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What is that boat and why is it there?” asked Agnes Veith of Sunnyvale. She’s a volunteer at \u003ca href=\"https://www.environmentalvolunteers.org/ecocenter/\">Environmental Volunteers\u003c/a>, a nonprofit housed in a building that really does look like a boat, and wanted to know more about its history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re a fan of art deco buildings in the Bay Area, you probably know of San Francisco’s \u003ca href=\"https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/nat2007001468.asp\">Coit Tower\u003c/a>. Or Oakland’s beloved \u003ca href=\"https://www.paramountoakland.org/history_news\">Paramount Theatre\u003c/a>. Or the iconic \u003ca href=\"https://www.destinationhotels.com/hotel-de-anza/hotel-de-anza-blog/spend-the-night-at-legendary-hotel-de-anza\">Hotel de Anza\u003c/a> in downtown San José. There aren’t a lot of these nostalgic throwbacks to the 1930s still standing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But art deco doesn’t really describe the building Veith is thinking of. It’s in a subcategory of art deco called streamline moderne, or nautical moderne. Which is to say: horizontal orientation, rounded edges and porthole-shaped windows. There’s something that looks like a navigation bridge popping out onto a third story. A rainbow flag flies high and proud from a hoist at the top of the building. The paint job is a white that Benjamin Moore might describe as “sand dollar” or “dune,” with French blue accents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whimsy or cheese? I’m going with whimsy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The building was designed for the \u003ca href=\"https://seascout.org\">Sea Scouts\u003c/a>, a maritime program of the Boy Scouts of America, by architect \u003ca href=\"https://www.paloaltohistory.org/birge-clark.php\">Birge Clark.\u003c/a> He’s the one behind the Palo Alto Post Office, the President Hotel and several Stanford buildings. Clark reportedly took his inspiration for the Sea Scout building from the pilot house of an old paddle wheel steamer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So that’s the story of what hits your eyeballs as you’re walking in the Baylands. The history of the building is just as compelling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11940610\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2139px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11940610\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts.jpg\" alt=\"A sepia toned photograph shows rows of young men in maritime uniforms in front of an Art Deco building that looks like a boat. What looks like a military band plays in foreground.\" width=\"2139\" height=\"1714\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts.jpg 2139w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-800x641.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-1020x817.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-160x128.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-1536x1231.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-2048x1641.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-1920x1539.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2139px) 100vw, 2139px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Palo Alto Sea Scout Base was commissioned in May of 1941. That’s the Stanford Band in the foreground. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Hyde Forbes)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Palo Alto philanthropist Lucie Stern commissioned it as a home base for the \u003ca href=\"https://seascout.org\">Sea Scouts\u003c/a>. The building opened in 1941 to great fanfare, especially given the ongoing hostilities of World War II.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was a pivotal moment for the local chapter, which taught teenagers from as far north as Redwood City and as far south as San José. Their counterparts in the Girl Scouts were called the Mariners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kevin Murray was a Sea Scout. He joined in 1974, at the age of 14, and rose up through the ranks from apprentice to vice commodore for the western region. Over the years, he also became an amateur historian of the Sea Scouts on the Peninsula. He’s talked to old-timers before they died about \u003ca href=\"https://www.paloaltohistory.org/the-palo-alto-yacht-harbor.php\">the start of the harbor in 1928\u003c/a>, and the decades of fun and education that followed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That harbor was alive and well. It was teeming with families, with teenagers, a bunch of sailboats. Aww, man, it was a whole other world,” Murray said. “Imagine right in front of that building, an 85-foot PT boat.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A PT boat, by the way, was a motorized torpedo boat used by the Navy in World War II: small, fast and cheap to build. They were cheap to give away, too, to programs like the Sea Scouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11940611\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2048px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11940611\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6.jpg\" alt=\"A class photo taken outdoors of young, teenage boys looking jaunty in sailor outfits.\" width=\"2048\" height=\"1367\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-1920x1282.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2048px) 100vw, 2048px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Palo Alto Sea Scouts after a coastal summer cruise from PA to San Diego and return, circa 1969. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Skipper George Moore)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Here I was, a 14-year-old kid, and they put me on a WWII, 64-foot tugboat. I started as a deckhand and then I graduated to become an engineer, working on an engine the size of a train. So the first thing I noticed was we were being treated as men, not little boys anymore,” Murray said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There were adventurous trips to San Francisco and even Alaska. There were regattas and dances and lifelong friendships formed. Murray credits his time in the Sea Scouts for turning him into an educator. He was a political science professor for 30 years before he retired. Most of his brothers went into education, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But times change and so do social attitudes toward the environment. The dredging that made Palo Alto’s harbor operational stopped after a contentious citywide vote in 1986, to allow for the area to return to its original state as wetlands. Then in 1994, the Palo Alto and San Mateo County Sea Scout councils merged, and in 2002, they gave up the lease on the building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the years, while sitting empty, the foundation sank three feet into the mud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you come inside and you look at the floorboards, you can actually see the original floorboards and see some of the blackening as a result of some of that constant tide flow and flooding,” said Toby Goldberg, director of programs and partnerships at Environmental Volunteers. The local nonprofit where Goldberg works, and where Agnes Veith (our Bay Curious question-asker) volunteers, hosts field trips for some 50 schools in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11940613\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11940613 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/AF5A903D-EFC1-4C58-9728-9352E8236814_1_201_a.jpeg\" alt=\"A gray goose, with a long black neck, white and black head, and wings outstretched, lifts off from a rippling, brown lake, three splashes from its feet behind it.\" width=\"640\" height=\"330\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/AF5A903D-EFC1-4C58-9728-9352E8236814_1_201_a.jpeg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/AF5A903D-EFC1-4C58-9728-9352E8236814_1_201_a-160x83.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Canada goose takes flight in the Palo Alto Baylands. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Agnes Veith)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The organization got hold of the building in the 2000s and lined up grant money to renovate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The refurbished Sea Scout building sits 4 feet higher than its forebear, to prevent future flooding due to tidal influx as well as sea level rise. But 4 feet may not be enough. “During particular times of the year, especially king tides, if there’s a storm, the water actually does come up sometimes over the deck. So we have had instances where there was a question of, ‘Did we need our kayaks for getting into work today?'” Goldberg said.[emailsignup newslettername=\"baycurious\" align=\"right\"]You might think that a building that looks like a boat circa World War II would be an odd choice for an outfit that teaches about wetlands. But somehow, it just feels right when you’re out there. Especially standing on the deck in the back and looking out over a calm expanse of mud and pickleweed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11940614\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11940614 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-scaled.jpeg\" alt='A big sign by a building that looks like a boat says \"Environmental Volunteers EcoCenter.\"' width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Environmental Volunteers EcoCenter in the Palo Alto Baylands. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hazel Watson, a former science educator now with Environmental Volunteers, can wax more poetic: “A whole vista of cordgrasses and the pickleweeds, with the channels that still remain here. Today, we’ve got lots of Northern shoveler ducks and Ridgeway’s rails. Sunset is beautiful here. It’s certainly the best part of the day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Goldberg added that the wetlands act like a nursery for a lot of organisms. “So we see things like bat rays, and we’ll see harbor seals occasionally coming through. Birds galore, [depending on] the season. So every time you come out here, you’re going to be seeing different things, different birds, different insects. You can see that all from the deck of this building that looks like a boat,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Don’t wait for the Sea Scout building to sink into the mud again. Make tracks and come see it, across from the duck pond, and bring your camera and a pair of binoculars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"You may have noticed this unique building out at the Palo Alto Baylands. It's got an interesting history.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700531690,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":true,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":1236},"headData":{"title":"The Building That Looks Like a Boat Off the Coast of Palo Alto | KQED","description":"You may have noticed this unique building out at the Palo Alto Baylands. 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What is that boat and why is it there?” asked Agnes Veith of Sunnyvale. She’s a volunteer at \u003ca href=\"https://www.environmentalvolunteers.org/ecocenter/\">Environmental Volunteers\u003c/a>, a nonprofit housed in a building that really does look like a boat, and wanted to know more about its history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re a fan of art deco buildings in the Bay Area, you probably know of San Francisco’s \u003ca href=\"https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/nat2007001468.asp\">Coit Tower\u003c/a>. Or Oakland’s beloved \u003ca href=\"https://www.paramountoakland.org/history_news\">Paramount Theatre\u003c/a>. Or the iconic \u003ca href=\"https://www.destinationhotels.com/hotel-de-anza/hotel-de-anza-blog/spend-the-night-at-legendary-hotel-de-anza\">Hotel de Anza\u003c/a> in downtown San José. There aren’t a lot of these nostalgic throwbacks to the 1930s still standing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But art deco doesn’t really describe the building Veith is thinking of. It’s in a subcategory of art deco called streamline moderne, or nautical moderne. Which is to say: horizontal orientation, rounded edges and porthole-shaped windows. There’s something that looks like a navigation bridge popping out onto a third story. A rainbow flag flies high and proud from a hoist at the top of the building. The paint job is a white that Benjamin Moore might describe as “sand dollar” or “dune,” with French blue accents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whimsy or cheese? I’m going with whimsy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The building was designed for the \u003ca href=\"https://seascout.org\">Sea Scouts\u003c/a>, a maritime program of the Boy Scouts of America, by architect \u003ca href=\"https://www.paloaltohistory.org/birge-clark.php\">Birge Clark.\u003c/a> He’s the one behind the Palo Alto Post Office, the President Hotel and several Stanford buildings. Clark reportedly took his inspiration for the Sea Scout building from the pilot house of an old paddle wheel steamer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So that’s the story of what hits your eyeballs as you’re walking in the Baylands. The history of the building is just as compelling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11940610\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2139px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11940610\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts.jpg\" alt=\"A sepia toned photograph shows rows of young men in maritime uniforms in front of an Art Deco building that looks like a boat. What looks like a military band plays in foreground.\" width=\"2139\" height=\"1714\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts.jpg 2139w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-800x641.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-1020x817.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-160x128.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-1536x1231.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-2048x1641.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/disk-022-IMG0081-adj-sea-scouts-1920x1539.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2139px) 100vw, 2139px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Palo Alto Sea Scout Base was commissioned in May of 1941. That’s the Stanford Band in the foreground. