t think it was going to be this deep, therapeutic experience, but that’s what it really became,” the client says. He’s been seeing Grace for the past two years, starting when his wife of 30 years left him unexpectedly.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13827641/the-hustle-an-artist-and-sex-worker-taking-charge-of-her-business\">The Hustle: An Artist and Sex Worker Taking Charge of Her Business\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13827641/the-hustle-an-artist-and-sex-worker-taking-charge-of-her-business\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/03/KQED_Arabelle_Raphael_3_COVER-1038x576.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“[Grace] allowed me to find a vulnerability in myself that I avoided at all costs, in every aspect of my life, which made me really closed off and isolated,” he say. This vulnerability helped him become more emotionally available. He said that he thought it could have improved his marriage if he had done this earlier. That’s why he’s comfortable calling her “goddess.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And what about Pat, Grace’s mom?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It took me awhile to come to the fact that this wasn’t about me or what I was feeling. This was about Grace,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My love for Grace goes above any of the other emotions that I described. I will do whatever it takes to help Grace be the best person she can be,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finding a fulfilling career is hard for anyone. But getting your Catholic mom to accept you as a dominatrix? Grace and Pat found a way to make it work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just this week, Grace moved back into Pat’s house. Together they built a family for James where he can be supported by not just one mom, but two -- even if it took them awhile to get there.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"This single mom and former special ed teacher decided to make an unconventional career change. And that’s meant navigating conflicting belief systems with her own mother.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1526085169,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":49,"wordCount":1874},"headData":{"title":"How Do You Get Your Catholic Mom to Accept Your Job ... As a Dominatrix? | KQED","description":"This single mom and former special ed teacher decided to make an unconventional career change. And that’s meant navigating conflicting belief systems with her own mother.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"How Do You Get Your Catholic Mom to Accept Your Job ... As a Dominatrix?","datePublished":"2018-05-11T23:41:33.000Z","dateModified":"2018-05-12T00:32:49.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11667417 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11667417","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/05/11/how-do-you-get-your-catholic-mom-to-accept-your-job-as-a-dominatrix/","disqusTitle":"How Do You Get Your Catholic Mom to Accept Your Job ... As a Dominatrix?","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2018/05/ProDomMom.mp3","nprByline":"Bradley Bermont","path":"/news/11667417/how-do-you-get-your-catholic-mom-to-accept-your-job-as-a-dominatrix","audioDuration":466000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>This post contains sexual imagery.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-california-report-magazine/id1314750545?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Listen to this and more in-depth storytelling by subscribing to The California Report Magazine podcast.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">I\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>n a high-rise apartment in the heart of Los Angeles, a naked man is on his knees. A clothed woman towers above him. The man does not have a name. He has given her good money not to have a name. The woman has a name, but the man calls her only “Goddess.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But we’re jumping ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is a family story -- even if you might not think it's a family-friendly story -- about a single mom, her mother and her son. It’s a story about navigating conflicting belief systems to build a better life for your family. It’s about finding the right career, even if it doesn’t sit well with everyone around you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before she was a goddess, her name was simply Grace Marie. (We’re not using her last name, or the last names of her family members in this story, to protect their privacy.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For 10 years, she had a very fulfilling career as a special education preschool teacher. She was 20 when she started that job; her son was 2.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Grace got pregnant in high school, her mother was adamant that her daughter keep the baby. Together they raised James, who’s 19 now and very close to his mom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She’s one of the best moms I know,” says James. “She was always there for me when I needed her. And she encouraged me, in an age where a lot of my friends’ mothers spent most of their time discouraging their kids.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Grace was a special education teacher until James was 12 years old. All three of them were living together. Then, Grace made a career change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11667962\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11667962\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-800x1055.jpg\" alt=\"Grace, posing in the doorway of her bathroom, dressed for a patron who she was meeting later that day. Her mother and son did not want to be photographed for this story.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1055\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-800x1055.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-160x211.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-1020x1345.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-910x1200.jpg 910w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-1180x1556.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-960x1266.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-240x316.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-375x494.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GraceDoorway-520x685.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Grace, posing in the doorway of her bathroom, dressed for a patron who she was meeting later that day. Her mother and son did not want to be photographed for this story. \u003ccite>(Bradley Bermont/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Let’s keep it very real,” she says. “I had a mountain of medical bills I was concerned with paying. And you know, the school district was great, but they didn’t make me rich.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time, Grace was in an on-again, off-again relationship with a kinky video artist who liked to lick boots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That got me curious, because I was like, ‘Oh there are different ways to fuck,’ ” she says. And that curiosity led her to an unfamiliar corner of a very familiar website.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There were people on Craigslist offering 250 ‘roses’ for foot worship,” she explains. Craigslist recently removed their personals section, but when Grace first changed careers, that’s where she found most of her clients, including a man who lived nearby.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I drove to his house in my little Prius -- my little mom mobile -- and then I got out and clip-clopped inside with my heels and shoved my foot down his throat,” she says, laughing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was given $300 as a “tribute,” she says, making it very clear that this wasn’t a payment of any kind. In that moment, she became a dominatrix and took the title: Goddess Grace Marie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, Grace says, “People come to me for anything you can possibly think of. I’ve done scenes that are very light and innocent, like tickle torture scenes, adult baby scenes -- anything from that, ranging to more hardcore scenes where there’s pain involved. Maybe sometimes there might be blood or feces involved. Some scenes can get to be really hardcore, but you know -- that’s just who you’re talking to because what’s hardcore to one person is BDSM-lite to another.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(BDSM is an overlapping abbreviation that refers to a group of fetishes: bondage and discipline; dominance and submission; sadism and masochism. It is often used as an umbrella term for any kind of fetish or kink.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s no traditional sex involved, but it’s most certainly sex work. And Grace loved it from the start.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The first time you get $300 for an hour’s worth of work, when you’ve been working a $20 per hour job here in L.A., it’s kind of a rush, you know?” says Grace. “Suddenly you’re like, ‘Oh my God, finally they’re paying me what I’m worth. I’m obviously a goddess. This is it, I’ve arrived.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11667974\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11667974\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-800x838.jpg\" alt=\"Grace Marie is a mom, and a daughter, and has to navigate both of those relationships after choosing to become a dominatrix in Los Angeles.\" width=\"800\" height=\"838\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-800x838.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-160x168.