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Manfred did tell Sirius XM radio host Christopher Russo that although Schaaf had done a great job in advocating for the waterfront project at Howard Terminal, he was “not optimistic” about it. But later in the interview, Manfred qualified those remarks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What I said was — and I stand by it — given the lack of pace in Oakland, the lack of certainty, they have to be looking at Las Vegas,” Manfred said. “They need an alternative, 'cause they can't continue to play in the facility they're in.” [aside postID=\"news_11881816\"]That facility, the Oakland Coliseum, has been the home of the A’s since they came west in 1968. At 57,682 seats, it’s too large for modern tastes — and problems like recurring drainage issues because the field is located below sea level would be prohibitively expensive to fix.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the past 20 years, the A’s have eyed locations in Fremont and San José as well as other Oakland sites, before unveiling an ambitious plan in 2017 for the $12 billion \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11881816/oakland-city-council-approves-amended-terms-for-as-howard-terminal-ballpark-plan-and-no-one-seems-happy-about-it\">Howard Terminal development\u003c/a> on the waterfront north of Jack London Square.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The A's declined to comment on Manfred’s remarks Saturday. But the commissioner’s statement is consistent with what A’s president Dave Kaval has been saying since early in the 2021 season, that the team is pursuing \"parallel paths\" in Oakland and Las Vegas. However, the team has not announced a Vegas location or released any renderings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaaf, in her statement, said the fact that the A's continue to invest a lot of time and money in the Oakland ballpark proposal, including litigation with Port of Oakland trucking interests and reimbursing the city for work its staff are doing in project development, shows they are serious about staying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are working together every day to realize our shared vision for a vibrant waterfront neighborhood with public parks, good jobs, affordable housing and an iconic home for our Oakland A's,” Schaaf wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most likely candidates to replace Schaaf as mayor — Loren Taylor, Sheng Thao, Treva Reid and Ignacio De La Fuente — all support the Howard Terminal development if the city can reach acceptable terms with the A’s. Although the ballpark and the rest of the development are privately financed, the A’s are seeking the city’s financial help with infrastructure in the area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf says the city continues to work on a deal with the A's for a waterfront ballpark, and she's 'absolutely confident' it will get done next year, even after she leaves office.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1667324855,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":10,"wordCount":536},"headData":{"title":"Oakland Mayor Downplays Rumors A's Are Leaving Town | KQED","description":"Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf says the city continues to work on a deal with the A's for a waterfront ballpark, and she's 'absolutely confident' it will get done next year, even after she leaves office.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Oakland Mayor Downplays Rumors A's Are Leaving Town","datePublished":"2022-10-30T19:42:53.000Z","dateModified":"2022-11-01T17:47:35.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11930594 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11930594","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2022/10/30/oakland-mayor-downplays-rumors-as-are-leaving-town/","disqusTitle":"Oakland Mayor Downplays Rumors A's Are Leaving Town","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11930594/oakland-mayor-downplays-rumors-as-are-leaving-town","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf says the city continues to work on a deal with the A's for a waterfront ballpark, and she's \"absolutely confident\" it will get done next year, even after she leaves office.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'We are working together every day to realize our shared vision for a vibrant waterfront neighborhood with public parks, good jobs, affordable housing and an iconic home for our Oakland A's.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Libby Schaaf, mayor of Oakland","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaaf’s statement came after several national baseball writers took to Twitter on Saturday, quoting Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred as saying he thought the A's were going to move to Las Vegas. Manfred did tell Sirius XM radio host Christopher Russo that although Schaaf had done a great job in advocating for the waterfront project at Howard Terminal, he was “not optimistic” about it. But later in the interview, Manfred qualified those remarks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What I said was — and I stand by it — given the lack of pace in Oakland, the lack of certainty, they have to be looking at Las Vegas,” Manfred said. “They need an alternative, 'cause they can't continue to play in the facility they're in.” \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11881816","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>That facility, the Oakland Coliseum, has been the home of the A’s since they came west in 1968. At 57,682 seats, it’s too large for modern tastes — and problems like recurring drainage issues because the field is located below sea level would be prohibitively expensive to fix.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the past 20 years, the A’s have eyed locations in Fremont and San José as well as other Oakland sites, before unveiling an ambitious plan in 2017 for the $12 billion \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11881816/oakland-city-council-approves-amended-terms-for-as-howard-terminal-ballpark-plan-and-no-one-seems-happy-about-it\">Howard Terminal development\u003c/a> on the waterfront north of Jack London Square.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The A's declined to comment on Manfred’s remarks Saturday. But the commissioner’s statement is consistent with what A’s president Dave Kaval has been saying since early in the 2021 season, that the team is pursuing \"parallel paths\" in Oakland and Las Vegas. However, the team has not announced a Vegas location or released any renderings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaaf, in her statement, said the fact that the A's continue to invest a lot of time and money in the Oakland ballpark proposal, including litigation with Port of Oakland trucking interests and reimbursing the city for work its staff are doing in project development, shows they are serious about staying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are working together every day to realize our shared vision for a vibrant waterfront neighborhood with public parks, good jobs, affordable housing and an iconic home for our Oakland A's,” Schaaf wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most likely candidates to replace Schaaf as mayor — Loren Taylor, Sheng Thao, Treva Reid and Ignacio De La Fuente — all support the Howard Terminal development if the city can reach acceptable terms with the A’s. Although the ballpark and the rest of the development are privately financed, the A’s are seeking the city’s financial help with infrastructure in the area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11930594/oakland-mayor-downplays-rumors-as-are-leaving-town","authors":["246"],"categories":["news_28250","news_8","news_10"],"tags":["news_17953","news_18203","news_161","news_111"],"featImg":"news_11802702","label":"news"},"news_11832073":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11832073","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11832073","score":null,"sort":[1596681079000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"as-file-suit-against-state-agency-to-regulate-steel-recycler","title":"A's File Suit Against State Agency to Regulate Oakland Steel Recycler","publishDate":1596681079,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>The Oakland A's are suing the California Department of Toxic Substances Control for failing to regulate an industrial recycling plant located next to Howard Terminal, the waterfront where \u003ca href=\"https://www.mlb.com/athletics/oakland-ballpark\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the team plans to build a new ballpark\u003c/a>. Schnitzer Steel is the largest metal shredding plant in California, and the A's say that state regulators have given the company a pass on its hazardous emissions for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Athletics President Dave Kaval said the team met with community groups like the West Oakland Environmental Indicators Project and kept hearing complaints about the plant. “23,000 West Oakland residents live within a mile of the location,\" Kaval said. \"This steel recycler generates materials that are constantly exceeding the toxicity thresholds of hazardous waste. It leaches into the soil and groundwater. It blows off site and it catches fire.\" Kaval said there have been five fires since 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.change.org/p/california-department-of-toxic-substances-control-stop-schnitzer-steels-unlawful-pollution-in-west-oakland?recruiter=877667520&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">A Change.org petition posted by the A’s\u003c/a> gained more than 1,000 signatures within eight hours of going live. [aside tag=\"pollution\" label=\"More Related Stories\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, a spokesperson for DTSC said that while the agency wouldn’t comment on pending litigation, “it is deeply committed to protecting Californians and the environment from toxic harm — particularly those who suffer from a disparate level of pollution.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oregon-based \u003ca href=\"https://www.schnitzersteel.com/\">Schnitzer Steel\u003c/a> said they've invested more than $30 million in emission control projects at the facility. Colin Kelly, the company’s director of public affairs, wrote, “Suing the state agency that regulates industrial businesses is an attempt by the A’s to distract from the lack of information and accountability they have demonstrated in their planning for a commercial real estate development at the working waterfront.\" Additionally, the facility has been serving the Oakland community for over 50 years and is \"committed to reducing emissions, saving water, conserving energy, and reducing landfill usage,” the statement said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schnitzer has allied itself with a \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastoaklandstadiumalliance.com/partners\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">group that includes maritime businesses and the International Longshore and Warehouse Union\u003c/a> in opposing the Port of Oakland’s willingness to lease the Howard Terminal site near Jack London Square to the A’s. Former ILWU official Clarence Thomas said as a third-generation longshore worker, he feared the attempt to regulate Schnitzer was the beginning of a process to move the Port away from the industries that have historically supported a Black working class in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We who work at the Port realize that Schnitzer is just the first domino to fall,\" Thomas said. \"If this deal goes through, there's no way that Schnitzer Steel can stay there. Who's going to be paying millions of dollars for a condominium right next door to a metal recycling plant?