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(2023). \u003ca href=\"https://hep.gse.harvard.edu/hep-home/books/teach-for-climate-justice\">Teach for Climate Justice: A Vision for Transforming Education\u003c/a>, (pp. 13–20). Harvard Education Press.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the culminating project of their multidisciplinary course on climate justice, seniors at the Washington Heights Expeditionary Learning School in New York City (known as WHEELS) worked in groups of four to choose a climate justice issue and create a seven-minute video. One student, introducing his group’s video, said that the students had disagreed over which issue to focus on. One favored pollution; another, garbage and littering; and a third, drug addiction. “Through good listening and negotiation,” he stated proudly, “we were able to solve our conflict with a win-win-win agreement.” They decided to address all three — a decision that forced them to explore connections among these three major problems in the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their neighborhood in the Washington Heights section of Manhattan is surrounded by highways that pollute the air and lead to high rates of asthma. A large neighborhood park is full of trees, but it’s strewn with garbage, including needles from drug users. As a result, people don’t use the park to enjoy its potential beauty and clean-air benefits. Because the park is underused, it’s unsafe as well. The student-created video called for the school community to join volunteer efforts to clean up the park and to support neighborhood demands that the city improve park maintenance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The students not only produced a call-to-action video for the school\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-62185 alignright\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/Roderick_cover_final.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"241\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/Roderick_cover_final.jpg 432w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/Roderick_cover_final-160x240.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\"> and wider community; by sharing the role that listening and negotiation played in their accomplishment, they demonstrated the power of SEL as an essential body of knowledge and skill for climate justice activists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For 36 years I served as executive director of Morningside Center for Teaching Social Responsibility, which was founded in 1982 by educators concerned about the danger of nuclear war. Throughout my time there, we partnered with schools to develop high-quality, research-backed programs in SEL, restorative practices and racial equity. The skills we taught to serve those goals are as follows:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>create a vision of the community we hope for in our classroom and school\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>understand and manage feelings\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>listen actively\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>be assertive (strong, but not mean)\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>solve problems creatively and nonviolently\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>stand up for justice\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>make a difference\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>These skills are essential for young people to learn as they grapple with climate change — and the dislocation, anxiety and conflict it generates. SEL builds our capacity both to weather the emotional challenges created by the crisis and to work together effectively to respond to it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether we call it SEL, peacemaking, justice-seeking or conflict resolution, this is a body of knowledge, ideas and skills that needs to be learned, practiced and applied in an ongoing process of growth. This is not to imply that students and adults come to SEL as blank slates. From the time we’re born, we’re taking in messages about how to handle feelings, relate to others and deal with conflict. The fields of peacemaking, conflict resolution and SEL seek to assemble and share wisdom and know-how, gleaned over many years from many sources, and share it so that people can use it to build on their strengths and, in some cases, change behaviors and ways of thinking that are not serving themselves or others well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We foster these values, skills and ways of thinking in our students through instruction in a research-validated curriculum. Best practice in SEL instruction for students can be summed up in the acronym RISE (regular, interactive, skills-based and explicit): regular, because it takes practice to learn these skills; interactive, because to learn how to relate well to others, you have to interact with them; skills-based, because skills are as critical for social and emotional competence as they are for learning to read or play basketball; and explicit, because this work is so important that you need to give it focus by naming it and making it a priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although the skill areas are consistent across the grades from preK to 12, the sophistication of the skills and the situations they address are tailored to the developmental needs and capabilities of the students. Each skill can support us as we navigate the climate crisis and work for climate justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Create a vision of the community we hope for\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In this skill area, students and teacher reflect on what they value in their relationships with other people and share their hopes for their classroom or circle group: How do I want to be treated? How will I treat others? Together, students and teacher make community agreements. Instead of taking their classroom for granted as a place where the teacher alone lays down the rules, they identify what they hope for and begin to make it a reality, with everyone taking responsibility. This is a first step in enabling students and teacher to create a supportive community and envision together the future they would like to see. It’s an exercise in active hope.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Understand and manage feelings\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Students learn that we all have feelings, and they expand their feelings vocabularies. They notice that feelings come and go and learn ways to take charge so that their feelings work for them rather than against them. For example, they learn that they can have feelings without acting on them in the heat of the moment. They can share a feeling with a friend or an adult, write about it in a journal, or shift their attention to something they’re grateful for. They can take deep breaths or take a walk around the block to cool down when angry, enabling them to think more clearly about how to deal with the anger trigger. Teachers find these techniques extremely useful as well. Social activists throughout history have channeled their anger into constructive action for justice. As we cope with the climate crisis, and as we educate and fight for climate justice, we will face plenty of occasions for anger and disappointment. We must also cherish and celebrate moments of triumph and connection. Skills in managing this roller coaster of feelings are critical tools that we need as we and our students offer our gifts of active hope and sustain them for the long haul.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Listen actively\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>To listen actively is to listen in a way that encourages the other person to talk. Students and teachers learn the importance of body language to send the message that they care about the speaker and are interested in what they have to say. They practice skills in paraphrasing to check their understanding of what the speaker is trying to communicate, in acknowledging and reflecting feelings the speaker is expressing, and in gentle questioning to show interest without prying. They get plenty of practice in their SEL classes as they listen to each other in pair-shares and go-rounds. Good listening is the foundation for building friendships and work relationships, for racial and cultural understanding, and for good leadership. Good listening is especially critical for climate justice because it is key in building the trusting relationships we need in challenging times. For adults, good listening is essential in building supportive relationships with students and in being fully present when students share feelings and concerns.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Be assertive\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Students and teachers learn that when they find themselves in a situation that is unfair, annoying, or not meeting their needs, they have several options: they can give in; they can be aggressive (mean); or they can be assertive, which is being strong while acting with respect for the other person. Of course, at times, it’s smartest to give in, and at other times, you may have to be aggressive. The aim is to expand students’ and adults’ assertive options. For instance, students or adults can work in pairs to practice natural assertive messages (saying clearly and firmly what they want). They can practice creating and using “I-feel messages” in conflicts with friends or family members—rather than using “you messages” that judge and blame the other person. This skill enhances one’s comfort and effectiveness in standing up to unfair treatment of oneself and others.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Solve problems creatively and nonviolently \u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Problem-solving skills can be used to address classroom problems and problems among friends. In Morningside Center’s curricula, students explore the concept of conflict, learning that conflict is part of life. Conflict can lead to violence, but it doesn’t have to, especially if people are skilled in conflict resolution. Students learn about conflict escalation—how to avoid it and how to jump off the escalator if they find themselves on it. They learn to see conflict not as a crisis or a failure but as a problem to be solved. They learn and practice skills in negotiation and mediation. Like the WHEELS students working on their climate justice video, they learn that conflicts can sometimes be solved so that everybody wins. They also learn and practice the ABCDE problem-solving method: Ask, what is the problem? Brainstorm solutions. Choose one. Do it. Evaluate how it works.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Stand up for justice\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Students share their cultural backgrounds: What has been great about being who they are? What has been challenging? They learn to identify prejudice, stereotypes, discrimination (defined as action based on prejudice) and oppression (systemic mistreatment of people based on their group identity). They learn the terms for the forms that discrimination and oppression take, including racism, sexism, classism, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, anti-LGBTQ oppression and adultism. Through role-plays, skits and activities, students and teachers learn and practice assertive strategies to stand up for fair treatment of all people—within their school and in the wide world. The relevance for climate justice is clear. When students reflect on their racial, gender and cultural identities and listen to their classmates share theirs, those concepts are no longer abstract, but rather become concrete and personal. The imperative to identify mistreatment and stand up to it lays the groundwork for understanding how oppression has played out on the global stage in the history, economics and politics of fossil-fuel extraction and burning. These school-based activities across the grades foster the values of understanding, respect and fairness on a personal level and establish an age-appropriate foundation for understanding oppression on societal and global levels in the higher grades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporting teachers to teach these skills lays a foundation for culturally responsive teaching and other antiracist policies and practices and is a critical step in building the “beloved community.” In the training, educators share their cultural backgrounds, acknowledge and explore the realities of discrimination and oppression in our society, and learn strategies to prevent discrimination and oppression from occurring in their classrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Make a difference\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Students and teachers learn stories of courageous people who are fighting for justice and the environment or who did so in the past. Students identify the strengths of these people, the challenges they faced or are facing and what they have achieved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We invite students and teachers to remember times when they made a difference for others in ways large or small. They identify the qualities they have that enabled them to make a difference. They reflect on other positive qualities they would like to develop and get support for developing those qualities. They envision something they hope for their family, their classroom, their school, their neighborhood, or the world, and they identify a concrete step they can take to make that hope a reality.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also take part in a classroom exercise or project that requires them to cooperate with others to achieve a goal. Reflecting on the experience afterward, they identify skills and behavior that helped or hindered their efforts to work with others to get things done. The climate justice films that WHEELS seniors created are examples of such a project. The students readily acknowledged that to make their films, they had to exercise skills in cooperation, including all of the social and emotional skills discussed thus far.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-62217\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"155\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick.jpg 1800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-800x826.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-1020x1053.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-160x165.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-768x793.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-1488x1536.jpg 1488w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\">Tom Roderick is an educator, activist and writer based in New York City. He came to education through the civil rights movement in the 1960s and taught in Harlem and East Harlem for ten years, including seven years as teacher-director of a storefront school led by parents. For 36 years he served as founding executive director of Morningside Center for Teaching Social Responsibility, started in 1982 by educators concerned about the danger of nuclear war. Over the years he led Morningside Center to become a national leader in partnering with schools to implement high-quality, research-based programs in social and emotional learning, restorative practices and racial equity. In May 2018, the Collaborative for Academic, Social, and Emotional Learning (CASEL) awarded Roderick its Mary Utne O’Brien Award for Excellence in Expanding Evidence-Based Practice of Social and Emotional Learning.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In \"Teach for Climate Justice,\" Tom Roderick outlines the social and emotional skills that can empower students and school staff to understand the climate crisis and take climate action.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1691977465,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":2182},"headData":{"title":"Why social emotional learning is critical for teaching climate justice | KQED","description":"Social emotional skills can help young people cope with climate anxiety and empower them to take action.