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-1020x1068.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-1146x1200.jpg 1146w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-1180x1236.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-960x1006.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-240x251.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-375x393.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/GracePink-520x545.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Grace Marie is a mom, and a daughter, and has to navigate both of those relationships after choosing to become a dominatrix in Los Angeles. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Grace Marie)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Mom's Initial Reaction\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>But if Grace felt like she had arrived, Pat -- her mother -- felt like she needed deliverance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I felt sad, and I felt mad. And I felt embarrassed. And I felt shame,” Pat says. “That’s how I felt. All those things at once.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And James? He didn’t know. He knew his mom quit her job as a teacher, but he didn’t know what she was doing for a living until two years later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Grace says he found one of her floggers, a type of short whip with a bunch of tails.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He asked me why I had it. And I said the same thing I said to him when he asked me if Santa Claus was real when he was 4: ‘Do you want a story, or do you want the truth?’ \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11667964\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11667964\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-800x980.jpg\" alt=\"Grace’s whip and collection of floggers. They range from supple deer skin to brutally tough bull hide.\" width=\"800\" height=\"980\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-800x980.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-160x196.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-1020x1250.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-979x1200.jpg 979w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-1180x1446.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-960x1177.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-240x294.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-375x460.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/ToolsOfTrade-520x637.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Grace’s whip and collection of floggers. They range from supple deerskin to brutally tough bullhide. \u003ccite>(Bradley Bermont/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>James says, the truth was, it didn’t bother him. Grace explained to him that there were certain people who wanted certain sensations and she was a person who could help them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The discovery and ensuing explanation was a non-event for James. He hardly remembers the moment, but said it didn’t affect their relationship at all. She continued to be a great mom throughout everything, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Pat felt differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After two years of tolerating Grace’s new career, Pat kicked her out of the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was non-negotiable,” Grace says. “'You have to go,'” she recalls her mother saying. “'If you’re choosing this, you’re out of here.'”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat simply didn’t get it. She was raised in the Midwest with a devout Catholic family, including an uncle who was a priest. She didn’t understand what would drive her daughter to do this, though she thought about it a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I thought about emotional detachment, I thought about revenge against men in general,” she says. “I thought about control -- always being in control, always being on the giving end of the pain instead of the receiving end.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why BDSM Work Is Healing for Grace -- and Her Clients\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Pat raised Grace as a single mom while working in management for a school district. Her budget was tight, and she put in long hours. Grace spent a lot of time with babysitters. Two of those babysitters molested Grace. The first incident happened when she was only 6 years old. Both molesters were teenage male babysitters. Neither were ever reported to the authorities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Grace recalls an incident when she was 9: “He told me that he was my boyfriend, but that we couldn’t tell anybody because the world is what it is.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The physical things we were doing didn’t bother me. It didn’t go too far,” she says, noting that it was emotional abuse that took a toll on her, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And then that sort of shaped my worldview on what love is,” Grace said. She said she continued to have abusive relationships into adulthood, which she blames on the abuse she suffered as a child.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I didn’t think it was going to be this deep, therapeutic experience, but that’s what it really became.'\u003ccite>Anonymous client of Grace's\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“That mindfuck imprint was left on me. So I need to find a container for that,” she said. “It can live in the BDSM world if it’s done well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not every abuse survivor will go on to become a dominatrix. But for Grace, it makes her feel safe around men again. It helps her feel in control. It makes her feel like someone is there to take care of her. Someone who worships her, like a goddess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When a patron shows up on the first of the month with a stack of cash to show me that they want me to be safe with a roof over my head, and with food in my fridge, and with everything I need for the month -- that helps,” Grace said. “That helps restore faith in human beings.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it’s not just Grace who’s helped by her work. One of her patrons, who asked not to be named and refused to have his voice taped for this story, said Grace helped him build a closer relationship with his sons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I didn’t think it was going to be this deep, therapeutic experience, but that’s what it really became,” the client says. He’s been seeing Grace for the past two years, starting when his wife of 30 years left him unexpectedly.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13827641/the-hustle-an-artist-and-sex-worker-taking-charge-of-her-business\">The Hustle: An Artist and Sex Worker Taking Charge of Her Business\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13827641/the-hustle-an-artist-and-sex-worker-taking-charge-of-her-business\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/03/KQED_Arabelle_Raphael_3_COVER-1038x576.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“[Grace] allowed me to find a vulnerability in myself that I avoided at all costs, in every aspect of my life, which made me really closed off and isolated,” he say. This vulnerability helped him become more emotionally available. He said that he thought it could have improved his marriage if he had done this earlier. That’s why he’s comfortable calling her “goddess.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And what about Pat, Grace’s mom?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It took me awhile to come to the fact that this wasn’t about me or what I was feeling. This was about Grace,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My love for Grace goes above any of the other emotions that I described. I will do whatever it takes to help Grace be the best person she can be,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finding a fulfilling career is hard for anyone. But getting your Catholic mom to accept you as a dominatrix? Grace and Pat found a way to make it work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just this week, Grace moved back into Pat’s house. Together they built a family for James where he can be supported by not just one mom, but two -- even if it took them awhile to get there.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11667417/how-do-you-get-your-catholic-mom-to-accept-your-job-as-a-dominatrix","authors":["byline_news_11667417"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_223","news_8"],"tags":["news_2824","news_23190","news_23192","news_4","news_20942","news_19743","news_20502","news_23210","news_20896"],"featImg":"news_11667986","label":"news_72"},"news_10382931":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10382931","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10382931","score":null,"sort":[1419035448000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"landmark-church-in-san-jose-to-rebuild-after-devastating-fire","title":"Landmark Church in San Jose to Rebuild After Devastating Fire","publishDate":1419035448,"format":"standard","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>At a time of the year when many churches roll out all the stops to celebrate Christmas, one church in Northside San Jose is grateful to be hosting any services at all. Last month, a\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_26953854/san-jose-fire-crews-monitoring-holy-cross-church\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> fire destroyed\u003c/a> the sanctuary of \u003ca href=\"http://www.holycrosssj.com/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Holy Cross\u003c/a>, a landmark Roman Catholic church that’s served working class immigrants in San Jose for four generations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What do you expect to find outside Sunday mass just a few weeks after a church burns? A mariachi band playing? Children playing soccer in the alleyway? Church ladies serving handmade tortillas and menudo for parishioners?