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Kaval, in an email to A's season ticket holders, described the suit as an attempt to support current residents of the neighborhoods bordering the Port. \"West Oakland has long dealt with unacceptably high levels of pollution, as well as elevated risks of health problems like asthma, heart disease and most recently, COVID-19. A better future is possible, and we want to be part of the solution,\" Kaval said.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Schnitzer Steel is the largest metal shredding plant in California, and the A’s say that state regulators have given the company a pass on its hazardous emissions for decades.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1596750043,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":10,"wordCount":537},"headData":{"title":"A's File Suit Against State Agency to Regulate Oakland Steel Recycler | KQED","description":"Schnitzer Steel is the largest metal shredding plant in California, and the A’s say that state regulators have given the company a pass on its hazardous emissions for decades.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"A's File Suit Against State Agency to Regulate Oakland Steel Recycler","datePublished":"2020-08-06T02:31:19.000Z","dateModified":"2020-08-06T21:40:43.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11832073 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11832073","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/08/05/as-file-suit-against-state-agency-to-regulate-steel-recycler/","disqusTitle":"A's File Suit Against State Agency to Regulate Oakland Steel Recycler","source":"News","sourceUrl":"http://kqed.org/","path":"/news/11832073/as-file-suit-against-state-agency-to-regulate-steel-recycler","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The Oakland A's are suing the California Department of Toxic Substances Control for failing to regulate an industrial recycling plant located next to Howard Terminal, the waterfront where \u003ca href=\"https://www.mlb.com/athletics/oakland-ballpark\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the team plans to build a new ballpark\u003c/a>. Schnitzer Steel is the largest metal shredding plant in California, and the A's say that state regulators have given the company a pass on its hazardous emissions for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Athletics President Dave Kaval said the team met with community groups like the West Oakland Environmental Indicators Project and kept hearing complaints about the plant. “23,000 West Oakland residents live within a mile of the location,\" Kaval said. \"This steel recycler generates materials that are constantly exceeding the toxicity thresholds of hazardous waste. It leaches into the soil and groundwater. It blows off site and it catches fire.\" Kaval said there have been five fires since 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.change.org/p/california-department-of-toxic-substances-control-stop-schnitzer-steels-unlawful-pollution-in-west-oakland?recruiter=877667520&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">A Change.org petition posted by the A’s\u003c/a> gained more than 1,000 signatures within eight hours of going live. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"pollution","label":"More Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, a spokesperson for DTSC said that while the agency wouldn’t comment on pending litigation, “it is deeply committed to protecting Californians and the environment from toxic harm — particularly those who suffer from a disparate level of pollution.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oregon-based \u003ca href=\"https://www.schnitzersteel.com/\">Schnitzer Steel\u003c/a> said they've invested more than $30 million in emission control projects at the facility. Colin Kelly, the company’s director of public affairs, wrote, “Suing the state agency that regulates industrial businesses is an attempt by the A’s to distract from the lack of information and accountability they have demonstrated in their planning for a commercial real estate development at the working waterfront.\" Additionally, the facility has been serving the Oakland community for over 50 years and is \"committed to reducing emissions, saving water, conserving energy, and reducing landfill usage,” the statement said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schnitzer has allied itself with a \u003ca href=\"https://www.eastoaklandstadiumalliance.com/partners\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">group that includes maritime businesses and the International Longshore and Warehouse Union\u003c/a> in opposing the Port of Oakland’s willingness to lease the Howard Terminal site near Jack London Square to the A’s. Former ILWU official Clarence Thomas said as a third-generation longshore worker, he feared the attempt to regulate Schnitzer was the beginning of a process to move the Port away from the industries that have historically supported a Black working class in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We who work at the Port realize that Schnitzer is just the first domino to fall,\" Thomas said. \"If this deal goes through, there's no way that Schnitzer Steel can stay there. Who's going to be paying millions of dollars for a condominium right next door to a metal recycling plant?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Kaval, in an email to A's season ticket holders, described the suit as an attempt to support current residents of the neighborhoods bordering the Port. \"West Oakland has long dealt with unacceptably high levels of pollution, as well as elevated risks of health problems like asthma, heart disease and most recently, COVID-19. A better future is possible, and we want to be part of the solution,\" Kaval said.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11832073/as-file-suit-against-state-agency-to-regulate-steel-recycler","authors":["246"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_10"],"tags":["news_17953","news_28360","news_18","news_161","news_28359","news_2045","news_28361","news_2318"],"featImg":"news_11832080","label":"source_news_11832073"},"news_11778457":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11778457","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11778457","score":null,"sort":[1570460423000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"oakland-organizers-ask-how-hard-are-the-as-working-to-keep-us-in-oakland","title":"Oakland Organizers Ask: How Hard Are the A’s Working to Keep Us in Oakland?","publishDate":1570460423,"format":"audio","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>More than 100 Oakland residents and organizers gathered at Taylor Memorial United Methodist Church in West Oakland Saturday to discuss exactly how the Oakland Athletics can help Bay Area residents that might be displaced by the team's proposed 34,000-seat waterfront ballpark at Howard Terminal near Jack London Square.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new stadium could affect residents and workers of West Oakland and Oakland’s Chinatown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking to a packed house, Jahmese Myres, deputy director of the East Bay Alliance for a Sustainable Economy — part of the Oakland United Coalition — explained the permitting timeline and the coalition’s demands. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They include living-wage jobs for local residents, affordable housing and displacement protections, investment in youth programming and a commitment to addressing environmental impact in districts that are \u003ca href=\"https://oehha.ca.gov/calenviroscreen/report/calenviroscreen-30\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">already among the most negatively impacted within the Bay Area\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's absolutely about the A’s. We love our team. We want them to stay. We’re proud that they’re rooted in Oakland,\" Myres told the crowd. \"And we want them also to be rooted in community.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myres said the coalition formed approximately five years ago when talk of the Oakland Raiders and A’s were considering new stadiums in Oakland started going around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Making an appearance, former mayoral candidate Cat Brooks told of being asked about the stadium on the campaign trail and the need for a community benefits agreement regardless of the complex’s location.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11778491\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"EBASE's Jahmese Myers addresses a crowd on Oct. 5, 2019 at a town hall regarding desired community benefits from the new Oakland A's stadium. Former mayoral candidate Kat Brooks prepares to speak. \" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11778491\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">EBASE's Jahmese Myres addresses a crowd on Oct. 5, 2019 at a town hall regarding desired community benefits from the new Oakland A's stadium. Former mayoral candidate Cat Brooks prepares to speak. \u003ccite>(Amy Mostafa/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Alma Blackwell, an Oakland born and raised organizer summarized the sentiment of the meeting when she said: “Oakland is working hard to keep the A’s in Oakland, but how hard are they working to keep us in Oakland?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Blackwell cited the significant displacement of Oakland’s black residents over the past two decades. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID='news_11742341,news_11697296' label='Related Coverage']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside the town hall, Myres emphasized the need to speed along plans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This project is moving very quickly. The A’s have a very ambitious timeline, and so we need those guarantees in writing right away,” Myres said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An A’s spokesperson said the team has already committed to addressing community requests in an agreement with the Port of Oakland. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Myres said the agreement is not specific or legally binding to actionable items. She said the coalition had been in direct contact with the team regarding community benefits back in March but are now continuing discussion with the city as mediator. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The town hall was held as plans for the new stadium continue to advance between the baseball team and state and city officials. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the same time, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11742341/alameda-county-oks-plan-to-sell-its-share-of-oakland-coliseum-complex-to-as\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">A’s plans to purchase Alameda County’s share\u003c/a> of the 155-acre property encompassing the Coliseum and Oracle Arena for $85 million was \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/athletics/article/city-oakland-alameda-county-as-baseball-coliseum-14484237.php\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">stalled by a lawsuit\u003c/a> filed on behalf of the Oakland City Council last week. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The team hopes construction on the new ballpark will begin in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A coalition of Oakland residents and workers are demanding that the A's commit to a community benefits agreement before any more progress is made on permitting for the team’s proposed waterfront ballpark. 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We love our team. We want them to stay. We’re proud that they’re rooted in Oakland,\" Myres told the crowd. \"And we want them also to be rooted in community.