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A New Bill Would Change That","publishDate":1617264026,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>A state Senate bill that would require all of California's quarter million contractors to carry workers' compensation insurance is moving ahead with strong support from both parties — and backing from regulators, industry and workers groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State officials and industry leaders say the bill is aimed at closing a loophole in state law. They say thousands of companies lie to regulators by telling them they do not employ anyone when they actually do. That allows them to avoid buying insurance that's crucial to helping workers who get injured on the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The bill will greatly curb the underground economy,\" Skip Daum, a lobbyist for the the American Subcontractors Association of California, told lawmakers this month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, there are more than 230,000 contractors with active licenses in California, according to the agency that regulates the state's construction industry. The Contractors State License Board says more than half of those firms — 53% — say they are exempt from carrying insurance because they have no employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Many contractors are falsely making that claim,\" state Sen. Bill Dodd, D-Napa, the bill's author, said at a committee hearing in early March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many contractors who claim to be exempt actually have employees, state regulators say. When those workers are injured or killed on the job, that exemption leaves them and their families unprotected.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This drives up the cost of workers' compensation insurance for the good actors and puts workers at risk,\" Dodd said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those abuses are at the heart of a series of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11780384/employer-in-key-wildfire-gig-economy-trial-from-soberanes-blaze-found-guilty\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">KQED stories\u003c/a> on the deaths of bulldozer operators and water tender drivers employed by contractors hired by Cal Fire to help fight wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among those cases were the deaths of three heavy equipment operators killed during wildfires in 2016, 2017 and 2018. After their deaths, state officials learned that the contractors who sent them to fight the fires lacked workers' comp insurance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Veena Dubal, professor, UC Hastings College of the Law\"]'Failure to carry workers' compensation has had devastating impacts for workers (and their families) who are injured on the job.'[/pullquote]Every year the Contractors State License Board issues hundreds of stop-work orders to companies that are found to have employees and an workers' compensation exemption on file with the agency, according to Mike Jamnetski, the board's chief of legislation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that disciplinary action \"has not moved the proverbial needle,\" Jamnetski said at the March 8 hearing before the Senate Business, Professions and Economic Development Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The contractors board does not have enough staff to audit the 123,000 contractors who claim they do not employ people, Jamnetski said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd's proposal, \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB216\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Senate Bill 216\u003c/a>, is sponsored by the state contractors board. It would require all concrete, heating, air conditioning and tree service contractors to buy workers' comp right away. By 2025, all licensed contractors in California would be required to purchase coverage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill faces no apparent opposition in the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The committee passed the bill in a 14-0 vote after members of nine associations representing contractor groups, unions and lawyers who handle workers' comp cases voiced support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11780384,news_11405049,news_11367902 label='Related Coverage']Daum, the lobbyist with the subcontractors association, said contractors who try to hide the fact they have employees and neglect their responsibility to get workers' comp have an unfair advantage over those who follow the rules: Without paying for insurance, their costs are lower, allowing them to make lower bids on project contracts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill does not require a set level of workers' comp coverage. Currently, about half of California's construction companies that have the benefit have chosen what are called minimum policies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many contractors who have not claimed employees in the past are expected to choose such plans, which range from $500 to $5,000 a year, according to the State Compensation Insurance Fund, one of California's leading providers of the benefit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cost range depends on the industry in which the contractor works, how many people they employ and their claims history, the fund's chief risk officer, Ken Van Laar, said in an email.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As we've seen, failure to carry workers' compensation has had devastating impacts for workers (and their families) who are injured on the job,\" said Veena Dubal, a UC Hastings College of the Law professor specializing in employment law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the bill passes and contractors do not get workers' comp, the state could suspend their license and they could be charged with a misdemeanor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dubal raised concerns that not complying with the potential new rules could lead to criminal prosecution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think it's really troubling,\" Dubal said. \"Addressing workplace violations through criminal law is a trend that, I'm afraid, will be used to disproportionately impact small business, racial minorities and immigrant contractors.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response to Dubal's concerns, Natalie Watmore, a CSLB representative, noted that the bill does not change the existing criminal penalties for contractors who lack workers' comp. It just expands the existing regulations to more industries and cuts out exemptions for companies that do not claim employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Watmore said the agency does not expect to refer a significant number of cases for criminal enforcement. She emphasized that the proposed regulations apply to all contractors regardless of their background.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SB 216 was recently placed in the Senate Committee on Appropriations' suspense file and is expected to face its next hearing in late May.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If it passes, state officials say they plan to make sure contractors are aware of the new rules by posting them on a CSLB \u003ca href=\"https://www.cslb.ca.gov/Resources/Newsletters/winter-2021-CLC.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">newsletter\u003c/a>, industry \u003ca href=\"https://www.cslb.ca.gov/media_room/industry_bulletins/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">bulletins\u003c/a>, social media posts and \u003ca href=\"https://www.cslb.ca.gov/Media_Room/consumer_education/licensing_workshops.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">workshops\u003c/a> for firms to get contractors' licenses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A new state Senate bill would close a loophole that has allowed thousands of contractors to avoid buying insurance to cover workers injured or killed on the job.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1617297894,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":948},"headData":{"title":"California Contractors Are Abusing Workers' Comp Rules. 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That allows them to avoid buying insurance that's crucial to helping workers who get injured on the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The bill will greatly curb the underground economy,\" Skip Daum, a lobbyist for the the American Subcontractors Association of California, told lawmakers this month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, there are more than 230,000 contractors with active licenses in California, according to the agency that regulates the state's construction industry. The Contractors State License Board says more than half of those firms — 53% — say they are exempt from carrying insurance because they have no employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Many contractors are falsely making that claim,\" state Sen. Bill Dodd, D-Napa, the bill's author, said at a committee hearing in early March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many contractors who claim to be exempt actually have employees, state regulators say. When those workers are injured or killed on the job, that exemption leaves them and their families unprotected.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This drives up the cost of workers' compensation insurance for the good actors and puts workers at risk,\" Dodd said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those abuses are at the heart of a series of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11780384/employer-in-key-wildfire-gig-economy-trial-from-soberanes-blaze-found-guilty\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">KQED stories\u003c/a> on the deaths of bulldozer operators and water tender drivers employed by contractors hired by Cal Fire to help fight wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among those cases were the deaths of three heavy equipment operators killed during wildfires in 2016, 2017 and 2018. After their deaths, state officials learned that the contractors who sent them to fight the fires lacked workers' comp insurance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Failure to carry workers' compensation has had devastating impacts for workers (and their families) who are injured on the job.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Veena Dubal, professor, UC Hastings College of the Law","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Every year the Contractors State License Board issues hundreds of stop-work orders to companies that are found to have employees and an workers' compensation exemption on file with the agency, according to Mike Jamnetski, the board's chief of legislation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that disciplinary action \"has not moved the proverbial needle,\" Jamnetski said at the March 8 hearing before the Senate Business, Professions and Economic Development Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The contractors board does not have enough staff to audit the 123,000 contractors who claim they do not employ people, Jamnetski said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd's proposal, \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB216\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Senate Bill 216\u003c/a>, is sponsored by the state contractors board. It would require all concrete, heating, air conditioning and tree service contractors to buy workers' comp right away. By 2025, all licensed contractors in California would be required to purchase coverage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill faces no apparent opposition in the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The committee passed the bill in a 14-0 vote after members of nine associations representing contractor groups, unions and lawyers who handle workers' comp cases voiced support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11780384,news_11405049,news_11367902","label":"Related Coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Daum, the lobbyist with the subcontractors association, said contractors who try to hide the fact they have employees and neglect their responsibility to get workers' comp have an unfair advantage over those who follow the rules: Without paying for insurance, their costs are lower, allowing them to make lower bids on project contracts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill does not require a set level of workers' comp coverage. Currently, about half of California's construction companies that have the benefit have chosen what are called minimum policies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many contractors who have not claimed employees in the past are expected to choose such plans, which range from $500 to $5,000 a year, according to the State Compensation Insurance Fund, one of California's leading providers of the benefit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cost range depends on the industry in which the contractor works, how many people they employ and their claims history, the fund's chief risk officer, Ken Van Laar, said in an email.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As we've seen, failure to carry workers' compensation has had devastating impacts for workers (and their families) who are injured on the job,\" said Veena Dubal, a UC Hastings College of the Law professor specializing in employment law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the bill passes and contractors do not get workers' comp, the state could suspend their license and they could be charged with a misdemeanor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dubal raised concerns that not complying with the potential new rules could lead to criminal prosecution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think it's really troubling,\" Dubal said. \"Addressing workplace violations through criminal law is a trend that, I'm afraid, will be used to disproportionately impact small business, racial minorities and immigrant contractors.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response to Dubal's concerns, Natalie Watmore, a CSLB representative, noted that the bill does not change the existing criminal penalties for contractors who lack workers' comp. It just expands the existing regulations to more industries and cuts out exemptions for companies that do not claim employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Watmore said the agency does not expect to refer a significant number of cases for criminal enforcement. She emphasized that the proposed regulations apply to all contractors regardless of their background.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SB 216 was recently placed in the Senate Committee on Appropriations' suspense file and is expected to face its next hearing in late May.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If it passes, state officials say they plan to make sure contractors are aware of the new rules by posting them on a CSLB \u003ca href=\"https://www.cslb.ca.gov/Resources/Newsletters/winter-2021-CLC.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">newsletter\u003c/a>, industry \u003ca href=\"https://www.cslb.ca.gov/media_room/industry_bulletins/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">bulletins\u003c/a>, social media posts and \u003ca href=\"https://www.cslb.ca.gov/Media_Room/consumer_education/licensing_workshops.