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[soundcloud url=\"https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/182333855\" params=\"color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" iframe=\"true\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire left the other buildings on the property untouched. There are still five masses every Sunday, in English, Spanish and Italian in Scalabrini Hall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sound system may not be ideal. The bells may be pre-recorded. The bingo game display board makes a funny back drop to the makeshift altar. But this service is as precious to the congregation as if it were happening in the church itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Holy Cross is one of a handful of churches in California that still offer masses in Italian. Back when Santa Clara Valley was called the Valley of Heart’s Delight, thousands of Italians – especially Southern Italians - came here to work the farms, ranches and wineries. They settled in Northside San Jose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[soundcloud url=\"https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/182174897\" params=\"color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" iframe=\"true\" /]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Katarina Marcoccia got married at Holy Cross in 1967. I start to ask what she likes about this church when she bursts into tears. Her kids took their first communion here. Her grandmother came here. Go somewhere else for mass? Out of the question. For her and many others. \"Yeah, I’m very happy to see everybody around, to help ‘em out,\" Marcoccia says.\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'When you’re an Italian-American immigrant, you come here with nothing, and you’re working over there picking prunes all day. The only place you find a little hope and solace for your family, and stability, is in the church. ... It was an oasis.'\u003ccite>Anthony Quartuccio, Jr.\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>71 year-old Virginia Sacchi commutes from the Berryessa neighborhood of San Jose. The fire threw her off guard. “I could not believe it. I could not believe it. But God say this had to happen, but this church will be builded again. We just kind of pray and do for the best.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These days, there are fewer Italians in the congregation and many more Filipinos and Mexicans: 600 families in all call, according to Father Firmo Mantovani. Over the mariachi band that starts to play outside now that the last mass is over, Father Mantovani explains it’s not clear whether the church building is a partial or total loss. Two teams of architects are evaluating the situation and are expected to report back within a couple of months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10383266\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 355px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-10383266\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding-400x386.jpg\" alt=\"A family photo from Mae Ferraro of a wedding at Holy Cross Church in San Jose. (Courtesy Mae Ferraro)\" width=\"355\" height=\"343\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding-400x386.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding-32x32.jpg 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 355px) 100vw, 355px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A family photo from Mae Ferraro of a wedding at Holy Cross Church in San Jose. (Courtesy Ferraro Family)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"We haven’t actually started the fundraising,\" Father Mantovani says, \"because we do not know how the reconstruction is going to be. And also we have insurance helping us. But donations are already starting and people are very generous.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Northside San Jose is a working class neighborhood. The donations may not be enough to cover the cost of what insurance doesn’t cover. Money is coming from outside the congregation, however, including people who may not attend church regularly, but remember going there when growing up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is a church that inspires loyalty. Many who spent time there or have relatives who did have posted photos for each other on a Facebook group called \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/pages/Holy-Cross-Church-Memories/1498539520418411?ref=br_tf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Holy Cross Church Memories\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>One Family Remembers\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not too far across town, the Quartuccio family sits sit down at a table laden with garlic bread, baked eggplant, rigatoni with sausage and cheese, and for desert…. cuidate (pronounced quee-DAH-tay), Sicilian fig cookies made special for Christmas. Janet Salciccia made them using a secret family recipe, and no, she's not sharing it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10382985\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10382985 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut-400x300.jpg\" alt=\"The children of Anthony Quartuccio lament the loss of their father's mural, painted in the cupola of the Holy Cross church sanctuary in San Jose, destroyed by fire in November. Anthony Quartuccio, Jr., Christine Sunseri, Maryann Quartuccio, Janet Salciccia, Joe Quartuccio. (Rachael Myrow/KQED)\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut-400x300.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The children of Anthony Quartuccio lament the loss of their father's mural, painted in the cupola of the Holy Cross church sanctuary in San Jose, destroyed by fire in November. Anthony Quartuccio, Jr., Christine Sunseri , Maryann Quartuccio, Janet Salciccia, Joe Quartuccio. (Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Joseph, Janet, Maryann and Anthony Jr. have come together to reflect on a Little Italy long gone, even before the fire. Anthony Jr. , a conductor for \u003ca href=\"http://www.operasj.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Opera San Jose\u003c/a>, explains what Holy Cross meant to his parents and grandparents. \"When you’re an Italian-American immigrant, you come here with nothing, and you’re working over there picking prunes all day. The only place you find a little hope and solace for your family, and stability, is in the church: the prayer services, and all the meetings, the pasta feeds, and everything else. It was a center. It was an oasis.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their father, Anthony Quartuccio, immigrated here from Monreale, Sicily in the 1930s. His first job was picking prunes on bended knees. \"All that beautiful earth,\" exclaims Joe Quartuccio, who works at \u003ca href=\"http://www.originaljoes.com/history.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Original Joe’s\u003c/a>, the Italian steak house downtown. \"My father used to call it the richest earth in the world. You can plant anything in this valley. And a lot of the Italians migrated here because of that reason.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their eyes all light up thinking of when they were children. It's a measure of the joy of that childhood that they all still live in San Jose now. Many American-born Italians moved on and out, but there are still numerous organizations that keep the flame of memory alive in San Jose, including \u003ca href=\"http://sonsofsicily.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sons of Sicily\u003c/a>, the\u003ca href=\"http://siciliansisterhood.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> Sicilian Sisterhood\u003c/a>, and of course, Holy Cross.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10382988\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10382988 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut-400x266.jpg\" alt=\"The Mural of Jesus at Holy Cross Church in San Jose. It was destroyed in the fire that destroyed the cupola in November. (Courtesy Nancy Frausto-Ramirez)\" width=\"400\" height=\"266\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut-400x266.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Mural of Jesus at Holy Cross Church in San Jose. It was destroyed in the fire that destroyed the cupola in November. (Courtesy Nancy Frausto-Ramirez)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Back in the late 1970s, Anthony Quartuccio painted the mural of Jesus hovering over Jerusalem in the cupola. His day job was delivering mail at NASA’s Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, but his passion was painting, and the longer he stuck to it, the bigger the commissions he got.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maryann Quartuccio, who works for the locally well-known Cortese family, was 15 or 16 when she watched her father paint the panels in in the kitchen. \"He spent an entire month on the face of Jesus alone,\" she recalls. \"He was so adamant about making that perfect. And believe it or not, he did. That face of Christ just follows you. And it was devastating to know that was destroyed.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anthony Jr. ran to the church on the day of the fire to see for himself. As he stood in the street crying, people driving by recognized him. “People rolled down the window. ‘Hey, Quartuccio! Did they save your father’s painting?’