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","socialDescription":"Social emotional skills can help young people cope with climate anxiety and empower them to take action.","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Why social emotional learning is critical for teaching climate justice","datePublished":"2023-08-23T10:00:03.000Z","dateModified":"2023-08-14T01:44:25.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/mindshift/62183/why-social-emotional-learning-is-critical-for-teaching-climate-justice","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Adapted with permission from Roderick, T. (2023). \u003ca href=\"https://hep.gse.harvard.edu/hep-home/books/teach-for-climate-justice\">Teach for Climate Justice: A Vision for Transforming Education\u003c/a>, (pp. 13–20). Harvard Education Press.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the culminating project of their multidisciplinary course on climate justice, seniors at the Washington Heights Expeditionary Learning School in New York City (known as WHEELS) worked in groups of four to choose a climate justice issue and create a seven-minute video. One student, introducing his group’s video, said that the students had disagreed over which issue to focus on. One favored pollution; another, garbage and littering; and a third, drug addiction. “Through good listening and negotiation,” he stated proudly, “we were able to solve our conflict with a win-win-win agreement.” They decided to address all three — a decision that forced them to explore connections among these three major problems in the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their neighborhood in the Washington Heights section of Manhattan is surrounded by highways that pollute the air and lead to high rates of asthma. A large neighborhood park is full of trees, but it’s strewn with garbage, including needles from drug users. As a result, people don’t use the park to enjoy its potential beauty and clean-air benefits. Because the park is underused, it’s unsafe as well. The student-created video called for the school community to join volunteer efforts to clean up the park and to support neighborhood demands that the city improve park maintenance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The students not only produced a call-to-action video for the school\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-62185 alignright\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/Roderick_cover_final.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"241\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/Roderick_cover_final.jpg 432w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/Roderick_cover_final-160x240.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\"> and wider community; by sharing the role that listening and negotiation played in their accomplishment, they demonstrated the power of SEL as an essential body of knowledge and skill for climate justice activists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For 36 years I served as executive director of Morningside Center for Teaching Social Responsibility, which was founded in 1982 by educators concerned about the danger of nuclear war. Throughout my time there, we partnered with schools to develop high-quality, research-backed programs in SEL, restorative practices and racial equity. The skills we taught to serve those goals are as follows:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>create a vision of the community we hope for in our classroom and school\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>understand and manage feelings\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>listen actively\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>be assertive (strong, but not mean)\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>solve problems creatively and nonviolently\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>stand up for justice\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>make a difference\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>These skills are essential for young people to learn as they grapple with climate change — and the dislocation, anxiety and conflict it generates. SEL builds our capacity both to weather the emotional challenges created by the crisis and to work together effectively to respond to it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether we call it SEL, peacemaking, justice-seeking or conflict resolution, this is a body of knowledge, ideas and skills that needs to be learned, practiced and applied in an ongoing process of growth. This is not to imply that students and adults come to SEL as blank slates. From the time we’re born, we’re taking in messages about how to handle feelings, relate to others and deal with conflict. The fields of peacemaking, conflict resolution and SEL seek to assemble and share wisdom and know-how, gleaned over many years from many sources, and share it so that people can use it to build on their strengths and, in some cases, change behaviors and ways of thinking that are not serving themselves or others well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We foster these values, skills and ways of thinking in our students through instruction in a research-validated curriculum. Best practice in SEL instruction for students can be summed up in the acronym RISE (regular, interactive, skills-based and explicit): regular, because it takes practice to learn these skills; interactive, because to learn how to relate well to others, you have to interact with them; skills-based, because skills are as critical for social and emotional competence as they are for learning to read or play basketball; and explicit, because this work is so important that you need to give it focus by naming it and making it a priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although the skill areas are consistent across the grades from preK to 12, the sophistication of the skills and the situations they address are tailored to the developmental needs and capabilities of the students. Each skill can support us as we navigate the climate crisis and work for climate justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Create a vision of the community we hope for\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In this skill area, students and teacher reflect on what they value in their relationships with other people and share their hopes for their classroom or circle group: How do I want to be treated? How will I treat others? Together, students and teacher make community agreements. Instead of taking their classroom for granted as a place where the teacher alone lays down the rules, they identify what they hope for and begin to make it a reality, with everyone taking responsibility. This is a first step in enabling students and teacher to create a supportive community and envision together the future they would like to see. It’s an exercise in active hope.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Understand and manage feelings\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Students learn that we all have feelings, and they expand their feelings vocabularies. They notice that feelings come and go and learn ways to take charge so that their feelings work for them rather than against them. For example, they learn that they can have feelings without acting on them in the heat of the moment. They can share a feeling with a friend or an adult, write about it in a journal, or shift their attention to something they’re grateful for. They can take deep breaths or take a walk around the block to cool down when angry, enabling them to think more clearly about how to deal with the anger trigger. Teachers find these techniques extremely useful as well. Social activists throughout history have channeled their anger into constructive action for justice. As we cope with the climate crisis, and as we educate and fight for climate justice, we will face plenty of occasions for anger and disappointment. We must also cherish and celebrate moments of triumph and connection. Skills in managing this roller coaster of feelings are critical tools that we need as we and our students offer our gifts of active hope and sustain them for the long haul.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Listen actively\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>To listen actively is to listen in a way that encourages the other person to talk. Students and teachers learn the importance of body language to send the message that they care about the speaker and are interested in what they have to say. They practice skills in paraphrasing to check their understanding of what the speaker is trying to communicate, in acknowledging and reflecting feelings the speaker is expressing, and in gentle questioning to show interest without prying. They get plenty of practice in their SEL classes as they listen to each other in pair-shares and go-rounds. Good listening is the foundation for building friendships and work relationships, for racial and cultural understanding, and for good leadership. Good listening is especially critical for climate justice because it is key in building the trusting relationships we need in challenging times. For adults, good listening is essential in building supportive relationships with students and in being fully present when students share feelings and concerns.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Be assertive\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Students and teachers learn that when they find themselves in a situation that is unfair, annoying, or not meeting their needs, they have several options: they can give in; they can be aggressive (mean); or they can be assertive, which is being strong while acting with respect for the other person. Of course, at times, it’s smartest to give in, and at other times, you may have to be aggressive. The aim is to expand students’ and adults’ assertive options. For instance, students or adults can work in pairs to practice natural assertive messages (saying clearly and firmly what they want). They can practice creating and using “I-feel messages” in conflicts with friends or family members—rather than using “you messages” that judge and blame the other person. This skill enhances one’s comfort and effectiveness in standing up to unfair treatment of oneself and others.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Solve problems creatively and nonviolently \u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Problem-solving skills can be used to address classroom problems and problems among friends. In Morningside Center’s curricula, students explore the concept of conflict, learning that conflict is part of life. Conflict can lead to violence, but it doesn’t have to, especially if people are skilled in conflict resolution. Students learn about conflict escalation—how to avoid it and how to jump off the escalator if they find themselves on it. They learn to see conflict not as a crisis or a failure but as a problem to be solved. They learn and practice skills in negotiation and mediation. Like the WHEELS students working on their climate justice video, they learn that conflicts can sometimes be solved so that everybody wins. They also learn and practice the ABCDE problem-solving method: Ask, what is the problem? Brainstorm solutions. Choose one. Do it. Evaluate how it works.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Stand up for justice\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Students share their cultural backgrounds: What has been great about being who they are? What has been challenging? They learn to identify prejudice, stereotypes, discrimination (defined as action based on prejudice) and oppression (systemic mistreatment of people based on their group identity). They learn the terms for the forms that discrimination and oppression take, including racism, sexism, classism, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, anti-LGBTQ oppression and adultism. Through role-plays, skits and activities, students and teachers learn and practice assertive strategies to stand up for fair treatment of all people—within their school and in the wide world. The relevance for climate justice is clear. When students reflect on their racial, gender and cultural identities and listen to their classmates share theirs, those concepts are no longer abstract, but rather become concrete and personal. The imperative to identify mistreatment and stand up to it lays the groundwork for understanding how oppression has played out on the global stage in the history, economics and politics of fossil-fuel extraction and burning. These school-based activities across the grades foster the values of understanding, respect and fairness on a personal level and establish an age-appropriate foundation for understanding oppression on societal and global levels in the higher grades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporting teachers to teach these skills lays a foundation for culturally responsive teaching and other antiracist policies and practices and is a critical step in building the “beloved community.” In the training, educators share their cultural backgrounds, acknowledge and explore the realities of discrimination and oppression in our society, and learn strategies to prevent discrimination and oppression from occurring in their classrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Make a difference\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Students and teachers learn stories of courageous people who are fighting for justice and the environment or who did so in the past. Students identify the strengths of these people, the challenges they faced or are facing and what they have achieved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We invite students and teachers to remember times when they made a difference for others in ways large or small. They identify the qualities they have that enabled them to make a difference. They reflect on other positive qualities they would like to develop and get support for developing those qualities. They envision something they hope for their family, their classroom, their school, their neighborhood, or the world, and they identify a concrete step they can take to make that hope a reality.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also take part in a classroom exercise or project that requires them to cooperate with others to achieve a goal. Reflecting on the experience afterward, they identify skills and behavior that helped or hindered their efforts to work with others to get things done. 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The students readily acknowledged that to make their films, they had to exercise skills in cooperation, including all of the social and emotional skills discussed thus far.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-62217\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"155\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick.jpg 1800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-800x826.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-1020x1053.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-160x165.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-768x793.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/TomRoderick-1488x1536.jpg 1488w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\">Tom Roderick is an educator, activist and writer based in New York City. He came to education through the civil rights movement in the 1960s and taught in Harlem and East Harlem for ten years, including seven years as teacher-director of a storefront school led by parents. For 36 years he served as founding executive director of Morningside Center for Teaching Social Responsibility, started in 1982 by educators concerned about the danger of nuclear war. Over the years he led Morningside Center to become a national leader in partnering with schools to implement high-quality, research-based programs in social and emotional learning, restorative practices and racial equity. 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While the word “prison” might make one think of felonies, violence and hardened criminals, any listener could clearly hear that the heart of the podcast is about humanity, early life choices and confronting mistakes. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For example, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/6/14/cellies\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">their first episode “Cellies”\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is about seeking a person to safely share one's limited space. Other episodes cover topics like parents working through challenging conditions to be \u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2018/4/25/thick-glass\">present in their children's lives\u003c/a> and\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> nurturers who care for \u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/7/12/looking-out\">unusual pets in a medium security facility\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Podcast fans also got to hear incarcerated people reflect on what their lives were like growing up long before they ended up in San Quentin, including stories about their relationships with family and community members. Listeners, including teachers, heard this connection and reached out to Ear Hustle’s creators to share. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“We got a lot of letters from teachers and their students talking about what they learned from the episode,” said Woods. He met Poor, a visual artist and educator, while serving a 31-years-to-life sentence at San Quentin. He served \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/11/22/670313799/earlonne-woods-co-host-of-ear-hustle-podcast-gets-prison-sentence-commuted\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">21 years before having his sentence commuted\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> by the governor in 2018. Educators were drawn to using Ear Hustle episodes as springboards for multimodal activities in their classrooms. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And now there is\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://sites.prh.com/thisisearhustle\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “This is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life,”\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> their new book about uncovering and amplifying stories about prison life and how they came together to co-host the first ever podcast produced within a prison. They also write about their experiences in school, how it shaped their lives and how it informs what they do today. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“I was one of [those] kids that learned to read way later,” said Woods. “I was the class clown to avoid being in the situations of reading, being in the situations of math, so I would just act out.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Similarly, Poor writes about how she had dyslexia and undiagnosed learning disabilities that made school difficult even though she was naturally curious. “I've carried that with me. That idea of being told that I wasn't smart, that I couldn't do things, that I was bothersome because teachers had to explain things to me over and over again,” she said. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With a podcast that is already rich with activities for young learners, “This is Ear Hustle” provides more accounts from incarcerated and formerly incarcerated people that students can explore in the classroom.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>How podcasts build writing skills\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Benjamin Bush, a Kentucky-based high school English teacher, started using Ear Hustle in his class because he was looking for a new way to engage his students. “The biggest problem that I think that it addresses is apathy. Getting someone to just start working on something is the hardest,” said Bush. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ear Hustle drew in his learners because it allowed them to listen to voices other than his. They could hear from a wide range of people featured on the podcast and relate to their experiences. “We got to know the backgrounds of their lives and the things that they had struggled with through poverty and trauma, which affects a lot of our kids,” he said. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After each episode, Bush’s students did a related writing assignment. “It allowed me to reimagine what a text is in a classroom and how multimedia exists in a classroom in the same way that a novel or a play would.” For example,\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/6/14/cellies\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “Cellies”\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> examines the size of a typical prison cell (Woods’ was five feet by ten feet at San Quentin) and how to negotiate the space with a cellmate. “We all have roommates at some point in our lives,” writes Woods in his book. “We also wanted the subject to be something that everybody could relate to—whether they were in prison or in society.” In class, Bush and his students used rulers to measure out the size of a cell and did creative writing about what it would feel like to inhabit the limited space with another person. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For another assignment, Bush brought in additional articles about solitary confinement, sentencing guidelines and parole rules for students to fuel their classroom conversations about prison systems. Later, students could choose to write a persuasive argument piece about one of the issues they talked about. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After listening to\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/8/09/catch-a-kite\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “Catch a Kite,”\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> an episode about receiving letters, students had the opportunity to write a letter to someone in the podcast. In one letter, a student talks about how he identifies with how his letter recipient needed to commit crimes to support his family. Another student wrote about how \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2018/4/25/thick-glass\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Thick Glass,” Ear Hustle’s episode about parenting\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, helped her understand dynamics within her own family. “Her father had been in and out of prison,” Bush said. “She wrote in her letter that Ear Hustle allowed her to envision her father as a good father. She was able to see him as redeemable in a way that maybe she hadn't before.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n\u003cp lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Little Jaylen's beautiful letter. Hear his letter at the end of our most recent episode \"Thick Glass\": \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/uecEBskphM\">https://t.co/uecEBskphM\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/IZVr1rPSS7\">pic.twitter.com/IZVr1rPSS7\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Ear Hustle Podcast (@earhustlesq) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/earhustlesq/status/991359292174413824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 1, 2018\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Connection and a sense of not being alone in hard situations are key feelings that Woods hopes to leave with young people who listen to Ear Hustle’s stories. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He also thinks these connections help young people become better learners.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “You can benefit from someone's story,” he said. “You can have a different insight on something that will help you navigate through your life.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Kinetic learning and listening\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ear Hustle co-host Nigel Poor has brought the podcast into her photography classes at California State University, Sacramento, saying its focus on storytelling primes students to slow down and build important skills in observing. “I use it to talk about storytelling and compassionate listening and building empathy, which I think are tools anybody needs no matter what they're studying.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By0d5G4yRzM\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For her class, Ear Hustle is the basis of a kinetic learning experience to help students pay attention to other invisible stories. She’ll tell students to go for a walk outside and find something discarded on the ground that draws their attention. Picking up abandoned bits and pieces is part of Poor’s art practice, and when she first started volunteering at San Quentin, she would collect things from the prison’s parking lot. In the book, she describes the lot as her “hunting ground.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In class, she’ll invite students to bring back their found object and share a story they’ve created about it. “It sounds weird at first, but it gets people to connect with their creativity and the associations that they make with objects and experiences. And that's, to me, where stories start.” She’ll then move into playing clips from Ear Hustle and discussing what people hear in them and how she and Earlonne put episodes together.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“There's so much [emphasis] put on the end result,” said Poor about education. “Listening and thinking is actually a valid activity. So I like to talk about that, and I like to talk about ways to pull stories out of people and give people the confidence to talk about themselves.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Using hands-on learning to understand systems\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Danielle Devencenzi, assistant principal at St. Ignatius College Prep high school in San Francisco, begins her criminal justice class by looking at major legislation that shaped the U.S. justice system such as California's Three Strikes Sentencing Law, the 1994 Crime Bill and landmark US Supreme Court cases. “Twelve years ago, I started to take my students to San Quentin to really understand the social justice issues facing our prison system in California, specifically mass incarceration,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/MsDevencenzi/status/961419775250350080\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hearing firsthand from incarcerated people and seeing the environment adds more depth to the books and articles they discuss as part of the class, according to Devencenzi. “I'm a firm believer that if you don't really see what's happening and really talk to the people who are impacted by our systems, then you can't really be an informed agent of change.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Devencenzi gives each of her students a notebook that they’ll use to write down their reactions, observations and notes from conversations with the people they meet on their tour of the prison. In a debrief, after visiting the prison, Devencenzi has students circle up their desks to share one thing from their notebook while she takes notes that she’ll later send to San Quentin. “They always talk about the humanity of the guys and how brave they are to tell their story in front of a bunch of complete strangers,” she said. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Ear Hustle first came out, her class was able to see the recording studio and meet some of the people featured in the episodes during their visits to San Quentin. “The podcast just became humanized when they met Curtis,” said Devencenzi about connecting with Curtis Roberts, who shared his story in “\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/9/27/left-behind\">Left Behind\u003c/a>.” Like Woods, Roberts had his sentence commuted in 2018. “It was just a month later when Curtis actually came to my classroom and visited my students again after they had met him in the prison yard,\" said Devencenzi. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n\u003cp lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Curtis Roberts who served a 29 year prison sentence comes to \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/StIgnatius?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@StIgnatius\u003c/a> to speak with criminal justice students who just visited San Quentin. Check out his \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/earhustlesq?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@earhustlesq\u003c/a> episode called Left Behind \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/MkNenCgs0Z\">pic.twitter.com/MkNenCgs0Z\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Danielle Devencenzi (@MsDevencenzi) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/MsDevencenzi/status/1201586814026428418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 2, 2019\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As a culminating project, students in Devencenzi’s criminal justice class create a podcast based on in-depth interviews. Students explore their communities looking for trends and topics that – like their favorite episodes of Ear Hustle – require a little digging to uncover. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Woods and Poor have dreams of creating an entire Ear Hustle curriculum that includes the expanded stories and deeper dives from “This is Ear Hustle.” At Woods’ request, Poor stands up to show that she’s wearing a black one-piece jumpsuit as part of her work for an episode \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/challenge\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">about a 30-day Ear Hustle challenge. \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“We're asking listeners to come on this journey with us where we are eating the food that's eaten in prison during the same time and wearing three select outfits,” said Poor. “Not because we think we can replicate life in prison, but as a way to just build awareness and empathy about some of the things you give up when you go to prison.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They think the Ear Hustle challenge, which draws on themes surfaced in the “Prison 101” chapter from “This is Ear Hustle” and an episode from season two called “The Workaround,” would be a worthwhile activity for high school students.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While stories from behind prison walls may seem to be an unlikely place to find education materials, Ear Hustle shows that there are several entry points into learning where storytelling is concerned. “There's learning through reading. 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While the word “prison” might make one think of felonies, violence and hardened criminals, any listener could clearly hear that the heart of the podcast is about humanity, early life choices and confronting mistakes. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For example, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/6/14/cellies\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">their first episode “Cellies”\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is about seeking a person to safely share one's limited space. Other episodes cover topics like parents working through challenging conditions to be \u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2018/4/25/thick-glass\">present in their children's lives\u003c/a> and\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> nurturers who care for \u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/7/12/looking-out\">unusual pets in a medium security facility\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Podcast fans also got to hear incarcerated people reflect on what their lives were like growing up long before they ended up in San Quentin, including stories about their relationships with family and community members. Listeners, including teachers, heard this connection and reached out to Ear Hustle’s creators to share. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“We got a lot of letters from teachers and their students talking about what they learned from the episode,” said Woods. He met Poor, a visual artist and educator, while serving a 31-years-to-life sentence at San Quentin. He served \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/11/22/670313799/earlonne-woods-co-host-of-ear-hustle-podcast-gets-prison-sentence-commuted\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">21 years before having his sentence commuted\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> by the governor in 2018. Educators were drawn to using Ear Hustle episodes as springboards for multimodal activities in their classrooms. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And now there is\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://sites.prh.com/thisisearhustle\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “This is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life,”\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> their new book about uncovering and amplifying stories about prison life and how they came together to co-host the first ever podcast produced within a prison. They also write about their experiences in school, how it shaped their lives and how it informs what they do today. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“I was one of [those] kids that learned to read way later,” said Woods. “I was the class clown to avoid being in the situations of reading, being in the situations of math, so I would just act out.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Similarly, Poor writes about how she had dyslexia and undiagnosed learning disabilities that made school difficult even though she was naturally curious. “I've carried that with me. That idea of being told that I wasn't smart, that I couldn't do things, that I was bothersome because teachers had to explain things to me over and over again,” she said. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With a podcast that is already rich with activities for young learners, “This is Ear Hustle” provides more accounts from incarcerated and formerly incarcerated people that students can explore in the classroom.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>How podcasts build writing skills\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Benjamin Bush, a Kentucky-based high school English teacher, started using Ear Hustle in his class because he was looking for a new way to engage his students. “The biggest problem that I think that it addresses is apathy. Getting someone to just start working on something is the hardest,” said Bush. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ear Hustle drew in his learners because it allowed them to listen to voices other than his. They could hear from a wide range of people featured on the podcast and relate to their experiences. “We got to know the backgrounds of their lives and the things that they had struggled with through poverty and trauma, which affects a lot of our kids,” he said. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After each episode, Bush’s students did a related writing assignment. “It allowed me to reimagine what a text is in a classroom and how multimedia exists in a classroom in the same way that a novel or a play would.” For example,\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/6/14/cellies\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “Cellies”\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> examines the size of a typical prison cell (Woods’ was five feet by ten feet at San Quentin) and how to negotiate the space with a cellmate. “We all have roommates at some point in our lives,” writes Woods in his book. “We also wanted the subject to be something that everybody could relate to—whether they were in prison or in society.” In class, Bush and his students used rulers to measure out the size of a cell and did creative writing about what it would feel like to inhabit the limited space with another person. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For another assignment, Bush brought in additional articles about solitary confinement, sentencing guidelines and parole rules for students to fuel their classroom conversations about prison systems. Later, students could choose to write a persuasive argument piece about one of the issues they talked about. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After listening to\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/8/09/catch-a-kite\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “Catch a Kite,”\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> an episode about receiving letters, students had the opportunity to write a letter to someone in the podcast. In one letter, a student talks about how he identifies with how his letter recipient needed to commit crimes to support his family. Another student wrote about how \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2018/4/25/thick-glass\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Thick Glass,” Ear Hustle’s episode about parenting\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, helped her understand dynamics within her own family. “Her father had been in and out of prison,” Bush said. “She wrote in her letter that Ear Hustle allowed her to envision her father as a good father. She was able to see him as redeemable in a way that maybe she hadn't before.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n\u003cp lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Little Jaylen's beautiful letter. Hear his letter at the end of our most recent episode \"Thick Glass\": \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/uecEBskphM\">https://t.co/uecEBskphM\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/IZVr1rPSS7\">pic.twitter.com/IZVr1rPSS7\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Ear Hustle Podcast (@earhustlesq) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/earhustlesq/status/991359292174413824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 1, 2018\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Connection and a sense of not being alone in hard situations are key feelings that Woods hopes to leave with young people who listen to Ear Hustle’s stories. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He also thinks these connections help young people become better learners.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “You can benefit from someone's story,” he said. “You can have a different insight on something that will help you navigate through your life.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Kinetic learning and listening\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ear Hustle co-host Nigel Poor has brought the podcast into her photography classes at California State University, Sacramento, saying its focus on storytelling primes students to slow down and build important skills in observing. “I use it to talk about storytelling and compassionate listening and building empathy, which I think are tools anybody needs no matter what they're studying.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/By0d5G4yRzM'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/By0d5G4yRzM'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For her class, Ear Hustle is the basis of a kinetic learning experience to help students pay attention to other invisible stories. She’ll tell students to go for a walk outside and find something discarded on the ground that draws their attention. Picking up abandoned bits and pieces is part of Poor’s art practice, and when she first started volunteering at San Quentin, she would collect things from the prison’s parking lot. In the book, she describes the lot as her “hunting ground.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In class, she’ll invite students to bring back their found object and share a story they’ve created about it. “It sounds weird at first, but it gets people to connect with their creativity and the associations that they make with objects and experiences. And that's, to me, where stories start.” She’ll then move into playing clips from Ear Hustle and discussing what people hear in them and how she and Earlonne put episodes together.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“There's so much [emphasis] put on the end result,” said Poor about education. “Listening and thinking is actually a valid activity. So I like to talk about that, and I like to talk about ways to pull stories out of people and give people the confidence to talk about themselves.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Using hands-on learning to understand systems\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Danielle Devencenzi, assistant principal at St. Ignatius College Prep high school in San Francisco, begins her criminal justice class by looking at major legislation that shaped the U.S. justice system such as California's Three Strikes Sentencing Law, the 1994 Crime Bill and landmark US Supreme Court cases. “Twelve years ago, I started to take my students to San Quentin to really understand the social justice issues facing our prison system in California, specifically mass incarceration,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"961419775250350080"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hearing firsthand from incarcerated people and seeing the environment adds more depth to the books and articles they discuss as part of the class, according to Devencenzi. “I'm a firm believer that if you don't really see what's happening and really talk to the people who are impacted by our systems, then you can't really be an informed agent of change.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Devencenzi gives each of her students a notebook that they’ll use to write down their reactions, observations and notes from conversations with the people they meet on their tour of the prison. In a debrief, after visiting the prison, Devencenzi has students circle up their desks to share one thing from their notebook while she takes notes that she’ll later send to San Quentin. “They always talk about the humanity of the guys and how brave they are to tell their story in front of a bunch of complete strangers,” she said. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Ear Hustle first came out, her class was able to see the recording studio and meet some of the people featured in the episodes during their visits to San Quentin. “The podcast just became humanized when they met Curtis,” said Devencenzi about connecting with Curtis Roberts, who shared his story in “\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/episodes/2017/9/27/left-behind\">Left Behind\u003c/a>.” Like Woods, Roberts had his sentence commuted in 2018. “It was just a month later when Curtis actually came to my classroom and visited my students again after they had met him in the prison yard,\" said Devencenzi. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n\u003cp lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Curtis Roberts who served a 29 year prison sentence comes to \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/StIgnatius?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@StIgnatius\u003c/a> to speak with criminal justice students who just visited San Quentin. Check out his \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/earhustlesq?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@earhustlesq\u003c/a> episode called Left Behind \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/MkNenCgs0Z\">pic.twitter.com/MkNenCgs0Z\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Danielle Devencenzi (@MsDevencenzi) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/MsDevencenzi/status/1201586814026428418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 2, 2019\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cscript async src=\"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\">\u003c/script>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As a culminating project, students in Devencenzi’s criminal justice class create a podcast based on in-depth interviews. Students explore their communities looking for trends and topics that – like their favorite episodes of Ear Hustle – require a little digging to uncover. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Woods and Poor have dreams of creating an entire Ear Hustle curriculum that includes the expanded stories and deeper dives from “This is Ear Hustle.” At Woods’ request, Poor stands up to show that she’s wearing a black one-piece jumpsuit as part of her work for an episode \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/challenge\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">about a 30-day Ear Hustle challenge. \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“We're asking listeners to come on this journey with us where we are eating the food that's eaten in prison during the same time and wearing three select outfits,” said Poor. “Not because we think we can replicate life in prison, but as a way to just build awareness and empathy about some of the things you give up when you go to prison.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They think the Ear Hustle challenge, which draws on themes surfaced in the “Prison 101” chapter from “This is Ear Hustle” and an episode from season two called “The Workaround,” would be a worthwhile activity for high school students.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While stories from behind prison walls may seem to be an unlikely place to find education materials, Ear Hustle shows that there are several entry points into learning where storytelling is concerned. “There's learning through reading. There's learning through experiencing. People who don't necessarily think they're educators actually can be educators,” said Poor. “I would love for that to be a lesson of 'This is Ear Hustle': that voices really matter and that there's surprising stories everywhere that are worthy of being heard.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>MindShift is part of KQED, a non-profit NPR and PBS member station in San Francisco, CA. The text of this specific article is available to republish for noncommercial purposes under a Creative Commons \u003ca href=\"https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/\">CC BY-NC-ND 4.0\u003c/a> license, thanks to support from the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/mindshift/58638/listening-to-learn-why-ear-hustle-stories-about-prison-life-is-so-engaging-to-students","authors":["11721"],"categories":["mindshift_21445"],"tags":["mindshift_20699","mindshift_20821","mindshift_243","mindshift_74","mindshift_20839","mindshift_21166","mindshift_851"],"featImg":"mindshift_58639","label":"mindshift"},"mindshift_46021":{"type":"posts","id":"mindshift_46021","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"mindshift","id":"46021","score":null,"sort":[1470294188000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"how-listening-and-sharing-help-shape-collaborative-learning-experiences","title":"How Listening and Sharing Help Shape Collaborative Learning Experiences","publishDate":1470294188,"format":"standard","headTitle":"MindShift | KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"mindshift"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>Excerpted from \"\u003ca href=\"http://books.wwnorton.com/books/The-ABCs-of-How-We-Learn/\">The ABCs of How We Learn: 26 Scientifically Proven Approaches, How They Work, and When to Use Them\u003c/a>,\"\u003c/em>\u003cem> (c) 2016 by Daniel L. Schwartz, Jessica M. Tsang and Kristen P. Blair. Used with the permission of the publisher, W. W. Norton & Co. The following is from the chapter \"L is for Listening and Sharing.\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Learning more together than alone\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With listening and sharing learners try to construct joint understandings. Listening and sharing are the cornerstones of collaborative learning. We can learn more working together than working alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A little history lesson: The study of cooperation arose after World War II as part of a research program on conflict resolution (Deutsch, 1977). Negotiation depends on cooperation, and negotiation is a preferable resolution to conflict than war. From this starting point, one reason to use cooperative learning is to help students develop better skills at cooperating (e.g., Johnson & Johnson, 1987). Subsequent research discovered a second reason to use cooperative learning: when students collaborate on class assignments, they learn the material better (we provide examples below). Ideally, small group work can yield both better abilities to cooperate and better learning of the content.