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myres said the coalition formed approximately five years ago when talk of the Oakland Raiders and A’s were considering new stadiums in Oakland started going around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Making an appearance, former mayoral candidate Cat Brooks told of being asked about the stadium on the campaign trail and the need for a community benefits agreement regardless of the complex’s location.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11778491\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"EBASE's Jahmese Myers addresses a crowd on Oct. 5, 2019 at a town hall regarding desired community benefits from the new Oakland A's stadium. Former mayoral candidate Kat Brooks prepares to speak. \" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11778491\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/10/Myers-1920-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">EBASE's Jahmese Myres addresses a crowd on Oct. 5, 2019 at a town hall regarding desired community benefits from the new Oakland A's stadium. Former mayoral candidate Cat Brooks prepares to speak. \u003ccite>(Amy Mostafa/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Alma Blackwell, an Oakland born and raised organizer summarized the sentiment of the meeting when she said: “Oakland is working hard to keep the A’s in Oakland, but how hard are they working to keep us in Oakland?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Blackwell cited the significant displacement of Oakland’s black residents over the past two decades. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11742341,news_11697296","label":"Related Coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside the town hall, Myres emphasized the need to speed along plans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This project is moving very quickly. The A’s have a very ambitious timeline, and so we need those guarantees in writing right away,” Myres said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An A’s spokesperson said the team has already committed to addressing community requests in an agreement with the Port of Oakland. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Myres said the agreement is not specific or legally binding to actionable items. She said the coalition had been in direct contact with the team regarding community benefits back in March but are now continuing discussion with the city as mediator. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The town hall was held as plans for the new stadium continue to advance between the baseball team and state and city officials. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the same time, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11742341/alameda-county-oks-plan-to-sell-its-share-of-oakland-coliseum-complex-to-as\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">A’s plans to purchase Alameda County’s share\u003c/a> of the 155-acre property encompassing the Coliseum and Oracle Arena for $85 million was \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/athletics/article/city-oakland-alameda-county-as-baseball-coliseum-14484237.php\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">stalled by a lawsuit\u003c/a> filed on behalf of the Oakland City Council last week. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The team hopes construction on the new ballpark will begin in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11778457/oakland-organizers-ask-how-hard-are-the-as-working-to-keep-us-in-oakland","authors":["8645"],"categories":["news_6266","news_8","news_10"],"tags":["news_17953","news_24719","news_18","news_161","news_22143"],"featImg":"news_11778489","label":"news"},"news_11695689":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11695689","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11695689","score":null,"sort":[1538523010000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"i-want-to-stop-hating-the-yankees-but-i-just-cant","title":"I Want to Stop Hating the Yankees ... But I Just Can't","publishDate":1538523010,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>[dropcap]W[/dropcap]hen the Oakland A’s take the field against the New York Yankees on Wednesday, no one will be rooting harder for the boys in green and gold than I. No super-fan with child named after Billy Beane; no old-timer with a Rickey Henderson rookie card displayed over the mantel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hey, am I an A’s fan, or am I an A’s fan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No, I am not an A’s fan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then why am I going to be living and dying with every pitch Wednesday?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lemme tell ya a story ...\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>New York City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>October, \u003ci>2001\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Couldn’t have been more than 20 people on the flight over from San Francisco, and despite the poor turnout, you’ve never seen so many \u003cem>weather eyes\u003c/em> cast up and down the aisle. My parents live in downtown Manhattan, just a medium walk away from the \u003cem>thing\u003c/em> itself. Invisible plumes of \u003cem>whatever\u003c/em> — you try not to think about it — snake their way through city streets, waft along the avenues, keep you company on cab rides. Inevitably, they find their way to your nostrils, and you get a nice big whiff of hell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Each time I wade out into that acrid soup, I look up and south. You know, maybe catch a glimpse of some smoking ruins or something. But there \u003cem>aren't\u003c/em> any smoking ruins, because somebody has Photoshopped the skyline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So the city got its two front teeth knocked out, and a lot of people are dead. My dad says we gotta visit my grandfather, up on 86th and First. So we cab it, along with my uncle. Don’t mention \u003cem>what happened\u003c/em>, my dad says. Sure, I think. I mean, the old man, what is he, 91, 92? Lived through two world wars, the Great Depression, and the genuine possibility of nuclear annihilation. Enough already, yes?\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">My family, of course, hates the Yankees. Not just hates. \u003cstrong>Hates, despises, loathes.\u003c/strong>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>How I’m gonna get through this visit, I don’t know. But thank god for baseball.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In matters of war and peace, there's not much intergenerational accord in our clan. But at least we agree on one thing. This here’s a \u003cem>National League\u003c/em> family. That unbroken line of devotion, from my grandfather’s New York Giants to his sons’ Giants \u003cem>and\u003c/em> Dodgers (\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T0drh8i4Tw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1951\u003c/a> was brutal according to family lore) to the entire family’s last, best hope in the form of the New York Mets (please, don’t get me started).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This legacy, passed down from father to son, then repeat, has always provided the nearest thing to a bond among the remaining living branches on our family tree.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And soon, we will have the World Series. This year, in 2001, the Senior Circuit will offer up the Arizona Diamondbacks as annual sacrifice to that hungry behemoth of the opposing league.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My family, of course, hates the Yankees. Not just hates. \u003cem>Hates, despises, loathes\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why? As a kid, I once put the question to my father, who looked at me like I'd asked why we don't have candy for breakfast. Pressed, he finally spit out, with maximum venom: \"They never gave anyone else a chance to win!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11696083\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11696083\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-800x587.jpg\" alt=\"An Oakland A's cap sits next to a Yankee Hater's cap (yes, they exist) on the author's kitchen table.\" width=\"800\" height=\"587\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-800x587.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-160x117.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-1020x749.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-1200x881.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-1180x866.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-960x705.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-240x176.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-375x275.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-520x382.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An Oakland A's cap sits next to a Yankee Hater's cap (yes, they exist) on the author's kitchen table. \u003ccite>(Jon Brooks/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Even as a child, this struck me as hypocritical, considering the zero-sum attitude my dad applied to all other areas in life. But the Yankees' renaissance during my 1970s childhood only seemed to prove him correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back then, Yankee owner George Steinbrenner was stockpiling superstars, while my Mets felt it fiscally prudent to divest themselves of anyone who might help them, you know, \u003cem>win\u003c/em>. Because my 12-year-old's interpretation of how the world worked included loserdom by association with your favorite team, my resentment of the Yankees grew. (One of my least cherished memories is attending as a fifth columnist the 1976 Yankees-Royals playoff game at which Chris Chambliss hit a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS6HGwoRrkY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">walk-off home run\u003c/a> to send New York to the World Series. While my 55,000 ecstatic city brethren whooped it up, I sat stonefaced, dissociating among the handslaps and hugs.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And now — this is 2001 — we were in the midst of another Yankee run. The team had won three straight championships, the last over the Mets. The fear among the greater community of Yankee haters was that this juggernaut would never \u003cem>lose\u003c/em> again. Not only did they have the best team, the best manager and the most money, they also had, so it is said, something called “\u003ca href=\"https://www.google.com/search?q=%22yankee+mystique\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Yankee mystique\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What that is, I can't quite articulate, but with all due respect to rationality, it must be feared. Why? Because 27 World Series wins say so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sometimes, like an avenging angel, Yankee mystique swoops down upon opposing players (\u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/15/sports/baseball/mickey-owen-dies-at-89-allowed-fateful-passed-ball.