David Gensaw Jr. is the vice chair of the Yurok Tribe. It's one of many groups that rely on and have claim to the waters of the Klamath River. (Molly Peterson/KQED)
You’d think a bird would have an easy time finding a watery rest stop along the over 260-mile-long Klamath River. That should be especially true in the Lower Klamath National Wildlife Refuge, a huge marshland along the Pacific Flyway. But in 2012 a dry year cut water supplies, which then chopped available wetlands in half and accelerated the spread of avian cholera. Up to 20,000 birds died off, including snow geese, ducks and coots.
Water rights along the Klamath River have always been a matter of survival, and birds aren’t the only ones competing for water -- they're just the last in line. The federal government manages a complex hierarchy of rights along the river, claimed by irrigators, tribes and fish in the two states it runs through: California and Oregon.
And shortages are becoming more common. “The challenges we have here are because we’ve promised too much water to too many people,” says Trout Unlimited’s Chrysten Lambert. “We’ve promised more water than there is here.”
While the November election has brought stories of uncertainty and division, in the Klamath Basin a sprawling and unlikely group of allies has been working across political lines for years to establish a sustainable sense of the river. Six years ago, they hashed out a huge compromise deal, to take out dams, sort out rights and allocate water. Without congressional support, that agreement died. But earlier this year, the dams’ owner, PacifiCorp, applied to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to abandon its interests, a move that doesn’t require congressional approval.
With dam removal now in process, sharing water remains a separate negotiation. Several parties to the original deal confirm talks about water rights and water allocation have begun.
“There is a water allocation that's needed,” says John Bezdek, a special counsel to the federal Secretary of the Interior. He points to the Department of the Interior’s many interests in the region: managing water and dams, managing tribal rights, and maintaining the health of fisheries. “Dam removal makes a lot of that easier, but dam removal does not finish the job on any of that.”
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Finishing the job is a delicate operation. Paul Simmons, a lawyer for farmers and ranchers, says water rights are personal here for everyone. “It really is their identity and it’s an essential part of their culture,” he says. “When you start talking about changing that, it certainly is something that raises the stakes or makes the stakes different.”
Overlapping and Personal
Federally recognized tribes in Oregon claim the most senior water rights in the Klamath Basin. Three years ago, the state of Oregon recognized that the Klamath Tribes’ claim on Upper Klamath Lake dates to “time immemorial.”
In the lower basin, three more tribes in California -- the Karuk, the Yurok and the Hoopa -- claim water, too. And, while their rights vary, they share an interest in keeping enough water in the river to keep fish healthy.
Wendy Ferris-George, a Karuk tribal member, gets emotional when she talks about it. “I want the kids to be able to go down to the river and fish and bring home fish for their family,” she says, her voice quavering. “I want the grandmothers and grandfathers not to have to worry about their families starving. That’s what’s happening on the river. Our people are living in poverty, but to native people it’s our life.”
The Endangered Species Act also claims water, to sustain and nurture sucker fish in Upper Klamath Lake, and salmon and steelhead downriver. Complicating all of this, farmers and irrigators say they need water first promised to them by the federal government a century ago.
In recent years, when there’s not enough water, federal and state programs have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on habitat restoration, fishery management, and even emergency aid for farmers. The Department of the Interior’s John Bezdek says an agreement would save money in the long run. “I believe that the longer we go without settlement, the more resources are hurting and the more it causes people to re-evaluate where they are,” Bezdek says. “But I also believe that this basin and this group of stakeholders, they’ve been to the edge and back.”
Back From The Edge
Among those stakeholders are farmers and ranchers on a quarter-million acres of land, some of it former marshes drained by the federal government more than a century ago after it dammed the Klamath and began storing water for irrigation in Upper Klamath Lake.
The edge that Bezdek is talking about came 15 years ago, when water shortages forced the federal government to turn off the spigot to more than a quarter-million acres of land. That decision sent guys like Scott Seus, a third-generation farmer in Tulelake, scrambling.
And on a busy fall day, Seus hops into a combine to harvest mint. He says he wants to make sure a fourth-generation Seus can farm here.
“My grandfather was a homesteader here in 1947. He drew a number out of the pickle jar,” says Seus. Former GIs would draw a number and then stick a pin in a map to show where they wanted to homestead.
“They actually lived in one of the barracks that was part of the Japanese internment camp here,” he says. “The people that survived here were the tough ones. And since 2001, our community gets smaller and smaller, and there’s less and less people here that are survivors.”
Seus has survived by diversifying risk and cost in his crops. He grows mint, horseradish, onions, garlic and grain. The amount, and his income, depend on the water available.
“I've got to know that I've got water next year to get through,” he says.
At the same time, Seus says, he’s gained an understanding of the needs of others along the Klamath. In 2002, a year after his water was shut off, tens of thousands of salmon died downstream, in Yurok country, near Blue Creek. It was a devastating loss to the tribes downriver, and one which galvanized their efforts to remove four dams that have long blocked fish passage up the main stem of the Klamath.
“I'm happy for them that they're going to get the dams out ... and it's going to make everything right,” he says, about the tribes, which farmers like him used to only see as opponents. His support is genuine, but tempered. “I'm not here to say, 'Don't do that,' but I am expecting them to understand that I need to farm, too.”
Years of drought appear to be ending in the Klamath Basin, and predictions suggest a snowy winter. But Seus still supports an agreement to share water, because he says the real enemy for farmers like him now is doubt. “There is only one path forward,” says Seus. “That's that everybody's got to get back together and try to see this thing through.”
Several Klamath water users say they don’t know what to expect from the incoming Trump administration. So far, it’s brought uncertainty, the exact thing that guys like Scott Seus try to avoid. For now, water users in this area stand by the idea that the best solution to their problems still lies with each other.
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California Voters May Decide","publishDate":1714820449,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Should Kids Learn Financial Literacy in School? California Voters May Decide | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>School curriculum is usually the purview of education experts, but this fall, it could be decided by California voters, who will vote on adding a new requirement for high school students: a one-semester class in managing personal finances.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California’s Secretary of State is poised to certify that the \u003ca href=\"https://www.financialed4ca.com/_files/ugd/ddc900_30f9026dbbfc41da84354dffd0155870.pdf\">California Personal Finance Act\u003c/a> is eligible for the November ballot, which would add financial literacy to the list of high school graduation requirements beginning with the class of 2030.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Students would learn about paying for college, online banking, taxes, budgeting, credit, retirement accounts, loans, how the stock market works and other topics. The issue is critical, organizers said, as students face a shifting economy and difficult decisions about college, careers and their futures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No one comes out of the womb knowing how to manage their credit score. It has to be taught,” said Tim Ranzetta, co-founder of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.ngpf.org/\">personal finance education nonprofit\u003c/a> and a chief backer of the initiative. “And right now, there’s a dramatic gap between what students know and what they need to know. We have to change that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Voters seem to agree with him. A 2022 \u003ca href=\"https://www.nefe.org/news/2022/04/financial-education-mandates.aspx\">survey\u003c/a> of adults nationwide showed that nearly 90% support a financial literacy requirement in high school, and nearly as many wished they had taken such a course when they were students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not surprising, considering the financial woes many people incur. The average \u003ca href=\"https://www.lendingtree.com/credit-cards/credit-card-debt-statistics/\">credit card debt in California\u003c/a> is $8,366, the sixth-highest rate in the country, and 1 in 6 borrowers nationwide are \u003ca href=\"https://www.newamerica.org/education-policy/edcentral/millions-spend-years-in-student-loan-default/#:~:text=Almost%207%20million%20people%2C%20about,270%20days'%20worth%20of%20payments.\">in default on their student loans\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Financial literacy already in classrooms\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>However, some education experts have pushed back, not because they’re opposed to financial literacy for students but because they question whether voters are best equipped to dictate what’s taught in classrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, the state’s History-Social Studies framework includes a \u003ca href=\"https://www.cde.ca.gov/ci/hs/cf/documents/hssfwchapter18.pdf\">one-semester course in economics\u003c/a>, required for graduation, that covers much of the same material proposed by the financial literacy ballot initiative proponents. Financial literacy is also included in the first, second and ninth grade curriculum. First graders, for example, learn that money can be exchanged for goods and services, and people decide how to spend their money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, Ranzetta said the curriculum, last updated in 2017, doesn’t focus enough on financial literacy. Personal finance is covered for only a few weeks in the economics course; the rest covers more abstract economic concepts like international trade, resource allocation and the benefits and drawbacks of capitalism. Individual teachers can choose how much they want to focus on certain topics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Superintendent Tony Thurmond wouldn’t answer questions about the ballot initiative, although he endorsed it. Linda Darling-Hammond, president of the State Board of Education, also wouldn’t answer questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Leaving curriculum decisions to voters is ‘a bad idea’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The proposed ballot initiative so far has almost zero opposition, but some are questioning the idea of letting voters — and not education experts — decide what students learn in the classroom. Ordinarily, the curriculum in California is developed by a group of teachers and subject-matter professionals who serve on the \u003ca href=\"https://www.cde.ca.gov/be/cc/cd/\">Instructional Quality Commission\u003c/a>, which meets publicly six times a year. A new curriculum is subject to multiple reviews, edits and public vetting, ultimately going before the \u003ca href=\"https://www.cde.ca.gov/be/\">State Board of Education\u003c/a> for adoption. Local school boards can adjust the curriculum according to the needs of their students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Most voters don’t know much about education policy, and having them decide what can be taught in schools is a bad idea,” said Morgan Polikoff, an education professor at the University of Southern California. “We already have a process in place for adopting curriculum, and if people are unhappy with it, there are plenty of avenues to have their voices heard — they can go to meetings, they can vote people out of office, they can talk to their representatives.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Polikoff worries that adopting curriculum through ballot initiatives could set a dangerous precedent. Religious or anti-LGBTQ curriculum, for example, could be approved by voters, setting up costly and lengthy legal showdowns with the state Department of Education.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Curriculum can be complicated, as well. When writing new curricula, the Instructional Quality Commission looks at the broader context, ensuring students get new material every year that builds on what they learned previously, subjects don’t overlap and topics are flexible enough for teachers to adapt lessons to the individual needs of their students. Textbooks and tests are also taken into consideration.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Legislature weighs in\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Most curriculum updates and changes originate with the commission, but sometimes the Legislature weighs in. The state’s new \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/education/k-12-education/2021/10/ethnic-studies-requirement/\">ethnic studies\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/education/k-12-education/2023/11/fake-news-california-school/\">media literacy\u003c/a> requirements, for example, stemmed from Assembly bills. Another bill, \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240ab2097?slug=CA_202320240AB2097\">AB 2097\u003c/a>, would add computer science as a graduation requirement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240ab2927?slug=CA_202320240AB2927\">AB 2927\u003c/a>, a financial literacy bill proposed by Democrat \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/legislators/kevin-mccarty-22\">Kevin McCarty\u003c/a> of Sacramento, would actually do almost the same thing as the ballot initiative. The bill would require financial literacy as a graduation requirement, although it would go into effect until 2031, a year later than the ballot measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bruce Fuller, an education professor at UC Berkeley, said he worries about the increasing politicization of curriculum — either from the Legislature or those pushing for ballot initiatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have these political interests unabashedly trying to control what’s taught in the classroom instead of leaving it up to teachers and locally elected school boards,” Fuller said. “We should trust those folks to devise a thoughtful curriculum that’s appropriate for their students.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also questioned the ever-growing list of graduation requirements. High schools only offer six or seven class periods a day, and with more required classes, there’s less room for art and other electives. Some districts have started adding an extra period so students can fit in all the classes they need to take to graduate, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/education/k-12-education/2024/04/career-pathways/\">finish a career pathway\u003c/a> and qualify for California’s public universities.[aside postID=news_11984551 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240423-SAT-III-MD-06-KQED-1020x680.jpg']“I’m not sure how adding more required classes is going to motivate restless teenagers,” Fuller said. “With more requirements, we’re giving them almost no chance to study things they’re actually interested in.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McCarty’s bill is not the Legislature’s first attempt to wade into financial literacy. A dozen bills requiring financial literacy have died or been vetoed in recent years, in most cases because the financial literacy curriculum already exists and the state already has a system for adopting the curriculum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Gov. Jerry Brown wrote in 2018 when he \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billStatusClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB858\">vetoed a bill\u003c/a> that would have made financial literacy materials available to teachers: “This bill is unnecessary. The History-Social Science Framework already contains financial literacy content for pupils in kindergarten through grade 12, as well as a financial literacy elective.