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">workshops\u003c/a> for firms to get contractors' licenses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11864811/california-contractors-are-abusing-workers-comp-rules-a-new-bill-would-change-that","authors":["258"],"categories":["news_1758","news_457","news_6266","news_6188","news_28250","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21595","news_18538","news_18159","news_19904","news_17968","news_23007","news_19377"],"featImg":"news_11867414","label":"news"},"news_11823522":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11823522","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11823522","score":null,"sort":[1591739015000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"will-california-voters-support-new-taxes-to-avoid-painful-budget-cuts","title":"Will California Voters Support New Taxes to Avoid Painful Budget Cuts?","publishDate":1591739015,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>When supporters of increasing commercial property taxes, reshaping property tax transfer rules and legalizing sports gambling began formulating initiatives to put before voters in November, California's economy was riding high — unemployment was at historic lows and state coffers were flush with fat surpluses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With less than five months until Election Day, campaigns are now facing a different reality. California's economy has cratered due to the pandemic, leaving lawmakers scrambling to fill tens of billions of dollars in lost revenues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It also reshaped the political landscape.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When you start an initiative campaign, you start so much ahead of when the actual ballot contest is that the entire world changes under your feet before you actually get to the ballot,\" said Gale Kaufman, a political consultant with experience on dozens of high-profile ballot campaigns. \"And certainly this go round, it's moved several times and very dramatically.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, ballot ideas promising to raise billions of dollars in new revenues are likely to be pitched as lifelines for the state budget and the services they fund. And supporters are betting that Californians will again be willing to support new taxes on the ballot if the alternative is \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11822452/newsoms-proposed-cuts-to-child-care-rates-have-advocates-worried\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">painful cuts to schools\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/coronavirusliveupdates/news/11819605/advocates-warn-proposed-budget-cuts-will-put-more-seniors-into-nursing-homes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">social services\u003c/a>, as voters did during the last economic downturn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Napa Sen. Bill Dodd, author of a new sports gaming measure\"]'In a COVID-19 environment, raising money from as many sources as possible so we can make fewer cuts to this already devastated budget is so incredibly important.'[/pullquote]The largest and most controversial new revenue measure would roll back part of Proposition 13, the landmark initiative passed by voters in 1978, to raise taxes on commercial properties worth over $3 million while leaving residential property taxes untouched.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea of so-called \"split-roll\" reform has been around for decades. Under this version, backed largely by unions representing teachers and others, the increased assessments of commercial properties could raise up to $12 billion a year for local governments and schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With local governments weighing deep cuts and schools facing increased costs to safely reopen in light of the coronavirus, \"this measure is needed now more than ever,\" said Alex Stack, a spokesman for the Schools and Communities First ballot campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The budget crunch could also give a boost to initiative ideas that do more than just raise revenue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A ballot measure sponsored by the California Association of Realtors would make it easier for homeowners to transfer their existing property tax rate to a new home, similar to Proposition 5, which California voters rejected in 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But unlike that measure, the realtors' new initiative would also require property tax reassessments for inherited properties, which could ultimately result in schools and local governments reaping hundreds of millions of dollars in new tax revenue every year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Right now local governments are facing severe budget deficits across the state,\" said Becky Warren, a spokeswoman for the campaign. \"This does not increase the tax rate while still providing some additional new revenues that could be used to fill some of those budget deficits.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Legislators are getting into the game also. At the state Capitol, a proposal to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821371/should-california-legalize-and-tax-sports-betting-voters-could-decide\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">legalize and tax sports wagering\u003c/a> has been in the works for a year. Now, supporters of the idea hope the desperate state budget situation will entice support from voters who have no interest in ever placing a bet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11821371 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/05/RS43409_GettyImages-967865190-qut-1020x680.jpg']\"In a COVID-19 environment, raising money from as many sources as possible so we can make fewer cuts to this already devastated budget is so incredibly important,\" said State Sen. Bill Dodd, D-Napa, the author of the sports gaming measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sports gaming industry analysts estimate that taxes on sports wagering could bring in $500 to $700 million in new general fund revenues each year. The measure still faces an uncertain path to the ballot, as it will require a two-thirds vote in both houses of the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As state lawmakers have weighed billions in cuts to child care, senior services and health care, some have pointed to recent history for hopeful examples of voters rescuing the state budget at the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"$14 billion in trigger cuts would be a disaster,\" said Assemblyman Kevin McCarty, D-Sacramento, referring to state spending reductions set to happen unless federal funding come through. \"We need to look at other options, whether that's internal borrowing or going to the voters like Governor [Jerry] Brown did in 2012 with Prop 30.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proposition 30 raised sales taxes as well as income taxes on the state's highest earners to generate billions of dollars for the state's general fund.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure followed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11819069/what-lawmakers-learned-from-the-last-budget-crisis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">years of budget cuts\u003c/a> that slashed billions from schools, libraries and services for the disabled after the Great Recession ravaged the economy and government budgets. Brown warned that if Proposition 30 was rejected, further cuts would follow if voters didn't come to the rescue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By contrast, the state's current fiscal situation has quickly spiraled downhill; just six months ago, state lawmakers were planning historic investments in schools and housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"With Prop 30, you had several years where [voters] saw teachers being laid off. They saw serious cuts taking effect in their classrooms,\" said Kaufman, who worked to get Proposition 30 on the ballot. \"This is not the same because it hasn't happened yet.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='More Politics Coverage' tag='politics']And opponents of the tax measures say it would be unfair to turn to voters, millions of whom out are of work or struggling to keep businesses afloat, to solve the state's budget problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To say that this is the time to raise taxes is utterly irrational and very dangerous,\" said Susan Shelley of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, which opposes both the split roll and property tax transfer initiatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shelley said that changing Proposition 13 to raise taxes on large commercial property owners could result in further layoffs, while the realtors' property tax measure could saddle children with an enormous bill for any property they inherit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The more applicable history lesson, Shelley said, is the result of California's March primary, when voters rejected a statewide school bond and several local bond measures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Voters were already sending a message that they are taxed at the limit and they can't pay anymore,\" she said. \"This is an indication that voters in California are squeezed and they can't pay anymore.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Given the uncertainty on what economic and public health realities voters will face in November, the ballot campaigns may have to shift their messages more than once in the next five months, said Kaufman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think anyone running one of those campaigns can attempt to do it based on good, solid data, but to be honest, right now, the data has gotta be really about today. It's really not a prospective look at how people are going to feel in two months or three months,\" she said. \"And that's troubling.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Ballot measures to change Proposition 13, end inheritance tax breaks and legalize sports gambling could bring billions in revenue – but will recession-impacted voters go for it?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1591740058,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":30,"wordCount":1192},"headData":{"title":"Will California Voters Support New Taxes to Avoid Painful Budget Cuts? | KQED","description":"Measures to change Prop. 13, axe inheritance tax breaks and legalize sports gambling could bring billions in revenue. Will recession-weary voters go for it?","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11823522 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11823522","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/06/09/will-california-voters-support-new-taxes-to-avoid-painful-budget-cuts/","disqusTitle":"Will California Voters Support New Taxes to Avoid Painful Budget Cuts?","path":"/news/11823522/will-california-voters-support-new-taxes-to-avoid-painful-budget-cuts","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>When supporters of increasing commercial property taxes, reshaping property tax transfer rules and legalizing sports gambling began formulating initiatives to put before voters in November, California's economy was riding high — unemployment was at historic lows and state coffers were flush with fat surpluses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With less than five months until Election Day, campaigns are now facing a different reality. California's economy has cratered due to the pandemic, leaving lawmakers scrambling to fill tens of billions of dollars in lost revenues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It also reshaped the political landscape.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When you start an initiative campaign, you start so much ahead of when the actual ballot contest is that the entire world changes under your feet before you actually get to the ballot,\" said Gale Kaufman, a political consultant with experience on dozens of high-profile ballot campaigns. \"And certainly this go round, it's moved several times and very dramatically.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, ballot ideas promising to raise billions of dollars in new revenues are likely to be pitched as lifelines for the state budget and the services they fund. And supporters are betting that Californians will again be willing to support new taxes on the ballot if the alternative is \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11822452/newsoms-proposed-cuts-to-child-care-rates-have-advocates-worried\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">painful cuts to schools\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/coronavirusliveupdates/news/11819605/advocates-warn-proposed-budget-cuts-will-put-more-seniors-into-nursing-homes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">social services\u003c/a>, as voters did during the last economic downturn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'In a COVID-19 environment, raising money from as many sources as possible so we can make fewer cuts to this already devastated budget is so incredibly important.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Napa Sen. Bill Dodd, author of a new sports gaming measure","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The largest and most controversial new revenue measure would roll back part of Proposition 13, the landmark initiative passed by voters in 1978, to raise taxes on commercial properties worth over $3 million while leaving residential property taxes untouched.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea of so-called \"split-roll\" reform has been around for decades. Under this version, backed largely by unions representing teachers and others, the increased assessments of commercial properties could raise up to $12 billion a year for local governments and schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With local governments weighing deep cuts and schools facing increased costs to safely reopen in light of the coronavirus, \"this measure is needed now more than ever,\" said Alex Stack, a spokesman for the Schools and Communities First ballot campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The budget crunch could also give a boost to initiative ideas that do more than just raise revenue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A ballot measure sponsored by the California Association of Realtors would make it easier for homeowners to transfer their existing property tax rate to a new home, similar to Proposition 5, which California voters rejected in 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But unlike that measure, the realtors' new initiative would also require property tax reassessments for inherited properties, which could ultimately result in schools and local governments reaping hundreds of millions of dollars in new tax revenue every year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Right now local governments are facing severe budget deficits across the state,\" said Becky Warren, a spokeswoman for the campaign. \"This does not increase the tax rate while still providing some additional new revenues that could be used to fill some of those budget deficits.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Legislators are getting into the game also. At the state Capitol, a proposal to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821371/should-california-legalize-and-tax-sports-betting-voters-could-decide\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">legalize and tax sports wagering\u003c/a> has been in the works for a year. Now, supporters of the idea hope the desperate state budget situation will entice support from voters who have no interest in ever placing a bet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11821371","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/05/RS43409_GettyImages-967865190-qut-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\"In a COVID-19 environment, raising money from as many sources as possible so we can make fewer cuts to this already devastated budget is so incredibly important,\" said State Sen. Bill Dodd, D-Napa, the author of the sports gaming measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sports gaming industry analysts estimate that taxes on sports wagering could bring in $500 to $700 million in new general fund revenues each year. The measure still faces an uncertain path to the ballot, as it will require a two-thirds vote in both houses of the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As state lawmakers have weighed billions in cuts to child care, senior services and health care, some have pointed to recent history for hopeful examples of voters rescuing the state budget at the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"$14 billion in trigger cuts would be a disaster,\" said Assemblyman Kevin McCarty, D-Sacramento, referring to state spending reductions set to happen unless federal funding come through. \"We need to look at other options, whether that's internal borrowing or going to the voters like Governor [Jerry] Brown did in 2012 with Prop 30.