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mickey Owen\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-35ghwAw90&ab_channel=MLB\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pedro Martinez\u003c/a>) and sometimes, as Guardian of the Realm, it bestows swift shots of grace upon the Yankees themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That fall, A's fans saw the phenomenon firsthand in the avatar of \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApoJk9X7Vto&ab_channel=MLB\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Derek Jeter\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApoJk9X7Vto&ab_channel=MLB\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For me, Yankee mystique manifests as a creeping foreboding, that no matter what the situation on the scoreboard or the standings, the Yankees will eventually humiliate whoever’s in their way — and their little fans, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Should their power lie dormant an inning, a season, a decade, those in the know understand, their power can be contained but never destroyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That terrible October, 17 years ago, my grandfather had lived through the entirety of the Yankees' 80-year hegemony. He knew the scope of the problem as well as anyone, and I wanted to hear him voice it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The World Series is coming up, \" I say to him. \"Diamondbacks-Yankees ...”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He hasn't uttered 10 words all visit — he is not going to live much longer, and in fact, this is the last time I will see him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He nods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m rooting for the Yankees,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I blink. My uncle gasps. My father, head hater of us all, wrinkles his face as if trying to screw it off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The New York team,” my grandfather calmly explains. “I'm rooting for the New York team...\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And \u003cem>that's\u003c/em> when it hit me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sept. 11.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It changed \u003cem>everything\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My grandfather’s confession had scandalized his offspring. After the visit, on the elevator down, my uncle puts it into perspective in the most tasteless way possible:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wouldn’t root for the Yankees if they were playing the Berlin Nazis.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So there you have it. Hey, listen, I'm not glowing with pride here. The Yankees lost that World Series, and, as always, I rooted against them — hard. Even in that time of great crisis, with my disfigured, traumatized hometown in dire need of a victory, I could not rise above my own petty feud with the team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here in 2018, I understand my grandfather had it right. I mean, this sort of unrestrained \u003ci>tribalism\u003c/i> — haven't we used it, perhaps, as trial run for the more consequential divisions in our current politics?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But maybe you have to be as old as my grandfather to finally understand that. Or maybe the Greatest Generation couldn't help but do what times demand. Or maybe he was just a better man than I.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because basically, I remain an unreconstructed Yankee hater. Call it habit, call it stubbornness. Though it’s no way to live, I continue to view any Yankee resurgence like a harbinger of the coming collapse of Western civilization, even while \u003cem>genuine\u003c/em> harbingers render the notion ridiculous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what can I do, but lean into it? While it's been nine years since the team has prevailed, one must stay vigilant, mustn't one? While this year's mighty Red Sox have made a perfectly terrific Yankee season look like second prize in a beauty contest, the Yankees have closed out the season by taking 3 of 4 from their archrivals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once again, I feel that the barbarians are at the gate, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I want to stop hating the Yankees, but I just can't.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>C'mon, A's! We need to nip this thing in the bud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"When the Oakland A’s take the field against the New York Yankees on Wednesday, no one will be rooting harder for the boys in green and gold than this anti-Yankees fan.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1538549619,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":47,"wordCount":1435},"headData":{"title":"I Want to Stop Hating the Yankees ... But I Just Can't | KQED","description":"When the Oakland A’s take the field against the New York Yankees on Wednesday, no one will be rooting harder for the boys in green and gold than this anti-Yankees fan.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"I Want to Stop Hating the Yankees ... 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But I Just Can't","path":"/news/11695689/i-want-to-stop-hating-the-yankees-but-i-just-cant","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">W\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>hen the Oakland A’s take the field against the New York Yankees on Wednesday, no one will be rooting harder for the boys in green and gold than I. No super-fan with child named after Billy Beane; no old-timer with a Rickey Henderson rookie card displayed over the mantel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hey, am I an A’s fan, or am I an A’s fan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No, I am not an A’s fan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then why am I going to be living and dying with every pitch Wednesday?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lemme tell ya a story ...\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>New York City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>October, \u003ci>2001\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Couldn’t have been more than 20 people on the flight over from San Francisco, and despite the poor turnout, you’ve never seen so many \u003cem>weather eyes\u003c/em> cast up and down the aisle. My parents live in downtown Manhattan, just a medium walk away from the \u003cem>thing\u003c/em> itself. Invisible plumes of \u003cem>whatever\u003c/em> — you try not to think about it — snake their way through city streets, waft along the avenues, keep you company on cab rides. Inevitably, they find their way to your nostrils, and you get a nice big whiff of hell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Each time I wade out into that acrid soup, I look up and south. You know, maybe catch a glimpse of some smoking ruins or something. But there \u003cem>aren't\u003c/em> any smoking ruins, because somebody has Photoshopped the skyline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So the city got its two front teeth knocked out, and a lot of people are dead. My dad says we gotta visit my grandfather, up on 86th and First. So we cab it, along with my uncle. Don’t mention \u003cem>what happened\u003c/em>, my dad says. Sure, I think. I mean, the old man, what is he, 91, 92? Lived through two world wars, the Great Depression, and the genuine possibility of nuclear annihilation. Enough already, yes?\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">My family, of course, hates the Yankees. Not just hates. \u003cstrong>Hates, despises, loathes.\u003c/strong>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>How I’m gonna get through this visit, I don’t know. But thank god for baseball.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In matters of war and peace, there's not much intergenerational accord in our clan. But at least we agree on one thing. This here’s a \u003cem>National League\u003c/em> family. That unbroken line of devotion, from my grandfather’s New York Giants to his sons’ Giants \u003cem>and\u003c/em> Dodgers (\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T0drh8i4Tw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1951\u003c/a> was brutal according to family lore) to the entire family’s last, best hope in the form of the New York Mets (please, don’t get me started).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This legacy, passed down from father to son, then repeat, has always provided the nearest thing to a bond among the remaining living branches on our family tree.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And soon, we will have the World Series. This year, in 2001, the Senior Circuit will offer up the Arizona Diamondbacks as annual sacrifice to that hungry behemoth of the opposing league.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My family, of course, hates the Yankees. Not just hates. \u003cem>Hates, despises, loathes\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Why? As a kid, I once put the question to my father, who looked at me like I'd asked why we don't have candy for breakfast. Pressed, he finally spit out, with maximum venom: \"They never gave anyone else a chance to win!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11696083\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11696083\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-800x587.jpg\" alt=\"An Oakland A's cap sits next to a Yankee Hater's cap (yes, they exist) on the author's kitchen table.\" width=\"800\" height=\"587\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-800x587.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-160x117.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-1020x749.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-1200x881.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-1180x866.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-960x705.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-240x176.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-375x275.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/AsVAntiYanksCaps-520x382.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An Oakland A's cap sits next to a Yankee Hater's cap (yes, they exist) on the author's kitchen table. \u003ccite>(Jon Brooks/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Even as a child, this struck me as hypocritical, considering the zero-sum attitude my dad applied to all other areas in life. But the Yankees' renaissance during my 1970s childhood only seemed to prove him correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back then, Yankee owner George Steinbrenner was stockpiling superstars, while my Mets felt it fiscally prudent to divest themselves of anyone who might help them, you know, \u003cem>win\u003c/em>. Because my 12-year-old's interpretation of how the world worked included loserdom by association with your favorite team, my resentment of the Yankees grew. (One of my least cherished memories is attending as a fifth columnist the 1976 Yankees-Royals playoff game at which Chris Chambliss hit a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS6HGwoRrkY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">walk-off home run\u003c/a> to send New York to the World Series. While my 55,000 ecstatic city brethren whooped it up, I sat stonefaced, dissociating among the handslaps and hugs.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And now — this is 2001 — we were in the midst of another Yankee run. The team had won three straight championships, the last over the Mets. The fear among the greater community of Yankee haters was that this juggernaut would never \u003cem>lose\u003c/em> again. Not only did they have the best team, the best manager and the most money, they also had, so it is said, something called “\u003ca href=\"https://www.google.com/search?q=%22yankee+mystique\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Yankee mystique\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What that is, I can't quite articulate, but with all due respect to rationality, it must be feared. Why? Because 27 World Series wins say so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sometimes, like an avenging angel, Yankee mystique swoops down upon opposing players (\u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/15/sports/baseball/mickey-owen-dies-at-89-allowed-fateful-passed-ball.