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ranzetta said the Legislature’s inability to pass a financial literacy curriculum spurred him to take the matter directly to voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I recognize the value of the process, but it’s slow, and so far, it hasn’t worked in California,” he said. “The issue is too urgent and too popular to wait any longer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ranzetta grew up in New Jersey, where his father was a banker, and his mother was a community volunteer who raised six children. He learned financial literacy from his parents and assumed other young people did, too. It wasn’t until he started volunteering at an East Palo Alto high school that he realized many students are clueless about money and that ignorance can hamper them throughout their lives. But they were eager to learn, he said, and share the information with their parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That experience inspired him to start NextGen Personal Finance, which offers free financial literacy curriculum and training for teachers. At least 7,000 teachers in California and more than 100,000 nationwide have participated, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A class that demystifies money\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At Berkeley High School, Crystal Rigley Janis teaches two economics classes and three personal finance classes. Her classes cover topics she wishes she had known as a young person, such as negotiating a salary, not relying on gut instinct when investing, and avoiding individual stocks in favor of index funds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It took me 15 years to understand those things, and it probably cost me millions of dollars,” said Rigley, who worked for several years at a wealth management firm before going into teaching. “I don’t want other people to make the mistakes I did.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985029\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985029\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students walk in the main entrance of Berkeley High School in Berkeley on May 1, 2024. \u003ccite>(Laure Andrillon/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Eliza Maier, a senior, was so inspired by Rigley’s class that she opened a Roth IRA when she turned 18 and transferred money from her low-interest savings account. The class, she said, helped demystify money and its role in major life choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We learned that money isn’t good or bad — it’s a tool,” Maier said. “It can help you realize your goals. It can help you be prepared for whatever happens in your life. I didn’t know anything about money when I started taking this class, but I think it’s so important, especially for high school students.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"California's Secretary of State is poised to certify the California Personal Finance Act for November’s ballot, which would add financial literacy to high school graduation requirements beginning with the class of 2030.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1714780996,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":31,"wordCount":1626},"headData":{"title":"Should Kids Learn Financial Literacy in School? 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The issue is critical, organizers said, as students face a shifting economy and difficult decisions about college, careers and their futures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No one comes out of the womb knowing how to manage their credit score. It has to be taught,” said Tim Ranzetta, co-founder of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.ngpf.org/\">personal finance education nonprofit\u003c/a> and a chief backer of the initiative. “And right now, there’s a dramatic gap between what students know and what they need to know. We have to change that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Voters seem to agree with him. A 2022 \u003ca href=\"https://www.nefe.org/news/2022/04/financial-education-mandates.aspx\">survey\u003c/a> of adults nationwide showed that nearly 90% support a financial literacy requirement in high school, and nearly as many wished they had taken such a course when they were students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not surprising, considering the financial woes many people incur. The average \u003ca href=\"https://www.lendingtree.com/credit-cards/credit-card-debt-statistics/\">credit card debt in California\u003c/a> is $8,366, the sixth-highest rate in the country, and 1 in 6 borrowers nationwide are \u003ca href=\"https://www.newamerica.org/education-policy/edcentral/millions-spend-years-in-student-loan-default/#:~:text=Almost%207%20million%20people%2C%20about,270%20days'%20worth%20of%20payments.\">in default on their student loans\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Financial literacy already in classrooms\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>However, some education experts have pushed back, not because they’re opposed to financial literacy for students but because they question whether voters are best equipped to dictate what’s taught in classrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, the state’s History-Social Studies framework includes a \u003ca href=\"https://www.cde.ca.gov/ci/hs/cf/documents/hssfwchapter18.pdf\">one-semester course in economics\u003c/a>, required for graduation, that covers much of the same material proposed by the financial literacy ballot initiative proponents. Financial literacy is also included in the first, second and ninth grade curriculum. First graders, for example, learn that money can be exchanged for goods and services, and people decide how to spend their money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, Ranzetta said the curriculum, last updated in 2017, doesn’t focus enough on financial literacy. Personal finance is covered for only a few weeks in the economics course; the rest covers more abstract economic concepts like international trade, resource allocation and the benefits and drawbacks of capitalism. Individual teachers can choose how much they want to focus on certain topics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Superintendent Tony Thurmond wouldn’t answer questions about the ballot initiative, although he endorsed it. Linda Darling-Hammond, president of the State Board of Education, also wouldn’t answer questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Leaving curriculum decisions to voters is ‘a bad idea’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The proposed ballot initiative so far has almost zero opposition, but some are questioning the idea of letting voters — and not education experts — decide what students learn in the classroom. Ordinarily, the curriculum in California is developed by a group of teachers and subject-matter professionals who serve on the \u003ca href=\"https://www.cde.ca.gov/be/cc/cd/\">Instructional Quality Commission\u003c/a>, which meets publicly six times a year. A new curriculum is subject to multiple reviews, edits and public vetting, ultimately going before the \u003ca href=\"https://www.cde.ca.gov/be/\">State Board of Education\u003c/a> for adoption. Local school boards can adjust the curriculum according to the needs of their students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Most voters don’t know much about education policy, and having them decide what can be taught in schools is a bad idea,” said Morgan Polikoff, an education professor at the University of Southern California. “We already have a process in place for adopting curriculum, and if people are unhappy with it, there are plenty of avenues to have their voices heard — they can go to meetings, they can vote people out of office, they can talk to their representatives.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Polikoff worries that adopting curriculum through ballot initiatives could set a dangerous precedent. Religious or anti-LGBTQ curriculum, for example, could be approved by voters, setting up costly and lengthy legal showdowns with the state Department of Education.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Curriculum can be complicated, as well. When writing new curricula, the Instructional Quality Commission looks at the broader context, ensuring students get new material every year that builds on what they learned previously, subjects don’t overlap and topics are flexible enough for teachers to adapt lessons to the individual needs of their students. Textbooks and tests are also taken into consideration.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Legislature weighs in\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Most curriculum updates and changes originate with the commission, but sometimes the Legislature weighs in. The state’s new \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/education/k-12-education/2021/10/ethnic-studies-requirement/\">ethnic studies\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/education/k-12-education/2023/11/fake-news-california-school/\">media literacy\u003c/a> requirements, for example, stemmed from Assembly bills. Another bill, \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240ab2097?slug=CA_202320240AB2097\">AB 2097\u003c/a>, would add computer science as a graduation requirement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240ab2927?slug=CA_202320240AB2927\">AB 2927\u003c/a>, a financial literacy bill proposed by Democrat \u003ca href=\"https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/legislators/kevin-mccarty-22\">Kevin McCarty\u003c/a> of Sacramento, would actually do almost the same thing as the ballot initiative. The bill would require financial literacy as a graduation requirement, although it would go into effect until 2031, a year later than the ballot measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bruce Fuller, an education professor at UC Berkeley, said he worries about the increasing politicization of curriculum — either from the Legislature or those pushing for ballot initiatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have these political interests unabashedly trying to control what’s taught in the classroom instead of leaving it up to teachers and locally elected school boards,” Fuller said. “We should trust those folks to devise a thoughtful curriculum that’s appropriate for their students.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also questioned the ever-growing list of graduation requirements. High schools only offer six or seven class periods a day, and with more required classes, there’s less room for art and other electives. Some districts have started adding an extra period so students can fit in all the classes they need to take to graduate, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/education/k-12-education/2024/04/career-pathways/\">finish a career pathway\u003c/a> and qualify for California’s public universities.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11984551","hero":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240423-SAT-III-MD-06-KQED-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“I’m not sure how adding more required classes is going to motivate restless teenagers,” Fuller said. “With more requirements, we’re giving them almost no chance to study things they’re actually interested in.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McCarty’s bill is not the Legislature’s first attempt to wade into financial literacy. A dozen bills requiring financial literacy have died or been vetoed in recent years, in most cases because the financial literacy curriculum already exists and the state already has a system for adopting the curriculum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Gov. Jerry Brown wrote in 2018 when he \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billStatusClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB858\">vetoed a bill\u003c/a> that would have made financial literacy materials available to teachers: “This bill is unnecessary. The History-Social Science Framework already contains financial literacy content for pupils in kindergarten through grade 12, as well as a financial literacy elective.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ranzetta said the Legislature’s inability to pass a financial literacy curriculum spurred him to take the matter directly to voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I recognize the value of the process, but it’s slow, and so far, it hasn’t worked in California,” he said. “The issue is too urgent and too popular to wait any longer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ranzetta grew up in New Jersey, where his father was a banker, and his mother was a community volunteer who raised six children. He learned financial literacy from his parents and assumed other young people did, too. It wasn’t until he started volunteering at an East Palo Alto high school that he realized many students are clueless about money and that ignorance can hamper them throughout their lives. But they were eager to learn, he said, and share the information with their parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That experience inspired him to start NextGen Personal Finance, which offers free financial literacy curriculum and training for teachers. At least 7,000 teachers in California and more than 100,000 nationwide have participated, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A class that demystifies money\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At Berkeley High School, Crystal Rigley Janis teaches two economics classes and three personal finance classes. Her classes cover topics she wishes she had known as a young person, such as negotiating a salary, not relying on gut instinct when investing, and avoiding individual stocks in favor of index funds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It took me 15 years to understand those things, and it probably cost me millions of dollars,” said Rigley, who worked for several years at a wealth management firm before going into teaching. “I don’t want other people to make the mistakes I did.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985029\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985029\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CMFinance02-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students walk in the main entrance of Berkeley High School in Berkeley on May 1, 2024. \u003ccite>(Laure Andrillon/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Eliza Maier, a senior, was so inspired by Rigley’s class that she opened a Roth IRA when she turned 18 and transferred money from her low-interest savings account. The class, she said, helped demystify money and its role in major life choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We learned that money isn’t good or bad — it’s a tool,” Maier said. “It can help you realize your goals. It can help you be prepared for whatever happens in your life. I didn’t know anything about money when I started taking this class, but I think it’s so important, especially for high school students.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985022/california-voters-to-decide-on-adding-financial-literacy-course-to-high-school-curriculum","authors":["byline_news_11985022"],"categories":["news_18540","news_8"],"tags":["news_18538","news_20013","news_2619"],"affiliates":["news_18481"],"featImg":"news_11985024","label":"source_news_11985022"},"forum_2010101905623":{"type":"posts","id":"forum_2010101905623","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"forum","id":"2010101905623","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"gaza-war-ceasefire-talks-continue-as-israel-threatens-rafah-invasion","title":"Gaza War Ceasefire Talks Continue as Israel Threatens Rafah Invasion","publishDate":1714775837,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Gaza War Ceasefire Talks Continue as Israel Threatens Rafah Invasion | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"forum"},"content":"\u003cp>As the war between Israel and Hamas enters its eighth month, U.S., Egyptian and Qatari mediators are awaiting a response from Hamas on a proposed ceasefire deal that calls for the release of Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners. 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Plus, they dig into the ongoing turmoil and controversy involving campus protests over Israel’s war in Gaza, how campuses are responding and the political implications for November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985009/congressional-recount-drama-and-questions-about-campus-protests","authors":["255","3239","227"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_34008","news_34017","news_33959","news_33881","news_29089","news_33673","news_29808","news_22235","news_17968","news_6413"],"featImg":"news_11984568","label":"source_news_11985009"},"news_11984807":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11984807","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11984807","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"know-your-rights-california-protesters-legal-standing-under-the-first-amendment","title":"Know Your Rights: California Protesters' Legal Standing Under the First Amendment","publishDate":1714762853,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Know Your Rights: California Protesters’ Legal Standing Under the First Amendment | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>A huge wave of pro-Palestinian demonstrations has swept college campuses across California and the United States more broadly in the last few weeks — on the heels of protests and rallies that have taken over freeways, bridges and buildings over the last six months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These protests — especially the latest actions across college campuses — have been met in California with police presence, arrests and even the threat of further legal action against those involved. Videos last week showed \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/lapd-marches-towards-usc-protesters-209660485756\">Los Angeles police officers marching into the University of Southern California\u003c/a> to break up pro-Palestinian encampments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this month, California State Assemblymember Kate Sanchez introduced \u003ca href=\"https://www.courthousenews.com/california-bill-would-create-new-infraction-for-protesters-who-block-highways/\">a bill to create a new infraction\u003c/a> for obstructing highways during protests that affect emergency vehicles. In San Francisco, District Attorney Brooke Jenkins announced that she is considering \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983413/could-protesters-who-shut-down-golden-gate-bridge-be-charged-with-false-imprisonment\">the possibility of charging a group of pro-Palestinian protesters with a felony\u003c/a> for blocking the Golden Gate Bridge, which was met with concerns from civil rights advocates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11975868\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11975868\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED.jpg\" alt='People hold up a banner that reads \"Stop Arming Israel\" across the Golden Gate Bridge, blocking traffic.