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proposition 30 raised sales taxes as well as income taxes on the state's highest earners to generate billions of dollars for the state's general fund.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure followed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11819069/what-lawmakers-learned-from-the-last-budget-crisis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">years of budget cuts\u003c/a> that slashed billions from schools, libraries and services for the disabled after the Great Recession ravaged the economy and government budgets. Brown warned that if Proposition 30 was rejected, further cuts would follow if voters didn't come to the rescue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By contrast, the state's current fiscal situation has quickly spiraled downhill; just six months ago, state lawmakers were planning historic investments in schools and housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"With Prop 30, you had several years where [voters] saw teachers being laid off. They saw serious cuts taking effect in their classrooms,\" said Kaufman, who worked to get Proposition 30 on the ballot. \"This is not the same because it hasn't happened yet.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"More Politics Coverage ","tag":"politics"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>And opponents of the tax measures say it would be unfair to turn to voters, millions of whom out are of work or struggling to keep businesses afloat, to solve the state's budget problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To say that this is the time to raise taxes is utterly irrational and very dangerous,\" said Susan Shelley of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, which opposes both the split roll and property tax transfer initiatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shelley said that changing Proposition 13 to raise taxes on large commercial property owners could result in further layoffs, while the realtors' property tax measure could saddle children with an enormous bill for any property they inherit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The more applicable history lesson, Shelley said, is the result of California's March primary, when voters rejected a statewide school bond and several local bond measures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Voters were already sending a message that they are taxed at the limit and they can't pay anymore,\" she said. \"This is an indication that voters in California are squeezed and they can't pay anymore.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Given the uncertainty on what economic and public health realities voters will face in November, the ballot campaigns may have to shift their messages more than once in the next five months, said Kaufman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think anyone running one of those campaigns can attempt to do it based on good, solid data, but to be honest, right now, the data has gotta be really about today. It's really not a prospective look at how people are going to feel in two months or three months,\" she said. \"And that's troubling.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11823522/will-california-voters-support-new-taxes-to-avoid-painful-budget-cuts","authors":["227"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21595","news_18538","news_27350","news_27504","news_27370","news_17968","news_725"],"featImg":"news_11823689","label":"news"},"news_11784053":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11784053","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11784053","score":null,"sort":[1572558661000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-pursues-a-holy-grail-high-tech-data-to-predict-how-wildfire-will-spread","title":"California Pursues a Holy Grail: High-Tech Data to Predict How Wildfire Will Spread","publishDate":1572558661,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>On a recent day at an expansive National Guard airfield in Los Alamitos, local fire officials put on display what $4.5 million can buy: planes crammed with high-definition cameras, radar and infrared equipment that peers through smoke. This eye in the sky can provide commanders on the ground with a broad picture of a wildfire in its infancy, the most critical time for decision-making.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The plane — operating at 10,000 feet, out of signal range — beams the information to a smaller aircraft below, which relays it to a UC San Diego research team running a lab known as \u003ca href=\"https://wifire.ucsd.edu/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">WIFIRE\u003c/a>. The lab’s supercomputer spits out mapping and heat-detection data within minutes, and it generates a model of how the fire might spread based on a number of factors — the holy grail for fire bosses. Eventually, such information will go to a wildfire warning center created under a new state law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag=\"power-shutoffs\" label=\"Pacific Gas and Electric Power Shutoffs\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The planes are part of a pilot program, an aspect of California’s emphasis on technology to respond to wildfire. In the state’s new landscape of more frequent and more ferocious fires, it takes a village to combat the menace: private technology, state and local fire agencies and computing know-how at California’s universities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The push to better anticipate wildfire danger is intended, in part, to provide early warning to residents about conditions so they can evacuate safely, before any flames get near. But the information bounty, welcome to many state officials and agencies, has potential downsides: It could regularly scare the heck out of Californians with a never-ending barrage of red-flag warnings, ever more disruptive power shutdowns — like the one \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11783228/with-massive-blackout-still-in-place-pge-considers-yet-another-preemptive-outage\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 700,000 Northern\u003c/a> Californians recently endured — and ever more warnings to flee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More frequent alerts could eventually cause residents to disregard them, acknowledged state Sen. Bill Dodd, who \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB209\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">proposed\u003c/a> the warning center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Yes, we do risk that the pendulum swings the other way,” said the Napa Democrat. “But it’s probably better to err on the side of giving folks too much information. We have to do this surgically so that only the people in the high-threat areas get these notices.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually the warning center will be operated by the state firefighting arm, known as Cal Fire, and by the Public Utilities Commission and California’s Department of Emergency Services, Dodd said. The information collected — from multiple sources under various auspices — will be shared with federal, state and local authorities, utility companies and the public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Cottie Petrie-Norris, Laguna Beach assemblywoman (D)\"]'We need to shift strategies to deal with the constant threat of wildfires. We need better tools.'[/pullquote]Gov. Gavin Newsom budgeted about $1 billion in new funding for fire preparedness and response, and said he intends to tap into the hive mind of California’s innovative businesses to create better tools for predicting and attacking fire. In January, on his first full day in office, Newsom signed an \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/1.8.19-EO-N-04-19.pdf\">executive order\u003c/a> establishing the Wildfire Innovation Sprint, a program to foster that innovation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state has already signed the program’s first two contracts. One project will use advanced computing to predict a fire’s path; the other will fund a network of “sky sensors” to detect fires as soon as they ignite and send alerts to emergency officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In March, the Public Utilities Commission hosted an international conference exploring how to harness science, private-sector products and yet-to-be-developed devices to respond to wildfires. The discussion included:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Smartphone apps to guide residents along the safest evacuation routes during the smoke and chaos of fires\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Equipment that utilities attach to power lines to provide real-time diagnostics\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The use of artificial intelligence to “teach” remote cameras to monitor backcountry\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Unmanned drones to observe fires\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>High-speed computing to predict and track fires\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>“We need to shift strategies to deal with the \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/explainers/californias-worsening-wildfires-explained/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">constant threat\u003c/a> of wildfires,” said Assemblywoman Cottie Petrie-Norris, a Laguna Beach Democrat. She secured the state funds for the pilot aviation project, which is being used in five Southern California counties. “We need better tools.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag=\"kincade-fire\" label=\"Sonoma County's Kincade Fire\"]Part of the state’s plan is to knit together what exists already: copious weather data, cameras operated by utility companies and federal partners. The new approach emphasizes information sharing, a potentially difficult concept for utilities and other businesses typically more comfortable keeping their data to themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to its involvement in the plane pilot program, UC San Diego operates the \u003ca href=\"http://www.alertwildfire.org/northbay/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ALERT Wildfire system\u003c/a> with the University of Nevada and the University of Oregon, a network of almost 300 high-definition cameras trained on high-fire-threat areas. The remotely operated cameras can see up to 70 miles in daylight and 100 miles with infrared at night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Each camera pans and tilts every two minutes, said Neal Driscoll, who runs the program. The resulting information feeds into a computer that “learns” what constitutes normal conditions in a specific place. When the cameras detect an anomaly such as a smoke plume, an alarm goes off, alerting a myriad of local and state agencies that monitor the system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the case of a fire, authorities can manipulate the camera network to identify the fire site with fine resolution and quickly create a map.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11784102\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11784102\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Computer in Capt. Michael Flynn’s command vehicle shows view from airplane sending fire data from the sky. \u003ccite>(Nancy Pastor/CalMatters )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Computer programmers are using artificial intelligence to teach the network to distinguish between clouds and smoke, Driscoll said, and over time the cameras will act as remote 911 sensors. Such sensors send alarms to computers in dozens of emergency centers and other offices around the state, where Cal Fire or another agency can take control of the cameras and determine whether to dispatch a crew or whether it’s a false alarm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Having real-time data and being able to move these cameras from command centers has changed the way we fight fire,” Driscoll said. “They allow us to make a quick confirmation of a fire and make critical decisions in the critical moment — at the incipient point.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officials hope to expand the system eventually to 1,000 cameras around the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11784085 alignright\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-graphic-.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"660\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-graphic-.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-graphic--160x264.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the interaction with new technology falls to Cal Fire and local fire agencies, where handed-down traditions are strong. The fire service has in the past been slow to adapt to change — longtime wildland firefighters laugh about how old-timers resisted the adoption of chainsaws, arguing that axes didn’t need gasoline to operate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It used to be that you’d drop the tailgate on a commander’s pickup and put a map on it,” said Cal Fire Deputy Director Mike Mohler. “Now you drop the tailgate and the truckbed is full of computers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, some fire veterans keep one boot in the future and one in the past, cautioning that technology is helpful only until it fails. There’s no substitute for experience — what Dave Winnacker, chief of the Bay Area Moraga-Orinda fire district, calls “the hair-on-the-back-of-the-neck factor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is a human business; we need people doing things, not staring at a tablet,” Winnacker said. “The computer just remorselessly runs the scenario and does the math. When the model runs, I want my battalion chief up on the hill to look at the model, and then look at the fire, and say, ‘Hmm, I don’t think that’s right.’ The machine does not have the authority to make decisions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Winnacker was a crew leader fighting a 2017 blaze in Napa Valley, where cell service went down for seven days. “The need for an analog option is always there. We are always going to need people who can operate without the information scaffolding support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We can’t just say, ‘The Wi-Fi is down; we can’t fight a fire today.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://calmatter.org\">CalMatters.org\u003c/a> is a nonprofit, nonpartisan media venture explaining California policies and politics.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"But real-time data from sophisticated cameras and supercomputers has potential downsides: too many alarm bells, more blackouts and less boots-on-the-ground input. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1572560839,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":1416},"headData":{"title":"California Pursues a Holy Grail: High-Tech Data to Predict How Wildfire Will Spread | KQED","description":"But real-time data from sophisticated cameras and supercomputers has potential downsides: too many alarm bells, more blackouts and less boots-on-the-ground input. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11784053 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11784053","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/10/31/california-pursues-a-holy-grail-high-tech-data-to-predict-how-wildfire-will-spread/","disqusTitle":"California Pursues a Holy Grail: High-Tech Data to Predict How Wildfire Will Spread","source":"CalMatters","sourceUrl":"calmatters.org","nprByline":"\u003ca href= \"https://calmatters.org/author/julie-cart/\"> Julie Cart \u003ca/>","path":"/news/11784053/california-pursues-a-holy-grail-high-tech-data-to-predict-how-wildfire-will-spread","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>On a recent day at an expansive National Guard airfield in Los Alamitos, local fire officials put on display what $4.5 million can buy: planes crammed with high-definition cameras, radar and infrared equipment that peers through smoke. This eye in the sky can provide commanders on the ground with a broad picture of a wildfire in its infancy, the most critical time for decision-making.