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simply putting students into small groups, however, does not guarantee desirable outcomes. Success depends on listening and sharing. Here is a description of students who did not collaborate well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Sagging in his chair, Daryl gazed away, pointing his outstretched legs toward another group. Elizabeth, disgusted, looked down as she paged through the anthology. Across from them, Josh and Kara talked animatedly. When I stopped at their group, Kara told me the group had chosen Raymond Carver’s poem “Gravy.” Elizabeth complained that no one was listening to her and that she hated “the dumb poem they both want.” . . . Finally came the day of their presentation. . . . Kara and Josh had taken over the presentation. The other two never really found their way into the project. (Cohen & Lotan, 2014, p. 25, citing Shulman et al., 1998)\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Kara and Josh did the lion’s share of the content work, and it may have been very good. Nevertheless, they did not listen to Elizabeth, and Daryl did not share any thoughts at all. The example resonates with people because most of us have been Daryl, Elizabeth, and Kara and Josh at some point. Fortunately, listening and sharing as cooperative techniques can alleviate frustration and, more importantly, allow group learning to surpass what would be possible by a single student (Slavin, 1995). Effective collaborative learning yields gains in motivation and conceptual understanding. Ideally, it also helps students learn how to cooperate in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>1. How Listening and Sharing Works\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Everything is more fun with someone else!! Well, at least it should be. Many college students dislike group projects. Some of this is naïve egoism and an unwillingness to compromise—I can do this better alone than together. But more often than not, it is because one or more of five ingredients is missing: joint attention, listening, sharing, coordinating, and perspective taking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joint Attention\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To collaborate, people need to pay attention to the same thing. If two children are building separate sand castles, they are not collaborating. They are engaged in parallel play. The abilities to maintain joint attention are foundational and emerge around the first year of life. Infants and parents can share attention to the same toy. Next, infants learn to follow the parents gaze to maintain joint visual attention. Finally, the infants learn to direct their parents’ attention (Carpenter, Nagell, Tomasello, Butterworth, & Moore, 1998). Visual attention provides an index of what people are thinking about. If you are looking longingly at an ice-cold beer, it is a good bet that you are thinking about an ice-cold beer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://books.wwnorton.com/books/The-ABCs-of-How-We-Learn/\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-46022 alignright\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2016/08/ABCs-e1470241751579.jpg\" alt=\"Schwartz_comp17b\" width=\"250\" height=\"377\">\u003c/a>Using a common visual anchor (e.g., a common diagram) can help people maintain joint visual attention. In one study, Schneider and Pea (2013) had partners complete a circuit task, where participants had to figure out which circuit controlled which outcome in a simulation. They collaborated remotely over headsets. They saw the same image on their respective computers, so it was possible to maintain joint visual attention. In one condition, the authors used eye tracking: a moving dot showed each participant where the other was looking, so it was easier for them to maintain joint visual attention. These partners exhibited better collaboration, and they learned more from the task than did partners who did not have the eye-tracking dot to support joint attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listening\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thoughts can be much more complex than an eye gaze. It also helps to hear what people are thinking. A common situation is that people refuse to listen to one another because they are too busy talking or they just discount other people’s ideas. The How-To section describes a number of solutions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sharing\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sharing operates on two levels: sharing common goals and sharing ideas. First, if people do not share some level of common goal, they will collaborate to cross-purposes. Two professors of mathematics may agree to design homework together for a large class, but if one professor aims to increase students’ interest in the field while the other aims to weed out the faint of heart, they will have a hard time reaching consensus. Second, if nobody shares ideas, collaboration will not go very far. In school, getting people to share can be difficult. Learners may be diffident, or they may not have good strategies for sharing. Children often do not know how to offer constructive criticism or build on an idea. It can be helpful to give templates for sharing, such as two likes and a wish, where the “wish” is a constructive criticism or a building idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Coordinating\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Have you ever had the experience of a group discussion, in which you just cannot seem to get your timing right? Either you always interrupt before the speaker is done, or someone else grabs the floor exactly when the other person finishes and before you jump in. Collaboration requires a great deal of turn-taking coordination. When the number of collaborators increases, it is also important to partition roles and opportunities to interact. You may hope coordination evolves organically, which it might. But it might turn into a Lord of the Flies scenario instead. It can be useful to establish collaborative structures and rules.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Perspective Taking\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A primary reason for collaborating is that people bring different ideas to the table. The first four ingredients—joint attention, listening, sharing, and coordinating—support the exchange of information. The fifth ingredient is understanding why people are offering the information they do. This often goes beyond what speakers can possibly show and say (see Chapter S). People need to understand the point of view behind what others are saying, so they can interpret it more fully. This requires perspective taking. This is where important learning takes place, because learners can gain a new way to think about matters. It can also help differentiate and clarify one’s own ideas. A conflict of opinions can enhance learning (Johnson & Johnson, 2009).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An interesting study on perspective taking (Kulkarni, Cambre, Kotturi, Bernstein, & Klemmer, 2015) occurred in a massive open online course (MOOC) with global participation. In their online discussions, learners were encouraged to review lecture content by relating it to their local context. The researchers placed people into low- or high-diversity groups based on the spread of geographic regions among participants. Students in the most geographically diverse discussion groups saw the highest learning gains, presumably because they had the opportunity to consider more different perspectives than geographically uniform groups did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"p2\">\u003cem>\u003cspan class=\"s1\">Daniel L. Schwartz, PhD, is the Dean of the Stanford University Graduate \u003c/span>\u003cspan class=\"s1\">School of Education and holds the Nomellini-Olivier Chair in Educational \u003c/span>\u003cspan class=\"s1\">Technology. Jessica M. Tsang, PhD, and Kristen P. Blair, PhD are both \u003c/span>\u003cspan class=\"s1\">researchers and instructors at Stanford University’s Graduate School of \u003c/span>\u003cspan class=\"s1\">Education.\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In order for collaborative work to be effective, students need to be mindful about listening, joint attention, sharing, coordinating and perspective taking. 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Schwartz, Jessica M. Tsang and Kristen P. Blair. Used with the permission of the publisher, W. W. Norton & Co. The following is from the chapter \"L is for Listening and Sharing.\"\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Learning more together than alone\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With listening and sharing learners try to construct joint understandings. Listening and sharing are the cornerstones of collaborative learning. We can learn more working together than working alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A little history lesson: The study of cooperation arose after World War II as part of a research program on conflict resolution (Deutsch, 1977). Negotiation depends on cooperation, and negotiation is a preferable resolution to conflict than war. From this starting point, one reason to use cooperative learning is to help students develop better skills at cooperating (e.g., Johnson & Johnson, 1987). Subsequent research discovered a second reason to use cooperative learning: when students collaborate on class assignments, they learn the material better (we provide examples below). Ideally, small group work can yield both better abilities to cooperate and better learning of the content.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simply putting students into small groups, however, does not guarantee desirable outcomes. Success depends on listening and sharing. Here is a description of students who did not collaborate well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>Sagging in his chair, Daryl gazed away, pointing his outstretched legs toward another group. Elizabeth, disgusted, looked down as she paged through the anthology. Across from them, Josh and Kara talked animatedly. When I stopped at their group, Kara told me the group had chosen Raymond Carver’s poem “Gravy.” Elizabeth complained that no one was listening to her and that she hated “the dumb poem they both want.” . . . Finally came the day of their presentation. . . . Kara and Josh had taken over the presentation. The other two never really found their way into the project. (Cohen & Lotan, 2014, p. 25, citing Shulman et al., 1998)\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Kara and Josh did the lion’s share of the content work, and it may have been very good. Nevertheless, they did not listen to Elizabeth, and Daryl did not share any thoughts at all. The example resonates with people because most of us have been Daryl, Elizabeth, and Kara and Josh at some point. Fortunately, listening and sharing as cooperative techniques can alleviate frustration and, more importantly, allow group learning to surpass what would be possible by a single student (Slavin, 1995). Effective collaborative learning yields gains in motivation and conceptual understanding. Ideally, it also helps students learn how to cooperate in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>1. How Listening and Sharing Works\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Everything is more fun with someone else!! Well, at least it should be. Many college students dislike group projects. Some of this is naïve egoism and an unwillingness to compromise—I can do this better alone than together. But more often than not, it is because one or more of five ingredients is missing: joint attention, listening, sharing, coordinating, and perspective taking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joint Attention\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To collaborate, people need to pay attention to the same thing. If two children are building separate sand castles, they are not collaborating. They are engaged in parallel play. The abilities to maintain joint attention are foundational and emerge around the first year of life. Infants and parents can share attention to the same toy. Next, infants learn to follow the parents gaze to maintain joint visual attention. Finally, the infants learn to direct their parents’ attention (Carpenter, Nagell, Tomasello, Butterworth, & Moore, 1998). Visual attention provides an index of what people are thinking about. If you are looking longingly at an ice-cold beer, it is a good bet that you are thinking about an ice-cold beer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://books.wwnorton.com/books/The-ABCs-of-How-We-Learn/\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-46022 alignright\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2016/08/ABCs-e1470241751579.jpg\" alt=\"Schwartz_comp17b\" width=\"250\" height=\"377\">\u003c/a>Using a common visual anchor (e.g., a common diagram) can help people maintain joint visual attention. In one study, Schneider and Pea (2013) had partners complete a circuit task, where participants had to figure out which circuit controlled which outcome in a simulation. They collaborated remotely over headsets. They saw the same image on their respective computers, so it was possible to maintain joint visual attention. In one condition, the authors used eye tracking: a moving dot showed each participant where the other was looking, so it was easier for them to maintain joint visual attention. These partners exhibited better collaboration, and they learned more from the task than did partners who did not have the eye-tracking dot to support joint attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listening\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thoughts can be much more complex than an eye gaze. It also helps to hear what people are thinking. A common situation is that people refuse to listen to one another because they are too busy talking or they just discount other people’s ideas. The How-To section describes a number of solutions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sharing\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sharing operates on two levels: sharing common goals and sharing ideas. First, if people do not share some level of common goal, they will collaborate to cross-purposes. Two professors of mathematics may agree to design homework together for a large class, but if one professor aims to increase students’ interest in the field while the other aims to weed out the faint of heart, they will have a hard time reaching consensus. Second, if nobody shares ideas, collaboration will not go very far. In school, getting people to share can be difficult. Learners may be diffident, or they may not have good strategies for sharing. Children often do not know how to offer constructive criticism or build on an idea. It can be helpful to give templates for sharing, such as two likes and a wish, where the “wish” is a constructive criticism or a building idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Coordinating\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Have you ever had the experience of a group discussion, in which you just cannot seem to get your timing right? Either you always interrupt before the speaker is done, or someone else grabs the floor exactly when the other person finishes and before you jump in. Collaboration requires a great deal of turn-taking coordination. When the number of collaborators increases, it is also important to partition roles and opportunities to interact. You may hope coordination evolves organically, which it might. But it might turn into a Lord of the Flies scenario instead. It can be useful to establish collaborative structures and rules.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Perspective Taking\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A primary reason for collaborating is that people bring different ideas to the table. The first four ingredients—joint attention, listening, sharing, and coordinating—support the exchange of information. The fifth ingredient is understanding why people are offering the information they do. This often goes beyond what speakers can possibly show and say (see Chapter S). People need to understand the point of view behind what others are saying, so they can interpret it more fully. This requires perspective taking. This is where important learning takes place, because learners can gain a new way to think about matters. It can also help differentiate and clarify one’s own ideas. A conflict of opinions can enhance learning (Johnson & Johnson, 2009).