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mickey Owen\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-35ghwAw90&ab_channel=MLB\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pedro Martinez\u003c/a>) and sometimes, as Guardian of the Realm, it bestows swift shots of grace upon the Yankees themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That fall, A's fans saw the phenomenon firsthand in the avatar of \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApoJk9X7Vto&ab_channel=MLB\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Derek Jeter\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/ApoJk9X7Vto'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/ApoJk9X7Vto'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>For me, Yankee mystique manifests as a creeping foreboding, that no matter what the situation on the scoreboard or the standings, the Yankees will eventually humiliate whoever’s in their way — and their little fans, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Should their power lie dormant an inning, a season, a decade, those in the know understand, their power can be contained but never destroyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That terrible October, 17 years ago, my grandfather had lived through the entirety of the Yankees' 80-year hegemony. He knew the scope of the problem as well as anyone, and I wanted to hear him voice it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The World Series is coming up, \" I say to him. \"Diamondbacks-Yankees ...”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He hasn't uttered 10 words all visit — he is not going to live much longer, and in fact, this is the last time I will see him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He nods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m rooting for the Yankees,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I blink. My uncle gasps. My father, head hater of us all, wrinkles his face as if trying to screw it off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The New York team,” my grandfather calmly explains. “I'm rooting for the New York team...\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And \u003cem>that's\u003c/em> when it hit me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sept. 11.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It changed \u003cem>everything\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My grandfather’s confession had scandalized his offspring. After the visit, on the elevator down, my uncle puts it into perspective in the most tasteless way possible:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wouldn’t root for the Yankees if they were playing the Berlin Nazis.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So there you have it. Hey, listen, I'm not glowing with pride here. The Yankees lost that World Series, and, as always, I rooted against them — hard. Even in that time of great crisis, with my disfigured, traumatized hometown in dire need of a victory, I could not rise above my own petty feud with the team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here in 2018, I understand my grandfather had it right. I mean, this sort of unrestrained \u003ci>tribalism\u003c/i> — haven't we used it, perhaps, as trial run for the more consequential divisions in our current politics?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But maybe you have to be as old as my grandfather to finally understand that. Or maybe the Greatest Generation couldn't help but do what times demand. Or maybe he was just a better man than I.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because basically, I remain an unreconstructed Yankee hater. Call it habit, call it stubbornness. Though it’s no way to live, I continue to view any Yankee resurgence like a harbinger of the coming collapse of Western civilization, even while \u003cem>genuine\u003c/em> harbingers render the notion ridiculous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what can I do, but lean into it? While it's been nine years since the team has prevailed, one must stay vigilant, mustn't one? While this year's mighty Red Sox have made a perfectly terrific Yankee season look like second prize in a beauty contest, the Yankees have closed out the season by taking 3 of 4 from their archrivals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once again, I feel that the barbarians are at the gate, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I want to stop hating the Yankees, but I just can't.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>C'mon, A's! We need to nip this thing in the bud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11695689/i-want-to-stop-hating-the-yankees-but-i-just-cant","authors":["80"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_223","news_8","news_10"],"tags":["news_17953","news_18203","news_161","news_1844"],"featImg":"news_11696158","label":"news_72"},"news_10608660":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10608660","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10608660","score":null,"sort":[1492066903000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-wave-was-born-in-oakland-and-some-giants-fans-want-it-dead","title":"Why Do Giants Fans Hate the Wave? Oakland Started It.","publishDate":1492066903,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Why Do Giants Fans Hate the Wave? Oakland Started It. | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":33523,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>KQED listener Chris Thompson is an avid A’s fan who recently found himself at a Giants game with work colleagues. He noticed fans a few rows away trying to get the wave started, but saw they were quickly booed by other Giants fans. Eventually ushers came over and told the group trying to start the wave to simmer down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thompson wrote to Bay Curious asking:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Why don’t they allow people to do the wave at Giants stadium?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>First thing we have to get cleared up right away — there is no \u003cem>official\u003c/em> policy against the wave at Giants games. It’s a self-imposed ban that has been a part of Giants fan culture for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But why? I mean, it’s\u003cem> the wave. \u003c/em>At many stadiums, it’s as much a part of baseball as hot dogs and beer.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Oakland Athletics Started It\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10608965\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-10608965 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Krazy George Henderson tells KQED listener Christopher about the very first wave. (Adam Grossberg/KQED)\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-1440x810.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-1400x787.jpg 1400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-960x540.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Krazy George Henderson tells KQED listener Chris Thompson about the very first wave. (Adam Grossberg/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Some Giants fans point back to the origins of the wave on Oct. 15, 1981, as the reason they developed a no-wave tradition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Athletics were battling the Yankees for the American League Championship, and things were not going well for Oakland. The A’s were down by two games in a best-of-five series, and were scoreless five innings into the game.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s when a professional cheerleader called \u003ca href=\"http://www.krazygeorge.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Krazy George\u003c/a> decided to unveil a cheer he’d been developing at local high school pep rallies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Watch our video of Krazy George Henderson reliving the very first wave:\u003cbr>\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://player.vimeo.com/video/134024146?title=0&byline=0\" width=\"700\" height=\"393\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_(audience)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">some dispute\u003c/a> about whether or not Krazy George’s ’81 Oakland wave was in fact the first wave in history. Other claims point to the University of Washington or international soccer matches. But if you ask Krazy George, all of those other claims were either later than October 1981, or lack the proper supporting evidence of his nationally televised wave at the Oakland Coliseum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I say, ‘I don’t \u003cem>claim\u003c/em> to have invented the wave. I DID INVENT THE WAVE.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether that’s definitive or not, the wave’s early connection to Oakland and the A’s is enough to turn some San Francisco Giants fans against it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bennett Dake came to a recent Giants game wearing a T-shirt he got in the ’80s. The back says: “Top 10 Reasons Real Fans Go to the ’Stick.” One reason? No wave.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That’s Oakland,” he says. “We’re San Francisco. It’s always been like that. We don’t do the wave here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10608966\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-10608966 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Bennett Dake shows of his "Late Night at the 'Stick" shirt from the '80s. Number 9 reads: "No Wave." (Adam Grossberg/KQED)\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-1440x810.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-1400x788.jpg 1400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-960x540.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bennett Dake shows off his ‘Late Night at the ‘Stick’ shirt from the ’80s. Number 9 reads: ‘No Wave.’ (Adam Grossberg/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>The Wave Was Associated With Los Angeles (and Thus, the Dodgers)\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Though the wave might have started in Oakland, it was broadcast internationally for the first time during the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles. Television sets across the world showed images of the crowd doing the wave at the soccer final — in many minds forever linking the cheer with that city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think the wave is seen as something really Los Angeles, and it was San Francisco reacting to that,” says \u003ca href=\"http://www.danfost.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dan Fost\u003c/a>, author of \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Dan-Fost/e/B0030CEFRE/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">two books about the Giants.\u003c/a> “[The Dodgers fan] experience is all about beating the traffic, getting to the game late, leaving early and throwing beach balls around in the stands. And the wave is just such an L.A. part of that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>It’s Too Mainstream\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>One identity trait that came up repeatedly during interviews with Giants fans was their feeling of uniqueness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Giants fans sort of think that they’re a little different, so we would never stoop to something as pedestrian as doing the wave,” says Pat Gallagher, who worked as the team’s director of marketing for nearly 33 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And let’s be honest, this identity goes beyond the baseball diamond. The San Francisco Bay Area as a whole has a long history of reveling in the ways it stands apart from the rest of America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Not doing the wave is a way of saying, ‘San Francisco is different and we don’t do that here,’ ” says Fost.