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Hyde Forbes)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Palo Alto philanthropist Lucie Stern commissioned it as a home base for the \u003ca href=\"https://seascout.org\">Sea Scouts\u003c/a>. The building opened in 1941 to great fanfare, especially given the ongoing hostilities of World War II.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was a pivotal moment for the local chapter, which taught teenagers from as far north as Redwood City and as far south as San José. Their counterparts in the Girl Scouts were called the Mariners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kevin Murray was a Sea Scout. He joined in 1974, at the age of 14, and rose up through the ranks from apprentice to vice commodore for the western region. Over the years, he also became an amateur historian of the Sea Scouts on the Peninsula. He’s talked to old-timers before they died about \u003ca href=\"https://www.paloaltohistory.org/the-palo-alto-yacht-harbor.php\">the start of the harbor in 1928\u003c/a>, and the decades of fun and education that followed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That harbor was alive and well. It was teeming with families, with teenagers, a bunch of sailboats. Aww, man, it was a whole other world,” Murray said. “Imagine right in front of that building, an 85-foot PT boat.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A PT boat, by the way, was a motorized torpedo boat used by the Navy in World War II: small, fast and cheap to build. They were cheap to give away, too, to programs like the Sea Scouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11940611\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2048px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11940611\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6.jpg\" alt=\"A class photo taken outdoors of young, teenage boys looking jaunty in sailor outfits.\" width=\"2048\" height=\"1367\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/6-1920x1282.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2048px) 100vw, 2048px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Palo Alto Sea Scouts after a coastal summer cruise from PA to San Diego and return, circa 1969. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Skipper George Moore)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Here I was, a 14-year-old kid, and they put me on a WWII, 64-foot tugboat. I started as a deckhand and then I graduated to become an engineer, working on an engine the size of a train. So the first thing I noticed was we were being treated as men, not little boys anymore,” Murray said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There were adventurous trips to San Francisco and even Alaska. There were regattas and dances and lifelong friendships formed. Murray credits his time in the Sea Scouts for turning him into an educator. He was a political science professor for 30 years before he retired. Most of his brothers went into education, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But times change and so do social attitudes toward the environment. The dredging that made Palo Alto’s harbor operational stopped after a contentious citywide vote in 1986, to allow for the area to return to its original state as wetlands. Then in 1994, the Palo Alto and San Mateo County Sea Scout councils merged, and in 2002, they gave up the lease on the building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the years, while sitting empty, the foundation sank three feet into the mud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you come inside and you look at the floorboards, you can actually see the original floorboards and see some of the blackening as a result of some of that constant tide flow and flooding,” said Toby Goldberg, director of programs and partnerships at Environmental Volunteers. The local nonprofit where Goldberg works, and where Agnes Veith (our Bay Curious question-asker) volunteers, hosts field trips for some 50 schools in Silicon Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11940613\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11940613 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/AF5A903D-EFC1-4C58-9728-9352E8236814_1_201_a.jpeg\" alt=\"A gray goose, with a long black neck, white and black head, and wings outstretched, lifts off from a rippling, brown lake, three splashes from its feet behind it.\" width=\"640\" height=\"330\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/AF5A903D-EFC1-4C58-9728-9352E8236814_1_201_a.jpeg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/AF5A903D-EFC1-4C58-9728-9352E8236814_1_201_a-160x83.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Canada goose takes flight in the Palo Alto Baylands. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Agnes Veith)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The organization got hold of the building in the 2000s and lined up grant money to renovate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The refurbished Sea Scout building sits 4 feet higher than its forebear, to prevent future flooding due to tidal influx as well as sea level rise. But 4 feet may not be enough. “During particular times of the year, especially king tides, if there’s a storm, the water actually does come up sometimes over the deck. So we have had instances where there was a question of, ‘Did we need our kayaks for getting into work today?'” Goldberg said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"emailsignup","attributes":{"named":{"newslettername":"baycurious","align":"right","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>You might think that a building that looks like a boat circa World War II would be an odd choice for an outfit that teaches about wetlands. But somehow, it just feels right when you’re out there. Especially standing on the deck in the back and looking out over a calm expanse of mud and pickleweed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11940614\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11940614 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-scaled.jpeg\" alt='A big sign by a building that looks like a boat says \"Environmental Volunteers EcoCenter.\"' width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-800x600.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-1020x765.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/02/IMG_6014-1920x1440.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Environmental Volunteers EcoCenter in the Palo Alto Baylands. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hazel Watson, a former science educator now with Environmental Volunteers, can wax more poetic: “A whole vista of cordgrasses and the pickleweeds, with the channels that still remain here. Today, we’ve got lots of Northern shoveler ducks and Ridgeway’s rails. Sunset is beautiful here. It’s certainly the best part of the day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Goldberg added that the wetlands act like a nursery for a lot of organisms. “So we see things like bat rays, and we’ll see harbor seals occasionally coming through. Birds galore, [depending on] the season. So every time you come out here, you’re going to be seeing different things, different birds, different insects. You can see that all from the deck of this building that looks like a boat,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Don’t wait for the Sea Scout building to sink into the mud again. Make tracks and come see it, across from the duck pond, and bring your camera and a pair of binoculars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"baycuriousquestion","attributes":{"named":{"label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11940471/the-building-that-looks-like-a-boat-off-the-coast-of-palo-alto","authors":["251"],"programs":["news_33523"],"series":["news_17986"],"categories":["news_31795","news_19906","news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_17657","news_3812","news_20013","news_803","news_3553","news_23120"],"featImg":"news_11940474","label":"source_news_11940471"},"news_11699845":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11699845","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11699845","score":null,"sort":[1539979909000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"judge-sides-with-the-boy-scouts-of-america-in-lawsuit","title":"Judge Sides with the Boy Scouts of America in Lawsuit","publishDate":1539979909,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Superior Court Judge Harry Tobias has sided with the Boy Scouts of America during a hearing in San Benito County on Thursday. In the hearing, Tobias dismissed part of a lawsuit that would have forced the organization to release documents relating to allegations and records of sexual misconduct with minors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The documents, called “ineligible volunteer files” or “perversion files,” detail assault allegations against volunteers and scoutmasters. The lawsuit alleges that since 1965, the Boy Scouts has created over 5,000 of these private files, which are maintained at its corporate headquarters in Irving, Texas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/15/us/court-approves-release-of-boy-scouts-perversion-files.html?ref=kirkjohnson\">Back in 2010\u003c/a>, a court in Portland, Oregon ordered the release of thousands of pages of these documents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This element in the five-part complaint brought by Robert Kutz, alleged that the Boy Scouts caused a public nuisance by concealing the identities of those accused of abusing minors. The lawsuit called on the Boy Scouts to “identify each and every one of their current and former agents who have been accused of childhood sexual abuse” including where and when the alleged abuse took place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If the public nuisance cause of action had been able to continue, well the implication would have been that they would have been required to ultimately turn over these thousands of files, each one representing an individual perpetrator, to law enforcement, and to notify the public when they would have done so,” said Tim Hale, who represents Kutz. “And just having that information in the public record would have made today’s children safer, because it would have provided information to scouts, scout parents, scout volunteers, of who poses a risk and of the danger in scouting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawyers for the plaintiff have 30 days to amend the other complaints of negligence, fraud, negligent failure to warn, train, or educate the plaintiff, intentional infliction of emotional distress, childhood sexual abuse, and sexual battery. The Boy Scouts will have 30 days to respond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kutz’s lawsuit alleges that when he was a freshman in high school in 2002 to 2003, he was part of the Boy Scouts of America’s Explorers program run by the Hollister Police Department. It was during the program's ride-alongs that Kutz met Joseph Alvarado, who was then working as an emergency medical services specialist. According to the suit, Alvarado repeatedly sexually abused Kutz for years when Kutz was a teenager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kutz’s suit asserts that a culture of secrecy within the Boy Scouts and their non-disclosure of the history of abuse within the organization led to him becoming a target. Alvarado was arrested \u003ca href=\"http://sbso.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Press-Release-14-1312.pdf\">in 2014\u003c/a> on 24 counts of various sexual assault charges, including those relating to childhood sexual abuse, but not related to the alleged incident with Kutz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the center of the public nuisance complaint is whether or not Alvarado was under the jurisdiction of the Boy Scouts or the Hollister Police Department when the abuse took place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During oral arguments, Boy Scout’s counsel Douglas J. Dixon said, “the plaintiff has not alleged that the harm, the alleged abuse, occurred during a scouting activity. He claims that Mr. Alvarado may have groomed and befriended him during scouting activities, but none of the harm occurred then.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But according to Hale, whether or not Kutz was abused on the scouting trip itself, he says the police officers were supervising Kutz while he was participating in explorer activities. Therefore, in their capacity as explorer supervisors or as adult volunteers, they were under the control of the national organization of Boy Scouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it weren’t for these explorer activities, Mr. Kutz never would have met Mr. Alvarado,” said Hale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement given prior to the verdict, the Boy Scouts said “we are appalled by this man’s actions, and our thoughts are with any victim of abuse in any situation. While the individual was not affiliated with Scouting or Learning for Life when these alleged actions occurred, upon learning of these reports we took immediate action to prohibit him from any future participation in our programs. We thank the court for its thoughtful consideration of all viewpoints in this case.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A San Benito County judge issued a ruling in a case involving alleged sexual misconduct and the Boy Scouts. The organization won't have to disclose records some wanted made public.\r\n","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1539997014,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":711},"headData":{"title":"Judge Sides with the Boy Scouts of America in Lawsuit | KQED","description":"A San Benito County judge issued a ruling in a case involving alleged sexual misconduct and the Boy Scouts. The organization won't have to disclose records some wanted made public.\r\n","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Judge Sides with the Boy Scouts of America in Lawsuit","datePublished":"2018-10-19T20:11:49.000Z","dateModified":"2018-10-20T00:56:54.