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Ed Hernandez authored a series of bills making it possible for California optometrists, pharmacists and nurse-practitioners to \u003ca href=\"http://sd24.senate.ca.gov/news/2013-03-13-senator-hernandez-introduces-legislation-bridge-provider-gap\">expand the range of medical services they provide\u003c/a>. It would have allowed them to administer vaccines, among other things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We have a huge capacity issue in the state of California,” the Los Angeles-area Democrat said. “And this is even pre-Affordable Care Act -- only one-third of the counties meet the national average of primary-care physician-to-patient ratio.” He argued that giving more authority to optometrists and other professions would help more people get the treatment they need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hernandez would know — he’s a practicing optometrist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said there’s nothing wrong with putting forward a bill that would expand the scope of his business. And according to California’s conflict-of-interest laws, he’s absolutely right. The way the regulations are written, California lawmakers are free to vote on, or even write, measures that affect the fields in which they work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hernandez pointed out that he’s taken votes that hurt his practice, like a 2011 measure cutting Medi-Cal payments to providers. “My wife, when I told her about it, she said, ‘Well, why’d you do that? You just cut our pay by 10 percent.’ I said, 'Well, we had to. We had to balance the budget.' ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>No One's Declaring Conflicts\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hernandez and his optometry practice are just one example of a broad trend within California’s Legislature. The Assembly and Senate are filled with practicing lawyers, real estate agents and business executives of various sorts. Four in 10 legislators bring in some sort of outside income, according to disclosure forms.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'Public officials are making decisions affecting millions, and sometimes billions, of dollars. We want to make sure they don’t have a personal stake different from the stake of the public in making these decisions.'\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>And California’s law says they have a conflict of interest only if they vote on a measure that directly affects their own company or firm. There’s no problem if the bill helps, say, every other optometrist, too. That being the case, it’s been years since a legislator followed the ethics law’s protocols and formally declared a conflict. The Assembly clerk and Senate secretary’s offices can’t remember the last time it happened.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the weeks since three Democrats were suspended from the Senate for legal problems, ethics have been front and center in Sacramento. Scores of new bills are being proposed, and legislative staffers have even been going through extra ethics training. But reining in outside income doesn’t appear to be on the reform agenda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s mostly because California’s conflict-of-interest guidelines \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncsl.org/research/ethics/to-vote-or-not-to-vote.aspx\">are on par with other states\u003c/a>. Other full-time legislatures \u003ca href=\"http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/03/18/12313/conflicts-interest-run-rampant-state-legislatures\">allow outside income, too\u003c/a>. And California lawmakers need to disclose all their outside income each year, in more detail than many states require.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob Stern co-authored California’s Political Reform Act and worked as the top lawyer at the Fair Political Practices Commission. He said there’s a reason why the state requires officials to provide that information. “Public officials are making decisions affecting millions — and sometimes billions — of dollars. And we want to make sure that they don’t have a personal stake different from the stake of the public in making these decisions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/144680316&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_artwork=true\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stern said he’s satisfied with California’s current laws, but he'd like to see the state go a step further. He said the Legislature should follow the lead of Congress and the Los Angeles City Council, and ban members from holding any outside jobs. “Basically raise the pay to a pay that is commensurate to what they’re doing in office. And say, 'That’s it,' ” he said. “You have to be working full time for the public, and you cannot have any outside earned income.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These second jobs have led to questions before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the early 1990s, \u003ca href=\"http://articles.latimes.com/1991-04-01/news/mn-1225_1_willie-brown/2\">Assembly Speaker Willie Brown was criticized for earning millions of dollars in private law practice\u003c/a> and sometimes appointing clients to state boards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The top Democrat in the Senate today has worked for law firms, too. But President pro Tem Darrell Steinberg said he has bent over backwards to avoid conflicts, to the detriment of his practice. “It was very, very difficult because of the time demands on the job that I have. And also, you know, I’m very sensitive to conflicts. And the notion of marketing and that sort of thing, when you’re an elected official, is just very difficult to do.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The issue of potential conflicts goes beyond legislators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jul/20/local/me-disclosure20\">Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger came under fire\u003c/a> for accepting a magazine consulting gig in 2005. That led to a bill to end these side jobs for statewide officeholders, but the legislation never went anywhere. In fact, Treasurer Bill Lockyer has done outside legal work for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reform Groups Have Other Priorities\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So how much of a problem is this? Most elected officials aren’t actually clocking in at second jobs — they’re earning income from businesses in which they have longtime ownership stakes. And lawmakers argue their outside jobs give them valuable perspective.