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An interesting study on perspective taking (Kulkarni, Cambre, Kotturi, Bernstein, & Klemmer, 2015) occurred in a massive open online course (MOOC) with global participation. In their online discussions, learners were encouraged to review lecture content by relating it to their local context. The researchers placed people into low- or high-diversity groups based on the spread of geographic regions among participants. Students in the most geographically diverse discussion groups saw the highest learning gains, presumably because they had the opportunity to consider more different perspectives than geographically uniform groups did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"p2\">\u003cem>\u003cspan class=\"s1\">Daniel L. Schwartz, PhD, is the Dean of the Stanford University Graduate \u003c/span>\u003cspan class=\"s1\">School of Education and holds the Nomellini-Olivier Chair in Educational \u003c/span>\u003cspan class=\"s1\">Technology. Jessica M. Tsang, PhD, and Kristen P. 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She’s an English teacher -- an educator of stories told through the written word. But instead of focusing solely on classic books read in the 10\u003csup>th\u003c/sup> grade, she and her students at Norwalk High School in Connecticut were immersed in a teenage story about murder, set in the 1990s, detailed in blog \u003ca href=\"http://serialpodcast.org/maps\">posts\u003c/a>, communicated in audio: \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://serialpodcast.org/\">Serial\u003c/a>\u003c/em>, the hit podcast from the producers of \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/\">This American Life\u003c/a>\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After spending months \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/03/11/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts/\">listening to \u003cem>Serial\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and talking about it as a class, a two-hour sit-down final seemed pointless, irrelevant and an inaccurate gauge of all the learning that had taken place throughout the year. But learning as we know it in schools must be assessed. How else would adults know what kids have learned? So Alexa pursued an end-of-year assessment, possibly worthy of MailChimp (Mail \u003cem>Khimp\u003c/em>?), in the form of a podcast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While driving to school one day, thinking about \u003cem>Serial\u003c/em> host Sarah Koenig’s frustrating evolution over the course of the series, Schlechter had what she calls an “aha moment.” Her students would draw on the skills they learned while listening to and studying \u003cem>Serial\u003c/em>. They would work in groups (imagine Koenig, Dana Chivvis, Julie Snyder, the engineer who came up with their theme song, Ira Glass). Students would create a series of podcasts told from the point of view of a memoirist they’d read earlier in the year, such as Alice Sebold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">[contextly_sidebar id=\"C9AtbDusb2erIFiF9H0bDXLjRMa7nkri\"]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">“’You’ve lost your mind,’” Schlechter recalls her students saying when she introduced the assignment. But by breaking the project into discrete steps, and emphasizing the particular skills the students needed to demonstrate, Schlechter made the assignment come alive in her classes.\u003c/span>Each group would discuss a central idea from Harper Lee’s\u003cem> To Kill a Mockingbird\u003c/em>, which the classes had recently analyzed, and ponder that theme as if they were the author of the previously-read memoir. Throughout, students were to integrate the priority standards from the Common Core into their work, including analysis, writing, collaboration and logical reasoning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Already, the students had spent months discussing themes and central ideas in literature; this part of the project would be easy. But the final assignment forced them to consider literary themes from another’s viewpoint and work together to present these findings in a thoughtful podcast. And how to find common ground among memoirists as diverse as Elie Wiesel, Piper Kerman, Michael Vick and Dave Eggers? “Once they found what their memoirs had in common, I helped them figure out how that connected to a central idea in \u003cem>To Kill a Mockingbird\u003c/em>, and then it was up to them to develop an idea for a podcast,” she says. “The sky was the limit in terms of creativity,” she adds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_40850\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-40850 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2.jpg\" alt=\"Two students from Norwalk High School record their memoir author's biographical information for their podcast final.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-1440x810.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-960x540.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Two students from Norwalk High School record their memoir author's biographical information for their podcast final. \u003ccite>(Alexa Schlechter)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The podcasts the students created varied widely in style and tone. One group of students named their podcast “The Silent Struggle,” referring to women’s repression in history. Memoir “authors” Al Michaels, Jeannette Walls, Cupcake Brown, Farrah Abraham, and \u003cem>Go Ask Alice\u003c/em> diarist Alice Smith \u003ca href=\"http://thesilentstruggle.podomatic.com/entry/2015-06-10T07_43_43-07_00\">discussed their own troubles\u003c/a> with drugs and drinking, and interviewed \u003cem>To Kill a Mockingbird\u003c/em> character Mayella Ewell about her alcoholic father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In “\u003ca href=\"https://maycombzone.wordpress.com/\">The Maycomb Zone: A Twist on the Twilight Zone\u003c/a>,” another group analyzed the human tendency to make sense of the unknown by resorting to prejudice and bullying; some of the participants included Drew Brees, Muhammad Ali and Augusten Burroughs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other students aimed at humor. In studying the long-term impact of youthful friendships, “memoirists” in one group recounted a funny story from their childhoods, and then discussed revelatory experiences of \u003cem>Mockingbird\u003c/em> children Dill, Scout and Jem. Reflecting the creativity the assignment inspired, another collection of 10\u003csup>th\u003c/sup> graders turned their podcast into a radio call-in show, featuring \u003ca href=\"http://tommybenincaso.podbean.com/e/real-life-radio-show-episode-2/\">Nelson Mandela\u003c/a> and “\u003ca href=\"http://tommybenincaso.podbean.com/e/real-life-radio-show-episode-1/\">Ron Burgundy\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_40870\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-40870\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3.jpg\" alt=\"Students discuss ideas for their final presentation.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-1440x810.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-960x540.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students discuss ideas for their final presentation. \u003ccite>(Alexa Schlechter )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As demanding as it was, the assignment involved more than group podcast presentations. To stay on top of daily assignments, every student was required to write a paragraph assessing how she and her group performed that day. Before sharing their podcasts in class, students also needed to come up with a five-minute biographical presentation on their memoir author, using any kind of medium they preferred; some kids recorded raps, while others produced short movies and commercials. And on the last day of class, every pupil had to hand in a two-page reflection paper on the experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Adding to the students’ challenge, they all needed to be proficient in Google Classroom, Google Forms, Edublogs, and Soundtrap.com, an online site that allows students to record and create their own music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schlechter read every update and tried to resolve brewing conflicts before they became unmanageable. “Almost every problem has had to do with communication,” she says, adding that she talks often with students about finding better ways to stay connected. And the daily feedback has been surprisingly positive, Schlechter says. Rather than complain about a classmate not doing his or her fair share, many students use the regular assessment to acknowledge a group member’s great idea or hilarious delivery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’ve really done it,” Schlechter says about her students, who are presenting their podcasts in class during the time carved-out for finals. She’d had doubts at the early stages of the project, wondering if she’d been too ambitious in assigning such complex and time-consuming work to scads of teenagers so close to the start of summer. Support from a school administrator and her own determination to press forward kept her going. “I wanted to push them beyond their comfort level and push myself beyond my own,” she adds. “How can I expect to have rigor in my classroom if it’s not rigorous?” Schlechter asks.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"An English teacher became so compelled with podcasts, she assigned the creation of one as a final exam to replace the traditional seated test. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1434658211,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":1038},"headData":{"title":"Inspired By Serial, Teens Create Podcasts As A Final Exam | KQED","description":"An English teacher became so compelled with podcasts, she assigned the creation of one as a final exam to replace the traditional seated test. 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She’s an English teacher -- an educator of stories told through the written word. But instead of focusing solely on classic books read in the 10\u003csup>th\u003c/sup> grade, she and her students at Norwalk High School in Connecticut were immersed in a teenage story about murder, set in the 1990s, detailed in blog \u003ca href=\"http://serialpodcast.org/maps\">posts\u003c/a>, communicated in audio: \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://serialpodcast.org/\">Serial\u003c/a>\u003c/em>, the hit podcast from the producers of \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/\">This American Life\u003c/a>\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After spending months \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/03/11/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts/\">listening to \u003cem>Serial\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and talking about it as a class, a two-hour sit-down final seemed pointless, irrelevant and an inaccurate gauge of all the learning that had taken place throughout the year. But learning as we know it in schools must be assessed. How else would adults know what kids have learned? So Alexa pursued an end-of-year assessment, possibly worthy of MailChimp (Mail \u003cem>Khimp\u003c/em>?), in the form of a podcast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While driving to school one day, thinking about \u003cem>Serial\u003c/em> host Sarah Koenig’s frustrating evolution over the course of the series, Schlechter had what she calls an “aha moment.” Her students would draw on the skills they learned while listening to and studying \u003cem>Serial\u003c/em>. They would work in groups (imagine Koenig, Dana Chivvis, Julie Snyder, the engineer who came up with their theme song, Ira Glass). Students would create a series of podcasts told from the point of view of a memoirist they’d read earlier in the year, such as Alice Sebold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">“’You’ve lost your mind,’” Schlechter recalls her students saying when she introduced the assignment. But by breaking the project into discrete steps, and emphasizing the particular skills the students needed to demonstrate, Schlechter made the assignment come alive in her classes.\u003c/span>Each group would discuss a central idea from Harper Lee’s\u003cem> To Kill a Mockingbird\u003c/em>, which the classes had recently analyzed, and ponder that theme as if they were the author of the previously-read memoir. Throughout, students were to integrate the priority standards from the Common Core into their work, including analysis, writing, collaboration and logical reasoning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Already, the students had spent months discussing themes and central ideas in literature; this part of the project would be easy. But the final assignment forced them to consider literary themes from another’s viewpoint and work together to present these findings in a thoughtful podcast. And how to find common ground among memoirists as diverse as Elie Wiesel, Piper Kerman, Michael Vick and Dave Eggers? “Once they found what their memoirs had in common, I helped them figure out how that connected to a central idea in \u003cem>To Kill a Mockingbird\u003c/em>, and then it was up to them to develop an idea for a podcast,” she says. “The sky was the limit in terms of creativity,” she adds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_40850\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-40850 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2.jpg\" alt=\"Two students from Norwalk High School record their memoir author's biographical information for their podcast final.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-1440x810.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-2-960x540.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Two students from Norwalk High School record their memoir author's biographical information for their podcast final. \u003ccite>(Alexa Schlechter)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The podcasts the students created varied widely in style and tone. One group of students named their podcast “The Silent Struggle,” referring to women’s repression in history. Memoir “authors” Al Michaels, Jeannette Walls, Cupcake Brown, Farrah Abraham, and \u003cem>Go Ask Alice\u003c/em> diarist Alice Smith \u003ca href=\"http://thesilentstruggle.podomatic.com/entry/2015-06-10T07_43_43-07_00\">discussed their own troubles\u003c/a> with drugs and drinking, and interviewed \u003cem>To Kill a Mockingbird\u003c/em> character Mayella Ewell about her alcoholic father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In “\u003ca href=\"https://maycombzone.wordpress.com/\">The Maycomb Zone: A Twist on the Twilight Zone\u003c/a>,” another group analyzed the human tendency to make sense of the unknown by resorting to prejudice and bullying; some of the participants included Drew Brees, Muhammad Ali and Augusten Burroughs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other students aimed at humor. In studying the long-term impact of youthful friendships, “memoirists” in one group recounted a funny story from their childhoods, and then discussed revelatory experiences of \u003cem>Mockingbird\u003c/em> children Dill, Scout and Jem. Reflecting the creativity the assignment inspired, another collection of 10\u003csup>th\u003c/sup> graders turned their podcast into a radio call-in show, featuring \u003ca href=\"http://tommybenincaso.podbean.com/e/real-life-radio-show-episode-2/\">Nelson Mandela\u003c/a> and “\u003ca href=\"http://tommybenincaso.podbean.com/e/real-life-radio-show-episode-1/\">Ron Burgundy\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_40870\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-40870\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3.jpg\" alt=\"Students discuss ideas for their final presentation.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-400x225.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-1440x810.jpg 1440w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2015/06/Podcast-Alexa-3-960x540.