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11699845 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11699845","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/10/19/judge-sides-with-the-boy-scouts-of-america-in-lawsuit/","disqusTitle":"Judge Sides with the Boy Scouts of America in Lawsuit","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2018/10/McKenneyBoyScouts.mp3","audioTrackLength":130,"path":"/news/11699845/judge-sides-with-the-boy-scouts-of-america-in-lawsuit","parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Superior Court Judge Harry Tobias has sided with the Boy Scouts of America during a hearing in San Benito County on Thursday. In the hearing, Tobias dismissed part of a lawsuit that would have forced the organization to release documents relating to allegations and records of sexual misconduct with minors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The documents, called “ineligible volunteer files” or “perversion files,” detail assault allegations against volunteers and scoutmasters. The lawsuit alleges that since 1965, the Boy Scouts has created over 5,000 of these private files, which are maintained at its corporate headquarters in Irving, Texas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/15/us/court-approves-release-of-boy-scouts-perversion-files.html?ref=kirkjohnson\">Back in 2010\u003c/a>, a court in Portland, Oregon ordered the release of thousands of pages of these documents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This element in the five-part complaint brought by Robert Kutz, alleged that the Boy Scouts caused a public nuisance by concealing the identities of those accused of abusing minors. The lawsuit called on the Boy Scouts to “identify each and every one of their current and former agents who have been accused of childhood sexual abuse” including where and when the alleged abuse took place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If the public nuisance cause of action had been able to continue, well the implication would have been that they would have been required to ultimately turn over these thousands of files, each one representing an individual perpetrator, to law enforcement, and to notify the public when they would have done so,” said Tim Hale, who represents Kutz. “And just having that information in the public record would have made today’s children safer, because it would have provided information to scouts, scout parents, scout volunteers, of who poses a risk and of the danger in scouting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawyers for the plaintiff have 30 days to amend the other complaints of negligence, fraud, negligent failure to warn, train, or educate the plaintiff, intentional infliction of emotional distress, childhood sexual abuse, and sexual battery. The Boy Scouts will have 30 days to respond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kutz’s lawsuit alleges that when he was a freshman in high school in 2002 to 2003, he was part of the Boy Scouts of America’s Explorers program run by the Hollister Police Department. It was during the program's ride-alongs that Kutz met Joseph Alvarado, who was then working as an emergency medical services specialist. According to the suit, Alvarado repeatedly sexually abused Kutz for years when Kutz was a teenager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kutz’s suit asserts that a culture of secrecy within the Boy Scouts and their non-disclosure of the history of abuse within the organization led to him becoming a target. Alvarado was arrested \u003ca href=\"http://sbso.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Press-Release-14-1312.pdf\">in 2014\u003c/a> on 24 counts of various sexual assault charges, including those relating to childhood sexual abuse, but not related to the alleged incident with Kutz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the center of the public nuisance complaint is whether or not Alvarado was under the jurisdiction of the Boy Scouts or the Hollister Police Department when the abuse took place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During oral arguments, Boy Scout’s counsel Douglas J. Dixon said, “the plaintiff has not alleged that the harm, the alleged abuse, occurred during a scouting activity. He claims that Mr. Alvarado may have groomed and befriended him during scouting activities, but none of the harm occurred then.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But according to Hale, whether or not Kutz was abused on the scouting trip itself, he says the police officers were supervising Kutz while he was participating in explorer activities. Therefore, in their capacity as explorer supervisors or as adult volunteers, they were under the control of the national organization of Boy Scouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it weren’t for these explorer activities, Mr. Kutz never would have met Mr. Alvarado,” said Hale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement given prior to the verdict, the Boy Scouts said “we are appalled by this man’s actions, and our thoughts are with any victim of abuse in any situation. While the individual was not affiliated with Scouting or Learning for Life when these alleged actions occurred, upon learning of these reports we took immediate action to prohibit him from any future participation in our programs. We thank the court for its thoughtful consideration of all viewpoints in this case.”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11699845/judge-sides-with-the-boy-scouts-of-america-in-lawsuit","authors":["11526","11560"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_3812","news_23615","news_19542"],"featImg":"news_11667080","label":"news_72"},"news_11680276":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11680276","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11680276","score":null,"sort":[1531758773000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"photos-first-bay-area-girls-join-the-cub-scout-ranks","title":"PHOTOS: First Bay Area Girls Join the Cub Scout Ranks","publishDate":1531758773,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Graduation day for Cub Scout Pack 317 in San Jose was different from in years past: For the first time, girls were advancing through the ranks, following a historic decision by the Boy Scouts to let them participate in what had been, for more than a century, a boys-only program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pack was one of many Scouting units to make the change earlier this year before girls could officially enroll in June in all Cub Scouts programs nationwide. Pack 317 Cubmaster Chris Webb first broached the idea with the boys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There were a couple of them that gave me kind of a goofy, ‘yuck girls,’ kind of a response. But there wasn't a really big objection to it,” he said. “The parents were totally on board and we just decided this is the right thing to do. And so far, it's been great.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These girls are excited to be some of the first involved,” he said, adding that one of them could be the first Eagle Scout -- Scouting's highest honor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That excitement was palpable on graduation day at Baker Elementary School in May, when the girls -- like the boys -- got their faces painted, received new badges and swapped out their neckerchiefs to show that they’d graduated to the next level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680277\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680277 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Some fun at Baker Elementary School in San Jose with Paige Elorreaga testing out a pogo stick before the graduation festivities began. The girls integrated easily into the pack since they’d already been attending meetings with their brothers who were members and doing a lot of the same activities, said Cubmaster Chris Webb. “But since they weren't registered, they couldn't get recognition for the stuff that they were doing,” he said. Now that they are, they can “get the patches and earn the ranks, just like their brothers can.” \u003ccite>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680278\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680278 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Katia Dyrby, 9, graduated from wolf to bear rank (a pronouncement she made with a growl). “It's been a great year and I really loved it,” she said. “I love the outdoors activities and the things about nature.” Her brother, Alessio, is in Scouting and said of his sister: “She is an amazing Cub Scout and she's good at camping and hiking and everything.” When asked if she might one day achieve Eagle rank, Scouting’s highest honor, he said: “Probably.” \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680280\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680280 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shivam Singhal and Samuel Tong prepare the flag for graduation. Under the system set up by the national organization, there are now three types of Cub Scout packs: all-boy packs, all-girl packs and packs that include a mix of girl dens and boy dens -- the same model will be used for the older youth in the Boy Scouts (now known as Scouts BSA). Webb, however, said that system wasn’t practical for Pack 317. “I took the initiative to say, ‘Hey, we're going to fully integrate,' which is a little outside of the BSA guidelines,” he said. “It’s been fine.” \u003ccite>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680281\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680281 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Justin Webb prepares the neckerchiefs for the graduates. Scouts enter the tent with the neckerchiefs of their current rank and exit with next year’s rank on their uniforms to signify advancement to the next level. Part of Pack 317’s signing up to be a part of the pilot program is they had to give the girls the opportunity to do their rank advancement, which normally occurs over the period of a school year. With the first girls joining in January, the pack had to condense the advancement program into a few months, Webb said. “We made sure that the den leaders (dens make up a pack) -- the parents that are putting on the program -- were willing to go through some of the material a second time to make sure that the girls had a chance to finish. And they did great. They actually got through the stuff really quickly.” \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680282\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680282 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Paige, 9, said her brother, Logan, inspired her to join Cub Scouts. She likes learning about badges, knots, putting up a tent and making fires. She said she and her parents spoke about how she “could make history by joining Boy Scouts. That feels really good and really awesome.” Logan quipped that the change has made it easier for parents so they can do the Scouting activities together as a family. “It's better for the parents, too,” his dad, Brian agreed, chuckling. \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680283\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680283 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">“I think it's (being in Scouting) going to give Paige (coming out of tent) a lot of confidence, a lot of good values and morals for growing up and being a strong, powerful woman,” said her father, Brian. \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680573\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 5760px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11680573\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"5760\" height=\"3840\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4.jpg 5760w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 5760px) 100vw, 5760px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jenny Barelli, left, used to informally join her brothers at Cub Scouts before the program opened to girls. “She thought all the things that the boys were doing was a lot of fun. When they opened it up to girls we asked her if she wanted to do it and she said, ‘sure.’ We all come, all together on Wednesday night, and it's really been a fun, fun family activity,” said her mom, Nicole Barelli. Scouting provides her “opportunities to try new things and she's a very athletic, active girl. They play a lot of games and it just gives her more opportunities to play with kids from our neighborhood.” (Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680286\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680286 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cubmaster Chris Webb gives Katia Dyrby the Cub Scout handshake. Girls can join Scouts BSA -- the program formerly known as Boy Scouts -- in early 2019. Webb said the only concern he has heard from boys about that upcoming change is “maybe the girls might take over some of the leadership positions and take charge. A lot of the boys in that age want to stand back and don't want to take on those leadership roles. And so now they'll have to put their game on and compete, right, because the girls are going to come in and really do well.” \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The pack was one of many Scouting units to make the change earlier this year before girls could officially enroll in June in all Cub Scouts programs nationwide.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1531759104,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":7,"wordCount":1063},"headData":{"title":"PHOTOS: First Bay Area Girls Join the Cub Scout Ranks | KQED","description":"The pack was one of many Scouting units to make the change earlier this year before girls could officially enroll in June in all Cub Scouts programs nationwide.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"PHOTOS: First Bay Area Girls Join the Cub Scout Ranks","datePublished":"2018-07-16T16:32:53.000Z","dateModified":"2018-07-16T16:38:24.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11680276 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11680276","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/07/16/photos-first-bay-area-girls-join-the-cub-scout-ranks/","disqusTitle":"PHOTOS: First Bay Area Girls Join the Cub Scout Ranks","path":"/news/11680276/photos-first-bay-area-girls-join-the-cub-scout-ranks","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Graduation day for Cub Scout Pack 317 in San Jose was different from in years past: For the first time, girls were advancing through the ranks, following a historic decision by the Boy Scouts to let them participate in what had been, for more than a century, a boys-only program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The pack was one of many Scouting units to make the change earlier this year before girls could officially enroll in June in all Cub Scouts programs nationwide. Pack 317 Cubmaster Chris Webb first broached the idea with the boys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There were a couple of them that gave me kind of a goofy, ‘yuck girls,’ kind of a response. But there wasn't a really big objection to it,” he said. “The parents were totally on board and we just decided this is the right thing to do. And so far, it's been great.