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That mural is gone forever. What the Quartuccios pray for now is the future of the church-the soul, as they see it, of Northside San Jose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Holy Cross Church says anyone interested in supporting the rebuilding effort can contact the church by mail at Holy Cross Church, Building Fund, 580 Jackson Street, San Jose, CA 95112.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Holy Cross in San Jose plans to rebuild. A fire destroyed the sanctuary last month, but the church is a community center for 600 families.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1525207318,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1278},"headData":{"title":"Landmark Church in San Jose to Rebuild After Devastating Fire | KQED","description":"Holy Cross in San Jose plans to rebuild. A fire destroyed the sanctuary last month, but the church is a community center for 600 families.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Landmark Church in San Jose to Rebuild After Devastating Fire","datePublished":"2014-12-20T00:30:48.000Z","dateModified":"2018-05-01T20:41:58.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"10382931 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10382931","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/12/19/landmark-church-in-san-jose-to-rebuild-after-devastating-fire/","disqusTitle":"Landmark Church in San Jose to Rebuild After Devastating Fire","path":"/news/10382931/landmark-church-in-san-jose-to-rebuild-after-devastating-fire","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>At a time of the year when many churches roll out all the stops to celebrate Christmas, one church in Northside San Jose is grateful to be hosting any services at all. Last month, a\u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_26953854/san-jose-fire-crews-monitoring-holy-cross-church\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> fire destroyed\u003c/a> the sanctuary of \u003ca href=\"http://www.holycrosssj.com/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Holy Cross\u003c/a>, a landmark Roman Catholic church that’s served working class immigrants in San Jose for four generations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What do you expect to find outside Sunday mass just a few weeks after a church burns? A mariachi band playing? Children playing soccer in the alleyway? Church ladies serving handmade tortillas and menudo for parishioners?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cdiv class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__shortcodes__shortcodeWrapper'>\n \u003ciframe width='100%' height='166'\n scrolling='no' frameborder='no'\n src='https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/182333855&visual=true&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false'\n title='https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/182333855'>\n \u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/div>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire left the other buildings on the property untouched. There are still five masses every Sunday, in English, Spanish and Italian in Scalabrini Hall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sound system may not be ideal. The bells may be pre-recorded. The bingo game display board makes a funny back drop to the makeshift altar. But this service is as precious to the congregation as if it were happening in the church itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Holy Cross is one of a handful of churches in California that still offer masses in Italian. Back when Santa Clara Valley was called the Valley of Heart’s Delight, thousands of Italians – especially Southern Italians - came here to work the farms, ranches and wineries. They settled in Northside San Jose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cdiv class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__shortcodes__shortcodeWrapper'>\n \u003ciframe width='100%' height='166'\n scrolling='no' frameborder='no'\n src='https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/182174897&visual=true&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false'\n title='https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/182174897'>\n \u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/div>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Katarina Marcoccia got married at Holy Cross in 1967. I start to ask what she likes about this church when she bursts into tears. Her kids took their first communion here. Her grandmother came here. Go somewhere else for mass? Out of the question. For her and many others. \"Yeah, I’m very happy to see everybody around, to help ‘em out,\" Marcoccia says.\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'When you’re an Italian-American immigrant, you come here with nothing, and you’re working over there picking prunes all day. The only place you find a little hope and solace for your family, and stability, is in the church. ... It was an oasis.'\u003ccite>Anthony Quartuccio, Jr.\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>71 year-old Virginia Sacchi commutes from the Berryessa neighborhood of San Jose. The fire threw her off guard. “I could not believe it. I could not believe it. But God say this had to happen, but this church will be builded again. We just kind of pray and do for the best.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These days, there are fewer Italians in the congregation and many more Filipinos and Mexicans: 600 families in all call, according to Father Firmo Mantovani. Over the mariachi band that starts to play outside now that the last mass is over, Father Mantovani explains it’s not clear whether the church building is a partial or total loss. Two teams of architects are evaluating the situation and are expected to report back within a couple of months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10383266\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 355px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-10383266\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding-400x386.jpg\" alt=\"A family photo from Mae Ferraro of a wedding at Holy Cross Church in San Jose. (Courtesy Mae Ferraro)\" width=\"355\" height=\"343\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding-400x386.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding-32x32.jpg 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/Wedding.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 355px) 100vw, 355px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A family photo from Mae Ferraro of a wedding at Holy Cross Church in San Jose. (Courtesy Ferraro Family)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"We haven’t actually started the fundraising,\" Father Mantovani says, \"because we do not know how the reconstruction is going to be. And also we have insurance helping us. But donations are already starting and people are very generous.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Northside San Jose is a working class neighborhood. The donations may not be enough to cover the cost of what insurance doesn’t cover. Money is coming from outside the congregation, however, including people who may not attend church regularly, but remember going there when growing up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is a church that inspires loyalty. Many who spent time there or have relatives who did have posted photos for each other on a Facebook group called \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/pages/Holy-Cross-Church-Memories/1498539520418411?ref=br_tf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Holy Cross Church Memories\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>One Family Remembers\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not too far across town, the Quartuccio family sits sit down at a table laden with garlic bread, baked eggplant, rigatoni with sausage and cheese, and for desert…. cuidate (pronounced quee-DAH-tay), Sicilian fig cookies made special for Christmas. Janet Salciccia made them using a secret family recipe, and no, she's not sharing it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10382985\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10382985 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut-400x300.jpg\" alt=\"The children of Anthony Quartuccio lament the loss of their father's mural, painted in the cupola of the Holy Cross church sanctuary in San Jose, destroyed by fire in November. Anthony Quartuccio, Jr., Christine Sunseri, Maryann Quartuccio, Janet Salciccia, Joe Quartuccio. (Rachael Myrow/KQED)\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut-400x300.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13767_IMG_0768-qut.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The children of Anthony Quartuccio lament the loss of their father's mural, painted in the cupola of the Holy Cross church sanctuary in San Jose, destroyed by fire in November. Anthony Quartuccio, Jr., Christine Sunseri , Maryann Quartuccio, Janet Salciccia, Joe Quartuccio. (Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Joseph, Janet, Maryann and Anthony Jr. have come together to reflect on a Little Italy long gone, even before the fire. Anthony Jr. , a conductor for \u003ca href=\"http://www.operasj.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Opera San Jose\u003c/a>, explains what Holy Cross meant to his parents and grandparents. \"When you’re an Italian-American immigrant, you come here with nothing, and you’re working over there picking prunes all day. The only place you find a little hope and solace for your family, and stability, is in the church: the prayer services, and all the meetings, the pasta feeds, and everything else. It was a center. It was an oasis.