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students discuss ideas for their final presentation. \u003ccite>(Alexa Schlechter )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As demanding as it was, the assignment involved more than group podcast presentations. To stay on top of daily assignments, every student was required to write a paragraph assessing how she and her group performed that day. Before sharing their podcasts in class, students also needed to come up with a five-minute biographical presentation on their memoir author, using any kind of medium they preferred; some kids recorded raps, while others produced short movies and commercials. And on the last day of class, every pupil had to hand in a two-page reflection paper on the experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Adding to the students’ challenge, they all needed to be proficient in Google Classroom, Google Forms, Edublogs, and Soundtrap.com, an online site that allows students to record and create their own music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schlechter read every update and tried to resolve brewing conflicts before they became unmanageable. “Almost every problem has had to do with communication,” she says, adding that she talks often with students about finding better ways to stay connected. And the daily feedback has been surprisingly positive, Schlechter says. Rather than complain about a classmate not doing his or her fair share, many students use the regular assessment to acknowledge a group member’s great idea or hilarious delivery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’ve really done it,” Schlechter says about her students, who are presenting their podcasts in class during the time carved-out for finals. She’d had doubts at the early stages of the project, wondering if she’d been too ambitious in assigning such complex and time-consuming work to scads of teenagers so close to the start of summer. Support from a school administrator and her own determination to press forward kept her going. “I wanted to push them beyond their comfort level and push myself beyond my own,” she adds. “How can I expect to have rigor in my classroom if it’s not rigorous?” Schlechter asks.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/mindshift/40841/inspired-by-serial-teens-create-podcasts-as-a-final-exam","authors":["4613"],"categories":["mindshift_195","mindshift_193"],"tags":["mindshift_1004","mindshift_20646","mindshift_20784","mindshift_1040","mindshift_20821","mindshift_74"],"featImg":"mindshift_40849","label":"mindshift"},"mindshift_39461":{"type":"posts","id":"mindshift_39461","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"mindshift","id":"39461","score":null,"sort":[1426079948000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts","title":"What Teens are Learning From 'Serial' and Other Podcasts","publishDate":1426079948,"format":"aside","headTitle":"MindShift | KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"mindshift"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_39654\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/03/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts/serial-iphone/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39654\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-39654\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/03/Serial-iPhone.jpg\" alt=\"Casey Fiesler/Flickr\" width=\"640\" height=\"960\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.flickr.com/photos/cfiesler/16058919015\">Casey Fiesler/Flickr\u003c/a>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp class=\"dropcap-serif\">It didn’t take long for Michael Godsey, an English teacher at Morro Bay High School in California, to realize that his decision to use a public radio podcast in the classroom was a wise one. It wasn’t any old podcast he was introducing to his classes. It was \"\u003ca href=\"http://serialpodcast.org/about\">Serial\u003c/a>,\" the murder-mystery phenomenon produced by reporter Sarah Koenig of \"This American Life,\" which already was transfixing a wide swath of the adult population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Even if they weren’t into it, I told them it was the most popular podcast of all time, and that was interesting,” Godsey says. He needn’t have worried. The podcast seized his five classrooms of 10th- and 11th-graders. “I had kids cutting other classes so they could come listen to it again,” he says. “Kids who were sick, who never did their homework, were listening at home.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">Godsey is one of a growing number of educators who are using podcasts like \"Serial\" to motivate their classrooms and address education requirements set by the Common Core state standards. Improving students’ listening skills is one of the essential components of the new education mandates, and using audio in the classroom can be an effective way to promote listening. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_39657\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/03/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts/serial-godsey-photo/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39657\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-39657\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/03/Serial-Godsey-photo-300x303.jpg\" alt=\"Students in Michael Godsey's class review cell phone logs from the Serial podcast. Credit: Michael Godsey.\" width=\"300\" height=\"303\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students in Michael Godsey's class review cell phone logs from the Serial podcast. Credit: Michael Godsey.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">“It’s a really nice way to spend time together as a class,” says Eleanor Lear, a high school English teacher at a private all-girls school, who has been using podcasts from Chicago Public Media’s \"This American Life\" and WNYC's \"Radiolab\" for about four years. Powerful podcasts that tell good stories not only captivate students, Godsey adds, but also help them tune out the static of modern life. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">“I think the kids really appreciate getting the story told to them, as opposed to so much hitting their senses,” he says. “They’re not overstimulated by it,” he says, noting that contemporary podcasts resemble radio shows from the past.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Learning through listening has surprising educational advantages as well. Students can listen to content two-to-three grade levels higher than they can read, according to Monica Brady-Myerov. She spent her career in public radio and now runs an online site, \u003ca href=\"https://listenwise.com/\">Listen Current\u003c/a>, to help schools make better use of public radio’s rich strain of stories.* An unfamiliar word that might stop them on the page doesn’t compel them to tune out from a story told aloud. Also, kids for whom English is a second language benefit from hearing spoken English and following along with an accompanying transcript, she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If podcasts are a modern version of old-time radio programs, then \"Serial\" is this generation’s \"War of the Worlds.\" No one has packed up a car to escape fictitious aliens, as they did after listening to Orson Welles’ tall tale, but \"Serial\" listeners of all ages have been swept up by Koenig’s investigation into a decades-old murder of a high school girl in Baltimore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The podcast's first season consists of 12 40-45 minute “chapters” narrated by Koenig, involving interviews with former witnesses, detectives, lawyers and classmates of Adnan Syed. He was convicted of the murder of his ex-girlfriend, Hae Min Lee, and is now in prison. The series unfolds in real time — Koenig apparently is searching for answers along with the listeners — and challenges followers to wrestle with Adnan’s guilt, the criminal justice system and the events that unfolded around the day Lee was last seen alive, January 13, 1999. Last fall, \"Serial\" was the most popular podcast in the world, the \u003ca href=\"http://www.wsj.com/articles/serial-podcast-catches-fire-1415921853\">Wall Street Journal\u003c/a> reported, and set the iTunes record for fastest downloaded podcast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_39655\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/03/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts/serial-1/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39655\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-39655\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/03/Serial-1.jpg\" alt=\"Students at Norwalk High School discuss the Serial podcast, while images of key players loom on the wall, including Adnan Syed and Sarah Koenig. Credit: Credit: Sabrina Hiller.\" width=\"640\" height=\"960\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students at Norwalk High School discuss the Serial podcast, while images of key players loom on the wall, including Adnan Syed, Hae Min Lee, Jay Wilds, Sarah Koenig and Rabia Chaudry. Credit: Credit: Alexa Schlechter.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Serial’s Appeal to Students\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Students flock to the show for several reasons. The events took place during high school, making the subject matter feel familiar and relevant in a way that classic literature doesn’t, Godsey says, while the excellence of the storytelling takes hold of the listener. Narrator Sarah Koenig’s quick shifts in tone and perspectives -- we spend three minutes with a lawyer, say, then with a former classmate and then a detective -- is especially appealing to teenagers who bore easily, Godsey says. (“They were spaced out within three minutes of Edgar Allan Poe,” he adds, about that failed listening experiment.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And \"Serial\" is novel, not only to the kids, but also to the teacher. “It was new to the world, and they were very excited that I didn’t know the outcome before they did,” Godsey says. When the semester ended, 90 percent of his students reported enjoying \"Serial,\" some suggesting that they preferred podcasts to written stories, novels or poems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What do students learn from the experience? “They enjoy it so much that they don’t realize they’re learning at the highest level,” says Alexa Schlechter, a 10th-grade English teacher at Norwalk High School in Connecticut, who had never used a podcast in class before trying \"Serial.\" Listening to and engaging with \"Serial\" helps many students address one of the main challenges in developing their analytical skills: getting beyond simple explanations of what happened, and figuring out how and why an event occurred, she says. Poring over text of the transcripts in class to uncover answers, students also develop their critical reading skills, she says. (See how \u003ca href=\"http://schlechter.edublogs.org/2015/03/04/wait-a-minute/\">students answered questions \u003c/a>about discrepancies between the cell phone records and Jay's testimony at Schlechter's blog.) Students publicly debated Syed's guilt or innocence in Godsey’s classes, addressing a Common Core standard to improve speaking skills, and worked together with other students to create their own podcasts or present mock closing arguments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Students also learned how to navigate Google maps, finding the exact streets in Baltimore where important events were said to have occurred, and “driving” them, virtually, to assess the evidence. And for some students, delving into \"Serial\" marked their introduction to public radio and to the adult educated world. “So often my students are disconnected from where my [adult] friends are,” Schlechter says. “Now there’s no divide.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_39651\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/03/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts/serial-2/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39651\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-39651\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/02/Serial-2.jpg\" alt=\"Students at Norwalk high School look at cell tower maps triggered by Adnan Syed's cell phone while discussing an assignment. Credit: Sabrina Hiller\" width=\"640\" height=\"960\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students at Norwalk High School look at \u003ca href=\"http://serialpodcast.org/maps\">cell tower maps from Serial\u003c/a> of pings triggered by Adnan Syed's cell phone while discussing discrepancies in Jay's testimony. Credit: Alexa Schlechter\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Effect on Teachers\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Teachers were similarly inspired, if occasionally overwhelmed by the out-of-class preparation required for such pioneering work. Godsey and Schlechter both were hooked on \"Serial\" when it dawned on them to share the learning experience with their classes, and their personal enthusiasm for the story drove their teaching. The energy and originality of the podcast inspired them as much as it did the students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because the case revolved around high school kids, teachers also were better able to appreciate their students’ contributions and point of view, in a way they might not have had they been discussing \"The Great Gatsby\" or \"War and Peace.\" In this way, \"Serial\" helped teachers better grasp their students’ fresh insights. And devoting so much class time to this one complex story triggered ideas for new ways to discuss the classics. Next semester, Godsey’s English classes are going to do their own \"Serial\"-style podcast, telling Arthur Miller’s \"The Crucible\" from Abigail’s perspective.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the violent subject matter brought unexpected grace to the class. The humanities, after all, dwell on the conflicts within and among human beings, but novels and distant nonfiction can feel unconnected from teenagers’ lives. \"Serial,\" on the other hand, with its focus on the actual murder of a young woman and the current imprisonment of her convicted killer, forces listeners to confront -- and feel -- the reality of human frailty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For her part, Schlechter is determined to keep the murder victim present in her students’ minds, so that the young girl at the center of the mystery isn’t lost in the class exercises. “I keep a photo of her in the classroom, so she’s not just a subject, or a character,” Schlechter says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Beyond 'Serial'\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For those who don’t have the time or flexibility to devote to a story of such length, shorter podcasts can serve a similar purpose. Lear teaches a senior elective on racial depictions in American forms, and assigned a Radiolab story, “\u003ca href=\"http://www.radiolab.org/story/who-are-we-carlisle-carlisle-carlisle/\">Ghosts of Football Past\u003c/a>,” for its rich content. One of Godsey’s most memorable classes involved listening to \"Pardon the Interruption,\" an ESPN podcast, which addressed commentator Bill Simmons’ suspension from the sports network for slamming football commissioner Roger Goodell. In another class, Godsey put on a \"This American Life\" podcast, “\u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/538/is-this-working\">Is This Working?\u003c/a>” on discipline in school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They were totally into it,” he says, “and it inspired great conversation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for teachers who insist on having structured lesson plans and prepared assignments to accompany a podcast, external resources are becoming available to schools. During the semester he taught \"Serial,\" Godsey created about \u003ca href=\"https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Unit-1-Serial-Podcast-Lesson-Plans-Printable-Worksheets-S1-Episode-1-1604426#\">400 pages of lesson plans on Teachers Pay Teachers to accompany the podcasts\u003c/a>, which he now sells to interested educators. Listen Current, just 2 years old, provides transcripts and lesson plans for public radio stories on a variety of subjects. Brady-Myerov estimates that 4,000 teachers used her materials last year, and that 100,000 students, middle through high school, tapped into their curated podcasts (much of the material is free.