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These girls are excited to be some of the first involved,” he said, adding that one of them could be the first Eagle Scout -- Scouting's highest honor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That excitement was palpable on graduation day at Baker Elementary School in May, when the girls -- like the boys -- got their faces painted, received new badges and swapped out their neckerchiefs to show that they’d graduated to the next level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680277\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680277 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_1-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Some fun at Baker Elementary School in San Jose with Paige Elorreaga testing out a pogo stick before the graduation festivities began. The girls integrated easily into the pack since they’d already been attending meetings with their brothers who were members and doing a lot of the same activities, said Cubmaster Chris Webb. “But since they weren't registered, they couldn't get recognition for the stuff that they were doing,” he said. Now that they are, they can “get the patches and earn the ranks, just like their brothers can.” \u003ccite>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680278\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680278 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_2-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Katia Dyrby, 9, graduated from wolf to bear rank (a pronouncement she made with a growl). “It's been a great year and I really loved it,” she said. “I love the outdoors activities and the things about nature.” Her brother, Alessio, is in Scouting and said of his sister: “She is an amazing Cub Scout and she's good at camping and hiking and everything.” When asked if she might one day achieve Eagle rank, Scouting’s highest honor, he said: “Probably.” \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680280\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680280 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_3-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shivam Singhal and Samuel Tong prepare the flag for graduation. Under the system set up by the national organization, there are now three types of Cub Scout packs: all-boy packs, all-girl packs and packs that include a mix of girl dens and boy dens -- the same model will be used for the older youth in the Boy Scouts (now known as Scouts BSA). Webb, however, said that system wasn’t practical for Pack 317. “I took the initiative to say, ‘Hey, we're going to fully integrate,' which is a little outside of the BSA guidelines,” he said. “It’s been fine.” \u003ccite>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680281\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680281 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_4-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Justin Webb prepares the neckerchiefs for the graduates. Scouts enter the tent with the neckerchiefs of their current rank and exit with next year’s rank on their uniforms to signify advancement to the next level. Part of Pack 317’s signing up to be a part of the pilot program is they had to give the girls the opportunity to do their rank advancement, which normally occurs over the period of a school year. With the first girls joining in January, the pack had to condense the advancement program into a few months, Webb said. “We made sure that the den leaders (dens make up a pack) -- the parents that are putting on the program -- were willing to go through some of the material a second time to make sure that the girls had a chance to finish. And they did great. They actually got through the stuff really quickly.” \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680282\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680282 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_5-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Paige, 9, said her brother, Logan, inspired her to join Cub Scouts. She likes learning about badges, knots, putting up a tent and making fires. She said she and her parents spoke about how she “could make history by joining Boy Scouts. That feels really good and really awesome.” Logan quipped that the change has made it easier for parents so they can do the Scouting activities together as a family. “It's better for the parents, too,” his dad, Brian agreed, chuckling. \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680283\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680283 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_7-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">“I think it's (being in Scouting) going to give Paige (coming out of tent) a lot of confidence, a lot of good values and morals for growing up and being a strong, powerful woman,” said her father, Brian. \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680573\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 5760px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11680573\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"5760\" height=\"3840\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4.jpg 5760w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/180516untitled-4-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 5760px) 100vw, 5760px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jenny Barelli, left, used to informally join her brothers at Cub Scouts before the program opened to girls. “She thought all the things that the boys were doing was a lot of fun. When they opened it up to girls we asked her if she wanted to do it and she said, ‘sure.’ We all come, all together on Wednesday night, and it's really been a fun, fun family activity,” said her mom, Nicole Barelli. Scouting provides her “opportunities to try new things and she's a very athletic, active girl. They play a lot of games and it just gives her more opportunities to play with kids from our neighborhood.” (Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11680286\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11680286 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/07/cs_11-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cubmaster Chris Webb gives Katia Dyrby the Cub Scout handshake. Girls can join Scouts BSA -- the program formerly known as Boy Scouts -- in early 2019. Webb said the only concern he has heard from boys about that upcoming change is “maybe the girls might take over some of the leadership positions and take charge. A lot of the boys in that age want to stand back and don't want to take on those leadership roles. And so now they'll have to put their game on and compete, right, because the girls are going to come in and really do well.” \u003cem>(Samantha Shanahan/KQED)\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11680276/photos-first-bay-area-girls-join-the-cub-scout-ranks","authors":["11310","11409"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_3812","news_23182","news_23181"],"featImg":"news_11680285","label":"news_72"},"news_11667071":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11667071","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11667071","score":null,"sort":[1525818943000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"will-your-daughter-join-the-boy-scouts-has-she-joined-cub-scouts","title":"Will Your Daughter Join the Boy Scouts? Has She Joined Cub Scouts?","publishDate":1525818943,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>It's another historic moment for the Boy Scouts of America in recent years: Girls were welcomed into the ranks of the Cub Scouts this year, and by 2019 they'll be allowed to join the Boy Scouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the BSA \u003ca href=\"https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/bsa-expands-programs-welcome-girls-cub-scouts-highest-rank-eagle-scout/\">announced\u003c/a> the membership decision last October, the organization said more than 3,000 girls had enrolled in its \"early adopter program\" for Cub Scouts -- before a full launch later this year for the group serving youth ages 5 to 10.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The move comes after years of contentious debate over membership questions, primarily whether LGBTQ people should be allowed to participate. BSA decided to let openly gay youth join in 2013 and transgender kids in 2017; in 2015, the group said it would \u003ca href=\"https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/blog/update-on-adult-leadership-standards/\">end a national ban\u003c/a> on gay adult leaders but permit the chartered organizations that sponsor troops and packs to make their own decisions at the local level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Given the big changes in Scouting in recent years, we'd like to know if your daughter has plans to join the Boy Scouts --\u003ca href=\"https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/scout-me-in/\"> renamed Scouts BSA last week\u003c/a> -- when it opens up to girls (or if she has already become a member of the Cub Scouts). We're interested in hearing about their experience, so \u003ca href=\"https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfoa3cNNgSumiYjzMvQw-8qgL8MfbvNLK5qnJEu5245jLk6hg/viewform\">complete our form\u003c/a> by May 18 and we may reach out for an interview.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Given the big changes in Scouting in recent years, we'd like to know if your daughter has plans to join the Boy Scouts when it opens up to girls.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1525829023,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":6,"wordCount":224},"headData":{"title":"Will Your Daughter Join the Boy Scouts? 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Has She Joined Cub Scouts?","path":"/news/11667071/will-your-daughter-join-the-boy-scouts-has-she-joined-cub-scouts","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>It's another historic moment for the Boy Scouts of America in recent years: Girls were welcomed into the ranks of the Cub Scouts this year, and by 2019 they'll be allowed to join the Boy Scouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the BSA \u003ca href=\"https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/bsa-expands-programs-welcome-girls-cub-scouts-highest-rank-eagle-scout/\">announced\u003c/a> the membership decision last October, the organization said more than 3,000 girls had enrolled in its \"early adopter program\" for Cub Scouts -- before a full launch later this year for the group serving youth ages 5 to 10.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The move comes after years of contentious debate over membership questions, primarily whether LGBTQ people should be allowed to participate. BSA decided to let openly gay youth join in 2013 and transgender kids in 2017; in 2015, the group said it would \u003ca href=\"https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/blog/update-on-adult-leadership-standards/\">end a national ban\u003c/a> on gay adult leaders but permit the chartered organizations that sponsor troops and packs to make their own decisions at the local level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Given the big changes in Scouting in recent years, we'd like to know if your daughter has plans to join the Boy Scouts --\u003ca href=\"https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/scout-me-in/\"> renamed Scouts BSA last week\u003c/a> -- when it opens up to girls (or if she has already become a member of the Cub Scouts). We're interested in hearing about their experience, so \u003ca href=\"https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfoa3cNNgSumiYjzMvQw-8qgL8MfbvNLK5qnJEu5245jLk6hg/viewform\">complete our form\u003c/a> by May 18 and we may reach out for an interview.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11667071/will-your-daughter-join-the-boy-scouts-has-she-joined-cub-scouts","authors":["11310"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_3812","news_23182","news_23181"],"featImg":"news_11667082","label":"news_72"},"news_11622540":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11622540","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11622540","score":null,"sort":[1507756832000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"in-major-shift-boy-scouts-says-it-will-begin-allowing-girls-to-join","title":"In Major Shift, Boy Scouts Says it Will Begin Allowing Girls to Join","publishDate":1507756832,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>In a move that shakes up more than a century of tradition, the Boy Scouts of America announced Wednesday that starting next year, it will welcome girls into some Scouting programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The BSA said in a \u003ca href=\"http://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/bsa-expands-programs-welcome-girls-cub-scouts-highest-rank-eagle-scout/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">statement\u003c/a> on its site that girls can join its \u003ca href=\"http://www.scouting.org/Home/CubScouts/CubScouts/BeingACubScout/WhatIsCubScouting.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cub Scouts\u003c/a> program starting in 2018. It will be up to existing packs to decide whether they will remain all-boys, go co-ed or create all-girl divisions. Cub Scout dens, which are smaller units of six to eight kids within packs, will remain single-gender.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for older girls, the organization says it will announce a program next year that will enable them to earn the highest rank of Eagle Scout. It hopes to have the program in place in 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This unique approach allows the organization to maintain the integrity of the single gender model while also meeting the needs of today's families,\" BSA said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The decision comes after years of requests from families, the organization said. \"Most are dual-earners and there are more single-parent households than ever before, making convenient programs that serve the whole family more appealing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It added that the move is also geared toward Hispanic and Asian communities, which are \"currently underserved\" and \"prefer to participate in activities as a family.