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their father, Anthony Quartuccio, immigrated here from Monreale, Sicily in the 1930s. His first job was picking prunes on bended knees. \"All that beautiful earth,\" exclaims Joe Quartuccio, who works at \u003ca href=\"http://www.originaljoes.com/history.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Original Joe’s\u003c/a>, the Italian steak house downtown. \"My father used to call it the richest earth in the world. You can plant anything in this valley. And a lot of the Italians migrated here because of that reason.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their eyes all light up thinking of when they were children. It's a measure of the joy of that childhood that they all still live in San Jose now. Many American-born Italians moved on and out, but there are still numerous organizations that keep the flame of memory alive in San Jose, including \u003ca href=\"http://sonsofsicily.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sons of Sicily\u003c/a>, the\u003ca href=\"http://siciliansisterhood.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> Sicilian Sisterhood\u003c/a>, and of course, Holy Cross.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10382988\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 400px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-10382988 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut-400x266.jpg\" alt=\"The Mural of Jesus at Holy Cross Church in San Jose. It was destroyed in the fire that destroyed the cupola in November. (Courtesy Nancy Frausto-Ramirez)\" width=\"400\" height=\"266\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut-400x266.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2014/12/RS13769_10481331_1499256617013368_7316085896852057749_n-qut.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Mural of Jesus at Holy Cross Church in San Jose. It was destroyed in the fire that destroyed the cupola in November. (Courtesy Nancy Frausto-Ramirez)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Back in the late 1970s, Anthony Quartuccio painted the mural of Jesus hovering over Jerusalem in the cupola. His day job was delivering mail at NASA’s Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, but his passion was painting, and the longer he stuck to it, the bigger the commissions he got.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maryann Quartuccio, who works for the locally well-known Cortese family, was 15 or 16 when she watched her father paint the panels in in the kitchen. \"He spent an entire month on the face of Jesus alone,\" she recalls. \"He was so adamant about making that perfect. And believe it or not, he did. That face of Christ just follows you. And it was devastating to know that was destroyed.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anthony Jr. ran to the church on the day of the fire to see for himself. As he stood in the street crying, people driving by recognized him. “People rolled down the window. ‘Hey, Quartuccio! Did they save your father’s painting?’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That mural is gone forever. What the Quartuccios pray for now is the future of the church-the soul, as they see it, of Northside San Jose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Holy Cross Church says anyone interested in supporting the rebuilding effort can contact the church by mail at Holy Cross Church, Building Fund, 580 Jackson Street, San Jose, CA 95112.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/10382931/landmark-church-in-san-jose-to-rebuild-after-devastating-fire","authors":["251"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_223","news_1169"],"tags":["news_2824","news_5056","news_22579","news_23121","news_2011","news_18541"],"featImg":"news_10382980","label":"news_6944"},"news_93336":{"type":"posts","id":"news_93336","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"93336","score":null,"sort":[1365170404000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"san-francisco-archdiocese-withdraws-anti-same-sex-marriage-symbol","title":"San Francisco Archdiocese Withdraws 'Divisive' Same-Sex Marriage Symbol","publishDate":1365170404,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Math has never looked so political.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the Supreme Court hearings on the issue last week, many supporters of same-sex marriage posted \"=\" symbols in place of their profile pictures on Facebook and Twitter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The symbols, still in use on many Facebook and Twitter accounts, look like this:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\u003cp>Day 2 at the Supreme Court. Lets keep momentum going. Keep your pics red &spread the word! \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/search/%23UnitedForMarriage\">#UnitedForMarriage\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"http://twitter.com/HRC/status/316894028174069760/photo/1\" href=\"http://t.co/eUlTlVKWX8\">twitter.com/HRC/status/316…\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— HumanRightsCampaign (@HRC) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/HRC/status/316894028174069760\">March 27, 2013\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Very quickly opponents responded with their own twists on the theme, and a few of these found their way onto the \u003ca href=\"http://www.change.org/petitions/the-roman-catholic-archdiocese-of-san-francisco-voluntarily-remove-your-disrespectful-mockeries-of-hrc-s-marriage-equality-logo?utm_campaign=action_box&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook page\u003c/a> of the Catholic Archdiocese of San Francisco.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone has been outspoken in his opposition to same-sex marriage. So the archdiocese social media expert, Edison Tapalla, re-posted a couple of symbols playing on the \"+\" symbol. Those went over without huge criticism. But when he tried \"÷,\" on March 26 he ignited a firestorm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_93617\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/04/05/san-francisco-archdiocese-withdraws-anti-same-sex-marriage-symbol/division-symbol-wagda/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-93617\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/04/division-symbol-wagda-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"An image of the division symbol re-posted by Edison Tapalla (Courtesy of Donald Wagda)\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-93617\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An image of the division symbol re-posted by Edison Tapalla (Courtesy of Donald Wagda)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Same-sex advocates posted about 320 comments in a tone so harsh that Tapalla took down the post a couple of days later. (You can a screen shot of it on\u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152670428690117&l=40b04ef2b7\" target=\"_blank\"> this Facebook page\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It infuriated me,\" said Don Wagda, a Bay Area attorney. \"I thought it was highly disrespectful when they posted the division symbol. It was the most divisive of all.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wagda did everything he could to get the word out about the \"÷,\" including an \u003ca href=\"http://www.change.org/petitions/the-roman-catholic-archdiocese-of-san-francisco-voluntarily-remove-your-disrespectful-mockeries-of-hrc-s-marriage-equality-logo?utm_campaign=action_box&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition\" target=\"_blank\">online petition\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Tapalla said critics like Wagda are misreading the symbol. It included a citation of a biblical passage, Luke \u003ca href=\"http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+12%3A51-53&version=KJV\">12:51\u003c/a>: \"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division...\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also in Tapalla's post was a link to an \u003ca href=\"http://www.catholic-sf.org/news_select.php&newsid=27&id=58007/https:/ns.php?newsid=6&id=60882\" target=\"_blank\">article\u003c/a> by the archdiocese spokesperson, George Wesolek, arguing that Catholics who do not accept the teachings of the church hierarchy (including on same-sex marriage) don't belong in the church.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what was all this meant to communicate?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tapalla said it was a comment on the sharp divisions around the issue of same-sex marriage. \"It was more commenting on how people are separated,\" he said. \"I wish that people could talk. I think we live in a world where mere disagreement is taken as hate. When you have such strong feelings on both sides, it's hard to come together and have a conversation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_93525\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 200px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/04/05/san-francisco-archdiocese-withdraws-anti-same-sex-marriage-symbol/salvatore-cordileone-6/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-93525\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/04/Salvatore-Cordileone-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone (Deborah Svoboda/KQED)\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone (Deborah Svoboda/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It's especially hard to have meaningful dialogue on social media where comments are limited by length, he said. The reaction to his post just reinforced that view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wesolek, too, was taken aback by the reaction to the \"÷\" post. \"We were slammed with some very ugly messages,\" he said. \"It was obviously an organized attack. It's probably the same group that's been attacking us. They are very anti-Catholic and very bigoted.