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Need another example? Look no further than the \u003ca href=\"http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/sf/history/sf_history_timeline_article.jsp?article=31\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Crazy Crab\u003c/a>. At a time when baseball teams around the country were eagerly bringing cheery mascots into the mix, the Giants introduced an anti-mascot. The crustacean was a walking mascot parody, and fans were encouraged to boo, hiss and sometimes throw things at the poor schmuck stuck inside the costume.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Real Serious Fans Are Real Serious\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Beyond tradition and perception, what is it about the wave that Giants fans dislike so much?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To put it simply, some people think that “real baseball fans” don’t do it. It’s seen as yet another frivolous ballpark novelty that detracts from their beloved pastime. Right up there with the Kiss Cam.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One Giants fan we spoke with says, “It’s an obnoxious response to fan excitement. I don’t like it. I think it’s silly.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Real fans chart every pitch and obsess over fundamentals. Everyone else does the wave and eats cotton candy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Giants fans don’t do the wave because they are serious about baseball,” Fost says. “They love the game, they’re paying attention to the game, and they don’t want to take themselves out of the game.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How the Tradition is Passed On\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The Giants anti-wave philosophy is carried on as a sort of oral tradition. That is, via hearty “BOOOOOs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gallagher says that when the team played at Candlestick, you’d often hear hardcore fans boo when anyone tried to start the wave.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They weren’t booing the players, they were actually booing other fans,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It appears this tradition has made the trip from the ’Stick to AT&T Park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Giants fan Dalton Hurst had a rude awakening at one of his childhood games.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I was a kid, I tried to start [the wave] and someone yelled at me,” says Hurst. “I don’t know why they don’t do it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>But New Fans Doing The Wave?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Despite the booing, long-standing tradition and ’80s T-shirts — sacrilege — the wave has been spotted circling AT&T park recently. It may be that the team’s success is attracting new fans who just don’t know the rules yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several die-hard fans blamed these bandwagon fans, (or “hipsters,” as one Giants fan called them) for bringing this abhorred tradition into their no-wave stadium.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10608969\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 337px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-20-at-6.51.10-PM.png\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10608969\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-20-at-6.51.10-PM.png\" alt=\"YouTube Comments on a video titled, "The Wae at AT&T Park (Giants vs. A's).\" width=\"337\" height=\"227\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">YouTube Comments on a video titled, “The Wave at AT&T Park (Giants vs. A’s).\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On one \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17NxEykL2c8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube video of an AT&T Park wave\u003c/a>, the comments section spells out this argument.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Sharing our Findings\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>We took our findings back to Chris Thompson, the question-asker for this Bay Curious story. He couldn’t help but laugh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Are they proud to be that bourgeois?” he says of Giants fans. “This is baseball. … It’s waves and hot dogs and beers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To wave or not to wave? Sound off in the comments below.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Got a question you want to see the Bay Curious team take on? \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/series/baycurious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Submit it!\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"San Francisco fans have had an unofficial no-wave policy forever. Why do they reject a cheer so many embrace?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700597674,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":43,"wordCount":1338},"headData":{"title":"Why Do Giants Fans Hate the Wave? Oakland Started It. | KQED","description":"San Francisco fans have had an unofficial no-wave policy forever. Why do they reject a cheer so many embrace?","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Why Do Giants Fans Hate the Wave? Oakland Started It.","datePublished":"2017-04-13T07:01:43.000Z","dateModified":"2023-11-21T20:14:34.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/bay-curious/2017/04/The-Wave.mp3","customPermalink":"2015/07/21/the-wave-was-born-in-oakland-and-some-giants-fans-want-it-dead/","path":"/news/10608660/the-wave-was-born-in-oakland-and-some-giants-fans-want-it-dead","audioDuration":358000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>KQED listener Chris Thompson is an avid A’s fan who recently found himself at a Giants game with work colleagues. He noticed fans a few rows away trying to get the wave started, but saw they were quickly booed by other Giants fans. Eventually ushers came over and told the group trying to start the wave to simmer down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thompson wrote to Bay Curious asking:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Why don’t they allow people to do the wave at Giants stadium?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>First thing we have to get cleared up right away — there is no \u003cem>official\u003c/em> policy against the wave at Giants games. It’s a self-imposed ban that has been a part of Giants fan culture for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But why? I mean, it’s\u003cem> the wave. \u003c/em>At many stadiums, it’s as much a part of baseball as hot dogs and beer.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Oakland Athletics Started It\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10608965\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-10608965 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Krazy George Henderson tells KQED listener Christopher about the very first wave. (Adam Grossberg/KQED)\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-1440x810.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-1400x787.jpg 1400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/chris-and-george-960x540.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Krazy George Henderson tells KQED listener Chris Thompson about the very first wave. (Adam Grossberg/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Some Giants fans point back to the origins of the wave on Oct. 15, 1981, as the reason they developed a no-wave tradition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Athletics were battling the Yankees for the American League Championship, and things were not going well for Oakland. The A’s were down by two games in a best-of-five series, and were scoreless five innings into the game.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s when a professional cheerleader called \u003ca href=\"http://www.krazygeorge.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Krazy George\u003c/a> decided to unveil a cheer he’d been developing at local high school pep rallies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Watch our video of Krazy George Henderson reliving the very first wave:\u003cbr>\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://player.vimeo.com/video/134024146?title=0&byline=0\" width=\"700\" height=\"393\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_(audience)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">some dispute\u003c/a> about whether or not Krazy George’s ’81 Oakland wave was in fact the first wave in history. Other claims point to the University of Washington or international soccer matches. But if you ask Krazy George, all of those other claims were either later than October 1981, or lack the proper supporting evidence of his nationally televised wave at the Oakland Coliseum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I say, ‘I don’t \u003cem>claim\u003c/em> to have invented the wave. I DID INVENT THE WAVE.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether that’s definitive or not, the wave’s early connection to Oakland and the A’s is enough to turn some San Francisco Giants fans against it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bennett Dake came to a recent Giants game wearing a T-shirt he got in the ’80s. The back says: “Top 10 Reasons Real Fans Go to the ’Stick.” One reason? No wave.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That’s Oakland,” he says. “We’re San Francisco. It’s always been like that. We don’t do the wave here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10608966\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-10608966 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Bennett Dake shows of his "Late Night at the 'Stick" shirt from the '80s. Number 9 reads: "No Wave." (Adam Grossberg/KQED)\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-1440x810.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-1400x788.jpg 1400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/t-shirt-960x540.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bennett Dake shows off his ‘Late Night at the ‘Stick’ shirt from the ’80s. Number 9 reads: ‘No Wave.’ (Adam Grossberg/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>The Wave Was Associated With Los Angeles (and Thus, the Dodgers)\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Though the wave might have started in Oakland, it was broadcast internationally for the first time during the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles. Television sets across the world showed images of the crowd doing the wave at the soccer final — in many minds forever linking the cheer with that city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think the wave is seen as something really Los Angeles, and it was San Francisco reacting to that,” says \u003ca href=\"http://www.danfost.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dan Fost\u003c/a>, author of \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Dan-Fost/e/B0030CEFRE/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">two books about the Giants.