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pro-Palestinian protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza briefly block traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge on the morning of Feb. 14, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juan Carlos Lara/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Many of these protests have focused specifically on the United States’ financial support of Israel, which is now over six months into its siege of Gaza.\u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-strike-rafah-kill-13-gaza-death-toll-surpass-34000/\"> Israeli forces have killed over 34,000 Palestinians\u003c/a>, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry. This is since Hamas’ attack on Oct. 7, which killed some 1,200 people, according to the Israeli government. (\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/gaza/\">Follow KQED’s coverage of the war and its impact on the Bay Area community\u003c/a>, and read more from NPR about the decades-long conflict in its \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/series/1205445976/middle-east-crisis\">Middle East crisis — explained series\u003c/a>)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Lawful protests are, by design, meant to be visible and inconvenient,” said ACLU Northern California’s legal director, Shilpi Agarwal, in response to Jenkins’ announcement of possible charges against the protesters who shut down the Golden Gate Bridge. “Lawful protests often create roadblocks or shut down streets or create traffic.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Margaret Russell — an assistant law professor at Santa Clara University School — said she discussed the protests with \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11984645/photos-campus-protests-grow-across-bay-area\">undergraduate and graduate students\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As the arrests and violence increase, people become fearful of what might happen to them even if they protest peacefully,” she wrote in an email to KQED. “Will they get caught up in an altercation and be arrested? Their determination to speak up is ‘chilled’ or silenced.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you choose to join a protest — about any issue you feel strongly about — what are your legal rights in California? How much does the First Amendment protect protesters, and what can protesters be arrested for? Keep reading for what to know about protesting and the law, and read our other guides to:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821950/how-to-safely-attend-a-protest-in-the-bay-area\">Attending a rally safely in the Bay Area\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821950/how-to-safely-attend-a-protest-in-the-bay-area\">How to film the police\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11955465/dolores-hill-bomb-legal-rights-spectator-onlooker\">Your rights as a spectator\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>And remember: If you’re unable to join a rally or protest in person for whatever reason but want to make your stance on any issue known, you always have the option to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">contact your elected officials to express your opinions\u003c/a>. For more information on what “call your reps” actually means, how to do it, and what to expect as a result, read our explainer: \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">How Can I Call My Representative? A Step-by-Step Guide to the Process\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What is the First Amendment, and what does it cover during a protest?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects five basic rights: freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, peaceful assembly and petitioning the government. (The \u003ca href=\"https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/#:~:text=Congress%20shall%20make%20no%20law,for%20a%20redress%20of%20grievances.\">text in full\u003c/a> reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California also has its own expansive free speech provisions under \u003ca href=\"https://law.justia.com/constitution/california/article-i/section-2/#:~:text=SEC.,liberty%20of%20speech%20or%20press.\">Article 1, Section 2\u003c/a> of the state’s constitution that protect and reaffirm many of these rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984815\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984815\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">California Highway Patrol officers ask for people to disperse after demonstrators shut down the southbound lanes of I-880 on the morning of April 15, 2024, in West Oakland. The protesters, engaging in a multi-city ‘economic blockade in solidarity with Palestine,’ marched from the West Oakland BART station to the 7th Street on-ramp and onto the freeway. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“These rights are all really powerful, and they protect our democracy,” said Chessie Thacher, senior attorney with ACLU NorCal’s Democracy and Civic Engagement Program. “But they’re not unlimited, and they depend on various factors.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of those factors, Thacher said, include:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>When you’re speaking:\u003c/strong> Even in public spaces, the government can impose what is known as \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983413/could-protesters-who-shut-down-golden-gate-bridge-be-charged-with-false-imprisonment\">“time, place and manner restrictions” that dictate certain parameters to try to ensure safety.\u003c/a> An example, Thacher said, is that the city can prevent people from using a loud bullhorn at 2 a.m. in a city square because people may be sleeping. But they can’t stop a person from using the same bullhorn at lunch hour the next day.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Where you’re speaking: \u003c/strong>You have a lot of protections in public spaces, like a park or a sidewalk. But if you are speaking at a private location — like someone’s backyard — “you don’t have many speech protections,” Thacher said. The gray area: If you are speaking in a place that is “sort of public, like a school campus or a library,” then your rights to free speech “are somewhere in the middle,” she cautioned. “But even then, the government can’t punish you because they don’t like you.”\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Who’s speaking:\u003c/strong> If you are speaking as a private citizen on your personal time about something of public concern, your speech is protected. Thacher noted, however, that speech is “a lot less protected” if, for example, you work for the government — since someone may think you are speaking \u003cem>for \u003c/em>the government, and “the government has the right to decide its speech for itself,” she said. This can also happen when a teacher or a police officer is a speaker, and people may assume they are speaking on behalf of their workplace.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>What does the First Amendment \u003cem>not \u003c/em>cover when it comes to protesting?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Thacher said there were some misconceptions about the First Amendment to keep in mind:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>It does not mean freedom from consequences:\u003c/strong> While the First Amendment prohibits the government from punishing you for your speech, “it doesn’t protect you from actions that a private employer might take because of your speech,” Thacher said. “It doesn’t protect you from receiving feedback from people about what you’re saying.”\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>It does not protect the \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://freeexpression.usc.edu/activism/hecklers-veto/\">\u003cstrong>“heckler’s veto”\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>:\u003c/strong> Meaning that under the First Amendment, within some boundaries, you don’t have the right to shut down another person’s right to speak. For example, this could include yelling louder than another speaker so that other people cannot hear them.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>It does not protect against \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://pressbooks.pub/civillibertiescasesandmaterials/chapter/fighting-words-and-hate-speech/#:~:text=True%20threats%20involve%20speech%20that,a%20speaker%20against%20another%20individual.\">\u003cstrong>true threats\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>, incitement, fighting words or harassment.\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>The First Amendment also does not protect against \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.georgetown.edu/icap/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2020/12/Law-enforcement-First-Amendment-Guidance.pdf\">“violent or unlawful conduct, even if the person engaging in it intends to express an idea.” \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where are places where your rights are strongest?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The First Amendment, Thacher said, dates back to a time when locations like marketplaces were considered to be “the centerpiece of a community” — “so public spaces like town squares, sidewalks and other highly visible, publicly-owned pieces of property that are open to the public are where you have the most rights to free speech.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984439\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984439\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco State University students rally outside the Cesar Chavez Student Center on Monday, calling on the university to disclose its financial ties to Israel and divest from weapons manufacturers. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The only thing people’s rights can be subjected to in public spaces is the reasonable time, place and manner restrictions mentioned above. Those restrictions also must be “content-neutral,” meaning it cannot be specific to your speech, Thacher said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, she added that it is a “totally different equation” if you are at someone’s house — since you are there at the invitation of the property owner, not the government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Places where the public is invited at certain times, such as a public library or a public school cafeteria, are in-between spaces sometimes called a “limited public forum,” and “any restrictions of speech there must be viewpoint-neutral and reasonable in light of the forum’s purpose,” Thacher said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What does the law say about campuses?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Legal experts have interpreted the First Amendment to mean that \u003ca href=\"https://stanfordmag.org/contents/what-the-law-says-about-campus-free-speech\">\u003cem>public \u003c/em>institutions are restricted from punishing speech\u003c/a>. However, California also has \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=EDC§ionNum=94367.\">Leonard’s Law\u003c/a> that \u003ca href=\"https://freeexpression.usc.edu/about-freedom-of-expression-at-usc/leonard-law/\">“prohibits private universities from making or enforcing a rule that subjects an enrolled student to disciplinary sanctions solely on the basis of speech protected by the First Amendment,” \u003c/a>according to the University of Southern California’s website.[aside postID=news_11984625 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-27-GC-KQED-1020x680.jpg']Dan Mogulof, assistant vice chancellor of public affairs at UC Berkeley \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101905545/whats-next-for-pro-palestinian-campus-protests\">told KQED Forum on Tuesday \u003c/a>that the University of California had changed its policy on responding to “non-violent political protests” after \u003ca href=\"https://www.dailydemocrat.com/2021/11/18/10-years-later-uc-davis-implements-change-following-pepper-spraying-incident/\">the 2012 Occupy Wall Street movement in which an officer pepper-sprayed a group of UC Davis protesters\u003c/a>. (UC Davis\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/politics/joegarofoli/article/UC-Davis-pepper-spray-officer-awarded-38-000-4920773.php\"> settled a federal lawsuit\u003c/a> with the students, paying around $1 million to the affected protesters.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That policy requires us not to call in law enforcement preemptively, and only when there’s a clear, imminent threat to the campus, to life, safety and to the safety of the campus community,” Mogulof said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What about protesting on roads?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Bridges and highways are considered open public spaces — and public forums — but they are subject to safety and traffic issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There can be civil disobedience. That could be a way of advocating for a cause, but it’s not protected First Amendment right to do that because the public and the government can have a compelling interest in making sure that those roadways and spaces are open and safe,” Thacher said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, she noted that, in her opinion, “a lot of the times, the justification of public safety gets overused to punish protesters and speakers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What can protesters actually be arrested for?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“If you are looking to exercise your right to free speech lawfully and peacefully, you should not be arrested,” Thacher said. “But sometimes things happen.”[aside postID=news_11984645 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240423-BERKELEY-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-1020x680.jpg']People at protests may be arrested under suspicion of any crime, but here are some of the most common reasons:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Unlawful assembly\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Failure to disperse\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Disturbing the peace\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Resisting arrest\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Trespassing\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Vandalism\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Property destruction\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Disruption to traffic and safety of vehicles\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Thacher explained there is a scale from infraction, misdemeanor and felony:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Infraction: \u003c/strong>This can be something like a traffic ticket. There’s no jail time.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Misdemeanor:\u003c/strong> An offense that can be punishable by up to one year in jail.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Felony:\u003c/strong> This can be more than one year in prison.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>What happens to a person after they’re arrested depends on the case, Thacher said. A person could be given a citation to appear at a later court date or be given a ticket for an infraction. They may need to sign the ticket, saying there is no need to take them into custody because they promised to appear in court. A person could also be taken into custody at the police department and booked into jail.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you are detained and the police say you’re not free to leave, you still don’t have to give a statement or submit or answer any questions,” said Rachel Lederman, an attorney with Partnership for Civil Justice Fund and with the Center for Protest Law and Litigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If police are seeking to question you when you’re under arrest when you’re taken into the jail, you will have to answer some basic booking questions,” Lederman told KQED in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11955465/dolores-hill-bomb-legal-rights-spectator-onlooker\">2023 after San Francisco police arrested over a hundred people — most of whom were minors — at an annual “hill bomb” event\u003c/a>. “But you don’t have to answer questions about the incident that has led to your arrest.” She said people may not want to give statements or interviews until they consult an attorney (\u003ca href=\"https://www.justia.com/criminal/procedure/miranda-rights/right-to-silence/#:~:text=The%20Fifth%20Amendment%20states%20that,or%20shortly%20after%20an%20arrest.\">invoking your right to remain silent\u003c/a>).\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Do you have to comply with a police officer’s orders during a protest?