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Teachers are desperate for new resources,” she says, and public radio stories, which are known for being authentic, accurate, well told and sharply edited, are ideal for sparking student interest. For a class on the birth of the labor movement, for example, Listen Current recommends a public radio podcast that includes archival sound, music and voices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you give teachers content-based audio, you’ll get so much more student engagement,” says Brady-Myerov.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To the extent that he can, Godsey is gearing up for \"Serial’s\" second season. He wonders if the first season’s rollicking success is replicable, at least for his students. Either way, the podcast has rebranded radio as the next new thing, despite the medium’s long history. For students accustomed to the flash-bang of modernity, ambling podcasts in the classroom may be just what they need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Norwalk High School student Sabrina Hiller produced this video about how students Serial in Alexa Schlechter's class: \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>*In 2016 Listen Current \u003ca href=\"https://s3.amazonaws.com/listenwise-documents/ListenwisePressRelease_Final.pdf\">changed its name\u003c/a> to Listenwise.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The wildly popular podcast \"Serial\" has found relevance in high school classrooms as a way to improve listening and critical thinking skills. 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It wasn’t any old podcast he was introducing to his classes. It was \"\u003ca href=\"http://serialpodcast.org/about\">Serial\u003c/a>,\" the murder-mystery phenomenon produced by reporter Sarah Koenig of \"This American Life,\" which already was transfixing a wide swath of the adult population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Even if they weren’t into it, I told them it was the most popular podcast of all time, and that was interesting,” Godsey says. He needn’t have worried. The podcast seized his five classrooms of 10th- and 11th-graders. “I had kids cutting other classes so they could come listen to it again,” he says. “Kids who were sick, who never did their homework, were listening at home.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">Godsey is one of a growing number of educators who are using podcasts like \"Serial\" to motivate their classrooms and address education requirements set by the Common Core state standards. Improving students’ listening skills is one of the essential components of the new education mandates, and using audio in the classroom can be an effective way to promote listening. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_39657\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/03/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts/serial-godsey-photo/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39657\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-39657\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/03/Serial-Godsey-photo-300x303.jpg\" alt=\"Students in Michael Godsey's class review cell phone logs from the Serial podcast. Credit: Michael Godsey.\" width=\"300\" height=\"303\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students in Michael Godsey's class review cell phone logs from the Serial podcast. Credit: Michael Godsey.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">“It’s a really nice way to spend time together as a class,” says Eleanor Lear, a high school English teacher at a private all-girls school, who has been using podcasts from Chicago Public Media’s \"This American Life\" and WNYC's \"Radiolab\" for about four years. Powerful podcasts that tell good stories not only captivate students, Godsey adds, but also help them tune out the static of modern life. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"line-height: 1.5\">“I think the kids really appreciate getting the story told to them, as opposed to so much hitting their senses,” he says. “They’re not overstimulated by it,” he says, noting that contemporary podcasts resemble radio shows from the past.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Learning through listening has surprising educational advantages as well. Students can listen to content two-to-three grade levels higher than they can read, according to Monica Brady-Myerov. She spent her career in public radio and now runs an online site, \u003ca href=\"https://listenwise.com/\">Listen Current\u003c/a>, to help schools make better use of public radio’s rich strain of stories.* An unfamiliar word that might stop them on the page doesn’t compel them to tune out from a story told aloud. Also, kids for whom English is a second language benefit from hearing spoken English and following along with an accompanying transcript, she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If podcasts are a modern version of old-time radio programs, then \"Serial\" is this generation’s \"War of the Worlds.\" No one has packed up a car to escape fictitious aliens, as they did after listening to Orson Welles’ tall tale, but \"Serial\" listeners of all ages have been swept up by Koenig’s investigation into a decades-old murder of a high school girl in Baltimore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The podcast's first season consists of 12 40-45 minute “chapters” narrated by Koenig, involving interviews with former witnesses, detectives, lawyers and classmates of Adnan Syed. He was convicted of the murder of his ex-girlfriend, Hae Min Lee, and is now in prison. The series unfolds in real time — Koenig apparently is searching for answers along with the listeners — and challenges followers to wrestle with Adnan’s guilt, the criminal justice system and the events that unfolded around the day Lee was last seen alive, January 13, 1999. Last fall, \"Serial\" was the most popular podcast in the world, the \u003ca href=\"http://www.wsj.com/articles/serial-podcast-catches-fire-1415921853\">Wall Street Journal\u003c/a> reported, and set the iTunes record for fastest downloaded podcast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_39655\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/03/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts/serial-1/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39655\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-39655\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/03/Serial-1.jpg\" alt=\"Students at Norwalk High School discuss the Serial podcast, while images of key players loom on the wall, including Adnan Syed and Sarah Koenig. Credit: Credit: Sabrina Hiller.\" width=\"640\" height=\"960\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students at Norwalk High School discuss the Serial podcast, while images of key players loom on the wall, including Adnan Syed, Hae Min Lee, Jay Wilds, Sarah Koenig and Rabia Chaudry. Credit: Credit: Alexa Schlechter.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Serial’s Appeal to Students\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Students flock to the show for several reasons. The events took place during high school, making the subject matter feel familiar and relevant in a way that classic literature doesn’t, Godsey says, while the excellence of the storytelling takes hold of the listener. Narrator Sarah Koenig’s quick shifts in tone and perspectives -- we spend three minutes with a lawyer, say, then with a former classmate and then a detective -- is especially appealing to teenagers who bore easily, Godsey says. (“They were spaced out within three minutes of Edgar Allan Poe,” he adds, about that failed listening experiment.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And \"Serial\" is novel, not only to the kids, but also to the teacher. “It was new to the world, and they were very excited that I didn’t know the outcome before they did,” Godsey says. When the semester ended, 90 percent of his students reported enjoying \"Serial,\" some suggesting that they preferred podcasts to written stories, novels or poems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What do students learn from the experience? “They enjoy it so much that they don’t realize they’re learning at the highest level,” says Alexa Schlechter, a 10th-grade English teacher at Norwalk High School in Connecticut, who had never used a podcast in class before trying \"Serial.\" Listening to and engaging with \"Serial\" helps many students address one of the main challenges in developing their analytical skills: getting beyond simple explanations of what happened, and figuring out how and why an event occurred, she says. Poring over text of the transcripts in class to uncover answers, students also develop their critical reading skills, she says. (See how \u003ca href=\"http://schlechter.edublogs.org/2015/03/04/wait-a-minute/\">students answered questions \u003c/a>about discrepancies between the cell phone records and Jay's testimony at Schlechter's blog.) Students publicly debated Syed's guilt or innocence in Godsey’s classes, addressing a Common Core standard to improve speaking skills, and worked together with other students to create their own podcasts or present mock closing arguments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Students also learned how to navigate Google maps, finding the exact streets in Baltimore where important events were said to have occurred, and “driving” them, virtually, to assess the evidence. And for some students, delving into \"Serial\" marked their introduction to public radio and to the adult educated world. “So often my students are disconnected from where my [adult] friends are,” Schlechter says. “Now there’s no divide.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_39651\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/03/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts/serial-2/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39651\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-39651\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2015/02/Serial-2.jpg\" alt=\"Students at Norwalk high School look at cell tower maps triggered by Adnan Syed's cell phone while discussing an assignment. Credit: Sabrina Hiller\" width=\"640\" height=\"960\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students at Norwalk High School look at \u003ca href=\"http://serialpodcast.org/maps\">cell tower maps from Serial\u003c/a> of pings triggered by Adnan Syed's cell phone while discussing discrepancies in Jay's testimony. Credit: Alexa Schlechter\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Effect on Teachers\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Teachers were similarly inspired, if occasionally overwhelmed by the out-of-class preparation required for such pioneering work. Godsey and Schlechter both were hooked on \"Serial\" when it dawned on them to share the learning experience with their classes, and their personal enthusiasm for the story drove their teaching. The energy and originality of the podcast inspired them as much as it did the students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because the case revolved around high school kids, teachers also were better able to appreciate their students’ contributions and point of view, in a way they might not have had they been discussing \"The Great Gatsby\" or \"War and Peace.\" In this way, \"Serial\" helped teachers better grasp their students’ fresh insights. And devoting so much class time to this one complex story triggered ideas for new ways to discuss the classics. Next semester, Godsey’s English classes are going to do their own \"Serial\"-style podcast, telling Arthur Miller’s \"The Crucible\" from Abigail’s perspective.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the violent subject matter brought unexpected grace to the class. The humanities, after all, dwell on the conflicts within and among human beings, but novels and distant nonfiction can feel unconnected from teenagers’ lives. \"Serial,\" on the other hand, with its focus on the actual murder of a young woman and the current imprisonment of her convicted killer, forces listeners to confront -- and feel -- the reality of human frailty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For her part, Schlechter is determined to keep the murder victim present in her students’ minds, so that the young girl at the center of the mystery isn’t lost in the class exercises. “I keep a photo of her in the classroom, so she’s not just a subject, or a character,” Schlechter says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Beyond 'Serial'\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For those who don’t have the time or flexibility to devote to a story of such length, shorter podcasts can serve a similar purpose. Lear teaches a senior elective on racial depictions in American forms, and assigned a Radiolab story, “\u003ca href=\"http://www.radiolab.org/story/who-are-we-carlisle-carlisle-carlisle/\">Ghosts of Football Past\u003c/a>,” for its rich content. One of Godsey’s most memorable classes involved listening to \"Pardon the Interruption,\" an ESPN podcast, which addressed commentator Bill Simmons’ suspension from the sports network for slamming football commissioner Roger Goodell. In another class, Godsey put on a \"This American Life\" podcast, “\u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/538/is-this-working\">Is This Working?\u003c/a>” on discipline in school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They were totally into it,” he says, “and it inspired great conversation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for teachers who insist on having structured lesson plans and prepared assignments to accompany a podcast, external resources are becoming available to schools. During the semester he taught \"Serial,\" Godsey created about \u003ca href=\"https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Unit-1-Serial-Podcast-Lesson-Plans-Printable-Worksheets-S1-Episode-1-1604426#\">400 pages of lesson plans on Teachers Pay Teachers to accompany the podcasts\u003c/a>, which he now sells to interested educators. Listen Current, just 2 years old, provides transcripts and lesson plans for public radio stories on a variety of subjects. Brady-Myerov estimates that 4,000 teachers used her materials last year, and that 100,000 students, middle through high school, tapped into their curated podcasts (much of the material is free.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Teachers are desperate for new resources,” she says, and public radio stories, which are known for being authentic, accurate, well told and sharply edited, are ideal for sparking student interest. For a class on the birth of the labor movement, for example, Listen Current recommends a public radio podcast that includes archival sound, music and voices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you give teachers content-based audio, you’ll get so much more student engagement,” says Brady-Myerov.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To the extent that he can, Godsey is gearing up for \"Serial’s\" second season. He wonders if the first season’s rollicking success is replicable, at least for his students. Either way, the podcast has rebranded radio as the next new thing, despite the medium’s long history. For students accustomed to the flash-bang of modernity, ambling podcasts in the classroom may be just what they need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Norwalk High School student Sabrina Hiller produced this video about how students Serial in Alexa Schlechter's class: \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>*In 2016 Listen Current \u003ca href=\"https://s3.amazonaws.com/listenwise-documents/ListenwisePressRelease_Final.pdf\">changed its name\u003c/a> to Listenwise.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/mindshift/39461/what-teens-are-learning-from-serial-and-other-podcasts","authors":["4613"],"categories":["mindshift_195"],"tags":["mindshift_20822","mindshift_1004","mindshift_20784","mindshift_1040","mindshift_20821","mindshift_74"],"featImg":"mindshift_39654","label":"mindshift"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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