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Boy Scouts serves more than 2 million young people, according to last year's \u003ca href=\"http://www.scouting.org/filestore/annualreport/2016/2016_AnnualReport.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">annual report\u003c/a>. The organization has moved to become more inclusive, after years of \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-boyscouts/boy-scout-membership-falls-again-in-2014-idUSKBN0KQ05O20150117\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">declining\u003c/a> membership — announcing in 2013 that it would admit openly gay youths and ending a \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/27/426900665/boy-scouts-of-america-end-blanket-ban-on-gay-leaders\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">blanket ban\u003c/a> on gay leaders in 2015. Earlier this year, the group \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/31/512541372/boy-scouts-will-admit-transgender-boys\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">announced\u003c/a> it would admit transgender boys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As The Two-Way \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/24/545823610/boy-scouts-exploring-co-ed-programming-provokes-girl-scout-ire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported\u003c/a> in August, the Boy Scouts had for months been \"exploring the benefits of bringing Scouting to every member of the family — boys and girls,\" according to spokeswoman Effie Delimarkos. That didn't sit well with the Girl Scouts of the USA, whose leadership accused the Boy Scouts of running a \"covert campaign to recruit girls.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a scathing letter published by \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/girl-scouts-letter-to-boy-scouts?utm_term=.gnElYrNBpQ#.mfL5dDmZ2B\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">BuzzFeed News\u003c/a> at the time, Girl Scouts National Board President Kathy Hopinkah Hannan called the Boy Scouts' plan unsettling and said it would only serve to undercut the Girl Scouts. She added that a co-ed model goes against \"research supporting single gender programming.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Girl Scouts did not immediately respond to a request for comment following the Boy Scouts' decision Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Boy Scouts already has certain \u003ca href=\"http://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/about-the-bsa/fact-sheets/overview-of-boy-scouts-of-america/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">co-ed programs\u003c/a> in place, including Venturers and Sea Scouts, both billed as character-building programs, and Exploring, which focuses on career building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The announcement about welcoming girls came on the \u003ca href=\"http://www.un.org/en/events/girlchild/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">International Day of the Girl\u003c/a>, which the U.N. says, \"aims to highlight and address the needs and challenges girls face, while promoting girls' empowerment and the fulfillment of their human rights.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=In+Major+Shift%2C+Boy+Scouts+Says+It+Will+Begin+Allowing+Girls+To+Join&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Boy Scouts of America says that girls can join its Cub Scout program beginning next year and that it hopes to have a program in place for older girls in 2019.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1507756958,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":14,"wordCount":489},"headData":{"title":"In Major Shift, Boy Scouts Says it Will Begin Allowing Girls to Join | KQED","description":"The Boy Scouts of America says that girls can join its Cub Scout program beginning next year and that it hopes to have a program in place for older girls in 2019.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"In Major Shift, Boy Scouts Says it Will Begin Allowing Girls to Join","datePublished":"2017-10-11T21:20:32.000Z","dateModified":"2017-10-11T21:22:38.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11622540 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11622540","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/10/11/in-major-shift-boy-scouts-says-it-will-begin-allowing-girls-to-join/","disqusTitle":"In Major Shift, Boy Scouts Says it Will Begin Allowing Girls to Join","source":"NPR","sourceUrl":"http://www.npr.org/","nprImageCredit":"Mary Altaffer","nprByline":"\u003cstrong>Amy Held\u003cbr>NPR\u003c/strong>","nprImageAgency":"AP","nprStoryId":"557144847","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=557144847&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/11/557144847/in-major-shift-boy-scouts-says-it-will-begin-allowing-girls-to-join?ft=nprml&f=557144847","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:11:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Wed, 11 Oct 2017 15:48:00 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:11:41 -0400","path":"/news/11622540/in-major-shift-boy-scouts-says-it-will-begin-allowing-girls-to-join","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In a move that shakes up more than a century of tradition, the Boy Scouts of America announced Wednesday that starting next year, it will welcome girls into some Scouting programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The BSA said in a \u003ca href=\"http://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/bsa-expands-programs-welcome-girls-cub-scouts-highest-rank-eagle-scout/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">statement\u003c/a> on its site that girls can join its \u003ca href=\"http://www.scouting.org/Home/CubScouts/CubScouts/BeingACubScout/WhatIsCubScouting.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cub Scouts\u003c/a> program starting in 2018. It will be up to existing packs to decide whether they will remain all-boys, go co-ed or create all-girl divisions. Cub Scout dens, which are smaller units of six to eight kids within packs, will remain single-gender.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for older girls, the organization says it will announce a program next year that will enable them to earn the highest rank of Eagle Scout. It hopes to have the program in place in 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This unique approach allows the organization to maintain the integrity of the single gender model while also meeting the needs of today's families,\" BSA said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The decision comes after years of requests from families, the organization said. \"Most are dual-earners and there are more single-parent households than ever before, making convenient programs that serve the whole family more appealing.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It added that the move is also geared toward Hispanic and Asian communities, which are \"currently underserved\" and \"prefer to participate in activities as a family.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Boy Scouts serves more than 2 million young people, according to last year's \u003ca href=\"http://www.scouting.org/filestore/annualreport/2016/2016_AnnualReport.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">annual report\u003c/a>. The organization has moved to become more inclusive, after years of \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-boyscouts/boy-scout-membership-falls-again-in-2014-idUSKBN0KQ05O20150117\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">declining\u003c/a> membership — announcing in 2013 that it would admit openly gay youths and ending a \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/27/426900665/boy-scouts-of-america-end-blanket-ban-on-gay-leaders\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">blanket ban\u003c/a> on gay leaders in 2015. Earlier this year, the group \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/31/512541372/boy-scouts-will-admit-transgender-boys\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">announced\u003c/a> it would admit transgender boys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As The Two-Way \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/24/545823610/boy-scouts-exploring-co-ed-programming-provokes-girl-scout-ire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported\u003c/a> in August, the Boy Scouts had for months been \"exploring the benefits of bringing Scouting to every member of the family — boys and girls,\" according to spokeswoman Effie Delimarkos. That didn't sit well with the Girl Scouts of the USA, whose leadership accused the Boy Scouts of running a \"covert campaign to recruit girls.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a scathing letter published by \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/girl-scouts-letter-to-boy-scouts?utm_term=.gnElYrNBpQ#.mfL5dDmZ2B\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">BuzzFeed News\u003c/a> at the time, Girl Scouts National Board President Kathy Hopinkah Hannan called the Boy Scouts' plan unsettling and said it would only serve to undercut the Girl Scouts. She added that a co-ed model goes against \"research supporting single gender programming.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Girl Scouts did not immediately respond to a request for comment following the Boy Scouts' decision Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Boy Scouts already has certain \u003ca href=\"http://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/about-the-bsa/fact-sheets/overview-of-boy-scouts-of-america/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">co-ed programs\u003c/a> in place, including Venturers and Sea Scouts, both billed as character-building programs, and Exploring, which focuses on career building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The announcement about welcoming girls came on the \u003ca href=\"http://www.un.org/en/events/girlchild/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">International Day of the Girl\u003c/a>, which the U.N. says, \"aims to highlight and address the needs and challenges girls face, while promoting girls' empowerment and the fulfillment of their human rights.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=In+Major+Shift%2C+Boy+Scouts+Says+It+Will+Begin+Allowing+Girls+To+Join&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11622540/in-major-shift-boy-scouts-says-it-will-begin-allowing-girls-to-join","authors":["byline_news_11622540"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_223","news_8"],"tags":["news_3812"],"featImg":"news_11622570","label":"source_news_11622540"},"news_11597160":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11597160","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11597160","score":null,"sort":[1501191454000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"boy-scouts-chief-apologizes-for-political-rhetoric-in-trumps-speech","title":"Boy Scouts Chief Apologizes For 'Political Rhetoric' In Trump's Speech","publishDate":1501191454,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>The head of the Boy Scouts of America apologized Thursday to the organization's members, telling them that the group did not intend to showcase the \"political rhetoric\" in President Trump's speech to the National Jamboree earlier this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree. That was never our intent,\" Michael Surbaugh, the chief Scout executive for the group, wrote in \u003ca href=\"http://scoutingwire.org/chief-perspective-presidential-visit/\">a statement posted Thursday\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The speech, delivered Monday at a national gathering of Scouts, staff and volunteers in West Virginia, drew fire from critics who felt the president inappropriately brought partisan arguments to a typically nonpartisan setting — despite Trump's early promise to \"put aside all of the policy fights in Washington, D.C.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the course of Trump's remarks, the president called on his secretary of health and human services to \"start our path toward killing this horrible thing known as Obamacare that's really hurting us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tom Price \"better get Sen. [Shelley Moore] Capito to vote for it,\" Trump said, referencing the Republican senator from West Virginia. \"He better get the other senators to vote for it. It's time. You know, after seven years of saying 'repeal and replace Obamacare,' we have a chance to now do it. They better do it. Hopefully, they'll do it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then he reminisced (in detail) about his Electoral College victory in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All told, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/07/25/539241800/trump-s-boy-scouts-speech-and-the-thin-line-between-openness-and-recklessness\">NPR's Domenico Montanaro reports\u003c/a> Trump touched on the latest jobs report, the \"fake media\" and his promises of \"billions and billions and billions\" in increased military spending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But many parents, former Scouts and onlookers \u003ca href=\"http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40715185\">raised a chorus of criticism\u003c/a> about the contents of the speech — perhaps nowhere more loudly than in \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/theboyscoutsofamerica/\">comments on the organization's Facebook page\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As a former Scout, as well as a former employee of Philmont Scout Ranch, I am beyond appalled that the Jamboree was turned into a political rally tonight,\" one parent \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/theboyscoutsofamerica/videos/10154492669421650/?comment_id=10154494241226650&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D\">noted on Monday\u003c/a>. \"Unless the BSA condemns the President's conduct (which included bullying, name-calling, and swearing) in strong and clear terms, I will know that there is no place for my two sons in scouting.