\u003c/a> “[The Dodgers fan] experience is all about beating the traffic, getting to the game late, leaving early and throwing beach balls around in the stands. And the wave is just such an L.A. part of that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>It’s Too Mainstream\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>One identity trait that came up repeatedly during interviews with Giants fans was their feeling of uniqueness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Giants fans sort of think that they’re a little different, so we would never stoop to something as pedestrian as doing the wave,” says Pat Gallagher, who worked as the team’s director of marketing for nearly 33 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And let’s be honest, this identity goes beyond the baseball diamond. The San Francisco Bay Area as a whole has a long history of reveling in the ways it stands apart from the rest of America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Not doing the wave is a way of saying, ‘San Francisco is different and we don’t do that here,’ ” says Fost.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Need another example? Look no further than the \u003ca href=\"http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/sf/history/sf_history_timeline_article.jsp?article=31\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Crazy Crab\u003c/a>. At a time when baseball teams around the country were eagerly bringing cheery mascots into the mix, the Giants introduced an anti-mascot. The crustacean was a walking mascot parody, and fans were encouraged to boo, hiss and sometimes throw things at the poor schmuck stuck inside the costume.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Real Serious Fans Are Real Serious\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Beyond tradition and perception, what is it about the wave that Giants fans dislike so much?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To put it simply, some people think that “real baseball fans” don’t do it. It’s seen as yet another frivolous ballpark novelty that detracts from their beloved pastime. Right up there with the Kiss Cam.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One Giants fan we spoke with says, “It’s an obnoxious response to fan excitement. I don’t like it. I think it’s silly.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Real fans chart every pitch and obsess over fundamentals. Everyone else does the wave and eats cotton candy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Giants fans don’t do the wave because they are serious about baseball,” Fost says. “They love the game, they’re paying attention to the game, and they don’t want to take themselves out of the game.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How the Tradition is Passed On\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The Giants anti-wave philosophy is carried on as a sort of oral tradition. That is, via hearty “BOOOOOs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gallagher says that when the team played at Candlestick, you’d often hear hardcore fans boo when anyone tried to start the wave.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They weren’t booing the players, they were actually booing other fans,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It appears this tradition has made the trip from the ’Stick to AT&T Park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Giants fan Dalton Hurst had a rude awakening at one of his childhood games.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I was a kid, I tried to start [the wave] and someone yelled at me,” says Hurst. “I don’t know why they don’t do it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>But New Fans Doing The Wave?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Despite the booing, long-standing tradition and ’80s T-shirts — sacrilege — the wave has been spotted circling AT&T park recently. It may be that the team’s success is attracting new fans who just don’t know the rules yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several die-hard fans blamed these bandwagon fans, (or “hipsters,” as one Giants fan called them) for bringing this abhorred tradition into their no-wave stadium.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10608969\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 337px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-20-at-6.51.10-PM.png\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10608969\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-20-at-6.51.10-PM.png\" alt=\"YouTube Comments on a video titled, "The Wae at AT&T Park (Giants vs. A's).\" width=\"337\" height=\"227\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">YouTube Comments on a video titled, “The Wave at AT&T Park (Giants vs. A’s).\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On one \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17NxEykL2c8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube video of an AT&T Park wave\u003c/a>, the comments section spells out this argument.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Sharing our Findings\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>We took our findings back to Chris Thompson, the question-asker for this Bay Curious story. He couldn’t help but laugh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Are they proud to be that bourgeois?” he says of Giants fans. “This is baseball. … It’s waves and hot dogs and beers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To wave or not to wave? Sound off in the comments below.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Got a question you want to see the Bay Curious team take on? \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/series/baycurious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Submit it!\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/10608660/the-wave-was-born-in-oakland-and-some-giants-fans-want-it-dead","authors":["102","188"],"programs":["news_6944","news_33523"],"series":["news_17986"],"categories":["news_8","news_33520","news_10"],"tags":["news_17953","news_18203","news_27","news_17152","news_150"],"featImg":"news_10608967","label":"news_33523"},"news_10705257":{"type":"posts","id":"news_10705257","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"10705257","score":null,"sort":[1444077430000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"when-baseball-and-football-overlap-the-great-oakland-coliseum-changeover","title":"When A's and Raiders Overlap: The Great Oakland Coliseum Changeover","publishDate":1444077430,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>For the first time in four years, there will be no postseason baseball in the Bay Area. Both the A's and Giants finished out of playoff contention wrapped up their seasons on Sunday. That's bad news for fans. But for one of the hardest-working people in Bay Area sports, it's a chance to catch his breath.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the last 21 years, Clay Wood has been obsessed with the look and feel of grass and dirt. While most Californians are letting their lawns crisp up and wither away during a five-year drought, Wood is making sure his is perfectly spongy and just the right hue of green.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood's \"lawn\" is the playing field at the Oakland Coliseum, where he is the head groundskeeper. The Coliseum is the last stadium in the country that's shared by a Major League Baseball and an NFL team. So by this time of the year, Wood's job can be, well, frustrating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Thinking that it’s 2015, it’s asinine, I mean it’s just crazy that they can’t figure out a stadium situation,” Wood says. “It’s been 21 years now since the Raiders have been back, and we’re still in the same place we were in 1995.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the baseball-only season, essentially April to mid-August, Oakland's field is considered one of the best in baseball, by both A’s players and those from opposing teams.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that all changes after the A's start taking turns with the Raiders. To go from football back to baseball is a massive operation. Dozens of workers, including stagehands, crane operators and janitors, must all work in tandem to remove extra seating from the outfield and infield grass, change signage, swap the tarps that cover the top deck seating, and exchange goal posts for foul poles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hn_6rcaPIE&w=560&h=315]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clay and his modest crew of eight have their hands full making the conversion. After a football game, or sometimes two in a row (as was the case before the last A’s homestand), the grass of the facility can get pretty roughed up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the football game itself takes a toll on the turf -- it is, after all, a sport centered around men slamming other men into the grass with great force -- Wood says it’s the changeover itself that really hurts. In order to facilitate the movement of huge, heavy cranes that place and remove extra football seating, layers of plywood and felt are laid over the outfield grass, creating a makeshift roadway. Wood likens the treatment to suffocation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s like if somebody were to take you and duct tape your mouth, and lock you in a closet, and while they’re at it, duct tape your nose, too, so you can’t breathe. Basically, the turf -- it’s a living, breathing thing; it needs sun, it needs water, it needs all those things to live, and when it’s covered with plywood and hundreds of tons of cranes, it’s not getting any of those things.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Athletics’ vice president of stadium operations, David Rinetti, marvels at the ease with which Wood and his small crew handle the changeover, saying it’s like watching magic. They've done it so many times, they know the routine backward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But they’re also perfectionists,\" Rinetti says. \"They want the field to be perfect. They treat it as if it’s their baby, and they do everything possible to protect it, and to make it so it will be playable for our games here, for baseball.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the baseball players, especially the outfielders, the difference between April and September turf is big. After coming home from a recent road trip, A’s outfielder Sam Fuld said returning to the post-changeover grass reminded him a bit of his high school baseball field in New Hampshire, which was like a cow pasture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s just more uneven, and on ground balls you just have to really focus in, and not take anything for granted, and realize that there’s a good chance you’re going to get a bad hop,\" Fuld says. \"You have to be conservative.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for Wood, seeing the field he and his crew have labored over change from a masterpiece of cross-hatched green grass and finely detailed dirt into a trainwreck of neon-yellow crusty turf and divots -- it hurts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s kind of a punch in the gut,” Wood says. “How does it get from that point to this point? In April, May, June, all the way up until that first conversion, my crew and I, we put in a ton of time and we take a ton of pride in what we do, and try to make it the best possible playing surface that we possibly can. And then all that work and all that effort and everything is just kind of out the window.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the future of where both the A’s and the Raiders will play still up in the air -- like a towering pop fly, or a Hail Mary that just won’t come down -- there’s no way to know when the Coliseum in Oakland will be home to just one sport and one field. The Raiders' current lease expires at the end of this football season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So for now, the man tasked with running the only remaining professional football and baseball facility in America doesn't know whether he's done the last baseball-to-football changeover of his career. And he's not wistful about the possibility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Right now, to be honest, I’m tired, really tired and looking forward to a break,\" Wood says. \"And, unfortunately, that’s going to mean baseball coming to an end, but that’s just the way it goes some years.