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The plane — operating at 10,000 feet, out of signal range — beams the information to a smaller aircraft below, which relays it to a UC San Diego research team running a lab known as \u003ca href=\"https://wifire.ucsd.edu/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">WIFIRE\u003c/a>. The lab’s supercomputer spits out mapping and heat-detection data within minutes, and it generates a model of how the fire might spread based on a number of factors — the holy grail for fire bosses. Eventually, such information will go to a wildfire warning center created under a new state law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"power-shutoffs","label":"Pacific Gas and Electric Power Shutoffs "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The planes are part of a pilot program, an aspect of California’s emphasis on technology to respond to wildfire. In the state’s new landscape of more frequent and more ferocious fires, it takes a village to combat the menace: private technology, state and local fire agencies and computing know-how at California’s universities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The push to better anticipate wildfire danger is intended, in part, to provide early warning to residents about conditions so they can evacuate safely, before any flames get near. But the information bounty, welcome to many state officials and agencies, has potential downsides: It could regularly scare the heck out of Californians with a never-ending barrage of red-flag warnings, ever more disruptive power shutdowns — like the one \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11783228/with-massive-blackout-still-in-place-pge-considers-yet-another-preemptive-outage\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 700,000 Northern\u003c/a> Californians recently endured — and ever more warnings to flee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More frequent alerts could eventually cause residents to disregard them, acknowledged state Sen. Bill Dodd, who \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB209\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">proposed\u003c/a> the warning center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Yes, we do risk that the pendulum swings the other way,” said the Napa Democrat. “But it’s probably better to err on the side of giving folks too much information. We have to do this surgically so that only the people in the high-threat areas get these notices.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually the warning center will be operated by the state firefighting arm, known as Cal Fire, and by the Public Utilities Commission and California’s Department of Emergency Services, Dodd said. The information collected — from multiple sources under various auspices — will be shared with federal, state and local authorities, utility companies and the public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'We need to shift strategies to deal with the constant threat of wildfires. We need better tools.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Cottie Petrie-Norris, Laguna Beach assemblywoman (D)","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Gov. Gavin Newsom budgeted about $1 billion in new funding for fire preparedness and response, and said he intends to tap into the hive mind of California’s innovative businesses to create better tools for predicting and attacking fire. In January, on his first full day in office, Newsom signed an \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/1.8.19-EO-N-04-19.pdf\">executive order\u003c/a> establishing the Wildfire Innovation Sprint, a program to foster that innovation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state has already signed the program’s first two contracts. One project will use advanced computing to predict a fire’s path; the other will fund a network of “sky sensors” to detect fires as soon as they ignite and send alerts to emergency officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In March, the Public Utilities Commission hosted an international conference exploring how to harness science, private-sector products and yet-to-be-developed devices to respond to wildfires. The discussion included:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Smartphone apps to guide residents along the safest evacuation routes during the smoke and chaos of fires\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Equipment that utilities attach to power lines to provide real-time diagnostics\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The use of artificial intelligence to “teach” remote cameras to monitor backcountry\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Unmanned drones to observe fires\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>High-speed computing to predict and track fires\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>“We need to shift strategies to deal with the \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/explainers/californias-worsening-wildfires-explained/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">constant threat\u003c/a> of wildfires,” said Assemblywoman Cottie Petrie-Norris, a Laguna Beach Democrat. She secured the state funds for the pilot aviation project, which is being used in five Southern California counties. “We need better tools.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"kincade-fire","label":"Sonoma County's Kincade Fire "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Part of the state’s plan is to knit together what exists already: copious weather data, cameras operated by utility companies and federal partners. The new approach emphasizes information sharing, a potentially difficult concept for utilities and other businesses typically more comfortable keeping their data to themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to its involvement in the plane pilot program, UC San Diego operates the \u003ca href=\"http://www.alertwildfire.org/northbay/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ALERT Wildfire system\u003c/a> with the University of Nevada and the University of Oregon, a network of almost 300 high-definition cameras trained on high-fire-threat areas. The remotely operated cameras can see up to 70 miles in daylight and 100 miles with infrared at night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Each camera pans and tilts every two minutes, said Neal Driscoll, who runs the program. The resulting information feeds into a computer that “learns” what constitutes normal conditions in a specific place. When the cameras detect an anomaly such as a smoke plume, an alarm goes off, alerting a myriad of local and state agencies that monitor the system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the case of a fire, authorities can manipulate the camera network to identify the fire site with fine resolution and quickly create a map.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11784102\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11784102\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/RS39922_FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-photo-2-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Computer in Capt. Michael Flynn’s command vehicle shows view from airplane sending fire data from the sky. \u003ccite>(Nancy Pastor/CalMatters )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Computer programmers are using artificial intelligence to teach the network to distinguish between clouds and smoke, Driscoll said, and over time the cameras will act as remote 911 sensors. Such sensors send alarms to computers in dozens of emergency centers and other offices around the state, where Cal Fire or another agency can take control of the cameras and determine whether to dispatch a crew or whether it’s a false alarm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Having real-time data and being able to move these cameras from command centers has changed the way we fight fire,” Driscoll said. “They allow us to make a quick confirmation of a fire and make critical decisions in the critical moment — at the incipient point.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officials hope to expand the system eventually to 1,000 cameras around the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11784085 alignright\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-graphic-.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"660\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-graphic-.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/FIRE-TECHNOLOGY-graphic--160x264.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the interaction with new technology falls to Cal Fire and local fire agencies, where handed-down traditions are strong. The fire service has in the past been slow to adapt to change — longtime wildland firefighters laugh about how old-timers resisted the adoption of chainsaws, arguing that axes didn’t need gasoline to operate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It used to be that you’d drop the tailgate on a commander’s pickup and put a map on it,” said Cal Fire Deputy Director Mike Mohler. “Now you drop the tailgate and the truckbed is full of computers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, some fire veterans keep one boot in the future and one in the past, cautioning that technology is helpful only until it fails. There’s no substitute for experience — what Dave Winnacker, chief of the Bay Area Moraga-Orinda fire district, calls “the hair-on-the-back-of-the-neck factor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is a human business; we need people doing things, not staring at a tablet,” Winnacker said. “The computer just remorselessly runs the scenario and does the math. When the model runs, I want my battalion chief up on the hill to look at the model, and then look at the fire, and say, ‘Hmm, I don’t think that’s right.’ The machine does not have the authority to make decisions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Winnacker was a crew leader fighting a 2017 blaze in Napa Valley, where cell service went down for seven days. “The need for an analog option is always there. We are always going to need people who can operate without the information scaffolding support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We can’t just say, ‘The Wi-Fi is down; we can’t fight a fire today.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://calmatter.org\">CalMatters.org\u003c/a> is a nonprofit, nonpartisan media venture explaining California policies and politics.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11784053/california-pursues-a-holy-grail-high-tech-data-to-predict-how-wildfire-will-spread","authors":["byline_news_11784053"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_356"],"tags":["news_21595","news_6383","news_16","news_26914","news_4463"],"affiliates":["news_18481"],"featImg":"news_11784088","label":"source_news_11784053"},"news_11782550":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11782550","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11782550","score":null,"sort":[1571964173000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"bill-dodd-on-utility-reform-leaving-the-gop-and-his-high-school-cover-band","title":"Bill Dodd on Utility Reform, Leaving the GOP and His High School Cover Band","publishDate":1571964173,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Bill Dodd on Utility Reform, Leaving the GOP and His High School Cover Band | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>As the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782251/kincade-fire-sonoma-county-geyserville-healdsburg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kincade Fire threatens homes\u003c/a> in Sonoma County, Scott and Marisa discuss a new \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782081/poll-shows-anger-at-pge-gavin-newsom-over-blackouts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">KQED/Change Research poll\u003c/a> on PG&E’s decision to shut off power in hopes of avoiding future blazes (0:20). Then, Napa State Senator Bill Dodd joins to talk about his childhood in Napa, switching to the Democratic party, and the future of California law governing utilities (5:53).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700876063,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":3,"wordCount":68},"headData":{"title":"Bill Dodd on Utility Reform, Leaving the GOP and His High School Cover Band | KQED","description":"As the Kincade Fire threatens homes in Sonoma County, Scott and Marisa discuss a new KQED/Change Research poll on PG&E's decision to shut off power in hopes of avoiding future blazes (0:20). 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Then, Napa State Senator Bill Dodd joins to talk about his childhood in Napa, switching to the Democratic party, and the future of California law governing utilities (5:53).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11782550/bill-dodd-on-utility-reform-leaving-the-gop-and-his-high-school-cover-band","authors":["255","3239"],"programs":["news_33544"],"categories":["news_8","news_33520","news_13"],"tags":["news_21595","news_140","news_22235"],"featImg":"news_11782561","label":"source_news_11782550"},"news_11782081":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11782081","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11782081","score":null,"sort":[1571869698000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"poll-shows-anger-at-pge-gavin-newsom-over-blackouts","title":"Californians Are Angry at PG&E Over Blackouts — And They’re Not Sparing Newsom","publishDate":1571869698,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Californians are skeptical that PG&E needed to shut off power to millions of people in recent weeks to avoid wildfires, and overwhelmingly say the utility is handling the blackouts poorly, \u003ca href=\"https://www.changeresearch.com/pge-california-poll-oct-15-18\">according to a new poll\u003c/a> by \u003ca href=\"https://www.changeresearch.com/\">Change Research\u003c/a> provided exclusively to KQED News.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But reflecting the tough choices in front of both PG&E and public officials, a majority of respondents — 55% — said they would rather lose power for several days than risk a wildfire, and just one-third of those polled said the decision to shut off power should be handed over to government officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='medium' align='right' citation=\"Pat Reilly, Change Research co-founder\"]'Californians have lost faith in large, Wall Street-driven publicly traded companies to put people first.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.changeresearch.com/pge-california-poll-oct-15-18\">online survey was conducted by Change Research\u003c/a> after the first round of shutoffs cut power to about 2 million residents earlier this month. Its release comes as PG&E begins another round of preemptive blackouts in Northern California: The utility\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11781681/here-are-the-cities-that-could-be-affected-by-pge-power-shutoffs\"> plans to cut power to 179,000 customers in 17 counties\u003c/a> starting Wednesday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Change Research co-founder Pat Reilly said the poll shows growing dissatisfaction with PG&E, noting that the company's unfavorability ratings have grown significantly in recent months — a dissatisfaction that transcends partisan divides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11782140\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-800x568.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"568\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-800x568.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-160x114.