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, Surbaugh said the invitation to Trump was not meant as an endorsement of his — or any politician's — policies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The invitation for the sitting U.S. President to visit the National Jamboree is a long-standing tradition that has been extended to the leader of our nation that has had a Jamboree during his term since 1937. It is in no way an endorsement of any person, party or policies,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For years, people have called upon us to take a position on political issues, and we have steadfastly remained non-partisan and refused to comment on political matters. We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And he called for the Boy Scouts to play a role in political healing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In a time when differences seem to separate our country, we hope the true spirit of Scouting will empower our next generation of leaders to bring people together to do good in the world.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked about Surbaugh's statement Thursday, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said she had not seen it — but did note that on Monday, she saw \"probably one of the most energetic crowds I've seen in front of the president.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was at that event, and I saw nothing but roughly 40,000 to 45,000 Boy Scouts cheering the president on throughout his remarks,\" she said, \"and I think they were pretty excited that he was there and happy to hear him speak to them.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"\"We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program,\" Michael Surbaugh said. His apology came after Trump derided Obamacare and \"fake media\" in remarks to the National Jamboree.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1501192581,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":629},"headData":{"title":"Boy Scouts Chief Apologizes For 'Political Rhetoric' In Trump's Speech | KQED","description":""We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program," Michael Surbaugh said. 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That was never our intent,\" Michael Surbaugh, the chief Scout executive for the group, wrote in \u003ca href=\"http://scoutingwire.org/chief-perspective-presidential-visit/\">a statement posted Thursday\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The speech, delivered Monday at a national gathering of Scouts, staff and volunteers in West Virginia, drew fire from critics who felt the president inappropriately brought partisan arguments to a typically nonpartisan setting — despite Trump's early promise to \"put aside all of the policy fights in Washington, D.C.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the course of Trump's remarks, the president called on his secretary of health and human services to \"start our path toward killing this horrible thing known as Obamacare that's really hurting us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tom Price \"better get Sen. [Shelley Moore] Capito to vote for it,\" Trump said, referencing the Republican senator from West Virginia. \"He better get the other senators to vote for it. It's time. You know, after seven years of saying 'repeal and replace Obamacare,' we have a chance to now do it. They better do it. Hopefully, they'll do it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then he reminisced (in detail) about his Electoral College victory in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All told, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/07/25/539241800/trump-s-boy-scouts-speech-and-the-thin-line-between-openness-and-recklessness\">NPR's Domenico Montanaro reports\u003c/a> Trump touched on the latest jobs report, the \"fake media\" and his promises of \"billions and billions and billions\" in increased military spending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But many parents, former Scouts and onlookers \u003ca href=\"http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40715185\">raised a chorus of criticism\u003c/a> about the contents of the speech — perhaps nowhere more loudly than in \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/theboyscoutsofamerica/\">comments on the organization's Facebook page\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As a former Scout, as well as a former employee of Philmont Scout Ranch, I am beyond appalled that the Jamboree was turned into a political rally tonight,\" one parent \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/theboyscoutsofamerica/videos/10154492669421650/?comment_id=10154494241226650&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D\">noted on Monday\u003c/a>. \"Unless the BSA condemns the President's conduct (which included bullying, name-calling, and swearing) in strong and clear terms, I will know that there is no place for my two sons in scouting.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, Surbaugh said the invitation to Trump was not meant as an endorsement of his — or any politician's — policies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The invitation for the sitting U.S. President to visit the National Jamboree is a long-standing tradition that has been extended to the leader of our nation that has had a Jamboree during his term since 1937. It is in no way an endorsement of any person, party or policies,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For years, people have called upon us to take a position on political issues, and we have steadfastly remained non-partisan and refused to comment on political matters. We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And he called for the Boy Scouts to play a role in political healing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In a time when differences seem to separate our country, we hope the true spirit of Scouting will empower our next generation of leaders to bring people together to do good in the world.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Asked about Surbaugh's statement Thursday, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said she had not seen it — but did note that on Monday, she saw \"probably one of the most energetic crowds I've seen in front of the president.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was at that event, and I saw nothing but roughly 40,000 to 45,000 Boy Scouts cheering the president on throughout his remarks,\" she said, \"and I think they were pretty excited that he was there and happy to hear him speak to them.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11597160/boy-scouts-chief-apologizes-for-political-rhetoric-in-trumps-speech","authors":["byline_news_11597160"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_3812","news_1323"],"featImg":"news_11597161","label":"source_news_11597160"},"news_10619448":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10619448","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10619448","score":null,"sort":[1438096743000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"boy-scouts-open-leadership-ranks-to-gay-members","title":"Boy Scouts Open Leadership Ranks to Gay Members","publishDate":1438096743,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/6uTnjI6szUQ\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NEW YORK — The Boy Scouts of America on Monday ended its blanket ban on gay adult leaders, while allowing church-sponsored Scout units to maintain the exclusion for religious reasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new policy, aimed at easing a controversy that has embroiled the Boy Scouts for years, takes effect immediately. It was approved by the BSA's National Executive Board on a 45-12 vote during a closed-to-the-media teleconference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For far too long this issue has divided and distracted us,\" said the BSA's president, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, in a video message (above). \"Now it's time to unite behind our shared belief in the extraordinary power of Scouting to be a force for good.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Initial reactions to the decision from groups on both sides suggested the issue would remain divisive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Mormon Church, which sponsors more Scout units that any other organization, said it was \"deeply troubled\" by the decision. Church officials suggested they would look into the possibility of forming their own organization to replace Boy Scouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The admission of openly gay leaders is inconsistent with the doctrines of the Church and what have traditionally been the values of the Boy Scouts of America,\" said a statement from Mormon headquarters in Salt Lake City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In contrast, the Human Rights Campaign, a national LGBT-rights organization, said the Boy Scouts should not allow church-sponsored units to continue excluding gays.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Discrimination should have no place in the Boy Scouts, period,\" said the HRC's president, Chad Griffin. \"BSA officials should now demonstrate true leadership and begin the process of considering a full national policy of inclusion.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'For far too long this issue has divided and distracted us. ... It's time to unite behind our shared belief in the extraordinary power of Scouting to be a force for good.'\u003ccite>Robert Gates,\u003cbr>\nPresident, Boy Scouts of America\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Gates foreshadowed Monday's action on May 21, when he told the Scouts' national meeting that the long-standing ban on participation by openly gay adults was no longer sustainable. He said the ban was likely to be the target of lawsuits that the Scouts likely would lose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two weeks ago, the new policy was approved unanimously by the BSA's 17-member National Executive Committee. It would allow local Scout units to select adult leaders without regard to sexual orientation — a stance that several Scout councils have already adopted in defiance of the official national policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2013, after heated internal debate, the BSA decided to allow openly gay youth as scouts, but not gay adults as leaders. Several denominations that collectively sponsor close to half of all Scout units — including the Roman Catholic Church, the Mormon Church and the Southern Baptist Convention — have been apprehensive about ending the ban on gay adults.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The BSA's top leaders pledged to defend the right of any church-sponsored units to continue excluding gays as adult volunteers. But that assurance has not satisfied some conservative church leaders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In recent years I have seen a definite cooling on the part of Baptist churches toward the Scouts,\" said the Rev. Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission. \"This will probably bring that cooling to a freeze.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A more nuanced response came from the National Catholic Committee on Scouting, which expressed interest in maintaining its ties with the BSA, but also voiced concerns. Notably, it conveyed a reluctance to accept participation by anyone who engaged in sexual conduct outside of a heterosexual marriage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the BSA's new policy, gay leaders who were previously removed from Scouting because of the ban would have the opportunity to reapply for volunteer positions. If otherwise qualified, a gay adult would be eligible to serve as a Scoutmaster or unit leader.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gates, who became the BSA's president in May 2014, said at the time that he personally would have favored ending the ban on gay adults, but he opposed any further debate after the Scouts' policymaking body upheld the ban. In May, he said that recent events \"have confronted us with urgent challenges I did not foresee and which we cannot ignore.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He cited an announcement by the BSA's New York City chapter in early April that it had hired Pascal Tessier, the nation's first openly gay Eagle Scout, as a summer camp leader. Gates also cited broader gay rights developments and warned that rigidly maintaining the ban \"will be the end of us as a national movement.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The BSA's right to exclude gays was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000. But since then, the policy has prompted numerous major corporations to suspend charitable donations to the Scouts and strained relations with some municipalities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More recently, the BSA faced a civil rights investigation in New York and lawsuits in other states over the ban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kenneth Upton, a lawyer for the LGBT-rights group Lambda Legal, questioned whether the BSA's new policy to let church-sponsored units continue to exclude gay adults would be sustainable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There will be a period of time where they'll have some legal protection,\" Upton said. \"But that doesn't mean the lawsuits won't keep coming. ... They will become increasingly marginalized from the direction society is going.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like several other major youth organizations, the Boy Scouts have experienced a membership decline in recent decades. Current membership, according to the BSA, is about 2.4 million boys and about 1 million adults.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the 2013 decision to admit gay youth, some conservatives split from the BSA to form a new group, Trail Life USA, which has created its own ranks, badges and uniforms. The group claims a membership of more than 25,000 youths and adults.\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>\u003cbr>\nAssociated Press writer Brady McCombs in Salt Lake City contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Board decision allows Scout troops organized by religious groups to continue to exclude gay leaders.