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>If a police officer asks for your ID during a protest:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In California, if you are not being arrested, you do not need to show your ID or give your name to a police officer when asked for it — “although sometimes it’s a judgment call about whether that might arouse suspicion,” Lederman said. \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/immigrants-rights#:~:text=You%20have%20the%20right%20to,against%20you%20in%20immigration%20court.\">Officers in California can’t also ask about your immigration status\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In California, “non-drivers cannot be lawfully arrested solely for refusing to provide identification to a police officer,” Thacher said. “But we do know of instances where police officers make the arrest anyway,” she warned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984654\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984654\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jim Martinez, also known as the protest cheerleader, shouts at the May Day rally during International Worker’s Day in the Mission on Wednesday, May 1, 2024. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>If a police officer asks you to move during a protest:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It depends, Thacher said. Some things people should note at the scene include: Why is the officer asking you to leave, and how are they asking you to leave? Do people have the ability to comply with the order, and can you do it reasonably without being put at risk of getting hurt? Are they asking you to move, and you don’t have time to move because it is such a packed crowd?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The officers have the right to ask you to move in certain circumstances, like for public safety … [or] if there’s traffic violations starting to happen,” she said. But “the police can’t ask you to leave and then immediately turn around and arrest you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Penal Code states that \u003ca href=\"https://law.justia.com/codes/california/code-pen/part-1/title-11/section-409/#:~:text=Previous%20Next-,409.,is%20guilty%20of%20a%20misdemeanor.\">“[e]very person remaining present at the place of any riot, rout, or unlawful assembly, after the same has been lawfully warned to disperse … is guilty of a misdemeanor”\u003c/a> and that also \u003ca href=\"https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-148/?DCMP=google:ppc:TRLNA:21219027752:697523562873:161386574133&HBX_PK=&sid=9061275&source=google~ppc&tsid=latlppc&gad_source=5&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9oapzZDrhQMVfM7CBB2dhAdrEAAYASAAEgLSGvD_BwE\">anyone who “willfully resists, delays, or obstructs” an officer in the line of duty can be punished\u003c/a> by a fine and/or imprisonment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What should you do if you think a police officer violated your rights at a protest?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Thacher said \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871364/recording-the-police-what-to-know-and-how-to-stay-safe-doing-it\">people should take note and record details\u003c/a> about encounters with officers, especially when people believe their rights may be violated, such as an officer calling people to disperse in a tightly packed crowd. Some things a person should make note of include:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>The time and date\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The location\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The officer’s badge numbers and names\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Patrol car numbers\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>How often it was said \u003cem>where \u003c/em>you were directed to go\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>“All of that stuff can be important when you’re trying to go back and understand what happened to you,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If someone thinks their rights have been violated, they can take their notes and footage to a legal expert to understand the situation more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Russell, the Santa Clara University School assistant professor, said that if you are a student on a public or private college campus, file a grievance with the school’s relevant office and provide specific details of what happened. Russel said people should also contact their local ACLU’s advice line to provide details. If one can afford legal counsel, groups like the National Lawyers Guild can assist protesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Think about what your goal is as a protester, and protect yourself accordingly,” she wrote in an email, adding that reputable groups to learn about your rights include one’s local ACLU, Amnesty International and the NAACP. “Educate yourself about civil disobedience and protest rights.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>When does lawful protest become ‘civil disobedience,’ and why do protesters choose this?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Civil disobedience is “the refusal to comply with lawful orders as a form of protest,” Thacher said. For example, when an officer calls for dispersal and people do not move, that is when it goes from protected speech to an act of civil disobedience. It is also \u003ca href=\"https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/civil-disobedience/\">non-violent\u003c/a> by its nature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the most well-known examples of civil disobedience is the 1950s demonstrations by Martin Luther King Jr. during the civil rights movement, which frequently \u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/26/history-tying-up-traffic-civil-rights-00011825\">involved blocking roads and highways\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11975873\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11975873\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters block traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge on Feb. 14, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juan Carlos Lara/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People can choose to practice civil disobedience as a peaceful form of political protest,” Thacher said. “They can mix that with other activities that are protected by the First Amendment, such as lawful assemblies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seth Morrison from the Bay Area chapter of Jewish Voice for Peace told \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">KQED in 2023\u003c/a> that he would advise would-be protesters contemplating civil disobedience to “consider it carefully and think about the pros and cons … But if you and a good group of people are deeply committed to an issue — if you’ve done your research and if you have tried through normal channels and not gotten a response — civil disobedience is something you should think about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thacher said that while the First Amendment \u003cem>may \u003c/em>not protect activities like blocking a bridge as the goal of the protest, this kind of action could be an effective act of civil disobedience nonetheless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of times protests and civil disobedience can be put under the same umbrella of ‘civil unrest,’ and then everyone thinks it’s all the same thing,” she said. “But protest and exercising your right to demonstrate and peacefully assemble is protected.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/amadrigal\">Alexis Madrigal\u003c/a> contributed to this story. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In California, protesters have legal rights protected by the First Amendment, but understanding what actions may lead to arrest is essential when participating in protests on various issues.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1714777826,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":50,"wordCount":3156},"headData":{"title":"Know Your Rights: California Protesters' Legal Standing Under the First Amendment | KQED","description":"In California, protesters have legal rights protected by the First Amendment, but understanding what actions may lead to arrest is essential when participating in protests on various issues.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Know Your Rights: California Protesters' Legal Standing Under the First 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months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These protests — especially the latest actions across college campuses — have been met in California with police presence, arrests and even the threat of further legal action against those involved. Videos last week showed \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/lapd-marches-towards-usc-protesters-209660485756\">Los Angeles police officers marching into the University of Southern California\u003c/a> to break up pro-Palestinian encampments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this month, California State Assemblymember Kate Sanchez introduced \u003ca href=\"https://www.courthousenews.com/california-bill-would-create-new-infraction-for-protesters-who-block-highways/\">a bill to create a new infraction\u003c/a> for obstructing highways during protests that affect emergency vehicles. In San Francisco, District Attorney Brooke Jenkins announced that she is considering \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983413/could-protesters-who-shut-down-golden-gate-bridge-be-charged-with-false-imprisonment\">the possibility of charging a group of pro-Palestinian protesters with a felony\u003c/a> for blocking the Golden Gate Bridge, which was met with concerns from civil rights advocates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11975868\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11975868\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED.jpg\" alt='People hold up a banner that reads \"Stop Arming Israel\" across the Golden Gate Bridge, blocking traffic.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-01-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pro-Palestinian protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza briefly block traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge on the morning of Feb. 14, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juan Carlos Lara/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Many of these protests have focused specifically on the United States’ financial support of Israel, which is now over six months into its siege of Gaza.\u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-strike-rafah-kill-13-gaza-death-toll-surpass-34000/\"> Israeli forces have killed over 34,000 Palestinians\u003c/a>, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry. This is since Hamas’ attack on Oct. 7, which killed some 1,200 people, according to the Israeli government. (\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/gaza/\">Follow KQED’s coverage of the war and its impact on the Bay Area community\u003c/a>, and read more from NPR about the decades-long conflict in its \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/series/1205445976/middle-east-crisis\">Middle East crisis — explained series\u003c/a>)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Lawful protests are, by design, meant to be visible and inconvenient,” said ACLU Northern California’s legal director, Shilpi Agarwal, in response to Jenkins’ announcement of possible charges against the protesters who shut down the Golden Gate Bridge. “Lawful protests often create roadblocks or shut down streets or create traffic.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Margaret Russell — an assistant law professor at Santa Clara University School — said she discussed the protests with \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11984645/photos-campus-protests-grow-across-bay-area\">undergraduate and graduate students\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As the arrests and violence increase, people become fearful of what might happen to them even if they protest peacefully,” she wrote in an email to KQED. “Will they get caught up in an altercation and be arrested? Their determination to speak up is ‘chilled’ or silenced.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you choose to join a protest — about any issue you feel strongly about — what are your legal rights in California? How much does the First Amendment protect protesters, and what can protesters be arrested for? Keep reading for what to know about protesting and the law, and read our other guides to:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821950/how-to-safely-attend-a-protest-in-the-bay-area\">Attending a rally safely in the Bay Area\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11821950/how-to-safely-attend-a-protest-in-the-bay-area\">How to film the police\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11955465/dolores-hill-bomb-legal-rights-spectator-onlooker\">Your rights as a spectator\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>And remember: If you’re unable to join a rally or protest in person for whatever reason but want to make your stance on any issue known, you always have the option to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">contact your elected officials to express your opinions\u003c/a>. For more information on what “call your reps” actually means, how to do it, and what to expect as a result, read our explainer: \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">How Can I Call My Representative? A Step-by-Step Guide to the Process\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What is the First Amendment, and what does it cover during a protest?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects five basic rights: freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, peaceful assembly and petitioning the government. (The \u003ca href=\"https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/#:~:text=Congress%20shall%20make%20no%20law,for%20a%20redress%20of%20grievances.\">text in full\u003c/a> reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California also has its own expansive free speech provisions under \u003ca href=\"https://law.justia.com/constitution/california/article-i/section-2/#:~:text=SEC.,liberty%20of%20speech%20or%20press.\">Article 1, Section 2\u003c/a> of the state’s constitution that protect and reaffirm many of these rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984815\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984815\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/240415-880GazaProtest-056-BL_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">California Highway Patrol officers ask for people to disperse after demonstrators shut down the southbound lanes of I-880 on the morning of April 15, 2024, in West Oakland. The protesters, engaging in a multi-city ‘economic blockade in solidarity with Palestine,’ marched from the West Oakland BART station to the 7th Street on-ramp and onto the freeway. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“These rights are all really powerful, and they protect our democracy,” said Chessie Thacher, senior attorney with ACLU NorCal’s Democracy and Civic Engagement Program. “But they’re not unlimited, and they depend on various factors.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of those factors, Thacher said, include:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>When you’re speaking:\u003c/strong> Even in public spaces, the government can impose what is known as \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11983413/could-protesters-who-shut-down-golden-gate-bridge-be-charged-with-false-imprisonment\">“time, place and manner restrictions” that dictate certain parameters to try to ensure safety.\u003c/a> An example, Thacher said, is that the city can prevent people from using a loud bullhorn at 2 a.m. in a city square because people may be sleeping. But they can’t stop a person from using the same bullhorn at lunch hour the next day.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Where you’re speaking: \u003c/strong>You have a lot of protections in public spaces, like a park or a sidewalk. But if you are speaking at a private location — like someone’s backyard — “you don’t have many speech protections,” Thacher said. The gray area: If you are speaking in a place that is “sort of public, like a school campus or a library,” then your rights to free speech “are somewhere in the middle,” she cautioned. “But even then, the government can’t punish you because they don’t like you.”\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Who’s speaking:\u003c/strong> If you are speaking as a private citizen on your personal time about something of public concern, your speech is protected. Thacher noted, however, that speech is “a lot less protected” if, for example, you work for the government — since someone may think you are speaking \u003cem>for \u003c/em>the government, and “the government has the right to decide its speech for itself,” she said. This can also happen when a teacher or a police officer is a speaker, and people may assume they are speaking on behalf of their workplace.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>What does the First Amendment \u003cem>not \u003c/em>cover when it comes to protesting?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Thacher said there were some misconceptions about the First Amendment to keep in mind:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>It does not mean freedom from consequences:\u003c/strong> While the First Amendment prohibits the government from punishing you for your speech, “it doesn’t protect you from actions that a private employer might take because of your speech,” Thacher said. “It doesn’t protect you from receiving feedback from people about what you’re saying.”