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There isn’t exactly a groundswell to change the current set-up. Although Bob Stern wants to eliminate outside jobs, he pointed out there are larger problems to fix first.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are only a handful, or small percentage, of legislators who earn outside income that could be conflicts,” said Stern. “Almost every legislator earns campaign money from someone who wants something from government. And that, in my mind, is the bigger conflict.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So even if recent scandals do lead to ethics reforms in state government, don’t expect this issue to be on the agenda.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"State conflict-of-interest law allows legislators to vote on measures affecting the fields they work in.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1397513046,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1022},"headData":{"title":"Four in 10 California Lawmakers Get Outside Income | KQED","description":"State conflict-of-interest law allows legislators to vote on measures affecting the fields they work in.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Four in 10 California Lawmakers Get Outside Income","datePublished":"2014-04-14T12:50:45.000Z","dateModified":"2014-04-14T22:04:06.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"132346 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=132346","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/04/14/four-in-10-california-lawmakers-get-outside-income/","disqusTitle":"Four in 10 California Lawmakers Get Outside Income","customPermalink":"2014/04/11/4-in-10-california-lawmakers-take-in-outside-income/","path":"/news/132346/four-in-10-california-lawmakers-get-outside-income","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_132379\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 384px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/04/RS1369_IMG_1902-lpr.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-132379\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/04/RS1369_IMG_1902-lpr-640x480.jpg\" alt=\"(Craig Miller/KQED)\" width=\"384\" height=\"288\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Craig Miller/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Last year, state Sen. 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And according to California’s conflict-of-interest laws, he’s absolutely right. The way the regulations are written, California lawmakers are free to vote on, or even write, measures that affect the fields in which they work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hernandez pointed out that he’s taken votes that hurt his practice, like a 2011 measure cutting Medi-Cal payments to providers. “My wife, when I told her about it, she said, ‘Well, why’d you do that? You just cut our pay by 10 percent.’ I said, 'Well, we had to. We had to balance the budget.' ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>No One's Declaring Conflicts\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hernandez and his optometry practice are just one example of a broad trend within California’s Legislature. The Assembly and Senate are filled with practicing lawyers, real estate agents and business executives of various sorts. Four in 10 legislators bring in some sort of outside income, according to disclosure forms.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'Public officials are making decisions affecting millions, and sometimes billions, of dollars. We want to make sure they don’t have a personal stake different from the stake of the public in making these decisions.'\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>And California’s law says they have a conflict of interest only if they vote on a measure that directly affects their own company or firm. There’s no problem if the bill helps, say, every other optometrist, too. That being the case, it’s been years since a legislator followed the ethics law’s protocols and formally declared a conflict. The Assembly clerk and Senate secretary’s offices can’t remember the last time it happened.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the weeks since three Democrats were suspended from the Senate for legal problems, ethics have been front and center in Sacramento. Scores of new bills are being proposed, and legislative staffers have even been going through extra ethics training. But reining in outside income doesn’t appear to be on the reform agenda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s mostly because California’s conflict-of-interest guidelines \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncsl.org/research/ethics/to-vote-or-not-to-vote.aspx\">are on par with other states\u003c/a>. Other full-time legislatures \u003ca href=\"http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/03/18/12313/conflicts-interest-run-rampant-state-legislatures\">allow outside income, too\u003c/a>. And California lawmakers need to disclose all their outside income each year, in more detail than many states require.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob Stern co-authored California’s Political Reform Act and worked as the top lawyer at the Fair Political Practices Commission. He said there’s a reason why the state requires officials to provide that information. “Public officials are making decisions affecting millions — and sometimes billions — of dollars. And we want to make sure that they don’t have a personal stake different from the stake of the public in making these decisions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/144680316&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_artwork=true\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stern said he’s satisfied with California’s current laws, but he'd like to see the state go a step further. He said the Legislature should follow the lead of Congress and the Los Angeles City Council, and ban members from holding any outside jobs. “Basically raise the pay to a pay that is commensurate to what they’re doing in office. And say, 'That’s it,' ” he said. “You have to be working full time for the public, and you cannot have any outside earned income.