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1438131581,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":976},"headData":{"title":"Boy Scouts Open Leadership Ranks to Gay Members | KQED","description":"Board decision allows Scout troops organized by religious groups to continue to exclude gay leaders.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Boy Scouts Open Leadership Ranks to Gay Members","datePublished":"2015-07-28T15:19:03.000Z","dateModified":"2015-07-29T00:59:41.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"10619448 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10619448","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/07/28/boy-scouts-open-leadership-ranks-to-gay-members/","disqusTitle":"Boy Scouts Open Leadership Ranks to Gay Members","nprByline":"\u003cstrong>David Crary\u003cbr />Associated Press\u003c/strong>","path":"/news/10619448/boy-scouts-open-leadership-ranks-to-gay-members","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/6uTnjI6szUQ\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>NEW YORK — The Boy Scouts of America on Monday ended its blanket ban on gay adult leaders, while allowing church-sponsored Scout units to maintain the exclusion for religious reasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new policy, aimed at easing a controversy that has embroiled the Boy Scouts for years, takes effect immediately. It was approved by the BSA's National Executive Board on a 45-12 vote during a closed-to-the-media teleconference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"For far too long this issue has divided and distracted us,\" said the BSA's president, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, in a video message (above). \"Now it's time to unite behind our shared belief in the extraordinary power of Scouting to be a force for good.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Initial reactions to the decision from groups on both sides suggested the issue would remain divisive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Mormon Church, which sponsors more Scout units that any other organization, said it was \"deeply troubled\" by the decision. Church officials suggested they would look into the possibility of forming their own organization to replace Boy Scouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The admission of openly gay leaders is inconsistent with the doctrines of the Church and what have traditionally been the values of the Boy Scouts of America,\" said a statement from Mormon headquarters in Salt Lake City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In contrast, the Human Rights Campaign, a national LGBT-rights organization, said the Boy Scouts should not allow church-sponsored units to continue excluding gays.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Discrimination should have no place in the Boy Scouts, period,\" said the HRC's president, Chad Griffin. \"BSA officials should now demonstrate true leadership and begin the process of considering a full national policy of inclusion.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'For far too long this issue has divided and distracted us. ... It's time to unite behind our shared belief in the extraordinary power of Scouting to be a force for good.'\u003ccite>Robert Gates,\u003cbr>\nPresident, Boy Scouts of America\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Gates foreshadowed Monday's action on May 21, when he told the Scouts' national meeting that the long-standing ban on participation by openly gay adults was no longer sustainable. He said the ban was likely to be the target of lawsuits that the Scouts likely would lose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two weeks ago, the new policy was approved unanimously by the BSA's 17-member National Executive Committee. It would allow local Scout units to select adult leaders without regard to sexual orientation — a stance that several Scout councils have already adopted in defiance of the official national policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2013, after heated internal debate, the BSA decided to allow openly gay youth as scouts, but not gay adults as leaders. Several denominations that collectively sponsor close to half of all Scout units — including the Roman Catholic Church, the Mormon Church and the Southern Baptist Convention — have been apprehensive about ending the ban on gay adults.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The BSA's top leaders pledged to defend the right of any church-sponsored units to continue excluding gays as adult volunteers. But that assurance has not satisfied some conservative church leaders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In recent years I have seen a definite cooling on the part of Baptist churches toward the Scouts,\" said the Rev. Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission. \"This will probably bring that cooling to a freeze.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A more nuanced response came from the National Catholic Committee on Scouting, which expressed interest in maintaining its ties with the BSA, but also voiced concerns. Notably, it conveyed a reluctance to accept participation by anyone who engaged in sexual conduct outside of a heterosexual marriage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the BSA's new policy, gay leaders who were previously removed from Scouting because of the ban would have the opportunity to reapply for volunteer positions. If otherwise qualified, a gay adult would be eligible to serve as a Scoutmaster or unit leader.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gates, who became the BSA's president in May 2014, said at the time that he personally would have favored ending the ban on gay adults, but he opposed any further debate after the Scouts' policymaking body upheld the ban. In May, he said that recent events \"have confronted us with urgent challenges I did not foresee and which we cannot ignore.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He cited an announcement by the BSA's New York City chapter in early April that it had hired Pascal Tessier, the nation's first openly gay Eagle Scout, as a summer camp leader. Gates also cited broader gay rights developments and warned that rigidly maintaining the ban \"will be the end of us as a national movement.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The BSA's right to exclude gays was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000. But since then, the policy has prompted numerous major corporations to suspend charitable donations to the Scouts and strained relations with some municipalities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More recently, the BSA faced a civil rights investigation in New York and lawsuits in other states over the ban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kenneth Upton, a lawyer for the LGBT-rights group Lambda Legal, questioned whether the BSA's new policy to let church-sponsored units continue to exclude gay adults would be sustainable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There will be a period of time where they'll have some legal protection,\" Upton said. \"But that doesn't mean the lawsuits won't keep coming. ... They will become increasingly marginalized from the direction society is going.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like several other major youth organizations, the Boy Scouts have experienced a membership decline in recent decades. Current membership, according to the BSA, is about 2.4 million boys and about 1 million adults.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the 2013 decision to admit gay youth, some conservatives split from the BSA to form a new group, Trail Life USA, which has created its own ranks, badges and uniforms. The group claims a membership of more than 25,000 youths and adults.\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>\u003cbr>\nAssociated Press writer Brady McCombs in Salt Lake City contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/10619448/boy-scouts-open-leadership-ranks-to-gay-members","authors":["byline_news_10619448"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_6188"],"tags":["news_3812","news_5438"],"featImg":"news_10619449","label":"news_6944"},"news_109378":{"type":"posts","id":"news_109378","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"109378","score":null,"sort":[1378211412000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"boy-scouts-on-the-verge-of-losing-california-tax-breaks","title":"Boy Scouts on the Verge of Losing California Tax Breaks","publishDate":1378211412,"format":"aside","headTitle":"Boy Scouts on the Verge of Losing California Tax Breaks | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Beginning next year, the Boy Scouts of America will allow openly gay youth to join as members. But the Scouts’ policy change doesn’t go far enough for Democratic lawmakers in California. They’re on the verge of passing a bill that would strip tax breaks for the Boy Scouts and any other group that discriminates against gay, lesbian or transgender members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_87484\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 248px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-87484\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/01/Boy-Scouts-Salute-kenzo-tribouillard-afp-getty.jpg\" alt=\"(Kenzo Tribouillard/AFP/Getty Images)\" width=\"248\" height=\"140\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Photo by Kenzo Tribouillard/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The measure would be the latest in a long line of California bills strengthening gay rights. It has cleared the Senate and three Assembly committees, and now awaits a final Assembly vote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003c/strong>Ask 17-year-old Christopher Tennant what his favorite Boy Scouts experience is, and he’ll tell you about the 91-mile backpacking trip his troop took through New Mexico last year. The scouts got a chance to cook, shoot rifles and even climb up tall poles using ropes. “I was pretty terrified going into that,” Tennant said, remembering the experience. “I wasn’t sure if I was going to do it, as the rest of my troop was lining up. But I did it. I conquered my fear. And it was truly an amazing experience.”\u003c!--more-->\u003cstrong>\u003c/strong>Chris’ dad, Steve, went on the 2012 trip, too. It motivated him to take over one of the positions running Troop 57 in Moraga, in Contra Costa County. “I was like, wow, more boys deserve this opportunity. I could see the impact it had on them. It was transformational for me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But a week after Tennant became one of the troop’s committee chairs, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/08/us/california-gay-eagle-scout\">a nearby Scout troop denied 17-year-old Ryan Andresen Scouting’s highest honor, the Eagle badge\u003c/a>, and then kicked him out of the organization. Its reason: Ryan is gay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I found out about it a few days later,” said Tennant. “And wondered for myself, did I join the wrong group here? Because I can’t imagine being a part of a group that would do that to a boy. Especially a group that’s about helping turn boys into leaders.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201301100900\">Ryan Andresen’s ouster\u003c/a> made national news. The incident and its backlash helped push the organization to change its rules and allow gay youth to be members. But the national Scout policy still bars gay and lesbian leaders, affecting California troops that serve about 180,000 youths.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>New Policy Not Enough For Lara\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Sen. Ricardo Lara (D-Long Beach) said the new policy is, in his opinion, “based on this homophobic sentiment that somehow you’re an LGBT adult and somehow you pose a threat to children all of the sudden.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s why Lara pushed forward with \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB323&search_keywords=\">SB 323\u003c/a>, which strips away nonprofit sales and use of tax breaks for the Boy Scouts and any other youth group that discriminates against gays, lesbians and transgender members. Legislative staffers estimate the bill would cost California Boy Scout groups up to $250,000 in additional taxes. It would not, however, affect write-off eligibility for donations to Scout groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Tennants both support the measure, even though they clearly love and support Scouting. The same goes for another Contra Costa County scoutmaster, Wendell Baker, whose home office is filled with Scout activity calendars and posters and pictures from recent camping trips. They’re all hoping the financial pressure of new tax laws will push the Boy Scouts to revise their policies again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re basically telling kids that if you come out, you can’t be a camp counselor when you grow up,” said Baker. “And a lot of the kids in my troop want to be camp counselors. They love summer camp. But if you’re an adult the Boy Scouts won’t hire you. They won’t even let you be a member. That’s discrimination.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>“A distasteful way to do public policy”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>National Boy Scout leadership refused a request for an interview. In an emailed statement the organization said, “The State of California needs Scouting, which gives young people the opportunity to develop skills and take responsibility while inspiring a lifetime of character and service.” Former national Scout executive Rick Cronk \u003ca href=\"http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/11/local/la-me-boy-scouts-20130411\">testified against the measure at a Senate committee earlier this year\u003c/a>, warning that lawmakers were “talking about taxing revenue that is very important to the local Scout troop or pack.