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-1020x724.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-1200x852.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1.jpg 1429w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"PG&E had a 49% unfavorable rating when we started our monthly California poll in February of this year. Eight months later, that has risen to 61% unfavorable,\" she said, adding that only 9 percent of those polled rated the company favorably.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Californians were evenly split on who should have the power to decide when to shut down power — about a third of respondents said the “utilities know best,\" while another third said state regulators or government officials should make the call, and another third said they don't know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The poll indicates that the public doesn't blame only PG&E for what’s happening: They’re also dissatisfied with Gov. Gavin Newsom, despite his vocal criticism of PG&E leadership management in recent weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2019/10/22/governor-newsom-demands-pge-do-more-to-warn-customers-limit-scope-of-potential-pge-public-safety-power-shutoff/\">demanded\u003c/a> in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/10.22.19-Letter.pdf\">letter to PG&E CEO Bill Johnson\u003c/a> that the utility do a better job communicating with customers and work to limit the number of people impacted by blackouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite Newsom’s tough rhetoric, respondents gave the governor’s handling of the incident low marks — just 7 percent of those polled said his response to the blackouts was “excellent”; 33% rated it average or above-average; and 47% said the governor’s handling was below-average or very poor. Republicans were much harder on Newsom, with 83% saying he handled it “very” poorly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Legislature got marks similar to the governor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11782143\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-800x570.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"570\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-800x570.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-160x114.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-1020x726.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-1200x854.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll.jpg 1441w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, a spokeswoman for Newsom said he shares the public's frustration and that he's continuing to work on solutions to help protect the public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If PG&E had prioritized safety over profits and had updated their infrastructure like other utilities, we would not be in this situation,\" said spokeswoman Vicky Waters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That is certainly frustrating for the governor and it’s no doubt frustrating for the public. The governor has aggressively held the utility accountable and also provided state personnel, state funding, and changes to state laws, to help reduce the fallout for Californians from PG&E's decisions.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11779330 label='Another Governor, Another Power Crisis' hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Gavin-Newsom-1020x680.jpg\"]Overall, just 20% of respondents said they viewed the first round of outages as necessary, with 53% saying they were not. And 63% rated PG&E’s handling of the incident below-average or very poor — a response that crossed party lines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But things get more complicated when you dig a bit deeper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In bad news for PG&E, a plurality of respondents — 40% — said they think PG&E should be broken up into smaller regional utilities; 30% supported a public takeover of the embattled utility. Just 1 percent backed what the poll called “a public bailout.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And reflecting the growing frustration with PG&E, Californians appear to have soured on the entire investor-owned-utility structure, in which publicly traded companies get a monopoly to provide a utility to the public, and receive a guaranteed profit margin, but are regulated by the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A solid 62% of those polled said it’s a bad idea to have a utility’s shares traded on Wall Street. And 77% agreed with the statement, “It’s always a bad idea to have investor owned public utilities. They’re more concerned about shareholders’ returns than creating a safe infrastructure for the public.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Californians have lost faith in large, Wall Street-driven publicly traded companies to put people first,\" Reilly said. \"The plurality of Californians, 40%, want the basics — light, power and public safety — to be managed by smaller, regional utilities that will prioritize community interest over investor interest. Another 30% want the state to take these companies over.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11782149\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-800x591.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"591\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-800x591.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-1020x754.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-1200x887.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup.jpg 1291w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But interestingly, just 18% of those polled blame inadequate PG&E equipment as the biggest driver of wildfires in recent years — even though the utility has \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11729842/pge-says-its-equipment-likely-caused-camp-fire-as-investigation-continues\">admitted fault\u003c/a> in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11747838/pge-blamed-for-sparking-deadly-camp-fire-now-what\">deadliest, most destructive wildfire in modern California history\u003c/a> and is blamed by state investigators for other destructive blazes in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, 30% said inadequate forest management was to blame for recent wildfires, and 29% said climate change is the culprit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The conflicting feelings among poll respondents in some ways mirror the evolving position of state lawmakers around how to deal with PG&E.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Coverage\" tag=\"pge\"]Last year, in the wake of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/north-bay-fires/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2017 North Bay Fires\u003c/a>, lawmakers rejected \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11682315/governor-jerry-brown-proposal-would-make-it-harder-to-sue-utilities-for-fire-damages\">efforts by PG&E and Gov. Jerry Brown to change liability laws\u003c/a> and make it harder to sue utilities that cause damage but didn't act negligently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They balked after pressure from victims' groups and insurance companies. But they also seemed reticent to back anything resembling a bailout for a company many lawmakers said they couldn't trust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But months later in 2018, the Legislature \u003cem>did\u003c/em> pass \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11689873/california-legislature-passes-major-reforms-to-wildfire-law\">reforms aimed in part at keeping PG&E out of bankruptcy\u003c/a> — a route the utility \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11717965/pge-announces-plans-for-bankruptcy-protection\">ultimately decided to take anyway\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And this summer, lawmakers and Newsom worked together to craft \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11760618/newsom-signs-wildfire-liability-bill-utility-customers-to-pay-10-5-billion-into-new-fund\">a bill\u003c/a> that will provide PG&E and other utilities some financial backstop moving forward, so that another utility doesn't end up in bankruptcy court if it sparks another disastrous fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Napa state Sen. Bill Dodd, who has been deeply involved in the wildfire and utility debate in Sacramento, told KQED's Political Breakdown podcast this week that his view of what should happen to PG&E has changed over the past two years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I am open to all alternatives,\" Dodd said when asked about whether the entire structure of PG&E should be changed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He called on Newsom to create a team of experts to study what kind of restructuring is possible, both technically and financially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Let's figure out what is the art of the possible with our electrical grid going forward. This is insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results with PG&E,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The poll of 2,605 Californians has approximately a 1.9 percent margin of error. It was conducted online between Oct. 15 and 18 — the week after the first round of PG&E blackouts. Thirty-two percent of those polled said they were in an area where there were blackouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Californians prefer blackouts to risk of wildfire, but they’re skeptical that PG&E needed to shut off power to millions of people in recent weeks, and overwhelmingly say the utility is handling the shutoffs poorly, according to a new Change Research poll.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1571882751,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":37,"wordCount":1308},"headData":{"title":"Californians Are Angry at PG&E Over Blackouts — And They’re Not Sparing Newsom | KQED","description":"Californians prefer blackouts to risk of wildfire, but they’re skeptical that PG&E needed to shut off power to millions of people in recent weeks, and overwhelmingly say the utility is handling the shutoffs poorly, according to a new Change Research poll.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11782081 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11782081","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/10/23/poll-shows-anger-at-pge-gavin-newsom-over-blackouts/","disqusTitle":"Californians Are Angry at PG&E Over Blackouts — And They’re Not Sparing Newsom","path":"/news/11782081/poll-shows-anger-at-pge-gavin-newsom-over-blackouts","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Californians are skeptical that PG&E needed to shut off power to millions of people in recent weeks to avoid wildfires, and overwhelmingly say the utility is handling the blackouts poorly, \u003ca href=\"https://www.changeresearch.com/pge-california-poll-oct-15-18\">according to a new poll\u003c/a> by \u003ca href=\"https://www.changeresearch.com/\">Change Research\u003c/a> provided exclusively to KQED News.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But reflecting the tough choices in front of both PG&E and public officials, a majority of respondents — 55% — said they would rather lose power for several days than risk a wildfire, and just one-third of those polled said the decision to shut off power should be handed over to government officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Californians have lost faith in large, Wall Street-driven publicly traded companies to put people first.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Pat Reilly, Change Research co-founder","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.changeresearch.com/pge-california-poll-oct-15-18\">online survey was conducted by Change Research\u003c/a> after the first round of shutoffs cut power to about 2 million residents earlier this month. Its release comes as PG&E begins another round of preemptive blackouts in Northern California: The utility\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11781681/here-are-the-cities-that-could-be-affected-by-pge-power-shutoffs\"> plans to cut power to 179,000 customers in 17 counties\u003c/a> starting Wednesday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Change Research co-founder Pat Reilly said the poll shows growing dissatisfaction with PG&E, noting that the company's unfavorability ratings have grown significantly in recent months — a dissatisfaction that transcends partisan divides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11782140\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-800x568.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"568\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-800x568.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-160x114.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-1020x724.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1-1200x852.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Change-Poll-1.jpg 1429w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"PG&E had a 49% unfavorable rating when we started our monthly California poll in February of this year. Eight months later, that has risen to 61% unfavorable,\" she said, adding that only 9 percent of those polled rated the company favorably.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Californians were evenly split on who should have the power to decide when to shut down power — about a third of respondents said the “utilities know best,\" while another third said state regulators or government officials should make the call, and another third said they don't know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The poll indicates that the public doesn't blame only PG&E for what’s happening: They’re also dissatisfied with Gov. Gavin Newsom, despite his vocal criticism of PG&E leadership management in recent weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2019/10/22/governor-newsom-demands-pge-do-more-to-warn-customers-limit-scope-of-potential-pge-public-safety-power-shutoff/\">demanded\u003c/a> in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/10.22.19-Letter.pdf\">letter to PG&E CEO Bill Johnson\u003c/a> that the utility do a better job communicating with customers and work to limit the number of people impacted by blackouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite Newsom’s tough rhetoric, respondents gave the governor’s handling of the incident low marks — just 7 percent of those polled said his response to the blackouts was “excellent”; 33% rated it average or above-average; and 47% said the governor’s handling was below-average or very poor. Republicans were much harder on Newsom, with 83% saying he handled it “very” poorly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Legislature got marks similar to the governor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11782143\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-800x570.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"570\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-800x570.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-160x114.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-1020x726.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll-1200x854.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Newsom-PGE-Response-Poll.jpg 1441w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, a spokeswoman for Newsom said he shares the public's frustration and that he's continuing to work on solutions to help protect the public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If PG&E had prioritized safety over profits and had updated their infrastructure like other utilities, we would not be in this situation,\" said spokeswoman Vicky Waters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That is certainly frustrating for the governor and it’s no doubt frustrating for the public. The governor has aggressively held the utility accountable and also provided state personnel, state funding, and changes to state laws, to help reduce the fallout for Californians from PG&E's decisions.