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These second jobs have led to questions before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the early 1990s, \u003ca href=\"http://articles.latimes.com/1991-04-01/news/mn-1225_1_willie-brown/2\">Assembly Speaker Willie Brown was criticized for earning millions of dollars in private law practice\u003c/a> and sometimes appointing clients to state boards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The top Democrat in the Senate today has worked for law firms, too. But President pro Tem Darrell Steinberg said he has bent over backwards to avoid conflicts, to the detriment of his practice. “It was very, very difficult because of the time demands on the job that I have. And also, you know, I’m very sensitive to conflicts. And the notion of marketing and that sort of thing, when you’re an elected official, is just very difficult to do.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The issue of potential conflicts goes beyond legislators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jul/20/local/me-disclosure20\">Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger came under fire\u003c/a> for accepting a magazine consulting gig in 2005. That led to a bill to end these side jobs for statewide officeholders, but the legislation never went anywhere. In fact, Treasurer Bill Lockyer has done outside legal work for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reform Groups Have Other Priorities\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So how much of a problem is this? Most elected officials aren’t actually clocking in at second jobs — they’re earning income from businesses in which they have longtime ownership stakes. And lawmakers argue their outside jobs give them valuable perspective.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There isn’t exactly a groundswell to change the current set-up. Although Bob Stern wants to eliminate outside jobs, he pointed out there are larger problems to fix first.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are only a handful, or small percentage, of legislators who earn outside income that could be conflicts,” said Stern. “Almost every legislator earns campaign money from someone who wants something from government. And that, in my mind, is the bigger conflict.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So even if recent scandals do lead to ethics reforms in state government, don’t expect this issue to be on the agenda.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/132346/four-in-10-california-lawmakers-get-outside-income","authors":["256"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_13"],"tags":["news_65","news_1309","news_2704","news_596","news_5969","news_152","news_125"],"featImg":"news_132379","label":"news_6944"},"news_98491":{"type":"posts","id":"news_98491","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"98491","score":null,"sort":[1370281806000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-treasurer-bill-lockyer-retiring-from-politics","title":"California Treasurer Bill Lockyer Retiring From Politics","publishDate":1370281806,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — State Treasurer Bill Lockyer, a leading California Democrat for decades, announced Monday that he will retire from elected office when his term expires in early 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lockyer's announcement means he won't run for controller next year as planned. Instead, the 72-year-old politician said he's looking forward to starting a new phase of his life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's tough to leave a career I have loved,\" he said in a statement. \"It's been an exciting, fulfilling and rewarding 45 years. I've never felt anything but honored and privileged to serve my community and this state. And I cherish the people I've worked with and the friends I've made along the way. But it's time to make the break and explore other opportunities.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lockyer, who has held an elected position since 1968, previously served as attorney general and Senate president pro tem in the Legislature. He began his political career on the San Leandro Unified School District board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said his decision was not influenced by his wife, Nadia Lockyer, who resigned as an Alameda County supervisor amid a series of public substance abuse and relationship struggles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lockyer said he'll remain active in public policy but doesn't know in what capacity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It marks the first departure from a group of aging top-tier Democrats, including 75-year-old Gov. Jerry Brown. However, Lockyer's retirement announcement opens opportunities for younger Democratic hopefuls.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1370282080,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":9,"wordCount":247},"headData":{"title":"California Treasurer Bill Lockyer Retiring From Politics | KQED","description":"SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — State Treasurer Bill Lockyer, a leading California Democrat for decades, announced Monday that he will retire from elected office when his term expires in early 2015. Lockyer's announcement means he won't run for controller next year as planned. 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(AP) — State Treasurer Bill Lockyer, a leading California Democrat for decades, announced Monday that he will retire from elected office when his term expires in early 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lockyer's announcement means he won't run for controller next year as planned. Instead, the 72-year-old politician said he's looking forward to starting a new phase of his life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's tough to leave a career I have loved,\" he said in a statement. \"It's been an exciting, fulfilling and rewarding 45 years. I've never felt anything but honored and privileged to serve my community and this state. And I cherish the people I've worked with and the friends I've made along the way. But it's time to make the break and explore other opportunities.