\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>It does not protect the \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://freeexpression.usc.edu/activism/hecklers-veto/\">\u003cstrong>“heckler’s veto”\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>:\u003c/strong> Meaning that under the First Amendment, within some boundaries, you don’t have the right to shut down another person’s right to speak. For example, this could include yelling louder than another speaker so that other people cannot hear them.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>It does not protect against \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://pressbooks.pub/civillibertiescasesandmaterials/chapter/fighting-words-and-hate-speech/#:~:text=True%20threats%20involve%20speech%20that,a%20speaker%20against%20another%20individual.\">\u003cstrong>true threats\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>, incitement, fighting words or harassment.\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>The First Amendment also does not protect against \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.georgetown.edu/icap/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2020/12/Law-enforcement-First-Amendment-Guidance.pdf\">“violent or unlawful conduct, even if the person engaging in it intends to express an idea.” \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where are places where your rights are strongest?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The First Amendment, Thacher said, dates back to a time when locations like marketplaces were considered to be “the centerpiece of a community” — “so public spaces like town squares, sidewalks and other highly visible, publicly-owned pieces of property that are open to the public are where you have the most rights to free speech.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984439\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984439\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240429-SFSU-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco State University students rally outside the Cesar Chavez Student Center on Monday, calling on the university to disclose its financial ties to Israel and divest from weapons manufacturers. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The only thing people’s rights can be subjected to in public spaces is the reasonable time, place and manner restrictions mentioned above. Those restrictions also must be “content-neutral,” meaning it cannot be specific to your speech, Thacher said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, she added that it is a “totally different equation” if you are at someone’s house — since you are there at the invitation of the property owner, not the government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Places where the public is invited at certain times, such as a public library or a public school cafeteria, are in-between spaces sometimes called a “limited public forum,” and “any restrictions of speech there must be viewpoint-neutral and reasonable in light of the forum’s purpose,” Thacher said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What does the law say about campuses?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Legal experts have interpreted the First Amendment to mean that \u003ca href=\"https://stanfordmag.org/contents/what-the-law-says-about-campus-free-speech\">\u003cem>public \u003c/em>institutions are restricted from punishing speech\u003c/a>. However, California also has \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=EDC§ionNum=94367.\">Leonard’s Law\u003c/a> that \u003ca href=\"https://freeexpression.usc.edu/about-freedom-of-expression-at-usc/leonard-law/\">“prohibits private universities from making or enforcing a rule that subjects an enrolled student to disciplinary sanctions solely on the basis of speech protected by the First Amendment,” \u003c/a>according to the University of Southern California’s website.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11984625","hero":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-27-GC-KQED-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Dan Mogulof, assistant vice chancellor of public affairs at UC Berkeley \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101905545/whats-next-for-pro-palestinian-campus-protests\">told KQED Forum on Tuesday \u003c/a>that the University of California had changed its policy on responding to “non-violent political protests” after \u003ca href=\"https://www.dailydemocrat.com/2021/11/18/10-years-later-uc-davis-implements-change-following-pepper-spraying-incident/\">the 2012 Occupy Wall Street movement in which an officer pepper-sprayed a group of UC Davis protesters\u003c/a>. (UC Davis\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/politics/joegarofoli/article/UC-Davis-pepper-spray-officer-awarded-38-000-4920773.php\"> settled a federal lawsuit\u003c/a> with the students, paying around $1 million to the affected protesters.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That policy requires us not to call in law enforcement preemptively, and only when there’s a clear, imminent threat to the campus, to life, safety and to the safety of the campus community,” Mogulof said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What about protesting on roads?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Bridges and highways are considered open public spaces — and public forums — but they are subject to safety and traffic issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There can be civil disobedience. That could be a way of advocating for a cause, but it’s not protected First Amendment right to do that because the public and the government can have a compelling interest in making sure that those roadways and spaces are open and safe,” Thacher said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, she noted that, in her opinion, “a lot of the times, the justification of public safety gets overused to punish protesters and speakers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What can protesters actually be arrested for?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“If you are looking to exercise your right to free speech lawfully and peacefully, you should not be arrested,” Thacher said. “But sometimes things happen.”\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11984645","hero":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240423-BERKELEY-GAZA-ENCAMPMENT-MD-09-KQED-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>People at protests may be arrested under suspicion of any crime, but here are some of the most common reasons:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Unlawful assembly\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Failure to disperse\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Disturbing the peace\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Resisting arrest\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Trespassing\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Vandalism\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Property destruction\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Disruption to traffic and safety of vehicles\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Thacher explained there is a scale from infraction, misdemeanor and felony:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Infraction: \u003c/strong>This can be something like a traffic ticket. There’s no jail time.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Misdemeanor:\u003c/strong> An offense that can be punishable by up to one year in jail.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Felony:\u003c/strong> This can be more than one year in prison.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>What happens to a person after they’re arrested depends on the case, Thacher said. A person could be given a citation to appear at a later court date or be given a ticket for an infraction. They may need to sign the ticket, saying there is no need to take them into custody because they promised to appear in court. A person could also be taken into custody at the police department and booked into jail.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you are detained and the police say you’re not free to leave, you still don’t have to give a statement or submit or answer any questions,” said Rachel Lederman, an attorney with Partnership for Civil Justice Fund and with the Center for Protest Law and Litigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If police are seeking to question you when you’re under arrest when you’re taken into the jail, you will have to answer some basic booking questions,” Lederman told KQED in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11955465/dolores-hill-bomb-legal-rights-spectator-onlooker\">2023 after San Francisco police arrested over a hundred people — most of whom were minors — at an annual “hill bomb” event\u003c/a>. “But you don’t have to answer questions about the incident that has led to your arrest.” She said people may not want to give statements or interviews until they consult an attorney (\u003ca href=\"https://www.justia.com/criminal/procedure/miranda-rights/right-to-silence/#:~:text=The%20Fifth%20Amendment%20states%20that,or%20shortly%20after%20an%20arrest.\">invoking your right to remain silent\u003c/a>).\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Do you have to comply with a police officer’s orders during a protest?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>If a police officer asks for your ID during a protest:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In California, if you are not being arrested, you do not need to show your ID or give your name to a police officer when asked for it — “although sometimes it’s a judgment call about whether that might arouse suspicion,” Lederman said. \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/immigrants-rights#:~:text=You%20have%20the%20right%20to,against%20you%20in%20immigration%20court.\">Officers in California can’t also ask about your immigration status\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In California, “non-drivers cannot be lawfully arrested solely for refusing to provide identification to a police officer,” Thacher said. “But we do know of instances where police officers make the arrest anyway,” she warned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11984654\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11984654\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/20240501_MAYDAYRALLY-25-GC-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jim Martinez, also known as the protest cheerleader, shouts at the May Day rally during International Worker’s Day in the Mission on Wednesday, May 1, 2024. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>If a police officer asks you to move during a protest:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It depends, Thacher said. Some things people should note at the scene include: Why is the officer asking you to leave, and how are they asking you to leave? Do people have the ability to comply with the order, and can you do it reasonably without being put at risk of getting hurt? Are they asking you to move, and you don’t have time to move because it is such a packed crowd?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The officers have the right to ask you to move in certain circumstances, like for public safety … [or] if there’s traffic violations starting to happen,” she said. But “the police can’t ask you to leave and then immediately turn around and arrest you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Penal Code states that \u003ca href=\"https://law.justia.com/codes/california/code-pen/part-1/title-11/section-409/#:~:text=Previous%20Next-,409.,is%20guilty%20of%20a%20misdemeanor.\">“[e]very person remaining present at the place of any riot, rout, or unlawful assembly, after the same has been lawfully warned to disperse … is guilty of a misdemeanor”\u003c/a> and that also \u003ca href=\"https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-148/?DCMP=google:ppc:TRLNA:21219027752:697523562873:161386574133&HBX_PK=&sid=9061275&source=google~ppc&tsid=latlppc&gad_source=5&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9oapzZDrhQMVfM7CBB2dhAdrEAAYASAAEgLSGvD_BwE\">anyone who “willfully resists, delays, or obstructs” an officer in the line of duty can be punished\u003c/a> by a fine and/or imprisonment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What should you do if you think a police officer violated your rights at a protest?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Thacher said \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871364/recording-the-police-what-to-know-and-how-to-stay-safe-doing-it\">people should take note and record details\u003c/a> about encounters with officers, especially when people believe their rights may be violated, such as an officer calling people to disperse in a tightly packed crowd. Some things a person should make note of include:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>The time and date\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The location\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The officer’s badge numbers and names\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Patrol car numbers\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>How often it was said \u003cem>where \u003c/em>you were directed to go\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>“All of that stuff can be important when you’re trying to go back and understand what happened to you,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If someone thinks their rights have been violated, they can take their notes and footage to a legal expert to understand the situation more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Russell, the Santa Clara University School assistant professor, said that if you are a student on a public or private college campus, file a grievance with the school’s relevant office and provide specific details of what happened. Russel said people should also contact their local ACLU’s advice line to provide details. If one can afford legal counsel, groups like the National Lawyers Guild can assist protesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Think about what your goal is as a protester, and protect yourself accordingly,” she wrote in an email, adding that reputable groups to learn about your rights include one’s local ACLU, Amnesty International and the NAACP. “Educate yourself about civil disobedience and protest rights.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>When does lawful protest become ‘civil disobedience,’ and why do protesters choose this?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Civil disobedience is “the refusal to comply with lawful orders as a form of protest,” Thacher said. For example, when an officer calls for dispersal and people do not move, that is when it goes from protected speech to an act of civil disobedience. It is also \u003ca href=\"https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/civil-disobedience/\">non-violent\u003c/a> by its nature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the most well-known examples of civil disobedience is the 1950s demonstrations by Martin Luther King Jr. during the civil rights movement, which frequently \u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/26/history-tying-up-traffic-civil-rights-00011825\">involved blocking roads and highways\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11975873\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11975873\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/240214-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-PROTEST-JCL-02-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters block traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge on Feb. 14, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juan Carlos Lara/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People can choose to practice civil disobedience as a peaceful form of political protest,” Thacher said. “They can mix that with other activities that are protected by the First Amendment, such as lawful assemblies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seth Morrison from the Bay Area chapter of Jewish Voice for Peace told \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11967439/how-can-i-call-my-representative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-the-process\">KQED in 2023\u003c/a> that he would advise would-be protesters contemplating civil disobedience to “consider it carefully and think about the pros and cons … But if you and a good group of people are deeply committed to an issue — if you’ve done your research and if you have tried through normal channels and not gotten a response — civil disobedience is something you should think about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thacher said that while the First Amendment \u003cem>may \u003c/em>not protect activities like blocking a bridge as the goal of the protest, this kind of action could be an effective act of civil disobedience nonetheless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of times protests and civil disobedience can be put under the same umbrella of ‘civil unrest,’ and then everyone thinks it’s all the same thing,” she said. “But protest and exercising your right to demonstrate and peacefully assemble is protected.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/amadrigal\">Alexis Madrigal\u003c/a> contributed to this story. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11984807/know-your-rights-california-protesters-legal-standing-under-the-first-amendment","authors":["11867"],"categories":["news_31795","news_8"],"tags":["news_32707","news_18538","news_34008","news_4750","news_23960","news_6631","news_33333","news_745"],"featImg":"news_11984510","label":"news"},"forum_2010101904491":{"type":"posts","id":"forum_2010101904491","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"forum","id":"2010101904491","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"berkeley-perfumer-mandy-aftel-on-the-curious-and-wondrous-world-of-fragrance","title":"Berkeley Perfumer Mandy Aftel on the 'Curious and Wondrous World of Fragrance'","publishDate":1706224918,"format":"audio","headTitle":"Berkeley Perfumer Mandy Aftel on the ‘Curious and Wondrous World of Fragrance’ | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"forum"},"content":"\u003cp>“You don’t just smell an aroma; you fall into it,” writes artisan perfumer Mandy Aftel. 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And entering her exquisite small museum, the Aftel Archive of Curious Scents, tucked into a backyard in Berkeley, is to fall into an ancient, mysterious world. Amid centuries-old books, bottles and curios are natural fragrances that come from the secretions of civets and the bowels of sperm whales, as well as from resins, rare flowers, roots and so much more. We talk to Aftel about her collection, the art of building a fragrance, and her new book, “The Museum of Scent: Exploring the Curious and Wondrous World of Fragrance”.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/forum/2010101904491/berkeley-perfumer-mandy-aftel-on-the-curious-and-wondrous-world-of-fragrance","authors":["11757"],"categories":["forum_165"],"featImg":"forum_2010101904492","label":"forum"},"news_11627401":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11627401","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11627401","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"welcome-to-rough-and-ready-the-tiny-town-that-used-to-be-a-republic","title":"Welcome to Rough and Ready, the Tiny Town That Used to Be a Republic","publishDate":1509749940,"format":"audio","headTitle":"A Place Called What?! | The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was originally published in November 2017 as part of The California Report Magazine's \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/series/a-place-called-what\">A Place Called What?!\u003c/a>\" series. It re-aired on July 3rd, 2020 for a special show called \"Buckle Up: A (Virtual) Road Trip to CA Hidden Gems.\" \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jayna Ashcraft and her husband have lived in Rough and Ready for 17 years. But when she tells people where she lives, sometimes they don't believe her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They go, 'Are you kidding me?' \" Ashcraft says. \"When I've ordered stuff from different companies, they call back to double-check, making sure that is in fact Rough and Ready.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To add to the disbelief, the Ashcrafts also live on To Hell and Back Lane. \"I think that kind of makes people shocked,\" she tells me. \"Or they laugh. Usually it's a good laugh.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rough and Ready is a Nevada County town about 5 miles west of Grass Valley, but don't let its size fool you. This tiny place has a big, presidential history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627915\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11627915 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-800x523.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"523\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-800x523.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-160x105.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-1020x666.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-1180x771.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-960x627.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-240x157.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-375x245.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-520x340.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482.jpg 1704w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The old Fippin Blacksmith shop in Rough and Ready. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627922\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11627922\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"481\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut-375x282.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut-520x391.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jayna and Craig Ashcraft in front of the Fippin Blacksmith shop. \u003ccite>(Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Rough and Ready got its name from Captain A.A. Townsend, who served under President Zachary Taylor, whose nickname was \"Old Rough and Ready.\" When Townsend arrived in 1849 and found some mineable gold, he reported back to his president and named the town after him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ashcraft says history is a big part of what makes living in Rough and Ready special.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's that kind of community where we're very involved with our little town. We're very proud of our history.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there's plenty of present-day charm here, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZUKTQkIbso\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When we first got here I was very charmed by a group called the Fruit Jar Pickers,\" says Ashcraft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They were just starting out with a group of maybe six men at the time, who would just get together on the front porch of the market and play homemade instruments.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627920\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11627920 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-800x501.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"501\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-800x501.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-160x100.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-1020x639.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-1180x740.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-960x602.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-240x150.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-375x235.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-520x326.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551.jpg 1723w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Grange in 1848. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627919\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 375px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11627919\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27818_Grange-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"375\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27818_Grange-qut.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27818_Grange-qut-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27818_Grange-qut-240x320.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 375px) 100vw, 375px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Grange today. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If you visit Rough and Ready, you'll see stores selling hats, flags and mugs emblazoned with \"The Great Republic of Rough and Ready.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This \u003c/em>name comes from a moment in history when the townspeople of Rough and Ready decided to secede from the nation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"UzEb4PFz6mnZ1mIab22qYNrPLgI6bEqe\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was 1850, and the townspeople didn't want to be taxed without government representation. They took a vote and sent paperwork to Washington, D.C.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Great Republic didn't last too long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Three months later ... some of the townspeople who went to Nevada City to purchase booze for their celebration were not allowed to do so because they were 'foreigners.' They went back to the town and decided to join the nation again,\" Ashcraft says with a laugh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627927\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11627927\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-800x761.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"761\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-800x761.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-160x152.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-240x228.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-375x357.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-520x495.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut.jpg 802w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The oldest headstone in the Rough and Ready Cemetery, where the Ashcrafts plan to be buried. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ashcraft and her husband have no plans to leave Rough and Ready anytime soon. In fact, they just bought their plot in the old cemetery where they want to be buried.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ashcraft thinks this is a place that all Californians should stop and visit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think if you're just driving down the road, you're going to blink and miss it. There's so much more there. Don’t pass history by!\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As part of our series on unusual California place names, we stop by the Great Republic of Rough and Ready, a tiny town with a big, presidential history.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1593650505,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":593},"headData":{"title":"Welcome to Rough and Ready, the Tiny Town That Used to Be a Republic | KQED","description":"As part of our series on unusual California place names, we stop by the Great Republic of Rough and Ready, a tiny town with a big, presidential history.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Welcome to Rough and Ready, the Tiny Town That Used to Be a Republic","datePublished":"2017-11-03T22:59:00.000Z","dateModified":"2020-07-02T00:41:45.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11627401 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11627401","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/11/03/welcome-to-rough-and-ready-the-tiny-town-that-used-to-be-a-republic/","disqusTitle":"Welcome to Rough and Ready, the Tiny Town That Used to Be a Republic","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcrmag/2017/11/RoughAndReady.mp3","path":"/news/11627401/welcome-to-rough-and-ready-the-tiny-town-that-used-to-be-a-republic","audioDuration":191000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was originally published in November 2017 as part of The California Report Magazine's \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/series/a-place-called-what\">A Place Called What?!\u003c/a>\" series. It re-aired on July 3rd, 2020 for a special show called \"Buckle Up: A (Virtual) Road Trip to CA Hidden Gems.\" \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jayna Ashcraft and her husband have lived in Rough and Ready for 17 years. But when she tells people where she lives, sometimes they don't believe her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They go, 'Are you kidding me?' \" Ashcraft says. \"When I've ordered stuff from different companies, they call back to double-check, making sure that is in fact Rough and Ready.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To add to the disbelief, the Ashcrafts also live on To Hell and Back Lane. \"I think that kind of makes people shocked,\" she tells me. \"Or they laugh. Usually it's a good laugh.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rough and Ready is a Nevada County town about 5 miles west of Grass Valley, but don't let its size fool you. This tiny place has a big, presidential history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627915\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11627915 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-800x523.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"523\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-800x523.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-160x105.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-1020x666.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-1180x771.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-960x627.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-240x157.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-375x245.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482-520x340.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27820_Fippin-Blacksmith-Shop-1897-1902-qut-e1509732522482.jpg 1704w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The old Fippin Blacksmith shop in Rough and Ready. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627922\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11627922\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"481\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut-375x282.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27830_IMG_4880-qut-520x391.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jayna and Craig Ashcraft in front of the Fippin Blacksmith shop. \u003ccite>(Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Rough and Ready got its name from Captain A.A. Townsend, who served under President Zachary Taylor, whose nickname was \"Old Rough and Ready.\" When Townsend arrived in 1849 and found some mineable gold, he reported back to his president and named the town after him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ashcraft says history is a big part of what makes living in Rough and Ready special.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's that kind of community where we're very involved with our little town. We're very proud of our history.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there's plenty of present-day charm here, too.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/cZUKTQkIbso'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/cZUKTQkIbso'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\"When we first got here I was very charmed by a group called the Fruit Jar Pickers,\" says Ashcraft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They were just starting out with a group of maybe six men at the time, who would just get together on the front porch of the market and play homemade instruments.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627920\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11627920 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-800x501.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"501\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-800x501.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-160x100.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-1020x639.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-1180x740.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-960x602.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-240x150.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-375x235.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551-520x326.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27823_Grange-1948-qut-e1509732751551.jpg 1723w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Grange in 1848. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627919\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 375px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11627919\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27818_Grange-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"375\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27818_Grange-qut.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27818_Grange-qut-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27818_Grange-qut-240x320.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 375px) 100vw, 375px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Grange today. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If you visit Rough and Ready, you'll see stores selling hats, flags and mugs emblazoned with \"The Great Republic of Rough and Ready.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This \u003c/em>name comes from a moment in history when the townspeople of Rough and Ready decided to secede from the nation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was 1850, and the townspeople didn't want to be taxed without government representation. They took a vote and sent paperwork to Washington, D.C.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Great Republic didn't last too long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Three months later ... some of the townspeople who went to Nevada City to purchase booze for their celebration were not allowed to do so because they were 'foreigners.' They went back to the town and decided to join the nation again,\" Ashcraft says with a laugh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627927\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11627927\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-800x761.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"761\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-800x761.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-160x152.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-240x228.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-375x357.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut-520x495.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/RS27831_Buffington-Headstone-qut.jpg 802w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The oldest headstone in the Rough and Ready Cemetery, where the Ashcrafts plan to be buried. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jayna Ashcraft)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ashcraft and her husband have no plans to leave Rough and Ready anytime soon. In fact, they just bought their plot in the old cemetery where they want to be buried.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ashcraft thinks this is a place that all Californians should stop and visit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think if you're just driving down the road, you're going to blink and miss it. There's so much more there. Don’t pass history by!\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11627401/welcome-to-rough-and-ready-the-tiny-town-that-used-to-be-a-republic","authors":["11365"],"programs":["news_72"],"series":["news_21844"],"categories":["news_223","news_8"],"tags":["news_20397","news_1368","news_5930","news_17286"],"featImg":"news_11628041","label":"news_72"},"forum_2010101905607":{"type":"posts","id":"forum_2010101905607","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"forum","id":"2010101905607","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-puc-considers-new-fixed-charge-for-electricity","title":"California PUC Considers New Fixed Charge for Electricity","publishDate":1714688019,"format":"audio","headTitle":"California PUC Considers New Fixed Charge for Electricity | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"forum"},"content":"\u003cp>Beginning as early as next year you might see a new fixed monthly charge of up to $24 on your electric bill. That’s if the California Public Utilities Commission approves a proposal to rework how we pay for power. The CPUC, which is taking a vote next week, says that the new charge would lower electricity costs for many Californians. But the reality is more complicated. We take a close look and hear what’s driving high electricity prices in the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"We take a close look and hear what's driving high electricity prices in the state.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1714762385,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":3,"wordCount":87},"headData":{"title":"California PUC Considers New Fixed Charge for Electricity | KQED","description":"We take a close look and hear what's driving high electricity prices in the state.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"California PUC Considers New Fixed Charge for Electricity","datePublished":"2024-05-02T22:13:39.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-03T18:53:05.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"audioUrl":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chrt.fm/track/G6C7C3/traffic.megaphone.fm/KQINC8195160969.mp3?updated=1714762491","airdate":1714755600,"forumGuests":[{"name":"Ben Christopher","bio":"reporter, CalMatters"},{"name":"Loretta Lynch","bio":"former President, California Public Utilities Commission"}],"sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/forum/2010101905607/california-puc-considers-new-fixed-charge-for-electricity","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Beginning as early as next year you might see a new fixed monthly charge of up to $24 on your electric bill. That’s if the California Public Utilities Commission approves a proposal to rework how we pay for power. The CPUC, which is taking a vote next week, says that the new charge would lower electricity costs for many Californians. But the reality is more complicated. 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Eventually, they went to college and Stokes began volunteering at a community radio station during the pandemic. She met her friend and drummer Sean Aaron there and the two began performing as a duo. The other band members would later join through connections at the radio station and other friends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stokes also runs a small nonprofit organization called Big Leap Collective that throws accessible community concerts within the Bay Area and beyond. 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If I wanted to have this option in the future, if I wanted to have children, I’d have to get my eggs frozen.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was able to have a different procedure done instead that helped her manage pain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I know they’re just, there’s so many people out there who don’t have that access and it just feels like they aren’t getting listened to,” she said. “Everyone deserves a chance to be able to feel good in their body.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The band’s members include Sean Aaron, Alejandro Lara-Agraz, Spencer Lay, Eva Gogas, Jack Lillian. If you’d like to hear them live, Grooblen will be performing at \u003ca href=\"https://www.neckofthewoodssf.com/tm-event/swiss-grooblen-loolowningentoyko-aaron-space-and-his-terrestrial-underlings/\">Neck of the Woods\u003c/a> in San Francisco on May 22.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In this episode of the Sunday Music Drop, the San Francisco-based “cabaret dream psych band” Grooblen shares their song \"Egg Freeze\" about being on guard for uncertainties in life.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1714955442,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":472},"headData":{"title":"Grooblen: 'Egg Freeze' | KQED","description":"In this episode of the Sunday Music Drop, the San Francisco-based “cabaret dream psych band” Grooblen shares their song "Egg Freeze" about being on guard for uncertainties in life.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Grooblen: 'Egg Freeze'","datePublished":"2024-05-06T00:30:42.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-06T00:30:42.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"source":"Sunday Music Drop","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/sundaymusicdrop","audioUrl":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/SMD_GROOBLEN_240505-1.mp3","sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-11985041","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985041/grooblen-egg-freeze","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/sundaymusicdrop\">The Sunday Music Drop is a weekly radio series hosted by the KQED weekend news team.\u003c/a> In each segment, we feature a song from a local musician or band with an upcoming show and hear about what inspires their music.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vocalist and guitarist Ellie Stokes of the San Francisco-based “cabaret dream psych band” Grooblen found her true love for rock when she was able to participate in the SF Rock Project, a nonprofit music school for youth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was introduced to so many people in the music community — just intergenerationally — from a very young age because we played a lot of, like, street festivals, like Sunday streets, we played a lot of community events,” said Stokes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stokes formed the band initially with her brother and a family friend, who played songs she had written over the years. 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In a new memoir called \u003cem>Possible: How We Survive (and Thrive) in an Age of Conflict,\u003c/em> Ury says conflict can “produce better ideas and, ultimately, better relationships.” We talk to Ury, who’s also the author of the bestselling book \u003cem>Getting to Yes\u003c/em>, about his nearly 50-year career as a negotiator in conflicts around the globe. And we’ll learn how to apply his conflict resolution strategies to our everyday lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1711479460,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":3,"wordCount":106},"headData":{"title":"Negotiation Expert William Ury on Why Conflict Is Good For Us | KQED","description":"For many of us, conflict is something to be avoided, but according to longtime negotiation and mediation expert William Ury, we actually need more conflict in our lives. In a new memoir called Possible: How We Survive (and Thrive) in an Age of Conflict, Ury says conflict can “produce better ideas and, ultimately, better relationships.” We talk to Ury, who’s also the author of the bestselling book Getting to Yes, about his nearly 50-year career as a negotiator in conflicts around the globe. And we’ll learn how to apply his conflict resolution strategies to our everyday lives.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Negotiation Expert William Ury on Why Conflict Is Good For Us","datePublished":"2024-03-13T23:03:46.000Z","dateModified":"2024-03-26T18:57:40.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"audioUrl":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chrt.fm/track/G6C7C3/traffic.megaphone.fm/KQINC1649912213.mp3?updated=1710443335","airdate":1710435600,"forumGuests":[{"name":"William Ury","bio":"negotiator and mediator; co-founder, Harvard Program on Negotiation"}],"sticky":false,"templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/forum/2010101905034/negotiation-expert-william-ury-on-why-conflict-is-good-for-us","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>For many of us, conflict is something to be avoided, but according to longtime negotiation and mediation expert William Ury, we actually need more conflict in our lives. In a new memoir called \u003cem>Possible: How We Survive (and Thrive) in an Age of Conflict,\u003c/em> Ury says conflict can “produce better ideas and, ultimately, better relationships.” We talk to Ury, who’s also the author of the bestselling book \u003cem>Getting to Yes\u003c/em>, about his nearly 50-year career as a negotiator in conflicts around the globe. And we’ll learn how to apply his conflict resolution strategies to our everyday lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/forum/2010101905034/negotiation-expert-william-ury-on-why-conflict-is-good-for-us","authors":["11229"],"categories":["forum_165"],"featImg":"forum_2010101905035","label":"forum"},"news_11180060":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11180060","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11180060","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"in-the-klamath-river-basin-water-rights-are-personal","title":"In the Klamath River Basin, Water Rights Are Personal","publishDate":1479913253,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>You’d think a bird would have an easy time finding a watery rest stop along the over 260-mile-long Klamath River. That should be especially true in the Lower Klamath National Wildlife Refuge, a huge marshland along the Pacific Flyway. But in 2012 a dry year cut water supplies, which then chopped available wetlands in half and accelerated the spread of avian cholera. \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/03/29/avian-cholera-kills-thousands-of-birds-in-northern-california/\" target=\"_blank\">Up to 20,000 birds died off\u003c/a>, including snow geese, ducks and coots. [contextly_sidebar id=\"ghXf9rnPFabzxPxngj4vForak4etwSMY\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Water rights along the Klamath River have always been a matter of survival, and birds aren’t the only ones competing for water -- they're just the last in line. The federal government manages a complex hierarchy of rights along the river, claimed by irrigators, tribes and fish in the two states it runs through: California and Oregon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And shortages are becoming more common. “The challenges we have here are because we’ve promised too much water to too many people,” says Trout Unlimited’s Chrysten Lambert. “We’ve promised more water than there is here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the November election has brought stories of uncertainty and division, in the Klamath Basin a sprawling and unlikely group of allies has been working across political lines for years to establish a sustainable sense of the river. Six years ago, they hashed out a huge compromise deal, to take out dams, sort out rights and allocate water. Without congressional support, that agreement died. But earlier this year, the dams’ owner, PacifiCorp, \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/09/27/will-the-klamath-river-be-renewed-owner-applies-to-remove-4-of-5-dams/\" target=\"_blank\">applied to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to abandon its interests\u003c/a>, a move that doesn’t require congressional approval.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With dam removal now in process, sharing water remains a separate negotiation. Several parties to the original deal confirm talks about water rights and water allocation have begun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11186151\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11186151\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-800x1067.jpg\" alt=\"The headwaters of Upper Klamath Lake, seen from the Wood River Valley in Oregon, are subject to a number of competing water rights from different groups.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-1180x1573.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-960x1280.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-240x320.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-375x500.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-520x693.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The headwaters of Upper Klamath Lake, seen from the Wood River Valley in Oregon, are subject to a number of competing water rights from different groups. \u003ccite>(Chrysten Lambert/Trout Unlimited)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“There is a water allocation that's needed,” says John Bezdek, a special counsel to the federal Secretary of the Interior. He points to the Department of the Interior’s many interests in the region: managing water and dams, managing tribal rights, and maintaining the health of fisheries. “Dam removal makes a lot of that easier, but dam removal does not finish the job on any of that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finishing the job is a delicate operation. Paul Simmons, a lawyer for farmers and ranchers, says water rights are personal here for everyone. “It really is their identity and it’s an essential part of their culture,” he says. “When you start talking about changing that, it certainly is something that raises the stakes or makes the stakes different.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Overlapping and Personal\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Federally recognized tribes in Oregon claim the most senior water rights in the Klamath Basin. Three years ago, the state of Oregon recognized that the Klamath Tribes’ claim on Upper Klamath Lake dates to “time immemorial.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'I want the kids to be able to go down to the river and fish and bring home fish for their family.'\u003ccite>Wendy Ferris-George, a Karuk tribal member\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>In the lower basin, three more tribes in California -- the Karuk, the Yurok and the Hoopa -- claim water, too. And, while their rights vary, they share an interest in keeping enough water in the river to keep fish healthy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wendy Ferris-George, a Karuk tribal member, gets emotional when she talks about it. “I want the kids to be able to go down to the river and fish and bring home fish for their family,” she says, her voice quavering. “I want the grandmothers and grandfathers not to have to worry about their families starving. That’s what’s happening on the river. Our people are living in poverty, but to native people it’s our life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Endangered Species Act also claims water, to sustain and nurture sucker fish in Upper Klamath Lake, and salmon and steelhead downriver. Complicating all of this, farmers and irrigators say they need water first promised to them by the federal government a century ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In recent years, when there’s not enough water, federal and state programs have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on habitat restoration, fishery management, and even emergency aid for farmers. The Department of the Interior’s John Bezdek \u003ca href=\"http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=962447c3-e51d-4fff-8581-da2529d18dec\" target=\"_blank\">says\u003c/a> an agreement would save money in the long run. “I believe that the longer we go without settlement, the more resources are hurting and the more it causes people to re-evaluate where they are,” Bezdek says. “But I also believe that this basin and this group of stakeholders, they’ve been to the edge and back.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Back From The Edge\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11186145\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11186145 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-800x693.jpg\" alt=\"A former G.I. picks a homestead number out of a pickle jar -- one way a number of families ended up in the Klamath Basin.\" width=\"800\" height=\"693\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-800x693.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-160x139.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-1020x884.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-1180x1023.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-960x832.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-240x208.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-375x325.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-520x451.