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11779330","label":"Another Governor, Another Power Crisis ","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Gavin-Newsom-1020x680.jpg"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Overall, just 20% of respondents said they viewed the first round of outages as necessary, with 53% saying they were not. And 63% rated PG&E’s handling of the incident below-average or very poor — a response that crossed party lines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But things get more complicated when you dig a bit deeper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In bad news for PG&E, a plurality of respondents — 40% — said they think PG&E should be broken up into smaller regional utilities; 30% supported a public takeover of the embattled utility. Just 1 percent backed what the poll called “a public bailout.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And reflecting the growing frustration with PG&E, Californians appear to have soured on the entire investor-owned-utility structure, in which publicly traded companies get a monopoly to provide a utility to the public, and receive a guaranteed profit margin, but are regulated by the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A solid 62% of those polled said it’s a bad idea to have a utility’s shares traded on Wall Street. And 77% agreed with the statement, “It’s always a bad idea to have investor owned public utilities. They’re more concerned about shareholders’ returns than creating a safe infrastructure for the public.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Californians have lost faith in large, Wall Street-driven publicly traded companies to put people first,\" Reilly said. \"The plurality of Californians, 40%, want the basics — light, power and public safety — to be managed by smaller, regional utilities that will prioritize community interest over investor interest. Another 30% want the state to take these companies over.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11782149\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-800x591.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"591\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-800x591.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-160x118.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-1020x754.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup-1200x887.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/PNG-Future-Breakup.jpg 1291w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But interestingly, just 18% of those polled blame inadequate PG&E equipment as the biggest driver of wildfires in recent years — even though the utility has \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11729842/pge-says-its-equipment-likely-caused-camp-fire-as-investigation-continues\">admitted fault\u003c/a> in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11747838/pge-blamed-for-sparking-deadly-camp-fire-now-what\">deadliest, most destructive wildfire in modern California history\u003c/a> and is blamed by state investigators for other destructive blazes in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, 30% said inadequate forest management was to blame for recent wildfires, and 29% said climate change is the culprit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The conflicting feelings among poll respondents in some ways mirror the evolving position of state lawmakers around how to deal with PG&E.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","tag":"pge"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Last year, in the wake of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/north-bay-fires/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2017 North Bay Fires\u003c/a>, lawmakers rejected \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11682315/governor-jerry-brown-proposal-would-make-it-harder-to-sue-utilities-for-fire-damages\">efforts by PG&E and Gov. Jerry Brown to change liability laws\u003c/a> and make it harder to sue utilities that cause damage but didn't act negligently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They balked after pressure from victims' groups and insurance companies. But they also seemed reticent to back anything resembling a bailout for a company many lawmakers said they couldn't trust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But months later in 2018, the Legislature \u003cem>did\u003c/em> pass \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11689873/california-legislature-passes-major-reforms-to-wildfire-law\">reforms aimed in part at keeping PG&E out of bankruptcy\u003c/a> — a route the utility \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11717965/pge-announces-plans-for-bankruptcy-protection\">ultimately decided to take anyway\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And this summer, lawmakers and Newsom worked together to craft \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11760618/newsom-signs-wildfire-liability-bill-utility-customers-to-pay-10-5-billion-into-new-fund\">a bill\u003c/a> that will provide PG&E and other utilities some financial backstop moving forward, so that another utility doesn't end up in bankruptcy court if it sparks another disastrous fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Napa state Sen. Bill Dodd, who has been deeply involved in the wildfire and utility debate in Sacramento, told KQED's Political Breakdown podcast this week that his view of what should happen to PG&E has changed over the past two years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I am open to all alternatives,\" Dodd said when asked about whether the entire structure of PG&E should be changed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He called on Newsom to create a team of experts to study what kind of restructuring is possible, both technically and financially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Let's figure out what is the art of the possible with our electrical grid going forward. This is insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results with PG&E,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The poll of 2,605 Californians has approximately a 1.9 percent margin of error. It was conducted online between Oct. 15 and 18 — the week after the first round of PG&E blackouts. Thirty-two percent of those polled said they were in an area where there were blackouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11782081/poll-shows-anger-at-pge-gavin-newsom-over-blackouts","authors":["3239"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_13","news_356"],"tags":["news_21595","news_26913","news_16","news_140","news_24802","news_26815","news_26868","news_26802","news_25816","news_17041"],"featImg":"news_11782118","label":"news_72"},"news_11726354":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11726354","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11726354","score":null,"sort":[1550194208000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"after-years-of-busting-its-firefighting-budget-should-california-get-disaster-insurance","title":"After Years of Busting its Firefighting Budget, Should California Get Disaster Insurance?","publishDate":1550194208,"format":"image","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>California has blown through its firefighting budget in seven of the past 10 years. Now, some state leaders are proposing a novel way to pay for those overruns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara and state Sen. Bill Dodd unveiled legislation Thursday that would pave the way for California to take out an insurance policy for disasters, including the devastating wildfires that have ripped through numerous communities in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It works just like your home insurance but for our actual state. You pay a premium each year, and we are protected,\" Lara said. \"If a disaster strikes, once you cover the deductible, the plan pays you back for your losses.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd noted that California spent $947 million fighting wildfires over the fiscal year that ended last July — $450 million more than state leaders budgeted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He argued that letting an insurance company carry more risk could free up state resources for preventing wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Rising wildfire suppression costs can strain California’s financial resources and threaten cuts to critical programs,” said Sen. Dodd, D-Napa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As climate change continues to contribute to devastating infernos, we need a strategy to reduce the pressure on state and community coffers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11726439\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11726439 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-800x520.jpg\" alt=\"Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara and State Sen. Bill Dodd hold a press conference on Thursday, Feb. 14, 2019. \" width=\"800\" height=\"520\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-800x520.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-160x104.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-1020x664.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-1200x781.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara, right, and state Sen. Bill Dodd hold a press conference on Thursday, Feb. 14, 2019. \u003ccite>(Marisa Lagos/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The proposal wouldn’t require the state to take out an insurance policy, but would authorize the governor, insurance commissioner and treasurer to explore the possibility. Similar programs have been embraced by the state of Oregon and the Federal Emergency Management Agency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At least one large insurance group said it would back the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Insurers understand the need for new products and strategies to finance the mitigation and recovery from these unprecedented wildfires,\" Armand Feliciano, vice president for the American Property Casualty Insurance Association, said in a written statement. \"We look forward to working with the legislature and statewide elected officials to consider and develop innovative ways to prevent and fight future wildfires. “\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The state has blown through its firefighting budget in seven of the past 10 years — and some leaders are proposing a novel way to pay for those cost overruns.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1550263317,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":12,"wordCount":341},"headData":{"title":"After Years of Busting its Firefighting Budget, Should California Get Disaster Insurance? | KQED","description":"The state has blown through its firefighting budget in seven of the past 10 years — and some leaders are proposing a novel way to pay for those cost overruns.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11726354 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11726354","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/02/14/after-years-of-busting-its-firefighting-budget-should-california-get-disaster-insurance/","disqusTitle":"After Years of Busting its Firefighting Budget, Should California Get Disaster Insurance?","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2019/02/FireInsuranceLagostcram190215.mp3","audioTrackLength":72,"path":"/news/11726354/after-years-of-busting-its-firefighting-budget-should-california-get-disaster-insurance","audioDuration":90000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>California has blown through its firefighting budget in seven of the past 10 years. Now, some state leaders are proposing a novel way to pay for those overruns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara and state Sen. Bill Dodd unveiled legislation Thursday that would pave the way for California to take out an insurance policy for disasters, including the devastating wildfires that have ripped through numerous communities in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It works just like your home insurance but for our actual state. You pay a premium each year, and we are protected,\" Lara said. \"If a disaster strikes, once you cover the deductible, the plan pays you back for your losses.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd noted that California spent $947 million fighting wildfires over the fiscal year that ended last July — $450 million more than state leaders budgeted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He argued that letting an insurance company carry more risk could free up state resources for preventing wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Rising wildfire suppression costs can strain California’s financial resources and threaten cuts to critical programs,” said Sen. Dodd, D-Napa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As climate change continues to contribute to devastating infernos, we need a strategy to reduce the pressure on state and community coffers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11726439\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11726439 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-800x520.jpg\" alt=\"Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara and State Sen. Bill Dodd hold a press conference on Thursday, Feb. 14, 2019. \" width=\"800\" height=\"520\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-800x520.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-160x104.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-1020x664.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara-1200x781.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/02/DoddLara.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara, right, and state Sen. Bill Dodd hold a press conference on Thursday, Feb. 14, 2019. \u003ccite>(Marisa Lagos/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The proposal wouldn’t require the state to take out an insurance policy, but would authorize the governor, insurance commissioner and treasurer to explore the possibility. Similar programs have been embraced by the state of Oregon and the Federal Emergency Management Agency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At least one large insurance group said it would back the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Insurers understand the need for new products and strategies to finance the mitigation and recovery from these unprecedented wildfires,\" Armand Feliciano, vice president for the American Property Casualty Insurance Association, said in a written statement. \"We look forward to working with the legislature and statewide elected officials to consider and develop innovative ways to prevent and fight future wildfires. “\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11726354/after-years-of-busting-its-firefighting-budget-should-california-get-disaster-insurance","authors":["3239"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21595","news_22178","news_255","news_18159","news_24336","news_22316","news_4463"],"featImg":"news_11726436","label":"news_72"},"news_11660005":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11660005","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11660005","score":null,"sort":[1523516501000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"facing-widespread-opposition-lawmaker-ends-effort-to-increase-refinery-penalties","title":"Facing Widespread Opposition, Lawmaker Ends Effort to Increase Refinery Penalties","publishDate":1523516501,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>State Sen. Bill Dodd, D-Napa, is dropping a bill that would have tripled fines for refineries that violate air quality laws amid opposition from the oil industry, at least two Bay Area mayors, the region's air regulators and environmentalists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd's proposal was prompted by recent incidents at Benicia's \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11630350/benicia-still-looking-for-answers-from-valero-six-months-after-refinery-outage\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Valero\u003c/a> refinery and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11347210/under-pressure-air-district-says-its-still-investigating-vallejo-fumes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Phillips 66\u003c/a> in Rodeo that led to large pollution releases, illnesses, evacuations and shelter-in-place orders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He introduced the bill in February but it quickly drew criticism from local officials, who said it was too weak, and opposition from the Western States Petroleum Association, which represents the state's major oil companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The legislation was pulled before it was even heard in \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billHistoryClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB1144\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">committee\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I knew the refineries would not be supporting this bill. I didn't expect that the communities that were in the area and the air board would not support it either,\" Dodd said in an interview.