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lockyer, who has held an elected position since 1968, previously served as attorney general and Senate president pro tem in the Legislature. He began his political career on the San Leandro Unified School District board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said his decision was not influenced by his wife, Nadia Lockyer, who resigned as an Alameda County supervisor amid a series of public substance abuse and relationship struggles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lockyer said he'll remain active in public policy but doesn't know in what capacity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It marks the first departure from a group of aging top-tier Democrats, including 75-year-old Gov. Jerry Brown. However, Lockyer's retirement announcement opens opportunities for younger Democratic hopefuls.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/98491/california-treasurer-bill-lockyer-retiring-from-politics","authors":["237"],"programs":["news_6944"],"tags":["news_1309","news_152"],"label":"news_6944"},"news_34161":{"type":"posts","id":"news_34161","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"34161","score":null,"sort":[1310919774000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"video-interview-with-state-treasurer-bill-lockyer-on-fallout-for-california-if-us-defaults-on-its-debt","title":"Video: Interview With State Treasurer Bill Lockyer on Fallout for California if US Defaults on Its Debt","publishDate":1310919774,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>As you no doubt have heard by now, there's a little \u003ca href=\"http://www.google.com/search?q=debt+ceiling\">to-do\u003c/a> in Washington over the issue of raising the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt#Debt_ceiling\">debt ceiling\u003c/a>, the amount of money the U.S. can borrow through the selling of treasury bonds. The limit is set by Congress, and till now has been a rather routine affair, for the most part. But the current Republican caucus is balking at the automatic hike, and according to the Treasury Dept, come August the U.S. could actually start defaulting on its ample debt, an unprecedented occurrence that many analysts say would result in a global financial cataclysm. Here's just one take from the \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-wealth/2011/07/15/debt-ceiling-dumber-no-safe-haven-for-your-money/\">Reuters Money blog\u003c/a> on Friday:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>A default on U.S. debt will make the 2008 debacle look like a Simpson’s episode. Interest rates will soar through the roof. Everything from mortgage rates to adjustable credit card financing will skyrocket. Payrolls may be imperiled along with Social Security and Medicare payments. Think economic crash and burn — in a big way. If the credit rating of U.S. debt is downgraded from AAA, that will automatically signal to the global bond market that investors should demand higher yields for taking more risk. Standard & Poor’s has put the U.S. on its ominous “CreditWatch” status and will downgrade unless a debt deal is struck soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Money moves exponentially faster than politics these days. If bond managers get even a whiff of actual default, they will move their funds out of U.S. Treasuries at the speed of light. That tsunami may devalue anything measured in dollars, including U.S. stocks; corporations would then fire even more people and halt capital investment. Unemployment would hit Depression-era levels. Americans would wistfully recall the days of nine percent joblessness.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>On Friday, State Treasurer Bill Lockyer talked to \"\u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/thisweek/\">This Week in Northern California\u003c/a>\" host Belva Davis about the consequences for California should the ceiling not be raised, and the steps the state was taking to prepare. Lockyer said California is preparing to borrow as much as $5 billion in short-term loans, as education and health care programs that depend on federal funds could be severely jeopardized by a federal loan default. Watch the \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/thisweek/watch/archive/241111/a\">\u003cstrong>video\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> below: \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe width=\"480\" height=\"303\" src=\"http://www.youtube.com/embed/XGP1PaIU6bQ\" frameborder=\"0\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1310920901,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":7,"wordCount":379},"headData":{"title":"Video: Interview With State Treasurer Bill Lockyer on Fallout for California if US Defaults on Its Debt | KQED","description":"As you no doubt have heard by now, there's a little to-do in Washington over the issue of raising the debt ceiling, the amount of money the U.S. can borrow through the selling of treasury bonds. 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The limit is set by Congress, and till now has been a rather routine affair, for the most part. But the current Republican caucus is balking at the automatic hike, and according to the Treasury Dept, come August the U.S. could actually start defaulting on its ample debt, an unprecedented occurrence that many analysts say would result in a global financial cataclysm. Here's just one take from the \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-wealth/2011/07/15/debt-ceiling-dumber-no-safe-haven-for-your-money/\">Reuters Money blog\u003c/a> on Friday:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>A default on U.S. debt will make the 2008 debacle look like a Simpson’s episode. Interest rates will soar through the roof. Everything from mortgage rates to adjustable credit card financing will skyrocket. Payrolls may be imperiled along with Social Security and Medicare payments. Think economic crash and burn — in a big way. 