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Michael Cole-Goldschwartz, spokesperson for the \u003ca href=\"http://www.hrc.org/\">Human Rights Campaign, \u003c/a>said the group had not responded to the parodies of the \"=\" campaign that its marketing director, Anastasia Khoo, dreamed up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He noted the division symbol on the archdiocese Facebook page. \"Frankly, I thought it characterized the opposition,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're happy that our message got out and it's unfortunate that they're using this for their own anti-gay message. But it is what it is.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1365455673,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":571},"headData":{"title":"San Francisco Archdiocese Withdraws Anti-Same-Sex Marriage Symbol","description":"Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone has been outspoken in his opposition to same-sex marriage. So the archdiocese social media expert, Edison Tapalla, re-posted a couple of symbols playing on the "+" symbol. Those went over without huge criticism. But when he tried "÷," on March 26 he ignited a firestorm.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"San Francisco Archdiocese Withdraws 'Divisive' Same-Sex Marriage Symbol","datePublished":"2013-04-05T14:00:04.000Z","dateModified":"2013-04-08T21:14:33.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"93336 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=93336","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/04/05/san-francisco-archdiocese-withdraws-anti-same-sex-marriage-symbol/","disqusTitle":"San Francisco Archdiocese Withdraws 'Divisive' Same-Sex Marriage Symbol","path":"/news/93336/san-francisco-archdiocese-withdraws-anti-same-sex-marriage-symbol","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Math has never looked so political.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the Supreme Court hearings on the issue last week, many supporters of same-sex marriage posted \"=\" symbols in place of their profile pictures on Facebook and Twitter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The symbols, still in use on many Facebook and Twitter accounts, look like this:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\u003cp>Day 2 at the Supreme Court. Lets keep momentum going. Keep your pics red &spread the word! \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/search/%23UnitedForMarriage\">#UnitedForMarriage\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"http://twitter.com/HRC/status/316894028174069760/photo/1\" href=\"http://t.co/eUlTlVKWX8\">twitter.com/HRC/status/316…\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— HumanRightsCampaign (@HRC) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/HRC/status/316894028174069760\">March 27, 2013\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Very quickly opponents responded with their own twists on the theme, and a few of these found their way onto the \u003ca href=\"http://www.change.org/petitions/the-roman-catholic-archdiocese-of-san-francisco-voluntarily-remove-your-disrespectful-mockeries-of-hrc-s-marriage-equality-logo?utm_campaign=action_box&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook page\u003c/a> of the Catholic Archdiocese of San Francisco.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone has been outspoken in his opposition to same-sex marriage. So the archdiocese social media expert, Edison Tapalla, re-posted a couple of symbols playing on the \"+\" symbol. Those went over without huge criticism. But when he tried \"÷,\" on March 26 he ignited a firestorm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_93617\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/04/05/san-francisco-archdiocese-withdraws-anti-same-sex-marriage-symbol/division-symbol-wagda/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-93617\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/04/division-symbol-wagda-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"An image of the division symbol re-posted by Edison Tapalla (Courtesy of Donald Wagda)\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-93617\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An image of the division symbol re-posted by Edison Tapalla (Courtesy of Donald Wagda)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Same-sex advocates posted about 320 comments in a tone so harsh that Tapalla took down the post a couple of days later. (You can a screen shot of it on\u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152670428690117&l=40b04ef2b7\" target=\"_blank\"> this Facebook page\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It infuriated me,\" said Don Wagda, a Bay Area attorney. \"I thought it was highly disrespectful when they posted the division symbol. It was the most divisive of all.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wagda did everything he could to get the word out about the \"÷,\" including an \u003ca href=\"http://www.change.org/petitions/the-roman-catholic-archdiocese-of-san-francisco-voluntarily-remove-your-disrespectful-mockeries-of-hrc-s-marriage-equality-logo?utm_campaign=action_box&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition\" target=\"_blank\">online petition\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Tapalla said critics like Wagda are misreading the symbol. It included a citation of a biblical passage, Luke \u003ca href=\"http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+12%3A51-53&version=KJV\">12:51\u003c/a>: \"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division...\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also in Tapalla's post was a link to an \u003ca href=\"http://www.catholic-sf.org/news_select.php&newsid=27&id=58007/https:/ns.php?newsid=6&id=60882\" target=\"_blank\">article\u003c/a> by the archdiocese spokesperson, George Wesolek, arguing that Catholics who do not accept the teachings of the church hierarchy (including on same-sex marriage) don't belong in the church.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what was all this meant to communicate?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tapalla said it was a comment on the sharp divisions around the issue of same-sex marriage. \"It was more commenting on how people are separated,\" he said. \"I wish that people could talk. I think we live in a world where mere disagreement is taken as hate. When you have such strong feelings on both sides, it's hard to come together and have a conversation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_93525\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 200px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/04/05/san-francisco-archdiocese-withdraws-anti-same-sex-marriage-symbol/salvatore-cordileone-6/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-93525\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/04/Salvatore-Cordileone-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone (Deborah Svoboda/KQED)\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone (Deborah Svoboda/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It's especially hard to have meaningful dialogue on social media where comments are limited by length, he said. The reaction to his post just reinforced that view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wesolek, too, was taken aback by the reaction to the \"÷\" post. \"We were slammed with some very ugly messages,\" he said. \"It was obviously an organized attack. It's probably the same group that's been attacking us. They are very anti-Catholic and very bigoted.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Michael Cole-Goldschwartz, spokesperson for the \u003ca href=\"http://www.hrc.org/\">Human Rights Campaign, \u003c/a>said the group had not responded to the parodies of the \"=\" campaign that its marketing director, Anastasia Khoo, dreamed up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He noted the division symbol on the archdiocese Facebook page. \"Frankly, I thought it characterized the opposition,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're happy that our message got out and it's unfortunate that they're using this for their own anti-gay message. But it is what it is.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/93336/san-francisco-archdiocese-withdraws-anti-same-sex-marriage-symbol","authors":["1367"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_13"],"tags":["news_2824","news_2626","news_4180","news_82","news_856","news_322"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_77512":{"type":"posts","id":"news_77512","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"77512","score":null,"sort":[1349459193000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"episcopal-bishop-complains-of-snub-at-catholic-colleagues-installation","title":"Episcopal Bishop Complains of Snub at Catholic Colleague's Installation","publishDate":1349459193,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>The Episcopal Bishop of California \u003ca href=\"http://bishopmarc.typepad.com/blog/2012/10/a-post-to-clarify-my-experience-at-the-installation-of-archbishop-cordileone-at-st-marys-cathedral-san-francisco-i-was-dr.html\">said today that he was snubbed\u003c/a> at the installation ceremony for his counterpart, the new Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_77537\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 177px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Marc-Handley-Andrus.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-77537\" title=\"Marc Handley Andrus\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Marc-Handley-Andrus.