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd said he thought his proposal was a common-sense compromise that could win legislative approval and make its way through the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Frankly, I was trying to thread the needle in a space that I thought was fair,\" Dodd said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, air regulators like the Bay Area Air Quality Management District can hand down fines of up to $10,000 a day when a refinery releases pollutants that violate air quality standards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Environmentalists, local elected officials and the air district have complained that the penalty is barely pocket change for companies like San Ramon-based \u003ca href=\"https://chevroncorp.gcs-web.com/static-files/ceb2ee1f-8f99-4cb1-a40a-da8f8a92b685\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chevron, which earned more than $9 billion in 2017\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd's bill would have increased those penalties to as much as $30,000 a day. For less common but more severe violations, including those when refineries are found to be negligent or engage in \"willful and intentional\" acts that break regulations, penalties would have risen to as high as $250,000 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill's death marks the second time in the last five years an effort to raise penalties for serious oil facility violations has failed in the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2013, on the heels of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.csb.gov/chevron-refinery-fire/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">major fire\u003c/a> at Chevron's Richmond refinery, then-state Sen. Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley, introduced similar legislation. It was approved by the state Senate but failed on the Assembly floor amid opposition from the energy industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Western States Petroleum Association opposed Dodd's bill, too, but a spokesman for the industry group declined requests for a comment on why.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since 2015, the association and its member companies have donated close to $26 million to political action committees and the campaigns of current state legislators, according to an analysis of campaign finance data from the California Secretary of State's Office by MapLight, an organization that studies the influence of money in politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Dodd said it wasn't the oil industry's influence that led to the legislation's demise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't think the refineries being against it caused this to happen,\" he said. \"It was the fact that there was nobody else, no significant support, on the other side.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The mayors of Benicia and Richmond, home to the Valero and Chevron refineries, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11656859\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said the bill was not strong enough\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Benicia Mayor Elizabeth Patterson expressed disappointment that Dodd did not amend the bill after she and Richmond Mayor Tom Butt called for it to be strengthened.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The fines, even if tripled, aren't proportional to the cost of the event,\" Patterson said, adding that Dodd should have gathered more support for the bill in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It never had grass-roots support,\" Patterson said. \"There wasn't an outreach to the affected communities.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Patterson had wanted funds from the fines to be directed to communities hurt by refinery malfunctions. Valero's power outage last May not only led to the release of a large amount of pollution, but also forced Benicia's city government to spend hours handling an emergency and led to evacuations and shelter-in-place orders, among other problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We got a pretty lousy image ... with a lot of black smoke,\" Patterson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Bay Area Air Quality Management District also wanted the fine amounts to be higher than those Dodd proposed. The agency's board of directors voted last week to push for amendments to the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Environmentalists also felt the bill was weak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hollin Kretzmann, at the Center for Biological Diversity, said the proposal was a good step but should have been stronger. State lawmakers, though, need to act, Kretzmann said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"California legislators need to end these political games and get serious about protecting our air and climate,\" Kretzmann said. \"Every day they fail to act, communities near these dirty refineries pay the price with their health and safety.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Measure would have tripled fines for oil refiners who violate air quality regulations. Many local officials wanted even higher penalties. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1523552939,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":28,"wordCount":795},"headData":{"title":"Facing Widespread Opposition, Lawmaker Ends Effort to Increase Refinery Penalties | KQED","description":"Measure would have tripled fines for oil refiners who violate air quality regulations. Many local officials wanted even higher penalties. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11660005 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11660005","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/04/12/facing-widespread-opposition-lawmaker-ends-effort-to-increase-refinery-penalties/","disqusTitle":"Facing Widespread Opposition, Lawmaker Ends Effort to Increase Refinery Penalties","path":"/news/11660005/facing-widespread-opposition-lawmaker-ends-effort-to-increase-refinery-penalties","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>State Sen. Bill Dodd, D-Napa, is dropping a bill that would have tripled fines for refineries that violate air quality laws amid opposition from the oil industry, at least two Bay Area mayors, the region's air regulators and environmentalists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd's proposal was prompted by recent incidents at Benicia's \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11630350/benicia-still-looking-for-answers-from-valero-six-months-after-refinery-outage\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Valero\u003c/a> refinery and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11347210/under-pressure-air-district-says-its-still-investigating-vallejo-fumes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Phillips 66\u003c/a> in Rodeo that led to large pollution releases, illnesses, evacuations and shelter-in-place orders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He introduced the bill in February but it quickly drew criticism from local officials, who said it was too weak, and opposition from the Western States Petroleum Association, which represents the state's major oil companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The legislation was pulled before it was even heard in \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billHistoryClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB1144\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">committee\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I knew the refineries would not be supporting this bill. I didn't expect that the communities that were in the area and the air board would not support it either,\" Dodd said in an interview.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd said he thought his proposal was a common-sense compromise that could win legislative approval and make its way through the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Frankly, I was trying to thread the needle in a space that I thought was fair,\" Dodd said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, air regulators like the Bay Area Air Quality Management District can hand down fines of up to $10,000 a day when a refinery releases pollutants that violate air quality standards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Environmentalists, local elected officials and the air district have complained that the penalty is barely pocket change for companies like San Ramon-based \u003ca href=\"https://chevroncorp.gcs-web.com/static-files/ceb2ee1f-8f99-4cb1-a40a-da8f8a92b685\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chevron, which earned more than $9 billion in 2017\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd's bill would have increased those penalties to as much as $30,000 a day. For less common but more severe violations, including those when refineries are found to be negligent or engage in \"willful and intentional\" acts that break regulations, penalties would have risen to as high as $250,000 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill's death marks the second time in the last five years an effort to raise penalties for serious oil facility violations has failed in the Legislature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2013, on the heels of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.csb.gov/chevron-refinery-fire/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">major fire\u003c/a> at Chevron's Richmond refinery, then-state Sen. Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley, introduced similar legislation. It was approved by the state Senate but failed on the Assembly floor amid opposition from the energy industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Western States Petroleum Association opposed Dodd's bill, too, but a spokesman for the industry group declined requests for a comment on why.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since 2015, the association and its member companies have donated close to $26 million to political action committees and the campaigns of current state legislators, according to an analysis of campaign finance data from the California Secretary of State's Office by MapLight, an organization that studies the influence of money in politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Dodd said it wasn't the oil industry's influence that led to the legislation's demise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't think the refineries being against it caused this to happen,\" he said. \"It was the fact that there was nobody else, no significant support, on the other side.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The mayors of Benicia and Richmond, home to the Valero and Chevron refineries, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11656859\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said the bill was not strong enough\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Benicia Mayor Elizabeth Patterson expressed disappointment that Dodd did not amend the bill after she and Richmond Mayor Tom Butt called for it to be strengthened.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The fines, even if tripled, aren't proportional to the cost of the event,\" Patterson said, adding that Dodd should have gathered more support for the bill in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It never had grass-roots support,\" Patterson said. \"There wasn't an outreach to the affected communities.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Patterson had wanted funds from the fines to be directed to communities hurt by refinery malfunctions. Valero's power outage last May not only led to the release of a large amount of pollution, but also forced Benicia's city government to spend hours handling an emergency and led to evacuations and shelter-in-place orders, among other problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We got a pretty lousy image ... with a lot of black smoke,\" Patterson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Bay Area Air Quality Management District also wanted the fine amounts to be higher than those Dodd proposed. The agency's board of directors voted last week to push for amendments to the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Environmentalists also felt the bill was weak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hollin Kretzmann, at the Center for Biological Diversity, said the proposal was a good step but should have been stronger. State lawmakers, though, need to act, Kretzmann said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"California legislators need to end these political games and get serious about protecting our air and climate,\" Kretzmann said. \"Every day they fail to act, communities near these dirty refineries pay the price with their health and safety.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11660005/facing-widespread-opposition-lawmaker-ends-effort-to-increase-refinery-penalties","authors":["258"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_13","news_356"],"tags":["news_21595","news_19542","news_21107"],"featImg":"news_11505717","label":"news_72"},"news_11649505":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11649505","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11649505","score":null,"sort":[1518681663000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"state-senate-bill-would-triple-penalties-for-refinery-air-violations","title":"State Senate Bill Would Triple Penalties for Refinery Air Violations","publishDate":1518681663,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>State Sen. Bill Dodd, D-Napa, wants to triple some of the most serious penalties local air districts can levy against oil companies when their refineries violate emissions regulations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd, who represents a district that's home to refineries owned by Shell, Tesoro and Valero, introduced legislation on Wednesday that would raise the limits on certain fines for the first time in decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The reality is, oil refineries are still part of our transportation system and the bottom line is, we have to be as safe as possible,\" Dodd said in an interview. \"The fines ought to be commensurate with the actions, or lack of actions, taken by the refineries.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd says his bill, \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB1144\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SB 1144\u003c/a>, was prompted largely by two recent refinery incidents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last May, a power outage at Valero's Benicia refinery led to the \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/11/14/benicia-still-looking-for-answers-from-valero-six-months-after-refinery-outage/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">release\u003c/a> of more than 80,000 pounds of sulfur dioxide, resulting in evacuation and shelter-in-place orders for nearby residents. In late 2016, an oil spill at the Phillips 66 refinery in Rodeo \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/03/09/under-pressure-air-district-says-its-still-investigating-vallejo-fumes/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sickened dozens of Vallejo residents\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, the maximum fine against an oil company found liable for violating air quality rules is $10,000 a day, an amount critics have described as pocket change for the energy industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd's bill would raise that to as much as $30,000 a day in cases where a refinery or power plant accident injures at least one person or impacts at least 25 people -- for instance, in an incident that leads to a shelter-in-place order.