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Americans would wistfully recall the days of nine percent joblessness.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>On Friday, State Treasurer Bill Lockyer talked to \"\u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/thisweek/\">This Week in Northern California\u003c/a>\" host Belva Davis about the consequences for California should the ceiling not be raised, and the steps the state was taking to prepare. Lockyer said California is preparing to borrow as much as $5 billion in short-term loans, as education and health care programs that depend on federal funds could be severely jeopardized by a federal loan default. 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You know, the 2003 \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gubernatorial_recall_election,_2003\">special election \u003c/a> that asked voters two questions: \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>1) Shall Gray Davis be recalled (removed) from the office of Governor?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>2) Candidates to succeed Gray Davis as Governor if he is recalled: \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which was followed by a list of candidates that included Arnold Schwarzennegger, who managed to fend off the likes of Larry Flynt, Arianna Huffington, and \u003ca href=\"http://www.cafepress.com/tshirtstop.7122475\">Gary Coleman\u003c/a>, among the list of \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sample_ballot_for_CA_recall.png\">134 other hopefuls\u003c/a>, to take the prize. (If you can call winning the governorship of this state a prize.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anyhoo, after the circus left town, then State Attorney General Bill Lockyer, a Democrat, caused a stir when he publicly stated at an election post-mortem that he had voted against the recall on the first question, but had voted for Arnold on the second. Schwarzennegger represented \"hope, change, reform, opportunity, upbeat problem solving,\" Lockyer was quoted as saying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yesterday at the Sacramento Press Club, our bureau chief John Myers asked an eight-years-later follow-up question to Lockyer's statement:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"At the post-mortem after the recall campaign, you shocked a few people. You said you voted against the recall but you voted for Schwarzennegger. In retrospect, (do) you stick with that vote, (or) do you regret that vote? \u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lockyer began his answer with this: \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Well, I sure shouldn't have said it.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Listen to the rest of his answer below; an edited transcript follows: \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio:http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/07/lockyeronarnold.mp3|titles=lockyeronarnold]\u003cstrong>Bill Lockyer on why he voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2003\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>The problem was the alternative. You remember the list of (100 or whatever)that number was of people running for gov. id idn't see a single person on tha tlist who could competently lead and govern the state of calif. that was praticularly true of some relatively well-known people on that list. And so for me it was kind of a choice of, like voters at the time, we're gambling, we're taking a risk that this new fresh voice is really going to bring people together and wer'e going to have a less partisan opportunity to make advancements in the state. Well , we were all wrong about wehether we oucld get that. we didn't get that. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mostly the Republicans would be the ones that would be grumpy. The Democrats, it's sort of a mixed bag, some like it, some don't. They liked the environment or they didn't like labor or budget. So...it was the choice at the time, and I guess I should have just abstained entirely and said none of them, just stick with Gray.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1310754110,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":14,"wordCount":457},"headData":{"title":"Audio: Democratic Treasurer Bill Lockyer on Why He Voted for Arnold Schwarzennegger | KQED","description":"Recall the recall for a moment, if you would. 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You know, the 2003 \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gubernatorial_recall_election,_2003\">special election \u003c/a> that asked voters two questions: \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>1) Shall Gray Davis be recalled (removed) from the office of Governor?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>2) Candidates to succeed Gray Davis as Governor if he is recalled: \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which was followed by a list of candidates that included Arnold Schwarzennegger, who managed to fend off the likes of Larry Flynt, Arianna Huffington, and \u003ca href=\"http://www.cafepress.com/tshirtstop.7122475\">Gary Coleman\u003c/a>, among the list of \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sample_ballot_for_CA_recall.png\">134 other hopefuls\u003c/a>, to take the prize. (If you can call winning the governorship of this state a prize.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anyhoo, after the circus left town, then State Attorney General Bill Lockyer, a Democrat, caused a stir when he publicly stated at an election post-mortem that he had voted against the recall on the first question, but had voted for Arnold on the second. Schwarzennegger represented \"hope, change, reform, opportunity, upbeat problem solving,\" Lockyer was quoted as saying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yesterday at the Sacramento Press Club, our bureau chief John Myers asked an eight-years-later follow-up question to Lockyer's statement:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"At the post-mortem after the recall campaign, you shocked a few people. 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