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Association of Nonprofits also opposes the measure. CEO Jan Masaoka said she’s anti-discrimination, but she doesn’t think California’s Franchise Tax Board should be put in the position of weighing in on whether nonprofits discriminate, as the bill requires. “That’s not something that’s really within their purview. We have other state agencies that do that successfully, and it should be there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Masaoka called the measure “a thinly veiled attack … on the Boy Scouts of America,” adding “it’s a distasteful way to do public policy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the bill changes tax laws, it needs two-thirds support to pass. Lara, the bill’s sponsor, admits that getting two-thirds of lawmakers to vote against an organization he calls “as American as apple pie” is tough – especially now that Democrats have temporarily lost their Assembly supermajority due to vacant seats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he’s confident it will get a vote — if not by the end of this fall’s legislative deadline, then early next year.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"California lawmakers are on the verge of passing bill that would punish groups for LGBT discrimination.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1685487212,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":19,"wordCount":953},"headData":{"title":"Boy Scouts on the Verge of Losing California Tax Breaks | KQED","description":"California lawmakers are on the verge of passing bill that would punish groups for LGBT discrimination.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Boy Scouts on the Verge of Losing California Tax Breaks","datePublished":"2013-09-03T12:30:12.000Z","dateModified":"2023-05-30T22:53:32.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"customPermalink":"2013/08/30/109378/","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/109378/boy-scouts-on-the-verge-of-losing-california-tax-breaks","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Beginning next year, the Boy Scouts of America will allow openly gay youth to join as members. But the Scouts’ policy change doesn’t go far enough for Democratic lawmakers in California. They’re on the verge of passing a bill that would strip tax breaks for the Boy Scouts and any other group that discriminates against gay, lesbian or transgender members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_87484\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 248px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-87484\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/01/Boy-Scouts-Salute-kenzo-tribouillard-afp-getty.jpg\" alt=\"(Kenzo Tribouillard/AFP/Getty Images)\" width=\"248\" height=\"140\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Photo by Kenzo Tribouillard/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The measure would be the latest in a long line of California bills strengthening gay rights. It has cleared the Senate and three Assembly committees, and now awaits a final Assembly vote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003c/strong>Ask 17-year-old Christopher Tennant what his favorite Boy Scouts experience is, and he’ll tell you about the 91-mile backpacking trip his troop took through New Mexico last year. The scouts got a chance to cook, shoot rifles and even climb up tall poles using ropes. “I was pretty terrified going into that,” Tennant said, remembering the experience. “I wasn’t sure if I was going to do it, as the rest of my troop was lining up. But I did it. I conquered my fear. And it was truly an amazing experience.”\u003c!--more-->\u003cstrong>\u003c/strong>Chris’ dad, Steve, went on the 2012 trip, too. It motivated him to take over one of the positions running Troop 57 in Moraga, in Contra Costa County. “I was like, wow, more boys deserve this opportunity. I could see the impact it had on them. It was transformational for me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But a week after Tennant became one of the troop’s committee chairs, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/08/us/california-gay-eagle-scout\">a nearby Scout troop denied 17-year-old Ryan Andresen Scouting’s highest honor, the Eagle badge\u003c/a>, and then kicked him out of the organization. Its reason: Ryan is gay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I found out about it a few days later,” said Tennant. “And wondered for myself, did I join the wrong group here? Because I can’t imagine being a part of a group that would do that to a boy. Especially a group that’s about helping turn boys into leaders.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201301100900\">Ryan Andresen’s ouster\u003c/a> made national news. The incident and its backlash helped push the organization to change its rules and allow gay youth to be members. But the national Scout policy still bars gay and lesbian leaders, affecting California troops that serve about 180,000 youths.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>New Policy Not Enough For Lara\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Sen. Ricardo Lara (D-Long Beach) said the new policy is, in his opinion, “based on this homophobic sentiment that somehow you’re an LGBT adult and somehow you pose a threat to children all of the sudden.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s why Lara pushed forward with \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB323&search_keywords=\">SB 323\u003c/a>, which strips away nonprofit sales and use of tax breaks for the Boy Scouts and any other youth group that discriminates against gays, lesbians and transgender members. Legislative staffers estimate the bill would cost California Boy Scout groups up to $250,000 in additional taxes. It would not, however, affect write-off eligibility for donations to Scout groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Tennants both support the measure, even though they clearly love and support Scouting. The same goes for another Contra Costa County scoutmaster, Wendell Baker, whose home office is filled with Scout activity calendars and posters and pictures from recent camping trips. They’re all hoping the financial pressure of new tax laws will push the Boy Scouts to revise their policies again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re basically telling kids that if you come out, you can’t be a camp counselor when you grow up,” said Baker. “And a lot of the kids in my troop want to be camp counselors. They love summer camp. But if you’re an adult the Boy Scouts won’t hire you. They won’t even let you be a member. That’s discrimination.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>“A distasteful way to do public policy”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>National Boy Scout leadership refused a request for an interview. In an emailed statement the organization said, “The State of California needs Scouting, which gives young people the opportunity to develop skills and take responsibility while inspiring a lifetime of character and service.” Former national Scout executive Rick Cronk \u003ca href=\"http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/11/local/la-me-boy-scouts-20130411\">testified against the measure at a Senate committee earlier this year\u003c/a>, warning that lawmakers were “talking about taxing revenue that is very important to the local Scout troop or pack.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Association of Nonprofits also opposes the measure. CEO Jan Masaoka said she’s anti-discrimination, but she doesn’t think California’s Franchise Tax Board should be put in the position of weighing in on whether nonprofits discriminate, as the bill requires. “That’s not something that’s really within their purview. We have other state agencies that do that successfully, and it should be there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Masaoka called the measure “a thinly veiled attack … on the Boy Scouts of America,” adding “it’s a distasteful way to do public policy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the bill changes tax laws, it needs two-thirds support to pass. Lara, the bill’s sponsor, admits that getting two-thirds of lawmakers to vote against an organization he calls “as American as apple pie” is tough – especially now that Democrats have temporarily lost their Assembly supermajority due to vacant seats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he’s confident it will get a vote — if not by the end of this fall’s legislative deadline, then early next year.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/109378/boy-scouts-on-the-verge-of-losing-california-tax-breaks","authors":["256"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_3812","news_82"],"featImg":"news_87484","label":"news_6944"},"news_97995":{"type":"posts","id":"news_97995","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"97995","score":null,"sort":[1369347818000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"boy-scouts-vote-to-accept-gay-boys","title":"Boy Scouts Vote to Accept Gay Boys","publishDate":1369347818,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>GRAPEVINE, Texas (AP) — The Boy Scouts have approved a plan to accept openly gay boys as Scouts but maintain a ban on gay adult leaders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_98002\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 248px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2013/05/23/boy-scouts-votes-to-accept-gay-boys/boy-scouts-salute-kenzo-tribouillard-afp-getty-2/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-98002\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-98002\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/05/Boy-Scouts-Salute-kenzo-tribouillard-afp-getty.jpg\" alt=\"(Kenzo Tribouillard/AFP/Getty Images)\" width=\"248\" height=\"140\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Kenzo Tribouillard/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Casting ballots were about 1,400 voting members of The Boy Scouts of America's National Council who were attending their annual meeting at a conference center not far from BSA headquarters in suburban Dallas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The proposal drafted by the BSA's governing executive committee says boys can no longer be excluded from Scouting solely on the basis of sexual orientation. A longstanding ban on gay adult leaders will remain in place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Debates over the issue may continue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some conservative churches that sponsor Scout units want to continue excluding gay youths, and in some cases threatened to leave the BSA if the ban were lifted.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More liberal Scout leaders — while supporting the proposal to accept gay youth — have made clear they want the ban on gay adults lifted as well. If the full no-gays policy is maintained, some units in liberal areas may consider either leaving the Scouts or openly defying the ban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The BSA could take a hit financially. Many Scout units in conservative areas fear their local donors will stop giving with the ban on gay youth lifted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In January, the BSA executive committee suggested a plan to give sponsors of local Scout units the option of admitting gays as both youth members and adult leaders or continuing to exclude them. However, the plan won little praise, and the BSA changed course after assessing responses to surveys sent out starting in February to members of the Scouting community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the more than 200,000 leaders, parents and youth members who responded, 61 percent supported the current policy of excluding gays, while 34 percent opposed it. However, most parents of young Scouts, as while as youth members themselves, opposed the ban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the weeks leading up to the vote, and on Wednesday as National Council members arrived in Grapevine, advocacy groups on both sides of the debate organized news conferences, photo opportunities and forums to make their case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two conservative groups opposed to any easing of the ban — the Family Research Council and OnMyHonor.net — placed an ad Thursday in the Dallas Morning News warning that lifting the ban on gay youth would trigger lawsuits that could force the BSA to admit gay adults as well as youth. It said lifting the ban on gay boys could drive out as many as 400,000 of the Scouts' youth members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The BSA's overall \"traditional youth membership\" — Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts and Venturers — is now about 2.6 million, compared with more than 4 million in peak years of the past. It also has about 1 million adult leaders and volunteers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the more than 100,000 Scouting units in the U.S., 70 percent are chartered by religious institutions. Those include liberal churches opposed to any ban on gays, but some of the largest sponsors are relatively conservative denominations that have previously supported the broad ban — notably the Roman Catholic Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Southern Baptist churches.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced in April that it was satisfied with new proposal, and the National Catholic Committee on Scouting has not opposed it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, 50 leaders of other conservative religious groups have issued a statement imploring the National Council to retain the full ban, warning that easing it \"would open the Scouts to a wide range of open sexual expressions.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The signatories included the leaders of the Assemblies of God, the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The BSA, which celebrated its 100th anniversary in 2010, has long excluded both gays and atheists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Protests over the no-gays policy gained momentum in 2000, when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the BSA's right to exclude gays. Scout units lost sponsorships by public schools and other entities that adhered to nondiscrimination policies, and several local Scout councils made public their displeasure with the policy.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1369347951,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":20,"wordCount":699},"headData":{"title":"Boy Scouts Vote to Accept Gay Boys | KQED","description":"GRAPEVINE, Texas (AP) — The Boy Scouts have approved a plan to accept openly gay boys as Scouts but maintain a ban on gay adult leaders. 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