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"177\" height=\"215\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Episcoal Bishop Marc Handley Andrus (Diocal/Wikimedia)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The new Catholic Archbishop, Salvatore Cordileone, helped lead the campaign for Prop. 8, the California initiative banning same-sex marriage. The Episcopal Bishop, Marc Andrus, has supported same-sex marriage and written \u003ca href=\"http://bishopmarc.typepad.com/blog/2012/10/letter-to-the-diocese-of-california-concerning-the-installation-of-salvatore-cordileone-as-archbisho.html\">an open letter\u003c/a> in which he looked forward to working with Cordileone but also invited Catholics dissatisfied with their new leader to join the Episcopal church.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Invited to Cordileone's installation at St. Mary's Cathedral, Andrus was taken to a basement room with other guests including religious leaders, but he left after he was not seated by 2 p.m. when the ceremony began.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Archdiocese spokesman George Wesolek told the Associated Press that Andrus arrived late and missed the procession of interfaith clergy who were to be seated up front. Church staff were looking for an opportunity to bring the bishop in without disrupting the service, according to Wesolek. When they went to retrieve him, he had already left.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We had no intention of excluding him at all,\" Wesolek said. \"If he felt like because of the wait that was insulting to him, we certainly will apologize.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_77538\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 241px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Salvatore-Cordileone.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-77538\" title=\"Salvatore Cordileone\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Salvatore-Cordileone-241x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"241\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Catholic Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone (QvisDevs)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Andrus disputed that account, writing that his invitation told him to arrive at 1:45 p.m., an assistant dropped him off at 1:30, and he was in the basement with other guests by 1:40. \"An archdiocesan employee attempted to escort me upstairs with the Greek Orthodox group, but was stopped from doing so by the employee to whom I had first identified myself,\" he wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Catholic and Episcopal churches have been moving in opposite directions on the issue of sexual orientation. Opposition to same-sex marriage has emerged as a principal theme of Pope Benedict XVI's papacy. In March, he urged visiting U.S. bishops to beef up their teaching about the evils of premarital sex and cohabitation, and denounced what he called the \"powerful\" gay marriage lobby in America. And on July 27 he selected Cordileone, who is outspoken on the issue, to replace retiring Archbishop George Niederauer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just a few weeks earlier, on July 9, the Episcopal House of Bishops \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/10/05/episcopal-bishop-complains-of-snub-at-catholic-colleagues-installation/\">approved ceremonies\u003c/a> for same-sex couples. Controversy over the role of gays has divided the larger Anglican Communian, to which the Episcoal Church belongs. The Catholic Pope Benedict XVI in 2009 \u003ca href=\"http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-06-07-Catholic-anglican-07_ST_N.htm\">invited Anglicans to become Catholic\u003c/a> while retaining some Anglican liturgical heritage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his homily on Thursday, Cordileone mentioned marriage only obliquely. Thursday was the feast day of San Francisco's patron saint, St. Francis of Assisi, and the archbishop said that St. Francis, too, lived during a time of spiritual unrest, \"even to the point of denigrating marriage on the basis that it was purely a material reality.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1383092518,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":11,"wordCount":487},"headData":{"title":"Episcopal Bishop Complains of Snub at Catholic Colleague's Installation | KQED","description":"The Episcopal Bishop of California said today that he was snubbed at the installation ceremony for his counterpart, the new Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco. The new Catholic Archbishop, Salvatore Cordileone, helped lead the campaign for Prop. 8, the California initiative banning same-sex marriage. 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The Episcopal Bishop, Marc Andrus, has supported same-sex marriage and written \u003ca href=\"http://bishopmarc.typepad.com/blog/2012/10/letter-to-the-diocese-of-california-concerning-the-installation-of-salvatore-cordileone-as-archbisho.html\">an open letter\u003c/a> in which he looked forward to working with Cordileone but also invited Catholics dissatisfied with their new leader to join the Episcopal church.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Invited to Cordileone's installation at St. Mary's Cathedral, Andrus was taken to a basement room with other guests including religious leaders, but he left after he was not seated by 2 p.m. when the ceremony began.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Archdiocese spokesman George Wesolek told the Associated Press that Andrus arrived late and missed the procession of interfaith clergy who were to be seated up front. Church staff were looking for an opportunity to bring the bishop in without disrupting the service, according to Wesolek. When they went to retrieve him, he had already left.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We had no intention of excluding him at all,\" Wesolek said. \"If he felt like because of the wait that was insulting to him, we certainly will apologize.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_77538\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 241px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Salvatore-Cordileone.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-77538\" title=\"Salvatore Cordileone\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/Salvatore-Cordileone-241x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"241\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Catholic Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone (QvisDevs)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Andrus disputed that account, writing that his invitation told him to arrive at 1:45 p.m., an assistant dropped him off at 1:30, and he was in the basement with other guests by 1:40. \"An archdiocesan employee attempted to escort me upstairs with the Greek Orthodox group, but was stopped from doing so by the employee to whom I had first identified myself,\" he wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Catholic and Episcopal churches have been moving in opposite directions on the issue of sexual orientation. Opposition to same-sex marriage has emerged as a principal theme of Pope Benedict XVI's papacy. In March, he urged visiting U.S. bishops to beef up their teaching about the evils of premarital sex and cohabitation, and denounced what he called the \"powerful\" gay marriage lobby in America. And on July 27 he selected Cordileone, who is outspoken on the issue, to replace retiring Archbishop George Niederauer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just a few weeks earlier, on July 9, the Episcopal House of Bishops \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/10/05/episcopal-bishop-complains-of-snub-at-catholic-colleagues-installation/\">approved ceremonies\u003c/a> for same-sex couples. Controversy over the role of gays has divided the larger Anglican Communian, to which the Episcoal Church belongs. The Catholic Pope Benedict XVI in 2009 \u003ca href=\"http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-06-07-Catholic-anglican-07_ST_N.htm\">invited Anglicans to become Catholic\u003c/a> while retaining some Anglican liturgical heritage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his homily on Thursday, Cordileone mentioned marriage only obliquely. Thursday was the feast day of San Francisco's patron saint, St. Francis of Assisi, and the archbishop said that St. Francis, too, lived during a time of spiritual unrest, \"even to the point of denigrating marriage on the basis that it was purely a material reality.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/77512/episcopal-bishop-complains-of-snub-at-catholic-colleagues-installation","authors":["1367"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_2824","news_3271","news_2724","news_2626","news_3270","news_856","news_2826","news_322","news_38"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_71769":{"type":"posts","id":"news_71769","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"71769","score":null,"sort":[1343433663000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"sfs-new-archbishop-sees-the-evil-one-in-gay-marriage","title":"SF's New Archbishop Could Pressure Gay-Friendly Churches","publishDate":1343433663,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Is the Pope picking a fight? I had to wonder that when I heard on Friday about the appointment of Salvatore Cordileone -- one of the nation's most outspoken foes of same-sex marriage -- as archbishop of San Francisco, the gayest city in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_71795\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 138px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/07/Salvatore-Cordileone.