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Last month, Matthew Cate stepped down as the head of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. We’ll talk to him about what he learned while running — and attempting to reform — the state’s overcrowded and beleaguered prison system.

Guests:
Matthew Cate, executive director of the California State Association of Counties and former secretary of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation

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