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A former GI picks a homestead number out of a pickle jar -- one way a number of families ended up in the Klamath Basin. \u003ccite>(U.S. Bureau of Reclamation/Courtesy OIT Klamath Waters Collection)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Among those stakeholders are farmers and ranchers on a quarter-million acres of land, some of it former marshes drained by the federal government more than a century ago after it dammed the Klamath and began storing water for irrigation in Upper Klamath Lake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The edge that Bezdek is talking about came 15 years ago, when water shortages forced the federal government to turn off the spigot to more than a quarter-million acres of land. That decision sent guys like Scott Seus, a third-generation farmer in Tulelake, scrambling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And on a busy fall day, Seus hops into a combine to harvest mint. He says he wants to make sure a fourth-generation Seus can farm here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My grandfather was a homesteader here in 1947. He drew a number out of the pickle jar,” says Seus. Former GIs would draw a number and then stick a pin in a map to show where they wanted to homestead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They actually lived in one of the barracks that was part of the Japanese internment camp here,” he says. “The people that survived here were the tough ones. And since 2001, our community gets smaller and smaller, and there’s less and less people here that are survivors.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seus has survived by diversifying risk and cost in his crops. He grows mint, horseradish, onions, garlic and grain. The amount, and his income, depend on the water available.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I've got to know that I've got water next year to get through,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11186150\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11186150\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Scott Seus farms organic mint for tea. His crops are watered by the Klamath River through a federal irrigation project.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-520x390.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Scott Seus farms organic mint for tea. His crops are watered by the Klamath River through a federal irrigation project. \u003ccite>(Molly Peterson/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At the same time, Seus says, he’s gained an understanding of the needs of others along the Klamath. In 2002, a year after his water was shut off, tens of thousands of salmon died downstream, in Yurok country, near Blue Creek. It was a devastating loss to the tribes downriver, and one which galvanized their efforts to remove four dams that have long blocked fish passage up the main stem of the Klamath.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I'm happy for them that they're going to get the dams out ... and it's going to make everything right,” he says, about the tribes, which farmers like him used to only see as opponents. His support is genuine, but tempered. “I'm not here to say, 'Don't do that,' but I am expecting them to understand that I need to farm, too.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Years of drought appear to be ending in the Klamath Basin, and predictions suggest a snowy winter. But Seus still supports an agreement to share water, because he says the real enemy for farmers like him now is doubt. “There is only one path forward,” says Seus. “That's that everybody's got to get back together and try to see this thing through.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several Klamath water users say they don’t know what to expect from the incoming Trump administration. So far, it’s brought uncertainty, the exact thing that guys like Scott Seus try to avoid. For now, water users in this area stand by the idea that the best solution to their problems still lies with each other.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":" 'I want the kids to be able to go down to the river and fish and bring home fish for their family,' says Wendy Ferris-George, Karuk tribal member. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1479927905,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1426},"headData":{"title":"In the Klamath River Basin, Water Rights Are Personal | KQED","description":" 'I want the kids to be able to go down to the river and fish and bring home fish for their family,' says Wendy Ferris-George, Karuk tribal member. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"In the Klamath River Basin, Water Rights Are Personal","datePublished":"2016-11-23T15:00:53.000Z","dateModified":"2016-11-23T19:05:05.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"authorsData":[{"type":"authors","id":"byline_news_11180060","meta":{"override":true},"slug":"byline_news_11180060","name":" Molly Peterson","isLoading":false}],"imageData":{"ogImageSize":{"file":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21499_IMG_4211-qut-1020x680.jpg","width":1020,"height":680,"mimeType":"image/jpeg"},"twImageSize":{"file":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21499_IMG_4211-qut-1020x680.jpg","width":1020,"height":680,"mimeType":"image/jpeg"},"twitterCard":"summary_large_image"},"tagData":{"tags":["Hoopa Valley Tribe","Karuk","Klamath River","tcr","the-california-report-featured","Yurok"]}},"disqusIdentifier":"11180060 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11180060","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/11/23/in-the-klamath-river-basin-water-rights-are-personal/","disqusTitle":"In the Klamath River Basin, Water Rights Are Personal","nprByline":" Molly Peterson","path":"/news/11180060/in-the-klamath-river-basin-water-rights-are-personal","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>You’d think a bird would have an easy time finding a watery rest stop along the over 260-mile-long Klamath River. That should be especially true in the Lower Klamath National Wildlife Refuge, a huge marshland along the Pacific Flyway. But in 2012 a dry year cut water supplies, which then chopped available wetlands in half and accelerated the spread of avian cholera. \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2012/03/29/avian-cholera-kills-thousands-of-birds-in-northern-california/\" target=\"_blank\">Up to 20,000 birds died off\u003c/a>, including snow geese, ducks and coots. \u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Water rights along the Klamath River have always been a matter of survival, and birds aren’t the only ones competing for water -- they're just the last in line. The federal government manages a complex hierarchy of rights along the river, claimed by irrigators, tribes and fish in the two states it runs through: California and Oregon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And shortages are becoming more common. “The challenges we have here are because we’ve promised too much water to too many people,” says Trout Unlimited’s Chrysten Lambert. “We’ve promised more water than there is here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the November election has brought stories of uncertainty and division, in the Klamath Basin a sprawling and unlikely group of allies has been working across political lines for years to establish a sustainable sense of the river. Six years ago, they hashed out a huge compromise deal, to take out dams, sort out rights and allocate water. Without congressional support, that agreement died. But earlier this year, the dams’ owner, PacifiCorp, \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/09/27/will-the-klamath-river-be-renewed-owner-applies-to-remove-4-of-5-dams/\" target=\"_blank\">applied to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to abandon its interests\u003c/a>, a move that doesn’t require congressional approval.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With dam removal now in process, sharing water remains a separate negotiation. Several parties to the original deal confirm talks about water rights and water allocation have begun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11186151\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11186151\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-800x1067.jpg\" alt=\"The headwaters of Upper Klamath Lake, seen from the Wood River Valley in Oregon, are subject to a number of competing water rights from different groups.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-1180x1573.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-960x1280.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-240x320.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-375x500.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21738_Wood-River-Valley-and-Upper-Klamath-Lake-qut-520x693.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The headwaters of Upper Klamath Lake, seen from the Wood River Valley in Oregon, are subject to a number of competing water rights from different groups. \u003ccite>(Chrysten Lambert/Trout Unlimited)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“There is a water allocation that's needed,” says John Bezdek, a special counsel to the federal Secretary of the Interior. He points to the Department of the Interior’s many interests in the region: managing water and dams, managing tribal rights, and maintaining the health of fisheries. “Dam removal makes a lot of that easier, but dam removal does not finish the job on any of that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finishing the job is a delicate operation. Paul Simmons, a lawyer for farmers and ranchers, says water rights are personal here for everyone. “It really is their identity and it’s an essential part of their culture,” he says. “When you start talking about changing that, it certainly is something that raises the stakes or makes the stakes different.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Overlapping and Personal\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Federally recognized tribes in Oregon claim the most senior water rights in the Klamath Basin. Three years ago, the state of Oregon recognized that the Klamath Tribes’ claim on Upper Klamath Lake dates to “time immemorial.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'I want the kids to be able to go down to the river and fish and bring home fish for their family.'\u003ccite>Wendy Ferris-George, a Karuk tribal member\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>In the lower basin, three more tribes in California -- the Karuk, the Yurok and the Hoopa -- claim water, too. And, while their rights vary, they share an interest in keeping enough water in the river to keep fish healthy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wendy Ferris-George, a Karuk tribal member, gets emotional when she talks about it. “I want the kids to be able to go down to the river and fish and bring home fish for their family,” she says, her voice quavering. “I want the grandmothers and grandfathers not to have to worry about their families starving. That’s what’s happening on the river. Our people are living in poverty, but to native people it’s our life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Endangered Species Act also claims water, to sustain and nurture sucker fish in Upper Klamath Lake, and salmon and steelhead downriver. Complicating all of this, farmers and irrigators say they need water first promised to them by the federal government a century ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In recent years, when there’s not enough water, federal and state programs have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on habitat restoration, fishery management, and even emergency aid for farmers. The Department of the Interior’s John Bezdek \u003ca href=\"http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=962447c3-e51d-4fff-8581-da2529d18dec\" target=\"_blank\">says\u003c/a> an agreement would save money in the long run. “I believe that the longer we go without settlement, the more resources are hurting and the more it causes people to re-evaluate where they are,” Bezdek says. “But I also believe that this basin and this group of stakeholders, they’ve been to the edge and back.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Back From The Edge\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11186145\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11186145 size-medium\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-800x693.jpg\" alt=\"A former G.I. picks a homestead number out of a pickle jar -- one way a number of families ended up in the Klamath Basin.\" width=\"800\" height=\"693\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-800x693.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-160x139.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-1020x884.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-1180x1023.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-960x832.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-240x208.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-375x325.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS22890_e-mBOR-29-Jul-2005-1223-BlackBinders-BLB-1249-0001-qut-520x451.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A former GI picks a homestead number out of a pickle jar -- one way a number of families ended up in the Klamath Basin. \u003ccite>(U.S. Bureau of Reclamation/Courtesy OIT Klamath Waters Collection)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Among those stakeholders are farmers and ranchers on a quarter-million acres of land, some of it former marshes drained by the federal government more than a century ago after it dammed the Klamath and began storing water for irrigation in Upper Klamath Lake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The edge that Bezdek is talking about came 15 years ago, when water shortages forced the federal government to turn off the spigot to more than a quarter-million acres of land. That decision sent guys like Scott Seus, a third-generation farmer in Tulelake, scrambling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And on a busy fall day, Seus hops into a combine to harvest mint. He says he wants to make sure a fourth-generation Seus can farm here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My grandfather was a homesteader here in 1947. He drew a number out of the pickle jar,” says Seus. Former GIs would draw a number and then stick a pin in a map to show where they wanted to homestead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They actually lived in one of the barracks that was part of the Japanese internment camp here,” he says. “The people that survived here were the tough ones. And since 2001, our community gets smaller and smaller, and there’s less and less people here that are survivors.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seus has survived by diversifying risk and cost in his crops. He grows mint, horseradish, onions, garlic and grain. The amount, and his income, depend on the water available.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I've got to know that I've got water next year to get through,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11186150\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11186150\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Scott Seus farms organic mint for tea. His crops are watered by the Klamath River through a federal irrigation project.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/RS21538_IMG_7128-qut-520x390.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Scott Seus farms organic mint for tea. His crops are watered by the Klamath River through a federal irrigation project. \u003ccite>(Molly Peterson/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At the same time, Seus says, he’s gained an understanding of the needs of others along the Klamath. In 2002, a year after his water was shut off, tens of thousands of salmon died downstream, in Yurok country, near Blue Creek. It was a devastating loss to the tribes downriver, and one which galvanized their efforts to remove four dams that have long blocked fish passage up the main stem of the Klamath.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I'm happy for them that they're going to get the dams out ... and it's going to make everything right,” he says, about the tribes, which farmers like him used to only see as opponents. His support is genuine, but tempered. “I'm not here to say, 'Don't do that,' but I am expecting them to understand that I need to farm, too.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Years of drought appear to be ending in the Klamath Basin, and predictions suggest a snowy winter. But Seus still supports an agreement to share water, because he says the real enemy for farmers like him now is doubt. “There is only one path forward,” says Seus. “That's that everybody's got to get back together and try to see this thing through.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several Klamath water users say they don’t know what to expect from the incoming Trump administration. So far, it’s brought uncertainty, the exact thing that guys like Scott Seus try to avoid. For now, water users in this area stand by the idea that the best solution to their problems still lies with each other.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11180060/in-the-klamath-river-basin-water-rights-are-personal","authors":["byline_news_11180060"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_356"],"tags":["news_6803","news_19978","news_6801","news_17286","news_17041","news_19976"],"featImg":"news_11186147","label":"news_72","isLoading":false,"hasAllInfo":true}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. Together in Possible, Hoffman and Finger lead enlightening discussions about building a brighter collective future. The show features interviews with visionary guests like Trevor Noah, Sam Altman and Janette Sadik-Khan. 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