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oil refiners that are found negligent would see fines go from a maximum of $25,000 to as much as $75,000 per day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In rare cases, when a refinery knows about a violation but fails to correct it in a reasonable time, current law calls for a fine of up to $40,000 a day. The bill would raise the maximum to $125,000 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In cases where an energy company intentionally violates an emissions rule, maximum fines would jump from $75,000 to $250,000 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Penalties would also increase to as much as $500,000 a day for refineries responsible for the same serious violation within three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Environmentalists and local air regulators agree that the current penalties are not high enough to provide a financial incentive for the industry to avoid serious violations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Contra Costa County Supervisor John Gioia, who represents an area that's home to Richmond's Chevron refinery, says Dodd's proposal doesn't go far enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We've had far too many chemical and refinery releases over the years and we need a higher penalty to provide even greater incentive for these companies to work even harder,\" said Gioia, who is a board member at the Bay Area Air Quality Management District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We would welcome the opportunity to work with Sen. Dodd to strengthen the bill so that it does truly have a meaningful impact on these facilities and protect public health,\" Gioia said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The air district has sponsored previous legislative efforts to raise the fines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example in 2013, on the heels of a major fire at Richmond's Chevron facility, then state Sen. Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley, introduced legislation to raise the penalties higher than what Dodd is proposing. Under Hancock's measure, the maximum fine against a refinery found liable for a violation would rise to $100,000 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That bill was approved by the state Senate but failed on the Assembly floor amid opposition from energy companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Fines are so low. They are merely a cost of doing business for any large corporation,\" Hancock said. \"They need to be greatly increased to provide an incentive for better safety practices.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd, who's considered a moderate, business-friendly Democrat, says he understands the power of the energy industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I do recognize that there's a huge lobby from the oil industry,\" Dodd said. \"I've gotten some very difficult bills across the finish line.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The industry group that represents the region's refineries has yet to take a position on the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are looking at Sen. Dodd's proposed legislation and how it might impact existing laws and air quality regulations,\" said Kevin Slagle, a spokesman for the Western States Petroleum Association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The safety and protection of our employees and the communities in which we operate are our members' top priority,\" Slagle said in an emailed statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The air district, which is in charge of investigating air quality violations, has long supported an increase in fines. But the agency says it won't announce whether it will back the legislation until a vote by its board of directors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The Bay Area air district has long supported efforts to reform the penalties for those who violate air quality laws,\" said Tom Addison, a senior policy adviser at the agency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are some violations for which the penalties in statute today are inadequate. When people comply with air quality regulations, public health is protected,\" Addison said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bill is expected to face its first hearing next month, before the state Senate Environmental Quality Committee.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Proposal from state Sen. Bill Dodd comes in response to incidents in Vallejo and Benicia. One local critic says fines should be even higher than those proposed in legislation. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1518745375,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":30,"wordCount":864},"headData":{"title":"State Senate Bill Would Triple Penalties for Refinery Air Violations | KQED","description":"Proposal from state Sen. Bill Dodd comes in response to incidents in Vallejo and Benicia. One local critic says fines should be even higher than those proposed in legislation. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11649505 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11649505","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/02/15/state-senate-bill-would-triple-penalties-for-refinery-air-violations/","disqusTitle":"State Senate Bill Would Triple Penalties for Refinery Air Violations","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2018/02/GoldbergRefineryFines.mp3","path":"/news/11649505/state-senate-bill-would-triple-penalties-for-refinery-air-violations","audioDuration":156000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>State Sen. 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In late 2016, an oil spill at the Phillips 66 refinery in Rodeo \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/03/09/under-pressure-air-district-says-its-still-investigating-vallejo-fumes/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sickened dozens of Vallejo residents\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, the maximum fine against an oil company found liable for violating air quality rules is $10,000 a day, an amount critics have described as pocket change for the energy industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd's bill would raise that to as much as $30,000 a day in cases where a refinery or power plant accident injures at least one person or impacts at least 25 people -- for instance, in an incident that leads to a shelter-in-place order.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oil refiners that are found negligent would see fines go from a maximum of $25,000 to as much as $75,000 per day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In rare cases, when a refinery knows about a violation but fails to correct it in a reasonable time, current law calls for a fine of up to $40,000 a day. The bill would raise the maximum to $125,000 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In cases where an energy company intentionally violates an emissions rule, maximum fines would jump from $75,000 to $250,000 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Penalties would also increase to as much as $500,000 a day for refineries responsible for the same serious violation within three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Environmentalists and local air regulators agree that the current penalties are not high enough to provide a financial incentive for the industry to avoid serious violations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Contra Costa County Supervisor John Gioia, who represents an area that's home to Richmond's Chevron refinery, says Dodd's proposal doesn't go far enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We've had far too many chemical and refinery releases over the years and we need a higher penalty to provide even greater incentive for these companies to work even harder,\" said Gioia, who is a board member at the Bay Area Air Quality Management District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We would welcome the opportunity to work with Sen. Dodd to strengthen the bill so that it does truly have a meaningful impact on these facilities and protect public health,\" Gioia said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The air district has sponsored previous legislative efforts to raise the fines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example in 2013, on the heels of a major fire at Richmond's Chevron facility, then state Sen. Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley, introduced legislation to raise the penalties higher than what Dodd is proposing. Under Hancock's measure, the maximum fine against a refinery found liable for a violation would rise to $100,000 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That bill was approved by the state Senate but failed on the Assembly floor amid opposition from energy companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Fines are so low. They are merely a cost of doing business for any large corporation,\" Hancock said. \"They need to be greatly increased to provide an incentive for better safety practices.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dodd, who's considered a moderate, business-friendly Democrat, says he understands the power of the energy industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I do recognize that there's a huge lobby from the oil industry,\" Dodd said. \"I've gotten some very difficult bills across the finish line.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The industry group that represents the region's refineries has yet to take a position on the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are looking at Sen. 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Jerry Brown's Delta tunnel plan are stepping up calls for greater transparency into the project's finances, as the proposed water delivery system suffered a \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/science/2017/10/25/trump-opposes-californias-enormous-water-tunnels-project/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">series of setbacks\u003c/a> this fall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a Thursday town hall in the Delta town of Walnut Grove, lawmakers representing the region called on the Brown administration to drop the tunnel plan in the absence of greater cost certainty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It just seems like you’ve moved this project ahead, not knowing if it’s affordable,\" Assemblyman Jim Frazier, D-Discovery Bay, said to state water officials. \"What happens if it’s not?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The proposed $17 billion project -- dubbed the Water Fix -- would send water from the Sacramento River south through two giant underground tunnels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Brown administration has pushed the tunnels as a way to make the state's water supply more reliable. Central Valley farms and households from the Bay Area to Southern California rely on water from the Delta. The current pumps that draw water from the Delta have threatened local fish, which has forced regulators to slow down water deliveries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Opponents, including many in the Delta region, say the tunnels could harm local water quality and wildlife.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Local water agencies will be asked to fund the project, but two districts have recently rejected the twin tunnel idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In September, the powerful Westlands Water District, which provides water to major Central Valley farms, \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/09/19/key-california-farm-district-rejects-governors-delta-tunnels-plan/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">voted against participating\u003c/a> in the project. The Santa Clara Valley Water District followed with a decision to \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/17/santa-clara-valley-water-district-rejects-jerry-browns-twin-delta-tunnels-plan/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">support only\u003c/a> a one-tunnel approach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"5N5Z9200Dakfnapkdf9QwyUXDz832DNg\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both districts expressed concerns over the cost of the massive tunnels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/science/2017/10/05/california-tunnels-get-scathing-audit/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">state audit \u003c/a>in October found that the state Department of Water Resources did not complete \"either an economic or a financial analysis to demonstrate the financial viability\" of the project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the meeting on Thursday, state water officials said they can't put together an analysis without knowing which districts are pitching in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's the critical piece of the puzzle that we need to complete the two analyses, financial and economic,\" said Cindy Messer, chief deputy director of the State Department of Water Resources.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pressed by Sen. 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Central Valley farms and households from the Bay Area to Southern California rely on water from the Delta. The current pumps that draw water from the Delta have threatened local fish, which has forced regulators to slow down water deliveries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Opponents, including many in the Delta region, say the tunnels could harm local water quality and wildlife.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Local water agencies will be asked to fund the project, but two districts have recently rejected the twin tunnel idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In September, the powerful Westlands Water District, which provides water to major Central Valley farms, \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/09/19/key-california-farm-district-rejects-governors-delta-tunnels-plan/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">voted against participating\u003c/a> in the project. The Santa Clara Valley Water District followed with a decision to \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/17/santa-clara-valley-water-district-rejects-jerry-browns-twin-delta-tunnels-plan/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">support only\u003c/a> a one-tunnel approach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both districts expressed concerns over the cost of the massive tunnels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/science/2017/10/05/california-tunnels-get-scathing-audit/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">state audit \u003c/a>in October found that the state Department of Water Resources did not complete \"either an economic or a financial analysis to demonstrate the financial viability\" of the project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the meeting on Thursday, state water officials said they can't put together an analysis without knowing which districts are pitching in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's the critical piece of the puzzle that we need to complete the two analyses, financial and economic,\" said Cindy Messer, chief deputy director of the State Department of Water Resources.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pressed by Sen. 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