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood and his grounds crew are also in charge of the field for the Raiders’ season, but he says it’s a more manageable schedule with less of those very long days. It will be about five months before they remove every last inch of the grass from the stadium, and lay down brand new sod just before baseball begins again in the spring.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Groundskeeper is tasked with overseeing the only stadium in the country shared by the NFL and MLB.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1444259693,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":1111},"headData":{"title":"When A's and Raiders Overlap: The Great Oakland Coliseum Changeover | KQED","description":"Groundskeeper is tasked with overseeing the only stadium in the country shared by the NFL and MLB.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"When A's and Raiders Overlap: The Great Oakland Coliseum Changeover","datePublished":"2015-10-05T20:37:10.000Z","dateModified":"2015-10-07T23:14:53.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"10705257 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=10705257","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/10/05/when-baseball-and-football-overlap-the-great-oakland-coliseum-changeover/","disqusTitle":"When A's and Raiders Overlap: The Great Oakland Coliseum Changeover","nprByline":"Joseph Geha","path":"/news/10705257/when-baseball-and-football-overlap-the-great-oakland-coliseum-changeover","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>For the first time in four years, there will be no postseason baseball in the Bay Area. Both the A's and Giants finished out of playoff contention wrapped up their seasons on Sunday. That's bad news for fans. But for one of the hardest-working people in Bay Area sports, it's a chance to catch his breath.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the last 21 years, Clay Wood has been obsessed with the look and feel of grass and dirt. While most Californians are letting their lawns crisp up and wither away during a five-year drought, Wood is making sure his is perfectly spongy and just the right hue of green.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood's \"lawn\" is the playing field at the Oakland Coliseum, where he is the head groundskeeper. The Coliseum is the last stadium in the country that's shared by a Major League Baseball and an NFL team. So by this time of the year, Wood's job can be, well, frustrating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Thinking that it’s 2015, it’s asinine, I mean it’s just crazy that they can’t figure out a stadium situation,” Wood says. “It’s been 21 years now since the Raiders have been back, and we’re still in the same place we were in 1995.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the baseball-only season, essentially April to mid-August, Oakland's field is considered one of the best in baseball, by both A’s players and those from opposing teams.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that all changes after the A's start taking turns with the Raiders. To go from football back to baseball is a massive operation. Dozens of workers, including stagehands, crane operators and janitors, must all work in tandem to remove extra seating from the outfield and infield grass, change signage, swap the tarps that cover the top deck seating, and exchange goal posts for foul poles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/3hn_6rcaPIE'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/3hn_6rcaPIE'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clay and his modest crew of eight have their hands full making the conversion. 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After coming home from a recent road trip, A’s outfielder Sam Fuld said returning to the post-changeover grass reminded him a bit of his high school baseball field in New Hampshire, which was like a cow pasture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s just more uneven, and on ground balls you just have to really focus in, and not take anything for granted, and realize that there’s a good chance you’re going to get a bad hop,\" Fuld says. \"You have to be conservative.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for Wood, seeing the field he and his crew have labored over change from a masterpiece of cross-hatched green grass and finely detailed dirt into a trainwreck of neon-yellow crusty turf and divots -- it hurts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s kind of a punch in the gut,” Wood says. “How does it get from that point to this point? 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He was a Bay Area institution and a Baseball Hall of Fame announcer who called a multitude of games for both the Giants and A's. He also worked over two decades on 49ers broadcasts, and it's his excited, voice-cracking 1988 call of Steve Young's game-winning mad-dash against the Vikings that many will remember him by. The transcript can't do it justice, but here it is:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Young, back to throw. In trouble, he’s going to be sacked. No, gets away. He runs. Gets away again. Goes to the 40. Gets away again. To the 35, cuts back at the 30. To the 20, the 15, the 10, he dives. Touchdown, 49ers!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://youtu.be/LbPwwmEcws0\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you have any doubt about Simmons' versatility, here he is describing a Giants-Mets brawl in 1962, along with partner Russ Hodges turning into virtual boxing announcers, back when proscriptions against condoning violence was not on anyone's radar:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://youtu.be/u2jfcVzkGIg\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>AP obituary, by Janie McCauley\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SAN FRANCISCO — Lon Simmons, a Hall of Fame broadcaster whose career spanned five decades calling San Francisco Giants, Oakland Athletics and 49ers games, died Sunday. He was 91.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Giants announced that Simmons had died \"peacefully,\" saying, \"The Giants family and Bay Area sports community lost a true gentleman.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simmons was one of the original voices of the Giants when they moved West in 1958, and he covered Hall of Famers Willie Mays and Willie McCovey, Juan Marichal, Gaylord Perry and Orlando Cepeda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Like many fans, my earliest Giants memories were listening to Lon and Russ on my transistor radio,\" Giants President and CEO Larry Baer said. \"Hearing his broadcasts ignited my and thousands of others' passion for Giants baseball. He will be deeply missed by all of us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simmons called Oakland's victory in the earthquake-interrupted 1989 Bay Bridge World Series, with that booming voice, announcing, \"The A's have won the World Series in a sweep!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over three stints with the Giants, Simmons considered one of his greatest thrills getting to call Mays' 600th home run. His signature phrase on the longball became, \"Tell it goodbye!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If they had a Nobel Prize for baseball, Willie would have won it,\" Simmons said during Mays' 80th birthday festivities in May 2011.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also announced many of home run king Barry Bonds' drives during his pursuit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"R.I.P #LonSimmons you will forever be in our hearts. Broadcasting Bay Area sports since 1958,\" Bonds posted on Twitter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Simmons, who was honored with the Ford C. Frick Award by the Hall of Fame in 2004, also had a famous call on Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young's epic, back-and-forth game-winning scramble for 49 yards against the Minnesota Vikings on Oct. 30, 1988, that still lives in the memories of Bay Area sports fans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Young, back to throw, in trouble, he's going to be sacked. No, gets away, he runs, gets away again, goes to the 40, gets away again, to the 35, cuts back at the 30, to the 20, the 15, the 10. He dives. Touchdown, 49ers!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ahead of the Niners' final season at Candlestick Park in 2013, Simmons reflected on the run-down stadium where he did most of his work. Simmons often took shots at himself and that humor became part of his charm, along with his baritone voice and personable nature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I felt that Candlestick and I were soul mates: We were both big and ugly, we were both windy and they could never figure out how to get rid of either one of us,\" Simmons said. \"As John Brodie used to say about Candlestick, he said, 'We have the advantage when we play at home, I have the advantage because I've played in the wind and things and I know what the ball's going to do.' The guys come in to play one game a year and the winds and stuff killed them because it really did affect the ball throwing it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simmons — who spent much of his time in the radio booth alongside Russ Hodges — dealt with cancer more than once in recent years. He requested not to have a memorial service, the Giants said. 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He was 91.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Giants announced that Simmons had died \"peacefully,\" saying, \"The Giants family and Bay Area sports community lost a true gentleman.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simmons was one of the original voices of the Giants when they moved West in 1958, and he covered Hall of Famers Willie Mays and Willie McCovey, Juan Marichal, Gaylord Perry and Orlando Cepeda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Like many fans, my earliest Giants memories were listening to Lon and Russ on my transistor radio,\" Giants President and CEO Larry Baer said. \"Hearing his broadcasts ignited my and thousands of others' passion for Giants baseball. He will be deeply missed by all of us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simmons called Oakland's victory in the earthquake-interrupted 1989 Bay Bridge World Series, with that booming voice, announcing, \"The A's have won the World Series in a sweep!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over three stints with the Giants, Simmons considered one of his greatest thrills getting to call Mays' 600th home run. His signature phrase on the longball became, \"Tell it goodbye!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If they had a Nobel Prize for baseball, Willie would have won it,\" Simmons said during Mays' 80th birthday festivities in May 2011.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also announced many of home run king Barry Bonds' drives during his pursuit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"R.I.P #LonSimmons you will forever be in our hearts. Broadcasting Bay Area sports since 1958,\" Bonds posted on Twitter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Simmons, who was honored with the Ford C. 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