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-71795\" title=\"Salvatore Cordileone\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/07/Salvatore-Cordileone.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"138\" height=\"170\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Salvatore Cordileone (QvisDevs)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Cordileone has called same-sex marriage a plot by \"the evil one.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And as much as anyone, he led the drive for Prop. 8, the ballot initiative that banned same-sex marriage, according to a an \u003ca href=\"http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/the-father-of-proposition-8/Content?oid=1370716&storyPage=2\">expose in the East Bay Express\u003c/a>. Cordileone thought up the proposition, raised money, and put a compassionate face on the campaign, the Express reported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he takes his new position as archbishop of San Francisco, Cordileone will find himself surrounded by people who vehemently disagree with his position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In conversation with KQED's Stephanie Marti, Cordileone made it clear he won't back down from his fight :\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>It’s going to be a big challenge of course but this is what the Lord has called me to do. I hope I can respond honestly and generously and effectively. He calls every generation to serve him in some particular way in terms of what’s going on in the world. That’s what it is for me.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->But what exactly does this mean for an archdiocese that stretches from Hawaii to Utah?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To get a perspective, I called Bernard Schlager, executive director of the Center for Gay and Lesbian Studies in Religion and Ministry at the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think we know a good bit about what he will do,\" said Schlager, himself a Roman Catholic. \"He sees same-sex marriage as a profound moral threat.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only ministry to gays and lesbians that Cordileone supports is a kind of 12-step program -- treating homosexuality as if it were an addiction, Schlager says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As bishop of Oakland, Cordileone pressured the directors of the Catholic Association of Lesbian and Gay Ministries -- a group formed to welcome gays and lesbians into the Catholic church -- to swear an oath accepting church doctrine on homosexuality. Among Cordileone's concerns, according to the \u003ca href=\"http://ncronline.org/news/spirituality/gay-ministry-group-refuses-sign-oath\">National Catholic Reporter\u003c/a>, were the very use of the terms \"gay\" and \"lesbian,\" which were \"not in the church's vocabulary.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Archbishop of San Francisco, Cordileone could put similar pressure on individual parishes that have welcomed gays and lesbians, Schlager said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the comments section of the \u003ca href=\"http://cal-catholic.com/wordpress/2012/07/27/news-flash-bombshell-appointment/\">California Catholic Daily\u003c/a>, some readers called on Cordileone to \"de-consecrate\" the Most Holy Redeemer Church in San Francisco's Castro neighborhood, which welcomes everyone \"regardless of their background, gender, race, social status, gender identity or sexual orientation,\" according to its website.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As archbishop, Cordileone could force priests to sermonize against gay marriage, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schlager doesn't think he'll do that, because it would be too controversial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Thomas Sheehan, a professor of religious studies at Stanford University, isn't so sure the archbishop will refrain from meddling in priestly business on LGBT or other issues. \"He could well demand that priests reinforce the church's teaching on contraception,\" Sheehan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But ultimately Sheehan thinks the effects on individual Catholics will be modest. \"I doubt it will affect how people practice,\" he said. \"People look less and less to the hierarchy.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1343944055,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":19,"wordCount":550},"headData":{"title":"SF's New Archbishop Could Pressure Gay-Friendly Churches | KQED","description":"Is the Pope picking a fight? 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I had to wonder that when I heard on Friday about the appointment of Salvatore Cordileone -- one of the nation's most outspoken foes of same-sex marriage -- as archbishop of San Francisco, the gayest city in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_71795\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 138px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/07/Salvatore-Cordileone.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-71795\" title=\"Salvatore Cordileone\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/07/Salvatore-Cordileone.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"138\" height=\"170\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Salvatore Cordileone (QvisDevs)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Cordileone has called same-sex marriage a plot by \"the evil one.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And as much as anyone, he led the drive for Prop. 8, the ballot initiative that banned same-sex marriage, according to a an \u003ca href=\"http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/the-father-of-proposition-8/Content?oid=1370716&storyPage=2\">expose in the East Bay Express\u003c/a>. Cordileone thought up the proposition, raised money, and put a compassionate face on the campaign, the Express reported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he takes his new position as archbishop of San Francisco, Cordileone will find himself surrounded by people who vehemently disagree with his position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In conversation with KQED's Stephanie Marti, Cordileone made it clear he won't back down from his fight :\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>It’s going to be a big challenge of course but this is what the Lord has called me to do. I hope I can respond honestly and generously and effectively. He calls every generation to serve him in some particular way in terms of what’s going on in the world. That’s what it is for me.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c!--more-->But what exactly does this mean for an archdiocese that stretches from Hawaii to Utah?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To get a perspective, I called Bernard Schlager, executive director of the Center for Gay and Lesbian Studies in Religion and Ministry at the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think we know a good bit about what he will do,\" said Schlager, himself a Roman Catholic. \"He sees same-sex marriage as a profound moral threat.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only ministry to gays and lesbians that Cordileone supports is a kind of 12-step program -- treating homosexuality as if it were an addiction, Schlager says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As bishop of Oakland, Cordileone pressured the directors of the Catholic Association of Lesbian and Gay Ministries -- a group formed to welcome gays and lesbians into the Catholic church -- to swear an oath accepting church doctrine on homosexuality. Among Cordileone's concerns, according to the \u003ca href=\"http://ncronline.org/news/spirituality/gay-ministry-group-refuses-sign-oath\">National Catholic Reporter\u003c/a>, were the very use of the terms \"gay\" and \"lesbian,\" which were \"not in the church's vocabulary.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Archbishop of San Francisco, Cordileone could put similar pressure on individual parishes that have welcomed gays and lesbians, Schlager said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the comments section of the \u003ca href=\"http://cal-catholic.com/wordpress/2012/07/27/news-flash-bombshell-appointment/\">California Catholic Daily\u003c/a>, some readers called on Cordileone to \"de-consecrate\" the Most Holy Redeemer Church in San Francisco's Castro neighborhood, which welcomes everyone \"regardless of their background, gender, race, social status, gender identity or sexual orientation,\" according to its website.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As archbishop, Cordileone could force priests to sermonize against gay marriage, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schlager doesn't think he'll do that, because it would be too controversial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Thomas Sheehan, a professor of religious studies at Stanford University, isn't so sure the archbishop will refrain from meddling in priestly business on LGBT or other issues. \"He could well demand that priests reinforce the church's teaching on contraception,\" Sheehan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But ultimately Sheehan thinks the effects on individual Catholics will be modest. \"I doubt it will affect how people practice,\" he said. \"People look less and less to the hierarchy.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/71769/sfs-new-archbishop-sees-the-evil-one-in-gay-marriage","authors":["1367"],"programs":["news_6944"],"tags":["news_2828","news_2824","news_2650","news_82","news_856","news_2826","news_2827"],"label":"news_6944"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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